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shoes.
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And if he has what has happened there did.
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My purpose on this podcast is to cool down the hotheads of Philadelphia and just bring a little bit of grounding.
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So I don't think any of you guys air wrong.
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Yes, then had these issues.
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When you're young and you feel like you're invincible and you can get out of every tackle and you could make every play because that's what you've done all your life until you get to the NFL, it's a wake up call.
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Look, we were not what, eighteen months, twelve months away from saying that whence is an M v p N F L M v p candidate because of what he did and, you know, abbreviated seasons.
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And it was what was the injury.
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But when he played, it was this.
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Now, all of a sudden it's Oh, it's the worst thing.
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Look, a lot of things he's doing is teachable.
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How Maney passes, does he throw out of bounds? Like what? You know when other quarterbacks will just chuck it? No.
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What? I'm not gonna take the snack, The sack, The smart thing to do.
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Throw it out of bones.
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The smart thing to Dio is this.
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The smart thing to do is that he's not doing.
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He's young and inexperienced and feels that he can do everything.
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And that's his biggest downfall right now.
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Listen, Tony, you compared Pittsburgh's Ben Roethlisberger when has named me two running backs at Rothenburg? Roethlisberger's had the receivers that he had in the last couple of years, arguably the best receiver in the league.
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Carson Wentz has never had these weapons.
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All due respect, Andrew saying it's not about the weapons it absolutely has to do with playmakers on this team has to do with that.
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I disagree.
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I dio Listen, here's my thing and and again, like this before, went on there and I told like my line of thinking drastically changed because I sat there in week two and I watched guys like Justin Herbert, who was a rookie.
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Okay, who found out he was starting a game five minutes before game time and threw for three hundred and twelve yards a touchdown in the pic with okay, he has Keenan Allen.
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I get that. That's great.
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Okay, But my my point is he was able to play well.
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Okay, Joe Burrow is able to play well.
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Jeff Freaking Driscoll came into a game for Denver, passed for two hundred fifty six yards and a touchdown, and they almost be Pittsburgh Steelers on the road.
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Okay? They almost did it.
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And car tell.
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What do all of them have in common? Explain to me.
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What do they all have to come? Every one of them has in common a running game that can keep you ask the questions. And you finished.
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Okay.
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What do you mean? You know Ben Gordon.
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So we don't have mall Sanders now? Mall.
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Sanders sucks.
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No, no, I'm not saying my why.
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Where's the money game? Did they? How much did they utilize him? Four point nine yards a carry, one hundred six yards.
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Russian, Russian.
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How many times did you get the ball? How many times you get the ball? Did you get twenty five? Yeah, he They ran the ball twenty seven times, twenty times a mile. Sanders.
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It's five times with Boston, Scott and two times with Corey Clement.
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So there's your fricking running game.
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Okay.
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On an offensive line that actually can pass block, Carson got sect.
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How many times zero gets the Rams zero Lane.
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Johnson was the number two ranked offensive tackle in Week two, but Carson doesn't have weapons.
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Dallas, Qatar Zach Ertz.
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I'll take any two of them over any Thio.
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It's not a question about weapons, it's not a e.
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I don't think it's not to me.
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It's not weapons.
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What absolutely everything.
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It's weapons.
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That's that's ridiculous.
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That's not Whiteside didn't catch the touchdown pass with D. K. Metcalf.
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Have caught that ball.
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He shouldn't hold on.
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Hold on because, of course, and wet weather threw the ball when he was supposed to, JJ would have a chance to catch the ball.
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J. J went away from the football.
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The kids good enough, e think This is a guy who was so shell shocked at what happened to him in Washington that he may have been seeing ghosts on Sunday.
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Who knows? But when you're pulling out, you know Driscoll and Herbert these Air guys that have basically they're playing with house money because they're not expected to wait.
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They go out there and they sling it all over the place on if they throw five interceptions.
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So what? Nathan Peterman gets a guaranteed contract in the NFL Carson is expected to win, and that that's a difference.
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Mike, I completely agree with you.
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Yes, those guys, they have nothing to lose.
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Look, I'm all right.
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I got the light shining on me.
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I'm gonna g o like, you know? I mean, there's not the pressure of an entire city a team.
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Uh, you know, it hasn't been going well.
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I mean, that's that's a lot of pressure, but, I mean, I just want to speak for the Pittsburgh brass.
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If you guys are interested in trading Carson Wentz, I do believe the Steel City is gonna be looking for a quarterback, Senator.
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See that? That's great, because you here's the thing.
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Like e think.
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I think John, you unintentionally stumbled onto something because I have friends, acquaintances, contacts, social media followers, whatever their fans of other teams that, like they tell me that they would take Carson Wentz in a second.
00:06:02
So, Tom, back to your point, though, when you say is Jalen hurts the right pick, Well, I will tell you he's absolutely the wrong pick in that spot because now guess what? Carson's looking over his shoulder when he probably shouldn't have to be stopped man.
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Come on.
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So when there arrives with the boy was looking over his shoulder.
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You know, Bridgewater, you could have got this guy.
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You could have guys.
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In fact, the fact of the matter resist, they probably could have gotten Jalen hurts two rounds later on Drafted one of the seventy five linebackers.
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It was available to them in round two, and maybe they'd be able to stop the run a little bit.
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And you know what? You know what? I believe that I did until yesterday.
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And so I start to think about this and think about this theory fellow seriously on.
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What's up, James? It's actually heat race.
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You know, I get heat radio a lot, but it's actually heat ratio.
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What's up, buddy? Thanks for joining in.
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But listen, all I'm gonna say is this is pure brilliance by Doug Peterson, Howie Roseman.
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And here is why? Because now, now they saved their jobs way.
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Alabama.
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A quarterback you excel in the NFL way re****s the headphones and relax.
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All right? Just hold on.
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Okay.
00:07:32
At the end of the day, listen, At the end of the day, I don't know what Jalen Hurts is going to be in the NFL with his Montedio.
00:07:40
Understand? Okay, I understand that.
00:07:43
But I'm gonna tell you one thing that if the Eagles start off two and four, that Jalen Hurts is gonna start.
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And I'm gonna tell you something right now.
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If Jalen hurts starts, Carson is never getting his job back.
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It's my I'm telling you that, right? I will go on record to say that right now.
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If Jalen hurts, you know why I'm like, I hear Honestly, this is why? Because I think that Doug Peterson had dreams about offense he could formulate around. Jalen hurts.
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I think right now he's saying in the back of his mind, I'm good.
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If Carson doesn't work out, I say, Listen, that's why drafted Jalen hurts because I wasn't sure.
00:08:20
That's why drafted down, right? Listen, I now I'm gonna play twenty eight million reasons why they try to think.
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But listen, that doesn't mean anything in NFL.
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Let's think about something real here, real face.
00:08:32
Listen to this clip, and I'll tell you what I think about this, Okay? What? I'm reading this and you guys think what you are.
00:08:38
Hey, Doug, You guys have sort of fallen into, you know, a bit of a bit of the whole the last three seasons.
00:08:44
Now, I'm just curious, you know, as the head coach, Um, like, mentally, is it a little bit exhausting for you, too? Uh, you have to go through this again and, you know, deal with with all of our questions as well, uh, dealing with your questions. Air exhausting.
00:09:01
That's what's exhausting.
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Handling the wins and losses.
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Um, you know, that's a little bit easier than handling your questions, but no, listen, obviously we get into this.
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This is a sport that I love.
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This is a sport I loved.
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I love to play it.
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And now I love to coach it.
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And, you know, obviously we we get into this business toe win, right? And obviously I've been I've been hired here, Thio win championships and to win games.
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And so here's what I want to say and I'll let you guys talk.
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I've been here.
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I've been hired the win games right to me, that is the opening to say, Listen, when I decided to put Jalen hurts into the lineup, I'm going to say I'm trying to save my job because I'm saying my job.
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If Carson looks like he doesn't and does not progress it all and continues down this path and I don't make a change, I'm gonna lose my job.
00:10:05
So right now he's saying right there.
00:10:07
So when that question comes to him seven weeks from now, if Jalen Hurd to start and say, Hey, listen, I need the win football games I have a job to do.
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I have to put this team in the best position to win.
00:10:18
Dave, I'm gonna go right to you and my completely off base.
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Or what do you think? I don't think Doug Peterson wanted the draft.
00:10:26
Jalen hurts.
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You think that Doug Peterson wanted him on the dean? I would say absolutely.
00:10:32
Doug Peterson is a quarterback, right? He loves Carson Wentz.
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He doesn't wanna have Carson went the answer.
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Carson Wednesday, You got this guy looking over your shoulder.
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He never wanted that.
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I will guarantee you any amount of money that I have that Doug Peterson did not want.
00:10:50
Jalen hurts at the second pick.
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Maybe the six picks seventh pick whatever, but I think you're completely off base and I would never on leeway.
00:10:59
Jalen Hurts, sees the field for the Eagles as quarterback is.
00:11:03
If Carson Wentz breaks his leg again, where something else happens home where he can't play, there is no way that he has taken Carson's job a chance to win.
00:11:15
Who gets the best chance to win? E.
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I could tell you right now right now is still Carson Wentz.
00:11:23
But if he continues down this, listen, I'm telling you what man the Cincinnati game is gonna be. No joke.
00:11:32
If people are taking this game lightly, they're out of their mind.
00:11:35
They're out of their mind on.
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I'll tell you what if the Eagles start off out and three, if they start, I went three.
00:11:42
They could easily in this next stretch go to and seven.
00:11:46
Yeah, right.
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And you're gonna tell me that Carson still gonna be playing two and seven.
00:11:51
I think they definitely plays.
00:11:53
And I think also, Jeffrey Lori should be firing Howie Roseman, his personal people, and Jim Schwartz right next to it.
00:12:00
Mike went nuts in the beginning of this thing.
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Talking about Shorty given up touchdown.
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I'll defend them.
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The Washington game.
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They gave up touchdowns in the beginning of the game because caution threw interceptions.
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Last week's game he let he let that kid with no feet stand in the pocket.
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Didn't blitz.
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Didn't cause pressure.
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He Swiss Jesus.
00:12:22
Jared Goff did, and Short sat there and took it on the chin the whole day.
00:12:27
We're gonna get to that day because I got a clip for you about Mr Schwartz.
00:12:30
Take it on the chin.
00:12:31
Alright, we're gonna get like that.
00:12:32
But John, like, honestly, real quick before you go to job.
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I just want to touch on one thing that Dave said real quick.
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But when when Dave asked, Who gives you the best chance toe win? I am in full agreement that it's Carson to your point.
00:12:50
Why Jalen won't play because the NFC East ISS so mediocre that nine and seven is probably going toe win you the division again.
00:13:01
And if you don't like you won't see.
00:13:04
Jalen hurts until the Eagles lose eight nine, ten games.
00:13:09
Now, does that happen? Could that could that happen? Sure, anything could happen.
00:13:14
It's flip in twenty twenty, right? E mean, I honestly think that until they are out of playoff contention, you got no shot at Sealand dancin Jalen, so we gotta get some comments.
00:13:29
So we got Andrew checking in.
00:13:31
Talking about Carson is a grown man.
00:13:33
Suck it up and play football.
00:13:34
I agree.
00:13:35
I got Paul checking in, who agrees with May, and Roger is playing fine.
00:13:38
And so they picked his heir apparent, right? So he listen, he's not worried about Mr Love, right? He's not worried about that.
00:13:45
Mike texting.
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You needed depth in places where the back.
00:13:48
I agree with that one hundred percent.
00:13:49
Patrick Patrick.
00:13:50
We were sitting there, right? I mean, the linebackers were sitting there right there for us in a position of need.
00:13:56
I get it.
00:13:57
I understand that James Eagles don't know how to draft.
00:13:59
I think we all know that course and wets behind the forty Niners.
00:14:03
Old line equals Super Bowl chains.
00:14:04
Pump the brakes a little bit.
00:14:05
I don't know about that, Rick.
00:14:08
My boy Rick Second and Rick went has his faults.
00:14:10
But if you can't be successful, whence then the coach is the problem that start real problem.
00:14:16
That's Brown problem, right? And and listen, Robert checks it again.
00:14:22
I'll tell you why I went to the next member of the Heat ratio.
00:14:24
We got major problems on this show, major, because with the amount of profanity might just use, and with Carson being a religious type man, Mike's in trouble is going to hell.
00:14:36
But, John, let's talk about S o much.
00:14:41
Trust me.
00:14:42
Uh, so we'll be there there, brother.
00:14:43
But John, seriously.
00:14:45
All listen, I know Mike checking out his comment.
00:14:48
Everybody see him and Dave or not.
00:14:50
And with the Wendt has his fault.
00:14:51
You can't be successful with Went to the coaches. The problem.
00:14:54
Listen, I still think we have a dog Peterson problem, But I also think we have a Carson Wentz problem.
00:14:59
I don't know, man.
00:15:00
You are the voice of reason here Before we move on the next question let me hear you elaborate.
00:15:08
Your last saving grace to bring us all together here. Done.
00:15:12
I had, like, eighty bazillion comments.
00:15:15
Look, Jalen hurts can come in to spell whence if he misses a game or two.
00:15:23
Maybe he's right.
00:15:24
You ride the hot hand, Jalen hurts.
00:15:26
You wanna talk about the weapons of Carson Wentz doesn't have what? Jalen hurts a quarterback and see Now then you can talk about the weapons that he doesn't have Carson.
00:15:38
Wentz makes his way.
00:15:40
He makes Greg Ward.
00:15:42
Looks like he's a Pro Bowler.
00:15:44
Okay, so let's just and he's off the practice squad, so there's a big difference in there.
00:15:49
Can Jalen hurts? Come in and relief and throw a little ****e like a little Ah, poor passing Michael Vick? Yes, possibly.
00:15:58
He is not taking Carson's job.
00:16:01
Carson has the jitters or the sheikhs or the I need to figure out that I'm not a young chick anymore, and I gotta be smarter with myself.
00:16:12
Look, Roethlisberger was in motorcycle accidents, thinking he could beat the world.
00:16:18
I mean, it took him, you know, five missed aches.
00:16:22
He probably would have got suspended for in today's NFL, but it took him not time to at least mature.
00:16:28
And he's matured to a level where he can be an effective NFL quarterback.
00:16:34
And I'll tell you what, half a Carson Wentz, his issues or just decision making, like just he's just not doing it.
00:16:42
So there might not be separation with the receivers, but he should still be able to swing a ball in there tight, and if he can't do it, then send them to Pittsburgh.
00:16:52
That's a That's it.
00:16:55
I like that.
00:16:56
That's a good way to segue right here, Because listen, we're not gonna fix this Problem is going to continue to go on, but it definitely definitely is going toe have legs, and we're gonna continue to talk about it.
00:17:05
What? I have to answer the word draft came up a lot.
00:17:07
Okay? And I have to ask you guys looking at this did Chip Kelly actually have the best Eagles draft after all? I mean, remember Lane Johnson? Zach Ertz.
00:17:17
Those two picks are pretty **** good.
00:17:19
You know, when you look at, you know, he was the guy who booted hell we into the corner of the Nova care center.
00:17:25
Right? Hey, listen, obviously the Malcolm Smith, uh, you know, draft with that was a little bad, right? But still Lane Johnson, Zach Ertz.
00:17:35
I think they're probably the best, aren't they? They? Yeah, absolutely.
00:17:39
Well, I mean, that was a twenty twenty thirteen draft, and, you know, I like the positions that he went, except for the fourth round.
00:17:48
So the first two picks, he said Lane Johnson was the fourth overall.
00:17:51
Zach Ertz came in the second round of the thirty fifth pick overall.
00:17:55
Bennie Logan was next at defensive tackle.
00:17:58
Forgot. Yeah, right. Forgot on.
00:18:00
And then Matt Barkley was your fourth round at quarterback, right? So? So Barkley has actually done some things in the NFL, though.
00:18:10
He so he's stuck around for a little bit.
00:18:12
Uh, then you had your d back.
00:18:14
He took Earl Wolf, and then he took another defensive end, and then he took another D back, and then he took another defensive end.
00:18:21
So the talk about, like, your recipe here of what to do, I think the positions that he had and play here, I like what he did.
00:18:31
Obviously, that draft because, you know, he addressed offensive line and defensive line and a couple D backs in between.
00:18:39
And look at our holes that we need. We have now.
00:18:43
You know, eso.
00:18:45
I mean, it was a really it was a pretty good draft, Those two.
00:18:48
And you definitely hit on possible Hall of Famers, right? Yeah.
00:18:52
I mean, listen, way talk about that.
00:18:54
The two thousand seventeen draft being completely trash, right? I mean, it was basically what we didn't even need to show up that year.
00:19:00
obviously because it was terrible, but yeah, I mean, Mike, you know, to think about that.
00:19:06
I mean, that's a pretty good **** draft from Chip Kelly.
00:19:09
He was not here right now, you know.
00:19:11
It absolutely is.
00:19:12
It was.
00:19:14
It's odd, though, because you referenced the Marcus Smith pick and I said, Malcolm Smith, I know who you're meant, though, and it's It's just it's weird because Chip had this thing where anybody who had played quarterback at one time was on his radar because he felt like they had the intelligence and they got it.
00:19:38
I mean, even Lane Johnson at one point was a quarterback.
00:19:41
And, um, I think that there are certain merits to that when you talk about because the guys that he drafted I mean, other than Marcus Smith, he did draft fairly well.
00:19:58
Um, I have to believe that Marcus Smith and Danny Watkins were probably the two biggest busts his team has ever drafted.
00:20:08
John Harris, John Harris? John Harris has to be.
00:20:12
Oh, he's probably up there, too.
00:20:15
It's funny, though, how people rip on like Mike Mamula.
00:20:20
But if you look at Manolas numbers compared to some of these other guys.
00:20:23
It's not even close.
00:20:25
Mike Mammals showed up every week.
00:20:27
He did? Yeah, that is true.
00:20:31
That is that one.
00:20:32
Yeah, I get Chip.
00:20:34
All the credit in the world he was.
00:20:36
He was a better drafter and a better offensive scheme guy.
00:20:43
I think that a lot of people give him credit for.
00:20:45
It's just a lot of the weird nuance kind of stuff that rubbed people the wrong way, and it's It followed him toe followed him to San Francisco, and now it's followed him to U.
00:20:58
C L. A egotistical.
00:21:00
That's what it was.
00:21:01
It was absolutely one hundred percent.
00:21:03
John, What's up, buddy? We would say, No, you can't.
00:21:06
You can't consistently have bad draft years.
00:21:10
You can have a bad draft year.
00:21:13
You know what I mean? Like you hit.
00:21:14
That's fine.
00:21:15
Things don't necessarily pan on you.
00:21:17
Maybe get a guy, but you can't go to straight years without getting any guys.
00:21:24
Any guys pan on.
00:21:25
I mean twenty.
00:21:26
What was it? Twenty fourteen and twenty fifteen? There really wasn't much there like Nelson Agler, who's not even on the team.
00:21:35
It couldn't have been that good, you know.
00:21:38
Yeah, but But Nelson was, Ah, huge part of two thousand seventeen.
00:21:43
Huge part.
00:21:45
I know you have.
00:21:47
You have Thio say that he was on the team for how many years and he had a good season that one year.
00:21:54
So, yes, if you want to believe that it was him and the skill.
00:21:58
Yeah, I'm not saying that I would trade him.
00:22:00
Look, if it's give me this guy and he gets me a Super Bowl, I'm all in no doubt.
00:22:05
But you can't tell me that that guy got you the Super Bowl.
00:22:09
That Philadelphia was running him out of town going into the season.
00:22:15
No, because it was the biggest turd in Philadelphia.
00:22:20
Get in there.
00:22:21
So I'm just saying and he have one season. Don't act.
00:22:25
I'm just saying that that's that's publishing a turn for your gem from that draft class.
00:22:30
Hey, Tom, can I touch on something, Dave? Just real quick? Just say so.
00:22:35
John, You make the point about Avelar and the turd and being run out of town, and we were talking earlier about Carson's quote unquote regression.
00:22:44
Can we talk about the fact that he literally put game winning touchdowns in Nelson's hands twice last year and they were dropped.
00:22:55
He also put game winning touchdowns in God Hurts and J.
00:23:00
Jaws Hands in the same game last year.
00:23:03
E mean, but it is.
00:23:06
But it's not in the sense that when we're talking about guys like Angle are now and I'm not even, I'm not even not even going back to Carson.
00:23:15
Hear what I'm saying is it? We're talking about guys like angle are and and eventually we're gonna wind up having the same discussion on JJ.
00:23:22
All it is like angle are, you know, he goes to Las Vegas and people are crowning them.
00:23:31
In two games, he's two for forty two, but people were crowding him because he caught a touchdown pass that any rookie wide receiver would have caught.
00:23:40
Did anybody see Amar E.
00:23:42
Cooper's catch? Yes, I did see a Mark Cooper sketch man.
00:23:46
He would look good in the Eagles helmet.
00:23:48
You don't think he would help our corner try? They try.
00:23:52
They did not try.
00:23:54
Listen, they tried to sign him as a free agent way.
00:23:58
I listen.
00:23:59
We could sit here and talk about drop balls.
00:24:03
We could sit here and talk about bad routes we could hear talk about everything.
00:24:06
But every quarterback deals with that.
00:24:07
At the end of the day, my final point is the end of the day when you are paid one hundred and forty.
00:24:13
One hundred and fifty hundred sixty. Whatever.
00:24:15
It is million dollars.
00:24:16
Okay.
00:24:17
You are paid to be the guy you were paid to jump through every friggin obstacle in front of you.
00:24:22
That's what you're paid to.
00:24:23
Dio. Listen, Russell Wilson.
00:24:25
Before he had a tremendous class of receivers.
00:24:28
He was made to go through obstacles and be the guy thought oven McNabb before he got thio was made to be the guy, right? They're made to be.
00:24:37
This is your This is your choice.
00:24:39
You want to get paid.
00:24:40
Patrick Mahomes has a ton of weapons.
00:24:42
I understand that, but Patrick Mahomes just paid to be the guy.
00:24:45
Is anybody going to question Patrick Mahomes, right? No.
00:24:49
You know why? He's not gonna give him a reason to question.
00:24:51
He's gonna make **** happen that she's gonna do.
00:24:53
And that's what Carson not doing right now. Maybe Carson.
00:24:56
I said this last week.
00:24:57
It just comes down to this guys.
00:24:59
Maybe Carson's just not that guy.
00:25:01
Maybe Carson does need to supporting cast.
00:25:03
Carson can't do it on his own.
00:25:05
And in my opinion, that's a problem, especially when you paid him to play like that.
00:25:11
Russell will be Russell.
00:25:13
Wilson had a tremendous running game for years and an unbelievable defense.
00:25:19
And who was the other quarterback? You said you said a couple, but it was one before Russell Wilson.
00:25:24
Patrick Mahomes.
00:25:26
His offense is unbelievable.
00:25:28
That is another one.
00:25:30
There's another one.
00:25:31
There's another one that you said, Who else would I say? I don't even know house that Prescott, with all his weapons and everything else that he's got.
00:25:40
How how would you rate him as a quarterback compared to Carson Wentz? Who's better right now? It's that Prescott E.
00:25:49
Prescott threw for forty nine hundred two yards last year, lining up for the evil yards multiple times.
00:25:54
So lining up for the Eagles next week.
00:25:56
You would rather have that press conference right now? Yes, yes.
00:26:00
Crazy.
00:26:01
Yes, right now. Absolutely.
00:26:03
I'd say you're talking if you're talking a week Three. Yes.
00:26:09
I want that Prescott.
00:26:10
Thank you.
00:26:11
When in an eagle's uniforms over Carson? Yes.
00:26:15
No way.
00:26:16
I I want to know when Carson Wentz is going to realize what his mistakes have been in the past two weeks and fixed him there.
00:26:26
His mistakes? Look, I'm not saying the game plans the greatest by any means, but what I'm saying is he needs to fix his mistakes by trying to do too much.
00:26:37
I like it.
00:26:38
I like it.
00:26:39
And before we end the Eagles like I got little trivia by a little Eagles trivia right now, See if I could stump the bull.
00:26:43
You're stumped the audience here Little Eagles trivia right now.
00:26:47
And this will be a sponsor segment in the next couple weeks.
00:26:50
Off Eagles players with over four hundred yards attempts.
00:26:54
Who has the best yards per rush? Average off all time Philadelphia Eagles.
00:27:00
Does anybody have a gas? Dave, Do you have a guess? Timmy Brown? No, John.
00:27:08
Do you have a guess? Uh, I'm gonna go. Ricky Waters.
00:27:13
No, Mike.
00:27:15
Do you have Are you the one hundred millionaire Donovan McNabb? No.
00:27:22
Close.
00:27:24
Close.
00:27:26
I'm gonna leave it go for a little bit.
00:27:27
I would leave you go and see if any of any of the audience.
00:27:30
Because people probably Google now but But I don't even know if you could Google this, to be honest with you, because you have to know what to Google.
00:27:38
So I'm curious to see if if somebody come up with this, So we're gonna come back to this, but none of us got the right answer.
00:27:44
Can we have a second? Can we have a second way? Have a side.
00:27:48
Well, let's move on to a little Toto, a little fillies action.
00:27:52
And then we'll move back to the Eagles trivia.
00:27:54
But before we go to the Eagles won last year in the NFL, I wanna ask you guys how Maney watched the game last night because again, it just it just basically cemented my love for Jon Gruden.
00:28:08
And honestly, I I can't say enough.
00:28:12
I wish he was the Eagles head coach.
00:28:13
I I clamor for him, but he told me I was wrong This.
00:28:16
Now I just think God loves the game, man.
00:28:18
He loves the game.
00:28:19
And I don't know if you guys seen the little love fest between him and Mike Mayock at the end of the game, which was fantastic.
00:28:25
Just, you know, just show to kind of Philly guys that's been here and it just hugging it out with the man love on the field cause they have to passion.
00:28:33
They want to make this team successful.
00:28:35
So I just think it was great.
00:28:37
I loved watching that game last night.
00:28:39
I I loved watching him adjust and basically taking what the defense gave him and make it Darren Waller focal point something that Doug doesn't know how to dio.
00:28:48
But we're going to get back to this trivia question a little bit.
00:28:52
But again, as we wanna air the Phillies playoff hopes all but gone.
00:28:57
Okay, get swept.
00:28:59
Okay.
00:29:00
And I have to ask before we get to the field, let me ask you this.
00:29:04
Okay, so this is kind of goes to the same guidelines as the Philadelphia Eagles because we're talking about who's the blame is a Carson Wentz.
00:29:12
Is it Doug Peterson? I mean, you know, or is it Howie Roseman? So when you look at this Phillies team and a lot of people have been questioning certain things that Joe Girardi does, which I think is ridiculous because, you know, listen, you got it.
00:29:25
Joe Girardi was handed this team.
00:29:26
He made a couple moves, you know, with Dede and things of that nature.
00:29:30
But this, you know, this wasn't assembled by Joe Girardi.
00:29:33
I think Joe Girardi was doing his best to keep it intact.
00:29:37
So I do not blame this on Joe whatsoever.
00:29:39
So do you play this war, Klentak, Or you may be playing this war on the players themselves.
00:29:45
You know, specifically the guys in the bullpen That seems like they forgot how to pitch.
00:29:49
And guys like Aaron Nola, who once again does not show up when we need him.
00:29:55
So you know what, John? I haven't started with you. First.
00:29:59
Let me go right to John on this.
00:30:00
I owe you. Shake your head a little bit.
00:30:02
What do you think about this? Ultimate collapse? John, this is a Girardi e.
00:30:07
I agree.
00:30:08
You know, I we talked a little bit off air about other things, and it was It was about chasing stats.
00:30:17
And I'm not saying I mean, you have guys that you bring in and you think they're gonna be They're gonna be the savior of the bullpen.
00:30:25
I mean, they brought in what? Three guys work, right? Workmen.
00:30:28
They brought in Phelps.
00:30:29
They brought in.
00:30:31
Who was the third guy? There was another guy brought in.
00:30:34
Yeah, memory.
00:30:35
Right.
00:30:36
So you bring these guys in.
00:30:38
I mean, they reliever some years, man, they don't have a four e r a.
00:30:43
The next year they have a one e r a.
00:30:46
Then maybe they have another one, and then they go back up to three and a half.
00:30:50
Look, they tried making the right moves.
00:30:53
They thought they made the right moves the bullpen got here.
00:30:56
I don't know if there's something in the Gatorade jug back in the bullpen or what's going on, but the bullpens a problem.
00:31:05
I mean, we kind of knew what the what the rotation was gonna be were pretty cool.
00:31:10
Look, even know a blow in this one or whatever.
00:31:13
We know what no one's gonna be.
00:31:15
We were pretty confident that Wheeler was a good signing.
00:31:19
There is airy ETA, which nobody really likes better than the three more like a four in questions.
00:31:26
So it's kind of what we thought it was.
00:31:28
It was just we hope that when they brought in that relief pitching help, that it actually would have been help.
00:31:35
And it was just more of the same.
00:31:36
It's not on Girardi.
00:31:37
He can't go out and make these guys pitch.
00:31:40
Well, e, I agree with you.
00:31:44
But, you know, didn't Clint tax on a guy like David Robinson who ultimately got injured, Who should have been in that bullpen.
00:31:52
You had, sir Anthony Dominguez, who who gets hurt that should have been in that bullpen.
00:31:56
I mean, I'm not saying it would have drastically changed it, but what I'm saying is again, I think we've all talked about this, and I know guys like Ranger Suarez and has has actually pitched pretty well at times.
00:32:06
But you know, this ultimately comes down to you not being able to draft well and not being able to produce your own home grown talent who most of the time start in the bullpen.
00:32:17
So I think that's been a big issue, Dave.
00:32:19
What do you think here with the Phillies, man? I hate to sound like a broken record, but a lot the same problems with the Eagles right there.
00:32:28
Inability to hit on draft picks to build a farm system.
00:32:32
Um, you know, ****ey Maniac.
00:32:35
Are you serious? E? I mean, he looks like a seventeen year old kid, Onda.
00:32:45
But when he was seventeen.
00:32:48
Hey, still looks seventeen.
00:32:50
I know it's crazy.
00:32:52
How long ago was that? You know, I mean, three and a half years ago. Yeah.
00:32:57
Hey, looks like a baby.
00:32:58
Still, you're supposed to be.
00:33:00
You know, this is the number one draft pick in major league baseball, so I don't get it, man.
00:33:06
And here's the other thing you were dangling re Muto out there, and I know this is kind of off the track here, but you have six toes.
00:33:15
Sanchez, you had a left hander Will Stewart and or a fro part of that trade.
00:33:21
And if you do not sign Rio Muto, you know you should be running out of town completely.
00:33:28
So that brings up right before Mike talks.
00:33:32
Because that brings us right to that.
00:33:33
And I want to go right thumb, like with this one.
00:33:35
I want, you know, Thio here this quick fifteen second clip because I'm thinking Dave along your lines.
00:33:41
It sounds like McClintock's already setting us up for the letdown with J.
00:33:45
T.
00:33:46
Because he was asked about this other day and and this was his response.
00:33:50
Tell me what this means.
00:33:51
Uh, you know, when you got actually, No, You know what? We'll talk about that.
00:33:55
I actually got Thio, uh, throw this in here real fast, but, um, he, you know, it almost sounds like he's setting us up to say you know what? It's not gonna happen.
00:34:03
Here you go.
00:34:04
What do you guys think? I mean, look, I think what I've said all along the way would love to have jt here.
00:34:11
But when you make that, when you make that trade, you know, you're trading for two years of control, and you know that.
00:34:18
So, um, you know, six, though, looked really good against us.
00:34:22
He's look good this year.
00:34:24
Um, but we've had two very productive years of J. T as well.
00:34:29
I mean, Mike right there.
00:34:32
I mean, he's basically saying, Listen, we had two years of control.
00:34:36
That's what we did.
00:34:37
I mean, is he setting us up to basically say, Look, I don't think this is gonna happen.
00:34:40
What do you think? I don't know that he's saying it's not gonna happen because I do think that they are going to continue to try, But it is damage control.
00:34:50
It's absolutely one hundred percent damage control.
00:34:54
Somebody should have through a D battery right across.
00:34:56
Yeah, he's trying.
00:34:59
He's trying to soften the blow should they not be able to get it done.
00:35:06
Yeah, that's that.
00:35:07
Listen, it was one hundred percent damage control.
00:35:09
Can you got to the money acting for a minute, though? Sure, sure, because I I do kind of, in a sense, feel bad for that kid because he had but hear me out on this for a second. Dave.
00:35:24
There is no way that he should have been drafted anywhere near the top ten, but the Phillies had set in their head because they had the first pick in the draft that if they could get anybody that was projected to be a top fifteen guy on the cheek, they could then go back in Round two and offer Kevin Gowdy a big enough signing bonus that he would skip college and signed with the Phillies.
00:36:00
So, ****ey Mony yak in every sense of the word is kind of like a little bit of a baseball *****.
00:36:08
He took the money in exchange for being the number one overall draft pick got undercut by probably two and a half three million dollars on the signing bonus, specifically, so the Phillies could take that two and a half three million dollars and entice Kevin Gowdy to not go to college.
00:36:30
And then Kevin Gowdy winds up blowing out His are.
00:36:33
So I never really I'm not blaming the kid.
00:36:37
No, no, I know, but there's a There's a lot of people that just want a handler, the kid, and say, Oh, he's the number one overall pick.
00:36:45
He should be better than he is.
00:36:47
Well, he is what he is.
00:36:50
If you want to blame anybody for drafted number one overall, you you blame the front office.
00:36:55
Sure, no, it's a pawn in the game.
00:37:01
I mean, they do that.
00:37:02
They're they're teams that were purposely looking at drafting guys that they're not going to sign.
00:37:09
Right? Well, you know, the biggest fear I have is exactly what James has checked in and said that J T will begin a Mets uniformed next year on.
00:37:17
I'll tell you that if he doesn't resign with the Phillies, the Mets is almost a given, and and that is, that is is horrible.
00:37:27
That can't happen just right.
00:37:30
You know what? I wanna ask you guys this because, look, you guys airway mawr Phillies fans than I am.
00:37:35
Like, I love the Phils, I will say, because I don't have much to root for, But no, but but in all.
00:37:42
But in all reality, I'm gonna ask you this when you talk about the player in the position.
00:37:49
Who other than potentially Nola Wheeler, I guess, And Bryce Harper, who could you say is more important to the Phillies? And even if you wanna put JT Upper, I mean, he's calling the pitching games like he's putting up catcher stats that are, you know what I mean? Those that's outfield like our first baseman, like or called picking All Star from any field position on top of what he does behind the plate, Where does he rank? As as you're spot on John.
00:38:23
He's the most important player on this team.
00:38:26
Number one.
00:38:27
It's over. It's a great credit.
00:38:29
It's a great question.
00:38:30
He is the most important player on this team.
00:38:33
More important than Olam or important than we were More important than Harper.
00:38:37
I completely agree.
00:38:39
He's the leader, man.
00:38:40
He's to capture their their the captains of the team, if there any, if they're worth their salt a little bit and he's obviously his third. Correct.
00:38:50
Hey is the leader of the club.
00:38:54
Think about you.
00:38:55
Think about the catching position and go around the national in the American League.
00:38:59
I mean, you know, this isn't back in the day where you had these all star catchers with, you know, with through every single division.
00:39:05
I mean, there's they're far and few between.
00:39:07
And if anybody, John, you know, you play daily fantasy, you start setting that line about the catcher's last miss you put in.
00:39:13
I mean, very rarely do you see Ah, couple above off four or five thousand draws.
00:39:18
So I mean, listen, it's to the Buster Posey effect.
00:39:22
I mean, Buster Posey was that guy for X amount of years.
00:39:25
I mean, Yadier Molina was that guy, but he really wasn't the bat, right? He wasn't the bat like J.
00:39:31
T is right now, so J t is very unique.
00:39:34
I you know I can't Listen.
00:39:36
I don't know about you guys.
00:39:37
What were you guys say? And I got an ad lib here.
00:39:39
But who was the last catcher? That was this lethal offensively that you can remember that that did vote because it wasn't Pudge.
00:39:48
Wasn't Ivan Rodriguez? Maybe. I don't know.
00:39:51
E.
00:39:54
I agree with a guy. Wasn't all ruins.
00:40:01
E o a guy wasn't ruins out.
00:40:06
Everybody wait to pick Barry.
00:40:09
You think Barry should be in the Hall of Fame? Yeah, for the roids.
00:40:15
Yeah, because he's a because he's in.
00:40:17
That's why I think Paris because he's in Jeff Bagwell.
00:40:21
Jeff Bangles in there too.
00:40:23
You stop that.
00:40:24
Hey, we're bringing up old school.
00:40:29
Let me ask you this in all seriousness.
00:40:31
What about what about Salvador Perez from the rules? Yeah, but but consistency that? Yeah.
00:40:40
You wanna talk about consistency? Look at his stats for the past seven years.
00:40:44
He will throw runners out.
00:40:47
He calls a good pitching game.
00:40:49
Do you really think that the Royals had a good pitching staff? Are you kidding me? Like, just die? I'm just saying I'm just saying like, hey, are there was a master like there's no doubt.
00:41:02
I don't know.
00:41:03
I don't know how good his, uh, his game calling game waas per se.
00:41:10
I'm not saying it was bad, but he was more done for his bat than his, you know, pitch calling.
00:41:16
So I'm gonna sell Perez.
00:41:18
Truthfully, I like that.
00:41:20
I was gonna I was gonna jump in with Mike Lieberthal, but I think I've got a way off.
00:41:23
Let me Let me ask you guys a quick question, because I just thought I just saw James this comment kind of flash across the bottom of the screen there.
00:41:33
Let's say John Middleton has to again handle negotiations on his own and he goes to J.
00:41:44
T and basically just says, Listen, Clint, Tax gone.
00:41:47
MacPhail's gone.
00:41:50
What does it take to keep you here? If John Middleton offers him a blank check? Do you think he stays? Or is it just to the point now where he's like, man F this two years? It was fun, but I'm out.
00:42:10
What do you guys think? You know, I'll go first and I'll say, I think he's out.
00:42:16
I dio I think you know Bryce Harper E o.
00:42:20
I think I think Harper.
00:42:22
But well, you know what it is.
00:42:24
You know, I think Harper will make the attempt to try to talk to him, but to see how Listen, it's embarrassing the simple fact that you have.
00:42:32
You're you have Bryce Harper who you paid all this money for and said that price we're gonna do everything we can to be competitive, that you have him holding up signs to sign.
00:42:41
JT, you have the fan Temic fans blowing horns and ****, you know, in a black saying, saying We need to sign a catcher.
00:42:49
I mean, it's embarrassing.
00:42:51
That's gonna be embarrassing for J.
00:42:52
T.
00:42:53
Rowe Muto.
00:42:54
So if I'm j t, I'm saying, Screw the Phillies.
00:42:56
If they wanna play games, I'm out.
00:42:58
I don't care what I'm out.
00:42:59
I'm going.
00:43:00
I'm already gone to me.
00:43:01
I think he's already going.
00:43:02
I hate to say it.
00:43:03
I just think he's already out.
00:43:05
Just my opinion, Dave, What do you think? I got one reason why your whole stay.
00:43:10
Joe Girardi.
00:43:12
Uh, that's okay, E like that.
00:43:15
He's a players coach.
00:43:16
He's a catcher he knows will be protected and taking care off.
00:43:21
And if the Phillies, if the Phillies do a couple things, I mean they can buy some players to help become ah, winning program.
00:43:31
I mean, they need an ace pitcher.
00:43:33
We've talked about it before.
00:43:35
Aaron Nola is not an ace, Aaron.
00:43:37
Nola.
00:43:39
Aaron Nola is a start.
00:43:41
But Aaron Nola is not an ace.
00:43:43
Um, so you know, what did the nationals do when Strasbourg was injured? In the beginning, You know, the beginning of his career.
00:43:50
He wasn't as consistent.
00:43:51
What did the Nationals dio? They signed Max Scherzer, and that was brilliant, right? I mean, that's their the things that you need to do in order to become these championship teams.
00:44:04
You know, we were not going to get it home grown, so they have to spend the money and J t definitely that has to get done if it doesn't get done.
00:44:14
And this town doesn't go in an uproar and get rid of Klentak and whoever else is on that management board.
00:44:19
They have seventeen thousand owners over there, you know, you know, it's it's goes back to the same things.
00:44:27
It's unfortunate that our programs are in disarray right now.
00:44:31
It really is.
00:44:33
It's a shame our buddy Rick's checking instead.
00:44:35
Van Brocklin.
00:44:36
Since you said close with McNabb.
00:44:38
So our trivia question.
00:44:39
But no, that is not It is well, eso if anybody and we'll go back to it again.
00:44:44
If if anybody can grab this, let us know. Eagles Trivia.
00:44:47
Off Eagle Spires with over four hundred yard attempts.
00:44:50
Who has the best yards per rush average? It's not Ricky Waters.
00:44:53
It's not Brown.
00:44:54
It's not McNabb.
00:44:55
It's not Van Brocklin.
00:44:57
So keep those guests is coming.
00:45:00
John Blank check.
00:45:01
Does he stay? Uh, so he's like that.
00:45:09
Says it all.
00:45:10
All right, he's now.
00:45:12
What it comes down to is you don't know what his day to day is.
00:45:16
You don't know what the clubhouses there.
00:45:19
If there's a reason for him not to stay, he's out.
00:45:23
If there's a reason for him to stay, he's there, you know? I mean, if if he's that buddy, Buddy, what, you're already or Harper or whatever it is or he enjoys where he's at, he thinks there's something going great.
00:45:37
If there's something like Jimmy Butler had with the Sixers, where there was just something, I smell something fishy.
00:45:43
I don't know what it is.
00:45:44
I don't know if there's a dead rat in the corner or something, but it don't smell right.
00:45:49
I'm out, You know what I mean? And I seriously think that's what it is.
00:45:53
Yes, Girardi being an ex catcher.
00:45:55
I mean, look, he knows he runs the market.
00:45:58
It's about where he wants to be comfortable.
00:46:01
Is he comfortable in this spot in this town doing what he does? There's no question on the skills.
00:46:07
I mean, in all reality does does he want? And I'm putting it out there.
00:46:14
Does he want to go to the L A Dodgers to play catcher to be batting number seven? Potentially? And when a world Siri's Yeah, possibly I don't know.
00:46:25
Or would he rather be baton like the guy that crushes it in Philadelphia and gets a championship like I run this team? This is my team, not me and seven other guys.
00:46:40
So and I think he's young enough.
00:46:42
Look, when he's thirty three, we might make a different decision right now.
00:46:47
I would love to see him make his mark and Philly, and I think it could still happen.
00:46:51
Yes, I sure hope so.
00:46:53
I dio but but one of those guys you all three guys alluded to, Was it Jimmy Butler effect? Okay, what? What? Segways us? Right into the seventy Sixers coaching search and one of the guys who falls off the list is Billy Donovan.
00:47:08
That guy.
00:47:09
I was all my list, man.
00:47:10
He was high on my list.
00:47:12
I like Billy Donovan.
00:47:13
I thought he was He would have been a really good fit here for the Philadelphia seventy Sixers.
00:47:18
It seems like they have a very narrow list from what I'm hearing, uh, you know, from Tyronn Lue? Some like D'Antoni, you know, and maybe a couple others.
00:47:29
I'm starting to hear the Alvin Gentry name being floated around a little bit, So really not sure what they're looking for.
00:47:36
But Dave come to you.
00:47:38
You know, obviously they want the hired Antonio a few years back.
00:47:42
Uh, you know, and it didn't happen.
00:47:45
You know, he goes and he and he works with Houston for a while now.
00:47:48
He's free again.
00:47:49
Uh, I'm not a D'Antoni guy.
00:47:51
Never been a D'Antoni guy.
00:47:52
I don't think he fits this team whatsoever.
00:47:56
I really don't understand it.
00:47:57
I'm a Jason Kidd guy.
00:47:59
I'm a Mark Jackson guy.
00:48:01
I'm a Nate McMillan guy.
00:48:02
I like those names.
00:48:04
I'm not a Tyronn Lue guy, Dave, if your top too.
00:48:08
But I ask you your top two and what's your opinion before you give your talk to What's your opinion of right now? Off what? The seventy six they're doing as far as their coaching search.
00:48:17
Uh, I mean, I honestly don't know what they're doing.
00:48:20
The guy that they're supposed to get just left.
00:48:23
That was That was I had my eggs all in that basket, and I don't even know what to tell you, because all the other guys that you just D'Antoni does.
00:48:32
You see you later, Joelle, and be than Ben Simmons, because that's not our system.
00:48:36
You know, um and and, well, Billy Donovan, he coached in college, right? We know what he did in Florida, and I think he would been better suited to take care of some of these young attitudes on this team and get them to play along.
00:48:53
Now, in my opinion, you're gonna have to go a different direction and getting older, possible ex player, um and and not Tyronn Lue.
00:49:05
Please. Not Tyronn Lue.
00:49:07
I don't.
00:49:08
Does anybody want him to be a Sixers coach? A lot of people do it, Not may.
00:49:14
Are they from Philly? Yes.
00:49:17
Well, there, you know what? Stop.
00:49:19
Stop watching the game.
00:49:22
Yep.
00:49:23
Stop adopting the game. Listen.
00:49:25
Thank you, Dave.
00:49:26
Get lost.
00:49:27
You know, so e I don't get it.
00:49:32
I don't get it.
00:49:33
E don't understand it either, man.
00:49:36
What? You know what? Just for the simple fact that it's gonna be embarrassing that even I don't care how good.
00:49:43
Tyronne Lewis, the biggest.
00:49:45
The biggest image of Tyronn Lue, he could have twelve rings is always gonna be getting stepped over by AI.
00:49:51
That's not who I want is my head coats snot who I want.
00:49:54
I'm sorry, I I think he was a puppet in Cleveland.
00:49:58
People could say what they want, right? And I don't want that here.
00:50:01
I want somebody to stand up.
00:50:02
I want somebody to be this one area.
00:50:04
I want somebody to teach these young guys how to play.
00:50:07
And I That's why I like Jason Kidd.
00:50:09
That's why I like Mark Jackson.
00:50:10
Nate McMillan got such a role deal in Indiana, which I don't understand why I like Nate to I.
00:50:17
I like these guys.
00:50:18
Even if you wanna bring it Dawn Staley or a Becky Hammon.
00:50:21
Give me something different, please.
00:50:24
With the Tyronn Lue.
00:50:25
I don't want to see Tyronn Lue.
00:50:27
Mike, I'm sorry I'm Mark Mark Jackson to me.
00:50:35
I've been talking about Mark Jackson for a while.
00:50:37
I don't know why he's not coaching another team.
00:50:41
There's something there.
00:50:43
He has a problem somewhere where there's a disconnect where Mark Jackson hasn't been back coaching another team, I don't know if it's that he should not be.
00:50:51
Oh, that's ESPN money.
00:50:53
Well, that's what I'm saying.
00:50:54
He chose not to.
00:50:56
For reasons he's getting paid out the wazoo by ESPN s.
00:51:01
So I mean, my my pipe dream of a coach would be somebody like Tim Duncan.
00:51:06
Andi, I know that's pie in the sky, but I just think that that would be an unbelievable opportunity for Sixers.
00:51:16
But other than that, Tony More, I've been pushing for Mark Jackson for a couple of years now.
00:51:21
James *** as a Bulls fan, he says he's happy to bills that he's happy Billy chose the Bulls shows the Bulls want to finally win because Billy wouldn't have signed with the Bulls. I agree.
00:51:31
Bulls have a nice young team out there.
00:51:33
They dio eso good for Billy bands.
00:51:35
It's a good spot for him, so I'm like, what's going on with the Sixers? man.
00:51:38
What are you thinking? I think you guys know where I'm at.
00:51:42
I mean, I've been on the Mark Jackson train you pretty much since day one.
00:51:46
I mean, I threw it out there early on and said the three guys that I really wanted the Sixers to take a look at We're Mark Jackson, David Fizdale, who is still available.
00:52:00
And the thing with David Fizdale is he knows how to take a point guard and the center and make them work together, which is what this team needs.
00:52:12
So I like Mark Jackson a lot.
00:52:15
I've been on that train since the beginning.
00:52:18
I like David Fizdale.
00:52:19
Former Kings coach Dave Yerger is still out there.
00:52:24
Um, I'm intrigued.
00:52:27
I'm interested.
00:52:28
I won't say intrigued, but I'm interested with Jason Kidd.
00:52:33
But the longer this goes on tone, the more on thinking that is there a possibility and this is total pie in the sky.
00:52:46
But is there a possibility that thes egomaniacal seventy Sixers owners are trying to sc**** up enough money toe lure Phil at a retirement? You imagine? Could you imagine e s? So would I.
00:53:09
So would I.
00:53:10
I mean, the Zen Master in Philadelphia.
00:53:13
Are you kidding? May.
00:53:14
That would be fantastic.
00:53:15
I don't care.
00:53:16
How old are you? Oh, I would love it.
00:53:18
I would love it.
00:53:20
I mean, that that would be the ultimate.
00:53:22
The ultimate.
00:53:23
You know what I think? Thes thes.
00:53:24
Owner's heir to dumb.
00:53:26
They even do something like that.
00:53:28
I think they are.
00:53:29
I think they are.
00:53:30
E don't disagree, e.
00:53:35
You have enough money.
00:53:37
But if they wanted to, they could, Yes, they do have enough money to sc**** together if they want to.
00:53:41
They could.
00:53:42
I just I just don't see them being smart enough to even go into that.
00:53:46
And I'll be honest with you.
00:53:47
I honestly think there's a huge power struggle going on with Elton Brain and these owners because I think when that came out to, I still say two weeks ago when the report came out by John Johnson W Pipe who? You know, I respect John.
00:54:01
John gets a lot of things right.
00:54:03
And Johnson from all his sources, tell him Tyronn Lue set to be the coach of the Philadelphia seventy six years, and all of a sudden it went away.
00:54:11
I think that was Elton Brains pick, and I think the owners like Whoa, whoa, that's not happening And all of a sudden, everything had to be retracted.
00:54:19
We haven't heard anything for, like two now.
00:54:23
It's interesting that you said that, though, because it was it was Tyronn Lue said to be the next head coach of the seventy Sixers.
00:54:30
And then all of a sudden it was Mike D'Antoni's job to lose.
00:54:35
And now we don't hear about D Antoni anymore, either.
00:54:37
So what the hell is going on there? There's there's There's something weird going on within this organization, and it's not good and needs to be fixed.
00:54:45
It does.
00:54:46
It's not good. It needs to be fixed.
00:54:48
And I'm gonna go right to John with this question, because what keeps coming up is how can the Sixers get better? How could they change? Because once they get a coach, they have to figure out and they're talking about.
00:54:59
Listen, I've seen some ridiculous trade scenarios.
00:55:02
I love CP three.
00:55:03
I'm a huge Chris Paul guy.
00:55:05
I I think he's done right now.
00:55:07
I dio I don't think he has much left.
00:55:09
He tries like hell, but I just don't think he's there and I'm not trading Matisse.
00:55:15
Stibel.
00:55:16
I'm not doing it so and he's been involved in every single one of these trade snares.
00:55:20
So, John, trade for CP three.
00:55:23
Does a trade like that help or hurt this team? Or do you even think it's possible? Or would you rather see him go after a guy like Drew holiday or buddy? Hell, it doesn't hurt the team, but I'm not giving up Teibel.
00:55:35
Uh, he's too young.
00:55:39
This may be one of those guys that you actually hit on in the draft recently.
00:55:44
I mean, look, yeah, there was the process and everything.
00:55:47
I'm not talking about that.
00:55:49
I'm talking about these other positional players that they've had for the past, you know, a couple of years? No, Absolutely.
00:55:56
You don't give him up.
00:55:57
And yes, I will take any three of them.
00:56:01
But I am not giving up.
00:56:02
Probably the best defensive guy on the team.
00:56:05
I agree.
00:56:06
I would not give up, Dave.
00:56:08
You feel the same way? Yeah.
00:56:10
I'm not giving up Bible for CP three.
00:56:12
I don't want CP three eight.
00:56:14
That's not your answer.
00:56:16
No, it's not.
00:56:17
I I know they're trying to do you know, and the CP three thing is what keeps bringing back to the D'Antoni thing.
00:56:24
So, you know, I think they're tied together.
00:56:26
I do.
00:56:27
I think you know. It's like Mike D'Antoni.
00:56:29
If it's his job to lose, goes in there and says, Why want Chris Paul and how the scenario start coming? About what? How do we get Chris Paul on this team? You know, how do we get D'Antoni and match them up with Chris Paul? Because I honestly think there's no other reason why this conversation even comes to fruition without Mike D'Antoni being a part of it one hundred percent.
00:56:48
So I'm like, Do you agree with that? I'm right on board with all you guys.
00:56:53
I have no no interest in CP three.
00:56:57
No interest in like D'Antoni.
00:56:59
What about if you get D'Antoni and the situation comes up? The scenario plays out that we get Antoni and the trade goes Ben Simmons for James Harden.
00:57:13
Wow, I'll tell you ready? I'll tell you this.
00:57:17
I would trade Joel for James Harden.
00:57:19
Oh, I'll keep that and trade Joel.
00:57:22
I'll do that yesterday.
00:57:24
Now that more of Santoni's.
00:57:28
So I'm just laughing at this because I'm thinking in my head it's a great question by Dave.
00:57:34
But if you think Joel and then can't play well together, you try putting hardened Joel together.
00:57:42
John, John, you're already shake your head bad.
00:57:45
You're shaking your head.
00:57:46
What's the head shake for? Did all those combinations gave me heartburn? I don't know.
00:57:54
None of it.
00:57:55
None of it sounds good.
00:57:56
Why can't we just got, like Craig Eglow to coach? Be a player on.
00:58:02
Just start shooting threes and coaching the game.
00:58:05
Rip it.
00:58:06
Do take his suit coat off.
00:58:08
Go in there with his uni and do his thing, man.
00:58:11
Let's get get, get! Get all the famous white guys that shot out from the from the court.
00:58:16
Get marked poison there.
00:58:18
Get cranky Dan Marley.
00:58:20
Thunder.
00:58:21
Dan, Get them all in there, man way.
00:58:28
Get Haji in there.
00:58:29
I Hey, look at all the three point championship shooters.
00:58:34
Bring one of them guys in from twenty years ago.
00:58:37
They could still shoot the rock.
00:58:38
Yeah, I'll tell you what.
00:58:41
It probably the best shooter we have because the pious hours absolutely sucks, so it doesn't matter.
00:58:46
We're paying him a ****load of money.
00:58:48
Craig Hodges.
00:58:50
One of three point contest.
00:58:51
There's a free agent.
00:58:53
He wasn't even wanna be him, and they invited him back.
00:58:56
Remember that? That was great.
00:58:59
They I'll tell you that was one of three point contest was was legit.
00:59:03
Man.
00:59:04
That was when you look for Remember those days? Man, You guys were all around the same age.
00:59:08
I'll tell you what.
00:59:09
I I could not wait for All Star weekend back then.
00:59:13
That was like the the slam dunk contest.
00:59:16
The three point contest was like, you know, I had sleepovers over that man.
00:59:20
I mean, that that was legit, man.
00:59:22
I still remember Dominique versus Jordan and the slam dunk contest like that was, like, iconic and and And they just played it again this past All Star weekend.
00:59:35
And you know, having my kids watch it too.
00:59:38
It's like, Wow, e I actually take those when they are tay, I take those e i DVR did.
00:59:55
Whenever I saw him on, they had dunk, dunk, dunk, like all the and it was like it was right in that time frame and I take that I couldn't get any kid to watch the **** things with I a trivia question for you guys.
01:00:08
Oh, a new one. Yeah.
01:00:11
So? So of this of this modern era of dunk contest who won the first n ba slam dunk contest as we know it.
01:00:24
Mm. Dr.
01:00:25
J? No.
01:00:27
Dr.
01:00:28
J was defeated in the finals by this person.
01:00:32
Yes, they're Ugo.
01:00:35
Awesome job, boys.
01:00:37
Weird.
01:00:39
Random question.
01:00:41
Wait.
01:00:43
The last Abe a slam dunk contest.
01:00:47
Dr.
01:00:48
J was defeated by David Thompson on the first NBA Slam dunk contest.
01:00:53
Dr.
01:00:54
J was defeated by Larry Needs Doctor hated it on the chin.
01:01:00
I'll tell you I remember.
01:01:05
You know, it's not even ***uely.
01:01:07
I remember vividly.
01:01:08
Something that the three point contests with, Like Kenny Skywalker, Cedric Ceballos with the blindfold Dee Brown pumping up the Reebok pumps.
01:01:18
Like, you know, it's amazing what you remember.
01:01:22
Because, listen, I mean, that was just That was part of our game back then. Man.
01:01:27
Fun.
01:01:28
Go back to the one that was in way back to back.
01:01:33
That was in my hey, coming from Pittsburgh.
01:01:36
You have no teams.
01:01:38
The Hawks were my dream man way.
01:01:45
Pittsburgh places e had so many e Pittsburgh e What? I don't even think I watched that movie for until twenty years after it came on.
01:02:03
E nice.
01:02:06
I tell you what, did Wood shop in art class? Back in the day, it was the Hawks.
01:02:12
It was the Hawks All about my to that was that was Lenny Wilkins, right? Lenny Wilkens was the coach.
01:02:20
Yeah, the whole of Famer.
01:02:23
Hall of Famer.
01:02:24
There's another bring him out of Well, we've got to rise hymn for the dead.
01:02:27
But bring him retirement, right? I thought the wildest thing in a dunk contest that I ever at least that I could remember seeing was all six foot eleven of Tom Chambers going up and like his chest was at the rim when he threw it down.
01:02:46
And I'm like, Oh, that was scary, too, because that was that was back in the day where the shorts were so small his balls were probably hanging out of his shorts when he jumped up.
01:02:55
It's a big boy with Yeah, it's a ton of hops.
01:02:59
You're right.
01:03:00
Trunk hanging down with the top of the net.
01:03:02
So e shopping on that.
01:03:11
That's fried E Here you listen.
01:03:14
Hey, real fast.
01:03:15
When we get out of here, you know, Mike, You brought it up last week.
01:03:18
A little fancy recap.
01:03:19
And, you know, we all play.
01:03:20
We all play fantasy.
01:03:22
We all have some fun.
01:03:23
And I'll tell you, a week to week two was some some guys who just absolutely fell off a cliff.
01:03:29
Some guys who who really were a shock to me, Uh, me personally, one of my my lowest point that I was ninety. Minds.
01:03:37
Now he, you know, can't catch Heinz.
01:03:39
All of a sudden, he gets one catch, you know? You know, I talked him up, and all of a sudden he gets eight catches, one which I don't know what the hell happened to him, and then you got a guy.
01:03:48
I mean, me and John talked off air James Robinson, who you know, for the Jacksonville Jaguars, who who all of a sudden man just looks like he's legit.
01:03:57
He's absolutely Jet could be serviceable.
01:03:59
So Hey, Mike, what about you? Who was your Who was your number one guy this weekend and And who was your number one bus? Uh, well, my number one bust is easy in both the league's that.
01:04:11
I play it.
01:04:12
Say Kwan Barclay, two point eight points before before leaving with a season ending injury.
01:04:19
Um, yeah, and that's that's gonna hurt me in two separate leagues, but one league.
01:04:26
I had a very, very strong Thursday night showing from Nick Chubb.
01:04:32
Unfortunately, it was not enough because I did wind up getting pounded in that league.
01:04:38
Thea Other league.
01:04:41
I got huge performances out of Stefon Diggs and Darren Waller, but my opponent on Monday night had Josh Jacobs.
01:04:54
So I was leading by literally point one five of a point until Oakland got the ball back with the lead and decided to run the clock out and Josh Jacobs being the bell Cal bat put it away and I wound up losing by, like, two point five points.
01:05:13
That's her piece right there.
01:05:14
Hey, John, remember Stefon Diggs number? I said he was gonna be a top seven receiver.
01:05:20
I'm just I'm just saying member, everybody e Everybody said Tony was crazy.
01:05:26
Jakes all crazy.
01:05:28
E If I got stuff on digs, I'm trading them like a hot cake.
01:05:33
Uh, he's selling high selling.
01:05:37
Hi.
01:05:38
How about you, John? How's your weekend? Go? We can't like good.
01:05:41
Let me just finish that by Josh Allen is not gonna be a perennial three hundred yard or a separate.
01:05:49
I don't know what you call seven hundred and twenty nine yards to God.
01:05:53
He will not be a weekly three hundred yard passer.
01:05:58
So that's why I'm saying sell on digs.
01:06:01
So far, so good.
01:06:03
Look, my, my big thing, I will tell you.
01:06:06
Probably for the first time in at least twenty years, I started to running backs from the same **** team.
01:06:16
I did not want to start Melvin Gordon against the Parc de I had left Bell out on IR.
01:06:26
So I'm saying like you're running thin and I said, You know what? I would rather limit my floor and capped my ceiling by going with Chavan Hunt.
01:06:35
Wow, one If one does good other one won't if the other one does good.
01:06:42
Vice versa.
01:06:43
And it just so happened that they racked up two hundred plus yards on the ground.
01:06:48
Both got touchdowns, got me my carry bonus.
01:06:51
So props props to the coach on on starting to Cleveland Brown running back with you again for the history of my fantasy career.
01:07:03
Props to Coker.
01:07:04
I love it. I love it.
01:07:06
What about you, Dave? What do you want me to tell you? The O.
01:07:15
We want this.
01:07:16
I want this week.
01:07:17
But McCaffrey's hurt.
01:07:19
Andi left Bell so hurt.
01:07:21
So I got to have my top three picks out Kareem Hunt.
01:07:26
I do have.
01:07:27
And he had a big day for me.
01:07:29
De hop.
01:07:31
I mean, he's killing it for me.
01:07:34
Um, Drew Brees is my quarterback.
01:07:38
Darren Waller is my tight end.
01:07:40
Had a nice Had a nice day.
01:07:42
So I got to figure out I think I just picked up where I heard that Coleman was picked up by the Giants for Barkley Freeman, Friedrich Von Freeman.
01:07:55
So we put in for free agency on him.
01:07:58
I'm in need of a running back right now because my two top guys are hurt.
01:08:04
I do have Cream Hunt and John, What is your opinion on this one? I did pick up DeAndre swift to for Detroit.
01:08:11
The rookie.
01:08:13
Hey, as long as he a zoo, always you can catch the ball.
01:08:15
He might be okay.
01:08:19
You keep swift, but you got McCaffrey.
01:08:23
You need Mike Davis, number one.
01:08:26
You know, Mike Davis has got to be number one But you don't know what to expect from like Davis, man.
01:08:30
He's gonna get the volume.
01:08:31
He's gonna get the volume that z last week.
01:08:36
What's that? Hey, Had enough catches like catches.
01:08:40
He is going to get the volume.
01:08:42
He is the guy.
01:08:43
It is a short lived three week, you know? Yes, he's a number two running back for three weeks.
01:08:51
Then he relegates to a number five running back on fantasy teams.
01:08:55
Yeah, I can.
01:08:57
Yeah, I believe that.
01:08:58
So wait, eso before we go to that, did anybody got another Guess? Because we'll throw this trivia question out there one more time before we get out of here, because I obviously have the answer.
01:09:11
So, David, you gotta guess.
01:09:13
You look like I mean, you said McNabb was close, so I'm gonna go with Westbrook.
01:09:17
Uh, no, That would be wrong.
01:09:20
John, do you have? Do you have another guest? Mike, do you have another guest? No, No, Michael Vick.
01:09:29
I'm going with Duce Staley, man.
01:09:31
No Deuce, No Deuce.
01:09:33
I can't believe you guys didn't mention the man.
01:09:37
What's that say? Nope.
01:09:41
And it's not shady.
01:09:42
And Rick Lorenzo? It's not Westbrook.
01:09:44
It is.
01:09:45
Randall Cunningham ran a six point six point four yards per rush.
01:09:55
Randall Cunningham.
01:09:57
It's funny because nobody would have thought that that's That's a funny thought part.
01:10:01
So, you know, because everybody's thinking all these names that you don't you just don't put it together.
01:10:05
It's funny, but yeah, Randall Cunningham.
01:10:07
So that was good.
01:10:08
That was a good trivia question.
01:10:09
I like that. That's dumped a lot of people.
01:10:11
The ultimate weapon.
01:10:13
Yes.
01:10:14
Yeah.
01:10:15
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shoes.
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And if he has what has happened there did.
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My purpose on this podcast is to cool down the hotheads of Philadelphia and just bring a little bit of grounding.
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So I don't think any of you guys air wrong.
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Yes, then had these issues.
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When you're young and you feel like you're invincible and you can get out of every tackle and you could make every play because that's what you've done all your life until you get to the NFL, it's a wake up call.
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Look, we were not what, eighteen months, twelve months away from saying that whence is an M v p N F L M v p candidate because of what he did and, you know, abbreviated seasons.
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And it was what was the injury.
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But when he played, it was this.
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Now, all of a sudden it's Oh, it's the worst thing.
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Look, a lot of things he's doing is teachable.
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How Maney passes, does he throw out of bounds? Like what? You know when other quarterbacks will just chuck it? No.
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What? I'm not gonna take the snack, The sack, The smart thing to do.
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Throw it out of bones.
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The smart thing to Dio is this.
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The smart thing to do is that he's not doing.
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He's young and inexperienced and feels that he can do everything.
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And that's his biggest downfall right now.
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Listen, Tony, you compared Pittsburgh's Ben Roethlisberger when has named me two running backs at Rothenburg? Roethlisberger's had the receivers that he had in the last couple of years, arguably the best receiver in the league.
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Carson Wentz has never had these weapons.
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All due respect, Andrew saying it's not about the weapons it absolutely has to do with playmakers on this team has to do with that.
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I disagree.
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I dio Listen, here's my thing and and again, like this before, went on there and I told like my line of thinking drastically changed because I sat there in week two and I watched guys like Justin Herbert, who was a rookie.
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Okay, who found out he was starting a game five minutes before game time and threw for three hundred and twelve yards a touchdown in the pic with okay, he has Keenan Allen.
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I get that. That's great.
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Okay, But my my point is he was able to play well.
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Okay, Joe Burrow is able to play well.
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Jeff Freaking Driscoll came into a game for Denver, passed for two hundred fifty six yards and a touchdown, and they almost be Pittsburgh Steelers on the road.
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Okay? They almost did it.
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And car tell.
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What do all of them have in common? Explain to me.
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What do they all have to come? Every one of them has in common a running game that can keep you ask the questions. And you finished.
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Okay.
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What do you mean? You know Ben Gordon.
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So we don't have mall Sanders now? Mall.
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Sanders sucks.
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No, no, I'm not saying my why.
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Where's the money game? Did they? How much did they utilize him? Four point nine yards a carry, one hundred six yards.
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Russian, Russian.
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How many times did you get the ball? How many times you get the ball? Did you get twenty five? Yeah, he They ran the ball twenty seven times, twenty times a mile. Sanders.
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It's five times with Boston, Scott and two times with Corey Clement.
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So there's your fricking running game.
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Okay.
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On an offensive line that actually can pass block, Carson got sect.
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How many times zero gets the Rams zero Lane.
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Johnson was the number two ranked offensive tackle in Week two, but Carson doesn't have weapons.
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Dallas, Qatar Zach Ertz.
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I'll take any two of them over any Thio.
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It's not a question about weapons, it's not a e.
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I don't think it's not to me.
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It's not weapons.
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What absolutely everything.
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It's weapons.
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That's that's ridiculous.
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That's not Whiteside didn't catch the touchdown pass with D. K. Metcalf.
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Have caught that ball.
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He shouldn't hold on.
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Hold on because, of course, and wet weather threw the ball when he was supposed to, JJ would have a chance to catch the ball.
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J. J went away from the football.
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The kids good enough, e think This is a guy who was so shell shocked at what happened to him in Washington that he may have been seeing ghosts on Sunday.
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Who knows? But when you're pulling out, you know Driscoll and Herbert these Air guys that have basically they're playing with house money because they're not expected to wait.
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They go out there and they sling it all over the place on if they throw five interceptions.
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So what? Nathan Peterman gets a guaranteed contract in the NFL Carson is expected to win, and that that's a difference.
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Mike, I completely agree with you.
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Yes, those guys, they have nothing to lose.
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Look, I'm all right.
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I got the light shining on me.
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I'm gonna g o like, you know? I mean, there's not the pressure of an entire city a team.
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Uh, you know, it hasn't been going well.
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I mean, that's that's a lot of pressure, but, I mean, I just want to speak for the Pittsburgh brass.
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If you guys are interested in trading Carson Wentz, I do believe the Steel City is gonna be looking for a quarterback, Senator.
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See that? That's great, because you here's the thing.
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Like e think.
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I think John, you unintentionally stumbled onto something because I have friends, acquaintances, contacts, social media followers, whatever their fans of other teams that, like they tell me that they would take Carson Wentz in a second.
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So, Tom, back to your point, though, when you say is Jalen hurts the right pick, Well, I will tell you he's absolutely the wrong pick in that spot because now guess what? Carson's looking over his shoulder when he probably shouldn't have to be stopped man.
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Come on.
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So when there arrives with the boy was looking over his shoulder.
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You know, Bridgewater, you could have got this guy.
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You could have guys.
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In fact, the fact of the matter resist, they probably could have gotten Jalen hurts two rounds later on Drafted one of the seventy five linebackers.
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It was available to them in round two, and maybe they'd be able to stop the run a little bit.
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And you know what? You know what? I believe that I did until yesterday.
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And so I start to think about this and think about this theory fellow seriously on.
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What's up, James? It's actually heat race.
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You know, I get heat radio a lot, but it's actually heat ratio.
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What's up, buddy? Thanks for joining in.
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But listen, all I'm gonna say is this is pure brilliance by Doug Peterson, Howie Roseman.
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And here is why? Because now, now they saved their jobs way.
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Alabama.
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A quarterback you excel in the NFL way re****s the headphones and relax.
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All right? Just hold on.
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Okay.
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At the end of the day, listen, At the end of the day, I don't know what Jalen Hurts is going to be in the NFL with his Montedio.
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Understand? Okay, I understand that.
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But I'm gonna tell you one thing that if the Eagles start off two and four, that Jalen Hurts is gonna start.
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And I'm gonna tell you something right now.
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If Jalen hurts starts, Carson is never getting his job back.
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It's my I'm telling you that, right? I will go on record to say that right now.
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If Jalen hurts, you know why I'm like, I hear Honestly, this is why? Because I think that Doug Peterson had dreams about offense he could formulate around. Jalen hurts.
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I think right now he's saying in the back of his mind, I'm good.
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If Carson doesn't work out, I say, Listen, that's why drafted Jalen hurts because I wasn't sure.
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That's why drafted down, right? Listen, I now I'm gonna play twenty eight million reasons why they try to think.
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But listen, that doesn't mean anything in NFL.
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Let's think about something real here, real face.
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Listen to this clip, and I'll tell you what I think about this, Okay? What? I'm reading this and you guys think what you are.
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Hey, Doug, You guys have sort of fallen into, you know, a bit of a bit of the whole the last three seasons.
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Now, I'm just curious, you know, as the head coach, Um, like, mentally, is it a little bit exhausting for you, too? Uh, you have to go through this again and, you know, deal with with all of our questions as well, uh, dealing with your questions. Air exhausting.
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That's what's exhausting.
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Handling the wins and losses.
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Um, you know, that's a little bit easier than handling your questions, but no, listen, obviously we get into this.
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This is a sport that I love.
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This is a sport I loved.
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I love to play it.
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And now I love to coach it.
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And, you know, obviously we we get into this business toe win, right? And obviously I've been I've been hired here, Thio win championships and to win games.
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And so here's what I want to say and I'll let you guys talk.
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I've been here.
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I've been hired the win games right to me, that is the opening to say, Listen, when I decided to put Jalen hurts into the lineup, I'm going to say I'm trying to save my job because I'm saying my job.
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If Carson looks like he doesn't and does not progress it all and continues down this path and I don't make a change, I'm gonna lose my job.
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So right now he's saying right there.
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So when that question comes to him seven weeks from now, if Jalen Hurd to start and say, Hey, listen, I need the win football games I have a job to do.
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I have to put this team in the best position to win.
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Dave, I'm gonna go right to you and my completely off base.
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Or what do you think? I don't think Doug Peterson wanted the draft.
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Jalen hurts.
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You think that Doug Peterson wanted him on the dean? I would say absolutely.
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Doug Peterson is a quarterback, right? He loves Carson Wentz.
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He doesn't wanna have Carson went the answer.
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Carson Wednesday, You got this guy looking over your shoulder.
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He never wanted that.
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I will guarantee you any amount of money that I have that Doug Peterson did not want.
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Jalen hurts at the second pick.
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Maybe the six picks seventh pick whatever, but I think you're completely off base and I would never on leeway.
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Jalen Hurts, sees the field for the Eagles as quarterback is.
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If Carson Wentz breaks his leg again, where something else happens home where he can't play, there is no way that he has taken Carson's job a chance to win.
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Who gets the best chance to win? E.
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I could tell you right now right now is still Carson Wentz.
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But if he continues down this, listen, I'm telling you what man the Cincinnati game is gonna be. No joke.
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If people are taking this game lightly, they're out of their mind.
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They're out of their mind on.
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I'll tell you what if the Eagles start off out and three, if they start, I went three.
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They could easily in this next stretch go to and seven.
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Yeah, right.
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And you're gonna tell me that Carson still gonna be playing two and seven.
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I think they definitely plays.
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And I think also, Jeffrey Lori should be firing Howie Roseman, his personal people, and Jim Schwartz right next to it.
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Mike went nuts in the beginning of this thing.
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Talking about Shorty given up touchdown.
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I'll defend them.
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The Washington game.
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They gave up touchdowns in the beginning of the game because caution threw interceptions.
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Last week's game he let he let that kid with no feet stand in the pocket.
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Didn't blitz.
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Didn't cause pressure.
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He Swiss Jesus.
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Jared Goff did, and Short sat there and took it on the chin the whole day.
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We're gonna get to that day because I got a clip for you about Mr Schwartz.
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Take it on the chin.
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Alright, we're gonna get like that.
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But John, like, honestly, real quick before you go to job.
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I just want to touch on one thing that Dave said real quick.
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But when when Dave asked, Who gives you the best chance toe win? I am in full agreement that it's Carson to your point.
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Why Jalen won't play because the NFC East ISS so mediocre that nine and seven is probably going toe win you the division again.
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And if you don't like you won't see.
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Jalen hurts until the Eagles lose eight nine, ten games.
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Now, does that happen? Could that could that happen? Sure, anything could happen.
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It's flip in twenty twenty, right? E mean, I honestly think that until they are out of playoff contention, you got no shot at Sealand dancin Jalen, so we gotta get some comments.
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So we got Andrew checking in.
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Talking about Carson is a grown man.
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Suck it up and play football.
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I agree.
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I got Paul checking in, who agrees with May, and Roger is playing fine.
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And so they picked his heir apparent, right? So he listen, he's not worried about Mr Love, right? He's not worried about that.
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Mike texting.
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You needed depth in places where the back.
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I agree with that one hundred percent.
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Patrick Patrick.
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We were sitting there, right? I mean, the linebackers were sitting there right there for us in a position of need.
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I get it.
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I understand that James Eagles don't know how to draft.
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I think we all know that course and wets behind the forty Niners.
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Old line equals Super Bowl chains.
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Pump the brakes a little bit.
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I don't know about that, Rick.
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My boy Rick Second and Rick went has his faults.
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But if you can't be successful, whence then the coach is the problem that start real problem.
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That's Brown problem, right? And and listen, Robert checks it again.
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I'll tell you why I went to the next member of the Heat ratio.
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We got major problems on this show, major, because with the amount of profanity might just use, and with Carson being a religious type man, Mike's in trouble is going to hell.
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But, John, let's talk about S o much.
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Trust me.
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Uh, so we'll be there there, brother.
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But John, seriously.
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All listen, I know Mike checking out his comment.
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Everybody see him and Dave or not.
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And with the Wendt has his fault.
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You can't be successful with Went to the coaches. The problem.
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Listen, I still think we have a dog Peterson problem, But I also think we have a Carson Wentz problem.
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I don't know, man.
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You are the voice of reason here Before we move on the next question let me hear you elaborate.
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Your last saving grace to bring us all together here. Done.
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I had, like, eighty bazillion comments.
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Look, Jalen hurts can come in to spell whence if he misses a game or two.
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Maybe he's right.
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You ride the hot hand, Jalen hurts.
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You wanna talk about the weapons of Carson Wentz doesn't have what? Jalen hurts a quarterback and see Now then you can talk about the weapons that he doesn't have Carson.
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Wentz makes his way.
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He makes Greg Ward.
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Looks like he's a Pro Bowler.
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Okay, so let's just and he's off the practice squad, so there's a big difference in there.
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Can Jalen hurts? Come in and relief and throw a little ****e like a little Ah, poor passing Michael Vick? Yes, possibly.
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He is not taking Carson's job.
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Carson has the jitters or the sheikhs or the I need to figure out that I'm not a young chick anymore, and I gotta be smarter with myself.
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Look, Roethlisberger was in motorcycle accidents, thinking he could beat the world.
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I mean, it took him, you know, five missed aches.
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He probably would have got suspended for in today's NFL, but it took him not time to at least mature.
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And he's matured to a level where he can be an effective NFL quarterback.
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And I'll tell you what, half a Carson Wentz, his issues or just decision making, like just he's just not doing it.
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So there might not be separation with the receivers, but he should still be able to swing a ball in there tight, and if he can't do it, then send them to Pittsburgh.
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That's a That's it.
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I like that.
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That's a good way to segue right here, Because listen, we're not gonna fix this Problem is going to continue to go on, but it definitely definitely is going toe have legs, and we're gonna continue to talk about it.
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What? I have to answer the word draft came up a lot.
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Okay? And I have to ask you guys looking at this did Chip Kelly actually have the best Eagles draft after all? I mean, remember Lane Johnson? Zach Ertz.
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Those two picks are pretty **** good.
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You know, when you look at, you know, he was the guy who booted hell we into the corner of the Nova care center.
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Right? Hey, listen, obviously the Malcolm Smith, uh, you know, draft with that was a little bad, right? But still Lane Johnson, Zach Ertz.
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I think they're probably the best, aren't they? They? Yeah, absolutely.
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Well, I mean, that was a twenty twenty thirteen draft, and, you know, I like the positions that he went, except for the fourth round.
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So the first two picks, he said Lane Johnson was the fourth overall.
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Zach Ertz came in the second round of the thirty fifth pick overall.
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Bennie Logan was next at defensive tackle.
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Forgot. Yeah, right. Forgot on.
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And then Matt Barkley was your fourth round at quarterback, right? So? So Barkley has actually done some things in the NFL, though.
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He so he's stuck around for a little bit.
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Uh, then you had your d back.
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He took Earl Wolf, and then he took another defensive end, and then he took another D back, and then he took another defensive end.
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So the talk about, like, your recipe here of what to do, I think the positions that he had and play here, I like what he did.
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Obviously, that draft because, you know, he addressed offensive line and defensive line and a couple D backs in between.
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And look at our holes that we need. We have now.
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You know, eso.
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I mean, it was a really it was a pretty good draft, Those two.
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And you definitely hit on possible Hall of Famers, right? Yeah.
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I mean, listen, way talk about that.
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The two thousand seventeen draft being completely trash, right? I mean, it was basically what we didn't even need to show up that year.
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obviously because it was terrible, but yeah, I mean, Mike, you know, to think about that.
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I mean, that's a pretty good **** draft from Chip Kelly.
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He was not here right now, you know.
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It absolutely is.
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It was.
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It's odd, though, because you referenced the Marcus Smith pick and I said, Malcolm Smith, I know who you're meant, though, and it's It's just it's weird because Chip had this thing where anybody who had played quarterback at one time was on his radar because he felt like they had the intelligence and they got it.
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I mean, even Lane Johnson at one point was a quarterback.
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And, um, I think that there are certain merits to that when you talk about because the guys that he drafted I mean, other than Marcus Smith, he did draft fairly well.
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Um, I have to believe that Marcus Smith and Danny Watkins were probably the two biggest busts his team has ever drafted.
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John Harris, John Harris? John Harris has to be.
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Oh, he's probably up there, too.
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It's funny, though, how people rip on like Mike Mamula.
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But if you look at Manolas numbers compared to some of these other guys.
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It's not even close.
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Mike Mammals showed up every week.
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He did? Yeah, that is true.
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That is that one.
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Yeah, I get Chip.
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All the credit in the world he was.
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He was a better drafter and a better offensive scheme guy.
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I think that a lot of people give him credit for.
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It's just a lot of the weird nuance kind of stuff that rubbed people the wrong way, and it's It followed him toe followed him to San Francisco, and now it's followed him to U.
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C L. A egotistical.
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That's what it was.
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It was absolutely one hundred percent.
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John, What's up, buddy? We would say, No, you can't.
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You can't consistently have bad draft years.
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You can have a bad draft year.
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You know what I mean? Like you hit.
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That's fine.
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Things don't necessarily pan on you.
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Maybe get a guy, but you can't go to straight years without getting any guys.
00:21:24
Any guys pan on.
00:21:25
I mean twenty.
00:21:26
What was it? Twenty fourteen and twenty fifteen? There really wasn't much there like Nelson Agler, who's not even on the team.
00:21:35
It couldn't have been that good, you know.
00:21:38
Yeah, but But Nelson was, Ah, huge part of two thousand seventeen.
00:21:43
Huge part.
00:21:45
I know you have.
00:21:47
You have Thio say that he was on the team for how many years and he had a good season that one year.
00:21:54
So, yes, if you want to believe that it was him and the skill.
00:21:58
Yeah, I'm not saying that I would trade him.
00:22:00
Look, if it's give me this guy and he gets me a Super Bowl, I'm all in no doubt.
00:22:05
But you can't tell me that that guy got you the Super Bowl.
00:22:09
That Philadelphia was running him out of town going into the season.
00:22:15
No, because it was the biggest turd in Philadelphia.
00:22:20
Get in there.
00:22:21
So I'm just saying and he have one season. Don't act.
00:22:25
I'm just saying that that's that's publishing a turn for your gem from that draft class.
00:22:30
Hey, Tom, can I touch on something, Dave? Just real quick? Just say so.
00:22:35
John, You make the point about Avelar and the turd and being run out of town, and we were talking earlier about Carson's quote unquote regression.
00:22:44
Can we talk about the fact that he literally put game winning touchdowns in Nelson's hands twice last year and they were dropped.
00:22:55
He also put game winning touchdowns in God Hurts and J.
00:23:00
Jaws Hands in the same game last year.
00:23:03
E mean, but it is.
00:23:06
But it's not in the sense that when we're talking about guys like Angle are now and I'm not even, I'm not even not even going back to Carson.
00:23:15
Hear what I'm saying is it? We're talking about guys like angle are and and eventually we're gonna wind up having the same discussion on JJ.
00:23:22
All it is like angle are, you know, he goes to Las Vegas and people are crowning them.
00:23:31
In two games, he's two for forty two, but people were crowding him because he caught a touchdown pass that any rookie wide receiver would have caught.
00:23:40
Did anybody see Amar E.
00:23:42
Cooper's catch? Yes, I did see a Mark Cooper sketch man.
00:23:46
He would look good in the Eagles helmet.
00:23:48
You don't think he would help our corner try? They try.
00:23:52
They did not try.
00:23:54
Listen, they tried to sign him as a free agent way.
00:23:58
I listen.
00:23:59
We could sit here and talk about drop balls.
00:24:03
We could sit here and talk about bad routes we could hear talk about everything.
00:24:06
But every quarterback deals with that.
00:24:07
At the end of the day, my final point is the end of the day when you are paid one hundred and forty.
00:24:13
One hundred and fifty hundred sixty. Whatever.
00:24:15
It is million dollars.
00:24:16
Okay.
00:24:17
You are paid to be the guy you were paid to jump through every friggin obstacle in front of you.
00:24:22
That's what you're paid to.
00:24:23
Dio. Listen, Russell Wilson.
00:24:25
Before he had a tremendous class of receivers.
00:24:28
He was made to go through obstacles and be the guy thought oven McNabb before he got thio was made to be the guy, right? They're made to be.
00:24:37
This is your This is your choice.
00:24:39
You want to get paid.
00:24:40
Patrick Mahomes has a ton of weapons.
00:24:42
I understand that, but Patrick Mahomes just paid to be the guy.
00:24:45
Is anybody going to question Patrick Mahomes, right? No.
00:24:49
You know why? He's not gonna give him a reason to question.
00:24:51
He's gonna make **** happen that she's gonna do.
00:24:53
And that's what Carson not doing right now. Maybe Carson.
00:24:56
I said this last week.
00:24:57
It just comes down to this guys.
00:24:59
Maybe Carson's just not that guy.
00:25:01
Maybe Carson does need to supporting cast.
00:25:03
Carson can't do it on his own.
00:25:05
And in my opinion, that's a problem, especially when you paid him to play like that.
00:25:11
Russell will be Russell.
00:25:13
Wilson had a tremendous running game for years and an unbelievable defense.
00:25:19
And who was the other quarterback? You said you said a couple, but it was one before Russell Wilson.
00:25:24
Patrick Mahomes.
00:25:26
His offense is unbelievable.
00:25:28
That is another one.
00:25:30
There's another one.
00:25:31
There's another one that you said, Who else would I say? I don't even know house that Prescott, with all his weapons and everything else that he's got.
00:25:40
How how would you rate him as a quarterback compared to Carson Wentz? Who's better right now? It's that Prescott E.
00:25:49
Prescott threw for forty nine hundred two yards last year, lining up for the evil yards multiple times.
00:25:54
So lining up for the Eagles next week.
00:25:56
You would rather have that press conference right now? Yes, yes.
00:26:00
Crazy.
00:26:01
Yes, right now. Absolutely.
00:26:03
I'd say you're talking if you're talking a week Three. Yes.
00:26:09
I want that Prescott.
00:26:10
Thank you.
00:26:11
When in an eagle's uniforms over Carson? Yes.
00:26:15
No way.
00:26:16
I I want to know when Carson Wentz is going to realize what his mistakes have been in the past two weeks and fixed him there.
00:26:26
His mistakes? Look, I'm not saying the game plans the greatest by any means, but what I'm saying is he needs to fix his mistakes by trying to do too much.
00:26:37
I like it.
00:26:38
I like it.
00:26:39
And before we end the Eagles like I got little trivia by a little Eagles trivia right now, See if I could stump the bull.
00:26:43
You're stumped the audience here Little Eagles trivia right now.
00:26:47
And this will be a sponsor segment in the next couple weeks.
00:26:50
Off Eagles players with over four hundred yards attempts.
00:26:54
Who has the best yards per rush? Average off all time Philadelphia Eagles.
00:27:00
Does anybody have a gas? Dave, Do you have a guess? Timmy Brown? No, John.
00:27:08
Do you have a guess? Uh, I'm gonna go. Ricky Waters.
00:27:13
No, Mike.
00:27:15
Do you have Are you the one hundred millionaire Donovan McNabb? No.
00:27:22
Close.
00:27:24
Close.
00:27:26
I'm gonna leave it go for a little bit.
00:27:27
I would leave you go and see if any of any of the audience.
00:27:30
Because people probably Google now but But I don't even know if you could Google this, to be honest with you, because you have to know what to Google.
00:27:38
So I'm curious to see if if somebody come up with this, So we're gonna come back to this, but none of us got the right answer.
00:27:44
Can we have a second? Can we have a second way? Have a side.
00:27:48
Well, let's move on to a little Toto, a little fillies action.
00:27:52
And then we'll move back to the Eagles trivia.
00:27:54
But before we go to the Eagles won last year in the NFL, I wanna ask you guys how Maney watched the game last night because again, it just it just basically cemented my love for Jon Gruden.
00:28:08
And honestly, I I can't say enough.
00:28:12
I wish he was the Eagles head coach.
00:28:13
I I clamor for him, but he told me I was wrong This.
00:28:16
Now I just think God loves the game, man.
00:28:18
He loves the game.
00:28:19
And I don't know if you guys seen the little love fest between him and Mike Mayock at the end of the game, which was fantastic.
00:28:25
Just, you know, just show to kind of Philly guys that's been here and it just hugging it out with the man love on the field cause they have to passion.
00:28:33
They want to make this team successful.
00:28:35
So I just think it was great.
00:28:37
I loved watching that game last night.
00:28:39
I I loved watching him adjust and basically taking what the defense gave him and make it Darren Waller focal point something that Doug doesn't know how to dio.
00:28:48
But we're going to get back to this trivia question a little bit.
00:28:52
But again, as we wanna air the Phillies playoff hopes all but gone.
00:28:57
Okay, get swept.
00:28:59
Okay.
00:29:00
And I have to ask before we get to the field, let me ask you this.
00:29:04
Okay, so this is kind of goes to the same guidelines as the Philadelphia Eagles because we're talking about who's the blame is a Carson Wentz.
00:29:12
Is it Doug Peterson? I mean, you know, or is it Howie Roseman? So when you look at this Phillies team and a lot of people have been questioning certain things that Joe Girardi does, which I think is ridiculous because, you know, listen, you got it.
00:29:25
Joe Girardi was handed this team.
00:29:26
He made a couple moves, you know, with Dede and things of that nature.
00:29:30
But this, you know, this wasn't assembled by Joe Girardi.
00:29:33
I think Joe Girardi was doing his best to keep it intact.
00:29:37
So I do not blame this on Joe whatsoever.
00:29:39
So do you play this war, Klentak, Or you may be playing this war on the players themselves.
00:29:45
You know, specifically the guys in the bullpen That seems like they forgot how to pitch.
00:29:49
And guys like Aaron Nola, who once again does not show up when we need him.
00:29:55
So you know what, John? I haven't started with you. First.
00:29:59
Let me go right to John on this.
00:30:00
I owe you. Shake your head a little bit.
00:30:02
What do you think about this? Ultimate collapse? John, this is a Girardi e.
00:30:07
I agree.
00:30:08
You know, I we talked a little bit off air about other things, and it was It was about chasing stats.
00:30:17
And I'm not saying I mean, you have guys that you bring in and you think they're gonna be They're gonna be the savior of the bullpen.
00:30:25
I mean, they brought in what? Three guys work, right? Workmen.
00:30:28
They brought in Phelps.
00:30:29
They brought in.
00:30:31
Who was the third guy? There was another guy brought in.
00:30:34
Yeah, memory.
00:30:35
Right.
00:30:36
So you bring these guys in.
00:30:38
I mean, they reliever some years, man, they don't have a four e r a.
00:30:43
The next year they have a one e r a.
00:30:46
Then maybe they have another one, and then they go back up to three and a half.
00:30:50
Look, they tried making the right moves.
00:30:53
They thought they made the right moves the bullpen got here.
00:30:56
I don't know if there's something in the Gatorade jug back in the bullpen or what's going on, but the bullpens a problem.
00:31:05
I mean, we kind of knew what the what the rotation was gonna be were pretty cool.
00:31:10
Look, even know a blow in this one or whatever.
00:31:13
We know what no one's gonna be.
00:31:15
We were pretty confident that Wheeler was a good signing.
00:31:19
There is airy ETA, which nobody really likes better than the three more like a four in questions.
00:31:26
So it's kind of what we thought it was.
00:31:28
It was just we hope that when they brought in that relief pitching help, that it actually would have been help.
00:31:35
And it was just more of the same.
00:31:36
It's not on Girardi.
00:31:37
He can't go out and make these guys pitch.
00:31:40
Well, e, I agree with you.
00:31:44
But, you know, didn't Clint tax on a guy like David Robinson who ultimately got injured, Who should have been in that bullpen.
00:31:52
You had, sir Anthony Dominguez, who who gets hurt that should have been in that bullpen.
00:31:56
I mean, I'm not saying it would have drastically changed it, but what I'm saying is again, I think we've all talked about this, and I know guys like Ranger Suarez and has has actually pitched pretty well at times.
00:32:06
But you know, this ultimately comes down to you not being able to draft well and not being able to produce your own home grown talent who most of the time start in the bullpen.
00:32:17
So I think that's been a big issue, Dave.
00:32:19
What do you think here with the Phillies, man? I hate to sound like a broken record, but a lot the same problems with the Eagles right there.
00:32:28
Inability to hit on draft picks to build a farm system.
00:32:32
Um, you know, ****ey Maniac.
00:32:35
Are you serious? E? I mean, he looks like a seventeen year old kid, Onda.
00:32:45
But when he was seventeen.
00:32:48
Hey, still looks seventeen.
00:32:50
I know it's crazy.
00:32:52
How long ago was that? You know, I mean, three and a half years ago. Yeah.
00:32:57
Hey, looks like a baby.
00:32:58
Still, you're supposed to be.
00:33:00
You know, this is the number one draft pick in major league baseball, so I don't get it, man.
00:33:06
And here's the other thing you were dangling re Muto out there, and I know this is kind of off the track here, but you have six toes.
00:33:15
Sanchez, you had a left hander Will Stewart and or a fro part of that trade.
00:33:21
And if you do not sign Rio Muto, you know you should be running out of town completely.
00:33:28
So that brings up right before Mike talks.
00:33:32
Because that brings us right to that.
00:33:33
And I want to go right thumb, like with this one.
00:33:35
I want, you know, Thio here this quick fifteen second clip because I'm thinking Dave along your lines.
00:33:41
It sounds like McClintock's already setting us up for the letdown with J.
00:33:45
T.
00:33:46
Because he was asked about this other day and and this was his response.
00:33:50
Tell me what this means.
00:33:51
Uh, you know, when you got actually, No, You know what? We'll talk about that.
00:33:55
I actually got Thio, uh, throw this in here real fast, but, um, he, you know, it almost sounds like he's setting us up to say you know what? It's not gonna happen.
00:34:03
Here you go.
00:34:04
What do you guys think? I mean, look, I think what I've said all along the way would love to have jt here.
00:34:11
But when you make that, when you make that trade, you know, you're trading for two years of control, and you know that.
00:34:18
So, um, you know, six, though, looked really good against us.
00:34:22
He's look good this year.
00:34:24
Um, but we've had two very productive years of J. T as well.
00:34:29
I mean, Mike right there.
00:34:32
I mean, he's basically saying, Listen, we had two years of control.
00:34:36
That's what we did.
00:34:37
I mean, is he setting us up to basically say, Look, I don't think this is gonna happen.
00:34:40
What do you think? I don't know that he's saying it's not gonna happen because I do think that they are going to continue to try, But it is damage control.
00:34:50
It's absolutely one hundred percent damage control.
00:34:54
Somebody should have through a D battery right across.
00:34:56
Yeah, he's trying.
00:34:59
He's trying to soften the blow should they not be able to get it done.
00:35:06
Yeah, that's that.
00:35:07
Listen, it was one hundred percent damage control.
00:35:09
Can you got to the money acting for a minute, though? Sure, sure, because I I do kind of, in a sense, feel bad for that kid because he had but hear me out on this for a second. Dave.
00:35:24
There is no way that he should have been drafted anywhere near the top ten, but the Phillies had set in their head because they had the first pick in the draft that if they could get anybody that was projected to be a top fifteen guy on the cheek, they could then go back in Round two and offer Kevin Gowdy a big enough signing bonus that he would skip college and signed with the Phillies.
00:36:00
So, ****ey Mony yak in every sense of the word is kind of like a little bit of a baseball *****.
00:36:08
He took the money in exchange for being the number one overall draft pick got undercut by probably two and a half three million dollars on the signing bonus, specifically, so the Phillies could take that two and a half three million dollars and entice Kevin Gowdy to not go to college.
00:36:30
And then Kevin Gowdy winds up blowing out His are.
00:36:33
So I never really I'm not blaming the kid.
00:36:37
No, no, I know, but there's a There's a lot of people that just want a handler, the kid, and say, Oh, he's the number one overall pick.
00:36:45
He should be better than he is.
00:36:47
Well, he is what he is.
00:36:50
If you want to blame anybody for drafted number one overall, you you blame the front office.
00:36:55
Sure, no, it's a pawn in the game.
00:37:01
I mean, they do that.
00:37:02
They're they're teams that were purposely looking at drafting guys that they're not going to sign.
00:37:09
Right? Well, you know, the biggest fear I have is exactly what James has checked in and said that J T will begin a Mets uniformed next year on.
00:37:17
I'll tell you that if he doesn't resign with the Phillies, the Mets is almost a given, and and that is, that is is horrible.
00:37:27
That can't happen just right.
00:37:30
You know what? I wanna ask you guys this because, look, you guys airway mawr Phillies fans than I am.
00:37:35
Like, I love the Phils, I will say, because I don't have much to root for, But no, but but in all.
00:37:42
But in all reality, I'm gonna ask you this when you talk about the player in the position.
00:37:49
Who other than potentially Nola Wheeler, I guess, And Bryce Harper, who could you say is more important to the Phillies? And even if you wanna put JT Upper, I mean, he's calling the pitching games like he's putting up catcher stats that are, you know what I mean? Those that's outfield like our first baseman, like or called picking All Star from any field position on top of what he does behind the plate, Where does he rank? As as you're spot on John.
00:38:23
He's the most important player on this team.
00:38:26
Number one.
00:38:27
It's over. It's a great credit.
00:38:29
It's a great question.
00:38:30
He is the most important player on this team.
00:38:33
More important than Olam or important than we were More important than Harper.
00:38:37
I completely agree.
00:38:39
He's the leader, man.
00:38:40
He's to capture their their the captains of the team, if there any, if they're worth their salt a little bit and he's obviously his third. Correct.
00:38:50
Hey is the leader of the club.
00:38:54
Think about you.
00:38:55
Think about the catching position and go around the national in the American League.
00:38:59
I mean, you know, this isn't back in the day where you had these all star catchers with, you know, with through every single division.
00:39:05
I mean, there's they're far and few between.
00:39:07
And if anybody, John, you know, you play daily fantasy, you start setting that line about the catcher's last miss you put in.
00:39:13
I mean, very rarely do you see Ah, couple above off four or five thousand draws.
00:39:18
So I mean, listen, it's to the Buster Posey effect.
00:39:22
I mean, Buster Posey was that guy for X amount of years.
00:39:25
I mean, Yadier Molina was that guy, but he really wasn't the bat, right? He wasn't the bat like J.
00:39:31
T is right now, so J t is very unique.
00:39:34
I you know I can't Listen.
00:39:36
I don't know about you guys.
00:39:37
What were you guys say? And I got an ad lib here.
00:39:39
But who was the last catcher? That was this lethal offensively that you can remember that that did vote because it wasn't Pudge.
00:39:48
Wasn't Ivan Rodriguez? Maybe. I don't know.
00:39:51
E.
00:39:54
I agree with a guy. Wasn't all ruins.
00:40:01
E o a guy wasn't ruins out.
00:40:06
Everybody wait to pick Barry.
00:40:09
You think Barry should be in the Hall of Fame? Yeah, for the roids.
00:40:15
Yeah, because he's a because he's in.
00:40:17
That's why I think Paris because he's in Jeff Bagwell.
00:40:21
Jeff Bangles in there too.
00:40:23
You stop that.
00:40:24
Hey, we're bringing up old school.
00:40:29
Let me ask you this in all seriousness.
00:40:31
What about what about Salvador Perez from the rules? Yeah, but but consistency that? Yeah.
00:40:40
You wanna talk about consistency? Look at his stats for the past seven years.
00:40:44
He will throw runners out.
00:40:47
He calls a good pitching game.
00:40:49
Do you really think that the Royals had a good pitching staff? Are you kidding me? Like, just die? I'm just saying I'm just saying like, hey, are there was a master like there's no doubt.
00:41:02
I don't know.
00:41:03
I don't know how good his, uh, his game calling game waas per se.
00:41:10
I'm not saying it was bad, but he was more done for his bat than his, you know, pitch calling.
00:41:16
So I'm gonna sell Perez.
00:41:18
Truthfully, I like that.
00:41:20
I was gonna I was gonna jump in with Mike Lieberthal, but I think I've got a way off.
00:41:23
Let me Let me ask you guys a quick question, because I just thought I just saw James this comment kind of flash across the bottom of the screen there.
00:41:33
Let's say John Middleton has to again handle negotiations on his own and he goes to J.
00:41:44
T and basically just says, Listen, Clint, Tax gone.
00:41:47
MacPhail's gone.
00:41:50
What does it take to keep you here? If John Middleton offers him a blank check? Do you think he stays? Or is it just to the point now where he's like, man F this two years? It was fun, but I'm out.
00:42:10
What do you guys think? You know, I'll go first and I'll say, I think he's out.
00:42:16
I dio I think you know Bryce Harper E o.
00:42:20
I think I think Harper.
00:42:22
But well, you know what it is.
00:42:24
You know, I think Harper will make the attempt to try to talk to him, but to see how Listen, it's embarrassing the simple fact that you have.
00:42:32
You're you have Bryce Harper who you paid all this money for and said that price we're gonna do everything we can to be competitive, that you have him holding up signs to sign.
00:42:41
JT, you have the fan Temic fans blowing horns and ****, you know, in a black saying, saying We need to sign a catcher.
00:42:49
I mean, it's embarrassing.
00:42:51
That's gonna be embarrassing for J.
00:42:52
T.
00:42:53
Rowe Muto.
00:42:54
So if I'm j t, I'm saying, Screw the Phillies.
00:42:56
If they wanna play games, I'm out.
00:42:58
I don't care what I'm out.
00:42:59
I'm going.
00:43:00
I'm already gone to me.
00:43:01
I think he's already going.
00:43:02
I hate to say it.
00:43:03
I just think he's already out.
00:43:05
Just my opinion, Dave, What do you think? I got one reason why your whole stay.
00:43:10
Joe Girardi.
00:43:12
Uh, that's okay, E like that.
00:43:15
He's a players coach.
00:43:16
He's a catcher he knows will be protected and taking care off.
00:43:21
And if the Phillies, if the Phillies do a couple things, I mean they can buy some players to help become ah, winning program.
00:43:31
I mean, they need an ace pitcher.
00:43:33
We've talked about it before.
00:43:35
Aaron Nola is not an ace, Aaron.
00:43:37
Nola.
00:43:39
Aaron Nola is a start.
00:43:41
But Aaron Nola is not an ace.
00:43:43
Um, so you know, what did the nationals do when Strasbourg was injured? In the beginning, You know, the beginning of his career.
00:43:50
He wasn't as consistent.
00:43:51
What did the Nationals dio? They signed Max Scherzer, and that was brilliant, right? I mean, that's their the things that you need to do in order to become these championship teams.
00:44:04
You know, we were not going to get it home grown, so they have to spend the money and J t definitely that has to get done if it doesn't get done.
00:44:14
And this town doesn't go in an uproar and get rid of Klentak and whoever else is on that management board.
00:44:19
They have seventeen thousand owners over there, you know, you know, it's it's goes back to the same things.
00:44:27
It's unfortunate that our programs are in disarray right now.
00:44:31
It really is.
00:44:33
It's a shame our buddy Rick's checking instead.
00:44:35
Van Brocklin.
00:44:36
Since you said close with McNabb.
00:44:38
So our trivia question.
00:44:39
But no, that is not It is well, eso if anybody and we'll go back to it again.
00:44:44
If if anybody can grab this, let us know. Eagles Trivia.
00:44:47
Off Eagle Spires with over four hundred yard attempts.
00:44:50
Who has the best yards per rush average? It's not Ricky Waters.
00:44:53
It's not Brown.
00:44:54
It's not McNabb.
00:44:55
It's not Van Brocklin.
00:44:57
So keep those guests is coming.
00:45:00
John Blank check.
00:45:01
Does he stay? Uh, so he's like that.
00:45:09
Says it all.
00:45:10
All right, he's now.
00:45:12
What it comes down to is you don't know what his day to day is.
00:45:16
You don't know what the clubhouses there.
00:45:19
If there's a reason for him not to stay, he's out.
00:45:23
If there's a reason for him to stay, he's there, you know? I mean, if if he's that buddy, Buddy, what, you're already or Harper or whatever it is or he enjoys where he's at, he thinks there's something going great.
00:45:37
If there's something like Jimmy Butler had with the Sixers, where there was just something, I smell something fishy.
00:45:43
I don't know what it is.
00:45:44
I don't know if there's a dead rat in the corner or something, but it don't smell right.
00:45:49
I'm out, You know what I mean? And I seriously think that's what it is.
00:45:53
Yes, Girardi being an ex catcher.
00:45:55
I mean, look, he knows he runs the market.
00:45:58
It's about where he wants to be comfortable.
00:46:01
Is he comfortable in this spot in this town doing what he does? There's no question on the skills.
00:46:07
I mean, in all reality does does he want? And I'm putting it out there.
00:46:14
Does he want to go to the L A Dodgers to play catcher to be batting number seven? Potentially? And when a world Siri's Yeah, possibly I don't know.
00:46:25
Or would he rather be baton like the guy that crushes it in Philadelphia and gets a championship like I run this team? This is my team, not me and seven other guys.
00:46:40
So and I think he's young enough.
00:46:42
Look, when he's thirty three, we might make a different decision right now.
00:46:47
I would love to see him make his mark and Philly, and I think it could still happen.
00:46:51
Yes, I sure hope so.
00:46:53
I dio but but one of those guys you all three guys alluded to, Was it Jimmy Butler effect? Okay, what? What? Segways us? Right into the seventy Sixers coaching search and one of the guys who falls off the list is Billy Donovan.
00:47:08
That guy.
00:47:09
I was all my list, man.
00:47:10
He was high on my list.
00:47:12
I like Billy Donovan.
00:47:13
I thought he was He would have been a really good fit here for the Philadelphia seventy Sixers.
00:47:18
It seems like they have a very narrow list from what I'm hearing, uh, you know, from Tyronn Lue? Some like D'Antoni, you know, and maybe a couple others.
00:47:29
I'm starting to hear the Alvin Gentry name being floated around a little bit, So really not sure what they're looking for.
00:47:36
But Dave come to you.
00:47:38
You know, obviously they want the hired Antonio a few years back.
00:47:42
Uh, you know, and it didn't happen.
00:47:45
You know, he goes and he and he works with Houston for a while now.
00:47:48
He's free again.
00:47:49
Uh, I'm not a D'Antoni guy.
00:47:51
Never been a D'Antoni guy.
00:47:52
I don't think he fits this team whatsoever.
00:47:56
I really don't understand it.
00:47:57
I'm a Jason Kidd guy.
00:47:59
I'm a Mark Jackson guy.
00:48:01
I'm a Nate McMillan guy.
00:48:02
I like those names.
00:48:04
I'm not a Tyronn Lue guy, Dave, if your top too.
00:48:08
But I ask you your top two and what's your opinion before you give your talk to What's your opinion of right now? Off what? The seventy six they're doing as far as their coaching search.
00:48:17
Uh, I mean, I honestly don't know what they're doing.
00:48:20
The guy that they're supposed to get just left.
00:48:23
That was That was I had my eggs all in that basket, and I don't even know what to tell you, because all the other guys that you just D'Antoni does.
00:48:32
You see you later, Joelle, and be than Ben Simmons, because that's not our system.
00:48:36
You know, um and and, well, Billy Donovan, he coached in college, right? We know what he did in Florida, and I think he would been better suited to take care of some of these young attitudes on this team and get them to play along.
00:48:53
Now, in my opinion, you're gonna have to go a different direction and getting older, possible ex player, um and and not Tyronn Lue.
00:49:05
Please. Not Tyronn Lue.
00:49:07
I don't.
00:49:08
Does anybody want him to be a Sixers coach? A lot of people do it, Not may.
00:49:14
Are they from Philly? Yes.
00:49:17
Well, there, you know what? Stop.
00:49:19
Stop watching the game.
00:49:22
Yep.
00:49:23
Stop adopting the game. Listen.
00:49:25
Thank you, Dave.
00:49:26
Get lost.
00:49:27
You know, so e I don't get it.
00:49:32
I don't get it.
00:49:33
E don't understand it either, man.
00:49:36
What? You know what? Just for the simple fact that it's gonna be embarrassing that even I don't care how good.
00:49:43
Tyronne Lewis, the biggest.
00:49:45
The biggest image of Tyronn Lue, he could have twelve rings is always gonna be getting stepped over by AI.
00:49:51
That's not who I want is my head coats snot who I want.
00:49:54
I'm sorry, I I think he was a puppet in Cleveland.
00:49:58
People could say what they want, right? And I don't want that here.
00:50:01
I want somebody to stand up.
00:50:02
I want somebody to be this one area.
00:50:04
I want somebody to teach these young guys how to play.
00:50:07
And I That's why I like Jason Kidd.
00:50:09
That's why I like Mark Jackson.
00:50:10
Nate McMillan got such a role deal in Indiana, which I don't understand why I like Nate to I.
00:50:17
I like these guys.
00:50:18
Even if you wanna bring it Dawn Staley or a Becky Hammon.
00:50:21
Give me something different, please.
00:50:24
With the Tyronn Lue.
00:50:25
I don't want to see Tyronn Lue.
00:50:27
Mike, I'm sorry I'm Mark Mark Jackson to me.
00:50:35
I've been talking about Mark Jackson for a while.
00:50:37
I don't know why he's not coaching another team.
00:50:41
There's something there.
00:50:43
He has a problem somewhere where there's a disconnect where Mark Jackson hasn't been back coaching another team, I don't know if it's that he should not be.
00:50:51
Oh, that's ESPN money.
00:50:53
Well, that's what I'm saying.
00:50:54
He chose not to.
00:50:56
For reasons he's getting paid out the wazoo by ESPN s.
00:51:01
So I mean, my my pipe dream of a coach would be somebody like Tim Duncan.
00:51:06
Andi, I know that's pie in the sky, but I just think that that would be an unbelievable opportunity for Sixers.
00:51:16
But other than that, Tony More, I've been pushing for Mark Jackson for a couple of years now.
00:51:21
James *** as a Bulls fan, he says he's happy to bills that he's happy Billy chose the Bulls shows the Bulls want to finally win because Billy wouldn't have signed with the Bulls. I agree.
00:51:31
Bulls have a nice young team out there.
00:51:33
They dio eso good for Billy bands.
00:51:35
It's a good spot for him, so I'm like, what's going on with the Sixers? man.
00:51:38
What are you thinking? I think you guys know where I'm at.
00:51:42
I mean, I've been on the Mark Jackson train you pretty much since day one.
00:51:46
I mean, I threw it out there early on and said the three guys that I really wanted the Sixers to take a look at We're Mark Jackson, David Fizdale, who is still available.
00:52:00
And the thing with David Fizdale is he knows how to take a point guard and the center and make them work together, which is what this team needs.
00:52:12
So I like Mark Jackson a lot.
00:52:15
I've been on that train since the beginning.
00:52:18
I like David Fizdale.
00:52:19
Former Kings coach Dave Yerger is still out there.
00:52:24
Um, I'm intrigued.
00:52:27
I'm interested.
00:52:28
I won't say intrigued, but I'm interested with Jason Kidd.
00:52:33
But the longer this goes on tone, the more on thinking that is there a possibility and this is total pie in the sky.
00:52:46
But is there a possibility that thes egomaniacal seventy Sixers owners are trying to sc**** up enough money toe lure Phil at a retirement? You imagine? Could you imagine e s? So would I.
00:53:09
So would I.
00:53:10
I mean, the Zen Master in Philadelphia.
00:53:13
Are you kidding? May.
00:53:14
That would be fantastic.
00:53:15
I don't care.
00:53:16
How old are you? Oh, I would love it.
00:53:18
I would love it.
00:53:20
I mean, that that would be the ultimate.
00:53:22
The ultimate.
00:53:23
You know what I think? Thes thes.
00:53:24
Owner's heir to dumb.
00:53:26
They even do something like that.
00:53:28
I think they are.
00:53:29
I think they are.
00:53:30
E don't disagree, e.
00:53:35
You have enough money.
00:53:37
But if they wanted to, they could, Yes, they do have enough money to sc**** together if they want to.
00:53:41
They could.
00:53:42
I just I just don't see them being smart enough to even go into that.
00:53:46
And I'll be honest with you.
00:53:47
I honestly think there's a huge power struggle going on with Elton Brain and these owners because I think when that came out to, I still say two weeks ago when the report came out by John Johnson W Pipe who? You know, I respect John.
00:54:01
John gets a lot of things right.
00:54:03
And Johnson from all his sources, tell him Tyronn Lue set to be the coach of the Philadelphia seventy six years, and all of a sudden it went away.
00:54:11
I think that was Elton Brains pick, and I think the owners like Whoa, whoa, that's not happening And all of a sudden, everything had to be retracted.
00:54:19
We haven't heard anything for, like two now.
00:54:23
It's interesting that you said that, though, because it was it was Tyronn Lue said to be the next head coach of the seventy Sixers.
00:54:30
And then all of a sudden it was Mike D'Antoni's job to lose.
00:54:35
And now we don't hear about D Antoni anymore, either.
00:54:37
So what the hell is going on there? There's there's There's something weird going on within this organization, and it's not good and needs to be fixed.
00:54:45
It does.
00:54:46
It's not good. It needs to be fixed.
00:54:48
And I'm gonna go right to John with this question, because what keeps coming up is how can the Sixers get better? How could they change? Because once they get a coach, they have to figure out and they're talking about.
00:54:59
Listen, I've seen some ridiculous trade scenarios.
00:55:02
I love CP three.
00:55:03
I'm a huge Chris Paul guy.
00:55:05
I I think he's done right now.
00:55:07
I dio I don't think he has much left.
00:55:09
He tries like hell, but I just don't think he's there and I'm not trading Matisse.
00:55:15
Stibel.
00:55:16
I'm not doing it so and he's been involved in every single one of these trade snares.
00:55:20
So, John, trade for CP three.
00:55:23
Does a trade like that help or hurt this team? Or do you even think it's possible? Or would you rather see him go after a guy like Drew holiday or buddy? Hell, it doesn't hurt the team, but I'm not giving up Teibel.
00:55:35
Uh, he's too young.
00:55:39
This may be one of those guys that you actually hit on in the draft recently.
00:55:44
I mean, look, yeah, there was the process and everything.
00:55:47
I'm not talking about that.
00:55:49
I'm talking about these other positional players that they've had for the past, you know, a couple of years? No, Absolutely.
00:55:56
You don't give him up.
00:55:57
And yes, I will take any three of them.
00:56:01
But I am not giving up.
00:56:02
Probably the best defensive guy on the team.
00:56:05
I agree.
00:56:06
I would not give up, Dave.
00:56:08
You feel the same way? Yeah.
00:56:10
I'm not giving up Bible for CP three.
00:56:12
I don't want CP three eight.
00:56:14
That's not your answer.
00:56:16
No, it's not.
00:56:17
I I know they're trying to do you know, and the CP three thing is what keeps bringing back to the D'Antoni thing.
00:56:24
So, you know, I think they're tied together.
00:56:26
I do.
00:56:27
I think you know. It's like Mike D'Antoni.
00:56:29
If it's his job to lose, goes in there and says, Why want Chris Paul and how the scenario start coming? About what? How do we get Chris Paul on this team? You know, how do we get D'Antoni and match them up with Chris Paul? Because I honestly think there's no other reason why this conversation even comes to fruition without Mike D'Antoni being a part of it one hundred percent.
00:56:48
So I'm like, Do you agree with that? I'm right on board with all you guys.
00:56:53
I have no no interest in CP three.
00:56:57
No interest in like D'Antoni.
00:56:59
What about if you get D'Antoni and the situation comes up? The scenario plays out that we get Antoni and the trade goes Ben Simmons for James Harden.
00:57:13
Wow, I'll tell you ready? I'll tell you this.
00:57:17
I would trade Joel for James Harden.
00:57:19
Oh, I'll keep that and trade Joel.
00:57:22
I'll do that yesterday.
00:57:24
Now that more of Santoni's.
00:57:28
So I'm just laughing at this because I'm thinking in my head it's a great question by Dave.
00:57:34
But if you think Joel and then can't play well together, you try putting hardened Joel together.
00:57:42
John, John, you're already shake your head bad.
00:57:45
You're shaking your head.
00:57:46
What's the head shake for? Did all those combinations gave me heartburn? I don't know.
00:57:54
None of it.
00:57:55
None of it sounds good.
00:57:56
Why can't we just got, like Craig Eglow to coach? Be a player on.
00:58:02
Just start shooting threes and coaching the game.
00:58:05
Rip it.
00:58:06
Do take his suit coat off.
00:58:08
Go in there with his uni and do his thing, man.
00:58:11
Let's get get, get! Get all the famous white guys that shot out from the from the court.
00:58:16
Get marked poison there.
00:58:18
Get cranky Dan Marley.
00:58:20
Thunder.
00:58:21
Dan, Get them all in there, man way.
00:58:28
Get Haji in there.
00:58:29
I Hey, look at all the three point championship shooters.
00:58:34
Bring one of them guys in from twenty years ago.
00:58:37
They could still shoot the rock.
00:58:38
Yeah, I'll tell you what.
00:58:41
It probably the best shooter we have because the pious hours absolutely sucks, so it doesn't matter.
00:58:46
We're paying him a ****load of money.
00:58:48
Craig Hodges.
00:58:50
One of three point contest.
00:58:51
There's a free agent.
00:58:53
He wasn't even wanna be him, and they invited him back.
00:58:56
Remember that? That was great.
00:58:59
They I'll tell you that was one of three point contest was was legit.
00:59:03
Man.
00:59:04
That was when you look for Remember those days? Man, You guys were all around the same age.
00:59:08
I'll tell you what.
00:59:09
I I could not wait for All Star weekend back then.
00:59:13
That was like the the slam dunk contest.
00:59:16
The three point contest was like, you know, I had sleepovers over that man.
00:59:20
I mean, that that was legit, man.
00:59:22
I still remember Dominique versus Jordan and the slam dunk contest like that was, like, iconic and and And they just played it again this past All Star weekend.
00:59:35
And you know, having my kids watch it too.
00:59:38
It's like, Wow, e I actually take those when they are tay, I take those e i DVR did.
00:59:55
Whenever I saw him on, they had dunk, dunk, dunk, like all the and it was like it was right in that time frame and I take that I couldn't get any kid to watch the **** things with I a trivia question for you guys.
01:00:08
Oh, a new one. Yeah.
01:00:11
So? So of this of this modern era of dunk contest who won the first n ba slam dunk contest as we know it.
01:00:24
Mm. Dr.
01:00:25
J? No.
01:00:27
Dr.
01:00:28
J was defeated in the finals by this person.
01:00:32
Yes, they're Ugo.
01:00:35
Awesome job, boys.
01:00:37
Weird.
01:00:39
Random question.
01:00:41
Wait.
01:00:43
The last Abe a slam dunk contest.
01:00:47
Dr.
01:00:48
J was defeated by David Thompson on the first NBA Slam dunk contest.
01:00:53
Dr.
01:00:54
J was defeated by Larry Needs Doctor hated it on the chin.
01:01:00
I'll tell you I remember.
01:01:05
You know, it's not even ***uely.
01:01:07
I remember vividly.
01:01:08
Something that the three point contests with, Like Kenny Skywalker, Cedric Ceballos with the blindfold Dee Brown pumping up the Reebok pumps.
01:01:18
Like, you know, it's amazing what you remember.
01:01:22
Because, listen, I mean, that was just That was part of our game back then. Man.
01:01:27
Fun.
01:01:28
Go back to the one that was in way back to back.
01:01:33
That was in my hey, coming from Pittsburgh.
01:01:36
You have no teams.
01:01:38
The Hawks were my dream man way.
01:01:45
Pittsburgh places e had so many e Pittsburgh e What? I don't even think I watched that movie for until twenty years after it came on.
01:02:03
E nice.
01:02:06
I tell you what, did Wood shop in art class? Back in the day, it was the Hawks.
01:02:12
It was the Hawks All about my to that was that was Lenny Wilkins, right? Lenny Wilkens was the coach.
01:02:20
Yeah, the whole of Famer.
01:02:23
Hall of Famer.
01:02:24
There's another bring him out of Well, we've got to rise hymn for the dead.
01:02:27
But bring him retirement, right? I thought the wildest thing in a dunk contest that I ever at least that I could remember seeing was all six foot eleven of Tom Chambers going up and like his chest was at the rim when he threw it down.
01:02:46
And I'm like, Oh, that was scary, too, because that was that was back in the day where the shorts were so small his balls were probably hanging out of his shorts when he jumped up.
01:02:55
It's a big boy with Yeah, it's a ton of hops.
01:02:59
You're right.
01:03:00
Trunk hanging down with the top of the net.
01:03:02
So e shopping on that.
01:03:11
That's fried E Here you listen.
01:03:14
Hey, real fast.
01:03:15
When we get out of here, you know, Mike, You brought it up last week.
01:03:18
A little fancy recap.
01:03:19
And, you know, we all play.
01:03:20
We all play fantasy.
01:03:22
We all have some fun.
01:03:23
And I'll tell you, a week to week two was some some guys who just absolutely fell off a cliff.
01:03:29
Some guys who who really were a shock to me, Uh, me personally, one of my my lowest point that I was ninety. Minds.
01:03:37
Now he, you know, can't catch Heinz.
01:03:39
All of a sudden, he gets one catch, you know? You know, I talked him up, and all of a sudden he gets eight catches, one which I don't know what the hell happened to him, and then you got a guy.
01:03:48
I mean, me and John talked off air James Robinson, who you know, for the Jacksonville Jaguars, who who all of a sudden man just looks like he's legit.
01:03:57
He's absolutely Jet could be serviceable.
01:03:59
So Hey, Mike, what about you? Who was your Who was your number one guy this weekend and And who was your number one bus? Uh, well, my number one bust is easy in both the league's that.
01:04:11
I play it.
01:04:12
Say Kwan Barclay, two point eight points before before leaving with a season ending injury.
01:04:19
Um, yeah, and that's that's gonna hurt me in two separate leagues, but one league.
01:04:26
I had a very, very strong Thursday night showing from Nick Chubb.
01:04:32
Unfortunately, it was not enough because I did wind up getting pounded in that league.
01:04:38
Thea Other league.
01:04:41
I got huge performances out of Stefon Diggs and Darren Waller, but my opponent on Monday night had Josh Jacobs.
01:04:54
So I was leading by literally point one five of a point until Oakland got the ball back with the lead and decided to run the clock out and Josh Jacobs being the bell Cal bat put it away and I wound up losing by, like, two point five points.
01:05:13
That's her piece right there.
01:05:14
Hey, John, remember Stefon Diggs number? I said he was gonna be a top seven receiver.
01:05:20
I'm just I'm just saying member, everybody e Everybody said Tony was crazy.
01:05:26
Jakes all crazy.
01:05:28
E If I got stuff on digs, I'm trading them like a hot cake.
01:05:33
Uh, he's selling high selling.
01:05:37
Hi.
01:05:38
How about you, John? How's your weekend? Go? We can't like good.
01:05:41
Let me just finish that by Josh Allen is not gonna be a perennial three hundred yard or a separate.
01:05:49
I don't know what you call seven hundred and twenty nine yards to God.
01:05:53
He will not be a weekly three hundred yard passer.
01:05:58
So that's why I'm saying sell on digs.
01:06:01
So far, so good.
01:06:03
Look, my, my big thing, I will tell you.
01:06:06
Probably for the first time in at least twenty years, I started to running backs from the same **** team.
01:06:16
I did not want to start Melvin Gordon against the Parc de I had left Bell out on IR.
01:06:26
So I'm saying like you're running thin and I said, You know what? I would rather limit my floor and capped my ceiling by going with Chavan Hunt.
01:06:35
Wow, one If one does good other one won't if the other one does good.
01:06:42
Vice versa.
01:06:43
And it just so happened that they racked up two hundred plus yards on the ground.
01:06:48
Both got touchdowns, got me my carry bonus.
01:06:51
So props props to the coach on on starting to Cleveland Brown running back with you again for the history of my fantasy career.
01:07:03
Props to Coker.
01:07:04
I love it. I love it.
01:07:06
What about you, Dave? What do you want me to tell you? The O.
01:07:15
We want this.
01:07:16
I want this week.
01:07:17
But McCaffrey's hurt.
01:07:19
Andi left Bell so hurt.
01:07:21
So I got to have my top three picks out Kareem Hunt.
01:07:26
I do have.
01:07:27
And he had a big day for me.
01:07:29
De hop.
01:07:31
I mean, he's killing it for me.
01:07:34
Um, Drew Brees is my quarterback.
01:07:38
Darren Waller is my tight end.
01:07:40
Had a nice Had a nice day.
01:07:42
So I got to figure out I think I just picked up where I heard that Coleman was picked up by the Giants for Barkley Freeman, Friedrich Von Freeman.
01:07:55
So we put in for free agency on him.
01:07:58
I'm in need of a running back right now because my two top guys are hurt.
01:08:04
I do have Cream Hunt and John, What is your opinion on this one? I did pick up DeAndre swift to for Detroit.
01:08:11
The rookie.
01:08:13
Hey, as long as he a zoo, always you can catch the ball.
01:08:15
He might be okay.
01:08:19
You keep swift, but you got McCaffrey.
01:08:23
You need Mike Davis, number one.
01:08:26
You know, Mike Davis has got to be number one But you don't know what to expect from like Davis, man.
01:08:30
He's gonna get the volume.
01:08:31
He's gonna get the volume that z last week.
01:08:36
What's that? Hey, Had enough catches like catches.
01:08:40
He is going to get the volume.
01:08:42
He is the guy.
01:08:43
It is a short lived three week, you know? Yes, he's a number two running back for three weeks.
01:08:51
Then he relegates to a number five running back on fantasy teams.
01:08:55
Yeah, I can.
01:08:57
Yeah, I believe that.
01:08:58
So wait, eso before we go to that, did anybody got another Guess? Because we'll throw this trivia question out there one more time before we get out of here, because I obviously have the answer.
01:09:11
So, David, you gotta guess.
01:09:13
You look like I mean, you said McNabb was close, so I'm gonna go with Westbrook.
01:09:17
Uh, no, That would be wrong.
01:09:20
John, do you have? Do you have another guest? Mike, do you have another guest? No, No, Michael Vick.
01:09:29
I'm going with Duce Staley, man.
01:09:31
No Deuce, No Deuce.
01:09:33
I can't believe you guys didn't mention the man.
01:09:37
What's that say? Nope.
01:09:41
And it's not shady.
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And Rick Lorenzo? It's not Westbrook.
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It is.
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Randall Cunningham ran a six point six point four yards per rush.
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Randall Cunningham.
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It's funny because nobody would have thought that that's That's a funny thought part.
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So, you know, because everybody's thinking all these names that you don't you just don't put it together.
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It's funny, but yeah, Randall Cunningham.
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So that was good.
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That was a good trivia question.
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I like that. That's dumped a lot of people.
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The ultimate weapon.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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Look, look, you know, just already knows these comments are actually like, when? When people type the comments because we use a software, they're delayed by, like, two minutes.
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So James actually got Cunningham before we even said the word, so because that's just popped up, so good.
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Good. Good job.
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Forget honey.
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Nice job, Jane.
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Nice job.
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And for everybody that that tuned in tonight, listen tonight, as always, we really appreciate it.
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It's been a tremendous ride so far.
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We just went over to ten thousand.
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Mark were climbing, uh, got a couple new bodies.
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They're gonna be coming in the freight next week.
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We're gonna keep these trivia questions going.
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Pretty soon, we're gonna have these online.
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You see the numbers on the bottom follow at heat.
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Rachel, sports on all social platforms.
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It's very easy.
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We just need a big favor off, actually.
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Going to your social platform.
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Okay? Social distancing.
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And at James second Look, James second.
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I didn't even google it good.
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Yeah, I'm kind of thinking he did by the emoji to the ends in there.
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I don't know, man.
01:11:42
James What? Google. But that's OK.
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It's all good.
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He got it in before all of us.
01:11:46
So again, for your host, Tony Chase Ocotillo.
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Uh, like like he went three beers deep tonight.
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The white bar uh, three Pittsburgh.
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John Coker at Coach Dave Dixon on this Mike.
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Kids went out.
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Put in the book, Dave, They they say stay healthy.
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See you next week.

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