so glad you're able to join us tonight.
Uh, this is gonna be an exciting what I'm having, um, really excited to bring on Jordan Childs here does social media for unwrapped sports.
And this guy's got a lot of thoughts here tonight.
I'll say that everybody that's ready for some hot takes for some for some ****y dialogue.
You came to the right place.
Jordan's got it. Ready to go for you guys.
So, um Jordan Glad you're back on, man.
I know it hasn't been that long since you were on, I think, maybe, like, a couple months, But, man, like I saw you going ham.
What's that? The other night.
And I just said, Man, I got to get this guy back on to talk some Lakers in Western Conference because it z yeah, again, Thank you for having me on man love coming on and talking with you.
E mean, I've been on the Lakers train all year.
I mean, I thought I thought I thought they were the team to beat out West.
My guy in the Clippers understood the Clippers height, But you've been here? Yeah.
I mean, I think this is This is this is golden for me.
I wish that the battle of ballet was happening, but this is I was always higher on the Lakers and the Clippers, So I'm feeling good Last few days.
I've seen your social media.
I've seen you hyping him up.
You've been preaching LeBron's name eighties name all year long.
Both got selected Thio on and be a first team.
First time on quite a long time we've seen that feat accomplished.
So, man, just accolades Just running through the l A.
Well, that side of L.
Anyways, we're gonna get to the other side of here where things were going in the opposite direction.
Um, there's just rub it.
There's rubble everywhere.
There's just mass destruction.
The Clippers fan base is just taking shots from every direction.
It's just not a great time to be affiliated with the Clippers in any way.
I suggested on Twitter the other night that everybody go into hiding for at least until the end of the playoffs.
Delete all social media.
Just got to get your name out of there and just just keep ducking and bobbing and weaving.
Do what you gotta do to avoid social media because it's not not a good place to be right now for them.
But I wanted to talk about that.
Siri's with with Denver here with real quick with you, man, because that was just on incredible turn of events.
31 for the second time for Denver.
And before we slander the Clippers 1000 time, let's get the credit to the Nuggets band.
Let's talk about Yokich real quick and his contributions.
Look at his numbers here for the Siri's 24 13 6 assists, 1.
4 blocks and shot 51% from the field.
And almost 40% from was about to say that issue 40 from three because he was money all Siri's 39 a half.
So how many times per game attempts per game for him around 34? Probably, Yeah, yeah, I don't have the attempts in front of me, but definitely up this attempts from the regular season.
But eating them alive, it waas like that was the turning point for Yokich.
When he becomes aggressive.
Like, of course, he's a passer by nature.
That's his first inclination, but when he expands upon that to really make himself a legitimate threat to the defense, to do his own thing.
That's when it opened up everything for everybody, man.
When he when he's aggressive, he's like he shows you like shades of like a better passing Dirk with that fade away, the pick and pop ability like See that it's crazy, dude.
And I was saying it was saying it with my boys during um during Game seven like he had, what, 16 points? He only had 12 like throughout until midway through that fourth quarter and Murray had 40 and no one was like, not not saying no one.
I mean, people were obviously allotting toe how good Jamal Murray was, but the talk was dio Nikolai Yokich is He's just bawling right now, and he just has that ability at 7 ft tall to just take over a game back.
Just simply passing and picking up Our defense is like LeBron James.
Some of those passes were so LeBron like there was that one.
I instantly pulled out my phone and instantly texting my boys.
Hey, drove baseline or no, he drove to the foul on extended uh towards the end of the shot clock.
Look at he was about to take that.
That following standard jumper, he pump fakes.
I think he goes in the air, actually, and the corner of his eye, he sees Jeremy Grant the right just wing dish it out and right before the shot clock.
And Jamal Bond grand just hits that three on this.
I'm like, dude, that it's so LeBron like.
But yeah, I don't know, just I dio I don't want to say that we overrated the Clippers because they still there still a world where they win a ring.
But there is some flaws that we looked over all season just because how talented they are, definitely you want to get into those flaws that that they that they picked apart this year? Man, let's do it, man.
That was my first point here.
Or my second point, I should say, But the flaws of the Clippers initially I mean this what you were talking about, what their their chemistry.
And this is what I mentioned in the chat the other night.
They didn't really seem like they genuinely enjoy playing with each other, and I got more evident as the playoffs continued.
And you look at Denver.
Look at the Lakers.
Everything just flows.
They love playing with each other. They're laughing.
They're having a good time. Postgame.
They're all, like, you know, dabbing each other out, making these jokes.
It's like it's like the pressure just overwhelmed them.
You can see that in the way they conducted themselves, their body language.
Everybody just seemed like they had the weight of the world on their shoulders, which in some ways they did.
Yeah, I mean, but it also is self inflicted.
Don't don't come out here clowning the Lakers clowning, LeBron saying, We run L. A.
Like doing all this.
You guys haven't done anything as a group.
You ever done anything all year? Was I coming out of the Lakers camp? No, bro.
They put their head down and they were just grinding this season.
They took this **** serious all year.
They weren't clowning.
They weren't given into anything.
Pat Bev's antics, all that.
So, like at the end of the day, it sucks.
I am appalled, George Fan, and he was abysmal.
We'll get into that again.
But, dude, it was self inflicted, Like you laughed at Damian Lillard with with his flaws in that game, you Game one.
Patrick Beverley was going to the crowd in Staples like saying like We run this rerun this city like they they deserve all criticism that came to them because on top of just blowing a 31 lead, which in itself is embarrassing, you got blown out by 20.
Yeah, your two best players didn't show up.
Your sixth man of the year candidates got played off the court in those last three games, which we'll actually get into that right now, because that was one thing about the about the Clippers all year are skeptical about because you always heard about their depth and they played so hard.
And there's all those things.
Well, okay, yeah, they play hard and they have depth in the regular season, but Louisville and Montrezl Harrell as good as they as good as they are on the offensive end.
I mean, there are 12 punch like we like we probably have never seen off the bench in NBA history.
What about the other end when teams really are scouting.
It's a seven game.
Siri's hunting mismatches becomes more and more important, especially down the stretch of close games.
And those two guys get hunted.
We saw the game one of bubble against against the Lakers.
The Lakers came back and LeBron got into a rhythm by just attacking blue will every time in the switch.
And if to those two guys are really what people, when they allude to the Clippers, depth is who they're.
That's who they're talking about.
So you take those guys out of their depth because you really can't have them late in the game on the court.
If if someone's hunting them, think how good is their depth without those two guys, it's not as good as it's not as good as people think.
It's really not, and and their whole grinding hard, bringing up the intensity.
Uh, like just that whole street lights over spotlights like that grind mentality.
I mean, it got you a ton of winds and it's it's good toe have.
But what about in the playoffs when every other team takes it to that level, You are one of your strength is now neutralized.
Your to sixth Man of the year candidates that give you that depth that's not even just neutralize.
It actually becomes a negative to your team.
So that's why I always I always I mean, I'm a LeBron 10.
I'm gonna be biased anyway, So I thought the Lakers were gonna be ahead of them just because LeBron too.
But those were to just schematic flaws with the Clippers.
I think people just glossed over and they just they exposed it.
Yokich, Honestly, they blitz them and doubled them.
And if you blitz or doubled a pastor like Yokich, he's gonna eat you alive.
But they had no choice because Zu Boches he just can't garden space.
That's not his role.
His good friend, protector and mantra is, Is 68 Hey, plays a Yeah.
At some point it becomes too much overcome.
And I mean, I have the numbers pulled off for both of them during the Siri's Lou Williams man, hey only got to 35% from the field.
Uh, just he had 70 points total in the entire Siri's, which is surprising for a guy that you expect him to get you.
What, 2025 given that that's the expectation at this point.
And then, um, he he shot 14% from deep on, then Trez continue to be a liability of the foul line with 63% from the line on then you know he was good from the field.
But man, like those two guys like you, said it like their main issue was defensively.
Like Harold getting eaten alive by Yokich.
Yokich had too much size for him as hard as he plays and then with with Little Williams.
It was just like we saw in the regular season against the Lakers.
Like that last game, I believe for They just use those pick and rolls to get loose, switched on to somebody.
And then it wasn't necessarily that he got beat himself every time.
But when he becomes a liability, then the entire defense has to compensate.
And then that's where Denver utilized that swing game.
They got a lot of great passes, and that's when someone like Jeremy Grant or Gary Harris got open and Gary Harris, by the way, man, he was a big game changer in the Utah Siri's when he came back for that last game this Siri's.
He just got even better, like his defense was there from Day one.
But in this Siri's, he added on that offense, to go on top of it.
So in that last game, Game seven here, he scored, Um, I can't really said how much he scored.
He had six of 11 though, from the field.
So you add in that offense he became a great floor spacer that just opened up the floor even more so.
I mean, he was a big game changers for him.
They're just impactful on the defensive end if he gives you 23 threes a night, that that is so big for them and what she was, which he's been, what he's been doing.
And he did early on in his career.
Honestly, ever since the injuries, what two years ago, his percentage, oddly, has just plummeted.
But he's still a good shooter, like I wholeheartedly believe he's a better some of those guys.
They shoot like 40% on 2.
5 attempts and you're like, is he really a 40% 3 point shooter? He's like a low thirties and hey, just feels like a better three point shooter than that.
He he was before like he was.
That's why that's why I don't think that's another thing they were doing.
They were doubling off shooters, toe pick apart.
Yokich and I mean, he's, too. I know, I know.
It says he's a 30% 3 point shooter, but he just he feels like a better shooter than that.
That's one thing that I like about the Lakers in this Siri's.
They're not gonna have to double Yokich like like the Clippers had Thio.
You got a d, man. I mean, all defensive team.
Just one on one covers the entire time we'll set you up.
That's all they need.
But yeah, man, that that that whole Siri's, which just it kind of just blew my mind.
How quien PG is dynamic cause they've been all season.
Couldn't find it a Game seven.
And I was trying to figure exactly what we're Wang for him.
I think they really just forced the issue.
Like I remember a few possessions work Y was trying to utilize his strength and size in the paint, and, uh, you know, he just ran out of options.
It's like he just kind of went in.
He's like, This is what I'm gonna do Didn't have a Plan B and that's what happened A lot of times with the Clippers.
Bad shots, uh, they just got They just came into a panic, like just throwing up these threes or just going straight to the rim like they weren't thinking like, Hey, let's take what the defense gives us just like they had one option in their head and they're like, That's one way to do And the defense took that away And it's like, Hey, what you got that, Z? This is something I don't get about Doc Rivers and the Clippers In general, they didn't.
They weren't a really big team on running a lot of pick and rolls.
Besides Lou Will and mantra as, and they don't really mismatch hunt, and they have quite Leonard and Paul George.
I don't know why in any of these games why they didn't just get Yokich switched onto one of them.
Yeah, and just attack that over and over and over the Nuggets air.
Not a great pick and roll defense defense at all.
Utah proved that e that.
What was that game to? Rudy Gobert had, like, 20 and 10 in the first half.
Granted, Yokich has gotten better, Uh, even since that Siri's just defending in space a little bit better with that.
But still, I just even if you don't run the pick and roll and dump it off to your center, you have Yokich on two of the best perimeter scoring options in the N B. A.
I don't know why they didn't just go after and after and after it.
They just didn't The The offense just honestly looked ugly.
It was a lot of standing watch, dribble, dribble, dribble, mid range, pull up, dribble, dribble, dribble into the paint, chucking up garbage or PG wide open hitting the side of the backboard.
Well, the reason why I think that happens so much, man is because everybody had this hero ball mentality.
Everybody said that themselves.
I'm gonna be the one to get us out of this whole Paul.
George, I got this guy's watch this.
You know why? You know, step back, let me do my work.
That's not what this successful teams this point have done.
Miami um, you know, I got to represent, man, I gotta using his example here.
I think they just kinda they have been My dad made the other day, and he was like, these Miami Heat, huh? I didn't know they were gonna be here.
I was like, that way e.
I didn't think that man I talked about this last week.
They've just been so surprising.
But I think the main reason for their success or one of the reasons is they rely on each other at all times.
Nobody de even Jimmy Butler like that's one of the big facets of his game that's made him so successful is because he is not looking to dominate that offense.
He did come to Miami to be the guy.
I'm gonna get 30.
I'm gonna get 35 like he had one game of the playoffs.
We had 40 but he just does what's required of him.
And that's not what the Clippers set out to do.
They just set out to just get their own shot.
They set out to try to be the guy that bails them out instead of just hey, let's make the right play.
Let's run uh, let's get you get you to pick and roll.
Let's just get him in a position to be a weakness.
Let's just do what we do best and like, how much of that comes down to coaching.
How much is how much of that is the player's fault? Like, what was their game plan coming in? Like those are all questions that I've asked myself throughout this, and I think everybody deserves some kind of the blame because they were all showing their awards, showing their weaknesses throughout the Siri's.
Yeah, I just think that is a collective unit.
The Clippers just 100%.
They have to take this on the chin and really, just honestly, that I hope this humbled them because they are.
I don't care that they still, even with their flaws, I've said that's a championship roster.
They were playing the Lakers next Siri's.
I would be worried.
I would be like, Dude, this going seven games, I don't know who's winning.
It's just quiet and and then boys first LeBron Nadie and then boys like that, that that's a tough Siri's and if they get to the finals, they could beat anyone.
But they? They just They just got a slice of humble by like everyone.
He said it himself.
He deserves some of the blame.
He was just riding with his guys.
He was non stop.
It was clear it was abundant.
Mantra is Harold couldn't be on the floor when Yokich was on the floor and he kept going back to it over and over and over.
He didn't adjust.
Kawhi Leonard had one bad game finally happened to be in a Game seven.
Paul George, You couldn't have picked up the slack one time after co I did it for you All those times, just one man e like I think they should run it back.
But now I think they can actually I think they have a better chance now of getting Montrezl Harrell because I think he just cost himself a lot of money.
Honestly, I think he just cost himself a lot of money, so I think they could get him back.
I'll bring back Morris to I'd run it back, even with Doc.
If you fire on midway through the year of Ty Lue or Sam Cassell.
Still there, Bring them up.
Let him be the head coach.
I just This reminds me of like in the 2011 heat.
Not one, not two, not three, not four.
They were laughing at Dirk, but had of Game four, game five because Dirk said he was sick.
Yeah, like they were ****y.
They were young, they were the new guys in town.
The bad guys were taking over the league and you just got humbled taking on the chain.
And now actually be about that streetlight street street lights over spotlights mentality.
Come back next year and get it done.
That's all I think they have to do, man.
I don't think it requires drastic changes.
I really don't, man. Yeah.
I mean, they have all the pieces.
They just need to alter the mentality a bit, just like the heat did.
They didn't change anything drastic, alter their mindset.
They did some self reflection.
Um, you know, adjusted their place style a little bit.
And that kind of brings me to what I wanted to look at was some of the bigger, like, biggest lose winners and losers of the Siri's.
And of course, when it comes to the biggest losers, I think Paul, George, Montrezl Harrell, because of that hit with, yep, Doc Rivers, because I think he's that legitimate risk of being fired now after down 31 again, Um, we're blowing 31 for the third time in his career.
Just a terrible look.
And on the other side of things, biggest winners.
The Yokich Murray do.
Oh, man, Murray again.
Like he he had some tough games because the Clippers had the personnel to keep him in check for a lot of the time.
But he still had some of those moments where you say to yourself like, Where does this dude really rank in the hierarchy of point guards in the league like he might be one of those guys? Like if he could take even 80% of his bubble run and apply it to the regular season consistently over 60 70 80? Games like this is one of the top.
I mean, I don't know 67 point guards in the league like if that's consistent, dude, 100% because even last year in the playoffs, he had a good playoffs.
He stepped up his his his plate drastically and then he regressed a little bit in the regular season, and it was disappointing.
Now, on the bubble, he's dropping 50 40 40 in a game 40 in a Game seven.
You just can't against the Clippers.
You can't just look over that.
You can't take what he did in the regular season and put more stock in it than what he's doing right now.
Because right now this is a coming out party.
This is They didn't just give him that contract just because they didn't want to lose him.
He earned this money because they see the **** that we don't see how hard he he just works.
How in practice, Obviously, the leadership, he said back in June, on, like, Instagram live like, Why can't we win the title? Like what if we're going like, Why can't we if if we're playing at our best? So he obviously has just that leadership role.
He takes it on, he some of the shots that he takes.
I mean, it takes it, takes some balls.
Thio pull up in transition off a screen or something like he does.
So this is 100% of coming out party people have to put stock in it.
He's probably is a top six or seven point guard like you're saying right now.
The thing with him that it's so impressive to and why he fits so good with Yokich is he's very Steph Curry.
Like how he moves without the ball.
Hey, doesn't he doesn't pass the ball and just stand there and just honestly give the defense of favor.
He'll he'll go on a back door, cut.
He'll he'll just flare and come to the ball again.
Andi, just that that Z Lillard does stuff like that, too.
Yeah, yeah, That's what makes him such a great fit with a guy like Yokich.
Because Yokich drives off of those actions just like a guy like **** out of violence like bam out of I always provides.
They're cutting guys that are coming across him, dog things like that moving without the ball.
All those actions just become that much more lethal.
So yeah, man for the Clippers, like for the they definitely have to do some soul searching and come back with a different mindset for the Nuggets.
This is just another indication that they're onto something.
This court can really do something serious here.
And that's before he beginning into Michael, um, Michael Porter Jr.
Who Hey was in a better role in this Siri's now that he could come off the bench and his defensive issues weren't as much of a liability as they were in the previous Siri's.
Since Gary Harris took that role, that kind of empowered him to do what he does best as like a microwave score.
So whole team just kind of came together the coalesced of the perfect time, and that's what this bubble is all about, man.
It's like, Can you come together as a unit? Um, can you come together? Can you meet each other in the middle? Can you have that mental strength like fortitude that it takes to succeed at this level? Obviously, the Clippers didn't have that, Um, I think Game six broke them.
One of the reasons why they came out in Game seven and they just didn't have it is because, you know, they had everything clicking.
Everything was taken away from them.
It's like anything in life, man.
Like if you're on the verge of winning, if you're on the verge of accomplishing something really profound, and it's snatched away from you like that.
Just it affects your entire psyche, man.
Like you feel that.
And, um, it just kind of came back to bite them in game seven.
And, um, it's just unfortunate, man, but like you said, they have another shot at it.
They have another year of Paul and quiet before they go.
That's the scary part.
Yeah, they have.
Technically, they have next next year's must win if they go outside like they did again this this year.
They just told us that anything anything is on the table.
All the traffic.
You don't have any, Like, great young players coming up through the pipeline that can succeed those two s.
Like the pressure is probably even higher next year because of the stakes.
Because of what could happen if you do flame out again.
So I'm glad I'm not in that front office on the or right now.
Uh, I would definitely be shocked, man.
Getting back to the to the W's.
That the that the Nuggets had just throughout the Siri's.
You said we got into Jamal Murray.
Obviously, we all know you're just a superstar, but someone who was a complete liability in game and Siri's wanted at the time against the Jazz, who ended up being huge.
Just Paul Millsap.
Dude, Big time dude.
His big shop, making that three that he hit in Game seven that put him up like 15.
When he hit that, I was like, It's over, This is a over and there was like, seven minutes after that.
Some point at that point, you just saw they clippers called time out.
Nuggets went to the bench just going crazy, and you just saw the Clippers were like, We're doing this again.
We're blowing another 2nd, 2nd half, double digit Lee.
We're really doing this.
But his defense and his shot making ended up being huge for the Nuggets in those three games.
And that that that was for me, obviously, besides Yokich and Murray and just obviously, um, M P J good shotmaker big shot maker for them, Paul Millsap and Gary Harris to worse and Grant was so important to.
But I thought Paul Millsap ended up being a huge difference maker for them.
Down the stretch of that, Siri's absolutely man like when you were talking about how the Clippers went to the bench dejected after that sequence and made me think of two K like when someone goes on a run and you see you know your team, whatever ride, just like crazy, that each other up and you see the other team just like shaking their head and just like throwing their hands up, like in just defeat like that's exactly what happened, man, It was just those, um, polar opposite reactions to what just happened there.
But, um, for I want I want to get into this real quick man with the conference finals preview because I know you got a lot on your mind about this and how you think this might shake out.
So e mean, this is a massive Siris for the Lakers storylines.
Big storylines, Of course.
LeBron's legacy is always gonna be front and center.
The parallels to shoot outs in nine.
Let's talk about that, man, because e that, too.
Houston Nuggets, you know, just like 2009.
It's like looking.
Are the basketball gods trying to sell us something? I got to know, Dude, they have to be they have to be.
Dude, it just seems to destined at this point, like in any Siri's right now.
The Lakers are gonna have more experience.
Mawr vets that have played in one championships.
Uh, they're gonna have the best player.
They're gonna have the second best player.
They're gonna have the best duo.
They're gonna have probably the best chemistry like they have to this right here that the gods just just handed this right in LeBron's fourth ring.
And it's his to fumble.
Seriously, If he doesn't win 1/4 ring right now or in this in this bubble, it will be a massive disappointment.
Because all year we talked about three teams the Lakers, the Clippers, the Bucks.
Two of them were gonna be the Lakers biggest competition.
This is like they have.
They have to win it.
And the parallels with the 2009 Lakers run is it's just it's so cool.
When I saw that, it reminded me of the night before Kobe's tragic passing um, LeBron was in Philadelphia.
He passed Kobe Bryant.
Hey, was he went on this whole monologue, this whole eulogy about how How much Kobe means to him.
Hey, met him in Philly.
This is where he's from now.
I'm passing him in scoring, and sometimes the world does these things, and it makes no sense.
But it just happens.
When I saw the whole 2009 Laker Kobe LeBron championship run parallels, I was like, Do that? This is this has right there.
Yeah, but, uh, yeah, getting into the X's and the O's of the Siri's.
Besides just how cool that is? Um, I don't know.
How do you think? Do you think it's gonna be a long Siri's? I don't think it's gonna go seven.
I don't think that e think Max six.
I'm thinking five just strictly because, like we talked about with the Clippers and the Nuggets, Siri's LeBron's a mismatch hunter.
Yeah, he's Yeah, he's gonna put he's gonna put Jamal and Yokich in a lot of pick and roll action.
And if you switch that, it's it's Jamal.
Jamal is obviously not gonna be on LeBron, but he will get the switch to get Jamal on him, Then call a d.
Get to switch to get Yokich on him and Jamal on a D on.
At that point, they're just gonna pick whatever it is he's gonna read him.
React, e think how special Yokich and Jamal Murray are can get them a game or two.
I think it's gonna be more of a competitive Siri's than Houston was just because I think they just crushed Houston spirits when they went small.
But I just think I just think it's gonna be a five game five gamer.
If I were to choose me too.
I just think l A has nothing about L.
Is that they have so many options.
You look at a team like Milwaukee or in Houston.
They come to mind for me immediately.
They have They play one way, like Milwaukee.
Alright, driving kid.
Spread the floor.
You know what else you got, Houston? We play small.
We get a lot of threes.
Okay? What else you got with the Lakers? They say to themselves, How are we gonna approach this? Siri's And then we will address your lamps accordingly.
Houston, they went small 80th, the center.
Hey, he's got the size to hang with these guys in the pain and dominate them and get those boards.
He's got the length he's got the quick.
He's got the I. Q.
To navigate the most picker roles and and operating space a little bit.
So I think that's where they will succeed in this Siri's.
They could go back to playing big so they could put a guy like McGee out there for some stints.
And, you know, they could definitely go back to idiot Center again if they want.
And then that's gonna neutralize Yokich.
If Yogi just neutralized that's game, because that that is offensive Fulcrum, like everything they do, runs through him.
So if he has taken out, or at least just kind of overshadow a little bit like held to I don't know, you know, you could just get out there getting triple doubles or getting his teammates involved.
And that's what's going to get the Lakers what they need.
And the Lakers, too.
I mean, look at their defense in the bubble.
I'm pretty sure they're one of the what two or three best defensive team.
I believe there top four in the playoffs for offensive defense, which is where they were in the regular season, right.
So with that in mind, I mean the ball movement that the Nuggets have been utilizing their great shooting.
They're great playmaking.
I think a lot of that is gonna be neutralized, or at least, uh, made less effective in light of the defenders and the schemes that the L.
A is gonna throw at him.
So I just don't think they're gonna be able to overcome that or get any more than, like you said a game or two out of it.
But this run has been amazing, man.
Like, you know, if they go out in five like, you can't take anything away from this team.
You've got to give credit where credit is due and they can say to themselves, we will be back because they're cornerstones are 23 25 years old.
Um, Michael Porter Jr is just getting started.
Jeremy grants just in his prime.
Uh, you know, all you have to do is just times to loose ends.
Maybe, you know, resigned some of those guys and then just continue to have that player development mentality.
Those young guys, uh, maybe find a way to replace Millsap since he might be on his way out.
I want to bring him back just because of the age.
But he he's been really good.
I think job Jeremy Grant can take on that role.
Um, then obviously play more minutes for Gary Harris.
And then they saw the starter who is not playing Barnes just well, Barnes just talking about him.
I know he's just e.
That's just not the Nuggets win.
Doesn't matter they Their last three years they went from, they were one game away in 2018 from making the playoffs.
Remember, it came down to the video on They lost in overtime the next.
Next year they come back.
They get to the second round.
They went to to Game seven This year.
They go to to Game seven.
They upset the Clippers.
Now they're against the Lakers.
They have nothing to worry about and they know it, too.
They said it themselves were just out here playing ball.
We're just having fun.
Do they have no pressure and they know it.
They're like, Dude, we're not supposed to be here.
Whatever we do now is just icing on the cake.
A same thing with Miami, man.
That's why I keep telling myself like you were not supposed to be here.
You know that, too.
Yeah, that's that's the thing.
That's why having a leader like LeBron with the amount of pressure that he can handle is so important in those situations and that I think that's another thing that we didn't get into with the Clippers, which I never thought about until I heard someone bring it up on a podcast recently.
Everywhere Quiet is Ben.
I don't need to get into the Clippers again, but came on topic.
Yeah, um, everywhere he's been.
He didn't have to create chemistry.
It was already there, the Spurs, that that was already all built into what he was.
He was just there.
He did his thing and he was fantastic.
And in those finals run school, he goes to the Toronto He was never the leader of Toronto.
That was always, always, always, Kyle Larry's heart.
He's the heart and soul of that team.
He created that chemistry.
That core has been there.
They obviously added a few more players, but he didn't have toe.
He didn't have toe create chemistry and really looked to lead these guys because there was already a guy that was there.
The culture was set.
He was along for the ride and he he drove the bus.
He was the best player, and I'm not saying he wasn't.
He comes to the Clippers.
It's a bunch of moving parts and great players.
But is he the guy to really take all of that in year one and put it on his shoulders and be like I'm driving this bus hop along? I'm going to take all this pressure, everything that comes with being the guy on this team that has this bad, just history of coming up short on all this.
He wasn't the guy this year for that and that.
That's really important when it comes to the playoffs, when you have those expectations internally, externally, media driven or not, that comes with being the guy in a big market like that and just this year he just he just didn't have it and next they'll come back and be fun for sure.
That's something that, like I wasn't thinking about before.
I'm sure most people work.
I didn't even come close to thinking about that, dude.
Yeah, and it really didn't become apparent until this playoff.
Siri's like you think about it and, yeah, he did have to build something like an Impala.
George came in this environment.
It's not enough just to be a good player.
It's not enough to just be like, Hey, I've won all starting VPs And I have, um, you know, whatever All star games, um, in my belt or whatever.
It's like you have to come in here, set the standard for the team, on and off the court.
That's something that I think those two guys have struggled with in the past, and it's a role that that I feel like it's been made them uncomfortable.
Yes, the expectations were different.
Even last year in in, uh, in Toronto, were they were they hands down like this year.
You guys gotta win a championship e.
The pressure was on since Kwai I had the opportunity to leave, but it wasn't like we're expected to win.
When, when when I went to Toronto, I don't think anyone was like, wow, this team needs to win the finals.
They're that good.
They're the favorite.
And then same in San Antonio.
They were great in 2014 but they just came off of that loss.
Uh, in seven against the Heat.
Everyone got a year older.
They were great again.
They won 67 games.
But I don't think really that many people thought they were gonna 100% come into that year.
And when the championship, This was the first year where for both of them, it was like You guys, this is This is a championship year.
And despite what Paul George said saying internally, it wasn't even though three other people said that that was their expectation.
They just fell short.
They're gonna be okay.
They'll be fine, man, and taking this into our current situation in the conference finals the Lakers are looking at.
It's not exact match of the situation, but it's similar.
I mean, look at LeBron.
He's not getting any younger, you know they have.
I mean, I want to throw this in, but um, it's Aziz fair or unfair as it may be.
You know, the whole Kobe situation, like people are expecting him to win for him, and it's just another piece of the puzzle.
Another, uh, you know, another wait that's placed upon them.
It's why they're expected.
And then, of course, there competition or lack thereof.
Like two teams you mentioned before that we're in the hunt, are gone.
So now it's like, I mean, you're supposed to win.
You're supposed to be here.
You're supposed to go all the way.
But I think they have a great opportunity because you look at their matching up against.
They have everything they need.
They have the pieces, they have the schemes.
They have one of the best leaders, facilitators and LeBron.
And then Davis has been a big part of that as well, and his year has been fantastic.
All NBA first team, all defense, the perfect running mate.
So now Davis could be a beneficiary of what happens here if they win a championship.
Hey, you know you're the second best player on a championship team.
His resume gets bolstered.
His legacy has helped because to this point it's like, well, big numbers, guy, bad teams.
You can't win whatever, it's gonna help him, too.
It's gonna be huge for both of them going his playoff numbers.
He have just 30 and 10 through his playoff career.
Like he's, he's a monster.
You get him a ring now on the Lakers with those number is going to do a lot for his legacy and getting back to what you said.
How how the Lakers can adjust they they could play somebody different lineups.
I heard someone say it, Um, it was the no dunks.
Guys don't know if you listen to their podcast, but they they said the Lakers can play basically any style they could play.
Big, medium, small and their small is 697 ft at the 45 They're small.
Lineup is most teams big man lineup, which is which is a huge, huge advantage.
The fact that they were able to go again small against Houston and still have 80 out there dominating the boards and inside a fair man. E.
It's crazy because, like in some cir***stances, you know you could utilize him as a center.
I mean, the only reason he doesn't play center more is because he doesn't want to, is not willing, is, you know, doesn't really fit what he's about he wants toe play, that pick and pop game.
He wants to space the floor a little bit, but he's got all that.
You want to be a dominant center in a live E.
I understand for like a regular season just because how much it takes one. Just.
You have a £280.
7 foot guy back in you down.
You catch your elbow to the ribs, you break a rib where she down a month. So I understand.
But yeah, but when it comes with winning time, I think he truly understands and embraces because he's a smart player.
Listen with me at the five, we could get another shooter out here.
You got another defender out here.
Space opens up for all of us.
I'm still the best rim protector.
Debated Lee in basketball.
I think he understands.
So I I think when people say like he doesn't like playing center.
I think it's just more because just the grind that really comes with playing center, it is a grind.
Yeah, that's that.
I mean, it really explains it, but I'm just glad that at this point he has realized what's required of him and That's what winning a championship is all about.
You have to do things you're not accustomed to, you're not comfortable with.
But in this scenario, it's gonna make all the difference for the Lakers.
And it's why, when they go up against the Nuggets here coming up and he's matched up with Yokich.
I mean, he's got all the tools to make Yokich his life a living hell and just give him problems everywhere and then switch when necessary.
So, yeah, for the Lakers, I mean, it's gonna be Ah, fantastic story.
I mean, I can't see them losing this in any way.
And for LeBron, it's gonna be another, um, tipping his cap Another another accomplishment for him.
Uh, you know, he's already got the all MBA team.
He's got the all star selection.
This is what he lives for.
Now that stuff is nice, but he knows.
Um, this is where his money will be made.
This is where people judge him now, and I just I mean, man, if Miami does not win it, I am praying that the Lakers take this home for Kobe, for LeBron.
I want LeBron to just keep proving these haters wrong, man.
You go anywhere in social media.
They just love to tear him down.
The love to knit pick.
He wins all that.
He wins 16th his 16th all MBA selection, 16th straight, 16th straight, Most 17.
What are people going to say? The first coming up on the Facebook.
It's a longevity award.
I mean, of course, you have to have longevity to win it.
But like the way people are phrasing this, it's just It just gets me, man just gets me worked up.
They just want to turn down any stop.
But what you need to say about this, he wins his fourth ring.
I mean, you're running out of things to nitpick upon, man.
He's gonna have He's gonna be the number one playoff scorer.
He's gonna be top 10 points of assist.
He might be the number one scorer of all time.
Uh, he's gonna have 1 10 10 finals appearances with four championships, like some of the some of the clutches moments in playoff history.
Even though people don't want to admit it.
I know it z gonna make that debate a lot more interesting than than an argument because four rings, Three different places.
That's never been done that Z.
That's not that's not easy to go.
Three different places and instantly just because you're there, there are contender that instant that it takes a special guide to do that.
I mean, just asked why.
I mean, you can't just walk in somewhere, regardless of the talent that's already there and make it happen.
I mean, the Lakers, No, this themselves back in.
What is it? 2012.
When they had that Yeah, 2018 on paper and they were gonna throw out Pau Gasol.
We're gonna throw out Steve Nash.
It's like I mean, it takes more than that.
It takes someone special.
I mean, of course, Kobe was special, but the other pieces didn't fit.
But this Lakers team, they fit together like they're having so much fun together.
They love being around each other and yeah, I mean, I wouldn't be mad at all.
I'd be a little disappointed.
My guys don't win it, but you're mad at all like I'm fairly confident they're going to, because LeBron he understands some of the stuff that's happened in his career, bringing bad teams to the finals.
Kyrie on, um, Kevin Love getting hurt.
2015 he understands that some some of the things that have happened in his finals career is just not really.
It's out of his control.
He wins the finals, then then Kevin Durant goes there.
They're not expected to win that No one, probably even internally.
When when they probably like Kevin like, what are we gonna do now? They have that.
That that's a four headed monster from a three headed monster.
I think he I'm pretty sure as motivated as he obviously has been with the whole washed King narrative all that all season.
I think he's looking at the landscape of the playoffs right now, and he's like I'm 35.
I'm not getting any younger.
Technically, Anthony Davis, No one thinks he's leaving, but he has a free agent.
We are 100% expected to win this.
I don't see him taking anything lightly from here on out like this.
It's just like I said earlier.
He's been handed his fourth ring and it's his.
He's got a running into the end zone and not fumble it.
It's the Lakers playoffs.
Alou's And if they lose as much **** as I've been talking as much as I've been trolling Yeah, next alive.
You know, this all day, man, I love this storyline I love the Lakers were doing.
Um, this is gonna be it for us today.
But, man, I appreciate your time is always I love your takes, man.
Keep bringing it to us, man, that he, uh, that you are just viewing on Twitter and in the chat is, um forever.
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