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question.
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Awesome.
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Well, hello and welcome to another.
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Troy Nunes is an absolute live cast.
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I'm Antony, Pray Glor, live from Brooklyn.
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And with me, as always, is our producer and co host of extraordinaire Steve Collar, live from Syracuse, New York.
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Yeah, I think co host title better than the producer.
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But we do what we can eso were, Uh, yeah, we're sitting through another wonderful week of Syracuse football.
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Um, they gave you good. Yeah.
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Yeah, that was the thing.
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So we're just gonna jump right into this real quick because I think that if you went to both of us before the season started and said Syracuse is going to play to top 25 teams to open the season on the road and Syracuse football's oh, and to neither of us would have been surprised.
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And I think if you would have been added on that, the new 335 defense looks like it can hold pretty much every non claims an opponent on the schedule.
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We feel really good, and both of those statements are factual.
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The problem is that everybody feels like this team is potentially headed for a GERD level of, um failure because the offense is an absolute tire fire.
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And I think this is really causing some issues.
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Yeah, and I mean, we you hit on it right off the bat, John, post that article today about Syracuse crisis confidence.
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And that's kind of where we're at of, like, there's a lot of things and, you know, call me, as always, the glass half full guy, Um, glasses and half full glasses.
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It's on the counter.
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There's something in it How much is yet to be determined, but I don't know.
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It za weird feeling because a lot of the things that we thought would be the keys to coming out of this.
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So like like you said, nobody expected to start anything different than going to We started on to how we started on two really changes how the outlook is.
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Um, I I weirdly still feel confident against Georgia Tech next week.
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I don't know why, but, uh, coming out of the pit game, there were many, many things that were a bit of a conundrum, if you will.
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Yeah.
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And you You wrote the three takeaways this week for us.
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Um, kind of examining the big things to kind of look at from a from an eagle eye view.
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And one of those questions waas the offense naturally.
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But I think more so, the play calling.
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And I think this is where you and I can actually have a pretty constructive conversation here.
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Um, there's a lot of people who are ready to bench Tommy DeVito, and I don't think that's accurate.
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And I think we also saw that Rex Culpepper just doesn't have the consistent and see to be a starting quarterback.
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That can lead Syracuse, uh, to anything resembling success this year.
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That being said, I don't think either quarterback is being helped very much by the overall offensive scheme that Syracuse is running.
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And partially that comes down to some limitations based off of the offensive line and injury.
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But I will say that it's kind of embarrassing that it took basically six quarters before Syracuse was able to get into any sort of offensive rhythm this season.
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And in the third quarter, all that offensive rhythm got pretty much derailed because of the DeVito screen pick and just someplace where pit blew up the blew up Syracuse spot and killed any momentum that they had, and it's I mean, I guess just a harp on that.
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The the offense finally started to find itself a little on that was actually of you behind a curtain.
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For anybody who's listening to this, uh, writing these three takeaways, it's always a very ebb and flow thing because you're doing it in real time with the game so coming out of the second, like I literally like going toe have I had the one of one of the what turned into what the offensive take away was was literally.
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Offense starts to find itself.
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Still, plenty of questions that got changed pretty quickly to offense and play calling added more question marks once we saw the second half of the game.
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But, you know, even some of the second quarter.
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But it was it really like you started to see some production, you started to see the ground and click a little, uh, George Jordan finally found his legs.
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Sean Tucker seems to be.
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He might be able to, um, fill that power back role quite nicely, So there's plenty of plenty of positives to take out of what we saw piecemeal.
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Um, we saw a Richard senior tackle, put in a 16.
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9 on Pff for pass blocking.
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I don't know if he was that bad, but there were definitely a couple of, uh, matador moments, if you will, Where the de Lyon and and it's something that I've thought about service for a while.
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I've really, like a lot of things.
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He's done Speed Rush on the end is it's not his strength.
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Um, Federal O, on the other hand, used to handle this speed like last year.
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Handled the speed rest.
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Okay, because his big issue was somebody coming back across his face.
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Like there's each lineman has their limitations, has their issues.
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They're gonna find that film, they're gonna exploit it.
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Hopefully, service can keep his hips a little tighter next week.
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I don't know what Kevin was gonna do for adjustments, but, um, you know, if he keeps his hips square, he actually kicked steps instead of just, you know, he would take one step and then turn, And as soon as you give up your hips, you're completely screwed.
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Trying toe actually write a tactical out.
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So in that case of the speed rushing PN, so, um, I don't know I got derailed because I got disrespected by offensive line talk.
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Uh, but, you know, there were There were some good things.
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There were plenty of bad things.
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Like the *** seven, ***.
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Um, again, there were a number that we're not the offensive line's fault, that we're coverage *** that, uh, maybe we didn't check down on that.
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He didn't find more than his first read.
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And that was that, Um, And similarly to what? If you guys have heard three game show, I know Christian and I went back and forth a little utilizing some of the and Kevin, especially Kevin's a huge tight end stand.
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So hey, was he was bringing it up on day it with the tenants.
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We have gratefully so but any sort of delay edge and any sort of leaks, any sort of, you know, give give, give your blacker or the guy you're blocking a punch and then release off him for Ah, quick check down like we didn't see any of that.
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And the way the way things were going, why don't you put something like that in the playbook? Why isn't there something to mix up a little? Um Yeah, I think I think that's the really hard part is because the way that Syracuse open to the game was with a fantastic amount of tempo, which has been a big criticism that I've had since.
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DeVito has been a quarterback where the tempo really fell off last year, and that was something that I know John and Kevin really harped on with why Syracuse's offense circled was that typically, they're snapping the ball with 22 15 seconds left on the play clock when the offense is going right.
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But last year it was much more closer to five seconds.
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They're running the play clock all the way down, And that's just not the way that this offense is going to be successful if they don't have the better athletes, which isn't gonna happen in the A C.
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C Um, and we saw them start to pick game off with an insane amount of tempo.
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We saw that lead to a lot more wide receiver separation, a lot more conservative play by the pit defense in order to just kind of make sure that they didn't let anything get behind them, and DaVita was able to make plenty of throws.
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He was able to hit guys on short, out routes.
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He was able to hit a lot of comebacks.
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That allowed the wide receivers to make plays after the catch, which I think is probably the safest and most basic version of this offense that has success.
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The problem.
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Waas.
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As soon as things got into a rhythm, the play calls suddenly changed.
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And it was if Gilbert was over thinking like I I don't know exactly what what the process is there because you know, is the only person who answers questions.
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We can exactly dive.
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Deepen does and you know, is very good at avoiding specific questions.
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But it almost felt like Gilbert was was thinking that Pit was going to adjust, so he wanted to adjust first but pit.
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But no team has done that so far.
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North Carolina didn't do that, and Pitt didn't do that.
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There have been no defensive adjustments against Syracuse because they know that the offense is eventually going to beat itself.
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And that's what Syracuse did, especially in the red zone.
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And I feel like that is somewhere where, um, I'm going to be a Dino defender and I'm going to be a, you know, a Gilbert defender to the extent of I want to see him have a few games under his belt.
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But that off that red zone play calling was absolutely atrocious.
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Like there.
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There is no making up for getting into the red zone on amazing wide receiver tree that saw Courtney Jackson wide open and then immediately going toe a power running game when you were spread passing offense was clearly working right, and that's I You might be onto something where Gilbert's tryingto overthink it.
00:11:05
And I I wonder if that's kind of the same thing that Lynch ended up after Lewis left.
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Um, I don't know what to people.
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You kind of I can't I don't know what the dynamic was like, but, you know, you're bouncing stuff off each other like there's Ah, it is not It's not on you and you're not having to play, you know, 40 hs against Narduzzi and figure out what the hell he's thinking.
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Because God knows what the hell that is.
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Uh, like great football mind Don't want to get inside that head.
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No, but yeah, it zvehr e odd to see.
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See? See the offense move away from what was working as quickly as they did.
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Like Look, look at the opposite of it, where you have something like last year when BC played against us and Steve Addazio entire offensive plan was give them all A J Dillan left.
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Give the ball.
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They don't right, Prince repeat.
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And it kept working.
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So they kept going with it until someone stops what you're doing, you know? Yeah, maybe make some tweaks, maybe throw something in there, but keep coming back to what works.
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So yeah, and I think that was and I think that was the most frustrating part because this was a conversation that I was having on the side with some Syracuse friends who were really talking about.
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I think this is a larger conversation that we can have after we talked about this game a little bit more, which is there's after the Camping World Bowl.
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There was this expectation that Syracuse had turned the corner and we obviously at news magician and kind of said, pause on that.
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That's not the way college football works for a non power top 10 team.
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Um, and for Syracuse, it ultimately fell on to veto.
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And DeVito looked good, that threat that his freshman year, when he didn't have any expectations on him and then once expectations started half getting piled onto him.
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We saw him kind of struggle, and Jon kinda called it out that DeVito has been incredibly risk averse, and that is exactly the opposite of what Eric Dunshee Waas.
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And there's obviously pros and cons to both styles of play.
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But what we've seen is that you can't call.
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You can't call Syracuse games whichever way you want to and then expect the team to figure it out because that's just not what the quarterbacks going to dio.
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So if you're the play caller, you have to know that your quarterback is very risk averse is going to take the conservative option more than the big play option.
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And you have to work around that or you have to change your quarterback, and I'm not sure where the disconnect is.
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But there's very clearly clearly intention on the offensive side of the ball when it comes to the general philosophy of how we like this offense to run well.
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There was a point e remember where in the game.
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It was where it was one of the first series that Rex was in.
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It might have been the second Siri's he was when he was when he was still in, after DeVito would have come back in, Um, and they came off the sideline and I can't remember what was Harris or might have been actually might have been.
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Courtney Jackson, uh, came off and was talking to DeVito, and it looked like Culpepper was ****ed at them.
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And I was just like, This is a weird situation and I'll have to look back on it like it's not like I'm trying to start any rumors or anything, but it's like there was There's a level of frustration at that point in the game where you're just like nothing's working.
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I can see every every piece of the puzzle like isn't quite fitting.
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So you know once once we start to see what direction this is going to take, I think Tommy DeVito style our guy like I don't think there's any point in from what we've seen, putting it on Rex Culpepper.
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And I know the Syracuse Twitter out is all over.
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You know Culpepper like it's you know, I don't even know what. Good ****ogy.
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I'm sure there's something out there, but they really want to see him in there.
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And it's like, Did you watch every throw? Except for the touchdown and even the touchdown? He kind of was behind his guy like he kind of hugged it out there for Harris.
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Harris made a move to catch it and then made two guys miss three guys.
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Two or three guys, miss.
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But two guys and Narduzzi basically said there should have been a third guy there to stop it from happening.
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So there, the whole set up was, you know, yes, the complete what about 40 yard completion, and then who knows what would happen after that? But every other throw we saw from him wasn't anything to write home about.
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Like I do like that.
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He's much more decisive.
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If we could combine the decisiveness of him with the, you know, passing accuracy of DeVito, I'd say it would be in pretty decent shape.
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Mhm.
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But we got one of the other, so Oh, that's where we're at.
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Yeah, and I think that if you want listen, I understand the idea of the wrecks thing was a very cool moment.
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I'm glad I got the publicity that Rex deserves for working back and being able to make that throw.
00:16:16
But at the same point.
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Dude, on that last drive when Syracuse is Syracuse last offensive drive when they're not really in the game.
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But they have a chance to make it a one possession game and you've got a third and medium and forth and medium and you miss too wide open guys on out routes.
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If you can't make that throw with the Division one level, you're not a quarterback of the division one level.
00:16:36
Both times that, I think both times it was the Courtney Jackson.
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Both times Jackson was wide open, and both times the ball was in catchable.
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I'm pretty sure that was the Siri's that I was talking about.
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Like seeing the frustration after because it was definitely, um, it was palpable.
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Like you could tell the whole And at that point, you know, the offense was sputtering.
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Very hardly, hardly.
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Just go with it.
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Um uh, and yeah, this is my first beer tonight.
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Three offense just wasn't really doing what they, you know, are designed to do, and the frustration was just coming out.
00:17:13
And it's understandable.
00:17:14
Like when you're when you're sitting in that situation on the road against, you know, yes, If everybody was playing pit, probably get ring right now, but you know, you're ranked.
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They're currently ranked of the teams that are playing their their, um, and they that that's the thing is that defensive front is solid.
00:17:33
And those DVDs, I mean, Paris forward is probably gonna end up somewhere, Um, the D line, even without okay, you want to say walk ins, But it's not that.
00:17:47
Pop it out.
00:17:48
Uh, yeah, I'll remember later in the show he'll.
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But even without him, that's still one of the top defensive lines in the league.
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And you know, we did what we did with them.
00:18:00
So we'll see what happens against a Georgia Tech team that isn't nearly either of those teams.
00:18:07
Hopefully, I mean, who knows what this year, right? And I think that's I think that's the caveat that I don't think a lot of Syracuse fans are really taking into account their seeing two games to open the season.
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They're seeing Syracuse lose both games by double digits when the and we said This is the when the moment that schedule dropped, we said that.
00:18:28
It's incredibly like at Syracuse loses all of its road games.
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And that is because Syracuse, all of their road games against top half of the A C C teams and the team is just not in a position to pull one of even one of those upsets in less than things go incredibly right for them and incredibly wrong for the team.
00:18:48
And I think what's been really frustrating is that Pitt very much did not want to win the game.
00:18:55
But Pitt has more talent.
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At least pit is a better football team right now that Syracuse is.
00:19:01
I don't know if they have more talent, but they're very clearly clearly a better team and know what their strengths are and know how to utilize those strengths more consistently.
00:19:09
Yeah, I mean, they've consistently been recruiting better in Syracuse that consistently had bowl games like there's you can't take that away from them like there.
00:19:18
As much as I don't want it to be the better program at present there, they're in a better spot than Syracuse is.
00:19:24
So, um, yeah, I guess, uh, we we touch on everything that the honest did wrong.
00:19:33
Anything on the defense and what they did, right? Oh, my God.
00:19:37
Uh, Steve, I think you and I are going to use Star A like a fan group for Tony White.
00:19:43
I know that there's some crazy people who already positioning him to be head coach, which were not there.
00:19:48
But I will say what he has done with this defense and with this group of defenders has made me like I'm not watching the football game for the end result.
00:19:56
I am watching toe watch what Syracuse does on defense every time, because I have not.
00:20:02
And this is this is going to be absolutely not to say I have never seen Syracuse line up in the same formation in back to back place and do the same thing in back to back plays every single time.
00:20:14
They're creating new looks, they're trying to do something different, and they're putting players in amazing positions to succeed.
00:20:21
And I was very excited because Michelle Jones had a fantastic game and I have been standing for that since he signed his letter of intent to play at Syracuse that kid is going to be a stud, and he is the perfect tweener player to go to Syracuse.
00:20:36
He's too much of a good athlete to go toe a Mac or to go, you know, outside of the Power five.
00:20:42
But he's not prototypical size.
00:20:44
He cannot go to, you know, a Top 25 program and expect to get any playing time before his junior senior year.
00:20:51
We can come to a Syracuse, go into a unique situation, and he's got the talent to succeed a power five level.
00:20:58
So Jones look good again on by the linebackers.
00:21:01
I know Christian actually gave them an A in his his ratings, which the way they played, okay, I mean, you talk about tweeners that made the rate of Syracuse trawl Richard that has come back and made it with a bang with a second a tackle for loss.
00:21:15
So not too bad there.
00:21:18
Young Marlo Wax had his I don't know if he got any steps the first week, but he definitely made his name in the second week.
00:21:25
So hey was in there, you know, mixing it up at least a tackle for a loss.
00:21:30
Um, Stefan Thompson and can argue both looked as good as they didn't Week one.
00:21:38
Yeah, Thompsons.
00:21:39
Thompsons Only mistake was the roughing the passer call, which was most people agreed was not a roughing the passer call e.
00:21:47
I mean, that was a and I hate to I'm not one thio bitter moment, the refs.
00:21:54
But that three penalty Siri's the What was it p I roughing the P I stop him roughing the passer.
00:22:03
Stop him P. I again.
00:22:05
And it was just like get You can't dig out of that.
00:22:10
No and somehow pit.
00:22:12
You know, Pit missed the kick, which ultimately ended up being like, I guess, karma because they should not have been in that position, but still from a game perspective.
00:22:24
And that's put him behind the eight ball later in the game.
00:22:27
And, yeah, you know, they you know, they bended without breaking.
00:22:32
But at the same time, like, you know, the last last couple of drives could have been much different if they had fresh legs or any of those.
00:22:41
Any of those switched momentum in Syracuse direction.
00:22:45
You know, that was also I can't remember one that wasn't a game, but it was it was when things were still kind of up in the air before Syracuse's offensive ineptitude kind of cut up with them.
00:22:55
So, yeah, I don't know.
00:22:58
And it's It's, I think, um, from like from the defensive side, that's that's going to be the most difficult part of the years that you're going to see the defense hold firm.
00:23:09
And unless the offense gets better, the the defense is just going to get broken at some point time, Um, and it's it's going to be frustrating and it's going to be annoying.
00:23:20
But for the most part, I think that when you're looking at a per play basis when you're looking at a per Dr basis, the Orange defense is going to be a top half a C C defense, which is phenomenal and shows one.
00:23:37
Brian Ward really wasn't going to bring the right scheme to what he had at Syracuse.
00:23:44
Um, but also to that Syracuse Is that Dino Babers recruiting strategy for defensive players of Just get the freaks here, get the athletes here, um, can work at the level.
00:23:57
They might not be as highly ranked as a lot of other schools, but there's a way to be successful here.
00:24:04
Andi, I think what made me really excited just from a week to week progression standpoint, I think that's the way that we need to view Syracuse this year is how do they look week to week? How do they progress is a team? Last week against North Carolina, we saw that the front three and whatever player they kind of rolled up into to create a front four.
00:24:24
Those four players were always able to get into the backfield and create pressure by themselves.
00:24:28
Pit did a much better job handling those those front four, whatever they were, and what Syracuse was able to adjust to is that they were able to bring 1/5 guy to bring pressure find wherever Pit was going to miss them and put that player in the right position.
00:24:46
And that's squarely on coaching.
00:24:48
That's squarely and scouting and close to the entire defensive staff.
00:24:52
Or identifying that pretty early on and being able to ensure that I think Kenny pick it ended up having like a pretty great game stat wise.
00:25:00
But he did not look comfortable for more than a few plays at a time he was definitely had a hand in his face most of the day.
00:25:07
Which credit to bear Williams, who? You know.
00:25:11
It's not gonna look like it on the stat sheet, but he made the most of him, matching up with a NFL center.
00:25:18
Jimmy Morrissey will be playing at the next level, and he made the most of his opportunity against him.
00:25:25
Like to be a two Gap guy against the senator like that.
00:25:29
It takes a lot, and it's not gonna look impressive on the stat sheet.
00:25:33
But he did his job and he did it as well.
00:25:36
As you know, we'd expect him to.
00:25:39
So figured I'd just get a plug for the plug for the big guy in there.
00:25:44
Okay? And I think if we're gonna kind of wrap up like the defensive conversation, it wasn't all perfect.
00:25:51
Um, the secondary got a little bit exposed.
00:25:53
Garret Williams in particular.
00:25:55
We kind of have talked about a lot about trill about Cisco.
00:26:00
Um, Cooley had a pretty quiet game, but that was again partially because they were just avoiding him.
00:26:06
Which is gonna happen.
00:26:07
Um Oh, God.
00:26:11
Jihad Carter.
00:26:12
That's what was in Dzhokhar Carter.
00:26:14
Yeah, he and you know, you could tell us his first game in the system and that he was looking a little shaky, but, um, I think he settled in a little more as the game went on.
00:26:25
Uh, what? What you did see was pick it kind of taking advantage of some of those seems in that deep zone coverage.
00:26:31
Um, especially with that triumvirate of, uh in between, like Cisco Carter at the time and trill.
00:26:38
Um, if you've got two guys coming up and trails running off with somebody, you can slide some late delay or slide some seamer out in there.
00:26:47
And the two of the first two touchdowns were just that, you know, they just found gaps in the coverage, and I think we still looked good when we're playing men.
00:26:59
I think we had a couple of a couple of issues when we were playing zone.
00:27:02
So, um uh, and that z gonna happen with Cisco, especially as the rover, as opposed to the guy up top, because Cisco it was always going to look for the big play.
00:27:13
He's going to be more aggressive and play closer to the line than he is going to be willing to drop back into coverage and just let the play happen in front of him.
00:27:21
That's just kind of the nature of who he is, which is again, why he's probably playing the river position because it puts him in a better position to impact place.
00:27:29
But to your point, a smart play caller, a veteran quarterback with a you know, a veteran tight end are going to see that and just lick their lips and go, This is Weaken.
00:27:40
Definitely hit them a couple of times.
00:27:41
Yeah, Picket, in his 17th year starting, is going to find that going to find that open, man, Um, that's a you mentioned Gary Williams.
00:27:50
Um, I don't It's weird because yes, he was exposed a couple of times, but I think still, for the amount that they went at him just because your other option is if he like, we're going to see we're going to see Williams look worse than he actually is this year, just because of the fact that they're not going to want to throw them all final.
00:28:10
Yeah, that's a good point.
00:28:11
You're gonna have if you blanket it on your top guy and it's gonna be number two on number two, and Williams is Richard.
00:28:19
Freshman is a very, very solid player, but he does still have his weaknesses because he's young, So we'll see.
00:28:26
We'll see how he develops and how it keeps up.
00:28:28
I mean, he had to stand out first week like you said, he was a little shakier this week, but, um, and right behind him, you've got Neil Nanda filling some gaps to so that that three d the cornerback I'm quite happy with.
00:28:41
Yeah, I think it's absolutely wild.
00:28:44
But I'm looking at all the teams that Syracuse is going to play at home this year, and I legitimately think that the defense could hold them to under 20 points a game.
00:28:52
Um, whether or not the offenses able to outscore, that is entirely other issue.
00:28:56
That is problematic.
00:28:58
But that being said, this is probably the best I've felt about a Syracuse defense period in my time of being a fan since Doug Marrone was at the helm, which is insane.
00:29:10
Uh, and that was back in the days when we all like Scott Shaffer defense's uh well.
00:29:17
Those defense's knew how to stop a running based attack something happened in the meantime, that allowed him Thio.
00:29:23
Not even when you bring a, uh, speaking of triple option Georgia Tech, next week's opponent.
00:29:30
Who you know they don't do that anymore.
00:29:33
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00:31:53
Um, but talking about talking about the Ramblin wreck, I was gonna say There's Georgia Tech does not have a home field.
00:32:02
He also there for Syracuse is already the superior school.
00:32:05
Syracuse playing Georgia Tech at home.
00:32:08
First game in the new quote unquote stadium.
00:32:11
Um, there's a lot of things that we could talk about, but I think we should probably start with the obvious.
00:32:20
Georgia Tech no longer runs the triple option.
00:32:22
Everybody, they do have a dual threat quarterback.
00:32:26
However, they're trying to transition into a West Coast game, and they beat Florida State in the opener.
00:32:33
So, in a weird way, at the Florida State, a pile of garbage Onda offensive line hasn't gotten any better.
00:32:42
And they still want you.
00:32:43
They still only lost butter one by three.
00:32:46
If I remember, it was 16 13 or something like that.
00:32:49
There's some weird, weird score.
00:32:51
Um, it wasn't quite a okay.
00:32:55
Yeah, it wasn't quite a score got me, but it was weird one.
00:32:59
Um I guess toe open it up.
00:33:02
Since I guarantee you haven't looked yet.
00:33:04
What do you think the line is? I have not looked. That was a great call.
00:33:09
If I'm Vegas, I'm going to see Syracuse going Oh into.
00:33:12
And I'm going to see Georgia Tech beating, um, Florida State.
00:33:15
And I'm gonna give Georgia Tech six points.
00:33:19
Three for Syracuse.
00:33:20
I miss a Georgia Tech. 3.5.
00:33:22
George takes 7.5.
00:33:24
Oh, so they think that they basically think that we're talking about at home? Yeah.
00:33:31
Which means that they think that Georgia Tech should win.
00:33:33
Could win by two possessions.
00:33:35
So, personally, I don't think so.
00:33:39
I don't know.
00:33:40
I want to see a little of not so much what they did against Florida staple What they did against UCF this week because it didn't look nearly as impressive just from a scoreline alone.
00:33:50
But, um, if I have a spare minute, I'll probably look back on.
00:33:55
You know what? What they were doing.
00:33:57
So, um yeah, I guess the biggest seems to think we're that much of a dog.
00:34:05
It's not like again.
00:34:07
I think Vegas is a lot like a lot of our our fans pretty temperamental.
00:34:11
I think most of us that the news magician office, um, saw the big line against Pitt and smashed the and smashed Syracuse to cover because we knew that the defense was way better than Vegas That it was and knew that, um, Syracuse would keep it close, which they did.
00:34:27
And I'd like to point out all the pit fans who were like their pits gonna hang 40 plus on them.
00:34:32
You don't judge what your team does against an FBS opponent or FCS opponent on think that they can replicate that against a Power five team.
00:34:42
Syracuse looked amazing against their FCS team last year and they were still not great.
00:34:47
Um, now we look like garbage the week after and the week after that.
00:34:50
So, yeah, so, uh, through you Pitt fans.
00:34:54
But for the Georgia Tech side of things, I think I don't think that Syracuse is going to have is bad of a line.
00:35:00
Is Florida State on bear? Definitely not as good as you, CF.
00:35:04
So I think it'll be a close game.
00:35:06
But ultimately, when you look at Georgia Tech, um, their offense is pretty one dimensional.
00:35:12
They've got a really talented running back and everything else is what you would expect of a triple option team trying to transition into a modern offense where there's not a whole lot going on a lot of other positions.
00:35:25
So on paper, the matchup looks good for Syracuse on the for Syracuse defensive side on Syracuse offensive side of the ball during checks.
00:35:34
Defense is not all that special.
00:35:37
If and here's the big if, if they can keep them out of the backfield.
00:35:42
Yeah, and I mean, Georgia Tech opened with very well opened last week.
00:35:48
Um, yeah, I don't know.
00:35:52
I don't even know where to go with this.
00:35:53
Like they got picked apart by UCF, who has a very, very solid quarterback and a very, very solid receiver corps.
00:36:01
So we don't we have the potential to have those, Um, we'll see what actually happens against the jury.
00:36:09
Tech defense.
00:36:11
Uh, like you said, much of that is completely predicated on whether the line can pull themselves together.
00:36:17
Actually get something going.
00:36:19
I again for the record, have not started my rewatch, so I don't really have any insights on that, but well, we'll see what happens.
00:36:29
Uh, if that turned it.
00:36:31
If that speed rush off the end, that, um, didn't look that great.
00:36:36
Pff may become a thing.
00:36:40
We may have to see some changes quicker than we thought.
00:36:44
So I think one of the things that I'm most interested in looking at was that to your point, we saw two running backs kind of come out of this game, and they didn't look great.
00:36:52
They look better than any running backs, really have, um, since the beginning of the season, which is in a large sample size. But whatever.
00:37:01
Um, where I'm going, Is it Sean? It's not Sean List's not Sean Davis.
00:37:08
Is, uh Tucker? Yes, Sean Tucker.
00:37:12
Thank you.
00:37:13
I don't know why I kept wanting to get that wrong.
00:37:16
Um, but Tucker looked really competent.
00:37:20
Um, as as the power back and more importantly, and we kind of talked about this in slack during game.
00:37:27
Syracuse was doing a much better job run blocking specifically behind Chris Elmore and I couldn't see anything scheme wise that was going on, other than it looked like they were doing a much better job of ensuring that Elmore was getting some leverage against the defense that whatever defensive player he was lined up against because he was actually driving the guy backwards instead of really kind of defending and forcing the running back to kind of work around him, which I don't know if that scheme or if that was just matchup e No, we had talked about it.
00:38:01
I'll take a bigger look at that.
00:38:03
But, you know, with all more being a under sized guard, um, one of the biggest things is going to be getting on that next level.
00:38:12
And he's going to be as quick as most of those linebackers and 30 £40 bigger than them and used to blocking on the run from playing fullback.
00:38:23
So if we can find a way to, you know, get veteran low and service toe kind of come through and take off kind of work a two man scheme on a lot of those blocks and get him up to the next level, that's probably quite beneficial.
00:38:37
Um, same thing with the pulling, like if he's either kicking and end out or getting up in the hole.
00:38:43
I mean, you're you're in a much better situation than you could have been, so I'd say they just continue to try and take advantage of his athleticism and go from there.
00:38:54
Yeah, and I want to kind of see Syracuse basically combine all the good things that happened against the pick game.
00:39:01
The very few of them which were the high tempo and the mixing in of running in the passing game.
00:39:09
Instead of committing toe one or the other for an entire drive.
00:39:11
Like I want to see Tucker gets, um, gets, um, Gap, you know, up the middle runs.
00:39:17
But I also want to see them like, not do that for three straight plays.
00:39:21
I want to see, you know, some passing plays mixed in just more diverse play calling, which I think and I think against Georgia Tech team were more likely to see some success than we are against Pitt or a U. N C.
00:39:33
It seems like, uh, I just randomly with the magic of the Internet pulled up a quick five takeaways from Georgia text game against UCF.
00:39:42
Apparently, there D line looked pretty rough, which should help our offensive line or be very telling for us as far as how far the mighty have fallen so that that's a least some a glimmer of hope.
00:39:58
Yeah, yeah, I don't know it, Za, probably this season is usually at this point we have We're into our third nonconference game, and we're warming up for a sec play versus just being thrown into the meat grinder and all right, let's see who comes out of this thing alive.
00:40:17
Yeah, I think it's I think it is interesting, because if the season had gone according to plan, um, Syracuse would have already played, um, Boston College and play.
00:40:31
Uh, that that was gonna be later.
00:40:35
It would have been Boston College, and it would have been, um, Liberty.
00:40:40
No, Liberty was gonna be home, no matter what.
00:40:42
Um, they were still Rutgers.
00:40:44
They were like, Yeah, which arguably Both these air.
00:40:48
Much worse than UNC and pit.
00:40:51
Um, I think they would have probably had a better record than go into maybe one in one, maybe two.
00:40:58
And oh, um, but I think at going into this third game of the year, it would just the conversation would be so different to your point and ramping up.
00:41:07
And it's think it's really difficult to say this but part of me, the eternal optimist wants to go.
00:41:14
Three.
00:41:15
Offense was purposely being one dimensional because they were basically treating pit and U.
00:41:20
N C.
00:41:21
Is warm up games.
00:41:22
It just so happened that neither pit or u.
00:41:23
N C really wanted to win those games, and therefore we feel worse.
00:41:27
It's about them.
00:41:29
Um, the other side of me says, Well, those the other optimists as well those air to better defense is that we're going to see in Georgia Tech.
00:41:37
So even if the scheme is somewhat limiting by design at this point, um, that limited scheme will still see some more success.
00:41:46
But from a prediction, stand up to your point.
00:41:47
Yeah, it doesn't by now we would have seen Syracuse have some or continued success against the lesser opponent on.
00:41:53
We have a much better idea of who's an actual playmaker versus um, man.
00:41:59
We're still running on hypotheticals for a lot of the stuff, and it's it's all gonna be matchups.
00:42:05
E mean, it always is matchups with some talent in there as well.
00:42:10
But Ling duke looks a lot worse than we thought they'd look.
00:42:15
Yeah, and see, state probably looks better than we thought they'd look.
00:42:19
Uh, huh? We'll see.
00:42:21
The more this flushes out exactly how these squads are gonna look.
00:42:25
Georgia Tech was picked to finish last and they came out and beat the, uh, Seminoles like Week one.
00:42:32
But that was also weak One.
00:42:34
So I don't know, the whole this whole season is just a crapshoot.
00:42:39
Coin flip, whatever you wanna call it.
00:42:41
Yeah, I think on that note like we can kind of talk about.
00:42:45
I think the last thing we should talk about is this larger conversation about what the heck's going on with Syracuse football on specifically within the context of this season.
00:42:52
I know people are really frustrated with how the last two games have gone, and there is a much louder their crowd arguing for change, which to your toe, what you said this season is an absolute um not Mulligan is the right word, but it's definitely it feels it feels like it could be a Mulligan in the actually, You know what? You're right.
00:43:19
Because at the beginning of the year, if you would have gone to me that this season was a Mulligan, I go.
00:43:23
No, because we're not gonna have Abdul Adams next year.
00:43:26
we're not gonna have Jarvie on.
00:43:27
We might have Jarvie on Howard.
00:43:29
Um, we're probably not gonna have Cisco.
00:43:31
We're not gonna have trill, um, all these different things, but with how Syracuse has chosen to handle the opting out of some of those players and in general, with how long they've gone across all positions, this does kind of feel like a Mulligan, and we're going to see most of the same team next year.
00:43:51
And what we're seeing is at least on one side of the ball, the system probably work, no matter what side of the ball, trying to find a way into the system.
00:44:07
Um, and this really does feel like a very much you're playing the practice games in Madden.
00:44:11
Except they count for something.
00:44:12
Yeah, and I mean the other thing.
00:44:16
The other thing, you have to think about what this season is for one sometimes got a full spring set in before Covic for Syracuse.
00:44:27
They were what, like, a couple days in, and they had to shut it down.
00:44:32
Um, like some schools had done their stuff early march.
00:44:36
Some schools have done their stuff in February like the spring season isn't a set time.
00:44:41
It's whenever you can fit it in.
00:44:42
So ah, lot like some of these teams might have gotten significantly more reps in the spring.
00:44:47
Some of these schools might have brought their kids back.
00:44:49
Earlier in the summer, Syracuse played it very close to the vest.
00:44:51
They played it very safe, Which, to me, was the smart thing to do because, you know, it makes sense to me.
00:44:57
Um, but, you know, I'm gonna stick to just being a biologist.
00:45:01
I don't know, you know, follow the science.
00:45:06
Um, don't put a bunch of kids in a giant Petri dish and see what happens.
00:45:11
Like my buddy and I were having this existential conversation the other day about how all of us don't feel great about the fact that they're even playing this season.
00:45:23
But we're also very excited to watch on Saturday.
00:45:25
So it's like this weird dichotomy of like, I don't think they should be playing.
00:45:29
But if they're going to play, I'm going to watch them, right.
00:45:32
And I think that this is the mentality of a lot of people are dealing with.
00:45:35
I definitely struggled with it.
00:45:37
Um, but at the same point and I think this is where a lot of the frustration comes in is because of all that because of everything that's going on.
00:45:46
People when they watch this, want to be entertained in the easiest way to be entertained is to see your team win.
00:45:54
And someone said, When all this is happening and Syracuse doesn't win, it just feels so much worse than in a normal season.
00:46:05
And it's tough because on the one hand, I kind of hope that Wild Hack went Dino and said that wins and losses from this season don't matter.
00:46:14
They don't count, and we're seeing on in some situations, decision making.
00:46:21
That kind of reflects that we're seeing a lot of youth.
00:46:23
That probably wouldn't be the case if this season if Dino was actually on the hot seat, Um, on the you know.
00:46:30
And on the flip side of that, um, for the people who are saying that, you know, because they're playing like it matters.
00:46:36
And this is an opportunity for Syracuse to take advantage of some of the weirdness.
00:46:39
Yeah, it's kind of frustrating to see you know, such a conservative offensive playbook and to see things not looking like they're jelling.
00:46:47
Even though both sides have new coordinators, one side is clearly figured it out.
00:46:51
Um, and I think what I'm trying to articulate in all this kind of rambling is just in general.
00:46:56
Um, I I was never going into this with the expectation that this season was going to happen, and I wasn't going into the expectation with the expectation that if this season happened, Syracuse will be good and I don't really know where other people got the idea that Syracuse was going to be good this year, and that's my disconnect.
00:47:19
But on that level, I think that you can still watch this team and be really entertained, especially with what the defense doing.
00:47:25
I think a lot of the disconnect, for one is that people didn't recalibrate expectations for the ancient schedule.
00:47:32
Yeah, way lost a game.
00:47:35
This guy were down to 11 games.
00:47:39
Of those 11 games, we kept the one out of conference that's that nobody wanted to keep, but we're still playing it, Um, and then we're buying 10 other A C C teams when were normally to less than that.
00:47:56
And those two crossovers in this case happened to be U N C.
00:48:01
Who is ranked number 18.
00:48:04
Thanks, guys.
00:48:05
And who else would we not normally play? Oh, the Notre Dame game.
00:48:10
You know those guys? Yeah. Yeah.
00:48:12
So two teams that air in the top 25 and in Notre Dame's case, the top end of the top 25.
00:48:22
So, like, we kind of got handed a **** sandwich, but and also where they were played to, like, all of the winnable games are at home or all of the winnable games are at home.
00:48:37
Um, which Sure, that's fine.
00:48:40
But being at home doesn't help you when you're already supposed to win the game.
00:48:43
Yeah, so traveling to Death Valley, traveling to North Carolina, traveling to Louisville and then in South event What s o.
00:48:58
I mean, without that recalibration, I could get why people who expected us toe have six wins in a bowl game coming out of this year with the old schedule.
00:49:07
You know, three of those four games, we're gonna be out of conference wins and then you have to win three SEC games.
00:49:14
That's much more manageable than try and pin together five or six wins out of this schedule.
00:49:21
Yeah, this and I know I think that's why um, it hasn't started yet, But I think there's gonna be a lot of conversation this week about how this is a must win how this is, you know, a game to determine this season, which I don't think any of those things are true.
00:49:40
But that will be a narrative that gets played out as Georgia Tech again projected to be the bottom end of the A C C.
00:49:48
Syracuse has them at home, winning them kind of resets.
00:49:51
Ah, lot of conversations about what this team is and how good this team is when, in reality, I I don't think that Syracuse was ever going to be anything more than the top off the bottom tier of the A C C.
00:50:07
Like there's there's like four or five schools that are clearly in that bottom tier.
00:50:11
I don't think that with to your point there, what with the schedule that Syracuse was handed, there was no way they were going to rise above the bond.
00:50:20
The top of that bottom group that sounds sounds about as accurate is going to come.
00:50:25
So um, yeah, it's expectations were weird thing Yeah, they really are.
00:50:33
And they're a hell of a drug.
00:50:35
Yeah.
00:50:36
Tommy DeVito.
00:50:38
Uh, so this has been what has been a weird Yeah, Another great one, man.
00:50:44
We could the bye week conversations that we're going to have of just all the unanswered questions that are that have come up is gonna be fun. It's gonna be a great episode.
00:50:52
I cannot wait for that week.
00:50:57
Lighten buys are here to stay.
00:50:58
Um, yes.
00:51:00
So that's that's pretty much it.
00:51:02
I Listen, if you want to keep reading about what happened against Pitt, we've got plenty of coverage upon the news magician site, but I think it's better for everybody. Sanity.
00:51:10
If you just kind of start thinking about Georgia Tech, you start looking forward.
00:51:14
Yeah, like Steve and have to re watch the game to chart the offensive line.
00:51:19
Man, I can't wait, though that reading is always good.
00:51:22
It's always something.
00:51:24
I love to hate it, and I love to do it, but it's like it.
00:51:29
Oh, God, it's even good games.
00:51:32
It's a slog just because, like, I literally go back through and rewind each play about 25 times to see what the hell actually happened, and it's it's very trying, but got to get the information out there, man, and I think it's become even better just because the offensive line has become the point on the offensive like that.
00:51:56
That's all that matters.
00:51:57
Is the offensive line right now, Somebody, somebody's gotta look at what's actually going on, so I guess I'm stuck with it.
00:52:04
You're stuck with it because of the person who we know is doing.
00:52:07
Is Tom Cavanagh, who is not allowed to talk to us like the Oh yeah, Tom.
00:52:12
Kevin was an actor.
00:52:14
E was thinking a big Tom Callahan from Tommy Boy.
00:52:17
My, uh, slightly different My brain is very much still in pop culture trivia brain.
00:52:25
So I got I got a recalibrate to sports brain for the rest of this week.
00:52:30
But Steve, this was this was really great thistles, the****utic.
00:52:35
In a way, I think that we needed to just kind of expel that pit game from everybody System.
00:52:39
Yeah, yeah, you know, a nice, nice venting session on the game and take it from there.
00:52:46
Yeah, we'll be back again next week at eight PM to talk about whatever happens this Saturday We'll also have plenty of conversations about the new Syracuse stadium.
00:52:56
Experience it Z.
00:52:59
I want to make that very clear.
00:53:01
According to Syracuse Public Communications, it is not the dome.
00:53:04
It is the Syracuse to 80.
00:53:06
Um, so, yeah, I did notice that the game week notes they did mention the carrier dome, but that that was not referenced in a way that meant current stadium.
00:53:17
Yes, the according to my friend who works in the office.
00:53:21
Um, the rule is that whenever there addressing that complex in the present tense, it is the stadium.
00:53:30
Hmm.
00:53:32
Yeah.
00:53:33
E did see that They can alter the leaves, though, which is kind of nice s I'm a midnight madness will be, like pure rave rave vibe going on.
00:53:46
I really hope that the leads could be changed, like in the moment, as opposed to just like, we're gonna pick one color for the night.
00:53:52
And it can it can actually be flashing because I think we could have a lot of fun with that.
00:53:56
I'm pretty sure, uh, just knowing what the grid building does downtown because we redid for people who don't know I work for National Grid, but they re did the building lights a couple of years ago, and they could like changing on the fly and that they had this big do.
00:54:12
So led setups are pretty impressive.
00:54:15
I want blue and orange lights after every touchdown.
00:54:18
There you go.
00:54:19
Just the whole stadium goes blue and orange back and forth.
00:54:22
Listen, there's nobody in this in the stadium except for the media and for the players this time.
00:54:27
So screw around with new stuff.
00:54:29
Try something new.
00:54:30
I ended up e really like wish I could have brought myself to go up there for the first game in the Dome, but, like, I don't know, I would just have introduced sitting in the press box with a bunch of other people.
00:54:43
I It's to be fair.
00:54:46
It's great that it's a new stadium.
00:54:48
Kudos to the reporters who go go for it.
00:54:52
But, man, it's There's still no way air conditioning in there.
00:54:55
It's not gonna be comfortable and there's no area well going.
00:54:58
Did he ever say when? When that's official, I Okay, This is where I have to be.
00:55:05
Very careful here.
00:55:06
Uh, so I don't know.
00:55:09
I have heard.
00:55:10
I don't know if I've heard this officially, if I've heard this unofficially or if I've unofficially officially been told, I believe 2022 2022 23.
00:55:23
Re season is when we have it for a full season.
00:55:26
I think the goal is to have it like by, like summer 2022.
00:55:31
But, um, that something in my brain says that because there is no fan, if there's no fans, these plans could be altered.
00:55:41
Which makes sense, because if you're not dealing with large influxes of crowd for sporting events, you could get a lot more done.
00:55:49
So, yeah, you don't quite have to clear out the corridors as much.
00:55:53
Yeah, so I don't I in, in a way, for those wondering, not going to the Carrier Dome This basketball season might be beneficial for you in the long run and not just recovered.
00:56:04
Not just for Kobe.
00:56:05
You might get air conditioning next year.
00:56:06
Goddammit! That be have the dome.
00:56:11
The stadium.
00:56:12
Sorry.
00:56:13
Uh, half very conditioning will be the greatest, greatest day ever.
00:56:18
It's the people I normally sit next to in the press box, but sorry.
00:56:23
To be fair, it probably will be marked as it will become a trivia question for so many people.
00:56:29
Like, you know, that's gonna be a thing.
00:56:31
Like on what? Data carrier don't officially get air conditioning.
00:56:34
I mean, it's still like the first talking point for every SportsCastr of like, Oh, you know, the Carrier Dome doesn't have air conditioning, huh? Yes.
00:56:43
Thank you.
00:56:44
For those who just sit there during football season, we appreciate this from the person who to dress up as a giant orange and beyond the crap from beyond the field man or up in the third row in the middle.
00:56:55
Like you're the third deck in the middle of, uh, like first week football.
00:57:00
There's the I'll just never forget giving somebody giving some woman ah, hug and she just pulling away and being and being physically damp because my arms and sweat so much that they were damp and she just went.
00:57:15
That's disgusting.
00:57:16
I was like it.
00:57:17
If it's disgusting for you, it's disgusting.
00:57:20
For me, right? Yeah.
00:57:22
And in your case, you're only reaction.
00:57:24
Could be sorry.
00:57:28
You want to bug us? Uh uh.
00:57:33
We've completely derailed this happy, Happy Sunday night, Steve.
00:57:37
There you go.
00:57:39
Thank you, everybody for listening a zoo always.
00:57:42
Eight PM next Sunday.
00:57:43
We will have amazing courage all this week on new tradition dot com and go orange go orange.
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TNIAAL talks Pitt Recap and GT?

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Stephen Haller @sphaller

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question.
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Awesome.
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Well, hello and welcome to another.
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Troy Nunes is an absolute live cast.
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I'm Antony, Pray Glor, live from Brooklyn.
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And with me, as always, is our producer and co host of extraordinaire Steve Collar, live from Syracuse, New York.
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Yeah, I think co host title better than the producer.
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But we do what we can eso were, Uh, yeah, we're sitting through another wonderful week of Syracuse football.
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Um, they gave you good. Yeah.
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Yeah, that was the thing.
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So we're just gonna jump right into this real quick because I think that if you went to both of us before the season started and said Syracuse is going to play to top 25 teams to open the season on the road and Syracuse football's oh, and to neither of us would have been surprised.
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And I think if you would have been added on that, the new 335 defense looks like it can hold pretty much every non claims an opponent on the schedule.
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We feel really good, and both of those statements are factual.
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The problem is that everybody feels like this team is potentially headed for a GERD level of, um failure because the offense is an absolute tire fire.
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And I think this is really causing some issues.
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Yeah, and I mean, we you hit on it right off the bat, John, post that article today about Syracuse crisis confidence.
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And that's kind of where we're at of, like, there's a lot of things and, you know, call me, as always, the glass half full guy, Um, glasses and half full glasses.
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It's on the counter.
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There's something in it How much is yet to be determined, but I don't know.
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It za weird feeling because a lot of the things that we thought would be the keys to coming out of this.
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So like like you said, nobody expected to start anything different than going to We started on to how we started on two really changes how the outlook is.
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Um, I I weirdly still feel confident against Georgia Tech next week.
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I don't know why, but, uh, coming out of the pit game, there were many, many things that were a bit of a conundrum, if you will.
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Yeah.
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And you You wrote the three takeaways this week for us.
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Um, kind of examining the big things to kind of look at from a from an eagle eye view.
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And one of those questions waas the offense naturally.
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But I think more so, the play calling.
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And I think this is where you and I can actually have a pretty constructive conversation here.
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Um, there's a lot of people who are ready to bench Tommy DeVito, and I don't think that's accurate.
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And I think we also saw that Rex Culpepper just doesn't have the consistent and see to be a starting quarterback.
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That can lead Syracuse, uh, to anything resembling success this year.
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That being said, I don't think either quarterback is being helped very much by the overall offensive scheme that Syracuse is running.
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And partially that comes down to some limitations based off of the offensive line and injury.
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But I will say that it's kind of embarrassing that it took basically six quarters before Syracuse was able to get into any sort of offensive rhythm this season.
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And in the third quarter, all that offensive rhythm got pretty much derailed because of the DeVito screen pick and just someplace where pit blew up the blew up Syracuse spot and killed any momentum that they had, and it's I mean, I guess just a harp on that.
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The the offense finally started to find itself a little on that was actually of you behind a curtain.
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For anybody who's listening to this, uh, writing these three takeaways, it's always a very ebb and flow thing because you're doing it in real time with the game so coming out of the second, like I literally like going toe have I had the one of one of the what turned into what the offensive take away was was literally.
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Offense starts to find itself.
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Still, plenty of questions that got changed pretty quickly to offense and play calling added more question marks once we saw the second half of the game.
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But, you know, even some of the second quarter.
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But it was it really like you started to see some production, you started to see the ground and click a little, uh, George Jordan finally found his legs.
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Sean Tucker seems to be.
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He might be able to, um, fill that power back role quite nicely, So there's plenty of plenty of positives to take out of what we saw piecemeal.
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Um, we saw a Richard senior tackle, put in a 16.
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9 on Pff for pass blocking.
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I don't know if he was that bad, but there were definitely a couple of, uh, matador moments, if you will, Where the de Lyon and and it's something that I've thought about service for a while.
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I've really, like a lot of things.
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He's done Speed Rush on the end is it's not his strength.
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Um, Federal O, on the other hand, used to handle this speed like last year.
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Handled the speed rest.
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Okay, because his big issue was somebody coming back across his face.
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Like there's each lineman has their limitations, has their issues.
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They're gonna find that film, they're gonna exploit it.
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Hopefully, service can keep his hips a little tighter next week.
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I don't know what Kevin was gonna do for adjustments, but, um, you know, if he keeps his hips square, he actually kicked steps instead of just, you know, he would take one step and then turn, And as soon as you give up your hips, you're completely screwed.
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Trying toe actually write a tactical out.
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So in that case of the speed rushing PN, so, um, I don't know I got derailed because I got disrespected by offensive line talk.
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Uh, but, you know, there were There were some good things.
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There were plenty of bad things.
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Like the *** seven, ***.
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Um, again, there were a number that we're not the offensive line's fault, that we're coverage *** that, uh, maybe we didn't check down on that.
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He didn't find more than his first read.
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And that was that, Um, And similarly to what? If you guys have heard three game show, I know Christian and I went back and forth a little utilizing some of the and Kevin, especially Kevin's a huge tight end stand.
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So hey, was he was bringing it up on day it with the tenants.
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We have gratefully so but any sort of delay edge and any sort of leaks, any sort of, you know, give give, give your blacker or the guy you're blocking a punch and then release off him for Ah, quick check down like we didn't see any of that.
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And the way the way things were going, why don't you put something like that in the playbook? Why isn't there something to mix up a little? Um Yeah, I think I think that's the really hard part is because the way that Syracuse open to the game was with a fantastic amount of tempo, which has been a big criticism that I've had since.
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DeVito has been a quarterback where the tempo really fell off last year, and that was something that I know John and Kevin really harped on with why Syracuse's offense circled was that typically, they're snapping the ball with 22 15 seconds left on the play clock when the offense is going right.
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But last year it was much more closer to five seconds.
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They're running the play clock all the way down, And that's just not the way that this offense is going to be successful if they don't have the better athletes, which isn't gonna happen in the A C.
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C Um, and we saw them start to pick game off with an insane amount of tempo.
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We saw that lead to a lot more wide receiver separation, a lot more conservative play by the pit defense in order to just kind of make sure that they didn't let anything get behind them, and DaVita was able to make plenty of throws.
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He was able to hit guys on short, out routes.
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He was able to hit a lot of comebacks.
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That allowed the wide receivers to make plays after the catch, which I think is probably the safest and most basic version of this offense that has success.
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The problem.
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Waas.
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As soon as things got into a rhythm, the play calls suddenly changed.
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And it was if Gilbert was over thinking like I I don't know exactly what what the process is there because you know, is the only person who answers questions.
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We can exactly dive.
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Deepen does and you know, is very good at avoiding specific questions.
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But it almost felt like Gilbert was was thinking that Pit was going to adjust, so he wanted to adjust first but pit.
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But no team has done that so far.
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North Carolina didn't do that, and Pitt didn't do that.
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There have been no defensive adjustments against Syracuse because they know that the offense is eventually going to beat itself.
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And that's what Syracuse did, especially in the red zone.
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And I feel like that is somewhere where, um, I'm going to be a Dino defender and I'm going to be a, you know, a Gilbert defender to the extent of I want to see him have a few games under his belt.
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But that off that red zone play calling was absolutely atrocious.
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Like there.
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There is no making up for getting into the red zone on amazing wide receiver tree that saw Courtney Jackson wide open and then immediately going toe a power running game when you were spread passing offense was clearly working right, and that's I You might be onto something where Gilbert's tryingto overthink it.
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And I I wonder if that's kind of the same thing that Lynch ended up after Lewis left.
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Um, I don't know what to people.
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You kind of I can't I don't know what the dynamic was like, but, you know, you're bouncing stuff off each other like there's Ah, it is not It's not on you and you're not having to play, you know, 40 hs against Narduzzi and figure out what the hell he's thinking.
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Because God knows what the hell that is.
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Uh, like great football mind Don't want to get inside that head.
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No, but yeah, it zvehr e odd to see.
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See? See the offense move away from what was working as quickly as they did.
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Like Look, look at the opposite of it, where you have something like last year when BC played against us and Steve Addazio entire offensive plan was give them all A J Dillan left.
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Give the ball.
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They don't right, Prince repeat.
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And it kept working.
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So they kept going with it until someone stops what you're doing, you know? Yeah, maybe make some tweaks, maybe throw something in there, but keep coming back to what works.
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So yeah, and I think that was and I think that was the most frustrating part because this was a conversation that I was having on the side with some Syracuse friends who were really talking about.
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I think this is a larger conversation that we can have after we talked about this game a little bit more, which is there's after the Camping World Bowl.
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There was this expectation that Syracuse had turned the corner and we obviously at news magician and kind of said, pause on that.
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That's not the way college football works for a non power top 10 team.
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Um, and for Syracuse, it ultimately fell on to veto.
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And DeVito looked good, that threat that his freshman year, when he didn't have any expectations on him and then once expectations started half getting piled onto him.
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We saw him kind of struggle, and Jon kinda called it out that DeVito has been incredibly risk averse, and that is exactly the opposite of what Eric Dunshee Waas.
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And there's obviously pros and cons to both styles of play.
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But what we've seen is that you can't call.
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You can't call Syracuse games whichever way you want to and then expect the team to figure it out because that's just not what the quarterbacks going to dio.
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So if you're the play caller, you have to know that your quarterback is very risk averse is going to take the conservative option more than the big play option.
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And you have to work around that or you have to change your quarterback, and I'm not sure where the disconnect is.
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But there's very clearly clearly intention on the offensive side of the ball when it comes to the general philosophy of how we like this offense to run well.
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There was a point e remember where in the game.
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It was where it was one of the first series that Rex was in.
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It might have been the second Siri's he was when he was when he was still in, after DeVito would have come back in, Um, and they came off the sideline and I can't remember what was Harris or might have been actually might have been.
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Courtney Jackson, uh, came off and was talking to DeVito, and it looked like Culpepper was ****ed at them.
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And I was just like, This is a weird situation and I'll have to look back on it like it's not like I'm trying to start any rumors or anything, but it's like there was There's a level of frustration at that point in the game where you're just like nothing's working.
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I can see every every piece of the puzzle like isn't quite fitting.
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So you know once once we start to see what direction this is going to take, I think Tommy DeVito style our guy like I don't think there's any point in from what we've seen, putting it on Rex Culpepper.
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And I know the Syracuse Twitter out is all over.
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You know Culpepper like it's you know, I don't even know what. Good ****ogy.
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I'm sure there's something out there, but they really want to see him in there.
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And it's like, Did you watch every throw? Except for the touchdown and even the touchdown? He kind of was behind his guy like he kind of hugged it out there for Harris.
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Harris made a move to catch it and then made two guys miss three guys.
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Two or three guys, miss.
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But two guys and Narduzzi basically said there should have been a third guy there to stop it from happening.
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So there, the whole set up was, you know, yes, the complete what about 40 yard completion, and then who knows what would happen after that? But every other throw we saw from him wasn't anything to write home about.
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Like I do like that.
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He's much more decisive.
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If we could combine the decisiveness of him with the, you know, passing accuracy of DeVito, I'd say it would be in pretty decent shape.
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Mhm.
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But we got one of the other, so Oh, that's where we're at.
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Yeah, and I think that if you want listen, I understand the idea of the wrecks thing was a very cool moment.
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I'm glad I got the publicity that Rex deserves for working back and being able to make that throw.
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But at the same point.
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Dude, on that last drive when Syracuse is Syracuse last offensive drive when they're not really in the game.
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But they have a chance to make it a one possession game and you've got a third and medium and forth and medium and you miss too wide open guys on out routes.
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If you can't make that throw with the Division one level, you're not a quarterback of the division one level.
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Both times that, I think both times it was the Courtney Jackson.
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Both times Jackson was wide open, and both times the ball was in catchable.
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I'm pretty sure that was the Siri's that I was talking about.
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Like seeing the frustration after because it was definitely, um, it was palpable.
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Like you could tell the whole And at that point, you know, the offense was sputtering.
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Very hardly, hardly.
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Just go with it.
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Um uh, and yeah, this is my first beer tonight.
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Three offense just wasn't really doing what they, you know, are designed to do, and the frustration was just coming out.
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And it's understandable.
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Like when you're when you're sitting in that situation on the road against, you know, yes, If everybody was playing pit, probably get ring right now, but you know, you're ranked.
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They're currently ranked of the teams that are playing their their, um, and they that that's the thing is that defensive front is solid.
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And those DVDs, I mean, Paris forward is probably gonna end up somewhere, Um, the D line, even without okay, you want to say walk ins, But it's not that.
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Pop it out.
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Uh, yeah, I'll remember later in the show he'll.
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But even without him, that's still one of the top defensive lines in the league.
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And you know, we did what we did with them.
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So we'll see what happens against a Georgia Tech team that isn't nearly either of those teams.
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Hopefully, I mean, who knows what this year, right? And I think that's I think that's the caveat that I don't think a lot of Syracuse fans are really taking into account their seeing two games to open the season.
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They're seeing Syracuse lose both games by double digits when the and we said This is the when the moment that schedule dropped, we said that.
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It's incredibly like at Syracuse loses all of its road games.
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And that is because Syracuse, all of their road games against top half of the A C C teams and the team is just not in a position to pull one of even one of those upsets in less than things go incredibly right for them and incredibly wrong for the team.
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And I think what's been really frustrating is that Pitt very much did not want to win the game.
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But Pitt has more talent.
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At least pit is a better football team right now that Syracuse is.
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I don't know if they have more talent, but they're very clearly clearly a better team and know what their strengths are and know how to utilize those strengths more consistently.
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Yeah, I mean, they've consistently been recruiting better in Syracuse that consistently had bowl games like there's you can't take that away from them like there.
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As much as I don't want it to be the better program at present there, they're in a better spot than Syracuse is.
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So, um, yeah, I guess, uh, we we touch on everything that the honest did wrong.
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Anything on the defense and what they did, right? Oh, my God.
00:19:37
Uh, Steve, I think you and I are going to use Star A like a fan group for Tony White.
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I know that there's some crazy people who already positioning him to be head coach, which were not there.
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But I will say what he has done with this defense and with this group of defenders has made me like I'm not watching the football game for the end result.
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I am watching toe watch what Syracuse does on defense every time, because I have not.
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And this is this is going to be absolutely not to say I have never seen Syracuse line up in the same formation in back to back place and do the same thing in back to back plays every single time.
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They're creating new looks, they're trying to do something different, and they're putting players in amazing positions to succeed.
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And I was very excited because Michelle Jones had a fantastic game and I have been standing for that since he signed his letter of intent to play at Syracuse that kid is going to be a stud, and he is the perfect tweener player to go to Syracuse.
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He's too much of a good athlete to go toe a Mac or to go, you know, outside of the Power five.
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But he's not prototypical size.
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He cannot go to, you know, a Top 25 program and expect to get any playing time before his junior senior year.
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We can come to a Syracuse, go into a unique situation, and he's got the talent to succeed a power five level.
00:20:58
So Jones look good again on by the linebackers.
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I know Christian actually gave them an A in his his ratings, which the way they played, okay, I mean, you talk about tweeners that made the rate of Syracuse trawl Richard that has come back and made it with a bang with a second a tackle for loss.
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So not too bad there.
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Young Marlo Wax had his I don't know if he got any steps the first week, but he definitely made his name in the second week.
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So hey was in there, you know, mixing it up at least a tackle for a loss.
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Um, Stefan Thompson and can argue both looked as good as they didn't Week one.
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Yeah, Thompsons.
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Thompsons Only mistake was the roughing the passer call, which was most people agreed was not a roughing the passer call e.
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I mean, that was a and I hate to I'm not one thio bitter moment, the refs.
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But that three penalty Siri's the What was it p I roughing the P I stop him roughing the passer.
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Stop him P. I again.
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And it was just like get You can't dig out of that.
00:22:10
No and somehow pit.
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You know, Pit missed the kick, which ultimately ended up being like, I guess, karma because they should not have been in that position, but still from a game perspective.
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And that's put him behind the eight ball later in the game.
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And, yeah, you know, they you know, they bended without breaking.
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But at the same time, like, you know, the last last couple of drives could have been much different if they had fresh legs or any of those.
00:22:41
Any of those switched momentum in Syracuse direction.
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You know, that was also I can't remember one that wasn't a game, but it was it was when things were still kind of up in the air before Syracuse's offensive ineptitude kind of cut up with them.
00:22:55
So, yeah, I don't know.
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And it's It's, I think, um, from like from the defensive side, that's that's going to be the most difficult part of the years that you're going to see the defense hold firm.
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And unless the offense gets better, the the defense is just going to get broken at some point time, Um, and it's it's going to be frustrating and it's going to be annoying.
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But for the most part, I think that when you're looking at a per play basis when you're looking at a per Dr basis, the Orange defense is going to be a top half a C C defense, which is phenomenal and shows one.
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Brian Ward really wasn't going to bring the right scheme to what he had at Syracuse.
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Um, but also to that Syracuse Is that Dino Babers recruiting strategy for defensive players of Just get the freaks here, get the athletes here, um, can work at the level.
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They might not be as highly ranked as a lot of other schools, but there's a way to be successful here.
00:24:04
Andi, I think what made me really excited just from a week to week progression standpoint, I think that's the way that we need to view Syracuse this year is how do they look week to week? How do they progress is a team? Last week against North Carolina, we saw that the front three and whatever player they kind of rolled up into to create a front four.
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Those four players were always able to get into the backfield and create pressure by themselves.
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Pit did a much better job handling those those front four, whatever they were, and what Syracuse was able to adjust to is that they were able to bring 1/5 guy to bring pressure find wherever Pit was going to miss them and put that player in the right position.
00:24:46
And that's squarely on coaching.
00:24:48
That's squarely and scouting and close to the entire defensive staff.
00:24:52
Or identifying that pretty early on and being able to ensure that I think Kenny pick it ended up having like a pretty great game stat wise.
00:25:00
But he did not look comfortable for more than a few plays at a time he was definitely had a hand in his face most of the day.
00:25:07
Which credit to bear Williams, who? You know.
00:25:11
It's not gonna look like it on the stat sheet, but he made the most of him, matching up with a NFL center.
00:25:18
Jimmy Morrissey will be playing at the next level, and he made the most of his opportunity against him.
00:25:25
Like to be a two Gap guy against the senator like that.
00:25:29
It takes a lot, and it's not gonna look impressive on the stat sheet.
00:25:33
But he did his job and he did it as well.
00:25:36
As you know, we'd expect him to.
00:25:39
So figured I'd just get a plug for the plug for the big guy in there.
00:25:44
Okay? And I think if we're gonna kind of wrap up like the defensive conversation, it wasn't all perfect.
00:25:51
Um, the secondary got a little bit exposed.
00:25:53
Garret Williams in particular.
00:25:55
We kind of have talked about a lot about trill about Cisco.
00:26:00
Um, Cooley had a pretty quiet game, but that was again partially because they were just avoiding him.
00:26:06
Which is gonna happen.
00:26:07
Um Oh, God.
00:26:11
Jihad Carter.
00:26:12
That's what was in Dzhokhar Carter.
00:26:14
Yeah, he and you know, you could tell us his first game in the system and that he was looking a little shaky, but, um, I think he settled in a little more as the game went on.
00:26:25
Uh, what? What you did see was pick it kind of taking advantage of some of those seems in that deep zone coverage.
00:26:31
Um, especially with that triumvirate of, uh in between, like Cisco Carter at the time and trill.
00:26:38
Um, if you've got two guys coming up and trails running off with somebody, you can slide some late delay or slide some seamer out in there.
00:26:47
And the two of the first two touchdowns were just that, you know, they just found gaps in the coverage, and I think we still looked good when we're playing men.
00:26:59
I think we had a couple of a couple of issues when we were playing zone.
00:27:02
So, um uh, and that z gonna happen with Cisco, especially as the rover, as opposed to the guy up top, because Cisco it was always going to look for the big play.
00:27:13
He's going to be more aggressive and play closer to the line than he is going to be willing to drop back into coverage and just let the play happen in front of him.
00:27:21
That's just kind of the nature of who he is, which is again, why he's probably playing the river position because it puts him in a better position to impact place.
00:27:29
But to your point, a smart play caller, a veteran quarterback with a you know, a veteran tight end are going to see that and just lick their lips and go, This is Weaken.
00:27:40
Definitely hit them a couple of times.
00:27:41
Yeah, Picket, in his 17th year starting, is going to find that going to find that open, man, Um, that's a you mentioned Gary Williams.
00:27:50
Um, I don't It's weird because yes, he was exposed a couple of times, but I think still, for the amount that they went at him just because your other option is if he like, we're going to see we're going to see Williams look worse than he actually is this year, just because of the fact that they're not going to want to throw them all final.
00:28:10
Yeah, that's a good point.
00:28:11
You're gonna have if you blanket it on your top guy and it's gonna be number two on number two, and Williams is Richard.
00:28:19
Freshman is a very, very solid player, but he does still have his weaknesses because he's young, So we'll see.
00:28:26
We'll see how he develops and how it keeps up.
00:28:28
I mean, he had to stand out first week like you said, he was a little shakier this week, but, um, and right behind him, you've got Neil Nanda filling some gaps to so that that three d the cornerback I'm quite happy with.
00:28:41
Yeah, I think it's absolutely wild.
00:28:44
But I'm looking at all the teams that Syracuse is going to play at home this year, and I legitimately think that the defense could hold them to under 20 points a game.
00:28:52
Um, whether or not the offenses able to outscore, that is entirely other issue.
00:28:56
That is problematic.
00:28:58
But that being said, this is probably the best I've felt about a Syracuse defense period in my time of being a fan since Doug Marrone was at the helm, which is insane.
00:29:10
Uh, and that was back in the days when we all like Scott Shaffer defense's uh well.
00:29:17
Those defense's knew how to stop a running based attack something happened in the meantime, that allowed him Thio.
00:29:23
Not even when you bring a, uh, speaking of triple option Georgia Tech, next week's opponent.
00:29:30
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00:29:33
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00:31:53
Um, but talking about talking about the Ramblin wreck, I was gonna say There's Georgia Tech does not have a home field.
00:32:02
He also there for Syracuse is already the superior school.
00:32:05
Syracuse playing Georgia Tech at home.
00:32:08
First game in the new quote unquote stadium.
00:32:11
Um, there's a lot of things that we could talk about, but I think we should probably start with the obvious.
00:32:20
Georgia Tech no longer runs the triple option.
00:32:22
Everybody, they do have a dual threat quarterback.
00:32:26
However, they're trying to transition into a West Coast game, and they beat Florida State in the opener.
00:32:33
So, in a weird way, at the Florida State, a pile of garbage Onda offensive line hasn't gotten any better.
00:32:42
And they still want you.
00:32:43
They still only lost butter one by three.
00:32:46
If I remember, it was 16 13 or something like that.
00:32:49
There's some weird, weird score.
00:32:51
Um, it wasn't quite a okay.
00:32:55
Yeah, it wasn't quite a score got me, but it was weird one.
00:32:59
Um I guess toe open it up.
00:33:02
Since I guarantee you haven't looked yet.
00:33:04
What do you think the line is? I have not looked. That was a great call.
00:33:09
If I'm Vegas, I'm going to see Syracuse going Oh into.
00:33:12
And I'm going to see Georgia Tech beating, um, Florida State.
00:33:15
And I'm gonna give Georgia Tech six points.
00:33:19
Three for Syracuse.
00:33:20
I miss a Georgia Tech. 3.5.
00:33:22
George takes 7.5.
00:33:24
Oh, so they think that they basically think that we're talking about at home? Yeah.
00:33:31
Which means that they think that Georgia Tech should win.
00:33:33
Could win by two possessions.
00:33:35
So, personally, I don't think so.
00:33:39
I don't know.
00:33:40
I want to see a little of not so much what they did against Florida staple What they did against UCF this week because it didn't look nearly as impressive just from a scoreline alone.
00:33:50
But, um, if I have a spare minute, I'll probably look back on.
00:33:55
You know what? What they were doing.
00:33:57
So, um yeah, I guess the biggest seems to think we're that much of a dog.
00:34:05
It's not like again.
00:34:07
I think Vegas is a lot like a lot of our our fans pretty temperamental.
00:34:11
I think most of us that the news magician office, um, saw the big line against Pitt and smashed the and smashed Syracuse to cover because we knew that the defense was way better than Vegas That it was and knew that, um, Syracuse would keep it close, which they did.
00:34:27
And I'd like to point out all the pit fans who were like their pits gonna hang 40 plus on them.
00:34:32
You don't judge what your team does against an FBS opponent or FCS opponent on think that they can replicate that against a Power five team.
00:34:42
Syracuse looked amazing against their FCS team last year and they were still not great.
00:34:47
Um, now we look like garbage the week after and the week after that.
00:34:50
So, yeah, so, uh, through you Pitt fans.
00:34:54
But for the Georgia Tech side of things, I think I don't think that Syracuse is going to have is bad of a line.
00:35:00
Is Florida State on bear? Definitely not as good as you, CF.
00:35:04
So I think it'll be a close game.
00:35:06
But ultimately, when you look at Georgia Tech, um, their offense is pretty one dimensional.
00:35:12
They've got a really talented running back and everything else is what you would expect of a triple option team trying to transition into a modern offense where there's not a whole lot going on a lot of other positions.
00:35:25
So on paper, the matchup looks good for Syracuse on the for Syracuse defensive side on Syracuse offensive side of the ball during checks.
00:35:34
Defense is not all that special.
00:35:37
If and here's the big if, if they can keep them out of the backfield.
00:35:42
Yeah, and I mean, Georgia Tech opened with very well opened last week.
00:35:48
Um, yeah, I don't know.
00:35:52
I don't even know where to go with this.
00:35:53
Like they got picked apart by UCF, who has a very, very solid quarterback and a very, very solid receiver corps.
00:36:01
So we don't we have the potential to have those, Um, we'll see what actually happens against the jury.
00:36:09
Tech defense.
00:36:11
Uh, like you said, much of that is completely predicated on whether the line can pull themselves together.
00:36:17
Actually get something going.
00:36:19
I again for the record, have not started my rewatch, so I don't really have any insights on that, but well, we'll see what happens.
00:36:29
Uh, if that turned it.
00:36:31
If that speed rush off the end, that, um, didn't look that great.
00:36:36
Pff may become a thing.
00:36:40
We may have to see some changes quicker than we thought.
00:36:44
So I think one of the things that I'm most interested in looking at was that to your point, we saw two running backs kind of come out of this game, and they didn't look great.
00:36:52
They look better than any running backs, really have, um, since the beginning of the season, which is in a large sample size. But whatever.
00:37:01
Um, where I'm going, Is it Sean? It's not Sean List's not Sean Davis.
00:37:08
Is, uh Tucker? Yes, Sean Tucker.
00:37:12
Thank you.
00:37:13
I don't know why I kept wanting to get that wrong.
00:37:16
Um, but Tucker looked really competent.
00:37:20
Um, as as the power back and more importantly, and we kind of talked about this in slack during game.
00:37:27
Syracuse was doing a much better job run blocking specifically behind Chris Elmore and I couldn't see anything scheme wise that was going on, other than it looked like they were doing a much better job of ensuring that Elmore was getting some leverage against the defense that whatever defensive player he was lined up against because he was actually driving the guy backwards instead of really kind of defending and forcing the running back to kind of work around him, which I don't know if that scheme or if that was just matchup e No, we had talked about it.
00:38:01
I'll take a bigger look at that.
00:38:03
But, you know, with all more being a under sized guard, um, one of the biggest things is going to be getting on that next level.
00:38:12
And he's going to be as quick as most of those linebackers and 30 £40 bigger than them and used to blocking on the run from playing fullback.
00:38:23
So if we can find a way to, you know, get veteran low and service toe kind of come through and take off kind of work a two man scheme on a lot of those blocks and get him up to the next level, that's probably quite beneficial.
00:38:37
Um, same thing with the pulling, like if he's either kicking and end out or getting up in the hole.
00:38:43
I mean, you're you're in a much better situation than you could have been, so I'd say they just continue to try and take advantage of his athleticism and go from there.
00:38:54
Yeah, and I want to kind of see Syracuse basically combine all the good things that happened against the pick game.
00:39:01
The very few of them which were the high tempo and the mixing in of running in the passing game.
00:39:09
Instead of committing toe one or the other for an entire drive.
00:39:11
Like I want to see Tucker gets, um, gets, um, Gap, you know, up the middle runs.
00:39:17
But I also want to see them like, not do that for three straight plays.
00:39:21
I want to see, you know, some passing plays mixed in just more diverse play calling, which I think and I think against Georgia Tech team were more likely to see some success than we are against Pitt or a U. N C.
00:39:33
It seems like, uh, I just randomly with the magic of the Internet pulled up a quick five takeaways from Georgia text game against UCF.
00:39:42
Apparently, there D line looked pretty rough, which should help our offensive line or be very telling for us as far as how far the mighty have fallen so that that's a least some a glimmer of hope.
00:39:58
Yeah, yeah, I don't know it, Za, probably this season is usually at this point we have We're into our third nonconference game, and we're warming up for a sec play versus just being thrown into the meat grinder and all right, let's see who comes out of this thing alive.
00:40:17
Yeah, I think it's I think it is interesting, because if the season had gone according to plan, um, Syracuse would have already played, um, Boston College and play.
00:40:31
Uh, that that was gonna be later.
00:40:35
It would have been Boston College, and it would have been, um, Liberty.
00:40:40
No, Liberty was gonna be home, no matter what.
00:40:42
Um, they were still Rutgers.
00:40:44
They were like, Yeah, which arguably Both these air.
00:40:48
Much worse than UNC and pit.
00:40:51
Um, I think they would have probably had a better record than go into maybe one in one, maybe two.
00:40:58
And oh, um, but I think at going into this third game of the year, it would just the conversation would be so different to your point and ramping up.
00:41:07
And it's think it's really difficult to say this but part of me, the eternal optimist wants to go.
00:41:14
Three.
00:41:15
Offense was purposely being one dimensional because they were basically treating pit and U.
00:41:20
N C.
00:41:21
Is warm up games.
00:41:22
It just so happened that neither pit or u.
00:41:23
N C really wanted to win those games, and therefore we feel worse.
00:41:27
It's about them.
00:41:29
Um, the other side of me says, Well, those the other optimists as well those air to better defense is that we're going to see in Georgia Tech.
00:41:37
So even if the scheme is somewhat limiting by design at this point, um, that limited scheme will still see some more success.
00:41:46
But from a prediction, stand up to your point.
00:41:47
Yeah, it doesn't by now we would have seen Syracuse have some or continued success against the lesser opponent on.
00:41:53
We have a much better idea of who's an actual playmaker versus um, man.
00:41:59
We're still running on hypotheticals for a lot of the stuff, and it's it's all gonna be matchups.
00:42:05
E mean, it always is matchups with some talent in there as well.
00:42:10
But Ling duke looks a lot worse than we thought they'd look.
00:42:15
Yeah, and see, state probably looks better than we thought they'd look.
00:42:19
Uh, huh? We'll see.
00:42:21
The more this flushes out exactly how these squads are gonna look.
00:42:25
Georgia Tech was picked to finish last and they came out and beat the, uh, Seminoles like Week one.
00:42:32
But that was also weak One.
00:42:34
So I don't know, the whole this whole season is just a crapshoot.
00:42:39
Coin flip, whatever you wanna call it.
00:42:41
Yeah, I think on that note like we can kind of talk about.
00:42:45
I think the last thing we should talk about is this larger conversation about what the heck's going on with Syracuse football on specifically within the context of this season.
00:42:52
I know people are really frustrated with how the last two games have gone, and there is a much louder their crowd arguing for change, which to your toe, what you said this season is an absolute um not Mulligan is the right word, but it's definitely it feels it feels like it could be a Mulligan in the actually, You know what? You're right.
00:43:19
Because at the beginning of the year, if you would have gone to me that this season was a Mulligan, I go.
00:43:23
No, because we're not gonna have Abdul Adams next year.
00:43:26
we're not gonna have Jarvie on.
00:43:27
We might have Jarvie on Howard.
00:43:29
Um, we're probably not gonna have Cisco.
00:43:31
We're not gonna have trill, um, all these different things, but with how Syracuse has chosen to handle the opting out of some of those players and in general, with how long they've gone across all positions, this does kind of feel like a Mulligan, and we're going to see most of the same team next year.
00:43:51
And what we're seeing is at least on one side of the ball, the system probably work, no matter what side of the ball, trying to find a way into the system.
00:44:07
Um, and this really does feel like a very much you're playing the practice games in Madden.
00:44:11
Except they count for something.
00:44:12
Yeah, and I mean the other thing.
00:44:16
The other thing, you have to think about what this season is for one sometimes got a full spring set in before Covic for Syracuse.
00:44:27
They were what, like, a couple days in, and they had to shut it down.
00:44:32
Um, like some schools had done their stuff early march.
00:44:36
Some schools have done their stuff in February like the spring season isn't a set time.
00:44:41
It's whenever you can fit it in.
00:44:42
So ah, lot like some of these teams might have gotten significantly more reps in the spring.
00:44:47
Some of these schools might have brought their kids back.
00:44:49
Earlier in the summer, Syracuse played it very close to the vest.
00:44:51
They played it very safe, Which, to me, was the smart thing to do because, you know, it makes sense to me.
00:44:57
Um, but, you know, I'm gonna stick to just being a biologist.
00:45:01
I don't know, you know, follow the science.
00:45:06
Um, don't put a bunch of kids in a giant Petri dish and see what happens.
00:45:11
Like my buddy and I were having this existential conversation the other day about how all of us don't feel great about the fact that they're even playing this season.
00:45:23
But we're also very excited to watch on Saturday.
00:45:25
So it's like this weird dichotomy of like, I don't think they should be playing.
00:45:29
But if they're going to play, I'm going to watch them, right.
00:45:32
And I think that this is the mentality of a lot of people are dealing with.
00:45:35
I definitely struggled with it.
00:45:37
Um, but at the same point and I think this is where a lot of the frustration comes in is because of all that because of everything that's going on.
00:45:46
People when they watch this, want to be entertained in the easiest way to be entertained is to see your team win.
00:45:54
And someone said, When all this is happening and Syracuse doesn't win, it just feels so much worse than in a normal season.
00:46:05
And it's tough because on the one hand, I kind of hope that Wild Hack went Dino and said that wins and losses from this season don't matter.
00:46:14
They don't count, and we're seeing on in some situations, decision making.
00:46:21
That kind of reflects that we're seeing a lot of youth.
00:46:23
That probably wouldn't be the case if this season if Dino was actually on the hot seat, Um, on the you know.
00:46:30
And on the flip side of that, um, for the people who are saying that, you know, because they're playing like it matters.
00:46:36
And this is an opportunity for Syracuse to take advantage of some of the weirdness.
00:46:39
Yeah, it's kind of frustrating to see you know, such a conservative offensive playbook and to see things not looking like they're jelling.
00:46:47
Even though both sides have new coordinators, one side is clearly figured it out.
00:46:51
Um, and I think what I'm trying to articulate in all this kind of rambling is just in general.
00:46:56
Um, I I was never going into this with the expectation that this season was going to happen, and I wasn't going into the expectation with the expectation that if this season happened, Syracuse will be good and I don't really know where other people got the idea that Syracuse was going to be good this year, and that's my disconnect.
00:47:19
But on that level, I think that you can still watch this team and be really entertained, especially with what the defense doing.
00:47:25
I think a lot of the disconnect, for one is that people didn't recalibrate expectations for the ancient schedule.
00:47:32
Yeah, way lost a game.
00:47:35
This guy were down to 11 games.
00:47:39
Of those 11 games, we kept the one out of conference that's that nobody wanted to keep, but we're still playing it, Um, and then we're buying 10 other A C C teams when were normally to less than that.
00:47:56
And those two crossovers in this case happened to be U N C.
00:48:01
Who is ranked number 18.
00:48:04
Thanks, guys.
00:48:05
And who else would we not normally play? Oh, the Notre Dame game.
00:48:10
You know those guys? Yeah. Yeah.
00:48:12
So two teams that air in the top 25 and in Notre Dame's case, the top end of the top 25.
00:48:22
So, like, we kind of got handed a **** sandwich, but and also where they were played to, like, all of the winnable games are at home or all of the winnable games are at home.
00:48:37
Um, which Sure, that's fine.
00:48:40
But being at home doesn't help you when you're already supposed to win the game.
00:48:43
Yeah, so traveling to Death Valley, traveling to North Carolina, traveling to Louisville and then in South event What s o.
00:48:58
I mean, without that recalibration, I could get why people who expected us toe have six wins in a bowl game coming out of this year with the old schedule.
00:49:07
You know, three of those four games, we're gonna be out of conference wins and then you have to win three SEC games.
00:49:14
That's much more manageable than try and pin together five or six wins out of this schedule.
00:49:21
Yeah, this and I know I think that's why um, it hasn't started yet, But I think there's gonna be a lot of conversation this week about how this is a must win how this is, you know, a game to determine this season, which I don't think any of those things are true.
00:49:40
But that will be a narrative that gets played out as Georgia Tech again projected to be the bottom end of the A C C.
00:49:48
Syracuse has them at home, winning them kind of resets.
00:49:51
Ah, lot of conversations about what this team is and how good this team is when, in reality, I I don't think that Syracuse was ever going to be anything more than the top off the bottom tier of the A C C.
00:50:07
Like there's there's like four or five schools that are clearly in that bottom tier.
00:50:11
I don't think that with to your point there, what with the schedule that Syracuse was handed, there was no way they were going to rise above the bond.
00:50:20
The top of that bottom group that sounds sounds about as accurate is going to come.
00:50:25
So um, yeah, it's expectations were weird thing Yeah, they really are.
00:50:33
And they're a hell of a drug.
00:50:35
Yeah.
00:50:36
Tommy DeVito.
00:50:38
Uh, so this has been what has been a weird Yeah, Another great one, man.
00:50:44
We could the bye week conversations that we're going to have of just all the unanswered questions that are that have come up is gonna be fun. It's gonna be a great episode.
00:50:52
I cannot wait for that week.
00:50:57
Lighten buys are here to stay.
00:50:58
Um, yes.
00:51:00
So that's that's pretty much it.
00:51:02
I Listen, if you want to keep reading about what happened against Pitt, we've got plenty of coverage upon the news magician site, but I think it's better for everybody. Sanity.
00:51:10
If you just kind of start thinking about Georgia Tech, you start looking forward.
00:51:14
Yeah, like Steve and have to re watch the game to chart the offensive line.
00:51:19
Man, I can't wait, though that reading is always good.
00:51:22
It's always something.
00:51:24
I love to hate it, and I love to do it, but it's like it.
00:51:29
Oh, God, it's even good games.
00:51:32
It's a slog just because, like, I literally go back through and rewind each play about 25 times to see what the hell actually happened, and it's it's very trying, but got to get the information out there, man, and I think it's become even better just because the offensive line has become the point on the offensive like that.
00:51:56
That's all that matters.
00:51:57
Is the offensive line right now, Somebody, somebody's gotta look at what's actually going on, so I guess I'm stuck with it.
00:52:04
You're stuck with it because of the person who we know is doing.
00:52:07
Is Tom Cavanagh, who is not allowed to talk to us like the Oh yeah, Tom.
00:52:12
Kevin was an actor.
00:52:14
E was thinking a big Tom Callahan from Tommy Boy.
00:52:17
My, uh, slightly different My brain is very much still in pop culture trivia brain.
00:52:25
So I got I got a recalibrate to sports brain for the rest of this week.
00:52:30
But Steve, this was this was really great thistles, the****utic.
00:52:35
In a way, I think that we needed to just kind of expel that pit game from everybody System.
00:52:39
Yeah, yeah, you know, a nice, nice venting session on the game and take it from there.
00:52:46
Yeah, we'll be back again next week at eight PM to talk about whatever happens this Saturday We'll also have plenty of conversations about the new Syracuse stadium.
00:52:56
Experience it Z.
00:52:59
I want to make that very clear.
00:53:01
According to Syracuse Public Communications, it is not the dome.
00:53:04
It is the Syracuse to 80.
00:53:06
Um, so, yeah, I did notice that the game week notes they did mention the carrier dome, but that that was not referenced in a way that meant current stadium.
00:53:17
Yes, the according to my friend who works in the office.
00:53:21
Um, the rule is that whenever there addressing that complex in the present tense, it is the stadium.
00:53:30
Hmm.
00:53:32
Yeah.
00:53:33
E did see that They can alter the leaves, though, which is kind of nice s I'm a midnight madness will be, like pure rave rave vibe going on.
00:53:46
I really hope that the leads could be changed, like in the moment, as opposed to just like, we're gonna pick one color for the night.
00:53:52
And it can it can actually be flashing because I think we could have a lot of fun with that.
00:53:56
I'm pretty sure, uh, just knowing what the grid building does downtown because we redid for people who don't know I work for National Grid, but they re did the building lights a couple of years ago, and they could like changing on the fly and that they had this big do.
00:54:12
So led setups are pretty impressive.
00:54:15
I want blue and orange lights after every touchdown.
00:54:18
There you go.
00:54:19
Just the whole stadium goes blue and orange back and forth.
00:54:22
Listen, there's nobody in this in the stadium except for the media and for the players this time.
00:54:27
So screw around with new stuff.
00:54:29
Try something new.
00:54:30
I ended up e really like wish I could have brought myself to go up there for the first game in the Dome, but, like, I don't know, I would just have introduced sitting in the press box with a bunch of other people.
00:54:43
I It's to be fair.
00:54:46
It's great that it's a new stadium.
00:54:48
Kudos to the reporters who go go for it.
00:54:52
But, man, it's There's still no way air conditioning in there.
00:54:55
It's not gonna be comfortable and there's no area well going.
00:54:58
Did he ever say when? When that's official, I Okay, This is where I have to be.
00:55:05
Very careful here.
00:55:06
Uh, so I don't know.
00:55:09
I have heard.
00:55:10
I don't know if I've heard this officially, if I've heard this unofficially or if I've unofficially officially been told, I believe 2022 2022 23.
00:55:23
Re season is when we have it for a full season.
00:55:26
I think the goal is to have it like by, like summer 2022.
00:55:31
But, um, that something in my brain says that because there is no fan, if there's no fans, these plans could be altered.
00:55:41
Which makes sense, because if you're not dealing with large influxes of crowd for sporting events, you could get a lot more done.
00:55:49
So, yeah, you don't quite have to clear out the corridors as much.
00:55:53
Yeah, so I don't I in, in a way, for those wondering, not going to the Carrier Dome This basketball season might be beneficial for you in the long run and not just recovered.
00:56:04
Not just for Kobe.
00:56:05
You might get air conditioning next year.
00:56:06
Goddammit! That be have the dome.
00:56:11
The stadium.
00:56:12
Sorry.
00:56:13
Uh, half very conditioning will be the greatest, greatest day ever.
00:56:18
It's the people I normally sit next to in the press box, but sorry.
00:56:23
To be fair, it probably will be marked as it will become a trivia question for so many people.
00:56:29
Like, you know, that's gonna be a thing.
00:56:31
Like on what? Data carrier don't officially get air conditioning.
00:56:34
I mean, it's still like the first talking point for every SportsCastr of like, Oh, you know, the Carrier Dome doesn't have air conditioning, huh? Yes.
00:56:43
Thank you.
00:56:44
For those who just sit there during football season, we appreciate this from the person who to dress up as a giant orange and beyond the crap from beyond the field man or up in the third row in the middle.
00:56:55
Like you're the third deck in the middle of, uh, like first week football.
00:57:00
There's the I'll just never forget giving somebody giving some woman ah, hug and she just pulling away and being and being physically damp because my arms and sweat so much that they were damp and she just went.
00:57:15
That's disgusting.
00:57:16
I was like it.
00:57:17
If it's disgusting for you, it's disgusting.
00:57:20
For me, right? Yeah.
00:57:22
And in your case, you're only reaction.
00:57:24
Could be sorry.
00:57:28
You want to bug us? Uh uh.
00:57:33
We've completely derailed this happy, Happy Sunday night, Steve.
00:57:37
There you go.
00:57:39
Thank you, everybody for listening a zoo always.
00:57:42
Eight PM next Sunday.
00:57:43
We will have amazing courage all this week on new tradition dot com and go orange go orange.

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