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00:00:10
Welcome back to sports headlines.
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Essays.
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Prime time is back, at least the pregame show.
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Welcome back on Sean Davis wrapping my Lakers tonight, joined by Warners, and we'll be joined by the founder across over 3 65.
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All what America is Lakers Central, Alex Holland or Hollings is the Holland I get.
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All right.
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Collinsworth, man, how's it going? Good.
00:00:32
Thank you for having or thank you for joining Rather and really quickly, really quickly before we get started.
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I saw your tweet about the mama mentality, but how far you into the book, because I started not too long ago is well, I mean, like, 60 pages deep.
00:00:48
Okay, I think I'm somewhere around like page 101 Man, I've had it for a while.
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When I every now and then I go in there and I read a few pages.
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And then I just happened to be downstairs.
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My wife, she was reading a book and I picked it up and just started going through it.
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Man, I figured tonight was a great time. Thio.
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They go ahead and open up Kobe's bookman and hopefully we get this win and close this thing out and get to the Western Conference finals.
00:01:10
Yeah, give you as much rest as possible.
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The Clippers or a team.
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You don't want to get them rest, too.
00:01:15
But let's get right into it here.
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So Game five tonight. Lakers Rockets.
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It's been a weird Siris of Game one.
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The Lakers.
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The Rockets beat the Lakers, uh, in Game one, and then the Lakers have looked dominant.
00:01:29
Games 234 Alex, we could start with you on this one was what have you been most impressed about from the Lakers in this series so far? Their adjustments, man.
00:01:40
I mean, Game one.
00:01:42
The Rockets came out and beat us, right? And I.
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The Rockets were going to be a difficult matchup because their style of play is kind of unorthodox.
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The Lakers run to run three. Big three.
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Big lineup. The Lakers, the Rockets.
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Don't they run? Basically, anybody that 65 and smaller right? So I figured that they would be a difficulty, um, matchup.
00:02:02
But since that that Game one, you know, vocals went to playing a team or at the five, even though Anthony Davis, if you notice when the game starts like the last game 80 is not listed as the center.
00:02:14
Markieff is listed as the center, um, for whatever reason, but eighties playing more.
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Five.
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They were playing more marquee for You know, you're saying coups play a lot more.
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They're playing small.
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Well, small for the Lakers, right? I mean, are small, right? 86 10 Marquita 69 LeBron is 69 You know Casey ph 6465 Danny Greece, 67 So even when we go small, we're still significantly bigger than the Rockets.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I want to say kudos to Frank Vogel for finally finally realizing that finally reason that realizing that the two big lineup really three big line about you point out, uh, was not working at all.
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Um, but, you know, it's it's just a zoo said the adjustments that that air that are key.
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And in a series like this, I think there's gotta be a lot more to come, especially against the Clippers.
00:03:14
Migrating, um, from a team like Houston to a team like the Clippers, and it's gonna be a big test for this Lakers team.
00:03:24
Yeah, what's really impressed me in this Siri's is how the depth that really talked about and like, kind of been frustrated about.
00:03:34
People say the Lakers have no death.
00:03:35
Well, they kind of shut people up this Siri, especially Game four, where LeBron didn't need tohave.
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UH, what was his game threes down with 36 like, 11 or what? He didn't need to have that for them to win game point.
00:03:48
It was a wider wire win, except that terrible fourth quarter by the Liquor's what Caruso pitch named 16 playoff Rondo is a real thing.
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If you've been living under a rock for the past seven years, he's a real thing.
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Um, Cal Koosman hasn't been terrific, but he still gives you quality minutes.
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Um, Danny Green and Casey.
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People like four from eight from three in Game four and then a d.
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Obviously doing his thing as well.
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So I love the way that everybody is like, really played well, this Siri's and they've they've had to, because Harden and Westbrook have are two of the better guards in the league, and they've done a great great job defensively after Game one.
00:04:30
Adjusting to a LeBron would say the speed of the Rockets.
00:04:34
Um, but yeah, that's all to Frank Vogel is you guys have already mentioned.
00:04:39
I mean, like you said Man Rondo like So I'm not a I'm not a big fan of the playoff Rondo thing, but I will say this.
00:04:49
Do this play well, since he came back from injury, he's been great, and you got to give credit where credit is due, man.
00:04:55
And so shout out the Rondo.
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He's come back. He's controlled the pace.
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He's played well and honestly, you know, left you, said Warner.
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Vogel's adjustments, whether it be going to kind of a smaller lineup or trapping trapping, Ah, James Harden.
00:05:11
The Rockets have had no idea what to do with the Lakers double teaming and trapping James hard.
00:05:16
If they're complaining, you know, I see a lot of Rockets fans on Twitter complaining that the Lakers are double teaming him.
00:05:22
Well, like, you know, I'm a huge Kobe fan, right? Like you don't just like Kobe go for 50.
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You didn't just like Jordan 50.
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I mean, you had to double team them.
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Now.
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The difference between James Harden and Kobe Bryant, Michael Jordan, is that Well, you know what? It's funny.
00:05:39
Let me step back for a second.
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I was reading the mama mentality book, right? And Kobe talked about that three pointer he hit on the final.
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Siri's against Detroit.
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The only game that we won against Detroit? No, for we end up losing that Syria, but the one game we won, Kobe said.
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No matter what happened at the end of that game, he was going to get that last shot.
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He was gonna do whatever it took to get that shot.
00:06:01
What you see, what you see in this Rocket syriza's that when James Harden gets double team, he passes the ball and he doesn't fight to get the ball back at all.
00:06:11
Like he passes the ball off and then he kind of stands at the three point line.
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He just like, What do I do? He doesn't.
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I mean, if you're a great offensive player and Harden is a great offensive player, but if you're a good as like he thinks he is, you go get the ball back, man.
00:06:26
But the Rockets have had no idea what to do with the Lakers trapping James Harden, and it's worked.
00:06:31
And so I'm curious to see if the Rockets making adjustment tonight against the Lakers But so far the Lakers have just been too much.
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And one more point.
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I wanna make Anthony Davis guarding Russell Westbrook.
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That's crazy.
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And it's been effective.
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Like how many teams have a 6 10 guy that can garden explosive guard like That's crazy.
00:06:51
Hey, Sean, remember when I mentioned something about Anthony Davis being the guy who had to stop Westbrook in the paint when we were talking about our recall? You saying that? Stop lying.
00:07:02
Stop.
00:07:03
Yeah, I definitely recall me saying that.
00:07:05
I just want to point that out.
00:07:06
A little bragging punch for me really quickly.
00:07:09
We mentioned this on our episode two goes yesterday.
00:07:12
Anthony Davis.
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They like to play nine games in the playoffs so far, 7 80 s head.
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At least 25 points and 10 rebounds.
00:07:21
That's the most since Shock did it back in.
00:07:24
04 so let's go to the other L A team really quickly.
00:07:30
I almost died watching that Nuggets game last night.
00:07:32
I hate watching the Nuggets play.
00:07:34
They don't play defense and offense is all tough shots, but anyway, Alex, is there any real chance Denver wins Game six and we get a game seven, and even Denver potentially wins Game seven in the Clippers 50 year conference finals.
00:07:54
I guess not going.
00:07:56
Their streak continues.
00:08:00
There's always a chance.
00:08:01
I mean, Denver is a good team, you know? I'm saying like the Clippers screwed up last night because the Clippers behave like a franchise or like a team that's actually 1 16 champions.
00:08:12
The Clippers act like the Lakers should act right like the Clippers run this whole campaign streetlights over spotlight.
00:08:18
Yet they act like they won 16 championships and they have not.
00:08:22
Right.
00:08:23
So, you know, Marcus Morris get into it with, uh, with one of the players from Denver last night? Uh, yeah, Paul Millsap, You get to the park and then that kind of that kind of turned the game around right? And so Denver can get hot, man.
00:08:39
I mean, even though they've been outclassed, this entire Siri's, um, Yokich has completely been better than than big zoo.
00:08:47
Trez can't do anything with them.
00:08:49
They can't do anything with Yoga is right.
00:08:52
Murray has been a bit weak, this Siri's.
00:08:55
But as we saw in the Utah, Siri's Murray could go over 40 or 52 or three games in a row.
00:09:00
And then what? Right? We've also seen a Paul George.
00:09:03
He could go really quiet for three or four games in a row also.
00:09:06
So you don't want to get in a shootout with Denver? Um, look, I think the Clippers win this Siri's.
00:09:13
But Denver has a shot.
00:09:16
You know, I'm saying like the Clippers should have closed them out last night.
00:09:20
Should be there by 20 last night for being honest, to not close them out.
00:09:26
I mean, if Denver forces a Game seven gotta be nervous, the Clippers have to be nervous, man foreign, especially with that kind of lack of rest.
00:09:37
I mean, it's good to get the action in, but you know, the Lakers there would be hot off beating the Rockets in at most six games of Houston takes the tonight's game.
00:09:46
Um, and and you know they've got some rest.
00:09:49
But it's not like they had, like, you know, they in the NFL.
00:09:53
They bench their starters for weeks 17 and they got a first round bye.
00:09:56
They haven't played in two weeks.
00:09:57
These guys just played like, three or four days ago, and they're they're well rested.
00:10:02
They're anxious.
00:10:03
They they want to get into this Siri's.
00:10:04
They want to show who is the better l A team.
00:10:07
Really.
00:10:08
Shut up the Clippers.
00:10:09
As you said, the Clippers are acting like they've won, uh, multiple championships, 16 as you said, which they definitely haven't.
00:10:15
And they have definitely been the smaller of the two l A teams for a long as they have existed.
00:10:21
And I think that's kind of banging on a little bit of the Lakers nerves.
00:10:26
And, you know, it's just, uh it's a detriment to them, um, their their death line.
00:10:31
I really didn't play together in the regular season, which I think is hurting them a little bit in the playoffs.
00:10:36
And once they, you know, play this well oiled Lakers team, um, in the comments finals, assuming they don't get beat by the Nuggets, then I think they're really gonna be in for in for something.
00:10:47
Um, you know, I think everybody would say that the Lakers are much more well oiled, cohesive team than the Nuggets.
00:10:54
They play smoother and just more cohesively, and I think that's that's gonna be a little bit of weakness for the Clippers.
00:11:03
Look, man, one thing.
00:11:04
One thing people overlook on the Clippers see me quite has been too multiple championships.
00:11:09
Right? So who has been there? Everybody else? Yeah, e mean, Doc has been there, but Doc's teams have under achieved his Celtics teams that that Boston team acts like they won three in a row.
00:11:23
They want one? Yeah, they behave like they won three in a row.
00:11:27
They won one time His his lob City Clippers didn't win it all back.
00:11:32
They didn't win one.
00:11:34
They want they never got to the finals at all, right? So Doc Rivers teams has underachieved and then you look at the rest of that Clippers roster.
00:11:44
Nobody else has been there.
00:11:46
I mean, Paul George, certainly.
00:11:47
You know, the Indiana Pacers battled LeBron and, you know, in in the Eastern Conference finals.
00:11:52
But as we've seen in the playoffs, Paul George He gets really shaky in the playoffs, right in game situations.
00:11:58
So if you get into a Game seven with Denver, it's a toss up man.
00:12:04
Like you got quiet.
00:12:05
And if you've got co, I look, you should be good to go, right? But do you really want to get in a shootout? with Denver in a Game seven.
00:12:14
I don't know if you wanna wanna go down that route and thank you, Alex, because I look like the bad guy on her show constantly because I said, Alright, Paul George is not a top 20 player.
00:12:23
He's not God, I think.
00:12:27
E think he's a top 20 player.
00:12:29
Okay, okay. Wait, wait, wait.
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Don't have my list on me If you don't mind.
00:12:34
If you don't mind, I'm a read off 20 toe like 12 and if you disagree with anything, let me know.
00:12:42
So let's start with 20.
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Rudy go Bare.
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19.
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Bradley Bill 18.
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This was before the playoffs before the playing games.
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18 Jayson Tatum 17 Chris Paul 16.
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Trae Young, 15.
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Clay Thompson, 14 Westbrook 13 Jimmy Buckets 12.
00:13:02
Nicola Yokich 11 Kyrie 10 m b.
00:13:05
Alright, So here I would say this one take play out because he's interested this season.
00:13:09
Take I really because with injured most of the season, Westbrook, I'd say Paul George is better than Westbrook right now.
00:13:14
Um, well, he had A and B and B.
00:13:17
Certainly better, I'd say and be. It's a top 10 player.
00:13:19
Um, Trey, I take Paul George Overtrained, man.
00:13:26
I mean, trade. What Year? Year, too.
00:13:28
I take Paul George betrayed, like in a play.
00:13:32
If you're building a team like a decade out, you take Trey.
00:13:35
But, like, right now, I think you take Paul George.
00:13:37
But Paul George is the top 20 player man.
00:13:40
I could probably make an argument. He stop.
00:13:44
I was I I agree with you completely, Alex and I was smiling because Sean got got into it a little bit about Paul.
00:13:53
George is playoff success because you guys were making him out to be like I wish is completely appalled, George Hayter.
00:14:01
When we were we had interview with Sabrina Merchant from, uh, thing.
00:14:06
It wasn't silver screen and roll.
00:14:08
She also does stuff for explanation for the Clippers side.
00:14:11
I just said that he has not played well in the playoffs since his earlier pacers.
00:14:16
That right, thank you.
00:14:20
But that doesn't.
00:14:21
That doesn't mean that he is not a top 20.
00:14:22
Put like sometimes guys just better is like number two than number one.
00:14:26
Like he, he has the skill set to be number one.
00:14:29
He just is not a number one.
00:14:31
That's just the thing.
00:14:32
You know what I'm saying, But his heart.
00:14:35
I can't imagine to be 20 guys better than Paul George.
00:14:38
Like he is a bad boy.
00:14:41
Sean might not have felt it this year because of all the kind of clippers not liking the Clippers.
00:14:48
Okay, Way using the bias joke.
00:14:53
But K D is the second best player after a torn Achilles when he's healthy.
00:14:58
But he's not going to be the same player after Achilles.
00:15:01
Okay, whatever.
00:15:03
Whatever.
00:15:04
80 k d 80% is the top five player.
00:15:05
I don't care what you're talking about.
00:15:07
All right? Okay.
00:15:08
A Okay, Katie.
00:15:11
80% top top five player. Yes.
00:15:15
Oh, no, my friend.
00:15:17
80%.
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80%.
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80 player.
00:15:21
Ah, healthy.
00:15:22
Katie is a second best player in the NBA, Right, But at 80%.
00:15:27
So let's say 80%.
00:15:29
Katie.
00:15:30
So you've got lebron you in any particular order, and I'm not saying in 125 just any particular order you've got.
00:15:36
LeBron, you've got Johannes.
00:15:38
You've got Katie, right? So I mean, LeBron Yannis and co wide those three automatics, right? Anthony Davis is top five.
00:15:47
I think you can like toe.
00:15:49
I had been at least eso Who else? Who else? We? Am I leaving out E.
00:15:57
You gotta put stuff for Damian Lillard in their game.
00:16:00
Top five. No game is not top five.
00:16:02
Healthy step is top five.
00:16:04
I think I e.
00:16:05
I think Harden is top five.
00:16:06
Also, like hard.
00:16:08
Might be hard my playoff struggles.
00:16:10
But Harden, you can't have a 38 points and not be a top five player like that's not.
00:16:15
That's not, You know, I'm saying like that's not easy.
00:16:19
So e don't have to say he's benefiting from the D'Antoni's system a little bit.
00:16:24
I mean, he's lethal score, but I think his numbers might be slightly inflated.
00:16:28
No, I agree with that part.
00:16:31
I just 80 80% So 80% k d eso.
00:16:37
Let's put it this way, man.
00:16:39
We stole what Kobe looked like.
00:16:40
Obviously, Kobe was later in his career, 57.
00:16:44
At that point, I mean, he was year 17 when he tore his Achilles.
00:16:48
But when Kobe tours Achilles, he was averaging 27 5 and five, and he was willing the Lakers to the playoffs.
00:16:54
He had 12 game winners that year was killing it.
00:16:57
He tours Achilles and he never looked the same.
00:17:00
KB is 7 ft tall, like when a seven footer terraces.
00:17:05
Achilles like DeMarcus cousins, cousins, one of the most skilled big man in the NBA has doesn't look the same.
00:17:11
It's slightly different, actually.
00:17:14
When buggy came back, he looks good.
00:17:17
And then he towards Quad Z leads to other issues when you're that size.
00:17:23
So it's not like Katie is like 66 where, you know, I'm saying like at six at 6 11 7 ft and I don't even think he played 50 games next year you're You're carrying more weight.
00:17:35
You got me on you more and more, uh, from the injury re injury.
00:17:40
Although Katie, it does have that polished game where you can shoot a three from 40 ft out.
00:17:45
Or he can he can go ahead and post, arise somebody hateful people.
00:17:49
He will be able to shoot over anybody.
00:17:52
When he's 70 years old, he can shoot over anybody, but what makes him special ways he could shoot over you and get to the basket.
00:17:58
And once your Achilles goes, you lose your ex some of your explosion.
00:18:01
And if he loses his explosion, he has no way to top five player.
00:18:06
I don't want to see what I hope Katie goes.
00:18:10
Dropped 28 next year so I could look like this morning.
00:18:12
He does freaking person on the planet.
00:18:15
I hope he does that.
00:18:16
But I'm a Katie fan, man. I hope.
00:18:19
I hope he comes back healthy.
00:18:20
I really do.
00:18:21
But 80% Katie, top five.
00:18:25
I mean, because where does that? Where do you put Luca? True Luca next year.
00:18:29
I mean, if he keeps improving to this pace, Yeah, I mean, Luca next year, okay? And even if LeBron takes a slight dip, LeBron still top five.
00:18:40
I don't see where Katie fits into that point.
00:18:42
I think you're underestimating the severity oven.
00:18:45
Achille. Sean, if it was Yes, yell.
00:18:47
Okay.
00:18:48
Hey.
00:18:49
Might be just let Alex carry the whole argument.
00:18:53
And that was like, Yep, that's absolutely right.
00:18:55
I don't think your stop.
00:18:59
I've been saying this stuff for a while, but it's time you hear it from a different mouth.
00:19:02
So you believe? Um, let's switch back to tonight's game of game five.
00:19:07
Lakers rockets.
00:19:08
Um What sort of Warner Warner Who would you say is the biggest X factor for both teams.
00:19:13
And I know Daniel House, as Warren has made very clear in our, uh, team E.
00:19:19
I swear.
00:19:20
I've just, like, kind of muted.
00:19:21
It's getting very I don't even know what the word is.
00:19:24
Well, wonder who's the biggest X factor for both teams tonight? I think if Daniel House was playing, you would definitely be House.
00:19:31
And I think the lack of houses really gonna affect Houston.
00:19:35
I've got to say their biggest X factors still gotta be James Harden, Even though, you know, he's kind of an obvious answer.
00:19:43
Like, why don't you pick somebody who's who has a little bit less of a role, See if they can step up? It's gonna fall on the shoulders of James Harden, as it does every every playoff year playoff Siris for the Rockets.
00:19:56
And if he doesn't perform, um to you know, his 30 35 points and still making you know, good good passes, not turning the ball over and maybe creating a few turnovers himself, then I think the Rockets have a really good shot to win this game.
00:20:15
But Harden, um, you know, let's let's the Lakers kind of trap him.
00:20:21
Doesn't fight for the ball back.
00:20:23
Um, then then you know they're gonna be able to limit him in some way.
00:20:27
And while he might score 30 points, it's still gonna be a different game.
00:20:31
Um, that the Rockets are trying to play, and they're gonna be playing from behind all night.
00:20:36
What about from the Lakers side of things? Um, from the Lakers? I think it's gotta be.
00:20:42
I think it's gotta be Danny Green.
00:20:43
We've seen KCP and Green both kind of turn, turn tides, Um, after, you know, not shooting and then missing all the shots.
00:20:51
Now they're starting to hit those shots that were taken.
00:20:54
Um, I think it's gonna be, you know, if one of those two can really, um, you know, catch fire.
00:21:00
I think the Lakers would run away with this game, even if Harden really, you know, plays like regular season harden.
00:21:09
Well, that won't happen because it's the playoffs. I'm joking.
00:21:12
Go ahead, Alex.
00:21:14
Eso for the Rockets, man.
00:21:15
I agree with one.
00:21:16
I think Harden needs to step up like he he needs some help.
00:21:19
The other guys need to hit some shots, but unfortunately, with the NBA comes down to the superstars and either the superstar carries the team or he's the one that gets bashed.
00:21:30
If they lose, I think it comes down to harden on the Laker side.
00:21:34
Um, the The X factor is the Lakers bench.
00:21:37
LeBron and Anthony Davis.
00:21:38
They're gonna be LeBron Anthony Davis.
00:21:40
They've shown off Syria's Houston can't do anything with them.
00:21:42
Um, but there's not one player on the Lakers bench for me that needs to be better than the rest of the bench players.
00:21:49
But what you did see, you've seen Marcus, Mark, Keith. More. Step up.
00:21:53
You've seen Alex Caruso have a good game.
00:21:55
You've seen Rondo have a great game like they're They're kind of doing it as a committee.
00:22:00
And this is a game where the bench, you know, the role players, so to speak, me to come out and hit some shots play defense.
00:22:08
Because last game, Houston was like shell shocked.
00:22:12
They were demoralized.
00:22:13
They were sulking like they looked like they wanted to go home, and the Lakers need to get need to come out with that same intensity tonight and wrap this thing up early on, knock him out.
00:22:23
But I want to see the benches some shots.
00:22:24
I don't want to see LeBron have to play 40 minutes.
00:22:27
Have to come back in like he did the other night when when the game kinda got away from the Lakers and Houston kind of went on a run.
00:22:33
I want to see the bench step up.
00:22:36
Yeah, from from the rocket side things you guys both said hardened.
00:22:40
Someone tryto divert from that.
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Pick somebody differently.
00:22:43
Here, Um, I think there's a couple of options Robert Covington has to step up, I think, to give Harden some support.
00:22:52
He played big time in that thunder.
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Siri's.
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Can he do that tonight? Eric Gordon is another guy.
00:22:58
He will get myself.
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Is that game, too? I think the Lakers were out big, and in that third quarter it was the Eric Gordon Show, late night with Eric Gordon in the bubble, and he really kept them in that game.
00:23:09
Lakers did eventually pulled away, but was really Eric Gordon.
00:23:12
They kept him in that and Ken Russell Westbrook look like he's a superstar.
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Players still, and I've said on numerous occasions that is not hardened.
00:23:21
It's rust that benefits from this five out isolation ball the most because if Harden drives gets double teamed and Russ is right there, he's going to get the ball on the catch and he's driving towards the room and it's either a kick out on the corner or it's a dunk or Russell Westbrook.
00:23:38
So, um, can rust like a superstar tonight and for the Lakers side of things.
00:23:44
Um e think kcp maybe kcp the Danny Green's.
00:23:49
I guess I kind of agree with Alexa's well here.
00:23:52
Um, you know what? Lebron's canoe while the way LeBron and close out games? Um, they're 14 and won their last 15 close out games, and he's averaged 29 9 and eight in those close out games.
00:24:06
So we know what LeBron's gonna dio.
00:24:08
We know what 80 has been doing in this playoffs.
00:24:10
It's everybody else.
00:24:12
What are they gonna need? Toe closes out and give them and at least an extra day arrests opposed to the Clippers? So what do you guys corporations? Mhm.
00:24:25
Yeah, I don't know, man.
00:24:28
It's weird because, you know, the game could kind of be high scoring.
00:24:30
Or it could be low just depending on the shooting.
00:24:33
Um e mean I think both teams break 100.
00:24:36
Um, but over to 16.
00:24:38
5? Oh, I'd say, Oh, man, I'd say I'd say over.
00:24:47
I think I think over over by a lot over.
00:24:53
It's personally Houston's wants to win over.
00:24:56
I don't think Houston is gonna win. I think it's gonna be over.
00:24:59
But not by that much.
00:25:00
Maybe 8 to 10 points.
00:25:02
Um, yeah.
00:25:03
I think the Lakers gonna take this one in advance to the Western Conference finals just the way that they've kind of handled the Rockets these last four games or three games.
00:25:12
Just, you know, the Rockets have to show me otherwise.
00:25:17
If the Lakers can get out to a double digit lead in the third and maybe take that to the poor.
00:25:21
I mean, at that point, the Rockets will pull their starters and the game will be over.
00:25:25
So, um, that's that's That's what I hope happens.
00:25:28
I don't want, you know, I want the Lakers to win under every cir***stance, but I want them to blow them out and get this thing over with.
00:25:37
Yeah, one of the final questions.
00:25:40
Rather so in the East, the Eastern Conference finals matchup it's set for that.
00:25:46
He and the Celtic men wanna.
00:25:47
We're talking about it.
00:25:48
Pregame are free.
00:25:51
This? Yeah.
00:25:52
Um, pregame.
00:25:53
Pretty pregame.
00:25:54
Um, who would you rather face out of the Celtics in the heat? They're both tough matchups and schematically.
00:26:01
I know who I would rather face, but who would you rather face in that? Siri's if there's a Lakers fan, I mean, just as a as a fan man.
00:26:10
Boston L a Celtics Lakers.
00:26:13
I mean, that's the NBA would probably love that, you know? So I'd say that, um, we beat the heat.
00:26:23
We beat Boston this year.
00:26:24
Both teams are gonna be tough, no matter what.
00:26:26
I mean, they both play defense.
00:26:27
They both have athletic wings, their shooters there that I think Boston and the heater going to be in a dogfight.
00:26:34
Um, I could see that Syria's going six or seven games.
00:26:39
Um, but it just as a fan.
00:26:43
And I don't like Boston at all.
00:26:44
I'd like to see him get bounced out.
00:26:45
But I love Jason Tatum.
00:26:47
I hate the Celtics.
00:26:48
Yeah, I think of my historical perspective.
00:26:50
I think that the MBA would love to see a Boston, you know.
00:26:53
Ah, Celtics, Lakers finals.
00:26:55
Yeah, um, for me, it's also gotta be Boston.
00:26:59
But for the Lakers have gone through probably the most dangerous eighth seed in MBA history to the Rockets, with do of harder than Westbrook Thio going through potentially the Clippers.
00:27:11
And then they get ring number 17 for Kobe, beating LeBron's greatest rival ever and the Lakers greatest rival ever.
00:27:20
To get number 17.
00:27:21
That's got to be Boston.
00:27:24
Yeah, I think that might shut up Warren a little bit on LeBron had an easy path to the finals, too, but for my pick, um, as a fan and as somebody who you know, watches the N b A and enjoy doing it, I gotta say Boston, just because you said the historical precedent.
00:27:41
Um, But if I'm the Lakers, I want to face the heat.
00:27:44
And there's really one reason why I think a D can have more of an impact against bam than he can against Thais and Bam bam plays a larger role is what I'm saying in in the heat.
00:27:57
Then Thais does in the Celtics and also the heat don't have as many guys that can, you know, create and dropped 25 off the dribble any given night like the Celtics do.
00:28:06
Um, I will say, I will say this, however, wouldn't it? Wouldn't it be the perfect end to the season to see a team like the Heat? You just went all in and win. Now, mode.
00:28:19
Come in In this competitive, um, you know, season, you have LeBron coming back from injury with the Lakers not making the playoffs last year.
00:28:27
No real super team.
00:28:29
Um, you've got a bunch of star a bunch of teams with two stars, and I think it would just It would be a classic way to end the season and tough down to the wire. Seven game.
00:28:41
Siri's maybe a few overtimes in those seven games.
00:28:43
And I think either way, either team that we get is gonna be a great end of the season.
00:28:50
Yeah, the heat, the heat.
00:28:51
They've done a great job this year, man.
00:28:52
And you've still got the LeBron Miami connection because he used to play there.
00:28:56
Pat Riley used to coach the Lakers.
00:28:58
You know it.
00:28:59
Whatever happens if the Lakers make it to the finals.
00:29:02
Um, it'll be a phenomenal story for the MBA.
00:29:08
Yeah, Yeah, I'm looking forward to that Eastern Conference finals.
00:29:13
Much I make the tab ITM or the Lakers Clippers because I knew Lakers Clippers was coming and I think spo the fact that he wasn't a finalist for Coach of the Year's disrespectful as ever.
00:29:24
He's yes, just disrespectful.
00:29:27
Um, we're gonna do flip the table we haven't done in a wall.
00:29:31
Eso wanted to explain what book the table lists as we close the S H pregame show.
00:29:36
Yeah, so basically, whoever we have on the show can ask Sean or myself for both of us.
00:29:42
Any question? Really? It could be about the show.
00:29:45
It could be about sports.
00:29:46
It could be about personal life.
00:29:48
Eso go ahead and put the table for us.
00:29:50
Warner typically tries toe flip his table and normally fails miserably just for reference.
00:29:55
I don't I don't want to mess up the set up, man. That's that'll.
00:29:58
Take a while to get back together.
00:30:00
Yeah, I'll ask you guys, man.
00:30:02
Well, uh, in both of you, just historically, who's your favorite basketball player of all time? I think LeBron the generic and survival go to my favorite player.
00:30:14
Besides LeBron Chris, Paul, outside of LeBron Chris, Paul's the guy that got me in the basketball just watching how he controlled the game in his prime and got everybody involved offensively then.
00:30:27
His prime, uh, constant All MBA defender, all n b A defensive team player.
00:30:33
So Chris Paul, one of my favorite players of all time, probably my second favorite player of all time a lot.
00:30:39
Shaun's more in to basketball than I am.
00:30:41
I'm going to preface that by saying by saying that, um, I think my favorite player right now is probably Damian Lillard.
00:30:48
I just love the way he plays the competitive fire he has, um, and especially a little banter he had with the Clippers.
00:30:54
That was That was amazing.
00:30:56
Um, when you missed the free throws and I was so worried, I was like Dagget, Clippers.
00:31:01
They do what they were doing.
00:31:03
But then, like the next three games, So 60 45 50 they were getting ready to face us in the first round, depressing.
00:31:12
I think he's my favorite player right now.
00:31:15
And then I think you know, not not to to old school, but I think I got to go.
00:31:21
I know this might offend you both because you're both Lakers fans.
00:31:24
But I think I got to go. Larry Bird.
00:31:26
I think he's a little bit under appreciated, Um, in and kind of how much he mentioned the MBA, Uh, being being that real wing who could shoot from anywhere.
00:31:36
He was a He was a really underrated passer.
00:31:39
Um, and you know, I think a lot of guys, he gets outshined by a lot of guys, and I'm not sure he deserves it that much.
00:31:47
That's because he played in the air with the greatest point guard of all time.
00:31:51
True, in the second greatest point guard of all times.
00:31:55
So that's that Bird Birds of Bad Boy made one of the greatest players of all time, whether he's the Celtic or not, Man.
00:32:03
Third, Bill Russell, two of the greatest players of all time in my book, I think, well, it's better than Bill Russell.
00:32:10
Still, despite the rings, well, you know Bill Russell did play with six Hall of Famers at one time, and that's ah, you know, that can't be understated.
00:32:20
So well, what will did that? That is just crazy special. Yep.
00:32:28
Open invitation.
00:32:29
Jason Kidd.
00:32:30
If we want the title this year, I'm sending you an email.
00:32:35
All right, but so I'm assuming everybody got Lakers waiting tonight.
00:32:39
Well, I got Lakers way tonight.
00:32:41
Obviously, um, Lakers need to close this out because they the Lakers and Clippers both finished the Siri's often six reminded the Clippers.
00:32:51
Get an extra day of rest opposed to the Lakers, so must win.
00:32:56
Game may be a stretch with Lakers.
00:32:58
I would love standing.
00:32:59
Finish off tonight.
00:33:00
Game five, Lakers.
00:33:02
Uh, Lakers Rockets.
00:33:04
Go watch that Now on ABC in essays Primetime will continue.
00:33:08
Hopefully shortly.
00:33:09
Thank you, Alex, For joining us today or tonight.
00:33:12
We really appreciate it.
00:33:13
And thank you for allowing security Crossover 3.
00:33:15
60.
00:33:16
Bobby, go check out all the great podcast a part of the network and some of the other people doing, uh, live streams on SportsCastr as well.
00:33:24
Thanks, man.
00:33:25
I appreciate you guys keep up.
00:33:26
The great work man is really dope.
00:33:27
What you guys are doing All right.
00:33:31
Thank you.
00:33:32
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Welcome back to sports headlines.
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Essays.
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Prime time is back, at least the pregame show.
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Welcome back on Sean Davis wrapping my Lakers tonight, joined by Warners, and we'll be joined by the founder across over 3 65.
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All what America is Lakers Central, Alex Holland or Hollings is the Holland I get.
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All right.
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Collinsworth, man, how's it going? Good.
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Thank you for having or thank you for joining Rather and really quickly, really quickly before we get started.
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I saw your tweet about the mama mentality, but how far you into the book, because I started not too long ago is well, I mean, like, 60 pages deep.
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Okay, I think I'm somewhere around like page 101 Man, I've had it for a while.
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When I every now and then I go in there and I read a few pages.
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And then I just happened to be downstairs.
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My wife, she was reading a book and I picked it up and just started going through it.
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Man, I figured tonight was a great time. Thio.
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They go ahead and open up Kobe's bookman and hopefully we get this win and close this thing out and get to the Western Conference finals.
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Yeah, give you as much rest as possible.
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The Clippers or a team.
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You don't want to get them rest, too.
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But let's get right into it here.
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So Game five tonight. Lakers Rockets.
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It's been a weird Siris of Game one.
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The Lakers.
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The Rockets beat the Lakers, uh, in Game one, and then the Lakers have looked dominant.
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Games 234 Alex, we could start with you on this one was what have you been most impressed about from the Lakers in this series so far? Their adjustments, man.
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I mean, Game one.
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The Rockets came out and beat us, right? And I.
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The Rockets were going to be a difficult matchup because their style of play is kind of unorthodox.
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The Lakers run to run three. Big three.
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Big lineup. The Lakers, the Rockets.
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Don't they run? Basically, anybody that 65 and smaller right? So I figured that they would be a difficulty, um, matchup.
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But since that that Game one, you know, vocals went to playing a team or at the five, even though Anthony Davis, if you notice when the game starts like the last game 80 is not listed as the center.
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Markieff is listed as the center, um, for whatever reason, but eighties playing more.
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Five.
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They were playing more marquee for You know, you're saying coups play a lot more.
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They're playing small.
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Well, small for the Lakers, right? I mean, are small, right? 86 10 Marquita 69 LeBron is 69 You know Casey ph 6465 Danny Greece, 67 So even when we go small, we're still significantly bigger than the Rockets.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I want to say kudos to Frank Vogel for finally finally realizing that finally reason that realizing that the two big lineup really three big line about you point out, uh, was not working at all.
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Um, but, you know, it's it's just a zoo said the adjustments that that air that are key.
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And in a series like this, I think there's gotta be a lot more to come, especially against the Clippers.
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Migrating, um, from a team like Houston to a team like the Clippers, and it's gonna be a big test for this Lakers team.
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Yeah, what's really impressed me in this Siri's is how the depth that really talked about and like, kind of been frustrated about.
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People say the Lakers have no death.
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Well, they kind of shut people up this Siri, especially Game four, where LeBron didn't need tohave.
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UH, what was his game threes down with 36 like, 11 or what? He didn't need to have that for them to win game point.
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It was a wider wire win, except that terrible fourth quarter by the Liquor's what Caruso pitch named 16 playoff Rondo is a real thing.
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If you've been living under a rock for the past seven years, he's a real thing.
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Um, Cal Koosman hasn't been terrific, but he still gives you quality minutes.
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Um, Danny Green and Casey.
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People like four from eight from three in Game four and then a d.
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Obviously doing his thing as well.
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So I love the way that everybody is like, really played well, this Siri's and they've they've had to, because Harden and Westbrook have are two of the better guards in the league, and they've done a great great job defensively after Game one.
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Adjusting to a LeBron would say the speed of the Rockets.
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Um, but yeah, that's all to Frank Vogel is you guys have already mentioned.
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I mean, like you said Man Rondo like So I'm not a I'm not a big fan of the playoff Rondo thing, but I will say this.
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Do this play well, since he came back from injury, he's been great, and you got to give credit where credit is due, man.
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And so shout out the Rondo.
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He's come back. He's controlled the pace.
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He's played well and honestly, you know, left you, said Warner.
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Vogel's adjustments, whether it be going to kind of a smaller lineup or trapping trapping, Ah, James Harden.
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The Rockets have had no idea what to do with the Lakers double teaming and trapping James hard.
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If they're complaining, you know, I see a lot of Rockets fans on Twitter complaining that the Lakers are double teaming him.
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Well, like, you know, I'm a huge Kobe fan, right? Like you don't just like Kobe go for 50.
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You didn't just like Jordan 50.
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I mean, you had to double team them.
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Now.
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The difference between James Harden and Kobe Bryant, Michael Jordan, is that Well, you know what? It's funny.
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Let me step back for a second.
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I was reading the mama mentality book, right? And Kobe talked about that three pointer he hit on the final.
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Siri's against Detroit.
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The only game that we won against Detroit? No, for we end up losing that Syria, but the one game we won, Kobe said.
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No matter what happened at the end of that game, he was going to get that last shot.
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He was gonna do whatever it took to get that shot.
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What you see, what you see in this Rocket syriza's that when James Harden gets double team, he passes the ball and he doesn't fight to get the ball back at all.
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Like he passes the ball off and then he kind of stands at the three point line.
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He just like, What do I do? He doesn't.
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I mean, if you're a great offensive player and Harden is a great offensive player, but if you're a good as like he thinks he is, you go get the ball back, man.
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But the Rockets have had no idea what to do with the Lakers trapping James Harden, and it's worked.
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And so I'm curious to see if the Rockets making adjustment tonight against the Lakers But so far the Lakers have just been too much.
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And one more point.
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I wanna make Anthony Davis guarding Russell Westbrook.
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That's crazy.
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And it's been effective.
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Like how many teams have a 6 10 guy that can garden explosive guard like That's crazy.
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Hey, Sean, remember when I mentioned something about Anthony Davis being the guy who had to stop Westbrook in the paint when we were talking about our recall? You saying that? Stop lying.
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Stop.
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Yeah, I definitely recall me saying that.
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I just want to point that out.
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A little bragging punch for me really quickly.
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We mentioned this on our episode two goes yesterday.
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Anthony Davis.
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They like to play nine games in the playoffs so far, 7 80 s head.
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At least 25 points and 10 rebounds.
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That's the most since Shock did it back in.
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04 so let's go to the other L A team really quickly.
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I almost died watching that Nuggets game last night.
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I hate watching the Nuggets play.
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They don't play defense and offense is all tough shots, but anyway, Alex, is there any real chance Denver wins Game six and we get a game seven, and even Denver potentially wins Game seven in the Clippers 50 year conference finals.
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I guess not going.
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Their streak continues.
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There's always a chance.
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I mean, Denver is a good team, you know? I'm saying like the Clippers screwed up last night because the Clippers behave like a franchise or like a team that's actually 1 16 champions.
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The Clippers act like the Lakers should act right like the Clippers run this whole campaign streetlights over spotlight.
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Yet they act like they won 16 championships and they have not.
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Right.
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So, you know, Marcus Morris get into it with, uh, with one of the players from Denver last night? Uh, yeah, Paul Millsap, You get to the park and then that kind of that kind of turned the game around right? And so Denver can get hot, man.
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I mean, even though they've been outclassed, this entire Siri's, um, Yokich has completely been better than than big zoo.
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Trez can't do anything with them.
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They can't do anything with Yoga is right.
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Murray has been a bit weak, this Siri's.
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But as we saw in the Utah, Siri's Murray could go over 40 or 52 or three games in a row.
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And then what? Right? We've also seen a Paul George.
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He could go really quiet for three or four games in a row also.
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So you don't want to get in a shootout with Denver? Um, look, I think the Clippers win this Siri's.
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But Denver has a shot.
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You know, I'm saying like the Clippers should have closed them out last night.
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Should be there by 20 last night for being honest, to not close them out.
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I mean, if Denver forces a Game seven gotta be nervous, the Clippers have to be nervous, man foreign, especially with that kind of lack of rest.
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I mean, it's good to get the action in, but you know, the Lakers there would be hot off beating the Rockets in at most six games of Houston takes the tonight's game.
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Um, and and you know they've got some rest.
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But it's not like they had, like, you know, they in the NFL.
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They bench their starters for weeks 17 and they got a first round bye.
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They haven't played in two weeks.
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These guys just played like, three or four days ago, and they're they're well rested.
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They're anxious.
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They they want to get into this Siri's.
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They want to show who is the better l A team.
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Really.
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Shut up the Clippers.
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As you said, the Clippers are acting like they've won, uh, multiple championships, 16 as you said, which they definitely haven't.
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And they have definitely been the smaller of the two l A teams for a long as they have existed.
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And I think that's kind of banging on a little bit of the Lakers nerves.
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And, you know, it's just, uh it's a detriment to them, um, their their death line.
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I really didn't play together in the regular season, which I think is hurting them a little bit in the playoffs.
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And once they, you know, play this well oiled Lakers team, um, in the comments finals, assuming they don't get beat by the Nuggets, then I think they're really gonna be in for in for something.
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Um, you know, I think everybody would say that the Lakers are much more well oiled, cohesive team than the Nuggets.
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They play smoother and just more cohesively, and I think that's that's gonna be a little bit of weakness for the Clippers.
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Look, man, one thing.
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One thing people overlook on the Clippers see me quite has been too multiple championships.
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Right? So who has been there? Everybody else? Yeah, e mean, Doc has been there, but Doc's teams have under achieved his Celtics teams that that Boston team acts like they won three in a row.
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They want one? Yeah, they behave like they won three in a row.
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They won one time His his lob City Clippers didn't win it all back.
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They didn't win one.
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They want they never got to the finals at all, right? So Doc Rivers teams has underachieved and then you look at the rest of that Clippers roster.
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Nobody else has been there.
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I mean, Paul George, certainly.
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You know, the Indiana Pacers battled LeBron and, you know, in in the Eastern Conference finals.
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But as we've seen in the playoffs, Paul George He gets really shaky in the playoffs, right in game situations.
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So if you get into a Game seven with Denver, it's a toss up man.
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Like you got quiet.
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And if you've got co, I look, you should be good to go, right? But do you really want to get in a shootout? with Denver in a Game seven.
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I don't know if you wanna wanna go down that route and thank you, Alex, because I look like the bad guy on her show constantly because I said, Alright, Paul George is not a top 20 player.
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He's not God, I think.
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E think he's a top 20 player.
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Okay, okay. Wait, wait, wait.
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Don't have my list on me If you don't mind.
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If you don't mind, I'm a read off 20 toe like 12 and if you disagree with anything, let me know.
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So let's start with 20.
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Rudy go Bare.
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19.
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Bradley Bill 18.
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This was before the playoffs before the playing games.
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18 Jayson Tatum 17 Chris Paul 16.
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Trae Young, 15.
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Clay Thompson, 14 Westbrook 13 Jimmy Buckets 12.
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Nicola Yokich 11 Kyrie 10 m b.
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Alright, So here I would say this one take play out because he's interested this season.
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Take I really because with injured most of the season, Westbrook, I'd say Paul George is better than Westbrook right now.
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Um, well, he had A and B and B.
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Certainly better, I'd say and be. It's a top 10 player.
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Um, Trey, I take Paul George Overtrained, man.
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I mean, trade. What Year? Year, too.
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I take Paul George betrayed, like in a play.
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If you're building a team like a decade out, you take Trey.
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But, like, right now, I think you take Paul George.
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But Paul George is the top 20 player man.
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I could probably make an argument. He stop.
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I was I I agree with you completely, Alex and I was smiling because Sean got got into it a little bit about Paul.
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George is playoff success because you guys were making him out to be like I wish is completely appalled, George Hayter.
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When we were we had interview with Sabrina Merchant from, uh, thing.
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It wasn't silver screen and roll.
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She also does stuff for explanation for the Clippers side.
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I just said that he has not played well in the playoffs since his earlier pacers.
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That right, thank you.
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But that doesn't.
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That doesn't mean that he is not a top 20.
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Put like sometimes guys just better is like number two than number one.
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Like he, he has the skill set to be number one.
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He just is not a number one.
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That's just the thing.
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You know what I'm saying, But his heart.
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I can't imagine to be 20 guys better than Paul George.
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Like he is a bad boy.
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Sean might not have felt it this year because of all the kind of clippers not liking the Clippers.
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Okay, Way using the bias joke.
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But K D is the second best player after a torn Achilles when he's healthy.
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But he's not going to be the same player after Achilles.
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Okay, whatever.
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Whatever.
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80 k d 80% is the top five player.
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I don't care what you're talking about.
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All right? Okay.
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A Okay, Katie.
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80% top top five player. Yes.
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Oh, no, my friend.
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80%.
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80%.
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80 player.
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Ah, healthy.
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Katie is a second best player in the NBA, Right, But at 80%.
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So let's say 80%.
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Katie.
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So you've got lebron you in any particular order, and I'm not saying in 125 just any particular order you've got.
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LeBron, you've got Johannes.
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You've got Katie, right? So I mean, LeBron Yannis and co wide those three automatics, right? Anthony Davis is top five.
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I think you can like toe.
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I had been at least eso Who else? Who else? We? Am I leaving out E.
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You gotta put stuff for Damian Lillard in their game.
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Top five. No game is not top five.
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Healthy step is top five.
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I think I e.
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I think Harden is top five.
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Also, like hard.
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Might be hard my playoff struggles.
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But Harden, you can't have a 38 points and not be a top five player like that's not.
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That's not, You know, I'm saying like that's not easy.
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So e don't have to say he's benefiting from the D'Antoni's system a little bit.
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I mean, he's lethal score, but I think his numbers might be slightly inflated.
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No, I agree with that part.
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I just 80 80% So 80% k d eso.
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Let's put it this way, man.
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We stole what Kobe looked like.
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Obviously, Kobe was later in his career, 57.
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At that point, I mean, he was year 17 when he tore his Achilles.
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But when Kobe tours Achilles, he was averaging 27 5 and five, and he was willing the Lakers to the playoffs.
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He had 12 game winners that year was killing it.
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He tours Achilles and he never looked the same.
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KB is 7 ft tall, like when a seven footer terraces.
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Achilles like DeMarcus cousins, cousins, one of the most skilled big man in the NBA has doesn't look the same.
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It's slightly different, actually.
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When buggy came back, he looks good.
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And then he towards Quad Z leads to other issues when you're that size.
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So it's not like Katie is like 66 where, you know, I'm saying like at six at 6 11 7 ft and I don't even think he played 50 games next year you're You're carrying more weight.
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You got me on you more and more, uh, from the injury re injury.
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Although Katie, it does have that polished game where you can shoot a three from 40 ft out.
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Or he can he can go ahead and post, arise somebody hateful people.
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He will be able to shoot over anybody.
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When he's 70 years old, he can shoot over anybody, but what makes him special ways he could shoot over you and get to the basket.
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And once your Achilles goes, you lose your ex some of your explosion.
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And if he loses his explosion, he has no way to top five player.
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I don't want to see what I hope Katie goes.
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Dropped 28 next year so I could look like this morning.
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He does freaking person on the planet.
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I hope he does that.
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But I'm a Katie fan, man. I hope.
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I hope he comes back healthy.
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I really do.
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But 80% Katie, top five.
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I mean, because where does that? Where do you put Luca? True Luca next year.
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I mean, if he keeps improving to this pace, Yeah, I mean, Luca next year, okay? And even if LeBron takes a slight dip, LeBron still top five.
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I don't see where Katie fits into that point.
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I think you're underestimating the severity oven.
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Achille. Sean, if it was Yes, yell.
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Okay.
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Hey.
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Might be just let Alex carry the whole argument.
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And that was like, Yep, that's absolutely right.
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I don't think your stop.
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I've been saying this stuff for a while, but it's time you hear it from a different mouth.
00:19:02
So you believe? Um, let's switch back to tonight's game of game five.
00:19:07
Lakers rockets.
00:19:08
Um What sort of Warner Warner Who would you say is the biggest X factor for both teams.
00:19:13
And I know Daniel House, as Warren has made very clear in our, uh, team E.
00:19:19
I swear.
00:19:20
I've just, like, kind of muted.
00:19:21
It's getting very I don't even know what the word is.
00:19:24
Well, wonder who's the biggest X factor for both teams tonight? I think if Daniel House was playing, you would definitely be House.
00:19:31
And I think the lack of houses really gonna affect Houston.
00:19:35
I've got to say their biggest X factors still gotta be James Harden, Even though, you know, he's kind of an obvious answer.
00:19:43
Like, why don't you pick somebody who's who has a little bit less of a role, See if they can step up? It's gonna fall on the shoulders of James Harden, as it does every every playoff year playoff Siris for the Rockets.
00:19:56
And if he doesn't perform, um to you know, his 30 35 points and still making you know, good good passes, not turning the ball over and maybe creating a few turnovers himself, then I think the Rockets have a really good shot to win this game.
00:20:15
But Harden, um, you know, let's let's the Lakers kind of trap him.
00:20:21
Doesn't fight for the ball back.
00:20:23
Um, then then you know they're gonna be able to limit him in some way.
00:20:27
And while he might score 30 points, it's still gonna be a different game.
00:20:31
Um, that the Rockets are trying to play, and they're gonna be playing from behind all night.
00:20:36
What about from the Lakers side of things? Um, from the Lakers? I think it's gotta be.
00:20:42
I think it's gotta be Danny Green.
00:20:43
We've seen KCP and Green both kind of turn, turn tides, Um, after, you know, not shooting and then missing all the shots.
00:20:51
Now they're starting to hit those shots that were taken.
00:20:54
Um, I think it's gonna be, you know, if one of those two can really, um, you know, catch fire.
00:21:00
I think the Lakers would run away with this game, even if Harden really, you know, plays like regular season harden.
00:21:09
Well, that won't happen because it's the playoffs. I'm joking.
00:21:12
Go ahead, Alex.
00:21:14
Eso for the Rockets, man.
00:21:15
I agree with one.
00:21:16
I think Harden needs to step up like he he needs some help.
00:21:19
The other guys need to hit some shots, but unfortunately, with the NBA comes down to the superstars and either the superstar carries the team or he's the one that gets bashed.
00:21:30
If they lose, I think it comes down to harden on the Laker side.
00:21:34
Um, the The X factor is the Lakers bench.
00:21:37
LeBron and Anthony Davis.
00:21:38
They're gonna be LeBron Anthony Davis.
00:21:40
They've shown off Syria's Houston can't do anything with them.
00:21:42
Um, but there's not one player on the Lakers bench for me that needs to be better than the rest of the bench players.
00:21:49
But what you did see, you've seen Marcus, Mark, Keith. More. Step up.
00:21:53
You've seen Alex Caruso have a good game.
00:21:55
You've seen Rondo have a great game like they're They're kind of doing it as a committee.
00:22:00
And this is a game where the bench, you know, the role players, so to speak, me to come out and hit some shots play defense.
00:22:08
Because last game, Houston was like shell shocked.
00:22:12
They were demoralized.
00:22:13
They were sulking like they looked like they wanted to go home, and the Lakers need to get need to come out with that same intensity tonight and wrap this thing up early on, knock him out.
00:22:23
But I want to see the benches some shots.
00:22:24
I don't want to see LeBron have to play 40 minutes.
00:22:27
Have to come back in like he did the other night when when the game kinda got away from the Lakers and Houston kind of went on a run.
00:22:33
I want to see the bench step up.
00:22:36
Yeah, from from the rocket side things you guys both said hardened.
00:22:40
Someone tryto divert from that.
00:22:42
Pick somebody differently.
00:22:43
Here, Um, I think there's a couple of options Robert Covington has to step up, I think, to give Harden some support.
00:22:52
He played big time in that thunder.
00:22:54
Siri's.
00:22:55
Can he do that tonight? Eric Gordon is another guy.
00:22:58
He will get myself.
00:22:59
Is that game, too? I think the Lakers were out big, and in that third quarter it was the Eric Gordon Show, late night with Eric Gordon in the bubble, and he really kept them in that game.
00:23:09
Lakers did eventually pulled away, but was really Eric Gordon.
00:23:12
They kept him in that and Ken Russell Westbrook look like he's a superstar.
00:23:17
Players still, and I've said on numerous occasions that is not hardened.
00:23:21
It's rust that benefits from this five out isolation ball the most because if Harden drives gets double teamed and Russ is right there, he's going to get the ball on the catch and he's driving towards the room and it's either a kick out on the corner or it's a dunk or Russell Westbrook.
00:23:38
So, um, can rust like a superstar tonight and for the Lakers side of things.
00:23:44
Um e think kcp maybe kcp the Danny Green's.
00:23:49
I guess I kind of agree with Alexa's well here.
00:23:52
Um, you know what? Lebron's canoe while the way LeBron and close out games? Um, they're 14 and won their last 15 close out games, and he's averaged 29 9 and eight in those close out games.
00:24:06
So we know what LeBron's gonna dio.
00:24:08
We know what 80 has been doing in this playoffs.
00:24:10
It's everybody else.
00:24:12
What are they gonna need? Toe closes out and give them and at least an extra day arrests opposed to the Clippers? So what do you guys corporations? Mhm.
00:24:25
Yeah, I don't know, man.
00:24:28
It's weird because, you know, the game could kind of be high scoring.
00:24:30
Or it could be low just depending on the shooting.
00:24:33
Um e mean I think both teams break 100.
00:24:36
Um, but over to 16.
00:24:38
5? Oh, I'd say, Oh, man, I'd say I'd say over.
00:24:47
I think I think over over by a lot over.
00:24:53
It's personally Houston's wants to win over.
00:24:56
I don't think Houston is gonna win. I think it's gonna be over.
00:24:59
But not by that much.
00:25:00
Maybe 8 to 10 points.
00:25:02
Um, yeah.
00:25:03
I think the Lakers gonna take this one in advance to the Western Conference finals just the way that they've kind of handled the Rockets these last four games or three games.
00:25:12
Just, you know, the Rockets have to show me otherwise.
00:25:17
If the Lakers can get out to a double digit lead in the third and maybe take that to the poor.
00:25:21
I mean, at that point, the Rockets will pull their starters and the game will be over.
00:25:25
So, um, that's that's That's what I hope happens.
00:25:28
I don't want, you know, I want the Lakers to win under every cir***stance, but I want them to blow them out and get this thing over with.
00:25:37
Yeah, one of the final questions.
00:25:40
Rather so in the East, the Eastern Conference finals matchup it's set for that.
00:25:46
He and the Celtic men wanna.
00:25:47
We're talking about it.
00:25:48
Pregame are free.
00:25:51
This? Yeah.
00:25:52
Um, pregame.
00:25:53
Pretty pregame.
00:25:54
Um, who would you rather face out of the Celtics in the heat? They're both tough matchups and schematically.
00:26:01
I know who I would rather face, but who would you rather face in that? Siri's if there's a Lakers fan, I mean, just as a as a fan man.
00:26:10
Boston L a Celtics Lakers.
00:26:13
I mean, that's the NBA would probably love that, you know? So I'd say that, um, we beat the heat.
00:26:23
We beat Boston this year.
00:26:24
Both teams are gonna be tough, no matter what.
00:26:26
I mean, they both play defense.
00:26:27
They both have athletic wings, their shooters there that I think Boston and the heater going to be in a dogfight.
00:26:34
Um, I could see that Syria's going six or seven games.
00:26:39
Um, but it just as a fan.
00:26:43
And I don't like Boston at all.
00:26:44
I'd like to see him get bounced out.
00:26:45
But I love Jason Tatum.
00:26:47
I hate the Celtics.
00:26:48
Yeah, I think of my historical perspective.
00:26:50
I think that the MBA would love to see a Boston, you know.
00:26:53
Ah, Celtics, Lakers finals.
00:26:55
Yeah, um, for me, it's also gotta be Boston.
00:26:59
But for the Lakers have gone through probably the most dangerous eighth seed in MBA history to the Rockets, with do of harder than Westbrook Thio going through potentially the Clippers.
00:27:11
And then they get ring number 17 for Kobe, beating LeBron's greatest rival ever and the Lakers greatest rival ever.
00:27:20
To get number 17.
00:27:21
That's got to be Boston.
00:27:24
Yeah, I think that might shut up Warren a little bit on LeBron had an easy path to the finals, too, but for my pick, um, as a fan and as somebody who you know, watches the N b A and enjoy doing it, I gotta say Boston, just because you said the historical precedent.
00:27:41
Um, But if I'm the Lakers, I want to face the heat.
00:27:44
And there's really one reason why I think a D can have more of an impact against bam than he can against Thais and Bam bam plays a larger role is what I'm saying in in the heat.
00:27:57
Then Thais does in the Celtics and also the heat don't have as many guys that can, you know, create and dropped 25 off the dribble any given night like the Celtics do.
00:28:06
Um, I will say, I will say this, however, wouldn't it? Wouldn't it be the perfect end to the season to see a team like the Heat? You just went all in and win. Now, mode.
00:28:19
Come in In this competitive, um, you know, season, you have LeBron coming back from injury with the Lakers not making the playoffs last year.
00:28:27
No real super team.
00:28:29
Um, you've got a bunch of star a bunch of teams with two stars, and I think it would just It would be a classic way to end the season and tough down to the wire. Seven game.
00:28:41
Siri's maybe a few overtimes in those seven games.
00:28:43
And I think either way, either team that we get is gonna be a great end of the season.
00:28:50
Yeah, the heat, the heat.
00:28:51
They've done a great job this year, man.
00:28:52
And you've still got the LeBron Miami connection because he used to play there.
00:28:56
Pat Riley used to coach the Lakers.
00:28:58
You know it.
00:28:59
Whatever happens if the Lakers make it to the finals.
00:29:02
Um, it'll be a phenomenal story for the MBA.
00:29:08
Yeah, Yeah, I'm looking forward to that Eastern Conference finals.
00:29:13
Much I make the tab ITM or the Lakers Clippers because I knew Lakers Clippers was coming and I think spo the fact that he wasn't a finalist for Coach of the Year's disrespectful as ever.
00:29:24
He's yes, just disrespectful.
00:29:27
Um, we're gonna do flip the table we haven't done in a wall.
00:29:31
Eso wanted to explain what book the table lists as we close the S H pregame show.
00:29:36
Yeah, so basically, whoever we have on the show can ask Sean or myself for both of us.
00:29:42
Any question? Really? It could be about the show.
00:29:45
It could be about sports.
00:29:46
It could be about personal life.
00:29:48
Eso go ahead and put the table for us.
00:29:50
Warner typically tries toe flip his table and normally fails miserably just for reference.
00:29:55
I don't I don't want to mess up the set up, man. That's that'll.
00:29:58
Take a while to get back together.
00:30:00
Yeah, I'll ask you guys, man.
00:30:02
Well, uh, in both of you, just historically, who's your favorite basketball player of all time? I think LeBron the generic and survival go to my favorite player.
00:30:14
Besides LeBron Chris, Paul, outside of LeBron Chris, Paul's the guy that got me in the basketball just watching how he controlled the game in his prime and got everybody involved offensively then.
00:30:27
His prime, uh, constant All MBA defender, all n b A defensive team player.
00:30:33
So Chris Paul, one of my favorite players of all time, probably my second favorite player of all time a lot.
00:30:39
Shaun's more in to basketball than I am.
00:30:41
I'm going to preface that by saying by saying that, um, I think my favorite player right now is probably Damian Lillard.
00:30:48
I just love the way he plays the competitive fire he has, um, and especially a little banter he had with the Clippers.
00:30:54
That was That was amazing.
00:30:56
Um, when you missed the free throws and I was so worried, I was like Dagget, Clippers.
00:31:01
They do what they were doing.
00:31:03
But then, like the next three games, So 60 45 50 they were getting ready to face us in the first round, depressing.
00:31:12
I think he's my favorite player right now.
00:31:15
And then I think you know, not not to to old school, but I think I got to go.
00:31:21
I know this might offend you both because you're both Lakers fans.
00:31:24
But I think I got to go. Larry Bird.
00:31:26
I think he's a little bit under appreciated, Um, in and kind of how much he mentioned the MBA, Uh, being being that real wing who could shoot from anywhere.
00:31:36
He was a He was a really underrated passer.
00:31:39
Um, and you know, I think a lot of guys, he gets outshined by a lot of guys, and I'm not sure he deserves it that much.
00:31:47
That's because he played in the air with the greatest point guard of all time.
00:31:51
True, in the second greatest point guard of all times.
00:31:55
So that's that Bird Birds of Bad Boy made one of the greatest players of all time, whether he's the Celtic or not, Man.
00:32:03
Third, Bill Russell, two of the greatest players of all time in my book, I think, well, it's better than Bill Russell.
00:32:10
Still, despite the rings, well, you know Bill Russell did play with six Hall of Famers at one time, and that's ah, you know, that can't be understated.
00:32:20
So well, what will did that? That is just crazy special. Yep.
00:32:28
Open invitation.
00:32:29
Jason Kidd.
00:32:30
If we want the title this year, I'm sending you an email.
00:32:35
All right, but so I'm assuming everybody got Lakers waiting tonight.
00:32:39
Well, I got Lakers way tonight.
00:32:41
Obviously, um, Lakers need to close this out because they the Lakers and Clippers both finished the Siri's often six reminded the Clippers.
00:32:51
Get an extra day of rest opposed to the Lakers, so must win.
00:32:56
Game may be a stretch with Lakers.
00:32:58
I would love standing.
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Finish off tonight.
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Game five, Lakers.
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Uh, Lakers Rockets.
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Go watch that Now on ABC in essays Primetime will continue.
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Hopefully shortly.
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Thank you, Alex, For joining us today or tonight.
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We really appreciate it.
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60.
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Thanks, man.
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I appreciate you guys keep up.
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The great work man is really dope.
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What you guys are doing All right.
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