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00:00:06
And with that we welcome back once again a SportsCastr nuestros always on Madam are back joined by that Brooks who just had the biggest cup of coffee I've ever seen in my life.
00:00:16
That is, guys.
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Caffeine aiding up on Ah, Friday is the weekend, By the way.
00:00:21
It's Labor Day weekend, I think.
00:00:23
Right? Does that make that to Ah, is it? I wouldn't know I could be.
00:00:28
That's what it could be.
00:00:29
Could be September.
00:00:30
It could also be the middle of June.
00:00:31
I would have no concept of tie it all current conditions.
00:00:35
We come in on on on a good one, man.
00:00:38
Ah, for let's start, we'll start with the play.
00:00:41
This game is tight.
00:00:42
The Toronto Raptors air down.
00:00:43
Oh, to basically their season is on the line.
00:00:46
They bring in taco falters.
00:00:47
To put it in the disparity, disparity and height between kind Hilarion.
00:00:52
Taco fall has to be the biggest margin going back to Muggsy Bogues probably.
00:00:55
Um, break demand is what you see on that play.
00:00:58
Arguably one of the best passes from an out of bounds play that I've ever seen executed in play a recent playoff memory.
00:01:04
Yeah, I feel like I kind of underrated the past.
00:01:07
It's like I was like, Wow, I think I was the best past the playoffs And then the more I think about it, I'm like, That's like one of the better passes I've ever seen.
00:01:14
Like it was like the more you look at, how far it one now high it went just to get over Taco, fall and fertile land like right, Like he literally had to just stand there and it went perfectly in his hands.
00:01:25
Like I I just don't know if there I've seen.
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I mean, there have been better passes.
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I'm like, I'm sure in N b A history, but in terms of like just, I don't know, like things that I watched more and more.
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I've just I've never had a play where the more I watch it, the more I appreciate it, You know what I mean? Like, it just happened so quickly in the moment that I kind of was just like, I don't really even know.
00:01:47
It just happened like it was funny.
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Teoh, um, prettier passes right? There's always those beautiful palate.
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It wasn't like some type of, you know, amazing Orrick or whatever it was, it didn't look like he was gonna make it like I saw it like it was like I was like, Oh, that actually laid it in his hands like it just was It was a just like the arc of it, I guess was so dramatic that I think in a way that kind of added to the suspense and a lot of ways, Well, something weird about it, too, because I think I was lulled into a sense of right with all the 0.5 on the clock.
00:02:17
So you just like, Okay, this is formality of going down.
00:02:19
03 Here They talked about Taco Fall checking in and you normally don't like you very rarely see Ah, pass.
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Even we talked like a three quarter courts pass Or just, you know, long distance passes where a defender doesn't end up in between it because it's just the nature, like it's too far.
00:02:34
A player can see it in a just now in the postgame.
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Most of the Boston Celtics player, I think he was Jaylen, Brown said.
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Like that's just a mistake.
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Like we just blew an assignment.
00:02:42
We weren't communicating like that's it.
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Nothing more there.
00:02:45
That's fine. That probably is the case.
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Boy.
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The next thought that I immediately had was you threw it into the an OBE like you.
00:02:53
You went to him and in terms of of looking at the Raptors and saying Boys see aacm obviously some growing pains here taking on the number one prominent role, that shooting nights for a lot of guys on the Raptors.
00:03:06
I wonder if maybe this is a nice growth spot for Ogi to say.
00:03:10
Like, Hey, you may end up needing to be a bigger proponent of what this team is going forward if we're going to maintain this level of High Eastern Conference competitiveness because see aacm while he may get there.
00:03:22
But he's clearly not there yet.
00:03:25
Yeah, I That Siachen thing has been kind of startling.
00:03:28
He just, like, doesn't have ah, first option offensive game like I'm like, I'm pretty much their like.
00:03:37
I'm sure he can improve in certain ways and, like, added certain things, I think part of it he just looked really out of his element like he hasn't been using his speed at all.
00:03:45
I you know what? It feels weird to like criticize, nurse and like, maybe this is wrong to do this, but I don't know if they use him in the way I would like.
00:03:52
I would use some a little bit more, is like a pick and roll ball handler and do a little bit more.
00:03:57
I mean, like, even the bucks don't do that. Enough with the honest.
00:04:00
I might give you honest a scream like give him a little bit of room.
00:04:03
Um, I would feel the same way about SIAC, Um, a little bit, like get him downhill a little bit, get his defiant like defender behind the place.
00:04:10
So you're putting the, I guess, big man defender who's usually getting drawn away from the basket like put that guy in trouble.
00:04:17
So he has to guard Sockem.
00:04:19
Going downhill is one of the fastest players in the league, along with the guy that setting the screen.
00:04:24
So I think that he's kind of been difficult to watch because he doesn't have a much of an offensive game outside of being fast and that little spin move that he loves to do.
00:04:33
And I know he's been really impressive, like he just like he's just so big.
00:04:38
He's just so big and so strong, and I wish he could dribble.
00:04:42
That's my one problem right now.
00:04:43
Like there was a possession where he took it up in transition.
00:04:46
All the requisite about being a basketball player.
00:04:49
You gotta shoot.
00:04:50
Yeah, God dribble.
00:04:53
I mean, and that's had a common for players his age.
00:04:56
Like you look at the two guys on the other side of the court like Jaylen Brown really couldn't Tripoli.
00:05:01
Two years like you just couldn't dribble at all.
00:05:03
And even Jayson Tatum last year.
00:05:05
His handle was pretty loose and like, you see, like what? It and I'll be honest.
00:05:09
Like, I think a lot of times, one of the easiest things to sharpen up is a handle like That's if you're gonna be missing anything.
00:05:15
That's the one I want you to be missing.
00:05:17
He's out the jump shot.
00:05:18
He's got the physicality.
00:05:20
That's a huge gift in itself.
00:05:22
The defense of shops are totally there.
00:05:24
Yeah, that guy has been awesome in this year's I mean, if I'm Toronto, I'm coming away.
00:05:29
No matter what the result is, Um I mean, obviously what advance? But I'm coming away feeling really good about this, an OBE think like he's been just a really bright spot for them.
00:05:38
And, um, I I mean, part of me looks at him like, Is that the guy you build around? Like I just haven't felt that way until the Siri's? Well, it's interesting, too, because so the thing you mentioned about Siachen there, um, and how maybe nurse to be utilizing and better unlike and not that they don't have.
00:05:55
You have Hill there in Milwaukee.
00:05:56
You have.
00:05:57
You have players there, the guard positions.
00:05:58
But unlike Milwaukee because Toronto within fleeting Lowry, it's like, Hey, these air two of our better guy.
00:06:06
Like you know, these are the guys that need to depend on here and have success.
00:06:09
Maybe that makes it a little bit more difficult to put Siachen into that kind of role, although to your point it seems like then a van fleet or allow it would benefit from being able to await.
00:06:20
Like they're both good three point shooters.
00:06:21
They both like to work on the printer.
00:06:22
So if you allowed Siachen to draw and then, you know, have those perimeter looks be a little bit easier to come by because we've seen, especially in the first two games of this series, where Lowry and Van Fleet have been having difficulty getting their shot off on the perimeter because they are naturally undersized and Boston matches up well, they play sound evidence.
00:06:40
You have Marcus Smart.
00:06:41
So having being able to do less work and still get those still get those looks from the outside would be a nice bonus for as a fringe benefit off of Siachen game.
00:06:51
Yeah, I think one of the interesting things for them is like I don't know what was going on, but they were just running high screens up like they weren't doing anything too crazy in terms of getting back into that game.
00:07:02
They were just running high screens for, uh, Kyle Lowry and Fred Vanvleet.
00:07:08
I think that's I mean, I kind of want to re watch the fourth quarter that I You know why I love I almost like love rewatching games more than watch black now, but I don't know something about what they were doing, like giving those guys open looks over and over and over.
00:07:23
It was weird that Boston wasn't defending the high screen as well, just like it might have been a nice thing just him dropping back into the pain a little bit.
00:07:31
But I want to say they figured out a couple of things in yesterday's game.
00:07:36
Tentatively, well, it also cause again first two games.
00:07:39
They were having bad shooting nights from the perimeter.
00:07:41
So if you're Boston, you say all right, like what will keep you know? We'll prove it.
00:07:45
Prove prove that you've found your rhythm again and that's fine.
00:07:49
And then I wonder, too.
00:07:50
It's like, This is funny, like Nick Nurse, coach of the year.
00:07:52
Ah, but I wonder if it's also like he's also looking and saying, I don't know if I anticipate, like, I didn't anticipate this from Siachen, like having these struggles.
00:08:00
So, you know, I have a lot of I make a lot of adjustments, Yeah, but I don't really have an adjustment for who I think is our best player not being able to carry the load.
00:08:09
And then the other thing for trial to is, you know, Gasol and we talked about Ibaka the other day.
00:08:15
He looks like a little bit step slow.
00:08:16
It's just this is a to your point about Oh, gee of like, hey, maybe he He's one of the guys you build around.
00:08:22
I wonder, what do they do this offseason? Are you Are you looking to retain Van Flee? Are you gonna live with Kyle Lowry over the last few years of his career? Because you know what? Drop off is gonna come there at some point.
00:08:33
This team and you said the other day about sits of the since that's our speculation about the honest, But he's going to Toronto.
00:08:39
But like in this off season, regardless of what happens because I I would say I don't I don't see Toronto making it out of maybe not this serious and certainly not the Eastern Conference.
00:08:51
It seems like maybe if some holes here that have been exposed like Gasol, Ibaka Van Fleet, like there's a lot of quote key pieces that could just be gone from this roster, So they're gonna have to rebuild it in some way.
00:09:03
And I wonder how much they're gonna be able to find in free agency to feel comfortable enough coming into next year and saying we're still a top three or top four seed in the Eastern conference.
00:09:11
Yeah, it'll be really interesting.
00:09:13
Like I I think I would retain Van Fleet, but because I just like, but I don't know, they could go a lot of different ways.
00:09:20
Like, do they want to get rid of SIAC? Um, like, I've thought about that.
00:09:24
I'm like, Do you like, if you're gonna keep SIAC, um, or if you're gonna go for Johannes, it doesn't really make it on a sense to have SIAC.
00:09:31
Um And you honest, like so why wouldn't you just get the better Seahawk? Um and yeah, it's like in a lot of ways.
00:09:37
So I I'm interested to see I could see them really shaking it up.
00:09:41
I would get rid of both of Gasol and Ibaka.
00:09:44
I've been I know there's like, Yeah, and on our side of the world way have brought up the nets and I have been really good about it, but I'm doing it right now.
00:09:51
Um, uh, people in the next world have been saying Oh, like Serge Ibaka to the nets.
00:09:56
And first up? Yes, like that.
00:09:58
Fine.
00:09:59
If you want to bring him is like a backup center or something like that.
00:10:00
Still one of the better backups in the week.
00:10:04
It's been revealing toe.
00:10:05
Watch him play defense against this Celtics team and you're gonna have to go through.
00:10:09
That might think next year, and it's just he's just a step slow.
00:10:13
I just and I can't get over it in a lot of ways.
00:10:16
So I think I would move on from him if I was Toronto.
00:10:20
I would definitely move on from Missile.
00:10:22
I mean, if payback is a step slow, I like I love Marcus all my goodness, like it's been.
00:10:28
I think they have to place the do***ent, the five, like that's I think that's the adjustment I would make is like start leaning into that a little bit more.
00:10:35
Just try to play speed for speed.
00:10:37
You might be playing into Boston's hands, but you at least have to, like, think about it, Um, and then with Lowry, he's got one more year on his deal.
00:10:45
Might as well keep him around.
00:10:46
I would just get in quick.
00:10:47
That's that's what I would do.
00:10:48
I like him and I think he's He's a guy.
00:10:52
He has changed my my perception of whatever my opinion of him has evolved very much over his over his career because it just it felt like, How could you possibly catch, you know, not the same player, but no other Lowry and Toronto like, How could you have another undersized guard and they get it done? So I'm actually you say I'm a much higher on him and retaining him.
00:11:11
Knowing the age of Lowry makes sense, because you can keep carrying that over what you talk about Gasol and working like in the high pick and rolls and as he tries to roll to the basket on those switches and then seeing him almost basically block out his own guard from the help defend against shooters like Yeah, that feels like that has to roll over for them.
00:11:28
It's weird.
00:11:29
It's weird.
00:11:30
The playoffs change perceptions, and I feel like we talked about not overreacting to things too much.
00:11:34
But I probably already had this opinion going into its Romano.
00:11:38
They need to make a tweet, but they look like they're getting the other.
00:11:41
They're falling down the hierarchy very quickly and this offseason, whoever you're gonna pursue, if you don't bring in a pretty exciting name doesn't have to be honest.
00:11:52
But It has to be a pretty high level player to change how Siachen can play and play off of someone else.
00:11:58
I'll have ah have very interesting perspectives on them going into next season.
00:12:02
I feel like they could very quickly start to tumble down where you have an fleeting Lowry.
00:12:07
And it's.
00:12:08
But I guess Ogi, though, is a big factor in that to write like development, reception to And maybe you're just a better big.
00:12:14
Maybe you're born athletic, big away from being ****d back in contention next year again.
00:12:18
You know, I thought about this just now.
00:12:20
Well, so first up, they have no right side normal.
00:12:23
Well, I was thinking our guy Jared Allen, if you want to do a sign and trade for Serge Ibaka who? Well, God, But I would hate that from the Nets standpoint, I really I kind of like I Here's the thing.
00:12:35
So they they I don't think you can make us to choose the perimeter.
00:12:41
Three shoots the three.
00:12:42
He's kind of I gotta I gotta walk that back.
00:12:44
I wouldn't hate it.
00:12:45
I would hate it from the standpoint of and I have to I have a hard time with this from a Nets perspective of adjusting my mentality of we're in win now mode.
00:12:53
So you trade away a really young player and you bring in an aging veteran who, you know only has a couple of good years.
00:12:58
But that's exactly you know, you need a couple of good years, and if you have one good year out of Ibaka, you know, it might be worth I see.
00:13:04
Like that's that I don't know, like you put like Jared Allen in ah, in Nurses System and you start having him like, in a little more comfortable on the perimeter kind allows you to build a little bit younger because I think what they're gonna do is they're gonna try to do what, the Miami Heat, where it's like you grab all these young pieces and then you just kind of it's like you never really bought him out.
00:13:27
I think that's what they're gonna do.
00:13:29
It's what it feels like.
00:13:30
They just have one too many guys.
00:13:31
It's like we just we can't quite tank like we're just, you know, one too many professionals here.
00:13:37
Um, it is not a bad thing to have by the way, So I'd expect, like maybe a couple of 6/7 seed finishes.
00:13:45
Now you're playing a dangerous game because you can get stuck in that six or seven spot.
00:13:51
But I do think that they have an exit strategy or they are at least planning to have an exit strategy kind of magic about Yeah, it's kind of living living out of the air, just a poorly run franchise.
00:14:03
Like I'm not like the Raptors are really well run.
00:14:07
And they're gonna look for certain things now whether that materializes to another championship, I don't know, but I'd expect them to kind of roll it over just as long as messiahs there.
00:14:15
They're just gonna be there going to be doing this forever.
00:14:17
They've been doing this since they traded Rudy Gay.
00:14:19
Like, yeah, powers are bigger.
00:14:22
It out one 100% their birth east.
00:14:28
Yeah, and they do such a certain franchises just do this better.
00:14:32
I mean, and even even talk about like we were saying the other day about where local depot may go for the Pacers and whatever, but they find T.
00:14:38
J.
00:14:39
Warren, and you know what? A contract dump and you just start to realize some franchises, whatever the net result are.
00:14:43
And obviously they've already won a championship with quite last year.
00:14:46
But they're always gonna be a respectable and well run Frank.
00:14:49
That's the difference.
00:14:50
The difference of being a 1909 10 C and trying to sc**** for the spot versus being a 567 seed and always being in the mix is just being well run and scouting effectively and getting making the right decisions of free agency, not overspending, not getting something with big contracts like That's how you end up staying in that that hierarchy of of a decent team that maybe can draft into occasionally ah, bit of, ah, higher run.
00:15:12
So I mean, listen, if God, if they got, the more I think about Johannes not wanting to be in a big market, he's a quiet guy, like I don't know if if the swap over to Toronto makes a ton of sense, I know there's the tide of the GM.
00:15:25
They're feeling more comfortable in that regard and be very interesting to see how how Milwaukee comes out of that looking and you know what, how, and have the Eastern Conference look if you are not going anywhere.
00:15:37
Milwaukee.
00:15:38
You want to talk about a team meeting on a different foot? That team gets very weird very quickly.
00:15:42
If they if they lose Johannes with Bud and not feeling great about something, his coaching decisions that he's made along the way, like all of a sudden, that kind of falls apart, very fired.
00:15:52
If they lose this Siri's to be completely honest, that's not even a hot taken this point.
00:15:56
But, like I really dio like you, it's gonna It's gonna be like, quick to I just get that feeling.
00:16:02
It's like losing in the second round with a guy that's a free agent and you're playing him 30 minutes.
00:16:08
I mean, have you ever Did you see the pressers? He's given the last couple of days where he's like, I'm just gonna do what the coach tells me.
00:16:13
Dio who, like one of the first times, were like we're like, Yeah, we're Dionysus commentary.
00:16:19
Oh boy, like you haven't heard anything that would make you think that he's leaving their culpability, likes it.
00:16:26
Why did you ask me that? I just do the coaches.
00:16:28
You're like, Oh, so first thing that happens but is gone.
00:16:32
He try and you go.
00:16:33
Listen, we're bringing who you want, who you want however you want, and then you end.
00:16:36
It may be walking to that classic.
00:16:37
We bring in a coach.
00:16:38
And then Yana says, You have still got that.
00:16:40
Yeah, because my weight started.
00:16:41
I'll go play for the coach of the year interest in Toronto, you know, just starting to feel obvious.
00:16:46
It's like if he wants I mean, just look at the teams that he's rumored to go toe like OK, so you're you want to go play for one of the three best coaches? By the way, I think the three best coaches right now are in the East's 234 spots.
00:17:02
That sure seems like that's where all of the coaching is right now.
00:17:06
So, um, yeah, like I That's kind of what it seems like.
00:17:10
I like Think that sound like Doc.
00:17:12
Like I said, a dock, obviously, like I have less, but I have Doc like it's here.
00:17:16
I actually so I kind of want to, like, sit down and try to make a list of coaches this and just, you know, like it just in terms of like, still obviously high level guy like I don't look at the Lakers and go, Well, that's about coaching.
00:17:27
Yeah, I think that Doc still impacts.
00:17:29
You know, the game e.
00:17:30
I think that he's important relative to what to do, and I and maybe I'm hanging my hat a little bit on the surprise.
00:17:35
That was the L A Clippers.
00:17:36
Going back a handful years with 42 40 and making the playoffs, and you're beating expectations.
00:17:41
But rig rows of any of that Brad Stevens, Nick Nurse.
00:17:45
You're clearly that that and then Spoelstra, you're saying that in Miami, clearly, you're very heavily weighted in terms of quality quality coaches in the Eastern Conference.
00:17:55
You probably right, And obviously the bash, you know, obviously, yeah, curve, maybe throw him in the mix.
00:18:01
Uh, I don't know, like I really m fascinated.
00:18:04
Sit down and try to do that.
00:18:06
It's funny to cause it's got me thinking is because any of these other teams like Miami exceeding expectations.
00:18:13
And you you have butler.
00:18:14
But you're not laden with stars and young talent.
00:18:17
Same thing for Toronto and same thing for Boston, right? Like it's like Boston I mean Tatum ascending.
00:18:21
But every time you talk about even Toronto pre Coli and post, you go well, it's about the sum of the parts, and it's how we coach and it's how we execute.
00:18:28
That's really what makes you look at them and say they're one of the better teams in the Eastern Conference or in the MBA overall and likewise for Spoelstra.
00:18:35
Whereas Doc Rivers or any the Lakers, any of those teams you go, well, it could be a both.
00:18:40
And, you know, it could be predicated on having two of the best top 10 players in the league on your roster.
00:18:45
Doesn't hurt your chances of having success.
00:18:49
Yeah, uh, I kind of like Vogel, but, um, I think he's are you couldn't think his name.
00:18:55
Yeah, I like him a little bit more, I think, than the average person I dock has been better.
00:19:01
I was like, the first couple of games, always like I don't know, like this is this Clippers team is we're here and, like, they just all I think we talked about it quite a bit.
00:19:11
I was just like cold on those, like I don't know what these rotations are.
00:19:14
I don't know why Landry Sham.
00:19:16
It's being used like this.
00:19:17
I don't know why.
00:19:18
Zoo watches and playing.
00:19:19
He seems like he's kind of eased into that.
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Uh, Doc is stock is a really good coach, like, really, really good.
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But I mean, the reason I bring up all these coaches just re honest is I just I don't know, just those teams were so specific to come out, and I just It's It's not a coincidence that it's two of the best coach teams in the league, right, Like there's no right.
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I just have to think that like, I don't know, and maybe it is just like he the markets appealed to him, and I do think the Messiah thing plays into it, but I don't know.
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I mean, that's been the biggest thing missing for Milwaukee, and that's what those two teams provide.
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Yeah, and if you're a young plan, by the way like I always say this, it's like you Honest is still young.
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His game can still evolve.
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He can still become whatever.
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Yeah, but he's 25 right? Like if you're him and now you go, OK, so I haven't I haven't been there yet having been to the finals yet.
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I'm in my mid twenties.
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I don't know if this team is going to get there.
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I see Brooklyn's coming.
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You know, I see the Miami Heat or getting whatever.
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I see how everything's moving around me like I could be a contract from now in Milwaukee, having never made it to the finals at 28 29 years old, or however you know two or three years or whatever it is extended signing center there.
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I could be staring down just not having had gotten that first championship and regards.
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You have any guarantees around it.
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But to your point of boy Miami, they've been one of the most consistent in well run organizations in recent memory.
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You know, same thing in Toronto.
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They develop that reputation anywhere.
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You want to look around the league.
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I mean, to that extent.
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It's like I would link are working to and I think that's a big thing for him.
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Like he's.
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These are like, really like I don't I kind of just want to call him like Blue Call or almost like I.
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Why Loki want to throw it? I wanna look, he throw out, Whisper in the wind.
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You honest to the San Antonio Spurs? Watch your back.
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I do it.
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If the Spurs were I don't know what the Spurs are at this point, I don't know.
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I have no idea.
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I think there's too much of a risk with Pop potentially retiring, I just don't know.
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Yeah, the one that I think is interesting is that there's no Golden State Warriors and by all accounts, they would fit in with those other two in terms of really good culture.
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Really good, Coach.
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I just thought that was interesting that they weren't listed in that group.
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My take right now is I think, that the entire league saw how Katie was received for going there.
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I wonder if that place apart into this.
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So there's like, this weird part of my brain, I guess, you know, like the galaxy bring mean my galaxy brain, says signing Katie was weirdly the worst thing for the Warriors while they have Steph Curry and Clay and Draymond, because now they're received is like the easy way out for the next superstar, right? I don't know if that's right.
00:22:00
It all of you might still go there, but like, part of me kind of was like, Oh, that's interesting because like it, if we're looking at this logistically and just like where he would fit the best, he probably fits perfectly in what they are doing and what they need.
00:22:17
Like they need a defensive anchor.
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They need somebody that I mean, honestly, like you put him and Stephan, you know, I guess they don't really run is much pick and roll.
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But let's say they did.
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You think you could work it out? You can get adjustment and you have a playoff ball with him and clay playoff ball.
00:22:32
But I just thought it was interesting that they weren't listed.
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I really did.
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Well, I guess, you know, if I was trying to get the other side of it, I guess would be to say, Okay, he lost to him, lost to them, and then joined them.
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That was a big bonus around it.
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And I guess who is.
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You could make the case for you, honest.
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If you want to do some of that like you're gonna be there after these players go because of the ages for your 67 years younger than them, so you could sign a monster deal and say, I'm going to be the next legacy.
00:22:56
Stepping stone for the Golden State Warriors is a franchise under Steve Kerr.
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But you're right, though I think it's a weird or at least the gold states, any of these teams where you go, I just maybe hesitate.
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If it's a team, say it was the Lakers, Right? Say the Lakers win this year and then Johannes is room.
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They're gonna He's gonna go join LeBron out there in L.
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A.
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You know, with a D or something, you go OK, so you're going to join up onto that bandwagon and get a couple of quick championships and worry about your next move After that, which everyone kind of says a little bit about Anthony Davis, He's like, I don't want to be in New Orleans.
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I want I want to go somewhere that I feel guaranteed.
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I'll go join LeBron.
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So there's that factor of it.
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But if you want to talk about stability and you feel like you're gonna fit in and having a legacy and you know being anchor of a D defense, I mean the Brooklyn.
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That's just natural.
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Got do it.
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I'll do a sign and trade with Jared Allen.
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You out there looking? I don't even know what I would do That team is.
00:23:52
I mean, he really is kind of what they need.
00:23:54
Like I listen inspector in the galaxy and you say Yeah, like, not just cause he's really good at basketball, but like in terms of doing I don't know, just adding, like a little bit of pace to their game.
00:24:07
And, um, just like hiring a baby, it honest.
00:24:12
And I would say, Coyote, Kari, Johannes And then, like I would say, like, Let's keep Joe Harris because he valuable, like, literally everybody else.
00:24:20
Everyone else to be on the table for May Joe Harris will get open.
00:24:23
Looks like if you if you have Yana son into Cooper driving down the lane and you have Kyrie and K D Space and I think show Harris is the open guy.
00:24:32
That's crazy.
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I mean, I don't know.
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I wanted see on a team with the honest Katie and Kyrie M v P.
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Joe Harris.
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Yeah, we don't know how it shook out that way.
00:24:42
It was the weirdest thing I don't know.
00:24:44
I I think I mean, I know that that's no.
00:24:47
That's a big green right there about as far a field as we want around that type of thing.
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I know that being the case.
00:24:54
It is interesting the play that we've seen over the course of these playoffs and in the Siri's.
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You do see this shift around.
00:25:01
It felt like it was a foregone conclusion that Johannes was going to stay in Milwaukee and literally through the bubble in these playoffs and the coaching of Bud like you're just starting to see enough cracks here, where at least it opens the door to say, Yeah, I could see how maybe his mind is changing a little bit.
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And that's gonna be the case for a handful of other players, even like a van fleet.
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Maybe they're just offer out there that entices him away from Toronto and starts to shift. Thesis.
00:25:24
Yeah, exactly like you know, and listen.
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And that to me, would be the worst choice that he could make.
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But, you know, good for the next.
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Like I like that fit.
00:25:32
He'd be pretty good next to R. J. Barrett.
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I want I want to have, like a semi competent next team.
00:25:37
You know, it's just something I'm like, you know, get out of here on this. For some reason.
00:25:43
In my mind, I want that I want the Knicks to let to release Kevin Knox because every Knicks fan just seems to be so down on him and disgusted with.
00:25:52
He's the kind of guy that I want to see end up on the Nets roster in a Hey, you guys just aren't smart enough to figure this thing out.
00:26:01
We'll go ahead and show you what he can be. I don't know that he's a superstar.
00:26:04
Just that I think that he's all much more valuable player than the New York Knicks could ever perceived because they're just the New York next.
00:26:11
I I don't know why.
00:26:13
I still have Kevin knock stuck. I can't.
00:26:15
I've tried so hard, I've I had to sell it for pennies.
00:26:17
I'm trying to see Oh, but I just I always buy back.
00:26:21
I'm always like, Yeah, but like, you know, like the jump shot is that I like, you know, if you learn how to defend, like even though he's like just new married if it worst players in the league.
00:26:34
I'm like, you know what? Like there's something there I don't know.
00:26:37
I think I'm gonna hang on to my Kevin Knox talk until he's playing in Turkey like I really dio.
00:26:41
I don't know what else to do with it.
00:26:43
I can't officially bottoms out until, uh, until Tibbs runs and flat into the ground.
00:26:49
Maccioni's 40 minutes under Tibbs.
00:26:52
Now he's gonna get by the way.
00:26:53
He'll be.
00:26:54
He'll be like one of the first people that just not see even a minute of playing time under tips.
00:26:58
Who likes to play the urns? It'll be Taj Gibson playing like 42 minutes, and I I'm not a Chicago.
00:27:05
The Chicago Bulls arc of players just keeps working its way from from the northern Midwest there, straight through to the Timberwolves and makes its way down to the big city.
00:27:15
So we'll see how that shakes out.
00:27:16
Um, as always, man, we can't seem to manage to keep this thing on track, but there's a lot more of a basketball coming your way.
00:27:23
These are the kind of conversations and actually really enjoyed throughout the playoffs so mad and I'll be back.
00:27:27
Check him out.
00:27:28
Doing his thing I'm doing mine will be back here on a SportsCastr news talking MBA Action. Yeah.
00:27:33
Oh, check out my other channel. Matchbooks, FDA.
00:27:35
I just did a big I rarely.
00:27:37
I'm getting better at plugging things Big preview of the Rockets, Lakers Siri's.
00:27:43
OK, hop off.
00:27:44
You're gonna be editing that in a podcast, But go check that out there.
00:27:47
Why not? Watch it.
00:27:48
You know, do a little watch along.
00:27:50
Listen for a guy that I know spends way more hours than I'd ever remotely be willing to commit watching film.
00:27:57
Uh, if this is the If you're going to check somebody out for a branch of preview, check out Matt Brooks USA because those air Ah, fantastic man.
00:28:05
I've read the articles and just been like, Oh, my God, the level of ours that this guy spends watching it I couldn't I can't even fathom it.
00:28:14
I'll just go.
00:28:15
I'll just read Matt's article and then I'll give him credit when I use it as a reference later.
00:28:18
Later.
00:28:19
Later on.
00:28:20
Yeah, a lot of problem.
00:28:21
It's a lot of bubble nets.
00:28:22
Feel more than I'd like to admit that I've consumed in the last month.
00:28:26
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00:28:27
Check him out, man.
00:28:28
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00:28:30
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NBA players react to OG Anunoby’s game-winner vs. Celtics

A bunch of NBA players expressed their excitement and insight to Toronto Raptors forward OG Anunoby’s game-winning 3-pointer over the Boston Celtics. CJ McCollum of the Portland Trail Blazers recalled a similar play in Game 7 between the Oklahoma City Thunder and the Houston Rockets. Same situation as last night with less time . Different […]

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And with that we welcome back once again a SportsCastr nuestros always on Madam are back joined by that Brooks who just had the biggest cup of coffee I've ever seen in my life.
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That is, guys.
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Caffeine aiding up on Ah, Friday is the weekend, By the way.
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It's Labor Day weekend, I think.
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Right? Does that make that to Ah, is it? I wouldn't know I could be.
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That's what it could be.
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Could be September.
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It could also be the middle of June.
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I would have no concept of tie it all current conditions.
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We come in on on on a good one, man.
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Ah, for let's start, we'll start with the play.
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This game is tight.
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The Toronto Raptors air down.
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Oh, to basically their season is on the line.
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They bring in taco falters.
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To put it in the disparity, disparity and height between kind Hilarion.
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Taco fall has to be the biggest margin going back to Muggsy Bogues probably.
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Um, break demand is what you see on that play.
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Arguably one of the best passes from an out of bounds play that I've ever seen executed in play a recent playoff memory.
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Yeah, I feel like I kind of underrated the past.
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It's like I was like, Wow, I think I was the best past the playoffs And then the more I think about it, I'm like, That's like one of the better passes I've ever seen.
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Like it was like the more you look at, how far it one now high it went just to get over Taco, fall and fertile land like right, Like he literally had to just stand there and it went perfectly in his hands.
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Like I I just don't know if there I've seen.
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I mean, there have been better passes.
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I'm like, I'm sure in N b A history, but in terms of like just, I don't know, like things that I watched more and more.
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I've just I've never had a play where the more I watch it, the more I appreciate it, You know what I mean? Like, it just happened so quickly in the moment that I kind of was just like, I don't really even know.
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It just happened like it was funny.
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Teoh, um, prettier passes right? There's always those beautiful palate.
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It wasn't like some type of, you know, amazing Orrick or whatever it was, it didn't look like he was gonna make it like I saw it like it was like I was like, Oh, that actually laid it in his hands like it just was It was a just like the arc of it, I guess was so dramatic that I think in a way that kind of added to the suspense and a lot of ways, Well, something weird about it, too, because I think I was lulled into a sense of right with all the 0.5 on the clock.
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So you just like, Okay, this is formality of going down.
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03 Here They talked about Taco Fall checking in and you normally don't like you very rarely see Ah, pass.
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Even we talked like a three quarter courts pass Or just, you know, long distance passes where a defender doesn't end up in between it because it's just the nature, like it's too far.
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A player can see it in a just now in the postgame.
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Most of the Boston Celtics player, I think he was Jaylen, Brown said.
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Like that's just a mistake.
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Like we just blew an assignment.
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We weren't communicating like that's it.
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Nothing more there.
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That's fine. That probably is the case.
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Boy.
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The next thought that I immediately had was you threw it into the an OBE like you.
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You went to him and in terms of of looking at the Raptors and saying Boys see aacm obviously some growing pains here taking on the number one prominent role, that shooting nights for a lot of guys on the Raptors.
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I wonder if maybe this is a nice growth spot for Ogi to say.
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Like, Hey, you may end up needing to be a bigger proponent of what this team is going forward if we're going to maintain this level of High Eastern Conference competitiveness because see aacm while he may get there.
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But he's clearly not there yet.
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Yeah, I That Siachen thing has been kind of startling.
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He just, like, doesn't have ah, first option offensive game like I'm like, I'm pretty much their like.
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I'm sure he can improve in certain ways and, like, added certain things, I think part of it he just looked really out of his element like he hasn't been using his speed at all.
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I you know what? It feels weird to like criticize, nurse and like, maybe this is wrong to do this, but I don't know if they use him in the way I would like.
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I would use some a little bit more, is like a pick and roll ball handler and do a little bit more.
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I mean, like, even the bucks don't do that. Enough with the honest.
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I might give you honest a scream like give him a little bit of room.
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Um, I would feel the same way about SIAC, Um, a little bit, like get him downhill a little bit, get his defiant like defender behind the place.
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So you're putting the, I guess, big man defender who's usually getting drawn away from the basket like put that guy in trouble.
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So he has to guard Sockem.
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Going downhill is one of the fastest players in the league, along with the guy that setting the screen.
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So I think that he's kind of been difficult to watch because he doesn't have a much of an offensive game outside of being fast and that little spin move that he loves to do.
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And I know he's been really impressive, like he just like he's just so big.
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He's just so big and so strong, and I wish he could dribble.
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That's my one problem right now.
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Like there was a possession where he took it up in transition.
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All the requisite about being a basketball player.
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You gotta shoot.
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Yeah, God dribble.
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I mean, and that's had a common for players his age.
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Like you look at the two guys on the other side of the court like Jaylen Brown really couldn't Tripoli.
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Two years like you just couldn't dribble at all.
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And even Jayson Tatum last year.
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His handle was pretty loose and like, you see, like what? It and I'll be honest.
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Like, I think a lot of times, one of the easiest things to sharpen up is a handle like That's if you're gonna be missing anything.
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That's the one I want you to be missing.
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He's out the jump shot.
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He's got the physicality.
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That's a huge gift in itself.
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The defense of shops are totally there.
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Yeah, that guy has been awesome in this year's I mean, if I'm Toronto, I'm coming away.
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No matter what the result is, Um I mean, obviously what advance? But I'm coming away feeling really good about this, an OBE think like he's been just a really bright spot for them.
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And, um, I I mean, part of me looks at him like, Is that the guy you build around? Like I just haven't felt that way until the Siri's? Well, it's interesting, too, because so the thing you mentioned about Siachen there, um, and how maybe nurse to be utilizing and better unlike and not that they don't have.
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You have Hill there in Milwaukee.
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You have.
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You have players there, the guard positions.
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But unlike Milwaukee because Toronto within fleeting Lowry, it's like, Hey, these air two of our better guy.
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Like you know, these are the guys that need to depend on here and have success.
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Maybe that makes it a little bit more difficult to put Siachen into that kind of role, although to your point it seems like then a van fleet or allow it would benefit from being able to await.
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Like they're both good three point shooters.
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They both like to work on the printer.
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So if you allowed Siachen to draw and then, you know, have those perimeter looks be a little bit easier to come by because we've seen, especially in the first two games of this series, where Lowry and Van Fleet have been having difficulty getting their shot off on the perimeter because they are naturally undersized and Boston matches up well, they play sound evidence.
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You have Marcus Smart.
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So having being able to do less work and still get those still get those looks from the outside would be a nice bonus for as a fringe benefit off of Siachen game.
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Yeah, I think one of the interesting things for them is like I don't know what was going on, but they were just running high screens up like they weren't doing anything too crazy in terms of getting back into that game.
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They were just running high screens for, uh, Kyle Lowry and Fred Vanvleet.
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I think that's I mean, I kind of want to re watch the fourth quarter that I You know why I love I almost like love rewatching games more than watch black now, but I don't know something about what they were doing, like giving those guys open looks over and over and over.
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It was weird that Boston wasn't defending the high screen as well, just like it might have been a nice thing just him dropping back into the pain a little bit.
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But I want to say they figured out a couple of things in yesterday's game.
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Tentatively, well, it also cause again first two games.
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They were having bad shooting nights from the perimeter.
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So if you're Boston, you say all right, like what will keep you know? We'll prove it.
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Prove prove that you've found your rhythm again and that's fine.
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And then I wonder, too.
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It's like, This is funny, like Nick Nurse, coach of the year.
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Ah, but I wonder if it's also like he's also looking and saying, I don't know if I anticipate, like, I didn't anticipate this from Siachen, like having these struggles.
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So, you know, I have a lot of I make a lot of adjustments, Yeah, but I don't really have an adjustment for who I think is our best player not being able to carry the load.
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And then the other thing for trial to is, you know, Gasol and we talked about Ibaka the other day.
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He looks like a little bit step slow.
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It's just this is a to your point about Oh, gee of like, hey, maybe he He's one of the guys you build around.
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I wonder, what do they do this offseason? Are you Are you looking to retain Van Flee? Are you gonna live with Kyle Lowry over the last few years of his career? Because you know what? Drop off is gonna come there at some point.
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This team and you said the other day about sits of the since that's our speculation about the honest, But he's going to Toronto.
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But like in this off season, regardless of what happens because I I would say I don't I don't see Toronto making it out of maybe not this serious and certainly not the Eastern Conference.
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It seems like maybe if some holes here that have been exposed like Gasol, Ibaka Van Fleet, like there's a lot of quote key pieces that could just be gone from this roster, So they're gonna have to rebuild it in some way.
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And I wonder how much they're gonna be able to find in free agency to feel comfortable enough coming into next year and saying we're still a top three or top four seed in the Eastern conference.
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Yeah, it'll be really interesting.
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Like I I think I would retain Van Fleet, but because I just like, but I don't know, they could go a lot of different ways.
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Like, do they want to get rid of SIAC? Um, like, I've thought about that.
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I'm like, Do you like, if you're gonna keep SIAC, um, or if you're gonna go for Johannes, it doesn't really make it on a sense to have SIAC.
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Um And you honest, like so why wouldn't you just get the better Seahawk? Um and yeah, it's like in a lot of ways.
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So I I'm interested to see I could see them really shaking it up.
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I would get rid of both of Gasol and Ibaka.
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I've been I know there's like, Yeah, and on our side of the world way have brought up the nets and I have been really good about it, but I'm doing it right now.
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Um, uh, people in the next world have been saying Oh, like Serge Ibaka to the nets.
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And first up? Yes, like that.
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Fine.
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If you want to bring him is like a backup center or something like that.
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Still one of the better backups in the week.
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It's been revealing toe.
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Watch him play defense against this Celtics team and you're gonna have to go through.
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That might think next year, and it's just he's just a step slow.
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I just and I can't get over it in a lot of ways.
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So I think I would move on from him if I was Toronto.
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I would definitely move on from Missile.
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I mean, if payback is a step slow, I like I love Marcus all my goodness, like it's been.
00:10:28
I think they have to place the do***ent, the five, like that's I think that's the adjustment I would make is like start leaning into that a little bit more.
00:10:35
Just try to play speed for speed.
00:10:37
You might be playing into Boston's hands, but you at least have to, like, think about it, Um, and then with Lowry, he's got one more year on his deal.
00:10:45
Might as well keep him around.
00:10:46
I would just get in quick.
00:10:47
That's that's what I would do.
00:10:48
I like him and I think he's He's a guy.
00:10:52
He has changed my my perception of whatever my opinion of him has evolved very much over his over his career because it just it felt like, How could you possibly catch, you know, not the same player, but no other Lowry and Toronto like, How could you have another undersized guard and they get it done? So I'm actually you say I'm a much higher on him and retaining him.
00:11:11
Knowing the age of Lowry makes sense, because you can keep carrying that over what you talk about Gasol and working like in the high pick and rolls and as he tries to roll to the basket on those switches and then seeing him almost basically block out his own guard from the help defend against shooters like Yeah, that feels like that has to roll over for them.
00:11:28
It's weird.
00:11:29
It's weird.
00:11:30
The playoffs change perceptions, and I feel like we talked about not overreacting to things too much.
00:11:34
But I probably already had this opinion going into its Romano.
00:11:38
They need to make a tweet, but they look like they're getting the other.
00:11:41
They're falling down the hierarchy very quickly and this offseason, whoever you're gonna pursue, if you don't bring in a pretty exciting name doesn't have to be honest.
00:11:52
But It has to be a pretty high level player to change how Siachen can play and play off of someone else.
00:11:58
I'll have ah have very interesting perspectives on them going into next season.
00:12:02
I feel like they could very quickly start to tumble down where you have an fleeting Lowry.
00:12:07
And it's.
00:12:08
But I guess Ogi, though, is a big factor in that to write like development, reception to And maybe you're just a better big.
00:12:14
Maybe you're born athletic, big away from being ****d back in contention next year again.
00:12:18
You know, I thought about this just now.
00:12:20
Well, so first up, they have no right side normal.
00:12:23
Well, I was thinking our guy Jared Allen, if you want to do a sign and trade for Serge Ibaka who? Well, God, But I would hate that from the Nets standpoint, I really I kind of like I Here's the thing.
00:12:35
So they they I don't think you can make us to choose the perimeter.
00:12:41
Three shoots the three.
00:12:42
He's kind of I gotta I gotta walk that back.
00:12:44
I wouldn't hate it.
00:12:45
I would hate it from the standpoint of and I have to I have a hard time with this from a Nets perspective of adjusting my mentality of we're in win now mode.
00:12:53
So you trade away a really young player and you bring in an aging veteran who, you know only has a couple of good years.
00:12:58
But that's exactly you know, you need a couple of good years, and if you have one good year out of Ibaka, you know, it might be worth I see.
00:13:04
Like that's that I don't know, like you put like Jared Allen in ah, in Nurses System and you start having him like, in a little more comfortable on the perimeter kind allows you to build a little bit younger because I think what they're gonna do is they're gonna try to do what, the Miami Heat, where it's like you grab all these young pieces and then you just kind of it's like you never really bought him out.
00:13:27
I think that's what they're gonna do.
00:13:29
It's what it feels like.
00:13:30
They just have one too many guys.
00:13:31
It's like we just we can't quite tank like we're just, you know, one too many professionals here.
00:13:37
Um, it is not a bad thing to have by the way, So I'd expect, like maybe a couple of 6/7 seed finishes.
00:13:45
Now you're playing a dangerous game because you can get stuck in that six or seven spot.
00:13:51
But I do think that they have an exit strategy or they are at least planning to have an exit strategy kind of magic about Yeah, it's kind of living living out of the air, just a poorly run franchise.
00:14:03
Like I'm not like the Raptors are really well run.
00:14:07
And they're gonna look for certain things now whether that materializes to another championship, I don't know, but I'd expect them to kind of roll it over just as long as messiahs there.
00:14:15
They're just gonna be there going to be doing this forever.
00:14:17
They've been doing this since they traded Rudy Gay.
00:14:19
Like, yeah, powers are bigger.
00:14:22
It out one 100% their birth east.
00:14:28
Yeah, and they do such a certain franchises just do this better.
00:14:32
I mean, and even even talk about like we were saying the other day about where local depot may go for the Pacers and whatever, but they find T.
00:14:38
J.
00:14:39
Warren, and you know what? A contract dump and you just start to realize some franchises, whatever the net result are.
00:14:43
And obviously they've already won a championship with quite last year.
00:14:46
But they're always gonna be a respectable and well run Frank.
00:14:49
That's the difference.
00:14:50
The difference of being a 1909 10 C and trying to sc**** for the spot versus being a 567 seed and always being in the mix is just being well run and scouting effectively and getting making the right decisions of free agency, not overspending, not getting something with big contracts like That's how you end up staying in that that hierarchy of of a decent team that maybe can draft into occasionally ah, bit of, ah, higher run.
00:15:12
So I mean, listen, if God, if they got, the more I think about Johannes not wanting to be in a big market, he's a quiet guy, like I don't know if if the swap over to Toronto makes a ton of sense, I know there's the tide of the GM.
00:15:25
They're feeling more comfortable in that regard and be very interesting to see how how Milwaukee comes out of that looking and you know what, how, and have the Eastern Conference look if you are not going anywhere.
00:15:37
Milwaukee.
00:15:38
You want to talk about a team meeting on a different foot? That team gets very weird very quickly.
00:15:42
If they if they lose Johannes with Bud and not feeling great about something, his coaching decisions that he's made along the way, like all of a sudden, that kind of falls apart, very fired.
00:15:52
If they lose this Siri's to be completely honest, that's not even a hot taken this point.
00:15:56
But, like I really dio like you, it's gonna It's gonna be like, quick to I just get that feeling.
00:16:02
It's like losing in the second round with a guy that's a free agent and you're playing him 30 minutes.
00:16:08
I mean, have you ever Did you see the pressers? He's given the last couple of days where he's like, I'm just gonna do what the coach tells me.
00:16:13
Dio who, like one of the first times, were like we're like, Yeah, we're Dionysus commentary.
00:16:19
Oh boy, like you haven't heard anything that would make you think that he's leaving their culpability, likes it.
00:16:26
Why did you ask me that? I just do the coaches.
00:16:28
You're like, Oh, so first thing that happens but is gone.
00:16:32
He try and you go.
00:16:33
Listen, we're bringing who you want, who you want however you want, and then you end.
00:16:36
It may be walking to that classic.
00:16:37
We bring in a coach.
00:16:38
And then Yana says, You have still got that.
00:16:40
Yeah, because my weight started.
00:16:41
I'll go play for the coach of the year interest in Toronto, you know, just starting to feel obvious.
00:16:46
It's like if he wants I mean, just look at the teams that he's rumored to go toe like OK, so you're you want to go play for one of the three best coaches? By the way, I think the three best coaches right now are in the East's 234 spots.
00:17:02
That sure seems like that's where all of the coaching is right now.
00:17:06
So, um, yeah, like I That's kind of what it seems like.
00:17:10
I like Think that sound like Doc.
00:17:12
Like I said, a dock, obviously, like I have less, but I have Doc like it's here.
00:17:16
I actually so I kind of want to, like, sit down and try to make a list of coaches this and just, you know, like it just in terms of like, still obviously high level guy like I don't look at the Lakers and go, Well, that's about coaching.
00:17:27
Yeah, I think that Doc still impacts.
00:17:29
You know, the game e.
00:17:30
I think that he's important relative to what to do, and I and maybe I'm hanging my hat a little bit on the surprise.
00:17:35
That was the L A Clippers.
00:17:36
Going back a handful years with 42 40 and making the playoffs, and you're beating expectations.
00:17:41
But rig rows of any of that Brad Stevens, Nick Nurse.
00:17:45
You're clearly that that and then Spoelstra, you're saying that in Miami, clearly, you're very heavily weighted in terms of quality quality coaches in the Eastern Conference.
00:17:55
You probably right, And obviously the bash, you know, obviously, yeah, curve, maybe throw him in the mix.
00:18:01
Uh, I don't know, like I really m fascinated.
00:18:04
Sit down and try to do that.
00:18:06
It's funny to cause it's got me thinking is because any of these other teams like Miami exceeding expectations.
00:18:13
And you you have butler.
00:18:14
But you're not laden with stars and young talent.
00:18:17
Same thing for Toronto and same thing for Boston, right? Like it's like Boston I mean Tatum ascending.
00:18:21
But every time you talk about even Toronto pre Coli and post, you go well, it's about the sum of the parts, and it's how we coach and it's how we execute.
00:18:28
That's really what makes you look at them and say they're one of the better teams in the Eastern Conference or in the MBA overall and likewise for Spoelstra.
00:18:35
Whereas Doc Rivers or any the Lakers, any of those teams you go, well, it could be a both.
00:18:40
And, you know, it could be predicated on having two of the best top 10 players in the league on your roster.
00:18:45
Doesn't hurt your chances of having success.
00:18:49
Yeah, uh, I kind of like Vogel, but, um, I think he's are you couldn't think his name.
00:18:55
Yeah, I like him a little bit more, I think, than the average person I dock has been better.
00:19:01
I was like, the first couple of games, always like I don't know, like this is this Clippers team is we're here and, like, they just all I think we talked about it quite a bit.
00:19:11
I was just like cold on those, like I don't know what these rotations are.
00:19:14
I don't know why Landry Sham.
00:19:16
It's being used like this.
00:19:17
I don't know why.
00:19:18
Zoo watches and playing.
00:19:19
He seems like he's kind of eased into that.
00:19:21
Uh, Doc is stock is a really good coach, like, really, really good.
00:19:25
But I mean, the reason I bring up all these coaches just re honest is I just I don't know, just those teams were so specific to come out, and I just It's It's not a coincidence that it's two of the best coach teams in the league, right, Like there's no right.
00:19:40
I just have to think that like, I don't know, and maybe it is just like he the markets appealed to him, and I do think the Messiah thing plays into it, but I don't know.
00:19:50
I mean, that's been the biggest thing missing for Milwaukee, and that's what those two teams provide.
00:19:54
Yeah, and if you're a young plan, by the way like I always say this, it's like you Honest is still young.
00:19:58
His game can still evolve.
00:19:59
He can still become whatever.
00:20:01
Yeah, but he's 25 right? Like if you're him and now you go, OK, so I haven't I haven't been there yet having been to the finals yet.
00:20:08
I'm in my mid twenties.
00:20:09
I don't know if this team is going to get there.
00:20:11
I see Brooklyn's coming.
00:20:12
You know, I see the Miami Heat or getting whatever.
00:20:14
I see how everything's moving around me like I could be a contract from now in Milwaukee, having never made it to the finals at 28 29 years old, or however you know two or three years or whatever it is extended signing center there.
00:20:27
I could be staring down just not having had gotten that first championship and regards.
00:20:31
You have any guarantees around it.
00:20:33
But to your point of boy Miami, they've been one of the most consistent in well run organizations in recent memory.
00:20:38
You know, same thing in Toronto.
00:20:39
They develop that reputation anywhere.
00:20:41
You want to look around the league.
00:20:42
I mean, to that extent.
00:20:44
It's like I would link are working to and I think that's a big thing for him.
00:20:49
Like he's.
00:20:50
These are like, really like I don't I kind of just want to call him like Blue Call or almost like I.
00:20:55
Why Loki want to throw it? I wanna look, he throw out, Whisper in the wind.
00:20:58
You honest to the San Antonio Spurs? Watch your back.
00:21:01
I do it.
00:21:02
If the Spurs were I don't know what the Spurs are at this point, I don't know.
00:21:07
I have no idea.
00:21:08
I think there's too much of a risk with Pop potentially retiring, I just don't know.
00:21:13
Yeah, the one that I think is interesting is that there's no Golden State Warriors and by all accounts, they would fit in with those other two in terms of really good culture.
00:21:24
Really good, Coach.
00:21:25
I just thought that was interesting that they weren't listed in that group.
00:21:29
My take right now is I think, that the entire league saw how Katie was received for going there.
00:21:37
I wonder if that place apart into this.
00:21:39
So there's like, this weird part of my brain, I guess, you know, like the galaxy bring mean my galaxy brain, says signing Katie was weirdly the worst thing for the Warriors while they have Steph Curry and Clay and Draymond, because now they're received is like the easy way out for the next superstar, right? I don't know if that's right.
00:22:00
It all of you might still go there, but like, part of me kind of was like, Oh, that's interesting because like it, if we're looking at this logistically and just like where he would fit the best, he probably fits perfectly in what they are doing and what they need.
00:22:17
Like they need a defensive anchor.
00:22:18
They need somebody that I mean, honestly, like you put him and Stephan, you know, I guess they don't really run is much pick and roll.
00:22:24
But let's say they did.
00:22:26
You think you could work it out? You can get adjustment and you have a playoff ball with him and clay playoff ball.
00:22:32
But I just thought it was interesting that they weren't listed.
00:22:34
I really did.
00:22:35
Well, I guess, you know, if I was trying to get the other side of it, I guess would be to say, Okay, he lost to him, lost to them, and then joined them.
00:22:42
That was a big bonus around it.
00:22:43
And I guess who is.
00:22:45
You could make the case for you, honest.
00:22:46
If you want to do some of that like you're gonna be there after these players go because of the ages for your 67 years younger than them, so you could sign a monster deal and say, I'm going to be the next legacy.
00:22:56
Stepping stone for the Golden State Warriors is a franchise under Steve Kerr.
00:23:00
But you're right, though I think it's a weird or at least the gold states, any of these teams where you go, I just maybe hesitate.
00:23:08
If it's a team, say it was the Lakers, Right? Say the Lakers win this year and then Johannes is room.
00:23:13
They're gonna He's gonna go join LeBron out there in L.
00:23:16
A.
00:23:17
You know, with a D or something, you go OK, so you're going to join up onto that bandwagon and get a couple of quick championships and worry about your next move After that, which everyone kind of says a little bit about Anthony Davis, He's like, I don't want to be in New Orleans.
00:23:28
I want I want to go somewhere that I feel guaranteed.
00:23:30
I'll go join LeBron.
00:23:31
So there's that factor of it.
00:23:32
But if you want to talk about stability and you feel like you're gonna fit in and having a legacy and you know being anchor of a D defense, I mean the Brooklyn.
00:23:40
That's just natural.
00:23:43
Got do it.
00:23:44
I'll do a sign and trade with Jared Allen.
00:23:46
You out there looking? I don't even know what I would do That team is.
00:23:52
I mean, he really is kind of what they need.
00:23:54
Like I listen inspector in the galaxy and you say Yeah, like, not just cause he's really good at basketball, but like in terms of doing I don't know, just adding, like a little bit of pace to their game.
00:24:07
And, um, just like hiring a baby, it honest.
00:24:12
And I would say, Coyote, Kari, Johannes And then, like I would say, like, Let's keep Joe Harris because he valuable, like, literally everybody else.
00:24:20
Everyone else to be on the table for May Joe Harris will get open.
00:24:23
Looks like if you if you have Yana son into Cooper driving down the lane and you have Kyrie and K D Space and I think show Harris is the open guy.
00:24:32
That's crazy.
00:24:33
I mean, I don't know.
00:24:34
I wanted see on a team with the honest Katie and Kyrie M v P.
00:24:39
Joe Harris.
00:24:40
Yeah, we don't know how it shook out that way.
00:24:42
It was the weirdest thing I don't know.
00:24:44
I I think I mean, I know that that's no.
00:24:47
That's a big green right there about as far a field as we want around that type of thing.
00:24:52
I know that being the case.
00:24:54
It is interesting the play that we've seen over the course of these playoffs and in the Siri's.
00:24:59
You do see this shift around.
00:25:01
It felt like it was a foregone conclusion that Johannes was going to stay in Milwaukee and literally through the bubble in these playoffs and the coaching of Bud like you're just starting to see enough cracks here, where at least it opens the door to say, Yeah, I could see how maybe his mind is changing a little bit.
00:25:16
And that's gonna be the case for a handful of other players, even like a van fleet.
00:25:19
Maybe they're just offer out there that entices him away from Toronto and starts to shift. Thesis.
00:25:24
Yeah, exactly like you know, and listen.
00:25:26
And that to me, would be the worst choice that he could make.
00:25:28
But, you know, good for the next.
00:25:30
Like I like that fit.
00:25:32
He'd be pretty good next to R. J. Barrett.
00:25:34
I want I want to have, like a semi competent next team.
00:25:37
You know, it's just something I'm like, you know, get out of here on this. For some reason.
00:25:43
In my mind, I want that I want the Knicks to let to release Kevin Knox because every Knicks fan just seems to be so down on him and disgusted with.
00:25:52
He's the kind of guy that I want to see end up on the Nets roster in a Hey, you guys just aren't smart enough to figure this thing out.
00:26:01
We'll go ahead and show you what he can be. I don't know that he's a superstar.
00:26:04
Just that I think that he's all much more valuable player than the New York Knicks could ever perceived because they're just the New York next.
00:26:11
I I don't know why.
00:26:13
I still have Kevin knock stuck. I can't.
00:26:15
I've tried so hard, I've I had to sell it for pennies.
00:26:17
I'm trying to see Oh, but I just I always buy back.
00:26:21
I'm always like, Yeah, but like, you know, like the jump shot is that I like, you know, if you learn how to defend, like even though he's like just new married if it worst players in the league.
00:26:34
I'm like, you know what? Like there's something there I don't know.
00:26:37
I think I'm gonna hang on to my Kevin Knox talk until he's playing in Turkey like I really dio.
00:26:41
I don't know what else to do with it.
00:26:43
I can't officially bottoms out until, uh, until Tibbs runs and flat into the ground.
00:26:49
Maccioni's 40 minutes under Tibbs.
00:26:52
Now he's gonna get by the way.
00:26:53
He'll be.
00:26:54
He'll be like one of the first people that just not see even a minute of playing time under tips.
00:26:58
Who likes to play the urns? It'll be Taj Gibson playing like 42 minutes, and I I'm not a Chicago.
00:27:05
The Chicago Bulls arc of players just keeps working its way from from the northern Midwest there, straight through to the Timberwolves and makes its way down to the big city.
00:27:15
So we'll see how that shakes out.
00:27:16
Um, as always, man, we can't seem to manage to keep this thing on track, but there's a lot more of a basketball coming your way.
00:27:23
These are the kind of conversations and actually really enjoyed throughout the playoffs so mad and I'll be back.
00:27:27
Check him out.
00:27:28
Doing his thing I'm doing mine will be back here on a SportsCastr news talking MBA Action. Yeah.
00:27:33
Oh, check out my other channel. Matchbooks, FDA.
00:27:35
I just did a big I rarely.
00:27:37
I'm getting better at plugging things Big preview of the Rockets, Lakers Siri's.
00:27:43
OK, hop off.
00:27:44
You're gonna be editing that in a podcast, But go check that out there.
00:27:47
Why not? Watch it.
00:27:48
You know, do a little watch along.
00:27:50
Listen for a guy that I know spends way more hours than I'd ever remotely be willing to commit watching film.
00:27:57
Uh, if this is the If you're going to check somebody out for a branch of preview, check out Matt Brooks USA because those air Ah, fantastic man.
00:28:05
I've read the articles and just been like, Oh, my God, the level of ours that this guy spends watching it I couldn't I can't even fathom it.
00:28:14
I'll just go.
00:28:15
I'll just read Matt's article and then I'll give him credit when I use it as a reference later.
00:28:18
Later.
00:28:19
Later on.
00:28:20
Yeah, a lot of problem.
00:28:21
It's a lot of bubble nets.
00:28:22
Feel more than I'd like to admit that I've consumed in the last month.
00:28:26
There you go.
00:28:27
Check him out, man.
00:28:28
He's doing a good thing and we'll get we'll get back in later.
00:28:30
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