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00:00:22
And with that, we, of course, welcome you back into a fresh episode of O G.
00:00:26
P with myself, Adam, arm, brick and, as always, joined by the healthy, wealthy and wise Mr Andy Mackiewicz.
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It's Dallas week, baby.
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Yeah, I tell you, man.
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This, of course, is first divisional matchup for the Giants.
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So in spite of what's been a difficulty road to start the season, you could still get the blood bubbling.
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You can still start to feel that good old fashioned.
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I hope we can get into a grudge match.
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I mean, if we're not gonna make the playoffs or things were looking bleak, you can always feel just a little bit better.
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If you could be the Dallas Cowboys, you better believe it.
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So we way have optimism in spite of it all, man.
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And I know it feels like and everybody knows this from listening to me on here.
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I Spiral II rally.
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I go into pits of despair.
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I soar with the Eagles.
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I have no control over my body and the emotional state around the New York football giants.
00:01:25
But right now, in this moment, I'm feeling pretty great, and that's why it's exciting to talk about what some of the latest news and notes are around Big Blue as we talk about Week five on quickly before we get into the real meat and potatoes of this bad boy, that is the Dallas Cowboys.
00:01:40
From practice standpoint, he had drill Peppers back.
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Colbert, Colbert.
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Sorry, Colbert.
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Stephen Colbert in the Late Show.
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Hey, joined in.
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The Giants need some help, but safety? He had some play.
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A college, I believe, but no peppers.
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Colbert and Factual all participated limited in practice.
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And then ocean examine.
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Is was out for practice.
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Doesn't mean he's out this week but did not participate in practice on Thursday, either.
00:02:04
So a couple of notes there on the defensive side of the ball where we know we're trying to get ourselves healthy. A couple of key spots.
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Yeah, it doesn't sound very promising for the X Man, usually later on in the week.
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Just not, you know, not being limited is is a real challenge.
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Um, Colbert is an interesting one because he came in and he played quite a few different looks and and snaps for us.
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It would hurt to not have him, especially given that Peppers is still kinda kinda hobbled on his end.
00:02:30
Yes, certainly.
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And you look pretty good and made it easier toe to take Julian love out of a maybe a pressure system situation and use him or, on occasion, situational ball for him.
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Reinforcements on the defensive side as well.
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Does any does anything come to mind here when I talk about helping solidify that defensive unit A name from the past? What bubbles to the surface for you.
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Ah, lt Lawrence Taylor.
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Is he walking through the door anytime. Sorry.
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Should have gone a little bit more specific.
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We're going Mawr.
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Ah, reasonable, Pretty consistent player.
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And we're not going legends.
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We're not going all time.
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Giants greats coming out of his.
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Got it.
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Antonio Pierce.
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Okay.
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I mean, not necessarily guys that have been consistent for number of years and contributed Super Bowls more.
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Just maybe, a guy that was on the roster had a solid season and then was was on injury.
00:03:21
Uh, could it be David Mayo? Hey, yo, If not ketchup, it's not relish friends.
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It is, Mr Mayo.
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He is officially activated by the Giants.
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So what that means is he doesn't have to play.
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Don't don't expect him to necessarily get into the game over next couple of weeks, but it means that they have 21 days to officially play him in a game.
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Otherwise, you know that that's off of I are and what you need to do in order to get him into active roster.
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Otherwise, he may kick back, and we could not see him at all this year.
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So hopefully over the next couple of weeks, he gets his legs underneath him.
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And that's actually relatively important when you think about it, because you know, when you look at the linebacking corps, obviously that blend of veteran and young, we really love what we've seen from Martinez.
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And I actually think that having a guy like Mayo is a great supplemental piece because you know what he is.
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You know what he does for you, and you can trust him to go make plays in very, ah, selective spots, right? You could say, Hey, listen, get out there on this specific down, go get do this thing, go tackle the runner and and feel like you can trust them.
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So that's just it's good to have more of that on this defense who would have thought that are linebacking corps would be one of our strengths.
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Extremely deep we have.
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We have so many linebackers that mail coming back helps.
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But it's not like critical at this moment just because of how well people like Blake Martinez playing you know, on the inside and factor already has a couple sacks.
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I know he's dinged up, but it is. It is.
00:04:43
It speaks volumes to the depth that we have in that position where you know Mayo can be a rotational player and, you know, be able to help this team.
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Unfortunately, when you think about X men being out and then you even think about a Markus Golden, we have unnecessarily seeing the same return at certain certain positions there on the linebacking corps that we might want to see.
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So always areas for improvement.
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Last but not least, the footnote it was mentioned speculated that maybe not right now in this moment, but the New York football giants had considered bringing back in Prince Amukamara.
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This is the name that was talked about a lot as the secondary is dealt with.
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His injuries dealt with departures both on and off the field issues playing their role there.
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Just what's your quick take on the idea of him being a part of this group and maybe being another veteran presence? Well, I think that's interesting, you know? Listen, it didn't end terribly with him.
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It's not an Eli Apple situation where, um, it was just distractions.
00:05:42
He was considered lazy.
00:05:43
You know, it's it's definitely not that situation.
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You know, the challenges that there is interest in Prince Amukamara around the league. I know.
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As of yesterday, Prince was set to visit the Arizona Cardinals s O.
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That was the next step.
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Now go for the car.
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Freeman, who went in for a visit with the Eagles and left without a contract.
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But you know, if they're bringing him this late in the game a veteran, it's likely that they're going to potentially sign him, but wouldn't be mad, especially because we need to just try anything at the cornerback position opposite of Bradbury.
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Because whatever we've been doing hasn't been working so far.
00:06:21
Yeah, and this is an interesting one for me because, as we've said over the course of the season, the off season veteran versus Young, right? You know, rebuilding this roster.
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We mentioned him last week.
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They brought in Harper didn't see you know the field here in his first week.
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You saw some other guys like Ryan Lewis step up and play pretty well.
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I'm a little bit Thorne.
00:06:39
Then I necessarily process Prince Amukamara, but in general, about bringing older veteran cornerback that, relatively speaking, I know visually it may look better on paper, and you may feel better on Sunday for stretches, but I think the deficiencies of a 30 31 year old, 32 year old Prince Amukamara in the big spots when you need to cover a guy deep right when you need to extend your coverage on someone is going to be relatively equal.
00:07:02
Thio taking a chance on some of these other younger players, so we'll see if anything comes of it.
00:07:06
I don't think that they will, and at the very least, you're going to get another week here to try to Seymour from Lewis, who looked good last week.
00:07:13
Get a taste of Harper and see if maybe we're finding some blend here in combination.
00:07:18
So we'll wait and see on that.
00:07:19
Obviously, the return to the Moonda.
00:07:22
That's what I want to get out there.
00:07:23
I just want to get out of coming to America reference and I couldn't quite blended before we started.
00:07:28
I found it in the in the waning moments.
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All you gotta do is just shouted out at the end at him.
00:07:33
That's right, and I will now the meat of it all.
00:07:38
Dallas Cowboys Week five Matchup.
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As we said, Listen, we're owned four.
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But Andy, how far behind are we from the Dallas Cowboys? A perennial playoff team with aspirations of of deep playoff runs and even possible Super Bowl contention? We must be.
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We must be six games out.
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Even though that's impossible.
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The Cowboys are an onside kick away from being, Oh, and four they should be.
00:08:10
Oh, and four, they are a Dumpster fire, and it's it's why, no matter what you always get amped up to play the Dallas Cowboys.
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But when the Dallas Cowboys are reeling and scrambling and shouting and you know not doing things well in the media and everyone's pouring on them, it's just this perfect opportunity for the New York Giants to go in.
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And like just make this thing carnage inside of the Jerry world.
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You better believe it, man.
00:08:39
The idea of now, listen, there's there's areas that things don't line up necessarily great for us, and that's okay there.
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Most weeks, there's things that online upgrade for us.
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But the fact that Dallas has been in this bit of a state of turmoil in the first four weeks of this season is about as juicy as it gets, because it means that even if we lose, we could somehow still win this weekend.
00:09:01
You know, we can somehow still come out feeling really good based on what happened spot to to Dallas and based on even what's been happening before.
00:09:09
We get to the matchup on Sunday and he talked to me about on the defensive side of the ball for for the Dallas Cowboys.
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Uh, Dexter Lawrence.
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He had a bit of a take.
00:09:18
I thought that it was strong.
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I thought that it communicates, Ah, level of desire to get support from this from this fan base.
00:09:24
Well, what's interesting is we have the right Lawrence in this one.
00:09:28
Dexter Lawrence is on the New York Giants, but DeMarcus Lawrence on the other hand for any.
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Was there any chance that I was going to get that out with? No, There was. There was zero.
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I was fully prepared for that.
00:09:40
So, um, I almost just I almost just said Dexter Lawrence again as I retrained my thoughts.
00:09:46
Thanks for that, Adam.
00:09:47
Thank Jamarcus Lawrence.
00:09:49
Uh, you know, the All Pro previously? You know, Pro Bowler, defensive end for the Dallas Cowboys basically came out when fans were critical off the defense and said, Go f yourself basically to all of the Dallas fans.
00:10:09
And when you sign a contract after having your big statistical years and then you play an entire season and you have half the production that you did before you signed the contract and then you play four games this year and you don't have a single sack, and I think you have 11 tackles with three assisted tackles, you know it's always the right thing to do is to turn it around on the fans that pay money to come see you playing by your jersey and tell them to go pound sand and cursing you on screen with them.
00:10:40
I mean, that's got it's got to be in the handbook somewhere, right? Well, it might be in the Jerry Jones handbook.
00:10:46
That guy's got a book that he wrote himself and he's following.
00:10:49
He is following his own guidelines to the T.
00:10:52
Listen, I think that, you know, fortunately, unfortunately, when you're a team that has big expectations, like Dallas, I can under I can understand being frustrated if you are that team right now, but I don't know.
00:11:03
It's like being a kid, right? What? Your parents don't lash out at everybody else.
00:11:06
If you made a mistake, just own your mistake and say that boy, I feel terrible that we're not getting You know, we're not playing better.
00:11:12
We're not getting more wins or I feel terrible that I kick sand in Susie's eyes.
00:11:16
I'm gonna go apologize Instead.
00:11:17
Basically, DaMarcus is going over and being like, Yeah, and here's a mouthful of dirt to like It's just it's such an interesting choice after again.
00:11:26
After a week after a game where Dallas is probably pretty frustrated internally and they're just spitting fire all around all around the for anyone that wants it, you stink.
00:11:38
As a defense, you have to take the criticism as it comes to you, you can't turn it around and then double down and get defensive.
00:11:46
It's funny because he's putting up more defense against the fans on social media than he is on the field on Sundays, which is ridiculous.
00:11:54
They gave up almost a 50 burger to the Cleveland Browns.
00:11:58
They gave up 300 yards on the ground.
00:12:02
They were a sieve on defense, and the fans are upset.
00:12:05
DeMarcus Lawrence has zero sacks.
00:12:07
He is a sack specialist.
00:12:09
He had 15 sacks, he had 10 or 11 sacks, then got paid his big contract in 20 something games.
00:12:15
Since then, he said, five like this is all fair criticism that you need to take.
00:12:20
If if you're three and one and the and the offense is carrying you, it's like, Listen, we're gonna turn it around.
00:12:25
We got this.
00:12:26
It's okay.
00:12:27
You're one and three.
00:12:28
That fan base has every right to be ****ed off, and for you to come out there and then turn it back on them like it's some affront to you as a human being is ludicrous on.
00:12:38
And that's what makes the Dallas Cowboys so perfect is like he belongs as a Dallas cowboy, making $20 million yelling at the fans, mailing it in.
00:12:48
I love it.
00:12:49
I love every second of it.
00:12:51
Now listen.
00:12:52
The good news is for Dallas, for the defense is that cooler heads prevail when you get in front of that microphone.
00:12:58
Listen, one of your teammates may pop a top.
00:13:00
He may go off a little bit, and that's when you need someone to step in, settle things down and communicate back to the people.
00:13:07
How.
00:13:08
Listen, we are high motor guys.
00:13:09
We are putting in the effort on a down to downplay, to play basis.
00:13:14
Enter in Xavier Woods, who, I think, essentially, is saying 100.
00:13:20
I give 100%.
00:13:23
Most of the time.
00:13:24
I'm not gonna.
00:13:25
I'm not gonna go full speed every play.
00:13:28
The direct quote, I believe, is nobody expects a guy in the NFL to play all 70 plays in a game.
00:13:36
Come on, come on, friends, he says.
00:13:40
This is the NFL.
00:13:42
You know you can't expect us to go full on for 70 snaps.
00:13:45
You just can't do it.
00:13:46
And you know, I've heard a lot of different takes on this one, and it's funny because when I heard it, I did the same thing that a lot other people did.
00:13:54
I'm like, Well, that's crazy.
00:13:56
That's insane for him to say as a professional athlete, and then I'm like, Well, maybe people in the biz, they're gonna come back and be like, Listen, that's how it works.
00:14:03
Like you kind of take plays off.
00:14:05
You sneak yourself in, you get a little red like, resoundingly, former NFL players in the media or like this guy has literally lost his mind like like And then he was talking about He went on to say, Like, Listen, if you're the weak side corner back and the play goes to the other side like, I'm not gonna like, just trot over there just for the hell of it And the most and the most ironic thing about all this, Adam is this.
00:14:29
All got brought up because of the Odell Beckham touchdown late in the game against the Cowboys, where it was a reverse play, which means the action is going to the strong side and they switch it up, go the play, then sweeps around and bubbles around to the weak side corner back.
00:14:46
So he's basically saying like, Yeah, I'm a weak side.
00:14:49
I'm gonna probably just mail it in.
00:14:51
That's the play they scored a touchdown on.
00:14:53
Like that is why people are upset.
00:14:54
You are actually talking about the problem and every single foreign players like this guy's an idiot.
00:15:00
This is ridiculous.
00:15:01
You can't say this out loud.
00:15:02
Yes, maybe you're tired and you're and you're trying to get to there.
00:15:06
But you just don't have the energy to do it.
00:15:07
Or, you know, maybe you're at the back of the pile and someone else has him wrapped up in your and your right there, just kind of protecting, but to actually come out and say like, I know I'm an athlete, but I'm just not gonna play hard like that is the most tone deaf thing you can say to a fan base that sees you giving up 50 points a game, right? You know who has played 100% of the snaps for the New York football giants in the secondary? Who's that? James Bradberry.
00:15:34
Listen, and I'm not going to sit here and tell you what you know what goes on in a play to play basis in his mind and where things were going.
00:15:40
But to your point, you just listen.
00:15:42
And the biggest one is about that reverse.
00:15:44
Rebecca, I'm like, No, you don't have to be going high motor 100 miles an hour on every play.
00:15:50
But mentally, you got to be checked into the game mentally, you gotta know.
00:15:54
Hey, there's potential.
00:15:55
My job is to, at the very least trot my way down towards the weak side of this play on the back end of it, just in case so that I'm physically present able to be there.
00:16:04
So it's obviously fun for us.
00:16:07
I don't think it feels great for Dallas fans, right? Right now.
00:16:10
Well, I was listening.
00:16:11
Thio Brandon Marshall, uh, on his morning show talk.
00:16:15
And he said something that I thought was a friend of the podcast.
00:16:18
Yeah, a friend of the show. Right.
00:16:20
Um you know, he basically said When you go in these coaching meetings, there's three things that that they look at One is assignment.
00:16:27
Who are you assigned? Thio.
00:16:29
If the play starts to move, the second thing is alignment.
00:16:32
Are you in the right positions in this? If we're playing man or zone because you're not just in a vacuum in all this, And the third thing is effort.
00:16:40
So, like, if you're not giving effort on every play, how do you know whether or not the alignment was off or he missed the assignment? Like you just you gotta go hard on every place so that when they turn on the film, you can't just look at every play that you didn't do it and be like, Well, yeah, I kind of nailed it in there like, Yeah, I didn't do this.
00:16:57
Like, how do you evaluate talent if they're not trying their best on every play? That's actually a great point, right? Because in terms of this scheme, and if you're Dallas and you're playing poorly on defense, you're trying to get in the film room and say, Hey, where the mistake's how to be clean this up If Roe If Woods Excuse me, if you're supposed to be there on the back side of that play to break up the end around from Beckham, then that's a big success.
00:17:18
The scheme works, right? We, Even though they tried to pull a tricky, tricky play on us, we were there in the right spot.
00:17:23
We blew that up.
00:17:24
That means that we can hang our hat on that going forward instead, you say.
00:17:27
Well, I don't.
00:17:29
Now, I know Maybe you weren't bothering to be there, and I also, but I don't know what the result was gonna be Had you been there where you're gonna get blown up by a block, where they gonna have, you know, blockers out in front there.
00:17:38
What was that going to look like if you play it out at full speed? The craziest part about it.
00:17:42
And it's just that one play that everyone's thinking about because it was the backbreaking play for the Cowboys.
00:17:46
But the defensive lineman made Odell Beckham bubble the reverse 20 yards behind the line of scrimmage.
00:17:54
So he's starting that play 20 yards behind the line of scrimmage.
00:17:58
The defensive lineman did what he was supposed to dio.
00:18:01
He just needs help from the other players to then be in position to make a play.
00:18:05
And if you look at it, you look at Jaylin Smith just jogging around and, uh, you know, a friend of the podcast, David Hunter, huge cowboy fan.
00:18:13
He came out and he was like, First thing I do is I sit down.
00:18:16
Jaylin Smith.
00:18:17
He's like the guy is over aggressive.
00:18:19
He's going through his assignments because he's just trying to run toe wherever he thinks the ball is going to be, and it's crippling this defense and and and like, he's giving too much effort.
00:18:28
You got Xavier Rhodes.
00:18:29
That's like I'm playing half the snaps.
00:18:31
You have DeMarcus Lawrence saying like Buzz off.
00:18:34
I don't care what you guys think and it's like what is happening and all of this just makes me so happy at him again.
00:18:41
It really it really does.
00:18:42
Like I get great joy in seeing that the defense is an absolute Dumpster fire right now.
00:18:48
It's a thing of beauty.
00:18:49
Any time the Jerry world is in turmoil, I I feel a little bit better and it helps to create what we call a silver lining to what's been a difficult start to our season.
00:18:58
All right, that was a lot of fun.
00:19:00
I enjoyed myself thoroughly.
00:19:02
Now as we do think about this from the Giants perspective, One of the things I'll say coming off of this Thursday night game between the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the Chicago Bears tweeted this out last night, where all at one point in the game, they showed how many penalties Tampa Bay had accrued.
00:19:20
And that was 10.
00:19:22
And I just said casually, listen, and this and this and this way we understand where we're hanging our hat on some on somethin hooks right now these days.
00:19:30
But that would take the Giants 2.
00:19:32
5 games to accrue that same number of penalties.
00:19:37
We're playing really clean football and I love it.
00:19:40
And I was also immediately frustrated by the fact that in spite of in spite of having 10 penalties for almost 120 yards Tampa Bay, they lost that game and by the way, you can look at those penalties and say This could be a great reason why we lost this game But there have committing all those penalties Now they are three and two but still winning football games and I just I would love to see the giant start to get rewarded for being committed, playing clean football, not making dumb comments in the press, staying connected like they're doing, they're doing so many great things from the rebuilding process under Joe Judge and I just feel like, Hey, we got at least ring that bell a couple of times and feel good about the things that we are doing well, well, it z a blessing and a curse, right? The Giants are playing smart ball, but it's not.
00:20:23
It's not leading to anything like it would almost be like.
00:20:25
Okay, penalties.
00:20:26
We are shooting ourselves in the foot.
00:20:29
If we clean that up, we can move the ball down the field.
00:20:31
But that's not the case.
00:20:33
And that kind of bleeds into what are offensive coordinator Jason Garrett is trying to figure out.
00:20:40
You know, it's one of those things where if it's all about penalties, it's easy to say if we clean these up, if we put it in the right technique, we know where we need to go as a team.
00:20:49
Yeah, Jason Garrett came out after four games and said, Yeah, we're still trying to figure out what works for us on offense and and I I saw this and I got angry because I I kind of took what he said and ran with it further into what he actually meant you've kind of tried to pull me back in a little bit.
00:21:09
But tell me what your thoughts are on Jason Garrett saying he's still trying to figure out what works for the offense.
00:21:16
Yeah, I mean, listen, maybe not dissimilar.
00:21:18
Dissimilar.
00:21:19
Lee toe What? We're talking about the Dallas side of things the way that you communicate something to the press.
00:21:23
When, when you're talking about a specific area of the game, when I look at Jason Garrett, what I really think you're hearing is you know, I've got Nick Gates, a player that I've watched film on but not at center.
00:21:34
So I'm still learning what he's best suited to do with that particular position.
00:21:38
I'm still now looking in the absence of, say, Kwame Barkley and bringing in Devante Freeman.
00:21:42
Okay, Now I have Goldman.
00:21:44
I have Freeman.
00:21:45
I have Lewis.
00:21:46
What is our best way to attack using this rotational back system, something we didn't plan on coming into the year? I don't have Sterling Shepard.
00:21:53
I'm trying to figure out how do we create separation for a wide receivers, an area that we struggled in, and on top of which I'm also looking at Evan Ingram and what a lot of Giants fans probably know.
00:22:03
Coming into it and saying, Well, on paper, on tape, I see a guy that's a freak athlete and a mismatch and a nightmare for defense is.
00:22:11
But if he's not gonna catch the ball, if he's not gonna be able to be productive, if you can't contribute in the blocking game, all of a sudden it diminishes the value of this great piece that I had.
00:22:19
So, for better or worse, Jason Garrett, I think, is really going through the growing pains off of learning what players are best suited to do.
00:22:27
And then collectively, don't forget, rookie left tackle is well, so you're still trying to also figure out how are we utilizing this offensive line unit and creating opportunities not just for receivers for running backs, but also for Daniel Jones, which extends to him being able to be mobile and get out of the pockets.
00:22:43
So I think there's a lot of factors that the Garretts alluding to there and I understand the idea of Don't don't say it in the way that makes it sound like you don't know what's going on, and that's that's the way it comes across.
00:22:57
Well, and that's what makes me so Adam adamant about this because it s so Adam were also, I know.
00:23:03
But it makes me so angry, too.
00:23:06
And like you explained what he probably meant, and I totally get that.
00:23:10
But the way that I take it as a fan and someone that really follows this team closely is like guys, I don't know what I'm doing.
00:23:17
Like, I haven't figured it out yet.
00:23:20
I, uh and like going into the Dallas game, it feels like we don't even have a plan because he's like, I don't know what works for this team.
00:23:28
So we're still working like it's one thing to say you're a work in progress.
00:23:33
It's another thing to say.
00:23:34
Like I still haven't figured out any way to be successful, which we already knew.
00:23:37
Jason Garrett.
00:23:38
Because you're scoring 11 points a game like you don't need to come out and say, like, I don't have a clue how this team works, Like we already saw it on paper.
00:23:44
The stats don't lie.
00:23:46
You don't need to tell me you don't need to rub my nose in it like I'm a dog that actually peed on the carpet like I clearly understand this.
00:23:53
It's baffling to me and like what other frustrating piece of it is and and maybe he is trying to make adjustments.
00:24:01
I don't see those adjustments.
00:24:03
We don't run enough motion on offense were one of the least least pre snap motion teams in the entire league.
00:24:11
We also don't run Zone reads for Daniel Jones at all, mentioned it on the last podcast.
00:24:16
We run the ball on first down, up the gut for two yards every time.
00:24:21
And this is something that Cowboy fans were so angry at.
00:24:24
Jason Garrett for.
00:24:25
He is like a robot.
00:24:27
He is a robot when things start going awry.
00:24:30
He has trouble getting creative and starting to pivot.
00:24:33
And that was one of the big problems that Dallas had.
00:24:36
Now they're stuck with Mike McCarthy, for better or for worse, you know, and and Jason Garrett is beloved by the players that play for him.
00:24:44
But man, is it frustrating when he says, I still don't know what works and we're like, Yeah, we know we see that happening well and there's a difference, too, I would say like you go back to Dallas days for? For Jason Garrett, where you'd say, Well, behind that offensive line, Yeah, running on first down, go up the gut, get me a handful of yards, right? Like it makes sense to build your drives that way because that is your strength on that line for the Giants.
00:25:07
Obviously again, you're you're trying to do both what makes sense and what should be the plan of attack and then adjusting for what is the current state of things across this roster.
00:25:16
What I will say is, you go back to last week.
00:25:18
I think you did see some or pre snap motion, especially with the tight ends rotating from left to right side of the line.
00:25:24
You had anger in the backfield for stretches again.
00:25:27
I do think this is an evolving thing in terms of the playbook for this team as well.
00:25:31
Now, to your point, I would probably now look in this game and want to see some more R P O options for Daniel Jones.
00:25:38
We've now seen in a couple of weeks back to back here that him using his legs is obviously a strength and we knew that it.
00:25:45
Waas.
00:25:46
The question is, can you design it in a way? And I understand it from the standpoint to If I was behind the curtain here with Joe Judge and this offensive staff, I also understand the idea off.
00:25:55
Okay, there's a strength here and Daniel Jones and his legs, but we need to make sure that when we put him in these positions to utilize those legs, it's not going to be left or right side of the line is collapsing.
00:26:07
And as he wants to get to the edge, he's getting blown up by a defensive lineman.
00:26:11
He's getting speared down by a safety there is.
00:26:14
You know, this is about trying to protect him at the same time.
00:26:17
And unfortunately, unlike Dallas over previous years, where you had again offensive line play, you know that that solid, you know that you can lean on that.
00:26:24
We don't have that just yet right now.
00:26:26
So there's a risk reward factor there as well.
00:26:29
I think as things move along here, you will see it open up a little bit.
00:26:33
You will see the playbook continue to expand.
00:26:35
So I'm gonna I'm gonna hold off here for a minute.
00:26:37
There's definitely I'm on the precipice of getting frustrated with Jason Garrett, but as of right now, I just need to see what happens here, because I I I can't say that them scoring 11 points on average per game is solely based on what the scheme is that the running.
00:26:51
I think it's just about the sum of the parts and where they are right now.
00:26:54
And uh, I'll say to Patrick Graham having so much success defensively, it's a lot easier to have your scheme and then mix and match plug and play with different pieces on the defensive side of the ball, as opposed to offensively, because you can't just rotate in random, different offensive lot.
00:27:10
You know you're not going well, starting Gates at center for two plays, and then I'll bring in Spencer Poli for one.
00:27:14
You know those air red flag signals? One that you don't have an offensive line, and two that the defense can then key off on what you're looking to do.
00:27:21
Wanna give them play? My my simple answer is Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen.
00:27:27
Their coaching staffs have figured out how to incorporate Mawr design place for them to get out in space.
00:27:33
And to be honest with you, they're far more valuable to their teams than Daniel Jones is.
00:27:38
And so, while we wanna make sure to protect him and figure things out, they have clearly figured it out in both Baltimore and Buffalo, with those two guys flourishing.
00:27:47
One is the M V P from last year.
00:27:49
The other one is like top three in the M V P voting for the for this year.
00:27:53
Offensive line play, though again, that's what comes back to both.
00:27:56
Those teams have solid offensive lines in front of those guys, so that gives them the opportunity.
00:28:00
Now I again I I still agree with you that if you get Daniel Jones out on the perimeter and give him some looks at Evan Ingram just running a traditional crossing route and then he can make his choice about running for a handful of yards or dumping off a very easy lay off past that's going to help this offensive line is gonna mitigate some of the risk of having a growing learning offensive line.
00:28:20
So I understand that side of it.
00:28:21
But again, when we compare them to other mobile quarterbacks, It's like saying, Well, why don't you just Russell Wilson on that guy's got great like, Well, yeah, but you know, it isn't It isn't where Daniel Jones is right now.
00:28:31
It's not where this offenses right now.
00:28:32
Yeah, but But Adam, here's the problem for me because we use it as an excuse for everything that we do on offense.
00:28:38
It's like, Why don't we get Daniel Jones, Adam or run? Pass option? Well, we don't have the offensive line for that, Okay? Why don't we drop back and try to stretch the field vertically and get and get? Why receivers out open in space? Oh, well, our offensive line isn't good enough to do that.
00:28:53
Okay, Well, then let's run the ball and have a power run game and establish the run and get yards.
00:28:58
Oh, well, we don't have an offensive line to do that like, Okay, I get it.
00:29:02
But But if we can't throw the ball deep, if we can't get Daniel Jones out in space, we can't run the ball like we already know. The offensive line is good.
00:29:09
Figure something out.
00:29:11
There has to be something different that you can try, and until they try that I'm going to be frustrated with how things were going.
00:29:18
I agree.
00:29:19
I do agree with you and but I'll say it doesn't.
00:29:22
You don't have to just say it's the offensive line.
00:29:24
You can also say it's a depleted wide receiver cord.
00:29:26
You can also say it's a depleted, you know, losing your number one best running back in the NFL as your primary weapon in this offenses.
00:29:33
Well, so those things hurt, too.
00:29:35
And that's again to bring it back to Garrett and what this offense is doing or not doing now, over these next four games, like we just talked about from Wednesday, right, first quarter is done.
00:29:43
The 1st 15 minutes of our season or over were into that second quarter of the year.
00:29:47
And now, having lost some of these weapons now, I'll start to look to see what is Jason Garrett been doing during the week? And how are we translated onto the field for what the roster now looks like going forward? Um, listen, there's a couple other knows and knows that we could get into around this game and expectations specifically about what this Dallas defense is look like and where maybe we can excel.
00:30:06
I will throw out one little caveat.
00:30:07
Footnote here because we're talking offensively.
00:30:10
There is also the rumor around trade deadline possibilities, and we highlighted this in the middle of the week around some guys that you might find on the block allegedly supposedly speculatively.
00:30:21
Golden tape has been possibly highlighted as a target for the New England Patriots before the trade deadline to bring in and hopefully pair with a cam Newton comes back healthy, obviously, after the positive test for Cove in 19 asymptomatic.
00:30:39
Good for him.
00:30:40
Leave it.
00:30:41
Leave it at that.
00:30:42
We don't want players to be unhealthy, no matter if they are are hated Super Bowl rivals.
00:30:45
Uh, would that be something that would tantalize you wouldn't tickle your taste buds? And do you think that a team like New England who is very willing to give up assets for something and they they feel like they can always recoup those? Do you think we could get highest market value for someone like Golden Tate? Because New England is in a Hey, we really wanna have a security blanket weapon in our offense for Newton? Yeah, I mean, I'm all for any of you know, non cornerstone players and finding out what their market value is.
00:31:13
It, you know, we're going for this is gonna be a tough game.
00:31:16
Where 10 or 10 point underdogs against the Cowboys coming in.
00:31:19
So people are presuming that we're gonna be owned five.
00:31:22
At that point, everyone needs to be evaluated on the roster.
00:31:25
We're building for the future.
00:31:26
Get as many assets as you can.
00:31:28
I'm fine with any any type of pick that we could get for someone like golden tape.
00:31:33
Fantastic.
00:31:34
You're in total agreement with me.
00:31:35
Good to know.
00:31:36
Uh, now, specifically, around the matchup on Sunday for the Giants, we talked about how the little bit dysfunction there on the Dallas side of things for the defense, you mentioned 300 yards given up on the ground.
00:31:48
Dallas surrenders 430 yards a game.
00:31:51
They surrender 258 passing yards per game and they're averaging now with a really ugly performance there 172 yards rushing on the defensive side of the ball.
00:32:01
When you think about those numbers, even the even you talk about the 2 58 there on the passing side of things is still good for 10th worst.
00:32:09
They're one of the top, or bottom for defense is in the league.
00:32:13
Do you think that? And where do you think the Giants should go here is far as who's the running back that needs to make a big statement This game for the Giants? Who is the receiver that can have a big day here? How do they attack? Ah, suspect defense early so that you avoid getting into a big hole and having to play from behind something that I think, well, then lend itself for Dallas to be able to, you know, recover their defensive identity.
00:32:37
So this is an interesting matchup outside of it being the Dallas Cowboys because of you know, what their strengths are, what our strengths are and what their weaknesses are, and vice versa.
00:32:47
So they are terrible run defense.
00:32:51
The problem is, we're last in the league in rushing, right? So, like, you know, if we have rushing attack, you could sit there and say, we're gonna pound that rock, and we're gonna shove it down their throat until they either stacked the box and leave single coverage on the outside like they'll have to do something to make adjustments.
00:33:07
We don't necessarily have that as an option, which is is frustrating.
00:33:10
You then look at it like we're really good at run defense and their offensive line is so banged up.
00:33:17
You know, Frederick retired in the off season, while Collins is on IR Tyron Smith.
00:33:21
It looks like he's not gonna play.
00:33:23
They They're so banged up on the offensive line.
00:33:25
Ezekiel Elliott looks like a shell of himself, 3.
00:33:28
9 yards, a carry on behind just a normal offensive line.
00:33:32
But they throw the ball well.
00:33:35
They Dak Prescott is on pace to throw for over 60 arts like they have three wide receivers.
00:33:42
All three of them would be the number one wide receiver on the New York Giants.
00:33:46
Right now, they're passing.
00:33:47
Attack is tremendous, and we only have one cornerback that can protect against that.
00:33:52
So, like as much as that, the Cowboys haven't looked good, the Giants don't have the type of structure right now that I think lends itself to take advantage of the challenges that the Cowboys present.
00:34:06
Do you think that on the defensive side of the ball for the New York Giants.
00:34:09
You talk about how successful, obviously they've been to the passing attack with that Prescott.
00:34:14
Do you anticipate Patrick Graham trying to utilize some of those zone looks and really may be taking a look and saying, Hey, defensive front, we need you toe try to occupy this offensive line that we can say is, at least has taken a little bit of a step back.
00:34:28
There's still a strong unit, but they're not the same front five that they were over the last, say, four or five years.
00:34:34
Do you think they try to occupy upfront and then utilize a multitude of linebackers and secondary players and say, Listen, let's just bubble out here and try to in a lot of ways, and I know this is gonna probably stick in your craw because I wouldn't be shocked.
00:34:49
If you see Patrick Graham say, Hey, you know what we want to dio make them earn their way down the field.
00:34:54
Even if it's in 7 to 12 yard chunks at a time, let's just not give up the big plays quickly and force them to have toe have 5 to 78 minute drives in order to get points on the board, because that's how we keep ourselves competitive and hopefully that the offense keep us in this game, right? We need to keep this game in the twenties if we're gonna be a part of it.
00:35:13
It can't be getting up to the late, you know, later twenties, early thirties.
00:35:16
There in terms of Dallas score.
00:35:17
So coincidentally, the way that I think the Giants win this game is they force Dak Prescott to throw the ball as much as possible.
00:35:27
And I know that sounds crazy.
00:35:28
You're like what he's throwing for 6000 yards.
00:35:30
Like the reason why is while he's on pace for 6000 yards and their one and three and they're an onside kick away from being oh, and four, right.
00:35:37
So, like the formula off stopping the run, not letting Zeke Elliot get going and eliminate the time of possession battle from being a struggle.
00:35:48
Like every time they throw the ball, there's a risk. It stops the clock.
00:35:52
They're not moving the chains, all that different stuff.
00:35:54
They've been turning the ball over really costly times for for their team on offense.
00:35:59
For me, it's Listen, Doc may throw for 3 54 104 50 against our defense.
00:36:05
If we if we stop the run game and we eliminate the time of possession and we try toe manage the clock a little bit more effectively, I think that's our best opportunity to win.
00:36:15
Yeah, you wanna make them one dimensional, right? Whatever. Whatever.
00:36:18
Look, that think you think you're best suited to Dio.
00:36:20
And I guess, to your point, if you say hey, where we weakest in our secondary? So let's not try Thio shut down the passing attack because that's gonna be the harder thing for us to dio.
00:36:30
Let's excel at locking down the run game where, incidentally, I don't I didn't realize this, but a lot of the kind of out there in the in the Twitter sphere out there in the media is the idea that that a player like Ezekiel Elliott is getting old in a hurry.
00:36:43
Are you seeing that? Are you seeing the tires kind of run a little bit, a little bit soft there for him and? And is that not even in this game? But just in general, is that a really telling sign for where he's headed right now.
00:36:55
I mean, you hate to say it is that also made predictive about what we could be concerned about when it comes to, say, Kwan, Barkley, they have really written him into the ground there in Dallas over the last handful of years to carry numbers are high for him.
00:37:07
So, as I said before, I pick the brain of Dallas Cowboy fan Dave Hunter all week this week to try to get some of this inside cause I said, Man, Zeke Elliot, 3.
00:37:16
9 yards of carry.
00:37:17
That is not very Zeke esque.
00:37:19
He's like, Well, we could We have a ton of other problems other than Zeke Elliot right now, but it is interesting to think that, you know he's averaging under four yards to carry this offensive line is beat up.
00:37:30
You know, they for years had easily the best offensive line in football.
00:37:36
Now they're kind of peace milling it together, and cowboy fans are feeling the struggle that giant fans have had for years.
00:37:41
Where it's like it's turnstiles, guys air not being able to handle their assignments and they're not able to get the run game going.
00:37:48
I do find it interesting.
00:37:50
You know, they they do say that running backs just like kind of fall for Cliff.
00:37:53
I think it's Mawr.
00:37:55
And this, this was to Dave's point is that people go to Dallas to get the bag and chill.
00:38:02
That is, like their ultimate goal.
00:38:03
Like they go, they get that big contract and then they sit back with the star on their and their, you know, loved in the town.
00:38:11
And they're making all the money.
00:38:12
Look into Marcus Lawrence.
00:38:14
Look, atsic, Elliott.
00:38:15
They paid both of them and since they paid both of them, they have not performed well, it's so weird to think about going back to the, you know, to the Troy Aikman days, right? I mean, this is when you had the superstars on that roster.
00:38:30
You know, you're talking about Emmitt Smith and you're talking about the wide receiving corps and just being like you look at all the weapons and the talent, but they were so in a good way.
00:38:38
I mean, it's gonna cause a compliment.
00:38:39
They were so ego driven about winning, about wanting to win, that that's what fueled them, and it is always worth it.
00:38:45
And actually, if you go back to this contract, I think you actually really lucked out when you had Troy Aikman and he was using Evan Smith so much.
00:38:52
The value of those contracts and what you were getting on return was actually done really well by Dallas at the time.
00:38:57
But you don't have that same mentality.
00:38:58
It seems like, right.
00:38:59
I think that probably has that, actually.
00:39:01
But I don't know if all the pieces around him agree with it, and that's when you start to think about, you know, is back there for the long haul.
00:39:08
You assume so.
00:39:09
But if I was back and I really wanted toe win, I'm you know, I might look at my options out there because you know you're gonna have suitors for a player like him coming off of what's gonna be a monster statistical season.
00:39:20
Well, you talk about Troy Aikman.
00:39:22
You know, it's bad for the Dallas Cowboys when Troy Aikman comes out and he's like, No, I call Bs on everything that you guys are saying is coaching staff, like they're like, Oh, we're like one play away from from being really competitive on defense.
00:39:35
One missed assignment.
00:39:36
We would have been in the game trying things like, Who are you guys trying to fool? Like usually he's He kind of goes with the Dallas Cowboy message.
00:39:45
Doesn't want to upset the apple cart with Jerry, and this time he's like, No, Colombe s not good enough.
00:39:50
You guys need to fix whatever is going on there.
00:39:52
And so when ah, legend like Troy Aikman comes out and calls out the team and the coaches and the players, you know things.
00:39:59
Aaron.
00:40:00
Turmoil in Dallas and listen.
00:40:01
It'll be interesting to watch on Sunday because again, going back to it close game there could have lost it on the on side kick against the Falcons.
00:40:08
But they have played the Rams, the Falcons, the Seahawks and the Browns.
00:40:12
Now there's two sides of this coin.
00:40:14
None of those defense's are particularly strong.
00:40:17
Rams would be the strongest one.
00:40:19
They lost that game 22 17 early, so you can look at that and say, Hey, better defensive play.
00:40:24
You can control this offensive little bit, and then the flip side of it would be if you want to go concerning from a giant standpoint.
00:40:31
Obviously, all of those teams are strong offensively, especially the Falcons, especially Seattle, even the Browns in week forward.
00:40:38
By that point, they really turned things around a bit.
00:40:41
So surrendering as many points as they have those numbers can get skewed a little bit.
00:40:45
I think that for us, it's gonna fall somewhere in the middle, trending on the lower side.
00:40:50
But there's opportunities here.
00:40:51
I think that this could still be a really competitive game come Sunday, hopefully for the sake of Big Blue that my friends will wrap up a Friday edition of the O. G. P.
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New York Giants VS Dallas Cowboys

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Adam Armbrecht @OneGiantPodcast

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00:00:22
And with that, we, of course, welcome you back into a fresh episode of O G.
00:00:26
P with myself, Adam, arm, brick and, as always, joined by the healthy, wealthy and wise Mr Andy Mackiewicz.
00:00:35
It's Dallas week, baby.
00:00:39
Yeah, I tell you, man.
00:00:41
This, of course, is first divisional matchup for the Giants.
00:00:44
So in spite of what's been a difficulty road to start the season, you could still get the blood bubbling.
00:00:50
You can still start to feel that good old fashioned.
00:00:53
I hope we can get into a grudge match.
00:00:56
I mean, if we're not gonna make the playoffs or things were looking bleak, you can always feel just a little bit better.
00:01:04
If you could be the Dallas Cowboys, you better believe it.
00:01:06
So we way have optimism in spite of it all, man.
00:01:10
And I know it feels like and everybody knows this from listening to me on here.
00:01:14
I Spiral II rally.
00:01:17
I go into pits of despair.
00:01:19
I soar with the Eagles.
00:01:20
I have no control over my body and the emotional state around the New York football giants.
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But right now, in this moment, I'm feeling pretty great, and that's why it's exciting to talk about what some of the latest news and notes are around Big Blue as we talk about Week five on quickly before we get into the real meat and potatoes of this bad boy, that is the Dallas Cowboys.
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From practice standpoint, he had drill Peppers back.
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Colbert, Colbert.
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Sorry, Colbert.
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Stephen Colbert in the Late Show.
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Hey, joined in.
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The Giants need some help, but safety? He had some play.
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A college, I believe, but no peppers.
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Colbert and Factual all participated limited in practice.
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And then ocean examine.
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Is was out for practice.
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Doesn't mean he's out this week but did not participate in practice on Thursday, either.
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So a couple of notes there on the defensive side of the ball where we know we're trying to get ourselves healthy. A couple of key spots.
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Yeah, it doesn't sound very promising for the X Man, usually later on in the week.
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Just not, you know, not being limited is is a real challenge.
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Um, Colbert is an interesting one because he came in and he played quite a few different looks and and snaps for us.
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It would hurt to not have him, especially given that Peppers is still kinda kinda hobbled on his end.
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Yes, certainly.
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And you look pretty good and made it easier toe to take Julian love out of a maybe a pressure system situation and use him or, on occasion, situational ball for him.
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Reinforcements on the defensive side as well.
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Does any does anything come to mind here when I talk about helping solidify that defensive unit A name from the past? What bubbles to the surface for you.
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Ah, lt Lawrence Taylor.
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Is he walking through the door anytime. Sorry.
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Should have gone a little bit more specific.
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We're going Mawr.
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Ah, reasonable, Pretty consistent player.
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And we're not going legends.
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We're not going all time.
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Giants greats coming out of his.
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Got it.
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Antonio Pierce.
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Okay.
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I mean, not necessarily guys that have been consistent for number of years and contributed Super Bowls more.
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Just maybe, a guy that was on the roster had a solid season and then was was on injury.
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Uh, could it be David Mayo? Hey, yo, If not ketchup, it's not relish friends.
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It is, Mr Mayo.
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He is officially activated by the Giants.
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So what that means is he doesn't have to play.
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Don't don't expect him to necessarily get into the game over next couple of weeks, but it means that they have 21 days to officially play him in a game.
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Otherwise, you know that that's off of I are and what you need to do in order to get him into active roster.
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Otherwise, he may kick back, and we could not see him at all this year.
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So hopefully over the next couple of weeks, he gets his legs underneath him.
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And that's actually relatively important when you think about it, because you know, when you look at the linebacking corps, obviously that blend of veteran and young, we really love what we've seen from Martinez.
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And I actually think that having a guy like Mayo is a great supplemental piece because you know what he is.
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You know what he does for you, and you can trust him to go make plays in very, ah, selective spots, right? You could say, Hey, listen, get out there on this specific down, go get do this thing, go tackle the runner and and feel like you can trust them.
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So that's just it's good to have more of that on this defense who would have thought that are linebacking corps would be one of our strengths.
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Extremely deep we have.
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We have so many linebackers that mail coming back helps.
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But it's not like critical at this moment just because of how well people like Blake Martinez playing you know, on the inside and factor already has a couple sacks.
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I know he's dinged up, but it is. It is.
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It speaks volumes to the depth that we have in that position where you know Mayo can be a rotational player and, you know, be able to help this team.
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Unfortunately, when you think about X men being out and then you even think about a Markus Golden, we have unnecessarily seeing the same return at certain certain positions there on the linebacking corps that we might want to see.
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So always areas for improvement.
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Last but not least, the footnote it was mentioned speculated that maybe not right now in this moment, but the New York football giants had considered bringing back in Prince Amukamara.
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This is the name that was talked about a lot as the secondary is dealt with.
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His injuries dealt with departures both on and off the field issues playing their role there.
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Just what's your quick take on the idea of him being a part of this group and maybe being another veteran presence? Well, I think that's interesting, you know? Listen, it didn't end terribly with him.
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It's not an Eli Apple situation where, um, it was just distractions.
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He was considered lazy.
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You know, it's it's definitely not that situation.
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You know, the challenges that there is interest in Prince Amukamara around the league. I know.
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As of yesterday, Prince was set to visit the Arizona Cardinals s O.
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That was the next step.
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Now go for the car.
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Freeman, who went in for a visit with the Eagles and left without a contract.
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But you know, if they're bringing him this late in the game a veteran, it's likely that they're going to potentially sign him, but wouldn't be mad, especially because we need to just try anything at the cornerback position opposite of Bradbury.
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Because whatever we've been doing hasn't been working so far.
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Yeah, and this is an interesting one for me because, as we've said over the course of the season, the off season veteran versus Young, right? You know, rebuilding this roster.
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We mentioned him last week.
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They brought in Harper didn't see you know the field here in his first week.
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You saw some other guys like Ryan Lewis step up and play pretty well.
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I'm a little bit Thorne.
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Then I necessarily process Prince Amukamara, but in general, about bringing older veteran cornerback that, relatively speaking, I know visually it may look better on paper, and you may feel better on Sunday for stretches, but I think the deficiencies of a 30 31 year old, 32 year old Prince Amukamara in the big spots when you need to cover a guy deep right when you need to extend your coverage on someone is going to be relatively equal.
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Thio taking a chance on some of these other younger players, so we'll see if anything comes of it.
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I don't think that they will, and at the very least, you're going to get another week here to try to Seymour from Lewis, who looked good last week.
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Get a taste of Harper and see if maybe we're finding some blend here in combination.
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So we'll wait and see on that.
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Obviously, the return to the Moonda.
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That's what I want to get out there.
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I just want to get out of coming to America reference and I couldn't quite blended before we started.
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I found it in the in the waning moments.
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All you gotta do is just shouted out at the end at him.
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That's right, and I will now the meat of it all.
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Dallas Cowboys Week five Matchup.
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As we said, Listen, we're owned four.
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But Andy, how far behind are we from the Dallas Cowboys? A perennial playoff team with aspirations of of deep playoff runs and even possible Super Bowl contention? We must be.
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We must be six games out.
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Even though that's impossible.
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The Cowboys are an onside kick away from being, Oh, and four they should be.
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Oh, and four, they are a Dumpster fire, and it's it's why, no matter what you always get amped up to play the Dallas Cowboys.
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But when the Dallas Cowboys are reeling and scrambling and shouting and you know not doing things well in the media and everyone's pouring on them, it's just this perfect opportunity for the New York Giants to go in.
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And like just make this thing carnage inside of the Jerry world.
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You better believe it, man.
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The idea of now, listen, there's there's areas that things don't line up necessarily great for us, and that's okay there.
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Most weeks, there's things that online upgrade for us.
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But the fact that Dallas has been in this bit of a state of turmoil in the first four weeks of this season is about as juicy as it gets, because it means that even if we lose, we could somehow still win this weekend.
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You know, we can somehow still come out feeling really good based on what happened spot to to Dallas and based on even what's been happening before.
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We get to the matchup on Sunday and he talked to me about on the defensive side of the ball for for the Dallas Cowboys.
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Uh, Dexter Lawrence.
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He had a bit of a take.
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I thought that it was strong.
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I thought that it communicates, Ah, level of desire to get support from this from this fan base.
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Well, what's interesting is we have the right Lawrence in this one.
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Dexter Lawrence is on the New York Giants, but DeMarcus Lawrence on the other hand for any.
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Was there any chance that I was going to get that out with? No, There was. There was zero.
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I was fully prepared for that.
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So, um, I almost just I almost just said Dexter Lawrence again as I retrained my thoughts.
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Thanks for that, Adam.
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Thank Jamarcus Lawrence.
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Uh, you know, the All Pro previously? You know, Pro Bowler, defensive end for the Dallas Cowboys basically came out when fans were critical off the defense and said, Go f yourself basically to all of the Dallas fans.
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And when you sign a contract after having your big statistical years and then you play an entire season and you have half the production that you did before you signed the contract and then you play four games this year and you don't have a single sack, and I think you have 11 tackles with three assisted tackles, you know it's always the right thing to do is to turn it around on the fans that pay money to come see you playing by your jersey and tell them to go pound sand and cursing you on screen with them.
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I mean, that's got it's got to be in the handbook somewhere, right? Well, it might be in the Jerry Jones handbook.
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That guy's got a book that he wrote himself and he's following.
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He is following his own guidelines to the T.
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Listen, I think that, you know, fortunately, unfortunately, when you're a team that has big expectations, like Dallas, I can under I can understand being frustrated if you are that team right now, but I don't know.
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It's like being a kid, right? What? Your parents don't lash out at everybody else.
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If you made a mistake, just own your mistake and say that boy, I feel terrible that we're not getting You know, we're not playing better.
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We're not getting more wins or I feel terrible that I kick sand in Susie's eyes.
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I'm gonna go apologize Instead.
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Basically, DaMarcus is going over and being like, Yeah, and here's a mouthful of dirt to like It's just it's such an interesting choice after again.
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After a week after a game where Dallas is probably pretty frustrated internally and they're just spitting fire all around all around the for anyone that wants it, you stink.
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As a defense, you have to take the criticism as it comes to you, you can't turn it around and then double down and get defensive.
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It's funny because he's putting up more defense against the fans on social media than he is on the field on Sundays, which is ridiculous.
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They gave up almost a 50 burger to the Cleveland Browns.
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They gave up 300 yards on the ground.
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They were a sieve on defense, and the fans are upset.
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DeMarcus Lawrence has zero sacks.
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He is a sack specialist.
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He had 15 sacks, he had 10 or 11 sacks, then got paid his big contract in 20 something games.
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Since then, he said, five like this is all fair criticism that you need to take.
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If if you're three and one and the and the offense is carrying you, it's like, Listen, we're gonna turn it around.
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We got this.
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It's okay.
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You're one and three.
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That fan base has every right to be ****ed off, and for you to come out there and then turn it back on them like it's some affront to you as a human being is ludicrous on.
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And that's what makes the Dallas Cowboys so perfect is like he belongs as a Dallas cowboy, making $20 million yelling at the fans, mailing it in.
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I love it.
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I love every second of it.
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Now listen.
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The good news is for Dallas, for the defense is that cooler heads prevail when you get in front of that microphone.
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Listen, one of your teammates may pop a top.
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He may go off a little bit, and that's when you need someone to step in, settle things down and communicate back to the people.
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How.
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Listen, we are high motor guys.
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We are putting in the effort on a down to downplay, to play basis.
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Enter in Xavier Woods, who, I think, essentially, is saying 100.
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I give 100%.
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Most of the time.
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I'm not gonna.
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I'm not gonna go full speed every play.
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The direct quote, I believe, is nobody expects a guy in the NFL to play all 70 plays in a game.
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Come on, come on, friends, he says.
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This is the NFL.
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You know you can't expect us to go full on for 70 snaps.
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You just can't do it.
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And you know, I've heard a lot of different takes on this one, and it's funny because when I heard it, I did the same thing that a lot other people did.
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I'm like, Well, that's crazy.
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That's insane for him to say as a professional athlete, and then I'm like, Well, maybe people in the biz, they're gonna come back and be like, Listen, that's how it works.
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Like you kind of take plays off.
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You sneak yourself in, you get a little red like, resoundingly, former NFL players in the media or like this guy has literally lost his mind like like And then he was talking about He went on to say, Like, Listen, if you're the weak side corner back and the play goes to the other side like, I'm not gonna like, just trot over there just for the hell of it And the most and the most ironic thing about all this, Adam is this.
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All got brought up because of the Odell Beckham touchdown late in the game against the Cowboys, where it was a reverse play, which means the action is going to the strong side and they switch it up, go the play, then sweeps around and bubbles around to the weak side corner back.
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So he's basically saying like, Yeah, I'm a weak side.
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I'm gonna probably just mail it in.
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That's the play they scored a touchdown on.
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Like that is why people are upset.
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You are actually talking about the problem and every single foreign players like this guy's an idiot.
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This is ridiculous.
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You can't say this out loud.
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Yes, maybe you're tired and you're and you're trying to get to there.
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But you just don't have the energy to do it.
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Or, you know, maybe you're at the back of the pile and someone else has him wrapped up in your and your right there, just kind of protecting, but to actually come out and say like, I know I'm an athlete, but I'm just not gonna play hard like that is the most tone deaf thing you can say to a fan base that sees you giving up 50 points a game, right? You know who has played 100% of the snaps for the New York football giants in the secondary? Who's that? James Bradberry.
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Listen, and I'm not going to sit here and tell you what you know what goes on in a play to play basis in his mind and where things were going.
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But to your point, you just listen.
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And the biggest one is about that reverse.
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Rebecca, I'm like, No, you don't have to be going high motor 100 miles an hour on every play.
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But mentally, you got to be checked into the game mentally, you gotta know.
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Hey, there's potential.
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My job is to, at the very least trot my way down towards the weak side of this play on the back end of it, just in case so that I'm physically present able to be there.
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So it's obviously fun for us.
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I don't think it feels great for Dallas fans, right? Right now.
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Well, I was listening.
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Thio Brandon Marshall, uh, on his morning show talk.
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And he said something that I thought was a friend of the podcast.
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Yeah, a friend of the show. Right.
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Um you know, he basically said When you go in these coaching meetings, there's three things that that they look at One is assignment.
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Who are you assigned? Thio.
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If the play starts to move, the second thing is alignment.
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Are you in the right positions in this? If we're playing man or zone because you're not just in a vacuum in all this, And the third thing is effort.
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So, like, if you're not giving effort on every play, how do you know whether or not the alignment was off or he missed the assignment? Like you just you gotta go hard on every place so that when they turn on the film, you can't just look at every play that you didn't do it and be like, Well, yeah, I kind of nailed it in there like, Yeah, I didn't do this.
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Like, how do you evaluate talent if they're not trying their best on every play? That's actually a great point, right? Because in terms of this scheme, and if you're Dallas and you're playing poorly on defense, you're trying to get in the film room and say, Hey, where the mistake's how to be clean this up If Roe If Woods Excuse me, if you're supposed to be there on the back side of that play to break up the end around from Beckham, then that's a big success.
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The scheme works, right? We, Even though they tried to pull a tricky, tricky play on us, we were there in the right spot.
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We blew that up.
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That means that we can hang our hat on that going forward instead, you say.
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Well, I don't.
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Now, I know Maybe you weren't bothering to be there, and I also, but I don't know what the result was gonna be Had you been there where you're gonna get blown up by a block, where they gonna have, you know, blockers out in front there.
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What was that going to look like if you play it out at full speed? The craziest part about it.
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And it's just that one play that everyone's thinking about because it was the backbreaking play for the Cowboys.
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But the defensive lineman made Odell Beckham bubble the reverse 20 yards behind the line of scrimmage.
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So he's starting that play 20 yards behind the line of scrimmage.
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The defensive lineman did what he was supposed to dio.
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He just needs help from the other players to then be in position to make a play.
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And if you look at it, you look at Jaylin Smith just jogging around and, uh, you know, a friend of the podcast, David Hunter, huge cowboy fan.
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He came out and he was like, First thing I do is I sit down.
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Jaylin Smith.
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He's like the guy is over aggressive.
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He's going through his assignments because he's just trying to run toe wherever he thinks the ball is going to be, and it's crippling this defense and and and like, he's giving too much effort.
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You got Xavier Rhodes.
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That's like I'm playing half the snaps.
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You have DeMarcus Lawrence saying like Buzz off.
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I don't care what you guys think and it's like what is happening and all of this just makes me so happy at him again.
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It really it really does.
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Like I get great joy in seeing that the defense is an absolute Dumpster fire right now.
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It's a thing of beauty.
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Any time the Jerry world is in turmoil, I I feel a little bit better and it helps to create what we call a silver lining to what's been a difficult start to our season.
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All right, that was a lot of fun.
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I enjoyed myself thoroughly.
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Now as we do think about this from the Giants perspective, One of the things I'll say coming off of this Thursday night game between the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the Chicago Bears tweeted this out last night, where all at one point in the game, they showed how many penalties Tampa Bay had accrued.
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And that was 10.
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And I just said casually, listen, and this and this and this way we understand where we're hanging our hat on some on somethin hooks right now these days.
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But that would take the Giants 2.
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5 games to accrue that same number of penalties.
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We're playing really clean football and I love it.
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And I was also immediately frustrated by the fact that in spite of in spite of having 10 penalties for almost 120 yards Tampa Bay, they lost that game and by the way, you can look at those penalties and say This could be a great reason why we lost this game But there have committing all those penalties Now they are three and two but still winning football games and I just I would love to see the giant start to get rewarded for being committed, playing clean football, not making dumb comments in the press, staying connected like they're doing, they're doing so many great things from the rebuilding process under Joe Judge and I just feel like, Hey, we got at least ring that bell a couple of times and feel good about the things that we are doing well, well, it z a blessing and a curse, right? The Giants are playing smart ball, but it's not.
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It's not leading to anything like it would almost be like.
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Okay, penalties.
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We are shooting ourselves in the foot.
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If we clean that up, we can move the ball down the field.
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But that's not the case.
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And that kind of bleeds into what are offensive coordinator Jason Garrett is trying to figure out.
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You know, it's one of those things where if it's all about penalties, it's easy to say if we clean these up, if we put it in the right technique, we know where we need to go as a team.
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Yeah, Jason Garrett came out after four games and said, Yeah, we're still trying to figure out what works for us on offense and and I I saw this and I got angry because I I kind of took what he said and ran with it further into what he actually meant you've kind of tried to pull me back in a little bit.
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But tell me what your thoughts are on Jason Garrett saying he's still trying to figure out what works for the offense.
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Yeah, I mean, listen, maybe not dissimilar.
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Dissimilar.
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Lee toe What? We're talking about the Dallas side of things the way that you communicate something to the press.
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When, when you're talking about a specific area of the game, when I look at Jason Garrett, what I really think you're hearing is you know, I've got Nick Gates, a player that I've watched film on but not at center.
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So I'm still learning what he's best suited to do with that particular position.
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I'm still now looking in the absence of, say, Kwame Barkley and bringing in Devante Freeman.
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Okay, Now I have Goldman.
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I have Freeman.
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I have Lewis.
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What is our best way to attack using this rotational back system, something we didn't plan on coming into the year? I don't have Sterling Shepard.
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I'm trying to figure out how do we create separation for a wide receivers, an area that we struggled in, and on top of which I'm also looking at Evan Ingram and what a lot of Giants fans probably know.
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Coming into it and saying, Well, on paper, on tape, I see a guy that's a freak athlete and a mismatch and a nightmare for defense is.
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But if he's not gonna catch the ball, if he's not gonna be able to be productive, if you can't contribute in the blocking game, all of a sudden it diminishes the value of this great piece that I had.
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So, for better or worse, Jason Garrett, I think, is really going through the growing pains off of learning what players are best suited to do.
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And then collectively, don't forget, rookie left tackle is well, so you're still trying to also figure out how are we utilizing this offensive line unit and creating opportunities not just for receivers for running backs, but also for Daniel Jones, which extends to him being able to be mobile and get out of the pockets.
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So I think there's a lot of factors that the Garretts alluding to there and I understand the idea of Don't don't say it in the way that makes it sound like you don't know what's going on, and that's that's the way it comes across.
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Well, and that's what makes me so Adam adamant about this because it s so Adam were also, I know.
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But it makes me so angry, too.
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And like you explained what he probably meant, and I totally get that.
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But the way that I take it as a fan and someone that really follows this team closely is like guys, I don't know what I'm doing.
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Like, I haven't figured it out yet.
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I, uh and like going into the Dallas game, it feels like we don't even have a plan because he's like, I don't know what works for this team.
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So we're still working like it's one thing to say you're a work in progress.
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It's another thing to say.
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Like I still haven't figured out any way to be successful, which we already knew.
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Jason Garrett.
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Because you're scoring 11 points a game like you don't need to come out and say, like, I don't have a clue how this team works, Like we already saw it on paper.
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The stats don't lie.
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You don't need to tell me you don't need to rub my nose in it like I'm a dog that actually peed on the carpet like I clearly understand this.
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It's baffling to me and like what other frustrating piece of it is and and maybe he is trying to make adjustments.
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I don't see those adjustments.
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We don't run enough motion on offense were one of the least least pre snap motion teams in the entire league.
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We also don't run Zone reads for Daniel Jones at all, mentioned it on the last podcast.
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We run the ball on first down, up the gut for two yards every time.
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And this is something that Cowboy fans were so angry at.
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Jason Garrett for.
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He is like a robot.
00:24:27
He is a robot when things start going awry.
00:24:30
He has trouble getting creative and starting to pivot.
00:24:33
And that was one of the big problems that Dallas had.
00:24:36
Now they're stuck with Mike McCarthy, for better or for worse, you know, and and Jason Garrett is beloved by the players that play for him.
00:24:44
But man, is it frustrating when he says, I still don't know what works and we're like, Yeah, we know we see that happening well and there's a difference, too, I would say like you go back to Dallas days for? For Jason Garrett, where you'd say, Well, behind that offensive line, Yeah, running on first down, go up the gut, get me a handful of yards, right? Like it makes sense to build your drives that way because that is your strength on that line for the Giants.
00:25:07
Obviously again, you're you're trying to do both what makes sense and what should be the plan of attack and then adjusting for what is the current state of things across this roster.
00:25:16
What I will say is, you go back to last week.
00:25:18
I think you did see some or pre snap motion, especially with the tight ends rotating from left to right side of the line.
00:25:24
You had anger in the backfield for stretches again.
00:25:27
I do think this is an evolving thing in terms of the playbook for this team as well.
00:25:31
Now, to your point, I would probably now look in this game and want to see some more R P O options for Daniel Jones.
00:25:38
We've now seen in a couple of weeks back to back here that him using his legs is obviously a strength and we knew that it.
00:25:45
Waas.
00:25:46
The question is, can you design it in a way? And I understand it from the standpoint to If I was behind the curtain here with Joe Judge and this offensive staff, I also understand the idea off.
00:25:55
Okay, there's a strength here and Daniel Jones and his legs, but we need to make sure that when we put him in these positions to utilize those legs, it's not going to be left or right side of the line is collapsing.
00:26:07
And as he wants to get to the edge, he's getting blown up by a defensive lineman.
00:26:11
He's getting speared down by a safety there is.
00:26:14
You know, this is about trying to protect him at the same time.
00:26:17
And unfortunately, unlike Dallas over previous years, where you had again offensive line play, you know that that solid, you know that you can lean on that.
00:26:24
We don't have that just yet right now.
00:26:26
So there's a risk reward factor there as well.
00:26:29
I think as things move along here, you will see it open up a little bit.
00:26:33
You will see the playbook continue to expand.
00:26:35
So I'm gonna I'm gonna hold off here for a minute.
00:26:37
There's definitely I'm on the precipice of getting frustrated with Jason Garrett, but as of right now, I just need to see what happens here, because I I I can't say that them scoring 11 points on average per game is solely based on what the scheme is that the running.
00:26:51
I think it's just about the sum of the parts and where they are right now.
00:26:54
And uh, I'll say to Patrick Graham having so much success defensively, it's a lot easier to have your scheme and then mix and match plug and play with different pieces on the defensive side of the ball, as opposed to offensively, because you can't just rotate in random, different offensive lot.
00:27:10
You know you're not going well, starting Gates at center for two plays, and then I'll bring in Spencer Poli for one.
00:27:14
You know those air red flag signals? One that you don't have an offensive line, and two that the defense can then key off on what you're looking to do.
00:27:21
Wanna give them play? My my simple answer is Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen.
00:27:27
Their coaching staffs have figured out how to incorporate Mawr design place for them to get out in space.
00:27:33
And to be honest with you, they're far more valuable to their teams than Daniel Jones is.
00:27:38
And so, while we wanna make sure to protect him and figure things out, they have clearly figured it out in both Baltimore and Buffalo, with those two guys flourishing.
00:27:47
One is the M V P from last year.
00:27:49
The other one is like top three in the M V P voting for the for this year.
00:27:53
Offensive line play, though again, that's what comes back to both.
00:27:56
Those teams have solid offensive lines in front of those guys, so that gives them the opportunity.
00:28:00
Now I again I I still agree with you that if you get Daniel Jones out on the perimeter and give him some looks at Evan Ingram just running a traditional crossing route and then he can make his choice about running for a handful of yards or dumping off a very easy lay off past that's going to help this offensive line is gonna mitigate some of the risk of having a growing learning offensive line.
00:28:20
So I understand that side of it.
00:28:21
But again, when we compare them to other mobile quarterbacks, It's like saying, Well, why don't you just Russell Wilson on that guy's got great like, Well, yeah, but you know, it isn't It isn't where Daniel Jones is right now.
00:28:31
It's not where this offenses right now.
00:28:32
Yeah, but But Adam, here's the problem for me because we use it as an excuse for everything that we do on offense.
00:28:38
It's like, Why don't we get Daniel Jones, Adam or run? Pass option? Well, we don't have the offensive line for that, Okay? Why don't we drop back and try to stretch the field vertically and get and get? Why receivers out open in space? Oh, well, our offensive line isn't good enough to do that.
00:28:53
Okay, Well, then let's run the ball and have a power run game and establish the run and get yards.
00:28:58
Oh, well, we don't have an offensive line to do that like, Okay, I get it.
00:29:02
But But if we can't throw the ball deep, if we can't get Daniel Jones out in space, we can't run the ball like we already know. The offensive line is good.
00:29:09
Figure something out.
00:29:11
There has to be something different that you can try, and until they try that I'm going to be frustrated with how things were going.
00:29:18
I agree.
00:29:19
I do agree with you and but I'll say it doesn't.
00:29:22
You don't have to just say it's the offensive line.
00:29:24
You can also say it's a depleted wide receiver cord.
00:29:26
You can also say it's a depleted, you know, losing your number one best running back in the NFL as your primary weapon in this offenses.
00:29:33
Well, so those things hurt, too.
00:29:35
And that's again to bring it back to Garrett and what this offense is doing or not doing now, over these next four games, like we just talked about from Wednesday, right, first quarter is done.
00:29:43
The 1st 15 minutes of our season or over were into that second quarter of the year.
00:29:47
And now, having lost some of these weapons now, I'll start to look to see what is Jason Garrett been doing during the week? And how are we translated onto the field for what the roster now looks like going forward? Um, listen, there's a couple other knows and knows that we could get into around this game and expectations specifically about what this Dallas defense is look like and where maybe we can excel.
00:30:06
I will throw out one little caveat.
00:30:07
Footnote here because we're talking offensively.
00:30:10
There is also the rumor around trade deadline possibilities, and we highlighted this in the middle of the week around some guys that you might find on the block allegedly supposedly speculatively.
00:30:21
Golden tape has been possibly highlighted as a target for the New England Patriots before the trade deadline to bring in and hopefully pair with a cam Newton comes back healthy, obviously, after the positive test for Cove in 19 asymptomatic.
00:30:39
Good for him.
00:30:40
Leave it.
00:30:41
Leave it at that.
00:30:42
We don't want players to be unhealthy, no matter if they are are hated Super Bowl rivals.
00:30:45
Uh, would that be something that would tantalize you wouldn't tickle your taste buds? And do you think that a team like New England who is very willing to give up assets for something and they they feel like they can always recoup those? Do you think we could get highest market value for someone like Golden Tate? Because New England is in a Hey, we really wanna have a security blanket weapon in our offense for Newton? Yeah, I mean, I'm all for any of you know, non cornerstone players and finding out what their market value is.
00:31:13
It, you know, we're going for this is gonna be a tough game.
00:31:16
Where 10 or 10 point underdogs against the Cowboys coming in.
00:31:19
So people are presuming that we're gonna be owned five.
00:31:22
At that point, everyone needs to be evaluated on the roster.
00:31:25
We're building for the future.
00:31:26
Get as many assets as you can.
00:31:28
I'm fine with any any type of pick that we could get for someone like golden tape.
00:31:33
Fantastic.
00:31:34
You're in total agreement with me.
00:31:35
Good to know.
00:31:36
Uh, now, specifically, around the matchup on Sunday for the Giants, we talked about how the little bit dysfunction there on the Dallas side of things for the defense, you mentioned 300 yards given up on the ground.
00:31:48
Dallas surrenders 430 yards a game.
00:31:51
They surrender 258 passing yards per game and they're averaging now with a really ugly performance there 172 yards rushing on the defensive side of the ball.
00:32:01
When you think about those numbers, even the even you talk about the 2 58 there on the passing side of things is still good for 10th worst.
00:32:09
They're one of the top, or bottom for defense is in the league.
00:32:13
Do you think that? And where do you think the Giants should go here is far as who's the running back that needs to make a big statement This game for the Giants? Who is the receiver that can have a big day here? How do they attack? Ah, suspect defense early so that you avoid getting into a big hole and having to play from behind something that I think, well, then lend itself for Dallas to be able to, you know, recover their defensive identity.
00:32:37
So this is an interesting matchup outside of it being the Dallas Cowboys because of you know, what their strengths are, what our strengths are and what their weaknesses are, and vice versa.
00:32:47
So they are terrible run defense.
00:32:51
The problem is, we're last in the league in rushing, right? So, like, you know, if we have rushing attack, you could sit there and say, we're gonna pound that rock, and we're gonna shove it down their throat until they either stacked the box and leave single coverage on the outside like they'll have to do something to make adjustments.
00:33:07
We don't necessarily have that as an option, which is is frustrating.
00:33:10
You then look at it like we're really good at run defense and their offensive line is so banged up.
00:33:17
You know, Frederick retired in the off season, while Collins is on IR Tyron Smith.
00:33:21
It looks like he's not gonna play.
00:33:23
They They're so banged up on the offensive line.
00:33:25
Ezekiel Elliott looks like a shell of himself, 3.
00:33:28
9 yards, a carry on behind just a normal offensive line.
00:33:32
But they throw the ball well.
00:33:35
They Dak Prescott is on pace to throw for over 60 arts like they have three wide receivers.
00:33:42
All three of them would be the number one wide receiver on the New York Giants.
00:33:46
Right now, they're passing.
00:33:47
Attack is tremendous, and we only have one cornerback that can protect against that.
00:33:52
So, like as much as that, the Cowboys haven't looked good, the Giants don't have the type of structure right now that I think lends itself to take advantage of the challenges that the Cowboys present.
00:34:06
Do you think that on the defensive side of the ball for the New York Giants.
00:34:09
You talk about how successful, obviously they've been to the passing attack with that Prescott.
00:34:14
Do you anticipate Patrick Graham trying to utilize some of those zone looks and really may be taking a look and saying, Hey, defensive front, we need you toe try to occupy this offensive line that we can say is, at least has taken a little bit of a step back.
00:34:28
There's still a strong unit, but they're not the same front five that they were over the last, say, four or five years.
00:34:34
Do you think they try to occupy upfront and then utilize a multitude of linebackers and secondary players and say, Listen, let's just bubble out here and try to in a lot of ways, and I know this is gonna probably stick in your craw because I wouldn't be shocked.
00:34:49
If you see Patrick Graham say, Hey, you know what we want to dio make them earn their way down the field.
00:34:54
Even if it's in 7 to 12 yard chunks at a time, let's just not give up the big plays quickly and force them to have toe have 5 to 78 minute drives in order to get points on the board, because that's how we keep ourselves competitive and hopefully that the offense keep us in this game, right? We need to keep this game in the twenties if we're gonna be a part of it.
00:35:13
It can't be getting up to the late, you know, later twenties, early thirties.
00:35:16
There in terms of Dallas score.
00:35:17
So coincidentally, the way that I think the Giants win this game is they force Dak Prescott to throw the ball as much as possible.
00:35:27
And I know that sounds crazy.
00:35:28
You're like what he's throwing for 6000 yards.
00:35:30
Like the reason why is while he's on pace for 6000 yards and their one and three and they're an onside kick away from being oh, and four, right.
00:35:37
So, like the formula off stopping the run, not letting Zeke Elliot get going and eliminate the time of possession battle from being a struggle.
00:35:48
Like every time they throw the ball, there's a risk. It stops the clock.
00:35:52
They're not moving the chains, all that different stuff.
00:35:54
They've been turning the ball over really costly times for for their team on offense.
00:35:59
For me, it's Listen, Doc may throw for 3 54 104 50 against our defense.
00:36:05
If we if we stop the run game and we eliminate the time of possession and we try toe manage the clock a little bit more effectively, I think that's our best opportunity to win.
00:36:15
Yeah, you wanna make them one dimensional, right? Whatever. Whatever.
00:36:18
Look, that think you think you're best suited to Dio.
00:36:20
And I guess, to your point, if you say hey, where we weakest in our secondary? So let's not try Thio shut down the passing attack because that's gonna be the harder thing for us to dio.
00:36:30
Let's excel at locking down the run game where, incidentally, I don't I didn't realize this, but a lot of the kind of out there in the in the Twitter sphere out there in the media is the idea that that a player like Ezekiel Elliott is getting old in a hurry.
00:36:43
Are you seeing that? Are you seeing the tires kind of run a little bit, a little bit soft there for him and? And is that not even in this game? But just in general, is that a really telling sign for where he's headed right now.
00:36:55
I mean, you hate to say it is that also made predictive about what we could be concerned about when it comes to, say, Kwan, Barkley, they have really written him into the ground there in Dallas over the last handful of years to carry numbers are high for him.
00:37:07
So, as I said before, I pick the brain of Dallas Cowboy fan Dave Hunter all week this week to try to get some of this inside cause I said, Man, Zeke Elliot, 3.
00:37:16
9 yards of carry.
00:37:17
That is not very Zeke esque.
00:37:19
He's like, Well, we could We have a ton of other problems other than Zeke Elliot right now, but it is interesting to think that, you know he's averaging under four yards to carry this offensive line is beat up.
00:37:30
You know, they for years had easily the best offensive line in football.
00:37:36
Now they're kind of peace milling it together, and cowboy fans are feeling the struggle that giant fans have had for years.
00:37:41
Where it's like it's turnstiles, guys air not being able to handle their assignments and they're not able to get the run game going.
00:37:48
I do find it interesting.
00:37:50
You know, they they do say that running backs just like kind of fall for Cliff.
00:37:53
I think it's Mawr.
00:37:55
And this, this was to Dave's point is that people go to Dallas to get the bag and chill.
00:38:02
That is, like their ultimate goal.
00:38:03
Like they go, they get that big contract and then they sit back with the star on their and their, you know, loved in the town.
00:38:11
And they're making all the money.
00:38:12
Look into Marcus Lawrence.
00:38:14
Look, atsic, Elliott.
00:38:15
They paid both of them and since they paid both of them, they have not performed well, it's so weird to think about going back to the, you know, to the Troy Aikman days, right? I mean, this is when you had the superstars on that roster.
00:38:30
You know, you're talking about Emmitt Smith and you're talking about the wide receiving corps and just being like you look at all the weapons and the talent, but they were so in a good way.
00:38:38
I mean, it's gonna cause a compliment.
00:38:39
They were so ego driven about winning, about wanting to win, that that's what fueled them, and it is always worth it.
00:38:45
And actually, if you go back to this contract, I think you actually really lucked out when you had Troy Aikman and he was using Evan Smith so much.
00:38:52
The value of those contracts and what you were getting on return was actually done really well by Dallas at the time.
00:38:57
But you don't have that same mentality.
00:38:58
It seems like, right.
00:38:59
I think that probably has that, actually.
00:39:01
But I don't know if all the pieces around him agree with it, and that's when you start to think about, you know, is back there for the long haul.
00:39:08
You assume so.
00:39:09
But if I was back and I really wanted toe win, I'm you know, I might look at my options out there because you know you're gonna have suitors for a player like him coming off of what's gonna be a monster statistical season.
00:39:20
Well, you talk about Troy Aikman.
00:39:22
You know, it's bad for the Dallas Cowboys when Troy Aikman comes out and he's like, No, I call Bs on everything that you guys are saying is coaching staff, like they're like, Oh, we're like one play away from from being really competitive on defense.
00:39:35
One missed assignment.
00:39:36
We would have been in the game trying things like, Who are you guys trying to fool? Like usually he's He kind of goes with the Dallas Cowboy message.
00:39:45
Doesn't want to upset the apple cart with Jerry, and this time he's like, No, Colombe s not good enough.
00:39:50
You guys need to fix whatever is going on there.
00:39:52
And so when ah, legend like Troy Aikman comes out and calls out the team and the coaches and the players, you know things.
00:39:59
Aaron.
00:40:00
Turmoil in Dallas and listen.
00:40:01
It'll be interesting to watch on Sunday because again, going back to it close game there could have lost it on the on side kick against the Falcons.
00:40:08
But they have played the Rams, the Falcons, the Seahawks and the Browns.
00:40:12
Now there's two sides of this coin.
00:40:14
None of those defense's are particularly strong.
00:40:17
Rams would be the strongest one.
00:40:19
They lost that game 22 17 early, so you can look at that and say, Hey, better defensive play.
00:40:24
You can control this offensive little bit, and then the flip side of it would be if you want to go concerning from a giant standpoint.
00:40:31
Obviously, all of those teams are strong offensively, especially the Falcons, especially Seattle, even the Browns in week forward.
00:40:38
By that point, they really turned things around a bit.
00:40:41
So surrendering as many points as they have those numbers can get skewed a little bit.
00:40:45
I think that for us, it's gonna fall somewhere in the middle, trending on the lower side.
00:40:50
But there's opportunities here.
00:40:51
I think that this could still be a really competitive game come Sunday, hopefully for the sake of Big Blue that my friends will wrap up a Friday edition of the O. G. P.
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