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Wow, What exactly doesn't I Don't do it.
I don't do it like a gentleman on a Friday.
You know, this is this has been a long mourning for me already, and I got no time for pleasantries.
But I will, of course, also like a gentleman.
Go ahead and bring down the banner on whatever basis with apparently some fall colors in the background.
I didn't realize that that was the type of pattern we were gonna have here.
But it's We got nets, man, and we welcome.
And, of course, Matt Brooks, as when I were on yesterday talking NBA overall.
But the thing that I don't want to over engage in, which is trade speculation and trade chatter around the Brooklyn Nets right now.
But why not? Why not have some fun? Because you and I said, uh, you know, building building in L A Lakers beater and about like, how do you construct the wrong for that? Make other teams a jump.
If we know baseline, we have Kevin Durant that makes every team adjust.
We know that Kyrie Irving is a really talented guy looking at this landscape.
I'll throw the first name out there for fun.
Z's disgruntled, disgruntled Sacramento King buddy.
Hell, there's apparently apparently gonna field offers out there for that gentleman.
Does that make any? Would that make any sense for you to possibly pulling a guy like that there alongside of a Kyrie Irving in the backcourt? Not for the Nets, No, but I like him for another team.
So I did this a little bit on.
I did it like an ask me anything, type of stream on SportsCastr and then on Twitter a little bit as well.
Uh, I like him for the Sixers.
I think that's a really good match.
If the Lakers want to go that route, I don't know if they would.
Maybe they want to just maintain that defensive pedigree.
I think he'd fit nicely, is kind of like an off the bench spark plug.
The one issue with him is that you're paying him a lot of money to kind of come off the bench, which I don't think it's super attractive for maybe a lot of competitive teams.
But for somebody like the sixties who already have these, like, big giant contracts, that could make a little bit of sense.
Uh, maybe you flip him and and something else for Al Horford or something like that to get him off the books, Um, and then kind of last.
Well, I don't know, because Horford's contracts pretty, they could actually might go Justus long as that's right, and I I've liked him for the for the Celtics for a little while.
I might have even done this on SportsCastr, where I mocked him for Gordon Hayward, who is on an expiring deal.
Maybe they like that.
I felt like they could use a little bit of extra offense.
I I find Buddy Hill to be really underrated now.
Personally, um, can create his own shot can obviously come off the catch and be one of the better, you know, just sort of guys off motion in the entire league.
So I think that we look at a lot of the deficiencies that he has mainly as a playmaker and is a defender, and I do feel like we kind of overvalue that a little bit like we've seen in these playoffs this year that you could hide guys like that.
Miami has been very good at that, so but we'll make and make your choice to right.
If you're interested in Buddy Hell, you're not interested in for defense, and that's okay.
But make a run at him in the plan off.
We're gonna use him for what he is.
Like you say Guy gets a shot, comes off the bench potentially, especially for a championship caliber team.
Little footnote there, man.
Do you like that? Alvin Gentry is getting talked about joining that staff out there under Luke Walton.
That's feels like a nice veteran presence toe have there for Luke to maybe lean on a little bit as he's had.
I'll call it up and down, you know, coaching career to this stage.
Well, well, he's one of the best offensive minds in the game.
I think he's just absolutely fantastic.
They pelicans, even when they were just like, you know, losing and and really under performing in the bubble.
Um, they're sets were just lovely, like I had a lot of fun watching them.
Now their issue is defense and he's never been much of a defensive mind, but I like it a lot.
I mean, Luke Walton had them playing at one of the five slowest paces.
I think I don't know if that maintained, but I'm assuming it did throughout the first couple of months of the season, and that doesn't make any sense of Deer and Fox.
So I'm hoping that you bring in somebody like an Alvin Gentry, and he can really kind of add a little bit of ****e to the way they run their offense.
Yeah, I don't know.
I like, you know, I feel like Gentry was never going to get a fair shake.
Their with the Pelican.
They just, you know, that was all but assumed that something was going to switch there.
So I just like seeing Lanson place.
And possibly the Kings have a backup opportunity if they don't necessarily level Luke Walton is doing.
He's an overqualified assistant coach, which, like you would never be mad at.
Like I'm look I mean, look, the the Nets having overqualified backup point guard like it's always a good thing.
I mean, never, never hurts to have too much talent.
No, we have too much talent.
This is just for the sake of argument.
The New York Knicks have basically said there's not really anyone outside of Barrett.
This is pretty much an open market for any of the roster.
Just out of curiosity.
How do you feel about Julius Randle? How do you know? Not as Julius Randle.
The starter, depended on heavily.
But we even talked about this.
Doug and I around the idea of what I pay big money for him when he was a free agent.
Probably not, but do I like the idea of Julius Randle the supplemental, you know, power forward on your roster? I actually like a fit like that.
You know who I kind of like? I don't know if I like Julius Randle because of the defensive issues, and I just think he's a kind of a ball dominant guy.
I'm looking at Taj Gibson's numbers.
I kind of like Taj Gibson Young.
I've always liked Taj Gibson didn't shoot the ball well from three it all last year, and it just never really developed into that.
Um, I don't mind him personally if you're gonna go for somebody weird, and you're going to try to grab like one of their many power forward centers.
He's the guy that I actually really like off that roster.
I think that he'd be somebody that you get for pretty much.
Nothing might even be able to get him as a buyout guy from that team.
So he's interesting to me. To a degree.
I mean, it's not like a big ***y at or anything like that, But I don't think the Nets need that.
I think they need a couple of vets, and that's pretty much it.
Like you can throw out whoever Mo Harkless, who's also on the Knicks or was on the Knicks.
Um, you know, you can have whatever like a Paul Millsap who I don't know what his market's gonna look like.
Like I don't think they need to make huge giant ads.
They just the Nets just need a couple of vets that make a little bit of sense.
Yeah, and interest.
It's always I always think it's interesting in a come from a couple of facets, right? Like Julius Randle didn't do himself any favors by becoming ball dominant with the Knicks.
You know it wasn't helping how he looks, but he's on a bad team.
So I'm always trying to balance what I think this guy would look, I'm not on the Nets, but anywhere, right? Like what? Did he look on? A good team where he has a very defined role, as opposed to being kind of this amorphous player who allows himself to get a little bit excited and be like, Maybe I'm the guy.
Maybe I'm the guy that you have a thing in my hand and everyone's saying, No, no, you're not.
He's like E J used him like they were putting the ball.
Yeah, like if I think he makes sense, he makes sense as a bench player that, like is kind of just used mainly in transition and kind of as a cutter, I guess, but like, that's such a weird type of player.
Like what? What an odd type of player to tryto fit in.
I I I've always had so much trouble figuring out where he fits in, and I think that's gonna be the story of his career.
I think he will land somewhere eventually, where it's like, Oh wow, Julius Randle is a real asset because he is a good player.
But it's like it's just one of those tricky players.
It's like you gotta have a bunch of really good defenders around him.
Um, kind of selfless guys.
And it's like he's He requires a star level cat or cast.
That's best for a star, But he's not a star himself.
Sounds like a classic heading over to the L A Lakers as they go for a to Pete going on around him with all those guys.
Like just comment.
We did this with Dwight Howard last year.
We'll do it for you this year.
We tell you what to do.
Just just calm down, friend.
Um, I did this just the other day.
Dispel the idea that Chris Paul to the Brooklyn Nets would make any sense and, you know, just insane trade that they threw out there for Spencer Dinwiddie.
DeAndre Jordan, their first round draft pick as well as somebody else, uh, and Tory on prints.
So they did the thing that added up all the salaries as far as that dump goes.
But there there's no you and I were talking about this on our stream yesterday, too, but It just doesn't make any sense to me to bring in a guy like Chris Paul, who's later in his career.
Massive contract, Also a traditional point guard.
And we know the Kyrie.
Irving likes to have the ball in his hand, and you know that Kevin Durant likes to have the ball in his hand like there's a lot of people that prefers certain style of basketball, where that seems to muddy and cloud things up.
And this feels like an easy name to throw out there that Brooklyn Nets fans would get excited about.
That really doesn't make a ton of sense.
And you also don't want to go smaller, like that's that's really giving tinier like that.
I think about that side of it.
I focus on so much of the big issues I'm like.
Also, you get tinier.
Somehow you get smaller.
Yeah, like I want to try toe like the last I don't know, 48 hours.
I've just been focusing on trying to make the Nets bigger, like it's weird because they are.
They have Durant.
They have, you know, DeAndre Jordan.
They have Jared Allen, but I I want to bring in more guys that just, like, give them a little bit of size, I'll, you know, like sure Chris Paul is a name that is going to stick out.
He fits better for other teams.
I mean, like, it just it doesn't make any sense for them to do that.
Um, the other victor, a little Depot talk is that just automatically assume that he's gonna go someplace big, whether it is maybe automatically to the Knicks, apparently that seem like they want to do it.
I know that Miami was talked about a little bit.
He seems like when you say name a guy that would make sense and I keep going and maybe you're right about overvaluing defense.
It doesn't matter if you're doing what you used to do on the offensive end of the ball.
If you can be that defensive guy, that's a great pairing to put next Thio, Kyrie, Irving guy and a guy that doesn't have to be on the ball offensively, either.
Yeah, I like Victor Oladipo.
I think more than most people, a lot of people are kinda out on him.
The injury stuff is really concerning to me, but I like in terms of what he brings to the table.
It does make some sense now.
It would just have to be for a package where it's like you don't feel like you're losing too much, So I wouldn't I wouldn't make a move for Caris Levert.
I'd be honestly hard pressed to do something for Din Woody.
I mean, I think I would in the end, but, you know, it's just like it's a big risk and you're adding another injury.
Risk I to a team with two injury risk as it stands.
So it's like, I don't know, is that really the move? So let's let's back it up here for a second Then, too.
When you talk about the roster as it currently exists, I know that there are deficiencies and you talk about the defense of side of things.
But didn't it take even Dinwiddie, you know, for $10 million? Like like I loved in Woody? I think he's exactly the kind of thing you want.
The just in case guy at the guard position.
I I think that in general everyone looks at the bubble and says you want that Third star, You've got it.
It's Caris Levert.
I'm not 100% sold on that.
I think that yes, Caris.
Levert can score like that.
But I don't think that he can score in small sample sizes.
When you have Kyrie Irving and Kevin Durant on the floor when he doesn't have the touch is now you can utilize him primarily in the second unit.
So he gets his looks from that standpoint.
But I don't automatically look at Paris and say, Oh, great, He proved that we're you know, we're all set there.
I actually looked at it and I wondered about Did you come out of the bubble? May be feeling like, Well, if we ever had the highest value on him, I went inside the numbers on a to where you go.
Like for like, defensive efficiency offensive output.
Spencer Dinwiddie is equal to Caris.
Levert. Now he's longer Caris, Levert.
Maybe the defensive upside does exist there from a matchup standpoint, But I look at and say I save $6 million.
I keep Spencer Dinwiddie.
I like what he does for us.
He has big game capability as we know and I probably get the best return on investment in a trade with Caris.
Levert? Yeah, No, it's funny.
That's a good point.
And I think that, uh, there's a lot of talk about, you know, the Caris Levert performance and how how great he was in the bubble.
I think you could make a case that did what he could come pretty close to putting up those numbers.
Now the difference really is is that you're going to have to deal with Din with his contract situation in 2021.
That's the best case for trading.
Didn't with right now is that you don't wanna have to deal with paying him.
I think that ultimately could sway the Nets in terms of what they want to dio.
But yeah, I mean, Caris Levert like he's not a good off ball shooter.
Um, I just I don't know what he looks like in a reduced role.
His usage, I think, was north of 30% in the bubble, and it kind of bled into other parts of his game.
I just worry that's the type of guy that he is.
He needs to pump his usage high and really had the ball in his hands a lot to like, make an effort, make an impact on the court.
I mean, you look at his starting versus bench numbers.
It's like night and day, and it's it's been that way for the last two years.
So you know, I don't know what that means for them necessarily.
But I do think that it's funny.
They are stuck in a tough situation where one guy a just a little bit better in that ventral.
But they don't have that flexibility that they do with Caris Levert on a you know, team friendly contract for multiple years out.
What do you look at that, though, Because it's his number of balloons up to, I think, north of 16 million this year, and he'll be out in that range over the next couple of seasons.
Like you were saying the impending contract for Spencer Dinwiddie? Potentially.
But are you comfortable with paying Caris Levert 16 17 million over the next couple of seasons? If he's a guy that needs to feel his way into games and you just don't know if you, you know, sacrifice that on the night tonight base and really specifically, let me put it that way.
I don't know if you could sacrifice that in playoff time, right? You know, during the regular season, who cares? You can almost get extra rest.
And he can carry the load for Kyrie Irving over the regular season.
But when it comes to playoff games, when you just need a quick spark, he needs more time. Dimwit.
He looks like he just comes in.
He's like, Hey, look at me.
I'm firing you Never turns out I love it so But you're comfortable with paying that contract for Caris Levert in the long term, as opposed Thio potentially re upping Spencer Dinwiddie because I don't think Where would dimwit his number even look, Is he going to get up? You know, into that we're talking about closer to 20 than 15 for him.
Like I don't know if that's really the case.
Yeah, I don't know.
I mean, I think that's probably the tricky question that, like then you also have to look it from like an ownership perspective.
Yeah, like Josie is, by all accounts, seems like he's going to resign.
I mean, I I would be surprised if they didn't get better.
Like if the bidding war gets that crazy. Fine.
But I said this yesterday, um you know, I've always felt like he's gonna pay into the tax this year.
You're one of the Kyrie KD experience.
He's gonna do whatever it takes to maximize them.
If they fall short, then it gets tricky.
Then it turns into okay, why am I putting all this money into this core that can't get it done? Especially when you have a guy like Jared Allen who would be a restricted free agent next summer? We'll see what they do with his extension this year or this offseason.
At right now I think that will be a big like that will tell us where everything's going with what they do with Jared Allen's extension.
So you have him and then you have Spencer Dinwiddie in that same 2021 summer, which is really stacked with a lot of players.
But once those players go, a guy like Spencer Dinwiddie might be a really good get for a team that needs a little bit of consolation.
So yeah, I think in the short term, side pays the tax.
No problem after that gets a little murky.
It all depends on where they finished this year, and it's so weird.
I mean, people always talk about it, But when you're trying to improve and get bigger and you have Jared Allen, the supposedly young version of DeAndre Jordan, that's what you look at him on the roster in terms of like for like, but you think you could grow and expand his game.
In some ways, you like to see that it's a tricky spot to be in because you're committed to DeAndre Jordan.
And it easily is the guy you'd be like.
Well, it's, you know, even that Chris put that insane, Chris Paul trade where you go.
Well, the money matches up because you dumped a 10 $11 million contract in DeAndre Jordan.
But that's not going anywhere.
And that's what makes it then.
Then it makes the Jared Allen thing weird because you go well, Technically, I'd love to keep him around and bring them back.
It's not gonna be a crazy contract for him, but if we know we have DeAndre Jordan, this is where we get weird.
This is where we have this odd pairing at our five that neither one of them does a complimentary thing to each other, do the same things to each other.
And that's an issue.
And I just wonder if the next look at that and I don't even know what his value is right now, either.
Like the highest value for Jared out, I think, is for us, like I don't think other teams see him that way outside of it, being a team friendly deal prior to re upping.
So it's it's a weird You can't trade the one guy you'd like to for the value of the money.
And you can't trade the other guy because he doesn't have the doesn't have the value.
Eso you stay small and you stay weird of the five, Um, and that and that thought doesn't really mean anything.
That's just that's just me.
That's just me. Going down to South five.
Been a question this whole year.
It really has like it's just it's been the the ever present next question is the five and who's playing it, and why are they both so similar? Why did we Why did we see you know why you signed them.
Why didn't you move talent If you knew they were gonna be the same player and and apparently is, You know what is Nicholas? Listen, a big question for them is Claxton, right? Not even from.
And I'm not talking about this guy could get monster minutes.
But is he capable of contributing at the four or not? Because if he's not, then he's not.
You don't want him contributed to five, I guess I would say, unless you're going hyper small and scenarios and you're trying to spread it out.
But his sample size has been so tiny about does he have a mid range or perimeter game that he can complement Kevin Durant on the floor and go ultra small at times, or even play small at the five and still do those things for you? Yeah, for sure.
I mean, one of the things, like again, my brain has been just absolutely detonated by this later.
Like everything I thought I knew about basketball.
I'm just, like, kind of rethinking.
So I've always been in the camp that you probably can't play klaxon at the four.
Next to, um, one of their centers, and I think I still agree with that just because he can't shoot just yet.
Like the way the Lakers they're able to play, it's because Anthony Davis can stretch at least to the mid range.
They need to get that out of klaxon klaxon need to figure out two things before he can play.
Really semi consistently shoot, and it doesn't have to be from three.
It could be from mid range.
He also needs to be a little bit less jumpy as a defender, Um, you know, and just kind of stay down a little bit.
He's got the classic.
He's very jumpy, very athletic, which is, like, great.
I mean, I think and that stuff is easier to fix as a big man.
But there are certain things on the on the other side of the floor that he needs to improve on a little bit right now.
So for him, though, if that jumper does, if it's come along a little bit and and he's really ableto hit that shot with consistency doesn't need to be a three.
It could just be from mid range.
Um, I think they should play them.
I think they should really just try to throw him out there, like at this point, what's the harm? Used the regular season to try things? Because when you come into the postseason and you haven't tried something, look at how the Miami Heat looked against Milwaukee when they started how the Milwaukee Bucks looked against the Miami Heat when they tried to start switching screens after not doing that for the entire season.
It was a mess. They didn't know what they were doing.
Regular season should be treated as a time to really test things out and and just try different things work on different counters, just in case you need to run into a team that forces you to play that hand.
Andi and yeah, that might mean you're going to sacrifice some regular season wins like you might lose a couple of games by playing Nicholas Klaxon at the four because he gets beat on a back door, cut or whatever Mrs every shot he takes.
But it's worth it.
I think in the long run, because you at least feel like you've tried everything you've given it your all.
You've figured out what works, what doesn't and that way.
You're not just throwing things out, you know, into the wind, essentially in the playoffs.
What's about what I look back at last year, Especially once you knew Kyrie Irving wasn't coming back.
That's when I made the case for, you know, and I understood just the value of making the playoffs because I was on that train.
I thought checking that box for a second year is important toe.
But I also was, ah, component of being like you said, like just way should be seeing a lot of Claxton.
Why shouldn't we be seeing a ton of him give him a bunch of reps in his rookie season? In a year that doesn't really matter? Even then, when it came to the bubble, I thought that should be just go ahead, throw him in like throw them in there.
Now I think he only ended up e don't If he tested positive or not get injured Injury? Yeah, that's right.
So he wasn't gonna be available in the bubble anyway.
But during the season is just like you just give him the reps.
Who cares like this? Is that proverbial toss away season and now to your point.
You want to get him some sample size in these games in the upcoming year and maybe the benefit for Brooklyn.
And a lot of ways could be We have some blow out games that were winning right games that we normally when we come down to the wire in a lot of these, you assume, especially against the back end of the East, there's gonna be games when we're up 20 points in the fourth quarter and you want to get rest for Kevin Durant.
You wanna get rest for Kyrie Irving.
So hopefully his sample size goes up because your point about, but I think it's true, too.
Miami Heat Spoelstra They very much knew the things that we can pivot to the other combinations that we can work to create problems for the opposition.
Bud, the theme of the Milwaukee Bucks was like, If it ain't working, you got me guys, you know, And then when you start to just throw something out there as a possibility, my time you realized it didn't work.
Not not working is losing a game in the playoffs.
It's not not working and losing game number 43 midway through the season.
So I'll be interesting to see how they try to use some of these young guys.
And that extends by the way, Um, I wonder about Moussa.
Clearly looks like he played himself out of the out of this team.
Unfortunately, he was a roller coaster ride, man, where, by the way, and I'll shame myself on this coming into the year, Doug and I went over like, you know, most improved player opportunities and we, you know, dark horses and stuff like that I threw out.
Cruz is saying, I think this guy could be the most improved.
He's got the like, all these things It started out like pit of despair.
Then he, like, started rising up the ranks a little bit.
And the bubble was really like That was the microcosm of this division of like, such beautiful high, a couple of beautiful flashes of highs.
And then, by the end of it, you were like, Okay, this isn't the answer.
I know he's still so young was so bad in that Toronto serious he was so bad, and some of the brutal looks on him, especially defensively and the choices that he makes and the way that he looks in transition and just being just Yeah, When I first saw him starting to just shoot in rhythm from three, I was like, Oh my God, he's taking the shot like good for him.
And then he And then he made it to regress inside of a bubble inside of one Siri's.
He regrets from pulling the trigger to doing that weird little hitch and getting called on travels.
And it's so hard with young players, you know, to say That's it for them.
But coming into a big year for Brooklyn, your at best you're sitting deep on the bench and watching for the entire.
This isn't a guy.
I want to get a sample size during the season.
I want to see Claxton.
Cruz is like, Hey, man, just sit there and we'll see if your reps in practice are worth it.
And that's if you're on this roster.
That's if you're deep on this bench because I could see that turnover coming.
And then Moussa, I mean, listen, I guess cool looks At least he they thought he was worth a look.
Moussa wasn't I mean, didn't get reps That was insane to me as well.
So there's a lot of young and back end guys they could switch over here for for Brooklyn? No, I was just gonna stay with Rohde like, yeah, Moose I didn't out on since.
Probably December gym where I was like, that was an easy one.
Uh, no road is tricky because they needed the ideal rodeo school all year.
They needed the scrappy glue guy that, you know, they can basically create with back cuts and shoot some threes.
I think about this.
This guy improved from, like, a 30% shooter to a 40%.
Sure, I'll be it on very small volume.
But he improved by 10% points from three and was somehow worse this year.
Like, how does that work like? I don't know.
That's just that's crazy to me.
Like that was his big minus coming out of his rookie season.
He improved it yet somehow had a worse year.
I just network Well, that would be the thing to when you say, like, into your to go to just just get better from three.
Like, if you sit on paper, this guy is gonna improve 10% points from perimeter shooting.
Oh, my God, What a phenomenal year for Rodion Screws.
And yet he's like, Oh, but I'm also gonna do other some other things so disastrously that you're gonna wanna take me off the Onley silver lining that I'll put out there for him because you know I love these Rapture ratings is that he was a plus on the defensive end.
He is a positive on that you guys, and by the way, he's a disaster.
Offensively, he's a huge minus number offensively, So maybe there is a possibility of him being the hay like Let's we're All we need from you is some defensive minutes in small sample sizes.
When you get to the second unit, and maybe that's how his his season starts is, Get out there, use your size and length.
You actually are one of the bigger guys for us at the position, so we can use you in that way.
And let's just see if you're getting three minutes a game and you're effective defensively.
Maybe it grows from there, and even that's probably a misnomer in terms of a stat line because of you know you're not playing.
You're not playing starting minutes.
So you're not playing the starting threes.
The starting forwards.
You're not getting those reps where we can really say, Oh, you're good or bad defensively.
It's not a real stat e like crap parade.
I use it a lot, so I like rapture rating a lot.
Um, I think it's really hard for me to get a feel like for him defensively, but I think when it mattered, he was really bad and was like a huge minus like that Toronto Siris was I just was I was out.
I was like, All right, I'm good.
I don't need to see this anymore.
Sure, he's not so much of the ugly underbelly that is running on crooks.
Uh, the last thing, man.
And then we'll get out of here on a Friday when I run off names like Dean Martin Rosen, Nicolas Batum, Tim Hardaway Jr.
Kent Bazemore with bird rights Evan Fournier out of Orlando, Courtney Lee with Bird, writes Tony Snell, these just random shooting guards that are going to be available on the market do any of those names resonate with me.
Do any of those seem noteworthy in terms of taking a look? The first guy that I checked in on was DeRozan Just that I was like, Where is this guy? At and again? Not a great defensive player.
So that seems like the notable name that it's easy to dismiss.
Yeah, but do any any of those guys feel like they would be potential complementary piece here? Tim Hardaway Jr is interesting, but I do think that Dallas retains him.
You found his home there, right? The one that I like is Kent Bazemore.
I actually I thought Kent Bazemore and look like Kent.
Bazemore was one of those players where he's like biannually good, like he'll have, like, a good year, and then he'll be, like, unplayable.
So uh, which is like, I don't know What's a good example of that? He's got like like Trevor Ariza, the Trevor Rees, a problem where he's like good one year and then just like, not like, just can't shoot the next year, but one on one off, one on one off eso you signed him to a two year deal and you'll get a good one.
Eso i think like yeah, like Kent Bazemore makes a little bit of sense.
Um, when she was a little bit bigger, like just a little bit.
I do feel like he's a little bit more of, Ah, guard A, you know, like a Bradley Beeld.
And I don't know LeBron James, Anthony Davis and being that even when Bazemore was like, really in his athletic prime, he just couldn't really stay with somebody like LeBron.
So, um, I think he makes a little bit of sense out of anybody who said Marta Rose and I really I have no interest.
I feel like he's, ah, more severe Caris Levert Like it's like everything that Levert you don't think it's gonna fit well with Kyrie and Katie, you're gonna get that even more with Tamar.
And then, uh, and then some of the other guys like Batum.
I just Yeah, what do you even looking at with Charlotte? I don't know.
I don't know why when I said Courtney Lee out loud like my immediate response to my mind was like Cornelis in the league.
I know that Honest to God, no idea what a Dallas where the only state where was he waas Courtney Lee? Yeah, he was He was on Dallas on He is.
Then he has 34 years old, so I mean, it makes sense that right, that he was out there.
But I like Courtney Lee like I'm like, mid 2000 school like it just I can't believe that I was listening.
I'm so returned to Brooklyn.
The long lost the long lost piece for for the Nets.
New Jersey, Brooklyn days.
Yeah, Listen, that's the interesting thing, though.
A lot of these guys that are out there on the market are are not, You know, it's not the ideal fit, and it's not even about superstar player or this big piece, but just functional, fitting in with what the Nets need the most of.
And then again, I think brings it back.
Thio Well, Caris Levert and Spencer Din with the and, you know, in the cast of characters, it makes me think within reason, outside of some of these big ideas that get thrown out there, I lean towards the nets being we're gonna hold Pat, and at the very least, we're going to go into the season and see where things.
Look when we have, because we still haven't seen the Kevin Durant Kyrie Irving Brooklyn Nets.
So as we get a sample size and by the way they can afford to do in the East, we can wait 20 games, 25 30 games to understand what we have now and what we're truly lacking in terms of complementary pieces.
So the way I always go back to the defensive side of the ball.
But guess what? Kevin Durant? Yeah, he's a nice defensive piece when you can, when you can match up a lot of different ways and defense gets mitigated when you have this type of offense.
So I think we're in that weird area.
Still, of not knowing what might be needed to help this roster outside of maybe the obvious saying size, but even even a It was Vince Carter who said, You want a third star, you have him.
It's DeAndre Jordan.
Now that gave me a chuckle.
It gave Duggan myself a good, hearty chuckle.
But I will say and I don't think he's a third star, but I will say he's a different player on a team with Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving, right? Like his functionality is different.
Still doing the same thing, but you don't need him to be a needle mover.
Just grab, grab the rebounds, take the alley.
Like he does function really well.
And I guess I have to hedge my bets in spite of my personal opinion around him that maybe he is going to function really well with talent.
This team, I don't I still don't like it.
So wish we didn't have him, But I get Yeah, well, he keeps the Stars happy.
That's like that with them, like he's there, that's it.
Well, here's what I want, I said, It's a Doug we're talking about. Go listen.
What I will say is he's the guy that when you watch the pregame and he's touched up Alan throw and he's checking in with Spencer doing when he's doing all those little things on a championship caliber team, He's the vet you want there.
Do you want to be paying in 10 year? 11 million year? No.
But you love everything about him.
Short of not wanting him to be a crucial piece toe winning.
So I was like, Listen, are you paying a high price veteran Rob Ross.
Okay, I can live with that.
If it's deep playoff runs and you're not saying we want him starting at the five consistently and we actually think that he's better value than Jared Allen and this is to the Nets fan base at large.
You're out of your mind if you think that you're better off playing DeAndre Jordan starting DeAndre Jordan for starter minutes over Jared Allen.
I don't know where I I don't know how people get their outside of reading the name Jordan on the back of the jersey and thinking that still has cachet, as it did at some point in his career.
That's still the misnomer To me.
It still doesn't mean that that's one of the knocks about Kenny Atkinson or even about jock like, you know, just I don't get it outside of it, being a tenant of what Durant and Irving want to see, and that's what you want to show them This year.
I don't get him getting mawr than a I don't know, 15 15 to 20 minutes.
That's his cap for a game.
I don't think it should be 20 to 25 upwards of 30 minutes for DeAndre.
No, I I'm trying to think about how they could make this work because, uh, he's fine.
If he's Brooklyn's JaVale McGee like, yeah, and the backup, which I guess in this case, let's say Jared Allen is there because I'm not completely out on the I'm not like, sold that he's getting traded.
Personally, I think they're gonna sniff around, see what's out there.
But I'm not, you know, again like you can't just predict that he's gone because you don't know you're only talking about one side of the transactional equation.
You do need to have another party where a They actually want what you're trading and B they have something that the Nets would want.
So for them, I think you could have a situation where DeAndre Jordan starts.
Fine place 10 12 minutes.
Regular season play.
Little market, even split the minutes if you want, because you just don't want him complaining about this role again.
Which is the part I get scared about when it comes to deep playoff runs.
Is DeAndre Jordan gonna wanna be out there like in an MBA Finals.
I don't know, but you could have the situation where he's your JaVale McGee, the backup that comes off the bench.
It will probably actually a little bit better.
So Jared Allen is your Dwight Howard in this situation.
That's what I would hope for.
We'll see if they get there.
You have to have buy in from both players.
One guy is, is the guy that basically came to Brooklyn to play with his two friends.
He might want to see a little more floor time.
Jared Allen is a young player that if they don't offer him that extension, he's a restricted free agent next summer.
He wants to get paid, so that's a tricky situation as well.
You've got to get buy in from him, so that's where this falls apart a little bit.
You don't have to vets that.
I kind of understand Hey, we gotta be role players.
It's a guy that may carry himself like a star and a young player that wants to get Hiss and that's I like to think that you're going short term and long term right.
Keeping Jared Allen around makes sense so that after DeAndre Jordan even on the back end of Kevin Durant Kyrie Irving like you can always keep out around on this roster.
You can be your brook Lopez for a number of you know, for a long time in Brooklyn, So interest to see how that develops.
Um, sorry real quick, because the idea of disgruntled Paul George is there ever a scenario and it doesn't have to be Paul George, But is there ever a scenario that you could go to Kyrie Irving and Kevin Durant say part of this package, whether it's from a money standpoint or they actually are interested in DeAndre Jordan, Is there any scenario where DeAndre Jordan could be a part of the trade? Or we're Kevin Durant, Kyrie, Irving understand the value of what comes in tow? What goes out for sure? I Yeah, I think so.
I mean, like, I think we all kind of live in a world where it's like DeAndre would never, ever get traded because he's very close friends.
But you also to remember like, yeah, it's a Team USA.
They became friends. Great.
That's what brought them there.
Um, there also competitive.
And if they have.
Hey, maybe another fellow use a guy in, uh, in Paul George, or I don't know somebody else.
Let's just say the bucks just, you know, lose Yanis.
Maybe Chris Middleton becomes available.
Um, somebody along those lines that makes sense, Like a lot of sense as a third star fills a position that they know that they need.
Um, yeah, I think they would have to make that call.
That would be awkward, but I mean, well, okay.
And then you wait for it and they were friends.
But then you wait for the Kyrie.
Irving, listen, I didn't I didn't say trade, DeAndre Jordan, Do I look at the roster and think certain players fit better with the classic Kenny Atkinson comment that, you know, I was like, I didn't get Kenny Atkinson fired.
Now, do I want certain things from my head coach? And do I like what Kenny did for that version of this team? But not for my version of the team off course, But I didn't have you know there could be the falling out podcast that Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving engagement.
So it's interesting, man, Listen, this is what I thought this is exactly what I thought this was going to be a sprawling all over the place conversation.
But at the very least, I just I need Thio.
I need to be having these conversations.
It's not the off season officially yet, but I still need to talk Brooklyn and I still need Thio.
Run down some of these random speculative things and at least continue toe flesh out what we think about certain pieces on this roster.
And that's, you know, the din would ease the reverts, even the Allens and their value around this league.
You know, just just good.
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Is there something up next for you? Yeah, I have a guy I have ah, guy named Sham.
Do A who's coming on next week.
I think Monday is what we're locking down, doing some pelican stuff.
Maybe a little drew holiday stuff.
Uh, some head coaching nonsense, but so that will be happening.
And then I think Wednesday I have a Lakers guy coming on.
We're gonna dio probably a little bit of celebratory, blah, blah, blah.
The Lakers air so great and then also just kind of talking about next year and actually how they could improve a little bit.
So, um, that'll be fun, because that's a conversation I've wanted to have for a while.
We've done it a little bit.
We've talked about little things that they could dio.
I want to sit there and talk with somebody that's really watch this team all year long and really thought about ways that they can improve certain spots and just insulate those stars. So I'm excited.
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