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When you woke up this morning, what else? When you started Train Young men.
Your tryout started when you took your first breath.
Welcome to another episode of a different basketball podcast.
My name is Jordan Mount.
Today I'm joined by Green Sports Management CEO Daniel Green.
Daniel Man, welcome to the show.
Thanks for having me excited to be on every episode.
I feel like I have somebody that tops my beard and it's starting to make me mad a little bit.
Started making Imagine a little bit.
I want to take you to grow That beard out started during quarantine.
So watch 13th was kind of the date that everything pretty much shut down in my industry so wrapped up ever since I'm gonna have to really step my game up.
As soon as you came on, I saw the beard and I immediately got upset.
It's tough stuff.
So a little a little background on.
You know, it's not every day we get to have a Colgate grad on this show.
Um, you know, for for the listeners that don't know your cousin story in green.
Your Uncle Sidney Green.
Um you know, kind of talk about those guys and what that means to you and definitely Colgate as well.
Okay, Yeah, I'll start with Colgate.
So, uh, just coming out of high school, you know, I was, you know, blessed and fortunate to be, you know, a pretty good student athlete and had the opportunity thio get an opportunity to play a Kobe University, which is a small division one, liberal arts school, upstate New York.
Um, you know, I have some great experiences there, you know, playing collegiate basketball.
And then, you know, after that, you know, when directly into the sports industry.
And, you know, 14 years later I have my own, you know, sports agency and license with both the MBA and fever.
And I'm sure we'll probably get into kind of my journey from Colgate.
But, you know, Colgate means a lot to me.
You know, we actually represent a few guys that played at that played for Colgate University, and, you know, they're doing some great things with their professional career.
So to be able to pay it forward to, you know, my alma mater and the from the standpoint of allowing those guys and assisting those guys in their process and your colleagues, your careers, you know, means the world to me because I was once in their situation wasn't fortunate enough to play professional basketball, you know? But, you know, if I'm able, Thio provide a platform to a system Thio play at the highest level that they can, that that that that means a lot and they've had some great success the last two years under coach Galangal wasn't fortunate enough to play for coach angle, but shout out to him and everything that he's done with that program.
Um, you know, always rooting for those guys to kind of get to your next question in regard to historian on also, my Uncle Sydney Taurean Green, for those that don't know is uh, not only my partner in the agency, but also the head of our player development, uh, Koreans background.
He's a two time national champion, played for the University of Florida.
Uh, you know, helping them win back to back championships on that same team as Joachim Noah Al Horford, Corey Brewer on.
Yeah, he had a great college career, was fortunate enough to be drafted into the NBA as a second round.
I believe 54th pick in the old seven draft, played in the NBA for three years, played in a D League, you know, for about a year or so And then, you know, over the past nine years, he's, uh you had a tremendous professional basketball career playing and, you know, all of the biggest markets in Europe everywhere from Spain, Greece, Italy, France, Turkey.
Um, in this year we were fortunate enough.
Thio assist him and signing his his what may be his last professional contract in Poland.
So not only to see my business partner and also you had of our player development.
But he's also a client, you know, mine, way represented as well and have, you know, assisted in guiding his career for the past few years.
And, you know, it means the world to me to be, you know, working arm in arm with, you know, not only my cousin, but you know, he's more like a brother to me, being that we came up in the ranks together from a young age, you know, playing the game that we love and you know, again to kind of, you know, go back to who we are as an agency.
You know, Green Sports Management is a family owned agency.
So that takes me into kind of my Uncle Sydney, who kind of is the at the forefront of the green family name from a basketball perspective being that, you know, he's instill principles of honesty and integrity and to everything that we dio, you know, as a family, um, and also, you know, as an agency.
So we were the name proudly, uh, Sydney is Tore Ian's dad, my uncle, and just a little bit about his background.
He was the first round fifth pick of the 1985 draft and played in the NBA for 10 years.
I played for teams such as the Bulls, the Knicks, Detroit Piston San Antonio Spurs.
On day after he finished up playing, uh, professional basketball, he went into the coaching ranks coaching for Southampton, which was a Division two school coach as an assistant at Indiana and actually lead F A U, which is right in my backyard Florida Atlantic University.
He led them to their first and TW appearance, a za coach He's also had some front office experience working with the Chicago Bulls.
Jerry Reinsdorf was a guy whose owner of the Bulls, who was the guy that actually, you know, drafted Sydney and you know, was was was a part of his beginning.
You know, back in, you know, 84.
When he was drafted to the Bulls, they remained lifelong friends and, you know, some odd years later, he offered Sydney the opportunity toe not only be a part of their player development staff with the Chicago Bulls, but he's also community relations ambassador for that organization as well.
So that's a little bit about me, my background.
Taurean, who's my business partner? As I mentioned, my uncle Sydney was kind of paved the way from a sports perspective, and you know that that's who we are.
No, I think that's great.
I I do have one question.
You know, you got you and Tory in about the same age.
Eso I'm curious.
You know, you guys obviously played one on one growing up, you know? What's that record like, Are you Are you up? Is he up? You know, whatever those battles, like in the backyard of family family cookouts.
Yeah, if I'm being honest, you know, I'm 29 no against Tory.
Uh, a different story shot, Uh, he's watching or listening, but no Koreans.
You know, uh, we actually, I would say, probably weren't the best players in our family.
To be honest with you, you know, we had some cousins that kind of gave us a little bit of a beaten growing up.
And a lot of the things that we were able to implement in our games, you know, came from those guys.
You know, uh, everyone from Bernard Green who play that, you know, he had the chance to play the Texas A and M.
Our other older cousin, Davon Grady, played at UCF.
Eso, that's why is a long standing history and tradition in our family.
So, you know, we took a lot of, you know, tools not only from those guys, but also from our uncle.
And, you know, being me being from Brooklyn, New York City being from Brooklyn, New York, and, uh, those guys as well being from Brooklyn, you know, way, really, way really were able to learn the game, you know, a different way. And you know Taurean.
He he was he wasn't from this the same neighborhood as us.
But, you know, he still has the same, you know, swagger and and morals and principles and, you know, hard nose way that he plays.
And you could see that from the way he plays that he carries that Brooklyn swagger even though he's not from there.
So I just wanted to kind of share that, but yeah, if you wanna go.
What that record is, uh, 29 million.
I'm sticking to it.
Can't be that that's That's the That's the family jewels right there, man.
You know, I really do love New Yorkers.
I think I think it's, uh, some of my best friends are from New York, and you guys all have this this, uh, this mantra about you where you take care of your own.
I think that's a that's absolutely incredible.
Um, you know, just to kind of hop right in, but your resume is is Really I was looking you up earlier, and, um, you know, last week and you know you're from Brooklyn, you went to Colgate, but then you worked for for Rose professional sports right out of college.
Um, you know, and then you.
Then you end up working with the Miami Heat.
You know, now you are, you know, are where you are.
I'm probably missing a few gaps there, but But I want to know, you know, what's been your favorite part of the journey so far? Uh, in this, uh, this supports journey, that you've been taken, um, great questions.
So, yeah, just in terms off, you know, it's been it's definitely been a ride. It's been enjoyable.
You know, there's been a lot of highs, a lot of lows, but, you know, definitely blessed to learn from all of those experiences that I had, uh, in my career trajectory to get to where I am.
I think every, you know, stop in a situation that I've been in has prepared me for the role that I'm in now because I've seen the game in the industry on all levels, you know, kind of what you alluded to to start, You know, once I finished up at Colgate, had a tremendous opportunity to work for Rose professional management, which a lot of people don't know was the first group to be actually be acquired by CIA, and that kind of kicked started.
CIA is, uh, sports division in basketball division and as everyone else, CIA is one of the largest agencies. Today.
I had an opportunity to work for Andre Buck, who worked with Leon Rose.
Um, hence the name Rose Professional Management.
And Leon is now obviously, the president of New York Knicks have to be in, you know, one of the top agencies in the industry for a number of years.
So got some really high level experience, you know, working with, you know, Andre, who was working with me on at that time, used that experience, Thio leverage and had the opportunity to work with the first round ninth pick of those seven draft.
That player being joking, no, worked with him very closely.
You know, throughout his career for about five years, and that that's an opportunity to work with, You know, the Miami Heat, where I was fortunate enough to win an NBA championship with the organization on the business operations staff.
And you know, shortly after that had an opportunity to go back to my hometown team, which was the Brooklyn Nets and you know, that was also, you know, a great experiences.
Well, being that, you know, being from Brooklyn, working for your hometown, you know, was was was kind of a surreal type of type of feeling.
You know, I remember that same exact location where the Barkley Centers is located was nothing but just abandoned train tracks, you know, growing up and to see, you know, the Barclay Center there, right in the middle of Brooklyn, looking like a spaceship like that.
That was, you know, gave me chills every time I walked into that building so that that was actually the, you know, on that Flatbush and Atlantic Avenue location grew up playing for a U program called Brooklyn Use A And oddly enough, that was our meeting point where we always met every day to, you know, go to our, you know, games in the summertime when we had, you know, a you tournaments, you know, around the city of New York.
So just kind of the connections and the parallels that were there, you know, it was always a surreal feeling, you know, walking into that building and working with the nets on.
And then shortly after working with the Nets, you know, all the while had a sports management consulting agency that, you know, I wasn't really able to focus on full time because there was just, uh you know, not enough time having full time positions with both the heat and the nets.
But I started to the Coast Consulting Agency called Green Sports Management Consulting.
You know, back when I was working with Joe Camel toe, you know, start my career and kind of put it on the backburner when I worked with these teams.
But once I left the nets, um, you know, got officially licensed with the MBA, officially licensed with Veba and transition, that consulting agency to a full, full service sports agency.
And, uh, you know, I'm blessed today to say that we represent, you know, 95 players that have played, you know, across, you know, pretty much every continent on over 18 different countries.
Andi also have had, you know, M b a G league and also international experience on their resume.
So, um, and we've been able to grow our staff not only from, you know, maybe it has a soul age inventory and being a partner and head of player development.
But we also have four other licensed agents on staff to that are based out of New York to that are based down here in South Florida.
Um, Nao Ball done tremendous jobs.
And, you know, again, just say I don't think I would be where I am today.
If it wasn't for the experience of seeing the way Ah, front office operates, you know, with the Miami Heat.
And you know that he culture that they talked about Israel and it stuck with me to this day in terms of the way that I formally my business and the morals and principles that you know that that we abide by as a company.
Um And then also, you know, as I mentioned before the Brooklyn, that seemed kind of how that front office operated as well.
Um, And then also having the experience of working day to day, you know, with a lottery pick first round, you know, you know, stellar.
You know, superstar athlete and joking.
No, it during his during his career.
You know, not many agents I could say have that experience where they've, you know, work that closely with an athlete, you know, from a business management perspective, have front office experience and also learned from some of the best in the in the industry, you know, with Leon Rose.
And, you know, Andre Buck at the forefront of of the first agency that that I was fortunate enough thio to work with.
You know, I think it's cool for you that that you have the experience of Ah, um, as a player.
Uh, then you have the experience of working for an agency.
Then you have the experience of being under, you know, pretty much three great cultures, maybe four.
Um, you know, with the Miami heat, Um, you know, Colgate, um, I would even say, you know, your high school team had to have an effect on you because you were high school teammates with Joakim Noah.
Is that correct? That is correct.
That is correct.
Uh, great program at Poly Prep in Brooklyn.
Coach Bill McNally, you know, ran a great program out there.
You know, I was fortunate fto not only play with Joakim Noah, you know, he was a sop****re when I was a senior, but also playing with some other great players that went on to play, you know, one of my best friends and, you know, teammates from Poly Prep and also Colgate, you know.
So Keith Williams, he played at Colgate with me as well.
So you played Division One.
We also had Andre Logan for another great player.
Went on to play at Princeton, and then we had a lot of other guys that went on to play, you know, at some some pretty good D three programs on another, gentlemen that played at ST John.
So coming from Poly Prep, you know, that was also a great program that we were able to build.
I was fortunate to win the state championship as a sop****re, you know, at that school.
And, you know, you know, my senior year it was kind of my show and, you know, joking No.
Was a part of that ride and shout out to Joe if he's listening as well.
Um, you know, I was thankful to be able to play with him, but, you know, he'll tell you that.
You know, uh, if you look at the clippings, you know, the numbers don't lie.
I e with were on that team, so I always give him crap about it.
And he always says that I didn't pass enough, but we were winning.
So he has to take his role.
You know, sometimes you just gotta hop in the backpack and enjoy the ride.
You know, that's that's what you know. That's the teller. Come on.
You feel like getting back in the back? That's good.
Uh, you know, how does how does your playing career? Um, you know, you've played Obviously, that was curious.
You know, how does that help you in your role as an Asian? Because I just think for me you can You can articulate to these guys like, Hey, this is this is what works.
This is where your value is eso, you know, from, ah, pure, you know, your business and player.
But your player career.
How has that helped you in your in your agency career? I think, um, more so, from standpoint, of understanding, the psychology of an athlete, the psychology of an athlete.
And also, um, you know, just the relatability factor because, you know, I've been in their shoes and I understand, you know, the pros and cons off, you know, in the grind of being a professional athlete, you know? So I think that's helped me tremendously, Um, in communication with those guys as well, being able to over communicate with them and explain to them the business out of it.
I don't just see them as an athlete.
I see them, you know, as a professional.
So you know what I try to do is, you know, not only educate them on, you know, their career and what they where they could potentially be playing and things of that nature, but also try to educate them on the business of sports.
So I think that piece just being a former athlete, you know, I never want to leave our clients in the dark in regard toe kind of what their process may or may not look like.
It's not always something that they want to hear, but at the same time, it's always important that they understand the education behind, you know, in a professional athlete and also the professional sports business on also, thankfully, enoughto have you know business partner who's played the game on on every single level.
I think that's what kind of separates us from a lot of agencies that we have somebody actually on our team and in our front office with Torian, who's played the game on every single level that our players are playing at or aspire to play that you know, that being from the MBA, Geely to the professional level internationally.
So I think that those two things really, really separate us from, you know, as an agency from from from the competition.
No, I think that Zatz incredible.
And I like the way you know, you put that you don't wanna have any athletes in the dark.
And I think a lot of guys, um, you know, I've been working with with somebody recently, and, you know, they're kind of in the dark and a few things, you know, obviously there agents taking care of them.
But, you know, um, you know, I feel like you do a great job of, of, of walking them, you know, along the whole way.
Just giving him a, you know, a lot of information at the same time.
And so I think that's great.
You know, you guys are doing things the right way.
Um, you know, for the people that don't know, you know you guys, when you guys do your you get your players in. I think so.
On Instagram, Where you guys actually you know, you bring it, You do it all from player development to nutrition to, uh, you know, marketing.
You know, tell tell us what if I'm If you're representing May you know what? What do I get from from Green Sports Management? Yeah, so our course, You know, we obviously have a number, of course, a number of services, but are four main course services are contract negotiation.
And that's obviously, you know, getting you the best market value for the player that you are the you know, the resume and skill set that you that you have and what you're referring to the table for.
For for professional sports team outside of contract negotiations, financial management, we don't essentially do the financial management piece in house.
However, you know, if there is a player that you know needs, you know, wealth management advisor and accountant and, you know, insurance professional s someone and so forth.
You know, we have in our network those those folks that can assist, um, with that process, we don't choose the direct you know, advisor, that is going to work with them.
We usually, you know, like to take the approach of saying, Hey, here's three or four guys that we know trust embedded.
You know, Let's get on the phone with them or let's meet in person.
You know, whatever the case may be, you know, in Covert State, you know, that would be, you know, by by Zoom or through Skype.
Um, but yeah, but get with those guys and kind of see, you know who would be the best fit.
You know, for those players from a financial management standpoint, uh, the other services that we do, providing house on the marketing and branding based on my experience, you know, from the front office with the Miami Heat and also with the Brooklyn Nets.
Um, you know, with the Nets, I was part of the global partnerships team where, you know, we were responsible for generating revenue from a marketing partnership standpoint with that with that team, you know, that's kind of in my wheelhouse, in regard to kind of you're creating partnerships.
So we're using the same platform that I had when I was with these professional sports teams.
For example, you see Nike or you see Gatorade Or you see, you know, some of these top brands that are partnered with these MBA franchises.
You know, we take that similar approach and do that on the scale of working with the athletes that we worked with.
So that's kind of a marketing piece that we provide a za core service.
Um, and then the last piece of player development, which we really ramped up.
This, uh, this year S O from a player development standpoint.
You know, we look at making sure that our guys have the tools both in season out of season on, also throughout their predraft and, you know, pre pro career development stage on.
And that's headed up by, you know, Taurean Green, who is my partner and you know he's been He's done a heck of a job with, you know, being able to guide these guys not only from the standpoint of the encore training, but also the mental aspect dimensional approach of what you could potentially expect as a professional athlete.
And, you know, you're getting a firsthand from somebody that's done it and been there before, so I think that's also invaluable.
And then, outside of just the on court training portion, you know, we also, you know, try to provide our guys with the off court regimen of strength and conditioning during the off season.
Um, and then also outside of that, you know, you know, rehab and recovery, which is also essential.
Since you know your body is your temple, your body is how you make money.
So you have to invest in that and try toe assist in that investment process with our players in terms of getting them, you know, toe up.
Most ranks off, taking care of their body and taking care of their game from on court off court.
And also we have a couple of standpoint.
E think that's great.
I think you know the player development side and the marketing side or both up my alley and and everybody kind of has a brand.
Everybody's had a brand, but with social media now and you know how big it's blown up, it's like, you know, everybody's branch and really you know, you could monetize and and and, uh, you know, really show kind of kind of what you represent Um, no, I think that's that's amazing.
What you guys do.
This is a TVO sponsored podcast, so I gotta ask them TVO questions, you know, how did how did you meet? You know, David and Evelyn Magli? How that relationship start? Um, great questions.
How did we meet David? So we do.
Ah, tremendous job of pushing and marketing our athletes.
And, you know, obviously David has been involved with the Canadian League.
Andi also now the TBL.
So he was part of one of our weekly, you know, mailers that go out to commissioners, g M's coaches, teams, Andi He saw the promotion that we were doing with our guys and he thought, you know, these guys were doing it the right way.
And, you know, David, you know, reached out and we had a few guys that had attended his his combines in years past, and I just was inquisitive and wanted to know more about the TBL.
And we hopped on the call, and, um, David said that, you know, he had an initiative that he was thinking about rolling out, which was called TBL reps, which is the agency arm of TBL.
so way flush that out and spoke about that, Um and then just, you know, world being very small Doctor Kenosha Chastain, who was also involved with TBL reps with me.
She was having the same type of conversations with Evelyn Magli.
And so we kind of put two and two together and we all got on a call and we saw that there was definitely synergies in terms of rolling out something that made sense for the TBL from the standpoint of play a representation because there's a lot of talent in the TBL um, that that that don't sometimes don't get the maximum exposure that they need s So it was kind of a win win for us because, you know, they were they were ableto were able to come up with the concept which is called tbl reps, as I mentioned before, which is the agency arm of the TBL.
And, you know, I was named VP of player representation off the T v l.
And you know, kind of what my my duty is is that gives our agency Green sports management across marketing force branding, promotion, um, to be ableto market the 160 players that play in the TBL.
Um, you know, for international jobs beyond the TBL.
So the TBL, you know, wants toe utilize their platform so that guys can go on and showcase themselves for a year or two or three, you know, really kind of as kind of ah, vetting Mark, I'm not vetting, but kind of Ah, I guess you could kind of say, G league to the international market.
And and that's kind of what that development league has done for a lot of guys and, you know, thankfully enough, even with covert, we were able to sign officially two guys that played in the TBL this past year.
One Correy Tate, who was who actually has a tremendous story, which I'll tell you a little bit about later, Um, and also Matt Hart, who was a TBL player who went through the TBL reps program.
And, you know, now he's playing in Ireland.
But just to kind of double back to Cory, um, the reason why, you know, I really started to believe in you know what the TBL was doing.
Um, Corey Tape is a player that played at the D two level.
Put up some tremendous numbers at the D two level when he was playing on and then, you know, late, late in the process, off last season, you know, he was he was without a job and it was around September, October.
Andi came to us and said that, you know, he didn't really have the proper representation in order to get him to where he needed to be.
And he was, you know, afraid that he was going to sit out.
Ah, full season, you know, and not be able to play.
And, as you may know, uh, where people that may know if you have a gap in your resume as professional athlete, you know, it's it's kind of difficult to attain our first job.
So, you know, what we said is, Look, we can't make any guarantees.
We can continue to push and see what's out there in the international market, but there's a great combine coming up for the TBL, and that's gonna be, uh, in December.
You know, if you are fortunate enough to get noticed by a team, you could potentially be drafted into the TBL and thankfully enough, I think he was drafted into the second round played for the tristate admirals from there, had a great season, ended up leading the league in scoring, was named the MVP of the league by Euro basket publication.
And now this year, way were fortunate enough to place him.
And in Iceland, eso really playing professional basketball in Iceland.
We just got his ticket actually from the team, and I think they have him arriving September 6.
So success stories like that is really what the TBL is about.
And, you know, we're fortunate enough to be a part of such a great league.
That's that's doing great things for a lot of players out there.
I had a couple things, a couple things, Um, first.
So Matt Heart and my buddy Paul Jorgensen are are doing these, you know, online training, zoom sessions together.
So I know Matt a little bit.
They both played a George Washington together.
Paul's a good buddy of mine.
We we got a ton.
Um but I do want to say that that Corey so weirdly enough, I was at the same combine.
I was in the room when he got drafted.
Uh, and then, uh, and Then I saw him play like seven times this year.
I think they played like, eight games or something with that.
But I saw every every game and he played.
E was in Tri State.
I was in Paterson, New Jersey, the first game he played, and then, like all this guy's pretty good.
And then I saw him.
I said, I'm a beacon.
If he can keep it up, you know, he'd be pretty solid Then he did it again the next game.
Then he did it in the next game.
Um, you know, I take that back.
I saw him in Albany first, and so you know, I think, you know, especially at a D to level.
You know, guys kind of in a scoff it details.
But there's a lot of Hooper's everywhere in the in the country and, ah, lot of talent and there's there's a lot of really good players everywhere, So I think the I think you hit it on the nail, you know, hit hit the great point where this is a developmental league.
But you know, there's there's Hooper's in this league that can that can play and make some noise overseas.
So, you know, in that regard, you know, I think that's great.
Um, You know, man, I I know. I know.
We're kind of running low on time, So, you know, I I do want to get to the my favorite part of the show.
And that's the speed round.
Okay, You know what the speed round is? I don't know What the speed.
Just be careful, man.
I got some tricky questions in here s o The speed rounds is you got one minute to answer as many questions as possible.
Um, I got him up here.
I got one tough one that I think's gonna throw you so you know that you're ready.
Are you ready? Alright.
What's your favorite place to eat? Miami problems.
Well, favorite part of tbl could be one word. Answer.
What is your favorite pizza in Brooklyn? Whoa! Oh, La Traviata or Montague on Montague Street.
What's your favorite, Jim? You've ever been in? Uh, Mr Token, Miami Heat Arena.
What's your favorite place to visit? Uh, I'm living here.
How many countries have you been to? Oh, how lot I would say over 15.
You know, you're good If you could name one game from college, what would be the best game that you played in this? Who? I didn't get a lot of minutes in college, but one of the best games that I've had the best experiencing was a game against Holy Cross when one of my best friends, Keith Williams, so I mentioned before, dumped over the seven footer and then blew kisses in the crowd and took a lap time.
That was probably the best answer that we received during the speed round.
You got 1234567 But the seventh answer was, That's seven answers the best answer that we've ever gotten.
So that was That was good.
Well, Daniel, man, I really appreciate you coming on the show, thanks to all the listeners today that came on the podcast reminder that the TV oh golf outing in September 16th at nine AM looking forward to seeing everyone there.
Uh, Daniel man is it's not every day we get to have a smart guy like you on the show, but that was that was incredible.
So I appreciate it.
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