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00:00:39
And with that friends, we welcome you back into the SportsCastr New Central, where it is I, Adam Arm Brecko.
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Look at that.
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And Ray Ralph coming in with a beautiful freeze frame as we look ahead.
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So it's gonna be an exciting Monday night, obviously, because of co vid 19 rearing its ugly head, we actually get to do a little double dip here on Monday night.
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Unfortunately for Ray in New England Patriots, they'll be doing it with out Cam Newton on as they take on the Kansas City Chiefs.
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You really couldn't afford to lose anybody, but specifically the guy that was on the comeback trail, trying to maybe reclaim Comeback Player of the year this season.
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And then in the later game, with all the Falcons and the Packers, they get push back a little bit.
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ESPN loses some of its muster by having to go head to head with the NFL on Monday night.
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And then there's Laurence. Owen.
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Buddy, we're here.
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We're doing this thing before we dive in.
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Let's just say welcome.
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How are your friends? Hello.
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Thank you for everybody who's tuning in.
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I'm doing absolutely miserable on this Monday night, I mean I get to watch football.
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Um, if this game goes the way experts are expecting it to go, ESPN won't be competing with anybody because everybody will just change the channel over at 8 50.
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But I will be sitting through all the misery of the New England Patriots in the Kansas City Chiefs, and I don't think it's gonna be this big blowout that everybody thinks it's gonna be.
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And when we get into that, I will tell you why.
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But I do want to put out a word of warning for Kansas City Chiefs fans.
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If Kansas City wins tonight, as expected, I will not care.
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I will not be affected.
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You be Brian Hoyer.
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But if the New England Patriots, when I promise you I will be insufferable not just for the week but the entire season, you might as well just stop watching me from this point on because you will not hear the end of you lost toe.
00:02:37
Brian Hoyer.
00:02:39
Well, Lawrence, is there anything that you'd like to soapbox over before we follow the rundown of this show? And don't just jump ahead and automatically start insulting Kansas City Chiefs fans? I mean out there.
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You're right. Come on.
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Uh, I didn't jump.
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I just insult him immediately, Lawrence.
00:02:57
And as we dive into this, anything that you're excited about before we talk.
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Not just about these Monday night matchups, but first off the NFL news that really broke here within just the last hour or so around a firing in the league and maybe a change of power here.
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A shift of dynamics down there in the great state of Texas.
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Yeah, they fired one guy.
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And now there are three postings at the unemployment office in Houston.
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And that's where we started before we dive in on it.
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Bill O'Brien is there.
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I don't know if you guys have ever experiences.
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Have you ever been fired twice in the same day.
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Were possibly asked.
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Hey, Bill, would you mind going down to the head coaching office and letting him know that we're gonna let him go? And then when you're finished their head on upstairs, the guys would like to talk to you.
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Bill O'Brien out.
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Oh, and four.
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Start for the for the Houston Texans.
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You can't really be shocked by this move.
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I think it's the right move for the organization.
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And yet, as we were talking about before we got into this, you do it after you let him trade away Nuke after you take your franchise quarterbacks.
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Best weapon.
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His security blanket.
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You strip him away.
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You bring in a David Johnson.
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A reasonable played pretty well, actually.
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So far to start the year for them, but not nearly the impact player that Hopkins is.
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Do you think that this was just man a step too late for? For the Houston Texans ownership group will start with you, Lawrence.
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How do you look at this? Firing by Bill for for Bill O Brien by the Houston, Texas.
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I think this was a terrible timing.
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Terrible timing.
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Personally, uh, should have happened before, Like as soon as they heard.
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Oh, well, he might be trading Hopkins.
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I would have been, like, no gone or you made the bed sit in it for a while.
00:04:41
Um, I don't like the idea of bringing people in midway.
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Uh, now you got Romeo Coronel head coaching that did the Browns a great service way back in the day.
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It's not goingto it's not gonna turn out as good as you think.
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it's going to I really don't I don't think they're gonna improve this season by the firing of Bill O Brien.
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I think they should have kept it, kept their ears out and just kept him around.
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Um, just just for the sake of the locker, the locker room, I mean, the locker room itself as me and Ray we're talking about.
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They're already a very solid locker room.
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When ah, when your players get together and say We don't want a specific player on this team and we won't play if you go hire him.
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That tells you what kind of locker room they have with without Bill O'Brien on.
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Well, and listen right we're talking about is that Shawn Watson, when asked about it, said, it is what it is. We're owned. Four.
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I'm not gonna let it take my joy.
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My spirit, my smile, my energy, my love of the game is still going to be there.
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That doesn't sound like a guy who was particularly distraught over the firing of his head.
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Coach of the G. M.
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I think Lawrence makes a fair point around, You know you're in it now.
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You might as well write it out.
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But I think the advantages when you have a GM head coach now, whoever starts to make some of those decisions at the highest level gets to evaluate this roster over the course of this season and then go into the off season with fresh eyes, understanding where they want to make changes.
00:06:11
Yes, and I think that's the big thing.
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Let's also not forget that they do not have a first round or second round draft pick in the Miami Dolphins Air just hoping for this tank.
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The worst thing that could happen for Miami was Bill O'Brien being fired.
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Um, look, when he traded DeAndre Hopkins this offseason, Lawrence, I said to you, his leash is half a game.
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I said if he's losing at half time in the first game, he should be fired in the dressing room.
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You had to let him trade DeAndre Hopkins.
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You just gave him the GM power last season.
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If you weren't happy with, um, you had to fire him after last season.
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Once you went into it, you had to do it.
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Bill O'Brien.
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The coach, was fired today.
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Bill O'Brien just happened to be the general manager as well.
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Um, you had to make this move their own four.
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They have the highest payroll in the National Football League.
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It's like to its higher.
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They were just showing today the highest.
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It's higher than the Kansas City Chiefs with, like $18 in salary cap at some point this season.
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And you know, Lawrence, I think that for for me.
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And I say Lawrence specifically because Adam wasn't a part of the 150 conversations.
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I think for me, it's you.
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And I sat there and said, Randall Cobb, you know, Brandon cooks a running back, you know, in Johnson Fuller on this team.
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This Titans team is actually better without DeAndre Hopkins.
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And they were with DeAndre Hopkins.
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I'm not saying DeAndre Hopkins is a bad wide receiver.
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It's been my opinion.
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He's the best in the NFL.
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But the Texans offense ran through DeAndre Hopkins.
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You now gave to Shawn Watson viable targets around the field.
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This lineup on defense is still amazingly crazy that any team in the in the NFL would trade their defense for this Texans defense with some of the names that they have on that on that roster, And yet Bill O'Brien led them to Oh, and four.
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Now we could argue they lost to the Chiefs.
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They lost to the Ravens.
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They, you know, they lost to the good teams in the NFL, Steelers, the Steelers.
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But if you're supposed to be a top three, we had them.
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Is the top three teams.
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If you're supposed to be a top three, you should be competing.
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They didn't compete against the big teams.
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They were blowing out by the big teams.
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That's unacceptable.
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You had to make a coaching change.
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He just happens to be the GM.
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And my last point is is Romeo is a **** saint, okay, you do not use his name in vain around me.
00:08:48
Now listen, we won't We won't go too far into Houston, because obviously we're here about the Monday Night football games.
00:08:53
But, Ray, you make that point and I think, listen, if you wanna be pretty honest about it, too, if your ownership you may have taken a look at this and said, am I gonna risk and I don't think this is necessarily how they approached it.
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But when you look at the start of their schedule and you said, Look at the first three games of this season.
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I honestly think that if they had beaten the Minnesota Vikings, who are not looking so sharp this year, things would have been okay there because those first three games are very difficult. Matchup.
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So win, no matter how confident you feel about your team, writes a coin flip toe win any of those games, arguably less than a coin flip against, say, the Chiefs.
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So you come out of those first three, you take your wounds and then you lose to Minnesota.
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And now, when you look at that, when you look at that schedule for Romeo Crennel going forward, listen, he's going to get the Jaguars.
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She's gonna get difficult.
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Matchup. So against the Titans, the Packers.
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But he will get the Jaguars again and then the brand of the Patriots.
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So it's not gonna be an easy road, no matter who was gonna take over here.
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But I think after you lose to the Minnesota Vikings, that's probably where you get the full sample size that you needed to know that this isn't gonna work in the big picture.
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And if I could just add one thing to that, Adam, I think the fact that Shawn Watson came out and basically says it is what it is, You know, I'm talking a lot of dampen my spirits.
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Normally, when a coach gets fired, players take it personal.
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They say, no, we let him down.
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Uh, it's our fault.
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And sometimes that motivates guys like we need to play for Bill Now, you know, it's our fault.
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He got fired.
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Watson basically went well.
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It is what it is. I'm not.
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I'm still gonna have fun.
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I'm still gonna play football.
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I'm getting my money.
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I don't care, by the way, thanks so much for the paycheck, Bill.
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But also, I'm all right with you not being here and and and that is.
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And if your ownership to if you you probably you obviously had your hand and extending Watson.
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And now you look at it and go, we need to satisfy our franchise quarterback.
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That's what goal number one has to be for them as they move forward.
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I want to say one thing as well.
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I'm sorry.
00:10:33
No, you mentioned it.
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And, Ray, I'm gonna put them both together.
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The coach got fired as we talked about Ray.
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We believe that this offense is better this year than what they were last year as an overall team.
00:10:49
It's the play calling that has held them back.
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You know, it's not using these weapons in a proper way, so I get why they want to change the play color.
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But I don't know, man.
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I don't know who is gonna be making the play calls and and understanding the personnel quick enough in order to turn this team around in any way, shape or form in the next quarter of the season.
00:11:14
Can I just throw one thing that you guys to? I think I've already I think I already know who the next coach of the taxes team is gonna be.
00:11:21
Okay, let me.
00:11:23
No. I really think it's gonna be Josh McDaniels.
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I really think he's gonna look at that team.
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I think they're gonna look and I think that he'd actually be a good fit.
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As from an offensive standpoint of having that mind on that team this season is what it is.
00:11:35
I've heard a lot about Kansas City's offensive.
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Yeah, listen well.
00:11:43
And as we transition into the first matchup tonight the Patriots going up against the Kansas City Chiefs.
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So what better blend there? I'll say on the footnote about McDaniels, and this isn't a knock on him.
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I think he's absolutely fantastic.
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Some guys are best suited as a coordinator, as opposed to being the head coach.
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And I wonder if the sample size that you got in Denver was enough to determine that about McDaniels or if it was just a bad fit, you know, and he had to take his lumps before he gets another shot.
00:12:07
So it be interesting to keep an eye on that when we turn our attention over to this matchup tonight.
00:12:10
The early game, ray on your side of things.
00:12:13
Number of concerns for New England Coming into this once, um, injuries.
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We're gonna have a guy actually coming off of IR, which is nice.
00:12:20
But across the offensive line concerns just protecting and setting up.
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And what we know is going to be a difficult matchup for them now.
00:12:26
This Patriots offensive line has been stupid good this year, and I don't think people have realized what this offensive line has been going through.
00:12:33
Their starting right tackle, Marcus can and opted out this season, and they've been putting Jermaine Alumina or who's been a guard his entire career at right tackle.
00:12:41
Uh, last week, David Andrews went on the I R.
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Whose are starting center, and you haven't noticed Marcus Cannon.
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And you didn't notice that David Andrews wasn't there last week.
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Joe Tooni, probably one of the top left guards in the league, moved over to center.
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They put a rookie in his left guard.
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You didn't even notice it.
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Now the starting right guard, Shaq Mason, is out, and I assume it's either gonna be Jermaine Alumina or Yanni.
00:13:08
Can you say that's going to go into play? Right guard? Neither one is a a really viable option in my mind.
00:13:14
But this Patriots offensive line, the same as last year, I said, has been like a house of cards and injuries could kill us.
00:13:22
But what I think we're going to see tonight and now it may be unfair.
00:13:26
If Shaq Mason was playing, perhaps we could have got a better, but I think we're going to see tonight because I've asked this question.
00:13:32
Has the offensive line played this great or is Cam Newton and his ability to move around and people not wanting to go on full out blitzes at them, because if he finds a hole in your entire teams behind him, you're gonna lose 40 yards.
00:13:49
Did he make this line look better because Brady made this exact line via No David Andrews last year look like the worst offensive line in the NFL.
00:13:57
So tonight, I think with Brian Hoyer back there, that's going to be the big test now.
00:14:02
Chris Jones is out for tonight.
00:14:04
So that is good news for the Patriots.
00:14:06
Because at least it's, you know, giving up Shaq Mason and giving up Chris Jones is sort of a trade off from an offensive defense of battle.
00:14:12
Um, look, Tony, Michelle is on the i. R.
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I'm not actually that concern because date, as as Adam said, they switched around.
00:14:21
They bring in Damian Harris.
00:14:22
A lot of people believed that Damian Harris was gonna be Sony Michelle's replacement anyways this season.
00:14:28
And besides a couple of runs against Las Vegas last week, Sony Michelle actually hasn't played great again this season to the point of the Thursday before the Raiders game, because I've been a Sony Michelle defender for the last two seasons.
00:14:40
I actually road off Sony Michelle and said, I can't defend him anymore, just without so just to just to get Lawrence in on the mix here a little bit without, um without having Cam Newton right now.
00:14:52
And this is again.
00:14:53
You think about relative to the schedule.
00:14:55
Right? Cameras looks really good.
00:14:56
The Patriots have looked pretty strong to start the season now.
00:14:59
Did they play the Dolphins to start the season in a loss? A good game against the Seahawks, But the Seahawks defense has not been great to start off this year, either.
00:15:07
And then they play the Raiders, Another suspect defense.
00:15:10
Lawrence.
00:15:11
When you look at them and you're talking about the Kansas City Chiefs that are 27th against the run defensively given up almost 140 yards per game and third against the past, how are they going to approach Hoyer, where, even though we know the stat lines for the Patriots from a run standpoint, are a lot more inflated based on Cam Newton's presence? What are the Chiefs gonna look to do here is this Are they gonna just risk it all and shut down the running game and say, Hoyer, prove that you can beat us against our secondary.
00:15:39
I think they they absolutely have to do that.
00:15:42
I as a Kansas City standpoint, um, history has shown that, uh, read will when he goes up against a team knowing that the other team is going to want to try to run the ball and control the clock is going to load that box and make you beat them in the past.
00:16:01
And with Brian Hoyer sitting back there and with receivers that were already questionable coming into the season for New England, I think that's exactly what his plan is.
00:16:11
He's gonna be like, You know what? I'm gonna drop eight in that box and I'm gonna force Hoyer to try to throw the football at me and keep up with Patrick Mahomes.
00:16:22
I think, too, that one of the factors into that 27th overall against the run is over.
00:16:29
The last three weeks, they have had to face to Shawn Watson, a Justin Herbert who has been very impressive as a rookie on.
00:16:38
Then they had to face Lamar Jackson.
00:16:40
Eso you have to respect quarterback so much in your first three games that you played that it's easy.
00:16:48
It's basically we're going to stop the quarterback and let them run the football.
00:16:51
You know, it's almost that bend, but don't break.
00:16:54
Today's an exact opposite effect for Kansas City.
00:16:58
It's let's stop the run and hey, go ahead, Brian Hoyer.
00:17:03
Try to throw the football on us.
00:17:05
I think it's more on Bill Belichick now is how can I make passing the football effective for this team? How Doe I do it? I think that we're going to see a bit of a throwback toe or, you know what? We've used it for 20 years.
00:17:18
We're going to see a much more Tom Brady asked type of offense of, you know, throws to the running backs and and Julian Edelman coming off the line.
00:17:27
The problem is, with the Patriots weapons being so slow and not being able to get separation in Kansas City's secondary playing pretty good.
00:17:38
Uh, there's gonna have to be, ah, lot of magic that comes out of this game, and unfortunately, when you play a team like the Kansas City Chiefs, very similar to how the Patriots, you know, let's call it almost one against Seattle.
00:17:49
Um, my big thing in that game was it wasn't about stopping Seattle and they didn't.
00:17:54
It was about keeping pace.
00:17:56
Is an offense and your defense making two or three stops? I think this Patriots defense is capable of making two or three stops, but without Cam Newton, I don't know if they're capable of keeping up with the Kansas City Chiefs or keeping them off the field long enough.
00:18:09
Hey, Ray, I have a question for you.
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I think it's a question that a lot of people who are getting ready to watch this game has in their mind how short of a leash with Bill Belichick have on Brian Hoyer this game.
00:18:22
I think he's got a foolish I don't think that **** all.
00:18:25
So if he walks in and throws two interceptions in the first quarter, he's gonna keep him in there. It is what it is.
00:18:30
I've got two things about Jared did happen.
00:18:31
Adam and I discussed this on Saturday.
00:18:34
Number one Jared Stidham is a third string quarterback of the New England Patriots.
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No matter which way you cut it, people could say he got injured in camp.
00:18:40
People could say he's better than Brian Hoyer.
00:18:42
I don't care. He's the third string quarterback.
00:18:44
You know how many reps he got with the starter prior to this game? Zero Because that's how many of the third string quarterback gets.
00:18:49
He was a scout team quarterback all week, Brian.
00:18:52
Now, even though Cam Newton would have got the majority of the first team reps.
00:18:55
Brian Hoyer, being the backup would have got some of those reps.
00:18:59
Number two.
00:19:00
This is not the type of game that you put a guy like Jarrett Stidham into.
00:19:04
Um, he's unprepared number one because he's played like a third stringer.
00:19:07
He's basically been He's been Patrick Mahomes for a week, you know, because he's run.
00:19:12
Kansas City Chiefs Play is not New England Patriots plays, and you don't put him into a situation where let's face it, there is a There is a good chance the Patriots get thumped tonight.
00:19:22
What does that do to a young kid? Psyche? Who? What? Don't forget.
00:19:26
He lost his backup job to the guy he won the backup job from last season.
00:19:31
Brian Hoyer was cut for Jared Stidham last season, and now Jared Stidham has been enacted the first three games of the season sold.
00:19:37
Brian Hoyer could, you know, be the backup, and I also throw out there, too, and I know we need to move on.
00:19:43
But a big thing about his psyche to is Jared stood on, believed that he had a legitimate chance to compete for the starting job this season.
00:19:52
And all of a sudden, at the end of June, Cam Newton comes walking into town.
00:19:56
And even though he might have been competing, everybody on that Patriots team knew who the starting quarterback was gonna be in September and, interestingly enough, right, like they waited a little bit there, probably tell you that New England also was saying, If Steinem is clearly arms and you know arms ahead of Hoyer, maybe we do roll with him.
00:20:13
But as you start to see in camp that you're saying looks like Hoyer, it's neck and neck.
00:20:16
Even you go.
00:20:17
Okay, That means that means it can't be sitting to start the year, and we need to figure out something else to make it happen.
00:20:22
Top 10 for the Kansas City Chiefs fifth and passing eighth and Russian going up against basically middle of the road to 35 1 22 on the defensive side for the Patriots.
00:20:31
I think it's a chance for some boom passing yards from the homes.
00:20:33
But even this year, as scary as it sounds, they balanced themselves even better before we move on to the second match up here in the NFC side of things, it is, of course, the plus 11.
00:20:44
4 New England over 140 a half.
00:20:46
Lawrence will start with you.
00:20:48
Would you take the points? Are you Are you taking the Patriots to cover that spread? And what's your game? Prediction? Um, I think the Chiefs my honest, I think I would have this the score around 31 16 s.
00:21:03
So that's gonna be it's gonna be narrowly the under for that.
00:21:07
And you could go ahead and lay those points if you so chose you, right? I'm gonna go with the under a swell, Um, but I can't lay 11 points against Bill Belichick.
00:21:18
I just can't do it.
00:21:19
Um, one thing Bill Belichick does is, uh I don't think Bill Belichick, when they've been underdogs, has ever you know, as a Z, anybody ever beat the spread um, I think there's no way.
00:21:29
Even if ****ey Mouse was the quarterback today, I can't lay 11 points against Bill Belichick.
00:21:35
Also to just for a little bit of breaking news.
00:21:38
This this kind of came in about 10 minutes ago.
00:21:40
Multiple people, uh, seeing it now, Cam Newton is a symptomatic eso.
00:21:47
There is a really good possibility that he could be back in the Patriots facility by midweek.
00:21:52
Very nice.
00:21:53
So looking.
00:21:54
Looking ahead, this could be a one week pick up for New England, which is you and I talked about on Saturday.
00:21:57
Ray Right, Potentially.
00:21:58
This could cost the multiple weeks.
00:22:00
So if he can turn it around and get this team back on track, taking a one week hiatus is more manageable.
00:22:05
Although in that and now in your division, with way Buffalo has been playing in terms of winning the division, that's gonna be a little bit murkier for New England, Certainly in this one you like.
00:22:14
It shows that how important that one yard was against Seattle because that's the different, because the difference between three and one and two and two is huge, and this could have been the three and old Patriots versus three and oh, Chiefs, right? It would have been It could have been exciting and Cam Newton was playing.
00:22:30
Could have been that much more exciting.
00:22:31
Same thing builds a hard one to say, laying 11 points out there on the line.
00:22:35
So I think that maybe it stays a little bit closer and I could make the case that New England still gonna be capable of scoring points.
00:22:41
Maybe if you're able to utilize.
00:22:42
Gonna interesting to see Harris, What does he look like? If he's getting onto the field because he's a big back, you can slow the pace of the game down.
00:22:49
That's always going to be the plan of attack.
00:22:50
Regardless of who your quarterback is taking on the Chiefs.
00:22:53
If you could slow a little bit down, maybe you keep it more competitive.
00:22:56
I probably follow those in the same kind of range that Lawrence is saying, but probably closer to a 31 21.
00:23:00
I think I think this is going to be relatively close games, so I probably take the 11 and New England and I also take the over in this one.
00:23:07
Let's flip that script.
00:23:08
Let's talk Falcons Packers, the ones that lost the spotlight this evening.
00:23:12
Another guy, another coach that could be on the hot seat there, though, in this instance, this is interesting.
00:23:18
I'll give you the leading off.
00:23:19
When I look at you, think about the Atlanta Falcons.
00:23:21
Listen, they could go on for here.
00:23:23
They could lose tonight to the Packers, but then their upcoming games, they're gonna be Carolina Minnesota followed up by Detroit, Caroline again and then Denver.
00:23:31
Now I'm not saying they're gonna win every one of those games, but they could turn around and before and six through 10 games down the road here.
00:23:37
The start of their schedule has not favored them from the standpoint off.
00:23:40
They are a God awful defense.
00:23:42
Everyone recognizes that.
00:23:44
But when you play the Seahawks ah, high powered offense when you play the Cowboys Ah, high powered offense.
00:23:48
Now the Bears is the outlier here and that that that's a frustrating loss.
00:23:52
And you also know you could have beaten the Cowboys, by the way, if you understood the rules of football, but nevertheless, right, you are where you are, your own three.
00:23:59
Coming into this match up with a chance potentially to maybe try to pull this upset.
00:24:03
Here.
00:24:04
We'll go to you, Ray, to start this one off.
00:24:06
What's just your initial thoughts around this game and your expectations? Well, first of all, this is the perfect time to fire Dan Quinn.
00:24:12
If you do, you do lose this game because having that schedule coming up Ah, motivated team.
00:24:17
I think they like Quinn in Atlanta.
00:24:19
This will be a team that will feel responsible for their coaches departure.
00:24:23
And this might be the perfect time to make that change.
00:24:25
Because you could see Atlanta go on a run and give the new head coach a nice boost right over our software belly.
00:24:31
The schedule? Yeah, exactly.
00:24:33
You don't wanna put him in when they get back into the meat of their schedule when they got to play the Saints again and the Tampa Bay and all that kind of stuff now because they are gonna lose tonight.
00:24:41
I'm sorry.
00:24:42
Um, the Green Bay Packers on a mission.
00:24:44
I was talking about this last night with Are we talking about this yesterday morning and I talked about it again with my boy Connor.
00:24:50
Uh, the Green Bay Packers.
00:24:52
I don't think they're not being talked about enough this season.
00:24:55
I think they're almost being disrespected.
00:24:57
Everybody's talking about Oh, look with Tom Brady's doing in Tampa Bay.
00:25:00
Look at Patrick Mahomes.
00:25:01
Look at you know Russell Wilson.
00:25:03
I mean, yeah, Russell Wilson's my M v.
00:25:05
P right now, but Aaron Rodgers is right behind him.
00:25:07
I don't have Patrick Mahomes is now.
00:25:09
You know, our Tom Brady is my next M v p.
00:25:11
It's been Aaron Rodgers, Aaron Rodgers been on a mission this year.
00:25:14
Toe.
00:25:15
Look at Matt LaFleur and say, You want Jordan love.
00:25:17
I'm gonna I'm not giving you any reason whatsoever to think that Jordan love is gonna be a quarterback for the next four years for this team, and it doesn't even matter who he's throwing the football to.
00:25:28
His. He's moving the ball.
00:25:30
They also have a run game, and I've been pretty impressive.
00:25:32
I've been pretty impressed with that Packer's defense, and I'm gonna say it.
00:25:36
And I never thought I'd see this in Green Bay because we know kind of the stories.
00:25:39
It almost feels to me when you see the way the players, they're interacting with Rodgers.
00:25:42
It's like the players airplane for him.
00:25:44
It's like they felt that Jordan love draft right assed Muchas as much as Jordan Rodgers might be a bit of a prick, he's still Aaron Rodgers, and they know that.
00:25:52
And they're now like, you know what? That's our quarterback.
00:25:55
And you, you You know what? You could have got us help.
00:25:58
Everybody talks about how Aaron Rodgers feels.
00:26:00
How do you think all those defensive players feel when they go? You're not improving the offense.
00:26:04
You're taking a quarterback.
00:26:06
So especially if you're that wide receiving corps, you take a look at it and you go Listen, if you're Davante Adams had a couple injury bugs here early in the season.
00:26:12
But if you're any of these receivers, you go, Oh, you're gonna give me you're gonna you're gonna love here.
00:26:16
I'm gonna be I'm gonna be Davante Adams on the Green Bay Packers playing with a rookie quarterback potentially this year.
00:26:20
So he certainly got reignited their Lawrence.
00:26:23
As we look at this matchup, you're talking about fourth ranked offense for the Falcons, second for Green Bay.
00:26:28
So two high power teams on that side, Green Bay has been middle of the road here.
00:26:31
Same way.
00:26:32
I highlight the start of the season for the Falcons, though.
00:26:33
In their schedule, Green Bay comes in off of Minnesota, Detroit and at least a slightly dysfunctional early in the year.
00:26:40
New Orleans Saints.
00:26:41
Do you think that, you know, do you need because it's another bad defense here? I think that this is great for the Green Bay Packers is a great way to start their year.
00:26:49
But I don't know if I can fully buy into what they are.
00:26:51
They're gonna win 10 or 11 12 games this year just by default.
00:26:55
Not unlike last year where they want a ton of games.
00:26:57
But I don't think we'll fully know what they are unless the defense really steps up until it gets to playoff time.
00:27:03
Yeah, I kind of agree, Um, their schedule really doesn't allow uh, really good matchups this year with them.
00:27:11
I mean, they're also in in the division where the Lions air disappointing.
00:27:15
Uh, quite frankly, Chicago has been overrated, right? The Vikings air the Vikings.
00:27:22
Uh, so they're in a division where it's it's not hard to really stand out right now.
00:27:30
All you gotta do is win some games, and Aaron Rodgers right now is just lighting the world on fire.
00:27:37
And it's just sad because, honestly, Dan Quinn's walking into this game is the head coach of the Atlanta Falcons.
00:27:46
At halftime.
00:27:47
The score is going to probably have 35 points at halftime on Green Bay Side, and then Dan Cutter comes out as the head coach of the Falcons for the second half.
00:27:57
I mean, and you know what? That would be a beautiful I would love to get.
00:28:02
That would be beautiful, wouldn't it? That would get them all kind of attention and everything.
00:28:08
I mean, it's not like Atlanta's a big name, you know, Big market, uh, team or anything like that.
00:28:15
I think that would be perfect.
00:28:17
I would love to see Dan Cutter come out in the second half as the head coach or dirt cutter.
00:28:23
Not Dan.
00:28:24
Sorry, cutter, Come out second half, you guys a question.
00:28:28
If Quinn does say, does get fired after this game, do you think he gets another shot as a head coach in the NFL? I mean, we've watched them blow a Super Bowl, and we've watched them really kind of underachieved with this Falcons team.
00:28:39
After that? No, Probably not, because his name doesn't have cash a around the league.
00:28:44
But again and again, look at the offense in Atlanta.
00:28:46
You can say, Let's give you a coordinator job.
00:28:48
Potentially, that could be the rap that he goes, but unfortunately, I think you know it's few and far between.
00:28:55
You have to have really achieved something consistently toe, have things kind of fall apart on the back end of your 10 year and then still find yourself in another position.
00:29:04
Now, I guess you could say if you looked around the league and some of the bottom feeders, you know, I was gonna say even Jacksonville.
00:29:10
But they've really actually come out a little bit stronger.
00:29:12
Maybe Bryan Flores in Miami doesn't make it through all of this.
00:29:15
They start to turn over to to, uh, at some point this year next season.
00:29:18
So there might be some spots around the league that are looking for a bit of ah, kick, and you think that at least on one side of the ball, you can have that consistency.
00:29:26
But you know it's not on him that the defense is atrocious.
00:29:30
I'll go back to that game against the Cowboys.
00:29:33
When you have that many players on your team not understanding what they're capable of going to do there on an onside kick.
00:29:40
That, to me just reeks from the top down, head coaching off. We're not prepared.
00:29:44
We're not prepared to play in these games.
00:29:46
And that's a red flag for another organization to take a flyer on a guy like that.
00:29:50
Um, you know the other.
00:29:51
The other numbers that you really talked about here is far as this game goes, I look off to the side for a moment.
00:29:55
The Packers are.
00:29:56
There's one for 300 yards rushing for 171.
00:29:59
I have to go back inside some of those games and see where the big numbers were.
00:30:02
But Jones is.
00:30:03
You know, Jones is a runner.
00:30:04
You have Williams.
00:30:05
There is well, I've been waiting to see if a J Dilla never gets his body on the field at some point along the way.
00:30:10
And this might be the kind of game where you do get to see him in the 3rd and 4th quarter, because to your point, Lawrence, I don't know how you get toe halftime without having given up.
00:30:20
I mean, if you if you give up three touchdowns, I think you'd feel pretty good about yourself.
00:30:24
Davante Adams is a little questionable, so there are some risks there.
00:30:27
But likewise for Atlanta, you have both.
00:30:29
They're gonna play.
00:30:30
But Ridley dealing with injuries.
00:30:32
Julio Jones dealing with injuries and not unlike the Patriot game, where he said, I think this one's gonna be more competitive, just plus 5.5.
00:30:38
But you are looking at a situation where Atlanta's gonna have to through girly and then maybe even the young player Hill.
00:30:43
They're gonna have to try to control this game when they're on offense, and that's difficult for a team that is a launch it and go.
00:30:50
You know they want to bomb it out and they have to try to play out of character now, to get a win against a team like Green Bay, that's gonna be very difficult.
00:30:58
You look at both these games, you got the Patriots in Atlanta both the underdogs in these games and they both want to run and control the clock in orderto win these games and um, it's gonna be difficult It's good.
00:31:12
This is more difficult with Atlanta and they've got girly on their team, and I think it's a it's a It's a much steeper climb for them than it is going to be for the Patriots, in my opinion.
00:31:24
And man, you know that Matty Ice wants to throw the football, you know, readily and and and Jones want, want, want the ball, they always want the ball.
00:31:36
And I think that Davante Adams not playing this game if you know being questionable is getting overblown a little bit.
00:31:43
Because Davante Adams didn't play last week and Aaron Rodgers had 283 passing yards and three passing touchdowns had a 1 24.
00:31:50
9 passer rating.
00:31:52
You lose Lazard as well, so if it was both of them, But again, you go back to last year, man, this is why coming to this season, it was so strange that everyone seemed to be, you know, kind of digging the grave for Aaron Rodgers.
00:32:05
He did this last year when Davante Adams was out where he said, Okay, how do I got scant Ling? Okay, Whatever.
00:32:10
You know, whoever it is, go ahead.
00:32:11
Come on, like, let's roll like that's the impact of a quarterback like Aaron Rodgers on a roster.
00:32:15
It doesn't matter if you've been on this roster for a few years, you know how to run your routes.
00:32:19
You know how to be in the right spot.
00:32:20
Aaron Rodgers will find you and again against Atlanta's defense against that secondary.
00:32:25
It also doesn't require you to be perfect.
00:32:28
You just have to be on point for what, three out of seven plays here and there, and you're still gonna get yourself that leap.
00:32:34
And I threw a tweet out last week to we've seen something out of Aaron Rodgers that we haven't I don't think ever seen.
00:32:40
His tight ends had nine catches last week.
00:32:43
Aaron Rodgers has been throat a tight ends.
00:32:45
He throws the wide receivers.
00:32:46
So the fact that to me his game has evolved even more, he's like, Okay, I'm not going to force it to receivers.
00:32:53
If I got, I will throw to my running back.
00:32:56
I think there was like three tight ends and four running backs that caught passes last week.
00:33:00
That's a very unerring Rogers like you.
00:33:03
No offense and also his evolution in a new offensive system under new head coach.
00:33:08
Right.
00:33:09
So you're seeing that growth here in year number two as well.
00:33:11
Listen, boys, we did it.
00:33:12
We've crested over the 30 minute mark.
00:33:14
Let's get out the door on the predictions.
00:33:16
56 a half is the over under in this game.
00:33:19
Plus 5.5 for the Falcons.
00:33:21
Ray, you get the honors to kick it off.
00:33:23
Where you going? What's your score? Well, I mean, if if Lawrence is saying 56 a half or 35 at the half, I have to take the over on.
00:33:34
Uh, yeah, I've got the I'll leave 5.
00:33:36
5 on the Packers.
00:33:38
No worries for you, Laurence.
00:33:41
Yeah.
00:33:42
Yeah, I would.
00:33:43
I legitimately Don't be surprised if the packers cover the over by themselves.
00:33:50
A good lord, You know what? And not for nothing.
00:33:53
Especially even in that game.
00:33:54
You could say you're in the fifties and you're still getting up 24 to 30 points or something.
00:33:58
Just a good old fashioned bomb fest will just be beautiful to watch from an entertainment standpoint, like what I think is the same thing.
00:34:04
Listen, I do think that Atlanta as bad as they are defensively, they're talented enough in Green Bay isn't quite yet there.
00:34:10
You wanna look ahead? The matchup against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers becomes a nice barometer game for the Green Bay Packers because they have a solid defense.
00:34:20
Now you start to match things up and see how your defense looks against Tom Brady, who's still doing it down there in Florida.
00:34:25
So that'll be fun.
00:34:26
Want to look ahead? Thio? Yeah, I'll take the over here pretty easy.
00:34:28
I'll lay the points and take Green Bay.
00:34:30
It feels like the easy answer.
00:34:32
And going into week number five, we could be talking about multiple coaches that have been let go and franchises in a bit of a pivotal spot.
00:34:39
Atlanta Maybe even worse off because you've got Matt Ryan on the back end of his career here.
00:34:43
You know you don't know where you go next from this, and when you have is bad of defense, is they do.
00:34:48
Who's throwing the ball to Ridley, whose throat I mean? Listen, Julio Jones, back in two.
00:34:52
But you have weapons there now.
00:34:53
It's about who are you gonna put under center in the next couple of seasons to start to try to rebuild their as well.
00:34:59
Seven o'clock kickoff for the early game, uh, pushed back to 8.
00:35:03
50 PM on this late game between the Falcons and the Packers for Ray, who you can follow covering New England patriots here on SportsCastr.
00:35:10
Plug yourself, Ray. Go ahead.
00:35:12
Yeah, you can find me at, uh, d p n underscore, Ray.
00:35:15
You can also find the Red Route Network where I cover the patriots to cover the NFL.
00:35:19
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00:35:23
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00:35:41
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And with that friends, we welcome you back into the SportsCastr New Central, where it is I, Adam Arm Brecko.
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Look at that.
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And Ray Ralph coming in with a beautiful freeze frame as we look ahead.
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So it's gonna be an exciting Monday night, obviously, because of co vid 19 rearing its ugly head, we actually get to do a little double dip here on Monday night.
00:01:03
Unfortunately for Ray in New England Patriots, they'll be doing it with out Cam Newton on as they take on the Kansas City Chiefs.
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You really couldn't afford to lose anybody, but specifically the guy that was on the comeback trail, trying to maybe reclaim Comeback Player of the year this season.
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And then in the later game, with all the Falcons and the Packers, they get push back a little bit.
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ESPN loses some of its muster by having to go head to head with the NFL on Monday night.
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And then there's Laurence. Owen.
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Buddy, we're here.
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We're doing this thing before we dive in.
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Let's just say welcome.
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How are your friends? Hello.
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Thank you for everybody who's tuning in.
00:01:42
I'm doing absolutely miserable on this Monday night, I mean I get to watch football.
00:01:47
Um, if this game goes the way experts are expecting it to go, ESPN won't be competing with anybody because everybody will just change the channel over at 8 50.
00:01:55
But I will be sitting through all the misery of the New England Patriots in the Kansas City Chiefs, and I don't think it's gonna be this big blowout that everybody thinks it's gonna be.
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And when we get into that, I will tell you why.
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But I do want to put out a word of warning for Kansas City Chiefs fans.
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If Kansas City wins tonight, as expected, I will not care.
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I will not be affected.
00:02:17
You be Brian Hoyer.
00:02:19
But if the New England Patriots, when I promise you I will be insufferable not just for the week but the entire season, you might as well just stop watching me from this point on because you will not hear the end of you lost toe.
00:02:37
Brian Hoyer.
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Well, Lawrence, is there anything that you'd like to soapbox over before we follow the rundown of this show? And don't just jump ahead and automatically start insulting Kansas City Chiefs fans? I mean out there.
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You're right. Come on.
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Uh, I didn't jump.
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I just insult him immediately, Lawrence.
00:02:57
And as we dive into this, anything that you're excited about before we talk.
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Not just about these Monday night matchups, but first off the NFL news that really broke here within just the last hour or so around a firing in the league and maybe a change of power here.
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A shift of dynamics down there in the great state of Texas.
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Yeah, they fired one guy.
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And now there are three postings at the unemployment office in Houston.
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And that's where we started before we dive in on it.
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Bill O'Brien is there.
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I don't know if you guys have ever experiences.
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Have you ever been fired twice in the same day.
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Were possibly asked.
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Hey, Bill, would you mind going down to the head coaching office and letting him know that we're gonna let him go? And then when you're finished their head on upstairs, the guys would like to talk to you.
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Bill O'Brien out.
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Oh, and four.
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Start for the for the Houston Texans.
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You can't really be shocked by this move.
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I think it's the right move for the organization.
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And yet, as we were talking about before we got into this, you do it after you let him trade away Nuke after you take your franchise quarterbacks.
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Best weapon.
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His security blanket.
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You strip him away.
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You bring in a David Johnson.
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A reasonable played pretty well, actually.
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So far to start the year for them, but not nearly the impact player that Hopkins is.
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Do you think that this was just man a step too late for? For the Houston Texans ownership group will start with you, Lawrence.
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How do you look at this? Firing by Bill for for Bill O Brien by the Houston, Texas.
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I think this was a terrible timing.
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Terrible timing.
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Personally, uh, should have happened before, Like as soon as they heard.
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Oh, well, he might be trading Hopkins.
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I would have been, like, no gone or you made the bed sit in it for a while.
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Um, I don't like the idea of bringing people in midway.
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Uh, now you got Romeo Coronel head coaching that did the Browns a great service way back in the day.
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It's not goingto it's not gonna turn out as good as you think.
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it's going to I really don't I don't think they're gonna improve this season by the firing of Bill O Brien.
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I think they should have kept it, kept their ears out and just kept him around.
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Um, just just for the sake of the locker, the locker room, I mean, the locker room itself as me and Ray we're talking about.
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They're already a very solid locker room.
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When ah, when your players get together and say We don't want a specific player on this team and we won't play if you go hire him.
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That tells you what kind of locker room they have with without Bill O'Brien on.
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Well, and listen right we're talking about is that Shawn Watson, when asked about it, said, it is what it is. We're owned. Four.
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I'm not gonna let it take my joy.
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My spirit, my smile, my energy, my love of the game is still going to be there.
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That doesn't sound like a guy who was particularly distraught over the firing of his head.
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Coach of the G. M.
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I think Lawrence makes a fair point around, You know you're in it now.
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You might as well write it out.
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But I think the advantages when you have a GM head coach now, whoever starts to make some of those decisions at the highest level gets to evaluate this roster over the course of this season and then go into the off season with fresh eyes, understanding where they want to make changes.
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Yes, and I think that's the big thing.
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Let's also not forget that they do not have a first round or second round draft pick in the Miami Dolphins Air just hoping for this tank.
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The worst thing that could happen for Miami was Bill O'Brien being fired.
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Um, look, when he traded DeAndre Hopkins this offseason, Lawrence, I said to you, his leash is half a game.
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I said if he's losing at half time in the first game, he should be fired in the dressing room.
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You had to let him trade DeAndre Hopkins.
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You just gave him the GM power last season.
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If you weren't happy with, um, you had to fire him after last season.
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Once you went into it, you had to do it.
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Bill O'Brien.
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The coach, was fired today.
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Bill O'Brien just happened to be the general manager as well.
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Um, you had to make this move their own four.
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They have the highest payroll in the National Football League.
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It's like to its higher.
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They were just showing today the highest.
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It's higher than the Kansas City Chiefs with, like $18 in salary cap at some point this season.
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And you know, Lawrence, I think that for for me.
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And I say Lawrence specifically because Adam wasn't a part of the 150 conversations.
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I think for me, it's you.
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And I sat there and said, Randall Cobb, you know, Brandon cooks a running back, you know, in Johnson Fuller on this team.
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This Titans team is actually better without DeAndre Hopkins.
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And they were with DeAndre Hopkins.
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I'm not saying DeAndre Hopkins is a bad wide receiver.
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It's been my opinion.
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He's the best in the NFL.
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But the Texans offense ran through DeAndre Hopkins.
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You now gave to Shawn Watson viable targets around the field.
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This lineup on defense is still amazingly crazy that any team in the in the NFL would trade their defense for this Texans defense with some of the names that they have on that on that roster, And yet Bill O'Brien led them to Oh, and four.
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Now we could argue they lost to the Chiefs.
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They lost to the Ravens.
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They, you know, they lost to the good teams in the NFL, Steelers, the Steelers.
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But if you're supposed to be a top three, we had them.
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Is the top three teams.
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If you're supposed to be a top three, you should be competing.
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They didn't compete against the big teams.
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They were blowing out by the big teams.
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That's unacceptable.
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You had to make a coaching change.
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He just happens to be the GM.
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And my last point is is Romeo is a **** saint, okay, you do not use his name in vain around me.
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Now listen, we won't We won't go too far into Houston, because obviously we're here about the Monday Night football games.
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But, Ray, you make that point and I think, listen, if you wanna be pretty honest about it, too, if your ownership you may have taken a look at this and said, am I gonna risk and I don't think this is necessarily how they approached it.
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But when you look at the start of their schedule and you said, Look at the first three games of this season.
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I honestly think that if they had beaten the Minnesota Vikings, who are not looking so sharp this year, things would have been okay there because those first three games are very difficult. Matchup.
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So win, no matter how confident you feel about your team, writes a coin flip toe win any of those games, arguably less than a coin flip against, say, the Chiefs.
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So you come out of those first three, you take your wounds and then you lose to Minnesota.
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And now, when you look at that, when you look at that schedule for Romeo Crennel going forward, listen, he's going to get the Jaguars.
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She's gonna get difficult.
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Matchup. So against the Titans, the Packers.
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But he will get the Jaguars again and then the brand of the Patriots.
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So it's not gonna be an easy road, no matter who was gonna take over here.
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But I think after you lose to the Minnesota Vikings, that's probably where you get the full sample size that you needed to know that this isn't gonna work in the big picture.
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And if I could just add one thing to that, Adam, I think the fact that Shawn Watson came out and basically says it is what it is, You know, I'm talking a lot of dampen my spirits.
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Normally, when a coach gets fired, players take it personal.
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They say, no, we let him down.
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Uh, it's our fault.
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And sometimes that motivates guys like we need to play for Bill Now, you know, it's our fault.
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He got fired.
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Watson basically went well.
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It is what it is. I'm not.
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I'm still gonna have fun.
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I'm still gonna play football.
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I'm getting my money.
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I don't care, by the way, thanks so much for the paycheck, Bill.
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But also, I'm all right with you not being here and and and that is.
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And if your ownership to if you you probably you obviously had your hand and extending Watson.
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And now you look at it and go, we need to satisfy our franchise quarterback.
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That's what goal number one has to be for them as they move forward.
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I want to say one thing as well.
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I'm sorry.
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No, you mentioned it.
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And, Ray, I'm gonna put them both together.
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The coach got fired as we talked about Ray.
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We believe that this offense is better this year than what they were last year as an overall team.
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It's the play calling that has held them back.
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You know, it's not using these weapons in a proper way, so I get why they want to change the play color.
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But I don't know, man.
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I don't know who is gonna be making the play calls and and understanding the personnel quick enough in order to turn this team around in any way, shape or form in the next quarter of the season.
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Can I just throw one thing that you guys to? I think I've already I think I already know who the next coach of the taxes team is gonna be.
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Okay, let me.
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No. I really think it's gonna be Josh McDaniels.
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I really think he's gonna look at that team.
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I think they're gonna look and I think that he'd actually be a good fit.
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As from an offensive standpoint of having that mind on that team this season is what it is.
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I've heard a lot about Kansas City's offensive.
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Yeah, listen well.
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And as we transition into the first matchup tonight the Patriots going up against the Kansas City Chiefs.
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So what better blend there? I'll say on the footnote about McDaniels, and this isn't a knock on him.
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I think he's absolutely fantastic.
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Some guys are best suited as a coordinator, as opposed to being the head coach.
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And I wonder if the sample size that you got in Denver was enough to determine that about McDaniels or if it was just a bad fit, you know, and he had to take his lumps before he gets another shot.
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So it be interesting to keep an eye on that when we turn our attention over to this matchup tonight.
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The early game, ray on your side of things.
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Number of concerns for New England Coming into this once, um, injuries.
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We're gonna have a guy actually coming off of IR, which is nice.
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But across the offensive line concerns just protecting and setting up.
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And what we know is going to be a difficult matchup for them now.
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This Patriots offensive line has been stupid good this year, and I don't think people have realized what this offensive line has been going through.
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Their starting right tackle, Marcus can and opted out this season, and they've been putting Jermaine Alumina or who's been a guard his entire career at right tackle.
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Uh, last week, David Andrews went on the I R.
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Whose are starting center, and you haven't noticed Marcus Cannon.
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And you didn't notice that David Andrews wasn't there last week.
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Joe Tooni, probably one of the top left guards in the league, moved over to center.
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They put a rookie in his left guard.
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You didn't even notice it.
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Now the starting right guard, Shaq Mason, is out, and I assume it's either gonna be Jermaine Alumina or Yanni.
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Can you say that's going to go into play? Right guard? Neither one is a a really viable option in my mind.
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But this Patriots offensive line, the same as last year, I said, has been like a house of cards and injuries could kill us.
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But what I think we're going to see tonight and now it may be unfair.
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If Shaq Mason was playing, perhaps we could have got a better, but I think we're going to see tonight because I've asked this question.
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Has the offensive line played this great or is Cam Newton and his ability to move around and people not wanting to go on full out blitzes at them, because if he finds a hole in your entire teams behind him, you're gonna lose 40 yards.
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Did he make this line look better because Brady made this exact line via No David Andrews last year look like the worst offensive line in the NFL.
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So tonight, I think with Brian Hoyer back there, that's going to be the big test now.
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Chris Jones is out for tonight.
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So that is good news for the Patriots.
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Because at least it's, you know, giving up Shaq Mason and giving up Chris Jones is sort of a trade off from an offensive defense of battle.
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Um, look, Tony, Michelle is on the i. R.
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I'm not actually that concern because date, as as Adam said, they switched around.
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They bring in Damian Harris.
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A lot of people believed that Damian Harris was gonna be Sony Michelle's replacement anyways this season.
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And besides a couple of runs against Las Vegas last week, Sony Michelle actually hasn't played great again this season to the point of the Thursday before the Raiders game, because I've been a Sony Michelle defender for the last two seasons.
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I actually road off Sony Michelle and said, I can't defend him anymore, just without so just to just to get Lawrence in on the mix here a little bit without, um without having Cam Newton right now.
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And this is again.
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You think about relative to the schedule.
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Right? Cameras looks really good.
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The Patriots have looked pretty strong to start the season now.
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Did they play the Dolphins to start the season in a loss? A good game against the Seahawks, But the Seahawks defense has not been great to start off this year, either.
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And then they play the Raiders, Another suspect defense.
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Lawrence.
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When you look at them and you're talking about the Kansas City Chiefs that are 27th against the run defensively given up almost 140 yards per game and third against the past, how are they going to approach Hoyer, where, even though we know the stat lines for the Patriots from a run standpoint, are a lot more inflated based on Cam Newton's presence? What are the Chiefs gonna look to do here is this Are they gonna just risk it all and shut down the running game and say, Hoyer, prove that you can beat us against our secondary.
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I think they they absolutely have to do that.
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I as a Kansas City standpoint, um, history has shown that, uh, read will when he goes up against a team knowing that the other team is going to want to try to run the ball and control the clock is going to load that box and make you beat them in the past.
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And with Brian Hoyer sitting back there and with receivers that were already questionable coming into the season for New England, I think that's exactly what his plan is.
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He's gonna be like, You know what? I'm gonna drop eight in that box and I'm gonna force Hoyer to try to throw the football at me and keep up with Patrick Mahomes.
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I think, too, that one of the factors into that 27th overall against the run is over.
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The last three weeks, they have had to face to Shawn Watson, a Justin Herbert who has been very impressive as a rookie on.
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Then they had to face Lamar Jackson.
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Eso you have to respect quarterback so much in your first three games that you played that it's easy.
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It's basically we're going to stop the quarterback and let them run the football.
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You know, it's almost that bend, but don't break.
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Today's an exact opposite effect for Kansas City.
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It's let's stop the run and hey, go ahead, Brian Hoyer.
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Try to throw the football on us.
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I think it's more on Bill Belichick now is how can I make passing the football effective for this team? How Doe I do it? I think that we're going to see a bit of a throwback toe or, you know what? We've used it for 20 years.
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We're going to see a much more Tom Brady asked type of offense of, you know, throws to the running backs and and Julian Edelman coming off the line.
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The problem is, with the Patriots weapons being so slow and not being able to get separation in Kansas City's secondary playing pretty good.
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Uh, there's gonna have to be, ah, lot of magic that comes out of this game, and unfortunately, when you play a team like the Kansas City Chiefs, very similar to how the Patriots, you know, let's call it almost one against Seattle.
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Um, my big thing in that game was it wasn't about stopping Seattle and they didn't.
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It was about keeping pace.
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Is an offense and your defense making two or three stops? I think this Patriots defense is capable of making two or three stops, but without Cam Newton, I don't know if they're capable of keeping up with the Kansas City Chiefs or keeping them off the field long enough.
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Hey, Ray, I have a question for you.
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I think it's a question that a lot of people who are getting ready to watch this game has in their mind how short of a leash with Bill Belichick have on Brian Hoyer this game.
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I think he's got a foolish I don't think that **** all.
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So if he walks in and throws two interceptions in the first quarter, he's gonna keep him in there. It is what it is.
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I've got two things about Jared did happen.
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Adam and I discussed this on Saturday.
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Number one Jared Stidham is a third string quarterback of the New England Patriots.
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No matter which way you cut it, people could say he got injured in camp.
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People could say he's better than Brian Hoyer.
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I don't care. He's the third string quarterback.
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You know how many reps he got with the starter prior to this game? Zero Because that's how many of the third string quarterback gets.
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He was a scout team quarterback all week, Brian.
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Now, even though Cam Newton would have got the majority of the first team reps.
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Brian Hoyer, being the backup would have got some of those reps.
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Number two.
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This is not the type of game that you put a guy like Jarrett Stidham into.
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Um, he's unprepared number one because he's played like a third stringer.
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He's basically been He's been Patrick Mahomes for a week, you know, because he's run.
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Kansas City Chiefs Play is not New England Patriots plays, and you don't put him into a situation where let's face it, there is a There is a good chance the Patriots get thumped tonight.
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What does that do to a young kid? Psyche? Who? What? Don't forget.
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He lost his backup job to the guy he won the backup job from last season.
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Brian Hoyer was cut for Jared Stidham last season, and now Jared Stidham has been enacted the first three games of the season sold.
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Brian Hoyer could, you know, be the backup, and I also throw out there, too, and I know we need to move on.
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But a big thing about his psyche to is Jared stood on, believed that he had a legitimate chance to compete for the starting job this season.
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And all of a sudden, at the end of June, Cam Newton comes walking into town.
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And even though he might have been competing, everybody on that Patriots team knew who the starting quarterback was gonna be in September and, interestingly enough, right, like they waited a little bit there, probably tell you that New England also was saying, If Steinem is clearly arms and you know arms ahead of Hoyer, maybe we do roll with him.
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But as you start to see in camp that you're saying looks like Hoyer, it's neck and neck.
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Even you go.
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Okay, That means that means it can't be sitting to start the year, and we need to figure out something else to make it happen.
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Top 10 for the Kansas City Chiefs fifth and passing eighth and Russian going up against basically middle of the road to 35 1 22 on the defensive side for the Patriots.
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I think it's a chance for some boom passing yards from the homes.
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But even this year, as scary as it sounds, they balanced themselves even better before we move on to the second match up here in the NFC side of things, it is, of course, the plus 11.
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4 New England over 140 a half.
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Lawrence will start with you.
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Would you take the points? Are you Are you taking the Patriots to cover that spread? And what's your game? Prediction? Um, I think the Chiefs my honest, I think I would have this the score around 31 16 s.
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So that's gonna be it's gonna be narrowly the under for that.
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And you could go ahead and lay those points if you so chose you, right? I'm gonna go with the under a swell, Um, but I can't lay 11 points against Bill Belichick.
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I just can't do it.
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Um, one thing Bill Belichick does is, uh I don't think Bill Belichick, when they've been underdogs, has ever you know, as a Z, anybody ever beat the spread um, I think there's no way.
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Even if ****ey Mouse was the quarterback today, I can't lay 11 points against Bill Belichick.
00:21:35
Also to just for a little bit of breaking news.
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This this kind of came in about 10 minutes ago.
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Multiple people, uh, seeing it now, Cam Newton is a symptomatic eso.
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There is a really good possibility that he could be back in the Patriots facility by midweek.
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Very nice.
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So looking.
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Looking ahead, this could be a one week pick up for New England, which is you and I talked about on Saturday.
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Ray Right, Potentially.
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This could cost the multiple weeks.
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So if he can turn it around and get this team back on track, taking a one week hiatus is more manageable.
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Although in that and now in your division, with way Buffalo has been playing in terms of winning the division, that's gonna be a little bit murkier for New England, Certainly in this one you like.
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It shows that how important that one yard was against Seattle because that's the different, because the difference between three and one and two and two is huge, and this could have been the three and old Patriots versus three and oh, Chiefs, right? It would have been It could have been exciting and Cam Newton was playing.
00:22:30
Could have been that much more exciting.
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Same thing builds a hard one to say, laying 11 points out there on the line.
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So I think that maybe it stays a little bit closer and I could make the case that New England still gonna be capable of scoring points.
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Maybe if you're able to utilize.
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Gonna interesting to see Harris, What does he look like? If he's getting onto the field because he's a big back, you can slow the pace of the game down.
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That's always going to be the plan of attack.
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Regardless of who your quarterback is taking on the Chiefs.
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If you could slow a little bit down, maybe you keep it more competitive.
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I probably follow those in the same kind of range that Lawrence is saying, but probably closer to a 31 21.
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I think I think this is going to be relatively close games, so I probably take the 11 and New England and I also take the over in this one.
00:23:07
Let's flip that script.
00:23:08
Let's talk Falcons Packers, the ones that lost the spotlight this evening.
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Another guy, another coach that could be on the hot seat there, though, in this instance, this is interesting.
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I'll give you the leading off.
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When I look at you, think about the Atlanta Falcons.
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Listen, they could go on for here.
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They could lose tonight to the Packers, but then their upcoming games, they're gonna be Carolina Minnesota followed up by Detroit, Caroline again and then Denver.
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Now I'm not saying they're gonna win every one of those games, but they could turn around and before and six through 10 games down the road here.
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The start of their schedule has not favored them from the standpoint off.
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They are a God awful defense.
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Everyone recognizes that.
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But when you play the Seahawks ah, high powered offense when you play the Cowboys Ah, high powered offense.
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Now the Bears is the outlier here and that that that's a frustrating loss.
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And you also know you could have beaten the Cowboys, by the way, if you understood the rules of football, but nevertheless, right, you are where you are, your own three.
00:23:59
Coming into this match up with a chance potentially to maybe try to pull this upset.
00:24:03
Here.
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We'll go to you, Ray, to start this one off.
00:24:06
What's just your initial thoughts around this game and your expectations? Well, first of all, this is the perfect time to fire Dan Quinn.
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If you do, you do lose this game because having that schedule coming up Ah, motivated team.
00:24:17
I think they like Quinn in Atlanta.
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This will be a team that will feel responsible for their coaches departure.
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And this might be the perfect time to make that change.
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Because you could see Atlanta go on a run and give the new head coach a nice boost right over our software belly.
00:24:31
The schedule? Yeah, exactly.
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You don't wanna put him in when they get back into the meat of their schedule when they got to play the Saints again and the Tampa Bay and all that kind of stuff now because they are gonna lose tonight.
00:24:41
I'm sorry.
00:24:42
Um, the Green Bay Packers on a mission.
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I was talking about this last night with Are we talking about this yesterday morning and I talked about it again with my boy Connor.
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Uh, the Green Bay Packers.
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I don't think they're not being talked about enough this season.
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I think they're almost being disrespected.
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Everybody's talking about Oh, look with Tom Brady's doing in Tampa Bay.
00:25:00
Look at Patrick Mahomes.
00:25:01
Look at you know Russell Wilson.
00:25:03
I mean, yeah, Russell Wilson's my M v.
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P right now, but Aaron Rodgers is right behind him.
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I don't have Patrick Mahomes is now.
00:25:09
You know, our Tom Brady is my next M v p.
00:25:11
It's been Aaron Rodgers, Aaron Rodgers been on a mission this year.
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Toe.
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Look at Matt LaFleur and say, You want Jordan love.
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I'm gonna I'm not giving you any reason whatsoever to think that Jordan love is gonna be a quarterback for the next four years for this team, and it doesn't even matter who he's throwing the football to.
00:25:28
His. He's moving the ball.
00:25:30
They also have a run game, and I've been pretty impressive.
00:25:32
I've been pretty impressed with that Packer's defense, and I'm gonna say it.
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And I never thought I'd see this in Green Bay because we know kind of the stories.
00:25:39
It almost feels to me when you see the way the players, they're interacting with Rodgers.
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It's like the players airplane for him.
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It's like they felt that Jordan love draft right assed Muchas as much as Jordan Rodgers might be a bit of a prick, he's still Aaron Rodgers, and they know that.
00:25:52
And they're now like, you know what? That's our quarterback.
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And you, you You know what? You could have got us help.
00:25:58
Everybody talks about how Aaron Rodgers feels.
00:26:00
How do you think all those defensive players feel when they go? You're not improving the offense.
00:26:04
You're taking a quarterback.
00:26:06
So especially if you're that wide receiving corps, you take a look at it and you go Listen, if you're Davante Adams had a couple injury bugs here early in the season.
00:26:12
But if you're any of these receivers, you go, Oh, you're gonna give me you're gonna you're gonna love here.
00:26:16
I'm gonna be I'm gonna be Davante Adams on the Green Bay Packers playing with a rookie quarterback potentially this year.
00:26:20
So he certainly got reignited their Lawrence.
00:26:23
As we look at this matchup, you're talking about fourth ranked offense for the Falcons, second for Green Bay.
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So two high power teams on that side, Green Bay has been middle of the road here.
00:26:31
Same way.
00:26:32
I highlight the start of the season for the Falcons, though.
00:26:33
In their schedule, Green Bay comes in off of Minnesota, Detroit and at least a slightly dysfunctional early in the year.
00:26:40
New Orleans Saints.
00:26:41
Do you think that, you know, do you need because it's another bad defense here? I think that this is great for the Green Bay Packers is a great way to start their year.
00:26:49
But I don't know if I can fully buy into what they are.
00:26:51
They're gonna win 10 or 11 12 games this year just by default.
00:26:55
Not unlike last year where they want a ton of games.
00:26:57
But I don't think we'll fully know what they are unless the defense really steps up until it gets to playoff time.
00:27:03
Yeah, I kind of agree, Um, their schedule really doesn't allow uh, really good matchups this year with them.
00:27:11
I mean, they're also in in the division where the Lions air disappointing.
00:27:15
Uh, quite frankly, Chicago has been overrated, right? The Vikings air the Vikings.
00:27:22
Uh, so they're in a division where it's it's not hard to really stand out right now.
00:27:30
All you gotta do is win some games, and Aaron Rodgers right now is just lighting the world on fire.
00:27:37
And it's just sad because, honestly, Dan Quinn's walking into this game is the head coach of the Atlanta Falcons.
00:27:46
At halftime.
00:27:47
The score is going to probably have 35 points at halftime on Green Bay Side, and then Dan Cutter comes out as the head coach of the Falcons for the second half.
00:27:57
I mean, and you know what? That would be a beautiful I would love to get.
00:28:02
That would be beautiful, wouldn't it? That would get them all kind of attention and everything.
00:28:08
I mean, it's not like Atlanta's a big name, you know, Big market, uh, team or anything like that.
00:28:15
I think that would be perfect.
00:28:17
I would love to see Dan Cutter come out in the second half as the head coach or dirt cutter.
00:28:23
Not Dan.
00:28:24
Sorry, cutter, Come out second half, you guys a question.
00:28:28
If Quinn does say, does get fired after this game, do you think he gets another shot as a head coach in the NFL? I mean, we've watched them blow a Super Bowl, and we've watched them really kind of underachieved with this Falcons team.
00:28:39
After that? No, Probably not, because his name doesn't have cash a around the league.
00:28:44
But again and again, look at the offense in Atlanta.
00:28:46
You can say, Let's give you a coordinator job.
00:28:48
Potentially, that could be the rap that he goes, but unfortunately, I think you know it's few and far between.
00:28:55
You have to have really achieved something consistently toe, have things kind of fall apart on the back end of your 10 year and then still find yourself in another position.
00:29:04
Now, I guess you could say if you looked around the league and some of the bottom feeders, you know, I was gonna say even Jacksonville.
00:29:10
But they've really actually come out a little bit stronger.
00:29:12
Maybe Bryan Flores in Miami doesn't make it through all of this.
00:29:15
They start to turn over to to, uh, at some point this year next season.
00:29:18
So there might be some spots around the league that are looking for a bit of ah, kick, and you think that at least on one side of the ball, you can have that consistency.
00:29:26
But you know it's not on him that the defense is atrocious.
00:29:30
I'll go back to that game against the Cowboys.
00:29:33
When you have that many players on your team not understanding what they're capable of going to do there on an onside kick.
00:29:40
That, to me just reeks from the top down, head coaching off. We're not prepared.
00:29:44
We're not prepared to play in these games.
00:29:46
And that's a red flag for another organization to take a flyer on a guy like that.
00:29:50
Um, you know the other.
00:29:51
The other numbers that you really talked about here is far as this game goes, I look off to the side for a moment.
00:29:55
The Packers are.
00:29:56
There's one for 300 yards rushing for 171.
00:29:59
I have to go back inside some of those games and see where the big numbers were.
00:30:02
But Jones is.
00:30:03
You know, Jones is a runner.
00:30:04
You have Williams.
00:30:05
There is well, I've been waiting to see if a J Dilla never gets his body on the field at some point along the way.
00:30:10
And this might be the kind of game where you do get to see him in the 3rd and 4th quarter, because to your point, Lawrence, I don't know how you get toe halftime without having given up.
00:30:20
I mean, if you if you give up three touchdowns, I think you'd feel pretty good about yourself.
00:30:24
Davante Adams is a little questionable, so there are some risks there.
00:30:27
But likewise for Atlanta, you have both.
00:30:29
They're gonna play.
00:30:30
But Ridley dealing with injuries.
00:30:32
Julio Jones dealing with injuries and not unlike the Patriot game, where he said, I think this one's gonna be more competitive, just plus 5.5.
00:30:38
But you are looking at a situation where Atlanta's gonna have to through girly and then maybe even the young player Hill.
00:30:43
They're gonna have to try to control this game when they're on offense, and that's difficult for a team that is a launch it and go.
00:30:50
You know they want to bomb it out and they have to try to play out of character now, to get a win against a team like Green Bay, that's gonna be very difficult.
00:30:58
You look at both these games, you got the Patriots in Atlanta both the underdogs in these games and they both want to run and control the clock in orderto win these games and um, it's gonna be difficult It's good.
00:31:12
This is more difficult with Atlanta and they've got girly on their team, and I think it's a it's a It's a much steeper climb for them than it is going to be for the Patriots, in my opinion.
00:31:24
And man, you know that Matty Ice wants to throw the football, you know, readily and and and Jones want, want, want the ball, they always want the ball.
00:31:36
And I think that Davante Adams not playing this game if you know being questionable is getting overblown a little bit.
00:31:43
Because Davante Adams didn't play last week and Aaron Rodgers had 283 passing yards and three passing touchdowns had a 1 24.
00:31:50
9 passer rating.
00:31:52
You lose Lazard as well, so if it was both of them, But again, you go back to last year, man, this is why coming to this season, it was so strange that everyone seemed to be, you know, kind of digging the grave for Aaron Rodgers.
00:32:05
He did this last year when Davante Adams was out where he said, Okay, how do I got scant Ling? Okay, Whatever.
00:32:10
You know, whoever it is, go ahead.
00:32:11
Come on, like, let's roll like that's the impact of a quarterback like Aaron Rodgers on a roster.
00:32:15
It doesn't matter if you've been on this roster for a few years, you know how to run your routes.
00:32:19
You know how to be in the right spot.
00:32:20
Aaron Rodgers will find you and again against Atlanta's defense against that secondary.
00:32:25
It also doesn't require you to be perfect.
00:32:28
You just have to be on point for what, three out of seven plays here and there, and you're still gonna get yourself that leap.
00:32:34
And I threw a tweet out last week to we've seen something out of Aaron Rodgers that we haven't I don't think ever seen.
00:32:40
His tight ends had nine catches last week.
00:32:43
Aaron Rodgers has been throat a tight ends.
00:32:45
He throws the wide receivers.
00:32:46
So the fact that to me his game has evolved even more, he's like, Okay, I'm not going to force it to receivers.
00:32:53
If I got, I will throw to my running back.
00:32:56
I think there was like three tight ends and four running backs that caught passes last week.
00:33:00
That's a very unerring Rogers like you.
00:33:03
No offense and also his evolution in a new offensive system under new head coach.
00:33:08
Right.
00:33:09
So you're seeing that growth here in year number two as well.
00:33:11
Listen, boys, we did it.
00:33:12
We've crested over the 30 minute mark.
00:33:14
Let's get out the door on the predictions.
00:33:16
56 a half is the over under in this game.
00:33:19
Plus 5.5 for the Falcons.
00:33:21
Ray, you get the honors to kick it off.
00:33:23
Where you going? What's your score? Well, I mean, if if Lawrence is saying 56 a half or 35 at the half, I have to take the over on.
00:33:34
Uh, yeah, I've got the I'll leave 5.
00:33:36
5 on the Packers.
00:33:38
No worries for you, Laurence.
00:33:41
Yeah.
00:33:42
Yeah, I would.
00:33:43
I legitimately Don't be surprised if the packers cover the over by themselves.
00:33:50
A good lord, You know what? And not for nothing.
00:33:53
Especially even in that game.
00:33:54
You could say you're in the fifties and you're still getting up 24 to 30 points or something.
00:33:58
Just a good old fashioned bomb fest will just be beautiful to watch from an entertainment standpoint, like what I think is the same thing.
00:34:04
Listen, I do think that Atlanta as bad as they are defensively, they're talented enough in Green Bay isn't quite yet there.
00:34:10
You wanna look ahead? The matchup against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers becomes a nice barometer game for the Green Bay Packers because they have a solid defense.
00:34:20
Now you start to match things up and see how your defense looks against Tom Brady, who's still doing it down there in Florida.
00:34:25
So that'll be fun.
00:34:26
Want to look ahead? Thio? Yeah, I'll take the over here pretty easy.
00:34:28
I'll lay the points and take Green Bay.
00:34:30
It feels like the easy answer.
00:34:32
And going into week number five, we could be talking about multiple coaches that have been let go and franchises in a bit of a pivotal spot.
00:34:39
Atlanta Maybe even worse off because you've got Matt Ryan on the back end of his career here.
00:34:43
You know you don't know where you go next from this, and when you have is bad of defense, is they do.
00:34:48
Who's throwing the ball to Ridley, whose throat I mean? Listen, Julio Jones, back in two.
00:34:52
But you have weapons there now.
00:34:53
It's about who are you gonna put under center in the next couple of seasons to start to try to rebuild their as well.
00:34:59
Seven o'clock kickoff for the early game, uh, pushed back to 8.
00:35:03
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00:35:12
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00:35:15
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