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Welcome, Uh, this is an opportunity for us to put to bed the game that we just had.
So we're gonna put to bed.
We're gonna spend about first half of the show putting the bed.
The Miami Dolphins game of which the Buffalo Bills went in there and just kicked the door in and planning the Buffalo Bills flag went to and Oh, and we're gonna move on to the Rams.
It's a tough game.
It's gonna be exciting to see kind of how this game shapes out.
But we gotta pay some bills first.
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So welcome into this show.
What we're gonna do is we're gonna talk about let's let's I want to talk about the dolphins a little bit.
I don't I put it out there today on Twitter that like I'm not I haven't come down from the high yet.
Have you come down from the high of that win? yet like No, no, man, it was It was.
The thing is, I didn't really get a chance to talk about it until my podcast.
So this morning, you know, everybody got to hear my reaction to It s So it's been a couple of days and, you know, working from home.
I don't get the interaction that I used to get with people at work and all that stuff.
So where you where you at? What is what is the final thought is is And I'd love to know final thoughts from from from from the guys in the chat too.
So what is your final thought right now on that Bills Miami game? This is my final thought, and I know I know it was Miami.
I know it was the Jets.
Here's the thing.
So last year, the Jets didn't have a bad defense.
I get that they lost.
You know, Adams, and get that there's a couple of pieces that aren't there anymore.
But the defense, mostly the defense was good and they have a defensive coordinator whether you like him or not, who generally still has a team that they perform for him.
They also perform some illegal things for him.
Like to try toe, take people out, but they perform well for him.
So the thing is, we did that against a defense that typically is pretty silent.
Miami got some good free agent pickups over the off season, and they play hard for that coach.
So again, I know the injury happened in the first quarter, so that really did help the passing game.
So I won't act like that.
But, man, listen, I am and I am ant.
There's a There's a lot to be excited about, like there is a There is a ton to be excited about.
You know, when you when you think about just the way that Josh Allen played what you know, we saw it was interesting to me because coming into this game it was It was funny how fast the narrative change.
So the narrative went from the Miami Dolphins have the number one pass defense in the NFL, primarily because Cam Newton only throw 175 yards against them and he had to commit basically to run.
And that's what he had to dio to Josh Allen coming in and putting up 400 plus on him and four touchdowns.
It was like, Well, the defense kind of sucks.
I mean, the only beat the Dolphins.
So that, to me, was interesting just how fast that narrative changed.
And meanwhile yeah, and the and the narrative on Josh Allen is slowly beginning to turn.
It was just interesting to me when you think of them now, obviously, uh, what's his name? Is it Jones? Jones went in the first quarter in the like the very first Siri's that Z and I talked about it on my show.
That is, that was a huge loss for the Dolphins.
Now the play that he went out on.
Coincidentally enough, it's worth saying Diggs was open up like it was the situation where he had digs blanket ID and I mean, digs had him had to step on him.
And then he went down with I think it was a growing whatever it was he went down on.
But Xavi and Howard is legit, like they've got a great defense.
Their defensive line is good.
Uh, the M V P conversation came sooner than expected.
PR Kingpin has been on that M V P train all summer long, like I'm here to it, he's There's receipts in the BF chat has been all about it, and that's what we're talking about tonight.
I mean, tonight is about the hype train and who's on board? Are you on board the hype train? And as we're recapping this Miami Dolphins game, you know I'm on the hype train and I want to see watching, watching the Bills put together what they put together from an offensive standpoint, meaning guys running free.
It was man free all over that defensive backfield, and Josh looked like a completely different quarterback from from last year when we saw him not erratic but firing the football in.
So there was there was a little bit more of a sense of urgency last season and the season before of like that, guys open, get him the ball right now versus Sunday.
It was very much I got a guy over there and I'm just gonna put the ball where I wanna put it.
And he just basically was touch passing the ball, all of the football field, which is a Josh Allen we have never seen.
We've never seen that Josh Allen way.
We've never seen a quarterback like that this, uh, this decade.
You know, we just don't have that in Buffalo.
So the excitement, I think, is obviously I think it's warranted.
I'm happy that Bills fans are excited.
It's a good week to be a Bills fan.
Don't let the negativity from outside of Buffalo ruin your vibe because the thing is, they're not going to admit it right away.
It's just not gonna happen.
It's just not We got a question here from, uh, truck Reviewer, I guess, uh, if Dawson Knox is out for an extended period of time, could you see the Bills moving? Gave Davis Gabriel Davis to tight end? Or do you see them trading for another tight end with Minnesota for Earth Smith or Yeah, well, first, I'll let you go, though you're good to take it.
I don't ever see gave Davis being switched to a tight end position.
He's a receiver, he's a wide receiver.
He's not big enough.
His body isn't built to be a tight end.
Um, e could see a trade.
Well, I don't know if I would want Rudolph for Smith, though.
like and in the chat, everybody hit us up.
I'm actually I'm on the bandwagon that I think that dos and knocks actually needs to be benched as it is and play Gilliam like I'm a Gilliam fan.
I said that early in the year in the summer before he made the team, and I'm still in it now.
I think Dawson knocks.
He has all the talent in the world.
When he has the ball in his hands, the problem is getting him the ball.
He's not a running back, so we can't hand it off to him.
I was surprised today and yesterday when all the chat, like the bills mafia was like going on and on about, like, going to get Zach Ertz.
Um, you know, And then I was I was surprised again when the Bills released Jason Crew, which I think probably led to some of that chatter about about Zach Ertz.
Um, for me, I I'm with you.
I don't see Yeah, right.
Um, I don't Andrew.
Yeah, I don't see that happening, but yeah, give me any O. J. Howard.
Um, I, uh I don't see the bill's going in and making a splash in free agency.
I think there's an aspect of, you know, we've got the splash in free agency at tight end in one. Tyler Kroft.
I was chatting with somebody on Twitter about this.
Just think was yesterday.
You know, I think the bills were happy with Tyler Kroft.
It doesn't mean that they're happy with the group completely, but I think they're happy with the money that they're paying.
Tyler, we haven't really seen from Tyler Kroft.
What? He can give us the pullout King.
What a great name.
Well, I got two kids.
I'm definitely not king.
Let me finish my thought, and we'll get to that, um, Reggie Gillian to me, I think that the reason that they made him kind of that half back, I think that if they were really desperate, he probably would play tight end.
But I think Sweeney's coming in on.
They're gonna, you know, obviously used cross.
They're gonna utilize Croft as much they're gonna they're gonna they're gonna dance with the one that came with I think at this point in time, I don't see that making a midseason trade.
They didn't do it last year.
It was evident last year that the Bills needed a number one wide receiver that, as good as a wide receiving corps, was Josh needed somebody.
That was a true to find number one and was widely debated.
Bye bye, announcers, by media types, by all of us on Twitter, the bills there was rumors that they were kind of dabbling around, but they didn't really make a move.
I just don't see them making a move this year.
I think they're gonna dance with one.
You can't. They came with Andi. I think.
I think they want Knox to be something, and I think Knox can.
He's just got to get it figured out.
So give it what? Thank you for the Super Chat Pullout King.
Yeah, and he says, Hey, hopes Josh throws it down Ramsey's throat, and he's on the hype training.
He, you know, we better win.
Have a bet with a co worker, was a Rams fan.
What do you think about going after Earth's? Um, that's what we're just talking about.
Yeah, so we we agree about, so I don't necessarily think it's it's We have to go and get hurts.
I think that We have the talent on the roster, but I just don't I don't know what the coaching staff is going to do.
What do you think about that? You just kind of said about Earth e Like Zachary.
I'm not saying I don't like him.
Be interesting to see the bills go after something like Tyler Eifert like, and I, Tyler Eifert has just vanished off the face of the planet like Eifert was a legit like number one tight end like top 10 tight end, top 87 tight end of the NFL in the last two years.
Like since he had that injury injury.
He's just completely vanished.
That's the guy we might be able to go get relatively cheap.
I just don't see the Eagles given up.
Hurts like and that's the right.
I mean, do you see it? I mean, no.
I mean, they're not rebuilding.
They're not gonna take weapons away from Carson Wentz.
At this point, I don't think What do you think about the first half of the question about Rams? Because you know Ramsey last last year, Year before? Two years ago, you said that Josh was trash.
Did you watch any of the interviews this week like to know? Today has been crazy, so I haven't been able to go back and watch when we get done.
Eso every just Everybody knows J.
Spence is on the West Coast.
He's in Arizona.
So for him, three hours behind us, he just got off work, like literally.
And I've been off work for several hours.
So I do all my homework for this show, and I put, like, the preview together like the intro song that you saw with the video s.
So it's a little bit more difficult for J spends to kind of catch up to where I am.
It's weird that three hour difference is weird.
It is, um, but but everybody was congenial.
A lot of the pressers asked.
So like they asked digs, they asked, Obviously, Josh Allen and everybody you know, digs gave the Well, that was two years ago, and it sounds like football.
And then Allen was like, that was two years ago, and it just kind of is what it is like.
I don't know what to think, you know, Is this a team that are these players like, Are you talking about Josh Allen? You know, because clearly, I think at this point in time, Josh Allen, you know, the guys in that locker room love him.
They trust him. They wanna play with him.
Has he won digs over far enough That digs is like, You're my guy, like, and I got your back.
So are they saying what they need to say? Like on like on the radio in an interview? And meanwhile, Sunday comes and they're going to, like, not force the ball, but they're gonna do what they can to exploit, exploit Ramsey.
I can say this, Alan did Goes far as to say We have to be careful of him.
He's a great player.
Uh, he's dominant.
He's one of the best in the league.
However, we're not going to shy away from him.
So that was one of the things that Allen said.
That was literally a direct quote from Alan.
So Well, it's gonna be a great matchup.
Digs on Ramsey is gonna be a great matchup this weekend.
You think is gonna be a great matchup, I think.
I don't think I don't think Ramsey can can hang with digs.
I think I think the thing that benefits the bills is that that the Rams run a zone defense and Allen plays really, really well, traditionally has played very well against his own defense.
Uh, digs obviously plays well against the zone D zone defense.
Ramsey can play both zone and man, so he's strong.
Um, I think it's gonna be a fun matchup to watch.
I think they're gonna put Ramsey on an island with digs, and they're gonna They're gonna fight all day long. That's what I think.
And I think Allen's gonna find I don't know what he's gonna how many's gonna find him for Is it gonna be 8 452? Touchdown, I don't know, but I think that digs will keep Ramsey occupied enoughto open up the field for Brown and and Beasley all day long.
What's up through the hearts? Welcome in.
Would you trade a second for Mike Giesecke? And I got corrected from my show? It's Kasicky and I could never say it right.
Kasicky I love my kasicky.
I got corrected by one of our listeners who I guess he went toe high school with Mike's parents.
What was the rest? That question would trade a second a second.
Uh, I would all day long.
I mean, Grosicki.
He's an interesting prospect because he's super dominant when he plays and then he'll vanish for three or four games at the time.
Like literally won't even make make make the stat sheet.
You would try to second for him a second.
I like him that much.
Um, wow, maybe less.
You know, maybe if you're gonna move somebody else to to the Dolphins, somebody you know, I don't know.
To me, he's worth it.
He's worth a second.
He's a dominant side end, in my opinion, Zach, Zach says Bilson 2021 1st, 2021 3rd and Tyler Cross for herbs.
I say, No, no, that's too much.
There's way too much.
You're You're talking too rich for my blood there, Zack.
Take it real quick. I'm gonna see how long it has been in the league. Hang on.
Um, So my man Chris here says, Man, we are too, and Oh, and Josh is playing like an M V p.
And you guys want to gut the team because the second year tight end isn't playing well.
You need to relax.
That really Chris Yankee right there. That is Chris.
Yeah, really? That is crazy.
Well, listen, here's the thing s so I don't think And maybe I'm just not looking at the comments properly.
I don't think the comments are saying that that we want to gut the team.
I just think I think the thing is, um, a lot of us have grown frustrated with are tight end position.
Last year, it was clearly a area of weakness for us because of the drops coming from Dawson, Knox and the injuries to Croft and everything else that that you can kind of add and throw into that.
So it's not necessarily that we want to gut the team, but we you can see like when you look at the offense, I know we didn't quite perform the way that we obviously would have wanted to with running back room.
But, you know, we have two good running backs and you know that's not gonna happen.
Every week you look at the wide receivers.
We hope what happened the last two weeks happens every week, that would be great.
So then, when you look at the tight ends, we haven't had it like a dominant game from the tight end room.
What was the last game that you can remember where you're like You're the Titans? Absolutely came out and dominated.
I can't It would have been Dawson Knox.
Last year against the Dolphins, he scored a touchdown and had a dominant decent game against the Dolphins.
I I think I think somebody in the chat just put relax, you know, Thio, quote Aaron Rodgers.
And I think I think we need to relax.
I don't think we're in a situation where Knox is needing to be benched.
I think we're in a position where let's just, you know, we're to know ladies and gentlemen, and we're in a situation with a season with no pre season where we're not sure who's real and not yet, like, we don't know who's pretenders and who's for real, and we believe with continuity that this this Bills team is for real.
However, let's just take a deep breath, you know what I mean? Like, let's let Dawson get healthy and let's just kind of see what happens.
The reality is that I would leave it.
I would say this if the Bills wanted to bench Dawson knocks, they could bring in Lee Smith, make him active.
Make him that third tackle that they love to do with him and just throw the ball to Beasley Brown and digs all day long.
James Socks Man, thank you so much for the Super Chat.
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So James Sok says Alan Digs are going to shred Ramsey and the Rams D.
I am what? Not cautiously optimistic.
What am I? I am hopeful.
I'm I'm I'm excited to see what this football team is going.
I'm worried a little bit about Aaron.
Am I worried? Yes.
Are you worried about Aaron? Aaron Donald at all? You're not worried, So I'm worried a little bit just to see how this this offensive line is gonna handle him.
This isn't the first time we played Aaron.
This isn't the first time we played Robert Woods as a Ram.
This isn't the first time we played golf.
We played them four years ago and we beat them.
Um, I think we beat them soundly.
If I'm not mistaking McCoy.
Had a day, right? Didn't the shaman today s So I'm excited to see what Josh Allen is gonna do against this team.
And what's funny is I saw some place on Twitter today.
They were talking about the Rams being multiple and they could come at you many different ways.
Well, guess what? Soaking the Buffalo bills like.
And not only can they come in two different ways offensively, they could literally defensively in multiple, and and our linebackers were in practice today.
It's not a guarantee that they're going to play Sunday, but it's a very good sign that we're gonna have Matt and Tremaine back.
Listen, if we have match from, if we have were at full strength on defense and were at full strength on offense, I'm not worried about the Rams game.
And we're getting ahead.
We still want to kind of live in that dolphin space a little bit.
What's up with Joshua? Joshua Arnold? Thank you so much for the Super Chat. Pre season is over.
We're playing the big boys now, dude, it's nice getting a warm up, a couple warm up games, is it not how Now he says that, uh, important for four weeks stretch coming up, Let's get it.
And this is the stretch where we're gonna find out who the real players are and who the Pretenders are from an NFL team standpoint.
What's up, Davion? You could read that one.
My guy who said the next four games would define our season In his opinion, I would agree, because you know in that in that four game period, obviously we're ended up that four game.
By the way, I will be in Buffalo for that fourth game that he's talking about there on October 14th, when we go Or is it the 15th? The 15th when we go up against the Kansas City Chiefs were going to be at McGruder's on Broadway.
We would love for you guys to come out here is the problem.
It's a It's a limit on the amount of people who can come.
So we will find out everything that we can and I will.
Joe and I will figure out a good creative way to, you know, to make sure everybody who wants to be there is there.
But please, guys, if if fans aren't allowed at the game, please come kick it with us and, you know, have some fun with us that McGruder's.
But But yeah, I agree with Davian.
The next four games will absolutely define it.
If we go three and one over the next four games, right, I would I would say we're legitimate Super Bowl contenders.
I made him a justice of my microphone to tell me if that's any better.
I don't know if I'm having issues with my micro with I'm having issues with all of my technology.
I'm having issues with my microphone.
I'm having issues with my cameras tonight, but Yes, Thio J.
Spencer's point. We would love to see you at McGruder's.
Uh, did you tell them to limit the capacity? It's 50.
We can only have 50 people there.
We're gonna probably have to figure out some way to not ticket.
We can't ticket, but probably reserve seats or whatever.
Man, You guys are on fire tonight with super chats.
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You know what I'm wishing? Clocking My dog just left out the room.
But I'm with you.
Yeah, that's funny. That's funny.
Eso Yeah, but we would love to see your recruiters before the chief's game.
And what's interesting and exciting is, you know, and and the wild card and all that is are they gonna be letting fans back in the stands by that point in time? Which, if they do, is this season ticket holder.
I don't know how that lottery is gonna work or if they're gonna offer tickets to season season ticket holders first, So we're just gonna have to see what happened.
Tim, you don't You don't have to Super chat were saying there's a ton of comments, so we'll put them up.
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Spence turned into Robbie.
Robbie got a good thing going.
He's a good dude, but he said he could hear us.
Eso some people said they couldn't earlier, but then some people said they can't.
So I did some updating on some of my just software stuff as far as on some of the things.
And for whatever reason, nothing is playing nice tonight.
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Right? So, uh, just don't manscaping my house.
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I always man escaped before I travel.
So you have no worries here, Chris one last thing about the McGruder sing.
I don't if you said this, we're also working on getting giveaways.
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I've heard the rubber wrist bands.
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I haven't confirmed it yet, but I might.
Something special might happen that night.
He hasn't told me that.
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That's why I just said, like, just now, I got the text right now.
So case you don't know J.
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So Miami So getting back before we put Miami to bed and we've got a couple more minutes to talk about Miami.
What was what stuck out and what surprised you the most? Not Josh Allen in that football game.
Um, how dramatic of a difference it was without Matt Milano.
Like I know that they're talented, like I know.
But when you when you look at the roster like okay, but we still like, we're talented across the board.
Without Matt and Tremaine, it was like our defense just didn't look like our defense.
Yeah, you've heard me say it.
100 We haven't really spent a whole lot of We haven't had many games without Edmonds, So there hasn't really been a true in the last couple of years, a true litmus test of what the defense is like without Tremaine.
We've spent some time without without Milano, and we've all said it that this defense is different without Milano in it.
Without both of them in it, it was downright scary.
And, you know, Tyrell Johnson played well.
Like I wasn't disappointed with the way that Johnson played.
Played he He wasn't the game wasn't too big for him.
He didn't get lost.
He didn't get beat super bad.
I think the hard part for me was just tow. Watch the middle.
The middle of that field between the hash marks get exposed over and over and over again.
The most surprising thing for me for that game was a C.
Levi Wallace have the game that he had, and I know that Erin Quinn was on your show this morning and he said that, you know, he didn't have his bad of a game is it? Looked like I disagree, like, Hey had a bad football game.
He could not break passes up.
He could not get in the right position.
He was getting owned up and down the field, and it was always at some point in time, you think that he would just line up and stand on the hash mark, knowing that that's where they're going.
Like Fitzpatrick, I tweeted it.
At one point, Fitzpatrick is breaking the huddle, walk into the line, identifying where Levi Wallace is and then throwing the ball in the middle of field to Levi Wallace.
Guy like every single play and yeah, so what was that super chat? Sorry.
No, you're good.
It was exactly saying that he's late, but is there any word on Tremaine in Milano? And And that's kind of what we were just talking about.
So they practiced today.
There's no problem here.
Let me take that down.
So you know, I can see the injury report So they practiced today in the in the limited capacity.
So it's good news because obviously they're able to really participate.
But it's still not a for sure thing if they're going to be able to play Sunday.
So we're hoping we're crossing our fingers, but I think I think it's gonna be good.
Sync What happened? Speaking Levi Wallace Wallace was on the field today with Milano and was jumping up and down and pointing at Milano and basically saying, He's back.
He's back. Thank God he's back.
Edmonds was in a red non contact jersey.
He was practicing.
He was just in a red, non contact jersey.
Um, you took that down.
Sorry on Beacon Transition.
Everybody wants to talk about the Rams.
Everybody is literally on the hype train.
And the reality is, is like you guys are super super chat in the crap out of this thing, which is awesome.
My brother Andrew Miller, 4 99.
Thank you so much for the super chat.
The lack of play for Ceron when Marlow and everyone were suffering, that was the most surprising thing for you, for that game.
Um, I would agree Way went into that game and everybody was talking about Sara Neil being on Mike Grosicki like that's what they thought.
Like the bigger the bigger defensive back, the Nickelback that we would have would be the guy that would line up and kind of take that.
And the reality was, is it felt like they put Levi Wallace on an island like they were like, No, believe it is our guy and we're gonna leave him alone.
And, like just over at one point in time, I heard on the on the broadcast 13 targets, 129 yards, all of Levi Wallace.
And I don't think that this is a situation off.
Well, it sucks to be the guy on the other side of Trey White.
I don't think that's it.
I think it's literally he got beat all day long.
So and and people keep saying that like people keep using that like, Well, if you're on the other side of Trey White, you're going to get, you know, targeted a ton because people don't want to throw to Trey, and that's true.
But here's the thing.
If you if you have Ah, cornerback on the other side.
Who? You don't have to be a shutdown corner.
You don't have to be trade times too.
But if you are a decent cover corner, they won't throw to your side either.
And they're gonna be forced to try to run, or they're gonna be forced to try and throw to the tight ends.
And then when you have Matt Milano in there, that's not gonna work either.
So the thing is, we honestly, it's alive.
It's a huge liability, in my opinion.
Have, um, Levi Wallace in the field.
But I like him, you know. He's a good dude.
I just need him to stop giving up. Somebody plays.
And I get because that was one of things that he mentioned.
Like the Bills plays, talking about my guy Aaron.
From this morning on my podcast, he was talking about the Bills.
Play a lot of zone, so we keep things in front of us.
So he's always the one making a tackle.
I understand that I understand zone, and when they're coming up or when they're playing prevent defense.
My problem is when he gets beat and he's behind the guy not, you know, not coming up to make the tackle.
You know, there's there's a point when you're playing zone defense and again Erin Quinn, and I'm gonna admit it is way smarter about football than I am Greg Thompson Way smarter about football than I am.
But there's a point when you're playing zone defense, where you where you start to cover the zone that they're exploiting.
And it was between the hash marks in the middle of field and as a Bills fan.
If and if you remember Ryan Fitzpatrick as the quarterback of the Buffalo Bills, he loved it When he was a Buffalo Bill.
He threw that tight and seen pass like it was nobody's business.
He loved to throw the ball between between the hash marks every week.
I knew I set it on my preview show.
That's where the ball is going.
The ball's going between the hash marks, and it was Mawr upsetting when, like the running backs, when got Gaskin bright, Gaskin was ripping off 10 yard chunks straight up the middle.
Between the hash marks we had, we had some issues up the middle of the football field on Sunday big time.
That was probably for me the most.
Yeah, I opening things.
So Brian Bowers.
What's up, bro? We need to realize that eyes that leaving Wallace is just not good to your point.
To that point, the Buffalo Bills have worked on finding a replacement for Levi Wallace.
They got Josh Norman, right? Uh, they've had guys coming in and out and shuffling in and out.
There's been no preseason, so they've done everything they can to basically, like, find a replacement or at least somebody to put in front of Levi Wallace.
And it just works out that Levi is getting the reps because everybody's hurt.
What's up, boss? Man? The King pin.
He said the game The game plan was simple.
When bills ran man coverage, they attacked Levi every time leave I got exposed and that z just what it is.
And now I'm seeing a bunch of comments and hear about Josh Norman.
So this is kind of the transition I wanted to make going with this Levi conversation.
So I know when we first signed Josh Norman, there was some negativity within bills.
Mafia still like Oh, he was, You know, I get it.
He didn't play well the last couple of years in the system that he was in in Washington.
E I don't need him to return to the form that he was in in Carolina.
Like I don't need him to be that guy.
What I need from him to be is better than Levi Wallace.
And I think that he is.
McDermott was asked two questions about, uh, Norman back to back today.
Um, in the first one, he shrugged off and just said, I'm only gonna worry about the guys that I got and I don't have Josh Norman right now, So I worry about Josh number.
I want to get him.
And then the next question I believe was job.
Scaglia basically just pressed in and said, Hey, we're just kind of more wondering how is he coming along? And McDermott said, He's coming along, OK, we'll see.
The next couple weeks will be very telling, but he's coming along pretty well.
But yes, to your point, I don't need Josh Norman to be the next coming of Troy Davis White.
I just need him to be better than Levi Wallace.
Which I was surprised that they didn't throw Cam Lewis in there.
Like I was surprised by, you know, number like like target number 10 A.
Some point, they're like, Okay.
Lets you know as much as you're the guy that likes to bench the dude that fumbles once or twice every game.
Like you fumbled.
You're on the bench, like, at some point time, Like a target.
A target nine target 10 on the same spot.
You think at some point they're like, Okay, I'm pulling you out and I'm gonna put somebody else in there.
What's up? Mobile bills. Thanks for the chat.
Yeah, Thanks, man. Thanks for everybody.
Thanks for participating tonight.
You guys air on it.
I could tell you guys air excited about this season.
You're excited about the team? This is cool, but, uh, 177 people in the chat on YouTube I don't know how many are in Facebook.
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So and to think.
I used to say we had to Cornerback used Thio.
The season is two weeks old.
Who was that? Uh, there's so many comments.
Is jumping whoever that was? Come back and tell me, Do you mean Levi Wallace was CB One? Are you talking about Norman? Yeah. Mobile bills.
Are you talking about what you're talking about? What you can't be talking about Wallace So talking.
I guess you're talking about Norman.
So just yesterday Oh, Norman.
So and we just haven't seen one play yet, So go back to the other one that you're looking at.
And now I probably can't.
It's okay, whoever that was and I just had up. I'm sorry.
Can you, like, repost it so I can bring it back up again? I'm sorry.
I know I found you, Anthony.
What's up, people? He's the defense is going to come out on fire, and the offense is going to soar.
We're going to beat L A 45 to 3.
Yeah, that's a That's a huge prediction.
That's a huge prediction.
That's how take.
They have weapons and they've got guys all over the field in that office looks good, and it looks really good right now.
It's firing on all cylinders.
It'll be and they they they've done some things where they get to the line, hurry up stuff.
And they've beaten their opponents as far as just like on that quick stamp, which the Bills have tried to do several times s so far in the last two games and haven't been successful necessarily where they've kind of rushed to the line and kind of like went into a quick hurry up.
Andi haven't necessarily been a successful.
The Rams, 45 to 3, is an aggressive score.
If they do that, the Wheels have legit come off for the Rams and the Bills.
You might as well crown him at that point.
If that scores 45 3, the wheels have come off completely for the Rams and your and your crowning the Bills.
At that point in time, I like the optimism, e like the optimism.
So that's good. That's sweet.
Well, my man or I'm sorry for even saying, my man, I don't know if this is my man or my home girl, but were code red.
No one says, I mean, it would be nice for us to get everything firing at the same time.
This morning on my podcast.
One of the things that I mentioned was that I don't remember the last time that I've seen the team have, like a top 10 or top five in both, like offense and defense.
Could you imagine if our defense literally just repeated their performance from last year? And then our offense looks like they looked in the first two weeks.
Generally, that football team is called the New England Patriots.
When that happens, right? I mean, it is generally who it is.
So they got Tom Brady throwing the football and then they've got that defense, that bill just somehow, no matter who the like, he you he could sign you and me.
I got a bum left knee and, like, we're gonna end up playing lights out football, and that's gonna be number one defense with you and me and the roster.
Still like I don't know how he does it.
So there's e Don't know.
They're still cheating going on up there in New England or what? But what's up? David Smith.
Welcome into the show.
Their offense may look good, but our defense it looks goo.
I know what you're saying there, brother.
Uh, well, it looks well know, Edmund.
I was gonna say Yeah, because Sunday it didn't look good. So let's Sunday.
We need a Josh to win.
We got 206 people 170 people up in this thing, and you guys are super active.
Probably more accurate active than you were last week when it was, like, 350 people.
So keep it coming.
Keep it rolling.
I wanna make the official transition on normally when we make the transition to, uh, to to the next week.
Don't do that to me.
You put it back.
I didn't I didn't see that.
You put it on like what happened? Yeah, way start.
We start with just the industry injury report from Wednesday and keep in mind the injury report from Wednesday is not that big of a deal.
Um, there's some stuff here that you want to talk about.
There's some stuff that you know might make you a little concerned, but by and large, it's it's more of.
I mean, there's a lot of rest days in here and things like that.
Like you can see, uh, that Jerry, who's got a rest day? Uh, Cole Beasley, that was That was a little bit of a surprise.
Hip and thumb didn't participate.
Obviously know about Edmonds.
Hey, did participate.
He was just in a non contact jersey.
We know the story is with him.
Jerry Hughes rest.
We just talked about it.
The groin. There, I think, was a surprise.
I don't remember him going out.
We're not going to know about until he comes out of concussion protocol.
There is no like updates on Dawson until he comes out of concussion protocol.
Milano was a full go what says limited, but my understanding is he was a full go in practice today.
Did not have a non contact jersey on Zach Mosque.
That's a surprise.
Did not participate at Oliver was a surprise Obviously, that's when he reached out and tried to trip the running back running by him, which you should not do.
Ed, that's a penalty, and I'm just glad you did not get caught.
Del. Shawn Phillips.
It was funny to me how many people were freaking out about del Shawn Phillips, something that nobody had heard of.
Not being able to play in this football game or getting hurt.
Rather, Andre Davis White shoulder limited.
That was a surprise, however.
It's nothing necessarily at this point to really be worried about yet.
Wait till Friday.
The guys that aren't practicing on Friday probably aren't playing on Sunday or if they're limit on Friday, they're probably not playing on Sunday.
So yeah, What's up, Richard Rush? My man, Richard says, If we beat the rims, it'll be because they came to the East Coast.
I don't like that way of thinking.
I think if we this is a huge point.
So Richard Russia's on here.
So just from just this is a huge point, just on a generalization when you think when you when you look statistically, this is so funny, too.
Statistically speaking, when West Coast teams travel all the way to the East Coast.
I don't remember what the win loss record is, but it's like overwhelmingly losses, except for when they used to play the Bills.
For whatever reason, West Coast teams And we know why.
Because the Bills were awful when West Coast teams would come to Buffalo.
When, uh, Cameron, last time they're here, teams would come to Buffalo.
They beat him. But by and large, teams lose.
When they go from the West Coast to the East Coast, play one o'clock games. Here's the thing.
The Rams did it this past weekend, so they went to the East Coast and they won.
Doing that two times in a row, I think, is a is a huge opportunity for the Bills.
It's a huge leg up for us because they have to do it twice, and they're both one o'clock games like it's literally Are you another rhythm? Are you sure they went back to L.
They're not legally allowed to stay on the East Coast because of Koven.
Okay, you go here.
Eight 1000 miles traveled.
Okay. A week and a half.
Now, here's the thing, though.
I'm going to agree to disagree, because I think I think first, like Pierre just said there.
He's five and O in his career as a coach on the East Coast.
But secondly, until this weekend, Yeah, until this weekend, cause we're gonna win.
But secondly, that the point that I'm making is like, three.
I think when you make that when you give that excuse, I think it's one of those things where it takes away from the talent or what the Bills do.
I think the bills are a better team, and I think that we're going to beat them because we're a better team.
It has nothing to do with their travel.
It has nothing like every team in NFL history, and I get that this is not the ideal situation to travel to the East Coast twice week after, You know, I understand that, but they're traveling the second time playing 4 15.
It would be different for me.
I'd be like, Oh, this is just a toss up, but playing at one o'clock twice to you're talking dead legs E.
And I mean it's a good point.
I'm just saying I don't want to take away from what my guys are.
Our guys are a good team, and they're gonna beat the brakes off of whoever comes into Buffalo or wherever they go.
And I don't wanna you know, I don't wanna be.
Probably could Google it and find the historic historical data on West Coast traveling the East Coast, playing one o'clock games.
So what's up? James Songs.
Welcome to the Chat. $5.
If Moss doesn't play, Singletary will eat.
I expect Moss to play.
They were asking Singletary today in his press conference.
You know about rhythm and only touching the ball a couple times.
And he gave the standard line like I'm just here to do my job.
And when they give you the football, it's my job to take advantage and execute, so we'll see.
I mean, it kind of depends.
We don't really have the horses to run up the middle a so far as that goes into Aaron Donald.
And you know, as Bruce Nolan said, we don't really have the speed either in Moss or Singletary to run out the outside eso you know, it's gonna be interesting to see kind of how the bills choose to use both those guys.
What's up here? The king pin says he's watched both Rams games, and he strongly feels that the game plan will be run heavy.
Repeat of the Washington game plan from last year.
30 or 65 35 run Rams run defense has been getting gashed so far.
And this is the thing.
Even with Donald being in the middle of that line there, Rush defense has not looked like it.
Like you would think that it would look having a superstar on their defensive line like that.
So I really think I don't think.
But I didn't think last week that Josh was gonna throw for what he threw for.
I know the injury helped.
You know him, you know.
But I think this week I honestly, I think it's gonna be a run heavy attack.
I think both running backs will probably get 15 touches.
Yeah, it's Ah, good morning football today.
They were saying that Aaron Donald might very well be the best football player of all time.
When his career is said and done, he might be considered the best football player of all time. I have a hard time putting.
I think they shouldn't smoke before they go on air.
I have a hard time putting him above.
Bruce Smith Have our time put him above lt.
Lawrence Taylor is like.
And if anybody in this chat is too young to remember or to know who Lawrence Taylor was pleased.
When we get done with this, go on YouTube and look up.
Lawrence State don't even just don't even pick highlights.
Just pick a game that he's in.
His game is the highlight.
Every single week, his game was the highlight.
It's it's the same is true.
I used to tell people to go look at Bruce Smith stuff, too, Like when they were trying to like when the arguments were going on about how good Bruce Smith really was after going to the Redskins, you tell people Goto, go to YouTube.
Excuse me on Just like watch some of the highlights of and how fast his jump was his twitch.
When he would get off the ball, the ball will be snapped to be around the left tackle or around like whoever was that was covered him before, like they were even out of their stance.
It was crazy. Tim's duck.
What's up? Thanks to super chat.
So Tim said that the 40 Niners state this week and so they did stay on the East Coast as opposed to going back, But the Rams decided to go back.
So that's what you're not allowed to. I'll look it up.
I feel like it would be.
And I know you're saying like you feel like you're not allowed to.
I feel like, But I feel like for a covert protocols, you're actually exposing yourself more by traveling more.
Maybe, but also I agree.
Thanks for the Tim.
Thank you for the super chat.
But what else? He was coked out of his mind.
I'm not even gonna So, Smith, it doesn't matter.
You could be on coke if you're killing the line.
I don't care what you doing, Kelly.
So was everybody back then.
Everybody had in the late eighties and early nineties. That's what they did.
They played. They started cocaine and played football.
Dion was very good, in my opinion.
He was top three.
Top five, top three, I would say Top three cornerback of all time because he doesn't tackle.
I'm not on the popular side of it.
He just wasn't a great tackler, so I can't put him as the greatest of all time at the cornerback position.
He was definitely in that.
Like he's top. He's definitely top.
That's a good discussion I have.
I might have that on my next week's podcast.
Like actually talk about in history, who should be considered the best cornerback and, like just, I'll probably do it like a breakdown of different positions.
I'm reading that certain teams have gotten not exemptions, but they've gotten permission to stay over S.
I think it comes back to what you said that the Rams chose to fly home.
NFL urges teams the altar travel schedules for less time away.
So yeah, so I think that's Ah, yeah, I don't know.
So who knows? I could be wrong happens all the time, and, yes, so he said.
Carmen said that's why the 40 Niners state of West Virginia to avoid the covert restrictions.
Eso yeah, but like I said, either way, even if like regardless of whatever happens with the travel on how teams fail and whatever.
I just I don't want to take away from from our team.
Like I said this year, I really believe we have a top five roster in the league.
I didn't I wasn't saying that as a joke before the season started.
I think that we're awesome team.
So I don't want to take away from that by saying, Oh, we're gonna beat them because they came to the East Coast twice.
Now I think we're gonna beat because we're better.
We're just better.
I'm on board with that.
We'll see on Sunday.
So we got 100 98 people up on YouTube.
We've got 92 like so first thing I need you guys to do so if you are on YouTube right now and you can hear my voice jump on that like button hump that, like get that number up, get our metrics up Best quarterback of all time, leave E.
I'll just throw it up because I knew I just knew it would get you stop me mid sentence.
I'm gonna put an ice cube amount in my mouth and annoy everybody a man, Damon Smith says, But are we gonna forget about Sean Taylor? I don't I don't put Sean Taylor in that top of all time discussion.
I don't think that his career was long enough for us to really see that.
We did see some craziness from him. He was a beast.
But unfortunately, his career and his life was cut short.
You're going Ed Reed, right? I mean, at that point in time, like for that position? Yeah.
I mean, you're gonna read, I think, for safety.
You know, obviously I would I would. Absolutely.
Lauren, You know, lt You know, uh, Bruce Smith.
I mean, Ed Reed.
Uh, Champ Bailey.
I mean, the guys here, I don't Yeah, Sean.
Sean Taylor's career got cut too short.
It's unfortunate that where we're off track, that's so funny.
What? Hey said because he disagrees with me about Dion.
I said that I wouldn't put Dion as the best of all time, but he says that he thinks that he is.
Hey said he did tackle earlier in his career more and I missed it.
You have to miss it because I said it right here on their Deion Sanders is the best cornerback of all time.
I feel like you wanna talk about going back to watch highlights Take your own advice.
No, I love beyond.
I put him to e didn't put him in a bad place.
And you are of all time this show every single week.
You guys kill me like y'all think, because I don't put somebody Number one.
It means that I disliked him.
I didn't say I didn't like him, but he's prime time.
Dion Sanders The best. The best quote.
Dion Sanders never ran a 40.
Nobody knows how fast he was and his his response when they asked him, How fast are you? He said fast enough.
Or as fast as I need to be.
And that is the truth.
There were times Anthony Miller.
Do you remember Anthony Miller? I know you're younger than me, and you know, it's it's interesting when you think of ages and stuff.
So Deane I think he was playing with the Cowboys.
You either play with the Cowboys, who was playing the Niners.
One of those two teams, Anthony Miller was playing for the Chargers.
They're playing the Chargers.
Maybe was the Rams.
Regardless, Anthony Miller catches the ball and he's streaking down the sideline.
And at that time in the NFL, Anthony Miller was one of the fastest guys in the NFL.
Freaking Dion came out of nowhere and chased him down like he was standing still and tackled the dude like it was unbelievable.
You're talking about a guy that, regardless, like the Cowboys, went after Dion because they couldn't beat him as a Niner.
And then once they got Dion, the Niners could no longer beat the Cowboys because Dion was a cowboy like without a doubt.
Hands down the best not only cornerback but also punt returner off In NFL history, nobody's even close.
Z is the greatest shutdown corner in the no.
I'm talking about the returner comment that you just made.
The guy that has the record that was in Chicago that literally broke every single record from you're talking about is not better.
The rules changed by the time that he got.
Who was it? Somebody put in the chat. I know exactly.
I could see his number two and I cant. Devin Hester.
Devin Hester is the guy.
The rule The coverage rules had completely changed from the time that Dion was was returning punts from from the time that Devin Hester was completely changed.
Dean is not the best return guy like I I can argue with you like Aiken is debatable.
When we talk about the cornerback position, he's not the best return he was. He was elite.
But he's not that you can't come on.
You know why you no idea was better than Revis because Revis fell off a cliff way too early.
Dion was good until he's quit playing well.
I don't put I don't put Revis in that conversation because he had certain people that really just ate him.
Like, you know, like Stevie was for his career.
We actually had a receiver that could just outplayed the best cornerback in the league at the time.
Made him look silly.
Yeah, so? So I don't I don't put Revis in there.
He was very good granted, same thing like like you were just saying about Dion when he left New England and went down to Tampa Bay.
They were awesome on defense that he went back to the Jets, and so, you know, he absolutely made a difference.
He shut down on entire side of the field.
Um, but again, t to the rest of your comment here.
Don't forget Charles Woodson.
Uh, listen, there's some There's some good defensive backs in that time, man.
Just our But like I said, Right, Um e get why everybody is just saying No, he's the greatest.
He you don't want to throw his way and get it intercepted.
But when guys had the ball, I just don't trust him as back then. He just wasn't a tackler.
Man, I just You can't be the best if you don't tackle.
He didn't talk a lot.
He didn't have to tackle much.
We'll just leave it that.
So I mean, generally speaking.
Hey, missed a ton of them while you're doing it.
I'm gonna look that up, eh? So we're talking about the rams.
Let's get back on topic, because we've got a little bit more time with you guys, and I love to know what you guys were thinking.
Um, and to this point, you know, I think I think the Jets game we were all pretty much on point, and I think the Dolphins game surprised a lot of us outside of what happened over the middle of football field.
Um, what matchups? We'll have your guys is most attention.
And I'm gonna click over the comments while you're doing that.
What matchup? Uh, in the Rams, Uh, bills game this weekend has most of your attention. Eyes.
What? I'm one. And I think we got another super check.
Is this right? Uh, Tim's took through.
Appreciate the chat.
This week will tell a lot.
Rams run defense has been suspect, by the way.
Recipe, rest in peace. Gale Sayers.
True, gentlemen. That is.
Yeah, we lost a good one. Absolutely.
In a huge piece of NFL history in Gale Sayers.
I mean, there's ah, speaking of guys to go back and watch, um, if you had the opportunity even after this to jump on YouTube and see some old highlights of a dude that was amazing football player and not only was seen amazing football player, he was an amazing man.
Um e don't know why my throat's drive drive me crazy.
I want I just want a cough like crazy.
So, uh, this is a good one.
Do you? Eso won one.
John Banks says Robert Robert Woods versus Trade.
Do you think Tracy taking Woods or anything? He's sticking to a side.
Um, I think you're gonna keep him on the side.
I don't think that they are afraid of the receivers out there, So I don't think that there is any need to have him kind of follow Woods around or anything like that.
This is a good point.
McDermott versus McDade.
That's a McVeigh.
That's a really good match up.
That's where the matchup is, in my opinion, for sure.
I like this one, too.
This is gonna be This is gonna be a test.
You know what was surprising to me? Eyes.
The Bills took on the practice of rolling their defensive line with their guards on Sunday in Miami.
They were rolling by Siri's the offensive guards, which was great.
So forward played right Tech right guard, played left guard as they were spelling Spain, and they were bringing in winters at the same time.
I have never seen that done before.
It was it was insane, in my opinion, Donald versus everybody.
That's good. That's super super good.
Donald versus Ford.
Yep, trade will stick.
Trade will agree trail.
Stick to his side.
Are you taking the chat back over. Okay.
I gotta I gotta really dig deep on the missed tackles.
Like they have tackle stats and all that stuff E yeah.
So I'll check that out and have that step from my next my next pod, because I'm definitely gonna talk about, um but yeah, the tray and Robert Woods.
Battle is gonna be fun.
But again, I don't think of it as much of a battle because I do think Trey is.
You know, I think he's top to cornerback in the league, period.
So I don't And I don't think Robert Woods is in the conversation as a top 10 15.
I don't I don't I wouldn't put him in the top 15 receiver.
So E said on my show Monday, and it got widely dismissed.
But Trey Trey White gave up his first touchdown since 2018.
Yeah, give up Sticky.
So he gave it up to He was He was alone on Kasicky and gave it up to him.
Sorry, apology, but it's OK.
He could have one in one in two years.
I'm all right with that.
wasn't as bad to your point is to find Gilmore's no Stefan eso So, Trey the thing.
But Trey was he was right in his pocket.
The guy just made a fantastic throat and then the other guy made a fans has to catch.
That's all that happened.
But betray wasn't like getting beat.
That first catch was in the first quarter when he or maybe it was a second quarter.
It was like a he called it.
I don't even know who caught it.
I'm trying to remember.
Was it was it Devante Parker that called it and he called it, like right there on the two yard line or something like that? How was that a catch? Did it not look incomplete? They change the rule.
They change the rule that you no longer have to hold the like.
You don't have to possess the ball on the ground. So they changed.
Okay, so I must have missed that because I'm like, how in the hell? Yeah, that was that any other year.
I mean, that's yeah, that's so that's the That's the not Dak Prescott does.
Does Bryant catch right? So does.
Didn't carry it through the through the fall of the ground on that in the game against the Packers so long ago, the one that they still talk about It was a catch, you know? Yes, it was a catch.
And it wasn't because of the ground, but they've changed that rule since then.
So so that is a matchup.
So what matchup you're looking most forward to.
Uh, I don't think you and I have answered yet.
So what matchups will have you most? Or have most of your attention to Sunday Josh Allen and the secondary of the Rams? It's going to for me.
It's going to be the the interior offensive line for the Bills and Donald.
And the scary part about that is I heard today that Donald has lined up in the last two games.
Donald has lined up in every position along the defensive line.
I mean, I guess I'm just not as afraid of like, I know he's gonna be disruptive.
That's who he is.
So it's like, is when you when you can accept who a player is and then game playing around him, and I think Sean McDermott for the most part.
And Brian dubow They're good at that.
Um, so I'm just not I just don't see it being where he's really gonna.
He's gonna get his place.
He's gonna have a couple tackles for a loss.
He's gonna hit somebody so hard that they might, you know, like he's going to do it.
But you know, so So that's gonna happen.
But the thing is, our coaching staff has to plan around that, and we have to be better.
So I just I believe in us now.
I'm not I'm not the guy that's going into the game thinking that they're gonna hurt my feelings and break my heart.
Now I'm saying, No, I could depend on my guys.
Um, I got to do better.
I gotta do better with these two questions because the first question is what matchups will have most of your attention.
So that means that, like, what am I watching in the game like who has been a little bit scared? It is not the same question, even though it sounds like it as what are the keys to securing a Bills victory.
For me, it's turnovers.
I think that turnover is gonna be big in this football game.
If the Bills come out there and they put the ball on the ground twice or Fallon throws a couple interceptions, we could be in a lot of trouble against that and vice versa.
I think if they put the ball on the ground or golf throws a couple interceptions, they're gonna put themselves in a bad situation with our offense.
I think turnover, the turnover district, different differential for me in this game is probably the most important key, if you will.
What's your thought? I agree.
I agree that that's not my key to victory, but I agree That is definitely something.
Toe watch, I think, are key to victory is the matchup you wanted to see.
So I think the coaching staff against Donald, that's the you know.
To me, that's the matchup, the key to victory.
If the coaching staff is able to really game plan and really successfully like the team has to perform.
So if we if we do the things that they say, I just you know, I think that's the matchup, 100% Yeah, what do you guys think we'd love to know what you guys think.
What is it? What? The keys to securing the Bills victory.
So this is one of those things that, like it's not necessarily a matchup.
Hey, we have to contain Cooper Cup.
It's more about, you know, our defensive backs against their wide receivers.
Or like I said, uh, you know, we're talking about turnover differentials or things of that nature or, you know, making sure their ground game doesn't get started or our ground game getting our ground game going, things like that.
TV on price with your brother.
But make no mistake about it, the Rams are just as worried about us.
I would agree 100%.
I think there's an aspect for E think everybody in the NFL is in the same position that we're at right now, probably including the Buffalo Bill, which is We all saw a different Josh Allen on Sunday that we've never seen before and the Rams.
But holes were probably puckered a little bit more because they're the next ones that have to face him because he looked way more comfortable and poised and in control of of that offense and he has ever looked before.
He looks like, Well, you heard it on the show this morning on my podcast.
I like I opened the show off with the M V p chants because we just haven't seen it, man.
And it's like I get it.
It's a little pretty much sort of really have that conversation, you know? But listen, you gotta let Bills fans live this up.
We haven't had anything close to this in a long time.
Man, you won't like this.
And I was gonna say earlier in the show, and I'm not looking to catch flag.
And I'm not saying that they're the same player, but don't get me wrong.
The best arm talent that this team has had arm talent.
I'm not talking about running ability.
I'm not talking about, like, movement in the pocket.
I'm not talking about I'm talking arm talent.
The closest person this built this team has had, in my opinion for arm talent since Jim Kelly to Josh Allen is probably Kyle Orton.
Kyle Orton was a talented thrower of the football.
Like anticipation throws outside the boundary throws like he had.
He had everything and he wasn't afraid to put the ball in there.
He had great touch.
He had great feel.
Now the rest of his game kept him from being a true valid starter in the NFL.
But from an arm talent standpoint, it's for me.
It's Kelly, then Orton like that brief stint.
And then, obviously, Josh has just got the arm talent that kid has is other world, in my opinion, so you don't have to respond.
This is how I feel.
Okay, man? John Banks said Drew Bledsoe.
I think he definitely had a better armed than Cow Orden.
I would definitely.
I'm not talking about chucking the ball down the field.
NOAA Better arm.
I think he had a better arm.
Not not just strength.
I'm saying like I think he threw a better ball period.
Then you don't remember blood those last couple of years when he basically would cement shoes and stare down Eric Molds.
And then, you know, everybody at the end of their career falls off.
You know you have had a cliff.
Peyton Manning did it.
There was never a time as a Bills fan.
There was never a time that Drew Bledsoe scared me as a Bills fan.
Even when he was a patriot.
He never scared me is a Bills fan.
I never patriots game going, man. We gotta play Drew.
At that time, we were killing the like.
At that time, the Patriots weren't the Patriots, you know, like the blood.
So Bledsoe was part of that reason, Like I like I used to be scared to death of Dan Marino.
Dan Marino and Elway used to scare the crap out of me because of their arm talent.
Let's so just to me never amounted to.
And I was excited when he came here Blood.
So just never amounted to me.
Just a guy that had tremendous arm talent, you know, a great arm talent.
You read the chapter E.
I am Because I'm like he did not just say he did not just definitely not Rob, John.
Uh, practical kid TV says John Brown and Coal is going to get a lot of catches.
Since Digs is going to get double a lot.
I I think they're gonna get a lot of catches.
I don't think digs will be doubled.
I don't think any team this year, at least if they're smart.
You have NFL coaches.
I don't think that anybody will be doubled too often on our team if they I'm sorry.
Oh, because if we if if they double digs, um, to your point, whoever just made that comment to your point um, Cole Beasley and John Brown and the running backs, they're gonna have openings that they wouldn't necessarily have.
Same thing could be said about putting a spy on Josh Allen.
No, teams don't want Josh Allen to run on them, but if you're going to use a person, Thio sit there and watch.
He's gonna he's gonna tear you apart now if he if he Ellen did get spied this weekend, it was part of the reason of the white person.
That's why he killed it.
That's why that's why they're so wide open.
Kobe is finding Mawr open ground than he's ever found before in his life.
Like he was definitely a benefactor this past weekend.
It has been so far this year.
It will be interesting to see how defense it's a pick your poison.
We've been saying it.
We've been saying it all like since we started talking about the football games.
It's the legit defense.
Is there gonna have to pick their poison? They're gonna have to decide who they want to beat them.
And the hard part about that is this.
Whoever they choose toe let beat them has the ability to beat them on this world.
Man, Richard says Dan Marino was a bad dude.
Can't tell you how much I hated that do back in the day.
I think everybody is which, if you're a Bills fan, everybody hated that.
But Jim Kelly had his number.
I think nothing hurt my heart more as a kid.
Then when I found out that Jim Kelly and Dan Marino we're like best friends, I was like, What? Yeah, it just ruins your entire way.
We hate Dan Marino.
You can't be friends with them.
No, thank you, Zack.
And thank you, Zack.
I appreciate you.
Yeah, I didn't even go into that with him because it just is.
It's a debate with Joe about Kyle Orton.
I'm not I'm not.
You're talking about a guy that played a football team, a bunch of horrible football teams the Denver Broncos.
I mean, he played on the Buffalo Bills.
I mean, yeah, he had some great passes, the semi Watkins.
But he never He elevated the play of that Denver Broncos team, if you remember, because whatever they put anybody else in with him, he took the plate camera.
We took, uh, was cowards.
Trash, man, I'm sorry.
He's trashed. Here we go. My man.
John Banks. Taquito would it will be the same.
Did that bug you, Joe? Here we go.
Here, we owe John Banks says the Keto winner will be the same this game as all season long stopped coming out, flattening the recorder.
If there's a game, let you go first.
If there's a game that's gonna bite us in the third quarter, it's this one.
If you go flat in the third quarter in this game, they're gonna have 21 points on you.
But here's the thing.
I don't think this Sunday I can only speak for this.
I'm not talking about Week one this Sunday.
I don't I don't think that they didn't come out aggressive.
I think that Miami made some adjustments, but they were still making the same play calls, the execution changed.
So what I'm saying is we give Dave all a lot of flak about the third quarter and we should.
But this past Sunday, if it's gonna be a sign towards the rest of the season, he actually came out and called a very good third quarter.
But our players didn't.
They didn't They just didn't show up for him in the third quarter. Now fourth quarter.
Josh, you know it is Josh time.
So but But no, the third quarter.
I can't put that on day ball at all.
He called a very good third quarter, saying the same thing happened in the Jets game, so he called a good third quarter the Jets game, too.
I mean, obviously, the game plan in the adjustments they made changed a little bit.
But the reality is, is at some point in time, you have to put those lack of adjustments and lack of execution on the offensive coordinator.
In my opinion, I mean at some point in time, but somebody's got to take blame for it outside of the players, like it can't be the you know, it is what it is.
So you got a lot of working fans in here, so you know, I'll give you a slap in me.
You make it sound like like calling for cholera to be a Hall of Fame player.
I'm just talking about his game was severely lacking in nine other places, but, you know, But you his arm talent was great.
Well, and that's the part that I'm saying I disagree with, like I'm not talking about him and as an entire quarterback, I don't think he had great arm talent.
I think that when he just walked out of the Bills locker room and never came back, that was so happy.
He did use this and go get an autograph orange because that's all that's worth five.
Actually, the jersey probably is worth more without the autograph on it.
Man, that's not true.
Like Tyrod Taylor jerseys or five bucks in Buffalo like you name it.
They're all five bucks in Buffalo right now.
You probably you probably have to get paid to take a Peterman jersey, but yeah, Anyways, we can move on from work, So way heard those feelings, guys.
First time you heard Kyle Orton's name it was because he came in to spell somebody in Denver.
I don't remember who exactly who it was.
And the dude was like the 45 point machine.
There's like six games in a row.
He scored 45 points.
Fantasy points as a quarterback like dude could play football.
Like, you know, here's well, here's a hot take and then we really can't move on from, You know, I don't wanna like, really just be on this.
But to be honest, I think the reason why um e j.
Didn't really perform well is because the coaching staff gave up on him.
They didn't believe him, and they didn't invest in him.
I honest to God, think if e J would have had that support and if he would've I'm not saying he would be with Josh is no.
I think Josh is a far better talent.
Like he's he just has intangibles that you know.
You all right, Ryan? Piece, man.
Thanks for thanks for kicking it with us, but I don't think e J would have been as horrible as his career played out to be.
If the team had really believed in him and invested it.
Could you imagine if he had McDermott as a coach? Oh, it's totally I mean, you're talking about the same Donald situation.
I mean, you're talking about data.
It was David Carr, really the train wreck that he was.
It was because he was drafted to an expansion and it was horrible.
I was at the Browns.
The Browns Bills game on Thursday Night Football in Cleveland when Hoyer got hurt.
When Kiko heard him well, he's Superman over him and Hoyer.
Just his knee went sideways.
E J Manual looked like a franchise quarterback on the football game up into the point where he got hurt like he looked like there was many games where E.
J looked like a franchise quarterback.
I don't know why it went sideways for E. J.
I think it's the coach.
What's that? It was the coach.
He's a horrible coach.
It's that, or sometimes certain players get figured out like the NFL, the defense's that coordinators find what a player can overcome or can't beat, and then the quarterback doesn't progress or doesn't take the next step.
I don't know what the answer is.
Um, well, the reason why I'm saying it was the coaches because every quarterback he's had other than Cow Orton has not performed well.
Like, I know he has, like a guy that z serviceable down there in Jacksonville now, but he's not like he's not like the guy, you know, Look at at any quarterback that he's coached and be like, you know, that guy is going to do it.
So, Jeff, thanks for the comment.
Thoughts on charges.
Have you heard the story yet? I have.
I have actually got a few text messages about this.
When? The day while I was working.
I think that Tyrod Taylor is lovable is he is, um and, you know, is is the awesome man that he is over and over again and the humble, fierce competitors that he is.
I've never seen a guy just have bad luck the way that he has bad luck.
Um, with stuff like this.
So he always gets hurt at the wrong time.
The wrong reason? The good news that I've heard coming out of L.
Right now, as far as the Chargers go is he is at the stadium, and he is, or whatever the practice facility, and he's working with the new kid, a bear.
How are you? Pronounce his last name trying to trying to make him better, trying to get ready for this weekend.
So he's doing what he needs to do, which is good.
So So somebody is debating you, saying that he looked like a franchise quarterback. Amazing.
And situation is the fact that I said Kyle Orton had had elite arm talent, just his arm, and you disagree with me.
However, I said that E.
J looked like a franchise quarterback and you agree with me because you like E.
J. What you don't like Kyle.
So this is no, it has nothing to do with me liking cowl or not.
I don't dislike Cal.
I don't think he was a good quarterback.
There was a reason why he was available to come to the Bills last minute like that, Uncle Rico, You say that.
But Rich Gannon was available to, and he won a Super Bowl.
Same thing with Warner.
Kurt Warner was available.
He wanted to the team that that they had waken move on from order.
But E J looked like a franchise quarterback on what planning.
These guys aren't true Bills fans.
First of all, Joe and myself are very true.
Bills fans like Joe has been a season ticket over for over 20 years.
Even when he was in Ohio, I am through and through a Buffalo Bills fan.
The problem is, when you make a statement like this, it lets us know that you don't really watch as much bills games that you really think.
Because before E.
J got injured, there was a lot of hope in Buffalo because the combination of E.
Manual and Stevie Johnson looked very good and we were very excited about it.
J did look good, but the coaching staff did not believe in him.
So I'm sorry that we have to agree, disagree with you on that one.
I guess we're still talking about Orton.
I think that when Andrea, what's up? Thanks to Super Chat, Organ got benched for Rex on.
Then they went to the Super Bowl debate over.
E don't dislike Corden.
I really don't. I know you think I do.
I don't dislike Corden.
I just hated the way that they did.
Egypt being a quarterback is Mawr.
I mean, there's there's things that Orton did there.
I mean, there is not a quarterback since Jim Kelly that threw with anticipation.
Maybe Flutie the way that Kyle Orton did Kyle Orton through guys open and the best quarterback.
Well, I guess it's debatable to I want to go there because Watkins did have a couple good years for some good times with Tyrod.
But Watkins looked like a legit NFL receiver, I think, in my opinion, with or more so than even Tyra Tyra just through deep balls all the time, like they just had the deep ball down.
That connection was just money for them.
But that's different story for different day.
I'm not a trip, so I actually don't know.
Yeah, I'm not a Bills fan either.
I've never I've never watched the bill of game.
I've never seen one, not ever.
Oh, and apparently were triggered.
So you come on our show and tell us what our fans Thanks.
I'm not sure what I'm fine.
So yeah, I'm triggered about J Spence not agreeing with me about Orton.
So yeah, I could tell that that got you down.
How much? How much was it just craving a good quarterback? What with what? Probably Orton.
I would agree with that.
There was probably a great deal of like when you think of who we came off of.
So you know, you got a bunch of other girlfriends in there and then this one, you know, you know, it looks a little bit better.
And so in your mind, she's like, super hot, right? So there's probably I would probably say that that's probably true, like Orton was the first competent quarterback we have had in a long time.
So, in my opinion, so that's fair to say, I guess I think if you're going to really look at any type of going back, because even even with E J like I haven't liked a quarterback like I like Josh now since Flutie.
Personally, I enjoyed Flutie on the team since then.
The carousel of quarterbacks that we went through, I was never like, extremely satisfied.
And even though you know, I pound the table for E.
J and I pound the table for the fact that Tyrod got us to the playoffs and you know like he was the quarterback to do it, But in reality, um, I haven't been like happy about a quarterback since my memories of the whole entire situation were literally Flutie versus Johnson and everybody arguing Flutie versus Johnson.
And I went I was downtown, a Coca Cola field when General was in town.
After we cut Flutie loose and, like Johnson came out on, the came out on the stage and they, like, handed up about the midget being gone and blah, blah, blah.
And at the end of the day, we were I mean, Flutie was probably was clearly the better quarterback, but, like neither one of them were necessarily true NFL serviceable quarterbacks.
And you've got low spin vs Holcomb and Edwards.
And like those gigantic fights, all my memory is is just years and years and years of just quarterback controversies and who is better and everybody in bills Mafia fighting over which guy they liked better and why, and blah, blah, blah.
And at the end of the day, all of them suck, right? I mean, the reality is they were all garbage Like, including Orton.
Orton was not a great quarterback.
I just felt he had great arm talent, which is well I'm trying to get that, but that's okay.
Welcome into the Humpty Hotline where we talk about Kyle Orton all day long.
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Very, very good show today.
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Thank you guys for joining us tonight.
We're now rolling into We're gonna we're gonna put Orton to bed.
Eso we're talking about Bill's versus rams this football game and you're going through the chest, which is good.
So actually, I was I was on Google really quickly because I saw a comment here and I want to verify that it wasn't true before I put it up.
And it's not true, so I'm not gonna put it up.
This is a sticky point.
And I want this from the fans.
So I want this from those of you that are in the chat right now.
Like, literally speak up.
Josh Allen. Stat line prediction.
Because we all had a stat line prediction last week and we were all way off like none of us predicted.
400 yards. I don't think.
I'm sure somebody did the whole 45 to 3.
Like somebody threw one out there, but there was no realistic prediction of 400 yards.
Four touchdowns. No wonder.
It's like a near perfect passer rating.
So I would love to see what people have got for Josh Allen.
So So throw some stuff in there, Chris.
Yankee just want to say I really enjoy listening to you.
Oh, thank you, Chris.
Appreciate that, brother.
You appreciate that.
So, what do you think? What do you got for Josh Allen? Stat line prediction this weekend.
Well, Week one I was.
I was pretty close.
Week one week, two.
They Josh just He almost doubled my prediction.
So number 3 12 week one, did you? I said 3.
40. You hit, You hit 3 12 I think.
Well, I said 3 15 and he was 3 12 and I said to So, like, I was I was really close.
But, you know, this week I'm gonna go with, um because I do agree with here from earlier when he said that he thinks it's gonna be a run heavy offense.
But I still think Josh will be successful when he does throw.
So I'm gonna give him 2 75 two touchdowns passing and he's not going to score on the ground this week.
Let's do this before I give you mine.
There's two super chats in the Q right now, so jump chat.
So that's the second one.
There's one before that.
John Banks Super Chat.
Thank you so much for the Super Chat.
Two touchdowns, 11 carries for 63 yards and one touchdown.
That's that line. I'm agreeing with zero turnovers.
I think he's I mean, if he fumbles, get behind that set line.
So, James Socks.
Thank you so much for the super chat.
Have you guys tried? Josh? Josh is Jack.
So they asked him about this, uh, in his interview today.
My daughter has a box.
So one of one of our family friends gave me.
So for those of you that don't know, my 13 year old daughter is obsessed with Josh Allen.
And one of the other reasons that she's obsessed with Josh Allen is because I am 10 years older than her mother.
So, like, she has this whole idea in her head that she is 13.
So Dad married mom 10 years, 10 years younger.
So there's no reason that Josh can't marry McKenna.
My daughter McKenna, 10 years.
She got fat head in her bedroom.
She's got Josh Allen jerseys like she is totally obsessed with Josh Allen.
So she has ah, box of Josh's Jack's.
We have not tried them yet.
I don't know if we're gonna open the box or not.
So thank you guys for you clearly haven't down there, right? You haven't even sniffed it.
If I'm well, No.
I have two boxes waiting on me when I get back to Buffalo.
Your mom and dad? Yeah.
Yeah, Very good.
Stat line prediction.
I think I like the one that you put up on that super chat.
Who is the super chat from? You haven't see, We go back to it, John Banks.
So what? I'm gonna dio Wang. I'm gonna do the math.
You know what that is That that What's that percentage? That completion percentage 26 from 1919 divided by 26 e do math.
That might be the only place that I'm not necessarily 100% on.
Um, to me, that stat line might look more like, you know, 19 for 30 19 for 33 for 2.
88 2 touchdowns.
Um, but I'm probably John.
I'm probably with you.
That's probably where I'm at.
What's up? What are other people saying? His first outlined more stat lines on there? Yeah, we gotta actually got a bunch.
What's up, Elliott? Welcome in.
I caught Elliott on the the map.
Marino show a little bit a little while ago.
28 2 touchdowns, 28 20 rushing yards and one. You don't think, Josh.
Nobody thinks Josh Helen throws an interception this week.
No, Josh Allen hasn't thrown an interception in eight games.
I know that it's coming.
I mean, it's coming, but I don't think that is going to be something that we're gonna see a ton like.
I don't think he's just gonna bills Mafia.
Twitter is gonna lose their minds if it's a bad pass like Ifit's rolling out to his left in a bad launch, he almost had one Sunday that digs throw like and I mean digs again.
It's wonderful having a number one receiver he like, Yeah, yeah, he, like, took it out of his hand.
Well, the ball bounced off the guys hands and he, you know, But it's like she's man text joints and we have had since Eric Molds that we've been missing since Eric Molds was here.
We don't we have not had the guy to go up and get the ball from somebody like it's amazing.
3 32 touchdowns.
Could you imagine? Josh, could you imagine America if Josh Allen throws for 300 yards three weeks in a row and against the third time against the Rams defense.
Like you wanna talk about a coming out party? Whoa! 500.
Keep it rolling, baby.
You go rolling Dante Culpepper up in this mug.
Remember Dante when Dante was hot with Randy Moss like he was just He was just trucking them numbers like crazy.
He just dropped back into the ball as far as he could.
Randy, Man, if I had Randy, I I could give you a 400 or 4000 yards season.
Randy was a beast, man.
You know I'm talking about then Dante.
Dude, that's funny, too.
Like what a mistake.
You wanna talk about Bills? Fans of true Bills fans, And I know that I'm not triggered, but getting back to it.
So where were you? On the fence on the side of Culpeper versus Breeze when they both came available? Because the bills were in need of a quarterback.
Culpepper, I want a cold pepper with all of my heart.
Culpepper goes to freaking the dolphins and washes out and becomes nothing.
And group is a first ballot Hall of Famer.
Yeah, back then, I want a cold pepper.
Well, because you're right, though, when you saw him with with, you know, the team he had out there in Minnesota is like, Oh, my God, we need him here.
You know, that's what it was.
But no Drew Brees. You're right.
First ballot Hall of Famer.
When he when it's his time, he's going right in.
They might put him in before the five year period.
Yeah, you're retired. Come on in.
We got your we got your coat for you already got your jacket.
So but yeah, I did love cold paper, but I was you know, I was a good fan of of a lot of different quarterbacks, and I used to always get checked off.
When when they actually did hit free agency and it it almost seemed like Buffalo didn't even try.
I get it. They probably didn't even want to come to Buffalo.
But it seems like buffalo just don't even try to go after top talent.
And it was It was so annoying, so annoying.
We're gonna move on to final score predictions here in a second.
This is super chat hanging out there for us.
Do you see it yet? There's a lack.
There is James Socks.
Thank you, James Socks.
That super chat.
Appreciate your brother passing 26 or 37 3 45 3 touchdowns, rushing, five rushes for 29 yards.
Are we seeing a different Do we? Are we going to see a Josh Allen that becomes a little more conservative in his Russia's meaning? It's He's got that weapon.
Very Steve Young esque, where he's got it in his back, like in his bag, and he can pull it out whenever he wants to.
But like I'm just, I'm enamored.
I'm just going to say it again.
I'm enamored with the Joshi on that we saw Sunday.
That was a different Josh and on than we've ever seen before.
I just don't know what to in a good way.
I don't know what to expect this weekend from Josh Allen like, I literally I'm like I don't know what we're gonna get aside from the stats.
So, like, of course, I liked 417 yards and four touchdowns and no interceptions.
But aside from the stats, I loved Sunday's Josh Allen more than I loved last Sunday's Josh Allen like two rushing attempts.
But the Jets are an ugly football team to play.
The Jets don't play pretty football.
They make everybody playing ugly football.
But I'm saying like I don't want Josh Allen running a times a game or 10.
I don't even know how many times he ran that game, But I don't want to see that two runs like and they were scrambled.
They weren't called runs.
I don't want Josh taking unnecessary hits, but I don't want Josh fumbling.
I don't want Josh playing hero ball while he's scrambling, trying toe.
Let's let's let's make that we have the weapons now let's just Josh put again.
It'll be too soon.
It would be too soon.
Like, and then there was a play that I saw, and I think they somebody even put it in our chat.
If I'm not mistaken, Um, there was even a play where it's like Josh.
He almost there was somebody who almost fell on him, like probably would have ended the season.
Oh, yeah, I threw that out there.
Uh, somebody spotlighted it and, like, literally, it was so that it was Spain was coming down this way and, like, literally, just before he got there.
Just, like, jump back and pulled his like I don't know how he did it.
Like, I don't want to see any more hits.
Like anything that is there.
You're talking Joe Theismann.
You're talking Alex Smith.
Broken leg, like his leg is going snap onto the ground.
If, like, Spain connects with his with his shin, they're like his leg is snapped in half.
And we're not seeing Josh down for two years, like literally two years crazy.
Crazy that he avoided that hit.
Uh, there's a You missed the super chat, by the way.
What? We were talking.
It rolled through. Zach Masum? Yeah. Bonus.
Zach Moss from John Banks.
Moscow's for 100 for the first time.
Dude, that would be something. Yeah.
They both get 100 yards rushing.
Well, we're owning good morning football on Monday morning.
If that happens, like I don't I don't think so.
I love you know, Josh can't throw for 335 yards and Zach and and motor, moss and motor both go for 100.
That's not well.
Yeah, Somebody else in the comments That dude, that would be like 600 plus years.
Yeah, Elliott said.
It e don't think it's happening.
Yeah, I'm in like, let's do that.
You know, I pound on the table for Zach Moss.
He's my guy, but I don't think I don't think this is the game for his style of play.
They have Donald Man like, it's just not gonna be that.
I don't want to say that necessarily.
It's a situation where Moss has leave that up there.
I don't know that Moss is, uh, gotten the same opportunities and guys transition different.
But he has not taken to the pro game as quickly a Singletary did When Singletary got the ball when he was a rookie last year, he just started lighting it up right away.
It seems like his progression time as far as getting his feet under him, and that's probably due to not having a preseason.
What is taking him a little bit longer? You think that's what it is because I feel like Secretary isn't playing at a high level as a running back.
I think they're asking secretary to do.
They're actually secretary to do different things and what they asked him do last year.
So they've got him staying in the bloc and doing some other stuff.
So Gary Herman, thank you so much.
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Dude, you think table will keep up their pass attack and pass attempts to twice as many carries, including Alan carries in first two games.
Dude, I'm on record of saying I was Nobody was more surprised than me at the Jets game when that game literally was past past past past, past Josh on run, past, past, past, past, past, past, Josh on, run, past, past, past like it was unbelievable.
I think maybe we're living in a world where they're going to do and they're gonna attack.
I want to say the weaknesses of the team that they're playing the problem is is like this weekend.
The weakness of the Dolphins defense was supposed to be to run, and they didn't do it.
We all expected.
Hey, you hated seeing Josh Allen run versus the Jets. Well, guess what.
He's about to run the ball 15 times and it didn't happen, so I don't know.
I'll be honest with you.
The key to football is keeping your opponent off balance.
Is anybody more off balance on us right now? Do you have any idea what they're gonna do this weekend? Because I don't No point.
And because there's legitimate reasons, toe have ideas that they're going to do some of anything.
So, for instance, you could come out and say, You know what? No, the bills.
They're hot right now with the passing attack, Josh is gonna come out and they're gonna attack.
They're gonna try toe, expose everybody outside of Ramsey on the passing attack.
You could say that and it would make sense because Josh has been playing lights out.
But then you could say, Well, no, they're gonna probably run the ball because, like, you can have, like, so many different, and they all would make sense.
And that's the beautiful part about it.
We have the roster that you can't come in any Sunday and say, Well, this is who the bills are.
You can't do it.
I'm gonna throw that comment from Joshua Barrett real quick.
Where to go? Just repair.
It Says was totally shocked.
We through so much against the dolphins.
Not only was I shocked.
I was shocked at the ease of which they did so.
But I'm not. There was an injury in the first quarter.
I don't think if if if if Howard doesn't, our generals doesn't go down.
I don't think that that's how the game looks, and I'm not taking nothing away from Josh.
Josh did that Sunday, like or but Jones isn't covering the whole field.
He's gonna try to take.
He's not covering the whole field, but Digs isn't catching.
Ah, 153 yards and a touchdown.
Wasn't the rookie on digs a lot? Was that a weird situation? And that was disrespectful.
They should have went to digs the way they did.
But if he's if Jones is on him, that's that game isn't happening.
Like, Yeah, we might.
We might absolutely still win, and we might still have good numbers on in the passing game.
But jobs just throw it for 4 17 unless it's to be easily in general.
Uh, just people saying they can't hear me again.
If you can't hear me, I'm having technical issues, so I apologize ahead of time.
So it's just just having trouble.
So you give your see.
Oh, yeah, This is a good point.
Crossing route was versus man coverage.
Josh Allen killed that.
Listen, Miami could not stop the cross route at all right now.
They run more crossers than I've ever seen.
So they're in a ton of crossers for sure, for sure.
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He says Jones couldn't cover ****.
He puts his grown trying to cover him on the first play.
I don't think he put his grown grain because he was trying toe cover digs.
I think the lack of the preseason in the way that these guys were playing these soft tissue injuries and these thes muscle pulls and all this stuff that that's the factor.
It's not necessarily because digs is.
I'm sure he's covered.
Digs at some point in his career at least once.
Like I'm not saying that he shut him down.
But you know, it's tough without a preseason, It really is.
He pulled his groin because he didn't manscaping.
Man scape that stuff up, man.
Let's get into some final score predictions, and I'm trying to talk a little bit louder.
My microphone, I apologize.
Everybody like I got into this thing.
And like, about 30 minutes before we came on live, I found out I had all kinds of issues with my equipment. So I apologize.
So final score something people here you find So Mawr play action.
They're gonna play action like crazy, like seven.
Like, almost the most in the NFL right now.
I think the only way we really can do more is if the running backs actually start to pick it up.
Like, actually carried the ball.
Yeah, like you have to run the ball in order for a play action toe work, because then you're gonna bring the linebackers and the safeties up thinking that you're gonna run.
That's that's what I heard.
A stat that they're running more than almost more either more than everybody else or almost the most of the NFL.
Like they're running the play action there.
Play action. The mug out of this thing.
Can I can I, um, take a quick pause just for one moment? Because, Eric, that's something.
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Final score predictions.
What do you got? Final score Prediction.
I'm going 31 to 17 Buffalo.
I think it's gonna be closer than that.
I think it's gonna be a nail biter.
Um, I'll be honest with you.
What, coming off of Sunday's game into Monday, Thinking about this game, I almost was, I was I was thinking about already what I was gonna predict on this show.
It was going to predict the bills to lose, and for some reason I'm just I've got the Bills. Hi. I'm on.
I'm on the hype train, like, literally all aboard the hype train.
I'm on the hype train.
Um, I do think it's gonna be close.
I don't think it's gonna be a shootout.
I think both defense is going to show up.
Um, I'm probably go 21 17 bills on top.
So 32 bills, 17 points for for the for the rams.
That's where I'm at.
Uh, Debian Price 30 to 2023 Buffalo Bills.
I like that score.
Bring it in like, let us hear anybody.
Anybody picking the bill still lose anybody? Haven't I Haven't seen one yet.
I haven't seen one yet.
My thing is, So here's the thing.
At the beginning of the season or early in the off season at we had the bill's going forward and old.
But that was of what the Rams did last year.
They they were awful.
Last year, they could put the same players, couldn't do anything, couldn't put it together.
I'm still I think I'm still going 31 17 man.
Yeah, I think I'm going 31 17 and I agree that that the defense will will pick up.
But I think our defense will pick up.
I don't think that their defense will be able Thio, stop us to stop everybody, you know? So for instance, if digs and Brown don't have a great game, that slot in those running backs were there, so I just don't think that that is gonna be a slow it would be.
You know what? I could go for a good game, though.
I just don't want thio like, give me a heart attack.
That's ah, like so this I don't want I don't want 20 to 17 and it comes down to, like, the last drive where Josh has to throw a touchdown forced to win.
I don't want that.
Well, you're gonna get it, because that's the bills.
Give us every freaking time they give us heart attack games.
Um, Josh Allen did say today in his presser that they're they're not gonna force anything.
They specifically asked him about digs and his relationship with digs, and he said, we're just gonna go out and take what the defense gives us on.
I was like, Oh, I'm all I'm all about that.
We haven't seen the bill steam do that in 20 years.
James Hogg's Thank you for the super chat, man.
Appreciate you appreciate 17 bills.
I think we're gonna We're gonna make a statement.
What's interesting is that statement game was supposed to be against the Dolphins, But as soon as we spank them like little kids, it was all of a sudden, the dolphins on a good football team. It's like, Wait a minute.
Like the goalposts immediately moved immediately moved.
It was like, What in the world? So I think it would be more of a statement against the Rams.
Um, and then we got the Raiders right after that, right? So it'll be interesting to see this next four game stretch is gonna be Yeah, it's gonna be interesting.
31 for 34 31 bills when Tyler bash drills a game winning field goal to prevent overtime from 40 yards out.
My guy, That's it.
That's this guy.
My God, That's it. That's it.
Yeah, I missed that one.
I said he was gonna miss a field goal in this game.
So in the Dolphins game, So I got that one around, so we got a couple more minutes.
Are there any questions? So do you guys have anything you want to The comments, questions? Get the last minute super chat in there.
Let us know what you're thinking.
If you wanna complain about the volume of my microphone and the technical challenges I'm having, you're allowed to.
I apologize for the A.
Soon as we get off this thing, I'm gonna play it back and see how bad my microphone is.
Like I'm incessant about technology and, like, production and things, working right Drives me crazy.
What was it about Gabriel Davis? They said maybe Gabriel goes for seven catches and 100 pleasure.
That would be amazing.
So what was the next one? Do you have it? Still trying to get back.
So they were just saying what a script that would be for bass if he won the game like that with a field goal. Yeah.
Oh, and we're one game closer to be buying a Korea bohorquez jersey.
So So for those of you who don't know, Joe and I have this thing because he has the same way.
I kind of talked about cow Orden.
He talked about He talks info, Corey, but organs and eso.
He said if he plays well and he puts he strings together a few games that are, like, really good, he's gonna have to get a didn't I didn't say top five.
If he ends of seasons like the top 500 league, I'll buy Korea Bohorquez Jersey.
You know, Rocket, I feel like you feel like you're gonna end up with a quarter bohorquez jersey, man.
You know, if I have to say, I want to buy us both one so and I know that's why I wear it, But I know we don't have a lot of time, so I don't really wanna your good.
What should I know? I won't.
We'll save it for the next time for it.
Well, one of the things that, like really trip me out about Sunday with Yeah, I'm gonna say that I'm gonna save it because I'm tired and I wanna That's why I keep looking at the clock.
I don't wanna do it.
30 out here is 10.
We're not gonna No, no, I'm not gonna be here for another 45 minutes.
Now listen, everybody.
So there's 212 people or 230 people in this thing.
He's leaving me hanging, too.
I have no idea what he's talking about right now.
So, like, yeah, you're just a big teeth J.
Spence, the manscaping tease.
That's what you are.
Sorry, man. I'm sorry.
It is late and I'm hungry. I haven't eaten.
I gotta eat. I'm sorry.
Very Herman. Thanks.
Thanks again for the Super Chat.
Did you see Jordan Palmer combine at the combine and his impact on Josh's long ball about dropping pins on a map? Do that some of the most compelling conversation or compelling interviews you're going to listen to.
If if any of you have not done it, go to YouTube, find, uh, the Jordan Palmer it takes, if you will, about Josh Allen and what he says about Josh.
Everything that Jordan Palmer is saying about Josh Allen is coming true.
Every single thing, everything creepy and weird because he doesn't only work with Josh, he works with Sam, he works, and that's what I was going to bring up he works with all those guys.
It's like he works for Sam.
But Sam is completely regressing.
Is it brand owner Kyle Island? He works with one of the E Brandon Allen Sand Arnold Josh and then is one of the guy that he works with all the time.
Yeah, it's weird.
It's weird, but obviously Bills have a better supporting cast.
So three somebody throw, he says.
Throw J spent some trail mix or a protein bar.
Okay, I'll say it, but I don't want to have a discussion about it because it's really a lashing at the fans.
Listen, all the fans that were in this chat that wanted the Bills to cut and leave Andre Roberts off this **** roster.
That's why I didn't want to do it.
That z I'm gonna put the microphone over to the side.
No, no, we're gonna go have a conversation.
But I do want to say you were all crazy Toe.
Ever think that the Buffalo Bills would not have a roster spot for Andre Roberts? Crazy.
He's super super duper good.
Oh, David Price.
I was not one of them.
People coming in and out for the Roberts long.
There was a whole bunch of them know David.
It was a ton of them.
And I'm like, Are you guys crazy? Yeah.
And what's funny is like, they've all they've all they've all changed.
Their changed their their their feelings on that situation.
Matt Milano is the most underrated bill.
Matt Milano is not an underrated football player in the NFL.
So, like let alone is a buffalo Bill.
If the bills aren't able to keep him and extend him there, he's gonna get paid.
He is going to get paid.
So he's gonna set the market for linebackers.
You already called it.
So the bills don't extend music to set the market for linebackers, which is crazy.
Anything else? No.
No, that was all. Elliot.
But he wouldn't.
There were teams who were interested in Roberts, and he Actually he said he wanted to keep his agreement with the Buffalo Bills in place because he thought the team was doing something special this year.
Yeah, they're all they're all on board.
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You know, you're good when you can talk.
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