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Yeah, the orange 1.
We should probably say that at some point they beat Georgia Tech for their first win of the season.
Their first A c C win of the season.
Um, is the first win over Georgia Tech in a very long while.
Never play him, so that helps.
But after the pain, that was the last time we played them.
Was that 53? Nothing down there, which I actually didn't go to.
My buddy lived in Atlanta at the time, and my wife and I were like, Yeah, we should go down to that now.
No, glad we didn't.
Yeah, that was That was the reminder that Scott Shaffer does not know how to stop a triple option.
And then this was the other reminder.
This year in Middle Tennessee played Army.
Uh, yeah, actually, this is a perfect segue because the once again three offense definitely woke up 37 points.
But I think everybody could agree that the star of the game and start of the season was this new look.
Tony White is immediately becoming the second most popular basket.
Are sports coach in Syracuse Right now, Coach Mac is probably bumped down from number two to number three.
Sorry, coach Andre Jim Boeheim will always be number one by default if nothing else, because there are enough staunch defenders of him.
Thio keep their Let's just be real here.
But Tony White's defense so fun.
There were interceptions.
There were crazy things that we just have to get into eso just like off the off the boat.
One of the things that we were talking about in the chat, Um, in our news chat during the game was that man, this is the third straight week that this defense is coming out with different looks and different personnel packet.
You work? This was a little bit more.
Yeah, This week was a little bit more out of necessity because of injuries, but I think things went well.
Yeah, I mean, as well as things could go when you lose your amazing all American safety to injury free.
Clich? Frequently from running into one of your white out.
So the pregame warm up.
But so if anyone didn't see the game or wasn't around at the beginning of the game, Andre Cisco picked up a bit of a knock on.
There's the other football coming through, uh, way.
Don't call it knocked around thes parts.
But, um, yeah, picked up an injury pregame and apparently from running into Hendrix during warm ups.
So they went from having a very, very, uh, experienced and talented secondary to a couple of really experienced and talented guys and a bunch of in experienced and talented guys.
So it Z it's definitely It was.
It was an adapt on the fly for Tony White.
Thankfully, um, what we had talked about earlier, I think, came through a little and a little some of that cross training with trill and, um yeah, a different positions.
Definitely came in handy.
If nothing else, from a knowledge of where he'd need to cover a little more.
I don't think he specifically rolled up to the rover, but he, uh, definitely, you know, a head knowledge of what was going on in front of him, especially when the existing rover picked off a ball and then found him for you.
Yeah, I think that's definitely the way it works.
Um, I thought that was definitely one of the more interesting things.
I think by this point in time, we kind of have to say that trills not gonna be the rover.
Like, if there was going to be a game where they were gonna put him in that position, that would have been the game.
And they didn't.
So it seems like they've kind of moved away from that, even being an option in case of emergency kind of a situation which I think is which I think is interesting if for nothing else, it shows that this coaching staff has a really high, um, trust in trills ability to cover and b in mawr of a Don't screw things up world, which is not what I think anybody thought was going to be his specific role going into this year.
Yeah, that sounds about right.
And I think e think it shows shows the maturity from the, um I don't want to say reckless, but definitely more than willing to take risks type player we saw last year, too.
Now he's more than willing to take risks, but also, uh, is able to stay at home when they needed to, which is nice.
Yeah, and I definitely think, in general, the defense kind of runs through the secondary way.
Jeff Sims Not in Double M. Sims.
M uh, Jeff Sims is a really talented quarterback.
He's a really young quarterback, and Syracuse took advantage of that.
There were plenty of times when Simms looked good, but more often than not, that Syracuse coverage held up and Sims mistakes came with basically coverage sacks or him trying to run his way out of a coverage sack and then throwing the ball up in the air and Syracuse making something happened on bad decision by him.
And that's probably the best what we're going to see time and time again.
Better quarterbacks like Kenny pick it or somehow won't make a many dumb decisions, but there aren't a lot of other really good quarterbacks left on Syracuse schedule who will be able to just kind of sit back and pick apart a really good secondary.
But at the same time.
When you look at at this like Sam Howl and picket both potential NFL prospects, we pick them off four times.
Yeah, like this defense is ball hawking and it's doing it well.
Um, one thing they weren't doing well so much on Saturday was defending on the ground.
Yeah, at the same time, I mean, they gave up what, 450 ish yards.
Total offense, mhm, but only 20 points and forced a bunch of turnovers.
And we mentioned earlier in the program the Scott Shaffer defense's.
This had that, and I don't want to jinx anything or say something stupid, but I'm going to say something stupid.
It had a lot of those Schaefer under Marone Bend, but don't break type situations, forcing forcing the offense into making mistakes.
Uh, they would get gassed up the middle, and they continually got gassed up the middle for many yards by three different running backs.
Um, including gives who with two B's, um who, uh, he looked legit.
I mean, a true hey could hit the hole and find a hole.
There were numerous times where heat either popped outside and just found space.
Or would would be kind of running that zone route and either bounce it or cut it up and in and find 10 and three yards out of something and make make our guys train arm tackle instead of put a body on him, which is Yeah, it wasn't it wasn't great toe watch, Andi.
I think that was when you saw the game kind of slow down.
And Georgia Tech was able to get back into the game because they wanted to go fast.
But they had to keep the ball on the ground on dive.
Got the profootballfocus defensive grades up and against the run thing Onley two running backs with grades over 70 or Steve Linton and Tyrell Richards on and Richards on, Lee had seven snaps against the running game.
Um, Linton was much more actively involved.
He has 35 snaps and he was he was really solid.
Um, but the rest of the linebackers against the run looking at Stephen Thompson.
Hey, did not have a great game.
Uh, definitely didn't.
We definitely weren't talking about him the way that we were talking about him in other weeks.
Uh, completely pod bug.
Got a little bit of a run there, Um did fine, but didn't really stand out a ton.
Miquel Jones was amazing.
In the past, Rush was not so good at being able.
Thio kind of stopped the running game in any way, shape or form.
And I think that that was really the difference there.
Is that the linebackers in the passing game or much better at either pinning the ears back or dropping into coverage? And in the run game, you could just kind of tell that Georgia Tech had a much And this is what you're gonna get with a team transitioning from the triple option like their their offensive linemen and those running backs.
Just know how Thio open up a whole get to the second level, set up a lane and they're just really fundamentally good at running the ball.
And you've got to be smart in order to be that not just, you know, hope that your athleticism carry through Yeah, and that zits a weird one when it comes to that second level, because I think a lot of the issues we saw and something that I think Georgia Tech realized it took advantage of, was that we were rolling up a lot like way.
We're kind of in a 42 for a good chunk of it.
There were a couple a couple of times where they actually rolled the other the safety or they're over down into, like, a true for three.
Look, even you saw Cody Roscoe lineup is a true and a couple of times with that, But there that the looks that we were giving kind of in that four to with a linebacker focused on coming, especially when they're interior with a stand up stance like, uh, there's a lot of Okay, we can run it this.
And when you break through, you get two guys to beat.
Then you're into the third level.
Yeah, so if they could find a way to suck someone in and then bounce him like like you saw quite a bit, um, it was definitely definitely something that we could her that they were able to take advantage of.
That I could see, is a weakness of it for them.
Yeah, I think I not.
We'll kind of get into the future post bye week and what we should be looking for.
But in general the Onley two teams on Syracuse's schedule in the immediate future that are going to try to run the ball down their throats are Clemson because they have a top five NFL like running backs don't go to the top five anymore.
TN probably would if this was pre 2000 and five and um, Boston College.
So those and everybody else is going to try to do some form of spread and try to do some or combo, you know, between even passing and running.
Nobody's gonna be what Georgia Tech was running the ball.
So even though this is a weakness, even though this is something that you know is going to be something exploited by a lot of teams, I don't think that it's a giant red flag for this Whole thing could come crumbling down.
Now, that being said, if Duke and Liberty all of a sudden just decide that they're going to transition their entire offensive playbook for one game against Syracuse and try toe just run the ball hell or high water, you know, maybe then we talked about it, but I can't see that happening in 2020 where Game prep is at a premium to begin with.
Yeah, probably some we're not going to see.
Uh, yeah, overall, I mean, even D.
At the same time, we're not playing the Green Bay Packers, so we don't have to see a J Dillan anymore.
Eso that'll be a absolute benefit from that standpoint.
Plus, they're transitioning away from the three old dazzler.
Found you in the face and three yards and a quota dirt type thing.
Um, so hopefully that's a good sign.
Yeah, And they also did they barely beat Jackson.
Yeah. The Bobcats.
Yeah, I was thinking Jacksonville State.
I think they're bobcats, too.
No, they're the Game****s.
I was like, There's another game****s.
College football mascots.
Um, speaking of running game, the Syracuse running game finally saw some life this week to get to your bread and butter, which is offensive line play and running game.
The orange moved away from Dzhokhar Jordan.
They moved away from our Kensi Pierre, and they just gave the ball to a true freshman who I kept wanting to call Sean Davis.
And that's wrong.
It's Sean Tucker, Sean Tucker.
Basically one the starting running back job. I think.
I don't think that's a controversial statement.
And I think that based off Latinos.
Um, I think I think it's his job to keep.
Yeah, I think I found their workhorse.
Um, it e almost just said Davis, because thank you.
Like the way he runs is much more conducive to an every down back.
He's very hit the hole and keep moving.
Um, stereotypical, you know, keep the legs pounding.
Look for that extra yard, look for that extra two yards, and he numerous times he would get, like, somebody would get a hand on him and he would just say no, like, that's That's not going to happen.
It looked as weird as it sounds.
It looked a lot like four years running.
Backs have looked against Syracuse, so it was nice to see that on the other side.
A little, uh, the other thing and no offensive to our do our Jordan like, phenomenal athlete.
Phenomenal skill set.
Uh, the only problem is I don't I don't know if he fits that every down back.
Uh, but what this does free up and, I don't know again.
Something I don't know if we're actually gonna take advantage of is the ability to fit him into more of a flex role and don't run.
I'm just a running back like he's probably our best pure runner, you know, Get him out in the slot, get him, get him the ball on space and let him do you know, things that he could do with the ball somewhere to Taj Harris.
Once you get him in space, it's a whole different ball game.
Getting on the ball will be something we really need to figure out.
How are why we're doing Yeah, I think that to that point.
Tucker also, because he's so young, you know that he's going to continue to get better.
He's gonna continue to get smarter, and I think right now we're very much in a position where the offensive line is going to be inconsistent.
We just need you to hit the gap that you're supposed to hit and push forward, and what we'll see is over time he'll get a little bit smarter.
Thio use some of this athleticism that he has, uh, you know, either bounce it another way or create his own space because he's got that strength.
So I'm very excited about what he brings the table.
He really does kind of feel like to me, a throwback Marone running back like very much in Antoine Bailey typeset.
C three like? Yeah, yeah, very much so.
Those are two different things.
A pre pre, uh, the And just having that kind of a player back at Syracuse feels very natural from like a comfort standpoint, but also from just what we know this team is going to be able to do this year.
It just makes more sense for him to be in their Andi saw that that ultimately helped Tommy to be in the passing game out tremendously because DeVito was not freaking out.
Single drop back and defense's couldn't just put their ears back.
And Russia, everybody.
There were plenty of times that they did that success, but there were also plenty of times where DeVito was being a lot more decisive with the ball.
He was doing his progressions.
There's just a lot more from him to see.
Uh, that worked.
Um, there was plenty to see, that was still problematic.
But this was also the first game where it felt like he wasn't on his back for most of the game.
Yeah, and only one sec, which you know that might be a It's either a record or close to it over the last two years.
Um, George text.
The line was a little depleted from what it could have been at the same time, you know, the the online did what they needed to do.
It wasn't always pretty.
I think it seems like this year.
Every week we have a O linemen that's going to have the weight with the **** type game.
On the first week, it was Carlos Federal who looked perfectly fine the week after, and then this week he looked pretty decent.
I again I haven't done my full chart yet, and we'll see where those trends continue.
But last week it was their in service who decided to play Matador a couple of times, Um, and this week it was dairy system who had, I think, three penalties, whether or not they actually stood or whatnot.
He was called for three penalties, Um, and a couple of couple of rough moments as a pass blocker and a couple of rough moments as a run blocker.
So, um, you know by Week five will have run through the the cycle, so hopefully by then it won't start again and we'll look forward.
Toa consistent line play on the back half of the year.
But I don't know it Z really odd.
Just again from eyeballing it.
Not having, ah lot of having time on the tape.
Go back through it.
It seems like every week it's just random, different linemen.
That's having issues.
I mean, they're Bergeron.
Matthew Bergeron had a couple of kind of question mark moments, even though he's probably been our best lineman on the year.
Yeah, so it's, well, it's either him or are converted fullback.
I was gonna say there's a There's a lot to go into the offensive line moving forward when we kind of look ahead to the bye week.
But just sticking with this week, I think there's a you're observation about.
The offensive line is perfect because I feel like that's most of the Syracuse offense.
Like even when Syracuse office with offense was working well on Saturday, it was very much boom or bust.
There was very much a feeling of way.
We're going to make a big play here and we're going to score or this is gonna be a three and out or a drive that doesn't really do a whole lot.
That's frustrating to some fans, especially if you're more condition toe watching NFL football, where most teams were able Thio do a seven play, 70 yard drive or something like that, even when things are going right.
But that's just kind of the nature of this offense.
And to be fair, I actually don't mind it because I don't think there's enough consistency anywhere on the offensive side of the ball to say I want them to be aiming for long, drawn out, consistent, high play drives.
If things were working, take advantage of it, get to score, move on.
Yeah, and I mean, at the same time with with the e guess the emergence of Tucker, that really changes that ability.
You know, if we can if we can bang out 34 yards on the first down, our first down and, uh, turn things into second short, third and short or second manageable third and short.
Um, that really changed our ability to sustain those drives and the ability to work routes that aren't complete over the top, you know, 10 yards, at least where they can play a little little off coverage and not get hurt under the underneath because we can't go underneath because we need 10 yards.
Um, you saw you saw some of that Open up a little over the top two.
With when? When you have to respect the run, you can't just sell out in the past.
And you know, Taj and Nike in both were able to get over the top on people.
So way saw too nice touchdowns to to receivers that got things in stride and, you know, found Hanzo.
Yeah, it's been It was really I know that there's some people that are gonna walk away from this and say that, you know, they wasn't a pretty wind, But in general, I think that this is exactly what Syracuse needed.
It's still early in the year there, not a full strength.
The offense was able to be productive.
The defense, when it wasn't required to make every single stop bent a little bit but also had four interceptions.
They are much more in A.
They're much more able to be in a position where they can be a little bit more aggressive, take some chances and they have the players and the playmakers to take advantage.
And in general, we were saying this before streaming and I'm gonna keep saying it over and over again.
Like this defense is just fun to watch.
I'm I'm officially like putting my hat and right now that no matter what happens on the rest of the season, I think this defense is going to be top half top half a c c caliber.
I think that most advanced metrics I haven't really paid attention to what Bill C has been doing with S and P plus because he's basically said like, don't pay attention to S and P plus until everybody's playing and until there's a much bigger data sample to kind of work and play off of.
But I think that this defensive unit is going to really surprised people because it's gonna pop up in the top half of advanced statistical measures and I think Profootballfocus really likes the defense in general, they're just so good and they're so fun to watch.
And there's gonna be games where I'm sure that they don't perform to this level.
But even when they're bad, I think that they're going to be exciting.
And we saw that with the interception.
Lateral like these, Dino Babers is quote was phenomenal credit to Chris Carlson, who's taken over from Stephen Bayley for the football beat writing position.
But he had the quote from Dino that was basically we're a family.
You pull that kind of move and it doesn't work.
You're taking up trash for the rest of the year.
But it worked and it always seems to kind of work out with trail.
And I think that's just the general vibe with the defense.
It always is kind of working out with the defense right now because the system is supporting them and is putting them in the best position that they could be put in.
Well, it's not every day you can see you had a pick and six, but not a pick six s o.
I mean, if anyone hasn't seen it, it was crazy enough that I had the link in my three takeaways.
Um, Jake, our jihad a way doing this consciously.
You know, we're actually speaking, um, jihad Carter had a nice pick on a bad Sims throw.
Like it was just God awful and hit him basically right in the numbers.
So hit, uh, Carter grabbed it in stride.
Made a couple of guys missed, like, look looked like he was yet, Uh, that was something in the post game I can remember that was parked or somebody else.
I was right after I hit Submit on my three takeaways.
I bolted to go camping, so I was listening to the postgame in the car because Lisa was reading to see best.
And what else do I have to dio Um, So I was listening to the postgame and, um, basically, park was talking tow.
It might have been talking to neighbors in the post game, and he said they have a couple of guys that like to turn, uh, they play defense.
But once they get the ball in their hands, they like to turn it into offense.
And I think we saw two of those guys on that play.
Like Carter, Carter had some running back type moves made a couple of guys miss was running in between guys, and apparently he and Trill had e guess they'd scope this out a little before.
I guess they traveled there.
Roommates on travel squad together.
So they were talking about, you know, the the old school neon Deon on, uh, had had kind of draw this up on paper, and the opportunity just hit him.
So it's fantastic, because one, the fact that these guys know neon Deon is something that I think shows just how, um, I'm trying to find the right word for it.
But Dino Dino is attracting a certain type of player to Syracuse, and it's a certain type of player who's not just like they're not.
They're not just into the mat and social media football world that I think people paint is the new generation football guys into like, yeah, exactly.
I can't believe that.
I'm saying that right now, but Dino is getting These is getting these kids that are coming to Syracuse.
They're choosing to play it Syracuse because their football fans they know the history of the NFL so amazing that he's got thes thes kids knew that Waas.
But secondly, uh, to your to your point, about to them just being, like, really good moves like these kids could play on either side of the ball, like I think that.
But if you took jihad or trill and you took them out of Max school, they could play both ways.
Um, but the power five level, like they gotta pick one or the other, and they've chosen defense, and they're being put in positions where they can kind of use these skills to the best of their advantage.
And I absolutely loved the fact that Trill got the touchdown because I think it was he had the one of the first picks of the game.
It was the 1st 2nd pick.
Yeah, first it was.
Yeah, it was the jet black, uh, deflection from was That was the case of Jonathan Deflected it.
Big man came out.
They have a video of the two of them talking about. It's fantastic.
They were so happy.
Um, the second one, because that was the one where Georgia Tech was actually driving.
And that pick basically prevented Georgia Tech from scoring something.
Although their kicking game was bad enough that I probably shouldn't say that it was gonna be a guarantee field.
Um, they that pic trail got caught from behind, and he was so angry when he got up that he got caught from behind.
You just kind of see this.
I remember it wasn't trill, but somebody last year had the quote on Syracuse That it was It was if they're big point of pride was that they had never been tackled from behind.
And I feel like there's so many players on Syracuse roster who feel that way and drill was definitely not happy that that had happened to him.
But, you know, long drive was gassed.
Had to sprint basically the whole length of the field.
Um, it wasn't gonna happen, but he got his touchdown.
He nobody came close to him after that lateral on.
It was fantastic.
So props to him, I actually pulled it up because you said something earlier and it really dinked with me because one of the three takeaways I wrote up was 20.
White system isn't infallible, but it's really fun to watch.
I think that really sums up a lot of that conversation we just had.
It's like there's gonna be some words to it like it's still wearing curve.
You still a first year D.
C? Um, but we're having a **** good time figuring this one out, so e se he keeps it up.
Um, one more thing I did want to note for the DBS.
Garret Williams went down with an enduring mid game that brought Rob Hammond.
Yeah, which that was another, um, I guess, like ball that went off like, Oh, yeah, we have a lot of depth of DB like there's some talent there.
So I would earlier in our conversation, I brought up the pro football focus grades on.
They have coverage versus receiving, so they break down every snap on whose matched up against two.
Obviously, it's not perfect for when zone coverage comes in, which is employed a little bit.
Maurin 335 Um, but ironically, if he was graded to have one of the worst was the worst graded defensive back.
But he also was only targeted, um, five times the entire game.
So again, most teams are basically avoiding him, and if they do go to him, there might be some success, but regardless, his number should be taken with a grain of salt.
But Rob Hanna was created at a 78 which is insane for any player on Syracuse's defense to get that Khyber mark.
Marlon Wax was another guy who had a great It was great to 79 as a linebacker, um, but in general he was graded higher than Williams.
He was graded almost this highest trill, and Hannah just kind of showed again.
Another opportunity for a young player that wasn't expected to get playing time.
This was a normal season because the seasons basically a free for all.
There's a lot more confidence in the young guys, and Hannah played his way into the rotation like it's a very busy well, in secondary.
Thea, I was thinking, just just before we go off on him like I mentioned in a corner, uh, it was Neil.
None came in a corner.
Okay for Williams.
I'm trying to think back Hannah, I think, was playing.
He may eventually in playing over the top, and they may have rolled trill up, so I don't know.
There was a lot of flex and I was trying to keep track of too many things at once. Eso.
But either way, Hannah looked like that.
That diving interception, the one that got waved off, but yeah, fantastic.
Okay, give you more of those.
So actually, the second one was the one that was actually his pick was diving too, right? Yeah, They just in general.
He just showed that he's another I We don't usually talk about recruiting on this because neither you or I are like the recruiting people on the news magician side.
And we both fully admit that.
But Syracuse is coming in right now with, like, a top 50 recruiting class potential to be top 40.
And there's I think a lot of people have given Dino and rightly so in some regards criticism on the recruiting front on choosing to recruit in certain areas over others.
But I think what we're seeing is that the kids that are coming in now they're targeting a very specific type of athlete.
They're targeting a very specific type of player who probably isn't always going to stand out because of stats and isn't going to be a prototypical high rated player because they don't have a good fit.
But somebody like Hannah in a very flexible defensive system is able to get in there, dive all over the place and be a difference maker.
And I think that that is again.
Defense is so much fun because the system is so much fun.
Yeah, I mean, yeah, it's It's becoming really fun to watch and especially like we talked earlier about the unpredictability of it.
And part of that was us not knowing what to expect and not knowing what we're going to see.
But the different looks that they're rolling up, I can Onley imagine, especially from like Sims standpoint as a freshman signal caller that I guarantee in the past he's not seen anything quite like that.
Where anybody can line up anywhere at any given time like you have, you have four or five, you have six guys that are going to be where they're going to be.
The three linemen and the Mike linebacker and everybody else could be like, Okay, where you going? Like where what's what's going on? And it's working.
It's working tremendously because you can see them getting pressure with just four or five guys every single time credit Thio.
I wanted to say this before we kind of transition into looking ahead.
Credit to Michael Jones.
He didn't He wasn't great and run stopping, which we talked about earlier, but on the past, on passing downs.
Man, that guy was a beast.
He was in the quarterback space all day.
He was living in the backfield on passing downs, and I think I know at least two of the picks and the waved off interception or directly attributed to him hitting Sims hard as he let go of the ball.
And that is somebody who I am so happy is thriving.
You and I were both high on him last year, and we're seeing why we wanted him to play Mawr earlier.
Um, I guess talking against the Runas.
Well, uh, there he did what he needed to dio.
He handled that to gap opportunity.
And I know we had talked about it, uh, in the pregame myself, and Christian kind of went back and forth on it.
Yeah, if I'm looking at the wrong place because there's another picture of you over here.
Um, so every once in a while, I catch myself doing that But Bear, like Bear, did what he needed to do and actually handled a nice, uh to get technique and put up good numbers against the run.
So it may not be the flashy numbers that you'll see out of a D tackle, but I mean, he did what he had to do.
So the defensive line of Josh, Black Bear and Kingsley Jonathan just just make me so happy.
Like those those Air three Syracuse student athletes who are absolute freaks, they don't know if they'll catch on an NFL level.
Um, it's always kind of tough to evaluate a defensive line when you have, like, a three man front that's kind of based on different looks or whatever.
But they have all thing was a big question mark.
We were talking about this pre stream all.
Robinson just got his first sack, um, in the waning moments of the Seahawks Cowboys game.
That was a huge hole to fill because Alton was basically carrying the defense last year, and these three have kind of shown that they're more than up to the task and the defensive line continues.
This has been almost 10 years now.
The defensive line being a safe space on the defense.
It's not something you necessarily have to worry about.
It might not be the elite levels, but it's not the worry part of the defense, which is great.
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I have no idea what to call that low.
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That's why it's why they made that shirt.
And it's why it's sold so well.
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They just launched Missouri, which was brought back some really fun memories of one of the stupidest Syracuse football games that we've seen in our lifetimes.
That was great. Away.
It was the girl hunt coming out party.
Right? I believe Terrell.
I think he definitely played.
I know that Alex Lemon is the name from that.
Lemon had the touchdown.
That was also the game where we got the Daryl Gross.
Two phones Just yes, because he was I think it was pre game or post game was when he was a must have been pre game.
Because I remember that was in the evening game.
Yeah, and he was walking around the two phones.
He was just hanging out in the end zone half the time.
Man, that game was so gross.
Not trail hunt. That was NASA.
Yeah, that was he put up.
I just pulled it up.
He put up 26 or 43.
85 2 touchdowns, one pick both touchdowns with 11.
Yeah, and it was such a information PPG lead rushing yards.
Amazing throwback game.
I would during this bye week.
I would 100% re watch that game just because I said this on Twitter.
Um, that game stands out to me singlehandedly because I was a sop****re, and so I was back home for Thanksgiving and there are no queues fans that I, uh, in my area.
So I go to the local Buffalo Wild Wings to have it on.
I just throw it out on Twitter like, Hey, I'm at Buffalo Wild Wings watching this game and, like Mike Borkowski answers me and goes, Hey, I'm an eerie to for the weekend.
Can I come watch? So I just sat with Borkowski in a booth surrounded by West Virginia fans, because West Virginia had the ESPN game that night and we were watching Syracuse defeat Missouri.
And it was, It started.
It started a fantastic friendship, but it's just again the weirdest location with for the weirdest game.
Other random facts from that game.
Pre linebacker room Smith with the touchdown in the fourth quarter.
So before you before I converted and became an awesome linebacker, he was also a decent running back that those those that bad team way should do what you dive into the co Big East champion Syracuse Orange with about four other.
I have that T shirt in a blanket somewhere here because it was just so ridiculous.
It was there was, what, four teams that tied for the championship or whatever.
Yeah, Louisville, Charlie, Charlie Strong Louisville was the one that yeah, they won the That was the one that got the BCS did that went to go and beat Florida in the Sugar Bowl, I think.
Which, to be fair, that team was pretty freaking.
Good way would have gotten waffle sound 100%.
Um, but it's just like, man, think if things break slightly differently, Syracuse is playing that game.
And Charlie Strong is probably not coaching Texas, which is funny because then Sterling Gilbert wouldn't have gone to Texas.
Yeah, we're going to USF now.
He wouldn't be back here so we'll see how this all works out.
And maybe we can hit the back to the future and change that.
Every again, I think we just found what we're going to be diving into later this week for five weeks.
Syracuse has one, because the season is the weirdest schedule known to mankind.
Um, obviously, we still have Great.
We're gonna have so much great content this week a Syracuse plays the fighting buys as this news traditional.
You know you as I love the people who don't understand the bit.
At this point, the bit has been going since before you or I were even associated with the block and people still get it.
It's Yeah, it's longstanding fun for anyone who hasn't seen it.
It's always entertaining way leaning into it a little bit too much, probably, But you know, way don't get there from actually happening on the football field perspective.
I think one of the one of the most important things is that preseason Dino had said it wasn't gonna be until week four or five that we saw the offenses on at full capacity, and part of that was because of injuries to the offensive line.
And with that, I believe, and correct me if I'm wrong.
Dakota Davis seems like the most likely addition coming off of the injured list and making his way into the rotation.
So where does he slot into their do? We want him starting? Where do we want him starting? What happens? I mean it, Zaveri Weird one, because you haven't established unit at this point At the same time, you're bringing back someone like Davis, who has been a starter and a contributor for two years, UM, started for last year contributor the year before.
The problem is, where do you put him? And naturally, you would think you would replace the converted full back tight end.
I don't know if that's where you want.
Like Dari, Sistol hasn't done a bad job.
He's actually been a stalwart in a couple of the games.
So this is not gonna be an easy decision for, um, for Dino and company like whether to Elmore has been surprisingly stout at guard, which you wouldn't expect from a converted skill position player.
But at the same time, you.
One thing I've learned over the course of the last couple of years with Syracuse is you cannot count Rhino out of anything.
Whatever you tell him to dio, he's going to do and he's going to do it.
Well, I e defensive line.
Last year when all of us were like, yeah, huh, it worked.
So, um, with Davis that Z, it's a very It's a very odd situation, like, do you go with some sort of guard rotation Davis complained, both left and right.
He was penciled in at left last year or this year.
Um, since, uh, Florida transfer who? I still can't pronounce the name of coming in and see their black or Blakely bleach.
I don't really again.
Sunday we will figure this out.
And if he's listening, tell us like I don't care if anyone knows, tell us.
But we just wanna get exactly like I don't want to commit to the wrong name.
So I've watched enough English commentators soccer games like committing to the wrong pronunciation.
It's like, No, guys just don't do that.
Um, but whatever you do, uh, like Davis has played both sides.
Tisdale Insurers trained on both sides.
One thing I am curious about is Mark Petrie is listed as the backup tackle for both sides of the both left and right.
Whether someone getting healthy will change that.
I'd like to see on the depth chart knowing do you know he won't actually put that on the depth chart? Uh, at least until after a game has gone through where we've seen usually Usually one thing I've learned over the last two years of writing the depth chart preview is all it does is reflect what we just saw.
Yeah, so, you know, sometimes we've been able to glean a little bit out of it.
But for the most part, it's What did you just see? Okay, we're making it official.
Um, so I really don't know what's gonna show up next Monday, Whether it's going to be Elmore replaced it.
And this is all predicated on Davis actually being healthy.
But whether it's almost being replaced, whether it's his deal being replaced, whether it's Dakota Davis being shown us the backup behind both of them and getting minutes, Um, I don't know.
They're not in uneasily position here, so it's tough because I think correct me if I'm wrong here.
But if we were dealing with a tackle injury, things become a little bit more clear.
But on Lee, so much in that you probably give a younger guy some leeway to play over or somebody who you know what, you got two degree.
Um, and Davis, I believe he's a Richard Jr.
Yeah, he's I don't think he was on the senior list because when I did the right up about who gets the extra year of eligibility, no questions asked.
Doesn't counter scholarship limits.
He didn't show up on that list, right? So if we end up, you know, uh, if he's eligible for another year and he's been he's been working with federal Oh, for all this time, do you give him some more on out? Like, Do you bring him back in and make sure that because no matter what, if we're if we're starting our most five most talented offensive lineman, he is in that 500% there's no there's no two ways about that.
The question is whether you disrupt the chemistry they're starting to develop, or whether employing in will immediately benefit that chemistry and take it to that next level that we were hoping this group got to, um, it's It's not an enviable position for them to be in.
It's great to get more talent back, but how you make that work in the appropriate manner is very strange.
Yeah, And I think, um, the other injuries that we're looking at our whatever trill are sorry.
Whatever Andre Cisco suffered whatever injury that is peels up fine.
Sounded like it was a situation where it was a fluke and because it happened so close to game time, there was just no way it was gonna had.
It was going to come to come to pass that he was gonna play um, Garret Williams.
We want to see him get healthy.
George Jordan apparently dropped out of the game and led way to Tucker because he had some kind of a minor injury.
So we'd like to see him get healthy as well, to be used in some kind of flexible position.
But really, what's going on? The offensive line is probably the biggest question and the biggest.
Why we need why the bye week.
Being early is okay for Syracuse at this point, which is again, I'm fascinated to see what happens because I think the eye test is showing it, and you being somebody who actually watches all the games kind of proves it.
Elmore has been a revelation.
He is not the weak point on the line, which is fascinating, that in any way, shape or form and he impresses me more every week, which is weird.
I'll I'll take that every day of the week.
It keeps getting better eso at his size.
He's not gonna find any, you know, likely not gonna find any next level guard positions.
But his true flexibility may be a boon.
Thio some sort of, you know, NFL squad like, Hey, this guy can literally play wherever you want him to go and he's going to do a good job of it and improve this, like, played three different positions on offense, line and skill positions and play d tackle so fantastic at the party.
Yeah, 100% Syracuse.
Another weird thing I noticed on the old line on it may not have any medication towards health or any of that.
Well, two things, I guess Kadeer White was not dressed in pads.
So I'm assuming he's also on the injured list.
Um, everybody kind of wondered why he wasn't, you know, he's kind of been a long developing four star.
Hey had the frame and everything coming out of high school, but needed Thio home some things he was in ST while in that street clothes.
But, you know, warm ups with his jersey on for the game on then.
So that was just kind of a note.
If anybody's wondering where he is on then.
Hello? Uh, the freshman center well, center was playing guard when, um okay when Tisdale went out after his personal foul penalty, Um, hello was the one that we had to go into guard, and I believe he was in a guard for the long Taj touchdown.
So it was one of the long touchdowns.
He was on the line somewhere, and I think it was a guard.
It'll it'll come out on Wednesday, but really interesting to see him out there.
So I don't know whether that was a function of him impressing a lot in camp and into the season.
Or if that's a been issue with injuries or what? Because Patrick Davis has always been the backup guard.
Hello has done the center, but I didn't see anything happened to federal.
Oh, so who knows? And federal law was in the next Siri's so well, another one of those things to keep an eye on to what happens.
Yeah, the I think in general we're going to see a lot more of that This'll year just because 2020 things, they're weird.
Things are fluid tryout, weird stuff, and see if it works because you get a Mulligan.
And looking at Syracuse is next.
Few opponents like not to say I told you so, but I'm gonna take this minute to say I told you so.
Andi, I think everybody on the site kind of agrees with this.
Syracuse has Duke who does not look good and they have liberty, which if that game happens, Liberty probably is better than Duke.
But not by much.
They aren't playing a ton of other good teams right now, so it's tough to get a gauge of when they're our liberties and both be Malik Willis and Malik Willis.
Yeah, and it seems like again I'm not too worried about that anymore.
Because Tony White is our new favorite human, right, Our Lord and savior, Tony White.
Please let me hand you this pamphlet E remember, from Book of Mormon.
But yeah, explain the virtues of the 335 e.
Yeah, there's eso.
I'm not s so great.
I'm so I'm so not worried about about the next two games.
Syracuse could be in a position where we're going to see a lot more of experimentation as the game goes on.
and we're going to see them kind of tinker with things.
Even if it all breaks right, there'll be three and two, which is kind of the dream out of this beginning of the season s.
I ended up writing five and six.
I think you wrote the six and five going into the season.
I know I wrote the ***** winds.
Okay, you wrote part of the doom and gloom.
Siri's e wrote the first corner.
No, I i And to be fair, I thought four winds was where we're going to be out because I did Not that the defense is going to be this good like that predicted for, So I'll be right there with you team, you idiot.
I Listen, if you were told me that Tony that the defense was going to the strong part of Syracuse, I probably would've still set for, But if you would should be one clip of the Georgia Tech game, I would have immediately been like, Oh, yeah, we're going six and five.
I might have told you, Go home. You're drunk.
Like I did not expect a defense that they had to on the fly, put in with a completely new scheme in a rookie defensive coordinator, uh, to look as good as it has.
So a testament to 20 white and the student athletes like a great E a***en to pick up this new scheme with a lot of wrinkles in it and make the most of it. So e.
I think we can kind of jump into this as kind of not necessarily closing thoughts, but something toe like wrap around because this is Syracuse and our fans are the weirdest people.
Um, there's gonna be a lot of talk about Tony White leaving Syracuse.
Uh, depending on how the defense does this year.
And my personal thought is that there's no way he leaves after this year, no matter how good the defense is.
Because there's not gonna be anyone out there offering enough money to transition him to leave because every athletic department is dealing with limited fans and dealing with limited budgets and not having the ability to buy people out.
But in the second part of this, and you mentioned this last week and it's still crazy to me, he's a rookie defensive coordinator.
This is his first power five coordinator job ever.
He's not in a position where he's been doing this for a while when he's going to Syracuse, UH, to get Mawr exposure.
He's at Syracuse because Syracuse was the first place that said, you could be a defensive coordinator, not an assistant.
And there, for better or for worse, Tony White is a was a highly sought after black assistant who has never given a coordinator position.
And now he's doing the coordinator thing, and I think you're going to see a lot of his name.
Get tied to a lot of positions because you have Thio interview at least one minority candidate in order to kind of save face and every firm will give you the minority candidate he might become the hot minority candidate.
That doesn't mean that he's actually going to jump anywhere and that knowing Dino, there is no way he is not giving Tony White some kind of an extension or some kind of pay bump in order to ensure that he sticks around here for a while until one of the top 25 perennial powers comes knocking.
Yeah, if if wild heck does one thing, it's, you know, signed on the dotted line to keep him around at this point.
Um, I don't know if that talks premature, it might be.
But what we've seen so far has it at least predicates us, too.
Moving in that direction compared to questioning what he's gonna do.
It's like one game was like, Okay, this might be a fluke.
They don't have any tape.
Two games, like Okay, you know, they only have one game to go off of the third time around.
Yes, the competition keeps stepping down, but keep stepping down.
I mean, doesn't The first two weeks were both top 25 teams, and then it definitely stepped down to Georgia Tech.
Hence why we won go figure, although again, stupid Syracuse things.
Those other two games we could have been right in.
We were right in until the tail end of it.
So, um, here's to Syracuse in 2020 but it's it's not, is weirdly cut and dry like to be, I guess.
I guess I would think it would sound very stupid to be talking about a rookie defensive coordinator giving him a contract extension three games in.
But so far the proof is in the pudding I don't think, you know, wild Hex, smart enough business a***en that it's not going to happen any time in the immediate future until later in the season where it's deserved.
But it's It's not out of the realm of possibility for him to be thinking about it.
Yeah, and I think this'd is perfect, because to that point, the business do***ent could say, Well, if no one is looking, Thio kind of outbid somebody for for one year defensive coordinator.
I can wait until next year to see how things go and then offer the extension.
Eso I do think that there is a level of Give him a year here at Syracuse.
Give him and Dino some more time to kind of build on that relationship.
And I do think the two of them are probably going to get to a point where we've seen with Lustig, where Lustig has had an opportunity to balance.
There were rumors that Penn State offered him a special teams job and he stayed at Syracuse.
Uh, Dino has proven to be very loyal to his people, Thio protect them to an insane degree where we cannot talk to other coaches and he will take all the criticism no matter what.
So I that is not something that you get afforded at other places and as a new dipping your toes into the water of being a coordinator.
That kind of protection and that kind of support is not something to be taken lightly.
And Tony White is going to be at Syracuse for the foreseeable future.
I think we have to worry about it.
But I do think next year this defense is still the high part of the team.
We can we can have that conversation in earnest.
Yeah, I mean, at this point, you know, you talk about the stereotypical you know, Dino Babers La Familia, and this is one of those points where it's like no, that that rings true for female when he says that like it is a family to him and that's an awesome way to run a coaching staff.
And I got a hunch guys will stick around beyond where they should or where they could to I mean, in White's case, he's still making plenty of bank is a defensive coordinator for Power five program.
You know, it might keep him around a little bit longer.
I guess that's the other thing is when we get to a point where we're playing musical musical coordinators and musical assistant coaches, that means we've reached a certain level where people want our coaches.
So that's that's a plateau I'd like to get to.
Um, would be even nicer if we can retain some of those coaches.
But to have Gino's assistance on the rise means he's going to start scouting talent for coaches.
And it's not a bad breeding ground for moving forward in the system.
Yeah, the only two coaches, the again reminder.
The only the only ones that have left were Brian Ward, who was obviously fired on dshea on Lewis, who has turned around a what was considered the worst.
You know, uh, FBS job that you could have in Akron and has turned them into a bowl team, which is insane or can state that's it.
Yes, Akron is the perennial Mac powerhouse.
Can stay is the bad one who had produced NFL talent in the seventies somehow and then just fell off a cliff.
And I know Stephen Godfrey when he kind of talked, he did an interview with Sean Lewis, and he flat out called Kent State like a bottom bottom 10 job to have and Shaun Lewis is has turned it into a mid tier Mac program, which is not something to sneeze, that.
So the only people that are leaving are two insanely talented to stay as a coordinator, which I will I will take.
That is not there on the court, exactly.
So I think I don't think we have to worry about 20 white stuff.
I wanted to bring that up because it was It was definitely something that I'm seeing.
People talk about a lot, and it's definitely going to happen as long as the defense is the hallmark of our conversations.
I don't think it's something that we should concern ourselves within 2020 at all.
Well, it's always tail into.
That podcast went sideways.
Didn't Tony wait this prospects hanging around here? So you always find some weird way toe dio off on some tangent, so I'll take it.
It's what happens when Syracuse football games start with right again.
We didn't even talk about the 30 minute delay to the kickoff.
That's how this game Waas.
Yeah, that will be That will be get to my campsite at, like six.
PM with the three year old.
That was a joy, Uh, e mean good on him, But they're reaffirming tests and making sure we think all the ducks in a row sucks that it had to happen, right? A kickoff.
But better that than them get on the field and start running around, hitting each other and being like, Oh, what's sorry? One of them was inconclusive.
Yeah, and I think it probably won't be the first.
It won't be the last time that we see it.
It's just, of course, Syracuse.
It was the first time that we saw it.
So at least we weren't Notre Dame and we didn't have our game canceled this week.
There was a game.
Syracuse won it, and they now get two weeks to kind of rest to recover and get ready for a Duke team that is really struggling.
And next week we can kind of go into a natural do preview and talk about some or some or Texas knows based off of whatever that does this weekend.
That's just a nose.
Yeah, our favorites until then get ready for a lot of fighting. Buys talking.
Yeah, To look forward to On site.
Also this week, I may have a, uh, upstate New York apple orchards power ranking, so Oh, that is great by we content.
You know, in case you need to rates, um, leaves and pick some apples.
We got you covered.
It was going to say I'm currently sketching out a rough draft of a new, often Ian, uh, installment, which is just Yeah, John, this is what happens when you let us run.
Well, he timed it.
Well, he timed it so well.
Yeah, Yeah, it couldn't have been better.
So anyway, hopefully we can keep him out of the slacking off the site.
Just, uh, obviously, although take care of a someone with the experience, there's a lot of downtime with a newborn.
I would 100% agree.
Except he also has a three year old just running a two year old, just casually running around three year old, one of them.
I know that. She says Hulk smash.
So she's already my favorite.
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So we're teaching, right? This is again.
There might be some marvel content this week.
Who knows? Way don't.
It's not only how to grow in orange. Waingro.
Various things we can grow various shades of orange is very good.
Yeah, I gotta watch that tonight.
I'm so behind on the new season tensions.
Anyways, this is how the livestream always and Steve and I are just, uh, our beers air in.
And we've just had a long Sunday that ends with us talking football.
So this was great.
Thank you for tuning in, as always.
And thank you for re watching this If you're watching this tomorrow, I guess Monday morning when this goes up on the site uh, that's kind of all we have for this week.
Tune engineers, magician all this week for lots of fun.
We'll talk about the state of the team, will do some fun stuff.
And ultimately, you'll want to see Steve's Lineman preview that he spent so many hours rewatching such weird football for it's painful, but I do for the people and because let's be 100% real here, man, that this is gonna be so much easier to wash in the last two weeks.
Thank you, Syracuse for winning.
Thank you, Steve.
For producing and talking with me.
And thank you, everybody for listening.