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00:00:00
Yeah, I'm going to preview later today with, um I'm doing that with Dave to four on my podcast and Rocky Mountain hoops.
00:00:06
And then I was gonna try and write.
00:00:07
But there's just not enough time between games, man, like I don't have enough hours that exist to put that together at this point, it's frustrating.
00:00:14
It's kind of hard with like well, especially when we had, like, the gains every other day.
00:00:19
I was like, I don't know when I can write like this is such a like you and I do film.
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I was just like I need like I need a second.
00:00:26
I'm like, not sleeping And I'm just I had to pick my points man like I had to find, like the important film, study things to write about and just push away all the extra stuff that I want to Dio just isn't enough time like I haven't gotten a chance to write about Jamal Murray's growth, like Jamal Murray as a player has grown so much, and I haven't been able to put that into a film study yet, and that's like one of the things that, like I have been dying to get Thio and I just can't get there right now and I'll get there eventually.
00:00:54
Hopefully, he plays well against the Lakers, but we'll see.
00:00:56
I mean, it may be a good thing because I'm like, maybe it's good that I'm not grabbing Jeremiah Martin back cuts like, maybe I don't need film clips of that.
00:01:04
Yeah, I'm the guy who hasn't too terrified external.
00:01:07
That's like pretty much full of useless clips that I will never use again. Totally.
00:01:12
I just That's what I just throw him on Twitter.
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Every single clip on I'm like, I don't know what to do with this.
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I'm not going to use it.
00:01:18
But I still have, Like Timothy Liu Abu Kabarole film from Mega Lex on my freaking external hard drive.
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So I'm with you on this 120 Timothy.
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Low Capital E.
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Still believe I still believe in my God. TLC.
00:01:33
All right.
00:01:34
Looks like we got some people in here.
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What's up, Nick? Hello, people. Hello.
00:01:37
Hello.
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My guy Sam is in here.
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Sam will probably be talking a little bit of hip hop at the end of this episode.
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It's kind of heated up, but of course I got my guy T.
00:01:46
J McBride of Mile High Sports the Rocky Mountain hoops podcast, which, by the way, there was an episode that just went up this week with Matt Moore.
00:01:53
So good, like so good. It was.
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I think it was my favorite podcast I've heard all month, and I've listened more with preachy.
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He got in on it, man, like he was.
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He was the reverend of that podcast.
00:02:05
Went off on that one.
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I wanted him to go even mawr on who I I was like, Ready? Hey, was like, I'm gonna say this.
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I'm like, No, don't hey, can't because he hasn't done enough like psychotic research to feel comfortable making those takes.
00:02:19
Matt needs toe have, like, seven extra hours of film work done before Those takes actually come out to the public.
00:02:25
So that's that's the Matt Moore.
00:02:27
What? I actually sit next to Matt Moore like he is directly next to every Nuggets game.
00:02:31
So, like the insanity of Matt Moore has, like, slowly ingratiated itself into my brain.
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So I whenever I get to talk to with him on podcast, it gets weird.
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E you got it.
00:02:41
He's I I envy that like the ability to just, like, let off a take and just be like, I'm just saying this right now.
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I'm like, I mean, he's also the guy who got called out for grass by Kevin Durant.
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So, like, Matt Moore has dealt with the crap at this point like this is not new to him, so he doesn't mind nearly.
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He's a vet, man.
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You gotta love it. You gotta love it.
00:03:00
He's like Paul Millsap out there.
00:03:02
Oh, man.
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I'm gonna have to start calling him grandpa.
00:03:06
He's gonna listen to this and hate me, and it's gonna be phenomenal.
00:03:09
I'm so happy.
00:03:10
Um, speaking of how did we get here? I just want to know how you and I have connected.
00:03:16
First off. Congrats.
00:03:17
You're the first repeat guest on basketball or what? An honor.
00:03:20
You know the show now, is that what I'm happy about? That that's the niche podcast market.
00:03:25
Alright, we're really taken over here, but no, I mean, I just want to know how we got here because it was one minute 24 seconds remaining.
00:03:35
The Clippers wives, girlfriends were dancing on the sideline.
00:03:39
The nuggets were down 17 and now we're previewing a Lakers Siri's that I don't even feel mentally prepared for.
00:03:47
I'm like, I don't even know what to do with myself celebrating the last series.
00:03:50
I'm not even a Nuggets fan, so I'm not even know what the Clippers slander yet.
00:03:54
Like, how do we just move on from that opportunity? E No, but what's the Paul Millsap thing? It's fascinating because the Nuggets were dead in the water and I asked him after I believe it was Game three with him and Marcus Morris got into their scrap and I asked him, I was like, Listen like, there's been moments where you guys have been kind of not pushed around, but you didn't necessarily punch back.
00:04:14
Is this one of those moments to where you are just, like done? You are not willing to allow yourself to continue to be pumped.
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The technical no longer mattered and you went out there and you made a point, and Paul knows that basically said yes, like, you know, much longer winded, you know, soliloquy way of saying yes.
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But he said that they needed that shot to a degree, and I'm of the mind that if you are relying on a Paul Millsap Marcus Morris senior scrap to be able to win playoff series.
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You're not in a great spot, but clearly something worked from that.
00:04:44
That gave the Nuggets the edge, the confidence, the swagger to go toe to toe with this Clippers team, despite every every last odd being against them and still find a way to come out on top.
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This Nuggets team knows how to live in this realm.
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This is all that they have done.
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They have been to four straight game sevens now.
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They have been to eight elimination games in four playoff Siri's and to go even further.
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They had a play in Game 82 game to go to the playoffs against the Minnesota Timberwolves the year before.
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And to get there, they had to win 10 of 13 games against 13 playoff opponents to even be in a situation to try to do that back then.
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So this Nuggets team for three years now has been this resilient group.
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I mean, they're the reason we have the seating games like that's it, that's that's the reason this came about.
00:05:28
So I mean, for that reason alone, I'm like the Nuggets are there up here like we must treat them like they're holy because the not only that, like they belong in this tier of contenders now, where to put them.
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And I was one of them, like I didn't know if they were really at that.
00:05:44
Clippers, Lakers Bucks level Celtics You know that you know that tier of teams and Denver now, I don't think there is anything you can say that they are not in that group and that that's what this one this win against the Clippers did when Denver played the first round series of sorry a year ago in their playoff series against San Antonio.
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When against Portland, those were the best possible draws in the playoffs.
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There was a lot of a facade there that, like, Yeah, they got to to Game seven in their first playoff debut but like this was the best case scenario for them this year.
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Utah was better than both those that that Blazers team and the San Antonio team from the year prior, and they overcame that and then to actually go up toe to toe with a true title contender.
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The odds on favorite for the majority of people around right now, toe win the title and to do what they did.
00:06:30
That was the step.
00:06:31
That was the growth that nobody had seen from this Nuggets team that put a different thought process about how good this group can be into everybody's head.
00:06:41
So, the Nuggets, I'm laying this out here.
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We're This is gonna be a lot of hot takes. I'm not gonna lie.
00:06:49
There's a lot of theirs.
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I'm ready. I'm like I'm good at already viewing.
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This is what I dio the way that they play for one another.
00:06:58
And I'm not talking about in terms of talent, but the way they play for one another and the road they've gotten there, it's a little just a little Golden State fish, Like a little bit.
00:07:07
No, no, it is.
00:07:08
This has been a connection people have made for a long time, and I and what it happened when they when they played as well as they did last year, and everybody was like, Okay, this is the like, This is it.
00:07:16
This is the next team that's gonna be up.
00:07:18
And then this year was kind of went through the motions a little bit, but just in terms of the disappointing losses that they had kind of similar to Golden State with the Spurs back in the day when they lost.
00:07:28
But they gave him a hard fought Siri's.
00:07:30
You had that last year with Portland, and then this year you have this kind of resilient finish, Um, by the Nuggets over, I guess, Utah and the Clippers this year.
00:07:39
It just kind of feels the same way that the Warriors were down to Memphis down to Oh, and I think that was 2015.
00:07:47
There's just some like something about it is a little similar.
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I don't know if they're going to reach that peak.
00:07:52
The math probably says no, but I at least think that there's something here where these guys, they're buying into each other and we're getting to the point where it's like, Okay, like, there's something here.
00:08:04
I don't know what it is, but it's something supernatural.
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It goes beyond the numbers it goes beyond.
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If you're looking at every player on the top, you know, whatever player list.
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There's just something here and it's a cultural thing and I think it's it's worth noting because it's it's a big deal.
00:08:19
I think one of the interesting things about it, too, is very few teams or homegrown where they actually keep their guys and they do everything they can to keep them.
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The Warriors were that group.
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Until the TV money change that the TV money doesn't allow them to get Kevin Durant.
00:08:32
The Warriors would have continued on that exact path that on.
00:08:36
So with all that being said, the similarity from the Nuggets and the Warriors in that sense is very, very true.
00:08:42
And it's symbolic of the way that you can develop championship caliber teams.
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If you have the right people in place in your front, off this to be able to draft that way, and the Nuggets have done that.
00:08:53
And I also think I'm a big believer that the idea of continuity and chemistry could be overblown in the playoffs, like talent wins, you playoff Siri's.
00:09:00
This Siris was the exact opposite of that because the Clippers were just thrown together eight months ago.
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This was not a group, they looked it.
00:09:08
And so when you have these kinds of matchups, though, that impact is not as felt because you don't have a team that has literally been together every single one.
00:09:16
But Jeremy Grant, Michael Porter Jr.
00:09:18
Essentially for five years like that, isn't a common thread and same coaching, mostly the same coaching staff, the same front office, for the most part, other than promotions to other teams, which is like a congratulations, We'll see you later kind of moment.
00:09:31
There was never that infighting.
00:09:33
There was never any kind of drama.
00:09:34
The culture that they built was allowed to be built upon.
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The foundation was strong, and that's why they're here.
00:09:40
And it's It is very, very emblematic of what the Warriors were able to do before Kevin Durant, another one.
00:09:45
I'm gonna make another cop.
00:09:46
They are a It's interesting because their general makeup is a little bit similar, you know.
00:09:52
Is Murray the same caliber of a shooter as Steph Curry? No, but it's a guy that can space the floor and a playmaking big.
00:10:00
Just interestingly enough, I think if you're looking at them on the top players list, it's flipped.
00:10:04
The guy that's the playmaking big is one of the e mean What is he right now? How many guys are you picking over him? I know you and Matt Moore did this, but I don't I could take I think he's top six.
00:10:16
Like I think he's top six is right because you talk. LeBron, you talk.
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You honest? You talk Steph Curry, Utah Katie and then I Lillard is the hard one for me.
00:10:26
Kawhi Leonard the hard one for me e due to Yeah, that would be five for co y eso When you start talking about, I think he's right at that tier.
00:10:37
Maybe that lower in terms of just because of the difference in how they play.
00:10:41
Uh, but that's not necessarily, you know, an indictment on Nicola.
00:10:45
He's just isn't gonna be a guy who's like, Get out of my way.
00:10:48
But that's not who he is, and that's fine.
00:10:49
That's good, if you ask me.
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But I do think that he is right there.
00:10:54
Top six.
00:10:55
And he could push for top five by the very, very, very soon.
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Like we're talking like three days from now.
00:10:59
Potentially push top five Good.
00:11:03
I agree, and I think that the interesting thing is he's probably going neck and neck with the guy that they're about to face in terms of like if we're doing polling position with Anthony Davis because it's basically like, Okay, we know, like if you, if you are seriously having conversations about Embiid first, Yokich like, log off.
00:11:21
Yes, I agree with like it's not even close.
00:11:23
Nicola Yokich has not been played off the floor defensively, even against the Jazz, who attacked him in the high pick and roll over and over and over and over and over again.
00:11:31
He was never eliminated from the game.
00:11:33
Joy let happen again Like this is not something that is true anymore.
00:11:37
It's crazy that three years ago, Myles Turner was on the unicorn lift with Nicola like, That's how far we've come in this progression and ascension of Nicola Yokich.
00:11:47
And it's funny because nothing changed for Nicola.
00:11:49
Nicola has been Nicola for four years now, and all it's been is he's starting to realize he's a little bit better, but they're playing identically.
00:11:57
Nothing has changed in terms of how Nicola Yokich plays basketball.
00:12:01
So that's the funniest part to me is that I don't think Nicola Yokich is any different than he was when he walked in the league three years ago.
00:12:07
I don't think so, But I do think that there is a sense of like, I mean, he did this last year in a lot of ways, but I think that it's it feels like a slightly different performance, and maybe it's just the guys knowing where Thio pushing back on this.
00:12:19
They had no supporting cast last year.
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He average numbers on Lee.
00:12:22
Oscar Robertson had put up in the playoffs last year, and Oscar had to play 43 minutes a night to do so.
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Nicola Yokich did this last year, except this year, he's scoring even Mawr eso.
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It's not necessarily that Nicola Yokich has grown in a playoff setting.
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He was this dominant.
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This has already been foretold and written for something.
00:12:42
I am not surprised at all.
00:12:43
This was the one thing I was sure of.
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With the Nuggets in the playoffs, Nicola Yokich has a switch.
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There are like five players in the entire world who could go from.
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I don't care about the regular season in January and flip onto playoff boat and Nicola is one of them.
00:12:57
We have seen it happen in real time now, so I actually don't think this has been anything different Nicola did. It gets a better opponent.
00:13:04
That's an important distinction for the team construct.
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But Nicola has been Nicola, and nothing has been different about that.
00:13:10
I think the one thing and I don't know for something about, like the way that he had and maybe it was just This is probably more of a matchup thing because the Clippers, I mean, there's my product Really, really good, Like really good article on it was it was really good on Hayden article, kind of on the way that they over switch and over help and just, like, don't communicate well.
00:13:31
And it's like too much finger pointing and all this stuff.
00:13:33
And I just feel like if you could find an easy, it feels weird to say, because this Clippers team was set up to just be this jugar.
00:13:40
Not just like sweet, just a sweet team on paper.
00:13:44
And for whatever reason, you've basically picked the perfect opponent for Nicole Yokich because he's having them see ghosts.
00:13:51
He looks one.
00:13:52
I mean, you did a fantastic fantastic breakdown of his Game seven, Um, just talking about the little things.
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It's like the micro movements.
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It's the looking to the corner and then Jew on the one hand pass to the wing.
00:14:04
It's just like these little things that he's.
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I think he's already had a such a strong control of that and maybe it was just the opponent.
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But that's the thing where I'm like this guy, just like I don't He's infallible.
00:14:16
Like, How do you stop this? And then the biggest difference this year is that Jamal Murray is on a tear like Jamal Murray was not this Jamal Murray in the playoffs.
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He was getting demolished on defense like he couldn't keep anybody in front of him on offense.
00:14:27
He was trying to force these terrible mid range looks over and over and over again.
00:14:31
He was playing in spite of the offense, not within it.
00:14:34
There was a like the the disconnect from Jamal Murray's first playoffs to now. It's so extreme.
00:14:38
I don't know what shifted for him, and it all happened at once like he grew in the regular season.
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But it wasn't until he got hurt before the All Star break and sat back and then returned and was like, Oh, wait, I could do all of these things I didn't realize I could do all of these things that he, like, metamorphose ized himself into this player.
00:14:53
And once he did, And like in that article that you that you mentioned on my life sports dot com Uh, Nicola Yokich.
00:14:59
He knew that the Clippers wanted to sell out on Jamal Murray.
00:15:03
They were kind of defending him.
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Kind of like LeBron.
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They were gonna take away his best option to pass Thio and they were going to see if Nicola Yokich could beat them.
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Four on five, going downhill.
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So what they were doing is they were brought up, tho.
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Nicola Yokich would pass the handoff toe.
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Jamal Murray.
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They would send two players to Jamal, usually Hawaiian Marcus Morris.
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Nicola would slip, and then Nicole is playing through four on five by himself against Chicken.
00:15:25
And that that's a death sentence like that was the biggest.
00:15:27
Like the clip in that article that got me the most was when Nicola Yokich got to Michael Green stuck between Gary Harris and the corner and Paul Millsap on the wing, and he literally looks to the corner and you see your Michael Green. Just bale.
00:15:40
He's so terrified of that corner three look, and Nicola Yokich is already reverting back to the wing without taking additional steps.
00:15:47
Somehow, like I don't know how his slow paced steps that fast basketball.
00:15:52
But they do, and it's it's magnificent.
00:15:55
His control, now that he has somebody taking attention away from him on the perimeter, has completely shifted the way that he is able to create.
00:16:03
He's always had the ability.
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He never had the team behind him that was able to do this in a playoff setting before and now that he has it.
00:16:09
And now Jeremy grants hitting threes.
00:16:11
Now Gary Harris is hitting three.
00:16:13
Now what are you supposed to dio now? You can get backdoor cuts now All of a sudden, Paul, no.
00:16:16
Stop sneaking up the baseline works.
00:16:18
And they It's funny how those dominoes start to fall with this Nuggets offense.
00:16:22
And all of a sudden you're like, Whoa, now they're just unbeatable.
00:16:24
Like all of a sudden, you just can't stop this Nuggets team when they were predictable and slow in the mud before that.
00:16:30
And it's because they get on these roles and they just doesn't stop.
00:16:34
What if there did you feel like there was this one or two adjustments that really made the difference in those last three games if you had to pick one because it felt like the usage of Murray was different.
00:16:46
But it might have just been that the Clippers started doubling Yokich for no apparent reason.
00:16:49
I don't think there were some doubles like there was one that was in, like, the nine minute point of the first quarter.
00:16:55
And we call the Hokage, catches the ball in the post, is looking at Paul George because he is expecting him to double and Paul George like Scripps over about as obvious as you could possibly imagine.
00:17:05
And Nicoli Okay, throw the perfect dart of the past of the wing gets an open three out of it like you cannot.
00:17:10
This is one thing.
00:17:11
That is definitely true that Jeff Van Gundy hit on during the broadcast in the middle of all of his other chaos that he talks about during a broadcast.
00:17:17
But there was one great point in the middle of it, which was yes, exactly.
00:17:23
They're gonna have to defend him like LeBron James.
00:17:25
If he sees the double, you're dead.
00:17:27
Yeah, like you cannot send the double of Nicola Yokich sees it coming or knows it's coming.
00:17:31
If you bring it from the wing behind him, he still knows it's coming.
00:17:35
So you have to find a way.
00:17:36
And the Nuggets done a great job with us against James Harden in the regular season of sending those obscure doubles from strange places from the weak side corner on a good three point shooter.
00:17:45
When you're like Wait, that doesn't happen.
00:17:47
And all of a sudden you have to reassess what's happening around you, and the double becomes impactful.
00:17:51
If you don't do that against Nicola Yokich, you're dead.
00:17:53
It's over, especially when Jamal Murray is playing like this.
00:17:57
And I think that was the biggest shift.
00:17:58
Is that when Jamal Murray was playing that well, and when Jamal Murray was learning how to use his gravity, it opened up everything for Denver because there were also moments where Jamal Murray would run a d h O and would sprint to Michael Porter Jr side of the floor.
00:18:14
Porter would then clear out from the corner, cut baseline and usually drag his defender and a help defender with him because he's such a big target as a cutter at the rim.
00:18:23
Then all of a sudden you're playing three on two basketball on the weak side, and Jamal Murray has a ton of room to work with.
00:18:29
So then he can manipulate.
00:18:30
Then he has this space to be able to run a pick, a side pick and roll, create an advantage, kicked to a shooter, get to the rim, find the cutter, and he's done that.
00:18:38
So the diversification of the Nuggets offense with Jamal Murray being this good as a creator is what I think really shifted their offensive game plan in those last three games.
00:18:47
I also feel like they took the ball out of his hands a little bit and, like, ran him off the baseline, gave him that side pick and roll situations like I don't Do you think that's more of a Murray thing? Or do you think that's that's all Malone like trying to be? It's both.
00:18:57
It's both.
00:18:58
Jamal Murray is a fantastic screener for his position.
00:18:59
He's probably the best point guard screener that guarded pick and roll that they even more so they ran it.
00:19:05
They ran a like variant of a C corner action.
00:19:08
This might get a little bit too high frequency for everybody.
00:19:10
Let's do it s o.
00:19:11
They had Gary Harris in the corner.
00:19:14
They have Jamal Murray comes set a screen on Gary Harris Guy s.
00:19:18
So this is all off ball action.
00:19:19
Then Gary Harris just reassess its and he just sets a different angled screen behind Murray, which then flares Murray into a staggered screen with Nicola on the wing as he gets a pass from Paul Mills at the top of the key for a wide open three pointer.
00:19:33
Those are the kind of those are sets, but the read and react sets those were all made on the fly.
00:19:40
And the fact that the Nuggets have already been able to develop this chemistry with each other, that they could run three separate screening actions without a ball and have exactly Oh my God, they will be running into each other like it would be chaos.
00:19:52
But like those are the small micro decisions that shifted the way that the Nuggets were able to get Jamal Murray open and the fact that they were just screening better to like in the first couple games.
00:20:01
They weren't screening with same physicality.
00:20:03
That was another big impact of the Siri's.
00:20:05
But getting that off ball movement in those staggered screens to get Jamal Murray moving downhill with speed while he's catching the ball changed everything for him.
00:20:13
Yeah, I thought it was interesting, like it just felt like it's These things were so hard, because again, it's like a It's again.
00:20:20
It's just it was a weirdly supernatural serious.
00:20:22
I'm like I can't tell if it's like the comfortable ity like It just felt like a They came in tired like they came in, tired to that serious, But it was also like, you know, the Clippers.
00:20:33
What they Last time they played each other.
00:20:35
The Clippers.
00:20:36
It was in the bubble.
00:20:37
So it was a very throw out game because ball ball started a small forward out to Kyle Kuzma when you had that, even if Jesus was closing out.
00:20:44
Quote after the game.
00:20:45
Last God, Kuzma.
00:20:47
It's Bull Bull who's played 12 minutes in his NBA career and you're talking about Jesus closing out to you, but so I mean, e don't know.
00:20:55
It was a very interesting Siris in that there's so many things like a much as you can play like the everything went wrong for the Clippers, it really felt like every part of Denver clicked.
00:21:06
It was like this perfect.
00:21:07
Um, all, you know, amalgamation of things coming together.
00:21:10
And it was like both sides because every single both of the stars and the Clippers came up short, their role players came up short.
00:21:16
Doc Rivers came up short.
00:21:18
It was like this complete and total collapse while meanwhile, you have the entire Nuggets team just coming together.
00:21:24
Millsap comes alive after a pretty slow postseason.
00:21:27
Um, you know, Yokich is just the control of the game in Game seven was like, That was top 10 passing game ever, potentially, totally like that game I've ever watched.
00:21:36
I was what was going on.
00:21:38
I was like, This is absolutely ridiculous because you look at the players that are on that court.
00:21:41
It's like eyes.
00:21:44
This guy, like one of the three best looking I'm like, what is going on like this is amazing.
00:21:49
That and they tried everything.
00:21:50
It was Harold.
00:21:51
It was Ooh, box. It was quiet.
00:21:52
Was Paul George? They didn't put Beverly on him in the post at one point to try and pester him and send doubles like nothing work.
00:21:57
It didn't matter.
00:21:58
It was It was it was surgical to play to play, a little reference to good term.
00:22:03
Is it what I was really feeling? I was like, I love the the symbolism in this article e thought that the whole time watching it is like this, just like excising out whatever he wanted from this Clippers team is he went.
00:22:14
But one thing that I want to say that this is ah ha take.
00:22:17
All right, What if the Denver Nuggets or just the better team? I don't take? No, the Clippers air Incredible look like you have lost like this is the thing that Game one Nuggets were just demolished like they had nothing in the tank, which is like, I'll throw that game away.
00:22:33
Denver should have won Game three.
00:22:35
Denver outplayed them for three and three quarters quarters.
00:22:38
In that game, they handled the Clippers, and then they had another close laws.
00:22:42
I believe in Game four.
00:22:43
So when you put that together that the Clippers were able to escape on just arbitrary randomness, Denver outplayed them in five of these games, like they they should have on this Siri's and six.
00:22:57
That's crazy.
00:23:00
Yeah, it was.
00:23:02
It was.
00:23:03
It's been an interesting playoffs, like just like every little thing, everything that it just felt like basketball was getting a little baseball like a little, too MLB is got people resting.
00:23:14
You know, there's there's that we're playing the and I like. Look, I love numbers.
00:23:18
I love them a lot, but it's nice to have a little bit of these old school things, these theologies that are thrown around about chemistry, about playing hard for one another, that I feel like you've really gotten a new bit of air to them, like there's a new bit of wind in the sails to a lot of these things that we've kind of grown up with, like pre numbers there.
00:23:36
Well, the contrast has gone so far the other direction, right? Like maybe that's why there's more validity to this chemistry argument, and that was because they're left.
00:23:43
They're all balanced, like their balance rosters.
00:23:46
It's like these, like you have like your glue guys, your shooters.
00:23:50
Every team has.
00:23:51
I mean, let's be honest.
00:23:52
Every team has a center that's like either top 30 or just really good and or a power forward or something like that because Davis ain't no center.
00:24:03
I'm out on this.
00:24:04
I'm done.
00:24:05
I don't wanna hear it like he's not a **** center.
00:24:08
It's the key to the Syria.
00:24:09
Are you just saying that because you want you could see the best center? No.
00:24:12
No, because, like, I'm not even a nugget stand.
00:24:14
I'm a big, big things group.
00:24:16
But, like my thing with Anna Davis is like that Dude won't play center.
00:24:20
They're gonna play Javale McGee and Dwight Howard on the Siris eight ton.
00:24:23
They're probably going to get a combined, like 36 minutes and center play on this per game.
00:24:27
I would not.
00:24:28
I think we're only going to get the eight minute closing stretch with Anthony Davis at center.
00:24:32
I don't think we're going to see it otherwise, because Anthony Davis doesn't want to do it.
00:24:36
He refuses to do it and then you have Vogel coming out already, saying that they're going to go back to their centers and that's gonna be a win for Denver.
00:24:45
Denver is like a minus 18.
00:24:46
6 net rating with just Anthony is on the floor with no other centers there like a plus.
00:24:51
Yeah, it's something like out of this world.
00:24:54
It's like it doesn't matter.
00:24:56
I'm going to demolish you every time down the court kind of thing.
00:24:59
And it kind of feels like that's the situation where you have, like, you know, just Yokich finding like it just seems like he's gonna They're not gonna double them.
00:25:07
They after what he just did to the Clippers.
00:25:10
I do not think the Lakers try and double them.
00:25:12
They're gonna be physical with him with the high post.
00:25:14
They're going to try and keep him out of the low post with everything they have, which is why they're gonna play their centers and they're gonna try and bait him into foul trouble.
00:25:20
They're gonna try and get him frustrated, and they're going to see if that works for them.
00:25:23
I don't think they'll double like this.
00:25:25
I would hope not because it's e couldn't believe it was happening in a Game seven.
00:25:29
It was like it was the one adjustment.
00:25:31
I was like Why? Like the first time I thought I was like, That was weird.
00:25:34
Don't know why they did that and then it was like, Okay, it's actually gonna happen every time he touches the ball, which just seems like, like of all like, it's just like, I don't know, man, who's like this is basically they were doubling while the past two Yokich was in the air.
00:25:47
He hadn't even caught the **** ball yet.
00:25:49
And they were like, No, get there, Get there.
00:25:51
Now you see over the top of everybody, like I just I don't know.
00:25:55
That's the double with Marcus.
00:25:57
Moore is at 68 Doesn't do ****.
00:25:59
Oh, sorry. I didn't mean to cut.
00:26:01
I'm sorry, but like that doesn't do anything like congratulations.
00:26:05
You brought a 68 to to get the 71 center.
00:26:07
Okay, Like, what are we doing here? I know and like, it's like, Dude, yoga doesn't take that like he's not gonna like.
00:26:14
He's just he's unfazed.
00:26:15
He's just I don't know.
00:26:17
I just I couldn't believe it.
00:26:18
Um, let's talk a little bit about this Laker.
00:26:20
Siri's a couple of things I think are really important.
00:26:24
Yokich is number is not great against the Lakers this year.
00:26:27
I believe he's 8% lower and these air really small samples.
00:26:31
That might totally mean nothing, but I didn't care about the regular season.
00:26:35
I'm gonna be very clear.
00:26:36
You play that like 72% capacity this regular season, like it was very reminiscent of LeBron James being like I'm playing defense right now.
00:26:44
I don't worry about the playoffs when I get there.
00:26:46
It was very reminiscent of that.
00:26:48
So No, I kind I Even with the Clippers series, I threw it out.
00:26:51
I was e don't care that they lost by 27 of them at one point in, like January.
00:26:55
I just don't care, because, like this Nuggets team in the playoffs was an entirely different beast.
00:26:59
Let's talk about Murray, Then who is another guy who is rising? I'm like, I don't know where to put him on.
00:27:06
This is gonna be fascinating.
00:27:09
I don't I think this is a There's a chance.
00:27:12
He has a really good Now.
00:27:13
Here's the thing is that the Lakers are are much more shrewd at doubling and trapping and doing all these things and forcing the ball out of his hands.
00:27:22
Fine, um, they have a better player that Nuggets Dio who if if that's his, his safety valves.
00:27:30
Nicole Yokich And they're in a, you know, a doubling trapping situation.
00:27:34
I I don't know.
00:27:36
I like this match up a lot more than I thought I would.
00:27:38
Honestly.
00:27:39
Well, I mean Danny Green compared to Kawhi Leonard.
00:27:41
Like I love Danny Green.
00:27:42
I adore Danny Green.
00:27:43
And what he brings to about Ideo I will die on Danny Green Hill.
00:27:46
I don't care if he's 43 years old, so why, like I will die on Danny Green Hill.
00:27:51
This is he's not Kawhi Leonard, Paul George Like, that's the biggest difference.
00:27:55
Tomorrow he's gonna have He's not walking and be like, holy crap in all this room, like people are just mugging me at the point of attack anymore.
00:28:02
I'm not getting picked up 94 ft like this is fantastic.
00:28:05
So I don't think that I think Jamal don't have a huge Siri's.
00:28:08
This is gonna be like Nicole is gonna play great.
00:28:10
Jamal is gonna be the X factor, Which is weird to say about your second best player in a playoff series.
00:28:14
But that is kind of my thinking so far.
00:28:17
Which, to be fair, I'm still trying to get myself acclimated with the syriza's.
00:28:22
Well, I haven't.
00:28:23
I mean, it was good to talk like prepare for this this morning because I was like, I need to, like, think about this series.
00:28:28
I I just haven't put any thought.
00:28:30
I've just been, like, sitting here, like, you know, What is it? Is Wal Murray like a top 30 player right now? The top 20.
00:28:37
Is he a top five point guard right now? That's the question.
00:28:40
I have a tough time answer.
00:28:41
That's the one that I find very interesting, because I mean, you have Steph, you got Harden and Luca.
00:28:46
If you put them there, which I do for fun.
00:28:51
Okay. Okay. Let's talk about you got Steph Curry.
00:28:53
Damian Lillard, Um, maybe three from their CP three right now, I would say, but it's it's it's still a confident, but I would say yes.
00:29:02
Donovan Mitchell.
00:29:04
Donovan Mitchell is actually getting like he's like, I think that's his position of the future.
00:29:09
Is playing like Murray is playing like Murray.
00:29:12
Yeah, like it just like Okay, well, that gives Murray the edge in this conversation.
00:29:15
Pretty pretty substantially then.
00:29:16
Plus, the three point shooting that Murray has is much more sustainable than Donovan Mitchell.
00:29:20
I agree.
00:29:21
I thought he was a look like, You know, I don't know if that's going to translate over time, but I mean, Mitchell's really good, like So, like you're talking 5 to 7 range in terms of point guard ranking for Jamal Murray, and I would have laughed you out of the room like I was.
00:29:34
The guy who was like Mike Conley is better than him to start the season and like that's out of the question now, Like Jamal has grown that much, maybe he'll be in. Also.
00:29:41
Do you think it could be an All Star in the West? Yeah, that's it's hard, but he's making real arguments that he has the ability to do it.
00:29:49
Yeah, I think it will come down to I mean, you have to Whatever.
00:29:53
Yeah, Portland, what happens? Important.
00:29:56
And I Honestly, the Warriors, I'm like, really curious to see what they look like.
00:30:00
Um, it's just I don't know what that's gonna be like after what, Almost two years.
00:30:06
Then again, I mean the team I cover one of the guys doesn't play two years either.
00:30:11
So I haven't talked about Kyrie either.
00:30:13
Yeah, Yeah.
00:30:15
So I'm gonna catch some heat for that.
00:30:19
You know what? I would put it on.
00:30:21
Put this out there.
00:30:22
I'm taking I absolutely taking Jamal Murray of our Kyrie right now.
00:30:26
I can't Don't even think you think you can think about it.
00:30:29
You could do your thing. This is all me.
00:30:31
This is Kyrie.
00:30:32
T J.
00:30:33
McBride is here, and I'm the one talking, but I'm taking Jamal Murray over Kyrie Irving right now.
00:30:37
His leap feels legit.
00:30:40
And he's got the same Kyrie thing where it's like I just, like, trust you in a lot of ways.
00:30:44
Like, and it's like I think that's just so hard to teach where it's just like I'm just that three he hit and again, whatever, They're up 20.
00:30:51
I don't care.
00:30:52
Well, that was the dagger, though.
00:30:53
Like, this is great.
00:30:55
He did that on CO y Leonard.
00:30:58
That's the part people keep forgetting is that he just sprinted around Hawaii and rose up like I He's incredible.
00:31:04
He really is.
00:31:05
Is again another thing that you just like, you know, there's all this, like stuff about Oh, clutch stats are just all noise and all this stuff I'm like I agree, but also like there's just certain things again.
00:31:17
It's It's like they're just supernatural.
00:31:19
It's the super.
00:31:20
Denver Nuggets have been a top three clutch team for four straight years, and they have been number one for the past two.
00:31:24
And they have been number one in the playoffs in the past two years.
00:31:28
Maybe there's something to this may be the really, really e I.
00:31:33
Also by that, Nicola Yokich is one of the best clutch players that basketball is seen in a really, really, really long time.
00:31:38
That's one thing that's overlooked because his game winners look so awful that you don't expect them to ever go in.
00:31:43
But, like Nicole, Yokich has Mawr baskets made in the final 30 seconds of a game toe, either win or to tie than any other player in basketball in past two years.
00:31:52
There you go.
00:31:53
That's the one right there.
00:31:54
That's the I'm cutting that out and we're sharing that tomorrow.
00:31:57
That's what this is gonna be that will be all you need to know.
00:32:00
Uh, yeah, I, uh I don't know.
00:32:04
I don't I think I think Murray's top.
00:32:06
I have to make my top player list.
00:32:08
I try to do it at the end of every regular season, every postseason.
00:32:11
Better you than me.
00:32:12
I want no part of those ranking list. So congratulations.
00:32:15
I love I love getting just ended.
00:32:18
I had somebody in my or mentions the other week about my Middleton or I had Middleton was like, Wait, where did you have Middleton? I had 21.
00:32:27
Believe that's fine.
00:32:28
There's nothing wrong with it.
00:32:30
Yeah, it was.
00:32:31
I was like, I'm not gonna go super high on him.
00:32:32
I It's funny.
00:32:33
I actually think Jordan, I love I think Paul, George and Middleton are closer than then.
00:32:39
People are typically gonna think I was just like eso, but yeah, I mean, Murray's legit, and I want to see it this serious.
00:32:47
I think he's gonna have a big Syria's.
00:32:49
The one that's like really interesting for me is how to the nuggets stop the Lakers not stop.
00:32:55
Put a little didn't in the Lakers pick and roll.
00:32:58
I just I don't know.
00:33:00
I have no idea.
00:33:03
I don't know who the guy is gonna be like.
00:33:05
Well, they're going to start Jeremy grants and defend LEBRON with him.
00:33:08
That is goingto happen.
00:33:10
Um, if they started matchup e.
00:33:13
I mean, of the of the available options.
00:33:16
Yes, there's not a whole lot of guys Grant was off stood.
00:33:20
I give him a Tanaka who I had some big games, but he's also co y letter.
00:33:24
So, like I'm not really concerned about that.
00:33:26
Everything was difficult for co.
00:33:27
I agree.
00:33:28
Nothing was easy and Jeremy grants length and physicality was a serious factor.
00:33:33
And even more than that, going back when he was on Oklahoma City and they played the Spurs last year, guess who was the guy checking Kawhi Leonard the whole time it was Jeremy Grant.
00:33:41
This is not new to him.
00:33:42
So I think Jeremy Grant is gonna end up defending LeBron James is gonna take a whole team to defend LeBron, of course, but you're starting.
00:33:49
Their Nicola will be on whatever center is on the court.
00:33:53
And then you put Paul Millsap on Anthony Davis.
00:33:55
That's the way that I see this plane now.
00:33:57
Guards. I don't care.
00:33:58
Gary Harris, Jamal Murray, switch everything.
00:34:00
I really don't care.
00:34:01
But when it comes to download, I think you have to put Paul Millsap on Anthony Davis.
00:34:05
Not Jeremy Grant because I don't think Paul can stick with LeBron James.
00:34:08
I also think like he's I mean, Millsap that he's declined in certain ways.
00:34:12
His hands are still a fast as ever, so if you try to get him in there to just, like, get a little bit of post position.
00:34:17
Also, Paul Millsap got a lot of flak from the Jazz Siri's, but that he was put in an impossible situation.
00:34:22
He was asked to rotate to Rudy Gobert, rolling to the rim and then somehow get all the way out to the corner where Joe Ingles is relocating to the wing.
00:34:30
Like Paul Millsap was put in an unwinnable situation in that jazz Siri's.
00:34:33
He was so much better in that Clippers Siri's.
00:34:37
So I think that the demise of Paul Millsap has been far too early.
00:34:41
I think we're going to see a very good Paul Millsap Siris in this Laker Siri's.
00:34:45
Do you think it comes back? Are you guys what's your? I think so only because there's no money out there so like you're going to get a guy like that on on the taxpayer mid level, like, I really think that that's kind of the outcome that we're looking at and also what's up? What was Denver? He loves the guys.
00:34:59
He loves the coach. He loves the organization.
00:35:01
And he believes this is a group you can win with.
00:35:03
And it's the kind of group he wants to win with.
00:35:05
Last year, in exit interviews, he said, like I could go to the Warriors.
00:35:08
The Warriors would want me.
00:35:09
Like who? That makes a lot of sense on paper because I wanna be here like, this is the way I wanna win.
00:35:14
I've been overlooked my whole life.
00:35:16
I would rather win with an overlooked team that you just run to the title contender.
00:35:20
I just had to do the temperature check.
00:35:21
I'm gonna do it every time I'm here for man s o Millsap is gonna be the guy for this pick and roll scenario.
00:35:31
So what other things can they dio against the Lakers? And I don't know how much you thought about this, because again, we're still writing this, uh, the nuggets or the next warriors.
00:35:40
Nicole, I'm all writing this, but I want to sort of think through this right now and think about other things.
00:35:46
I could Dio this is gonna sound crazy, but they need to find a way to get Anthony Davis switched onto onto Nicole Yokich.
00:35:53
They have to do this because if you can get a d on Yokich is back, you could be physical with him.
00:35:58
You compound him, you could get him in foul trouble.
00:36:00
Yokich does a phenomenal job, uh, catching non shooting fouls just in his post move there so obscure and arbitrary that you don't know where.
00:36:09
Yeah, so they don't know where they're coming from and guys end up fouling him as he gets into his post moves.
00:36:13
I think getting Paul Millsap Nicola Yokich 45 d a chose to get the switch and then attack Anthony Davis and pull him out of the paint is the best way that Denver is going to be able to create a sustainable offense.
00:36:25
If you let Anthony Davis to sit in the dunker spot with Paul Millsap and you let him rotate over from the weak side, just destroy everything at the rim, you're done.
00:36:34
So I think that Denver has to find a way to get that switch if he's not already defending him, pop out and get him out of the paint or shoot threes and then destroy them at the rim because it's the only way you're pulling them out defensively.
00:36:47
Is there anything I could be? Oh, just bleed into this.
00:36:50
I think that you're gonna be relying on Palm.
00:36:52
They'll have a whole lot weak side on the weak side defensively, just rotating over and helping out.
00:36:56
Because, like Nicola Yokich, as much as I think that he has grown a ton, he struggles with a lob.
00:37:02
That has been the biggest difficulty he's had in his MBA career.
00:37:05
On the defensive end of the floor on LeBron James knows that, and he is going to just run, pick and roll with Anthony Davis until the sun dies, because why else would you do anything else? So that's what I'm looking at.
00:37:15
I'm expecting ah lot of that, which is going to require Paul Millsap absolutely selling out from the weak side to get their Denver's second line defense of rotating The three point shooters is going to have to be perfect for this to work, but that's what they've been doing.
00:37:29
They've been playing with fire for to Siri's now here they are.
00:37:32
So maybe there's something to it.
00:37:34
Three games in who is not gonna be in the rotation from both sides.
00:37:37
Who do you think that's played out? I think torrent.
00:37:40
Um, I would lean towards Tory Craig, I think.
00:37:45
But I don't know.
00:37:46
I actually you know what I did.
00:37:47
I gonna want to defend Kuzma with him off the bench.
00:37:50
Yeah, I also think you need as many, like just guys that have a little bit of size to that.
00:37:55
But at the same time, like Tory, Craig has not helped their defense when he's been on the floor because he's not as good at defending.
00:38:01
Oh, he's not as good defending Big Wings.
00:38:02
He's good at defending guards as a wing.
00:38:04
He's not as good at defending the Kawhi Leonard as he is defending the C J. McCollum of the world.
00:38:09
So that is a hard thing for when he hasn't been able to give you anything offensively.
00:38:12
Like you might get a three here or a backdoor cut, their nothing sustainable nothing that you could be like.
00:38:17
He has to be defended now, so I want to say Tory Craig, Michael Malone has never gone away from him.
00:38:23
So, like, that's me saying that.
00:38:25
Not Michael Malone hat on saying that.
00:38:27
But I do think that you're going to see all of the same 98 guys play in the Siri's.
00:38:33
And that is what I'm expecting from the Lakers side of things, though, Um, I wonder how much Rajon Rondo will be able to continue to play if Jamal Murray is just running him through screens? Mm, I don't know.
00:38:45
I think that what the Lakers are gonna try and do is they're gonna be, like, all right anymore.
00:38:48
Size and length and defensive pressure on Jamal Murray.
00:38:50
Let's put Raj on out there and there's there's they're gonna running the staggered screens sets and just running through three different screens and see if you can keep up, and I'm not sure if he'll be able to.
00:38:58
We'll have to wait and see.
00:38:59
But if he doesn't hit threes and you can't defend Murray, then there's not a great role for Russia on right there.
00:39:04
Yeah, he's interesting.
00:39:06
I feel like it's funny, like it's it's these two.
00:39:09
It's him and Millsap.
00:39:10
They could like, kind of swing the Siris for their respective teams.
00:39:14
very.
00:39:15
It's odd, right? Like I mean, it is.
00:39:17
It is like, you know, like the Lakers have no creation.
00:39:19
So, like the only other creator on the roster is Rondo.
00:39:23
So, like they need to be able to get some kind of ability to reverse the court like Denver got killed by that and the first Siri's against Utah because they hadn't like once they trap Jamal, he was like, Okay, where do I go? There's nobody ever decide who could dribble the basketball, so this isn't working very well, and I think that the Lakers might run into that if Rondo doesn't play well.
00:39:40
So I think Rondo playing badly is the most important thing for the Nuggets.
00:39:43
But if he plays well, it might be the death of them.
00:39:47
Are those your X factors? I, I don't think they would.
00:39:50
I would put Michael Porter Jr is the X factor.
00:39:53
I I want to say Jamal Murray, but he's the second best player, so that's like unbelievable amounts of cheating.
00:39:57
So I'm gonna go with Michael Porter Jr on that one.
00:39:59
Just because toe have an explosive score off the bench against the bench that doesn't score a whole lot for the Lakers.
00:40:04
Like who's gonna have his nights? But you're not gonna be like, Oh, they're going to score 29 tonight Like that's not something you expect from the Lakers bench.
00:40:11
So I think Michael Porter could be impactful, and I also think his size could be helpful.
00:40:15
Michael Porter Jr has shown that he can wrote it over from the weak side and disrupt things.
00:40:18
So maybe Michael Porter Jr plays more minutes than I anticipated.
00:40:21
Will play? I don't think so, Expert LeBron James.
00:40:24
I'm like rookie rookie, Go get home like immediately, But we'll have to wait and see.
00:40:29
I will.
00:40:30
Barton would be mine.
00:40:31
I don't know.
00:40:32
I don't know if he's gonna be Nobody does.
00:40:35
It makes you feel any better.
00:40:36
Nobody knows.
00:40:37
Like I have been digging and digging and digging and digging.
00:40:39
I probably hit up like seven sources trying to figure out.
00:40:42
And where Will Barton is that including people close toe? Will Barton and I.
00:40:46
I don't know.
00:40:47
So it's going to be one of those things we will.
00:40:49
Barton is not going to release information until he knows you'll come back because it's very disadvantageous That might not be a word, but I think it sounds good.
00:40:58
This advantageous was definitely just created in my brain, but you haven't slept in days.
00:41:05
But if well, Martin does come back, that shifts.
00:41:09
Ah, whole lot for the Nuggets, not even on the court.
00:41:12
Emotionally real.
00:41:13
Barton's the emotional leader of this team.
00:41:16
The fact that they have done this without him is very impressive to everybody in the Nuggets circle, because people don't see it outside of it and that they shouldn't have to.
00:41:24
It's very, um, you have to be very close to this group to see how important Will Barton is off the court, but for the fact that they've been able to battle back and be this resilient without that guy in the locker room has been really incredible, getting him back for a Siris of the magnitude of the Lakers.
00:41:38
Regardless of what it was in, the court is going to help.
00:41:41
And again, he's that other creator.
00:41:42
You could just throw him out there on the bench with Monte Morris, and suddenly you have two guys who can create on either side of the floor, and that's huge to be able to attack different defense, and it helps in the non because another, a big key and a kind of similar to the last year They did this with a Salmon Ali and we were going over the Houston, the Lakers matchup just being like Okay, so who's gonna win the non harden, non LeBron minutes? I feel like you kind of run into that a little bit in this series, and I think he's a big swing factor in that.
00:42:08
If he's out there when you're not playing with Yokich as much for sure, and then who's most? The other guy for the Lakers, like who's my has to be great off the bench like he just has to be.
00:42:17
You know what? My X factor is a weird one.
00:42:19
I think it's working.
00:42:20
Morris Morris was like hitting three.
00:42:23
It was a big thing.
00:42:24
It allowed them to play idiot that there is nothing better for opposing teams than when Marcus or Mark Keith Morris making shots in Game one.
00:42:31
That is like the suddenly the Morris Twins become the second best player on the Nuggets because they're just like obliterating every good opportunity for the lake.
00:42:39
The thing is, though, they got enough good games from Markieff Morris.
00:42:42
I don't think it's sustainable.
00:42:43
I don't like the Morris, but I don't think anybody e don't know anybody who's like you wanna fish and offense.
00:42:47
You'll get a Morris brother like That's not a thing you dio.
00:42:50
But if it continues, I don't really know what it does because it gives you a little bit of it was like a huge thing.
00:42:55
I was like, Oh my God, I stretch for like, this is so weird to see out there I kind of feel like it is.
00:43:00
It's also a huge X factor for the Nuggets.
00:43:03
He's shooting the volatile because, like Marcus Morris in the Clippers, Siris was.
00:43:10
He killed them in Game one.
00:43:11
Like Denver was just ruined because Marcus Morris hit shots and then Marcus Morris did nothing like he talked a lot of shots, None of them went in and it was very advantageous for the Nuggets.
00:43:21
So I don't know you hate it.
00:43:23
I hate it's like the Stanley Johnson of veterans for me, like I just I hate guys like they just don't give me anything that I like in a basketball team nothing about the people honestly don't like the people very much what they do on the court.
00:43:36
But regardless of that, like there's a Bush League fouled by Marcus Morris from the Game seven of the Clippers.
00:43:42
Game down 18 in the fourth quarter of Game seven.
00:43:45
Like I hate that stuff.
00:43:47
Hate it.
00:43:48
Bush league, but maybe and honestly, he could be.
00:43:50
If he does sustainably hit shots, Denver might be doomed.
00:43:54
Like if you could suddenly rely on on Markieff Morris just killing Denver, then that's very difficult to overcome.
00:44:00
You would need Michael Porter's You need to play well at that point.
00:44:04
Speaking of Michael Porter Jr and all the players named Let's Go through top seven players.
00:44:11
We could even go to 10 because you were on both teams.
00:44:14
If we're just ranking way go LeBron, I think the start This is okay, that's interesting.
00:44:20
So then you immediately go to go to Nicola.
00:44:22
I put Nicole over Davis.
00:44:24
I okay with that doesn't bother me.
00:44:26
You think he impacts winning more than Davis does. I will.
00:44:29
I'm also of the mind that like Kool A.
00:44:31
D had 33 22 rebounds, forest system was a minus 14.
00:44:34
I don't believe in.
00:44:36
And the Davis as much as some people dio So I would say it's probably LeBron Yokich Davis Murray? Yep.
00:44:43
And then things get very, very subjective.
00:44:48
Um, I'm gonna take Jeremy Grant. Next.
00:44:51
I was gonna say Grant and I might Gary Harris next.
00:44:54
I'm not willing, Thio.
00:44:56
I'm the biggest.
00:44:57
I might be the only nuggets media member still like proudly on Gary Harris Island because I'm not leaving, but I'm not putting on that high on this.
00:45:05
Still e think I would put Paul Millsap higher than him on this? Um, just because you're like Gary Harris being deployed on Danny Green isn't necessarily going to shift anything for Denver.
00:45:18
You know, like his defense isn't gonna like.
00:45:20
Magnificently shift.
00:45:21
This Siri's Paul Millsap was a weak side.
00:45:23
Rotator is gonna be so much more important than Gary Harris is perimeter defense.
00:45:27
And that's not an indictment on Murray are on Harris.
00:45:29
It is 100% just the matchup.
00:45:31
So I would probably put Millsap hire him, But then I don't know where to go from there.
00:45:38
Who would you have next? I still want to. I don't know.
00:45:43
I mean, who's the third best player for the Lakers, Right? Is it Wando? Has it been Rondo? It has, Right? That's the terrifying.
00:45:49
It hasn't been done.
00:45:51
It like a honestly, in this Siri's.
00:45:54
It's probably Dana Green because he's probably the one checking Jamal Murray, right? Oh, I just like I haven't seen anything.
00:46:00
Anything good from day greedy and I really don't know.
00:46:04
I just like I think historically, I wanna look at Danny Green, but like, yeah, he's probably gonna be the third best player.
00:46:09
I kind of thought that when he signed there last year, I he's lost a step or two, and I think it's a really bad matchup.
00:46:15
I think there's gonna be a lot of times where it's like, Oh, wow, like, you know, Danny Green is like 15 ft by player, a high screen or whatever.
00:46:23
I'm just like or a dribble handoff, and he just doesn't know how to get around it.
00:46:26
Um, so I guess the important person Yeah, and I would say KCP greener Rondo.
00:46:34
Whoever defends Murray the most is probably the next most important person of syriza.
00:46:37
E also should maybe throw out.
00:46:40
So I was just about to say Caruso is the kind of guard to give Denver just fits like guys who are physical guys who were unrelenting like Patrick.
00:46:50
Beverley has killed the Nuggets doing this for a long time, and Alice Caruso has similar, not the I'm not gonna get there.
00:46:57
He's very much so physical and pesty like that, and you can give you something offensively and he's a better creator.
00:47:04
So I do think you have something there when it comes to Alex Alex Caruso.
00:47:08
I just don't know.
00:47:09
Like I'm looking at this bench unit right now for the for the for the Lakers, who is? They're big because you're talking about just playing Kuzma at backup center.
00:47:18
Unless you're playing McGee, which hasn't played a whole lot.
00:47:22
Yep, and and Howard has been just like he's not a disaster.
00:47:25
He played 4.
00:47:26
5 minutes left in their last game.
00:47:28
It was like it's it's done.
00:47:29
The Howard thing is, it's done.
00:47:30
Yeah, so which is which is big for Denver.
00:47:33
Oh, by the way, I would so much rather Nicola, you could just make JaVale McGee look ridiculously stupid than have to deal with the physicality of Dwight Howard.
00:47:40
That's that's a win for Denver.
00:47:41
Um, so I do wonder if javale McGee gets on this list pretty quickly.
00:47:46
Would you have him? Or so we have LeBron Nicole Yokich a D Murray.
00:47:50
Grant Millsap.
00:47:51
Are we going? Rondo Caruso, We're gonna sneak Gary Harrison there.
00:47:54
Are we gonna your call? I am cool with consensus, which is just you at this point.
00:47:59
So I would probably say, Caruso, I'm gonna put I think you have to put Caruso in Rondo because they're going to guard murder.
00:48:07
And I think that you put Gary Harris in there because, I mean, who's Gary Harris? That that's my point.
00:48:11
He's not going anybody.
00:48:12
He's guarded KCP or Danny Green, which isn't gonna be that impactful for U.
00:48:16
S.
00:48:18
O.
00:48:19
Although this is one thing that they did against Houston in the regular season, they would put Gary Harris on Daniel House or Eric Gordon.
00:48:23
They'd be like we're going to send were doubles at you.
00:48:25
That's that's what I was thinking is you have him kind of.
00:48:27
You kind of have him help off a little bit, especially.
00:48:29
I need to go back and dig up the film study I did from that Rockets game because Gary Harris is defense in that.
00:48:34
In that game, it was like I actually asked Michael Malone afterwards, Like, Was there any kind of like plan at all these double supposed to get there? And they and they said literally, We gave Gary Harris all of the freedom on when to double and where to double from.
00:48:48
And because of that, nobody knew and nobody knew when and nobody knew from where, and nobody knew which direction.
00:48:53
Nobody knew at what time.
00:48:55
And it was so difficult to quantify for the opposing offense that it threw everything into chaos.
00:49:00
So maybe if you do have him on KCP or you do have him on Danny Green, maybe he is more important because of what he could do on a guy like LeBron James with the ball in his hands in the pick and roll.
00:49:09
Yeah, I think that's an interesting idea.
00:49:12
A little bit.
00:49:13
I also would be very careful of that, because it's LeBron is gonna It's LeBron James.
00:49:17
Yeah, it's not an all out double.
00:49:20
I wanna make this very It was a swipe.
00:49:23
Get your body in recover double and that's very different than what, like the Clippers were do wonders.
00:49:28
They they were basically like it was like playing fall guys and diving over the barriers what they were doing and that like it was awful.
00:49:36
So, like, I'm not saying double like that.
00:49:38
I'm saying that they need to be able to give him pressure from guys who aren't the initiating defender.
00:49:44
And I think Gary Harris could do a really good job of that.
00:49:48
Yeah, I think I think he's.
00:49:50
It'll be tricky.
00:49:52
I mean, the threes, they're gonna be huge for him.
00:49:53
Like e.
00:49:54
I feel like we've said every single time.
00:49:56
Yes, that's the Gary Harris U S.
00:49:59
Oh, that'll be big for him.
00:50:00
It's weird.
00:50:01
I almost wonder if his offensive production is gonna like Is it going to be more important than his defensive production? I don't know, but it's definitely one of the big keys for them.
00:50:09
They need to make their threes against this.
00:50:11
This Lakers team, which did a fantastic job selling out against the Rockets.
00:50:15
I'm gonna finish off 10. I wanna put Kuzma.
00:50:18
I think Kuzma deserves to be on this list.
00:50:20
I'm gonna put him over to veil McGee.
00:50:22
I would hope so.
00:50:23
If Kuzma is not as impactful.
00:50:25
JaVale McGee in the Serie That's bad for the Lakers.
00:50:27
He's been good.
00:50:28
He's been like, really, he's been good.
00:50:30
He's had his games where he's looked a little out of his element, but he's been really good defensively, and I've been.
00:50:34
That part has been impressive.
00:50:35
The offense he screwed on in this series defensively because if I'm Denver, I'm like Monte Morris.
00:50:40
Call for Michael Porter genius screen every time Cousins script guarding them like put him in every action and make him either defend the paint or defend Michael Porter Jr shooting from the wing because he's big enough to feel like he can contest.
00:50:52
Michael Porter Jr ain't gonna give two ****s if his hands in the air.
00:50:55
So I think that you can make him completely un functional.
00:50:59
I think the Nuggets have this system to just remove Kuzma from the SYRIZA on on the bench unit.
00:51:04
I really dare to use Kyle Kuzma was just wonderful.
00:51:08
Wonderful quote.
00:51:09
You could put Jesus in front of Michael Porter Jr.
00:51:12
You yes, yes, Porter Jr Straight upset, he was asked after one of the seating games when he was just like, you know, Michael Jordan for a hot minute there, he was asked, Like when you got when guys close out to you, do you notice? And he was like they might be there.
00:51:28
That was his answer.
00:51:29
They might be there.
00:51:30
He has no idea.
00:51:32
He's so tall, has so much lift. And he has.
00:51:35
Eyes are just always looking over the defense.
00:51:37
He doesn't feel anybody defending three at all.
00:51:41
Could it be a better Siris for him? It just depends.
00:51:45
Michael Porter Jr is a rookie in a playoff series in the Western Conference finals.
00:51:49
Maybe just if he's like mistake prone, that's really going to show up against this.
00:51:54
This Lakers team, which he was easier to be hidden against the Clippers.
00:51:58
Yeah, that's I think, going to be the biggest difference in this series, and that one is LeBron again.
00:52:01
LeBron James gonna see a rookie, and it's like barbecue chicken time like they're gonna go cook that kid.
00:52:07
But I you have to play him and LeBron is off the floor and Rondo like that's the hard part because both of those duties too smart to veteran Lee savvy.
00:52:16
They know what to do when you see a rookie on the floor who has trouble defending a pick and roll.
00:52:20
You attack him over and over and over and over again.
00:52:22
So we'll have to wait and see if they're able to attack him that way.
00:52:26
If they do, it's gonna be tough going from Michael Porter Jr.
00:52:29
Yeah, it's so he'd be the non LeBron Minutes guy and you just try it out.
00:52:33
Game one Game ones are always wonky, and you just see what you could do. All right, I like that.
00:52:37
I like the thoughts that I think we've hit some good stuff.
00:52:39
Leads to predictions. Let's do it.
00:52:41
Let's do it.
00:52:42
We're getting right into it. Doing some hip hop. Closing this out.
00:52:46
I'm taking Lakers than six, but I'm winning closer to seven than five.
00:52:50
Yeah, I think I'm gonna dio I have Lakers seven.
00:52:53
I think this is gonna be a good Siri's.
00:52:54
I just It's the old It's the old classic TV argument.
00:52:59
They have three of the best of the two of the three best players in the Siri's.
00:53:02
I just don't know you stop the pick and roll and I just I have tried every little thing in my brain.
00:53:06
I thought about If you rotate guys over and then it comes into, like Okay, wait, who's rotating over? Is it Michael Porter Jr.
00:53:11
So I don't know.
00:53:13
I don't know how you stop it.
00:53:14
And it it's It just feels like it.
00:53:17
If LeBron goes into a Game seven with this Nuggets team and he's just going to control things in the pick and roll and just it's the one thing I'll say about Game seven and I was talking to Matt more about this off the podcast, it was just like him and I talking.
00:53:29
He's a sports betting guy, obviously, the action networks we worked for, um, did you know that unders in game sevens in basketball since 2010 unders in under the total point total have hit 69.
00:53:40
2% of the time? Teams like this is a coin flip.
00:53:46
This is a coin flip of tickets to Game seven.
00:53:48
This is how I felt in the in the Clippers.
00:53:49
Syriza's well, momentum no longer matters.
00:53:51
Your star players no longer matters.
00:53:52
Are you going to get that random three pointer from Tory Craig.
00:53:55
That's what game sevens come down to, so I don't if it gets to Game seven, flip a coin.
00:54:01
So darts of the board.
00:54:02
I don't care how you try and figure it out, but there's no prediction to be made if it gets to seven.
00:54:07
Denver has Justus good of Ah, just as the Lakers do.
00:54:10
That's truly how I feel and you have the weight of expectations.
00:54:13
I think that that's a big thing, too, is, like again, just these little things that you can't really quite quantify.
00:54:18
Like if you're the Lakers and you have a D and LeBron, you've traded a million picks would which, once again having to face no, I get that you're playing trading two million gets treating one first round pick for Jerry Grant and then eliminating the teams who have traded a combined 27 of them.
00:54:33
To build this team is it's absolutely hysterical.
00:54:35
Paul George had less made jumpers in that Game seven than the total number of first round picks that were traded for him.
00:54:45
It's I'm still riding the high of this.
00:54:47
It's been it's been an all timer.
00:54:49
I'm like, Wow, I love Twitter like I'm like, I haven't felt this strongly about Twitter, and I don't even know how long.
00:54:54
E love it.
00:54:56
It was so much that was like peak slander from like from like warriors blowing a 31 lead.
00:55:01
That was the last time we had that level of slander.
00:55:04
I think it, yeah, it's funny, because the Clippers were also just so much more hate Herbal like, It's just like that's the even better part of this.
00:55:14
It's like every part of this was this was funny.
00:55:17
I don't even hate the Clippers team.
00:55:18
I am like I was one of the only people who watch the Warriors get Kevin Durant.
00:55:21
And I was like, Yes, dominance.
00:55:23
I love seeing like true dominance in sports.
00:55:26
It's rare. You don't get to watch dynasties.
00:55:28
This Clippers team.
00:55:29
I felt that way all the way until they lost and they were like, but we weren't in the bubble enough together against the Nuggets.
00:55:35
Seen that started Bull Bull at shooting guard because Troy Daniels was the Onley Garden. The bubble.
00:55:41
Oh, but you know what? We were fatigue.
00:55:43
We were tired against the Nuggets team that had played seven games against the Jazz prior to this, that when I was done, I was like, Take your excuses, the out of here.
00:55:51
I can't do it. I don't wanna hear it.
00:55:53
You're all trash.
00:55:54
Patrick Beverley yelling about flailing when they had 26 free throws.
00:55:57
Numbers 10 like No, um, I do not feel bad living your mediocrity for a long time. Clippers.
00:56:03
I'm cool with it.
00:56:04
Yeah, it's funny.
00:56:05
Like we had a solid 10 minutes about Global in our first stream.
00:56:08
Like, yes, 10 minutes toe lead on every radio hit.
00:56:11
It is Bowl bowl, Gonna play in the playoffs He the new backup center.
00:56:14
And I was like, guys like, jeez way, we're ready.
00:56:19
We're like energy there it was on Volvo.
00:56:21
No, it's It's funny.
00:56:23
I mean, I I honestly I was one of those people.
00:56:25
I really like them on paper.
00:56:26
I like the idea of it just throwing that many, you know, defenders out there.
00:56:30
But like everything that's transpired since then, I'm just kind of like, Yeah, I'm kind of with it.
00:56:34
Like through this, Like you guys air.
00:56:37
I don't know.
00:56:38
It's an attitude things.
00:56:39
So, um, are you sure? So we got Lakers six for you, Lakers seven for me.
00:56:43
Expected to be a good Siri's honestly like idea.
00:56:46
And I'm just going to say I'm ready for the Nuggets like I don't think anybody isn't Onley.
00:56:52
Lakers fans are rooting for the Lakers, right? Like I'm not a Nuggets fan, but I would love to see the Nuggets beat the Lakers.
00:56:57
And what's funny is this is a really likable Lakers team, like, I genuinely think there pretty likable.
00:57:01
They play at certain style and they stick to it and it's like they just take care of business and I don't know.
00:57:07
I find them pretty enjoyable and likable, and there are also different.
00:57:11
You know what I mean? Like, it's this giant team in a bunch of like, you know, it's just different.
00:57:16
They're not as balances, the remaining teams, but in that way, they're cool.
00:57:19
I think so.
00:57:20
So, yeah, I I would, uh I hope this is a good Siri's, and it's been an awesome playoffs, honestly, like the last two weeks.
00:57:28
Eventually, if there's one thing to finish out basketball conversation on nothing matters from the Nuggets perspective anymore.
00:57:33
This is all house money like right Now the Nuggets are the dude who is 22 years old at the casino table up like six grand and just throwing around like that's like anything else from now on.
00:57:43
Doesn't matter.
00:57:44
The Nuggets of already proven with any to prove agreed, agreed.
00:57:47
My friends, Let's do hip hop.
00:57:49
Let's D Oh, alright, First off hit boys having a just wonderful your production wise.
00:57:55
Uh, I don't know if you the nozzle was good.
00:57:57
Like I'm just gonna It's It's good.
00:58:00
I mean, compared.
00:58:01
It was every nice album ever.
00:58:02
It was like, Man, you songs.
00:58:04
It was like, No, it's every Knauss album ever like Man that third of the album so disagree.
00:58:09
I so disagree.
00:58:11
I thought it was the first album I've listened to top to bottom where I was like this was enjoyable, it disease, talking about right, Yeah, and I thought it was because it's not to say that like, everything was trash on it, but those songs, but like again, it was like there are three songs that were regularly play and then nothing else that I really need to go back.
00:58:31
Thio.
00:58:32
It was good, though it was good in terms of like hip hop artists 15 years out of their prime.
00:58:37
Like this is great stuff.
00:58:38
But that doesn't happen very often.
00:58:39
Like this is probably better than 4 44.
00:58:41
I'll say that much.
00:58:42
Yeah, I would agree. I would agree.
00:58:44
E mean that New Jersey is no way.
00:58:48
Don't have toe still act like either.
00:58:51
Like, I'm like, Do not turn that on once and I was like, e I got through three I pride myself in like I'll get through your 12 Drake tracks. Just a track.
00:59:01
I will give you the time I got through like I would say, three tracks for 44.
00:59:05
I was like, I never need to come back to this and I'm good.
00:59:08
Good luck. Have fun.
00:59:09
Yeah.
00:59:10
No, The Nas album It was It flowed well on it sounded modern, and I'm going to give him that, and I didn't hate, like sometimes I'm always like I just don't know if old school artists sound good on newer production, but I thought sonically it was It was it was better than what we've gotten in some of the years.
00:59:31
It's not like a classic album, but I thought it was good.
00:59:33
What have you got for me? What? You've been listening.
00:59:35
Okay, so it's a week removed from the, I believe, 12 year, and I know it's been longer than that.
00:59:40
Well, I can't remember how many years it's been since equipment I dropped, but it's been about like we're at the anniversary a week ago.
00:59:46
So I have had equipment on vinyl going recently that has been very enjoyable.
00:59:50
And then why G? Tut? I don't know if anybody knows this dude at a Chattanooga.
00:59:54
He's actually Uh, yeah, so this guy is awesome with Isaiah Rashad.
00:59:59
They've done a lot of music together as well.
01:00:00
He had a new album Come out that's also very, very good, and I have enjoyed that.
01:00:04
And then I've gotten trap E.
01:00:05
I've gotten into old Playboy Cardy with, like, 1000 band funny and stuff like that.
01:00:08
Like I've gotten into, like, very yeah, I get into, like when I start writing a lot out turned trap on don't know why, like interested you like it's screen recording like E.
01:00:22
I was cutting clips that I forgot.
01:00:23
The sound was still on the buddy, and I was like, I should probably during this off.
01:00:30
That might be, you know, that's that's the ****e that a film study needs.
01:00:35
E don't know.
01:00:36
Just like the weird background music from my Google home like that.
01:00:39
You know, that's necessarily the go thio.
01:00:42
But also maybe not the move.
01:00:44
I went old school.
01:00:46
I went to training Day not by Kendrick Lamar by k dot the old school ****.
01:00:51
Oh, dude, I live for K dot stuff, but I live for old black hippy stuff.
01:00:55
So that is also where I've been living.
01:00:57
And if you guys want to get like I white boy hip hop, I'm gonna be honest atmosphere and and the murders they used to go else dropped the new album.
01:01:06
It's so good.
01:01:07
Thank you. I was bringing that.
01:01:09
That was on my my little doc, and I'm like, I got to make sure I bring this up.
01:01:12
I have a soft spot for atmospheres for slug in My Heart and also the murmurs 3 16.
01:01:17
The ninth edition is one of my favorite produced albums of all time.
01:01:20
Like Ninth Wonder Walk Like a Man.
01:01:23
It was one of the greatest tracks and one of the best transitions from beat to beat I've ever heard in my life like he is that good.
01:01:31
Also shot to the fast anti lounge Let's go wonder on his instagram lies.
01:01:35
It was fun, man.
01:01:37
Agreed.
01:01:38
Um, yeah, Funny, actually, I'm still listen to the atmosphere album from last year.
01:01:42
I think with I haven't liked a lot of new slug stuff e I go back to, like seven Travels like like my like.
01:01:51
My dad had the overcast cassette in his eight track plan.
01:01:55
Like Like I have always been a big fan of slug, but, like, as he's kind of gotten to this more mature adult, haven't enjoyed it as much like Yeah, and it wasn't a dad wrapped like it was.
01:02:06
I'm like, I'm cool with it.
01:02:07
Some of it I'm like, Yeah, it's not bad.
01:02:10
It's just not five.
01:02:12
No man like I'm telling you God's bathroom floor.
01:02:15
It was like a revolutionary hip hop track in my world, like I loved that track and, like the atmosphere really is like I saw atmosphere, Ethnic.
01:02:23
I don't know if you've looked up any of his live stuff on YouTube.
01:02:25
There's a video of him at Red Rocks of one of those red rock performances from, like, seven years ago in the summertime with it, like barely raining throughout the dude I was at that show.
01:02:33
One is still the most spiritual show I've ever been to, like.
01:02:37
Yeah, I will always have a soft spot in my soul for slug.
01:02:41
I will. I will.
01:02:42
I will, Um, What's the one thing about about red rocks, man? Denver's got red rocks.
01:02:45
It's a heck of a venue.
01:02:47
I've never I've never seen or heard or done too much really know too much about it.
01:02:52
Yeah, it's incredible.
01:02:54
Yeah, this is the way, Um, I'm plugging.
01:02:58
I've mentioned this a couple of times.
01:02:59
See you soon.
01:03:00
All under case all one word.
01:03:02
It's a mix of Gold Link and Brock Hampton.
01:03:07
I would say it's what? Yeah, it Z how do you get, like, African diaspora? Gold link? Oh, Brockett e.
01:03:16
It's really dope, though.
01:03:18
I've been listening to it a lot and like, yeah, Zack and I don't I just found it on, like, apple music, just like they do new releases.
01:03:26
And I was like, What is this? And I was just like, whoa.
01:03:28
Like what? What is going on? like I'm like, This is an experience.
01:03:32
It's really eclectic.
01:03:35
And I've been on my flea, Lord Conway, the machine.
01:03:39
I've been on that a lot lately because I'm in New York, and I just think I've leaned in that, which is hilarious because I'm still like I looking at it.
01:03:48
I'm the same rare, like I'm from California myself.
01:03:51
Man, it's the same thing.
01:03:53
But, I mean, I love the hip hop scene out here, and this was a different switch. So see you soon.
01:04:01
I don't know how I really came across it, but it's been really good.
01:04:05
And the album is called V Day.
01:04:07
I believe so.
01:04:08
If we're plugging people who are not heard from enough, go check out Nicholas F out of Richmond, Virginia.
01:04:13
Oh, I I c k e l U s.
01:04:16
It is actually a home.
01:04:17
Your mind? I used to work with Drake.
01:04:19
Yeah, once you got that one track out there, but yeah, man, that's my guy.
01:04:25
And his music is good.
01:04:26
If you wanna get really weird, go find his battle raps.
01:04:29
Nobody battle raps like Nicholas F.
01:04:31
Yes, and another guy that makes, like very, uh, just different.
01:04:35
Just different.
01:04:36
Different music is kind of and he's like the big Crip model of, like, mix master produce and write everything he does.
01:04:44
Um, yeah, definitely a unique sound.
01:04:46
Kind of like I don't Do you know Vic Spencer? No.
01:04:50
Expensive.
01:04:51
This is the one writing it down. This is rare.
01:04:53
That I come with you and me are the same way.
01:04:55
Like I don't not find hip hop very often.
01:04:57
So it's my clear.
01:04:59
So forces, by the way.
01:05:00
Yeah, literally.
01:05:02
J Dilla is one of my good homies.
01:05:03
So that's awesome. Nice.
01:05:05
Yeah, that he also had a new project a year ago.
01:05:08
Like, I guess I don't I don't know time anymore.
01:05:10
I don't have time doesn't exist.
01:05:12
E don't know.
01:05:13
It could have been a month ago.
01:05:14
It could have been among here and six months.
01:05:16
I don't know.
01:05:17
I know the Nuggets, which Lakers plays tomorrow and that's how my day goes.
01:05:21
That's not all I need to worry about.
01:05:23
It's funny like music to my way of like trying to figure out what what month it is because and it's also my my like my just my breather from everything we're so bogged down with the bubble in games every other day.
01:05:35
I'm like, I need just a little bit of e Don't listen to podcast anymore, man.
01:05:38
I listen to music again.
01:05:39
I'm like, out on the podcast listening game E.
01:05:43
Yeah, I've I've been in the podcast lately mostly because I've been doing some of these shows and I'm just like, I wanna listen to other people and, like, listen to podcast stuff and just get better at podcasting.
01:05:52
But and also just like, whatever.
01:05:55
Like, listen to the people that I have on, for example, So but music is I always got to make a little bit of time.
01:06:01
Um, any other things that you gotta plug musically or just writing wise podcast wise? Honestly, I'm gonna I'm gonna shout out the new finish line block because I got some friends who are writing about hip hop over there.
01:06:12
Jason Buford.
01:06:13
Been writing amazing stuff over at finish line.
01:06:15
So go check out at finish line.
01:06:17
You will find some really, really cool stuff.
01:06:19
There was a thick women I anniversary.
01:06:22
There was the I believe it was.
01:06:24
The tribe called West Anniversary one of their albums, but there's a couple of great pieces up there right now.
01:06:30
And I've really enjoyed watching and listening to those and then mile high sports dot com.
01:06:33
You want to read the good stuff in Rocky Mountain Tips podcast? And if you really want my insanity at T.
01:06:37
J McBride MBA on Twitter got great follow.
01:06:40
I would.
01:06:41
I couldn't recommend it. Enough chaos.
01:06:43
Man, You like watching Gary Harris, uh, keep an eye on the man and his man in the ball like little clips? Little small things.
01:06:51
This is the guy for it. T.
01:06:53
J. Thank you so much for coming on. We'll do this soon.
01:06:55
It's always good to see you.
01:06:56
There's a ton of fun, man. Stay safe.
01:06:58
You, too.
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The Denver Nuggets Have Taken the Leap w/ T.J. McBride

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Matt Brooks @MattBrooksNBA

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Yeah, I'm going to preview later today with, um I'm doing that with Dave to four on my podcast and Rocky Mountain hoops.
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And then I was gonna try and write.
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But there's just not enough time between games, man, like I don't have enough hours that exist to put that together at this point, it's frustrating.
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It's kind of hard with like well, especially when we had, like, the gains every other day.
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I was like, I don't know when I can write like this is such a like you and I do film.
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I was just like I need like I need a second.
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I'm like, not sleeping And I'm just I had to pick my points man like I had to find, like the important film, study things to write about and just push away all the extra stuff that I want to Dio just isn't enough time like I haven't gotten a chance to write about Jamal Murray's growth, like Jamal Murray as a player has grown so much, and I haven't been able to put that into a film study yet, and that's like one of the things that, like I have been dying to get Thio and I just can't get there right now and I'll get there eventually.
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Hopefully, he plays well against the Lakers, but we'll see.
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I mean, it may be a good thing because I'm like, maybe it's good that I'm not grabbing Jeremiah Martin back cuts like, maybe I don't need film clips of that.
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Yeah, I'm the guy who hasn't too terrified external.
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That's like pretty much full of useless clips that I will never use again. Totally.
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I just That's what I just throw him on Twitter.
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Every single clip on I'm like, I don't know what to do with this.
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I'm not going to use it.
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But I still have, Like Timothy Liu Abu Kabarole film from Mega Lex on my freaking external hard drive.
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So I'm with you on this 120 Timothy.
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Low Capital E.
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Still believe I still believe in my God. TLC.
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All right.
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Looks like we got some people in here.
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What's up, Nick? Hello, people. Hello.
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Hello.
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My guy Sam is in here.
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Sam will probably be talking a little bit of hip hop at the end of this episode.
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It's kind of heated up, but of course I got my guy T.
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J McBride of Mile High Sports the Rocky Mountain hoops podcast, which, by the way, there was an episode that just went up this week with Matt Moore.
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So good, like so good. It was.
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I think it was my favorite podcast I've heard all month, and I've listened more with preachy.
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He got in on it, man, like he was.
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He was the reverend of that podcast.
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Went off on that one.
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I wanted him to go even mawr on who I I was like, Ready? Hey, was like, I'm gonna say this.
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I'm like, No, don't hey, can't because he hasn't done enough like psychotic research to feel comfortable making those takes.
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Matt needs toe have, like, seven extra hours of film work done before Those takes actually come out to the public.
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So that's that's the Matt Moore.
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What? I actually sit next to Matt Moore like he is directly next to every Nuggets game.
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So, like the insanity of Matt Moore has, like, slowly ingratiated itself into my brain.
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So I whenever I get to talk to with him on podcast, it gets weird.
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E you got it.
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He's I I envy that like the ability to just, like, let off a take and just be like, I'm just saying this right now.
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I'm like, I mean, he's also the guy who got called out for grass by Kevin Durant.
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So, like, Matt Moore has dealt with the crap at this point like this is not new to him, so he doesn't mind nearly.
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He's a vet, man.
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You gotta love it. You gotta love it.
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He's like Paul Millsap out there.
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Oh, man.
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I'm gonna have to start calling him grandpa.
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He's gonna listen to this and hate me, and it's gonna be phenomenal.
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I'm so happy.
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Um, speaking of how did we get here? I just want to know how you and I have connected.
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First off. Congrats.
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You're the first repeat guest on basketball or what? An honor.
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You know the show now, is that what I'm happy about? That that's the niche podcast market.
00:03:25
Alright, we're really taken over here, but no, I mean, I just want to know how we got here because it was one minute 24 seconds remaining.
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The Clippers wives, girlfriends were dancing on the sideline.
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The nuggets were down 17 and now we're previewing a Lakers Siri's that I don't even feel mentally prepared for.
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I'm like, I don't even know what to do with myself celebrating the last series.
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I'm not even a Nuggets fan, so I'm not even know what the Clippers slander yet.
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Like, how do we just move on from that opportunity? E No, but what's the Paul Millsap thing? It's fascinating because the Nuggets were dead in the water and I asked him after I believe it was Game three with him and Marcus Morris got into their scrap and I asked him, I was like, Listen like, there's been moments where you guys have been kind of not pushed around, but you didn't necessarily punch back.
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Is this one of those moments to where you are just, like done? You are not willing to allow yourself to continue to be pumped.
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The technical no longer mattered and you went out there and you made a point, and Paul knows that basically said yes, like, you know, much longer winded, you know, soliloquy way of saying yes.
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But he said that they needed that shot to a degree, and I'm of the mind that if you are relying on a Paul Millsap Marcus Morris senior scrap to be able to win playoff series.
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You're not in a great spot, but clearly something worked from that.
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That gave the Nuggets the edge, the confidence, the swagger to go toe to toe with this Clippers team, despite every every last odd being against them and still find a way to come out on top.
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This Nuggets team knows how to live in this realm.
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This is all that they have done.
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They have been to four straight game sevens now.
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They have been to eight elimination games in four playoff Siri's and to go even further.
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They had a play in Game 82 game to go to the playoffs against the Minnesota Timberwolves the year before.
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And to get there, they had to win 10 of 13 games against 13 playoff opponents to even be in a situation to try to do that back then.
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So this Nuggets team for three years now has been this resilient group.
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I mean, they're the reason we have the seating games like that's it, that's that's the reason this came about.
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So I mean, for that reason alone, I'm like the Nuggets are there up here like we must treat them like they're holy because the not only that, like they belong in this tier of contenders now, where to put them.
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And I was one of them, like I didn't know if they were really at that.
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Clippers, Lakers Bucks level Celtics You know that you know that tier of teams and Denver now, I don't think there is anything you can say that they are not in that group and that that's what this one this win against the Clippers did when Denver played the first round series of sorry a year ago in their playoff series against San Antonio.
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When against Portland, those were the best possible draws in the playoffs.
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There was a lot of a facade there that, like, Yeah, they got to to Game seven in their first playoff debut but like this was the best case scenario for them this year.
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Utah was better than both those that that Blazers team and the San Antonio team from the year prior, and they overcame that and then to actually go up toe to toe with a true title contender.
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The odds on favorite for the majority of people around right now, toe win the title and to do what they did.
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That was the step.
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That was the growth that nobody had seen from this Nuggets team that put a different thought process about how good this group can be into everybody's head.
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So, the Nuggets, I'm laying this out here.
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We're This is gonna be a lot of hot takes. I'm not gonna lie.
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There's a lot of theirs.
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I'm ready. I'm like I'm good at already viewing.
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This is what I dio the way that they play for one another.
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And I'm not talking about in terms of talent, but the way they play for one another and the road they've gotten there, it's a little just a little Golden State fish, Like a little bit.
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No, no, it is.
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This has been a connection people have made for a long time, and I and what it happened when they when they played as well as they did last year, and everybody was like, Okay, this is the like, This is it.
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This is the next team that's gonna be up.
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And then this year was kind of went through the motions a little bit, but just in terms of the disappointing losses that they had kind of similar to Golden State with the Spurs back in the day when they lost.
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But they gave him a hard fought Siri's.
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You had that last year with Portland, and then this year you have this kind of resilient finish, Um, by the Nuggets over, I guess, Utah and the Clippers this year.
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It just kind of feels the same way that the Warriors were down to Memphis down to Oh, and I think that was 2015.
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There's just some like something about it is a little similar.
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I don't know if they're going to reach that peak.
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The math probably says no, but I at least think that there's something here where these guys, they're buying into each other and we're getting to the point where it's like, Okay, like, there's something here.
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I don't know what it is, but it's something supernatural.
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It goes beyond the numbers it goes beyond.
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If you're looking at every player on the top, you know, whatever player list.
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There's just something here and it's a cultural thing and I think it's it's worth noting because it's it's a big deal.
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I think one of the interesting things about it, too, is very few teams or homegrown where they actually keep their guys and they do everything they can to keep them.
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The Warriors were that group.
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Until the TV money change that the TV money doesn't allow them to get Kevin Durant.
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The Warriors would have continued on that exact path that on.
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So with all that being said, the similarity from the Nuggets and the Warriors in that sense is very, very true.
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And it's symbolic of the way that you can develop championship caliber teams.
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If you have the right people in place in your front, off this to be able to draft that way, and the Nuggets have done that.
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And I also think I'm a big believer that the idea of continuity and chemistry could be overblown in the playoffs, like talent wins, you playoff Siri's.
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This Siris was the exact opposite of that because the Clippers were just thrown together eight months ago.
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This was not a group, they looked it.
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And so when you have these kinds of matchups, though, that impact is not as felt because you don't have a team that has literally been together every single one.
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But Jeremy Grant, Michael Porter Jr.
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Essentially for five years like that, isn't a common thread and same coaching, mostly the same coaching staff, the same front office, for the most part, other than promotions to other teams, which is like a congratulations, We'll see you later kind of moment.
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There was never that infighting.
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There was never any kind of drama.
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The culture that they built was allowed to be built upon.
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The foundation was strong, and that's why they're here.
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And it's It is very, very emblematic of what the Warriors were able to do before Kevin Durant, another one.
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I'm gonna make another cop.
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They are a It's interesting because their general makeup is a little bit similar, you know.
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Is Murray the same caliber of a shooter as Steph Curry? No, but it's a guy that can space the floor and a playmaking big.
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Just interestingly enough, I think if you're looking at them on the top players list, it's flipped.
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The guy that's the playmaking big is one of the e mean What is he right now? How many guys are you picking over him? I know you and Matt Moore did this, but I don't I could take I think he's top six.
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Like I think he's top six is right because you talk. LeBron, you talk.
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You honest? You talk Steph Curry, Utah Katie and then I Lillard is the hard one for me.
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Kawhi Leonard the hard one for me e due to Yeah, that would be five for co y eso When you start talking about, I think he's right at that tier.
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Maybe that lower in terms of just because of the difference in how they play.
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Uh, but that's not necessarily, you know, an indictment on Nicola.
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He's just isn't gonna be a guy who's like, Get out of my way.
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But that's not who he is, and that's fine.
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That's good, if you ask me.
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But I do think that he is right there.
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Top six.
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And he could push for top five by the very, very, very soon.
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Like we're talking like three days from now.
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Potentially push top five Good.
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I agree, and I think that the interesting thing is he's probably going neck and neck with the guy that they're about to face in terms of like if we're doing polling position with Anthony Davis because it's basically like, Okay, we know, like if you, if you are seriously having conversations about Embiid first, Yokich like, log off.
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Yes, I agree with like it's not even close.
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Nicola Yokich has not been played off the floor defensively, even against the Jazz, who attacked him in the high pick and roll over and over and over and over and over again.
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He was never eliminated from the game.
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Joy let happen again Like this is not something that is true anymore.
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It's crazy that three years ago, Myles Turner was on the unicorn lift with Nicola like, That's how far we've come in this progression and ascension of Nicola Yokich.
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And it's funny because nothing changed for Nicola.
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Nicola has been Nicola for four years now, and all it's been is he's starting to realize he's a little bit better, but they're playing identically.
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Nothing has changed in terms of how Nicola Yokich plays basketball.
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So that's the funniest part to me is that I don't think Nicola Yokich is any different than he was when he walked in the league three years ago.
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I don't think so, But I do think that there is a sense of like, I mean, he did this last year in a lot of ways, but I think that it's it feels like a slightly different performance, and maybe it's just the guys knowing where Thio pushing back on this.
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They had no supporting cast last year.
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He average numbers on Lee.
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Oscar Robertson had put up in the playoffs last year, and Oscar had to play 43 minutes a night to do so.
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Nicola Yokich did this last year, except this year, he's scoring even Mawr eso.
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It's not necessarily that Nicola Yokich has grown in a playoff setting.
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He was this dominant.
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This has already been foretold and written for something.
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I am not surprised at all.
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This was the one thing I was sure of.
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With the Nuggets in the playoffs, Nicola Yokich has a switch.
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There are like five players in the entire world who could go from.
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I don't care about the regular season in January and flip onto playoff boat and Nicola is one of them.
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We have seen it happen in real time now, so I actually don't think this has been anything different Nicola did. It gets a better opponent.
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That's an important distinction for the team construct.
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But Nicola has been Nicola, and nothing has been different about that.
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I think the one thing and I don't know for something about, like the way that he had and maybe it was just This is probably more of a matchup thing because the Clippers, I mean, there's my product Really, really good, Like really good article on it was it was really good on Hayden article, kind of on the way that they over switch and over help and just, like, don't communicate well.
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And it's like too much finger pointing and all this stuff.
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And I just feel like if you could find an easy, it feels weird to say, because this Clippers team was set up to just be this jugar.
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Not just like sweet, just a sweet team on paper.
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And for whatever reason, you've basically picked the perfect opponent for Nicole Yokich because he's having them see ghosts.
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He looks one.
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I mean, you did a fantastic fantastic breakdown of his Game seven, Um, just talking about the little things.
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It's like the micro movements.
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It's the looking to the corner and then Jew on the one hand pass to the wing.
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It's just like these little things that he's.
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I think he's already had a such a strong control of that and maybe it was just the opponent.
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But that's the thing where I'm like this guy, just like I don't He's infallible.
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Like, How do you stop this? And then the biggest difference this year is that Jamal Murray is on a tear like Jamal Murray was not this Jamal Murray in the playoffs.
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He was getting demolished on defense like he couldn't keep anybody in front of him on offense.
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He was trying to force these terrible mid range looks over and over and over again.
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He was playing in spite of the offense, not within it.
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There was a like the the disconnect from Jamal Murray's first playoffs to now. It's so extreme.
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I don't know what shifted for him, and it all happened at once like he grew in the regular season.
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But it wasn't until he got hurt before the All Star break and sat back and then returned and was like, Oh, wait, I could do all of these things I didn't realize I could do all of these things that he, like, metamorphose ized himself into this player.
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And once he did, And like in that article that you that you mentioned on my life sports dot com Uh, Nicola Yokich.
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He knew that the Clippers wanted to sell out on Jamal Murray.
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They were kind of defending him.
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Kind of like LeBron.
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They were gonna take away his best option to pass Thio and they were going to see if Nicola Yokich could beat them.
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Four on five, going downhill.
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So what they were doing is they were brought up, tho.
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Nicola Yokich would pass the handoff toe.
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Jamal Murray.
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They would send two players to Jamal, usually Hawaiian Marcus Morris.
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Nicola would slip, and then Nicole is playing through four on five by himself against Chicken.
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And that that's a death sentence like that was the biggest.
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Like the clip in that article that got me the most was when Nicola Yokich got to Michael Green stuck between Gary Harris and the corner and Paul Millsap on the wing, and he literally looks to the corner and you see your Michael Green. Just bale.
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He's so terrified of that corner three look, and Nicola Yokich is already reverting back to the wing without taking additional steps.
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Somehow, like I don't know how his slow paced steps that fast basketball.
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But they do, and it's it's magnificent.
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His control, now that he has somebody taking attention away from him on the perimeter, has completely shifted the way that he is able to create.
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He's always had the ability.
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He never had the team behind him that was able to do this in a playoff setting before and now that he has it.
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And now Jeremy grants hitting threes.
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Now Gary Harris is hitting three.
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Now what are you supposed to dio now? You can get backdoor cuts now All of a sudden, Paul, no.
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Stop sneaking up the baseline works.
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And they It's funny how those dominoes start to fall with this Nuggets offense.
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And all of a sudden you're like, Whoa, now they're just unbeatable.
00:16:24
Like all of a sudden, you just can't stop this Nuggets team when they were predictable and slow in the mud before that.
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And it's because they get on these roles and they just doesn't stop.
00:16:34
What if there did you feel like there was this one or two adjustments that really made the difference in those last three games if you had to pick one because it felt like the usage of Murray was different.
00:16:46
But it might have just been that the Clippers started doubling Yokich for no apparent reason.
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I don't think there were some doubles like there was one that was in, like, the nine minute point of the first quarter.
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And we call the Hokage, catches the ball in the post, is looking at Paul George because he is expecting him to double and Paul George like Scripps over about as obvious as you could possibly imagine.
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And Nicoli Okay, throw the perfect dart of the past of the wing gets an open three out of it like you cannot.
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This is one thing.
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That is definitely true that Jeff Van Gundy hit on during the broadcast in the middle of all of his other chaos that he talks about during a broadcast.
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But there was one great point in the middle of it, which was yes, exactly.
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They're gonna have to defend him like LeBron James.
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If he sees the double, you're dead.
00:17:27
Yeah, like you cannot send the double of Nicola Yokich sees it coming or knows it's coming.
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If you bring it from the wing behind him, he still knows it's coming.
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So you have to find a way.
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And the Nuggets done a great job with us against James Harden in the regular season of sending those obscure doubles from strange places from the weak side corner on a good three point shooter.
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When you're like Wait, that doesn't happen.
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And all of a sudden you have to reassess what's happening around you, and the double becomes impactful.
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If you don't do that against Nicola Yokich, you're dead.
00:17:53
It's over, especially when Jamal Murray is playing like this.
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And I think that was the biggest shift.
00:17:58
Is that when Jamal Murray was playing that well, and when Jamal Murray was learning how to use his gravity, it opened up everything for Denver because there were also moments where Jamal Murray would run a d h O and would sprint to Michael Porter Jr side of the floor.
00:18:14
Porter would then clear out from the corner, cut baseline and usually drag his defender and a help defender with him because he's such a big target as a cutter at the rim.
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Then all of a sudden you're playing three on two basketball on the weak side, and Jamal Murray has a ton of room to work with.
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So then he can manipulate.
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Then he has this space to be able to run a pick, a side pick and roll, create an advantage, kicked to a shooter, get to the rim, find the cutter, and he's done that.
00:18:38
So the diversification of the Nuggets offense with Jamal Murray being this good as a creator is what I think really shifted their offensive game plan in those last three games.
00:18:47
I also feel like they took the ball out of his hands a little bit and, like, ran him off the baseline, gave him that side pick and roll situations like I don't Do you think that's more of a Murray thing? Or do you think that's that's all Malone like trying to be? It's both.
00:18:57
It's both.
00:18:58
Jamal Murray is a fantastic screener for his position.
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He's probably the best point guard screener that guarded pick and roll that they even more so they ran it.
00:19:05
They ran a like variant of a C corner action.
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This might get a little bit too high frequency for everybody.
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Let's do it s o.
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They had Gary Harris in the corner.
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They have Jamal Murray comes set a screen on Gary Harris Guy s.
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So this is all off ball action.
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Then Gary Harris just reassess its and he just sets a different angled screen behind Murray, which then flares Murray into a staggered screen with Nicola on the wing as he gets a pass from Paul Mills at the top of the key for a wide open three pointer.
00:19:33
Those are the kind of those are sets, but the read and react sets those were all made on the fly.
00:19:40
And the fact that the Nuggets have already been able to develop this chemistry with each other, that they could run three separate screening actions without a ball and have exactly Oh my God, they will be running into each other like it would be chaos.
00:19:52
But like those are the small micro decisions that shifted the way that the Nuggets were able to get Jamal Murray open and the fact that they were just screening better to like in the first couple games.
00:20:01
They weren't screening with same physicality.
00:20:03
That was another big impact of the Siri's.
00:20:05
But getting that off ball movement in those staggered screens to get Jamal Murray moving downhill with speed while he's catching the ball changed everything for him.
00:20:13
Yeah, I thought it was interesting, like it just felt like it's These things were so hard, because again, it's like a It's again.
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It's just it was a weirdly supernatural serious.
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I'm like I can't tell if it's like the comfortable ity like It just felt like a They came in tired like they came in, tired to that serious, But it was also like, you know, the Clippers.
00:20:33
What they Last time they played each other.
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The Clippers.
00:20:36
It was in the bubble.
00:20:37
So it was a very throw out game because ball ball started a small forward out to Kyle Kuzma when you had that, even if Jesus was closing out.
00:20:44
Quote after the game.
00:20:45
Last God, Kuzma.
00:20:47
It's Bull Bull who's played 12 minutes in his NBA career and you're talking about Jesus closing out to you, but so I mean, e don't know.
00:20:55
It was a very interesting Siris in that there's so many things like a much as you can play like the everything went wrong for the Clippers, it really felt like every part of Denver clicked.
00:21:06
It was like this perfect.
00:21:07
Um, all, you know, amalgamation of things coming together.
00:21:10
And it was like both sides because every single both of the stars and the Clippers came up short, their role players came up short.
00:21:16
Doc Rivers came up short.
00:21:18
It was like this complete and total collapse while meanwhile, you have the entire Nuggets team just coming together.
00:21:24
Millsap comes alive after a pretty slow postseason.
00:21:27
Um, you know, Yokich is just the control of the game in Game seven was like, That was top 10 passing game ever, potentially, totally like that game I've ever watched.
00:21:36
I was what was going on.
00:21:38
I was like, This is absolutely ridiculous because you look at the players that are on that court.
00:21:41
It's like eyes.
00:21:44
This guy, like one of the three best looking I'm like, what is going on like this is amazing.
00:21:49
That and they tried everything.
00:21:50
It was Harold.
00:21:51
It was Ooh, box. It was quiet.
00:21:52
Was Paul George? They didn't put Beverly on him in the post at one point to try and pester him and send doubles like nothing work.
00:21:57
It didn't matter.
00:21:58
It was It was it was surgical to play to play, a little reference to good term.
00:22:03
Is it what I was really feeling? I was like, I love the the symbolism in this article e thought that the whole time watching it is like this, just like excising out whatever he wanted from this Clippers team is he went.
00:22:14
But one thing that I want to say that this is ah ha take.
00:22:17
All right, What if the Denver Nuggets or just the better team? I don't take? No, the Clippers air Incredible look like you have lost like this is the thing that Game one Nuggets were just demolished like they had nothing in the tank, which is like, I'll throw that game away.
00:22:33
Denver should have won Game three.
00:22:35
Denver outplayed them for three and three quarters quarters.
00:22:38
In that game, they handled the Clippers, and then they had another close laws.
00:22:42
I believe in Game four.
00:22:43
So when you put that together that the Clippers were able to escape on just arbitrary randomness, Denver outplayed them in five of these games, like they they should have on this Siri's and six.
00:22:57
That's crazy.
00:23:00
Yeah, it was.
00:23:02
It was.
00:23:03
It's been an interesting playoffs, like just like every little thing, everything that it just felt like basketball was getting a little baseball like a little, too MLB is got people resting.
00:23:14
You know, there's there's that we're playing the and I like. Look, I love numbers.
00:23:18
I love them a lot, but it's nice to have a little bit of these old school things, these theologies that are thrown around about chemistry, about playing hard for one another, that I feel like you've really gotten a new bit of air to them, like there's a new bit of wind in the sails to a lot of these things that we've kind of grown up with, like pre numbers there.
00:23:36
Well, the contrast has gone so far the other direction, right? Like maybe that's why there's more validity to this chemistry argument, and that was because they're left.
00:23:43
They're all balanced, like their balance rosters.
00:23:46
It's like these, like you have like your glue guys, your shooters.
00:23:50
Every team has.
00:23:51
I mean, let's be honest.
00:23:52
Every team has a center that's like either top 30 or just really good and or a power forward or something like that because Davis ain't no center.
00:24:03
I'm out on this.
00:24:04
I'm done.
00:24:05
I don't wanna hear it like he's not a **** center.
00:24:08
It's the key to the Syria.
00:24:09
Are you just saying that because you want you could see the best center? No.
00:24:12
No, because, like, I'm not even a nugget stand.
00:24:14
I'm a big, big things group.
00:24:16
But, like my thing with Anna Davis is like that Dude won't play center.
00:24:20
They're gonna play Javale McGee and Dwight Howard on the Siris eight ton.
00:24:23
They're probably going to get a combined, like 36 minutes and center play on this per game.
00:24:27
I would not.
00:24:28
I think we're only going to get the eight minute closing stretch with Anthony Davis at center.
00:24:32
I don't think we're going to see it otherwise, because Anthony Davis doesn't want to do it.
00:24:36
He refuses to do it and then you have Vogel coming out already, saying that they're going to go back to their centers and that's gonna be a win for Denver.
00:24:45
Denver is like a minus 18.
00:24:46
6 net rating with just Anthony is on the floor with no other centers there like a plus.
00:24:51
Yeah, it's something like out of this world.
00:24:54
It's like it doesn't matter.
00:24:56
I'm going to demolish you every time down the court kind of thing.
00:24:59
And it kind of feels like that's the situation where you have, like, you know, just Yokich finding like it just seems like he's gonna They're not gonna double them.
00:25:07
They after what he just did to the Clippers.
00:25:10
I do not think the Lakers try and double them.
00:25:12
They're gonna be physical with him with the high post.
00:25:14
They're going to try and keep him out of the low post with everything they have, which is why they're gonna play their centers and they're gonna try and bait him into foul trouble.
00:25:20
They're gonna try and get him frustrated, and they're going to see if that works for them.
00:25:23
I don't think they'll double like this.
00:25:25
I would hope not because it's e couldn't believe it was happening in a Game seven.
00:25:29
It was like it was the one adjustment.
00:25:31
I was like Why? Like the first time I thought I was like, That was weird.
00:25:34
Don't know why they did that and then it was like, Okay, it's actually gonna happen every time he touches the ball, which just seems like, like of all like, it's just like, I don't know, man, who's like this is basically they were doubling while the past two Yokich was in the air.
00:25:47
He hadn't even caught the **** ball yet.
00:25:49
And they were like, No, get there, Get there.
00:25:51
Now you see over the top of everybody, like I just I don't know.
00:25:55
That's the double with Marcus.
00:25:57
Moore is at 68 Doesn't do ****.
00:25:59
Oh, sorry. I didn't mean to cut.
00:26:01
I'm sorry, but like that doesn't do anything like congratulations.
00:26:05
You brought a 68 to to get the 71 center.
00:26:07
Okay, Like, what are we doing here? I know and like, it's like, Dude, yoga doesn't take that like he's not gonna like.
00:26:14
He's just he's unfazed.
00:26:15
He's just I don't know.
00:26:17
I just I couldn't believe it.
00:26:18
Um, let's talk a little bit about this Laker.
00:26:20
Siri's a couple of things I think are really important.
00:26:24
Yokich is number is not great against the Lakers this year.
00:26:27
I believe he's 8% lower and these air really small samples.
00:26:31
That might totally mean nothing, but I didn't care about the regular season.
00:26:35
I'm gonna be very clear.
00:26:36
You play that like 72% capacity this regular season, like it was very reminiscent of LeBron James being like I'm playing defense right now.
00:26:44
I don't worry about the playoffs when I get there.
00:26:46
It was very reminiscent of that.
00:26:48
So No, I kind I Even with the Clippers series, I threw it out.
00:26:51
I was e don't care that they lost by 27 of them at one point in, like January.
00:26:55
I just don't care, because, like this Nuggets team in the playoffs was an entirely different beast.
00:26:59
Let's talk about Murray, Then who is another guy who is rising? I'm like, I don't know where to put him on.
00:27:06
This is gonna be fascinating.
00:27:09
I don't I think this is a There's a chance.
00:27:12
He has a really good Now.
00:27:13
Here's the thing is that the Lakers are are much more shrewd at doubling and trapping and doing all these things and forcing the ball out of his hands.
00:27:22
Fine, um, they have a better player that Nuggets Dio who if if that's his, his safety valves.
00:27:30
Nicole Yokich And they're in a, you know, a doubling trapping situation.
00:27:34
I I don't know.
00:27:36
I like this match up a lot more than I thought I would.
00:27:38
Honestly.
00:27:39
Well, I mean Danny Green compared to Kawhi Leonard.
00:27:41
Like I love Danny Green.
00:27:42
I adore Danny Green.
00:27:43
And what he brings to about Ideo I will die on Danny Green Hill.
00:27:46
I don't care if he's 43 years old, so why, like I will die on Danny Green Hill.
00:27:51
This is he's not Kawhi Leonard, Paul George Like, that's the biggest difference.
00:27:55
Tomorrow he's gonna have He's not walking and be like, holy crap in all this room, like people are just mugging me at the point of attack anymore.
00:28:02
I'm not getting picked up 94 ft like this is fantastic.
00:28:05
So I don't think that I think Jamal don't have a huge Siri's.
00:28:08
This is gonna be like Nicole is gonna play great.
00:28:10
Jamal is gonna be the X factor, Which is weird to say about your second best player in a playoff series.
00:28:14
But that is kind of my thinking so far.
00:28:17
Which, to be fair, I'm still trying to get myself acclimated with the syriza's.
00:28:22
Well, I haven't.
00:28:23
I mean, it was good to talk like prepare for this this morning because I was like, I need to, like, think about this series.
00:28:28
I I just haven't put any thought.
00:28:30
I've just been, like, sitting here, like, you know, What is it? Is Wal Murray like a top 30 player right now? The top 20.
00:28:37
Is he a top five point guard right now? That's the question.
00:28:40
I have a tough time answer.
00:28:41
That's the one that I find very interesting, because I mean, you have Steph, you got Harden and Luca.
00:28:46
If you put them there, which I do for fun.
00:28:51
Okay. Okay. Let's talk about you got Steph Curry.
00:28:53
Damian Lillard, Um, maybe three from their CP three right now, I would say, but it's it's it's still a confident, but I would say yes.
00:29:02
Donovan Mitchell.
00:29:04
Donovan Mitchell is actually getting like he's like, I think that's his position of the future.
00:29:09
Is playing like Murray is playing like Murray.
00:29:12
Yeah, like it just like Okay, well, that gives Murray the edge in this conversation.
00:29:15
Pretty pretty substantially then.
00:29:16
Plus, the three point shooting that Murray has is much more sustainable than Donovan Mitchell.
00:29:20
I agree.
00:29:21
I thought he was a look like, You know, I don't know if that's going to translate over time, but I mean, Mitchell's really good, like So, like you're talking 5 to 7 range in terms of point guard ranking for Jamal Murray, and I would have laughed you out of the room like I was.
00:29:34
The guy who was like Mike Conley is better than him to start the season and like that's out of the question now, Like Jamal has grown that much, maybe he'll be in. Also.
00:29:41
Do you think it could be an All Star in the West? Yeah, that's it's hard, but he's making real arguments that he has the ability to do it.
00:29:49
Yeah, I think it will come down to I mean, you have to Whatever.
00:29:53
Yeah, Portland, what happens? Important.
00:29:56
And I Honestly, the Warriors, I'm like, really curious to see what they look like.
00:30:00
Um, it's just I don't know what that's gonna be like after what, Almost two years.
00:30:06
Then again, I mean the team I cover one of the guys doesn't play two years either.
00:30:11
So I haven't talked about Kyrie either.
00:30:13
Yeah, Yeah.
00:30:15
So I'm gonna catch some heat for that.
00:30:19
You know what? I would put it on.
00:30:21
Put this out there.
00:30:22
I'm taking I absolutely taking Jamal Murray of our Kyrie right now.
00:30:26
I can't Don't even think you think you can think about it.
00:30:29
You could do your thing. This is all me.
00:30:31
This is Kyrie.
00:30:32
T J.
00:30:33
McBride is here, and I'm the one talking, but I'm taking Jamal Murray over Kyrie Irving right now.
00:30:37
His leap feels legit.
00:30:40
And he's got the same Kyrie thing where it's like I just, like, trust you in a lot of ways.
00:30:44
Like, and it's like I think that's just so hard to teach where it's just like I'm just that three he hit and again, whatever, They're up 20.
00:30:51
I don't care.
00:30:52
Well, that was the dagger, though.
00:30:53
Like, this is great.
00:30:55
He did that on CO y Leonard.
00:30:58
That's the part people keep forgetting is that he just sprinted around Hawaii and rose up like I He's incredible.
00:31:04
He really is.
00:31:05
Is again another thing that you just like, you know, there's all this, like stuff about Oh, clutch stats are just all noise and all this stuff I'm like I agree, but also like there's just certain things again.
00:31:17
It's It's like they're just supernatural.
00:31:19
It's the super.
00:31:20
Denver Nuggets have been a top three clutch team for four straight years, and they have been number one for the past two.
00:31:24
And they have been number one in the playoffs in the past two years.
00:31:28
Maybe there's something to this may be the really, really e I.
00:31:33
Also by that, Nicola Yokich is one of the best clutch players that basketball is seen in a really, really, really long time.
00:31:38
That's one thing that's overlooked because his game winners look so awful that you don't expect them to ever go in.
00:31:43
But, like Nicole, Yokich has Mawr baskets made in the final 30 seconds of a game toe, either win or to tie than any other player in basketball in past two years.
00:31:52
There you go.
00:31:53
That's the one right there.
00:31:54
That's the I'm cutting that out and we're sharing that tomorrow.
00:31:57
That's what this is gonna be that will be all you need to know.
00:32:00
Uh, yeah, I, uh I don't know.
00:32:04
I don't I think I think Murray's top.
00:32:06
I have to make my top player list.
00:32:08
I try to do it at the end of every regular season, every postseason.
00:32:11
Better you than me.
00:32:12
I want no part of those ranking list. So congratulations.
00:32:15
I love I love getting just ended.
00:32:18
I had somebody in my or mentions the other week about my Middleton or I had Middleton was like, Wait, where did you have Middleton? I had 21.
00:32:27
Believe that's fine.
00:32:28
There's nothing wrong with it.
00:32:30
Yeah, it was.
00:32:31
I was like, I'm not gonna go super high on him.
00:32:32
I It's funny.
00:32:33
I actually think Jordan, I love I think Paul, George and Middleton are closer than then.
00:32:39
People are typically gonna think I was just like eso, but yeah, I mean, Murray's legit, and I want to see it this serious.
00:32:47
I think he's gonna have a big Syria's.
00:32:49
The one that's like really interesting for me is how to the nuggets stop the Lakers not stop.
00:32:55
Put a little didn't in the Lakers pick and roll.
00:32:58
I just I don't know.
00:33:00
I have no idea.
00:33:03
I don't know who the guy is gonna be like.
00:33:05
Well, they're going to start Jeremy grants and defend LEBRON with him.
00:33:08
That is goingto happen.
00:33:10
Um, if they started matchup e.
00:33:13
I mean, of the of the available options.
00:33:16
Yes, there's not a whole lot of guys Grant was off stood.
00:33:20
I give him a Tanaka who I had some big games, but he's also co y letter.
00:33:24
So, like I'm not really concerned about that.
00:33:26
Everything was difficult for co.
00:33:27
I agree.
00:33:28
Nothing was easy and Jeremy grants length and physicality was a serious factor.
00:33:33
And even more than that, going back when he was on Oklahoma City and they played the Spurs last year, guess who was the guy checking Kawhi Leonard the whole time it was Jeremy Grant.
00:33:41
This is not new to him.
00:33:42
So I think Jeremy Grant is gonna end up defending LeBron James is gonna take a whole team to defend LeBron, of course, but you're starting.
00:33:49
Their Nicola will be on whatever center is on the court.
00:33:53
And then you put Paul Millsap on Anthony Davis.
00:33:55
That's the way that I see this plane now.
00:33:57
Guards. I don't care.
00:33:58
Gary Harris, Jamal Murray, switch everything.
00:34:00
I really don't care.
00:34:01
But when it comes to download, I think you have to put Paul Millsap on Anthony Davis.
00:34:05
Not Jeremy Grant because I don't think Paul can stick with LeBron James.
00:34:08
I also think like he's I mean, Millsap that he's declined in certain ways.
00:34:12
His hands are still a fast as ever, so if you try to get him in there to just, like, get a little bit of post position.
00:34:17
Also, Paul Millsap got a lot of flak from the Jazz Siri's, but that he was put in an impossible situation.
00:34:22
He was asked to rotate to Rudy Gobert, rolling to the rim and then somehow get all the way out to the corner where Joe Ingles is relocating to the wing.
00:34:30
Like Paul Millsap was put in an unwinnable situation in that jazz Siri's.
00:34:33
He was so much better in that Clippers Siri's.
00:34:37
So I think that the demise of Paul Millsap has been far too early.
00:34:41
I think we're going to see a very good Paul Millsap Siris in this Laker Siri's.
00:34:45
Do you think it comes back? Are you guys what's your? I think so only because there's no money out there so like you're going to get a guy like that on on the taxpayer mid level, like, I really think that that's kind of the outcome that we're looking at and also what's up? What was Denver? He loves the guys.
00:34:59
He loves the coach. He loves the organization.
00:35:01
And he believes this is a group you can win with.
00:35:03
And it's the kind of group he wants to win with.
00:35:05
Last year, in exit interviews, he said, like I could go to the Warriors.
00:35:08
The Warriors would want me.
00:35:09
Like who? That makes a lot of sense on paper because I wanna be here like, this is the way I wanna win.
00:35:14
I've been overlooked my whole life.
00:35:16
I would rather win with an overlooked team that you just run to the title contender.
00:35:20
I just had to do the temperature check.
00:35:21
I'm gonna do it every time I'm here for man s o Millsap is gonna be the guy for this pick and roll scenario.
00:35:31
So what other things can they dio against the Lakers? And I don't know how much you thought about this, because again, we're still writing this, uh, the nuggets or the next warriors.
00:35:40
Nicole, I'm all writing this, but I want to sort of think through this right now and think about other things.
00:35:46
I could Dio this is gonna sound crazy, but they need to find a way to get Anthony Davis switched onto onto Nicole Yokich.
00:35:53
They have to do this because if you can get a d on Yokich is back, you could be physical with him.
00:35:58
You compound him, you could get him in foul trouble.
00:36:00
Yokich does a phenomenal job, uh, catching non shooting fouls just in his post move there so obscure and arbitrary that you don't know where.
00:36:09
Yeah, so they don't know where they're coming from and guys end up fouling him as he gets into his post moves.
00:36:13
I think getting Paul Millsap Nicola Yokich 45 d a chose to get the switch and then attack Anthony Davis and pull him out of the paint is the best way that Denver is going to be able to create a sustainable offense.
00:36:25
If you let Anthony Davis to sit in the dunker spot with Paul Millsap and you let him rotate over from the weak side, just destroy everything at the rim, you're done.
00:36:34
So I think that Denver has to find a way to get that switch if he's not already defending him, pop out and get him out of the paint or shoot threes and then destroy them at the rim because it's the only way you're pulling them out defensively.
00:36:47
Is there anything I could be? Oh, just bleed into this.
00:36:50
I think that you're gonna be relying on Palm.
00:36:52
They'll have a whole lot weak side on the weak side defensively, just rotating over and helping out.
00:36:56
Because, like Nicola Yokich, as much as I think that he has grown a ton, he struggles with a lob.
00:37:02
That has been the biggest difficulty he's had in his MBA career.
00:37:05
On the defensive end of the floor on LeBron James knows that, and he is going to just run, pick and roll with Anthony Davis until the sun dies, because why else would you do anything else? So that's what I'm looking at.
00:37:15
I'm expecting ah lot of that, which is going to require Paul Millsap absolutely selling out from the weak side to get their Denver's second line defense of rotating The three point shooters is going to have to be perfect for this to work, but that's what they've been doing.
00:37:29
They've been playing with fire for to Siri's now here they are.
00:37:32
So maybe there's something to it.
00:37:34
Three games in who is not gonna be in the rotation from both sides.
00:37:37
Who do you think that's played out? I think torrent.
00:37:40
Um, I would lean towards Tory Craig, I think.
00:37:45
But I don't know.
00:37:46
I actually you know what I did.
00:37:47
I gonna want to defend Kuzma with him off the bench.
00:37:50
Yeah, I also think you need as many, like just guys that have a little bit of size to that.
00:37:55
But at the same time, like Tory, Craig has not helped their defense when he's been on the floor because he's not as good at defending.
00:38:01
Oh, he's not as good defending Big Wings.
00:38:02
He's good at defending guards as a wing.
00:38:04
He's not as good at defending the Kawhi Leonard as he is defending the C J. McCollum of the world.
00:38:09
So that is a hard thing for when he hasn't been able to give you anything offensively.
00:38:12
Like you might get a three here or a backdoor cut, their nothing sustainable nothing that you could be like.
00:38:17
He has to be defended now, so I want to say Tory Craig, Michael Malone has never gone away from him.
00:38:23
So, like, that's me saying that.
00:38:25
Not Michael Malone hat on saying that.
00:38:27
But I do think that you're going to see all of the same 98 guys play in the Siri's.
00:38:33
And that is what I'm expecting from the Lakers side of things, though, Um, I wonder how much Rajon Rondo will be able to continue to play if Jamal Murray is just running him through screens? Mm, I don't know.
00:38:45
I think that what the Lakers are gonna try and do is they're gonna be, like, all right anymore.
00:38:48
Size and length and defensive pressure on Jamal Murray.
00:38:50
Let's put Raj on out there and there's there's they're gonna running the staggered screens sets and just running through three different screens and see if you can keep up, and I'm not sure if he'll be able to.
00:38:58
We'll have to wait and see.
00:38:59
But if he doesn't hit threes and you can't defend Murray, then there's not a great role for Russia on right there.
00:39:04
Yeah, he's interesting.
00:39:06
I feel like it's funny, like it's it's these two.
00:39:09
It's him and Millsap.
00:39:10
They could like, kind of swing the Siris for their respective teams.
00:39:14
very.
00:39:15
It's odd, right? Like I mean, it is.
00:39:17
It is like, you know, like the Lakers have no creation.
00:39:19
So, like the only other creator on the roster is Rondo.
00:39:23
So, like they need to be able to get some kind of ability to reverse the court like Denver got killed by that and the first Siri's against Utah because they hadn't like once they trap Jamal, he was like, Okay, where do I go? There's nobody ever decide who could dribble the basketball, so this isn't working very well, and I think that the Lakers might run into that if Rondo doesn't play well.
00:39:40
So I think Rondo playing badly is the most important thing for the Nuggets.
00:39:43
But if he plays well, it might be the death of them.
00:39:47
Are those your X factors? I, I don't think they would.
00:39:50
I would put Michael Porter Jr is the X factor.
00:39:53
I I want to say Jamal Murray, but he's the second best player, so that's like unbelievable amounts of cheating.
00:39:57
So I'm gonna go with Michael Porter Jr on that one.
00:39:59
Just because toe have an explosive score off the bench against the bench that doesn't score a whole lot for the Lakers.
00:40:04
Like who's gonna have his nights? But you're not gonna be like, Oh, they're going to score 29 tonight Like that's not something you expect from the Lakers bench.
00:40:11
So I think Michael Porter could be impactful, and I also think his size could be helpful.
00:40:15
Michael Porter Jr has shown that he can wrote it over from the weak side and disrupt things.
00:40:18
So maybe Michael Porter Jr plays more minutes than I anticipated.
00:40:21
Will play? I don't think so, Expert LeBron James.
00:40:24
I'm like rookie rookie, Go get home like immediately, But we'll have to wait and see.
00:40:29
I will.
00:40:30
Barton would be mine.
00:40:31
I don't know.
00:40:32
I don't know if he's gonna be Nobody does.
00:40:35
It makes you feel any better.
00:40:36
Nobody knows.
00:40:37
Like I have been digging and digging and digging and digging.
00:40:39
I probably hit up like seven sources trying to figure out.
00:40:42
And where Will Barton is that including people close toe? Will Barton and I.
00:40:46
I don't know.
00:40:47
So it's going to be one of those things we will.
00:40:49
Barton is not going to release information until he knows you'll come back because it's very disadvantageous That might not be a word, but I think it sounds good.
00:40:58
This advantageous was definitely just created in my brain, but you haven't slept in days.
00:41:05
But if well, Martin does come back, that shifts.
00:41:09
Ah, whole lot for the Nuggets, not even on the court.
00:41:12
Emotionally real.
00:41:13
Barton's the emotional leader of this team.
00:41:16
The fact that they have done this without him is very impressive to everybody in the Nuggets circle, because people don't see it outside of it and that they shouldn't have to.
00:41:24
It's very, um, you have to be very close to this group to see how important Will Barton is off the court, but for the fact that they've been able to battle back and be this resilient without that guy in the locker room has been really incredible, getting him back for a Siris of the magnitude of the Lakers.
00:41:38
Regardless of what it was in, the court is going to help.
00:41:41
And again, he's that other creator.
00:41:42
You could just throw him out there on the bench with Monte Morris, and suddenly you have two guys who can create on either side of the floor, and that's huge to be able to attack different defense, and it helps in the non because another, a big key and a kind of similar to the last year They did this with a Salmon Ali and we were going over the Houston, the Lakers matchup just being like Okay, so who's gonna win the non harden, non LeBron minutes? I feel like you kind of run into that a little bit in this series, and I think he's a big swing factor in that.
00:42:08
If he's out there when you're not playing with Yokich as much for sure, and then who's most? The other guy for the Lakers, like who's my has to be great off the bench like he just has to be.
00:42:17
You know what? My X factor is a weird one.
00:42:19
I think it's working.
00:42:20
Morris Morris was like hitting three.
00:42:23
It was a big thing.
00:42:24
It allowed them to play idiot that there is nothing better for opposing teams than when Marcus or Mark Keith Morris making shots in Game one.
00:42:31
That is like the suddenly the Morris Twins become the second best player on the Nuggets because they're just like obliterating every good opportunity for the lake.
00:42:39
The thing is, though, they got enough good games from Markieff Morris.
00:42:42
I don't think it's sustainable.
00:42:43
I don't like the Morris, but I don't think anybody e don't know anybody who's like you wanna fish and offense.
00:42:47
You'll get a Morris brother like That's not a thing you dio.
00:42:50
But if it continues, I don't really know what it does because it gives you a little bit of it was like a huge thing.
00:42:55
I was like, Oh my God, I stretch for like, this is so weird to see out there I kind of feel like it is.
00:43:00
It's also a huge X factor for the Nuggets.
00:43:03
He's shooting the volatile because, like Marcus Morris in the Clippers, Siris was.
00:43:10
He killed them in Game one.
00:43:11
Like Denver was just ruined because Marcus Morris hit shots and then Marcus Morris did nothing like he talked a lot of shots, None of them went in and it was very advantageous for the Nuggets.
00:43:21
So I don't know you hate it.
00:43:23
I hate it's like the Stanley Johnson of veterans for me, like I just I hate guys like they just don't give me anything that I like in a basketball team nothing about the people honestly don't like the people very much what they do on the court.
00:43:36
But regardless of that, like there's a Bush League fouled by Marcus Morris from the Game seven of the Clippers.
00:43:42
Game down 18 in the fourth quarter of Game seven.
00:43:45
Like I hate that stuff.
00:43:47
Hate it.
00:43:48
Bush league, but maybe and honestly, he could be.
00:43:50
If he does sustainably hit shots, Denver might be doomed.
00:43:54
Like if you could suddenly rely on on Markieff Morris just killing Denver, then that's very difficult to overcome.
00:44:00
You would need Michael Porter's You need to play well at that point.
00:44:04
Speaking of Michael Porter Jr and all the players named Let's Go through top seven players.
00:44:11
We could even go to 10 because you were on both teams.
00:44:14
If we're just ranking way go LeBron, I think the start This is okay, that's interesting.
00:44:20
So then you immediately go to go to Nicola.
00:44:22
I put Nicole over Davis.
00:44:24
I okay with that doesn't bother me.
00:44:26
You think he impacts winning more than Davis does. I will.
00:44:29
I'm also of the mind that like Kool A.
00:44:31
D had 33 22 rebounds, forest system was a minus 14.
00:44:34
I don't believe in.
00:44:36
And the Davis as much as some people dio So I would say it's probably LeBron Yokich Davis Murray? Yep.
00:44:43
And then things get very, very subjective.
00:44:48
Um, I'm gonna take Jeremy Grant. Next.
00:44:51
I was gonna say Grant and I might Gary Harris next.
00:44:54
I'm not willing, Thio.
00:44:56
I'm the biggest.
00:44:57
I might be the only nuggets media member still like proudly on Gary Harris Island because I'm not leaving, but I'm not putting on that high on this.
00:45:05
Still e think I would put Paul Millsap higher than him on this? Um, just because you're like Gary Harris being deployed on Danny Green isn't necessarily going to shift anything for Denver.
00:45:18
You know, like his defense isn't gonna like.
00:45:20
Magnificently shift.
00:45:21
This Siri's Paul Millsap was a weak side.
00:45:23
Rotator is gonna be so much more important than Gary Harris is perimeter defense.
00:45:27
And that's not an indictment on Murray are on Harris.
00:45:29
It is 100% just the matchup.
00:45:31
So I would probably put Millsap hire him, But then I don't know where to go from there.
00:45:38
Who would you have next? I still want to. I don't know.
00:45:43
I mean, who's the third best player for the Lakers, Right? Is it Wando? Has it been Rondo? It has, Right? That's the terrifying.
00:45:49
It hasn't been done.
00:45:51
It like a honestly, in this Siri's.
00:45:54
It's probably Dana Green because he's probably the one checking Jamal Murray, right? Oh, I just like I haven't seen anything.
00:46:00
Anything good from day greedy and I really don't know.
00:46:04
I just like I think historically, I wanna look at Danny Green, but like, yeah, he's probably gonna be the third best player.
00:46:09
I kind of thought that when he signed there last year, I he's lost a step or two, and I think it's a really bad matchup.
00:46:15
I think there's gonna be a lot of times where it's like, Oh, wow, like, you know, Danny Green is like 15 ft by player, a high screen or whatever.
00:46:23
I'm just like or a dribble handoff, and he just doesn't know how to get around it.
00:46:26
Um, so I guess the important person Yeah, and I would say KCP greener Rondo.
00:46:34
Whoever defends Murray the most is probably the next most important person of syriza.
00:46:37
E also should maybe throw out.
00:46:40
So I was just about to say Caruso is the kind of guard to give Denver just fits like guys who are physical guys who were unrelenting like Patrick.
00:46:50
Beverley has killed the Nuggets doing this for a long time, and Alice Caruso has similar, not the I'm not gonna get there.
00:46:57
He's very much so physical and pesty like that, and you can give you something offensively and he's a better creator.
00:47:04
So I do think you have something there when it comes to Alex Alex Caruso.
00:47:08
I just don't know.
00:47:09
Like I'm looking at this bench unit right now for the for the for the Lakers, who is? They're big because you're talking about just playing Kuzma at backup center.
00:47:18
Unless you're playing McGee, which hasn't played a whole lot.
00:47:22
Yep, and and Howard has been just like he's not a disaster.
00:47:25
He played 4.
00:47:26
5 minutes left in their last game.
00:47:28
It was like it's it's done.
00:47:29
The Howard thing is, it's done.
00:47:30
Yeah, so which is which is big for Denver.
00:47:33
Oh, by the way, I would so much rather Nicola, you could just make JaVale McGee look ridiculously stupid than have to deal with the physicality of Dwight Howard.
00:47:40
That's that's a win for Denver.
00:47:41
Um, so I do wonder if javale McGee gets on this list pretty quickly.
00:47:46
Would you have him? Or so we have LeBron Nicole Yokich a D Murray.
00:47:50
Grant Millsap.
00:47:51
Are we going? Rondo Caruso, We're gonna sneak Gary Harrison there.
00:47:54
Are we gonna your call? I am cool with consensus, which is just you at this point.
00:47:59
So I would probably say, Caruso, I'm gonna put I think you have to put Caruso in Rondo because they're going to guard murder.
00:48:07
And I think that you put Gary Harris in there because, I mean, who's Gary Harris? That that's my point.
00:48:11
He's not going anybody.
00:48:12
He's guarded KCP or Danny Green, which isn't gonna be that impactful for U.
00:48:16
S.
00:48:18
O.
00:48:19
Although this is one thing that they did against Houston in the regular season, they would put Gary Harris on Daniel House or Eric Gordon.
00:48:23
They'd be like we're going to send were doubles at you.
00:48:25
That's that's what I was thinking is you have him kind of.
00:48:27
You kind of have him help off a little bit, especially.
00:48:29
I need to go back and dig up the film study I did from that Rockets game because Gary Harris is defense in that.
00:48:34
In that game, it was like I actually asked Michael Malone afterwards, Like, Was there any kind of like plan at all these double supposed to get there? And they and they said literally, We gave Gary Harris all of the freedom on when to double and where to double from.
00:48:48
And because of that, nobody knew and nobody knew when and nobody knew from where, and nobody knew which direction.
00:48:53
Nobody knew at what time.
00:48:55
And it was so difficult to quantify for the opposing offense that it threw everything into chaos.
00:49:00
So maybe if you do have him on KCP or you do have him on Danny Green, maybe he is more important because of what he could do on a guy like LeBron James with the ball in his hands in the pick and roll.
00:49:09
Yeah, I think that's an interesting idea.
00:49:12
A little bit.
00:49:13
I also would be very careful of that, because it's LeBron is gonna It's LeBron James.
00:49:17
Yeah, it's not an all out double.
00:49:20
I wanna make this very It was a swipe.
00:49:23
Get your body in recover double and that's very different than what, like the Clippers were do wonders.
00:49:28
They they were basically like it was like playing fall guys and diving over the barriers what they were doing and that like it was awful.
00:49:36
So, like, I'm not saying double like that.
00:49:38
I'm saying that they need to be able to give him pressure from guys who aren't the initiating defender.
00:49:44
And I think Gary Harris could do a really good job of that.
00:49:48
Yeah, I think I think he's.
00:49:50
It'll be tricky.
00:49:52
I mean, the threes, they're gonna be huge for him.
00:49:53
Like e.
00:49:54
I feel like we've said every single time.
00:49:56
Yes, that's the Gary Harris U S.
00:49:59
Oh, that'll be big for him.
00:50:00
It's weird.
00:50:01
I almost wonder if his offensive production is gonna like Is it going to be more important than his defensive production? I don't know, but it's definitely one of the big keys for them.
00:50:09
They need to make their threes against this.
00:50:11
This Lakers team, which did a fantastic job selling out against the Rockets.
00:50:15
I'm gonna finish off 10. I wanna put Kuzma.
00:50:18
I think Kuzma deserves to be on this list.
00:50:20
I'm gonna put him over to veil McGee.
00:50:22
I would hope so.
00:50:23
If Kuzma is not as impactful.
00:50:25
JaVale McGee in the Serie That's bad for the Lakers.
00:50:27
He's been good.
00:50:28
He's been like, really, he's been good.
00:50:30
He's had his games where he's looked a little out of his element, but he's been really good defensively, and I've been.
00:50:34
That part has been impressive.
00:50:35
The offense he screwed on in this series defensively because if I'm Denver, I'm like Monte Morris.
00:50:40
Call for Michael Porter genius screen every time Cousins script guarding them like put him in every action and make him either defend the paint or defend Michael Porter Jr shooting from the wing because he's big enough to feel like he can contest.
00:50:52
Michael Porter Jr ain't gonna give two ****s if his hands in the air.
00:50:55
So I think that you can make him completely un functional.
00:50:59
I think the Nuggets have this system to just remove Kuzma from the SYRIZA on on the bench unit.
00:51:04
I really dare to use Kyle Kuzma was just wonderful.
00:51:08
Wonderful quote.
00:51:09
You could put Jesus in front of Michael Porter Jr.
00:51:12
You yes, yes, Porter Jr Straight upset, he was asked after one of the seating games when he was just like, you know, Michael Jordan for a hot minute there, he was asked, Like when you got when guys close out to you, do you notice? And he was like they might be there.
00:51:28
That was his answer.
00:51:29
They might be there.
00:51:30
He has no idea.
00:51:32
He's so tall, has so much lift. And he has.
00:51:35
Eyes are just always looking over the defense.
00:51:37
He doesn't feel anybody defending three at all.
00:51:41
Could it be a better Siris for him? It just depends.
00:51:45
Michael Porter Jr is a rookie in a playoff series in the Western Conference finals.
00:51:49
Maybe just if he's like mistake prone, that's really going to show up against this.
00:51:54
This Lakers team, which he was easier to be hidden against the Clippers.
00:51:58
Yeah, that's I think, going to be the biggest difference in this series, and that one is LeBron again.
00:52:01
LeBron James gonna see a rookie, and it's like barbecue chicken time like they're gonna go cook that kid.
00:52:07
But I you have to play him and LeBron is off the floor and Rondo like that's the hard part because both of those duties too smart to veteran Lee savvy.
00:52:16
They know what to do when you see a rookie on the floor who has trouble defending a pick and roll.
00:52:20
You attack him over and over and over and over again.
00:52:22
So we'll have to wait and see if they're able to attack him that way.
00:52:26
If they do, it's gonna be tough going from Michael Porter Jr.
00:52:29
Yeah, it's so he'd be the non LeBron Minutes guy and you just try it out.
00:52:33
Game one Game ones are always wonky, and you just see what you could do. All right, I like that.
00:52:37
I like the thoughts that I think we've hit some good stuff.
00:52:39
Leads to predictions. Let's do it.
00:52:41
Let's do it.
00:52:42
We're getting right into it. Doing some hip hop. Closing this out.
00:52:46
I'm taking Lakers than six, but I'm winning closer to seven than five.
00:52:50
Yeah, I think I'm gonna dio I have Lakers seven.
00:52:53
I think this is gonna be a good Siri's.
00:52:54
I just It's the old It's the old classic TV argument.
00:52:59
They have three of the best of the two of the three best players in the Siri's.
00:53:02
I just don't know you stop the pick and roll and I just I have tried every little thing in my brain.
00:53:06
I thought about If you rotate guys over and then it comes into, like Okay, wait, who's rotating over? Is it Michael Porter Jr.
00:53:11
So I don't know.
00:53:13
I don't know how you stop it.
00:53:14
And it it's It just feels like it.
00:53:17
If LeBron goes into a Game seven with this Nuggets team and he's just going to control things in the pick and roll and just it's the one thing I'll say about Game seven and I was talking to Matt more about this off the podcast, it was just like him and I talking.
00:53:29
He's a sports betting guy, obviously, the action networks we worked for, um, did you know that unders in game sevens in basketball since 2010 unders in under the total point total have hit 69.
00:53:40
2% of the time? Teams like this is a coin flip.
00:53:46
This is a coin flip of tickets to Game seven.
00:53:48
This is how I felt in the in the Clippers.
00:53:49
Syriza's well, momentum no longer matters.
00:53:51
Your star players no longer matters.
00:53:52
Are you going to get that random three pointer from Tory Craig.
00:53:55
That's what game sevens come down to, so I don't if it gets to Game seven, flip a coin.
00:54:01
So darts of the board.
00:54:02
I don't care how you try and figure it out, but there's no prediction to be made if it gets to seven.
00:54:07
Denver has Justus good of Ah, just as the Lakers do.
00:54:10
That's truly how I feel and you have the weight of expectations.
00:54:13
I think that that's a big thing, too, is, like again, just these little things that you can't really quite quantify.
00:54:18
Like if you're the Lakers and you have a D and LeBron, you've traded a million picks would which, once again having to face no, I get that you're playing trading two million gets treating one first round pick for Jerry Grant and then eliminating the teams who have traded a combined 27 of them.
00:54:33
To build this team is it's absolutely hysterical.
00:54:35
Paul George had less made jumpers in that Game seven than the total number of first round picks that were traded for him.
00:54:45
It's I'm still riding the high of this.
00:54:47
It's been it's been an all timer.
00:54:49
I'm like, Wow, I love Twitter like I'm like, I haven't felt this strongly about Twitter, and I don't even know how long.
00:54:54
E love it.
00:54:56
It was so much that was like peak slander from like from like warriors blowing a 31 lead.
00:55:01
That was the last time we had that level of slander.
00:55:04
I think it, yeah, it's funny, because the Clippers were also just so much more hate Herbal like, It's just like that's the even better part of this.
00:55:14
It's like every part of this was this was funny.
00:55:17
I don't even hate the Clippers team.
00:55:18
I am like I was one of the only people who watch the Warriors get Kevin Durant.
00:55:21
And I was like, Yes, dominance.
00:55:23
I love seeing like true dominance in sports.
00:55:26
It's rare. You don't get to watch dynasties.
00:55:28
This Clippers team.
00:55:29
I felt that way all the way until they lost and they were like, but we weren't in the bubble enough together against the Nuggets.
00:55:35
Seen that started Bull Bull at shooting guard because Troy Daniels was the Onley Garden. The bubble.
00:55:41
Oh, but you know what? We were fatigue.
00:55:43
We were tired against the Nuggets team that had played seven games against the Jazz prior to this, that when I was done, I was like, Take your excuses, the out of here.
00:55:51
I can't do it. I don't wanna hear it.
00:55:53
You're all trash.
00:55:54
Patrick Beverley yelling about flailing when they had 26 free throws.
00:55:57
Numbers 10 like No, um, I do not feel bad living your mediocrity for a long time. Clippers.
00:56:03
I'm cool with it.
00:56:04
Yeah, it's funny.
00:56:05
Like we had a solid 10 minutes about Global in our first stream.
00:56:08
Like, yes, 10 minutes toe lead on every radio hit.
00:56:11
It is Bowl bowl, Gonna play in the playoffs He the new backup center.
00:56:14
And I was like, guys like, jeez way, we're ready.
00:56:19
We're like energy there it was on Volvo.
00:56:21
No, it's It's funny.
00:56:23
I mean, I I honestly I was one of those people.
00:56:25
I really like them on paper.
00:56:26
I like the idea of it just throwing that many, you know, defenders out there.
00:56:30
But like everything that's transpired since then, I'm just kind of like, Yeah, I'm kind of with it.
00:56:34
Like through this, Like you guys air.
00:56:37
I don't know.
00:56:38
It's an attitude things.
00:56:39
So, um, are you sure? So we got Lakers six for you, Lakers seven for me.
00:56:43
Expected to be a good Siri's honestly like idea.
00:56:46
And I'm just going to say I'm ready for the Nuggets like I don't think anybody isn't Onley.
00:56:52
Lakers fans are rooting for the Lakers, right? Like I'm not a Nuggets fan, but I would love to see the Nuggets beat the Lakers.
00:56:57
And what's funny is this is a really likable Lakers team, like, I genuinely think there pretty likable.
00:57:01
They play at certain style and they stick to it and it's like they just take care of business and I don't know.
00:57:07
I find them pretty enjoyable and likable, and there are also different.
00:57:11
You know what I mean? Like, it's this giant team in a bunch of like, you know, it's just different.
00:57:16
They're not as balances, the remaining teams, but in that way, they're cool.
00:57:19
I think so.
00:57:20
So, yeah, I I would, uh I hope this is a good Siri's, and it's been an awesome playoffs, honestly, like the last two weeks.
00:57:28
Eventually, if there's one thing to finish out basketball conversation on nothing matters from the Nuggets perspective anymore.
00:57:33
This is all house money like right Now the Nuggets are the dude who is 22 years old at the casino table up like six grand and just throwing around like that's like anything else from now on.
00:57:43
Doesn't matter.
00:57:44
The Nuggets of already proven with any to prove agreed, agreed.
00:57:47
My friends, Let's do hip hop.
00:57:49
Let's D Oh, alright, First off hit boys having a just wonderful your production wise.
00:57:55
Uh, I don't know if you the nozzle was good.
00:57:57
Like I'm just gonna It's It's good.
00:58:00
I mean, compared.
00:58:01
It was every nice album ever.
00:58:02
It was like, Man, you songs.
00:58:04
It was like, No, it's every Knauss album ever like Man that third of the album so disagree.
00:58:09
I so disagree.
00:58:11
I thought it was the first album I've listened to top to bottom where I was like this was enjoyable, it disease, talking about right, Yeah, and I thought it was because it's not to say that like, everything was trash on it, but those songs, but like again, it was like there are three songs that were regularly play and then nothing else that I really need to go back.
00:58:31
Thio.
00:58:32
It was good, though it was good in terms of like hip hop artists 15 years out of their prime.
00:58:37
Like this is great stuff.
00:58:38
But that doesn't happen very often.
00:58:39
Like this is probably better than 4 44.
00:58:41
I'll say that much.
00:58:42
Yeah, I would agree. I would agree.
00:58:44
E mean that New Jersey is no way.
00:58:48
Don't have toe still act like either.
00:58:51
Like, I'm like, Do not turn that on once and I was like, e I got through three I pride myself in like I'll get through your 12 Drake tracks. Just a track.
00:59:01
I will give you the time I got through like I would say, three tracks for 44.
00:59:05
I was like, I never need to come back to this and I'm good.
00:59:08
Good luck. Have fun.
00:59:09
Yeah.
00:59:10
No, The Nas album It was It flowed well on it sounded modern, and I'm going to give him that, and I didn't hate, like sometimes I'm always like I just don't know if old school artists sound good on newer production, but I thought sonically it was It was it was better than what we've gotten in some of the years.
00:59:31
It's not like a classic album, but I thought it was good.
00:59:33
What have you got for me? What? You've been listening.
00:59:35
Okay, so it's a week removed from the, I believe, 12 year, and I know it's been longer than that.
00:59:40
Well, I can't remember how many years it's been since equipment I dropped, but it's been about like we're at the anniversary a week ago.
00:59:46
So I have had equipment on vinyl going recently that has been very enjoyable.
00:59:50
And then why G? Tut? I don't know if anybody knows this dude at a Chattanooga.
00:59:54
He's actually Uh, yeah, so this guy is awesome with Isaiah Rashad.
00:59:59
They've done a lot of music together as well.
01:00:00
He had a new album Come out that's also very, very good, and I have enjoyed that.
01:00:04
And then I've gotten trap E.
01:00:05
I've gotten into old Playboy Cardy with, like, 1000 band funny and stuff like that.
01:00:08
Like I've gotten into, like, very yeah, I get into, like when I start writing a lot out turned trap on don't know why, like interested you like it's screen recording like E.
01:00:22
I was cutting clips that I forgot.
01:00:23
The sound was still on the buddy, and I was like, I should probably during this off.
01:00:30
That might be, you know, that's that's the ****e that a film study needs.
01:00:35
E don't know.
01:00:36
Just like the weird background music from my Google home like that.
01:00:39
You know, that's necessarily the go thio.
01:00:42
But also maybe not the move.
01:00:44
I went old school.
01:00:46
I went to training Day not by Kendrick Lamar by k dot the old school ****.
01:00:51
Oh, dude, I live for K dot stuff, but I live for old black hippy stuff.
01:00:55
So that is also where I've been living.
01:00:57
And if you guys want to get like I white boy hip hop, I'm gonna be honest atmosphere and and the murders they used to go else dropped the new album.
01:01:06
It's so good.
01:01:07
Thank you. I was bringing that.
01:01:09
That was on my my little doc, and I'm like, I got to make sure I bring this up.
01:01:12
I have a soft spot for atmospheres for slug in My Heart and also the murmurs 3 16.
01:01:17
The ninth edition is one of my favorite produced albums of all time.
01:01:20
Like Ninth Wonder Walk Like a Man.
01:01:23
It was one of the greatest tracks and one of the best transitions from beat to beat I've ever heard in my life like he is that good.
01:01:31
Also shot to the fast anti lounge Let's go wonder on his instagram lies.
01:01:35
It was fun, man.
01:01:37
Agreed.
01:01:38
Um, yeah, Funny, actually, I'm still listen to the atmosphere album from last year.
01:01:42
I think with I haven't liked a lot of new slug stuff e I go back to, like seven Travels like like my like.
01:01:51
My dad had the overcast cassette in his eight track plan.
01:01:55
Like Like I have always been a big fan of slug, but, like, as he's kind of gotten to this more mature adult, haven't enjoyed it as much like Yeah, and it wasn't a dad wrapped like it was.
01:02:06
I'm like, I'm cool with it.
01:02:07
Some of it I'm like, Yeah, it's not bad.
01:02:10
It's just not five.
01:02:12
No man like I'm telling you God's bathroom floor.
01:02:15
It was like a revolutionary hip hop track in my world, like I loved that track and, like the atmosphere really is like I saw atmosphere, Ethnic.
01:02:23
I don't know if you've looked up any of his live stuff on YouTube.
01:02:25
There's a video of him at Red Rocks of one of those red rock performances from, like, seven years ago in the summertime with it, like barely raining throughout the dude I was at that show.
01:02:33
One is still the most spiritual show I've ever been to, like.
01:02:37
Yeah, I will always have a soft spot in my soul for slug.
01:02:41
I will. I will.
01:02:42
I will, Um, What's the one thing about about red rocks, man? Denver's got red rocks.
01:02:45
It's a heck of a venue.
01:02:47
I've never I've never seen or heard or done too much really know too much about it.
01:02:52
Yeah, it's incredible.
01:02:54
Yeah, this is the way, Um, I'm plugging.
01:02:58
I've mentioned this a couple of times.
01:02:59
See you soon.
01:03:00
All under case all one word.
01:03:02
It's a mix of Gold Link and Brock Hampton.
01:03:07
I would say it's what? Yeah, it Z how do you get, like, African diaspora? Gold link? Oh, Brockett e.
01:03:16
It's really dope, though.
01:03:18
I've been listening to it a lot and like, yeah, Zack and I don't I just found it on, like, apple music, just like they do new releases.
01:03:26
And I was like, What is this? And I was just like, whoa.
01:03:28
Like what? What is going on? like I'm like, This is an experience.
01:03:32
It's really eclectic.
01:03:35
And I've been on my flea, Lord Conway, the machine.
01:03:39
I've been on that a lot lately because I'm in New York, and I just think I've leaned in that, which is hilarious because I'm still like I looking at it.
01:03:48
I'm the same rare, like I'm from California myself.
01:03:51
Man, it's the same thing.
01:03:53
But, I mean, I love the hip hop scene out here, and this was a different switch. So see you soon.
01:04:01
I don't know how I really came across it, but it's been really good.
01:04:05
And the album is called V Day.
01:04:07
I believe so.
01:04:08
If we're plugging people who are not heard from enough, go check out Nicholas F out of Richmond, Virginia.
01:04:13
Oh, I I c k e l U s.
01:04:16
It is actually a home.
01:04:17
Your mind? I used to work with Drake.
01:04:19
Yeah, once you got that one track out there, but yeah, man, that's my guy.
01:04:25
And his music is good.
01:04:26
If you wanna get really weird, go find his battle raps.
01:04:29
Nobody battle raps like Nicholas F.
01:04:31
Yes, and another guy that makes, like very, uh, just different.
01:04:35
Just different.
01:04:36
Different music is kind of and he's like the big Crip model of, like, mix master produce and write everything he does.
01:04:44
Um, yeah, definitely a unique sound.
01:04:46
Kind of like I don't Do you know Vic Spencer? No.
01:04:50
Expensive.
01:04:51
This is the one writing it down. This is rare.
01:04:53
That I come with you and me are the same way.
01:04:55
Like I don't not find hip hop very often.
01:04:57
So it's my clear.
01:04:59
So forces, by the way.
01:05:00
Yeah, literally.
01:05:02
J Dilla is one of my good homies.
01:05:03
So that's awesome. Nice.
01:05:05
Yeah, that he also had a new project a year ago.
01:05:08
Like, I guess I don't I don't know time anymore.
01:05:10
I don't have time doesn't exist.
01:05:12
E don't know.
01:05:13
It could have been a month ago.
01:05:14
It could have been among here and six months.
01:05:16
I don't know.
01:05:17
I know the Nuggets, which Lakers plays tomorrow and that's how my day goes.
01:05:21
That's not all I need to worry about.
01:05:23
It's funny like music to my way of like trying to figure out what what month it is because and it's also my my like my just my breather from everything we're so bogged down with the bubble in games every other day.
01:05:35
I'm like, I need just a little bit of e Don't listen to podcast anymore, man.
01:05:38
I listen to music again.
01:05:39
I'm like, out on the podcast listening game E.
01:05:43
Yeah, I've I've been in the podcast lately mostly because I've been doing some of these shows and I'm just like, I wanna listen to other people and, like, listen to podcast stuff and just get better at podcasting.
01:05:52
But and also just like, whatever.
01:05:55
Like, listen to the people that I have on, for example, So but music is I always got to make a little bit of time.
01:06:01
Um, any other things that you gotta plug musically or just writing wise podcast wise? Honestly, I'm gonna I'm gonna shout out the new finish line block because I got some friends who are writing about hip hop over there.
01:06:12
Jason Buford.
01:06:13
Been writing amazing stuff over at finish line.
01:06:15
So go check out at finish line.
01:06:17
You will find some really, really cool stuff.
01:06:19
There was a thick women I anniversary.
01:06:22
There was the I believe it was.
01:06:24
The tribe called West Anniversary one of their albums, but there's a couple of great pieces up there right now.
01:06:30
And I've really enjoyed watching and listening to those and then mile high sports dot com.
01:06:33
You want to read the good stuff in Rocky Mountain Tips podcast? And if you really want my insanity at T.
01:06:37
J McBride MBA on Twitter got great follow.
01:06:40
I would.
01:06:41
I couldn't recommend it. Enough chaos.
01:06:43
Man, You like watching Gary Harris, uh, keep an eye on the man and his man in the ball like little clips? Little small things.
01:06:51
This is the guy for it. T.
01:06:53
J. Thank you so much for coming on. We'll do this soon.
01:06:55
It's always good to see you.
01:06:56
There's a ton of fun, man. Stay safe.
01:06:58
You, too.

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