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Uh, fun show second show of the week.
Technically, the third of the account yesterday are stepping in on Wednesday to say hello to our Wednesday audience on.
We'll have a little bit more on that later.
But on this card we're gonna preview one of the fights that I'm looking forward to with Corey San Hagen and Marlon Mariah's.
And then we'll go over some of the latest news.
GSP wants back in, uh, Dan Hardy.
He might want back in Tony Ferguson.
He wants to get paid, and then a really, really nice perspective on interview that was done by Michael Kiesa regarding fighting Uh um Zat Shaimiyev and why some welterweights may or may not be open to that more than likely not open to it.
But it was an interesting article.
I really enjoyed it.
I'm such a fan off Michael Kiesa.
So we'll cover all that.
It's intimate junkie radio on a Thursday, October 8th.
Alright, folks, I forgot to tell you.
Um, listen, we're here with with you guys for the next hour, and James Kraus will also join us.
Welterweight will join it towards the end of the show.
Still ironing the kinks out on our intro.
I probably should have just told you that about 30 seconds ago.
But James Kraus, uh, one of them has become the master of picking fights on lane, a late notice that fights really only a couple weeks away.
So kudos to him.
Alright goes mhm.
We will take it in sequential order.
We'll talk about San Hagen and riots towards the end.
Let's talk about Tony Ferguson.
He wants to get paid.
Um, have you thought if you let that simmer a little bit, is he in the right? Dustin Pedroia got paid, so whatever he did was right.
But we don't know what what kind of bumps and raises these guys are asking.
But what are your thoughts now? 24 hours later, after hearing what he said and how vocal he was without really knowing how much he wants.
It's hard to say.
But if you were to ask me based on the last fight, does he deserve some sort of bump? Yeah, I would say so.
I mean, they got a bonus for that fight.
I have to imagine.
So if you're the UFC you're thinking, What the hell do you think that bonus was? You know that, in a way is a little bit of a bomb, But at the same time, he did everything they asked him to do When Dana White, when you're watching um, Dana White's contender syriza thing that he asked for his fighters that he wants them to have are pretty much all the things that Tony Ferguson has.
So he's doing everything that they're asking of him.
But at the same time, I don't know that you could really ask for a huge raise off of a loss, right? Had it been a win, then? Yeah, Okay.
Eso without really knowing the numbers, I just don't think you can do that little bit of okay.
What about his approach is out there clowning Chandler more specifically.
And Chandler also pushed back, all starting each word with in caps, which I thought was pretty brilliant because that's how Tony addresses. People.
Eat, capitalizes the first word, the first letter of every word, basically, along the lines of Dude, you had a chance to sign on the biggest card of the year.
Like now you're talking.
It's probably not making any sense of Michael Chandler because he's really not one.
Never back away from a fight or anything like that.
That dude is funny because he's one of the like, most genuinely nice guys ever like.
I don't even think I really heard him say a curse word or anything like that.
But he also knows how to get nasty and how toe sell a fight and how to talk smack.
He's very competitive guy, so I'm sure, I mean, even though everything Tony Ferguson said was no disrespect, all that stuff like it doesn't matter.
It's It's more of the words that you say after and I find with Michael Chandler.
I would have taken a fence to a lot of that stuff, So I'm glad he stood up for himself and he did call that out a little bit in the fact that it's a huge car like people would wanna fight on that card.
That makes very little sense to him, but I'm glad he did it.
I would like to see that fight, but when you look at Michael Chandler and his skill set, I kind of want to see other fights before the Tony Ferguson matchup.
Like I think I think it would be fun.
But I think there's other fights.
Was part of you hoping that if boy just got paid in, Ferguson got paid.
One of those is flying Abu Dhabi and fighting Chandler.
Yeah, I really like the Dust Employees fight.
I think that would be amazing.
Those two guys, that skill set it would be a great blend of, I think, the ground game and just them kind of going at it.
They both have very good striking.
I think that would be an interesting fight.
What if Chandler has spies at Habib's Camp Gauges camp Finds out these guys have never looked better or felt healthier weights on point.
And Chandler has just been like this.
Yeah, I'm just gonna fly.
I'm gonna make weight.
I'm not even training much.
And then all of a sudden they go, you're fighting Ferguson.
He's got to do a two weekend off course.
That's the opposite of how Michael Chandler works, but I just can't imagine what kind of ah boy, I don't even know how to trim this word down.
I don't like to cuss if I don't have to.
But basically, what's another word for a mind? ****, um, to train for two different types of styles, right? Because maybe wants to primarily wrestle J.
So Jason, just engaging, wants to primarily strike.
Just engaging can wrestle, and he'll be can strike.
But they have missions, and for Chandler, it's it's not.
It's not that he needs the work.
Oh, on the sprawl or the under hooks or the risk control to stop a beef.
Of course he does.
He probably to do that pretty much for every fighter and then for striking. Same thing.
He gets his mitt working.
He does all those techniques, but just the mindset of who you're going in against.
I'd like to know for eight weeks, put that guys pick on my fridge and stare at him every time I know I got to take out broccoli and chicken and drink water and and, you know, because I'm taking it out on that dude's face.
Yeah, I can think of is like as a kid, when your parents would tell you, Hey, if you do your chores, you get to go to this concert or whatever, but every now and again they would.
They would throw in that.
If you watch the car or something, maybe we'll take you to Disneyland like you kind of would think about it.
Maybe I just go with my friends because I don't like that.
So for me, it doesn't.
It doesn't matter who you are.
It's hard for me for me to believe that somebody is putting 100% in tow.
Everything when it's really a maybe I get human nature to maybe pull back a little bit just a little bit.
And I love the insurance bookings because you saw what happened with Gilbert Burns.
And tomorrow Guzman Gilbert Burns contracted CO vid 19.
And so, with about 10 days before the one of the biggest cards of the year, the first one in Yas Island Fight Island, Jorge Mas Vidal was able to step in now.
We had communicated with Jorge throughout the first part of the pandemic, and one of his coaches actually lives with him.
So he was He was staying in shape.
He thought he could catch a break.
He wasn't. They weren't able to meet his number.
He wanted to get paid a certain amount of money, but he was staying in shape just in case he goes out there.
Didn't go his way.
But I still gotta believe that Jorge Mas without, with at least 6 to 8 weeks, I'm not saying he beats Kamarulzaman because Kamarulzaman so far showing me that he's pretty **** good.
But I think he has a better showing.
Yeah, you guys would agree.
I think if you asked him on tell the truth, you give him a truth serum.
Mas Vidal fans, everyone.
Dana, they'd all They would all say the same thing.
We can't guarantee that I was little wins that, but it would be a better showing.
It definitely has to be a better showing, but yeah, there's no guarantee at all.
Yeah, all right.
I got a couple of audio concerns here that I got to take care of, but real fast talk about GSP.
He's dabbling about wanting to get in, wanting to get out.
You feeling all this or come on.
I thought we had heard through our sources that he was kind of done.
I mean, look, most people, I think, would be a little frustrated when, uh when he teases these type of things, But to me, without him doing that, it just goes back to GSB just being retired.
And I don't know that I want that.
I mean, if the dude is the dude is saying that he still has it, I tend to agree with what he said, you know, maybe in 115 years, he might regret not taking this opportunity.
If in fact he really does have it.
Here's the thing.
Nobody can beat father time, and GSP doesn't just take fights like he's taking.
If you hear GSP, his name is tied to some of the best in the sport.
And to beat the best in the sport, you gotta be on your game.
I mean, like in the gym every day, watching film, doing these types of things.
I think GSP did all that when he was a very active fighter.
But, I mean, it's human nature to just kind of take your foot off the gas a little bit here, being semi retired.
I don't know, man, I don't know, like I don't know if he if he has that still in him, that would be pretty insane.
And then it becomes in and just gets destroyed or something.
Um, boy, that legacy takes a little bit of a shot, you know? And the one thing that he's always had is just keeping the streak intact here for a while now, right? It's been a while since he's lost, and he kind of went out the way.
He kind of put the blueprint out there for other fighters where I think other fighters go.
I wish I would have gone out the way GSP did.
That kind of goes away.
If he comes back and takes a fight, gets starched.
I mean, he did well against Michael Bisping Michael businesses another guy that was kind of on his way out, but still a tough fighter.
And it was a weight class above I just don't know.
I honestly don't know what I would tell Michael.
Sorry, Gsb, but I do like the fact that he's okay with putting his name out there.
He's okay with doing interviews and teasing things, and I'm fine with that.
Yeah, I'll take it.
Um, I just don't know how serious he is, and I don't know, a couple of thoughts go through my head.
One is that bank account dwindling.
But, you know, I can't really, like harp on that too much because I don't know, maybe he invested and has three or four homes.
And, you know, it has done well in the real estate market, the stock market and other type of investment.
Maybe he owns a franchise of a POLA or something.
Who knows? Um, but if he you know, I don't see him too much, he's not too much of a public figure.
Maybe he does speaking engagements, but nothing probably pays him like he got paid in m m a.
And so then I wonder if he does one of these when he sees what some of these guys they're getting paid now and knowing that he's if he's gonna fight somebody like hubby or Connor, he might double his net worth just off that one fight? Exactly.
He might double is worth off that one fight, and if so, that's gotta be attractive.
You know, I starved myself for eight weeks.
Like I've done that before.
I make the way I talk to those but foods from junkie and fighting and shirt on.
Okay, Yeah, yeah, I've done that.
Um, get punched in the face.
Feel a little bit of blood. Okay.
Yeah, I remember conduct kicking me upside the head and a few of the other guys.
You know, uh, Sarah, of course.
I could do that for 5 to 10 mil I got.
Imagine the number would be in that area, you know, with with the paper views and everything.
Um, so that that part of them might be attract member, as you know, how you ever see when people.
I mean, I'm older than you by almost a decade, and I'm sure I've said it before, but just you're around some of our uncles or some of our friends that are older.
And, um what did they say? As I get older, I give us ****s, You know about certain things.
He may not even care about being knocked out and being a memo.
Are he cares? George? He.
But he's already like he's already like on a Mount Rushmore.
Some column The goat, of course.
Could this take away from it? May be, But think about it.
If he'll be, beats him.
He's like, 38 or 39.
He'll probably have that caveat.
He'll have that passive like it wasn't even in his prime.
He just kind of did it to grab some money the same way.
Nobody really holds those losses for Durant at the very end, you know, or some of those aging boxers like nobody brings those up.
You talk about more about their heyday, you know what I mean? Not the ones where you just knew that they were walking into a buzz saw.
Um, so, like I say, his his legacy is already cemented.
Um, I don't know.
I know he'll want I know he'll want to go in there with the frame the mind frame of I want to win.
Yes, I agree with you there.
I know that z where you're headed, but you know, another thing you said was how do you break down the film on Habib.
If you're GSP, you know, if you just tell for as a hobby, let's let's look at the times he lost.
What did those guys dio? He's never lost.
That guy's impeccable.
He's barely locked rounds.
You know he will be a bigger guy than hobby, though I think even when the layoff he could argue that he might have better stand up.
Then he'll be even to this day.
He keeps getting better and better, but he might have that and his wrestling for mm a was right up there.
You know what I mean? If you say name five guys that used your they're wrestling to dominate, for sure have even GSP come out of your mouth and then a few others.
So maybe it's more winnable than we think, especially again because he's a bigger cat.
I agree with a lot of what you said, but I think one of the differences here is yeah, I get it.
If he comes back and takes a lot of people going to say, Man, he's older.
Thean end of his career.
However, the one guy that he would probably be taking a loss against is a guy that's in that same talk with him.
So when you're trying to figure out who the goat is, a lot of people have it as GSP right now, But he has a win over and then it's very easy.
When we get to that point, we just go.
Yeah, but this guy beat back.
That kind of just knocks him right off.
You go to sleep over that, though, I think he does.
I really think he's a martial artist.
Uh, I don't want to say came up from nothing, but he had humble beginning.
I could see Floyd not liking somebody making more money than him, you know, breaking those types of records or whatever.
But, you know, even Floyd doesn't get talked about being the best fighter of all time.
Best boxer of all time.
And he was 50 you know.
Um, so I I don't know.
I think it may bother.
I don't think just gets too worried about.
I think it's a nice compliment when you give it to him.
He's probably heard it a million times, but if if you side with John Jones and then GSP you know our or whoever else is in the mix, you know, maybe even help Eve.
Now, I don't know than I don't I don't know.
I don't think he's too freaked out about it.
Because if he was willing to pass up that fight against Anderson Silva if he was willing to step away from the game for so many years, um, the limelight didn't really seem to be what drew him in.
You know what I mean? Here's what I would do if I were.
You have seen they got money.
It's just whether they want to spend it or not.
I would actually give the type of five.
If I'm GSP that I think you come back for.
It's Connor McGregor.
It's very, very high profile.
There's a lot of money involved, Um, but here is the thing that's interesting and all that.
If he beats Connor McGregor, which I think a lot of people, even at this point in his career, would expect them to probably do that.
Connor is still a good skin like when you look at Connor's stats.
Those were good stats.
You know he's lost some big fights, but it's still a really good win.
That actually helps a little bit.
Um, you're not risking all that much, but if I were the UFC, I would sell it this way.
Whoever can win that fight, get Toby, just almost have you for about a year and a half.
Just glued to your computer to your TV, wondering how all this is gonna play out hell, even it should open £165 division.
And I think for sure you could draw back to us because now you're now you're talking about a third weight class and that would be pretty historic for GSP.
In fact, it would be pretty historic for Connor McGregor as well, because he's 45 55 g s p was 70 and 85 and Habib, you know, obviously I think he would not mind getting thrown in that mix.
He had a couple of rough way cuts, so 65 for him would be attractive for him to add two things.
But he's got that perfect zero in the loss column.
So now again, Habib doesn't strike me as too worried about if you refer to him as the goaded or not just pee either.
Is he Yes, Jones.
I think it's what would like that. A swell.
You know, Jones is a little bipolar to me, where sometimes he's he makes it sound like I'm just over here chilling living.
And then there's other times where you could tell that egos there, especially on fight night when other guys were getting shine.
Well, look again.
I think we do this every two months.
We get caught in this web, and now I just want to get out of it because he has to get into a six month USADA pool.
Herbie has already got G.
McGregor might have foyer.
I don't know where so far away from it that what's the point? You know what I mean? Yeah, it's fun to talk about because it's a party that might be another Web.
I know. We talked to him recently.
He gave us what he always gives us, and that's the fact that he's got the competitive juices.
But then, when we were doing a spinning back click recently on M.
M, a junkie we talked about, I think you pitched it.
What? What could we do for Carlos Condit and you throughout the Hardy angle.
And I think since then Hardy, who's been out there and White Island connected with the media and Farrah John, somebody loved the question in his way.
And he was all ears.
Yeah, that was something that I knew on spending back.
Click the guys below me where you know, there's a Nick Diaz of the world.
I can't remember somebody, actually, uh, Matt Brown's those makes sense to me, but really, I thought thinking outside the box, that would be so much fun.
We've heard him talk about that fight and how much it kind of bugged him.
At one point, he said at one point, it didn't bug him, and then it started to bug him, so he's always teased the possibility of coming back.
So I figured that might actually be a lot of fun if we can figure out the Dan Hardy situation.
That's the thing with mixed martial arts, and I think we've done it quite a few times already on the show.
There's a lot of ifs, but if in fact, he can be cleared to come back, I think that's a perfect fight for both guys.
I think that would be a lot of fun.
And, um and I would imagine Dana putting the ringside right, because it was my idea.
It was your idea.
Um, I see more gray hairs on Dan Hardy's dome before we had that cool Mohawk.
Um, but I see some more gray hairs there.
So better hurry up if he wants to get one more of those in.
You don't wanna be Renzo Gracie mid forties.
You know when you could do it in your late thirties? Um, but all right, let's sneak one more here, and then we'll talk about Michael Kiesa and how you addressed the fighting or not fighting homes. Oceania.
Corey Anderson's book to fight Melvin Man Hoff Is this just typical Rich Chow and Scott Coker? I mean, the set up fights remember ****ey when he was trying to protect Rocky? It just it smells of that man.
Half is decorated kickboxer been in m. M. A.
Has given us some exciting fights.
I was referencing on an interview I did recently with Phil.
An ******* return to the ox who I might have butchered returned to the hexagon.
He's doing a podcast series that has to do with the history.
Strikeforce! There you go.
And we were talking about some of those exciting fights like Daily and Diaz Diaz, KJ noons, Baroni and Shamrock and man Hoff Lawler.
You know, there was some good ones.
There was some really, really good ones in the strike for Sarah, but oh, that was a few years ago, man. Melvin.
Man off is up there, and he's not.
We don't know him as a light heavyweight.
We knew him as a welterweight.
Middleweight at tops.
We're forcing ourselves there.
But is this just basically for Corey Anderson to be introduced to the belittle audience? And then he gets his title shot.
Um, do you like that? No, I don't like that matchup at all.
I really don't understand it.
See, the thing is with ballots or they have had great success with these types of fights, like a lot of them have come back and bit him in the ass.
So, um, in this particular matchup, I guess if you're trying to do that, I understand Melvin man off.
But at the same time, Corey Anderson got knocked out pretty bad, and we don't know how those chins recover.
Soto have Ah, a guy with the power mother.
Men have still has power.
All right, that doesn't go away.
His speed is pretty incredible.
So I would say, even if throughout the years it's dropped a little bit, it's still pretty, pretty vicious.
So I don't know that necessarily.
It's a cakewalk.
But I think they could have found a better opponent, especially in that division that might have made a little bit more sense.
But, I mean, they got me. I'm going to tune in.
I'll tell you what.
The Korea better get to wrestling fast.
Really, really fast.
You don't want to exchange leg kicks.
You don't want to.
Just, you know, I mean, man, house chin isn't anywhere near what it waas.
You know, either, Um I don't know.
I get excited about the signings, but it's like this little process of six months to a year to 18 months before they really get going.
Um and I mean, I'm sure the fighters air like, Alright, cool.
I'm getting paid with a white care, but I still feel like man, you know, I'm one of the top guys out there like I wanna fight the top guys and get to a belt already.
You know what I mean? I the proving grounds were already done.
I came through tough.
I handled myself great in the UFC.
Sure, I exited with the loss, by the way, that guy's the champ.
But prior to him, I think he had a little three or four fight win streak going.
Anderson is no joke, but he shouldn't be fighting man off.
He should be fighting another true test, that light heavyweight.
And in that light heavyweight wins.
Guess what we can say.
We can now call that light heavyweight.
We'll call him John Doe Boy.
John does pretty good.
Just see what he did to Corey Anderson, and that's what makes your division get better.
And Barry, you raised each guy, raised the stock on on the other guy, you know, when he smashes John Doe.
Then he smashes John Doe.
But at least he smashed a proper light heavyweight, and the Nightline haven weight goes and gets better because, um, you know one of the top guys.
I'll wrestle them or out did this or I did that and he goes and gets better.
But these little circus matchups, I I don't know. They bother me.
Yeah, you know, I mean, come on, we're gonna keep it, really, But we're kinda has that reputation of taking the older fighter and bringing them in, and, uh, somebody that's got a lot of of star power.
But this is the reverse.
This is actually one of those where Corey Anderson's not the not the youngest fighter in the world, but still got, ah, lot of tread left on those tires.
So if he comes in here and can you imagine if you were to get KO or something like that boy, that would set back his career and his health, you know, like that would not be good.
So I have to imagine they have a lot of confidence in this matchup.
But I like Corey Anderson.
I want to see him be successful, and there's fun fights at the top there for him.
So hopefully everything works out.
But it's gonna be fun.
I'll watch it Kind of reminds me of college football where Alabama Well, our you know, they're in the tough sec, but the first three games they're playing McNeese State you know what I mean? Appalachian State.
Just thes universities that are just going to get obliterated.
There's a few of those McNeese State and I already said that one, but they just Yeah, they just get routed, you know? And if you play for Alabama, more than likely.
When you and I will be attending the University of Alabama in high school and they go, why did you choose that man? What do you say you go? Oh, man, I'm growing up watching these guys win.
And those big games in this stadium, I wanna experience that.
I wanna be a part of that. I want to play against the best.
You know, when those guys were running out of the tunnel to play those smaller universities that they're just not as pumped up they want, They want the toughest competition, You know what I mean? Even if it means they might taken, l I don't know.
And I gotta believe a lot of those guys with belt or I mean, I don't know.
I I wondered Korean.
We gotta interview Corey Anderson just flat out ask him like, bro.
Are you stoked about this matchup? Like seriously, But here's the thing there let the employer and go.
****, yeah, This sucks.
Bela Tor! What was I think I mean, of course is gonna go.
I love the direction that Scott Coker's taking my career and guiding it, and it's gonna be a great car, you know? That's not That's the BS we all shoving, shoving each other.
You know, the little the little game may game, huh? We all do it.
James Crowns joining us here in about 15 minutes.
Let's talk about Michael Kiesa and what he said about Hamza.
Why, he probably wouldn't take that matchup.
He basically says, Yeah, I got the the headline right here.
Gosh, it I got rid of Excuse me, but basically, he said that it's a lot of risk, not enough reward.
But he clarified that because on paper, when you listen to that, a lot of fans and to go you're scared, you know? But no, he goes.
He goes on to say, Look at this level.
None of us are scared of each other.
It's just that we want to get in there and get as close as we can to the title, and it has to make sense if I be Shaimiyev.
Did that get me closer to the title? Probably not, because he's not ranked.
Well, I don't look at the UFC rankings, honestly, but at least in our rankings, he's not really doing much yet.
Um, if she may have beats him, yeah, that gets him closer to a title shot that we want.
We're believing in Shaimiyev, but we're saying like, Well, now you gotta be the veteran.
Now you gotta be the you know, top 10 top five until you work on your way up.
So that's what he's saying is it benefits that guy.
It doesn't benefit me if I beat him.
People gonna go? Well, he was, um, flash in the pan.
He had beaten a few guys, but once he got based against, you know ah, ranked fighter, he came up short.
What do you think? Goes? Is there some truth to what these guys say? Or do you think they're still hiding something from us and know that that that they're recognizing a beast, you know, and, um yeah, I somewhat believe him when he says that this level, we're not afraid of each other.
I think a lot of fighters are just conditioned differently.
But I think there's also a lot of fighters that do still carry fear with them.
We've had a lot of them say that on our show S O.
I believe him to a certain extent, this fight, If he wins, I think it does bring them closer to a title fight.
Just maybe not as much as going through the progression in the order.
Um, it is a lot of risk versus reward, especially if, like, I think sometimes people look at matchups for what they are from the moment they start to the moment they end and then they forget.
But she may have if he loses his next fight.
After that, two losses in a row to a guy like that is more detrimental.
Then another fighter that has more of an established career, remember? So could you.
When he came on the scene, right, he got those big wins.
If you gotta win over him at that moment, it would be very big.
But the second we started losing those fights It's like your win almost gets loses a little bit of value.
So I understand where Michael's coming from with this one.
Um uh, beyond you being a white.
Read that article.
Uh, how do you think then who? I read that article.
E think he's probably used to it at this point, I think e think like you're a businessman.
A good call on your point on your part.
Or do you think he's saying, Look at this guy? Look at this guy.
You know what I mean? Maybe a little bit of look at this guy, but I feel like he's probably done that for a lot of fighters when that name gets thrown out.
Yeah, I bet you Joe Silva.
He could probably give us some stories of fighters waiting, certain matchups or whatever.
Look, I'll say this much as the guy that dabbles with the rankings quite a bit right now in the USA Today sports and ever make junkie rankings that get released.
They get published every Tuesday.
I work on on Sunday and Monday, and they get published on Tuesday.
Michael Kisses number 13 Alright, Hamas.
That she may have is not even ranked homes that she may have his undefeated.
He's 30 in the UFC.
I think he's 18 hour nine and overall ****ed.
Two fights at middleweight and one fight at welter weight.
That's not enough for me to say.
Alright, Larkin, Magne, you know some of you guys in the honorable mention it's time to give you the boot cause Hamas at Shaimiyev three times in six weeks. And these look great.
No, that's not how it works.
You gotta beat some quality opposition within your weight class and start to make the move up.
What I will say is this.
If you haven't lost and you look good and you take out one of those names, you make big strides up our rankings.
Usually it's slow in and slow out because we don't like toe knee jerk.
Either way, just off of a loss and send someone way to the top and send someone falling down.
It's a process, man, you know.
And usually I tell people the rankings tell you a story.
A lot of it is reflected by head to head your level of opposition.
The streaks, your on the record you have, You know your quality losses.
Did you get smoked or did you Were you winning the first four rounds before you got taken out? You know, there's a lot that goes into it again, back to Shaimiyev.
If he fights if he s a says no.
But if Hamza fights will say below Mullah Mohammed, who I know just got booked against Shawn Brady, that was broken on MME Junkie Shout out to Fatah Khanun.
But below had told us goes about a week ago like hell, yeah, I'd find him, You know what I mean? But if you if he fights Balala recent or Jeff Neal or one of those guys and beats him, he's sailing right past those guys that he just beat and Michael Kiesa.
Now the Scripture slipped.
And now kids is gonna wanna fight him, you know? And he might say, Now you're behind me.
Like, if yes, it was like a clear two or three, I'd probably say Yep.
Protect your spot.
You're close to fight in the title, but I think I like he has, Um man, he's look good as a welterweight.
Um, and I think he could wrestle with she may have. I think it be interesting.
I think I think would be quite a challenge.
And if he can beat him, you know, with all the hype that she may have has I think it would be massive for Kiesler.
Kiesa apparently is looking upward, which again, I can't blame them for that.
But I just don't think him and some of them other guys that apparently might be turning down the fight are really in that position.
Do you ever wonder what these guys, because now cast is getting a little bit of the broadcasting right? Like, do you ever wonder if that extra paycheck that they get from those type of things kind of cools their jets a little bit as a fighter? As's faras? I want this fight.
I need to fight. I need to fight. I need to fight.
I wonder if sometimes that makes fighters a little comfortable, but I'm not really pointing Kiesa out on that.
I'm just kind of wondering, but I understand his point where he's coming from.
Yeah, it's a good point.
Um, I think the pink **** is good and it gives you a little bit more of a comfort level.
Um, what does it ever feel that void getting out there and competing? No.
Especially while you're winning, man.
Everything changes in a pandemic, though. That's the thing.
Like we're gonna interview James Cross right now.
And James Kraus.
I bet you, at some point had some sort of mindset of This is what I need to do to fight for a title.
But I bet you in a pandemic.
I think people just rewire themselves and it's all about what do I do to get a paycheck? What do I get to survive this crazy time right now to get the money that I need to be comfortable? I'm not worried about some.
Like some of these other guys.
I think that's why they take these short notice fights, different weight classes, that I think it's a completely different mindset right now.
I think that that paychecks very valuable fighters, it could be It could be, um, ask him, You know, the way eyes.
You ready? No, but yeah, I asked him.
That's a good question.
James Cross owns a gym, and I think he owns two MetroPCS or something like that too little branch of that of that mobile carrier, but that I'm going back like five years.
So I don't know if he still has him.
He might have 22 not to or made may have sold him, who knows? But he's the guy that's definitely thought outside the box.
And, of course, he coaches a lot of fighters.
I'm sure he gets paid handsomely there.
So he's got options, and I remember for a while he hadn't fought in over a year.
Let me see here, James Crowns.
Ah, uh, when he beat Sergio Mariah's, he had won four in a row.
No, I take it back between Worley Alves and Sergio Mariah's. There you go.
Between Worley office and surgery of Mariah's.
It was about 14 months, and he had won five of six, including three in a row.
And I remember I connected with him and said, Hey, bro, you're gonna be fighting anytime soon or what's going on your injured and he just he wasn't ready toe do that at that time.
Uh, that was in November of 2019 and then he fought.
Yeah, that was over a year that he just elected, not the fight.
And I thought that was bizarre because usually when you're streaking like that, that's when you're making a move to fight for a title.
You know what I mean? Yeah, he was.
I mean, maybe some of these fighters really don't care about the ring Rust as Muchas because we think they do are it's just worth it for, um uh, But remember, we interviewed Loren's Larkin, another welterweight, and he told me he goes Even though he feels like he's next for Douglas Lima.
He'd still rather take another fight than sit and wait, because when he looks back at his career, he sees that when he was fighting, his best is when he was fighting frequently.
And that's how he wants to face the champion is when he's at his best.
And that made so much sense to me.
Lawrence has this weird way of explaining things.
It's very unconventional, but when it's almost like you can tell, he has a point until he's actually walked out of the room and then you go, Wait a minute, Now I get it.
I don't know. He did that a lot on our military trip.
Stephen Thompson doesn't have a fight.
Uh, Tyron Woodley doesn't have a fight beyond Edwards.
Doesn't have a fight partly on the Navio.
Jeff Neil, I'm not sure sure of ascent.
Luke has one Michael Castle.
So Bilal Mohammed just got booked.
We're pretty sure Kobe and Mass.
But all our fight, we know who's one, and Bill Birnes will fight the John Edwards, by the way, is going on almost a year and a half with that, without a fight goes Can you believe that? Yeah.
I mean, people are going to start to forget it's not a It's not a good thing for him.
Yeah, Fernando Practice.
Who used to work with us? She had a really funny I think it was a gift or a pick.
Did you see it? Mhm.
And it was something that said all of us, All of us.
And them, Um A When we hear Edwards turned down a fight or something like that, it was hilarious.
Minute, I I don't burst out and laugh too often, but she had a good one because it was basically like a gift that that showed, like, frustration or confusion.
I'll see if I can find it in obscenities.
But I think what we see it, you'll You'll burst out laughing.
All right, It wasn't that one.
But let's talk about San Hagen, Mariah's James Kraus coming up here in about seven minutes.
The winners next rate goes I mean, we know algae means next, but the winners next for the winner of Algemeen versus John, that's how important this fight is.
Especially that's Mariah's.
I think it did to him.
I'm interested that I wish we could have caught up with them.
I'm very interested to see he was one of the guys that got co vid a little early.
You know, when all this started and I'm wondering, like what kind of effects it had on his body had any lasting effects, right, because that was something that we were maybe even thinking with Saldana.
There's gotta be something.
When your body goes through some sort of trauma like that, there's got to be something that sticks around, and I was very curious to find out from him if he if he felt any of that and just got over it or what the deal is there.
But mom Rice is one of my favorite fighters is he's a threat no matter where the fight goes.
And he always gives you an honest fight.
You know, there's never a fight where you look at it and go, Hey, man, is this guy take it easy? Did he not really take this guy seriously? He always comes to fight.
It's such an exciting fight.
And, um, San Hagen's tough d San Hagen could give a lot of people problems.
So it's gonna be a fun fight.
Yeah, they call it Long Haul syndrome.
And sure you survived.
You know, no ventilator, no confidence.
Um, but you do have some lingering effects, and some people get it with within their lungs or their heart or even their minds.
You know, athletes in great physical condition.
Maybe they're able to withstand better. We definitely.
We definitely hope no one.
It would be unrealistic to say that no one from this day gets it because the numbers that come in every day or just 40,000 day, so we know it's gonna happen.
We hope everyone recovers, but we know that's not gonna happen.
But hopefully if you do recover you at least recover and get back to 100%.
You know, um, that long haul deal is pretty bad.
And I've heard some stories about that, but going back to Mariah's, I mean, we'll find out he's gonna be tested thes air five round fights, These main events San Hagen.
Another thing we're gonna find out about him is how does he rebound from a difficult loss Now, he got caught quickly.
You know, um, the guys that get pasted for 25 minutes, like all Donna, that might be a difficult one to recover from Santana Moss quickly.
He may have been able to shake it off quickly and said, I got caught.
Um, he's favorite over Marlin Martinez That caught me off guard.
Gets a lot of love.
Corey San Hagen.
I know he's good.
He's got some really, really nice good, good hands, you know, good ground game.
He's all around.
Good fighter, young guy. Hungry.
Um, but Mariah's Come on, man.
W s O F champ title defenses.
Um, he beat the guy that just beat you.
I mean, yeah, I know A and B and C I get that, But still, like When? When? When those guys busted out the odds that caught me off guard.
Did you see Al? Donna? He brought her up.
She posted a picture of her foot and I couldn't really tell what she was pointing to.
But I imagine there was some sort of injury or something.
And she, you know, preference.
They with no excuses and all that.
But she kind of gave me.
I knew something was wrong or something like that, but it was Her foot was the outside of her foot.
Um, you know how I feel about giving the excuse and then saying no excuses? Just what's best is to live with the bad taste in your mouth.
Rest up, heal up, take another fight, booking when you're ready.
And then when you do a round of interviews If somebody asked you Hey, looking back, what was wrong in that fight? Or I even heard you may have you had an injury or whatever.
If you're asked directly and you wanna offer it, then it just doesn't Doesn't go over Aziz bad as when it immediately happens, and you're trying to be respectful of your opponent.
But in reality, you're not.
You're saving your own ego.
And then you say something like that like no excuses.
But look what happened.
My foot, like none of us are going Well, **** that explains it.
If not for the for, you wouldn't want like, yeah, you know, or show the foot, and that's it.
But don't say don't say no excuses after that, because that is an excuse.
So at that point, you're just sharing it with your fans.
Hey, fans going into surgery, maybe say a prayer for me or keeping your thoughts or whatever, and and can't wait for the next fight or whatever, but don't say no excuses, because a lot of people are interpreting it that way.
Yeah, I hear that.
All right, James Kraus is gonna be joining us soon.
Did you maybe hope I mean, we booked this one early.
Early? Did you circle back and confirm? Yeah.
What ends up happening is on SportsCastr days.
We have to send the link the day of okay.
Yeah, everything worked out good.
Well, look, I'm just gonna remind people of some cool stuff that happens within our website that they should know that a lot of people surprisingly don't know.
We have over 800,000 followers on Facebook.
It's a Facebook page where you can, you know, it's like a little community every time we post something there.
Ah, lot of people comment, and, uh, it's just good chatter, you know? I mean, also our YouTube page youtube dot com forward slash mm, a junkie video.
A lot of the interviews that goes and I do there, you'll see the highlights along with a recap on our front page.
But you'll miss out on the full interview, and sometimes we're having a blast with these fighters talking about a lot of stuff not even related to fighting like Cody Stamen goes.
I was looking at our chat that we had with him and him talking about camping, and I was laughing at that story with him.
So man was pants.
He was barefoot.
And for four hours he was trying to flag down somebody to help him, and nobody would, cause he looked like a wild man.
You know what I mean? Yeah.
Uh, James Kraus is gonna be joining us here in about 10 seconds.
Uh, here we go. Here he comes.
The James Kraus joining us now on the hotline He's gonna be fighting Claudio Silva.
Not this weekend, but the following weekend.
What's going on? James Kraus, Uh, here in Vegas, Doing the quarantine thing at the moment.
You know, getting ready, toe.
Think we both meet in the lobby like 3 a.
or something like that to go Thio to the island.
All right, so I gotta ask you, I was just talking about when you had 15 of six you had beaten.
I believe it was before Sergio Mariah's.
And I remember saying, Hey, man, it's been over a year.
You haven't thought you just said Yeah, I haven't really felt it.
I've been working on some other stuff.
Um, so I I categorized.
I filed you with someone That's, like, just gonna be a little bit more selective.
And here now you're following.
You're fighting on 24 hours notice.
What happened, man, you just got this wild urge to just start swinging or what? You're more of a gun slinger now.
I think the problem not the problem.
The situation is like because I feel like I'm on the road every weekend coaching.
Now it's It's really difficult for me to get away.
And it's really hard for me to, like, dedicate a full, you know, camp.
I'm always training.
You know, I might not be in, like, the shape I am when I fight, but I'm not far off.
You know, like whenever I have a camp on me, I'm not far off.
So, uh, for me, I basically told my management team that I was like, Hey, man, like, give me something on the island.
And if I can't fight on the island, I'm not gonna fight for the rest of the year because I just have November.
I have, like, four or five guys in the in the UFC alone in November.
Have Megan's, uh, Meghan's deal making fight in December on.
Then I have, you know, four or five guys that aren't book that will be booked for for some time as well.
So it just made sense, you know? I told him I said, I'm ready right now, you know, go something at me.
I'll take whatever is it safe to say you might love? You're coaching career more than you're fighting career.
Now, if you're able toe, put them ahead of you.
Oh, I always do.
I have for a long time.
I'm a much better coaching. I am a fighter.
I'm more passionate about it.
I think I'm better at it.
I mean, I really, truly believe I feel like we're building something really special where we're at.
I really believe that, I think will be if we're not considered one of the best teams in the world and not really do believe will be that will be there very soon.
We have 12 UFC fighters out of out of a little jam.
Jim and Leigh, Summit Reserve.
You know, I mean, I think that's like that speaks volumes.
And more importantly, I think this is when I look a good coaching.
When I look around in these these these big Jim's.
I don't look how many USC fighters they have.
I look at how many of those fighters air homegrown like, how many did you create? Not how Maney transferred later or whatever, you know? And I would say the vast majority of my guys are all homegrown, You know, I'm glad you brought up coaching because that's something I really want to touch with you.
This is back in the day.
I mean, Laura Senko and she would come in the studio.
She would always talk about how much motivation you would give fighters.
And you're coaching methods.
And and then we started seeing you coaching more at the top level in the U F.
So I wanted to ask you, Is the fighter hat and the coach hat the same hat? Does it ever cross over? Like, do you ever find yourself telling fighters things that in your fight you're thinking? Man, I don't even do that like, Are you wearing the same hat is like, you have to switch it completely different.
It's It's completely different.
I mean, as a as a fighter, you have to be, uh, you have to be led.
You know what I mean? Like you have to You have to be number two on then.
As a coach, you have to be.
You have to be number one.
And not only you have to be number one.
You have to make decisions that are better.
Uh, you have to be confident in your decision making, you know, And I think that's one of the things that that we do is I'm very selective.
And I got this from from my coach, Mark Montoya, um, very selective about who we have on the team and like, first of all, we have this culture.
It's a It's a very blue collar work ethic, type of culture.
And it's a It's a culture that if you don't fit the culture, I don't.
You know, we don't want you on the team like it's and it's nothing personal.
It's just like if you don't fit this culture, we don't want you, you know, and that's that.
We can't help you, and that's like, uh, we work hard.
My guys on a very strict schedule, they don't show up, you know, they're getting their ass busted and and, uh, way and we just don't have that.
You know what I mean? Like, you don't just show up.
That's not a thing.
If you don't if you don't show up without a good reason, if you're not gonna be on the team like that's just how it works, you know? I mean, there's there's expectations.
Their structure like you, You're not in the NFL, and you can't just not show up to practice.
That's not how it works.
So, um, try, try toe, maintain.
Very, uh I try to maintain a very fun environment, but also very structured and very disciplined because I do feel that is a requirement in order to operate at the high level in the sport.
I think they're starting to see that, you know, with with some of my guys were taking short notice fights on I'm starting Thio.
I say I we are starting to I think right now we're noticed is like, Hey, if you have some problems, you're not doing so good.
Come see me and we'll fix your You know, we'll clean up your mess a little bit.
Uh, and that's I'm good with that.
You know, I'm 100% good with that.
And, uh, I really like, I think we're doing, I think we're doing.
There's five things that I think we're doing differently as a team and or or were, uh, emphasizing on as a team.
And I'll go into the e.
Just think we're a little I think we're a little different.
I think the structure that we have in place is that of a very small blue collar type of structure.
And our guys work hard.
Um, they show up every day, and if you're not, you're not on the team, James.
I'm gonna have you separate.
James Cross the fighter.
James crossed the coach just for a second.
Do you think you would make a good coach for yourself if James Kraus was the coach was just a different guy.
Would you drive yourself crazy? You would be awesome.
Coach to yourself.
No, I mean absolutely as a as a fighter, I I crave.
I crave coaching, you know, And I crave, uh, every every fighter they want to.
They want to get better, they want to see the results.
And I think, Ah, big problem in in the industry is not like a clear cut path to victory.
There's no organization in the game.
And that's one of the five things we emphasize on is organizing your game.
But, uh, I just see a lot of like randomness coming on like nobody making plays like in football.
You know what I mean? Like, you don't just go.
Hey, you run a post, you run a screen or what? You know, there's there's place set.
And I feel like that's one thing that that we do, uh, my German I do as a coach and and I do that as a coach because I've done that for myself as a fighter and Mark has helped me.
I give myself credit there.
Marcus has helped me tremendously in that in that aspect.
And, uh, you know, I think you have to have that.
I think you have to have that to continue to grow.
I mean, you can't You can't build this beautiful home with all the amenities and all the, you know, the crown molding and all that stuff First, playing this beautiful foundation, you know, you have to have the foundation.
You have to have the structural integrity of the are all the inside. Doesn't matter.
I would like to hear the five techniques if you're willing to share him.
Um, you're gonna put me on the spot, put myself on spot organizing your game.
Just I think with organizing your game is like, where is your clear cut path to victory? Like where This is a game of odds, right? Like if you're if, for example, like if you put me on somebody's back or if you put me on top of somebody like the odds of me winning that fight drastically increased.
So as you as an individual fighter, what is your pathway to victory? And then how do we funnel everything that you do to creating that opportunity for you? That to me, that's like in as a whole? That's the idea of organizing your game, Um, organizing again, blending your techniques together, Uh, I think we're in a sport where it's very, uh, specific to specific.
In my opinion, I think people focus too much on striking and too much on wrestling and too much on Grappling.
And my thing is, I wanna put them all together.
I wanna make it one art, right? Like it's all blending, blending, blending everything together because I see too often that people either strike or they wrestle.
They don't do both at the same time, so you gotta be able to put all of those all of those things together.
So, uh, organizing your game, uh, blending Clint's work, I think the majority of people suck in the clinch, just plain and simple.
They suck striking.
They start grappling.
I think the clinch is one of the most underutilized positions and all of them A which leads me to the to the fourth thing is resting the cage.
Um, if I am going against so and so that comes from a D one background, uh, they've been wrestling since they were three year old, three years old.
Uh, I don't have the time to catch up to.
I have a kid in my gym.
His name's Mike England.
He's like two or three, you know, as a pro.
He wrestled a Mizzou with Chandler and and Woodley and all those guys.
And, uh, he's a little bit younger than those guys, but the point I'm trying to make it.
There's no way I could catch up to him and open mat wrestling.
He's been doing it too long.
I'm gonna have to take 10 years off to catch up to him and arrest.
So he's got 15 years experience on me.
But if I say if I say Mikey, how long have you been wrestling on the cage? He'll say I like two or three years.
I've been icing on the cake for 15 years, so I have a very organized system on the on the cage, and I still see See people shooting doubles and singles driving through the cage.
It's it's it's a different type of It's a different type of wrestling, wrestling on the fence and wrestling in the open.
That, to me is like ping pong and tennis.
Very, very similar, but very, very, very different.
At the same time, you can't the same things don't always work.
So, uh, blending, Um, organizing your game, wall wrestling, clinch striking and, uh, grappling.
And then the last one is five like you just making making good decisions.
Uh, in the fight, Tim.
Tim Elliot is the best example that I could give you.
Um, he was Ah, a couple things like, if you watch this fight with Brandon Roy ball or are Askar is another one that he did the Askar fight he took ask are down three times through him, like threw him for five Heywood Circle to the head from front headlock.
If you guys have grappled at any point in time, you know how to fight front headlock.
It's a very known position.
This guy Askar has 10,000 reps on breaking the trip from front headlock, fighting off the gay teen.
He has many reps of that.
He threw him for 54 times in that around three times in that round circle to the head.
Askar got back up.
He threw him the last time circle to the hips and he held him down for two minutes.
And the only reason that Askar got back up is because Tim circle back to the head.
So, like this decision making like that, um, circling through the hips, uh, you know, hovering over the hips.
Um uh, Tim does another thing.
He did this in the bullfight terribly.
He's always been in a hurry, like he'll do stupid stuff like he jumped for, like, a bicep cutter.
He was on top in a dominant position and jumped for a, ah, low percentage move rather than being on top.
You know, swinging the hammer and and at this level, you just can't 1 80 that many times.
You know, they're they're too good you go from, you go from on top, toe on bottom you can't do that.
Everybody here is too good.
They'll take advantage of that.
So the five things are our barbecue blending your game, clinch work, wrestling on the fence and, uh, organizing your game.
Um, and did you say about 10 minutes ago, did you say that you have a little bit of a reputation? Where if someone I want you to clarify this, if someone's like on a kid or if they need the is it a mental thing? They go to you and you kind of clean up their techniques or their approach to the fight.
Is is that what you were saying? Ready? Uh, also another example.
Um, I feel like a lot of these guys that think they come to us.
It's like Tim has all the skills in the world, you know? He's been He's a a national champion wrestler.
Good striking, awkward striking.
Um, he's been everywhere.
That's not to say that we can't add new skills to his game, but a lot of his stuff is just like when we were getting ready for the fight.
We literally just spent two weeks.
That's all we have, like, 2 2.
5 weeks said, Listen, we're not your game, and we're gonna We're gonna increase your five like you.
That's all we did like here in this spot.
No, don't do that.
Do not Don't be in a hurry.
The guys like him in such a hurry toe win that they give up positions that make them ultimately lose their They're doing the exact opposite of what they should be doing.
So, um, yeah, I just Yeah, What I'm trying to say is like, you know, Minner crew has crew has been my guy for a long time, but we're finally we're getting him organized, and it's just taking a little bit longer.
So I feel like if you're if you're in, you know, if your spot where, like I don't want to say if you're doing bad, because that's not what I'm getting at, but like if you're I just see a lot of randomness.
And if you're having a hard time like if you're a plateau in your game, I feel like coming to us.
We'll pull you out of that, and we'll definitely take you to a new a new, a new spot.
Open your mind up to some new techniques and concepts, and our culture is amazing to our culture.
Forces you toe toe, work hard or or get or get pushed out.
You know what I mean? Like the guys that come to my gym from from other gyms, they have a really difficult time adjusting to the schedule because it's a tough schedule, you know, it really is.
So, uh, yeah, man, I just I feel like we're doing things a little differently.
We have unusual approach to it.
I'm treating these guys like professional athletes, like NFL players, and, uh, I feel like we're having success.
You know? I don't want to say like we're like, because we all know is, you know, it's like this.
It's a rollercoaster.
I had I had a couple of great weeks in a in a row and, you know, and who knows? It all goes up and down.
You guys know that? Yeah.
I just want to say one last thing here and then I think goes will have the last question.
All this makes sense to me from a conversation I had about three years ago.
Julian Marquez, good friend of yours, You've trained them before.
We were just talking about different cultures and different gyms.
And he said, Man, I love the program that James Kraus runs and I go, What do you mean? The program? And he basically described a little bit of what you were saying.
He goes, There's a lot of coaches that that they get well known because when you see him on TV, it's those 30 to 60 seconds In between rounds, they said something.
The fighter, the fighter followed the orders and then they go out and got the win.
And if you do enough, or if enough of you guys were wearing about Boom, that's a good coach.
You know, I'm not disagreeing with any of that, he goes.
But one thing I found is that guy Monday through Saturday that's running a certain program that's getting you better.
He goes, That's what I like.
And and I think I said, Well, give me a good example when he said James Kraus and this was three years ago that he said, I like the program that he runs.
But he goes, I'm here in Vegas now and he's over.
But when I get a chance, when when I used to train or something like that or Hey, really, really loved it.
So you're talking about this three years later? I mean, I just totally connected those dots.
Yeah, and he's another great example of improvement that he's had over the last couple months have been tremendous, you know, Very, very.
It's been amazing.
So I'm really proud of all my all my guys.
Like I said, we have 12 guys in a little Jim, I say a little gym.
It's a big Jim, but like we're in Missouri, you know? I mean, like, we don't nobody.
Nothing good comes out of where I'm from.
You know what I mean? Like it's not.
It's just not a We don't get a lot of support like we don't have big money backers like I see you know, Sanford.
And I'm not talking about about the fact that they have, You know, big name sponsors like Monster is a part of that.
That that Sanford clinic built the entire We don't have that.
No, I mean, like We are very blue collar work ethic.
Jim and my guys, my guys went and I, by the way, Henry is, is one of the very few coaches that I truly expect in this game.
That's not a shot at them at all.
I love the facility, and I'm jealous of what they have, to be honest with you.
But, uh, we just don't have that, you know, it's just we're just we're getting it through hard work.
And another thing, as I think is I feel like there's not a lot of coaches that that can do all of it.
You know what I mean? Like they strike striking coach graphic.
It's a lot of like it's a lot of specialist coaches, and the problem is that these coaches don't talk each other, you know? I mean, some of them do, and they have success like Henry and and Greg.
Those guys talk, you know? I mean, they're in the same room together, but I see a lot of like happens in Vegas a lot.
It's like these guys go like four different gyms, and these coaches don't talk, so there's no there's no blending.
There's no organizing of the game.
It's like you have a striking coach that wants you to win.
You have a grappling coach that wants you to win by grappling, and there's a bunch of, like chaos within that.
And it's just I feel like I'm one of the few coaches in the game that can that can coach everywhere, and, uh and we talk. Our coaches talk.
You know, we have.
We have coaching meetings weekly.
I want to talk about one of the five points that you brought up.
Which, by the way, you probably have every right to quiz us on every time we do an interview.
We don't remember those five points after the way you explained it.
We deserve a liver shot or something.
Here's what I wanna see.
Oh, go on the spot right now.
Can you name four of them? I'll give me.
There was cage work right there.
Was there waas fight I Q there.
Waas blending there.
Waas George, you I'll get I did three.
You do too Clinch work.
We have said that you wrestling, kid? Yeah, I'm trying to just trying to go in order to see here pressing a page, clinch work, Fight I Q and then, um e organization.
Organize your, uh, yeah, organize your game.
So I think I can only give you for myself.
Um, Where goes? And I ableto patch up between booth e from getting leg kick the next time e wanna ask him about Fight like you? Because when I take myself back as a fan, Okay, I see your opponents game.
I see your game.
I remember seeing you at Quintet, and I know you have a hay was a beast.
That quintet a has a good ground game, too.
So when I'm looking at that fight, I'm hoping, man, I hope these two guys hit the ground at some point.
And what I wanted to ask you was, Even though you have your game plan going in, you have your fight. I Q.
How much does bravado ever like? Just step in and go, man.
I really want to see what happens if I think just do down and and we we go at it on the ground.
Is that ever take over? Sometimes? No.
That's part of fire.
Q. It's about? It's about.
It's about putting.
Well, let me let me elaborate on this.
So, like, this is part of fired at you the right.
So, like, uh, it's all about putting yourself in the best possible chance for you to win.
So, for example, if I'm fighting another battle, er that tear Sergio Mariah's right.
Like I could grapple with him on the ground.
You know, I'm sure everybody wanted to see that, and they did kind of get a glimpse of that, You know what I mean? I felt like I held my own just fine showed that I could wrap with him, but on the ground, it was like this.
But when we stood up, it was like this.
So why would I want to do this whenever I could do this? You know what I mean? Like, I'm not gonna take turns with a guy, uh, showing.
Listen, you know what's cool is showing that I'm a better grappler against a good grappler, but, you know, it's way cooler than that is winning.
That's all that matters, is winning, right? That's all.
That's all that matters, is winning the fight.
So it's all about increasing odds now.
So when you talk about like, hey, uh, you know, being like cerebral fighters fight like you all this.
Listen, there comes a time and place toe where the smartest thing you could do is so all that out the window and just fight somebody make them fight, You know what I mean? Like sometimes that's the smart thing to do.
It's not what you do.
It's being able to identify when to do it and why to do it if that makes any sense.
You know, I mean, like, sometimes, like if you guys were having a chess match, maybe this guy is really good at range, really sharp sometimes.
Just get in his face and being a hammer, and the stone hammers out and making me uncomfortable.
Sometimes that's the smartest thing you could do.
And that all goes in that fight.
I Q bucket last question from me.
I want to get into the mindset of a fighter during the pandemic era.
Um, I was telling somebody the other day you might have a friend or somebody Every now and again that just says, Hey, man, I'll give you 50 bucks if you help me move or do something like that.
And you might go, man, today's football Sunday, keep your 50 bucks.
But in the pandemic era, you kind of go, I'll take it.
You know, our fighters kind of been that same mindset where I just need to make money right now and maybe rankings and all.
That doesn't matter for this.
This little Eric era right now.
Not my fighters, not my fighters.
You're on the same schedule doing the same thing.
What are we doing? What are we doing here? What do we after? So each each, For example.
If George wants to join my gym George, you and I, we sit down, we have a conversation.
What do you want to do with your goal? And they usually say, I wanna be in UFC.
Don't tell me you wanna be in UFC.
Because if you tell me in UFC, if you tell me what the nufc there's a list of requirements that that comes with that.
So if you say hey, I wanna be in USC. Okay. Cool.
Georgia, You willing to do this schedule? Does this schedule work for you? Are you willing to commit 100% to this program, You say? Yes.
I don't want to hear about making money.
You came to me and you said you wanted to be in the U.
You didn't say you wanted to make money.
And if you get to you, see those two things combined, right? So, like it's about, It's about what? The envelope? Because I see it all the time.
These guys want to get off track and listen.
And I also understand that life happens.
You know what I mean? Like, there's that that that is an individual discussion that we have with with our guys.
You know, like, if he's if he's hurting or whatever.
You know, I've let guys I've let guys borrow money, uh, whatever.
But for the most part of my guys stick to the end goal.
They stick to the program.
There are fighter first, and their job revolves around that, not the other way around.
So to answer your question, I don't know what everybody else is doing.
My guys aren't doing that.
They're the end goal.
They're very vision focus.
They see what is there and especially I had to stop with my guys a two beginning of it all.
Listen, there's gonna be so much opportunity and listen, this year hasn't shown that.
I don't know what will like.
You guys can go make money during this.
Or you could be ready when the opportunity comes.
But you can't do both.
You gotta sacrifice one of the other.
You either gotta work like a dog.
Blue collar every single day. Be ready for the opportunity.
Or you could go make $50 extra on a Sunday.
What do you What do you after here? What do you want? You wanna make $15 a day? Man, this guy could be a speaker at at a high school or university and motivate that the outgoing class.
This is great stuff, James.
One of my favorite interview 2020.
We didn't really touch too much on Claudio Silva, but you know, we do so much of that house, your weight as your camp way.
No, you've already told us you're already prepared for life every day.
So I'm sure you thought this through before you even took the fight booking.
So, man, all we can say is safe.
Travels to Yas Island.
You know what I mean.
And let's have more of these.
Man, this was really, really good pick in your mind, and it's all making sense.
Like I said, that convo I had with Julian Marquez and others others telling me man crosses a good coach across the good church.
So thanks for sharing that stuff with us. Five technique.
You guys want to know I love? I love talking with you all All right.
Thank you. Take care, man.
I appreciate it.
Alright, folks, how about that goes? That's fine.
Yeah, I was a lot of fun by that's fighting in 10 days.
And yet we spent most of time picking his brain about the coaching game.
You know, the the culture that he sets in his gym and the approach strategy, stuff like that.
That that was awesome.
Um, how I want to go back and watched.
I remember bits and pieces of Royal and Elliott.
Remember, Elliot pushed the really, really hard pace in that fight.
I mean, I mean he was Yeah, I was even thinking Who is he going? You know, Is he going too hard or whatever? But that was really, really a good fight.
So I wanna I wanna go back and see a couple of those that you mentioned, but that was a great That was great guest booking on your part.
All right, well, folks, that concludes our chauffeur Thursday we went a little lower, but I'm sure you guys didn't mind. That was D.
James Kraus, who fights on October 17th against Claudio Silva at UFC on ESPN, plus 38.
That's not to be confused with this weekend's card.
This weekend's card features Corey Sand Hagan versus Marlon Mariah's, which I'm not even sure I know.
We did touch on it.
It's very important this could lead to ah, title fight for the winner.
First things first album in Sterling versus Peter Yang.
Although that hasn't been done, we feel like it will be we recently, I recently did an off guard with I'll drink Sterling it at Xtreme Couture, and he's hoping for December booking.
So the winner of this fight, maybe early spring, could be fighting the winter anyway, folks.
All right, that is it.
We got to get on out of here.
As always for your support, we'll see you all on Monday with another edition of MME Junkie Radio here on SportsCastr.