and with SportsCastr knew all things N b a and a Monday morning with myself out of Margaret and, of course, Keith McPherson back in the Brooklyn vibes over there.
Beautiful way coming, obviously, after Game three in the N B.
A Finals, where from the first two games, I think the assumption was, man.
All right, let's go ahead and size up fingers friends.
You have bam out of bio goes out, you have drag.
It goes out with the plantar fascia, which I broke down in great detail from that Brooks what that exactly was in terms of the injury last time I educated to him, and then Brooks did not appreciate it, because that is not a pleasant we go through.
But when came into this week, the Week three we came to this game, three men there couldn't have been the anticipation of anything, maybe potentially, like a lay down from Miami in some ways, because that's what you would expect.
But you do have Jimmy Butler, and he's not a guy that seems to understand the concept of being beaten at any point.
What was just your initial take, man? Did you think that Jimmy not in general terms, but in this serious specifically against this matchup was gonna be capable of taking over a game in that way.
Yeah, Jimmy is their star.
Jimmy is their leader.
If you had to pick one guy Thio, you know, be the face of the franchise to be that guy, the most well known guy.
None of these guys have been to the Finals before, but the guy with the most postseason experience, it's Jimmy and everybody's looking at Jimmy.
Well, he's not even healthy.
He's healthy enough, Um, toe lead the way.
And after you saw Udonis Haslem on the bench, you know, imploring these guys pleading with these guys, trying to fire these guys up.
It looked like he was the most concerned person.
And he doesn't step on the court, even saw a D.
Wade piggyback on that and say, Hey, the most frustrated guy, the most passionate guy can't be the guy in street clothes on.
I think something happened, and I think that's part of this bubble, right, because if these guys got to go home to their wives, their kids, their families, their girlfriends, whatever and forget about things over the weekend and kind of just, you know, forget about what happened.
They can't they can't get away from it.
It's basketball all the time.
They're in the bubble there, the last two teams in the bubble.
And they have probably some real hard talks or had some real hard talks after the first two losses to say, Hey, we came all this way.
Do we want to just go home and get swept? Or do we want to challenge? Because everybody knows you can't go down? Three? Oh, we know, Yeah, we've seen some 31 leads blown, but that was a game that had to happen last night.
I think the MBA wanted that to happen.
I think the fans wanted that to happen.
I said Lakers in five, maybe six, because I think the Lakers, they're still gonna gentlemen sweep.
But we had to see that happen tonight or last night, and it and it took Jimmy to be activated as Jimmy Buckets.
It took 40 from Jimmy.
It took a triple double from Jimmy and then other guys obviously playing their role as well.
So yeah, I'm now interested.
I'm now I'm interested to see how LeBron an a d respond Because we will not see what we saw last night from them to again.
Well, and so, yes, there is two sides of it, right? On the one hand, you know that Jimmy Butler is capable of that.
But now you expect that l A is gonna really hone in on that and say, Okay, now we'll take away Now, we'll try to take away quote unquote Jimmy Butler from you.
And let's see if the other guys, they're gonna be able to step up in a Game four on the flip side of it, cause there's a lot of things I thought that Spoelstra did well here.
Uh, you know, Leonard starts the game, only plays 13 minutes, but symbolically starts bigger.
Matt Brooks and I talked about it last week about maybe you just got to size up a little bit.
And then you think about a player for for the Miami Heat as well.
And Kelly Olynyk listen.
31 minutes gave you 17 points, seven rebounds, two steals, and then the big one.
For me, that was the four personal fouls, and not in the sense of oh got into foul trouble more in the sense of Yeah, you gotta, you know, listen when they when they tried to throw that alley oop to LeBron James.
Yeah, lean back and get your shoulder into his chest and throw him off his rhythm.
Just send Cem proverbial messages without being anything dirty.
But you need a couple of bigger bodies just to be physical.
With LeBron James, physical with and Anthony Davis when we flip over, though, away from that fairly balanced approach from the Miami Heat on the other side of it, it's interesting that you get 19 points from Morris off the bench.
You get 19 points from Kuzma off the bench on identical six of 13 shooting nights for those players individually, yet cut, too.
Anthony Davis and I.
I was singing his praises after the first two games, and it's nothing that I'm going to back away from, but it's difficult when you see a player like that of his caliber and his skill set six of nine gets into foul trouble.
Relatively quiet night, 15 points and you know, even when you're in foul trouble, even when you're not necessarily taking over games offensively, just five rebounds.
There's a stat line here that again.
You look at LeBron James.
You just You can't do this.
You can't have that game in the finals.
Even even in a loss.
You just can't walk away with that stat line because it just begs for people to go.
I mean, this is what you're missing.
He went missing.
And you know what? It's gonna dio the people that want to say LeBron James is the finals M v p.
They have that game to look at and say, Well, where was a d? LeBron put up 25 10 rebounds, eight assists.
He almost had a triple double in that loss.
But where was a D? Now, I think like because I saw.
I mean, I read MBA Twitter pretty deeply, and a lot of people are talking about Oh, who's gonna be the finals? M v p.
Kind of jumping ahead.
Assuming that the Lakers were gonna win, it probably went in four, and they would have to pick an M v p.
And it was pretty neck and neck with 80 and LeBron.
Until that loss, LeBron still did what he had to do in that loss.
Uh, when you talked about Olynyk and you talked about the size with with Leonard Leonard barely played.
But, like, they have to switch up for that look and those points in the paint, they can't get bullied like that.
And like you call that with those four fouls, O'lenic is down there getting scrappy.
He's down there being physical.
They need that presence just toe, deny a d a little bit.
And LeBron and whoever else tries to go in there Dwight Howard and make them kick it out to Danny Greene.
Who's not gonna hit anything? Uh huh.
Yeah, you know what? That's That's the other thing that I was looking at.
Two from the starting line to the bench.
You highlight Morrison, Kuzma and you like boy big performances.
Why did this fall off? We'll go back to the first two games.
You know Danny Green just two points on O of six shooting.
How about KCP? Just giving you a one of five performance like this is the issue again.
Doesn't change the fact that you say five games, maybe six now, because of this win here for the heat still think the Lakers, they're gonna take it.
That be the expectation.
But when you are Anthony Davis and LeBron James and everybody else on that roster on a game to game basis, even though the numbers Hey, we still got production off the bench in Morrison, Kuzma.
But it's an imbalanced production level, right? So now these minutes from Danny Green look a little bit worse because they're giving you nothing in 17 Caldwell, both 29 minutes e.
That's a lot of minutes to be on a That's a lot.
That's a lot of minutes to be on the floor to get that little production.
And I do think it throws off the rhythm of a team just knowing what you're getting from certain players on a game to game basis and on a minute share.
And you can even go into Dwight Howard and talk about a guy that gave you 15 minutes and three rebounds like hey, that's not gonna cut it either.
So that is the difference.
I think when you are top heavy with superstars like they have versus the Miami Heat, where again go into their starting lineup, you got Robinson Onley for 12 so not great in 39 minutes with 13 points, 17 points from Hero uh, you know Jamison Crowder again? Inconsistent.
A little bit there, too, but 5 to 12 and 12 points.
They need to get a little bit more, probably out of the bench there, even though you don't have a ton.
Iguodala gave you 17.
I'll call them quality minutes on one end of the floor in spite of Ah, minus 13 plus minus four.
Um, but a team that doesn't have true superstars, even if Jimmy Butler it can be a superstar on certain certain games.
When you don't have a true superstar, it is a collective effort.
Everyone kind of knows that your role has to be elevated.
I'll double down on the fact to if you could get bam out of bio back in this next game, All of a sudden, things can get interesting in this one.
Now you're gonna need him toe have it's gonna need to be really borderline superstar performance from Jimmy Butler and then Bam! Auto Bio has to find a way against all bigger matchups, whether it's a d McGee Howard, he's going toe on Lee, get bodies ahead of them.
But now that you've seen Kelly Olynyk, now that you've seen Leonard as well, if you get banned back and you use those other players to, I think it looks like Spoelstra saying and you wonder if it's an absence of band and absence of drugs that you make this choice.
But it looks like explosive saying yes, we're going to need to size up in order just to be body the body here and then hope that our key shooters in Hero and in Butler etcetera can carry the load for us offensively because we're gonna lose something with O'LENIC.
And with Leonard on the floor, yeah, shout out Thio Spoelstra, Erik Spoelstra.
He basically came out and said, We don't care what people are saying and now he's coaching these guys and they're strategizing.
They're figuring that figuring it out and like I said, this was a game that had to happen.
It's setting up for Bam's Returned.
Bam was on the court last night.
He was warming up, so I'm guessing he's just like a couple days of rehab away from stepping back in.
And that could change the whole Siri's when we're talking about dynamic duos.
They're basically throwing LeBron and a D in the conversation with Shaq and Kobe.
I heard a lot of that over the weekend to I'm like, yeah, what's that way? Step back on that for a second here.
Like I saw that too.
And I was like, Whoa, listen, are they both quality players off that level? Yes, they didn't win anything yet.
You're talking about you're talking about? They had a dynasty there for a minute in L.
With those two players and they already like Maybe that's maybe that's what these guys are as they lose Game three and again, maybe they two seasons from now we could be talking about that way.
But man like, you wanna go ahead, Stop that.
Stop that high train, man.
They're they're miles away from that.
You were out there, but I look at it is like you can't put them in Shaq and Kobe conversation until they finish this thing.
Why are you putting up in that conversation after Game two and then a D comes out here and put up 15 points and doesn't doesn't have that beast night on the boards with five like shock isn't doing that if he is supposed to be shocking.
LeBron is supposed to be Kobe, but that's a whole other thing.
Going to the Heat duo with Bam and with Jimmy.
Right? And Jimmy was getting points in the paint.
He was in his bag assed faras his his footwork and his mid range jumpers and taking what they gave him.
I love that because I think that's gonna That's gonna shift a little bit to a two man game when Bam comes back and we're we are going to see another guy with size, but with a little bit more athleticism.
Come in there and play and also play with the sense of urgency.
I felt like the Lakers didn't have a sense of urgency last night.
Like even when it was closed, I felt like they were just out there chilling hooping.
Meanwhile, the Heat you could tell like their life was on the line, and that's gonna that's what that's what's gonna be the difference.
It's gonna be about who really wants it.
And the Lakers are probably going to do some soul searching after the way they exited the court last night, I guess they thought it was sweet.
I guess they thought it was just Well, we're gonna come walk out here on Sunday night and go 30 no.
Now you're in a Siri's where if you lose the next game, the Siri's is even, and it's like starting a fresh, new Siri's that now these teams have enough intel and information on each other on the court.
It's one thing to be looking from afar.
It's another thing to be on the court and see how you match up.
Now we've seen three different games of okay, what to do and not do.
It's gonna come down to coaching, and it's gonna come down to who wants it more.
I still believe that LeBron wants is more than anyone and that he's going to enforce his will.
Uh, but now it's more interesting.
Now it's an entertaining Siri's.
Now it is in all Lakers in four, or even the gentleman sweet.
We'll see what happens in Game four, but this makes Game four a much more intriguing game to watch, and I think it's on what Tuesday night like there's not gonna be will there be baseball on, but there's not gonna be any NFL on like last night.
They had to compete with, you know, Sunday Night Football.
And you know, the end of the football games Tuesday, they'll pretty much have the floor.
Uh, the Yankees will be on the N L D S L.
D s will be on, but the ratings for baseball haven't been great.
So there should be game for everybody watching.
And we'll see what happens when they have banned back one of their superstars, if not their their top superstar.
The funny thing, too, is because you talk about about going through the motions and again go back into LeBron stat line like this is a guy that they gets it, you know, been in the finals, been in deep playoff runs, understand them, and you have a chance to really put a team away.
30 then in game number four, maybe you see it.
I mean, the heat have shown nothing but heart and hustle, so you wouldn't think they ever give in.
But when you're down 03 you know that it's all but over.
So he comes out and shows that you're going some of the ancillary pieces, especially a guy like that.
I think you know Green just a different point of his career.
He's not expected to do that.
But a guy like Dwight Howard, right? I guess.
What? Dwight, you're still just a dude riding coattails right now and you've had some big games. And this.
This really will change what your legacy looks like when you finally retire.
If you get a ring here and maybe come back next year and get a second ring because you are a Hall of Fame player in spite of your many stops the last couple of years, But when you show up small like that, it does, he said.
Like what does go after? These guys will probably roll over a little bit here for us and then they don't.
And you, you can't just fire yourself back into that rhythm.
So you look at some of those guys and say, and I'd be curious if there What if there's any locker room conversations that you come out of our going into Game four about what LeBron may be communicated to a handful of guys in the locker room following that game.
The other thing that I, you know, big picture here.
Remember the start of this one? He were up early again in this up.
10 up, 12 at one point.
And when the first quarter closed out and it was 26 23 Miami, it really had all the feelings have been like, Boy, you had a nice little lead, their little cushion, and they really shrunk it on you.
You gotta leave the first quarter with a 7 to 10 point lead to feel like it's representative of how well you played there.
Then they still did it. They went toe to toe with them offensively.
The difficult thing.
One every single quarter along the way.
The difficult thing for me is not.
This isn't a nit pick thing.
All this that's really line up. Fairly.
Even 79 shots to 80.
Both teams shot.
Now Miami shot 51% from the field to 43 for L.
From deep 14 or 42 versus 12 34.
Narrowly close there, unfortunately, and it doesn't make it LeBron's fault.
Here he goes 9 to 16 at the line and so he still has a great game, but they knock down 76% 22 or 29.
Miami gets to the stripe primarily through Jimmy Butler, but 12 of 14.
You know there's a difference there because LeBron has not been historically a fantastic free throw shooter.
He's actually known to miss some of the more crucial ones.
It'll go one for too late in games.
Jimmy Bullet doesn't do that.
He knocks down all those with consistency.
So when you talk about the guys for each side, that can really take over the games.
That that that plays a pretty big factor in this one.
When you talk about leaving potentially seven points on the you know on the floor there, when you lose a game by 11 that could get you down to one or two possession game all the way down to the wire throughout this one.
So I look at it more is not on LeBron, but it's a referendum again on Anthony Davis.
Even if you're in foul trouble.
Even if you're having an off night, go ahead and get yourself to the line.
Anthony Davis went to the line twice.
You can't be on the floor as Anthony Davis for 33 minutes and get to the line twice.
You could have come out of this game with the foul trouble with a bad shooting and you someone 69 by the way.
So 15 points you could have all you had to do was get to the line seven or eight times.
You have 20 plus points and you go listen in an off night for him where he got into foul trouble.
He still put the pressure on the defense.
Still got to the line, still knock down his shots.
So again, in this one game sample size, pretty small performance from a d.
When you have LeBron doing everything, just go and get to the line for me and it down his free throws and we'll be OK.
Yeah, a d c. That's what I'm saying.
You can't compare a D to shock like go buy some bully ball, get tough in there, go in there like Okay, yeah, they're playing you tough in there.
Still go challenge and they'll foul and you'll get Get your points from the line.
Um, you know, I like I like what I saw from the bench for the Lakers.
The Lakers bench had outscored the Heat bench for the most part, but it wasn't about that.
It was like even when it got close, like the Heat weren't backing down, the Lakers weren't running away with it.
They were making it closer, making some tough shot.
But the heat kind of, you know, stood tall.
I'm really intrigued.
I really think that this next game is gonna be the game that will decide the Siri's.
Because if if the Heat can even it and then they go to a three game Siri's like I don't know, I just think it changes it a little bit.
But I think LeBron is gonna They're gonna figure it out.
They're going to step up and you'll see guys on that team change their approach a little bit.
But this needed to happen because let's look at the TV, right? So if it's Tuesday for Game four Thursday for Game five, Game six would be Saturday and then get like they want to get those games.
The MBA wants to get the most money out of it.
Uh, everybody loves the Game seven.
They'd love to see the single Game seven.
I feel like the Lakers having LeBron and a d.
It should not go seven games, but you don't know.
This could be the game Thio to really change things around.
I mean, well, far out his drugs.
I think drug is his injury.
Well, that's what I'm talking about.
Brophy, Go the planter fashion.
I was like, I was like, It's just like the thread that runs down your foot and just caring that I was like, you know, like, I just I don't know how you find your way back to the floor food.
I guess there's potential that he could, but I just I just don't see it.
And and out of the two, if you could get banned back, that's that's the bigger impact player because you could replace shooting.
You could replace what drag it is doing for you.
Um, so it will be.
And by the way, if you do, you buy by chance, get to to to, you know, this is this is really a zero pressure for the Miami Heat.
To your point, you wanna play with pride? You wanna put the effort, you're in the bubble You've gotten here Let's try to make this thing a Siri's.
If you get to to, to you connects, then you'll even heighten the look at Anthony Davis and go, Let's see if you get tight.
Let's see if these guys get a little bit tight because the expectations or championships for it was championships for you out in L. A.
So all of a sudden, Miami man, you're gonna go to the offseason, tweak your roster, come back and firing all cylinders next year.
You already did it.
Making it to the finals for Miami.
That's the That was more than the accomplishment for them this season.
So it'll be interesting to see if you got to to to what it would look like for the Lakers and what LeBron would start to look like.
Um, let's go ahead and close out on this, though.
Extra love for Jimmy Butler, who, by the way, in that triple Double 13 assists so finding his teammates, getting everybody involved here, do it around the N B A man you got, uh, indeed, by the way and beat you said inspiring on Twitter may wanna feel free and be to get inspired by Jimmy Butler.
Feel free to take some of that inspiration into the season.
You should be in the N B A.
Finals right now.
Instead, you're gonna be like, boy, that is some inspiring basketball that I'm watching from my couch.
Uh, you got Isaiah talking about the Eagles because I'm like, you shouldn't be talking about this game.
Eagles were inspiring you because you could have got here, bro.
You were shot away from getting here last year, but too good.
You got Isaiah Thomas Heat me great adjustments.
And then Jimmy Butler have been hooping from the start.
You got C J. McCollum.
**** Jimmy really like that? I thought for sure a sweep was coming, bro.
Really went toe work, work like you're getting.
And then you are man from Brooklyn.
Spencer did with Jimmy Butler finals M v P Jerry West style.
So, listen, I mean, that's also the nice thing about this is like if you're just NBA players, my fans were watching this thing you can see from NBA players to like, you know what? The inside? What guys are looking at, they go.
Hey, good for the Lakers.
They got their championship, then they see this game go off and they see Jimmy Butler go off.
I won't be surprised.
I think that Miami is already a very attractive destination in general, in the n. B. A.
It's a great location.
Very well run organization.
One of the best coaches in Spoelstra.
You know, you got Pat Riley in the front office, This type of performance from Jimmy Butler and this team free agents.
My, you know, you're talking about prime destination.
They may have their pick in the off season about who they want to bring in, because it's not gonna be a hard sell for anybody that you want to say. Look what we accomplished.
Come join this roster, come help us get that next step.
And Jimmy Butler is making a great case for it.
Yeah, and I mean, the complexion of the East is going to change when the Brooklyn Nets step out there.
I also thought it was great that Kyrie was in the news this week taking a shot at LeBron said he didn't mean LeBron.
But then, you know, you see LeBron go out in this game and miss a bunch of free throws and lose the game.
But either way, yeah, all the love and risk fact that you see from Jimmy's piers on Twitter they don't have Thio put their name next.
Any tweets like that, that's Rhys's just respect.
Like, how can we give it up to this guy for putting together one of the best performances in finals history? Like as a one man like stat line goes and what he had to do for his team to not go down? 03 Jimmy Butler put on a class classic performance which, whether they win or even if they force it toe seven games, people are gonna remember what Jimmy Jimmy Buckets did like.
That is Jimmy buckets.
That's where the nickname comes from.
He was literally taking everything they gave him on.
When I said he was in his bag, you could tell he was he was hitting all those shots that he's practice.
Okay, you're gonna guard me to the left.
I'm gonna step here.
I'm gonna go, right.
I'm gonna raise up like he had all of that down, so let's see it.
Uh, I'm now like I was looking at this.
Siri's like, all right.
Uh, you know MBA is gonna be over this week, maybe.
Maybe they forced it to seven and we get that extra entertainment.
Those those last two games games.
Game seven It It's a different looking Siri's now, especially with with Bam's return lurking over the Lakers.
But I really still do believe like LeBron James is this close to getting that four chip? It's bigger, right? And like you said, the the heat have already done it.
They've already gotten to the finals.
They are already, um, attractive destination for anybody they're gonna be around for.
Uh, I don't know.
I don't want to say too long, but they're gonna be around for some years with this team as currently constructed and whoever else they can add to it.
Um, I don't know.
The MBA is the MBA is entertaining.
It's in a good spot.
I'm more than continue what I've seen.
Auto bio hero, you know, nice young pieces there for them, and they can rotate the cast around them.
E listen, even in even even a Leonard, like even a Leonard offers value to a roster like that.
It's just about the pieces in terms of Jimmy Butler's and like that, you have leading this team in the years ahead.
We get out of here on this.
14 of 2003 point attempts for Jimmy Butler did all this from inside the arc.
12 of 14 at the line.
10 defensive rebounds.
13 assists, two steals, two blocks plus 20 and 40 point performance for Jimmy Butler, as you say will go down as one of the greatest finals performances by the by the excuse me by the Miami Heat and by an individual player like Jimmy Butler.
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