We welcome back to another episode of one giant podcast where, as always, I am Adam arm wrecked, joined by the healthy, wealthy and wise Andy Mackiewicz.
Adam, it looks like this is the last warm weather weekend of the year.
What are you doing this weekend? Name of the tavern is my wife's name.
I'm the one that's gonna be preparing all the food and cooking everything here.
So she gets all the accolades and all the credit.
And you know what? If I get to watch the game and sit on the couch and have a ****tail, she could have as much credit as she wants.
Let's be fair here.
I've run afoul of the Mrs uh, listen, your wife, my friend, we have our own connection, you know, outside of what our relationship is and unfortunately, had some missteps over the last couple of weeks.
So I'm trying to butter that bread.
I know she listens to the podcast, and this is just my me a Copa.
As we look forward to that, it's gonna be a lot of fun.
First time we're gonna get together this NFL season First time we're going together in a long time, obviously, given the conditions of the world over the last handful of months.
But before we dive in on the official matchup, one little note here there's a tie between these two teams in terms of Devante Freeman.
When he was the running back there in Atlanta, obviously offensive coordinator for two seasons Kyle Shanahan had him as his running back, using him as a weapon.
He was complimentary in the conversations, just saying that to get a heck of a player heck of a locker room guy, uh, you know, very surface kind of stuff.
I do like the fact that he's saying quality locker room guy because I think again, we are always fans of bringing in high character guys for the Giants in this rebuilding inside the locker room.
And when you lose, say, Kwame Barkley, right, another guy who is the model citizen as your star franchise player, you want to replace him with a quality individuals Well, the bigger take care, though, is breaking down that contract.
That one year, $3 million deal.
It includes a little over a million in base salary.
You're also going to go ahead and get a per game active bonus rate up.
5 million in rushing yards per rush in your excuse me and touchdown incentives.
Ah, $250,000 Pro Ball bonus and a $250,000 1st team All Pro bonus.
So before we really dive in, man, is that an indication to you of confidence that they want to? You know, they wanna lay out some some real opportunities there.
Or is it more saying, Boy, that $3 million deal is a lot closer to two million lot closer to, you know, 1.
75 ish for for a veteran running back to help fill out the room? Well, I think I think it's a couple of couple of things.
It doesn't have to be one or the other.
You know, keep in mind that we're going into Game three, so a portion of this season is already gone by, so you gotta take that into account.
The second is the Giants will gladly pay any of those bonus incentives if Devonta Freeman is a first team All Pro like let's write that check right, Like we'll figure it out like I'll email Mr Marrow right now and he'll get he'll get the funds ready and available.
But to me, yeah, it seems like a very reasonable deal.
Keep in mind, Freeman had gone around and visited the Eagles and other teams in the offseason trying trying to get a deal.
Didn't like his cir***stance, and he has made money in his NFL career.
And now he's thinking, Where can I get some, you know, really legitimate snaps this year to showcase that I'm still young enough to be able to be the bell cow or, you know, help the team win.
And then maybe he can, you know, latch on to that one last contract, maybe a three year deal.
$10 million something something in that range.
Yeah, this is obviously a chance for him.
Thio At least reset his market and say, I'm still worth something on.
A team may be competing next year for a championship, so best of luck to him, Yes, I mean, I mean a perfect example.
And while it's a different position and different everything else, but you look at it like what Ryan Tannehill did when he moved from Miami to Tennessee.
It's like he he took a smaller deals that I'll kind of be the backup.
I know Marcus Mariota is injured.
This, you know, for Devonta Freeman.
It just so happens that take one early injured.
You know, Ryan Tannehill steps in, plays great for eight or nine games and gets $100 million contract.
So, like these things can happen very quickly if he shows that he's fresh and healthy and helps the Giants in a big way.
Hey, just sorry.
Would the Giants ever with the Giants, ever flip him if he was having a good run here? Like if he was having a good run going to the trade deadline? Was there any chance that they'd be like? And also, we'll go ahead and grab 1/5 round pick for, you know, for Devante Freeman because he is running so hot here? Uh, that would be interesting.
My answer would probably be no.
If he's contributing, we still need to be competitive, and you don't know what's gonna happen with, say, kwon's knee injury.
If Devonta Freeman looks like he's meshing well with the team and gaining yards and getting Daniel Jones is gaining his confidence.
Like to me, I think you got to stick with him and maybe he even sticks around next year.
You know, depending on how things go, I was going to say that there's there's, there's a world where it is Dion Lewis and Devante Freeman supplementing hopefully the returning, say Kwan Barkley next season just to make sure you have stability there so we won't belabor it.
The other big thing, obviously, as we're trying to do all throughout this season.
We got on yesterday with Al Sacco of the 40 Niners Web zone.
No huddle podcast also writes for fourth and nine.
So fantastic insights from him had a great conversation around.
What do we need to be worried about from the San Francisco 40 Niners coming out of that conversation before we get in on some of the nitty gritty I I pose this to him and wondered, Right, Is this the? Is this a must win game for the 40 Niners and in that division, he highlighted.
You have that extra playoff spot, but it does become a little bit of a bigger game than you would have initially thought for the 40 Niners.
They have, uh, some easier games still over the course, their schedule, but some tough divisional match ups to go.
Is it odd that this might be must win for both teams for incredibly weird and different reasons? You know, it's interesting going into this week, I I even said it on the on one of the previous podcast that this feels like a must win for the Giants.
And then the more I digest it, the more I realized this game is actually more important for San Francisco than it is for New York.
And I didn't think I'd be coming in saying that.
And the reason why I'm saying that is our division stinks.
The NFC East is not very good.
The Giants are one game out of first place right now and don't have a division loss, so you know they lose the game.
They could go toe on three, which is never where you want to be.
But you still have about a 2.
8% chance of being able to make the playoffs at O and three long shot.
But you're telling me there's a chance a Zeiss, as I said, Thio ally go.
Listen, we may still be competitive in a very weird seven.
And nine could still win the division and see is like I was like, Sam, Same, Same same, but different.
You know, you guys need 12 wins to be competitive.
And and that's just the way that things shake out some years, right? And think about it.
You know, when or lose for the for the New York football Giants this weekend, they have the Cowboys up next, and if they go toe one and three and are undefeated in the division, they have a legitimate shot of actually making noise if they could be the Cowboys.
So for me, this doesn't feel as much of a must win game as it does for San Francisco, who, as you pointed out, their division is loaded.
The Rams, the Seahawks, the Cardinals, Oh, my, like they are legitimate.
All of them are legitimate playoff teams.
And it would be very difficult, you know, if they go toe one and two and you know those teams you know, follow suit and win their games.
They're two games back of three teams in their division and they still have to play those teams in their division? Yeah, and they and they're coming off a loss to one of those divisional teams in the previous week.
You know, interestingly enough, on a quick side note you mentioned there about being one and three and going to play the Cowboys, right? So the Giants get San Francisco, then we'll have the Rams next week, followed by the Cowboys.
Oddly enough, you know, while you while cir***stances would say You want to try to win this one and we're about to get into, uh, the injuries for the San Francisco 40 Niners.
But if you even if you just come out, if you come out one and three, no matter how you get there as you go to that Cowboys matchup, if you could just walk in that game feeling like you have a shot toe win being two and three and getting the divisional win through five games, I feel like you're more than one.
It feels like you're for one of your nice fan, which is great.
Where do I sign up for it? Right.
So listen, we try not to get ahead of ourselves here.
Let's get into this.
What we're referring to, obviously, is the walking wounded report we talked about at length there with Al.
They're essentially, as he put it, practice squad running out there more than the starters.
When you get into how many players air out here, I mean, let's just do the laundry list before we even talk about the impact off different positions and who is not going to be there? Um, we're talking about Garoppolo, right? Being held out concerns around the ankle, so they're not going to risk it.
You're talking about missing starting running backs you're talking about already, having been without Debo and wide receiver and additional wide receivers going down.
Then you get into the defensive side of the ball.
Andy, where some big names are Obviously not going to be on the field.
Oh, Dee Ford is doubtful.
Um, you know their defensive tackle, Solomon Thomas back on IR.
You look at Richard Sherman early on. I are.
You know, there's a couple other questions, guys, Greenlaw is questionable.
Oh, man, Bosa might be a name.
We're throwing out there as we highlighted, obviously with him, I'm burying the lead because you know having Nick Bosa out with the with the tourney cl as well.
I mean, they are crippled there, there absolutely crippled. Decimated.
I honestly can't remember an NFL team that has this many injuries that also had Super Bowl aspirations.
Like those two things Generally, you know, don't happen.
And you expect you don't expect to see 10 12 13 starters on a single team beyond IR be out for this game? No, it's going to be a real test for them in terms off.
Are you a quality organization? Are you ready to go out there and plug and play as you may need? Thio? Oh, live podcast.
I avoided sneezing.
And then I told you about it, the other s o the other way that we look at it now You talk about all these injuries for them.
How are they going to perform? We mentioned about that division and like all of a sudden, this could be a team that goes from losing in the Super Bowl to missing the playoffs the following year, just based on not just schedule, but also the injuries that they're handling the key position here.
We mentioned, of course, both is going to be the big one on the defensive side.
But offensively, they're plugging in Mullin's, and this is what I like pulling that information out there from Alice.
He highlighted some of the real positives around a player like Mullins and not necessarily feeling like you're gonna get.
Listen, there's a drop off there.
You're going to change the way you approach the game.
But it is much based on the personnel you're gonna have available, as well as the quarterback in his skill set.
So to briefly recap it here to say that he was going back to 2018 where he had eight starts, won three games, he had a 2.
9% intercept herbal pass rate that was good for six best in the NFL, fifth best in yards per attempt at 8.
3 and fifth best in 2.4%.
So what it tells me is you have a guy who one has been in the system, has some game experience and understands how to, for the most part, protect the ball.
He threw as Al highlighted 10 interceptions, but it was only eight intercept herbal balls, really over a 200 plus sample size so that shouldn't we want to take advantage of Mullins being in there.
And are we going to take advantage of Mullins being in there? Well, I I think Nick Mullins, like you said, has experienced he has started in the past.
He played very well to the point where in 2018 you know, coming off that season, I thought they were gonna potentially stick with him as a starter.
I thought I thought he was going to be the guy, Um, you know, And to illustrate how well he played during that 2018 season.
Put this in perspective.
He had a better passer rating than Daniel Jones did last year.
So that just, you know, if we're high on Daniel Jones, then we clearly need Thio.
Show some respect to the Nick Mullins name, so to speak.
And I think as you go through it now and we talked about the key players, they're offensively.
They signed Mohammed Sunu of veteran wide receiver.
I think at the very least, what you say is, what do we get here? We get a guy that knows how to run the route trees again connection to Atlanta with, uh, Kyle Shanahan from his time down there as well.
So familiarity plug and play inside of the system.
Give a security blanket and then you think about the passing attack out of the backfield.
So they're gonna try to manage this thing by just utilizing your best weapons, right? And try to probably control time of possession, be methodical about this thing and really forced the issue for the Giants defense, who has played well and yet has still found themselves on the losing side of a couple of games.
When we move into those expectations for the New York football giants on both sides of the ball, where will continue to highlight some of those matchup issues that they may face? One of the things that that has been? I want to say, you know, it's positive because our passing defense has been a little bit stronger than we anticipated this year, for the most part and yet bottom third in the league in terms of run defense, allowing 276 yards on the ground.
That's the ninth most in the NFL, and now the the silver lining here, maybe for the Giants is over the first two games.
Big plays, 10 plus yards, a 30 yarder against the Steelers with Benny Snell.
Then you had a 23 yarder for the Bears and David Montgomery.
The's big punch plays have shown up in the first two weeks, and there's some some level of confidence where you say, if we can mitigate those big plays, we've actually done a pretty good job containing the run game at the line of scrimmage.
Well, I I also think Adam, that stat has a lot to do with how the game plays out.
You know, you look into Chicago Bears, right? They are commanding the lead early against the New York football Giants, and we're playing from behind the entire time.
They're trying to manage time of possession.
They're they're running the ball much, much more than they're passing it.
And so that that just puts our defensive line, you know, a little bit Mawr under pressure, but also just inherently.
They're gonna end up giving more yards away.
Teams don't have to pass a much when they're winning.
Games are there, leading in the third or fourth quarter right Yeah, exactly.
This is predicated on what? We're not doing well enough offensively, and that's been kind of the tragedy of our season.
So far as we didn't think that that was gonna be his nearly big, big of an issue.
Remember to we we highlighted on on our Wednesday episode.
We we know know, say Guan Barkley the rest of the year, you're going to be without Sterling Shepard for this game.
As of right now, still nothing on the report as faras activating guys from the practice squad for the Giants.
So as it exists, and we kind of got to this on the tail end of our last episode.
Maybe it is gonna be a bit more Evan Ingram out of the slot and working into that matchup.
At which point you're talking about Kwon Williams for the San Francisco 40 Niners who plays over in that position.
They're out of the linebacker spot, needing to maybe pick up Ingram at times that maybe the balancing act from receiving standpoint for the Giants that they try to utilize against a depleted of 49 secondary.
Do you mhm e? There's There's two elements here, right? We know about boast of being out.
Then you start to look at Armstead for them.
Can he step up in that run defense area at the linebacking position? But receiving wise quiet game from Slaten? We saw the shift for the Giants go very heavy into Evan Ingram.
Target Focus On the back end of that Bears game.
After Shepard went out, we saw CJ board actually have a nice handful of catches look pretty quick in his route. Trees.
What are the expectations here for the Giants offensive? Or what do you want to see from them offensively in terms of having a balanced attack with a random new toy in the backfield in Devante Freeman from the couch to the field? Well, you know, I was thinking about this last night.
Um, in terms off house Ikhwan.
It's such an offensive weapon and everybody knows it.
And so when you start making a game script or a game plan, you say we have to get the ball into, say, Kwan Barclays hands as much as humanly possible, and you almost have to do it with super.
You know, super freakish athletic guys like him.
You almost do it to a fault, right? Like you feel like you have to get him the ball because you don't want to turn around.
And at the end of the game, say, Why did Steak on Barkley only get nine touches today like you can't have that happen.
So you actually script the game to say we have to get him the ball, which then allows the defense to say, Okay, let's match up against exactly what they want to dio here.
It's a little bit of a different situation where you actually don't have that one guy that you're like, OK, if we're San Francisco, we got to stop Golden Tate.
It's like, Okay, like if you wanna take Tate out of the game, that's fine.
We have all these other weapons and we can pivot.
So I feel like this.
You know, it's it's a weird way of of, you know, not diminishing how great safe on Barkley is.
But just saying this might make us a little bit more unique in terms of how to defend us, because we can dump passes off Dion Lewis.
We can do to tight end sets with Kate and Smith all of a sudden and get a little bit more from the tight end position.
There's a lot more creativity that we waken dio, and I don't think Joe Judge will be criticized as much for how much usage each of these players is gonna get.
Oh, and that's I don't know if I was.
If it's a part of what I talked with with Allied, do some the NFL coverage on SportsCastr, where I was saying, though, when you have these unique weapons, you end up saying, If you're a good team, if you're one of the elite teams and you have a singular talent like that, it's great because you're funneling the ball to him because you're so talented.
You're so good and you want that to be the engine of your offense or or your defense if you have a great safety, whatever it may be.
But if you're not, if you're in the Giants situation where you're rebuilding, unfortunately, when you start to try to focus so heavily on one talent, it's like what we saw in week one, right? What does Tom would come out and say, Listen, we're gonna solely focused on shutting down Barkley and will live with the rest.
And that makes it very difficult to have a balanced offensive game plan when teams are so singularly focused on shutting something down.
And you don't necessarily at least early in the year, for the Giants were optimistic about the offensive line.
You don't have the talent toe force that game plan right back at them and say, Okay, you want to try to stop Barkley, We're gonna jam them down your throat anyway, and you're gonna have to make a new move.
Now there's there's no way to say you're better off without Barkley.
But now, at the very least, if you trust Joe Judge, if you trust Jason Garrett, Hey, listen, here's all these parts.
Find a way to utilize all these guys at different points and in different ways that San Francisco has to keep making adjustments throughout the game.
That's gonna be the way that you try to dictate tempo a little bit, especially in this game with the injuries that they're dealing with on the defensive side.
Well, and the other thing I'm gonna be interested to see is, you know, with Devonta Freeman, how Maney touches he gets, but also how he runs.
We know that Iran Barkley is a freak athlete that can get it outside, and he can turn a two yard loss into a 60 yard touchdown on any given play.
Whereas Devonta Freeman is not necessarily that type of guy, where he's looking to break the huge home run play by doing something crazy athletic, he's thinking, How do I get downfield downhill as quickly as possible? Pick up his many yards as I can catch balls out of the backfield and extend plays, you know? So it's gonna be a different style of running behind Daniel Jones, where maybe we are gonna be looking for three or four yards carried to move the offense as opposed to the feast or famine.
Maybe that we were working with where you know you love the 70 yarder, but you hate the two or three yard loss is trying to make big plays happen.
Listen, let's let's sum it up here.
What are as we like to dio the key players for you in this game for the New York football giants? Give me your give me one on offense.
Give me one on defense who are the two players, and you can go a couple extra if you feel like you need Thio.
But who are those players that are going to be pivotal on both sides of the ball for the Giants toe? Have I think early success here? Early success in this game means then you can start to expect a win, right? Can't come out slow on the offensive side of the ball as we've seen these first couple of weeks, so we'll start on offense.
I think it's easy and it goes without saying that the backfield is going to be a new area of interest.
Most people are looking at Dion Lewis.
A lot of reports are coming out saying that he's going to be the featured back, knowing that Devonta Freeman is getting into things.
But I'm actually gonna move it over to Golden Tate and for me, Listen.
No Sterling Shepard.
Darius Leighton is getting all the publicity, but Golden Tate is your veteran wide receiver.
He is your wide receiver, making $10 million a year.
He is the guy that needs to come out and be that security blanket for Daniel Jones.
If various Latin is gonna move the move down the field, and he's gonna be the significant vertical threat that he showed to be against the Pittsburgh Steelers.
We need someone to be able to step up on the other side, and that could be someone like Evan Engram.
It could be Kaden Smith in 12 packages where they have two tight ends, But to me, Golden Tate is the guy.
He's the veteran leader.
He needs to be able to make tough catches and extend plays five catches for 47 yards Last week.
I I expect more from him.
I think he needs more than 47 yards a game.
And so in this one where we're going to be doing a lot of creativity, I do think we're gonna be spreading around the ball.
But I'm looking squarely at him to really help out Daniel Jones.
Yeah, you know, I'll go sub players here because I think that takes a great one, right, you're here, You're the veteran.
This is your opportunity to really claim that kind of mantle of saying This is why you bring in a veteran wide receiver because he can help you move that ball so easily You could go.
I think that be an easy one is.
Well, you mentioned Darius Slaten.
I'm gonna go lower.
I'm gonna go lower level here and I'll do the too brief to brief sub guys.
To me, Kaden Smith becomes really important.
If you're flexing out Evan Ingram into the slot potentially, then Kaden Smith is gonna be on the field even more.
And I think that he could be that chain mover guy on third downs for Daniel Jones.
So I'll be keeping an eye on him.
And then I'll be honest with you.
You mentioned about probably Lewis getting the start here and seeing how Freeman looks.
I still this isn't me over hyping him or or trying to put pressure on him to do something.
I think Wayne Goldman still becomes a little bit of a key piece here because he still represents the power back for this trio right now.
So some short yardage plays, maybe in and around the goal line, because Freeman's coming in just off of a Wednesday signing on.
Lee has a couple of days before he gets into game action.
I gotta put the expectations on Goldman may only be five or six carries in this game, but it could be the difference of converting third downs or having to punt.
So that's what I'm gonna look offensively for.
Some of those little key contributions to help keep drives alive and help keep this offense moving early in the game.
I think I think that's a good point, Adam.
You talk, You talk about being able to sustain drives.
We need to continue to keep moving the ball.
We need time of possession.
We can't have our defense on the field as much as they have been in the first two games and moving to the defensive side of the ball for me.
I have one guy that I've circled and it's Jabrill Peppers.
I am sitting here saying he has the ability to change the game in the special teams area with some of these different punt returns.
He has looked great and he's looked athletic and he's been able to move the ball pretty significantly.
I also think knowing that that they have a backup quarterback in for the San Francisco 40 Niners knowing that they are going to want the run game to be established with Jack Jerick McKinnon.
Jeff Wilson is gonna be back there as well.
I want to see peppers up in the box making plays in the backfield.
And I'm leaning on him and and thinking that you know what? Our defensive line is gonna be fine.
I think you know Dexter Lawrence is gonna be fine down with Thomas and Reiner Williams. They're gonna be good.
Where? I think we can get game changing places from a guy like peppers.
You called love? Last week, I'm calling peppers to step in and either force a turnover or make a big play on defense.
Yeah, because I think you need You need to look to this secondary and say We highlighted those stats from Mullins, right? Guys gonna take care of the ball.
But when that chance comes, you got to be ready to capitalize on it.
We obviously we're really excited about what we saw from Bradbury.
Had great, beautiful interception down the sideline.
Created the interception for Julian Love that I was asking for.
You mentioned about the defense up front there.
Obviously, we like getting four sacks against the Chicago Bears on Mitchell Robiskie last week.
I like looking inside and seeing those tackles for a loss to From Factual won from Carter B. J.
Hill even got in there on the tackle for a loss brigade.
But when you talk about those sacks and you mentioned it right, you got factual Carter Hill.
You even get Martinez.
That makes up your four sacks from last week.
What I wouldn't mind seeing here, though.
Even though you got those pressures on Travis Key, I do, actually, I want to see Dexter Lawrence in the backfield eating it up.
I want to see him get in the back field and get a couple of sacks in this game.
I think that we talk about how they've done a solid job creating opportunities for the linebacking corps to come in.
But I want pressure up the middle in the face of Mullins.
Let's put pressure on him to get rid of that ball quickly and maybe feed into an opportunity for a guy like your Bill Peppers to capitalize on the back end.
So while on at the end of the day, I may not end up getting the sacks that I want.
I can look at the stat line on the back end, look at the box score and say pressures from Dexter Lawrence Wright.
Pressures from Tomlinson.
Pressures from Leonard Williams.
Get close, Get get home if you can.
But I still want to Seymour consistent pressure because there were too many stretches in the Chicago Bears game, where they were still able to have a little bit of methodical movement on the offensive side of the ball.
Need to be disruptive upfront to create opportunities for the rest of the defense.
Yeah, I mean, my big challenge with with looking at Dexter Lance, you're looking at the defensive line.
To be the catalyst for for game changing place is that the offensive line is is not in bad shape for the 40 Niners.
You have Trent Williams as the left tackle.
He is a a stalwart who, um, played so well for the Washington football team for so many years.
It doesn't matter how old he is.
He you know, he secures the blind side for any quarterback there in San Francisco, like McGlinchey on the right hand side at right tackle, Younger guy was the ninth overall pick in the 2018 draft, but he's showing some promise.
You know, I think his Pff grade so far has been around the 61 or 62 so he's been Mawr than serviceable.
So if you know our edge rushers air gonna be going against them.
I'm looking for that second dairy to come in and try to make plays.
But seeing you know, free shots at the quarterback type of situation, No.
And, like you say, if there is one area that that adds up to a least making it a difficult matchup, it's at the offensive line.
Is strong, experienced quarterback on this roster.
So you're going to get continuity there from the 40 Niners.
It's going to take, ah, full effort on both sides of the ball.
That's why you say step up, Slaten, get a bounce back game here.
Remember, Sherman is out for them as well.
On the defensive side, there's opportunities to expose a lot of matchup.
So this comes down to me.
If we go off of the players, I say this is about Jason Garrett, right? Let's see how you scheme to take advantage of those opportunities offensively.
Same thing for Patrick Graham.
What are you going to do here to expose the weaknesses based on the injuries that we have seen? Obviously, we're gonna come back and on Sunday morning, as we always do, and give you our game predictions before we get out the door here.
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