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00:00:08
mhm.
00:00:13
And with that, we officially welcome you into SportsCastr news covering all things NFL.
00:00:20
We're joined by Laurence Owen.
00:00:22
I am Adam Arm Brecht breaking down what we saw on Thursday night between the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the upstart the surprising Chicago Bears.
00:00:31
How are you on a Thursday? Friday morning.
00:00:33
Excuse me, Lawrence, How are you this morning? I'm doing pretty good, man.
00:00:37
I'll like what 90% of my predictions from last night's game came true.
00:00:41
So I'm all good about it.
00:00:43
Way have had a couple.
00:00:45
You know, we've had some hits and misses along the early days of Thursday night football that we've done with our previous and the reviews.
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But this was a good one.
00:00:51
We, in spite of some people calling, maybe firm or of the shootout.
00:00:55
We really thought the under made a lot of sense in this matchup.
00:00:58
We thought that it would stay tight longer and later, and you actually went with you went straight up thinking that the bears could take this one.
00:01:04
I took those points so worked out for both of us.
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But you saw the possibility of this defense making things difficult for a dinged up. Little bit depleted.
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Ah, Tampa Bay Buccaneers offense.
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Oh, yeah, yeah.
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I mean, you coming into this knowing that, uh, they're down, they're they're starting tight end there down there.
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Number two, wide receiver.
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You know they're down.
00:01:26
Leonard for net.
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You know, their offensive line is not the best in the NFL.
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Tom Brady does not move very well.
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You know, when it comes to pressure.
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And from what I saw of that Chicago defense when they played Indianapolis on Sunday, they are just a very aggressive defense.
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And Chuck Pagano does a great job of doing second half adjustments, adjusting where his pressure is coming from, as opposed to where the protection schemes is so that he get that pressure on the quarterback and that man, that second half Tom Brady.
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Tom Brady was mawr trying to protect his own body than finding open receivers.
00:02:04
Well, listen that you mentioned it.
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The adjustments right, because early in this one, it really favored Tampa Bay, and it was an odd start to this game in a lot of ways, because Tampa Bay comes out, they really control things Now.
00:02:16
One of the misses that I had was thinking that we could have saw the slot receiver bubble up for them a little bit more instead.
00:02:21
Really, Tampa Bay just goes with the random cast of characters you don't even hear from Mike Evans very early in this game for them.
00:02:27
They work their way through the running game, but the tempo is nice.
00:02:29
They're keeping Chicago back on their heels.
00:02:32
You're keeping Tom Brady upright.
00:02:33
They have a 13 nothing lead.
00:02:36
And yet, you know as well get into what Nick Foles did here.
00:02:40
But what did you like about that early Temple for Tampa Bay? What did you like? How they mitigated? Ah, healthy getting healthy Chicago Bears defense.
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That's what they weren't early in this season.
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Now they're getting a lot of their weapons back.
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But Tampa Bay was able to do it.
00:02:51
They were able to keep them back off their heels and give Tom Brady time to find a lot of receivers.
00:02:56
Yeah, it's actually pretty impressive, because if you think about it generally, the early onset is, uh, the defense usually has, you know, the upper hand at the beginning of the game, whereas the offense they have to make their adjustments toe what the defense is doing to you, and it was the complete opposite.
00:03:14
You saw Brady and this offense and Bruce Arians play calling and everything.
00:03:20
They were dictating the flow early on, especially with the run game, and Jones was just eating them alive on the ground, and the Bears had no answer for it.
00:03:31
Um uh, the this shows to me that when Eddie Goldman, the defensive tackle for the Bears when he decided to opt out, the Bears have not found anyone nowhere near ready Goldman's abilities to be able to fill in for that spot.
00:03:49
Because last year, when they had Eddie Goldman and the rest of the team that you see, they had a very good stout run defense and the loss of Eddie Goldman just really hurt him.
00:03:58
Tampa Bay knew that, and they just ran it right down their throats and then used to play action off of that.
00:04:04
Yeah, a lot of between the tackle runs for for the for Jones and Tampa Bay there And, like you say when you lose a player like that to an opt out, especially listen. Cleo.
00:04:13
Max still had a great game, but it changes what he's able to solely focus on on what his function is in the defense.
00:04:19
Now, you need to ask him to do multiple things, and it pulls him away from being a pure guy, getting around that edge.
00:04:25
Which, by the way, I'm just gonna sidebar here real quick before I get into some of those receiving numbers.
00:04:30
I know that he was off balance, but I think it was Christian worse.
00:04:33
After one of those plays on Tom Brady, he was still hand checking and Khalil Mack Arm, bar, body slammed him.
00:04:41
I don't care if he was off balance or not.
00:04:43
He was off of his feet and out of the ground.
00:04:46
I could not believe that.
00:04:47
I mean, just sure strength of Mac to pick up what must be a near £300 offensive lineman.
00:04:53
It was like, Yeah, thanks, buddy.
00:04:55
Yeah, he's the big one, right? Yeah, like, excuse me, sir.
00:04:59
So that was just a ah fun.
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Take a step back and realize the physical specimen that is the NFL players.
00:05:06
So, um, to the point, though, about the offense is well, Tom Brady finds eight different receivers.
00:05:11
Nobody had more than four catches.
00:05:13
Tyler Johnson was actually the high man, and he did some of that work early in this game early in the first quarter.
00:05:17
There in those first couple of drives, but nobody eclipse 61 yards again.
00:05:21
Tyler Johnson, the high man there, so spread the ball around effectively.
00:05:25
But Mike Evans, who only got 41 yards in this one, had the touchdown, but his injuries came in a little bit.
00:05:31
Dinged up certainly made it different, just in terms of of where the offense looked to go had to be more methodical, as opposed to explosive, which is what we expect from this Tampa Bay offense when 100% healthy on the other side of the ball, you're down 13 nothing.
00:05:47
It feels like things are going away from what we assumed our predictions would be coming into this game, and then it is the two sides of the coin that is Mr Nicholas fulls.
00:05:57
And as Matt Nagy said in the post game, when asked about you, what do you expect? This is what you think you get from Nick Foles, he said.
00:06:04
That's who he is.
00:06:05
All in all, the offense made plays when it has to, and I think that's one of the special special traits that Nick has and that really speaks. Thio.
00:06:12
He goes seven of seven in that second quarter, driving down the field to get the Chicago Bears back into this game from the initial start of this one toe where it looked at halftime.
00:06:23
Is that exactly what you expected from Nick's folds? Or were you at least surprised in Mawr terms off, If it starts bad, it could stay bad, and he really was able to turn it around and get back on track.
00:06:33
It felt like maybe this thing was going to be a disaster for them, and it was going to be Nick Foles missed Robiskie.
00:06:38
Who cares? It's a problem, right? Actually, with Nick Foles, I kind of, you know, the whole yin yang that you got right there or you got Yin Tang.
00:06:47
But that's all right.
00:06:48
You could go.
00:06:49
Tang Tang, A delicious space drinks.
00:06:52
Sometimes he hits the upper stratosphere.
00:06:54
That is Nick Foles performances.
00:06:57
Well, I mean, he's one of those guys that he could have a three and out with really bad passes, one drive and then the next Dr Drop Five beautiful, perfect passes.
00:07:12
And you're gonna get that throughout the game.
00:07:15
You're gonna get three or four really good drives where he is dead on point and making outstanding, fantastic plays that play where he scrambled out of the backfield in the second half and was ableto create some space where you thought, you know, this is more of a mixed Robiskie.
00:07:31
Look on what you would expect from him, whereas fools was doing it.
00:07:35
And then through a dime downfield for a great play.
00:07:38
You get that from him? Everything about three or four drives the game expecting it.
00:07:44
You know what you're going to get from him on that level.
00:07:48
But then on the flip side, yes, you're gonna have three or 43 announce from them as well.
00:07:54
You know, you know that he's going to go for those chunk yards.
00:08:00
Um, whenever he's out there, he's Look, he's not looking for the check down.
00:08:04
First, he's looking for that deep ball first and foremost, and then he works his way back, which, you know a lot of quarterback, a lot of offensive players in NFL fans.
00:08:13
That's what they want, especially in today's NFL.
00:08:15
You know you want that offensive.
00:08:17
If it's a defensive game like this, you call it ugly, Sloppy.
00:08:21
You call it boring, you know, to a lot of people, Whereas me, obviously, I'm a defense guy.
00:08:27
I love defense, but this is still a very sloppy offensive play game.
00:08:30
Um, Nick polls.
00:08:33
You know what you got? You hired him.
00:08:36
You made him the starter.
00:08:38
And you know, that's that's what you gotta ride with.
00:08:41
You know what you have? You ride with what you have in some ways over on the MBA side of things with the finals that will go on tonight.
00:08:48
You know, Jimmy gonna bucket, You know, Jimmy, Jimmy, You know, talk about Jimmy Butler.
00:08:52
He's gonna get his buckets.
00:08:53
Nick Gonna falls, man.
00:08:55
You know what this guy is going to do for you? You just gotta hope you get more of the good than the bad and your point.
00:09:00
He wants to hit those big plays he missed early in this game.
00:09:03
Some very easy pick up a first down to Alan Robinson near the sideline.
00:09:07
And you thought, Can this guy throw the ball seven yards on an out route because he was missing him five yards at a band like he could not seem to hit him, missing guys on similar media passes as well.
00:09:17
And then all of the sudden, he starts to roll.
00:09:19
He finds his rhythm, and I think that that's the risk reward.
00:09:22
When you talk about Chicago making this switch, you when? When you talk about mixed Robiskie, what you're hoping is play average and don't and don't fall below it.
00:09:30
You don't think there's any room for sealing in a given game with Nick Foles? I would say, probably even his baseline is better than the best of what Mitchell Trotsky is, but you'll take a couple of ugly passes here and there because you know he can find this rhythm.
00:09:44
He can move the offense.
00:09:46
And that's something that Robiskie hasn't shown the same level off consistency around a great piece that we talked about, two highlighting it.
00:09:52
You mentioned a couple of the areas that we thought they could attack Tampa Bay offensively was going to possibly be.
00:09:58
I mentioned Alan Robinson.
00:09:59
Being a key cog 10 for 90 really was, of course, the staple.
00:10:03
The true number one continued to prove that in this game, but you throughout Jimmy Graham.
00:10:07
And even though Onley quote unquote three for 33 had a great over the top Little Cherry pick that ball from the defender in the end zone.
00:10:15
And that was hand.
00:10:17
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I demonstrate that in the wrong way.
00:10:20
Like this.
00:10:21
It was kind of around the back and grab it and pull it in.
00:10:23
Very athletic, very consistent play from Jimmy Graham early in this season for Chicago, and he's found a nice home here.
00:10:30
You know, it looked like in Green Bay in Seattle.
00:10:35
What's going on with this guy? You know, why can't you find this rhythm? But I think that you actually kind of need, Even though you look at Jimmy Graham is as a really athletic tight end.
00:10:43
He's not a burner.
00:10:45
He's not a speedster, right? So what you need is a nice, methodical offense where he can pick his spots to get utilized.
00:10:50
And that's what Chicago has.
00:10:51
So when Nick Foles looks to him on that end zone play, it's a beauty, you know, it's just Hey, go or go earn this jump all out there and he does that for you.
00:10:58
So they did the thing consistently that we expected, I think, on the offensive side.
00:11:03
But we'll touch on the outlook for Chicago and some of the issues.
00:11:07
I think they have going forward.
00:11:08
But you mentioned it before, sloppy on both sides of the ball.
00:11:11
Offensively, to a lot of the extent sloppy on the defensive side of the ball, 10 penalties for 120 yards for Tampa Bay.
00:11:18
I'm not even sure where Chicago stood, actually in their final total, but just a really sloppy game all across the field and coming into it.
00:11:26
These are some of the more penalized teams in the league as I try to get a look here at those penalties.
00:11:32
Six for 66 for Chicago.
00:11:34
So not terrible, but just, you know, false starts, encroachment penalties, roughing the passer penalties.
00:11:41
Is it difficulty when you think you're looking at two quality teams in the NFL? Like I know from a job now you're you're Cold Sky.
00:11:48
As a Giants fan, it's hard to watch teams play sloppy ball.
00:11:52
I said it over on social media told you before we started.
00:11:54
That's 2.
00:11:55
5 games worth of penalties for the New York football Giants.
00:11:58
Right now, No. 1 14.
00:11:59
I feel like we deserve a win just based on playing clean football.
00:12:03
Is that Is that frustrating? Just from a fan perspective, Toe watch games like that, we're really slows down the pacing and the excitement of the game, right? Well, um, it depends.
00:12:12
Uh, if a lot of your penalties are those, like simple holding penalties or pass interference penalties, those happened almost every play of every game.
00:12:21
It just depends upon referees on whether they're calling them or not.
00:12:25
Now, on that play, that was like third and long.
00:12:29
Khalil Mack Sacks Tom Brady in the backfield should be ready for a punt, but instead he actually he has him wrapped up.
00:12:40
The whistle's blown.
00:12:42
He's supposed to let him go.
00:12:43
Instead, he picks him up in body slams it.
00:12:45
Okay, that's a guy that is, that is the kind of stuff that, as a fan, as a coach, even as a player, you look at and go.
00:12:54
What the heck You know I get you want to get your shots in on the guy, but you gotta play clean and you can't put your team in a detrimental situation when you knew you had this guy getting ready to have to punt the football.
00:13:09
And now you give them a shot to continue to drive and and go down and score.
00:13:14
And it's things like that, those kind of place that just frustrate the heck out of not just me, but I mean, if you I'm sure you've seen that multiple times.
00:13:25
I've seen it with the Colts.
00:13:26
I've seen it with other teams, not as much with the Colts.
00:13:29
The Colts are one of those teams, as your team is, you know, very steadfast in and what they do.
00:13:37
And then when you do see one, like I've seen penalties from Darius Leonard, where he's knocking someone out of bounds and they say, You know, um, personal foul, you know, unnecessary roughness.
00:13:50
And I'm just looking at it going.
00:13:52
He was hitting him.
00:13:54
He was still in bounds.
00:13:55
He was hitting him, putting them out of bounds that that don't seem.
00:13:57
But now, if they were already out of bounds, that's something different.
00:14:00
But, uh, sometimes those rats, those air delicate to write those delicate things where you go well, he's technically giving himself up.
00:14:08
You want your guy to be smarter, but football is played such a fast.
00:14:11
You know, it's hard to say now break down your tackle and just go ahead and give him a little touch.
00:14:15
So he steps out, you know, gently.
00:14:16
Or if a quarterback is scrambling and rushing for yards and the defenders coming in to hit him.
00:14:23
And then at the last second the quarterback slides.
00:14:25
And then there's contact.
00:14:28
And then, you know, unnecessary roughness is called and you look at it and go, well, speed of the game that shouldn't have been called blah, blah, blah.
00:14:35
And then.
00:14:36
But if you're on the other team, you're like, Where's the flag? You know eso it, Really? It has a lot to do with perspective.
00:14:42
It also has a lot to do with the referees.
00:14:44
You know, game.
00:14:46
How are they feeling? Yeah, now, when we mentioned one of the last footnote about Khalil Mack, I think in this one to me is usually a lot of times those those personal foul penalties roughing the passer penalties.
00:14:57
A lot of times come because you're not getting home right.
00:14:59
It's the ***ulative effect of feeling like you're getting close, but you're not quite getting there.
00:15:03
Then when you finally do, it's like the release of all of that of all of that energy when you go inside a stat line.
00:15:08
By the way, though, had a phenomenal game.
00:15:11
Two sacks had a pass deflection had three Q B hits.
00:15:14
So for a veteran, you really want him to take that step back and understand the situation.
00:15:19
Understand, your defense is playing high level at that point, and you're about to get the ball back, and instead you give a fresh set of downs.
00:15:25
And in a lot of ways, even though only six penalties Ah, lot of the ones for Chicago were in crucial spots were extended drives and kept Tampa Bay closer in this one after having 13 points in the first half, just six in the second half.
00:15:37
So really kept this game a little bit closer than it probably needed to be.
00:15:41
Speaking off Tom Brady.
00:15:43
Uh, there's some things to unpack here for him, including on the last the final sequence.
00:15:47
I will start here with the, uh, Tom not so terrific accounting, you know, it looked like he wanted to take advantage of getting back up to the line quickly against this Bears defense.
00:15:57
He went for a big shot there, didn't convert it and then spent a lot of time kind of wandering around the field wondering why I don't get my fourth down play.
00:16:05
It's because that was your third.
00:16:07
Downplay your on fourth down or you know you're on fourth down there.
00:16:10
Excuse me, the game is over.
00:16:11
You've turned the ball over almost shocking to see someone like Tom Brady, who was so meticulous in the details, just completely lose track of the Downs there and go for a big chunk play when you had chances.
00:16:25
The third downplay.
00:16:26
He did the same thing, right? He thought that he's gonna have a couple of plays.
00:16:29
So on third down he goes for the big chunk shot, thinking it's second down and then it trickles back.
00:16:34
All of a sudden, they turned it over, Uh, surprised by that and then also just surprised in general about some of his hits and misses over the course of this game as a whole.
00:16:42
All right, so hey did look like he was running around afterwards and it looked like he was, you know, thinking, Well, I still gotta down left, don't I, um, Bruce Arians, after the game, stated that Brady knew that it was forced down.
00:17:00
So it's either a.
00:17:03
We all got it wrong.
00:17:05
And maybe he was thinking, Where's my pass interference penalty on that play? Because that was a very close, you know, coverage on that situation.
00:17:13
Or be Bruce Arian was really trying to cover for Tom Brady.
00:17:17
Um either way, let's, let's say, let's say Tom Brady thought it waas Onley third down.
00:17:23
At that point, that will be two games inside of a week where a veteran quarterback made a massive mistake.
00:17:31
Tom Brady thinking that.
00:17:33
And then you go back to Brian Hoyer on the Patriots who thought he still had a time out.
00:17:38
You know, at the end of the game and you're like, What in the world? You know, veteran quarterbacks are making massive mistakes right now and and you don't see that hit that often, let alone twice in in a single week.
00:17:52
Tom Brady Earlier we talked about this, Um, they're the hits and misses, right? There were times when he was throwing darts and and hitting this guy's dead on.
00:18:04
And there was very few times when Mike Evans was open in this game very few times, like wide open.
00:18:11
Ah, lot of times it was he was throwing it to a place where only Mike Evans can't get it, because Mike Evans, like, 10 ft three and, you know, it could just be like mine.
00:18:20
Um, but there was a play where Evans went on a go route.
00:18:25
He put a little move on.
00:18:27
I believe I can't remember.
00:18:31
Was it busters? Crimes, I think.
00:18:33
May I think so.
00:18:34
I put a little a little hits move on him and then and then lost him. Bond.
00:18:40
He was wide open 50 yards downfield.
00:18:44
Brady unl EU Watch it.
00:18:46
He put everything he had into that football, and it's still dropped five yards behind Evans.
00:18:52
It actually hit the ground behind the defender, who was two yards behind Evans and Evans was wide open.
00:19:00
Easy touchdown.
00:19:01
But it is very apparent.
00:19:04
Brady doesn't have the arm strength he used to have.
00:19:06
He was never he never had a cannon in his career.
00:19:10
You never looked at him and go, That's a Cam Newton or Brett Farve, Cannon right, but he had enough arm strength to to throw those 50 yard bombs.
00:19:19
And this time, even with that way up in the air ball with everything he had to, he was able to step into it everything and completely just dropped it right behind the receiver.
00:19:29
And I know firsthand going back to the potentially undefeated season against the New York football Giants.
00:19:34
Randy Moss had us.
00:19:35
He had that step down that sideline, and that's Super Bowl.
00:19:38
If you put it out in front of him, he's gonna get there.
00:19:41
Now that that was, you're talking about a 65 70 yards through the air kind of past.
00:19:44
But to your point, when those big plays air available for Tom Brady over his career, it's usually I uncork it.
00:19:50
And by the way, I give it everything I have.
00:19:52
And I'm pretty good at putting it a nice placement.
00:19:54
So it's a combination, and you can live with that.
00:19:57
You don't have to have the biggest arm.
00:19:58
Ton of quarterbacks are great at this.
00:20:00
Drew Brees doesn't have the biggest arm, but he finds a way to give himself some space and create a launch angle to get that thing down field in a game like this, and in general, when you have those big opportunities earlier, I want to stay in the third quarter.
00:20:14
Maybe had an opportunity to get Gronkowski through through it high, which is fine, but also got a little bit behind Gronkowski.
00:20:20
You know that he's not the same player he once was.
00:20:22
So you gotta get it into his bread basket a couple of times.
00:20:25
And the other thing, so you know, it's inconsistent a little bit.
00:20:28
I'll touch back quickly to the to the fourth down play.
00:20:30
The reason why I know Bruce Arians.
00:20:32
It's a couple things.
00:20:33
Two weeks ago, he came out really criticized Tom Brady.
00:20:35
Then the following week, though, stopped all that nonsense.
00:20:38
Understand? He needs to support Tom Brady in the postgame press conferences, so you know you're going to support him.
00:20:43
But Tom Brady was standing on the field doing this, showing four fingers to the referees, saying, Isn't it fourth down? Isn't it fourth down? So he lost track of it.
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I'm not gonna beat him up over, but that's what the reality was.
00:20:53
Bruce Arians look ends up looking a little bit silly, going the extra mile in the post game. Overall.
00:20:58
In this one, though, when you talk about so few catches for Evan Ingram dinged up, spread the ball around pretty well.
00:21:04
I go back and I look at that running game and I just start toe Wonder.
00:21:08
You know Ronald Jones.
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You mentioned it having great success in between the tackles.
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He ran for 106 yards, 6.
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2 clip with a long of 37.
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Even take that off the board.
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He's still sitting there healthily at 60 plus yards on 17 carries.
00:21:24
I'm a little surprised that you didn't lean into that mawr, especially considering the lack of weapons.
00:21:30
The players you're missing. No Godwin in this one.
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It's like a footnote.
00:21:33
It almost feels like cause you've been out for a few weeks, but you don't have the same weapons you anticipate.
00:21:38
Maybe to your point as well, tricky when you don't know if you can get some of these big plays to a Mike Evans.
00:21:44
Were you surprised they didn't lean heavily? I mean, 23 carries 24 carries for the running game.
00:21:49
It feels like that could have been a nice differences staying on the field, especially as you felt that mo mentum shifting in the direction of Chicago right in the football is tricky, especially against defense is that can stop it when they need to.
00:22:03
Um, if you put too many rushes in, then you end up tipping the hat off to the defense.
00:22:12
I like I actually etcetera.
00:22:14
Yes, I do like the amount of times they ran the football, because that allows the play action the work.
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And it also allows the running game to still gain positive yardage.
00:22:29
Um, like like I'm saying, if they ran it 24 times and they took say, ah, bunch of temps off of them it was a close game at in the second half close.
00:22:41
Get all the way down there was like, You know, one person has a lead.
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Next person has a lead.
00:22:45
So they were expecting Bears were probably expecting a run quite a bit.
00:22:50
There was quite a few times where Jones would get the ball and get hit in the back field and dropped, and then and then that would happen a couple times.
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Then you would see him break off a 10 yard run.
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That was just like, Man, he just broke eight tackles getting that, you know, 10 yards.
00:23:04
Um, I think that they wanted to keep more of a balance of of the ball so that they weren't tipping their hat one way or another in the second half so that they would have that weapon on both the past and the run.
00:23:21
And I get that.
00:23:22
Which is really weird talking about Tom Brady and Bruce Arians at the helm of the football team, where they're trying to keep a balance with the run game.
00:23:34
Yeah, it's interesting, because again, you go inside those stats.
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It's 41 pass attempts for Tom Brady, the 17 Russia's Brady scrambled or had got credited with three carry.
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So if you put it a 20 carries for the game, you're talking about a 2 to 1 ratio.
00:23:48
I just I would assume that you want to be a little bit more balanced in that again.
00:23:53
Tom Brady back end of his career, not the same guy who was five years ago.
00:23:57
Whatever the case may be still capable of moving the ball through the air, obviously, and then the other little thing there, too, is.
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Remember, we said 6.
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2 yards per carry for Jones, Tom Brady's average per completion with 6.
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2 yards.
00:24:08
So that's on the lower end of the spectrum.
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League averages closer to eight plus per pass completion.
00:24:13
So you're talking about getting the same relative value, but your But your point is, of course, understood, right? Well, okay, let's we'll run the ball 10 more times.
00:24:22
And that's not gonna be the case, but running 10 more times.
00:24:24
The defense is going to tee off at least three or four of those.
00:24:27
And all of a sudden those numbers can look a little bit different from the rushing attack, right? Yeah, I just want to say it outside of, say, the Baltimore Ravens, who, you know, have the quarterback that wants to run the ball all the time as well.
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A run heavy team generally will have a percentage of 60 past 40 run or 65 Oh, are 55 45.
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That's that's about as high as it'll ever be.
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But generally it's a 60 40% wise, um, to your point, your we're looking at a 66 33 for the Tampa, which is still, um, that's about where you would think that a Tom Brady led team would be running the football because they would want to lean a little bit mawr on the past.
00:25:20
But yeah, to to your point, if it's not broke, don't fix it right and listen.
00:25:26
You know, for Net was active but not utilized so again, depleted in a lot of areas.
00:25:30
So if he is available, that may make things look different as well for Tampa Bay and how they approach it and were, Really you're splitting hairs.
00:25:36
About three or four plays difference one side of the other.
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Pass or run.
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So you know, we're getting into a little bit of the weeds on it as far as that goes.
00:25:42
But when you lose a game 22 19 when you were up 13 nothing.
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These are the things you start to look at.
00:25:48
Let's let's go ahead and start to wrap ourselves up here by thinking about both of these teams going forward.
00:25:53
Tampa Bay obviously drops that game there.
00:25:56
Three and two.
00:25:57
Now, when you look out there in the south of ST, we're gonna play this weekend, they can effectively tie themselves the top of the vision Panthers, or maybe surprisingly, two and two.
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And the Falcons air a Dumpster fire.
00:26:08
Do you from the buccaneer standpoint, Is this okay? Dropping this game? You're three and two early season, early season.
00:26:15
But by the mid way point of this year, I feel like the Tampa Bay Buccaneers would sign up for Would you like to be, You know, five and three, probably.
00:26:25
But even if you were four and four at the midway point of the season, I think you're okay with it because you anticipate things getting better and finding more rhythm.
00:26:32
And now, saying and getting more healthy, right and the you got the defensive side of the ball new system that they started last year finding that rhythm as well.
00:26:41
I think that this team is going to be stronger on the back end of the year.
00:26:44
Is there any concerns that they wanna look at as they work through the next couple of weeks? Are they in a comfortable spot in the NFC South there? I think the only concern, in my opinion, if if I was Bruce Arians was I would be for the middle part of the season.
00:27:01
I would try to run the ball a little bit more to say Brady's arm strength for the later into the season because losing to the Bears is no big deal.
00:27:09
How often are you going to come across the team that's got the Bears defense, right? I mean, you're not gonna get, especially in their division.
00:27:16
Uh, the Saints are probably the better of the defense's, and they don't have the Bears defense.
00:27:23
Um, so I'm not too worried about it.
00:27:27
They came into against a good, very good defense depleted because a lot of their offensive weapons or hurt that that they will get back in short order.
00:27:36
I don't have any issue with it, is all at all.
00:27:39
I just think they need to run the ball a little bit.
00:27:40
They've got so much weapons at the running back position, they just need to get him healthy and ready to play.
00:27:46
I think they need to utilize that a little bit.
00:27:48
Mawr let Brady throw the little short passes more often.
00:27:52
Little, little quick check downs.
00:27:53
Um uh, two is running backs to his tight ends. Things like that.
00:27:58
Don't worry about going over the top with with Mike Evans all the time.
00:28:01
Don't worry about going after Chris Godwin so much deep.
00:28:05
You know, when he comes back, they say that arm strength.
00:28:09
Yeah.
00:28:10
No, I think you're right to right.
00:28:11
This is about the long haul for them and keeping Tom Brady fresh for what you assume is a playoff push and supplemental E Green Bay next week for them Las Vegas and then the New York Giants.
00:28:20
You know, I think no matter how you want to slice that, you look at that and say, two out of three are very winnable.
00:28:24
Obviously, maybe, and Green Bay probably is the most difficult challenge you're going to face.
00:28:28
Those next two weeks aren't dissimilar teams that can move the ball.
00:28:31
You know, middle of the pack kind of defense is so they can turn around here a three and two.
00:28:36
They can be sitting there five and three and three weeks and feeling really good as they head into divisional match ups with the Saints and with the Carolina Panthers.
00:28:44
So I think that they're in a good spot and you feel comfortable around it when you flip it over to Chicago side.
00:28:49
Obviously, the switch to Nick Foles now he gets to full games here.
00:28:53
Andi.
00:28:54
They get two wins, so you know you gotta feel good.
00:28:56
All right, Come with loss. I apologize.
00:28:58
Come off.
00:28:59
The loss against the Colts were in the post game.
00:29:01
The Bears and Nagy treated it like they had won.
00:29:03
They felt good, just having falls on the field as opposed to Travis Key.
00:29:06
Now they get follows, his first win under center there in a much different spot.
00:29:11
When you think about that division Green Bay playing very strong football right now out of the gate.
00:29:16
So that's certainly a question mark for them.
00:29:18
Needing Thio Maintain wins.
00:29:20
Find a way to continue this rhythm as they move forward.
00:29:22
My big concern, if I'm gonna look at them, is again I mentioned in the pregame last night.
00:29:27
David Montgomery 10 carries for 29 yards, 2.
00:29:30
9 average along of seven, even though he was involved in the receiving game with seven receptions, it was for 30 yards that to me, with this great defense, that's the big concern for me.
00:29:42
For them, they're gonna have to find a way to find some consistency without to Rico in now in the backfield as well. Montgomery.
00:29:49
This goes now two full years.
00:29:50
You're in the second year now, where he has been okay to mildly disappointing.
00:29:56
I have concerns about that run game supporting Nick Foles in this passing attack because I don't think you can go week to week with Nick Foles in the up and down performances and expect to win more games than not.
00:30:07
How do you feel about them right now as they look ahead at now? Nice record at four and one.
00:30:13
All right, So the first thing that I would be worried about, I'm not as worried about the run game as what you are.
00:30:19
Before they came into the Colts game, they were eighth in the NFL in rushing, and then they ran across the number one defense in the NFL, and they were number four in Rush defense.
00:30:32
And then Tampa Bay's like number two, I think, rush defense in the NFL.
00:30:37
So I mean, they came across two very solid run.
00:30:40
Defense is right.
00:30:41
The and the Colts only gave up 27 total yards.
00:30:45
I think rushing and that's not that was Besides, uh, the they're main running back Montgomery.
00:30:53
I think it is.
00:30:54
Right, uh, running the football.
00:30:57
I think they do need tohave a little bit.
00:31:01
Mawr work there? Yeah.
00:31:06
The problem is, I don't think they're using his speed enough.
00:31:11
You're right that they're running him right up the gut too much, and he's being tackled too easy.
00:31:16
You need to use him a little bit different.
00:31:18
You need to get him in kind of a zone blocking out in space so he could pick his holes rather than, you know, power blocking up front.
00:31:27
Which is what? I'm seeing a lot from the Chicago Bears right now.
00:31:30
So they might think about adjusting that that blocking scheme.
00:31:34
Another thing that I'm I'm a little worried about what the Bears is there run defense.
00:31:39
Their run defense is not very good.
00:31:42
They got a great pass rush and great secondary to stop the stop the past, I think against the teams like the Saints.
00:31:52
I think they will match up very well against the Saints because they love to pass the football.
00:31:58
And, uh, Kamara is one of those running backs that likes to take it outside rather than up the gut and they have a lot of speed out there, and I think they do well against that.
00:32:10
It's the runs right up the gut that really hurts Chicago, and they need to find a way to kind of plug that hole.
00:32:18
That that that missing piece where Eddie Goldman is missing.
00:32:23
Outside of that, I think they'll be fine.
00:32:25
You take your highs, you take your clothes with holes.
00:32:27
You know he's gonna have ups and downs.
00:32:30
We already talked about it throughout throughout the game.
00:32:33
It's not like he's gonna be terrible the entire game or great an entire game.
00:32:38
He's gonna have a quarter where he's great, a quarter where he's bad, a quarter where he's great, a quarter where he's bad.
00:32:43
So as long as he doesn't turn the ball over, that's the big deal.
00:32:47
He can't turn the football over.
00:32:49
Yeah, and what the defense like that.
00:32:51
You can live with some of those hits and misses throughout the course of the game.
00:32:55
They're going to have the Carolina Panthers followed by the Rams, followed by the Saints over the next three games.
00:33:01
So any questions that we have about them against higher level competition or teams that we feel pretty good about.
00:33:07
You're going to start to see that.
00:33:08
I think the next three games competitive.
00:33:09
Carolina Rams had an off game you could say against the Giants, but they're expected to be in the mix by the end of the year.
00:33:15
So you know the sample sizes you move towards the mid point of their season as well.
00:33:19
That will be the eight game mark.
00:33:21
We'll see, right? Are they falling back to the pack and closer to 500? But if they can come out of it right now again with his extra wild card spot, just five games in your you have to feel really good from from a Chicago standpoint is saying, Hey, guess what? We're in line to get back to the playoffs this year.
00:33:36
And, unlike, say, the NFC West, where you could end up really pummeling each other over the course of the season, it feels like you're separating yourself out with the Green Bay Packers.
00:33:45
Collect your winds, especially in some of the easier matchups in your division, and say hello to the playoffs in 2020 so that could be really good for the Chicago Bears as they move on from Travis Key and maybe push the pause button on what the long term plans are at the quarterback position.
00:33:59
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Bears coach Matt Nagy on Nick Foles’ Week 5 performance – ‘that’s who he is’

It wasn’t a pretty performance by Chicago Bears quarterback Nick Foles on Thursday, as they scrapped through a victory against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 20-19. Foles struggled early in the contest, but ultimately stepped it up in crunch time to lead his team to a tightly-contested victory. After the game, Bears head coach Matt Nagy […]

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mhm.
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And with that, we officially welcome you into SportsCastr news covering all things NFL.
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We're joined by Laurence Owen.
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I am Adam Arm Brecht breaking down what we saw on Thursday night between the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the upstart the surprising Chicago Bears.
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How are you on a Thursday? Friday morning.
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Excuse me, Lawrence, How are you this morning? I'm doing pretty good, man.
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I'll like what 90% of my predictions from last night's game came true.
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So I'm all good about it.
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Way have had a couple.
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You know, we've had some hits and misses along the early days of Thursday night football that we've done with our previous and the reviews.
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But this was a good one.
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We, in spite of some people calling, maybe firm or of the shootout.
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We really thought the under made a lot of sense in this matchup.
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We thought that it would stay tight longer and later, and you actually went with you went straight up thinking that the bears could take this one.
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I took those points so worked out for both of us.
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But you saw the possibility of this defense making things difficult for a dinged up. Little bit depleted.
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Ah, Tampa Bay Buccaneers offense.
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Oh, yeah, yeah.
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I mean, you coming into this knowing that, uh, they're down, they're they're starting tight end there down there.
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Number two, wide receiver.
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You know they're down.
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Leonard for net.
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You know, their offensive line is not the best in the NFL.
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Tom Brady does not move very well.
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You know, when it comes to pressure.
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And from what I saw of that Chicago defense when they played Indianapolis on Sunday, they are just a very aggressive defense.
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And Chuck Pagano does a great job of doing second half adjustments, adjusting where his pressure is coming from, as opposed to where the protection schemes is so that he get that pressure on the quarterback and that man, that second half Tom Brady.
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Tom Brady was mawr trying to protect his own body than finding open receivers.
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Well, listen that you mentioned it.
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The adjustments right, because early in this one, it really favored Tampa Bay, and it was an odd start to this game in a lot of ways, because Tampa Bay comes out, they really control things Now.
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One of the misses that I had was thinking that we could have saw the slot receiver bubble up for them a little bit more instead.
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Really, Tampa Bay just goes with the random cast of characters you don't even hear from Mike Evans very early in this game for them.
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They work their way through the running game, but the tempo is nice.
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They're keeping Chicago back on their heels.
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You're keeping Tom Brady upright.
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They have a 13 nothing lead.
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And yet, you know as well get into what Nick Foles did here.
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But what did you like about that early Temple for Tampa Bay? What did you like? How they mitigated? Ah, healthy getting healthy Chicago Bears defense.
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That's what they weren't early in this season.
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Now they're getting a lot of their weapons back.
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But Tampa Bay was able to do it.
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They were able to keep them back off their heels and give Tom Brady time to find a lot of receivers.
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Yeah, it's actually pretty impressive, because if you think about it generally, the early onset is, uh, the defense usually has, you know, the upper hand at the beginning of the game, whereas the offense they have to make their adjustments toe what the defense is doing to you, and it was the complete opposite.
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You saw Brady and this offense and Bruce Arians play calling and everything.
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They were dictating the flow early on, especially with the run game, and Jones was just eating them alive on the ground, and the Bears had no answer for it.
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Um uh, the this shows to me that when Eddie Goldman, the defensive tackle for the Bears when he decided to opt out, the Bears have not found anyone nowhere near ready Goldman's abilities to be able to fill in for that spot.
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Because last year, when they had Eddie Goldman and the rest of the team that you see, they had a very good stout run defense and the loss of Eddie Goldman just really hurt him.
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Tampa Bay knew that, and they just ran it right down their throats and then used to play action off of that.
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Yeah, a lot of between the tackle runs for for the for Jones and Tampa Bay there And, like you say when you lose a player like that to an opt out, especially listen. Cleo.
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Max still had a great game, but it changes what he's able to solely focus on on what his function is in the defense.
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Now, you need to ask him to do multiple things, and it pulls him away from being a pure guy, getting around that edge.
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Which, by the way, I'm just gonna sidebar here real quick before I get into some of those receiving numbers.
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I know that he was off balance, but I think it was Christian worse.
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After one of those plays on Tom Brady, he was still hand checking and Khalil Mack Arm, bar, body slammed him.
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I don't care if he was off balance or not.
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He was off of his feet and out of the ground.
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I could not believe that.
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I mean, just sure strength of Mac to pick up what must be a near £300 offensive lineman.
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It was like, Yeah, thanks, buddy.
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Yeah, he's the big one, right? Yeah, like, excuse me, sir.
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So that was just a ah fun.
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Take a step back and realize the physical specimen that is the NFL players.
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So, um, to the point, though, about the offense is well, Tom Brady finds eight different receivers.
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Nobody had more than four catches.
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Tyler Johnson was actually the high man, and he did some of that work early in this game early in the first quarter.
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There in those first couple of drives, but nobody eclipse 61 yards again.
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Tyler Johnson, the high man there, so spread the ball around effectively.
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But Mike Evans, who only got 41 yards in this one, had the touchdown, but his injuries came in a little bit.
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Dinged up certainly made it different, just in terms of of where the offense looked to go had to be more methodical, as opposed to explosive, which is what we expect from this Tampa Bay offense when 100% healthy on the other side of the ball, you're down 13 nothing.
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It feels like things are going away from what we assumed our predictions would be coming into this game, and then it is the two sides of the coin that is Mr Nicholas fulls.
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And as Matt Nagy said in the post game, when asked about you, what do you expect? This is what you think you get from Nick Foles, he said.
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That's who he is.
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All in all, the offense made plays when it has to, and I think that's one of the special special traits that Nick has and that really speaks. Thio.
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He goes seven of seven in that second quarter, driving down the field to get the Chicago Bears back into this game from the initial start of this one toe where it looked at halftime.
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Is that exactly what you expected from Nick's folds? Or were you at least surprised in Mawr terms off, If it starts bad, it could stay bad, and he really was able to turn it around and get back on track.
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It felt like maybe this thing was going to be a disaster for them, and it was going to be Nick Foles missed Robiskie.
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Who cares? It's a problem, right? Actually, with Nick Foles, I kind of, you know, the whole yin yang that you got right there or you got Yin Tang.
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But that's all right.
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You could go.
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Sometimes he hits the upper stratosphere.
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That is Nick Foles performances.
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Well, I mean, he's one of those guys that he could have a three and out with really bad passes, one drive and then the next Dr Drop Five beautiful, perfect passes.
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And you're gonna get that throughout the game.
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You're gonna get three or four really good drives where he is dead on point and making outstanding, fantastic plays that play where he scrambled out of the backfield in the second half and was ableto create some space where you thought, you know, this is more of a mixed Robiskie.
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Look on what you would expect from him, whereas fools was doing it.
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And then through a dime downfield for a great play.
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You get that from him? Everything about three or four drives the game expecting it.
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You know what you're going to get from him on that level.
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But then on the flip side, yes, you're gonna have three or 43 announce from them as well.
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You know, you know that he's going to go for those chunk yards.
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Um, whenever he's out there, he's Look, he's not looking for the check down.
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First, he's looking for that deep ball first and foremost, and then he works his way back, which, you know a lot of quarterback, a lot of offensive players in NFL fans.
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That's what they want, especially in today's NFL.
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You know you want that offensive.
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If it's a defensive game like this, you call it ugly, Sloppy.
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You call it boring, you know, to a lot of people, Whereas me, obviously, I'm a defense guy.
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I love defense, but this is still a very sloppy offensive play game.
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Um, Nick polls.
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You know what you got? You hired him.
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You made him the starter.
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And you know, that's that's what you gotta ride with.
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You know what you have? You ride with what you have in some ways over on the MBA side of things with the finals that will go on tonight.
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You know, Jimmy gonna bucket, You know, Jimmy, Jimmy, You know, talk about Jimmy Butler.
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He's gonna get his buckets.
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Nick Gonna falls, man.
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You know what this guy is going to do for you? You just gotta hope you get more of the good than the bad and your point.
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He wants to hit those big plays he missed early in this game.
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Some very easy pick up a first down to Alan Robinson near the sideline.
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And you thought, Can this guy throw the ball seven yards on an out route because he was missing him five yards at a band like he could not seem to hit him, missing guys on similar media passes as well.
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And then all of the sudden, he starts to roll.
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He finds his rhythm, and I think that that's the risk reward.
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When you talk about Chicago making this switch, you when? When you talk about mixed Robiskie, what you're hoping is play average and don't and don't fall below it.
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You don't think there's any room for sealing in a given game with Nick Foles? I would say, probably even his baseline is better than the best of what Mitchell Trotsky is, but you'll take a couple of ugly passes here and there because you know he can find this rhythm.
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He can move the offense.
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And that's something that Robiskie hasn't shown the same level off consistency around a great piece that we talked about, two highlighting it.
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You mentioned a couple of the areas that we thought they could attack Tampa Bay offensively was going to possibly be.
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I mentioned Alan Robinson.
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Being a key cog 10 for 90 really was, of course, the staple.
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The true number one continued to prove that in this game, but you throughout Jimmy Graham.
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And even though Onley quote unquote three for 33 had a great over the top Little Cherry pick that ball from the defender in the end zone.
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And that was hand.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, I demonstrate that in the wrong way.
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Like this.
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It was kind of around the back and grab it and pull it in.
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Very athletic, very consistent play from Jimmy Graham early in this season for Chicago, and he's found a nice home here.
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You know, it looked like in Green Bay in Seattle.
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What's going on with this guy? You know, why can't you find this rhythm? But I think that you actually kind of need, Even though you look at Jimmy Graham is as a really athletic tight end.
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He's not a burner.
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He's not a speedster, right? So what you need is a nice, methodical offense where he can pick his spots to get utilized.
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And that's what Chicago has.
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So when Nick Foles looks to him on that end zone play, it's a beauty, you know, it's just Hey, go or go earn this jump all out there and he does that for you.
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So they did the thing consistently that we expected, I think, on the offensive side.
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But we'll touch on the outlook for Chicago and some of the issues.
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I think they have going forward.
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But you mentioned it before, sloppy on both sides of the ball.
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Offensively, to a lot of the extent sloppy on the defensive side of the ball, 10 penalties for 120 yards for Tampa Bay.
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I'm not even sure where Chicago stood, actually in their final total, but just a really sloppy game all across the field and coming into it.
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These are some of the more penalized teams in the league as I try to get a look here at those penalties.
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Six for 66 for Chicago.
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So not terrible, but just, you know, false starts, encroachment penalties, roughing the passer penalties.
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Is it difficulty when you think you're looking at two quality teams in the NFL? Like I know from a job now you're you're Cold Sky.
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As a Giants fan, it's hard to watch teams play sloppy ball.
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I said it over on social media told you before we started.
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That's 2.
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5 games worth of penalties for the New York football Giants.
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Right now, No. 1 14.
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I feel like we deserve a win just based on playing clean football.
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Is that Is that frustrating? Just from a fan perspective, Toe watch games like that, we're really slows down the pacing and the excitement of the game, right? Well, um, it depends.
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Uh, if a lot of your penalties are those, like simple holding penalties or pass interference penalties, those happened almost every play of every game.
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It just depends upon referees on whether they're calling them or not.
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Now, on that play, that was like third and long.
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Khalil Mack Sacks Tom Brady in the backfield should be ready for a punt, but instead he actually he has him wrapped up.
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The whistle's blown.
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He's supposed to let him go.
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Instead, he picks him up in body slams it.
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Okay, that's a guy that is, that is the kind of stuff that, as a fan, as a coach, even as a player, you look at and go.
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What the heck You know I get you want to get your shots in on the guy, but you gotta play clean and you can't put your team in a detrimental situation when you knew you had this guy getting ready to have to punt the football.
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And now you give them a shot to continue to drive and and go down and score.
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And it's things like that, those kind of place that just frustrate the heck out of not just me, but I mean, if you I'm sure you've seen that multiple times.
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I've seen it with the Colts.
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I've seen it with other teams, not as much with the Colts.
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The Colts are one of those teams, as your team is, you know, very steadfast in and what they do.
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And then when you do see one, like I've seen penalties from Darius Leonard, where he's knocking someone out of bounds and they say, You know, um, personal foul, you know, unnecessary roughness.
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And I'm just looking at it going.
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He was hitting him.
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He was still in bounds.
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He was hitting him, putting them out of bounds that that don't seem.
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But now, if they were already out of bounds, that's something different.
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But, uh, sometimes those rats, those air delicate to write those delicate things where you go well, he's technically giving himself up.
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You want your guy to be smarter, but football is played such a fast.
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You know, it's hard to say now break down your tackle and just go ahead and give him a little touch.
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So he steps out, you know, gently.
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Or if a quarterback is scrambling and rushing for yards and the defenders coming in to hit him.
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And then at the last second the quarterback slides.
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And then there's contact.
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And then, you know, unnecessary roughness is called and you look at it and go, well, speed of the game that shouldn't have been called blah, blah, blah.
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And then.
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But if you're on the other team, you're like, Where's the flag? You know eso it, Really? It has a lot to do with perspective.
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It also has a lot to do with the referees.
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You know, game.
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How are they feeling? Yeah, now, when we mentioned one of the last footnote about Khalil Mack, I think in this one to me is usually a lot of times those those personal foul penalties roughing the passer penalties.
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A lot of times come because you're not getting home right.
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It's the ***ulative effect of feeling like you're getting close, but you're not quite getting there.
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Then when you finally do, it's like the release of all of that of all of that energy when you go inside a stat line.
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By the way, though, had a phenomenal game.
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Two sacks had a pass deflection had three Q B hits.
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So for a veteran, you really want him to take that step back and understand the situation.
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Understand, your defense is playing high level at that point, and you're about to get the ball back, and instead you give a fresh set of downs.
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And in a lot of ways, even though only six penalties Ah, lot of the ones for Chicago were in crucial spots were extended drives and kept Tampa Bay closer in this one after having 13 points in the first half, just six in the second half.
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So really kept this game a little bit closer than it probably needed to be.
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Speaking off Tom Brady.
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Uh, there's some things to unpack here for him, including on the last the final sequence.
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I will start here with the, uh, Tom not so terrific accounting, you know, it looked like he wanted to take advantage of getting back up to the line quickly against this Bears defense.
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He went for a big shot there, didn't convert it and then spent a lot of time kind of wandering around the field wondering why I don't get my fourth down play.
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It's because that was your third.
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Downplay your on fourth down or you know you're on fourth down there.
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Excuse me, the game is over.
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You've turned the ball over almost shocking to see someone like Tom Brady, who was so meticulous in the details, just completely lose track of the Downs there and go for a big chunk play when you had chances.
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The third downplay.
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He did the same thing, right? He thought that he's gonna have a couple of plays.
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So on third down he goes for the big chunk shot, thinking it's second down and then it trickles back.
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All of a sudden, they turned it over, Uh, surprised by that and then also just surprised in general about some of his hits and misses over the course of this game as a whole.
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All right, so hey did look like he was running around afterwards and it looked like he was, you know, thinking, Well, I still gotta down left, don't I, um, Bruce Arians, after the game, stated that Brady knew that it was forced down.
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So it's either a.
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We all got it wrong.
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And maybe he was thinking, Where's my pass interference penalty on that play? Because that was a very close, you know, coverage on that situation.
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Or be Bruce Arian was really trying to cover for Tom Brady.
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Um either way, let's, let's say, let's say Tom Brady thought it waas Onley third down.
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At that point, that will be two games inside of a week where a veteran quarterback made a massive mistake.
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Tom Brady thinking that.
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And then you go back to Brian Hoyer on the Patriots who thought he still had a time out.
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You know, at the end of the game and you're like, What in the world? You know, veteran quarterbacks are making massive mistakes right now and and you don't see that hit that often, let alone twice in in a single week.
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Tom Brady Earlier we talked about this, Um, they're the hits and misses, right? There were times when he was throwing darts and and hitting this guy's dead on.
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And there was very few times when Mike Evans was open in this game very few times, like wide open.
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Ah, lot of times it was he was throwing it to a place where only Mike Evans can't get it, because Mike Evans, like, 10 ft three and, you know, it could just be like mine.
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Um, but there was a play where Evans went on a go route.
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He put a little move on.
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I believe I can't remember.
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Was it busters? Crimes, I think.
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May I think so.
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I put a little a little hits move on him and then and then lost him. Bond.
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He was wide open 50 yards downfield.
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Brady unl EU Watch it.
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He put everything he had into that football, and it's still dropped five yards behind Evans.
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It actually hit the ground behind the defender, who was two yards behind Evans and Evans was wide open.
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Easy touchdown.
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But it is very apparent.
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Brady doesn't have the arm strength he used to have.
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He was never he never had a cannon in his career.
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You never looked at him and go, That's a Cam Newton or Brett Farve, Cannon right, but he had enough arm strength to to throw those 50 yard bombs.
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And this time, even with that way up in the air ball with everything he had to, he was able to step into it everything and completely just dropped it right behind the receiver.
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And I know firsthand going back to the potentially undefeated season against the New York football Giants.
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Randy Moss had us.
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He had that step down that sideline, and that's Super Bowl.
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If you put it out in front of him, he's gonna get there.
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Now that that was, you're talking about a 65 70 yards through the air kind of past.
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But to your point, when those big plays air available for Tom Brady over his career, it's usually I uncork it.
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And by the way, I give it everything I have.
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And I'm pretty good at putting it a nice placement.
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So it's a combination, and you can live with that.
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You don't have to have the biggest arm.
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Ton of quarterbacks are great at this.
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Drew Brees doesn't have the biggest arm, but he finds a way to give himself some space and create a launch angle to get that thing down field in a game like this, and in general, when you have those big opportunities earlier, I want to stay in the third quarter.
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Maybe had an opportunity to get Gronkowski through through it high, which is fine, but also got a little bit behind Gronkowski.
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You know that he's not the same player he once was.
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So you gotta get it into his bread basket a couple of times.
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And the other thing, so you know, it's inconsistent a little bit.
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I'll touch back quickly to the to the fourth down play.
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The reason why I know Bruce Arians.
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It's a couple things.
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Two weeks ago, he came out really criticized Tom Brady.
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Then the following week, though, stopped all that nonsense.
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Understand? He needs to support Tom Brady in the postgame press conferences, so you know you're going to support him.
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But Tom Brady was standing on the field doing this, showing four fingers to the referees, saying, Isn't it fourth down? Isn't it fourth down? So he lost track of it.
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I'm not gonna beat him up over, but that's what the reality was.
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Bruce Arians look ends up looking a little bit silly, going the extra mile in the post game. Overall.
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In this one, though, when you talk about so few catches for Evan Ingram dinged up, spread the ball around pretty well.
00:21:04
I go back and I look at that running game and I just start toe Wonder.
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You know Ronald Jones.
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You mentioned it having great success in between the tackles.
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He ran for 106 yards, 6.
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2 clip with a long of 37.
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Even take that off the board.
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He's still sitting there healthily at 60 plus yards on 17 carries.
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I'm a little surprised that you didn't lean into that mawr, especially considering the lack of weapons.
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The players you're missing. No Godwin in this one.
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It's like a footnote.
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It almost feels like cause you've been out for a few weeks, but you don't have the same weapons you anticipate.
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Maybe to your point as well, tricky when you don't know if you can get some of these big plays to a Mike Evans.
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Were you surprised they didn't lean heavily? I mean, 23 carries 24 carries for the running game.
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It feels like that could have been a nice differences staying on the field, especially as you felt that mo mentum shifting in the direction of Chicago right in the football is tricky, especially against defense is that can stop it when they need to.
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Um, if you put too many rushes in, then you end up tipping the hat off to the defense.
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I like I actually etcetera.
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Yes, I do like the amount of times they ran the football, because that allows the play action the work.
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And it also allows the running game to still gain positive yardage.
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Um, like like I'm saying, if they ran it 24 times and they took say, ah, bunch of temps off of them it was a close game at in the second half close.
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Get all the way down there was like, You know, one person has a lead.
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Next person has a lead.
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So they were expecting Bears were probably expecting a run quite a bit.
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There was quite a few times where Jones would get the ball and get hit in the back field and dropped, and then and then that would happen a couple times.
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Then you would see him break off a 10 yard run.
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That was just like, Man, he just broke eight tackles getting that, you know, 10 yards.
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Um, I think that they wanted to keep more of a balance of of the ball so that they weren't tipping their hat one way or another in the second half so that they would have that weapon on both the past and the run.
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And I get that.
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Which is really weird talking about Tom Brady and Bruce Arians at the helm of the football team, where they're trying to keep a balance with the run game.
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Yeah, it's interesting, because again, you go inside those stats.
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It's 41 pass attempts for Tom Brady, the 17 Russia's Brady scrambled or had got credited with three carry.
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So if you put it a 20 carries for the game, you're talking about a 2 to 1 ratio.
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I just I would assume that you want to be a little bit more balanced in that again.
00:23:53
Tom Brady back end of his career, not the same guy who was five years ago.
00:23:57
Whatever the case may be still capable of moving the ball through the air, obviously, and then the other little thing there, too, is.
00:24:02
Remember, we said 6.
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2 yards per carry for Jones, Tom Brady's average per completion with 6.
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2 yards.
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So that's on the lower end of the spectrum.
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League averages closer to eight plus per pass completion.
00:24:13
So you're talking about getting the same relative value, but your But your point is, of course, understood, right? Well, okay, let's we'll run the ball 10 more times.
00:24:22
And that's not gonna be the case, but running 10 more times.
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The defense is going to tee off at least three or four of those.
00:24:27
And all of a sudden those numbers can look a little bit different from the rushing attack, right? Yeah, I just want to say it outside of, say, the Baltimore Ravens, who, you know, have the quarterback that wants to run the ball all the time as well.
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A run heavy team generally will have a percentage of 60 past 40 run or 65 Oh, are 55 45.
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That's that's about as high as it'll ever be.
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But generally it's a 60 40% wise, um, to your point, your we're looking at a 66 33 for the Tampa, which is still, um, that's about where you would think that a Tom Brady led team would be running the football because they would want to lean a little bit mawr on the past.
00:25:20
But yeah, to to your point, if it's not broke, don't fix it right and listen.
00:25:26
You know, for Net was active but not utilized so again, depleted in a lot of areas.
00:25:30
So if he is available, that may make things look different as well for Tampa Bay and how they approach it and were, Really you're splitting hairs.
00:25:36
About three or four plays difference one side of the other.
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Pass or run.
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So you know, we're getting into a little bit of the weeds on it as far as that goes.
00:25:42
But when you lose a game 22 19 when you were up 13 nothing.
00:25:46
These are the things you start to look at.
00:25:48
Let's let's go ahead and start to wrap ourselves up here by thinking about both of these teams going forward.
00:25:53
Tampa Bay obviously drops that game there.
00:25:56
Three and two.
00:25:57
Now, when you look out there in the south of ST, we're gonna play this weekend, they can effectively tie themselves the top of the vision Panthers, or maybe surprisingly, two and two.
00:26:06
And the Falcons air a Dumpster fire.
00:26:08
Do you from the buccaneer standpoint, Is this okay? Dropping this game? You're three and two early season, early season.
00:26:15
But by the mid way point of this year, I feel like the Tampa Bay Buccaneers would sign up for Would you like to be, You know, five and three, probably.
00:26:25
But even if you were four and four at the midway point of the season, I think you're okay with it because you anticipate things getting better and finding more rhythm.
00:26:32
And now, saying and getting more healthy, right and the you got the defensive side of the ball new system that they started last year finding that rhythm as well.
00:26:41
I think that this team is going to be stronger on the back end of the year.
00:26:44
Is there any concerns that they wanna look at as they work through the next couple of weeks? Are they in a comfortable spot in the NFC South there? I think the only concern, in my opinion, if if I was Bruce Arians was I would be for the middle part of the season.
00:27:01
I would try to run the ball a little bit more to say Brady's arm strength for the later into the season because losing to the Bears is no big deal.
00:27:09
How often are you going to come across the team that's got the Bears defense, right? I mean, you're not gonna get, especially in their division.
00:27:16
Uh, the Saints are probably the better of the defense's, and they don't have the Bears defense.
00:27:23
Um, so I'm not too worried about it.
00:27:27
They came into against a good, very good defense depleted because a lot of their offensive weapons or hurt that that they will get back in short order.
00:27:36
I don't have any issue with it, is all at all.
00:27:39
I just think they need to run the ball a little bit.
00:27:40
They've got so much weapons at the running back position, they just need to get him healthy and ready to play.
00:27:46
I think they need to utilize that a little bit.
00:27:48
Mawr let Brady throw the little short passes more often.
00:27:52
Little, little quick check downs.
00:27:53
Um uh, two is running backs to his tight ends. Things like that.
00:27:58
Don't worry about going over the top with with Mike Evans all the time.
00:28:01
Don't worry about going after Chris Godwin so much deep.
00:28:05
You know, when he comes back, they say that arm strength.
00:28:09
Yeah.
00:28:10
No, I think you're right to right.
00:28:11
This is about the long haul for them and keeping Tom Brady fresh for what you assume is a playoff push and supplemental E Green Bay next week for them Las Vegas and then the New York Giants.
00:28:20
You know, I think no matter how you want to slice that, you look at that and say, two out of three are very winnable.
00:28:24
Obviously, maybe, and Green Bay probably is the most difficult challenge you're going to face.
00:28:28
Those next two weeks aren't dissimilar teams that can move the ball.
00:28:31
You know, middle of the pack kind of defense is so they can turn around here a three and two.
00:28:36
They can be sitting there five and three and three weeks and feeling really good as they head into divisional match ups with the Saints and with the Carolina Panthers.
00:28:44
So I think that they're in a good spot and you feel comfortable around it when you flip it over to Chicago side.
00:28:49
Obviously, the switch to Nick Foles now he gets to full games here.
00:28:53
Andi.
00:28:54
They get two wins, so you know you gotta feel good.
00:28:56
All right, Come with loss. I apologize.
00:28:58
Come off.
00:28:59
The loss against the Colts were in the post game.
00:29:01
The Bears and Nagy treated it like they had won.
00:29:03
They felt good, just having falls on the field as opposed to Travis Key.
00:29:06
Now they get follows, his first win under center there in a much different spot.
00:29:11
When you think about that division Green Bay playing very strong football right now out of the gate.
00:29:16
So that's certainly a question mark for them.
00:29:18
Needing Thio Maintain wins.
00:29:20
Find a way to continue this rhythm as they move forward.
00:29:22
My big concern, if I'm gonna look at them, is again I mentioned in the pregame last night.
00:29:27
David Montgomery 10 carries for 29 yards, 2.
00:29:30
9 average along of seven, even though he was involved in the receiving game with seven receptions, it was for 30 yards that to me, with this great defense, that's the big concern for me.
00:29:42
For them, they're gonna have to find a way to find some consistency without to Rico in now in the backfield as well. Montgomery.
00:29:49
This goes now two full years.
00:29:50
You're in the second year now, where he has been okay to mildly disappointing.
00:29:56
I have concerns about that run game supporting Nick Foles in this passing attack because I don't think you can go week to week with Nick Foles in the up and down performances and expect to win more games than not.
00:30:07
How do you feel about them right now as they look ahead at now? Nice record at four and one.
00:30:13
All right, So the first thing that I would be worried about, I'm not as worried about the run game as what you are.
00:30:19
Before they came into the Colts game, they were eighth in the NFL in rushing, and then they ran across the number one defense in the NFL, and they were number four in Rush defense.
00:30:32
And then Tampa Bay's like number two, I think, rush defense in the NFL.
00:30:37
So I mean, they came across two very solid run.
00:30:40
Defense is right.
00:30:41
The and the Colts only gave up 27 total yards.
00:30:45
I think rushing and that's not that was Besides, uh, the they're main running back Montgomery.
00:30:53
I think it is.
00:30:54
Right, uh, running the football.
00:30:57
I think they do need tohave a little bit.
00:31:01
Mawr work there? Yeah.
00:31:06
The problem is, I don't think they're using his speed enough.
00:31:11
You're right that they're running him right up the gut too much, and he's being tackled too easy.
00:31:16
You need to use him a little bit different.
00:31:18
You need to get him in kind of a zone blocking out in space so he could pick his holes rather than, you know, power blocking up front.
00:31:27
Which is what? I'm seeing a lot from the Chicago Bears right now.
00:31:30
So they might think about adjusting that that blocking scheme.
00:31:34
Another thing that I'm I'm a little worried about what the Bears is there run defense.
00:31:39
Their run defense is not very good.
00:31:42
They got a great pass rush and great secondary to stop the stop the past, I think against the teams like the Saints.
00:31:52
I think they will match up very well against the Saints because they love to pass the football.
00:31:58
And, uh, Kamara is one of those running backs that likes to take it outside rather than up the gut and they have a lot of speed out there, and I think they do well against that.
00:32:10
It's the runs right up the gut that really hurts Chicago, and they need to find a way to kind of plug that hole.
00:32:18
That that that missing piece where Eddie Goldman is missing.
00:32:23
Outside of that, I think they'll be fine.
00:32:25
You take your highs, you take your clothes with holes.
00:32:27
You know he's gonna have ups and downs.
00:32:30
We already talked about it throughout throughout the game.
00:32:33
It's not like he's gonna be terrible the entire game or great an entire game.
00:32:38
He's gonna have a quarter where he's great, a quarter where he's bad, a quarter where he's great, a quarter where he's bad.
00:32:43
So as long as he doesn't turn the ball over, that's the big deal.
00:32:47
He can't turn the football over.
00:32:49
Yeah, and what the defense like that.
00:32:51
You can live with some of those hits and misses throughout the course of the game.
00:32:55
They're going to have the Carolina Panthers followed by the Rams, followed by the Saints over the next three games.
00:33:01
So any questions that we have about them against higher level competition or teams that we feel pretty good about.
00:33:07
You're going to start to see that.
00:33:08
I think the next three games competitive.
00:33:09
Carolina Rams had an off game you could say against the Giants, but they're expected to be in the mix by the end of the year.
00:33:15
So you know the sample sizes you move towards the mid point of their season as well.
00:33:19
That will be the eight game mark.
00:33:21
We'll see, right? Are they falling back to the pack and closer to 500? But if they can come out of it right now again with his extra wild card spot, just five games in your you have to feel really good from from a Chicago standpoint is saying, Hey, guess what? We're in line to get back to the playoffs this year.
00:33:36
And, unlike, say, the NFC West, where you could end up really pummeling each other over the course of the season, it feels like you're separating yourself out with the Green Bay Packers.
00:33:45
Collect your winds, especially in some of the easier matchups in your division, and say hello to the playoffs in 2020 so that could be really good for the Chicago Bears as they move on from Travis Key and maybe push the pause button on what the long term plans are at the quarterback position.
00:33:59
That is going to do it for us friends as we mentioned the Buccaneers falling on Thursday Night Football 19 to 20 to the Chicago Bears.
00:34:06
We will, of course, be back in next week on Thursday night, doing our preview show where Ray Ralph will also be in there with us over on the SportsCastr side of things.
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We, of course, say shout outs to a handful of players of people I should say that came in and joined us here.
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