Good morning, everybody.
And welcome to F P C.
Cut the music, cut the music, Cut the music.
You know, Mike, I'm just gonna get right into it, because I We we screwed up big time yesterday, my friend.
Really big. Really big.
I mean, like, to the point where, like, uh, seriously considered turning in our fan card type of screw up.
We were excited yesterday talking about anniversaries and this day in history and lost and Kurt Angle and all this nonsense.
Well, foolish us because And I know this and clearly you knew this, Um, but apparently that the half of our brain that we shared didn't think about it yesterday because, uh, that same day that Kurt Angle won the WWF title at Unforgiven, something else happened.
Something else happened.
Roll laterally to the 31 yard line on to 16 remains.
Keep in mind, you know that the Jets coverage teams don't have a whole lot of confidence.
They gave up a 78 yard and Terrence Wilkins in the opener in that game against Indianapolis.
So not giving the Patriots a chance to mount any kind of a return kind of a plus.
And Drew Bledsoe is on the sideline.
Tom Brady, the second year quarterback from the University of Michigan who threw Onley three passes in his rookie year last year, one for three, a six yard completion.
And this is his first duty of 2000 and one.
So apparently Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, How did we forget this? How did we overlook it? How? I just I don't understand.
I have no explanation.
Other than we, we just We dropped the ball big time.
This was, uh yeah, this was a fumble on the one yard line that caused that were like an interception.
There was There was no need for this.
This be scared up.
There was no need for this at all.
Yeah, this is, uh and I are severely considering turning in our fan car for just completely blanking out on that yesterday, Um, the most red letter day in the history of the franchise and, uh, in the history of my life.
E don't I don't I don't have any kids.
And even if I did, I would still argue that that might be the happiest.
Most important day of my life, So, yeah, so we we obviously screwed that up.
That was obviously the anniversary of the, you know, before Kurt Angle won his WWF title against Stone Cold and Unforgiven.
Uh, Tom Brady made his first start of the 2001 season, and, uh, it was three last time, Um, that Tom Brady wasn't the starting quarterback before the season.
So, you know, again, all injuries and suspensions aside, you know, he was still technically assumed to be the starting quarterback.
So, um yeah, like we we we definitely screwed that one up big time.
I, um, often is the case.
These things happen where Joe and of course, it pops up.
So it's It's like a big just punch to the gut immediately, once we get off the air.
And I sent you a message, I think shortly after, and it was just like we screwed up my friend way.
We definitely like I said, consider, uh, highly considered turning in the fan card because of that one.
Yeah, And I eat humble pie just along with you, my friend.
Just so Yeah, I I don't know how we missed it.
I don't know why we missed it, but whatever it was, we apologize to our adoring fans because I know ah, lot of the listeners that we have R and D Patriots fans.
The other, you know, listen to us, Thio hate on us about Tom Brady, and it would have provided them or fodder to hate us even more so regardless of your listening intent.
That's the reason for our apology, and we'll do better next time.
We will e can't guarantee that I can't guarantee that.
Forget September 23rd again next year.
Mark it down, folks.
We will remember that date, but it Yeah, just Yeah, I mean, an amazing day for the New England Patriots.
I mean, a tough day for Drew.
You know, I think a lot of times that gets overlooked.
You know, Bledsoe gave 110% every day out here in New England and to see him go down on Do you know Thio have his Patriots career essentially ending on that note? It was very difficult.
I was glad to see that he got the action in the A F C championship game that year.
Come in, throw the touchdown pass to David Paton go out on a high note because he did deserve it for the service and the stellar play that he provided here for a number of years.
But, uh, you know, the keys to the kingdom were given to Tom Brady in 19 years.
Things team personified excellence.
And he was a huge, huge part of that.
And no one no one can deny that.
And to his credit to, I mean he handled the entire situation as well as anyone could.
Um, considering again, he was $100 million quarterback, former first overall pick who you know again, you go back then losing your job to injury was unheard off.
I mean, we're kind of in a not so similar situation now because it's just the topic of conversation, but the it's not exactly the same.
There's so many differences to it.
But the idea that Tyrod Taylor wouldn't get his job back, uh, when he returned, most people are like, why would he you know the rookie played great.
Well, there was a time in a place where it didn't really matter.
It was really all about okay.
Did you lose your job to injury.
Well, it doesn't matter what the other guy does, You know you're coming back and you're gonna have your job back.
So when Drew didn't get his job back, that was kind of I don't want to say unchartered territory because I'm not gonna say it never happened before, But But it certainly wasn't a common thing.
And I feel like that might be lost on certainly some younger fans and those who are more used to what? You know, the current state of the NFL.
Yeah, without any question, it really was.
I mean, there was a almost, like, a handshake type of agreement with starting quarterbacks that if you go down, you're injured, you're gonna come back and you're gonna play.
Then that's just the way it's gonna be.
No matter how dynamic your replacement is, you're going to get a chance to quote unquote compete for your job.
But wink, wink, nod, nod.
That job is yours.
You know that as well as anybody.
That's kind of what the the assumption was with Drew Bledsoe.
And I mean, I don't know the intricacies of the details, only what I've read, only what I've heard throughout the years.
I wasn't involved in obviously covering that.
But there was a lot that was going on behind the scenes where Drew believed very strongly that he was going to, you know, get a chance to not only compete for his job, but also that the job would be Hiss and Bill Belichick saw something in Tom Brady.
And if you believe what you've read a lot about what Tom has said, what he said about Tom beforehand and things of that nature all of a sudden it became a, um, almost like a foregone conclusion that Bill Belichick was gonna go with Tom Brady.
Well, and this was this, in my opinion, And I think a lot of other people share the same opinion that, you know, this injury on Lee sped up the process.
This was inevitable.
Um, you know Brady was going to take over for Bledsoe again.
I don't think, uh, Belichick was ever enamored with him and, you know, at the time to we didn't really understand completely who Bill Belichick is now.
We looked at him like of course.
Well, Bill, Bill doesn't care like who you are or what you've done.
You know, it's kind of like, man, bear pig.
He doesn't care who you are or what you've done.
Uh, no, he kind of looks like man bear pig the other day.
But that's besides the point beside the point.
So eso at the time, you know, you you just you assume like a lot of people did.
And there, look, there was a lot of people that were pro pro drew up until and through the Super Bowl.
Um, there wasn't this, like, uh, consensus to to go to Tom.
I mean, this was not a, uh, universally beloved decision.
Now, again, this is long before that the Patriots were, you know, perennial Super Bowl contenders.
I mean, they were a good team.
Let's let's not pretend like they're one in 15 like a lot of people want to do.
They've only done that once in their entire franchise history.
Um, in fact, they've They've won only fewer than four games, I think five or six times since 1976.
So this whole idea that they were bottom feeder before, you know, Let's let's let's get out of 1990 1991.
Let's that there's more history there, but, um but no, look, I mean, you know, going back then, the Patriots didn't have this cash, you know, they didn't have this.
Well, Bill Bell check and make the right decision and whatever.
You know, now he gets criticized for making good decisions, which is kind of weird, but hey, whatever.
Um, so yeah, I mean, there was no cachet was a big risk.
It was a big, um, split of the fan base.
You know, eventually those people that doubted Brady sort of I mean, how could you not be won over after a certain period of time, but that there was some There was some debate there and certainly people that were wanting him to start the Super Bowl, because again, you know that the injury to Brady in the NFC championship game kind of reinvigorated that discussion that had kind of started toe Wayne a little bit.
But obviously, you know, Brady goes in, wins the Super Bowl.
Your you'd be hard pressed to find someone who would truly die on a hill for Drew Bledsoe.
After that, it might take him a little longer.
Thio come around, but, um it was getting tougher and tougher.
So yeah, we dropped the ball way.
Did we did one thing that I did want to come back on with that and, you know, I know we're spending time on this, but we didn't spend time on it yesterday.
And this is a big event for the team that Ian and I not Onley cover and, you know, idolized growing up.
But the team that's been a big part of the reason why we're football fans.
And look, um, the one thing that always surprised me was the camaraderie and the friendship that remained with Drew Bledsoe and Tom Brady.
Throughout this process, I know a few, you know, players that you know have played both alongside both of these guys that will tell you that all the pleasantries that air exchange between Tom Brady and Drew blood so in public are the same and private.
They never lost the respect for one another.
They never lost the friendship with one another.
I'm sure there were there was tension.
I mean, there's got to be, I think Drew's too.
I think Drew's even said so on his like on his own behalf and you know, and again, he's been very up front and honest about the whole situation, you know, he said he was obviously disappointed and and he's sure that he was upset and angry at times.
But you know, that's the That's how he handled himself.
Despite that, without question, eso without question And you know, and that's that's something that I think is a testament to two athletes that could very easily have fallen into a trap and not so much even Drew, because I thought he handled himself with more class than anybody could have asked him to handle himself with.
I'll always have a ton of respect for Drew Bledsoe for the way he handled that situation.
But Tom Brady as well Tom could have very easily gotten the attitude like, I'm the king now.
I'm you know, I'm the captain now, you know, And this is my team.
And yeah, you know what? I'm above the law.
Yeah, I'm bigger type of.
Yeah, exactly the type of attitude he could have had.
He always maintained that reverence for Drew Bledsoe.
And I think that was a good sign of the respect between those two guys.
All in all, it led to a 20 year period, almost a 20 year period of excellence in New England.
And Bill Belichick obviously made the right decision.
I'm like that shirt that he wore yesterday.
You know that? Yeah.
Zits called the fashion statement.
And you know what? If the those were a pair of jeans, you could buy them for $70 at at the mall somewhere in one of those high end stores Gonna become a fashion statement.
You're going to see a lot of those shirts guarantee If somebody tries to market those the Holy Hoody, maybe they might call it, I don't know, but it z going to be, uh that could be a very popular Halloween if I were.
If I were a cartoon, if I were a cartoon right now, ah, little light bulb would have a appeared right above my head.
Uh, it would have been a thing.
So it's a great idea. I like that.
Might Might Might have toe.
Yeah, I might have.
Thio, you know, put the put the creative juices toe work a little bit later.
Um, no, we eso obviously I don't think Yeah, I don't think I mentioned yesterday, but we are going to cut the show a little short today.
About 15 minutes.
Don't worry. Don't fret.
I got some previous, uh, engagements are commitments that I have to attend to.
Eso I gotta I gotta leave here right as the show ends.
But we're going to tackle.
Get it, uh, tackle Thursday night football real quick and kind of Look ahead to what? What we have here.
And that's the Miami Dolphins versus Jacksonville Jaguars.
Um, led by Mr Mustache Gardner Minshew. Andi.
There's a little bit of ah, you know, back and forth between the two quarterbacks and and not about their play, but about their facial hair choices.
And obviously, we know Brian Fitzpatrick has gone with the, you know, the Yukon.
Cornelius, look, you know Allah, Ben Roethlisberger and, uh, Gardner rent you goes with the 70 style porn stash.
So hey, what do you choose? What do you go with If you could grow a beard because clearly it looks like you're you're like me and struggle greatly and doing so, uh, mustache or beard, my friend.
Oh, I could be Ryan Fitzpatrick by the end of the week, folks. Okay.
Yeah, the Italian blood in me.
Well, e I look, I looked at the same photo every single day for the last, Like, I don't know how long.
Actually, I'm pretty sure this image is ingrained in my subconscious.
That so? We're very close.
Well, yeah, of course.
Okay, That's one of the very few times on camera that I've actually looked halfway decent and I still have a ****ed off.
You take what you can get.
You take what you can get, buddy.
You know, you beggars can't be choosers.
Picture that doesn't induce vomiting.
All kidding aside, I definitely could dio the Ryan Fitzpatrick.
We're pretty closely.
Well, then do it.
My dad stash for a number of years, I thought about growing 11 time.
There was a period where I did have that, like, mustache, goatee combination.
That look pretty hideous.
I think I'm gonna have to go with the Fitzpatrick beard on this one.
Just let it all hang out.
I'm going full Bill Belichick.
I want that beard. I want Belichick shirt.
I want that men's department that's been rattling around Twitter.
The last couple of Yeah, you know, the guys at the folding chair and the TV on the floor.
That's exactly that.
Is the existence I wanna live, folks, that that, to me, is incredible.
And I saw that yesterday morning, and I I quote to hear that used the, uh, the true detective me in the you know, time is flat surface because we see that same tweet like e.
I mean, we see every.
Okay, here's how Twitter works.
Every six months or so, the same handful of, like, tweets and various different fashions appear that tweets One of them, Um, there's a couple others.
I'm blanking on it because all my mind's going to do Is that that Saturday tweet that I have no idea.
I don't get I don't get the reference at all.
You know what I'm talking about? The computer cartoon image guy who just drives toe work.
No idea what the hell it means.
No clue. No clue.
No, I don't either.
I share your curiosity.
Have no idea what that Yeah, If you do, folks, please let us know.
We want to know these things? Yes, I'm I want Thio.
I wanna been frozen for 30 years.
Nice you got? No, That's what I feel like that I feel I feel out of loop because I don't know what's going on, but yeah, I don't I don't even know what I'm talking about.
Oh, yeah, But for May I e.
Guess, uh, gotta go that the big, burly beard there because it signifies to me a long playoff from you know what I mean.
But Gartman, she was certainly, uh, slinging around.
And, hey, if anyone took Bud light up on their offer to draft him early, they're probably doing pretty well right now because he's a couple pretty good.
Pretty good games under his belt.
Um, 512 yards, six touchdowns, two interceptions and 115 7 passer rating through two games.
So I don't think it will last.
Maybe maybe Gardner.
Is that next? I like Tom Brady.
You know, I mean, Garner has been consistently used as a punch line.
He's been consistently used as a flash in the pan.
A lot of people have been talked about that.
I think you got a good amount of notoriety for his play last year.
Very well deserved, by the way.
But this kid is a much better quarterback than he gets credit for in a lot of ways.
I think a lot of times just the joke surrounding Gardner, Minshew, and I don't say that derisively, folks.
But the joke surrounding him, I think, becomes more of the story than what he's actually able to do on the field.
This kid can lead unauthentic, and I think you're going to see that this year, really rejuvenating the fan base in Jacksonville and letting people see that.
Maybe this team is not going to be as terrible as a written generally thought.
They've got some young talent.
Well, discussion off, I think, is going Thio, you know, develop into a great receiver in this league.
Um, you know, we'll see. We'll see what happens.
And, you know, I I do.
I'll be very honest with you.
I like the Dolphins in this game tonight over the Jaguars.
I think the dolphins their due, but at the same time, you know, I think the Jags have the the the upper hand when it comes to playing as a cohesive unit.
This is not gonna This is gonna be a pretty good game tonight.
I'm looking forward to it that with the battle of the Floridians down there, yeah, there should be a big game for you, buddy.
No, I don't I don't really care.
I appreciate it. I appreciate.
I just feel like I'm not.
A lot of energy, a lot of the times.
A lot of the energy comes from caffeine.
I'm not gonna lie, but I I'm not gonna waste.
Yeah, I'm not gonna waste my fake energy on Jacksonville in Miami.
Look, um, we talked about it a little bit.
Thea Other day, I I don't remember.
Don't take my word.
On what day is what I think Miami is the third best team in this division.
I think the jets are firmly, uh, it's a plant, you know, firmly, uh, set in that four spot and I think you know, one and two is going to shake out over the season.
between Buffalo, New England S O.
Miami, I think, is in a They're in a place right now where I think it's more likely that they play spoiler and they can beat some good teams.
I just I need to see them now.
Take that next step.
All this, uh, I don't want to use the honeymoon phase is over, but I think there was a lot of positives coming out of what was really on paper.
Bad season for the Dolphins last year.
Um, you can't repeat that and expect to get the same sort of positive energy.
You have to take a step further.
So I think the Dolphins Aaron kind of Ah, I almost used the word almost used it and and would have fumbled it and would have not been able to pronounce it there in a very unique situation.
See, I caught myself this time.
Um, very well done.
Yeah, I'm on top of things.
Uh, so I don't I don't know what to make of this team, and I really don't.
You know, I I think that they're going to take the next step.
I really dio, but part of me feels like you can't do that until you go to the next guy.
I mean, if you're with, if you have Ryan Fitzpatrick, you kind of know what you are.
You know what I mean? There's there's no, you know, I'm not saying this is all in Ryan Fitzpatrick.
That's not what I'm saying.
I just I feel like this Dolphins team can't take the next step without moving to their friend next franchise quarterback.
You know what I'm saying? Like I feel like put it, keeping Ryan Fitzpatrick in there just toe help you win a few extra games doesn't really do you any good.
Um, because again, we know what Ryan Fitzpatrick is.
And he's not that he's not the answer.
He's not the long term answer.
So does that make sense? Does that make sense? I think we're even Ryan.
That makes that makes perfect sense.
And I think even Ryan would be the first to admit that.
He said so in the off season.
Look, I know I'm a placeholder.
You don't say that in a press conference.
When you meet with the media well, he's a smart guy.
You went to Harvard where your place in this organization is you went to Harvard? Absolutely.
You know, very If it's magic, you know, it's all part of a package.
But I think in a lot of ways what Bryan Flores is doing in Miami is giving the opportunity to hand the keys to the kingdom to two.
It's on the below when this team is capable of taking that next step.
Brian knows this team better than anyone else.
I think he probably looks at the squad and says, Well, maybe we haven't taken the step that a lot of people thought we take early on or that we will take, you know, forward.
They've also had a couple of, you know, tough tasks.
Let's face it, they had to pay for based in New England Patriots in Week one, Buffalo Bills and weak to two very good divisional opponents that know their tendencies very well.
Miami took it toe Buffalo and really put 28 points up on that defense, which is impressive considering what they were not able to do against the Patriots just the week before.
So when you look at what this team is capable of doing and moving forward, it wouldn't surprise me to see them take the game tonight against Jacksonville, maybe string together some positive performances.
And then at that point, you look at what to a tongue of below it and say, Okay, now this team is starting to do what we needed to do.
Take the ball, Run with it. Let's see what you've got.
The other side of the coin is, is if they're starting to play very well and they're clicking, do you remove the hot hand of Ryan Fitzpatrick? Back is the hot hand and go with the new guys.
There's there's a lot of question marks there, but I agree with you.
I think at some point this season we're going to see two.
Hey, here's the thing, though.
We know we're going to get hot Ryan Fitzpatrick.
But you know what? What else? We're also going to get fits tragic at some point as well.
I mean, again, this is It's not a knock on Fitzpatrick.
It's just who he is.
That's why he's a journeyman quarterback who has had some success in this league.
But the reason why his success hasn't uh, kind of like the Dolphins gone to the next level is that he's not capable enough for doing that.
He's just he's that guy who's who's who's a pretty good veteran quarterback in this league.
And if he if you need someone, toe win you a few games to get on a really hot streak, Ryan Fitzpatrick is the guy.
I mean, every single year we go through this where it's like, you know he gets off, he's gonna have a stretch where he plays phenomenally.
He may come in and and maybe upset the Patriots or beat the Buffalo Bills.
And it's it's fits magic all over again and all that stuff.
And then again, eventually it's just going to taper off.
I mean, it's not gonna be a disaster every time, but he's going to come back to the to the normal toe what he is, and it's just a pretty good quarterback.
But, um so, yeah, I don't think I'm not advocating for to it to be in there like next week.
I'm just saying that I think for this team, uh, to take the next step, they need to put two and as opposed to waiting until they're capable of taking that next step before they put to it.
You know what I'm saying, Like I think to it, is the key to taking that next step, because I I don't think that they're going to make much progress with Ryan Fitzpatrick and then that that means, in my opinion, that doesn't mean winning more games.
That means, you know, again, you could.
You could win fewer games and have a more positive outlook if you get your you know what I'm saying? Like maybe maybe there's just too much caffeine in my mind's racing right now, So maybe Maybe maybe I should just stop.
It's just money.
Yeah, I just think you're limited.
Yeah, I I think you're on one of those John Blue talks key u E O.
But you're making a good point, and I think that a lot of respects when it comes to knowing when to put in a new quarterback, knowing when you've essentially reached the peak of everything that you're going to get from your current quarterback, I think the Miami Dolphins in the air when it comes to Ryan Fitzpatrick, I don't think there's any question about that.
They know what he is.
They know what he's not and to me, there's no greater ceiling that he's going to ascend.
Thio two, on the other hand, is the face of the franchise.
So when do you make that choice to hand the keys to the kingdom over to the new face of the franchise? We go back to the New England Patriots with Drew Bledsoe, and Tom Brady will bring it full circle.
That choice was taken out of the hands of Bill Belichick.
But again, if you believe a lot of the narrative that surrounded that story, that transfer of power was going to take place during 2001 season, it wasn't whether or not you know they were going to continue to ride Drew for the rest of the year.
Ah, lot of people connected to that organization have said that Bill Belichick's plan all along was to transition into Tom Brady.
There was something he saw in this kid, obviously would.
Clearly, clearly everyone e on he waas.
He was absolutely correct and it was the correct decision without any question, but that decisions have sort of taken out of Bill Belichick's hands.
His hand was forced when drew blood someone down the injury.
I'm not saying that.
You know, if you're Miami Dolphins fan, that that's the ticket to see him, too.
But you never, ever want to see anybody have to go through an injury.
But when is Bryan Flores look at this team and say this team is now ready to played under two inch and below? Uh, I can a lot of ways.
Bill was waiting to see if this Patriots team was gonna be capable of playing alongside of Tom Brady.
Ultimately, it just happened to, you know, work out where Bill needed to, you know, make that choice any.
I think if you see Miami start to really struggle out there and they just don't look like they're making any type of stride, then you may even see that hand forced quicker.
Then you're gonna start Thio here.
Smatterings of people saying Miami needs something.
They need a shot in the arm.
They need a little bit of life injected.
They need to go to to it.
I think you start Thio hear that chatter, But ultimately Bryan Flores is gonna make the decision.
That's best for the football team.
He's cut from the same cloth is Bill Belichick.
He's not going to cave into public opinion.
He's going to go with it when he feels ready.
So what you got for a score here? I didn't tally up last week's I will do that for tomorrow. Show.
We will factor in this one so we can kind of see where we stand before we give our picks tomorrow.
But what's your score for this game? What do you got? Uh, my score for this game, I think, is gonna be relatively low.
I'm not very low scoring, but relatively low scoring.
I have Miami winning by a field goal on this when I happened 24 21 over the Jacksonville Jaguars.
Ah, and I have the bag wires.
I like that. For some reason.
The jag wires, um, winning 24 21.
So we differ right off the bat.
So I like that I I like disagreement like that.
So no, it's true.
And it'll make for interesting show tomorrow, and I think that's always a good thing.
You know, variety is the ****e of life.
I may share half of the same brain, but don't always that those hats don't always agree.
So it always makes for a better radio When we got a little bit a little bit of Ah, you know, e don't wanna say animosity.
It's wrong choice of words.
But, you know, a little difference of opinion, I guess, is the best way we can. We can make an animosity.
We could get really vicious with the Sid Vicious, if you will.
Um, you know, you know Russell Russell Wilson is currently the betting favorite for M v.
P. Right now, it's no surprise, no surprise.
But I must say, though, and I heard this yesterday, and I don't often Yeah, I don't get a chance to or least, uh, listen or watch a lot of the morning sports shows.
Obviously we do the show, so it's kind of hard to do both, um and and you know, for the most part, I mean, a lot of the morning shows are the debate shows, and I couldn't I couldn't care less about what goes on there.
I kinda already know.
I know the script.
It's the same thing every single day.
But I was watching or listening to get up yesterday, and I heard something that That brought a smile to my face because it was essentially the same exact thing I've been saying.
And it came out of the mouth and Dominic Fox worth and he said, I don't believe that, you know, I don't or he Okay, now I'm paraphrasing.
But essentially, he said he doesn't believe, like, May that you know, Patrick Mahomes is so far and above the best quarterback in the league or better than his peers.
Like that was kind of like, Bend my point.
And I I heard that.
And I just remember that.
And it brought a smile to my face.
Like because I think I think this is going to start picking up a little bit more steam as we go on, we'll find out because we're going to get promo to exhaustion this weekend for Patrick Mahomes And in Lamar Jackson, Um, on Monday night, so, you know, get ready for it.
I mean, you're going to see it.
You're going to hear about it.
People are gonna talk about it.
It's I've already seen people call this potentially the matchup of the century, Mike.
The century, this and beyond.
But still the okay, we only got to do with the whole country.
Well, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Nothing's bigger than contrary.
That that was no, Um but yeah, I e k because I don't want to get on off on a tangent, because again, we do have toe cut the show a little short today.
Um, but yeah, it's it's I do enjoy it, because again, I do think I'm right.
Um, I do think more people are starting to kind of see, you know, and in this happens Look, this happens.
He's won a championship.
It's his his awards probably, you know, getting close to peaking.
You know what I'm saying? Because if you keep winning, you know, you don't keep peeking like this, you know what I mean? People love Drew Brees because he doesn't win that much.
Let's be honest, right? Right, e There is something to be said about that.
I think the argument could be made out Well, I mean, having won Super Bowl E won a Super Bowl, but his closest more prolific, his closest Harrison is Tom Brady.
So all these guys, you know, even if e Peyton Manning 12 and went to four but he was more far more beloved than Tom Brady.
Um, normally, if he was the standard of success people or hate Peyton Manning, you know, so so it it how it's how it's how it works.
It is how it works and there's there is no question about it.
It Z yeah, I think a lot of it is that underdog mentality.
A lot of it is how they're marketed.
How the media nice in a lot of amazing trying to be careful with with with with my word to say that you know, some some players or media darling, some players aren't, you know? I mean, it just It depends on on what you're seeing.
I think there's a lot more gravitation toward a guy like Mahomes, maybe than a guy like Mark Jackson. I don't know.
I know if you know, being a Manning was always more beloved than than Brady there, there is no question about it.
I think Breeze has enjoyed a little bit Mawr media good feeling than even a guy like like Aaron Rodgers, who's been very well covered in the media.
He's been very well, you know, hyped up without any question.
But I always think Breeze had more of a beloved factor, maybe because of the way that portrayed so a lot of ways.
I think the media creates a lot of it as well.
Know for sure, Absolutely.
And you know, look, this this, you know, it's not Patrick Mahomes getting up there on TV, debating with someone else about Oh, no, no, I'm clearly the best.
I'm so much better than this that it's never about the players doing this stuff.
You know? Maybe LeBron what LeBron would do that like Sorry. Sorry. Sap.
I know you might be listening, but LeBron would would absolutely do that.
He would get up there and have a debate show about him being the greatest basketball player of all.
I mean, he's essentially done this on multiple occasions.
He's gone up in spoken about this.
So aside from LeBron James, you know, these guys aren't up there.
Debating s so so it is media driven.
It's fan driven.
Um, but most part, the players that we have mentioned are very humble.
When yes, about their place.
Um, Lamar Jackson, one of the more humble quarterbacks you hear him always give credit to quit.
Credit is due to everyone else but himself.
For all intents and purposes, Patrick Mahomes as well he'll be the first to get up there and say his teammates around him or the big reason for his success showing.
Always showing a lot of class, um, you know, even breezing.
And then, for that matter and and Brady, I mean, these guys even Manning in his day, you know, you get guys that just they understand.
Let's he was talking about Michael Vander Jack E.
Well, that's one time I really did agree with what he called like Janet Jackson.
Idiot e remember watching that? I really I mean, as a Patriots fan, you dislike.
You hated Peyton Manning, but you respected the hell out of them.
That was one moment where I said, All right, I'm taking my Peyton Manning hate down E love that that was great.
And that was fun.
So, yeah, there are.
There are some moments where, you know, players do, you know, kind of let things slip like that.
But for the for the most part, its's it is a humble group that we mentioned, of course, Of course, I was.
Like I said, I'm happy, though, that, um at least this idea is is out there floating.
I'm not the only one.
Maybe I wasn't first, but, you know, maybe maybe people are starting Thio kind of take notice and realized because, look, uh, if Mahomes goes out and plays like he did in last week, and yeah, again, I understand they won the game and he made, you know, a really good throw at the end That led to the victory.
You can't hope and pray against the Ravens like that.
You know, you can't.
You can't play 3.
5 quarters of bad football or poor football.
I don't wanna say bad that maybe a little too harsh.
Um, poor football or certainly not football becoming of the greatest quarterback in the league right now.
I mean, I say that very, uh, with a lot of sarcasm.
You can't do that against the Ravens.
And if if he does, and all of a sudden Lamar Jackson plays like he has been since, you know, all all but the playoff game last since last season.
Uh, I think it's going to take pick up a lot of steam because it's on the national spotlight.
All of a sudden, I think even the most like casual fans.
Wait a minute, Wait a minute.
I've been listening to people tell me that this guy right here is this this godly quarterback who's so far and above better than everyone else.
But he got outplayed by by Lamar Jackson, who if you if you check the resume, there's only one big thing, obviously the Super Bowl championship that's missing from Lamar Jackson's resume to to, you know, stack up with Patrick problems.
So again, I think the conversation and and and you you probably know where I'm going to go with this and how I'm gonna pick and how I'm gonna ah, pick with my not with my head.
We're not gonna pick with my head with this game, okay? Not that I ever used my head for anything else, but I'm certainly going to pick with my my hopes in this one, and I think again, if if it plays out the way I think it's going to play out and we'll get into it a little bit more tomorrow, and certainly on Monday.
Uh, I think a lot of this discussion is going to start coming and it's going to start Cut.
You know what? Pause.
Think about what you're going to say.
Reward it, Say it a lot more appropriately, because I was I was I was putting myself into a corner there, and I was going to say something that would would have made for a very, um, embarrassing soundbite.
But anyways, the Ravens in this discussion will be will be, ah, developing quickly.
Let's just Let's just put it this way.
Let's just say it.
Well, this may be the catalyst for this discussion to grow and expand.
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