Good morning, everyone.
And welcome to FBC Radio Live. It's Wednesday.
It is really September 23rd.
This time I checked the calendar.
I checked the sun.
I went all the way back.
I counted all the days since the dawn of time and made sure that today is September 23rd, 2000 and 20.
Um, if I'm wrong Well, apparently I don't know how to count, but we are here.
It is Wednesday. We're ready.
Thio, kick off the second half of the week or transition into the second half of the week as we get closer and closer to the start of week three.
Um, but we got a lot of nonsense to get to today, so we're going to jump right into it.
And I'm gonna welcome in my man Mike.
Debate Mike, How are you today, buddy? Uh, on ready to let the mayhem ensue, friend.
Definitely good stuff.
Looking forward to a great to be here on Wednesday morning, September 23rd.
We got the date September 23rd.
Yes, um, if you weren't listening yesterday or if you're just tuning in for the first time.
Well, thank you very much.
But yesterday I went through a whole spiel about September 23rd, not knowing that it was actually September 22nd.
The worst part about it was, too I actually wrote I got the date correct on the bottom bar of our broadcast.
Like I have to put that in every single time.
So I I did that correctly before the show started, but still somehow forgot it was the 22nd.
Um, not the 23rd.
But the reason it was, uh, brought up or the reason I thought of it was because it reminded me of this this moment in wrestling history, uh, that I I somehow associate it.
I remember the date because it had a It was a password of mind to some generic things.
So calm down, folks.
You're not gonna break into my bank account or anything like that.
I don't use the date anymore.
It was just a tool, uh, in which I remember the date all these years later.
So it brings us back to Unforgiven 2001.
Kurt angle over Stone cold.
Steve Austin, You remember this one, right, Mike? I do.
Especially after your yesterday.
Yeah, Well, you know.
Hey, it was a classic. It was a classic.
It isn Oh, I love that music To be roughly keep Uh huh.
Oh, man, it's great.
I mean, no one could sell a moment like J R.
I mean, come on, the guy.
You know, obviously you couldn't see the video.
I'm watching it.
Pan Thio his his mother, who who looks very oddly like, uh, and body.
You know, those commercials way have aunts.
Hey, Ambani's here.
The woman with short red hair.
It actually looks exactly like her.
Now that I see this, obviously it's not her, I would assume, but it is pretty funny, but yeah, that that was I believe his first, uh, WWF title win, obviously making stone cold tap out.
It was It was a lot of fun.
But anyways, that that's what sparked that conversation yesterday.
And then the realization that I have no idea what I'm talking about when it comes to what day it is.
So, um, but that also gives us an opportunity to mention that unfortunately, there was a bit of sad news this morning right before we got on there and anyone who's old school wrestling fan.
And this actually has to do a little bit with the NFL, too.
You know, there's a there's a link there.
So Road Warrior animal, unfortunately passed away today at the age of 60.
And, uh, what one of my favorite obviously factions and groups.
And of course, how could you not get amped up when you heard this thing? Oh, yeah, that's right.
Animal unfortunately, passed away.
And we all know, actually, Animal is the father of former NFL linebacker James Laurinaitis, formerly of the ST Louis Rams.
So, um, sad news.
And of course, you know, we're both old school wrestling fans, so that that was that was a tag team or a faction that we certainly followed when we're younger.
Well, without question, I mean, whether you call them the Road Warriors, whether you call in the Legion of Doom, thes guys were at the top of the hill.
I mean, they were they were the best at what they did.
They riled up the crowd.
Um, they were, you know, larger than life personalities.
Big guys coming in with the, you know, the despite shoulder pads, the face paint.
I mean, everything that you wanted to embody in an eighties wrestling tag team was with road warriors in the Legion of Doom.
And I remember them from their days back in the early days of the N w A.
Coming into WWF's legion of Doom was definitely big scene in feud with demolition and the nasty boys and some of the old, you know, tag teams that WWF used Thio trot out hawking animal were it? And Joseph Laurinaitis his, you know, Road Warrior animal, obviously.
Is his his tag team partner Mike, passing away a few years ago, Actually, you'd be You'd be surprised you'd be surprised he passed away in 2003.
Yeah, I was thinking more along the lines of, like, 2012 2013? No.
Yeah, it's pretty incredible, actually.
In Indian rocks beach of all places, which is just a hop skip and a jump from where I am right now.
So, um but yeah, I mean, again, you know, this is ah, conversation, or this is a discussion.
We have all too often, I I haven't seen the cause of death.
Ah, quick browse of his Twitter account, Um, shows that he was relatively active pretty recently.
So I don't know if this is a sudden thing.
I'll be honest, I I don't know if he was dealing with any sort of, um, extenuating health cir***stances, but we all know, unfortunately, the short lifespan of of this era of wrestling superstars and, you know, he just might unfortunately be yet another.
Another statistic when it comes to, you know, just looking back at this era of wrestling.
And, you know, we mentioned you know, his his tag team partner Hawk dying in Indian rock speech.
Well, you know, we've mentioned many times before.
Randy Macho Man Sa***e also met his demise.
Uh, right around this area down here in Florida and, you know, again another another guy from that area that, you know, again, you you know what they went through.
You know what they put their bodies through and again, So many examples of the long lasting effects of that which are which are pretty unfortunate.
Yeah, I feel like a broken record, but it's far to comment on the tail when it comes to thes gentlemen, especially P eighties wrestlers that really like you said.
But their bodies through and an incredible amount of strain.
And I always come back to the comment that Roddy Piper on HBO's do***entary that he did with with Bryant Gumbel and said, Look, I don't expect to live past 60 and he did, but very good, barely e mean, you know, if you want to take a look at it.
You know, Roddy passed away at 61 thes guys knew they knew what they were doing.
They knew that it would eventually catch up with them someday.
But at the time, they just it was It was the era of good feelings and wrestling.
In the eighties, it was an era and invincibility.
I think in a lot of ways, and so often, you know, we we tell these stories and we have to accompany it with Gone taken from us far too soon.
And yeah, I mean, you know, Joseph, passing this morning is definitely another example of that.
So they'll live on.
They will live on in memory without any question the world warriors air.
You know, W w we all Famers there.
Ah, legendary tag team.
They're still talked about to this day you play that that theme music.
It's still played in arenas throughout throughout sports, and that's a testament to just tell.
Indelible of a mark they left on pro wrestling.
So, uh, condolences to his family made Joseph rest in peace and, you know, just just a sad thing and a sad reality that so many families that have been connected to pro wrestling, especially during that era, have to endure.
Yeah, and and and again, I mean, that's sadly I would say this is not gonna be the last time we have this conversation about, you know, one of those Arthur's.
And, you know, it is just what it is.
But anyways, going back to the whole theme of me just having ah, complete flip flop of what days or what? And what happened on what? There was another anniversary that happened yesterday.
Actually, it actually happened yesterday.
I should have brought it up yesterday, but I thought yesterday was today, and you know, hey, here we are.
But September 22nd, 16 years ago for all you lost fans out there, and I know there's probably a few of you out there.
15. Took off from Sydney, Australia.
22nd 2000 and four.
That's right, folks.
One of my favorite shows.
It's one of those shows, uh, much like 24 I always kind of when I speak of 24.
I always I think, you know, lost is not too far back in my subconscious when I speak of it because they ran concurrently.
Essentially, I mean, lost premiered a couple years after 24 but the bulk of their runs, uh, happened at the same time to the point where well, the first run of each, you know, and I speak specifically about 24 because obviously we know it had a couple resurgence is since then, but the original run of both shows ended one night after another.
And I remember how devastating and how horrible, horribly horrible the anticipation was for it.
Because I loved both shows and I knew both shows.
We're going off the air, and within a span of 24 hours, it was brutal.
Um, but yeah, unbelievable show fun show if you If you haven't watched it, its's, um I encourage you to do so.
I think that era of television was was pretty fantastic.
I mean, we've obviously mentioned The Sopranos many times.
Uh, you know, obviously premiering a little bit before both of them, uh, 24 then lost was a really an incredible I mean, we it's hard.
You know, people kind of forget now, but, I mean, that was an incredibly daring, uh, attempt at making a network television show.
I mean, they're they're pilot episodes that the first two episodes that aired, you know, the crash, everything like that was was by far like, I think, the most expensive pilot episodes of any sort of national, non HBO or non premium network show.
And, uh, and at the time in 2004 it was just It was even more unheard of.
And and and look, I mean, it was it was a great show.
Say what you want about how it ended.
I mean, I know some people still sit there trying to figure out okay, wait, what happened? Exactly, Um, to me, the reason I love the show is I love the character driven nature of it, and that's to me something that I can always, um you know, outside of, like, the plot points and what actually happened in the Siri's, I could go back and watch that Siri's just for the character development and enjoy that just because it was it was so good at that.
So yeah, What a lot of anniversaries.
Uh, this this weekend? September? Yeah, Yeah, a lot of anniversaries.
And I think you, you know, you're you're on to something there with not that you're onto something.
But I do agree with you when it comes.
Thio lost, It's It was a very character driven show.
And you know, you Ah, lot of times you develop those relationships with those characters.
I think that's one of the reasons why it endured so well, uh, maybe one of the reasons why the final episode wasn't a satisfaction satisfying to ah, lot of the viewers of that show that it was because there wasn't a lot of character resolution.
There was still something I shouldn't say resolution.
But there wasn't a whole lot of character development leading to the resolution.
There was still a lot of confusion and things of that nature.
So I think in a lot of ways that those types of shows developed that that that that indelible mark with their audience and it never goes away.
It's kind of like what you know.
Our relationship is with 24 how we, you know, have basically still dedicated shows here on F.
Radio Life Full shows Thio the legacy of 24.
It's just it's one of those Siri's that stays with you.
And, you know, you mentioned network television.
There weren't a whole lot of shows on network TV that we're able to do that.
Um, you know most of the shows the indelible shows in last a couple of decades have come from HBO, AMC or, um, you know, Netflix or, you know, things of that nature.
But network television was still able to turn out a very, very compelling, you know, very compelling dramas.
And Lost was definitely one of those one of the best of its generation.
Yeah, and look, I mean, obviously we think of TV Ah, in a much different manner now.
I mean, this is this is 15 20 years ago.
We're talking about lost in 24.
But, you know, they they were some of the pioneer shows when it comes to what we or how we see network television now.
Now I mean again, like you mentioned, it's It's evolved since then because because of the addition of of other networks, like like you said a M C eyes a big one because they produce their own programming, they have bigger budgets.
HBO obviously has different, um, avenues in which they could go because of their fewer restrictions when it comes to network TV.
So it has evolved even beyond what it evolved from 20 years ago, but that you know those shows, you know.
And then again, I throw in The Sopranos and things like that were really some of the first Thio serialized, I guess.
I mean, you know, before then it was like, Yeah, you get some dramas, you get some stuff like that.
But, you know, it's mostly, you know, sitcoms.
It was 30 minutes.
Uh, you know, shows like that.
You know what I mean? There wasn't this, like, obsession with these, uh, dramatized shows, these essentially long movies.
And that's what it was when I was lost.
You're talking about one season is you know, in 24 State, 24 episodes of you Know Roughly 50 Minutes and and Lost was was pretty similar.
I think they were like a 21 22 episode clip for for a majority of the run until the writers strike.
So, um, I don't know if it was impressive and it's it's a show.
I think it's it's coming up in the rotation.
I haven't watched through it, uh, recently, but I tend to do it every 18 months or so.
And it's one of those you know shows that you can come back to you, relive it as you're watching it again for the however many times, uh, you know, 100 and eight times.
You're coming back to 24.
The Sopranos is that type of show to it, almost plays head games with you where you try to envision different scenarios.
But what if he did this? What if this happened? How different would the show have then? That, to me, is the enduring legacy of shows like that, Like Lost like 24 like The Sopranos Game of Thrones, I think.
Well, you know, put throw into that as well.
There's so many twists and turns and you can watch it so many times you can feel the emotion again.
But to me it's that element of what if What if they did this differently? What if this one this way, this could have completely derailed that season or this season? So, um yeah, that's the reason why I really I love, you know, continuing binge watching type dramas.
I think now that you look, it shows like lost, it really is made for binge watching.
At the time, it wasn't binge.
But now, now you watch it in a cluster and it's even.
It's even better not to have to wait on exorbitant amount of time, which, you know in this, you know, society Now is a week.
I would have thought, like a week. A.
It's an intermodal.
Here's all the time, but here's the thing.
Here's the thing, though, and there's good and bad to that.
Like obviously again we think I've been watching now is just it's second nature, but go back again 15 20 years that that doesn't exist because you were just getting the first.
TiVo's I mean, that was the first, I guess.
Adaptation of what we know as a DVR.
I mean, before it was okay.
You have to go find a cassette.
You know, the HSE put it in the VCR, and, you know, try to figure out the timing mechanism.
If not, if the show aired at one and you had to leave it seven or aired at nine, you had to leave it seven.
Well, guess what.
You got two hours of filler before the actual episode because you're gonna figure out the **** VCR.
Uh, so anyways, there's really no concept of binge watching because you would, on top of all that, have to wait until the season was over.
Um, And then obviously go through and watch it all.
But but here's the thing.
I enjoy binge watching, Uh, just justus Muchas anyone at times.
Um, but the anticipation in the build up week, the week, and I know we've talked about this before, but the anticipation and build up week, the week of a show where you can sit there and just, like, basically, uh, just dissect every small little detail of every scene.
Um, it kind of makes the experience of the season a lot more.
You know what I mean? Like binge watching is great and all, but like by the time I process, like, say, if I'm watching a new show and I get through one season by the time I, like, catch up and mentally processed it, I'm already halfway through the next season, You know what I mean? So, like, I have to go back and I feel like I missed things.
When you when you're watching one episode, sometimes you know throughout the week.
If you know you watch the premiere 24 well, throughout the week, I'd probably watch that episode like two or three times, you know, just like at certain points like, Oh, it's Thursday night.
I'm going to bed.
I'll watch 24 episode again.
See what I missed Or something like that.
Um, you know, insert breaking, bad game of Thrones, whatever.
But I kind of miss that, but at the same time, it's like I'm sitting there like, you know, watching the clock, knowing, like, Okay, this is the last commercial break and the anxiety that that that I have to wait an entire week just kills May.
No, that's a good point.
And I'm glad that you mentioned that because it is, I think, maybe more satisfying.
It's at some point to binge watch a show when you've already seen it, because then you're able to really invest in this story.
You kind of know what's coming.
You're able to really take a look at maybe details and things that you missed on the first shot.
It is there is something to be said about really digesting an episode before you move onto the next one.
Really be able to understand what the story was that was trying to be told in the previous episode in order to get ready and be absolutely, you know, set for the second episode.
That's something that we haven't at least I personally haven't experienced in quite a while with shows.
You know, most of you know, the the shows that I'll watch and what not have you know, released in, you know they will be released, Um, all together, you know, and that's something that you don't you don't have to await each and every week.
Now watch the new episode.
Whereas I remember that weekend between 24 episodes or that Sunday.
That was Sunday split between.
You know, The Sopranos was always, uh, you know, it was always anxiety ridden because you couldn't wait to find out what was gonna happen.
24 24 was really the best at it because they managed to somehow make every ending toe, like, every episode dramatic and and not take away from, You know what I mean? So, like, 24 was just absolutely brutal toe watch, but but, you know, they started doing some of those things that were really cool.
So, like when the season would premier, they start to win back to back nights, and it would be like four episodes.
So they do like, two hours on Monday, two hours on Tuesday and then, you know, from that point on, it would go 1 to 1.
So it give you a little, you know, enough to satisfy you that you could calmly get through the rest of the season by going week to week.
But yeah, it was it was pretty brutal, actually, was very brutal.
I'm not gonna lie.
Just trying to get through the week.
Todo anticipate the new episode but, um, real quick before before we actually talk about sports.
Uh, I, uh, one of my old cars actually just bought a new car.
Um, funny story.
I don't want to say I own because, Well, that that would kinda, um, contradict the the conclusion of this story.
But I drove a 2001 infinity about 15 years ago.
Um, it was taken away from May because of some, you know, financial disagreements.
Uh, let's put it this way.
Um, I was young, stupid, and I couldn't afford it on, and it was forcefully taken away from me by a tow truck at, like, 11.
Anyway, it's fast forward.
15 years later, I actually found the same exact car.
Different color I mentioned to you.
I I used to have a black one.
It is now a white one.
So it's kind of like the black and white cookie.
Um, but I found 1 15 years later, I bought the car.
I mean, it's it's much cheaper now than it was, you know, 15 years ago when it was almost brand new.
Uh, but 60,000 miles.
I'm pretty happy about it anyways.
back to the original point.
One card that I had.
5 years planning and preparing to stop my odometer.
So it read 48 15 16 23 42 across both the trip meter and the actual odometer.
So I have a picture of that, and I'm very proud of that moment.
I had to whip over to the side of the road on the highway to get the picture, though.
So, uh, that's how much I enjoyed loss.
Let's let's put it that way.
Oh, that's great.
That is, that's That's an excellent story.
And we thank you for sharing that.
But I mean, it really is.
I mean, that that I think that shows your dedication to the show.
Maybe my priorities are misplaced because again, I spent a significant amount of time planning this.
I mean, literally three years, I I thought I had to This.
So, um anyways, back to sports stick sports.
Mike, Let's stick to sport.
No, we we can't stick to sports here because, well, you know, we we just have so many things running through our minds.
But guess who's back.
Mike, Guess who is back.
Way to keep us in 2004.
Yeah, that's right.
Well, I was going to say Blake Bortles is back, My friend.
Um, the Yes, yes.
Um, no Blake board of signs of one year deal with the Denver Broncos, which, you know, shouldn't be too surprising.
I mean, like relative thio.
Just that situation again.
Waken gettinto debate about who is and isn't signed at the quarterback position.
I'm not really looking to do that.
But Blake Bortles obviously is going to help fill or fill the gaps left by Drew Lock, who is out 2 to 6 weeks with an A c joint injury.
Which that's the same injury that Jimmy G suffered when he was, you know, starting those couple of games with the Patriots before, while Tom Brady was suspended.
Speaking of suspensions for natural deflation of footballs.
Did you hear this, Mike and I want to get your opinion on this because I I do find it funny that integrity is out the window.
Mark Ingram on that 30 yard touchdown run.
Did you know that they used the cable for that? They use the cable, the cable, Ted Wells.
$10 million investigation.
Integrity of the game.
I want to see Mark Brunell crying all of this.
I want to hear people tell me that that they're cheaters, that their integrity of the game, that they should be stripped of everything.
I want all of the investigation.
You know, it's not going to get a shred of media attention.
It's not going to get a shred of the league's attention.
Just happens to be that it's not the New England Patriots, folks.
That's exactly why it's not going to get any attention whatsoever.
Oh, I I Yeah, I just I just didn't believe what Tom Brady had to say.
Um e just didn't believe what Tom Brady had to say.
Um, just I just didn't believe with Tom Brady.
You know what's there any more pathetic of a performance on national television than that? I mean, how I mean, Okay, okay, pretend for a minute that everything that they said about the flight gate was shared.
Tom Brady orchestrated this entire thing.
He physically checked in on the ball.
Boy, is it worth getting up on national television and act like you're sobbing because of No, I mean, that was I mean, if there was, there's so many things about that whole.
Thio, look back at that whole situation and reliving, like, 10 years from now, we'll still be doing the show.
Obviously, e, I can't wait for the dam.
Yeah, they're gonna get find something We have reached Peak.
Zoom comes this morning.
When that popped up on my screen today, I was seriously, really e I was gonna I was gonna say, Guys, help me out here.
We all have sure like that in our collection.
Yeah, well, you know, ps, I numbers from 2015 but, you know, whatever.
Look, this was I'm glad you brought up because this was really just something thick, like sad attempt at attention to get on national TV and do this, like, sob story like, Come on, for, for God's sakes, like really, really.
But anyways, the point is, I thought it was funny to see that that little notification pop up that that was the case, and we all Look, we're Mike and I are, you know, just tongue in cheek here.
You know, we're obviously don't give two squats about the fact that they used the cable.
But for those folks out there who don't know, the cable is the ball designated for, well, kicking cable.
And it's, uh, you know, it's it's it's a different Um oh, how do you say I want to say composition? Because But the inflation of Of of the set K ball is a little bit different than regular footballs.
But the point is, the point is that clearly the NFL gives nothing. No.
Two bleeps about the use of the footballs.
I mean, and we knew this from the from the beginning.
You know, we knew this from, you know, us watching this all unfold when it happened.
NFL had no idea or no clue or no really reason to care.
I mean, this isn't the only example.
I mean, remember, you know, Carolina warming up the footballs on the sideline in plain view on camera.
I mean, again, if you're going to stick to this whole letter of the law integrity of the game, blah blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Well, guess what? That was a violation.
That was on par with what the quote unquote Patriots did.
And I say did very, uh, ironically because they didn't do anything.
It was just whatever.
But anyways, I thought that was funny. One that popped up.
No, it was I saw that this morning, and that was the first thing that I thought I was like, I want Mark Brunell cry over this.
I want to see devastation in everyone's eyes.
I want to see disbelief.
I want to see the disheartening of all of these legends quote unquote NFL legends that were so devastated by what the Patriots did to the integrity of the game.
I just didn't believe what Tom Brady had to say.
I feel your pain.
It really, really is.
It's one of the worst tragedies in history.
You know, folks, really.
I mean, you know, Come on, you know it zits just again.
This is not going to get any attention.
It shouldn't get any attention.
The Flake Gate should not have gotten any attention.
It was a ridiculous which one by a team.
Pope Indianapolis on Baltimore, Um, that wanted to see the Patriots immersed to their eyeballs in raw sewage.
And they got their wish.
They wanted it. They got it.
And the public bought into it like it was, you know, the like.
It was, you know, I don't know catnip.
They really just wanted to be able to see the Patriots get taken down.
I was I was gonna say everything I was gonna say Furbys, You know, if we're gonna stick with 2004 theme remember how crazy E Yes! Yes.
Our good friend Claire did message in that 2004 called E Stuck in my own.
Hey, look, I'm okay to I love 2000 or 2004 was a great time.
Ah, see, There you go.
And I was e I graduated high school in 2000 for the Patriots.
Won the Super Bowl in 2000 for the Red Sox.
Won the world Syrians in 2004 I turned 18 in 2004.
I bought my first, uh, scratch ticket in 2004.
No, I'm kidding.
I actually no, I did.
I think I did, but I didn't.
I bought one on my birthday when I turned 18 because I was kind of like the thing to Dio It was like scratch tickets and, like, um, nudie magazines, Right? What was what is Al Bundy the job? What the hell? What does he call? I don't know.
There's something calls and I can't remember.
But anyway, so Well, that's that.
I'm trying todo I'm trying to dig my **** look.
Look like I'm trying to dig myself out of your mike.
All right? You know, I'm trying.
I'm trying to figure out how to do this.
So you know what this is? This is this is what this is what I'm gonna dio just I just didn't believe what Tom Brady had to say.
Yes, e just gotta Luke.
Tom Brady had to say See, now, Um, just I just didn't believe what Tom Brady had to say.
All right, Please, uh, see, everyone's already forgotten about what I was just talking about right there anyways, uh, attention, but it was good.
It was like that.
I'm getting better.
I'm getting better. I'm getting better at that. I got to use that when I say something stupid.
You know, then got no idea who you're talking to.
Thank you, John Locke.
Anyway, So Wednesday, that means we're finally Oh my God! Celtics air finally back.
E feel like it's been a week since they play the game of basketball.
It's actually almost has been a week.
It's been, like four days.
Uh, Celtics air back tonight.
The Nuggets picked up their first win, so they're back in the Siri's down two games to one.
Much like the Celtics are, Uh, but we also have another Stanley Cup final game today and that syriza is not it at once.
So we got we got some playoff sports going on.
Um, I'm pretty excited for it.
And of course I mean, we got we got a pretty big weekend here in the NFL.
So I want to go back to something, though.
Stick to the NFL because that's that's what we do best outside of 24 other nonsense and, you know, going back to the year 2004.
Um, I brought up after week one.
I was like, You know what e I was? I was impressed.
We talked about Cam Do and I was impressed with what? You know what he did in week four and I asked.
I was like, Hey, how long is it gonna take the Patriots before they end up signing this guy to an extension? Because if he keeps doing what he was doing and again, this was after week one, if he keeps doing what he's doing, you know the Patriots aren't gonna let him get the free agency.
This is like, I mean, how can you not see this as a wow? We just had this guy fall into our lab.
Well, fast forward a week, and I think those calls are much louder.
I think that that idea has has started to blossom a bit within the Patriots.
Um, you know, fan base and Media Group in particular.
Because I have seen a few articles, uh, kind of, you know, projecting what could come together and Cam to his credit.
And again, the guys said Absolutely everything correct.
Um, says, you know, money is not really important, and that's that's a great thing to hear if your Patriots fan, because we just had a quarterback who was who was incredibly selfless and when it came to, um, the way his contract was structured for years and years and years.
So, um, I ask you again, how how likely do you see it that the Patriots and Cam Newton come to an extension? I think it's a given at this point before the end of the season.
I'm just trying to figure out how soon it happens.
It's gonna be a October deal.
Is it gonna be something towards the end of season? I don't know.
I'm starting to think it's the former.
I think it's going to get done fairly soon and you're going to hear about it, and you're gonna be like, Wow, Okay, go for Cam.
He just got a nice little bump.
So yeah, I think in a lot of ways I do agree with you.
I think that this will happen sooner rather than later.
I've gone on record a couple of times, whether it be here or whether it be unlocked on Patriots saying that the Patriots and can will sit down.
They'll determine what's best for them, what Cam wants, what the Patriots want, it looks like in terms of what these two entities air saying about one another each time they take the microphone phone that they're very pleased with one another.
Can scenes very happy here in New England playing for Bill Belichick playing alongside the collection of wide receivers that he's playing with, which, you know, for some reason, I don't know, there seems to be a lot of Boston quote unquote media.
I'll say that term very loosely.
Meaning, you know, afternoon drive, time dribble.
That seems to want to push the narrative that Oh, well, Cam is happy with his wide receivers.
What did that say about Tom Brady? Wanna play with those guys? That's ridiculous, folks.
If you actually read that, I just didn't believe what Tom Brady had to say.
Mark that we get it.
Thank you for your two cents.
We understand that you're distraught over this.
Please go crying for safe room on the other side of the building. Go there.
Please. Stay there until the show is over.
Basically, what I'm trying to say folks about Cam is that there is a level of contentment that I think you're seeing him play with.
And the patriots seemed to be very taken with what camp has been able to do.
He's commanded the respect of the locker room.
Steve Australia and I were talking a little bit yesterday about this, and when then Cam would run to the line of scrimmage when he would take his teammates.
They're captivated by what he's doing.
After a touchdown, he led all of his teammates to the video screen to celebrate.
They all went with him.
You know, that's something that is seems so insignificant to so many people.
But it's such a keep component of team building and team camaraderie and chemistry that these guys were building together.
Uh, they're doing this on the second you know, came of the season.
That's not an easy thing to do.
Especially that that's the point.
That's the point you haven't had preseason.
You haven't had, you know, a lot of extensive time together.
This the first time that team has ever traveled together.
Eso these air big moments for the New England Patriots when it comes to finding the guy that can take the mantra.
Take that, you know, take, you know that on that responsibility off, following a guy like Tom Brady camp can do it.
He's got the cachet to do it.
He's got the right correct attitude to do it to me.
This is a no brainer.
Lock yourselves in the room.
Guys, get this done because it doesn't make any sense to have camp playing anywhere else.
But New England.
He can throw the ball.
He can, you know, even still run.
He looks healthy.
He's locked in no better time than the present.
This man needs some sartorially Onley guy.
I'll tell you what if, if, if, if ever comes the day we're Bill Belichick.
Uh, that's a wrap I've had.
I've had it. I've seen it all.
So I don't think you'll ever see that.
I think corn sweat Your bill is much more common than what you're going to see, you know, from from Canberra E, uh, kind of elaborate, a little bit off of what we say.
Okay, so there there's and it's still I mean, it kind of shocks me, but it doesn't at the same time, but there's a lot of people pushing this and, you know, some of its very deliberate.
I mean, we saw it with the misrepresentation of the Nikkila.
Harry quote this morning, talking about Cam Newton and like people, I Let's be clear.
I love I love his attitude.
I love what he's doing.
I love how he's leading this team.
I love how he's getting the young receivers involved.
Um, let's stop pretending like Tom Brady didn't do this.
Like I saw someone say or tweet something like, Oh, you know, people are gonna want to come. They love can.
They're gonna wanna come play them And I agree with that.
I think they will.
But they wanted to come play with Tom Brady for 20 years, like What are we doing here? Are we all of a sudden forgetting that like people would would take? You know, players would take less money to come play for the Patriots because they knew they were playing with Bill Belichick and Tom Brady.
Like, Wow, I get to go play with Tom Brady, really and and like I mean, there's this insinuation that the Patriots were unable to attract veterans before.
It's like Wait a minute.
What? What? What have you been watching the last 20 years? And then on top of that, it's like people are criticizing like, Oh, look at the difference cans taking the time to work with the younger receivers.
We'll know that, Z I mean, that's a very disingenuous argument, because, yes, Cam is obviously more invested, obviously in the younger receivers.
But But there's a big difference for that.
It's not saying Tom wasn't Tom was invested to kill Harry said it himself, and I mean, we've seen, like through the first two games there that he played this season versus last year.
Yeah, he's on the same pace for Target.
So, like this idea that he's being targeted more is not correct.
But, um, Brady was just in a different time in his career.
We mentioned it yesterday.
He's 43 years old. He doesn't.
You know, there's a lot more urgency for him to succeed now and not, you know what I mean.
Whereas Cam, you know, could have a little bit patients, you know, let alone let's let's completely disregard the fact that last year was completely different with, and I mentioned this yesterday.
Thea, since it's a couple offensive linemen, the fact that kill Harry didn't even do get on the field until midway through the season, Uh, in his rookie year s.
Oh, there's so many factors that make that argument that I've seen so often made over the last week or so, so disingenuous.
And it's it's driving me crazy because I feel like you know, this this fan base, this weird segment of fan base who now look at Tom is like the villain on there.
There's there's a handful of them out there and and they they all do the same thing.
They all misrepresent whatever situation they always take every single situation, every quote from every player and always twisted negatively as, like some sort of Jabba Tom.
And it's just it's so silly to me.
And it's so like, just pathetic, Really.
I mean, come on.
Like, leave the guy.
I'm not saying leave the guy.
Leave the poor guy alone.
It's just like, Look, you're you're clearly you're off your rocker when it comes to this.
This idea that he didn't attract free agents or he wasn't a good teammate or he was a good leader.
You're just I don't know.
I don't know what you're doing.
I apparently you just got that men in black.
I flash thing and you've forgotten the entire tenure of his time here.
Like I I don't know.
I don't get it bugs May it bugs me like it does.
It bugs me as well.
And you know, yesterday I noticed a tweet because a lot of this stuff was going around yesterday.
Let's face it, it was, you know, cannon fodder for the the afternoon drive time dribble, and you know it was making the rounds on the twitterverse, especially throughout patriots.
I thought that chat on former New England car was finessing some this up perfectly and that I want to give you credit for it because I couldn't said this better myself.
And that said, I feel like hypothesizing.
Whether or not Brady would have been a better fit with this team then Cam Newton is exactly the kind of unanswerable comparison Bill Belichick always told us to avoid.
It's a dumb, self indulgent thought that could Onley possibly **** off both guys and neither one of them deserve it.
I don't think it could have been said any better.
It's absolutely asinine.
The chips fell the way they fell.
The Patriots originally would love to have had Tom Brady back in the fold for 2020.
They did want that to happen.
But on Lee, at their own price and Onley at their own terms, Brady's terms were different.
His price was different.
His thought process was different in terms of, and there are opportunities you wanna play.
There were opportunities to make this happen.
There were opportunities elsewhere.
Brady decided this was his opportunity to seek other avenues.
And he did that in Tampa Bay.
The Patriots moved on.
They weren't going to sit and, you know, cower in the corner.
Because Tom had left.
They were going to do the best they could to move forward.
For a while, it looked like that was gonna be Jared Stidham.
They ended up thinking that, you know, there was a chance that Cam Newton could come aboard once it came together.
And the price was right.
The opportunity was right.
They passed and went with Cam Newton.
So for them to say like, oh, well, the Patriots just let Brady walk out the door because they knew Cam was going to come into the door.
No, if that was the case, and they were trying to send a message the minute town signed that contract in Tampa Bay.
Two minutes later, they would have signed the contract with Cam Newton, sending a message saying, You're not the guy we wanted.
This is the guy we want.
This is the guy we're gonna move forward with.
No, it wasn't that case.
The Patriots looked at the season.
They tried to do the best they could.
They had interesting.
Can I think, From the time that Tom signed in Tampa Bay right up until the time he signed here in New England, it came together at the right moment to imply anything other than that is just digging for non existent gold.
And to me, I think, you know, you're just you're kidding yourself.
If that's what you think this narrative is all about, you wanna write for conspiracy theory.
It's a little bit different than writing what actually goes on in sports media.
Well, we we talked about this way back in March and all that, like one of the main reasons why we didn't think it was realistic.
That came, Newton would would come here was Well, the Patriots had no money.
I mean, I don't think either of us ever thought, uh, a nen credibly incentive heavy deal was even a realistic possibility.
So I think we kind of just wrote it off because I was always of the mentality.
Well, if you let Tom Brady walk, you have that $13.
5 million cap it hanging over you at the time.
You know, you didn't have a resolution to these, uh, d Antonio Brown Aaron Hernandez thing.
Um, so in my eyes, I was like, Well, they they have to go with Jared system.
It makes no sense to go out and spend additional money, especially when again, let's not forget the key name for a long time was was Andy Dalton, and no, I I still would much rather have Jared Stidham than Andy don.
I'm good with Andy Dalton.
Um, but the whole camp idea, it's just like Okay, well, you know, there's no way that he would ever we, with the Patriots would ever be able to afford him, you know? And then and then you think.
OK, well, then there's also the risk, you know, if he's healthy, all that which that's a legitimate risk, you know? Thio, Thio, ask, um but at the end of the day.
It's just that the situations played out well.
No other team decided to pounce.
No other team, uh, really wanted.
And look, by all accounts, camp is very like you said, very content, very happy with where he is, like, you know, this whole idea that, like, you know, all these all these talking points about all the patriots shortchange them Or why this Why that that's that's just all media, like you said, just media driven narrative.
Because if you ask the both of them, they're clearly and you know, instinct.
There's no, um, you know, there's no ah, they they're just What I'm trying to say is, and I was trying to avoid every instinct in my body to start going into some instinct song because I said instinct.
Um, again, 2004 is on my mind, and I can't help myself.
Um, but no, there there are there on the same page right now.
Cam's obviously taken to the role and the responsibility, uh, put on his shoulders.
Uh, Belichick and look, you know, think about Bill's age.
I think you know he will never say it, but I think there is a big part of him that wants to, by the time he retires, have more Winston Don Shula.
And in order to do that, he's gonna have to have a pretty good team for the next 345 years.
And how do you do that? Well, you bring in a guy that was a former M V P.
That's only 31 years old who can win games for you.
We've seen it already.
I mean, they didn't win in Seattle.
But if you are still questioning whether or not Cam Newton can win you football games, big football games, then you didn't watch on Sunday because to me, that's all I needed to see.
This was This wasn't the Jets.
This wasn't the Jaguars.
This was the Seattle Seahawks.
And again, it wasn't with the 12 and the crowd.
But, um, you know when when you have one incomplete, you need to drives quickly down the field in less than five minutes and you come within, you know, a niche of winning that game.
Yeah, that that tells me a lot.
I need to know about who he is.
And if I'm Bill Belichick, you know, you have Cam Newton for four or five years.
You know, say, four years, you can win some football games and guess what, get you a little bit closer and perhaps two passes? Don Shula.
So perfectly said my friend.
That's exactly the point That I think needs to be made so often.
When it comes to this is can can get the Patriots down the field and win close games.
That was essentially the knock on camera, and if you wanted to knock what he was able to do on the field, is he going to be able to rise to the occasion, come up with a big play, come up with a big moment when needed? Everybody points to the Super Bowl and not falling on the fumble and things of that nature.
This is the type of player that he is.
That was the knock on him coming into New England, and a lot of people, especially a lot of Patriots fans, had seen Tom Brady do that so often.
It was how much of a drop off are we going tohave from Tom Brady, who would essentially run through plate glass to get his team of victory to Cam Newton, who had a reputation as being someone that might not be willing to go that extra mile.
I think he's put that completely to rest.
I think that was a terrible narrative, that it was attached to him in the first place.
Everyone that I spoke to when he signed in New England, whether they covered him in Auburn with Zach Blackerby, who covered him at Auburn, was my colleague.
We talked about Can several times and he told me.
He says, Do not worry about this guy's work ethic or his desire to win.
I can guarantee you Nobody on the football field wants to win more than Cam Newton.
Maybe people wanna win Justus much, but nobody wants to win more than he does.
And, of course, you know you talk.
Thio beat writers and, you know, a mutual friend of ours, Antoine Staley, who told me about his desire to win in Carolina and has never say die attitude.
You're seeing it on the field.
There's no doubt in anyone's mind.
Now the Cam Newton wants to put together wins in New England.
He feels he can.
He's capable of doing it, and it just looks more and more like you said like a no brainer that he'll end up in New England long term.
So I think all Patriots fans were hoping for that.
We'll see if it actually does come to fruition.
There's no guarantees, folks, but I think they're moving in that right direction.
And the Patriots definitely have the cap.
Where with all, to be able to afford that type of a contract now? Yeah, Like I said, I mean, I'm not, you know, qualified to be an NFL executive.
But, um, I've seen I think I've seen enough, to be honest, like I I don't you know, in all middle.
Like I mean, I don't want to say skeptical.
I was excited of the potential, but again that the concern a lot of the concern being okay, is he healthy? And, you know, if he is healthy, where does this place and well again through two weeks? I seen enough.
You know, Thio, want to see this guy, uh, play quarterback for the Patriots for the for the foreseeable future.
So hopefully they get that done, and maybe we'll put some odds.
Maybe we'll make some predictions.
Uh, this week, Uh, as to when we think it's going to happen and it will be fun real quick. Might give me a winner.
Is it gonna be Celtics or the Heat or on? And then lightning start tonight real quick.
Just give me a winner.
I'm going with Celtics over the heat tonight.
I'm going with the stars over the light. I like it.
I'm gonna hold you to it.
So, folks, um, that's about going to do it for us.
We'll be back tomorrow.
We're gonna preview, obviously, Thursday Night Football really get into, uh, this upcoming weekend's games.
Um, e can't wait for Monday night, where One of the best quarterbacks in the league, Lamar Jackson, goes up against the Chiefs and Travis Kelsey.
And, uh, now there's a lot of great games going on this weekend.
We're going to preview, and we're going to give our picks.
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Um, just I just didn't believe what Tom Brady had to say.
Have a great day, folks.
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Let's go three just I just didn't believe what Tom Brady had to say.
Have a great day.
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