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00:00:00
Livestream.
00:00:01
We're doing a little pregame show here for Game three, the Western Conference finals.
00:00:05
I know Lakers Lakers fan bases excited off of that huge Anthony Davis buzzer beater from another night.
00:00:11
But we gotta be ready for Game three, man.
00:00:14
What's going on in a How you feeling, man? I am feeling good, uh, still very, very happy with that performance that Anthony Davis had.
00:00:24
I'm glad that he's gotten his opportunity.
00:00:26
Thio kind of make a name for himself with his fourth quarter heroics in game two and like, um, like, kind of, you know, like that's gonna go into, like, Laker lower in history, like And so I'm just so glad that he was able to do that because things were getting really tight, uh, down the stretch for the Lakers.
00:00:49
So what were your what were your thoughts like, What did you think when he made that shot? I mean, I was in my ba*****t, my wife and I, we were downstairs watching it and like we went down a point.
00:01:01
And I was just thinking Yokich was amazing down the stretch.
00:01:05
And but a D was amazing down the stretch also, and I didn't know what the Lakers were gonna draw up, but they draw that play up.
00:01:12
Rondo inbounds the ball and LeBron sets a pick non pick, whatever the hell it was, and 80 comes off a curl and gets opening.
00:01:22
I mean, honestly, man, he drains it like he was like Kevin Durant or somebody at his size.
00:01:27
They hit that three and it and like I was standing up and here's the shot and I like, I yell, dropped to my knees and I like slam my hands on the floor and my wife like she's on the couch behind me.
00:01:41
She gets up and she's screaming and like, What was great about it for me was that I've had all these like, game winning moments with the Lakers that my wife actually has an experience with me.
00:01:50
Um, many of them were doing the Shaq Kobe era when her and I didn't know each other, right, And you know, there's a handful during, you know, the Kobe Pau era, but like she wasn't she was with me at the tail end when they won their final championship like this was like the one game winner that we were both together in the same room and like, it was nuts that she went nuts too.
00:02:11
But I couldn't have written it up better, man.
00:02:15
I mean, I don't want it to come down to a game winner, but yeah, for sure, we don't wait by, but you gotta give props.
00:02:22
Toe the nuggets, man.
00:02:23
They're not gonna go down without a fight in any game.
00:02:26
No, they're not.
00:02:27
I mean, I actually felt really good for Anthony Davis, like all the talk about him when he wanted to leave New Orleans and people were saying, Well, he can't lead a team, He's soft, He's this.
00:02:35
He's that he can't handle the bright lights, right, All that stuff.
00:02:38
And you know, the biggest opportunity, the biggest stage.
00:02:43
He's the one that gets the ball.
00:02:45
He's the one.
00:02:46
Basically, he's willing us in that game down the stretch, and he hits that game winner.
00:02:50
And it was just like now he he can handle L.
00:02:53
A.
00:02:54
He's performed the entire playoffs.
00:02:56
I mean, I was just so happy that he hit that shot and I'm like, were you know what? We're in good shape, post LeBron like.
00:03:04
That's that's kind of how I felt after that.
00:03:06
I know we are, no matter what.
00:03:08
Like that shot was like, we'll be all right, Post, LeBron.
00:03:11
Yeah, I I agree.
00:03:12
I think I think, um, aside from just being happy for him as a player, especially considering all the stuff that people were saying about him Is this guy really it out like, Ah, Laker, like the next Laker.
00:03:23
Great big man.
00:03:24
Um, whatever.
00:03:26
Whatever it is, I was happy for him just as a player.
00:03:29
Thio, just find some success? Um, I think so.
00:03:33
I was in the same situation.
00:03:34
I was in the same situation my wife and my daughter were actually eating downstairs on I was watching the game in the office.
00:03:39
So my wife watches a couple of games with me, but she won't watch too many.
00:03:43
We had a situation where one time the game was really close, and she started asking me a bunch of questions that I just, like turned to look at.
00:03:49
I said, Look, you can't talk to me right now, and I don't need this like I don't want to be mean to you, but I need to pay attention to this, but I can't answer it.
00:03:56
It's like being in a movie.
00:03:58
And you like, Look, I can't explain this to you right now because there's something happening on the screen.
00:04:01
So, uh, after that, I think she kind of understood, like, kind of how I watch these games and like, how intense intensity.
00:04:08
I'm like focusing on stuff or whatever, but one of the things that, uh, I didn't drop to my knees, but I definitely got up and started punching the air a lot like in, like, you know, just like, you know, finally, that we had that moment.
00:04:23
Um, I'm actually kind of glad that the Lakers blew that lead because I feel like maybe they got caught into a little bit of like, ah, false sense of security.
00:04:30
We had a big blowout in game one, So, um, even though it didn't end up in a loss, it definitely was a punch in the face sort of response by the Nuggets.
00:04:39
And I thought the Lakers played very like LeBron played uncharacteristically bad, like, really, like, surprisingly bad in the second half.
00:04:47
And, uh and that's I mean, sometimes you get duds like that and he and that's not That's just the second half the first half of this sensational.
00:04:57
But obviously it's pretty clear.
00:04:58
On the second half, Denver was like, We can't let LeBron get to the rim on And I think like the Reps calling a couple charges on him kind of like made him like think twice like all right, you know, because obviously doesn't want toe turnovers and stuff like that.
00:05:10
And then the fact that Denver was like in the bonus for, like, the last six minutes of, like, the fourth like that makes things a little bit difficult when you're attacking the room and stuff I got.
00:05:18
So I'm really happy that the Lakers won.
00:05:21
I'm really happy for Andy Davis.
00:05:23
I'm really happy that the Lakers pulled that went out because, um, you know you wanna win him no matter what, And, uh, or how it looks, Uh, what do you think is? What do you think? How do you think they respond? My my big thing has been like Rondo.
00:05:38
And so they had, like 23 turnovers, 24 turnovers last game.
00:05:41
Ron had six and Rondo had five.
00:05:44
And knowing that kind of competitors, those two guys are like my thing has been you're going to get, like, a very knock on wood.
00:05:50
You're gonna get, like, a very sharp LeBron in a very sharp rondo, uh, this game as, like a bounce back game.
00:05:56
I think Vogel's telling them like, Hey, we dodged a bullet here like we played really, really bad.
00:06:02
Um, and we can't do that against a team like this.
00:06:05
You mentioned it when we talked before last game.
00:06:08
Like we were probably gonna get the Nuggets best shot.
00:06:10
And Yokich played like a monster.
00:06:13
Like I love, say, like I love like, there's a generation of fans, man, that don't get to see, like, the Big Man battle, right? Like we got the theater like a D and Yokich.
00:06:23
They were battling.
00:06:24
So Yokich was nasty.
00:06:26
Jamal Murray.
00:06:27
He played well, um, Michael Porter Jr.
00:06:31
He played well.
00:06:32
Also, there was a There was a few plays where I was like Porter Jr was hitting his, you know, he was in his bag a little bit, and I felt like Kuzma was tryingto do this thing a little.
00:06:43
Yeah, I was, like, just back off, man, like, you know, but yeah, I thought we got Denver's best shot like and so I feel like losing on a game winner like that that could either be completely deflating and they could just be like they could come out tonight and lay a dud like Look, man, they came back against Utah.
00:07:03
They came back against the Clippers, and that takes a huge amount of energy to keep doing that.
00:07:09
Siri's after Siri's and to have a game last night where you want to go 1120 r o to LeBron LeBron's.
00:07:18
Teams have never lost when they've been up to Oh, right, Like I just saw that Yeah, when they go to any serious at all.
00:07:25
So I mean, in that moment, like the way yogurts played down the stretch, hitting that Big three bullying a D in the Post that, you know at the end of the game and ridiculous.
00:07:34
He had that ridiculous tipping and I was just like, Yeah, all right, there's some crazy shots going in now.
00:07:40
Even the three hit I think shack.
00:07:42
Sit down the pregame where somebody said on the pre game on TNT that was the only three he made the whole night and It was ridiculous, turnaround baseline and Caruso's like practically on his back.
00:07:53
And I was just like, How did he make this shot? But you know, God, God, no.
00:07:57
It's just I want to see how they look in the first quarter of the Nuggets.
00:08:01
Like E.
00:08:02
Think they could come out of a little bit flat.
00:08:04
And if they are, the Lakers need to take advantage.
00:08:08
Like I thought I thought in Game two.
00:08:09
LeBron carried the Lakers in the first half like he was on fire.
00:08:13
But in the second half, especially in the fourth quarter, like he slipped a couple of times in the paint, turned the ball over. He had that Air Ball three.
00:08:20
He clearly was kind of out of it a bit in the second half.
00:08:23
But if Denver comes out and they're struggling, the Lakers can't play around.
00:08:28
They absolutely have just knocked them out.
00:08:30
Yeah, one of the things like I looked at when they ran that zone defense.
00:08:34
Um, in the fourth quarter, it was mainly in the second half.
00:08:36
They run it, Um, but that zone defense that they ran the second half the Lakers, actually, we're getting to the like the middle of that zone, and they're kicking it out for wide open guys.
00:08:45
The Lakers just didn't hit their shots like, and a lot of it was that sort of stuff.
00:08:50
And I think the Lakers, I mean, just kind of looking at the tape in, like the quality of the shot selection.
00:08:55
If the quality of shots that they were getting were great, like wide open toe open look or very late close out, they just didn't make them.
00:09:04
And, um, I think what may end up happening is that I if I was the coach, thinking, getting inside Vogel's brain, I'm thinking to myself that maybe Vogel told him, Just keep doing this.
00:09:17
Just keep going, stay disciplined, don't rush.
00:09:19
You don't have to get the shot directly at the room, but just collapse that zone.
00:09:23
Make all five guys that are around you on the Denver defense have to adjust or help or whatever it is.
00:09:28
Find the open guy and the Open got to shoot it with confidence and I think that I think we'll see if if Denver gets in trouble.
00:09:37
Um, they're gonna roll that zone out early.
00:09:40
They don't want to because it puts a lot of pressure on, like Yokich to have to defend the rim and have to run all over the court, so they don't wanna do that.
00:09:46
But, um, if they do that, I expect the Lakers to be ready this time.
00:09:51
You'll see, like LeBron in the middle of the zone and Rondo in the middle zone, like kind of being like that.
00:09:56
Skip Pastor, that decision for the team.
00:09:58
Um, I'm on the same boat as you.
00:10:01
So Murray is a young guy, but he also played 44 minutes.
00:10:05
Uh, in that last game, Did you see that ridiculous plus minus? Yeah, and that's That's definitely a little flawed it's not.
00:10:14
They weren't beating the Lakers by plus 16 in the four minutes.
00:10:17
Ah, a lot of people read it like, Oh, if they only play better those four minutes, they would have beaten like No, that's not what that means.
00:10:23
What that means is, for the 44 minutes he was on the court, they had to play.
00:10:26
They had to play like up to this toe to remove the deficit or something like that.
00:10:29
So anyways, um, that I don't know if it affects his legs is fatigue and stuff like that.
00:10:35
But I thought that Denver got it felt like Denver made a lot of really tightly contested shots that last game, to like some of those Michael Porter Jr shots that he took like he had, like people d****d all over him and promising him for making it.
00:10:50
But those were not easy shots to make.
00:10:52
And my like personal philosophy has always been, if on this is something I've seen, like in the Celtics Heat, Siri's is that the Heat do a really, really great job of forcing you to take contested shots, not at the Rambla jumpers.
00:11:08
The Celtics don't do as good of a job, but they do a good job.
00:11:12
But usually, if you can make the other team take much more contested shots or take like poor quality, you know, shots, then you dio you're probably gonna win that game.
00:11:22
And I thought the Lakers did that up until the second half, where they just started.
00:11:26
You know, they went ice cold, Um, and in the second half, remember, I pulled this, that Anthony Davis went like eight of 14 on his on his scoring in general and the rest of Lakers went eight of 27.
00:11:38
So that number in general is bad, right? But when you look deeper into those 27 shots, UH, 17 of the 27 shots that the Lakers attempted in the second half, non Anthony Davis shots or threes and that's in and they only shot like three for 17 or something like that from three.
00:11:55
So that's an enormous amount of threes to miss in the second half.
00:11:59
If they make, maybe, let's say, another 30% of those shots.
00:12:02
Lakers were probably winning that game by double digits, and so it's kind of that kind of stuff that you kind of look in between like the lines and this props the Nuggets for keeping the pressure on the Lakers and stuff like that when it comes like when it comes to stuff like that.
00:12:14
But it, um, I the Siri's trend has been, and from from the LeBron folks that I've talked to, Game three is where LeBron is like all right, I we did what we did.
00:12:26
I've seen everything that you guys have to offer.
00:12:29
Now it's my turn toe like take over the game.
00:12:31
So I wonder if we get, um, a really good LeBron game.
00:12:34
Uh, this game, either.
00:12:35
It's it may not, may not necessarily be by scoring.
00:12:39
It made him facilitating guys once he draws the double team and stuff like that.
00:12:43
So, um, but I think we'll get a very a a less turnovers, more productive version off LeBron this game.
00:12:52
Um, because he takes those things personally like it seems like when he has a bad game, he's really hard on himself.
00:12:57
And so I don't know if you saw that clip of as we're walking back to the tunnel and anti Davis like I thought was really cool anti Davis says that, you know, like I got your back and you got mine.
00:13:07
I thought that was really like That was when I heard that that's when I was like for a second, I thought to myself, Uh, I was like, Oh, you know what? I bet anti Davis realized Brown was having a bad second half.
00:13:18
But he's like, I just give me the ball like, let me let me do what I can to help us win, and that's energy is important.
00:13:24
You know, it's great for the lake of fence to be able to see that.
00:13:27
Um and I'm just happy that they have that kind of teammate, uh, chemistry or relationship or friendship, whatever you wanna call it.
00:13:38
Well, the camaraderie on the team has showed all season.
00:13:41
I mean, that that's something that I think, you know, the national media, the bloggers, whoever, like I think they ignored that.
00:13:46
And they, you know, other teams around the league kind of, you know, through a roster together.
00:13:50
And just because they had talent, it was assumed that they would be good.
00:13:53
And this Lakers team not only had talent but clearly built camaraderie right along with the coaching staff ownership.
00:14:00
Everybody was locked, lock and step along the way.
00:14:03
I think you're you're gonna Seymour aggressive.
00:14:05
Um, LeBron tonight.
00:14:07
But I thought in game two there were a lot of charges they called on them.
00:14:10
You know, I thought eso you remember how they got Really? All the Nuggets key players in foul trouble in Game two that none of that happened again.
00:14:18
None of that happened in game Game one, but none that happened in game two, right? Like all the stuff the white did.
00:14:23
It didn't work, right? It actually went the other way.
00:14:25
This sent, uh, had do. I had four.
00:14:28
No, Sorry Do.
00:14:29
I had five fouls in 12 minutes of play and he was like, Plus 10.
00:14:35
So that's crazy.
00:14:36
12 men to play your plus 10. That's great.
00:14:38
But then you drop five fouls or four fouls and then I think javale had four and or Davis had four.
00:14:43
And javale has, like, a whole bunch like it went.
00:14:45
Yeah, I agree.
00:14:46
Completely flipped the other way.
00:14:48
But then also like the Nuggets, I think they shot like 33 free throws.
00:14:51
The Lakers only shot 19 but one of the things I've noticed this off this, uh, playoff season is that Lakers when they shoot like they shot 18 of 19 I think so.
00:15:01
They hit their free throws and they're you know, they're not a great free throw shooting team, But there's been a few games in the playoffs where they needed to hit, you know, a good clip of their free throws to win these games.
00:15:10
And that was a game.
00:15:11
Where had they shot 60 or 70% like they did in the regular season.
00:15:15
We lose that game, maybe by 10 points, and so those free throws were important.
00:15:19
But I think you're going to see an engaged LeBron tonight.
00:15:21
I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if he comes out and has, you know, a triple double or something like that.
00:15:26
It doesn't have to be a 30 or 40 point triple double, but I think he's gonna be very engaged.
00:15:29
I wouldn't be surprised A D goes for 30 and 10.
00:15:32
I mean, he's going for 30 and 10 all playoffs, Really? But let me let me tell you something, all right? Uh, a D in the playoffs.
00:15:39
Alright, for anybody that has a look.
00:15:41
First of all, he's only playing 35 minutes a game, which is like, basically his regular season minutes.
00:15:45
So this means that he's taking an entire quarter off.
00:15:48
Okay, he's not even playing a full quarter.
00:15:50
He's shooting 57% overall while shooting 40% from three.
00:15:56
His free throw shooting is come down.
00:15:58
He's at about like 78% but that's you know that's okay.
00:16:01
It's still respectable, and he's obviously got grabbing 10 boards forces, and he's got a steal in a block again that, um, those are numbers that are like shock esque numbers.
00:16:16
And, um, you know, I know that we don't, uh, one of things I hate doing or I try not to do is to compare guys in our current air because it is different areas of basketball.
00:16:26
It's more spacing, all that kind of stuff.
00:16:27
But anti Davis is playing.
00:16:29
I mean, I think that everybody can agree.
00:16:31
Like anti, Davis and LeBron are playing in an offense that doesn't necessarily optimized for space.
00:16:35
Some of that.
00:16:36
Some of that's their own fault, because Davis won't play that the center as much as we'd like.
00:16:41
But the fact that they're able to that the fact that Davis is shooting the way he is So in this in these kind of lineups with the second big there, or with a guy like Rondo, who's not known as known to be a shooter, Um on even next to LeBron, who's not necessarily amazing three point shooter but has his moments and stuff like that from time to time.
00:17:01
That kind of says something like like when I think about what Davis is doing right now and I think There's something.
00:17:07
What, What would happen if the Lakers actually play them in like an optimized offense? His numbers would be like video game numbers.
00:17:12
Hey, would have.
00:17:14
It would be pretty crazy and the fact that he's doing it and he's being expected to defend to some degree what I would say, probably one of the most skilled or if not the most skilled big man in the league.
00:17:26
In Yokich, it tells you something.
00:17:29
Yoga just hitting tremendous shots.
00:17:31
He could set up his teammates.
00:17:32
He's not the defender that, like maybe Anthony Davis is.
00:17:35
But he puts so much pressure on your defense that if you make even, you know you can.
00:17:40
If you rotate slightly in the wrong direction.
00:17:42
We've seen how you picture defense apart, Um, and so, like, he's having an unreal run, and I'm not going to jinx him by by crowning him anything just yet, because I want them to win the championship.
00:17:55
I'm too superstitious of a guy, But, um, if the Lakers win a championship, whether or not he gets the files EVP or not, that stuff doesn't matter to me.
00:18:03
We're gonna have to discuss this scoring run that he's been on as compared to, like, scoring runs.
00:18:09
Like what? What dirt did in 2011 where he was like hitting game winners and he was like practically unguardable And like Davis is in that territory right now where you can't press him because he'll drive by you.
00:18:21
You can't lay off of them because you're just gonna shoot those jumpers over you, and we're very much in that territory right now.
00:18:27
But, you know, obviously we'll wait and see if the Lakers win the championship.
00:18:30
Thio have that conversation.
00:18:32
But look, man, he's been great thes two games in this series.
00:18:36
He's been tremendous.
00:18:37
He's leading all, um, all scores.
00:18:40
Right now, he's averaging 30 for a game, Uh, right now against Denver and of all the other players in the conference finals there, only averaging 25 almost the whole 10 points more than the next guy, which is your kitchen in Tatum, right? He's been He's been incredible, man.
00:18:56
I'm so glad I'm not going to disparage the guys that we traded to get him because I love that.
00:19:02
I love those guys, too, but like we get it now, like I hope Laker fans understand, Like what, what he's doing and what he's bringing to the league or to the scene S.
00:19:12
O.
00:19:13
I think the thing is that, you know, you and I, we talked about it a lot with those young guys that we had the trade like it.
00:19:19
They probably needed to go to other situations.
00:19:21
E Just think l A might not have been the best place for a number of different reasons.
00:19:25
And I think for Anthony Davis people throw around the term generational talent, and I think it's important to remember that someone could be a generational talent, but not necessarily get all the generational accolades, right.
00:19:39
Like everybody can't win five championships.
00:19:40
There's a number of reasons why they can't.
00:19:43
Anthony Davis is absolutely a generational talent Now, whether or not he gets the championships MBPs, all that stuff is another conversation.
00:19:50
But we have an opportunity to get one of those guys.
00:19:54
You have to go get that guy almost at all costs.
00:19:57
And what the Lakers have done, basically, throughout their entirety of the franchise, is when that guy has been available.
00:20:03
They went and got that guy shock Karim will.
00:20:08
I mean, just in terms of the Big Mint and Pau Gasol man who? I don't think it's nearly the credit he deserves.
00:20:14
The Pau Gasol might not have been a generational talent, but he fit.
00:20:19
He fits what it is that the Lakers needed, and I think, um, not that hijack your point, but like the thing, the thing that I think Lakers fans probably understand better than maybe some other fans, too, because because the way free agency moves and stuff like that.
00:20:33
Um, but fit is so important when it comes to this not just like Onley personality fit but like skill, fit and decision making fit.
00:20:42
And there's so many small things that go along with that you can have a coach that's maybe not the best coach in the league or like this.
00:20:49
He's not a Gregg Popovich to your coach or something like that, but because he understands how pieces fit together within a scheme and how players fit together within a scheme like what it can do, like how it can amplify certain things.
00:21:02
Um, when it comes to when it comes to basketball, cause that's that's what makes basketball great.
00:21:06
You know, it's that you can get a guy who's just a specialist.
00:21:10
But you put him next to these two other guys where they have like they don't have like a big, gaping hole in that skill set, but because he's there, he makes, he makes them.
00:21:19
He he makes you know he feels a gap, and he makes them better at the same time.
00:21:23
And so, like, that's the thing that, like, I feel like we've got with this Lakers team and, um, you know, and I'll say this Before the season started, there was a lot of conversations when it came to our Los Angeles neighbors as to what is How do you stack these lineups? Thes guys were just more talented on the roster, and that may have been true.
00:21:44
Um, but I also remember there was a time where Laker fans were consistently telling people the fit has toe work.
00:21:50
It has to work like these guys have to work together.
00:21:53
And we were being told as Laker fans that well, you guys radius.
00:21:56
There's just so much talent here that it's just not gonna work and I wonder if some of that happened because of Durant going to the Warriors and him.
00:22:03
Just, you know, them just kind of overwhelming the entire league with how good they were.
00:22:07
But there was a fit part of Durant's team.
00:22:10
Absolutely fit.
00:22:11
Yeah, it Yeah, and so there's no.
00:22:15
And it worked because Steph is a, you know, for all intensive, but he's a selfless guy.
00:22:20
Hey, doesn't seem like he he'll demand shots.
00:22:23
Um, Clay doesn't demand shots, and they're also the best.
00:22:25
Like they're the two greatest shooters of all time, both on ball and off ball.
00:22:29
So you can.
00:22:30
They'll fit anywhere.
00:22:31
Um, and I think people got into like this.
00:22:34
The n b A audience has gotten into this mode where they think to themselves that like, Oh, you could just add these two guys together and voila, it fits And, you know, obviously the Clippers got bounced early, and so they've now got to deal with all the nonsense that they have to deal with, um, about Paul, George and all that's her stuff and how their teammates feel about the rest of the roster on Doc Rivers.
00:22:56
But the Lakers prioritized fit.
00:22:58
They said these were the two guys that we have.
00:23:00
We need guys that can fit in with these guys who aren't going to complain about shots.
00:23:05
And we see guys like Kuzma, um who you know, he had a starting role.
00:23:11
He was a very productive players first two years.
00:23:14
He had some slippage his second year, and he has some slippage this year because of his injuries.
00:23:19
But he's bought into that and credit to guys like Jared Dudley and stuff like that who have kind of, like help keep the mentality in the right place.
00:23:27
But they've even added guys like Mark Keith Morris at the deadline who just fit, and that's the thing that makes that makes this game this team so good.
00:23:35
Um, and you know, another guy.
00:23:37
Caruso is another perfect example of another guy.
00:23:39
That's that's like that.
00:23:40
Just do what we're asking you do and just trust your teammates, and we'll trust you, and we can be successful.
00:23:45
So we've talked before about how many parallels are between this team and then the 09 team.
00:23:50
And, um, even the threepeat Lakers how Rick Fox and Fisher and all these guys Yeah, Ron Harper.
00:23:58
Yeah, e.
00:24:01
I wanted to add on to your point about fit right because for for what? So the Lakers won five championships over the last 20 years.
00:24:08
The Spurs won five over the last 20 years, but with the Spurs, all we heard was culture right with the Lakers.
00:24:13
It was what we won because we had talent.
00:24:14
It was L.
00:24:15
A.
00:24:16
And blah, blah, blah right? Not only did the Lakers prioritize, prioritize, fit, they prioritize culture, right? So when when DaMarcus got hurt, they didn't just throw him to the Wolves and get rid of him, You know, when they had to let go of them, they still kept him around the franchise, right? Like even when they brought Dion in there.
00:24:32
He's been injured.
00:24:34
I know he's getting up shots tonight, but there's been no issues with Dion, the issues he had in Miami.
00:24:39
No issues there. They brought J. R.
00:24:41
Smith and no issues with J.
00:24:42
R.
00:24:43
Smith, right? Like there's been no mention of the Lakers culture yet.
00:24:47
Clearly, there is a great culture.
00:24:49
They brought Jason Kidd and nobody wanted Jason Kidd to be a coach.
00:24:53
There's no issues with Jason Kidd backstabbing or anything, so they got the culture right and then my final point was Frank Vogel.
00:25:01
So that final play, whatever he was going to go with, Rondo asked, Can he go in, give a lot of credit to Vogel, saying Okay, I trust you.
00:25:11
I'm gonna put you in an inbound that ball.
00:25:13
How many coaches do you think would have said No? I'm gonna do what I want to dio No, for I I agree that that is, That's it. I don't even think of that.
00:25:21
That's a great point.
00:25:22
Like in That's like a split second decision.
00:25:25
It's not like he has a minutes or a time out to make that decision.
00:25:27
He's just like, all right, this is what we're doing.
00:25:29
Um, even even I'm trying to remember there was one sequence.
00:25:34
I think it's right before KCP.
00:25:35
It's that that contested three.
00:25:36
Where he pulled.
00:25:37
I want to say he pulled Danny Green out for KCP or he made a substitution.
00:25:42
That and and then the guy that subbed in was the one who hit the three.
00:25:45
And I was just like, wow, like that could have been somebody else in that spot.
00:25:48
If he doesn't make that read or that substitution And he was, I think he was doing like that offense defense thing.
00:25:53
Uh, that's why he was doing that.
00:25:54
And no, man your point. Exactly.
00:25:57
Right.
00:25:58
And then you take that one step further and then you hear LeBron talk about who the play was supposed to go to and then here, anti David say the same thing and, you know, and then I think Worldwide blob or whatever he showed that footage of Who is it? Jeremy Grant telling Plumlee to come help because they don't want LeBron to back cut for that drive.
00:26:16
And it's like I was watching it.
00:26:18
And then I will rewatch a couple of the replace.
00:26:19
I'm like, Alright, do I see LeBron motion to Rondo like a like A T is gonna be open or do a c a d motion something.
00:26:26
And granted, you know, this is a set play, but the fact that they could basically ad lib that to some degree and for you know, obviously 80 has to hit that shot for it to be successful.
00:26:35
But for them to be able to ad lib it and never, never make that clear that that that's what was going to happen because I was watching LeBron.
00:26:42
I was like, Wow, like he's not even gonna move like where they're throwing this No, until until.
00:26:47
Until Davis, you know, like, makes that curl and he's wide open and you know it's but that's basketball I Q.
00:26:53
Right like that. That's no.
00:26:55
Rondo doesn't have a lot of his ability anymore.
00:26:57
But that mhm when you're in bounder, is one of the best pastors of all time, one of the brightest basketball minds of all time and two guys that he's going to throw the ball to either LeBron James or Anthony Davis.
00:27:07
They can make that I contact he's got.
00:27:09
He has that report with e.
00:27:11
I mean, that was for all that to happen that quickly have to make that decision to put Rondo in and LeBron Dah, to maybe hear the play that that the defense is gonna run and, like, decided not to move.
00:27:22
For all that to happen in a split second, think about the nuance like these are the things that you know, like as when you play basketball, you understand? But think about the nuance.
00:27:33
He has Yokich on him on that baseline.
00:27:35
He's defending that past yoga, just jumping up in here because he doesn't want to throw it over the top right, because that's usually what happens.
00:27:41
It gets thrown over the top on, and then and then somebody goes right for a score.
00:27:46
So Rondo also had the wherewithal, and Davis was ready that Rondo throws a bounce pass, which buys because you're contractually did it great.
00:27:56
Close up by yoga.
00:27:57
But it's just enough time for Anthony Davis to get that shot off, Catch it, get the shot off without Yokich coming, like on a late contestant blocking it on.
00:28:06
And Yokich is a big guy, so he's gonna He's gonna close the distance.
00:28:09
Like when you think when you reflect back and you think about all the small things that have to go right for that play to be successful, that doesn't happen just on on on an Excel file with the names of the players and what status they have, that just doesn't happen.
00:28:22
It only happens if your teammates are in it with you.
00:28:25
They understand the situation.
00:28:27
They've rehe****d it, and they just trust each other right, because Rana could have gone anywhere with that, he could have the force a contested past LeBron, too.
00:28:34
But he went with what it was, and I think the story came out.
00:28:38
Um, afterwards, where Davis said, We're I think David said that he was like, frustrated after Yokich scored on him in the post to take the lead or whatever.
00:28:48
And Rondo was the one who told him, Well, then just go get him back and you know, obviously the rest is history, but, um, it was it was a great game to watch.
00:28:58
It was a little bit too much of a rollercoaster for me as a Lakers fan, obviously, because we don't wanna be blowing huge leads.
00:29:02
But, um, it's it's for any Laker fans that aren't old enough to remember what Shaq and Kobe's.
00:29:13
And I think, um, Pete later, film room.
00:29:15
He mentioned it, um, he these roller coaster of emotions, this adversity that this team is facing, not just from the media, but just on the court, because these are good teams that they're playing.
00:29:28
This is what it was like.
00:29:30
This is like the Lakers went into games down 15 points in the fourth quarter and had to make these crazy comebacks.
00:29:37
Shaq and Kobe were not rolling teams.
00:29:40
They would roll the Eastern Conference finals opponent because there's a huge gap in talent between those two things.
00:29:44
But this is what Laker basketball is like.
00:29:48
Some teams will roll them some games.
00:29:49
Some teams we won't.
00:29:50
But when it comes to like these moments where we have Thio grind it out for an ugly win and maybe it's a game winner, maybe it isn't Lakers come through, and I'm just glad that the Anthony Davis was the guy to do it, because I do believe that he's a really, really great player, and I think he is much better and much closer to the very, very best players in the league.
00:30:13
And, uh, I'm gonna wait before I start pushing that campaign until after they win the championship.
00:30:17
But I'm very proud of Anthony Davis, a very proud of this team, for for fighting back and sticking together.
00:30:22
Andi, I'm just I'm just excited for Game three.
00:30:25
I am too.
00:30:26
Well, let's get to it.
00:30:27
We got a few minutes, so let's get to Game three and and let's see if we get this Lakers win tonight.
00:30:31
So today is always man, Thanks for coming on.
00:30:33
Uh, of course, Alex, Hopefully we'll be tweeting about a Laker win. Afterwards.
00:30:38
We will
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Livestream.
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We're doing a little pregame show here for Game three, the Western Conference finals.
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I know Lakers Lakers fan bases excited off of that huge Anthony Davis buzzer beater from another night.
00:00:11
But we gotta be ready for Game three, man.
00:00:14
What's going on in a How you feeling, man? I am feeling good, uh, still very, very happy with that performance that Anthony Davis had.
00:00:24
I'm glad that he's gotten his opportunity.
00:00:26
Thio kind of make a name for himself with his fourth quarter heroics in game two and like, um, like, kind of, you know, like that's gonna go into, like, Laker lower in history, like And so I'm just so glad that he was able to do that because things were getting really tight, uh, down the stretch for the Lakers.
00:00:49
So what were your what were your thoughts like, What did you think when he made that shot? I mean, I was in my ba*****t, my wife and I, we were downstairs watching it and like we went down a point.
00:01:01
And I was just thinking Yokich was amazing down the stretch.
00:01:05
And but a D was amazing down the stretch also, and I didn't know what the Lakers were gonna draw up, but they draw that play up.
00:01:12
Rondo inbounds the ball and LeBron sets a pick non pick, whatever the hell it was, and 80 comes off a curl and gets opening.
00:01:22
I mean, honestly, man, he drains it like he was like Kevin Durant or somebody at his size.
00:01:27
They hit that three and it and like I was standing up and here's the shot and I like, I yell, dropped to my knees and I like slam my hands on the floor and my wife like she's on the couch behind me.
00:01:41
She gets up and she's screaming and like, What was great about it for me was that I've had all these like, game winning moments with the Lakers that my wife actually has an experience with me.
00:01:50
Um, many of them were doing the Shaq Kobe era when her and I didn't know each other, right, And you know, there's a handful during, you know, the Kobe Pau era, but like she wasn't she was with me at the tail end when they won their final championship like this was like the one game winner that we were both together in the same room and like, it was nuts that she went nuts too.
00:02:11
But I couldn't have written it up better, man.
00:02:15
I mean, I don't want it to come down to a game winner, but yeah, for sure, we don't wait by, but you gotta give props.
00:02:22
Toe the nuggets, man.
00:02:23
They're not gonna go down without a fight in any game.
00:02:26
No, they're not.
00:02:27
I mean, I actually felt really good for Anthony Davis, like all the talk about him when he wanted to leave New Orleans and people were saying, Well, he can't lead a team, He's soft, He's this.
00:02:35
He's that he can't handle the bright lights, right, All that stuff.
00:02:38
And you know, the biggest opportunity, the biggest stage.
00:02:43
He's the one that gets the ball.
00:02:45
He's the one.
00:02:46
Basically, he's willing us in that game down the stretch, and he hits that game winner.
00:02:50
And it was just like now he he can handle L.
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A.
00:02:54
He's performed the entire playoffs.
00:02:56
I mean, I was just so happy that he hit that shot and I'm like, were you know what? We're in good shape, post LeBron like.
00:03:04
That's that's kind of how I felt after that.
00:03:06
I know we are, no matter what.
00:03:08
Like that shot was like, we'll be all right, Post, LeBron.
00:03:11
Yeah, I I agree.
00:03:12
I think I think, um, aside from just being happy for him as a player, especially considering all the stuff that people were saying about him Is this guy really it out like, Ah, Laker, like the next Laker.
00:03:23
Great big man.
00:03:24
Um, whatever.
00:03:26
Whatever it is, I was happy for him just as a player.
00:03:29
Thio, just find some success? Um, I think so.
00:03:33
I was in the same situation.
00:03:34
I was in the same situation my wife and my daughter were actually eating downstairs on I was watching the game in the office.
00:03:39
So my wife watches a couple of games with me, but she won't watch too many.
00:03:43
We had a situation where one time the game was really close, and she started asking me a bunch of questions that I just, like turned to look at.
00:03:49
I said, Look, you can't talk to me right now, and I don't need this like I don't want to be mean to you, but I need to pay attention to this, but I can't answer it.
00:03:56
It's like being in a movie.
00:03:58
And you like, Look, I can't explain this to you right now because there's something happening on the screen.
00:04:01
So, uh, after that, I think she kind of understood, like, kind of how I watch these games and like, how intense intensity.
00:04:08
I'm like focusing on stuff or whatever, but one of the things that, uh, I didn't drop to my knees, but I definitely got up and started punching the air a lot like in, like, you know, just like, you know, finally, that we had that moment.
00:04:23
Um, I'm actually kind of glad that the Lakers blew that lead because I feel like maybe they got caught into a little bit of like, ah, false sense of security.
00:04:30
We had a big blowout in game one, So, um, even though it didn't end up in a loss, it definitely was a punch in the face sort of response by the Nuggets.
00:04:39
And I thought the Lakers played very like LeBron played uncharacteristically bad, like, really, like, surprisingly bad in the second half.
00:04:47
And, uh and that's I mean, sometimes you get duds like that and he and that's not That's just the second half the first half of this sensational.
00:04:57
But obviously it's pretty clear.
00:04:58
On the second half, Denver was like, We can't let LeBron get to the rim on And I think like the Reps calling a couple charges on him kind of like made him like think twice like all right, you know, because obviously doesn't want toe turnovers and stuff like that.
00:05:10
And then the fact that Denver was like in the bonus for, like, the last six minutes of, like, the fourth like that makes things a little bit difficult when you're attacking the room and stuff I got.
00:05:18
So I'm really happy that the Lakers won.
00:05:21
I'm really happy for Andy Davis.
00:05:23
I'm really happy that the Lakers pulled that went out because, um, you know you wanna win him no matter what, And, uh, or how it looks, Uh, what do you think is? What do you think? How do you think they respond? My my big thing has been like Rondo.
00:05:38
And so they had, like 23 turnovers, 24 turnovers last game.
00:05:41
Ron had six and Rondo had five.
00:05:44
And knowing that kind of competitors, those two guys are like my thing has been you're going to get, like, a very knock on wood.
00:05:50
You're gonna get, like, a very sharp LeBron in a very sharp rondo, uh, this game as, like a bounce back game.
00:05:56
I think Vogel's telling them like, Hey, we dodged a bullet here like we played really, really bad.
00:06:02
Um, and we can't do that against a team like this.
00:06:05
You mentioned it when we talked before last game.
00:06:08
Like we were probably gonna get the Nuggets best shot.
00:06:10
And Yokich played like a monster.
00:06:13
Like I love, say, like I love like, there's a generation of fans, man, that don't get to see, like, the Big Man battle, right? Like we got the theater like a D and Yokich.
00:06:23
They were battling.
00:06:24
So Yokich was nasty.
00:06:26
Jamal Murray.
00:06:27
He played well, um, Michael Porter Jr.
00:06:31
He played well.
00:06:32
Also, there was a There was a few plays where I was like Porter Jr was hitting his, you know, he was in his bag a little bit, and I felt like Kuzma was tryingto do this thing a little.
00:06:43
Yeah, I was, like, just back off, man, like, you know, but yeah, I thought we got Denver's best shot like and so I feel like losing on a game winner like that that could either be completely deflating and they could just be like they could come out tonight and lay a dud like Look, man, they came back against Utah.
00:07:03
They came back against the Clippers, and that takes a huge amount of energy to keep doing that.
00:07:09
Siri's after Siri's and to have a game last night where you want to go 1120 r o to LeBron LeBron's.
00:07:18
Teams have never lost when they've been up to Oh, right, Like I just saw that Yeah, when they go to any serious at all.
00:07:25
So I mean, in that moment, like the way yogurts played down the stretch, hitting that Big three bullying a D in the Post that, you know at the end of the game and ridiculous.
00:07:34
He had that ridiculous tipping and I was just like, Yeah, all right, there's some crazy shots going in now.
00:07:40
Even the three hit I think shack.
00:07:42
Sit down the pregame where somebody said on the pre game on TNT that was the only three he made the whole night and It was ridiculous, turnaround baseline and Caruso's like practically on his back.
00:07:53
And I was just like, How did he make this shot? But you know, God, God, no.
00:07:57
It's just I want to see how they look in the first quarter of the Nuggets.
00:08:01
Like E.
00:08:02
Think they could come out of a little bit flat.
00:08:04
And if they are, the Lakers need to take advantage.
00:08:08
Like I thought I thought in Game two.
00:08:09
LeBron carried the Lakers in the first half like he was on fire.
00:08:13
But in the second half, especially in the fourth quarter, like he slipped a couple of times in the paint, turned the ball over. He had that Air Ball three.
00:08:20
He clearly was kind of out of it a bit in the second half.
00:08:23
But if Denver comes out and they're struggling, the Lakers can't play around.
00:08:28
They absolutely have just knocked them out.
00:08:30
Yeah, one of the things like I looked at when they ran that zone defense.
00:08:34
Um, in the fourth quarter, it was mainly in the second half.
00:08:36
They run it, Um, but that zone defense that they ran the second half the Lakers, actually, we're getting to the like the middle of that zone, and they're kicking it out for wide open guys.
00:08:45
The Lakers just didn't hit their shots like, and a lot of it was that sort of stuff.
00:08:50
And I think the Lakers, I mean, just kind of looking at the tape in, like the quality of the shot selection.
00:08:55
If the quality of shots that they were getting were great, like wide open toe open look or very late close out, they just didn't make them.
00:09:04
And, um, I think what may end up happening is that I if I was the coach, thinking, getting inside Vogel's brain, I'm thinking to myself that maybe Vogel told him, Just keep doing this.
00:09:17
Just keep going, stay disciplined, don't rush.
00:09:19
You don't have to get the shot directly at the room, but just collapse that zone.
00:09:23
Make all five guys that are around you on the Denver defense have to adjust or help or whatever it is.
00:09:28
Find the open guy and the Open got to shoot it with confidence and I think that I think we'll see if if Denver gets in trouble.
00:09:37
Um, they're gonna roll that zone out early.
00:09:40
They don't want to because it puts a lot of pressure on, like Yokich to have to defend the rim and have to run all over the court, so they don't wanna do that.
00:09:46
But, um, if they do that, I expect the Lakers to be ready this time.
00:09:51
You'll see, like LeBron in the middle of the zone and Rondo in the middle zone, like kind of being like that.
00:09:56
Skip Pastor, that decision for the team.
00:09:58
Um, I'm on the same boat as you.
00:10:01
So Murray is a young guy, but he also played 44 minutes.
00:10:05
Uh, in that last game, Did you see that ridiculous plus minus? Yeah, and that's That's definitely a little flawed it's not.
00:10:14
They weren't beating the Lakers by plus 16 in the four minutes.
00:10:17
Ah, a lot of people read it like, Oh, if they only play better those four minutes, they would have beaten like No, that's not what that means.
00:10:23
What that means is, for the 44 minutes he was on the court, they had to play.
00:10:26
They had to play like up to this toe to remove the deficit or something like that.
00:10:29
So anyways, um, that I don't know if it affects his legs is fatigue and stuff like that.
00:10:35
But I thought that Denver got it felt like Denver made a lot of really tightly contested shots that last game, to like some of those Michael Porter Jr shots that he took like he had, like people d****d all over him and promising him for making it.
00:10:50
But those were not easy shots to make.
00:10:52
And my like personal philosophy has always been, if on this is something I've seen, like in the Celtics Heat, Siri's is that the Heat do a really, really great job of forcing you to take contested shots, not at the Rambla jumpers.
00:11:08
The Celtics don't do as good of a job, but they do a good job.
00:11:12
But usually, if you can make the other team take much more contested shots or take like poor quality, you know, shots, then you dio you're probably gonna win that game.
00:11:22
And I thought the Lakers did that up until the second half, where they just started.
00:11:26
You know, they went ice cold, Um, and in the second half, remember, I pulled this, that Anthony Davis went like eight of 14 on his on his scoring in general and the rest of Lakers went eight of 27.
00:11:38
So that number in general is bad, right? But when you look deeper into those 27 shots, UH, 17 of the 27 shots that the Lakers attempted in the second half, non Anthony Davis shots or threes and that's in and they only shot like three for 17 or something like that from three.
00:11:55
So that's an enormous amount of threes to miss in the second half.
00:11:59
If they make, maybe, let's say, another 30% of those shots.
00:12:02
Lakers were probably winning that game by double digits, and so it's kind of that kind of stuff that you kind of look in between like the lines and this props the Nuggets for keeping the pressure on the Lakers and stuff like that when it comes like when it comes to stuff like that.
00:12:14
But it, um, I the Siri's trend has been, and from from the LeBron folks that I've talked to, Game three is where LeBron is like all right, I we did what we did.
00:12:26
I've seen everything that you guys have to offer.
00:12:29
Now it's my turn toe like take over the game.
00:12:31
So I wonder if we get, um, a really good LeBron game.
00:12:34
Uh, this game, either.
00:12:35
It's it may not, may not necessarily be by scoring.
00:12:39
It made him facilitating guys once he draws the double team and stuff like that.
00:12:43
So, um, but I think we'll get a very a a less turnovers, more productive version off LeBron this game.
00:12:52
Um, because he takes those things personally like it seems like when he has a bad game, he's really hard on himself.
00:12:57
And so I don't know if you saw that clip of as we're walking back to the tunnel and anti Davis like I thought was really cool anti Davis says that, you know, like I got your back and you got mine.
00:13:07
I thought that was really like That was when I heard that that's when I was like for a second, I thought to myself, Uh, I was like, Oh, you know what? I bet anti Davis realized Brown was having a bad second half.
00:13:18
But he's like, I just give me the ball like, let me let me do what I can to help us win, and that's energy is important.
00:13:24
You know, it's great for the lake of fence to be able to see that.
00:13:27
Um and I'm just happy that they have that kind of teammate, uh, chemistry or relationship or friendship, whatever you wanna call it.
00:13:38
Well, the camaraderie on the team has showed all season.
00:13:41
I mean, that that's something that I think, you know, the national media, the bloggers, whoever, like I think they ignored that.
00:13:46
And they, you know, other teams around the league kind of, you know, through a roster together.
00:13:50
And just because they had talent, it was assumed that they would be good.
00:13:53
And this Lakers team not only had talent but clearly built camaraderie right along with the coaching staff ownership.
00:14:00
Everybody was locked, lock and step along the way.
00:14:03
I think you're you're gonna Seymour aggressive.
00:14:05
Um, LeBron tonight.
00:14:07
But I thought in game two there were a lot of charges they called on them.
00:14:10
You know, I thought eso you remember how they got Really? All the Nuggets key players in foul trouble in Game two that none of that happened again.
00:14:18
None of that happened in game Game one, but none that happened in game two, right? Like all the stuff the white did.
00:14:23
It didn't work, right? It actually went the other way.
00:14:25
This sent, uh, had do. I had four.
00:14:28
No, Sorry Do.
00:14:29
I had five fouls in 12 minutes of play and he was like, Plus 10.
00:14:35
So that's crazy.
00:14:36
12 men to play your plus 10. That's great.
00:14:38
But then you drop five fouls or four fouls and then I think javale had four and or Davis had four.
00:14:43
And javale has, like, a whole bunch like it went.
00:14:45
Yeah, I agree.
00:14:46
Completely flipped the other way.
00:14:48
But then also like the Nuggets, I think they shot like 33 free throws.
00:14:51
The Lakers only shot 19 but one of the things I've noticed this off this, uh, playoff season is that Lakers when they shoot like they shot 18 of 19 I think so.
00:15:01
They hit their free throws and they're you know, they're not a great free throw shooting team, But there's been a few games in the playoffs where they needed to hit, you know, a good clip of their free throws to win these games.
00:15:10
And that was a game.
00:15:11
Where had they shot 60 or 70% like they did in the regular season.
00:15:15
We lose that game, maybe by 10 points, and so those free throws were important.
00:15:19
But I think you're going to see an engaged LeBron tonight.
00:15:21
I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if he comes out and has, you know, a triple double or something like that.
00:15:26
It doesn't have to be a 30 or 40 point triple double, but I think he's gonna be very engaged.
00:15:29
I wouldn't be surprised A D goes for 30 and 10.
00:15:32
I mean, he's going for 30 and 10 all playoffs, Really? But let me let me tell you something, all right? Uh, a D in the playoffs.
00:15:39
Alright, for anybody that has a look.
00:15:41
First of all, he's only playing 35 minutes a game, which is like, basically his regular season minutes.
00:15:45
So this means that he's taking an entire quarter off.
00:15:48
Okay, he's not even playing a full quarter.
00:15:50
He's shooting 57% overall while shooting 40% from three.
00:15:56
His free throw shooting is come down.
00:15:58
He's at about like 78% but that's you know that's okay.
00:16:01
It's still respectable, and he's obviously got grabbing 10 boards forces, and he's got a steal in a block again that, um, those are numbers that are like shock esque numbers.
00:16:16
And, um, you know, I know that we don't, uh, one of things I hate doing or I try not to do is to compare guys in our current air because it is different areas of basketball.
00:16:26
It's more spacing, all that kind of stuff.
00:16:27
But anti Davis is playing.
00:16:29
I mean, I think that everybody can agree.
00:16:31
Like anti, Davis and LeBron are playing in an offense that doesn't necessarily optimized for space.
00:16:35
Some of that.
00:16:36
Some of that's their own fault, because Davis won't play that the center as much as we'd like.
00:16:41
But the fact that they're able to that the fact that Davis is shooting the way he is So in this in these kind of lineups with the second big there, or with a guy like Rondo, who's not known as known to be a shooter, Um on even next to LeBron, who's not necessarily amazing three point shooter but has his moments and stuff like that from time to time.
00:17:01
That kind of says something like like when I think about what Davis is doing right now and I think There's something.
00:17:07
What, What would happen if the Lakers actually play them in like an optimized offense? His numbers would be like video game numbers.
00:17:12
Hey, would have.
00:17:14
It would be pretty crazy and the fact that he's doing it and he's being expected to defend to some degree what I would say, probably one of the most skilled or if not the most skilled big man in the league.
00:17:26
In Yokich, it tells you something.
00:17:29
Yoga just hitting tremendous shots.
00:17:31
He could set up his teammates.
00:17:32
He's not the defender that, like maybe Anthony Davis is.
00:17:35
But he puts so much pressure on your defense that if you make even, you know you can.
00:17:40
If you rotate slightly in the wrong direction.
00:17:42
We've seen how you picture defense apart, Um, and so, like, he's having an unreal run, and I'm not going to jinx him by by crowning him anything just yet, because I want them to win the championship.
00:17:55
I'm too superstitious of a guy, But, um, if the Lakers win a championship, whether or not he gets the files EVP or not, that stuff doesn't matter to me.
00:18:03
We're gonna have to discuss this scoring run that he's been on as compared to, like, scoring runs.
00:18:09
Like what? What dirt did in 2011 where he was like hitting game winners and he was like practically unguardable And like Davis is in that territory right now where you can't press him because he'll drive by you.
00:18:21
You can't lay off of them because you're just gonna shoot those jumpers over you, and we're very much in that territory right now.
00:18:27
But, you know, obviously we'll wait and see if the Lakers win the championship.
00:18:30
Thio have that conversation.
00:18:32
But look, man, he's been great thes two games in this series.
00:18:36
He's been tremendous.
00:18:37
He's leading all, um, all scores.
00:18:40
Right now, he's averaging 30 for a game, Uh, right now against Denver and of all the other players in the conference finals there, only averaging 25 almost the whole 10 points more than the next guy, which is your kitchen in Tatum, right? He's been He's been incredible, man.
00:18:56
I'm so glad I'm not going to disparage the guys that we traded to get him because I love that.
00:19:02
I love those guys, too, but like we get it now, like I hope Laker fans understand, Like what, what he's doing and what he's bringing to the league or to the scene S.
00:19:12
O.
00:19:13
I think the thing is that, you know, you and I, we talked about it a lot with those young guys that we had the trade like it.
00:19:19
They probably needed to go to other situations.
00:19:21
E Just think l A might not have been the best place for a number of different reasons.
00:19:25
And I think for Anthony Davis people throw around the term generational talent, and I think it's important to remember that someone could be a generational talent, but not necessarily get all the generational accolades, right.
00:19:39
Like everybody can't win five championships.
00:19:40
There's a number of reasons why they can't.
00:19:43
Anthony Davis is absolutely a generational talent Now, whether or not he gets the championships MBPs, all that stuff is another conversation.
00:19:50
But we have an opportunity to get one of those guys.
00:19:54
You have to go get that guy almost at all costs.
00:19:57
And what the Lakers have done, basically, throughout their entirety of the franchise, is when that guy has been available.
00:20:03
They went and got that guy shock Karim will.
00:20:08
I mean, just in terms of the Big Mint and Pau Gasol man who? I don't think it's nearly the credit he deserves.
00:20:14
The Pau Gasol might not have been a generational talent, but he fit.
00:20:19
He fits what it is that the Lakers needed, and I think, um, not that hijack your point, but like the thing, the thing that I think Lakers fans probably understand better than maybe some other fans, too, because because the way free agency moves and stuff like that.
00:20:33
Um, but fit is so important when it comes to this not just like Onley personality fit but like skill, fit and decision making fit.
00:20:42
And there's so many small things that go along with that you can have a coach that's maybe not the best coach in the league or like this.
00:20:49
He's not a Gregg Popovich to your coach or something like that, but because he understands how pieces fit together within a scheme and how players fit together within a scheme like what it can do, like how it can amplify certain things.
00:21:02
Um, when it comes to when it comes to basketball, cause that's that's what makes basketball great.
00:21:06
You know, it's that you can get a guy who's just a specialist.
00:21:10
But you put him next to these two other guys where they have like they don't have like a big, gaping hole in that skill set, but because he's there, he makes, he makes them.
00:21:19
He he makes you know he feels a gap, and he makes them better at the same time.
00:21:23
And so, like, that's the thing that, like, I feel like we've got with this Lakers team and, um, you know, and I'll say this Before the season started, there was a lot of conversations when it came to our Los Angeles neighbors as to what is How do you stack these lineups? Thes guys were just more talented on the roster, and that may have been true.
00:21:44
Um, but I also remember there was a time where Laker fans were consistently telling people the fit has toe work.
00:21:50
It has to work like these guys have to work together.
00:21:53
And we were being told as Laker fans that well, you guys radius.
00:21:56
There's just so much talent here that it's just not gonna work and I wonder if some of that happened because of Durant going to the Warriors and him.
00:22:03
Just, you know, them just kind of overwhelming the entire league with how good they were.
00:22:07
But there was a fit part of Durant's team.
00:22:10
Absolutely fit.
00:22:11
Yeah, it Yeah, and so there's no.
00:22:15
And it worked because Steph is a, you know, for all intensive, but he's a selfless guy.
00:22:20
Hey, doesn't seem like he he'll demand shots.
00:22:23
Um, Clay doesn't demand shots, and they're also the best.
00:22:25
Like they're the two greatest shooters of all time, both on ball and off ball.
00:22:29
So you can.
00:22:30
They'll fit anywhere.
00:22:31
Um, and I think people got into like this.
00:22:34
The n b A audience has gotten into this mode where they think to themselves that like, Oh, you could just add these two guys together and voila, it fits And, you know, obviously the Clippers got bounced early, and so they've now got to deal with all the nonsense that they have to deal with, um, about Paul, George and all that's her stuff and how their teammates feel about the rest of the roster on Doc Rivers.
00:22:56
But the Lakers prioritized fit.
00:22:58
They said these were the two guys that we have.
00:23:00
We need guys that can fit in with these guys who aren't going to complain about shots.
00:23:05
And we see guys like Kuzma, um who you know, he had a starting role.
00:23:11
He was a very productive players first two years.
00:23:14
He had some slippage his second year, and he has some slippage this year because of his injuries.
00:23:19
But he's bought into that and credit to guys like Jared Dudley and stuff like that who have kind of, like help keep the mentality in the right place.
00:23:27
But they've even added guys like Mark Keith Morris at the deadline who just fit, and that's the thing that makes that makes this game this team so good.
00:23:35
Um, and you know, another guy.
00:23:37
Caruso is another perfect example of another guy.
00:23:39
That's that's like that.
00:23:40
Just do what we're asking you do and just trust your teammates, and we'll trust you, and we can be successful.
00:23:45
So we've talked before about how many parallels are between this team and then the 09 team.
00:23:50
And, um, even the threepeat Lakers how Rick Fox and Fisher and all these guys Yeah, Ron Harper.
00:23:58
Yeah, e.
00:24:01
I wanted to add on to your point about fit right because for for what? So the Lakers won five championships over the last 20 years.
00:24:08
The Spurs won five over the last 20 years, but with the Spurs, all we heard was culture right with the Lakers.
00:24:13
It was what we won because we had talent.
00:24:14
It was L.
00:24:15
A.
00:24:16
And blah, blah, blah right? Not only did the Lakers prioritize, prioritize, fit, they prioritize culture, right? So when when DaMarcus got hurt, they didn't just throw him to the Wolves and get rid of him, You know, when they had to let go of them, they still kept him around the franchise, right? Like even when they brought Dion in there.
00:24:32
He's been injured.
00:24:34
I know he's getting up shots tonight, but there's been no issues with Dion, the issues he had in Miami.
00:24:39
No issues there. They brought J. R.
00:24:41
Smith and no issues with J.
00:24:42
R.
00:24:43
Smith, right? Like there's been no mention of the Lakers culture yet.
00:24:47
Clearly, there is a great culture.
00:24:49
They brought Jason Kidd and nobody wanted Jason Kidd to be a coach.
00:24:53
There's no issues with Jason Kidd backstabbing or anything, so they got the culture right and then my final point was Frank Vogel.
00:25:01
So that final play, whatever he was going to go with, Rondo asked, Can he go in, give a lot of credit to Vogel, saying Okay, I trust you.
00:25:11
I'm gonna put you in an inbound that ball.
00:25:13
How many coaches do you think would have said No? I'm gonna do what I want to dio No, for I I agree that that is, That's it. I don't even think of that.
00:25:21
That's a great point.
00:25:22
Like in That's like a split second decision.
00:25:25
It's not like he has a minutes or a time out to make that decision.
00:25:27
He's just like, all right, this is what we're doing.
00:25:29
Um, even even I'm trying to remember there was one sequence.
00:25:34
I think it's right before KCP.
00:25:35
It's that that contested three.
00:25:36
Where he pulled.
00:25:37
I want to say he pulled Danny Green out for KCP or he made a substitution.
00:25:42
That and and then the guy that subbed in was the one who hit the three.
00:25:45
And I was just like, wow, like that could have been somebody else in that spot.
00:25:48
If he doesn't make that read or that substitution And he was, I think he was doing like that offense defense thing.
00:25:53
Uh, that's why he was doing that.
00:25:54
And no, man your point. Exactly.
00:25:57
Right.
00:25:58
And then you take that one step further and then you hear LeBron talk about who the play was supposed to go to and then here, anti David say the same thing and, you know, and then I think Worldwide blob or whatever he showed that footage of Who is it? Jeremy Grant telling Plumlee to come help because they don't want LeBron to back cut for that drive.
00:26:16
And it's like I was watching it.
00:26:18
And then I will rewatch a couple of the replace.
00:26:19
I'm like, Alright, do I see LeBron motion to Rondo like a like A T is gonna be open or do a c a d motion something.
00:26:26
And granted, you know, this is a set play, but the fact that they could basically ad lib that to some degree and for you know, obviously 80 has to hit that shot for it to be successful.
00:26:35
But for them to be able to ad lib it and never, never make that clear that that that's what was going to happen because I was watching LeBron.
00:26:42
I was like, Wow, like he's not even gonna move like where they're throwing this No, until until.
00:26:47
Until Davis, you know, like, makes that curl and he's wide open and you know it's but that's basketball I Q.
00:26:53
Right like that. That's no.
00:26:55
Rondo doesn't have a lot of his ability anymore.
00:26:57
But that mhm when you're in bounder, is one of the best pastors of all time, one of the brightest basketball minds of all time and two guys that he's going to throw the ball to either LeBron James or Anthony Davis.
00:27:07
They can make that I contact he's got.
00:27:09
He has that report with e.
00:27:11
I mean, that was for all that to happen that quickly have to make that decision to put Rondo in and LeBron Dah, to maybe hear the play that that the defense is gonna run and, like, decided not to move.
00:27:22
For all that to happen in a split second, think about the nuance like these are the things that you know, like as when you play basketball, you understand? But think about the nuance.
00:27:33
He has Yokich on him on that baseline.
00:27:35
He's defending that past yoga, just jumping up in here because he doesn't want to throw it over the top right, because that's usually what happens.
00:27:41
It gets thrown over the top on, and then and then somebody goes right for a score.
00:27:46
So Rondo also had the wherewithal, and Davis was ready that Rondo throws a bounce pass, which buys because you're contractually did it great.
00:27:56
Close up by yoga.
00:27:57
But it's just enough time for Anthony Davis to get that shot off, Catch it, get the shot off without Yokich coming, like on a late contestant blocking it on.
00:28:06
And Yokich is a big guy, so he's gonna He's gonna close the distance.
00:28:09
Like when you think when you reflect back and you think about all the small things that have to go right for that play to be successful, that doesn't happen just on on on an Excel file with the names of the players and what status they have, that just doesn't happen.
00:28:22
It only happens if your teammates are in it with you.
00:28:25
They understand the situation.
00:28:27
They've rehe****d it, and they just trust each other right, because Rana could have gone anywhere with that, he could have the force a contested past LeBron, too.
00:28:34
But he went with what it was, and I think the story came out.
00:28:38
Um, afterwards, where Davis said, We're I think David said that he was like, frustrated after Yokich scored on him in the post to take the lead or whatever.
00:28:48
And Rondo was the one who told him, Well, then just go get him back and you know, obviously the rest is history, but, um, it was it was a great game to watch.
00:28:58
It was a little bit too much of a rollercoaster for me as a Lakers fan, obviously, because we don't wanna be blowing huge leads.
00:29:02
But, um, it's it's for any Laker fans that aren't old enough to remember what Shaq and Kobe's.
00:29:13
And I think, um, Pete later, film room.
00:29:15
He mentioned it, um, he these roller coaster of emotions, this adversity that this team is facing, not just from the media, but just on the court, because these are good teams that they're playing.
00:29:28
This is what it was like.
00:29:30
This is like the Lakers went into games down 15 points in the fourth quarter and had to make these crazy comebacks.
00:29:37
Shaq and Kobe were not rolling teams.
00:29:40
They would roll the Eastern Conference finals opponent because there's a huge gap in talent between those two things.
00:29:44
But this is what Laker basketball is like.
00:29:48
Some teams will roll them some games.
00:29:49
Some teams we won't.
00:29:50
But when it comes to like these moments where we have Thio grind it out for an ugly win and maybe it's a game winner, maybe it isn't Lakers come through, and I'm just glad that the Anthony Davis was the guy to do it, because I do believe that he's a really, really great player, and I think he is much better and much closer to the very, very best players in the league.
00:30:13
And, uh, I'm gonna wait before I start pushing that campaign until after they win the championship.
00:30:17
But I'm very proud of Anthony Davis, a very proud of this team, for for fighting back and sticking together.
00:30:22
Andi, I'm just I'm just excited for Game three.
00:30:25
I am too.
00:30:26
Well, let's get to it.
00:30:27
We got a few minutes, so let's get to Game three and and let's see if we get this Lakers win tonight.
00:30:31
So today is always man, Thanks for coming on.
00:30:33
Uh, of course, Alex, Hopefully we'll be tweeting about a Laker win. Afterwards.
00:30:38
We will

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