Have you seen nothing but Knicks on? We're here to talk some MBA news game tonight between the heat and the Lakers.
And if you wanna say hello to don't know anyone who's here on the right you want to say a little Thio, you guys? Uh, yes.
So, yeah, we're gonna go through some a few articles room before the game, but, yeah, you have any take backs from your predictions? I believe it was on a Wednesday.
You have to take that.
Sorry about that.
No, I don't have any take backs.
Um, is it e mean, Is there a chance that Miami can win? I guess there's a chance.
Like I said, like I said, Well, I think it was Wednesday, right? If they win, Miami does win tonight.
They're not going in the next game.
E don't think they went in the next, and I don't think there's no change to drive.
You couldn't see anything? Um, I would like to see if Spoelstra Riley on those players find a way to know a flop nullify eighties defense on butler because that seemed to be I would say one of the biggest difference makers.
I wouldn't say it was the only one.
I mean, you're playing a guy like a d.
He's an absolute freak.
So if it's featuring more players while eighties in there, I mean, now you're depending on guys like Duncan Robinson, who did have a decent game last game.
Tyler Herro? Um, yeah.
I love to see you, man.
I think that look, Spoelstra and those guys in the heat showed that they could play chess with the best of them.
Um, you know, I'm saying so it there's definitely a chance I'll never call the heat out.
There's, like a little gnat flying around.
I don't know why, but I'll never call the heat out of the game.
Uh, yeah, man, I gotta go with my guys, man.
I gotta go with you know, my guys, anybody that beats the biggest my guys.
But, you know, I gotta go, uh, and think that Jimmy Bullard has another Garin him again.
He only had, I believe, 22 points last game.
Um, so let's see.
But you bought from, uh, that station Stephen A.
Smith was talking about how essentially the you know you can't call LeBron.
You know you can't give him all this praise because he's playing in a soft the era.
And I'm trying to pull up the article really quickly because my head not okay and and you have people like Metta World Peace who fired back and all of yourself.
Because you know, LeBron James has his people to help.
Because let's be serious.
Metta world peace.
You're probably one of the icons of the of late nineties early, 2000 terms off being those tough knows players who could be affected for a team.
But, you know Yeah, I guess you wanna take up his side.
So how do you feel about that statement and some of the blowback that Stephen A.
Smith has been getting? I don't disagree with him.
I think this is a softer age of basketball, right? I mean, you cant foul.
Not that you wanted to foul jump shooters back in the day, but you can barely contest the three point shot nowadays, right? You could test the three point shot the wrong way.
You couldn't get a foul called on, you know, back in the day the way fouls were delivered.
Um, you know, you get a foul, you get a somebody commit a foul today, it's probably, you know, going to be looked at to see if it's flagrant.
Yes, the year it was a common foul, it was commonplace.
And you just playing through the game.
You know what I'm saying? Um, it is definitely a different game.
I would say today today's players are more athletic, faster, stronger, probably tougher.
I don't think so.
Well, I'm sorry.
Of course I opened up a article and everything is playing apologies for that.
You know, there's, I would say in the nineties when you had more than everywhere, they tried to make guys bulk up or not.
You probably saw somewhat of a lack of explosion.
But I mean, you know, our best of the best back then, I would say, is I think that some of the training methods, obviously 10 times better now the surgeries that you can get 10 times better now, like arthroscopic.
I mean, if you have any harder, Penny hardly literally came in this error.
He'd probably still be one of the best players just because let me get like, the Ultra Scott, sir, I believe it was his ankle or something, and they botched it.
Or, you know, it was it was, like, primitive or something.
And then I remember someone talking about was like that.
I think the same thing that, like Lamar Stoudemire got was like, right at the cusp of like being a lot better than it was back in like the nineties.
So I will say one thing.
I think in the nineties you did have strong guys I think is more of Ah, you have some more muscle bound guys enforcers.
You know that Dell Davis is the Charles Oakley's you know, you can't say eighties nineties.
Um, but there are a lot of explosive guys in the eighties now again because of how the game, I think now the game is just more open ended so you can see guys exploit their athleticism.
But if you go back to the eighties, I mean, even in the nineties, even Wilt Chamberlain, I mean the accomplishments that they said Well, Chamberlain could do just physically, you know, I mean, like football in terms of his ability to do stuff like they were just saying like this guy was a physical freak. Now, absolutely.
Change is the extreme of extreme.
But you know, when you look at Everest, people say, Oh, LeBron James, he's and they'll say, Oh, he's the most of it was like a versatile changeling and then even we look at Jordan, don't get me wrong LeBron James is a 68 freak who's jumping around.
He's a tight end, jumping around like a freaking like a ballerina, and I mean all, you know, respect respective.
But I mean, Jordan, this guy was flowing in the air.
This guy had humongous hands.
I mean, so I just think it's like a misnomer.
But I definitely agree that the errors of definitely softer and I'll say this all the European fans that want to come and say, Oh, you guys, listen, that that's why let's be honest.
Is doing this to open up the game to your being players, because European players means more visibility and more visibility means more money.
Is this stupid NASCAR More, uh, more visibility means more money.
Um, and that's why they Because back in the day when you're allowed to hand check.
Obviously, international is a little bit different, but our best players were able to play both sides of the ball and it got a little bit boring and I got a little bit concerning that.
You know, the MBA is tough league.
Where again after Jordan retired, scoring is down the league.
Many people look, you know, look a lot uglier.
And you know, these European players, Really, A lot of them didn't have really a space.
You have to be like Andrei Kirilenko.
Maybe a Linus plays it with the Nuggets, but for the most part, the game was really exposed.
But now it's exposed.
Now, everybody, you know, Euro step in travel.
And if you breathe in somebody, you get hurt.
You know you get a foul call.
Uh, if you hard fouls somebody, its's possibly a flagrant two.
So again, the MBA's attempt to expand the game has definitely made a software in my eyes.
I just can't put LeBron James won more championships.
That's a Jordan and even in context with which you win it, you know, I mean, I think that also council out when you look at Jordan's legacy.
You could only really look at one championship and say, Maybe he should have won the M V P.
But every championship was relatively dominant that the second, the second iteration of that three p That was a week of team in the first one.
Those first three championship that was, You call the talent wise.
They're stacked team, right? Let's say staff.
They were very good compared to the second team.
And he was able to win.
I mean, with a Pippen who just had a terrible back Rodman, who needed to go to Las Vegas two hours before a game or whatever, you know, I mean, and then, you know, to fill it out was like Steve Kerr, Young Ku coach.
I mean, I just when you talk about LeBron, you really look at two championships and say lucky and then this one, it's a bubble.
Yeah, I mean, so I'm not hating cause I know people say I'm hating, but I definitely agree with Stephen A.
Smith regards to is, uh, you had guys like Kendrick Perkins, you know, e don't know how he has.
I want everybody to be employed, but I don't know how Kendrick Perkins has that job when he literally provides.
So uh huh, e I mean, I mean, I agree with Stephen A.
I do think it's the game.
Is Mawr players and more athletic today? I actually even think that I mean, I don't even know if you mentioned that in article, but I actually do think that there's a higher level of skill today than it was back then.
You know, obviously you have your elite players that there would be justice athletic, but I think this Mawr players that athletic today.
Then there was back then more plays with that athleticism and the skill level as far as what people could do. The ball.
You know, the footwork, those type of things I think is unmatched in today's game.
You think the footwork is better now? Yes.
So what about I refute that? Because the signs of good footwork to an MBA is also the post game and outside of some few players, and I know it's coming back with some of the smaller guards.
Obviously, Butler is really.
But for the most part, you could argue that, given the fact that back in the day you know, in the eighties you have these big tall centers, and your average center had decent footwork.
Decent, not Not necessarily great but decent to try to create some space.
And that is not existed in today's game.
Now, obviously looking out, it's not.
You have your luggage, but it's very few.
I mean, cat, you can say a little bit, but that those Sanders had footwork now.
So this is what this is what I see.
It different, right? Mm.
Statements we have today.
They have footwork in the post.
They just don't play in the post.
But you could put them in the post. You can.
You can put somebody there If they didn't have defense on them and look at their footwork, identity, they could drop step.
They could do all type of things down there.
They may not do it.
I'm saying, without defense are I guarantee you you could take one of these players that don't really play in the post during the game, and you say, do a drop step.
I bet you they could do a drop step or, you know, take two steps in spend backwards do a jump hook.
They just don't do it in the game.
Right? Just like we watch Mitchell Robinson.
He could shoot the three, but he can't do it in the game.
Um, I think that, you know, I think they could do the footwork.
They don't, You know, they don't play that position because they're playing.
They're more perimeter oriented today.
The centers, which, which is something that I think, uh, I mean, I guess those players back then if they learned how to play on remember those centers, they could, uh, but I think the centers can't do the footwork because they grow up doing these things.
Obviously, there's some centers that probably can't, but they grow up.
They mean they grow up with trainers today.
You know what I mean? Every kid has these little trains.
They grow up with trainers today.
I guarantee if you take Mitchell Robinson the ass and do it drops that people do a drop step.
One, you are around a basketball, You know, they're not teaching the majority's kids those type of fundamentals, you know? But this is the thing.
This is what I'm saying.
Those some of those basic steps.
These kids do it before they're even taught.
Like if you go I mean, if you go look at some of these players and when they're warming up, we'll talk about you.
Right When they're warming up, they're doing drop steps.
They do a drop stepping, they dunk it, they do a drop step in.
They do it with two hands, right? And I'm talking about 6 10 guys.
Then they go out on the perimeter and they work on.
The move is going to the basket.
Euro step to the basket when you get into the game is a different story because you may not have the strength to be able Thio, you know, back your defender down, you know, and do those type of things, but they can actually do the footwork.
They just may not be able to do it with defense on.
So you have Thio take into account execution because you do everything you say you could do right? You know, practice players, guys in practice, they could hit every shot they come into.
The game is like, what happened to everything? You just did a freaking practice and there are garbage back, they will kill you.
And if you can't execute on the court at least of the point put like this your best centers coming into the game, right? Or at least let us say investment your top 15 whatever you want, Quote.
They should be able to have those basic steps and be able to do it on the court.
Now, I'm not talking about I'm talking about doing a court and also you talk about strength, obviously is, you know, muscle memory, things like that, right? There's gonna be functions.
So if you keep doing something and you're good at it, your body is gonna be functionally stronger and doing that, which means that you should be able to do it on the court.
And if you're not doing the court, I can't give you credit.
Say, Oh, you could do it if you e I mean, some players just don't want to do it on the court because that's not the way that they play, because you could take those centers from back in the day and they won't go out on the perimeter.
I'll give you something, I'll give you something you guys could e go out on the perimeter.
You look at the guards footwork today compared to the guards footwork back then mhm the guards footwork today to me really outweighs the footwork back then.
I'm saying now, part of it is the fact that they get the extra, you know, you know, they get to gather right, But if you look and see it, look and see some of the things back then you know, it was all about Oh, you didn't go off the right foot when you took that layer, right? You're supposed to go off of this book When you take your layer today, it don't matter what foot you go off.
Players can go off any foot and and find a way to score, find a way to score the ball.
The plethora shots that players have today.
Obviously the euro step brought in a whole new dimension in the way that guys understood how to step with the ball back in the day, it was just straight two steps to the basket.
Now you're two steps could go left, right, right, left.
You know, I'm saying, I mean, I think the food today is at a way higher level than it was back then.
But see, I'll say this about the footwork thing, right? I think that the game was just so much more regimented back then, where when you're a point guard, if you weren't facilitate, you had to pick spots.
And also the mid range game right? Obviously see it in spurts.
Coming back now, obviously, the heat there when they seems that appreciate the mid range game.
But in today's game is, you know, even Carlisle.
You know, the Rockets of practices three point shot or drive to the basket.
So these guys are doing the moves to try to create that space separation.
But back in the day, guys will be like, drive right to the elbow it Dr E.
I see the top of the key. Get the pick.
I don't see the pick.
All right, get in my spot and shoot the ball.
I mean, it's like I agree with you that look, you know, I will never say that these guys can't do it right.
So I guess maybe it's just a transfer of, like focus with regards to the skill, right? What? The game council, what these coaches count for or count or one.
That's what's gonna show if you want 13 point is they're gonna two more three pointers, right? If they want more driving to the basket, What more work around the basket going to see it? But you know, I and today's is this point.
You know Kevin McHale.
Zoology wants that stuff.
You know, I just I don't know, man.
It's just it's just telling me because all those guys said in college a lot longer, right, And these kids make your money, do it.
Do whatever you need to do to help your family's, uh, you know, smart decisions and, you know you feel comfortable.
But, you know, I just feel like when we talk about, I think there's certain skills.
I think those guys back then because they went to college because he took coaching in.
Now I'm still make a lot less, but because they're doing those things, I feel like their skills were Some of their softer skills were more or technical skills or more developed.
I think, Uh oh, now it's faras basketball like you.
I think they had a much higher basketball like e like today, players rely on the athleticism and their one on one abilities.
Back then, there was way more basketball like you.
You know, What is the weakness of my defender, or what is the weakness of the person that I'm defending? You know, how can I, um, you know, how could I utilize the weakness off my my teammates defender to get to even get a shot for myself or create a shot for my teammates? So I think the basketball I Q back then was way higher than it is today.
Take place for athleticism way too much today and just two days.
Hey said guards had no foot work.
It was always streamline.
Streamline a week.
That's a terrible Miss Nolan.
I mean, if you look at some of the top guards Isaiah Thomas, I mean, watch his career highlights and see how you would keep his dribble and catch people.
All right? I mean, look what he did to the Lakers, even though they lost that game on.
What was it like a sprained ankle? Yeah.
I mean, you guys like Rod Strickland.
He's Andre Miller, who was not fast, not the quickest, probably the smartest guys But he always found a way to get a foot ahead of you.
So it wasn't just straight line.
Oh, yes, we just a bunch of Avery Johnson's just driving and pass up to Sean Elliott.
Or, you know, David Robinson.
And he's just like, you know, I got my two assistants.
Come on, guys, let's let's not marginalize these guys of yesteryear because today's game is a lot more explosive.
Like I give these guys credit.
I like I like some of the I like the fact that they're allowed to explore the games, But the only thing I want them to take more coaching in because I'm tired of seeing what Russell Westbrook.
You know what? Maybe Todd is this guy.
And then when it comes to crunch time, he's making stupid decisions, you know? I mean, Andi, just 23 articles point.
So I know guys every you know, it is what it is.
I think that Stephen A.
Smith does have a good point.
You know, people say it's old man hating whatever, but I think he does have a point when it comes to LeBron James.
If LeBron James didn't have so many acolytes in the media.
You know, I think people's minds would be said a lot differently because I saw a lot of people on social media.
What's that? Jordan do***entary came out.
A lot of young people are saying LeBron LeBron about like, Oh, my gosh, I never knew about this.
And all the old heads. Just like, Yep.
You were trying to tell you guys, but you guys don't wanna listen Now, I had some interesting stuff to other articles.
One. Your boy, Charles Barkley.
Hey, called your your your friend? I'm joking about it.
I know you don't give a **** about Katie, but he called your boy Katie a bus rider.
He said if I could get this the load up properly.
He said, uh, you know, Kevin Durant will remain a bus driver instead of a bus driver until he wins the title with the Nets.
Has the best player now.
Obviously, you know, we naturally don't give a **** about the nets, but, you know, I would love to get your opinion on this, even though I have a slightly different opinion from what I expect you to say.
So So Barkley said he'll never be a bus ride.
He'll never be a bus.
He's he'll always be a bus rider.
Never be the bus driver until he was gone with the Nets until he wins one with the Nets.
Honestly, I don't even think he's gonna be a bus driver if he wins one with the Nets.
I think even with the Nets, I think he followed carry Urban, as as is evident even back when even just a couple of weeks ago, when they had the podcast and Kyrie Irving is talking about, you know, we don't have a coach, you know, or whatever he was talking about.
You know, we got multiple coaches or anyone could coach on any night on K B is agreeing with them, like Come on, you know what I'm saying? No, I think KD is never gonna be the bus driving.
I agree with that.
1000% I think Katie, he's just lost in the sauce now.
It will be too late for him to go and try to build on. I will say Okay.
See, You know he was hoping to carry that team.
Um and that's where he could have been the bus driver and more obviously So the quote, I believe I don't know if it's real or not, But it seems like Israel.
Where there was talk from Kobe, say that Kobe told West Burger asked him why you you should be the, you know, NBA scoring champ.
Not Katie on that.
Could have went into the psyche of Westbrook.
I don't know, but, you know, he definitely Katie definitely should have been a bus driver.
I think he should have made it work.
I think he should have made known that.
Hey, we need, you know, a team where we're passing facility and got so much **** talent.
There's no reason why we shouldn't be in the Western Conference finals or in the finals again at the 2012.
, yeah, I greet you.
But I'll say this about Barkley.
This is what I like about Barkley and a lot of people in the media.
They like doing this.
These guys who for some reason, the media, they attract the guy.
And I think I know why.
Because all these guys, they waste their money, they become broke and I needed a job despite making millions.
But a lot of times in the media, you find these guys who the worst character guys in the N B A.
Or NFL, whatever it is, and they end up trying to be the moral compass on TV.
How they should is like Barkley.
You threw a guy through a glass like dogs ready? Must one of the greatest wide receivers dogs.
You had hissy fits.
You got traded from the Raiders despite still being your physical prime Because you're a head case, you know? I mean, it is like they love coming on and pontificate.
Thes guys, You should, you know, do this and that.
And then stop, Stop, stop.
Now, granted, when you're in Philly, they did not have a lot of help in your final years that you did.
But you went to you forced your way out to the sons to go play with a better team.
That team on the Sun's Duma's Kevin Johnson.
You had players on that team.
You ran to the Rockets to go and play with Pippen and a large one.
Remember? I believe it was pimping before you came.
I was in Jordan.
Who called you that? You could have been one of the best players in league.
But you're called like fat or like you, just the laziest whatever.
And it's like, Come on, Charles Barkley. Let's be honest.
You're riding around on coat.
You're riding around on hotels just as much as I said. Just much, Katie.
But you're right around coattails to try to win one and sneak one in.
So let's not act like you suffered on the Philly, the Philadelphia six years, and you will your way too easy like you.
You force your way out like e.
I mean, he went to Phoenix when he went to Houston.
He was pretty much, you know, on the downside of his career, right? He was pretty much 98.
Hey, was Houston because Houston had already won two championships, I believe, right.
You know, they were They were trying thio, you know, making another one.
You know, before six.
The year after they want to chase Barkley E a.
Well, what was he How was he? 90.
Seriously, Charles Barkley.
Let me see. Let me see your stats.
Let me see a staff before you went to the Rockets.
So for two months in Houston, he waas.
He was 33 96 97 33 year before he in Phoenix.
He averaged 23 points off of off 50% shooting.
Goes of Phoenix.
No, you were still in is you could say he's still in his prime ish, you know? I'm saying so.
I don't know about in Houston.
Was he in his prime in Phoenix? He was definitely in his prime.
I mean, your last year in Phoenix, you're putting up 23.
2 points off 11.
6 rebounds, 50 to 50% from the field.
That's that. That's prime me.
I mean, look, he retired in 2000, so if he went in 96 you know, he played in the league for, like, four more years.
He was He was honest.
I think he was on his last leg out.
I'm sorry, Control is this last legs because he's getting older because getting fat and lazy, he could have been both way.
Oh, look, he Charles Barkley, in his career, has never put less than 14 points a game, and he's never averaged less than 57.
7% from the field, which is amazing.
Obviously, he was around the basket a lot on he's never averaged.
Besides just rookie year, he's never averaged less than 10 rebounds a game.
Even in his final year with Houston.
5 points, 10 points, five rebounds.
And he did that off well, played 20 games.
So I guess he was his fatness.
He just e hey, was he was He was on the way out Now he was supposed to get traded to somebody, but I forgot who it waas.
So the story before he went to Phoenix, he was actually there was a deal for him to get traded someplace else.
I don't remember where it was now, and he thought that he was going to be traded right, and he went out and he partied the night before he got, he got, he got all the information that the trade was a done deal.
And then whatever the team, whoever the team was backed out.
I heard that story to hold.
I'll find out right? Yep.
He Waas Hey was supposed to be traded.
Oh, no, I think that was no, No.
In 92 to Philadelphia Sixes, Blah traded to Phoenix.
Thing is not a bad place.
And then he said, uh, six is made trade bloc, I think.
I think that was when he was on the Sixers and you're supposed to be traded.
It was supposed to be traded to the Lakers.
The Lakers from the Sixers, right from the Sixers to the Lakers in 1992 is gonna be traded from the sixth to the Lakers.
Hey went out and got drunk and then you went out and got party and got drunk and all this stuff.
And then the train fell through and he had to go play the game drunk for the next day drunk.
And this would be the same Barkley to sit here if a player said, I don't want to get drafted by a soldier, so he would be the same one to be this hard nose or it's like dogs.
Man on and talk about the human, the greatest players, um, of all time.
But bro, in terms of like the fact you sit there and criticized Draymond Green.
When you do a dude through the window like dogs, you are.
You were in debt in Vegas for, like, hundreds of $1000.
And then when you got the job, a team to you like, yeah, I'm still gambling is like dogs.
Look, do whatever you want.
Don't try to judge anybody else.
I mean, but I'll give him this.
Look, Kevin, Erin, you know, you know, just one thing When you look at when you look at, you know, looking at the the Phoenix Suns, I mean, they didn't have a star studded roster.
It wouldn't start. So the roster.
But it had, You know, Danny Ainge, Charles Barkley.
Uh, Tom Chambers, which do most Kevin Johnson Bridge do was nice that year.
He was good for two years before you fell off because you know, drugs and stuff like that.
He was he Richard doers who got compared to.
He was like he was like, a who was like a up and coming to talk about.
But like Kevin Johnson when Barkley went there, you know you averaged 16 points one season.
He averaged 20 points, nine assists you know, kind of.
I mean, Kevin Johnson was obviously a star.
I don't know who else.
I mean, I guess you could say Dan Marley, I'm sorry.
Mommy was kind of just really a shoot.
I mean, the most That then Molly ever averaged in his career was 17 points a game.
And he did that the season before. Buck.
We got there all the season. He was there.
You have a 16.9.
I mean, they had a T and he was 83.
It was like like going to the Warriors.
It was, That's why I said is not the same.
It's not even close to the same on and a disease point out.
And I'm sorry for laughing.
I'm just the idea that somebody would do this.
He said that you're talking about throwing people through a window, like is the worst thing.
Don't forget, he spat on a little girl.
I mean, Charles Barkley, man, I'm just laughing at the audacity.
I'm not laughing at this is like, but you know why people who you know, people warm up to Charles Barkley, I guess because he's just blatantly honest.
He okay? That's it.
What I'm saying if if you ask him why you spat spit on the girl will probably say, Look, I had a little boy in summer camp one time, right? And he peed on another kid.
Now, this kid was like, five years old, But this was so blatantly honest when he asked him why he did it.
He said, because he's ugly.
I mean, it was so funny.
Obviously, the kid had to get in trouble, right? You know, he was a little He was a foster kid, but he was like, because he's ugly.
I mean, everything he said there was blatantly honest and you couldn't help but love the kid.
You couldn't help but the level it's just ridiculous.
That's Charles Barkley.
And that might be the next president.
You know, you know, saying so.
I'm sorry for the kid who got peed on, man.
Hopefully you turned out Thio get all the girls now, man, that is wow.
Yeah, I mean, but you couldn't help, but they love the kid.
He was He was, like, six years old, cute little kid, but he just But he was blatantly honest about everything that he did.
He wasn't gonna lie to you If you asked him if he did something wrong or somebody told on him, uh, he wasn't going to say no.
I didn't do that here and tell you.
Yes, I did it. And here's why.
At six years old, what I'm saying What people like Barkley, though, right? Right? And Barkley And one that do appreciate.
He said, Look, I'm not a role model, and I think that's a tone.
And I mean, he probably wants a lot of endor*****t dollars, But hey, you know is one thing to that.
Everybody knows who you are versus you get lifted up because people think you're one way and hey said it.
He said it then, but he's changed his tone now.
Oh, yeah, I e also e you know, he didn't lose endor*****ts because we had old ****e endor*****t with anything, right? Yes, I remember those him Brian had the commercial.
Alright, Remember those? They had the classroom e Chris e didn't lose any endor*****ts for that.
He got endorsed.
I'm sorry. Sorry.
Not losing potential potential like hey, got lost some potential endor*****t.
Hey, he ran for governor of Alabama too, didn't he? He did. Wow.
Yeah, Yeah, he was e don't know if he ran for maybe he said he was going to run for E.
I can't even e hey was trying to jump into politics for a minute.
Oh, I guess I'll be a little Barkley.
But our last article And of course, you probably told whose mark to join this.
Because whose mark is I'll give? I'll give whose mark about five seconds to prepare himself because we know what was gonna happen.
One right to 345 So who's Mark? Please bear with us.
So, unfortunately, and because I don't wish this on anybody, unfortunately, whose Mark's favorite athlete of all time, uh, Christophe Zynga's undergoes surgery to repair the meniscus tear and the maps came out and they issued a statement talking about it.
He said the Dallas marriage announced that KP Anyone serve you address a lateral meniscus tear.
Uh, of course, is injury.
This articles like Messing address the lateral meniscus injury of his right knee.
Prison yourself with the injury in Game one of the Mavericks opening round series against the L.
A Lakers on August 17 posing Israel Rehab Million.
There's no timetable set for his return.
Um, and so is that the other need? I'm assuming other need.
That's the other need. Wow.
So one tor meniscus on the other.
So, you know, we talked about this Onda again.
You know, this is why I know Mark is gonna come next mess up.
This is why I also say KP also puts himself out of New York because whether you like physical and Steve knows whatever, right, they're gonna have doctors and specialists who are probably advisor by.
Hey, this guy has a k p.
Not just because of his talent is also because his body's tight and the height It's weird.
He's a he moves Jenkin.
He doesn't move like he has stopped joints like a Yannis is what 6 11 Yanis moves like a He moves like a forward like he looks like Yeah, KP and again when I'm sorry.
When what's the name went out.
Their physical went out there, you know, physical.
And I think that the Knicks try and say, Hey, let's take your time.
Let's not try to rush you into anything right.
KP then went out and put that picture of him running on the track that went against what the Knicks put out, which was like, Hey, we're trying to slowly bring you along.
Now, let's be honest, say what you want about the Knicks, whatever.
But when they're trying to slowly bring you along versus force, you to go out there and maybe drop the trade value be like, Hey, we don't give a **** because, you know, you know that from the embassy where Grant Hill, You know, he talks about it when they were forced them with the ankle injury that ruin his career.
A bunch of guys.
That way we don't give a ****, you know, go out and play.
Be strong, doorless crap.
They were trying to slowly bring KP packed back.
Now, when he went to the Mavericks and maths, I felt they rushed it.
They were like, we're gonna make this guy I work with, have a plan in place to make these guys to huge international stars.
Not to say they would have been there on their own healthy whatever, but they definitely rushed it And look what happened.
I think that you put what happened? Uh, they're broke.
Tolbert's knees. Because one me or you got injured.
Another leg where you're trying to favor one leg, you put extra pressure.
And now you into the other one.
Would you want to play off here? But I think that they should have had a better plan in place.
There's a lot more patient build out the team, not trying to win the championship this first year because you have seen some of the pieces.
And I think the Mavericks helped to destroyed KP.
And I don't think KP will ever be the same spot up shooter. Maybe.
But what? We should work.
Yeah, I don't think so either.
I don't think so either.
Um, I don't even know what to say about it with KP.
You know, I feel I feel bad for him as far as injuries are concerned.
E don't hate the guy.
I like to see the guy to be healthy and playing to his potential, but I don't think it's never gonna happen.
No, you know, it is never gonna happen it right? You know, he played maybe, you know, I mean, from the amount of time that he was out.
I guess you could assume that, you know, his his, um, you know, his knee was healthy, but it happens.
If you hurt with one need, then you're gonna put more pressure on the other needs.
Same thing with your ankles.
You heard on one ankle.
You put a little bit more pressure on the other ankle.
Um, and it could very well be what happened.
Or because it could just be that he's just always gonna be injury prone.
He could come back 100%.
And he's just always gonna be injury prone because, you know, he's 7 ft trying to put those type of, you know, trying to trying to put that he's putting that kind of pressure on his knees and those type of things.
So I was gonna happen.
Whose margins? Look at these.
There's dumped in the building.
Who now look at these two way.
Think about why would we Why would I want First of all, what? I want KP to be healthy because when friends tried to dump with him last year and we beat them twice at their home and at home, and I went to the one where they came to the garden.
That was one of best games I went to and you were there in your marriage jersey, by the way.
You don't know what you say, Mark.
We don't want anything Babich a people, the narrative that he didn't help to put yourself out as well.
I think it's far fetched that make it seem like he was this innocently because I remember we were talking about this.
There was a plan in place.
The Knicks were trying to bring him back slowly and they will basically say, Hey, we're gonna try to push got into next year and you do that with your prize player You make sure that his knee is 100 and 50% healthy.
Oh, you feel healthy to run because again a C L tears, you can walk on your face on a 20 c o it.
You can move around into an A C o and you know these players again. Big payday.
All that stuff they wanna ask.
Oh, yeah, I'm good, blah, blah and they'll effort.
I know there's a dude, I was playing ball with that Brooklyn Brooklyn Bridge Park, he said.
He tore his a c.
L was supposed to be getting surgery and he was dunking with this young king.
I mean, like, 18 or whatever.
He's healthy to do it, But you might.
You need more so we don't.
I don't wish anything bad on KP, but again, KP.
Just as you said that he had his his brother Bobby, his brother.
But it should have been a better adviser and said, Hey, I'm looking out for your safety because there's a bunch of guys in the NBA again Grant Hill.
We just saw a Penny Hardaway guys that they pushed and said, Hey, play, play, play They burn out and everyone's calling him a bum and everybody gets about him and all.
KP has to go and play in Latvia because no, and the NBA, God forbid that happens.
But, hey, I'm just saying, I'm just saying we saw Derrick Rose and Derrick Rose is basically breaking down because he felt the team that he had a soul tied to in Chicago let him down by let him go after he had those two injured knee injuries after he was a star 2011 M V p.
And a team that he brought to the playoffs.
I mean, it was LeBron James, So I'm just saying, I look out for these guys longevity.
I want to see these guys play.
I want to see KP do well, a separate, replacing the Knicks.
So I think that you know he's overrated.
Yes, but I don't wish injury on.
I wish injury on not even a LeBron James.
I don't wish injury on that.
Nobody wants to do that.
But, you know, Phil Jackson should have went ahead and traded them now.
Now I was just so in the great word off my favorite movie, The Dark Knight at the end.
Which again, guys going YouTube is one of the greatest endings of is one of great.
It was all the time, you know, it says.
Of course, Commissioner Gordon says to Batman as he's running away and talking to his son makes me almost terror every time.
He says he's a hero, Gotham deserves, but not the one it needs right now.
Is that what you put on Phil Jackson for making for pushing that trade to get a guy like KP out out of the Knicks, where now we have their draft picks, which may not never be high.
But if we drive some under, if we dropped the next Yokich, remember your draft in the second round if he dropped the next Pascal Sciacchetano.
People coming for the players, but he's still a good player.
If we draft that, guys able to take the next to the next level late, and it's because of one, the maverick space and we get to the playoffs market and we get to the Eastern Conference finals.
You all remember how it was when the Knicks played the Pacers.
I was there for Game three.
I still remember to this day Pablo Prigioni came in and hit two threes and everybody went crazy and the Knicks won that game.
Now you went to go get the story next two games.
But if we get to that level, do you call Phil Jackson a tragic or unsung hero? Forget those two marriage if they pan out two big time.
That wasn't feeling.
That was Steve Mills.
I see. I'm sorry, Females.
E Phil Jackson in the sense that Phil Jackson was the one who pushed it.
He was like this Oracle that saw the path.
He saw it. I mean, he saw it.
Listen before, if you remember when KP was drafted, right? The one thing that Phil Jackson said and this is after he was drafted mhm, right? He said he worries about him being like Shawn Bradley.
He talked about him not having a strong core, worried about the lower half of his body, consistently being injured because he doesn't have a strong enough court.
And everyone was like, you know, bugging out.
Like why they drafted God, Why do you draft a guy that they consider is Shawn Bradley? That ended up right? He came in good.
Everyone thought Phil Jackson was crazy.
He wanted, traded him for he want, wanted to trade him to Boston, wanted to trade him for Devin Booker.
So Mark is constantly ruling over a trader, Devin Booker, who markets constantly Julen, over where you at now? Why don't you give him that credit that he sort of foresight Now, Devin Booker improve his field goal percentage from a 42 to 48%.
Whatever it was.
This guy's looking like an offensive.
He's looking like that next guy and I'm 40.
I mean, they they did in the bubble.
They went in the room, almost got there.
And now you're going to team next year.
You probably probably get a better point.
You could draft the care Lewis to develop behind Ricky Rubio.
A guy could score and possibly develop those facilitation shops.
But, you know, I'm just saying Mark you Hey, hey, I don't wish nothing on KP.
KP had a lot of signs and also this is the same K.
People got tired because he was anemic, he said.
I get tired by that, bro.
First of all, you're telling the enemy that Oh, this through the soft.
I remember the game where they will be in the Cavaliers and LeBron James switched on defense on him, and KP couldn't post up anymore.
So I'm just saying, Look, KP was a flat.
Y'all give some of y'all Knick fans give KP more love.
Then you do Carmelo in terms of how much you love it.
And I my big I know people say, Oh, I like Carmelo Anthony.
But Carmelo Anthony did more for the Knicks and KP did.
And some of you you, Max Kellerman.
You know, you guys wanna keep is one the greatest talents.
He has great hat.
First half season seasons fades away.
So I don't know.
I just need to top top off this show with some KP ****ysis, but definitely it's almost nine o'clock.
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I don't know who the Giants play this weekend.
We play cowboy cowboy thing this weekend.
I'm gonna be there.
Things are chance.
This is our chance that we can win.
We could get right back in the playoff race.
And that's how the NFC East thing get right back in the playoff race.
But one win to this weekend, we need it.
I don't know if we can get it.
I don't know if we can get it.
That's crazy, man.
When you look at it, it's crazy.
When you got the NFC East right now, fresh, Philadelphia is one and to whom they got one time, Uh, Washington is one and three.
Dallas is one and three.
The Giants are Oh, and four way Dallas.
Potentially way could get if we beat Dallas and Washington loses with Philadelphia because they had to tie on their record.
Couldn't surpass them.
But we could jump right into second place.
And that's why I saw article saying that they're considering seeding the teams based off 1% because this is pathetic.
The Giants get toe, possibly go to a place and mind you, I thought Dana Jones.
I thought the Giants played the Rams decently last week opposite Interception, and Quranic has got a lot of room and they were coming outside.
But you know, the Giants could make a run out.
You have Guy's hurt himself, but I just don't want to hear trash talk from Giants.
Fans like the Jets have it way worse.
The Giants actually might be in one or two years, even with David Jones.
I think you guys might be good, so I don't need you guys to touch Trevor Lawrence.
Keep drafting guy.
Well, I mean, that's that's That's the fault of the Jets.
That's their fault.
It is the fault.
I'm just trying.
I'm just trying to sue the pain away, man.
The The Jets play the card news this weekend.
E don't care what nobody says.
Look, bro, I know the Cardinals that Look, if he we struggle against guys who run guys running the edge.
Quarterbacks run quarterbacks in a row.
Quarterbacks actually quarterbacks.
And they got Fitzgerald, who I think is one of greatest wide receivers of all time.
They got DeAndre Hopkins.
They got Isabella.
They got the kid of Kirk Christian.
They and they got Kenyon Drake.
They're going to destroy.
I'm just gonna sit back and just have fun.
I might I might Coverage if I wanna hurt.
Like, if I feel like I just want some, like, massacres in my life.
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