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00:00:02
All right, everybody.
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I could never tell if it's it's actually going on this when it's stuck on with one right here.
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So I'm gonna hold for one minute.
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All right? Now, I know we Air Force your live.
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Welcome back, everybody.
00:00:15
The SportsCastr News.
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It's your host, Matt Brooks, with my good friend and co host, Adam are Brecht.
00:00:21
Adam, how are you doing on this lovely morning? Um, are you getting ready for the finals? And we have a nice couple of days to spy.
00:00:29
Fully prepare ourselves? Yeah, for sure.
00:00:32
And listen, first and foremost, friend, Love that.
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Start out with friend, and then we worry about co host afterwards.
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That's that's where West, where we built this relationship to at this point, s e a certain point, you just have to accept it, whether we wanted it or not.
00:00:52
This is what we are now.
00:00:54
Um, no Great ahead of you, man.
00:00:57
This has been I think we've had so many conversations around the playoffs, and it seems like you and I were in agreement around the Lakers.
00:01:04
They seem to be what was going to be waiting for.
00:01:07
Whoever came out of the east, but Miami.
00:01:10
It's me a while at least to come around because they were winning some of those early Siri's, especially in line with the Pacers, and they're missing guys.
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Then you get to the Boston Siri's, and that's where I thought.
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Okay, here comes the real battle that we thought Miami would face.
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And then that's kind of not really that big of a battle.
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And they get through that with relative ease.
00:01:27
So adjusting to Miami being as strong as they have been in the playoffs, that was the hardest thing for me to kind of wrap my head wrap.
00:01:35
Yeah, I'm still I still don't think there like I mean, I think they're good, but I still don't quite understand it.
00:01:41
Like there's like a lot of me that's still so like, tied to these traditionalist morals of basketball, where it's like you need the star player that scores twenty six points and you need, um, you know, ah, bunch of exciting wings and all this stuff and it's like, No, their best player is actually a rim running center and on there, and they're led by a thirty four thirty five year old Goran Dragic.
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For most of the game.
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They have Jimmy Butler closing games.
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I mean, I've just I've never really seen a team like them, to be honest with you.
00:02:16
Well, and it's a weird It's a weird.
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But I talked about this with Keith, about the Boston Heat, Siri's and saying, When you came into that, even when you came to the playoffs, you knew exactly what you were getting with Boston.
00:02:28
You know, now you you have Hayward.
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They're coming back from an injury.
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That's fine.
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But you know Kemba Walker, and you know Tatum, you know smart.
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You know Brown and go.
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Yeah, these are guys.
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These are the guys that need to win or lose this for us for Miami when you turn around and now you talk about Bam Auto Bio joining Shaquille O'Neal, LeBron James and Dwyane Wade as three Onley members in Miami Heat franchise history to go for thirty, ten and five, you have you have a hero breaking Dwayne Wade's rookie record in the playoffs for scoring.
00:02:54
So you have these kind of they're not unknown.
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It's like we didn't know these players in the regular season, but you didn't know what they were gonna be in the playoffs, and for a lot of them they've been elevating their game, and that changes how you feel about it and it.
00:03:06
And it makes it interesting to me because to your point about traditional right, who's the guy that's going to be the big point score and who's also gonna have the ball in his hands at the end of the game like that's usually the same one in the same.
00:03:18
But for Miami, they've got this rial for about eight minutes.
00:03:22
Why don't you be the man, bam on a bio? Why don't you pick it up here and do your thing for a stretch? Jimmy Butler.
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Maybe I Maybe I won't really be hands on impacting the game for a pretty big stretch.
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And then when it when it when it really dials up, I'll step in and try to knock down some of those big shots or make the big plays whatever they may look like.
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So it's a different model.
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It's a different model than we've seen for a long time in the n B A, especially when it comes to finals match ups and you look across and you see LeBron James and Anthony Davis.
00:03:49
Yeah, those are the guys, you know, those those The two big main guys that you expect a team toe have going into a championship.
00:03:55
Yeah, it's funny.
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They're kind of like a I don't know.
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They're like a baseball team.
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Was like a really deep bullpen.
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Like they're Sometimes they'll have their like, starting pitcher room, right? Go for, like, three innings.
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I don't know. I don't know if that's fully accurate.
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I'm not a huge baseball guy.
00:04:09
Uh, but it is kind of like that could have been totally false.
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Somebody who's probably Keith is gonna be like, Dude, that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
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Like nobody actually plays baseball.
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But why would you use a baseball reference body Come on like, don't do that again.
00:04:24
Like stick to basketball dio.
00:04:27
No, but I mean, uh, that's kind of that's kind of how I see them like they're they some games they'll go seven innings with with the Jimmy Butler.
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Or sometimes they'll even run off like Goran Dragic, who wouldn't even be a starting pitcher and another and another team.
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But it works well for them, like he just has his his games where he's able to create some space.
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So they're interesting like that again, I just because they're so different, I almost find myself gravitating to them.
00:04:55
Ah, lot in this finals.
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And that's actually against, like, ah Lakers team that I find to be pretty endearing.
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I much like you with the heat.
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I've Ah, I've been a little bit more of a Lakers Doubter throughout pretty much, you know, especially preseason.
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I just didn't like the roster that much.
00:05:14
I think you like Anthony Davis and LeBron, but outside of that, you have a lot of question marks.
00:05:19
I had the Clippers over them for pretty much the entire season I picked, I think Houston and round two against them.
00:05:26
Andi.
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I kind of figured that the Clippers wouldn't blow it against the Nuggets in advance to the conference finals and beat them now.
00:05:33
Had they had they actually won in that Game six or even that Game seven.
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I actually don't know if I would have picked them because they looked so rocky against the Nuggets, but you know, throughout this entire journey, they they've actually impressed me quite a bit and another team that isn't necessarily built conventionally.
00:05:49
It's a team that sp**** on shooting.
00:05:51
It's a team with a you know, a LeBron who is a total wrecking ball but isn't necessarily a shooter.
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And Anthony Davis, who's, let's be honest, a center.
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And we were coming off years and years and years of where you can't even play a center in the n b A finals, much less, you know, have a center.
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Be one of your best players.
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I mean, they're interesting to.
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It's just kind of showing you like, hey, without the Warriors, um, basketball basketball could be pretty unique, and I think that's a really good thing.
00:06:24
So, yes, shots of the warrior shots fired Warriors.
00:06:30
How dare you be injured? Your entire roster be injured this year s O in that regard? Because I said this E said this to Keith, and we don't have to get too deep on what the Nuggets or even with the Celtics necessarily.
00:06:42
But I remember you and I had the conversation where the big problem for the Celtics is.
00:06:46
Their center position is a relative non factor for them.
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It just in terms of really impacting the game.
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When you look over at the Joker and what he could dio that that ability, that court vision and passing out of the five is what gives you the ability and the option to say, If I we don't need to be, I want to be a shooting and stretch the perimeter.
00:07:06
I don't need to be Brook Lopez, you know, and be shooting threes, even though Joker can do it at times.
00:07:11
But if I could get down into the paint and draw the attention of defense and then do traditional big get down in the low post, then kick outside person Easy looks.
00:07:18
That's how you start to impact games in a different way than we've seen for a long time now. And it's weird.
00:07:24
Maybe your point, because bam auto bio is another guy like this Right now.
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He's a forty two five, four or five, you know, somewhere he's somewhere in there.
00:07:31
But his athleticism and in a different way that he impacts the game, eliminates the need of saying, Well, you're not the biggest guy in the world.
00:07:40
So you're not just going in there and man handling everybody, and also we're not sticking on the perimeter to shoot threes.
00:07:45
but it forces a defense to adjust how they play you.
00:07:48
And I think maybe that's what we're seeing a lot of from Miami.
00:07:52
And then the Lakers have gone ultra big.
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They're having McGee and having what happened.
00:07:56
We saw the way Vogel utilize them in the last series to to really to beat up Joker and make him earn it.
00:08:01
Um, but you're seeing how coaching and we talked.
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We talked about it before to coaching place.
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Such a big factor is how how do you utilize the pieces you have? How do you choose to execute and force the other team to make the adjustments and going back to that Miami Boston Siri's.
00:08:15
We really saw it.
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I remember you saying right Spoelstra is was really kind of taking the to Brad Stevens.
00:08:20
It felt like in a lot of ways he knew all of the right moves to make all of the adjustments, and Stevens wasn't able to counter that.
00:08:27
So it's not just the player right, but also how you're using them to make it the most difficult matchup for the other team.
00:08:33
Yeah, I mean, Vogel did a great really, really great job, too.
00:08:36
I mean, I think that they had a lot of counters for what Malone was running in A lot of times.
00:08:41
Yeah, I think there was a talent disparity.
00:08:43
But, you know, Jamal Murray was in it like he was really, he was.
00:08:47
He was a superstar in these playoffs.
00:08:49
So, um, you know, it's funny you mentioned the the Celtics and the Nuggets, and I I don't know.
00:08:58
I think there's a really good chance that both of these teams would go to their conference finals again.
00:09:02
I really dio.
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I wouldn't be surprised all the way.
00:09:07
I think the Celtics we'll see what they do.
00:09:10
I think they probably just run it back with Gordon Hayward, and you're probably not going to trade him for anything that you really, really want more than than a healthy Gordon Hayward.
00:09:19
Don't really think that would be the move.
00:09:21
You you need a center, Um, you really dio You made that point and I like Daniel types, but you should probably come off the bench.
00:09:27
I don't think he's a starting center if you're trying to win playoff rounds and then the Nuggets are Aaron really great statement.
00:09:34
Another year of Michael Porter Jr Hopefully just figuring it out.
00:09:40
I think there were moments in these playoffs and he kind of had the normal rookie run and you also to remember he didn't really play this year.
00:09:48
So for a lot of these rookies, like you see Tyler hero and he's just going just bananas.
00:09:53
Well, he's actually played a full rookie season, and he's had almost what feels like an off season to sort of work on some things mentally.
00:10:01
Michael Porter Jr didn't play, so he's coming into this bubble and he just doesn't.
00:10:09
You know, he doesn't really know what he's doing all the way out there, so they'll be fun.
00:10:12
Um, and he's a huge X factor for them because if somebody points in that Lakers serious, it just felt like they could use another score.
00:10:20
And that's also would include Will Barton.
00:10:21
But it? Yeah, exactly.
00:10:25
Right.
00:10:26
And then sometimes I think it's easy also to forget some of these teams who they didn't have with them in the bubble and for the for the Denver Nuggets.
00:10:32
I really I thought that the grant was a really nice piece for them and and really is about both ends of the floor, right, obviously hitting some of those nice shots on the offensive then.
00:10:42
But he had a lot of great great defensive plays, and that's what really gets me.
00:10:45
I don't say they bullish because the Western Conference is obviously a gauntlet.
00:10:48
But I feel it's just like if you're the Denver Nuggets, you go.
00:10:50
Let's bring this thing right back.
00:10:51
We got young players, but you said you got Porter who need it needs these little more season like we feel great about what we did in the playoffs and about coming right back next year and feeling super confident for Boston.
00:11:01
I guess I do wonder a little bit about them because you go, boy, how are you going to deal like if it's not Thais coming off the bench, who you bring in ahead of them and then you're still in this weird ground off battling Miami Heat again? Bring it back even.
00:11:16
They don't do anything and you assume they probably will, even if they win the championship this year against the Lakers.
00:11:20
You got the Brooklyn that's coming back in and we know the Milwaukee Bucks like I just want it's weird.
00:11:26
I wouldn't have thought that I could have been less confident in Boston coming out of this, but because Miami beat out other teams because Milwaukee wasn't there, it seems like it should have been getting brighter and brighter for Boston over the course of the playoffs.
00:11:39
And instead it left me feeling a little bit like, Okay, you know what? What have you lost here? Unfortunately for Boston fans through losing Kyrie Irving bringing Kemba Walker? What does Kemba Walker not have that a Kyrie Irving in that role does? It's the pure scorers to take over the game in the fourth quarter mentality.
00:11:57
And if you don't have that, then the exposure at the five maybe becomes that much more glaring for that team.
00:12:02
I don't know how you collectively replace it now.
00:12:04
Maybe Gordon Hayward healthy and again the full season for him.
00:12:08
And what does that look like? But it just It's interesting for me when you look at that roster and wonder the next couple of years for them like this is it until you maybe draft successfully someone in the later round.
00:12:18
I don't see a free agent out there that they look to bring in to say, And this elevates us to a top two team in the Eastern Conference going into next season.
00:12:27
Yeah, I mean, the Kemba things tricky because he's thirty right now and the knee seems problematic.
00:12:35
I don't know if if it's a giant, you know, blaring red alarm there in Boston about his knee, but it just it doesn't feel like they've had him one hundred percent healthy since really January.
00:12:49
I don't know what the health was in, In, in, uh, you know, in in Orlando and especially in these playoffs, some games.
00:12:56
He looked great.
00:12:57
Other games, he didn't s Oh, I don't know what the deal is with that, but even so, I mean, I think you're looking at a guy with a knee that may or may not be, you know, fully healthy.
00:13:07
He's in year one of his contract, and we're already kind of having questions about Oh, is this really the guy you wanna have for these big moments? Um, I think that's a little bit of a cause for concern.
00:13:18
I think the Kemba Walker we're looking at in year one is going to be in a dramatically different role than what he's doing in your three now.
00:13:25
That might not matter, because I honestly think out of anything that I saw right now, and it feels weird to criticize him because he had such a great year.
00:13:32
But I thought Jason Tatum was really underwhelming in key moments for them, and I think that's gonna change.
00:13:38
What's from I mean, really, I think there's so much fret going on and Boston to the Celtics.
00:13:44
Twitter, um, losing their minds right now, like absolutely losing their minds.
00:13:48
And I'm like, Look, man, just let this guy like he's what? Twenty three, twenty two, twenty three? So you know, just let him figure things out.
00:13:57
He's still got to finish.
00:13:58
He's got to get better at the rim.
00:13:59
He has, like, no floater game, his at room finishing his not great.
00:14:04
I don't think he's great with both hands just yet, but you know, in his shot, selection could improve.
00:14:09
But he's really young, like these things are really good.
00:14:12
Losing in the playoffs like that is actually really good for a young player because they work on their game, so I wouldn't worry too much if I was them But I would be focused on improving the roster a little bit and just yet grabbing a center, maybe grabbing another shooter and and just seeing what what Tatum is going to do in the off season.
00:14:29
He has improved every single year, pretty much every single year except for the software seats.
00:14:33
But he was good this year.
00:14:36
So I want so will improve.
00:14:38
But yeah, no.
00:14:41
And it's trying its like I fall victim to like over ****yzing a player, like, say, twenty three years old.
00:14:46
Listen it maybe twenty five before you see the full formation of their game and and once they show a flash, though, then the expectation you're like, Well, you already show you showed us gave the taste.
00:14:56
Once you give us a taste, you got to give us the whole package.
00:14:58
You can't go ahead and wait another six months to the you know that next level of whatever your your game is gonna be.
00:15:05
That being said, though, one of the things that I look at now starting tomorrow with the finals matchup is Lakers heat.
00:15:13
You look at the heat you mentioned drag each, you mentioned hero and bam on a bio.
00:15:19
My question now is, though, and there's guys on both sides of this.
00:15:23
But so now you look at one of the best rapture ratings defensively and Anthony Davis Okay, you're gonna take on that bam out of bio assignment and we'll see if bam can overcome that matchup or at least fight it to a neutral right? If you're if you're the Miami Heat, you go the net neutral against Anthony Davis and we would love that.
00:15:40
Let's cancel him out.
00:15:41
But then I actually look at a guy like Caruso, and I think about his defensive a***en.
00:15:45
And what does that look like? Maybe if they say we know that hero has been this coming hot quote off the bench, but we've seen what a hot shooter has been in the playoffs.
00:15:54
Do you think that the Lakers have some of these role players and you throw Rondo into that mixes well, specifically, maybe at the guard positions where you say drag it hero.
00:16:03
We may be able to do some things here that really neutralize you, at least for stretches of the game, and and that may start toe, have things fall apart from Miami in terms of not having to rely on ah, Jimmy Butler for longer stretches than you want to or looking to **** auto bio and saying, Can you carry this load? Where do you Where do you see that? Some of those matchups from the, uh, Miami Heat side and still being effective offensively and still finding the rhythm? Yeah, I think that's a great point.
00:16:29
Like you look at the matchups and they're already kind of set in stone like you see bam out of bio how well he's playing.
00:16:34
It's, well, it's like, Well, he's going against You know, Anthony Davis and Dwight Howard, who's been really good really good for this last round and even throw a fair a little bit.
00:16:44
Um, so, I mean, you have that set in stone.
00:16:48
Then you have those two guards to pressure, um, to pressure, you know, a Tyler hero or Duncan Robinson.
00:16:55
If you want to do something like that, Alex Caruso is gonna be a guy that is, I think make a pretty big impact on those guys on Ben.
00:17:02
Even like Jimmy Butler.
00:17:03
Like you could put you put LeBron on him and give him that.
00:17:06
That assignment, or you could throw a Danny Green on him like, and I think that there's just so many.
00:17:11
It's just such a good defensive team, and they kinda have counters for pretty much everybody.
00:17:17
The one guy, I think it's funny, like the one team that or maybe two teams that they wouldn't have necessarily had counters for our, the Celtics and the Clippers just because of all the wing depth there.
00:17:29
I just you know, that's the one position that they might have not like.
00:17:32
It's a kind of a lot of toe ask for for somebody like LeBron James toe.
00:17:36
Just make him the primary Simon, especially with two wings.
00:17:39
But for this Heat team, yeah, it seems like they have the right guys on the floor.
00:17:43
The other thing that I like about this matchup for the Lakers outside of them, just having the two best players in the Siri's is this Miami team there.
00:17:53
They you know, they moved the ball very well.
00:17:56
They and and it's it's smart ball movement.
00:17:59
It's not like risky ball movement, but still, when there is a lot of ball movement, you are risking turning the ball over and this Lakers team is long, they're gonna make everything tougher.
00:18:08
They're gonna make it hard on a team that's very harmonious, like the Miami Heat.
00:18:13
So I worry about that a little bit for them.
00:18:16
I I don't know what that looks like, but I do worry about the turnover is a little bit especially early on.
00:18:24
Yeah, well, you mentioned Danny Green, a guy who we were talking about throughout the playoffs are going Boy, that offensive game doesn't really leave a lot to be desired, and that was never his big role.
00:18:33
But now, in a game like this, you get a serious like this.
00:18:35
You go and guess what? Don't worry about that, man.
00:18:37
Like you said, Just use your length on defense.
00:18:39
And if you could impact one of their key players great.
00:18:41
And And that and that may ultimately be how the Lakers have always looked at some of their secondary pieces on this roster, including, you know, including a JaVale McGee, right? Listen, buddy, at the end of the day, it's not going to be about what you're doing for us on both ends.
00:18:54
You just need to be a problem for bam out of bio when we throw you out there something like they did against Joker, right? Like, just be just be a problem here.
00:19:01
And Dwight Howard really looks phenomenal in that Siris.
00:19:03
In spite of in spite of me hating Dwight Howard, I don't know if it's I don't know if it's like his pristine white smile and the way he always has this.
00:19:09
Like, you know, hey has such a ****y look on his face, no matter what phase of his game he's been throughout his entire career.
00:19:17
Father, it bothers me to No, I know he is.
00:19:20
Yeah, I know it bothers me to no end like I'm like, do like you have been arguably one of the bigger disappointments in terms of what your career should have, should or could have been.
00:19:30
And yet you're still out there acting like you are the Anthony Davis or you are LeBron James, just in terms of personality and respect around the league.
00:19:38
Now that being said, I have to acknowledge that he was great last Siri's, and he may end up being a real X factor in this series.
00:19:44
So by when it's all said and done, he may end up getting a championship and Good Lord, wherever that man's ego goes from, there is anyone's guess.
00:19:51
But it's gonna be.
00:19:52
It's gonna be a heck of a time on social media if this guy, this guy, get to chip here in the finals.
00:19:58
Yeah, I mean and like, yeah, as you said, Like credit to him for for really becoming like he's just never been.
00:20:06
He's never really transitioned into that Ben Troll like he was what, five teams, four teams in his last couple of years.
00:20:14
And this year you just got it.
00:20:15
And it's funny because when you see him on the court, you think, Oh, this guy carries himself like a star Um, but I think he's used that ego to his advantage.
00:20:24
Now he's become the enforcer.
00:20:26
But, like in the Dwight Corny way, like the way where it's like, alright, Dwight, like right like, yeah, it's just it's very Dwight.
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So Z that's how I describe it.
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But, um, who's your X factor on each side? Well, you know what, E don't know if this is gonna end up seeming almost silly, but for the Lakers, you go back to the last Siri's you go back to that last stretch there in the close out game against the Denver Nuggets, and you saw that flash from LeBron James where it was.
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Hey, guess what? I can still do this thing. I may be.
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Can't do it for the full forty eight.
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But I can do this for stretches you mentioned about maybe putting him on Jimmy Butler and saying, Hey, take on this defensive assignment.
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And if you shut down Jimmy Butler, the ramifications there.
00:21:18
So for the Lakers side of it, I know this sounds incredibly silly and maybe sounds incredibly easy.
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But the way that LeBron approaches this Siri's and the way that he approaches the defensive matchup and then also offensively, he needs to come out Game one downhill bowl, attacking in the paint like really forcing the issue.
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I think that if he chooses to do that early and often, this Siri's could get away very quickly for for the Miami Heat, because we all know that LeBron can do that.
00:21:49
But over the bubble or even over the playoffs, you know that I don't care about the deferring to you, Anthony Davis.
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It makes total sense to do that.
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But I still have this wonder about what is the highest gear that LeBron can go Thio.
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And how long can he stay in fifth year over the course of the game? Because you may need that for stretches.
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So maybe that's cliche.
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That's easy.
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I looked at him for the Lakers and what that's going to be in these finals for Miami.
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I think you have to look at Obama on a bio for everything that he's done for them over the playoffs.
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For the for the impact he's had on both ends of the floor, how he's able Thio manage, taking on Anthony Davis and then getting JaVale McGee and getting Dwight Howard thrown at him.
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That's going to be to me those matchups.
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They're going to be the biggest factor.
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Because if the Lakers neutralized Bam out of bio, then then again, it's another.
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There's farm or areas where I go and then things could fall apart for Miami pretty quickly.
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But if he's not able to still have a high impact on a game to game basis and a consistent impact, then you're going to see Spoelstra.
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Maybe have Thio choose matchup moments right when a d comes off.
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That's when you go in and try to pick and choose those battles.
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So the way that on auto Bio goes to me is the way the Siri's is gonna go assed faras Miami's concerns.
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Yeah.
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I mean, the LeBron thing is interesting because he also to think about Is he gonna be gunning for finals? M v p like? Has he been saving the reason we have seen him, like, do the whole downhill go to the basket? Pressure the rim Every single minute is I just wonder if he's played this game for so long now.
00:23:30
He's been so good for so long that he even understands Hey, I have this guy and Anthony Davis who is just a ridiculous score.
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Um, I wonder, and it's gonna be interesting.
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Like, is there gonna be any company petition between those two to win finals? M. V P.
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If you can't tell, I think the Lakers were gonna win.
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I dio I just haven't seen, uh but yeah, I mean, I think it's gonna because what is Miami gonna do? That's gonna not That is not possible.
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But what would Miami What is the matchup from Miami to L. A.
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That they go.
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Oh, boy.
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Okay, How are we going to manage this? They have If hero goes off, it's not even.
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Yeah.
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Okay, so you're going off from three like that? That's gonna happen no matter what in the game.
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But there's not.
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And that's why you know, Auto bio to me is like, if all of a sudden it feels like the Lakers and Vogel's, they're going well, how are how are we managing this guy like he's just he's doing it to us, which I don't see happening consistently.
00:24:29
That's one of the Onley few ways that I can see it outside of maybe saying Jimmy Butler really starts to heat up from three is, he's randomly done over the course of the bubble in the playoffs, something he's not great at.
00:24:40
Like something new was gonna have to occur for Miami that we haven't seen from them.
00:24:45
For me to think the players, the depth, the defensive matchups, it all leans very heavily in the favor of the Lakers.
00:24:54
Yeah, I don't see it personally.
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I guess the big thing would have to be that zone defense like that's the only thing that they have to like this zone.
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Defense has to be the greatest defense we've ever seen. I like.
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I just I don't know.
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I don't necessarily see it as much.
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And I can tell you like I could tell you a counter that they have to the zone defense right away.
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If they just put Anthony Davis in the middle of the floor, that's gonna work their entire defense.
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So, um and and he's He's great from that position.
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Like it's like the Lakers were built, I think, almost to build the heat.
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E don't.
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It feels weird to say that, but it kind of does like and I don't know if I'm the only one thinking that way, but there is a part of me that sort of thinks it's not gonna be super competitive for that reason alone.
00:25:36
I'll tell you right now, I think my biggest X factor for either side, it's got to be Jae Crowder, right? Doesn't it have to be Jae Crowder e.
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I wanted to go low, wanted to go down the list a little bit that I always pick like the random like totally random guy that like, you know, it's just like they're probably just not very good, period.
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And that's probably why I picked them.
00:26:01
But Jae Crowder, I mean, dude, if you could get that that round one and two, Jae Crowder, you're you're smooth sailing.
00:26:11
Okay, But well, and that's why I would say, like, uh if, like, if I was gonna go low key, I'd say, Like, it's like, you know, for the Lakers, Rondo, like he has the ability to really take out a player for Miami, Just, you know, defensively and have this little run for you.
00:26:29
Doesn't matter what you do offensively like he's shown.
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I think he showed that little bit of right. I'm a veteran.
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I know the playoffs look like I have plenty of guys to carry the load offensively.
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And I had this little stretches where all of a sudden, like I dish out a handful of assists and all of a sudden I just get really up in a guy for a couple of key possessions, like by the way you talk about like X factors.
00:26:47
Sometimes it also like you're also talking about it coming down to at the end of the first half with thirty eight seconds to go.
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Miami is down by four or five points, and maybe Rondo gives you a really.
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Or Caruso gives you a great defensive possession where they strip somebody out front.
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And then it's a breakout and it gets to LeBron for an easy jam.
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And now it stretches it to seven or eight.
00:27:09
Going to the brake, right? Like those air.
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What your ex's only three or four plays that may sway how this goes.
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You know, if your Miami and you know you need to keep this thing tight, stay close all the way through.
00:27:20
Don't get don't fall behind where all of a sudden you need toe, work your way back into it where and I'll say on the other side of because we talked about this Lakers Not a great three point shooting team.
00:27:30
It's not a part of the repertoire.
00:27:31
If Miami gets out to those big leads, then you at least put this pressure on even a ten to twelve point lead. The pressure of L.
00:27:38
A.
00:27:39
Have to do things a little bit out of their normal plan to get back into it and get closer and get even and then return back to the method that they want to use more often than not.
00:27:47
So you know the opening gates here. And maybe that gets Crowder.
00:27:51
That's the X factor, as you say, because now you're talking about if he could be knocking down triples.
00:27:56
Now you're opening it up and you're saying hero and you've got Robinson and you've got drag it.
00:28:01
And you've got Crowder all guys that can hit it from the from the perimeter.
00:28:05
That starts to help spread things out and mitigate some of the eyes and length that the L A. Lakers have.
00:28:10
But those are a lot of ifs to put out there to say.
00:28:13
Then Miami is in a good position.
00:28:16
Yeah, The other thing about Miami is they tend to play like these two teams play kind of the same way where they they keep.
00:28:26
I mean, it depends kind of on the the opponent, but we saw that a little bit in that nugget.
00:28:31
Siri's where the Lakers will be in close games, will keep it close, and then they're gonna just blow you out at the very end.
00:28:37
The Heat also playing very close games.
00:28:40
I think they've been in close games for most of these playoffs, except for I guess, around one.
00:28:43
But, um, you know, it's it's two teams that kind of play the same way where it's a lot of, you know they don't they don't streak out into huge leads.
00:28:52
That's kind of, you know, going head to head the entire game.
00:28:55
I just sort of prefer the Lakers in that scenario for many reasons, but especially the turnovers in creating things in transition.
00:29:02
I just think that's so demoralizing for an opponent.
00:29:08
Yeah, no for sure, man e think because of the coaching as well, right? And that's what I like about this.
00:29:13
I like that.
00:29:14
It's two coaches that Vogel, I think not changed, but just elevated himself.
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In my mind, I didn't have a lot of high thoughts around him coming into the season.
00:29:21
I think I look at him a lot differently by what they've done over the course of the bubble in the playoffs, and that's probably shame on me for not knowing it sooner.
00:29:27
And then Spoelstra.
00:29:28
I knew it already and he's just been showcasing it.
00:29:31
Siri's after serious, so I like that I like a serious to your point where no one's going to get away from one another.
00:29:37
Maybe they want to manage their way through the game and then try to execute the best in crunch time down the stretch.
00:29:43
And it's gonna come down to those little those little adjustments that these coaches make and that that excites me like I like this feels more towards quote unquote traditional basketball.
00:29:53
And I love that X's and O's like it's It's not just about dropping threes.
00:29:57
It's about the inside out game and what these coaches were going to do and what some of the role players going to step up and provide each team like.
00:30:03
That's the stuff that makes me excited about this series.
00:30:05
I do hope that at least we get, you know, six games and you never You don't get to that three to one lead for L.
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A.
00:30:13
Like, let's try to keep this thing exciting for the first handful of games where maybe you start to see some different matchup wrinkles that you weren't expecting.
00:30:19
Yeah, no, I mean, it feels like a game where I'm gonna be reading ah lot and listening to a lot of podcasts and watching a lot of YouTube videos like It's going to be one of those Siri's where I want to know about every single adjustment.
00:30:35
Like it just And that's how that's how that Celtics in Syria's Well, that's how that Raptors Celtic Siris was.
00:30:41
My goodness there was That was magnificent in terms of coaching and just like so much stuff you could look at from those Siri's so that I'm excited for that.
00:30:49
I mean, that's part of enjoying basketball for me.
00:30:52
Is is not only just watching the product but hearing people, I guess like us, ****yze it, but also just listening from other areas.
00:30:59
It's just such a such a fun game toe learn.
00:31:02
I know that sounds so cliche and, uh and and corny, I guess.
00:31:06
But it is such a fun game that you can pick up so much from.
00:31:09
So um, yeah, I think I don't know if you have anything else on this.
00:31:13
I guess we could probably close this out, Don't know many minutes or rock with here.
00:31:15
But, um, let's Who's your pick? No, we've we've We've done that dang thing for game water for the Siri's whole.
00:31:24
Siri's game one two the whole Siri's, the whole Siri's.
00:31:29
Yeah, well, yeah, I'll gild the lily.
00:31:32
I had the Lakers get in Game one.
00:31:33
I just think that that the statement of whatever LeBron and all these guys were going to be a D and everybody else.
00:31:39
I think they're gonna come out guns blazing and really make as strong of a case for this isn't going to be a Siris in game number one, Um, and I just I I don't know how I want.
00:31:50
I want to go with the Miami Heat, but I don't know how you're supposed to pick against LeBron James and Anthony Davis, so I'll take the Lakers.
00:31:56
But I'll hope for a really good Siri's and say, this one actually goes the full seven and we have a real competitive Siri's.
00:32:03
So I'll take Lakers and seven, and I'll take him to set the tempo here in game number one.
00:32:09
Really Lakers in five because they've beaten everybody in five e.
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I think it's I think it's the Lakers in five.
00:32:17
I think they put in early two oh lead and I'm just not sure how Miami response to that being a mix of younger and older players, but it's tough being in a two hole against this Lakers team.
00:32:31
They just they handle business.
00:32:33
They might give you a game, but I there really, really, really good.
00:32:37
And I mean, if this is a good Siri's, I think we have to have the conversation about the the perception of the Eastern Conference in relation to the Western Conference.
00:32:48
Because this is now what, two years in the running that we've had, you know? And then let's say this game, this.
00:32:54
Let's say it does go seven, um, or six even.
00:32:59
This is two years in the running now that we've had in Eastern Conference team really fight to the nail with with the team from the West.
00:33:06
So or when? I guess last year.
00:33:08
So I I think it's something that will be really exciting, and I will be interested to see it's a good temperature check to see where things are and a strong case, by the way, like before a strong case that they should be merging these conferences when it comes to playoff times and just creating the best matchups one through sixteen.
00:33:26
Like, I just think that you get so much more exciting basketball.
00:33:29
The best teams will rise out of that as well.
00:33:31
And then you just have these most competitive possible matchups throughout.
00:33:34
So that's my That's my footnote on the way out the door.
00:33:36
But I can't wait for this thing to start if you got If you can't tell Matt and I are interested in watching the NBA Finals starting tomorrow night, it's Yes, I'm excited.
00:33:45
Um, do you have anything to plug away on your channels? You're a man of many channels, so I guess it's all aggregated into one now.
00:33:52
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00:34:42
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00:34:45
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00:34:47
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00:34:51
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Heat’s X-factor vs. Lakers in 2020 NBA Finals

Turns out, Heat culture is in fact a winning culture, as after beating the Celtics in Game 6 of the Eastern Conference Finals, Miami will advance to the NBA Finals for the first time since 2014. As dominant as the Heat have been this postseason, they have their toughest test ahead of them, as they […]

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All right, everybody.
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I could never tell if it's it's actually going on this when it's stuck on with one right here.
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So I'm gonna hold for one minute.
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Welcome back, everybody.
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The SportsCastr News.
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It's your host, Matt Brooks, with my good friend and co host, Adam are Brecht.
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Adam, how are you doing on this lovely morning? Um, are you getting ready for the finals? And we have a nice couple of days to spy.
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Fully prepare ourselves? Yeah, for sure.
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And listen, first and foremost, friend, Love that.
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Start out with friend, and then we worry about co host afterwards.
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That's that's where West, where we built this relationship to at this point, s e a certain point, you just have to accept it, whether we wanted it or not.
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This is what we are now.
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Um, no Great ahead of you, man.
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This has been I think we've had so many conversations around the playoffs, and it seems like you and I were in agreement around the Lakers.
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They seem to be what was going to be waiting for.
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Whoever came out of the east, but Miami.
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It's me a while at least to come around because they were winning some of those early Siri's, especially in line with the Pacers, and they're missing guys.
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Then you get to the Boston Siri's, and that's where I thought.
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Okay, here comes the real battle that we thought Miami would face.
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And then that's kind of not really that big of a battle.
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And they get through that with relative ease.
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So adjusting to Miami being as strong as they have been in the playoffs, that was the hardest thing for me to kind of wrap my head wrap.
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Yeah, I'm still I still don't think there like I mean, I think they're good, but I still don't quite understand it.
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Like there's like a lot of me that's still so like, tied to these traditionalist morals of basketball, where it's like you need the star player that scores twenty six points and you need, um, you know, ah, bunch of exciting wings and all this stuff and it's like, No, their best player is actually a rim running center and on there, and they're led by a thirty four thirty five year old Goran Dragic.
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For most of the game.
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They have Jimmy Butler closing games.
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I mean, I've just I've never really seen a team like them, to be honest with you.
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Well, and it's a weird It's a weird.
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But I talked about this with Keith, about the Boston Heat, Siri's and saying, When you came into that, even when you came to the playoffs, you knew exactly what you were getting with Boston.
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You know, now you you have Hayward.
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They're coming back from an injury.
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That's fine.
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But you know Kemba Walker, and you know Tatum, you know smart.
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You know Brown and go.
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Yeah, these are guys.
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These are the guys that need to win or lose this for us for Miami when you turn around and now you talk about Bam Auto Bio joining Shaquille O'Neal, LeBron James and Dwyane Wade as three Onley members in Miami Heat franchise history to go for thirty, ten and five, you have you have a hero breaking Dwayne Wade's rookie record in the playoffs for scoring.
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So you have these kind of they're not unknown.
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It's like we didn't know these players in the regular season, but you didn't know what they were gonna be in the playoffs, and for a lot of them they've been elevating their game, and that changes how you feel about it and it.
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And it makes it interesting to me because to your point about traditional right, who's the guy that's going to be the big point score and who's also gonna have the ball in his hands at the end of the game like that's usually the same one in the same.
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But for Miami, they've got this rial for about eight minutes.
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Why don't you be the man, bam on a bio? Why don't you pick it up here and do your thing for a stretch? Jimmy Butler.
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Maybe I Maybe I won't really be hands on impacting the game for a pretty big stretch.
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And then when it when it when it really dials up, I'll step in and try to knock down some of those big shots or make the big plays whatever they may look like.
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So it's a different model.
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It's a different model than we've seen for a long time in the n B A, especially when it comes to finals match ups and you look across and you see LeBron James and Anthony Davis.
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Yeah, those are the guys, you know, those those The two big main guys that you expect a team toe have going into a championship.
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Yeah, it's funny.
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They're kind of like a I don't know.
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They're like a baseball team.
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Was like a really deep bullpen.
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Like they're Sometimes they'll have their like, starting pitcher room, right? Go for, like, three innings.
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I don't know. I don't know if that's fully accurate.
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I'm not a huge baseball guy.
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Uh, but it is kind of like that could have been totally false.
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Somebody who's probably Keith is gonna be like, Dude, that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
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Like nobody actually plays baseball.
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But why would you use a baseball reference body Come on like, don't do that again.
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Like stick to basketball dio.
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No, but I mean, uh, that's kind of that's kind of how I see them like they're they some games they'll go seven innings with with the Jimmy Butler.
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Or sometimes they'll even run off like Goran Dragic, who wouldn't even be a starting pitcher and another and another team.
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But it works well for them, like he just has his his games where he's able to create some space.
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So they're interesting like that again, I just because they're so different, I almost find myself gravitating to them.
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Ah, lot in this finals.
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And that's actually against, like, ah Lakers team that I find to be pretty endearing.
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I much like you with the heat.
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I've Ah, I've been a little bit more of a Lakers Doubter throughout pretty much, you know, especially preseason.
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I just didn't like the roster that much.
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I think you like Anthony Davis and LeBron, but outside of that, you have a lot of question marks.
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I had the Clippers over them for pretty much the entire season I picked, I think Houston and round two against them.
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Andi.
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I kind of figured that the Clippers wouldn't blow it against the Nuggets in advance to the conference finals and beat them now.
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Had they had they actually won in that Game six or even that Game seven.
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I actually don't know if I would have picked them because they looked so rocky against the Nuggets, but you know, throughout this entire journey, they they've actually impressed me quite a bit and another team that isn't necessarily built conventionally.
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It's a team that sp**** on shooting.
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It's a team with a you know, a LeBron who is a total wrecking ball but isn't necessarily a shooter.
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And Anthony Davis, who's, let's be honest, a center.
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And we were coming off years and years and years of where you can't even play a center in the n b A finals, much less, you know, have a center.
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Be one of your best players.
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I mean, they're interesting to.
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It's just kind of showing you like, hey, without the Warriors, um, basketball basketball could be pretty unique, and I think that's a really good thing.
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So, yes, shots of the warrior shots fired Warriors.
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How dare you be injured? Your entire roster be injured this year s O in that regard? Because I said this E said this to Keith, and we don't have to get too deep on what the Nuggets or even with the Celtics necessarily.
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But I remember you and I had the conversation where the big problem for the Celtics is.
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Their center position is a relative non factor for them.
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It just in terms of really impacting the game.
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When you look over at the Joker and what he could dio that that ability, that court vision and passing out of the five is what gives you the ability and the option to say, If I we don't need to be, I want to be a shooting and stretch the perimeter.
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I don't need to be Brook Lopez, you know, and be shooting threes, even though Joker can do it at times.
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But if I could get down into the paint and draw the attention of defense and then do traditional big get down in the low post, then kick outside person Easy looks.
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That's how you start to impact games in a different way than we've seen for a long time now. And it's weird.
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Maybe your point, because bam auto bio is another guy like this Right now.
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He's a forty two five, four or five, you know, somewhere he's somewhere in there.
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But his athleticism and in a different way that he impacts the game, eliminates the need of saying, Well, you're not the biggest guy in the world.
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So you're not just going in there and man handling everybody, and also we're not sticking on the perimeter to shoot threes.
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but it forces a defense to adjust how they play you.
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And I think maybe that's what we're seeing a lot of from Miami.
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And then the Lakers have gone ultra big.
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They're having McGee and having what happened.
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We saw the way Vogel utilize them in the last series to to really to beat up Joker and make him earn it.
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Um, but you're seeing how coaching and we talked.
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We talked about it before to coaching place.
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Such a big factor is how how do you utilize the pieces you have? How do you choose to execute and force the other team to make the adjustments and going back to that Miami Boston Siri's.
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We really saw it.
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I remember you saying right Spoelstra is was really kind of taking the to Brad Stevens.
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It felt like in a lot of ways he knew all of the right moves to make all of the adjustments, and Stevens wasn't able to counter that.
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So it's not just the player right, but also how you're using them to make it the most difficult matchup for the other team.
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Yeah, I mean, Vogel did a great really, really great job, too.
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I mean, I think that they had a lot of counters for what Malone was running in A lot of times.
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Yeah, I think there was a talent disparity.
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But, you know, Jamal Murray was in it like he was really, he was.
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He was a superstar in these playoffs.
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So, um, you know, it's funny you mentioned the the Celtics and the Nuggets, and I I don't know.
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I think there's a really good chance that both of these teams would go to their conference finals again.
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I really dio.
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I wouldn't be surprised all the way.
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I think the Celtics we'll see what they do.
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I think they probably just run it back with Gordon Hayward, and you're probably not going to trade him for anything that you really, really want more than than a healthy Gordon Hayward.
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Don't really think that would be the move.
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You you need a center, Um, you really dio You made that point and I like Daniel types, but you should probably come off the bench.
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I don't think he's a starting center if you're trying to win playoff rounds and then the Nuggets are Aaron really great statement.
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Another year of Michael Porter Jr Hopefully just figuring it out.
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I think there were moments in these playoffs and he kind of had the normal rookie run and you also to remember he didn't really play this year.
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So for a lot of these rookies, like you see Tyler hero and he's just going just bananas.
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Well, he's actually played a full rookie season, and he's had almost what feels like an off season to sort of work on some things mentally.
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Michael Porter Jr didn't play, so he's coming into this bubble and he just doesn't.
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You know, he doesn't really know what he's doing all the way out there, so they'll be fun.
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Um, and he's a huge X factor for them because if somebody points in that Lakers serious, it just felt like they could use another score.
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And that's also would include Will Barton.
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But it? Yeah, exactly.
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Right.
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And then sometimes I think it's easy also to forget some of these teams who they didn't have with them in the bubble and for the for the Denver Nuggets.
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I really I thought that the grant was a really nice piece for them and and really is about both ends of the floor, right, obviously hitting some of those nice shots on the offensive then.
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But he had a lot of great great defensive plays, and that's what really gets me.
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I don't say they bullish because the Western Conference is obviously a gauntlet.
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But I feel it's just like if you're the Denver Nuggets, you go.
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Let's bring this thing right back.
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We got young players, but you said you got Porter who need it needs these little more season like we feel great about what we did in the playoffs and about coming right back next year and feeling super confident for Boston.
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I guess I do wonder a little bit about them because you go, boy, how are you going to deal like if it's not Thais coming off the bench, who you bring in ahead of them and then you're still in this weird ground off battling Miami Heat again? Bring it back even.
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They don't do anything and you assume they probably will, even if they win the championship this year against the Lakers.
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You got the Brooklyn that's coming back in and we know the Milwaukee Bucks like I just want it's weird.
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I wouldn't have thought that I could have been less confident in Boston coming out of this, but because Miami beat out other teams because Milwaukee wasn't there, it seems like it should have been getting brighter and brighter for Boston over the course of the playoffs.
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And instead it left me feeling a little bit like, Okay, you know what? What have you lost here? Unfortunately for Boston fans through losing Kyrie Irving bringing Kemba Walker? What does Kemba Walker not have that a Kyrie Irving in that role does? It's the pure scorers to take over the game in the fourth quarter mentality.
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And if you don't have that, then the exposure at the five maybe becomes that much more glaring for that team.
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I don't know how you collectively replace it now.
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Maybe Gordon Hayward healthy and again the full season for him.
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And what does that look like? But it just It's interesting for me when you look at that roster and wonder the next couple of years for them like this is it until you maybe draft successfully someone in the later round.
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I don't see a free agent out there that they look to bring in to say, And this elevates us to a top two team in the Eastern Conference going into next season.
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Yeah, I mean, the Kemba things tricky because he's thirty right now and the knee seems problematic.
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I don't know if if it's a giant, you know, blaring red alarm there in Boston about his knee, but it just it doesn't feel like they've had him one hundred percent healthy since really January.
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I don't know what the health was in, In, in, uh, you know, in in Orlando and especially in these playoffs, some games.
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He looked great.
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Other games, he didn't s Oh, I don't know what the deal is with that, but even so, I mean, I think you're looking at a guy with a knee that may or may not be, you know, fully healthy.
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He's in year one of his contract, and we're already kind of having questions about Oh, is this really the guy you wanna have for these big moments? Um, I think that's a little bit of a cause for concern.
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I think the Kemba Walker we're looking at in year one is going to be in a dramatically different role than what he's doing in your three now.
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That might not matter, because I honestly think out of anything that I saw right now, and it feels weird to criticize him because he had such a great year.
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But I thought Jason Tatum was really underwhelming in key moments for them, and I think that's gonna change.
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What's from I mean, really, I think there's so much fret going on and Boston to the Celtics.
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Twitter, um, losing their minds right now, like absolutely losing their minds.
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And I'm like, Look, man, just let this guy like he's what? Twenty three, twenty two, twenty three? So you know, just let him figure things out.
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He's still got to finish.
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He's got to get better at the rim.
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He has, like, no floater game, his at room finishing his not great.
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I don't think he's great with both hands just yet, but you know, in his shot, selection could improve.
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But he's really young, like these things are really good.
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Losing in the playoffs like that is actually really good for a young player because they work on their game, so I wouldn't worry too much if I was them But I would be focused on improving the roster a little bit and just yet grabbing a center, maybe grabbing another shooter and and just seeing what what Tatum is going to do in the off season.
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He has improved every single year, pretty much every single year except for the software seats.
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But he was good this year.
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So I want so will improve.
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But yeah, no.
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And it's trying its like I fall victim to like over ****yzing a player, like, say, twenty three years old.
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Listen it maybe twenty five before you see the full formation of their game and and once they show a flash, though, then the expectation you're like, Well, you already show you showed us gave the taste.
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Once you give us a taste, you got to give us the whole package.
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You can't go ahead and wait another six months to the you know that next level of whatever your your game is gonna be.
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That being said, though, one of the things that I look at now starting tomorrow with the finals matchup is Lakers heat.
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You look at the heat you mentioned drag each, you mentioned hero and bam on a bio.
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My question now is, though, and there's guys on both sides of this.
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But so now you look at one of the best rapture ratings defensively and Anthony Davis Okay, you're gonna take on that bam out of bio assignment and we'll see if bam can overcome that matchup or at least fight it to a neutral right? If you're if you're the Miami Heat, you go the net neutral against Anthony Davis and we would love that.
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Let's cancel him out.
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But then I actually look at a guy like Caruso, and I think about his defensive a***en.
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And what does that look like? Maybe if they say we know that hero has been this coming hot quote off the bench, but we've seen what a hot shooter has been in the playoffs.
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Do you think that the Lakers have some of these role players and you throw Rondo into that mixes well, specifically, maybe at the guard positions where you say drag it hero.
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We may be able to do some things here that really neutralize you, at least for stretches of the game, and and that may start toe, have things fall apart from Miami in terms of not having to rely on ah, Jimmy Butler for longer stretches than you want to or looking to **** auto bio and saying, Can you carry this load? Where do you Where do you see that? Some of those matchups from the, uh, Miami Heat side and still being effective offensively and still finding the rhythm? Yeah, I think that's a great point.
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Like you look at the matchups and they're already kind of set in stone like you see bam out of bio how well he's playing.
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It's, well, it's like, Well, he's going against You know, Anthony Davis and Dwight Howard, who's been really good really good for this last round and even throw a fair a little bit.
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Um, so, I mean, you have that set in stone.
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Then you have those two guards to pressure, um, to pressure, you know, a Tyler hero or Duncan Robinson.
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If you want to do something like that, Alex Caruso is gonna be a guy that is, I think make a pretty big impact on those guys on Ben.
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Even like Jimmy Butler.
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Like you could put you put LeBron on him and give him that.
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That assignment, or you could throw a Danny Green on him like, and I think that there's just so many.
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It's just such a good defensive team, and they kinda have counters for pretty much everybody.
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The one guy, I think it's funny, like the one team that or maybe two teams that they wouldn't have necessarily had counters for our, the Celtics and the Clippers just because of all the wing depth there.
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I just you know, that's the one position that they might have not like.
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It's a kind of a lot of toe ask for for somebody like LeBron James toe.
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Just make him the primary Simon, especially with two wings.
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But for this Heat team, yeah, it seems like they have the right guys on the floor.
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The other thing that I like about this matchup for the Lakers outside of them, just having the two best players in the Siri's is this Miami team there.
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They you know, they moved the ball very well.
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They and and it's it's smart ball movement.
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It's not like risky ball movement, but still, when there is a lot of ball movement, you are risking turning the ball over and this Lakers team is long, they're gonna make everything tougher.
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They're gonna make it hard on a team that's very harmonious, like the Miami Heat.
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So I worry about that a little bit for them.
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I I don't know what that looks like, but I do worry about the turnover is a little bit especially early on.
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Yeah, well, you mentioned Danny Green, a guy who we were talking about throughout the playoffs are going Boy, that offensive game doesn't really leave a lot to be desired, and that was never his big role.
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But now, in a game like this, you get a serious like this.
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You go and guess what? Don't worry about that, man.
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Like you said, Just use your length on defense.
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And if you could impact one of their key players great.
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And And that and that may ultimately be how the Lakers have always looked at some of their secondary pieces on this roster, including, you know, including a JaVale McGee, right? Listen, buddy, at the end of the day, it's not going to be about what you're doing for us on both ends.
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You just need to be a problem for bam out of bio when we throw you out there something like they did against Joker, right? Like, just be just be a problem here.
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And Dwight Howard really looks phenomenal in that Siris.
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In spite of in spite of me hating Dwight Howard, I don't know if it's I don't know if it's like his pristine white smile and the way he always has this.
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Like, you know, hey has such a ****y look on his face, no matter what phase of his game he's been throughout his entire career.
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Father, it bothers me to No, I know he is.
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Yeah, I know it bothers me to no end like I'm like, do like you have been arguably one of the bigger disappointments in terms of what your career should have, should or could have been.
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And yet you're still out there acting like you are the Anthony Davis or you are LeBron James, just in terms of personality and respect around the league.
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Now that being said, I have to acknowledge that he was great last Siri's, and he may end up being a real X factor in this series.
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So by when it's all said and done, he may end up getting a championship and Good Lord, wherever that man's ego goes from, there is anyone's guess.
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But it's gonna be.
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It's gonna be a heck of a time on social media if this guy, this guy, get to chip here in the finals.
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Yeah, I mean and like, yeah, as you said, Like credit to him for for really becoming like he's just never been.
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He's never really transitioned into that Ben Troll like he was what, five teams, four teams in his last couple of years.
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And this year you just got it.
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And it's funny because when you see him on the court, you think, Oh, this guy carries himself like a star Um, but I think he's used that ego to his advantage.
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Now he's become the enforcer.
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But, like in the Dwight Corny way, like the way where it's like, alright, Dwight, like right like, yeah, it's just it's very Dwight.
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So Z that's how I describe it.
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But, um, who's your X factor on each side? Well, you know what, E don't know if this is gonna end up seeming almost silly, but for the Lakers, you go back to the last Siri's you go back to that last stretch there in the close out game against the Denver Nuggets, and you saw that flash from LeBron James where it was.
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Hey, guess what? I can still do this thing. I may be.
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Can't do it for the full forty eight.
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But I can do this for stretches you mentioned about maybe putting him on Jimmy Butler and saying, Hey, take on this defensive assignment.
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And if you shut down Jimmy Butler, the ramifications there.
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So for the Lakers side of it, I know this sounds incredibly silly and maybe sounds incredibly easy.
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But the way that LeBron approaches this Siri's and the way that he approaches the defensive matchup and then also offensively, he needs to come out Game one downhill bowl, attacking in the paint like really forcing the issue.
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I think that if he chooses to do that early and often, this Siri's could get away very quickly for for the Miami Heat, because we all know that LeBron can do that.
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But over the bubble or even over the playoffs, you know that I don't care about the deferring to you, Anthony Davis.
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It makes total sense to do that.
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But I still have this wonder about what is the highest gear that LeBron can go Thio.
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And how long can he stay in fifth year over the course of the game? Because you may need that for stretches.
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So maybe that's cliche.
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That's easy.
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I looked at him for the Lakers and what that's going to be in these finals for Miami.
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I think you have to look at Obama on a bio for everything that he's done for them over the playoffs.
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For the for the impact he's had on both ends of the floor, how he's able Thio manage, taking on Anthony Davis and then getting JaVale McGee and getting Dwight Howard thrown at him.
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That's going to be to me those matchups.
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They're going to be the biggest factor.
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Because if the Lakers neutralized Bam out of bio, then then again, it's another.
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There's farm or areas where I go and then things could fall apart for Miami pretty quickly.
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But if he's not able to still have a high impact on a game to game basis and a consistent impact, then you're going to see Spoelstra.
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Maybe have Thio choose matchup moments right when a d comes off.
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That's when you go in and try to pick and choose those battles.
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So the way that on auto Bio goes to me is the way the Siri's is gonna go assed faras Miami's concerns.
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Yeah.
00:23:07
I mean, the LeBron thing is interesting because he also to think about Is he gonna be gunning for finals? M v p like? Has he been saving the reason we have seen him, like, do the whole downhill go to the basket? Pressure the rim Every single minute is I just wonder if he's played this game for so long now.
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He's been so good for so long that he even understands Hey, I have this guy and Anthony Davis who is just a ridiculous score.
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Um, I wonder, and it's gonna be interesting.
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Like, is there gonna be any company petition between those two to win finals? M. V P.
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If you can't tell, I think the Lakers were gonna win.
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I dio I just haven't seen, uh but yeah, I mean, I think it's gonna because what is Miami gonna do? That's gonna not That is not possible.
00:24:01
But what would Miami What is the matchup from Miami to L. A.
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That they go.
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Oh, boy.
00:24:09
Okay, How are we going to manage this? They have If hero goes off, it's not even.
00:24:13
Yeah.
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Okay, so you're going off from three like that? That's gonna happen no matter what in the game.
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But there's not.
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And that's why you know, Auto bio to me is like, if all of a sudden it feels like the Lakers and Vogel's, they're going well, how are how are we managing this guy like he's just he's doing it to us, which I don't see happening consistently.
00:24:29
That's one of the Onley few ways that I can see it outside of maybe saying Jimmy Butler really starts to heat up from three is, he's randomly done over the course of the bubble in the playoffs, something he's not great at.
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Like something new was gonna have to occur for Miami that we haven't seen from them.
00:24:45
For me to think the players, the depth, the defensive matchups, it all leans very heavily in the favor of the Lakers.
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Yeah, I don't see it personally.
00:24:56
I guess the big thing would have to be that zone defense like that's the only thing that they have to like this zone.
00:25:01
Defense has to be the greatest defense we've ever seen. I like.
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I just I don't know.
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I don't necessarily see it as much.
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And I can tell you like I could tell you a counter that they have to the zone defense right away.
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If they just put Anthony Davis in the middle of the floor, that's gonna work their entire defense.
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So, um and and he's He's great from that position.
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Like it's like the Lakers were built, I think, almost to build the heat.
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E don't.
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It feels weird to say that, but it kind of does like and I don't know if I'm the only one thinking that way, but there is a part of me that sort of thinks it's not gonna be super competitive for that reason alone.
00:25:36
I'll tell you right now, I think my biggest X factor for either side, it's got to be Jae Crowder, right? Doesn't it have to be Jae Crowder e.
00:25:48
I wanted to go low, wanted to go down the list a little bit that I always pick like the random like totally random guy that like, you know, it's just like they're probably just not very good, period.
00:26:00
And that's probably why I picked them.
00:26:01
But Jae Crowder, I mean, dude, if you could get that that round one and two, Jae Crowder, you're you're smooth sailing.
00:26:11
Okay, But well, and that's why I would say, like, uh if, like, if I was gonna go low key, I'd say, Like, it's like, you know, for the Lakers, Rondo, like he has the ability to really take out a player for Miami, Just, you know, defensively and have this little run for you.
00:26:29
Doesn't matter what you do offensively like he's shown.
00:26:31
I think he showed that little bit of right. I'm a veteran.
00:26:35
I know the playoffs look like I have plenty of guys to carry the load offensively.
00:26:38
And I had this little stretches where all of a sudden, like I dish out a handful of assists and all of a sudden I just get really up in a guy for a couple of key possessions, like by the way you talk about like X factors.
00:26:47
Sometimes it also like you're also talking about it coming down to at the end of the first half with thirty eight seconds to go.
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Miami is down by four or five points, and maybe Rondo gives you a really.
00:27:00
Or Caruso gives you a great defensive possession where they strip somebody out front.
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And then it's a breakout and it gets to LeBron for an easy jam.
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And now it stretches it to seven or eight.
00:27:09
Going to the brake, right? Like those air.
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What your ex's only three or four plays that may sway how this goes.
00:27:15
You know, if your Miami and you know you need to keep this thing tight, stay close all the way through.
00:27:20
Don't get don't fall behind where all of a sudden you need toe, work your way back into it where and I'll say on the other side of because we talked about this Lakers Not a great three point shooting team.
00:27:30
It's not a part of the repertoire.
00:27:31
If Miami gets out to those big leads, then you at least put this pressure on even a ten to twelve point lead. The pressure of L.
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A.
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Have to do things a little bit out of their normal plan to get back into it and get closer and get even and then return back to the method that they want to use more often than not.
00:27:47
So you know the opening gates here. And maybe that gets Crowder.
00:27:51
That's the X factor, as you say, because now you're talking about if he could be knocking down triples.
00:27:56
Now you're opening it up and you're saying hero and you've got Robinson and you've got drag it.
00:28:01
And you've got Crowder all guys that can hit it from the from the perimeter.
00:28:05
That starts to help spread things out and mitigate some of the eyes and length that the L A. Lakers have.
00:28:10
But those are a lot of ifs to put out there to say.
00:28:13
Then Miami is in a good position.
00:28:16
Yeah, The other thing about Miami is they tend to play like these two teams play kind of the same way where they they keep.
00:28:26
I mean, it depends kind of on the the opponent, but we saw that a little bit in that nugget.
00:28:31
Siri's where the Lakers will be in close games, will keep it close, and then they're gonna just blow you out at the very end.
00:28:37
The Heat also playing very close games.
00:28:40
I think they've been in close games for most of these playoffs, except for I guess, around one.
00:28:43
But, um, you know, it's it's two teams that kind of play the same way where it's a lot of, you know they don't they don't streak out into huge leads.
00:28:52
That's kind of, you know, going head to head the entire game.
00:28:55
I just sort of prefer the Lakers in that scenario for many reasons, but especially the turnovers in creating things in transition.
00:29:02
I just think that's so demoralizing for an opponent.
00:29:08
Yeah, no for sure, man e think because of the coaching as well, right? And that's what I like about this.
00:29:13
I like that.
00:29:14
It's two coaches that Vogel, I think not changed, but just elevated himself.
00:29:18
In my mind, I didn't have a lot of high thoughts around him coming into the season.
00:29:21
I think I look at him a lot differently by what they've done over the course of the bubble in the playoffs, and that's probably shame on me for not knowing it sooner.
00:29:27
And then Spoelstra.
00:29:28
I knew it already and he's just been showcasing it.
00:29:31
Siri's after serious, so I like that I like a serious to your point where no one's going to get away from one another.
00:29:37
Maybe they want to manage their way through the game and then try to execute the best in crunch time down the stretch.
00:29:43
And it's gonna come down to those little those little adjustments that these coaches make and that that excites me like I like this feels more towards quote unquote traditional basketball.
00:29:53
And I love that X's and O's like it's It's not just about dropping threes.
00:29:57
It's about the inside out game and what these coaches were going to do and what some of the role players going to step up and provide each team like.
00:30:03
That's the stuff that makes me excited about this series.
00:30:05
I do hope that at least we get, you know, six games and you never You don't get to that three to one lead for L.
00:30:12
A.
00:30:13
Like, let's try to keep this thing exciting for the first handful of games where maybe you start to see some different matchup wrinkles that you weren't expecting.
00:30:19
Yeah, no, I mean, it feels like a game where I'm gonna be reading ah lot and listening to a lot of podcasts and watching a lot of YouTube videos like It's going to be one of those Siri's where I want to know about every single adjustment.
00:30:35
Like it just And that's how that's how that Celtics in Syria's Well, that's how that Raptors Celtic Siris was.
00:30:41
My goodness there was That was magnificent in terms of coaching and just like so much stuff you could look at from those Siri's so that I'm excited for that.
00:30:49
I mean, that's part of enjoying basketball for me.
00:30:52
Is is not only just watching the product but hearing people, I guess like us, ****yze it, but also just listening from other areas.
00:30:59
It's just such a such a fun game toe learn.
00:31:02
I know that sounds so cliche and, uh and and corny, I guess.
00:31:06
But it is such a fun game that you can pick up so much from.
00:31:09
So um, yeah, I think I don't know if you have anything else on this.
00:31:13
I guess we could probably close this out, Don't know many minutes or rock with here.
00:31:15
But, um, let's Who's your pick? No, we've we've We've done that dang thing for game water for the Siri's whole.
00:31:24
Siri's game one two the whole Siri's, the whole Siri's.
00:31:29
Yeah, well, yeah, I'll gild the lily.
00:31:32
I had the Lakers get in Game one.
00:31:33
I just think that that the statement of whatever LeBron and all these guys were going to be a D and everybody else.
00:31:39
I think they're gonna come out guns blazing and really make as strong of a case for this isn't going to be a Siris in game number one, Um, and I just I I don't know how I want.
00:31:50
I want to go with the Miami Heat, but I don't know how you're supposed to pick against LeBron James and Anthony Davis, so I'll take the Lakers.
00:31:56
But I'll hope for a really good Siri's and say, this one actually goes the full seven and we have a real competitive Siri's.
00:32:03
So I'll take Lakers and seven, and I'll take him to set the tempo here in game number one.
00:32:09
Really Lakers in five because they've beaten everybody in five e.
00:32:14
I think it's I think it's the Lakers in five.
00:32:17
I think they put in early two oh lead and I'm just not sure how Miami response to that being a mix of younger and older players, but it's tough being in a two hole against this Lakers team.
00:32:31
They just they handle business.
00:32:33
They might give you a game, but I there really, really, really good.
00:32:37
And I mean, if this is a good Siri's, I think we have to have the conversation about the the perception of the Eastern Conference in relation to the Western Conference.
00:32:48
Because this is now what, two years in the running that we've had, you know? And then let's say this game, this.
00:32:54
Let's say it does go seven, um, or six even.
00:32:59
This is two years in the running now that we've had in Eastern Conference team really fight to the nail with with the team from the West.
00:33:06
So or when? I guess last year.
00:33:08
So I I think it's something that will be really exciting, and I will be interested to see it's a good temperature check to see where things are and a strong case, by the way, like before a strong case that they should be merging these conferences when it comes to playoff times and just creating the best matchups one through sixteen.
00:33:26
Like, I just think that you get so much more exciting basketball.
00:33:29
The best teams will rise out of that as well.
00:33:31
And then you just have these most competitive possible matchups throughout.
00:33:34
So that's my That's my footnote on the way out the door.
00:33:36
But I can't wait for this thing to start if you got If you can't tell Matt and I are interested in watching the NBA Finals starting tomorrow night, it's Yes, I'm excited.
00:33:45
Um, do you have anything to plug away on your channels? You're a man of many channels, so I guess it's all aggregated into one now.
00:33:52
Uh, yeah, you could just you could look me up at Adam, are back here on SportsCastr, and it'll drop you into the New York football Giants coverage that I do with the now featured one giant podcast here on SportsCastr.
00:34:05
We got Net stuff.
00:34:06
Still doing it once a week or so.
00:34:08
Thio feather through the off season and then SportsCastr news, MBA SportsCastr News, NFL.
00:34:14
If you want to see more of me, all you have to do is come to SportsCastr and check it out.
00:34:18
So check out all those things, the podcast.
00:34:20
Enjoy it, and then check out that Brooks Man He's doing a great thing.
00:34:23
E slash.
00:34:24
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00:34:25
I love having everything on E.
00:34:27
I really do.
00:34:28
It's so nice and so fantastic.
00:34:30
Consolidated. Uh, yeah. Check.
00:34:32
Check both of us out.
00:34:33
I'll be back later with Harrison ***an of Silver Screen and Roll doing a Lakers breakdown that I desperately need to prepare for.
00:34:42
So, uh, I will be doing that later, and that should be fun.
00:34:45
And then we'll get more predictions.
00:34:47
I'm sure he's gonna open my eyes to a bunch of stuff that I haven't necessarily thought about.
00:34:51
So that'll be fun.
00:34:52
Check both of us out, Adam.
00:34:54
It's always good to see you.
00:34:55
And I will be seeing you around this week.
00:34:59
I'll be seeing you around.
00:35:01
Uh huh.
00:35:02
I'll see you soon, my friend.
00:35:04
Alright, my friend. Take care.

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