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00:00:16
Welcome back to go to reasonable doubt.
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Hearing here live. Welcome.
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If you're watching a replay, welcome is well, uh, as always, You know, the rules.
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If you have any questions throwing in the chat if you're alive.
00:00:29
If found, replay tweet at either of us at Seymour sister at C.
00:00:34
Underscore more. Six for Chris.
00:00:36
Travel in two for me.
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Um, I'm not gonna talk too much to start.
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I will just hand it over to Chris as the as the twins fan here.
00:00:44
Chris, I know you have something.
00:00:46
You want to get off your chest, Go ahead.
00:00:52
Yeah, I just want to start just another disgrace, man.
00:00:55
I'm telling you, just utter disgrace.
00:00:57
Like being Minnesota fan is so tough.
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Like I'm born and raised in ST Paul, Minnesota.
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Guys don't know lived there for 12 years.
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Living Hotels Council right now is just right across the river is about 15 miles away.
00:01:08
So still local here in the area, rooting for my local teams and be Minnesota fans just so, so tough.
00:01:17
Just go.
00:01:18
In the past year, we have the Minnesota go for football.
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We thought this was the year they had a great start undefeated a while.
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And then he had the debacle against the Badgers.
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Like I was at that game like I was freezing cold like it was blistery conditions.
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Crazy snow.
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I paid, like $2 and my homies silly to go to that game.
00:01:37
And then what? Then you have the Vikings like Look at them now they're all and three.
00:01:44
They lost business kicker like a kicker.
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Beat them.
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I've never seen NFL game where a kicker beat the team, but that's what happened.
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66 field goals.
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That's unreadable.
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Any of both.
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Double, cook and feel had over 185 yards each, and they still lost like that's just on now.
00:02:02
You got a covert outbreak in between the facility's closed all week, so it's just unbelievable.
00:02:07
Then you have the Wolves.
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There are disgraced all year long.
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They got a number one pick, and it's like the worst draft class ever, so it doesn't even mean anything.
00:02:18
I mean, you got the wild even like I'm not the biggest hockey fan, but I watched I got root for the while local team.
00:02:25
During the first round of playoffs, Game five, they were playing his Vancouver Waas And when? Overtime.
00:02:31
Seven seconds into overtime, they lost in the goal.
00:02:34
Seven seconds in overtime.
00:02:37
A season over.
00:02:40
And now at the Twins.
00:02:42
The Twins today? Yeah, there they were a wonder of holding it down most.
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The game that they played solid, it was okay, we're doing okay.
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And then the ninth inning came.
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Let the actual scored three runs in the ninth inning.
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The Astros and we're the division champions.
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I mean, we better get this together.
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I'm just saying all this right now because I'm begging the twins to get it together for me.
00:03:10
Minnesota native for me, Just unbelievable.
00:03:15
The Twins please get together and make a run for me.
00:03:19
Last we wanted championship with anything.
00:03:22
1991 for the Clinton.
00:03:23
So just please, for me, that's all you have to say.
00:03:28
It's all Yeah.
00:03:30
You know, as a Wisconsin fan, we may have more success over the grand scheme of things, but we also know how to disappoint fans in the great state of Wisconsin.
00:03:38
So, um, I know how you feel to a certain extent.
00:03:42
Um, even Minnesota Lynx, bro.
00:03:44
They got balance in the second round playoff.
00:03:46
They can't get anything All right.
00:03:48
Well, you know what? Just e.
00:03:50
I'll tell you what, We'll go to another one of your team's Azzawi as well as you predicted Saturday.
00:03:57
The Lakers won Game five over the Nuggets.
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Uh, they have advanced to the NBA Finals.
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They will meet the Miami Heat.
00:04:07
Um, who is your pick for this year's? I mean, I already know what the pick is.
00:04:13
Um, it's obviously a boy, LeBron and the Lakers.
00:04:16
But I guess what I'm really asking is, what is the rationale? And what are the chances that the Lakers won this? Because I feel like we might have different opinions on this one.
00:04:28
Yeah, so I got the Lakers.
00:04:30
I mean, obviously, I'm LeBron fan always grew from, but honestly, just talking like, um, as an ****yst, just looking at both teams.
00:04:38
Honestly, that's the Lakers is clearly the Lakers.
00:04:41
You have to the top five players in the league right now.
00:04:44
LeBron Anthony Davis Last Lakers beat them both times in a season, and anti Davis, like you completely destroyed the heat lasted.
00:04:52
He played.
00:04:54
So I just think like they have no answers for, like Anthony Davis, like even with bam like I know like he's a solid defender, but he's just he's still in experience, like 80 has more of the experience.
00:05:06
He's a smarter player, and I think like the way he plays on the outside, he'll bring Bam outside more.
00:05:11
And I'm driving even easier for LeBron.
00:05:13
So because 80 shoots mid range, shoots the three.
00:05:15
So we pulled out the lane and then I'll make it even easier for LeBron and run on, making some plays and driving and kick out the shooters.
00:05:23
So I just think it's gonna be easy.
00:05:25
And then at the end of the day, the Heat they don't have with that star player to go to, because Jimmy Butler hasn't really proved it like he's been like there for flashes but hasn't been a consistently.
00:05:33
That's like in class moment really need a bucket.
00:05:35
So that's why I got the Lakers, and I think I'll be if 80 is top five.
00:05:41
Who is your top five right now? Yeah, because we might have a problem with before we even get into the Siri's.
00:05:50
Okay, well, here's the thing.
00:05:51
So, like Katie and stuff, they're not playing this here.
00:05:53
So, like they don't account so you can count them because they're not playing.
00:05:56
I'm starting to leak this season, so you can't account those two.
00:06:00
So I got Brown one, Number two output.
00:06:06
I gotta go to quiet, like, probably.
00:06:08
Why? Even though he did debacle, but overall, like, e gotta go quiet.
00:06:14
Okay.
00:06:15
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know.
00:06:16
Don't give me that look. It's gotta be quiet.
00:06:18
But then I had to go.
00:06:19
Probably honest.
00:06:20
I guess that you got the stats and yeah, you got to go with him three.
00:06:26
Or I'll put 84.
00:06:29
Okay, I put 84 then five.
00:06:33
Based on this season, I gotta You gotta beluga in there like you got to like he had a remark.
00:06:39
You put up a fight against a against the Clippers this postseason, basically average double double.
00:06:46
So you gotta polluting our conversation.
00:06:48
Like I know he's only 21.
00:06:49
But do you happen that conversation? Uh oh.
00:06:54
I had another star on his team and accordingly, Apparently, the best mention MBA, um, couldn't do anything with it.
00:07:02
Also, number one, M v p.
00:07:04
And a final or defense played here in the same year.
00:07:07
And also, I don't think has even ever won an M v p but somehow is above the honest but beside the point.
00:07:13
Um, Miami's gonna win this series.
00:07:15
Miami is gonna win the Siri's.
00:07:17
Here's why Lakers play the Blazers.
00:07:19
They showed weakness first.
00:07:20
Good shooting guards.
00:07:21
Miami does not have Lillard.
00:07:23
They do not have McCollum.
00:07:25
Um, but they still took him five.
00:07:29
Portland has no good small forward power forward, um, questionable bigs at best, but they still showed some weakness.
00:07:35
Is the Lakers in three point shooting go to Houston again showed their week two of the three.
00:07:39
Um, if the Houston's had if Houston had any big zit all, they might stand a chance but again showed their ineptitude.
00:07:48
Being able to beat teams that can shoot the three well and against Denver, Let's not forget.
00:07:52
Denver played former games while more emotional.
00:07:55
I'm outside of Yokich.
00:07:56
They don't have any great big.
00:07:57
They don't have a great guards outside of Murray.
00:07:59
Um, you know, they wanted five, you know, Probably helped that they had 24 free throws in the second quarter of game one.
00:08:07
Um, Jamal Murray and Yoke, which found themselves with five fouls the whole game.
00:08:12
35 to 23 total free throws.
00:08:15
Ah, you know, in one of the game's Etienne, LeBron had 24 free throws made Walt number 23 attempts.
00:08:22
Um, and I'm just concerned about the slave.
00:08:25
First three games brought only a 10 free throw attempts.
00:08:28
You remember that you only attend for three games you got.
00:08:31
Remember that, but But it's it's all equal, You know, when you make more another team attempts.
00:08:36
Either the refs are bad because he complained or or you're really Then through four games, both team out of free throw attempts through four games in both the 130.
00:08:45
So let's look at the Lakers.
00:08:47
Game three shot, 64% in line game 1 73% in the line a D at a at a fantastic game winner in Game two.
00:08:55
No, we're not gonna argue about that.
00:08:57
We both know that is one heck of a shot.
00:08:59
That is one heck of a play.
00:09:01
Um, people seem to forget.
00:09:03
Without that, Denver would have found themselves up to one in this series.
00:09:07
That is a completely different Siri's, um, and you know, just because, you know, I know everybody's gonna complain about LeBron James foul calls.
00:09:15
Um, in his first nine seasons, 609 games, he has followed out three times 1.
00:09:21
5 fouls per game.
00:09:22
So if he complains about foul calls, which maybe look in the mirror.
00:09:25
But look, they eat has played better teams.
00:09:28
They're good three point shooting team.
00:09:31
Jimmy Butler doesn't have to be a star because they have somebody get pieces.
00:09:34
Um, I just see Miami one in the Siri's.
00:09:37
I don't see the Lakers win, and I don't think they're deep enough.
00:09:41
Well, you know, they're deep in okay.
00:09:44
My My biggest question is, who are the heat played in the playoffs? Well, uh, they played India.
00:09:50
India is not good.
00:09:51
I'm not gonna tell you India is a good team.
00:09:53
Um, but I got a injury.
00:09:56
A hey, T J.
00:09:58
Warren was red hot.
00:09:59
He was one of them VP picks, but yeah, they played, uh, they Hey.
00:10:06
Okay, Fox team that did not hit what they should have.
00:10:12
Um you could blame that on bud.
00:10:14
Um, a lot.
00:10:15
Obviously.
00:10:16
Where the blame lies exactly.
00:10:17
We don't know.
00:10:19
Still be a good box team.
00:10:21
Still a muscle them.
00:10:22
And then they beat Boston.
00:10:23
Who has 33 stars on that team.
00:10:28
Yeah, but zero bench at all, whatsoever.
00:10:30
And no bigs.
00:10:33
Yeah, true, But they just patched him easily.
00:10:36
I mean that that's what you expect from them.
00:10:37
You know, the Bucks had Big Brooke second team, all defense.
00:10:41
They have. Well, they had a bench.
00:10:43
The bench did not show up.
00:10:45
How much of that is Miami's defense or not? But, I mean, look, they sweeped Indianapolis easily.
00:10:50
They manhandled Milwaukee for the one.
00:10:52
They defended the threes beautifully.
00:10:54
Um, Boston.
00:10:55
They are more scores than than l A.
00:10:58
Don't get me wrong.
00:10:59
LeBron and 80 are better than everybody on the Celtics.
00:11:04
But I will always take four scores and complicate, um, Brown and Hayward over just a Brown and Aid, because when those guys on the bench, the Celtics and road table when those guys on the bench, I don't know.
00:11:16
And they wanted six in the series where they had very uncharacteristic shooting, which led to one of their losses very close.
00:11:24
Yeah, well, stay based on the Game five, like I love Danny Green's like defensive energy like he's really flying out there a defense Last game, Game five.
00:11:32
He's really flying out there.
00:11:33
I guess He hit some threes, but he's been so inconsistent, like he can hit threes in the Siri's like it's a wrap.
00:11:38
And then, like I think, Rondo, he's been playoff Rondo.
00:11:41
He's playing exceptionally.
00:11:43
He's playing 20 minutes every night.
00:11:44
Assists like, Do you know how crazy that is? Like nine assists in 20 minutes? That's just insane.
00:11:49
So Rondos and really make a lot of players out there flying out on defense and the Lakers defense in general just really elite.
00:11:55
So I think, like they will defend Miami very well, force them to tough shots.
00:12:01
I think because my doesn't have that one part of that kind of like be tough defense is like that one star player.
00:12:07
I just think that's three.
00:12:09
Is that like they can't get over the hump? I mean, I would just disagree because, you know, you look at what the Lakers around those great in passing cool.
00:12:18
What can you do to shoot nothing contagious? Caldwell.
00:12:23
Pope.
00:12:24
You can be good.
00:12:25
He He's not a guy you wanted.
00:12:29
He's a guy.
00:12:30
If he beats you in a seven game series.
00:12:32
If here's the reason you let him have it, you let him have it. Kuzma.
00:12:36
I mean, come on.
00:12:37
No.
00:12:38
Maybe later, but no.
00:12:40
A game winner earlier in a bubble game winner.
00:12:44
A game winner.
00:12:45
I need more than one shot for a guy.
00:12:48
You think they're shooter.
00:12:50
I just look at this team.
00:12:51
They got hero heroes, a bucket.
00:12:53
Neither of us will disagree with that.
00:12:54
Heroes? A A.
00:12:56
They got none.
00:12:58
They got Kendrick Nunn.
00:13:00
Okay, Kendrick? Nothing like he's not playing a lot.
00:13:02
Yeah, so, like apparently supposed to say he's out of shape.
00:13:05
So he's been playing a lot, has been kind of light suspect.
00:13:08
So, like, I don't know this to be a factor or not.
00:13:10
So like, that's kind of a real wild card because apparently really out of shape.
00:13:13
But I don't know, maybe I suppose you're playing the Siri's. I don't know.
00:13:16
So we'll see.
00:13:17
That's that's a big I don't know.
00:13:19
Even if he doesn't, this is just a grinding team.
00:13:23
You got Duncan Robinson.
00:13:24
Jae Crowder is playing well.
00:13:26
Nobody is talking about Goran Dragic.
00:13:28
Goran Dragic looks like a yeah, right now.
00:13:34
You're not Chris Paul Yeah, you forget what becomes, for a reason mean Jae Crowder is good at threes and defense.
00:13:42
This team just feels built.
00:13:45
Bam! He's gonna be the best defender and rebounder they faced.
00:13:50
Yokich is tall, but defensive Bonnie Wise, he's not the best.
00:13:54
Um, tragic is balling Crowder stepping up sports.
00:13:58
You can't rebound.
00:14:00
I never said he couldn't.
00:14:01
I just did comparatively yoga, just like you.
00:14:05
Honestly, that that was a big question mark with, like, 80 in the last season that he only averaged three rebounds a game.
00:14:10
So that was, like very suspect and Yoko just dominate on the board and get anybody get the act together.
00:14:16
That's how I get banned.
00:14:17
Anybody get better? Spoelstra's the best coach in the league.
00:14:22
This team is great chemistry, great defense.
00:14:24
We've seen Miami come up big all the time and I've seen 80 come up big once in Game two.
00:14:31
In that big shot, I've seen LeBron do the heavy lifting.
00:14:35
Um, with all that heavy lifting, as much as I love LeBron, as much as I've seen, if 80 doesn't pick up the pace, I can't trust LeBron to do all that and take the game over.
00:14:47
Um, I think LeBron is going to keep the team afloat, but 80 is the key to take him out.
00:14:51
Next up on winning, and I don't trust him.
00:14:54
He shoots 32% from three.
00:14:56
LeBron is not a lethal shooter from three, none of their guys off the bench.
00:15:01
Or that our role players can shoot the three.
00:15:02
They can't shoot free throws.
00:15:05
There's a great grinding Miami defense that plays good D and they're tough and they know what they're doing. They got confidence.
00:15:11
That's scary.
00:15:12
And I see Miami winning in six or seven.
00:15:16
I don't see a way the Lakers get out of it.
00:15:18
You don't have good free throw shooters with Dwight Howard, too.
00:15:21
I just don't see it.
00:15:25
Yeah, free throw shooting is probably the biggest differently.
00:15:27
It's by far, but I just think this year the team, the Lakers, they're very motivated because yeah, the tragic death of Kobe Bryant, like they're all very motivated to women for Kobe and stuff.
00:15:36
LeBron's very motivated because he wants to win a third and final to meet people a third different team first player ever do that, so they all have a kind of the internal drives.
00:15:44
It's not just like Miami grinding and wanted it more like, Let's really want this to just for like, Kobe and just his legacy is this name and stuff.
00:15:52
So you remember that, too.
00:15:53
That's That's a big, huge, like, emotional at the same time, Let me tell you, they got they got some.
00:15:59
They got some dogs in Miami hero butler.
00:16:04
Those guys, man, they their motivation is the other teams motivation and taking their spirit from.
00:16:13
Yeah, All I know is that I can't wait to just see, like, LeBron just, you know, Kobe, This is for you, man.
00:16:19
I'm, like, Shut some tears, bro.
00:16:21
Once they went and he's saying he's gonna be saying that might shed a tear Thio that in Game six, press conference when he lost a serious 4 to 2.
00:16:31
Well, he wanna lose it, but, you know, he could only do so much.
00:16:35
Is he going to say it when they lose four to Kobe this for you? Because that's I'm just telling you, man, are you saying heating six Without you saying heating six, I think maybe if 80 steps up for a game or two shows us.
00:16:52
He could do it over the course of the whole game.
00:16:54
Uh, against a really stiff competition that isn't tired, I think you go seven.
00:17:01
Um, I think it's heat.
00:17:04
I think it's the driver's seat.
00:17:06
Yeah, my pick is probably Lakers and five.
00:17:09
I just like the notion of 5555 all the way through that.
00:17:12
Just be a nice gentleman.
00:17:13
Sweep through the playoffs like I just a nice, like, good luck looks.
00:17:16
I like the 5555 So I'm going to Lakers.
00:17:19
You could do that to you.
00:17:20
Could do that too.
00:17:21
Um, but without further do we move on, you know which one should we touched on first? Let's go, Carson.
00:17:35
Once I want to say it My Green Bay Packers Fun to the show because I can't wait to talk about that.
00:17:41
Um, Doug Peterson.
00:17:44
I think what whence is the issue with this team? What do you think? I said it's definitely Doug Peterson.
00:17:51
Like I watched that last Eagles game like he made a lot of question.
00:17:55
Will play call, especially in overtime.
00:17:56
Like that was unacceptable.
00:17:58
Like they punted on the final drive.
00:18:00
You didn't let once get a chance to go for this touchdown.
00:18:02
He just wanted to go.
00:18:03
We're going for the tire of punting.
00:18:04
So, like you just lost complete trust in his quarterback.
00:18:07
There's the importance of once calling his own place in the line of scrimmage.
00:18:11
I mean, he didn't trust this coach at all.
00:18:13
So relations that fragmented you're paying $110 million to a quarterback.
00:18:18
You got to do with the coach like he's just not the answer, So I don't know what it is like.
00:18:22
I think part of it, honestly, it could be because they're so worried about getting one's hurt, because I think once his best, when he's active, Mobile like getting out of the pocket, using his legs a little bit, throwing on the run.
00:18:33
I think that's what he does best.
00:18:35
But the thing about the Eagles play calling is they're very conservative that since you kind of want him to stay in a traditional non mobile quarterback because they want to protect as much as possible.
00:18:44
They were injury. He is very injury prone.
00:18:46
You can't deny that at the same time.
00:18:48
Like I just think that once his best game and like the legal best chance to win is that they haven't like out there moving.
00:18:55
I just got off.
00:18:56
Just take the risk, that thing.
00:18:58
And at this point, like the auto tune one now, So, like they're in a bad spot and you're in the NFC East, you still got a chance.
00:19:04
So, like, you're not your seasons over at this point, we still got a chance.
00:19:06
NFC is Is that bad? Like Cowboys defense is atrocious.
00:19:10
Yet Washington obviously, they're not up there in the Giants, so they still have a chance this year.
00:19:15
So I just think Peterson has got to go.
00:19:18
I think I don't have his either mid season or some something just not right in that locker room.
00:19:22
It just doesn't seem right.
00:19:25
I got I gotta go.
00:19:26
Whence, uh, Doug Peterson, He out coached by electric in the Super Bowl.
00:19:31
He had Nick Foles, his quarterback, Big ****, Nick Foles his quarterback and he won the Super Bowl.
00:19:38
I mean, you last me.
00:19:41
You spoke holes needed three weeks to be mixed.
00:19:45
Robiskie in a quarterback competition.
00:19:47
That's bad.
00:19:48
And you, let's look, let's look at once.
00:19:51
He has a better completion percentage this year when he's blitzed than when he has a clean pocket.
00:19:57
That's scary.
00:19:58
Here's a little like a decorating.
00:20:02
He has the lowest passer rating in the entire league through the first three weeks.
00:20:08
These accurate on 40% of his passes.
00:20:12
Let's look at these games.
00:20:13
Washington two picks, two fumbles.
00:20:15
One lost, Uh, Then next game.
00:20:18
Two picks rating. 56.
00:20:22
Then this past week, two picks, one fumble.
00:20:25
Ah, sal***ed.
00:20:27
That whole game was sal***ed by late run by Cincy.
00:20:30
I mean, this is a team that even Cleveland beat and he's putting up a quarterback right into 62.
00:20:37
He can't play against bad teams, and they haven't played a good team yet.
00:20:41
So I don't see a situation where this could be put on Peterson because he's just not performing.
00:20:47
Yeah, I just my thing is like armor after watching it.
00:20:50
I didn't watch the first game because I figured like I have watched another games instead.
00:20:54
So I tried to watch it.
00:20:55
He goes, I'm Carson wins fan like I've been a fan of his since NBS you.
00:20:58
I like the way he plays.
00:21:00
I like it.
00:21:01
It's hard.
00:21:02
Grind the side of water that goes in the past two games and you'll see flashes.
00:21:05
The old Carson was like one place you seem like, make like a decent throw or make a decent play the next play.
00:21:10
He was like absolute garbage.
00:21:11
So at that point, this guy to play calling, In my opinion, because in the NFL coaching football, in general, coaching is just so big.
00:21:19
You have to have a good culture, makes the great play calls at the right time because like it's always like a chess game, like we had to figure out how to use the right pieces in the right way.
00:21:28
So so once his injury prone we.
00:21:33
We all know this because I have.
00:21:36
The question I have is you got a coach who is out Coach Belichick on one hand.
00:21:42
On the other hand, you have Carson once who we know can't stay healthy.
00:21:47
He has shown us he can't beat bad teams.
00:21:50
He's never virtually played in the playoffs, so we don't know how that would work.
00:21:55
Um, and Russell Wilson, if once is so bad right now, the Russell was gonna throw 46 straight interceptions and still have a better passer rating.
00:22:06
I'm just looking at this guy.
00:22:08
I think he could be good.
00:22:09
Do you have a guy that's injury prone? When you have a guy that has not shown, he can show up in the playoffs at all? And you have? It's either him or the coach was one of the Super Bowl with the quarterback who can beat mixed Robiskie in a quarterback race.
00:22:22
I really don't see how this the discussion.
00:22:26
Yeah.
00:22:27
So my thing is, So you're saying Peterson just safe to go like So you're you're picking the coach over $110 million quarterback.
00:22:34
That's what you're saying? Yeah.
00:22:36
I mean, this Corvette can stay healthy either as much money you're paying and that you're gonna go out just okay.
00:22:42
Like I thought.
00:22:43
I mean, it's not your money, I guess, but the same time, So are you saying what do you start? Jailer hurts over once.
00:22:51
I mean, we'll see.
00:22:54
We'll see.
00:22:56
Because the NFC East is trash.
00:22:58
But you've got to make a decision right now because once makes a lot of money. Awesome.
00:23:03
Get him off the books.
00:23:05
If you're not gonna pick him, get him off the books, right? Somebody will take him.
00:23:08
Um, if you're going to rebuild, embrace the rebuilding, going to pick one's pick once.
00:23:12
But you gotta pick one or the other.
00:23:15
Okay.
00:23:16
Would you start hurt? So I'm asking, like you What do you started? It depends, e.
00:23:23
I don't mean this to be a cop out. Answer. But it depends.
00:23:25
Uh, how do you want to use hurts if you want to use him as a passer like Joe Burrow? I don't think so.
00:23:30
I don't think he has enough experience.
00:23:32
I don't think he has enough time underneath.
00:23:35
You know, the quarterback leading the way you want to use them is like an option threat.
00:23:39
Like a tasting hill.
00:23:40
Go right ahead.
00:23:41
Because that really other than possible injuries hasn't really injured quarterbacks and hurt quarterbacks in the path of their development.
00:23:48
So I think they just got to choose one or the other quick, before they really early on, Like, went like like he was a great option quarterback.
00:23:54
So that's how the eagles play for a while.
00:23:56
Like they played a great, like, kind of like mobile, like on the fly option.
00:23:59
They kinda went away from because of injuries and stuff so they could go back to that.
00:24:03
I mean, there were some rumors about trading blends for Philip Rivers because, like you be reunited with his office, according that he wants almost one of BP with you say that could be a really good, like kind of match or coaching and player and, like, maybe filled up and gets amount of filled rivers because you're just looking, like decent this year or so something that could possibly consider.
00:24:23
But we'll see him.
00:24:25
What do you make that trade, Philip Rivers for once? No, no, we're just too old.
00:24:31
Um, he makes decisions, like at the same time they get personally on the line, so he could like, kind of nurture hurts into that role.
00:24:38
So true, I I just don't know what you're gonna accomplish with that because they're trying to make the playoffs because, I mean, you have the injury book that won't leave you alone, and you're not gonna win Or do you go for a good pick? Um e mean, if the eagles just either way, you know, you're saying once I'm saying Peterson for who needs to stay either way any Vega decision because you're the only game back.
00:25:03
But that's dangerous at their game back.
00:25:06
Because if they think they have a chance and they go for it and they don't make the playoffs, well, now you don't make the playoffs, you don't have a good pick and you're stuck in your stuck in limbo back at ground ground.
00:25:16
You know, Step one.
00:25:17
So you just see what they dio do.
00:25:21
You know what? They play this upcoming week By chance, I could look it up if you don't.
00:25:25
Um I don't on the top, my head, actually not who looked at next week.
00:25:30
Let's see.
00:25:31
Philadelphia Eagles.
00:25:34
They will play at San Francisco 40 Niners.
00:25:43
Uh, you could bounce back, E.
00:25:45
I mean, like, they're very injury prone and stuff.
00:25:48
So, yeah.
00:25:51
Now, one weird thing I saw become ESPN today, they're saying that none of the second best chance of winning the NFC I don't know how that's even like discussion.
00:26:00
Like I don't know how ESPN can say that.
00:26:02
I mean, no sense of me both, uh, Thomas? No, they're not. Second.
00:26:08
They're up there. They're not Second, though.
00:26:10
Um, So we will go 22 issues that I cannot way to talk about.
00:26:17
Sunday night, Green Bay Packers went into New Orleans.
00:26:21
You know, there was no fans there, but they got the victory 37 30 and my take away from this game.
00:26:33
I'm gonna catch flak for this, But listen closely.
00:26:36
What I'm saying compared compared to where he waas, you know, M v p.
00:26:43
You know Drew Brees, quarterback for the Saints compared to where he waas Drew Brees is a washed up quarterback.
00:26:53
At this point, he's an average quarterback at best.
00:26:59
Thoughts.
00:27:03
Yeah, I just don't think so. I just don't agree.
00:27:05
I mean, like, right now you're the number one option is gone.
00:27:08
So, like Michael Thomas, like, he's been nailing him pretty much all this time, So I just think that's a huge loss for him.
00:27:16
I mean, he's gonna like him a lot the past two seasons, like I just have the office has been set up, but now I don't think that's right, because I think part of that is coaching to again, because I think Coach is really big on the phone because I've watched the Packers game.
00:27:28
There was all about tomorrow.
00:27:29
I was just there throwing a car every time, kind of focus off all about him, like me to spread it out more.
00:27:34
So I just don't like the offense, so I don't think it brings it all.
00:27:38
I think he's still the same level despite him being 40 40 years old.
00:27:42
I know. Yeah, he's up there.
00:27:43
But the same time, like me Washington play, I don't know.
00:27:46
It's any drop off.
00:27:47
I don't know if any kind of cliff or anything like you still playing the same level, making very hard decisions.
00:27:51
He's not throwing picks or anything, so I just disagree.
00:27:55
Like, you know, he's out his number. One option.
00:28:00
He is.
00:28:01
Eso is Aaron Rodgers, and Aaron Rodgers has less pieces around him.
00:28:05
Um, which and then he played out of his mind.
00:28:09
Um, but you brought up Sean Payton in the coaching and it revolving around Kambara.
00:28:15
Sean Payton's won a Super Bowl.
00:28:17
It's not the tell all Bill, but he is.
00:28:18
He knows what he's doing.
00:28:19
He still has a job.
00:28:20
He's consistently good.
00:28:22
You don t gate.
00:28:24
But that's just the starting point.
00:28:27
I know that still hurts, but hey, Sean Payton isn't dumb.
00:28:31
You call it a lot of things, but he is not dumb.
00:28:34
I took the Camara thing the other way.
00:28:36
I look at it and I said, Sean Payton loves Drew.
00:28:40
Brees is often opened up the field.
00:28:43
Him not taking any deep shots with Drew Brees tells me that Sean Payton doesn't trust him to throw deep.
00:28:50
I mean, it's easy to play against a team that can just do screens and short passes.
00:28:56
Easy to play a team like that.
00:28:58
He knew the Packers were coming into town and he knows that That's not going to get you very much.
00:29:03
But he still played that way, which is why I'm looking at this and saying, I don't think Sean Payton believes in his deep arm accuracy.
00:29:11
No, I don't think he's.
00:29:13
He can't throw deep all to save his life, but compared to what he was, they didn't take any chances.
00:29:18
Um, and like I said before a Rod, I mean, he is against the Vikings and Lions drops all over the board and you look at the Saints.
00:29:28
They got Emmanuel Sanders, Super Bowl player Jared Cook, good caliber, tight end.
00:29:34
They got a lot of gadget plays with hail trick on Smith.
00:29:37
They have better pieces, and I don't think Sean Payton is dumb enough to just do the science and expect the one.
00:29:44
I think he knows.
00:29:46
That's all Drew Brees can do right now.
00:29:50
Yeah, I just think with many standards of Yeah, they have a pace pieces.
00:29:54
So I think like like part of visits coaching at the same time.
00:29:58
Last game.
00:29:59
Mr Packer's I mean breezy through for 288 yards and roster for 2 83 it has more yards.
00:30:05
They both threw three TDs and recently in completed seven passes.
00:30:09
You 3 29 36.
00:30:11
So the same time, like he's he's pretty much right up there. Aaron Rodgers.
00:30:15
He really waas drop scored 30 points is the offense.
00:30:18
So there are really neck was most court game because neck and neck.
00:30:22
So that's kind of the same level.
00:30:23
So I didn't know any kind of big kind of glad you brought that up.
00:30:28
Let Z let's look closer.
00:30:30
Drew Brees, Week one.
00:30:31
Tampa Bay is the same offense.
00:30:33
Tampa Bay's run defense, first in the year passing defense last year was dead last 18 for 3160 yards.
00:30:39
Two touchdowns because the Wednesday 100 60 yards, two touchdowns, 60% completion percentage.
00:30:45
Not terrible.
00:30:47
Now what we expect from Drew Brees.
00:30:50
Take out the 1 46 yard pass and granted, you could take out any place from any quarterback.
00:30:54
Take out that one play just one.
00:30:57
His stat line is now 17 for 29 114 years, 6.
00:31:02
7 yards per completion.
00:31:04
This isn't in the air.
00:31:06
This is total.
00:31:07
Every past gets 6.
00:31:08
7 yards Week to decision making. Bad.
00:31:12
Questionable interception.
00:31:13
Lose by 10 to a horrible Las Vegas defense.
00:31:17
Rene.
00:31:18
Look a Week three against Green Bay.
00:31:19
Take out the final drive and here's why.
00:31:21
I say take out the final drive because the game was over at that point.
00:31:23
I think we both agree 1 30 left down.
00:31:26
10 gives virtually over and the 52 yard screen pass and I say, Take that out.
00:31:32
Why? Because that was That was the one yard pass The Packers just suck to tackling.
00:31:37
You could bolt it down that, you know, take out the Packers Thio, take out the Packers playing, prevent defense and take out them not being able to tackle 23 completions, 177 yards, 7.
00:31:52
7 yards for completion.
00:31:54
That's better.
00:31:55
But per completion on average, it's short pass, short pass, short pass short past your past.
00:32:01
They're not taking shots with them, and that's all he can do.
00:32:05
And that's all he's shown he can do against three defense is that they're not going to be hard to see faces.
00:32:12
So Drew Brees.
00:32:13
Hey, his completion percentage might be fantastic, but if he's not throwing the deep ball, if he's if he's throwing six yard completions, well, yeah, I should be getting, you know, that high completion percentage? Yeah, I don't know.
00:32:28
I mean, like, if that's the case, I don't know what a more quarterbacks do that.
00:32:32
Then we're like, What's accurate? They throw a short passes stuff.
00:32:34
How come, like you don't have, like, a lot of like the cars that once that you just brought up or they can know how come they don't do that kind of boosted their complete percentages.
00:32:41
You could just do that well, because that's not how you win games.
00:32:45
And I think that it brings it back to Sean Payton again.
00:32:48
I think he knows that this can't win games.
00:32:50
But I think he knows at the same time that this is the only way he can compete in games because they have Camara, who is, uh, this year been the best running back in the league.
00:32:58
Um, maybe Erin Jones, But I'd still say Camara by by a decent amount.
00:33:03
Um, I think he knows that their team is good enough to be able to beat some decent teams this way.
00:33:10
Um, but they're not good enough to beat everybody this way so they can get away with it because they have the talent.
00:33:15
But, you know, I just don't see him having ability because Sean Payton, we all know he loves Drew Brees.
00:33:23
You have confidence? Um, yeah.
00:33:26
I mean, like, they've been together so long.
00:33:28
So So, like, they have a great relationship.
00:33:29
So we kind of just kind of see how it plays out.
00:33:32
Do you? How long Michael towns out for, like, is it like, four weeks? It will be interesting.
00:33:37
Um, Michael Thomas.
00:33:40
It looks like he will definitely be out.
00:33:43
Um, probably this next week. It's questionable.
00:33:49
Um, they have said they did say the week leading to the Packer game, which was right after the injury, that he was progressing better than normal.
00:33:57
Um, when I brought up into my streams of Fleury sports, um, that I'm on, everyone's in Friday.
00:34:03
You don't know. Check out flair, sports, live streams.
00:34:06
Um, they don't wanna be cautious with him.
00:34:09
They haven't wanted to record their schedule.
00:34:11
Isn't really that tough coming up.
00:34:12
So even if he's good for next week, I still think they arrest him because they also have an earlier by a swell.
00:34:20
Um, but we'll see.
00:34:22
I mean, if they lose week four.
00:34:24
Got to think about putting them in early two.
00:34:27
Yeah.
00:34:28
So there's everything they gotta watch for.
00:34:30
So we'll see the stance ago.
00:34:33
I think they'll be fine.
00:34:34
I think they'll get it together, so we'll just see how it goes.
00:34:38
They do play the Lions this Sunday lion just beat Arizona.
00:34:43
But still, I think that's more of fluke than I think.
00:34:46
Colin Murray.
00:34:48
Three pigs use my M v P.
00:34:50
Pick. You better get.
00:34:53
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:34:57
Charges could be a tough game.
00:34:59
Then they play panthers down.
00:35:00
McCaffrey bears that it gets a little tougher but he'll be back by then.
00:35:04
We're going to stick on this game.
00:35:08
We're gonna go to the Green Bay Packers.
00:35:10
Uh, I have heard that you have a very interesting opinion about these three. No packers.
00:35:15
Um, possibly being overrated.
00:35:17
Is that true? Yeah, absolutely.
00:35:20
Especially the media right now, because one of the annals of Fox Sports one.
00:35:27
His name is Brandon Marshall.
00:35:28
She said, This office is possibly could be the best office ever.
00:35:32
And that was just like they're going way way too far. This.
00:35:37
Like I said, the Packers the third best opposite the league at best.
00:35:40
I said 33 at best, So that would be the best in the league this year.
00:35:43
So I said, third at the best.
00:35:45
I just think, like is overrated, I think.
00:35:47
Game one against the Vikings, A team like the quarterbacks, rookies, first NFL game ever with no pre season.
00:35:53
So that so no kind of gang praise or anything.
00:35:56
Just first NFL games throw him out there because Aaron Rodgers like, if I was a rookie, I'll be terrified of like what is going on? So you just way too smart, so I'm just like, OK, Game two.
00:36:05
It was not the lion mind even think.
00:36:07
Nothing let Mr Travis key comeback in the fourth quarter.
00:36:11
So look at your biscuits and he's got back.
00:36:14
So you got that e mean Callin Murray, But the same time he's a young player, that he's gonna make mistakes like you probably like the Lions that you so like.
00:36:23
I'm not worried about that game.
00:36:24
So Mr Risky, like Tourist Alliance in the fourth quarter's.
00:36:28
That's just so they're not nothing.
00:36:30
So I just think at the same time and the things that things defense like the corner, it's okay.
00:36:35
Like it's not like up there, but like like move around to keep us focused.
00:36:39
Team narrowly passing as much.
00:36:41
So I just had the same time like I don't see the best options ever, so I just haven't seen it yet.
00:36:49
I said that the third best opposite league this year at best.
00:36:52
Let me let me let me hit you with with some stats here, 462 yards per game, second NFL one a half of those without Davante Adams fifth and pass yards per game, second and rust yards per game.
00:37:08
Very balanced offense again.
00:37:10
1.
00:37:11
5 without Davante 14th in yards allowed.
00:37:14
Not too bad, Nice and *** tied for fifth and turnover differential.
00:37:19
No giveaways.
00:37:21
And all this is with all these drops.
00:37:24
We have seen Stern Burger make drop after drop.
00:37:26
We have seen Marcas Walda Scantlin.
00:37:29
He cannot catch a ball to save his life.
00:37:31
Devante is not there.
00:37:33
Alma's aren't We saw him step up.
00:37:34
Holy smokes.
00:37:37
These guys are dropping.
00:37:40
Oh, so many balls and they're still putting up these stats.
00:37:44
And I know you're going to say they played, you know, Detroit.
00:37:47
They played Minnesota.
00:37:48
They played New Orleans.
00:37:50
Look at the other undefeated teams.
00:37:52
Buffalo has played the Jets, Miami, the Rams.
00:37:56
Nothing pops out.
00:37:57
Pittsburgh, Houston, Aaron, Donald.
00:38:00
That game they gave, they gave up 35 though they have 35 of the Bills and the Bills, the Bills without a collapse that would have easily won.
00:38:09
It's like I said.
00:38:10
Giants.
00:38:11
Denver, Houston, Tennessee.
00:38:13
They've eked out wins over Denver, Jacksonville, Minnesota, Chicago Giants, Detroit, Atlanta You'll know about Atlanta, Seattle in Kansas City, where the only teams with more impressive resume and again we are looking at three games, 1.
00:38:29
5 without Davante near one of the top five teams in NFL.
00:38:35
If not should be top three when Davante comes back.
00:38:39
And remember, this team isn't at their full capacity yet.
00:38:42
This team granted best office all the time.
00:38:45
I will agree with you. That is a ridiculous statement.
00:38:47
But that softens the league.
00:38:50
Obviously, you gotta put the Chiefs up there.
00:38:53
Yeah, she's last night. There are unreal.
00:38:55
You told me he had a TV last night, you know, alive in 15 touchdowns.
00:39:01
Look, cheese turn really got to put the cheese first.
00:39:03
But Seattle's three, you know.
00:39:06
But we saw them do the same thing last year, and then they got to the playoffs.
00:39:10
The Packers just blitz Russell's and we saw they had nothing but him.
00:39:13
So I'm looking at the stats and looking at who the other teams have played.
00:39:17
I think, if anything, you could argue their little underrated because their defense is better than last year.
00:39:24
The defense is better.
00:39:25
Yeah, so, like so So they're opposite league where we rank of it.
00:39:28
So she says, second, behind the cheese.
00:39:30
Is that what you're saying? Okay.
00:39:35
Probably after seeing Lamar Jackson struggle to throw the ball.
00:39:40
Granted, there were a lot of drops.
00:39:42
I think they had five, but on the deep balls he was not didn't have any semblance of accuracy on.
00:39:48
But the chief's defense that is good, not great.
00:39:50
I'll put him second, would easily put him second.
00:39:53
Yeah, so for me personally, I'm like So I'll put the cheese over him and I'll put asking Dallas over them.
00:39:59
I think that was more firepower.
00:40:00
You got executive Elliott running the ball that Prescott Heathrow.
00:40:03
Ah, lot of passing yards out there.
00:40:05
So he's living a football and crazies.
00:40:07
Their office is way up there, too.
00:40:09
They got old receiver weapons and stuff in Dallas, so you can sleep on them at all.
00:40:13
And then you have Seattle think Seattle's off there, too.
00:40:16
So, like, I think Seattle Packers about the same offense.
00:40:18
That's why I said, like Packers by third at best.
00:40:20
But yeah, I put doubts over like I think that's got all those weapons.
00:40:25
He's got no problem with Dallas.
00:40:27
The problem with Dallas is two words, and those words are Mike McCarthy.
00:40:33
This team is one and two.
00:40:35
They have arguably the best top through water drivers in the league.
00:40:39
I would argue it's not really even arguable.
00:40:41
Gallop and Cooper put up 1000 yards last year.
00:40:44
See, the lamb is better than Gallup this year. So far.
00:40:47
Um, Prescott is good.
00:40:49
Elliott good.
00:40:50
Often the line is good.
00:40:51
There's still one and two they're still wanted to, so I don't see how you can take a team that's one and two.
00:40:56
Granted, they played the ramps, but they could only put up 20 on the Rams.
00:40:59
Or they eat or the Bills put up 37.
00:41:02
Um, they played the Seahawks.
00:41:03
Put up a good amount of points, but the Seahawks are injured.
00:41:07
Um, how does it for you? And then the Falcons have no defense.
00:41:14
I'd like to see them play a good team, and, like I said, Mike McCarthy, he just can't make good decisions on offense.
00:41:21
Um, and you know, you talked about Detroit appropriate Arizona.
00:41:26
Minnesota lost the Tennessee by only one.
00:41:30
Um, New Orleans made Brady look bad and beat them by 11.
00:41:33
These aren't scrubs, and they're beating them and they're beating them bad.
00:41:38
They've beaten the spread three times.
00:41:42
Yeah, so I mean, those are all valid points.
00:41:44
I mean, we'll see that person pretty progressive.
00:41:47
So, like, I mean, looking at dead President Prescott this year like he's throwing a lot of passing yards, probably the league in passing yards and get once again.
00:41:54
Honestly, they have Russell Wilson M V P caliber year.
00:41:57
Like generally dynamic offense like you through five TDs last game, I believe.
00:42:01
So.
00:42:02
Is there a lot of P T V? A lot of the dynamics in the offense, So we'll see the season progresses.
00:42:07
Yeah, so I mean, as it right now.
00:42:09
Like I said, Packer the third best offense at best.
00:42:13
But, yeah, that happens all the time.
00:42:16
That's 90 of the conversation.
00:42:17
I think we both can agree with that.
00:42:19
Yeah, and I mean, you look at the Packers schedule coming up Monday night football against the Falcons.
00:42:26
They might drop 50 points.
00:42:28
Um, Buccaneers.
00:42:30
That'll be a challenge.
00:42:31
Texans, Vikings, um, and so on.
00:42:34
So on.
00:42:35
So we'll see how that goes.
00:42:36
Probably biggest test will be Buccaneers won't really learn much against the Falcons, unless somehow there often is completely inept.
00:42:43
Um, but I do have a question via Twitter.
00:42:48
Um, Then it was after seeing how Jacksonville fared without chart against Miami.
00:42:56
Is chart the key to this offense or does this often still run through Gardner Mitchell? Um, I think all this stuff garden mystery for now, I would say, Yeah, I mean, like, he's probably the only young, like talent they have right now, so I would say I'd probably go guard the mission for now.
00:43:15
So, like I'm missing enough from sharks, so we'll see.
00:43:20
Well, what do you say? It's tough, I think.
00:43:24
First of all, James Robinson looked absolutely fantastic.
00:43:28
Hey, looked like a true running back one.
00:43:30
He looked like the next lender for net.
00:43:32
He's not Fat asked, but he's shifting.
00:43:35
He can run you over.
00:43:36
Um, offense line didn't give him into any time.
00:43:40
Then she wasn't great, but he also have a lot of time to throw.
00:43:43
Um, that's not something that cjh Arc is gonna fix as a wide receiver.
00:43:48
Maybe that has to do with confidence, but they got smacked pretty badly.
00:43:53
I don't see that happening.
00:43:56
Um, we will look forward, though, you know, just the one game.
00:44:00
It's gonna be a very interesting game.
00:44:03
Thursday Night Football week four.
00:44:07
Oh, boy.
00:44:08
Are you gonna watch this game? It is the Denver Broncos at the New York Jets.
00:44:12
Denver Broncos will be going to the third string quarterback.
00:44:15
Obviously, like us hurt.
00:44:16
Um, Driscoll there benching for rye prion.
00:44:20
I believe in pronouncing it right or even gonna watch this game.
00:44:23
Who's gonna win? Do you think is even worth it? I mean, like, I would say, Probably worth watching me.
00:44:30
I'll probably pick attic.
00:44:31
I mean, I'm just sports junkie personally.
00:44:33
Stop by, pick out and watch some, but yeah, I would take another minute.
00:44:37
Weird kind of Thursday night matchup.
00:44:39
I don't know.
00:44:40
I think that for this and that's kind of weird matchup.
00:44:42
Broncos, That's both are really going anywhere. Yeah.
00:44:47
If anything, Bronco, they should sign Kaepernick because, I don't know, the quarterback even is right now.
00:44:50
I could have been I haven't even their quarterback like you.
00:44:53
Probably at least in the look, right? Print guy.
00:44:57
I mean, how do you take a look at leave? Uh, yeah, Well, yeah, I mean, a over under his 40.
00:45:10
That adds up. Pretty bad game.
00:45:13
Jets don't even average 300 yards of offense.
00:45:16
Broncos under 3 25.
00:45:18
Somebody's gonna get their first one.
00:45:20
I don't think it matters.
00:45:21
I don't think anybody's gonna care, especially with the movie playoffs.
00:45:24
Uh huh.
00:45:25
But any last final thoughts on any of the sports postseason baseball start now before we sign off.
00:45:33
Yeah, so I would just say like, I'm still thinking I'm still thinking about White Sox versus Dodgers pick.
00:45:39
White Sox were kind of slumping going in, But why is it that they look great today against the against the A, So I like them a lot.
00:45:46
Also, shout out the Tampa Bay congratulations with the way Stanley Cup.
00:45:49
Yeah, I watched that game last night.
00:45:52
The paper Police are hockey throughout, so shout out to them and yes, so we'll see.
00:45:58
I mean, Vikings.
00:45:59
I don't think it's over yet, so I mean, like, Oh, and three is tough.
00:46:02
But I think they could bounce back then they had.
00:46:03
The town would do it like what we've seen from them so simply in the Vikings, and we'll see from there.
00:46:09
And I think, and the final should be interesting starts tomorrow night on the one last thing.
00:46:15
One last thing is tonight's presidential debate side the stay.
00:46:18
Just go. Vote. Make sure you registered.
00:46:20
Just make sure.
00:46:21
Make sure all good to go to the But there is a big day.
00:46:24
Make sure you vote early.
00:46:26
That's really big.
00:46:27
Really important.
00:46:28
I'm pretty sure heard 1000 times, but you gotta sit on our platforms for those who have missed it.
00:46:34
White Sox be of athletics.
00:46:35
4 to 1.
00:46:36
Astros beat the Twins, 4 to 1.
00:46:38
Yankees.
00:46:39
They're currently up to two.
00:46:40
Nothing up into two and the razor up.
00:46:41
Three.
00:46:42
Nothing over the Blue Jays top the eighth.
00:46:43
Um, I will sign off by saying the Brewers play the Dodgers tomorrow and the crew in two crews going to sweep the Dodgers.
00:46:54
So without that again, if you're watching live, thanks for tuning in.
00:46:58
If you're catching the replay, feel free to tweet at either me or Chris on.
00:47:03
You guys.
00:47:04
Have a great night.
00:47:05
We'll see you again Saturday for Episode three of Reasonable Doubt.
00:47:08
Have a good one
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Reasonable Doubt Episode 2: Finals Preview, Drew Brees, Carson Wentz and more!

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Trevor Land @TrevorLand2
Reasonable Doubt Podcast

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00:00:16
Welcome back to go to reasonable doubt.
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Hearing here live. Welcome.
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If you're watching a replay, welcome is well, uh, as always, You know, the rules.
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If you have any questions throwing in the chat if you're alive.
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If found, replay tweet at either of us at Seymour sister at C.
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Underscore more. Six for Chris.
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Travel in two for me.
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Um, I'm not gonna talk too much to start.
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I will just hand it over to Chris as the as the twins fan here.
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Chris, I know you have something.
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You want to get off your chest, Go ahead.
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Yeah, I just want to start just another disgrace, man.
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I'm telling you, just utter disgrace.
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Like being Minnesota fan is so tough.
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Like I'm born and raised in ST Paul, Minnesota.
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Guys don't know lived there for 12 years.
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Living Hotels Council right now is just right across the river is about 15 miles away.
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So still local here in the area, rooting for my local teams and be Minnesota fans just so, so tough.
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Just go.
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In the past year, we have the Minnesota go for football.
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We thought this was the year they had a great start undefeated a while.
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And then he had the debacle against the Badgers.
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Like I was at that game like I was freezing cold like it was blistery conditions.
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Crazy snow.
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I paid, like $2 and my homies silly to go to that game.
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And then what? Then you have the Vikings like Look at them now they're all and three.
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They lost business kicker like a kicker.
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Beat them.
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I've never seen NFL game where a kicker beat the team, but that's what happened.
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66 field goals.
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That's unreadable.
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Any of both.
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Double, cook and feel had over 185 yards each, and they still lost like that's just on now.
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You got a covert outbreak in between the facility's closed all week, so it's just unbelievable.
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Then you have the Wolves.
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There are disgraced all year long.
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They got a number one pick, and it's like the worst draft class ever, so it doesn't even mean anything.
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I mean, you got the wild even like I'm not the biggest hockey fan, but I watched I got root for the while local team.
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During the first round of playoffs, Game five, they were playing his Vancouver Waas And when? Overtime.
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Seven seconds into overtime, they lost in the goal.
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Seven seconds in overtime.
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A season over.
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And now at the Twins.
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The Twins today? Yeah, there they were a wonder of holding it down most.
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The game that they played solid, it was okay, we're doing okay.
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And then the ninth inning came.
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Let the actual scored three runs in the ninth inning.
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The Astros and we're the division champions.
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I mean, we better get this together.
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I'm just saying all this right now because I'm begging the twins to get it together for me.
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Minnesota native for me, Just unbelievable.
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The Twins please get together and make a run for me.
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Last we wanted championship with anything.
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1991 for the Clinton.
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So just please, for me, that's all you have to say.
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It's all Yeah.
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You know, as a Wisconsin fan, we may have more success over the grand scheme of things, but we also know how to disappoint fans in the great state of Wisconsin.
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So, um, I know how you feel to a certain extent.
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Um, even Minnesota Lynx, bro.
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They got balance in the second round playoff.
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They can't get anything All right.
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Well, you know what? Just e.
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I'll tell you what, We'll go to another one of your team's Azzawi as well as you predicted Saturday.
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The Lakers won Game five over the Nuggets.
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Uh, they have advanced to the NBA Finals.
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They will meet the Miami Heat.
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Um, who is your pick for this year's? I mean, I already know what the pick is.
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Um, it's obviously a boy, LeBron and the Lakers.
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But I guess what I'm really asking is, what is the rationale? And what are the chances that the Lakers won this? Because I feel like we might have different opinions on this one.
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Yeah, so I got the Lakers.
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I mean, obviously, I'm LeBron fan always grew from, but honestly, just talking like, um, as an ****yst, just looking at both teams.
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Honestly, that's the Lakers is clearly the Lakers.
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You have to the top five players in the league right now.
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LeBron Anthony Davis Last Lakers beat them both times in a season, and anti Davis, like you completely destroyed the heat lasted.
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He played.
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So I just think like they have no answers for, like Anthony Davis, like even with bam like I know like he's a solid defender, but he's just he's still in experience, like 80 has more of the experience.
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He's a smarter player, and I think like the way he plays on the outside, he'll bring Bam outside more.
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And I'm driving even easier for LeBron.
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So because 80 shoots mid range, shoots the three.
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So we pulled out the lane and then I'll make it even easier for LeBron and run on, making some plays and driving and kick out the shooters.
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So I just think it's gonna be easy.
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And then at the end of the day, the Heat they don't have with that star player to go to, because Jimmy Butler hasn't really proved it like he's been like there for flashes but hasn't been a consistently.
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That's like in class moment really need a bucket.
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So that's why I got the Lakers, and I think I'll be if 80 is top five.
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Who is your top five right now? Yeah, because we might have a problem with before we even get into the Siri's.
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Okay, well, here's the thing.
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So, like Katie and stuff, they're not playing this here.
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So, like they don't account so you can count them because they're not playing.
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I'm starting to leak this season, so you can't account those two.
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So I got Brown one, Number two output.
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I gotta go to quiet, like, probably.
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Why? Even though he did debacle, but overall, like, e gotta go quiet.
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Okay.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know.
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Don't give me that look. It's gotta be quiet.
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But then I had to go.
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Probably honest.
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I guess that you got the stats and yeah, you got to go with him three.
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Or I'll put 84.
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Okay, I put 84 then five.
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Based on this season, I gotta You gotta beluga in there like you got to like he had a remark.
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You put up a fight against a against the Clippers this postseason, basically average double double.
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So you gotta polluting our conversation.
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Like I know he's only 21.
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But do you happen that conversation? Uh oh.
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I had another star on his team and accordingly, Apparently, the best mention MBA, um, couldn't do anything with it.
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Also, number one, M v p.
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And a final or defense played here in the same year.
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And also, I don't think has even ever won an M v p but somehow is above the honest but beside the point.
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Um, Miami's gonna win this series.
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Miami is gonna win the Siri's.
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Here's why Lakers play the Blazers.
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They showed weakness first.
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Good shooting guards.
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Miami does not have Lillard.
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They do not have McCollum.
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Um, but they still took him five.
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Portland has no good small forward power forward, um, questionable bigs at best, but they still showed some weakness.
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Is the Lakers in three point shooting go to Houston again showed their week two of the three.
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Um, if the Houston's had if Houston had any big zit all, they might stand a chance but again showed their ineptitude.
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Being able to beat teams that can shoot the three well and against Denver, Let's not forget.
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Denver played former games while more emotional.
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I'm outside of Yokich.
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They don't have any great big.
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They don't have a great guards outside of Murray.
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Um, you know, they wanted five, you know, Probably helped that they had 24 free throws in the second quarter of game one.
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Um, Jamal Murray and Yoke, which found themselves with five fouls the whole game.
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35 to 23 total free throws.
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Ah, you know, in one of the game's Etienne, LeBron had 24 free throws made Walt number 23 attempts.
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Um, and I'm just concerned about the slave.
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First three games brought only a 10 free throw attempts.
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You remember that you only attend for three games you got.
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Remember that, but But it's it's all equal, You know, when you make more another team attempts.
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Either the refs are bad because he complained or or you're really Then through four games, both team out of free throw attempts through four games in both the 130.
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So let's look at the Lakers.
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Game three shot, 64% in line game 1 73% in the line a D at a at a fantastic game winner in Game two.
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No, we're not gonna argue about that.
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We both know that is one heck of a shot.
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That is one heck of a play.
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Um, people seem to forget.
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Without that, Denver would have found themselves up to one in this series.
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That is a completely different Siri's, um, and you know, just because, you know, I know everybody's gonna complain about LeBron James foul calls.
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Um, in his first nine seasons, 609 games, he has followed out three times 1.
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5 fouls per game.
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So if he complains about foul calls, which maybe look in the mirror.
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But look, they eat has played better teams.
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They're good three point shooting team.
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Jimmy Butler doesn't have to be a star because they have somebody get pieces.
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Um, I just see Miami one in the Siri's.
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I don't see the Lakers win, and I don't think they're deep enough.
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Well, you know, they're deep in okay.
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My My biggest question is, who are the heat played in the playoffs? Well, uh, they played India.
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India is not good.
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I'm not gonna tell you India is a good team.
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Um, but I got a injury.
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A hey, T J.
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Warren was red hot.
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He was one of them VP picks, but yeah, they played, uh, they Hey.
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Okay, Fox team that did not hit what they should have.
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Um you could blame that on bud.
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Um, a lot.
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Obviously.
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Where the blame lies exactly.
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We don't know.
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Still be a good box team.
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Still a muscle them.
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And then they beat Boston.
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Who has 33 stars on that team.
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Yeah, but zero bench at all, whatsoever.
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And no bigs.
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Yeah, true, But they just patched him easily.
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I mean that that's what you expect from them.
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You know, the Bucks had Big Brooke second team, all defense.
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They have. Well, they had a bench.
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The bench did not show up.
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How much of that is Miami's defense or not? But, I mean, look, they sweeped Indianapolis easily.
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They manhandled Milwaukee for the one.
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They defended the threes beautifully.
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Um, Boston.
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They are more scores than than l A.
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Don't get me wrong.
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LeBron and 80 are better than everybody on the Celtics.
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But I will always take four scores and complicate, um, Brown and Hayward over just a Brown and Aid, because when those guys on the bench, the Celtics and road table when those guys on the bench, I don't know.
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And they wanted six in the series where they had very uncharacteristic shooting, which led to one of their losses very close.
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Yeah, well, stay based on the Game five, like I love Danny Green's like defensive energy like he's really flying out there a defense Last game, Game five.
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He's really flying out there.
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I guess He hit some threes, but he's been so inconsistent, like he can hit threes in the Siri's like it's a wrap.
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And then, like I think, Rondo, he's been playoff Rondo.
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He's playing exceptionally.
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He's playing 20 minutes every night.
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Assists like, Do you know how crazy that is? Like nine assists in 20 minutes? That's just insane.
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So Rondos and really make a lot of players out there flying out on defense and the Lakers defense in general just really elite.
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So I think, like they will defend Miami very well, force them to tough shots.
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I think because my doesn't have that one part of that kind of like be tough defense is like that one star player.
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I just think that's three.
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Is that like they can't get over the hump? I mean, I would just disagree because, you know, you look at what the Lakers around those great in passing cool.
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What can you do to shoot nothing contagious? Caldwell.
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Pope.
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You can be good.
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He He's not a guy you wanted.
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He's a guy.
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If he beats you in a seven game series.
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If here's the reason you let him have it, you let him have it. Kuzma.
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I mean, come on.
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No.
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Maybe later, but no.
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A game winner earlier in a bubble game winner.
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A game winner.
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I need more than one shot for a guy.
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You think they're shooter.
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I just look at this team.
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They got hero heroes, a bucket.
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Neither of us will disagree with that.
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Heroes? A A.
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They got none.
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They got Kendrick Nunn.
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Okay, Kendrick? Nothing like he's not playing a lot.
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Yeah, so, like apparently supposed to say he's out of shape.
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So he's been playing a lot, has been kind of light suspect.
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So, like, I don't know this to be a factor or not.
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So like, that's kind of a real wild card because apparently really out of shape.
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But I don't know, maybe I suppose you're playing the Siri's. I don't know.
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So we'll see.
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That's that's a big I don't know.
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Even if he doesn't, this is just a grinding team.
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You got Duncan Robinson.
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Jae Crowder is playing well.
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Nobody is talking about Goran Dragic.
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Goran Dragic looks like a yeah, right now.
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You're not Chris Paul Yeah, you forget what becomes, for a reason mean Jae Crowder is good at threes and defense.
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This team just feels built.
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Bam! He's gonna be the best defender and rebounder they faced.
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Yokich is tall, but defensive Bonnie Wise, he's not the best.
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Um, tragic is balling Crowder stepping up sports.
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You can't rebound.
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I never said he couldn't.
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I just did comparatively yoga, just like you.
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Honestly, that that was a big question mark with, like, 80 in the last season that he only averaged three rebounds a game.
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So that was, like very suspect and Yoko just dominate on the board and get anybody get the act together.
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That's how I get banned.
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Anybody get better? Spoelstra's the best coach in the league.
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This team is great chemistry, great defense.
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We've seen Miami come up big all the time and I've seen 80 come up big once in Game two.
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In that big shot, I've seen LeBron do the heavy lifting.
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Um, with all that heavy lifting, as much as I love LeBron, as much as I've seen, if 80 doesn't pick up the pace, I can't trust LeBron to do all that and take the game over.
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Um, I think LeBron is going to keep the team afloat, but 80 is the key to take him out.
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Next up on winning, and I don't trust him.
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He shoots 32% from three.
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LeBron is not a lethal shooter from three, none of their guys off the bench.
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Or that our role players can shoot the three.
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They can't shoot free throws.
00:15:05
There's a great grinding Miami defense that plays good D and they're tough and they know what they're doing. They got confidence.
00:15:11
That's scary.
00:15:12
And I see Miami winning in six or seven.
00:15:16
I don't see a way the Lakers get out of it.
00:15:18
You don't have good free throw shooters with Dwight Howard, too.
00:15:21
I just don't see it.
00:15:25
Yeah, free throw shooting is probably the biggest differently.
00:15:27
It's by far, but I just think this year the team, the Lakers, they're very motivated because yeah, the tragic death of Kobe Bryant, like they're all very motivated to women for Kobe and stuff.
00:15:36
LeBron's very motivated because he wants to win a third and final to meet people a third different team first player ever do that, so they all have a kind of the internal drives.
00:15:44
It's not just like Miami grinding and wanted it more like, Let's really want this to just for like, Kobe and just his legacy is this name and stuff.
00:15:52
So you remember that, too.
00:15:53
That's That's a big, huge, like, emotional at the same time, Let me tell you, they got they got some.
00:15:59
They got some dogs in Miami hero butler.
00:16:04
Those guys, man, they their motivation is the other teams motivation and taking their spirit from.
00:16:13
Yeah, All I know is that I can't wait to just see, like, LeBron just, you know, Kobe, This is for you, man.
00:16:19
I'm, like, Shut some tears, bro.
00:16:21
Once they went and he's saying he's gonna be saying that might shed a tear Thio that in Game six, press conference when he lost a serious 4 to 2.
00:16:31
Well, he wanna lose it, but, you know, he could only do so much.
00:16:35
Is he going to say it when they lose four to Kobe this for you? Because that's I'm just telling you, man, are you saying heating six Without you saying heating six, I think maybe if 80 steps up for a game or two shows us.
00:16:52
He could do it over the course of the whole game.
00:16:54
Uh, against a really stiff competition that isn't tired, I think you go seven.
00:17:01
Um, I think it's heat.
00:17:04
I think it's the driver's seat.
00:17:06
Yeah, my pick is probably Lakers and five.
00:17:09
I just like the notion of 5555 all the way through that.
00:17:12
Just be a nice gentleman.
00:17:13
Sweep through the playoffs like I just a nice, like, good luck looks.
00:17:16
I like the 5555 So I'm going to Lakers.
00:17:19
You could do that to you.
00:17:20
Could do that too.
00:17:21
Um, but without further do we move on, you know which one should we touched on first? Let's go, Carson.
00:17:35
Once I want to say it My Green Bay Packers Fun to the show because I can't wait to talk about that.
00:17:41
Um, Doug Peterson.
00:17:44
I think what whence is the issue with this team? What do you think? I said it's definitely Doug Peterson.
00:17:51
Like I watched that last Eagles game like he made a lot of question.
00:17:55
Will play call, especially in overtime.
00:17:56
Like that was unacceptable.
00:17:58
Like they punted on the final drive.
00:18:00
You didn't let once get a chance to go for this touchdown.
00:18:02
He just wanted to go.
00:18:03
We're going for the tire of punting.
00:18:04
So, like you just lost complete trust in his quarterback.
00:18:07
There's the importance of once calling his own place in the line of scrimmage.
00:18:11
I mean, he didn't trust this coach at all.
00:18:13
So relations that fragmented you're paying $110 million to a quarterback.
00:18:18
You got to do with the coach like he's just not the answer, So I don't know what it is like.
00:18:22
I think part of it, honestly, it could be because they're so worried about getting one's hurt, because I think once his best, when he's active, Mobile like getting out of the pocket, using his legs a little bit, throwing on the run.
00:18:33
I think that's what he does best.
00:18:35
But the thing about the Eagles play calling is they're very conservative that since you kind of want him to stay in a traditional non mobile quarterback because they want to protect as much as possible.
00:18:44
They were injury. He is very injury prone.
00:18:46
You can't deny that at the same time.
00:18:48
Like I just think that once his best game and like the legal best chance to win is that they haven't like out there moving.
00:18:55
I just got off.
00:18:56
Just take the risk, that thing.
00:18:58
And at this point, like the auto tune one now, So, like they're in a bad spot and you're in the NFC East, you still got a chance.
00:19:04
So, like, you're not your seasons over at this point, we still got a chance.
00:19:06
NFC is Is that bad? Like Cowboys defense is atrocious.
00:19:10
Yet Washington obviously, they're not up there in the Giants, so they still have a chance this year.
00:19:15
So I just think Peterson has got to go.
00:19:18
I think I don't have his either mid season or some something just not right in that locker room.
00:19:22
It just doesn't seem right.
00:19:25
I got I gotta go.
00:19:26
Whence, uh, Doug Peterson, He out coached by electric in the Super Bowl.
00:19:31
He had Nick Foles, his quarterback, Big ****, Nick Foles his quarterback and he won the Super Bowl.
00:19:38
I mean, you last me.
00:19:41
You spoke holes needed three weeks to be mixed.
00:19:45
Robiskie in a quarterback competition.
00:19:47
That's bad.
00:19:48
And you, let's look, let's look at once.
00:19:51
He has a better completion percentage this year when he's blitzed than when he has a clean pocket.
00:19:57
That's scary.
00:19:58
Here's a little like a decorating.
00:20:02
He has the lowest passer rating in the entire league through the first three weeks.
00:20:08
These accurate on 40% of his passes.
00:20:12
Let's look at these games.
00:20:13
Washington two picks, two fumbles.
00:20:15
One lost, Uh, Then next game.
00:20:18
Two picks rating. 56.
00:20:22
Then this past week, two picks, one fumble.
00:20:25
Ah, sal***ed.
00:20:27
That whole game was sal***ed by late run by Cincy.
00:20:30
I mean, this is a team that even Cleveland beat and he's putting up a quarterback right into 62.
00:20:37
He can't play against bad teams, and they haven't played a good team yet.
00:20:41
So I don't see a situation where this could be put on Peterson because he's just not performing.
00:20:47
Yeah, I just my thing is like armor after watching it.
00:20:50
I didn't watch the first game because I figured like I have watched another games instead.
00:20:54
So I tried to watch it.
00:20:55
He goes, I'm Carson wins fan like I've been a fan of his since NBS you.
00:20:58
I like the way he plays.
00:21:00
I like it.
00:21:01
It's hard.
00:21:02
Grind the side of water that goes in the past two games and you'll see flashes.
00:21:05
The old Carson was like one place you seem like, make like a decent throw or make a decent play the next play.
00:21:10
He was like absolute garbage.
00:21:11
So at that point, this guy to play calling, In my opinion, because in the NFL coaching football, in general, coaching is just so big.
00:21:19
You have to have a good culture, makes the great play calls at the right time because like it's always like a chess game, like we had to figure out how to use the right pieces in the right way.
00:21:28
So so once his injury prone we.
00:21:33
We all know this because I have.
00:21:36
The question I have is you got a coach who is out Coach Belichick on one hand.
00:21:42
On the other hand, you have Carson once who we know can't stay healthy.
00:21:47
He has shown us he can't beat bad teams.
00:21:50
He's never virtually played in the playoffs, so we don't know how that would work.
00:21:55
Um, and Russell Wilson, if once is so bad right now, the Russell was gonna throw 46 straight interceptions and still have a better passer rating.
00:22:06
I'm just looking at this guy.
00:22:08
I think he could be good.
00:22:09
Do you have a guy that's injury prone? When you have a guy that has not shown, he can show up in the playoffs at all? And you have? It's either him or the coach was one of the Super Bowl with the quarterback who can beat mixed Robiskie in a quarterback race.
00:22:22
I really don't see how this the discussion.
00:22:26
Yeah.
00:22:27
So my thing is, So you're saying Peterson just safe to go like So you're you're picking the coach over $110 million quarterback.
00:22:34
That's what you're saying? Yeah.
00:22:36
I mean, this Corvette can stay healthy either as much money you're paying and that you're gonna go out just okay.
00:22:42
Like I thought.
00:22:43
I mean, it's not your money, I guess, but the same time, So are you saying what do you start? Jailer hurts over once.
00:22:51
I mean, we'll see.
00:22:54
We'll see.
00:22:56
Because the NFC East is trash.
00:22:58
But you've got to make a decision right now because once makes a lot of money. Awesome.
00:23:03
Get him off the books.
00:23:05
If you're not gonna pick him, get him off the books, right? Somebody will take him.
00:23:08
Um, if you're going to rebuild, embrace the rebuilding, going to pick one's pick once.
00:23:12
But you gotta pick one or the other.
00:23:15
Okay.
00:23:16
Would you start hurt? So I'm asking, like you What do you started? It depends, e.
00:23:23
I don't mean this to be a cop out. Answer. But it depends.
00:23:25
Uh, how do you want to use hurts if you want to use him as a passer like Joe Burrow? I don't think so.
00:23:30
I don't think he has enough experience.
00:23:32
I don't think he has enough time underneath.
00:23:35
You know, the quarterback leading the way you want to use them is like an option threat.
00:23:39
Like a tasting hill.
00:23:40
Go right ahead.
00:23:41
Because that really other than possible injuries hasn't really injured quarterbacks and hurt quarterbacks in the path of their development.
00:23:48
So I think they just got to choose one or the other quick, before they really early on, Like, went like like he was a great option quarterback.
00:23:54
So that's how the eagles play for a while.
00:23:56
Like they played a great, like, kind of like mobile, like on the fly option.
00:23:59
They kinda went away from because of injuries and stuff so they could go back to that.
00:24:03
I mean, there were some rumors about trading blends for Philip Rivers because, like you be reunited with his office, according that he wants almost one of BP with you say that could be a really good, like kind of match or coaching and player and, like, maybe filled up and gets amount of filled rivers because you're just looking, like decent this year or so something that could possibly consider.
00:24:23
But we'll see him.
00:24:25
What do you make that trade, Philip Rivers for once? No, no, we're just too old.
00:24:31
Um, he makes decisions, like at the same time they get personally on the line, so he could like, kind of nurture hurts into that role.
00:24:38
So true, I I just don't know what you're gonna accomplish with that because they're trying to make the playoffs because, I mean, you have the injury book that won't leave you alone, and you're not gonna win Or do you go for a good pick? Um e mean, if the eagles just either way, you know, you're saying once I'm saying Peterson for who needs to stay either way any Vega decision because you're the only game back.
00:25:03
But that's dangerous at their game back.
00:25:06
Because if they think they have a chance and they go for it and they don't make the playoffs, well, now you don't make the playoffs, you don't have a good pick and you're stuck in your stuck in limbo back at ground ground.
00:25:16
You know, Step one.
00:25:17
So you just see what they dio do.
00:25:21
You know what? They play this upcoming week By chance, I could look it up if you don't.
00:25:25
Um I don't on the top, my head, actually not who looked at next week.
00:25:30
Let's see.
00:25:31
Philadelphia Eagles.
00:25:34
They will play at San Francisco 40 Niners.
00:25:43
Uh, you could bounce back, E.
00:25:45
I mean, like, they're very injury prone and stuff.
00:25:48
So, yeah.
00:25:51
Now, one weird thing I saw become ESPN today, they're saying that none of the second best chance of winning the NFC I don't know how that's even like discussion.
00:26:00
Like I don't know how ESPN can say that.
00:26:02
I mean, no sense of me both, uh, Thomas? No, they're not. Second.
00:26:08
They're up there. They're not Second, though.
00:26:10
Um, So we will go 22 issues that I cannot way to talk about.
00:26:17
Sunday night, Green Bay Packers went into New Orleans.
00:26:21
You know, there was no fans there, but they got the victory 37 30 and my take away from this game.
00:26:33
I'm gonna catch flak for this, But listen closely.
00:26:36
What I'm saying compared compared to where he waas, you know, M v p.
00:26:43
You know Drew Brees, quarterback for the Saints compared to where he waas Drew Brees is a washed up quarterback.
00:26:53
At this point, he's an average quarterback at best.
00:26:59
Thoughts.
00:27:03
Yeah, I just don't think so. I just don't agree.
00:27:05
I mean, like, right now you're the number one option is gone.
00:27:08
So, like Michael Thomas, like, he's been nailing him pretty much all this time, So I just think that's a huge loss for him.
00:27:16
I mean, he's gonna like him a lot the past two seasons, like I just have the office has been set up, but now I don't think that's right, because I think part of that is coaching to again, because I think Coach is really big on the phone because I've watched the Packers game.
00:27:28
There was all about tomorrow.
00:27:29
I was just there throwing a car every time, kind of focus off all about him, like me to spread it out more.
00:27:34
So I just don't like the offense, so I don't think it brings it all.
00:27:38
I think he's still the same level despite him being 40 40 years old.
00:27:42
I know. Yeah, he's up there.
00:27:43
But the same time, like me Washington play, I don't know.
00:27:46
It's any drop off.
00:27:47
I don't know if any kind of cliff or anything like you still playing the same level, making very hard decisions.
00:27:51
He's not throwing picks or anything, so I just disagree.
00:27:55
Like, you know, he's out his number. One option.
00:28:00
He is.
00:28:01
Eso is Aaron Rodgers, and Aaron Rodgers has less pieces around him.
00:28:05
Um, which and then he played out of his mind.
00:28:09
Um, but you brought up Sean Payton in the coaching and it revolving around Kambara.
00:28:15
Sean Payton's won a Super Bowl.
00:28:17
It's not the tell all Bill, but he is.
00:28:18
He knows what he's doing.
00:28:19
He still has a job.
00:28:20
He's consistently good.
00:28:22
You don t gate.
00:28:24
But that's just the starting point.
00:28:27
I know that still hurts, but hey, Sean Payton isn't dumb.
00:28:31
You call it a lot of things, but he is not dumb.
00:28:34
I took the Camara thing the other way.
00:28:36
I look at it and I said, Sean Payton loves Drew.
00:28:40
Brees is often opened up the field.
00:28:43
Him not taking any deep shots with Drew Brees tells me that Sean Payton doesn't trust him to throw deep.
00:28:50
I mean, it's easy to play against a team that can just do screens and short passes.
00:28:56
Easy to play a team like that.
00:28:58
He knew the Packers were coming into town and he knows that That's not going to get you very much.
00:29:03
But he still played that way, which is why I'm looking at this and saying, I don't think Sean Payton believes in his deep arm accuracy.
00:29:11
No, I don't think he's.
00:29:13
He can't throw deep all to save his life, but compared to what he was, they didn't take any chances.
00:29:18
Um, and like I said before a Rod, I mean, he is against the Vikings and Lions drops all over the board and you look at the Saints.
00:29:28
They got Emmanuel Sanders, Super Bowl player Jared Cook, good caliber, tight end.
00:29:34
They got a lot of gadget plays with hail trick on Smith.
00:29:37
They have better pieces, and I don't think Sean Payton is dumb enough to just do the science and expect the one.
00:29:44
I think he knows.
00:29:46
That's all Drew Brees can do right now.
00:29:50
Yeah, I just think with many standards of Yeah, they have a pace pieces.
00:29:54
So I think like like part of visits coaching at the same time.
00:29:58
Last game.
00:29:59
Mr Packer's I mean breezy through for 288 yards and roster for 2 83 it has more yards.
00:30:05
They both threw three TDs and recently in completed seven passes.
00:30:09
You 3 29 36.
00:30:11
So the same time, like he's he's pretty much right up there. Aaron Rodgers.
00:30:15
He really waas drop scored 30 points is the offense.
00:30:18
So there are really neck was most court game because neck and neck.
00:30:22
So that's kind of the same level.
00:30:23
So I didn't know any kind of big kind of glad you brought that up.
00:30:28
Let Z let's look closer.
00:30:30
Drew Brees, Week one.
00:30:31
Tampa Bay is the same offense.
00:30:33
Tampa Bay's run defense, first in the year passing defense last year was dead last 18 for 3160 yards.
00:30:39
Two touchdowns because the Wednesday 100 60 yards, two touchdowns, 60% completion percentage.
00:30:45
Not terrible.
00:30:47
Now what we expect from Drew Brees.
00:30:50
Take out the 1 46 yard pass and granted, you could take out any place from any quarterback.
00:30:54
Take out that one play just one.
00:30:57
His stat line is now 17 for 29 114 years, 6.
00:31:02
7 yards per completion.
00:31:04
This isn't in the air.
00:31:06
This is total.
00:31:07
Every past gets 6.
00:31:08
7 yards Week to decision making. Bad.
00:31:12
Questionable interception.
00:31:13
Lose by 10 to a horrible Las Vegas defense.
00:31:17
Rene.
00:31:18
Look a Week three against Green Bay.
00:31:19
Take out the final drive and here's why.
00:31:21
I say take out the final drive because the game was over at that point.
00:31:23
I think we both agree 1 30 left down.
00:31:26
10 gives virtually over and the 52 yard screen pass and I say, Take that out.
00:31:32
Why? Because that was That was the one yard pass The Packers just suck to tackling.
00:31:37
You could bolt it down that, you know, take out the Packers Thio, take out the Packers playing, prevent defense and take out them not being able to tackle 23 completions, 177 yards, 7.
00:31:52
7 yards for completion.
00:31:54
That's better.
00:31:55
But per completion on average, it's short pass, short pass, short pass short past your past.
00:32:01
They're not taking shots with them, and that's all he can do.
00:32:05
And that's all he's shown he can do against three defense is that they're not going to be hard to see faces.
00:32:12
So Drew Brees.
00:32:13
Hey, his completion percentage might be fantastic, but if he's not throwing the deep ball, if he's if he's throwing six yard completions, well, yeah, I should be getting, you know, that high completion percentage? Yeah, I don't know.
00:32:28
I mean, like, if that's the case, I don't know what a more quarterbacks do that.
00:32:32
Then we're like, What's accurate? They throw a short passes stuff.
00:32:34
How come, like you don't have, like, a lot of like the cars that once that you just brought up or they can know how come they don't do that kind of boosted their complete percentages.
00:32:41
You could just do that well, because that's not how you win games.
00:32:45
And I think that it brings it back to Sean Payton again.
00:32:48
I think he knows that this can't win games.
00:32:50
But I think he knows at the same time that this is the only way he can compete in games because they have Camara, who is, uh, this year been the best running back in the league.
00:32:58
Um, maybe Erin Jones, But I'd still say Camara by by a decent amount.
00:33:03
Um, I think he knows that their team is good enough to be able to beat some decent teams this way.
00:33:10
Um, but they're not good enough to beat everybody this way so they can get away with it because they have the talent.
00:33:15
But, you know, I just don't see him having ability because Sean Payton, we all know he loves Drew Brees.
00:33:23
You have confidence? Um, yeah.
00:33:26
I mean, like, they've been together so long.
00:33:28
So So, like, they have a great relationship.
00:33:29
So we kind of just kind of see how it plays out.
00:33:32
Do you? How long Michael towns out for, like, is it like, four weeks? It will be interesting.
00:33:37
Um, Michael Thomas.
00:33:40
It looks like he will definitely be out.
00:33:43
Um, probably this next week. It's questionable.
00:33:49
Um, they have said they did say the week leading to the Packer game, which was right after the injury, that he was progressing better than normal.
00:33:57
Um, when I brought up into my streams of Fleury sports, um, that I'm on, everyone's in Friday.
00:34:03
You don't know. Check out flair, sports, live streams.
00:34:06
Um, they don't wanna be cautious with him.
00:34:09
They haven't wanted to record their schedule.
00:34:11
Isn't really that tough coming up.
00:34:12
So even if he's good for next week, I still think they arrest him because they also have an earlier by a swell.
00:34:20
Um, but we'll see.
00:34:22
I mean, if they lose week four.
00:34:24
Got to think about putting them in early two.
00:34:27
Yeah.
00:34:28
So there's everything they gotta watch for.
00:34:30
So we'll see the stance ago.
00:34:33
I think they'll be fine.
00:34:34
I think they'll get it together, so we'll just see how it goes.
00:34:38
They do play the Lions this Sunday lion just beat Arizona.
00:34:43
But still, I think that's more of fluke than I think.
00:34:46
Colin Murray.
00:34:48
Three pigs use my M v P.
00:34:50
Pick. You better get.
00:34:53
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:34:57
Charges could be a tough game.
00:34:59
Then they play panthers down.
00:35:00
McCaffrey bears that it gets a little tougher but he'll be back by then.
00:35:04
We're going to stick on this game.
00:35:08
We're gonna go to the Green Bay Packers.
00:35:10
Uh, I have heard that you have a very interesting opinion about these three. No packers.
00:35:15
Um, possibly being overrated.
00:35:17
Is that true? Yeah, absolutely.
00:35:20
Especially the media right now, because one of the annals of Fox Sports one.
00:35:27
His name is Brandon Marshall.
00:35:28
She said, This office is possibly could be the best office ever.
00:35:32
And that was just like they're going way way too far. This.
00:35:37
Like I said, the Packers the third best opposite the league at best.
00:35:40
I said 33 at best, So that would be the best in the league this year.
00:35:43
So I said, third at the best.
00:35:45
I just think, like is overrated, I think.
00:35:47
Game one against the Vikings, A team like the quarterbacks, rookies, first NFL game ever with no pre season.
00:35:53
So that so no kind of gang praise or anything.
00:35:56
Just first NFL games throw him out there because Aaron Rodgers like, if I was a rookie, I'll be terrified of like what is going on? So you just way too smart, so I'm just like, OK, Game two.
00:36:05
It was not the lion mind even think.
00:36:07
Nothing let Mr Travis key comeback in the fourth quarter.
00:36:11
So look at your biscuits and he's got back.
00:36:14
So you got that e mean Callin Murray, But the same time he's a young player, that he's gonna make mistakes like you probably like the Lions that you so like.
00:36:23
I'm not worried about that game.
00:36:24
So Mr Risky, like Tourist Alliance in the fourth quarter's.
00:36:28
That's just so they're not nothing.
00:36:30
So I just think at the same time and the things that things defense like the corner, it's okay.
00:36:35
Like it's not like up there, but like like move around to keep us focused.
00:36:39
Team narrowly passing as much.
00:36:41
So I just had the same time like I don't see the best options ever, so I just haven't seen it yet.
00:36:49
I said that the third best opposite league this year at best.
00:36:52
Let me let me let me hit you with with some stats here, 462 yards per game, second NFL one a half of those without Davante Adams fifth and pass yards per game, second and rust yards per game.
00:37:08
Very balanced offense again.
00:37:10
1.
00:37:11
5 without Davante 14th in yards allowed.
00:37:14
Not too bad, Nice and *** tied for fifth and turnover differential.
00:37:19
No giveaways.
00:37:21
And all this is with all these drops.
00:37:24
We have seen Stern Burger make drop after drop.
00:37:26
We have seen Marcas Walda Scantlin.
00:37:29
He cannot catch a ball to save his life.
00:37:31
Devante is not there.
00:37:33
Alma's aren't We saw him step up.
00:37:34
Holy smokes.
00:37:37
These guys are dropping.
00:37:40
Oh, so many balls and they're still putting up these stats.
00:37:44
And I know you're going to say they played, you know, Detroit.
00:37:47
They played Minnesota.
00:37:48
They played New Orleans.
00:37:50
Look at the other undefeated teams.
00:37:52
Buffalo has played the Jets, Miami, the Rams.
00:37:56
Nothing pops out.
00:37:57
Pittsburgh, Houston, Aaron, Donald.
00:38:00
That game they gave, they gave up 35 though they have 35 of the Bills and the Bills, the Bills without a collapse that would have easily won.
00:38:09
It's like I said.
00:38:10
Giants.
00:38:11
Denver, Houston, Tennessee.
00:38:13
They've eked out wins over Denver, Jacksonville, Minnesota, Chicago Giants, Detroit, Atlanta You'll know about Atlanta, Seattle in Kansas City, where the only teams with more impressive resume and again we are looking at three games, 1.
00:38:29
5 without Davante near one of the top five teams in NFL.
00:38:35
If not should be top three when Davante comes back.
00:38:39
And remember, this team isn't at their full capacity yet.
00:38:42
This team granted best office all the time.
00:38:45
I will agree with you. That is a ridiculous statement.
00:38:47
But that softens the league.
00:38:50
Obviously, you gotta put the Chiefs up there.
00:38:53
Yeah, she's last night. There are unreal.
00:38:55
You told me he had a TV last night, you know, alive in 15 touchdowns.
00:39:01
Look, cheese turn really got to put the cheese first.
00:39:03
But Seattle's three, you know.
00:39:06
But we saw them do the same thing last year, and then they got to the playoffs.
00:39:10
The Packers just blitz Russell's and we saw they had nothing but him.
00:39:13
So I'm looking at the stats and looking at who the other teams have played.
00:39:17
I think, if anything, you could argue their little underrated because their defense is better than last year.
00:39:24
The defense is better.
00:39:25
Yeah, so, like so So they're opposite league where we rank of it.
00:39:28
So she says, second, behind the cheese.
00:39:30
Is that what you're saying? Okay.
00:39:35
Probably after seeing Lamar Jackson struggle to throw the ball.
00:39:40
Granted, there were a lot of drops.
00:39:42
I think they had five, but on the deep balls he was not didn't have any semblance of accuracy on.
00:39:48
But the chief's defense that is good, not great.
00:39:50
I'll put him second, would easily put him second.
00:39:53
Yeah, so for me personally, I'm like So I'll put the cheese over him and I'll put asking Dallas over them.
00:39:59
I think that was more firepower.
00:40:00
You got executive Elliott running the ball that Prescott Heathrow.
00:40:03
Ah, lot of passing yards out there.
00:40:05
So he's living a football and crazies.
00:40:07
Their office is way up there, too.
00:40:09
They got old receiver weapons and stuff in Dallas, so you can sleep on them at all.
00:40:13
And then you have Seattle think Seattle's off there, too.
00:40:16
So, like, I think Seattle Packers about the same offense.
00:40:18
That's why I said, like Packers by third at best.
00:40:20
But yeah, I put doubts over like I think that's got all those weapons.
00:40:25
He's got no problem with Dallas.
00:40:27
The problem with Dallas is two words, and those words are Mike McCarthy.
00:40:33
This team is one and two.
00:40:35
They have arguably the best top through water drivers in the league.
00:40:39
I would argue it's not really even arguable.
00:40:41
Gallop and Cooper put up 1000 yards last year.
00:40:44
See, the lamb is better than Gallup this year. So far.
00:40:47
Um, Prescott is good.
00:40:49
Elliott good.
00:40:50
Often the line is good.
00:40:51
There's still one and two they're still wanted to, so I don't see how you can take a team that's one and two.
00:40:56
Granted, they played the ramps, but they could only put up 20 on the Rams.
00:40:59
Or they eat or the Bills put up 37.
00:41:02
Um, they played the Seahawks.
00:41:03
Put up a good amount of points, but the Seahawks are injured.
00:41:07
Um, how does it for you? And then the Falcons have no defense.
00:41:14
I'd like to see them play a good team, and, like I said, Mike McCarthy, he just can't make good decisions on offense.
00:41:21
Um, and you know, you talked about Detroit appropriate Arizona.
00:41:26
Minnesota lost the Tennessee by only one.
00:41:30
Um, New Orleans made Brady look bad and beat them by 11.
00:41:33
These aren't scrubs, and they're beating them and they're beating them bad.
00:41:38
They've beaten the spread three times.
00:41:42
Yeah, so I mean, those are all valid points.
00:41:44
I mean, we'll see that person pretty progressive.
00:41:47
So, like, I mean, looking at dead President Prescott this year like he's throwing a lot of passing yards, probably the league in passing yards and get once again.
00:41:54
Honestly, they have Russell Wilson M V P caliber year.
00:41:57
Like generally dynamic offense like you through five TDs last game, I believe.
00:42:01
So.
00:42:02
Is there a lot of P T V? A lot of the dynamics in the offense, So we'll see the season progresses.
00:42:07
Yeah, so I mean, as it right now.
00:42:09
Like I said, Packer the third best offense at best.
00:42:13
But, yeah, that happens all the time.
00:42:16
That's 90 of the conversation.
00:42:17
I think we both can agree with that.
00:42:19
Yeah, and I mean, you look at the Packers schedule coming up Monday night football against the Falcons.
00:42:26
They might drop 50 points.
00:42:28
Um, Buccaneers.
00:42:30
That'll be a challenge.
00:42:31
Texans, Vikings, um, and so on.
00:42:34
So on.
00:42:35
So we'll see how that goes.
00:42:36
Probably biggest test will be Buccaneers won't really learn much against the Falcons, unless somehow there often is completely inept.
00:42:43
Um, but I do have a question via Twitter.
00:42:48
Um, Then it was after seeing how Jacksonville fared without chart against Miami.
00:42:56
Is chart the key to this offense or does this often still run through Gardner Mitchell? Um, I think all this stuff garden mystery for now, I would say, Yeah, I mean, like, he's probably the only young, like talent they have right now, so I would say I'd probably go guard the mission for now.
00:43:15
So, like I'm missing enough from sharks, so we'll see.
00:43:20
Well, what do you say? It's tough, I think.
00:43:24
First of all, James Robinson looked absolutely fantastic.
00:43:28
Hey, looked like a true running back one.
00:43:30
He looked like the next lender for net.
00:43:32
He's not Fat asked, but he's shifting.
00:43:35
He can run you over.
00:43:36
Um, offense line didn't give him into any time.
00:43:40
Then she wasn't great, but he also have a lot of time to throw.
00:43:43
Um, that's not something that cjh Arc is gonna fix as a wide receiver.
00:43:48
Maybe that has to do with confidence, but they got smacked pretty badly.
00:43:53
I don't see that happening.
00:43:56
Um, we will look forward, though, you know, just the one game.
00:44:00
It's gonna be a very interesting game.
00:44:03
Thursday Night Football week four.
00:44:07
Oh, boy.
00:44:08
Are you gonna watch this game? It is the Denver Broncos at the New York Jets.
00:44:12
Denver Broncos will be going to the third string quarterback.
00:44:15
Obviously, like us hurt.
00:44:16
Um, Driscoll there benching for rye prion.
00:44:20
I believe in pronouncing it right or even gonna watch this game.
00:44:23
Who's gonna win? Do you think is even worth it? I mean, like, I would say, Probably worth watching me.
00:44:30
I'll probably pick attic.
00:44:31
I mean, I'm just sports junkie personally.
00:44:33
Stop by, pick out and watch some, but yeah, I would take another minute.
00:44:37
Weird kind of Thursday night matchup.
00:44:39
I don't know.
00:44:40
I think that for this and that's kind of weird matchup.
00:44:42
Broncos, That's both are really going anywhere. Yeah.
00:44:47
If anything, Bronco, they should sign Kaepernick because, I don't know, the quarterback even is right now.
00:44:50
I could have been I haven't even their quarterback like you.
00:44:53
Probably at least in the look, right? Print guy.
00:44:57
I mean, how do you take a look at leave? Uh, yeah, Well, yeah, I mean, a over under his 40.
00:45:10
That adds up. Pretty bad game.
00:45:13
Jets don't even average 300 yards of offense.
00:45:16
Broncos under 3 25.
00:45:18
Somebody's gonna get their first one.
00:45:20
I don't think it matters.
00:45:21
I don't think anybody's gonna care, especially with the movie playoffs.
00:45:24
Uh huh.
00:45:25
But any last final thoughts on any of the sports postseason baseball start now before we sign off.
00:45:33
Yeah, so I would just say like, I'm still thinking I'm still thinking about White Sox versus Dodgers pick.
00:45:39
White Sox were kind of slumping going in, But why is it that they look great today against the against the A, So I like them a lot.
00:45:46
Also, shout out the Tampa Bay congratulations with the way Stanley Cup.
00:45:49
Yeah, I watched that game last night.
00:45:52
The paper Police are hockey throughout, so shout out to them and yes, so we'll see.
00:45:58
I mean, Vikings.
00:45:59
I don't think it's over yet, so I mean, like, Oh, and three is tough.
00:46:02
But I think they could bounce back then they had.
00:46:03
The town would do it like what we've seen from them so simply in the Vikings, and we'll see from there.
00:46:09
And I think, and the final should be interesting starts tomorrow night on the one last thing.
00:46:15
One last thing is tonight's presidential debate side the stay.
00:46:18
Just go. Vote. Make sure you registered.
00:46:20
Just make sure.
00:46:21
Make sure all good to go to the But there is a big day.
00:46:24
Make sure you vote early.
00:46:26
That's really big.
00:46:27
Really important.
00:46:28
I'm pretty sure heard 1000 times, but you gotta sit on our platforms for those who have missed it.
00:46:34
White Sox be of athletics.
00:46:35
4 to 1.
00:46:36
Astros beat the Twins, 4 to 1.
00:46:38
Yankees.
00:46:39
They're currently up to two.
00:46:40
Nothing up into two and the razor up.
00:46:41
Three.
00:46:42
Nothing over the Blue Jays top the eighth.
00:46:43
Um, I will sign off by saying the Brewers play the Dodgers tomorrow and the crew in two crews going to sweep the Dodgers.
00:46:54
So without that again, if you're watching live, thanks for tuning in.
00:46:58
If you're catching the replay, feel free to tweet at either me or Chris on.
00:47:03
You guys.
00:47:04
Have a great night.
00:47:05
We'll see you again Saturday for Episode three of Reasonable Doubt.
00:47:08
Have a good one

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