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All right, so real real quick.
Week four Kwon, who is not here with us today.
Kwan is still he Still, this is the out of the three weeks we've been doing this.
Yes, it says week, for we didn't do Week one.
Kwan has won two out of the three weeks, so I don't know what's going on.
He's looking a lot better in this than his NFL Washington football club, Whatever you wanna call him.
So he won the week and the overall standings.
He gained the game.
I was one game behind him, going in the last week or going into yeah, going into last week.
Now he's gained two games on me in the loss column.
So shout out the corn.
He's still in the lead, some kind of way he's doing this thing.
So anyway, we plan on him losing that this week.
He'll get no use this. No way.
Got He did throw his picks in before we started.
So uh oh, yeah, that's right.
Let's rock and roll, Brandon.
Let's let's get it popping for sure.
Um, so starting off the week we have Carolina traveling to Atlanta 1 p.
Who you got? Oh, um, I got Carolina this game.
I got but I think I got to be in a close game.
You know, Atlanta, looking for their first when? But Carolina squeaks it out. 27.
I'm gonna go with Caroline.
I think this is, uh ****.
I can't even think of the coach's name in Atlanta.
But I think this is his last game.
I got Carolina 21 17.
Um, next we got what could be a pretty good game, man.
We got the Raiders traveling to Kansas City to face the Chiefs 1 p.m. Kickoff.
Who you gotta be? Uh, yeah, the Chiefs.
I should mark you down for the Chiefs every week because you said you pretty much go pick them every week.
I kind of feel the same way.
And let's let's Patty go down or something like that.
So I got the cheese 30 to 21.
Hey, make sure you you get you.
If you don't have your scores down, write them down.
I'm having trouble with this sheet right now.
Um, next game, we got Arizona traveling to New York to face of jets 1 p.m. kickoff.
Who you got? I got Arizona 27 13.
Yeah, I got I got Arizona.
Actually, I got Arizona 27 to 10 I think Joe Flacco starting today.
My old my old quarterback Hill. Baltimore.
Yeah, I think that's gonna get ugly.
27 to 10 Cardinals in my book.
We got the Philadelphia Eagles traveling to short travel to Pittsburgh to face the still is 1 p.m.
Who you got? I got Pittsburgh pulling it out.
Yeah, I got Pittsburgh 27 24.
The Eagles of just I think they could play with anybody, man, but they just go up and down, so I think Pittsburgh looking like a well oiled machine right now.
So I got them winning that game.
Um, next up, we got the Los Angeles Rams coming close to us, traveling to D. C.
To face Kwan's watching football club team.
Whatever their name is, uh, 1 p.m. Quick.
Who do you got? Ready.
I have the Rams 37 9 di speaking up that I got the ranch 24 to 14.
But you know real quick, you could jump in here on this to, uh, Brandon E.
I wish Corn was with us to talk about this, but I think you know what they debacle down there in d.
What they did to the young boy, Dwayne Haskins is it's typical Washington football club.
Washington Redskins is typical.
This boy has started with 11 games.
He's had two coaches in that time and they already smearing them like they did with Robert Griffin and all the rest of them, not them.
I should have loaded up the mean It was a mean with Robert Robert talking Thio.
Yeah, Get out there, man.
It's just a shame, man.
And we always weigh tease corn about it.
We have to cheat them about it for a long time now.
But, like, it's the truth, man.
That's what they do down there is a ****.
Well, the night they drafted him, I said they were gonna ruin them.
You're gonna ruin him.
I wanted Haskins for the Giants.
We got Daniel Jones.
The verdict still out on him.
But I like Daniel Jones, but I wanted Haskins at one point, but they ruin him he got to get out.
Yeah, it's a It's a mess.
It's a mess. Moving on.
We have the Cincinnati Bengals traveling to Baltimore to face the Ravens.
Who you gotta be.
I got Baltimore in this one, uh, not a route, but 34 13.
I guess you could call that a route.
Typically, Claire's tough. I don't know why.
I don't I'm not sure if Joe mixing.
I think it was at least questionable.
Yeah, I think I think he's I think he's gonna play today, I think. Okay.
So I got it being I gotta be in a little more closer than I would like it to be, but I got Baltimore ultimately winning 31 20.
Next game, we got Jacksonville traveling to Houston to face the and four Texans who just fired their coach.
Who you got B e got the Texans rallying around Romeo and pulling.
This went out 23 20.
Yeah, I went with the Texans again.
Like I have gone with them the last.
It's hard to better gets the Shawn Watson even when they're losing you.
I don't know why.
Yeah, every week.
I'm like, All right.
That's gonna be the week they get it together.
So I'm gonna do this again.
I got Houston 24 21 getting that first up of the year.
Hopefully, the next game, the first four o'clock kick off, we got Miami traveling in San Francisco.
Thio face the 40 Niners who we got here.
I got this one being ah, closer game than what people might think, but I still has San Francisco pulling it out.
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Um uh, I think Jimmy, Jimmy G and M R back man.
I got San Francisco 28 to 20 this week getting back, you know, to themselves and looking like the Super Bowl contender that we that we thought they would be coming into.
So this this pizza? Mm e was gonna say Sam friends, uh, they dbs a little beat up.
I think Miami might take advantage of that a little bit today.
Yeah, that's why I gave Miami 20 points.
I think they Miami, Miami, scrappy man.
They play they tough.
You know what I mean? They come into the week with nothing to lose, and I think that's on the coach.
You know Bryan Flores over too much, though.
Yeah, but I think he got I think Brian Floor has got them playing.
He got them coming in there with the like, Yeah, Look, we ain't got nothing to lose for sure.
So let's go out there and play hard.
So Yeah, I got them.
I got them making it tough, but I got 4 to 40 Niners running away with it.
Uh, the next game we got the Indianapolis Colts traveling to Cleveland to face the Browns for 25 kickoff.
Who you gotta be, um, e picked.
I picked the colts in this one.
I did this the other day.
I'm not sure why I picked the Colts, because screen thinking, Cleveland.
But I have down here the Colts.
So I'm gonna go with whatever my first instinct was.
I'm not sure what that waas, but I got colts 23 13.
I must have thought I was looking at another game.
But I'm gonna go with it.
Yeah, I got I got the coast, man.
I've been picking them pretty consistent over the last 334 weeks.
So I got I got in the winning 21.
Um, we don't know what Brown's team.
You know, the Browns got a lot of talent, man, but sometimes Baker is Baker and he turns into a turnover machine.
So what? The courts gotta move the ball? E ain't looking too good.
Yeah, I was like, I gotta with him about two possessions, But hey, I'm gonna go with it.
We got your boys the New York Giants traveling in Dallas to face the Cowboys 4 25 Kickoff.
Where you gotta be, Even if I thought Dallas was the better team, I'm still gonna pick the Giants is no way I'm gonna pick the cowboys.
I just can't do it.
I got this one in today.
You know, First Dub.
I couldn't see you picking against your team two weeks in a row.
I figured you will definitely go with the Giants this week, but I'm gonna go with the Cowboys, 24 21.
Shout out to my man, Eric, who's been texting me, reminding me that I used to be a Cowboys fan before the Ravens got the Baltimore.
There you go, Eric.
It's on the record.
I said it in front of everybody.
Hey, Cowboys offensive line is beat up.
Today we got we got a top five defense and yardage. I think.
I think our defensive line gets after him today.
I could see that.
I could definitely see that.
The a 20 game man we got.
The Viking is traveling to Seattle.
The face the Seahawks.
Yeah, I got I got Seahawks.
I think this is gonna be a close 1 to 34.
Minnesota, That's That's another team that's, like, talented.
Expected to be better than they looking right now.
So again, you don't know what team you won't get with them.
But I got rustling.
I'm gonna go with rusting to see the Seahawks rust looking like the early M v P.
So I got the Seahawks 27 21 no, no. Jamal Adams.
I think Seattle missing a couple of guys back there.
I think dealing he's a beast.
He might be a take advantage of that.
Put some points on the board, but yeah, I'm going for us to like you said.
You know, Kurt, We've seen Kurt.
Well, Captain Kurt, he's good for he's good for Kurt.
Oh, um, Monday, Man, we got a doubleheader.
Well, no, we don't.
It was a scheduled doubleheader, but the Denver and New England game has been postponed until next week.
Do the cove it, covert.
Running through the NFL like crazy, like we spoke.
Spoke about last week.
So we do have we still have on Monday night the Chargers traveling to New Orleans to face the Saints at 8. 15.
Who you gotta be? I got the saints 34 20.
Yeah, I went with the same.
So I got the same 27 21.
The charges, man.
They've been putting up points.
That young boy, Herbert Justin everywhere his name is You're looking good, man.
No, Austin echl.
Er, yeah, but you know my man Tyrod.
He keeps getting bad breaks, you know, lost his starting job again.
But the young boy has been doing well, so but I got New Orleans pulling it out at home.
Now, this game, um, which is will be a Tuesday kick off.
I'm not sure right now is still on the schedule, too to happen, I think, Yes, they won't be scheduled to happen.
But this morning there was another positive test for the Tennessee Titans who who's had tight the closet covert test all through the last two weeks.
So the facility just opened yesterday was shut down again because one of the coaches tested positive this morning.
So I don't know if they will face the Buffalo Bills on Tuesday or not, but we can pick it anyway.
If you would like Brandon, we got the Buffalo Bills traveling to Tennessee or Tuesday, Tuesday kickoff at seven PM Who you got? I got buffalo 31 17.
Yeah, I'm gonna go with the bills man.
The bill is a good man. I got.
It's too much going on in Tennessee and I don't think this game is gonna happen.
But if it does, I got Buffalo running away with one underway with this 32 20.
So that's how the East, that's our NFL pick them picked him.
Let me throw corns picks up here.
This'll this'll be funny.
They all tell me if you all can read this ****, It's way.
Really? Think that corn? Yeah, that's in Jordan to write down his picks for But believe it or not, Corn has picked against his team again this week.
So it's two weeks in the world row.
He got the he got the Rams beaten.
Washington You got Pittsburgh beating Philly.
Arizona be in New York, KCB in the Raiders.
I think that's Jacksonville beating Houston.
Baltimore being sensi Atlanta Getting their first win against Carolina noticed that.
Hey, got the 40 Niners beating Miami.
You got Dallas being giant.
You guys you had will be in many hey picked the New England game, but that's not happening until next week.
He got New Orleans winning in a close one against the Chargers, and he got Tennessee beating Buffalo.
If they play, I think he's missing the game.
Cleveland, right? I thought he said Dallas sucks.
That was just like when I picked Atlanta.
The win last week.
You know, they lost to the Cowboys.
Hey, got him putting up 24 on this today.
Yeah, he, uh I'm sure he was just picking against Yeah, a That was a generous score.
Hey. Was picking against you also.
Yeah, man, we wanted to get that in just in time before the kick off of the games.
I didn't want to rap to you, um, about the NBA playoffs.
And I got you know, I got my resident.
You know, Specialist, your insider waiting in the waiting room.
So I want to get him in here.
Thio, talk about the NBA playoffs.
Everybody welcome the man.
The myth, the legend.
Alex, What's up, bro? How you feeling, man? E was ****ed of the night.
I tell you, that s o Alex, man, I know you.
All those that follow lake in central podcast Follow.
Follow Alex on Twitter, man, He got a special bottle ready to crack when these boys win this championship.
And I say when? Because I think it's just a matter of time.
I think I actually think it's gonna happen tonight.
So, Alex, I start with you, man.
Give a couple of thoughts on the game the other night. Friday night.
What do you think went wrong? Well, you think they could be better on anything gonna happen tonight? Man, it is a tight game.
Miami is a good team.
Said that coming into the Siri's, they weren't gonna like they weren't gonna go down without fighting.
And Jimmy Butler's played exceptionally well in the Finals.
He's been unbelievable.
Um, uh, I would've preferred if they started the game with a D at center and Markieff at power forward rather than Dwight.
I think Vogel made a mistake by by playing a little too much toe white, but the game was close, man.
Lakers had a shot to win, and then it was like four possessions at the end.
They couldn't score and get any separation and then comes down to the last shot.
Danny Green, you know, and he had his Robert Ory moment, you know, what I'm saying? Like he could have.
And he short armed it.
And Mark, if for whatever reason, trying to get it back in the a d didn't realize that Danny was still behind him open.
LeBron was on the wing open.
I mean, they had a shot, man.
They had a shot.
They end up turned, turned the ball over at the end.
So I mean, hey, but e read the two minute report and then they said it was the foul, Um, that they called on the Lakers that put Jimmy Butler on the line.
He shouldn't have been on the line.
I probably didn't need to read that, you know, I'm saying because that doesn't help.
But those free throws put them ahead, and it's just like, yeah, but I was Friday night.
So yeah, so I'm not a Lakers fan, right? I do want LeBron to win.
I do want him to get his fourth, But watching basketball, I am a basketball fan and watching this man like I don't know about you Yo, your Lakers fan.
I'm sick of Danny Green like I understand you know what he's done in the past.
I understand he's hit back big shots in the past.
He's a two time NBA champ, but you know, he hasn't done much throughout this bubble period.
So, me, personally, I would have liked to see in Cosmo on the floor.
Maybe KCP being that guy at the tape at the top of the top of the wing, uh, or the art Thio to be there for that shot if it's there because KCP to me has been born.
They didn't have any more time outs.
That was another issue.
They were all out of time outs.
So, like it? Yeah.
You know, Marquis had his He had his J.
Smith moment. He had a brain ****. Yeah.
You know what? It looked like? You It just looked like so Danny Green.
It just looked like Okay, he didn't want that shot.
Right? But he's been there before, but it just looked like he didn't want it.
But Mark Keith, it just looks like somebody has never been there.
You know what I mean? With that much riding on it like he totally totally froze.
And I get what he was trying to do because I don't know who was guarding a D, but he had had a position.
Hey, we're gonna turn around and dunk that ****, but the past I'm like, bro.
It was only six seconds left.
Time was ticking like once.
You can't get it in K.
P was open on the wing. Danny Green was behind him.
LeBron was open on the other wing.
Like Or either that or just pull up and shoot the jumper yourself.
Like don't turn the ball over.
Don't turn the ball over.
I think Last thing you wanna do there is turn the ball over.
I know, Brandon, you say, I know you said you didn't really get a chance to watch that game, but I will say, you know, it was a great gay like that was that was basketball.
Ron and Jimmy were going at it was going at it, and I mean, if you want a game, you want an MBA game, You wanna MBA close out game? You wanna NBA Finals game, a playoff game, whatever you want that type of game because them dudes was going hand and it was.
It was great to see.
I think Jimmy has become a superstar before our eyes.
I think LeBron is showing the world that yo, you all say what y'all want.
I'm still that dude, and it is what it is, you know? Look, man, you you can't let guys like Tyler here on Duncan Robinson have 17 and 18 points, like in a closed and a potential closed out game.
They can, but they're also young players.
And then the potential close out game.
When you have the Lakers with a veteran team, you're supposed to be the ones that come out on top, right? Like Jimmy can be Jimmy.
But everybody else is like, bam only had seven points.
So if you're shutting bam down and but Jimmy still, Jimmy, you can't let the other dudes on the team feature that Miami only played seven guys that entire game.
That that Duncan Robinson is That dude, I was saying the whole time watching the game to myself like he's that guy in the that you playing at the sports Club that you know? You don't expect to be nice.
He hit every and you eat that guy You wanna like, do a hard foul on because like, hey, had he had that four point play towards the end of the game, Kuzma fouled him, shooting the three and he hit the three.
And I was like, Yo, yeah, it's like he he's that annoying player that you play against that you like.
You look at him coming into the game like, man, that's my ****ing nothing on and then hitting shots like, yeah, because he could shoot And he's tall.
So, like, he has a high release point.
Yo, and it's accurate.
It's not, especially if you get it off quick.
Yeah, but I agree with Alex.
You can't You can't let them catch.
You can't let him be one of the two.
You might be able to let do something either him a hero, but not both of so Lakers Lakers gotta come out focus tonight like don't let this get to a Game seven because then all pressure, we on the Lakers like at that point, if Miami wins or loses, no one's going to care.
But if the Lakers melt down, that's like all the pressure is gonna be on them.
They need to close it up tonight.
Yeah, I think I think they will.
Um, but I agree with you again.
They got to close out the night because they'll hear it for the next couple of days until games.
Having about how they melt down, how they about to lose, how they let the lead go.
They don't want to go into a Game seven dealing with that.
So I think they close out the night.
Um, LeBron had 40.
You can't let LeBron LeBron play.
You don't let those kind of games goto waste like that was a typical LeBron close out game.
You can't let that go to waste.
Yeah, And I was thinking that, too.
When we last spoke about how I brought that Boston game, it was the opposite way around to close out game.
The Boston was up.
It was close game for them and how he came in there.
And he bought like that.
Every shot he took, it seemed like it was going in.
And that's how it felt, you know, uh, going into.
That's how I felt with that game Game five.
Like he was he was, he was locked in.
So I do want to say like there have been some fans like that have threatened Danny Green's wife and all that like you're lame like man, I wish he would hit the shot.
I'm one of the biggest Laker fans around, but like threatening his wife and like the bullying and all that nonsense like, Look, that's a that's uncalled for, man.
Like, what if somebody came to your job and every mistake you made was it was broadcasting on TV every single day, like Come on, that is like, That's when people take it a bit too far.
Like Come on, bro.
I you know, you got a little bit too much time on your hands when you're doing that type of stuff, uh, trying to, you know, mess with the people's family and sending hate messages and like, All right, come on, that za bit too much.
So I want to ask you, Alex like, what's the injury update on a D? I know it was something going on with this foot or whatever.
Hey, heard his hill earlier in the playoffs, but he banged it on.
I think Duncan Robinson's knee and reaggravated it, but he gonna play.
I mean, at this point in the season, that's like something's broken.
You gotta be out there.
I mean, so that that was another thing like that was why I thought it was important to close out Miami on Friday like all these games and you can't keep playing, but also for Miami, like Jimmy's been playing 45 plus minutes every night.
I mean, he looked when he after his press conference, he was like you.
So he was gingerly walking and lifting and like, he was he like, Oh, man, you know what I'm saying? Yeah.
So now do you saying that? Talking about the injuries, talking about a d hurt his foot? There was a moment, I guess it was the second time where he reacted.
Rated it, um, after the initial time, when he went down and he was he stayed on the floor.
But he was running up and down the court, limping and Ginger yo, Would you rather him on the floor? Half of what he is? Would you have wanted to see him taking out? Because that me watching the game, I'm like, all right, you know he's not helping because now a D F 50% is better than a lot of players is right.
But, you know, a lot of times it was four or five coming down the court because he, you know, he was sold to get down there and then on the defensive end, he just couldn't move.
Uh, you know, laterally as quickly as he usually is.
And a lot of the times he was up top facing Jimmy or whoever Whoever had the ball up top.
So you're watching the game at that moment, would you? Would you have liked to see him taking out at that moment? Or was it? You know, we gotta we gotta ride with a d at that moment, whether he's 50% or not.
No, I was cool with them waiting for the time out, but I think they called a time out after the one where he was kind of like laying on the floor and got him out the game.
And he came back in and he was limping.
But then as he kind of warm back up, then the limp went away.
I mean, it's the finals, man.
You know what I'm saying? Like he got he got to go.
And if he can't, then he can't like I'm not one of those people.
That's like, Well, you need to sacrifice.
No, if you could go, go.
If you can't, then you don't go.
But right, he they asked a lot of him like he you know, he played Jimmy well the night before, uh, the game before.
And it was a lot to ask him to chase Jimmy around all game long.
He could do it, but I think that takes this toll on him also.
So e mean they got to close out.
I mean, I really hope they close it out tonight.
Uh, they got a They need to close it out, not mess around.
Yeah, I'm with you.
So you just had thio hold your bottle for another day, Day and a half or whatever.
You still ice ready to be crack, huh? You still got your bottle ready or ice ready to be? Oh, yeah.
It's sitting on a bar man like that.
That last possession I was standing up.
And should they like like the fireplaces in front of she moved it then she moved the table behind because she's like, I don't know how he's gonna react.
And of course, they you know, the game in it, the way the game in it.
And I was I was dejected.
I was just like, you know, I can't Honestly, I don't know if it's like an age thing, but like these games take their toll on me and awaited.
I don't recall them doing when I was, like, 20 third Street crazy.
You know, that reminds me of that picture.
I mean, yeah, it's true.
You know, like last year, you know, we were at corners.
I was watching the playoffs with the Ravens facing the Titans, and, you know, it was supposed to be like a party.
But, you know, I'm sitting, man, I'm like, you know, you always there. We ended up drinking.
I ended up drinking my sorrows away that night.
But it does hit you a little differently down like it's like, ****, yeah, I can't I don't know how much longer I could take this type of, uh, you know, this type of heartache over some sports, but well, I'm a knicks man, you've got a way to go.
So, Brady What You what you're thinking for the night, man.
You any predictions on the night? Uh, Game six.
Another close out opportunity for the Lakers, man.
You think they get it done? Um, I think the Lakers are gonna win the championship still, but they like like, so they better hurry up and do it.
I mean, LeBron, I'm not worried about LeBron its's all the rest of the guys you guys mentioned Mark Keith crumbling, Uh, Danny Green not hitting this, I think Danny Green, I think a little bit higher of Danny Green than than what, you guys.
Well, then what you said, Mike.
Um, but I actually wouldn't mind him taking, you know, a last second shot.
But it really depends on you know, the supporting cast around LeBron LeBron is gonna bring it.
It's time for the one.
So I think I'm gonna say I'm gonna say the Lakers win tonight.
I'm gonna say tonight, you know, LeBron closes it out.
Um, it's a close game and and he takes over at then.
So you know another thing.
You just You just reminded me again.
I want to get both of your opinion on this.
Do you think the warrant? Do you think the backlash seven brown is getting now is warranted about him? Not what you have taken the last shot.
Like you mean the one Danny Green took.
Yeah, well, they wanted.
So you have people out here saying that when LeBron drove to the basket which draw to people, no matter what and double team or not, they would have wanted him to take.
They wanted him to take that shot.
Look, man, look, Danny Green was, like, wide open, wide open.
All right, look, LeBron ain't Kobe, man.
Kobe probably would've pulled up and taking that jumper with three people on.
I have to cut you off.
I wish I had loaded it up, but there is a picture of Kobe taking a shot with four people around.
And they're like, This is what I wanted.
Lebron todo I mean, look, the people, it's like Magic Johnson isn't Michael Jordan like people aren't man.
If he had forced a shot up cool.
But then if he had forced it, missed that, they would have been killing him for forcing it and missing it like it doesn't even matter.
Danny Green was wide open.
They got the look that they want it.
They even got the rebound afterwards.
So did to reduce to LeBron just didn't take a shot.
You know, that's that's lazy.
That's true. They get the rebound.
I think, you know, again, we said it last week.
LeBron is ****ed.
If you do, then if you don't you know, I wouldn't e would have been mad if he took the shot.
I do think you like.
You said if he took it, forced it up and it was a bad shot.
They would have been killing them either way.
I think LeBron is the type of player to make the right play over, forcing the play right and what he did was the right basketball play.
He drew two people and had one of one of his better shooters were supposed to be better shoes.
Why, I'd open wide open on I.
Actually, I actually would prefer Danny maybe to swing it one more time to K C.
P in the corner because to Brandon's point kcp, he's played look, KCP has stepped his game up.
He's been more reliable.
Danny Green has Danny Green Streak.
He's always been streaky, But last year in the finals, I believe he shot 45% from three.
You just missed a wide open shot.
Like what you gonna do? Yeah, So, I mean, I get the people that saying, like, you live and die with your with your king or whatever, but he made the right basketball play like he lived with it.
He lives with the Open.
I mean, he had this guy wide open, and I've seen I've seen bread.
And I actually seen the comment that you made on your brother's post about, you know, Michael Jordan making that same pass to Steve Kirk or the John and John John Paxson. Yep.
So it just so happens they hit that shot now, Yeah, if Danny Green hits it, we do have in a completely different conversation, so I don't know, man LeBron, Let's just get it done, man.
LeBron get it done, bro.
I can't. I can't handle.
I drank half a bottle of tequila yesterday.
I can't I can't handle a law show like I just can't LeBron get these people off your nuts? Yeah, Going to be No.
I was just gonna say I mean as an MBA, and I I personally wouldn't mind seeing Miami pull off an upset.
But I am also LeBron James fan, and I just even if he wins, he's not going to quiet the, you know, the haters.
But I want him to win so badly because of that.
Like, yeah, it's not gonna stop.
But it's it's ridiculous.
Yeah, well, I wanted to.
There was something There was some other MBA.
No news that we didn't really get to speak on last week.
But I wanted to get you guys to speak on it this week.
There was an MBA hiring on the low, not on the low, but, you know, it happened pretty quickly.
You know, Doc Rivers is the new coach of the 70 Sixes.
What do you guys think? Man, that is higher like, does it work in Philly? Man, let's assume that he's rocking with the same team that he has now because, you know, let's talk out there now that this team won't be ableto win together, that they need to move and beat or sentence.
Let's say that they don't.
They don't move either.
They say they stick with this squad Is doctor right guy to get these guys going? Or do you think Doc and then need to move one of these One of these kids? Uh huh.
Okay, um, I am not a Philly sports trained, so I want to see them break the team up.
Uh, if New York didn't have Mitch Robinson, I actually I still wouldn't mind having indeed Or or or Ben Simmons, But no, Seriously, like, I think I think Philly is going to be.
I mean, still be a team thio to reckon with in the East.
I think they will be better under Doc Rivers.
I'm not sure what they need to do.
You know, personnel wise, you've got you have two players who can play.
I mean, Ben Simmons.
He could get to the rack on any given moment.
You don't necessarily need to shoot.
You got Embiid who he could score.
Um, I if it was me, if I was the GM, I would try to find a way to make it work with both of them.
I'm really not interested.
I really wouldn't try to trade either one of them.
But especially now I got Doc Rivers.
Give it a least a year.
See what happens.
Yeah, I think you've given it.
I think you give it to your docks.
A good coach, man.
I mean, he's a good coach.
Um, there's talk of them like moving Simmons, Thio, thio the Timberwolves.
So because the timbers have a high draft pick and maybe they end up taking Lemelle Oh, ball.
But at that point, and this is we're going into and beat seventh season.
So if you take if you take a draft pick, I mean that draft picks not gonna be ready with along the same timeline is and be there, so that doesn't make sense.
Then there's talk of actually moving, potentially moving and be to the Clippers for, like, Paul George.
I don't give them a year.
Maybe given the All Star break, I don't know, give him something and see if it works.
But, hey, they don't I mean, I don't know if they fit well together, man.
I mean, and beach probably shoots a little too much.
Simmons doesn't shoot it all like, Look, Simmons is really just a more athletic Alonzo ball man.
That's what he is.
And so he's been in the league now what, four or five years? And at some point like LeBron's Jumper wasn't great at all when he first came in, but he was over.
Time has gotten way better.
Simmons jumper hasn't improved at all like he just doesn't shoot.
E don't know what you do with a guy that just won't shoot at all.
Hey, shot it a little bit more this year.
I would e would say he's a little bit better than just, ah, more athletic Lonzo ball.
Like his ability to finish around the hoop, you know, especially off the break.
Like I don't think Lonzo ball has that same ability.
A present? Well, he is six.
Well, well, it is an advantage.
But, I mean, not a lot of players can, you know, can finish around the hoop the way Sometimes he does shots that a lot of other players just if you attempt to do it, you sitting on the bench.
But, you know, um so I I would give Ben some a little bit more credit, although I don't think Lonzo Ball is a bad player.
I think this year is a make or break year for Will not make a break, but it's kinda will probably be a pivotal year for Alonso, and I think he'll get better.
But in any case, I don't know if I'm in Philly.
I try to make it work.
I think to me personally, you know, watching on the outside.
And I think when they lost JJ Red****, I thought he was like, a key piece to, uh that they had a couple of years ago.
Um, you know, they had the outside shooting.
They had the inside outside.
Um and I thought when they lost him, I thought they started to trend downward.
Maybe, you know, they had some things that they had to do GM wise.
But I don't know.
I find the right JJ has come out recently and tweeted that did.
You shouldn't have let me go.
Oh, I didn't know that.
I thought they they I thought they treated down.
It was I was surprised that they let him go because it was the money that big contract extension they gave Tobias Harris And then, um what's his name? Al Horford.
20 mil per something like that.
They made the wrong move.
I mean, all hope for this.
I would I would like him on my team as well.
He's a good player, but I think JJ Red**** was a piece that they needed.
They needed to find other pieces and keep JJ, but they needed They need shooters around Ben Simmons and Embiid and radicals.
A heck of a shooter.
So and a great veterans.
I don't You know, they gamble.
Went, went the wrong way.
I mean, Jimmy Butler to write Jimmy.
Jimmy, Jimmy was the problem, remember? And to be honest with you, I think Jimmy just needed the right pieces around him to, um but Philly.
I mean, hey, I don't know how you get rid of Jimmy Butler.
Is he that **** eso a couple of days with this? This Sixers team album brand is the GM, right? I'm glad you know these players, these young brothers getting getting shots at being ex players, getting shots at being GM front, off of jobs and stuff like that.
The Al Horford signing Al Horford healthy Al Horford being Al Horford and that he was in Boston.
It's not a good fit.
It would never a good fit.
So it just seemed like they started signing players because they could.
It wasn't about fit with them.
You know what I mean? Like that Al Horford thing.
It just I don't know.
That didn't work.
Letting Jimmy go was a mistake.
That was a huge mistake.
What happens with beefing with with other stars, Somebody's gotta go well, But see, this is what happens with Jim, right? Jimmy calls out these players, These young kids don't work hard.
And that's what he was seeing was Simmons.
That's what he was saying.
But him and yeah, him and and be seen to be cool.
So he must have been beefing with Simmons.
That must have been with he did anything in Minnesota.
He calling out, Call that call, You know, you know Andrew Wiggins and those cats like it's not so much of him being a problemas him like, Oh, y'all gotta grind like I'm grinding to like we out here like I'm making this as much money as you, if not more, and I'm working and I'm not working, trying to win a championship, and I think that's why he likes this team because they group of guys who you know, he's the only superstar team.
They're a group of guys that all work hard, and I think that's why he likes it.
That's why he's doing so well with this team.
But Philly? I mean, even the Tobias Harris signing it just felt like it was something they, you know, a move that they felt they had to do because they traded.
They traded draft picks to get him.
I believe, Yeah, it just seems like I'll put it this way.
It doesn't seem like it is much or any rhyme or reason behind the moves that they've made over the last couple of years, and that's the moves that they've made and putting pieces around and be.
And in sevens, I'm with you, Brandon.
I think that it can possibly work with the right coach.
I've said that on some about text threads and some of our conversations.
That was off the record Pun intended, Um, but I think that it took the right.
I think it takes the right coach, so I'm with you as well, Alex like, give it a year.
We'll give it to all the all star break, see what they can do with each other.
But they're gonna give it a year because Because if it doesn't work this year, then ownership is gonna start looking at Elton Brand because black Because black gm got a short leash anyway, So he's gonna have thio.
I mean, this will be the year, right? Otherwise somebody's gotta go.
Yeah, and you know, Thio piggyback off of that.
Just like I said last week about certain players in the NBA.
The cute nous is wearing off and fill.
Their people are looking for results from this team.
Now the process is over.
Yeah, that all of that.
Trust the process ****.
People trusted it for a couple of years now, and it hasn't done anything.
So now the first move was firing the coach, so that buys them a little bit of time Or it wasn't.
It was the coach.
The coach wasn't doing what he's supposed to do.
So now they got doc dot coms in championship coach.
He needs to do something with this team.
If he doesn't, then you write.
Either they're gonna be looking at brand.
Either gonna look at out and and blame him, or they're gonna have to make you know it's gonna be Ah, move.
That has to be made.
Now, I've also heard rumors that the Warriors are trying to get in beat.
So So that's they pull it off, you know? ****.
So that that'll be I don't know, man, but it will be, I'm sure Phillies phone is ringing off the hook.
I'm sure a lot of people are enquiring intestine, seeing just how how much Philly is actually in the game and willing to trade one of them.
What? Well, you know, Philly Philly has been a lot of the leash.
Might be a little bit longer than we think, because you know, Philly for a while.
You know, during this trust, trust the process thing, and And prior to that, Philly wasn't really wasn't really contended for nothing.
I mean, Philly just got nice within the last, you know, a few years or so, you know, even when and beat.
And Ben Simmons was first there like they were, they were rotating.
They would get, they would just collecting picks and picks every year.
And it just seemed like, you know what? You you know what you're doing.
I was enjoying it because, you know, the Knicks weren't winning either.
But, um, you know, the only the least might be a little bit longer because they are better.
Then they were before the trust, the process, they a whole trust.
The process was okay.
They drafted and be right being needed.
What, two seasons? They sat him for two seasons with? Yeah, in Simmons.
Simmons starts the season.
Then they got to sit him.
Then they had Netherlands.
And, well, they drafted him.
It ain't member.
They they had had folks to mark out for.
Yeah, and they traded up to get votes because, remember, they could've stayed at three.
Yeah, just just a rash of mistakes there.
This sounds like the next on they had and they had drew holiday.
Remember? See, the Knicks will will draft good players.
We'll just we'll just trade them away.
That's why I mean that trust the process thing.
Like I just think that cute Mrs wearing off in Philly and they show Mawr this year in the playoffs when they when they accident early like they did.
Don't you remember? The league stepped in because they were purposely tanking, and that's what guy he removed.
And then they installed.
Uh, it was the to do's Colangelo, his him and his son, I believe.
And then? Then it was Jerry Colangelo.
Bryan Colangelo's wife leaked like player info on Twitter like the medical information.
And then they had to be outed.
Yeah, it was a mess, man.
And I just think that I think it's wearing off man like Simmons it and B I consider too young up and coming players on their way to, you know, So it's just it's just time.
It's just something else.
Something else to watch for.
Um, Ben Simmons is wrapped by Rich Paul.
And if Philly don't get right sooner or later, we know Rich Paul will do whatever rich Paul needs to do for his client.
Yeah, you know, I'm saying so and I'm not talking about getting them into L.
I'm just saying there's only but so long where Rich Paul clients going to sit there and they're not competing for championships.
Yeah, it's on, but it's not just feeling ****.
I think the cuteness is worn off in Houston with hardening hard and you hard, you could score all the points you want you winners when you could do all the step backs.
You know, all that ****.
But whoever lands there, they talking about Jeff Van Gundy? Yeah, just one coach.
They saying that now I've heard.
I know they have started like Vernon Maxwell, some of the older players and starting a movement.
They're trying to get Sam Sam Cassell back home saying to get that job.
I do want to see Sam get a job, but I don't know, I just don't trust ownership there with that e.
I think I don't know if you know, that would be a good first job for saying with that **** ownership and everything going on with Daryl Morey and all of that crap.
But, I mean, you said it last week, Alec, with the Greek free que nous wearing all bro, you got two MVPs.
Defensive player of the year.
Like it's time people want to see you in the finals, bro.
You know, look, next is he's got one year left on his deal, so people are gonna be asking him every day next season.
What are you gonna do? What you gonna dio e mean the bucks? Don't don't win a championship.
I mean, I don't know if he leaves.
I don't know, but clearly Miami is lusting after, Uh, yeah, honest.
That's that's evident Lurking Miami's lurking.
So I don't know.
It's gonna be interesting, man.
But I tell you what e don't know if people don't know how many people feel this way.
But I think the bubble has It has really reignited the fire of the MBA for me.
E don't know about you guys, but I'm more now the bubble.
That's kind of like I got like Okay, yeah.
I can't wait to see what's gonna happen next year.
I kind of fell off from the MBA, you know, a couple of years, you know, I felt like the n b a.
Got still a little bit, especially.
I'm gonna tell you what was doing it for me in the NBA.
Like I got tired of like seeing Golden State and Cleveland in the finals like it's like, you know, like it will be a good year leading up to the playoffs, But then way within the year with the same two teams and its life.
Yeah, you already know you've gotta wait 82 games in four rounds of playoffs toc the matchup that you knew what was gonna happen six months ago.
Eso I got a little still for me, But you know, this being a year where we're seeing two different teams and, you know, you know, we've seen LeBron is still there, but we're seeing two different teams, e I don't know.
I'm feeling the India I'm back to fill in the NBA.
You know, I think the bubble has played a part in that because I think we have seen good basketball going on in the bubble.
Now I wanna ask you all this and then we could wrap up if you all would like.
What do you say to the people saying that this bubble is nothing but l a fitness basketball, like, you know, that's for the critics of the bubble critics of this championship.
Because as soon as the brown ones that they're going to say it was it was in the bubble.
What do you guys think? What do you guys say to those people, that's that's questioning what this final would be.
And you know, once his one and just bubble basketball period, man, you ask, Ask those Heat players or the Lakers players.
Clearly, they're playing hard.
Like this isn't just because fans aren't in the stands doesn't mean this basketball is any less important.
And I'd argue that the mental toll it's taken on these guys, they've been in the bubble over 90 days.
That is a long ass time to be away from majority of your family.
So people talking that nonsense, they probably picked up a basketball day in their life anyway.
Okay, what do you say? E don't really have much, much to say to folks like It's not rational thinking.
I mean, if you're just not interested, you're not interested.
That doesn't make it any less important to the to those involved with those who are interested.
So stop drinking the hater read.
Listen, man, you've had a couple of players come on and say I think one was metta World Peace.
That said like, this is probably the hardest championship Thio, because, you know, it's mentally what these players had to go through.
Like you said, I was being locked away from you from your family for three plus months.
You know, having to be in one place, not being able to move the way that you want to move, you know, just being around the normal, you know, your normal life, like their Florida.
Right? So people was like, Yo, it's Florida, but at the same time, it's not their home in hotels.
Yeah, I don't like we've all traveled for work.
And, like the most I've ever been away from my home is, I think, a week or two weeks for work.
And after a couple of days, even though I've been in nice hotels, you're like, Yo, you wanna go home at a certain Yeah, it's been three months, man.
Yeah, like and, you know, three months and can be, you know, away from your family.
You know, they let some family come in, but they're still, you know, other family you ain't seen you ain't seen your mom's.
You know what I'm saying? You ain't seen that type of family, so you might not seeing your brother, the sisters.
So for those people, that's that's knocking the bubble man, saying this was the easy ride and the easy road for whoever wins the championship.
I think that's bull****.
You know, remember what these kids these cats are going through.
Imagine putting yourself there.
Like Alex said, You travel from working, you don't see your family, you know, for three months by cut it out.
Tweeted bull****, George basketball people how many championships they got? Right? Because you know what's gonna happen when when it's closed out? When the check.
When? When the playoffs over Ain't gonna be no basketball.
Then people will be bored out there.
They're gonna be wishing that they had bubble still.
Well, they got the NFL, right? Yeah.
We'll see how we'll see how long that lasts.
Because Covert is running through the NFL right now at a crazy, crazy piece.
But we'll see how that goes.
We'll talk about that next week.
I think that's the show, fellas.
Anything and closing.
Y'all wanna mention you think you've got Brandon? Um, no.
Again, just be on the lookout for that spill of episode that we recorded.
Uh, we're gonna be releasing the 50th episode.
Mike, I'm pretty sure you're gonna hit on all of that? Um, I'm just about to go and, uh, and relax and watch some of these games and spend time with the missus.
All right, All right.
You got anything closing? No, man.
I'm just getting ready for tonight.
That's all I'm doing.
E save some of that pizza for the night.
I'm feeling a little famous right now.
I need to need to stock up that **** killer kick my ass e Well, I'll say this in closing, man.
Enjoy your Sunday fun day, man.
You gotta got a full slate.
You got the NBA Finals coming up later on the night.
Do it yourself. Be safe, people.
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