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It's not going out.
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There it is. There it is.
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All right, guys, Welcome The SportsCastr news.
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I'm Laurence Owen with me today, As you see, is my boy Joe Nouveau.
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What up? Rare Out won't be here this evening because he was with me on an earlier stream.
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So that kind of, you know, killed his daily quota of one a day.
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And today we're actually get through a few different types of news That has spark over the last 24 hours that we haven't been able to cover as of late.
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Just really excited about covering this and so on my, um, first thing we're gonna go over obviously is, you know, the title right here for net and the Buccaneers.
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He signs a one year, $2 million with the option to make $3.
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5 million depending upon you know how well he does in such So Joe, what do you think about for not going to the bucks? I think this is a great move for both sides.
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I think it works really well because we've talked about the bucks, man, that they just don't really have that running game.
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You know, your that was probably one of their only weakness is on offense that you just weren't sure about.
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But now I believe, for Net adds that, too.
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And I mean, it does suck if you're a fantasy player like myself, and you drafted Ronald Jones because you were expecting him to take all the starting role.
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But now they signed Leonard Fournette.
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But you know, that's that's just how it is, man.
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I get screwed all the time in fantasy, So but I digress.
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I do like this move in a reality football perspective.
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I think that for net had we were talking about it.
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He had a pretty good season last year.
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I think he put up about 1700 yards.
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If I'm not mistaken, total.
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So, yeah, I mean, I mean, the biggest thing with four net is if he can stay healthy, right? And I think if he can stay healthy and especially because he doesn't have to be the workhorse running back for the Bucks, I think he's going to split carries with Row Joe without with LaShawn McCoy, who they just signed.
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So I think this is a great situation for Fernet Sabian.
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And I mean, it obviously adds to that already scary books offense.
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And, uh, you know, Brady finally has that running back.
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So I think that this works really well for both sides.
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I think for net, you know, he doesn't have to go very far.
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Jacksonville Tampa So he'll definitely take that.
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Eso Yeah, I really like the move.
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I think it it's it's a really good move for both sides, so Yeah, but my it seems like the buccaneers right now are really stacking all their eggs in one basket, don't you think? I mean, it seems like they're, like, all office.
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Let's go all office.
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We don't care.
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We mean, they still have the number one run defense in football last year, right? They only gave up, like, 3.
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3 yards a carry or something like that.
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But they also had in dumb making su right then, But yeah, I think that will do.
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OK, Is he still under? Yeah, they got a nasty D line.
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Um, but what What hurt him is their cornerbacks that you're their defense of back suck, right? I mean, suck.
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So they might be putting up points but they're going to have to because other teams, if they could throw the football like, say, the Saints, who are, you know, same division, they're gonna be throwing all over them as well.
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And they're going to be putting up points.
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So, um, it's kind of interesting.
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Your this is this is office.
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This is a team that feels like it's kind of built, very similar.
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Um, you know, Kansas City wise not not necessarily speed and all that.
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But fireworks.
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You know, it's all about the fireworks and and trying to get the fans attention with four net going to the offense, that's that's like you said.
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I mean, he had nearly 1200 yards rushing on his first riel healthy season of the in his career.
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Many had 76 catches.
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It was like fourth of the NFL last year, and running backs were catches with kind of flies under the radar because you don't expect for net toe have like a bunch of catches.
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But he had a ton of them from Gardner Major.
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Yes, and when you know when he got signed, Brady's like, Are you telling me I could throw the football to LaShawn McCoy or Leonard for Yep, loves that.
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Oh, look in there.
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Oh, yeah, because you know, I mean, it's all offensive line is not that good.
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You know, it s so he's going to have to get rid of that ball quick.
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So, you know, running backs or one of the best best people on that offense to dump that ball off too quick for a quick out.
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So, um, yeah, well, maybe Maybe that's why they wanted to add a LaShawn McCoy and Leonard for net for Tom Brady.
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Because, you know, Bruce Arians is probably like, Oh, man, you know this this practice, Tom Brady just hasn't been able to throw deep at all.
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So let's just let's get him some check down options here with LaShawn, McCoy and Leonard for net, especially because our old line is getting tourney up by shack buried in all the D line there on that side.
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So, um, you know, let's get him some outlets.
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Let's get him some outlets.
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So yeah, again, I've been saying it, man.
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Bruce Arians is not stupid.
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He's gonna build the offense for Brady.
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That's what, like, I don't understand why people don't believe Tom Brady can't succeed in this offense.
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I'm not saying that he's gonna you know, it's I don't think it's gonna be amazing.
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Deep throws every game, but you're going to see some deep throws.
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You.
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I mean, you have the receivers to do so.
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But now you have a multi dimensional offense with these backs that are capable of receiving.
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And we know Brady loves his receiving back.
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So, yeah, I mean, I think this offense is really starting to come together for the Bucks.
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Um, but I wanted to go back to what you said about how they're kind of because we've always said it's a copycat Lee.
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So it doesn't seem like the Bucks are kind of taking that Chiefs standpoint that you don't have to have a top five defense to compete nowadays.
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I mean, that does work, and you can get pretty far like in the playoffs with a really good defense.
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But mostly, most of these successful teams, you see them have like a top five offense and maybe like a top 15 defense, you know, you don't have to necessarily have both, like the Chiefs just showed you last year.
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They had a top three offense and maybe, like a top 15 top 10 at best defense.
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So I think the Bucks air following a similar, um, you know, way of building a team that they know they have their guys.
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They know that their strength is on the defensive line in the front seven.
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Ah, but you know, if they get passed on, then they get passed on.
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They just have to put a points.
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So that's That's what it seems like they're going for.
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I don't know if I was, if I was verse areas I would not want.
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I mean, obviously he's he's a he's an offensive minded coach and he's a quarterback's guy, you know, and and he wants toe put points up.
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But I wouldn't wanna go look at the the Chiefs and go, I wanna I wanna copy that.
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Because what's face? Yes, they won the Super Bowl.
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Congrats to them, Very happy for me.
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But you can't tell me as a chief's fan that the entire playoffs, every playoff game that they that they played the first half you weren't like crap cannot be the fan of the other team.
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You think you know, because they were down three scores orm or two every playoff in every playoff game in the first half, you know? And they had to fight their way back in order to win that game.
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And that's I that would give the older generation fans heart attacks.
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I mean, come on.
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If you know you can't ride that roller coaster each and every game and and and be happy with with that in itself, because then I mean Goodloe little coming back that by that much every game that that would make when it actually happens.
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Less impressive.
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Right? Um, normally, when you see like the Atlanta Falcons, New England Super Bowl, When? When New England came back in the second half and that was a spectacular Oh, my gosh, how in the world did that happen? Kind of game.
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And yet Kansas City get it multiple times in one playoff series, right? So it kind of numb, You know, there's something like that and I don't want to be numb.
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That's something that's absolutely spectacular and unbelievable. That happens.
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Yeah, yeah, I get what you're saying because as a fan, e I mean, yeah, it's exciting, though, like, oh, we got Patrick Mahomes.
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I know we got a chance in this game.
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Still, even though we're down 24 to, right, you can.
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It's a good feeling toe have that You knowing you have the best quarterback in the league and knowing you're still in this game, no matter the score, But I don't believe, and this is going to sound hypocritical coming from a Ravens fan, but I don't believe it's sustainable, right? And it's funny because that's always one of the biggest criticisms the Ravens offense gets.
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But I just don't think having to come back every single playoff game.
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What happens if you meet a team? You know, like the Baltimore Ravens, that once you're down here down my friend, we have the defense to stop the Chiefs so down, if you're down 24, so I just don't think that the Chiefs can rely on that, But I think the Bucks air like you know what? The Chiefs won the Super Bowl that way.
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Let's just do it, man.
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Let's let's let's just focus on offense.
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Another team that seems to be doing the same and we could transition with this if you want is the Dallas Cowboys.
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Right? Because you just released, huh? Clinton? Dix.
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Oh, um, but before we move on, look at this.
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The jags.
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Listen, listen, Lawrence are also in the Clowney Sweet Stakes, or they're monitoring the situation.
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I wouldn't I wouldn't doubt it, actually, especially considering they just, you know, that they just in the last week let go three of their best players on the They just got rid of Ronnie Harrison to.
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So they had a Yes.
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Oh, wow.
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Yeah. No.
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Really? Yeah.
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Also, there. Really.
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They traded Ronnie Harrison to hold on.
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I didn't.
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Look, I must have missed that news.
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I've seen it.
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The Cleveland Browns.
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Oh, really? Yes.
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And I think they traded Ronnie Harrison to the Cleveland Browns.
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Will see if I get a lot of details for 1/5 round pick.
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Yeah, see, so I don't know what let I know we were gonna transition to the higher Clinton Dix news, but let's talk about Clowney real quick, if you don't mind, Lord. Sure.
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So I saw that it was either the titans of the Saints, for sure, But then I heard news about await.
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The Seahawks are also in it.
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And now I'm seeing, Oh, the Jags air in it.
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But then I also saw Benjamin Albright kind of hints that the Ravens are also in the sweepstakes, so I don't know what's going on again.
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This whole Clowney thing has been crazy all off season, and it doesn't look like that's going to stop until he signs the paper with whoever he decides signs the contract with whoever he actually decides.
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So it's It's crazy men.
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I figured that Clowney would get a team right around the beginning of the year.
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I knew that he was a little high, I figured, as the season starts to climb and get a little closer to opening Day, that he might start the lower his his number a little bit.
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Teams might start to raise their number when they realized we could really use a good edge defender, right? And it looks like that's possibly what's going on right now.
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And if the Jaguars and the Titans are both looking than my colts, yeah, got a grand Kelly, right, right, right.
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Well, we'll get into that later, But let's get into the Cowboys.
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Uh, getting rid of hot, I I don't think hof the same player he was three years ago.
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It has to be men.
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And because he's moved around from team to team the team quite a bit in those three years.
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Yeah, I remember he was pretty good safety at the time, but so this isn't really, ah, super important to the story, but just in case for the people that don't know that Ha ha.
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Clinton Dix his real name.
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I just discovered this today is a Sean Tresh on Clinton Dix.
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So just a little fun.
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Fact there, in case you guys were Were you just trying to make it easier on us America? Get his name be up that? Yep. Exactly.
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So, yes.
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So it's funny because I was actually discussing, you know, once we released Earl Thomas, and I don't know if this move is related to an Earl Thomas signing.
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Maybe that's what the Cowboys were planning on doing.
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I don't know.
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Um, but yeah, once we released Earl Thomas, actually.
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Ha ha.
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Clinton.
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Dix was one of the names we talked about because he was on a one year deal, I think, and he could possibly be a trade piece.
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You know, somebody that we could trade for.
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But now he's been cuts, and now I don't feel so good about it.
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Because the Cowboys, let's not forget that safety is one of their weakest positions on their team in the secondary.
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So the fact that a safety needy team just dropped Ha ha Clinton Dix, it doesn't make me feel good about it.
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Unless maybe the Cowboys air like, let's just, you know, take the l here and let's go with Earl Thomas, if that's what they're doing, that in this sense.
00:13:52
But also, I've heard that Ha ha Clinton Dix did not have the best training camp with the Cowboys, so apparently the young guys beat him out.
00:14:00
So maybe that's the case that maybe you're right, Lawrence, that he is just not the same player that he was a few years ago.
00:14:06
It's quite possible.
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I mean, sorry.
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There's a lot of training camp news.
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It's coming out all over the place, right? I mean, going back to the Bucks of Arians just basically trashed his offense right on one days, like I didn't even show up.
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They just like the whole offense, showed up in red shirts and reading their newspaper articles.
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Um, And then next thing you know, they signed for net. Yep.
00:14:33
Ah.
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Then you got, uh, the New England Pale.
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Bella.
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Check doing something. He never does.
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And he was talking up his starting quarterback, Cam Newton, like he was the greatest quarterback he'd ever seen when it came to, you know, preparing and and working, you know, on the field and stuff.
00:14:52
I don't remember one time.
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Bill Belichick going never.
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Man. Tom Brady is a workhorse.
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May comes in early leaves. Late works.
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What? The guys constantly trying to bit better.
00:15:05
He never talks about that, but he sure did with Cam Newton, and that was a big situation.
00:15:09
So, um, you hear a lot of a lot of training camp stuff, but and and some of it, you kind of gotta take with a grain of salt, because coaches and players generally are going to say good things, um, about their players, because that, you know, I mean, it's kind of an unspoken rule, right? You don't want trash your own guys, and then if you got guys that do trash your own guys, they generally don't stay on that team very long.
00:15:36
Yeah, that's true.
00:15:37
It's a good point.
00:15:38
Yeah, and Ah, something.
00:15:40
Well, we also didn't talk about is that apparently Cam Newton was named the starting quarterback.
00:15:45
Um, for me, it's not a surprise.
00:15:48
I know.
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I mean, I expected Camden.
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I mean, it would be pretty sad if Cam didn't win the starting job.
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And your, you know, your competition is either Jared Stadium or Brian Hoyer.
00:15:59
I mean, at that point, if Cam Newton doesn't win the starting job, you got to be concerned, right? If you're a Patriots fan.
00:16:05
So I think this had to be done, man. And I'm excited.
00:16:09
I think Cam is gonna ball out this season for the Patriots.
00:16:13
You know, another thing I don't we didn't get to talk about.
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Maybe you and Ray discussed earlier Is that Mohammed Sunu got cut.
00:16:20
So they're just continuing to get rid of Ah, get rid of weapons for Cam.
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So he's gonna It looks like he's gonna have to go super cam just like he did in 2015 where he didn't really have receivers.
00:16:32
But he still won that m v P award.
00:16:35
Not to say that he's going to do the same, but You know, I just don't like the Patriots receivers at all.
00:16:41
You cannot convince me that they're a good receiving corps.
00:16:44
I'm sorry.
00:16:45
And I know bad receiving course.
00:16:46
I'm a Ravens fan.
00:16:47
Right? So you can't sit there and tell me that McKeel Harry is someone that you're gonna put all your faith into.
00:16:54
Maybe you're hoping he can develop in his second season, But come on.
00:16:58
I mean, what else do they have there? I just don't feel good about camps weapons there.
00:17:03
No, but what I do like about, um, with Can is he's got an all offensive line.
00:17:11
Yeah, so he'll be ableto hold the ball a little bit longer.
00:17:14
Plus, he's got the legs that Tom where he didn't have to be able to extend to play truth before those wide receivers and running backs and tight ends.
00:17:22
They had a set amount of time to get open, period.
00:17:25
If they could Not Tom Brady had no possibility of extending a play to be able to get the ball to Cam does.
00:17:34
So Ah, and plus, you know, if Cam needs to, he could just tuck it and run.
00:17:38
Um, so I mean, the fit Vercammen.
00:17:41
New England is better then what the fit for Tom Brady in New England was last year.
00:17:47
I'm not saying that that, you know that can is a better quarterback Tom Brady.
00:17:51
I'm just saying specific fit wise.
00:17:54
I actually liked where Cam is now, as opposed to what Tom Brady is.
00:17:59
Joe.
00:18:00
So I mean, obviously, if Tom Brady had had Mike Evans and and and and Chris God went on Ah, on the New England, you probably he'd probably still be there.
00:18:12
Okay, Um, but all right, so let's talk about what else will go talk.
00:18:22
Ryan Kelly? Yes. Ranking.
00:18:24
He became the highest paid center in the NFL today after the Indianapolis Colts signed him to a four year extension.
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$12.
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5 million a year s.
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Oh, that's that's $50 million for four years with the Colts.
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Got him now for the next five years.
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According Teoh Uh, spotrac.
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Oh, and over the cat Murphy here.
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Uh, the previous highest paid center was Rodney Huntsman for the Raiders on.
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He got paid legitimate exactly $1 million a year less.
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So, um, it's not in, like, wow.
00:19:04
He got way paid over you know he's better than Rodney Hudson.
00:19:08
He's better than Mitch Morris.
00:19:10
Uh, Nick Martin on the Texans.
00:19:13
That's kind of, you know, Marcus marquees. Pouncey.
00:19:17
Uh, he's getting paid about 11.
00:19:20
It's funny because I'm looking at Cody White hair for the Bears who was drafted.
00:19:23
If I remember correctly about that, I think the exact same year and white hair is actually getting paid.
00:19:30
Ah, little over 10 million.
00:19:32
So and I think Kelly's twice the center white hair is, in my opinion.
00:19:38
But we talked about this before the stream started.
00:19:42
Man.
00:19:45
So many people talk about how the Indianapolis Colts have all this cap room and they don't spin this cap room.
00:19:52
Right? And what are they doing? Chris Ballads.
00:19:54
A terrible GM because he's not going out and getting talent for his team because he's got all this money.
00:20:00
But he knew he knew I got guys I gotta pay, right? I've got Ryan Kelly's I gotta pay.
00:20:08
I've got you know, next year, Darius Leonard and and Quinton Nelson.
00:20:14
Those are gonna be chunky changes right there.
00:20:18
I mean, I don't even want to know how much Quinton Nelson and various Leonard's gonna cost right especially Quinton Nelson, who you know is probably going to be the first guard ever to make more than 15 year.
00:20:30
I'd say that's a safe bet.
00:20:32
Yep, I definitely say that's a safe bet.
00:20:34
Um, yes.
00:20:36
So I think the Colts are playing a really good game here with their cap.
00:20:40
I think they're being very smart, you know, credit to where, Ah, that's That's what makes a good organization a good organization.
00:20:46
Not only are they drafting really well, but they're also saving up their cap and they're making good moves here.
00:20:53
You know, like the trade for DeForest Buckner, I thought was a good move, and, uh, they're doing a lot of good things men.
00:20:59
And I like this Ryan Kelly signing because, like I was talking about earlier, there's not, you know, a lot of good starting offensive linemen.
00:21:09
There's not even not enough to fill out all 32 teams.
00:21:12
So when you think about that, when you have even on above average offensive lineman, you have to pay it.
00:21:18
You have to make.
00:21:19
And the fact that Ryan Kelly is not only above average starting offensive linemen but also one of the best starting offensive linemen in the league.
00:21:28
You have to pay it.
00:21:30
And I mean, that's just how it goes, making him the highest paid center.
00:21:33
That was obvious.
00:21:34
Um, so yeah, I mean, obviously, I think it's a good move.
00:21:38
You have to pay the offensive line.
00:21:40
And, like you, said Lawrence, before you pay the running back, because, in my opinion, you can put anybody behind a good offensive line and they will be able to produce.
00:21:48
So, yeah, I mean, when it comes to offense, there's There's two ways of going about it.
00:21:53
The way the bucks we're going about it, which is you pay your skill positions and just hope that they are good enough like that door in talented that they can make up with the fact that the offensive line are is not great at making holes for the running backs and not great at protecting the quarterback.
00:22:11
Or you could invest a ton of money like the Dallas Cowboys did early on and put it in your offensive line.
00:22:20
That way, your quarterback, you could take an average quarterback behind a great offensive line and because he's got all day to throw the football.
00:22:28
He looks like a superstar, and and you could take an average running back.
00:22:32
And they look like a superstar because they've got, you know, semi truck sized holes that they could run through.
00:22:38
So that's your trigger, said right.
00:22:40
Well, yeah, an average running back, I said, not one that likes to wear blinders during, you know, before now games.
00:22:48
Uh, and even then the Colston having all offensive line at that point so turns Richardson.
00:22:55
He had blinders and he was behind the battle line.
00:22:58
It was just a bad situation all the way around.
00:23:04
So where do you think your team that's sitting right now when it comes to building instead? Do you think that they're focusing more on the offensive line? Or do you think they're more on this one? Uh, focus on the skill positions? Yes.
00:23:18
So, um, I think that right now the thing with the Ravens is that since we draft so well, we tend to find like these late round guards that just turn out to be beasts.
00:23:31
So, like we found a Bradley Boseman whose air starting left guard, we got him in the sixth round.
00:23:37
So, um and are starting center Matt scorer.
00:23:40
We got him undrafted.
00:23:41
So we tend to find these gems is just something we do when it comes to offensive line.
00:23:47
So that means we can be pretty cheap with the offensive line because we just you know what? Like we had Ryan Jensen ah a few years ago who ended up going to the Bucks at the time, who got to be the highest paid center.
00:23:59
I wanted to keep him on the Ravens because I thought he was really good.
00:24:03
But, you know, we just don't pay offensive lineman like that unless it's left tackles, of course, which is why I think we're gonna pay Ronnie Stanley and maybe Orlando Brown Jr.
00:24:13
I don't know if we're gonna pay him just yet, but yeah, I don't think we invest a lot into the offensive line.
00:24:19
But it's only because we draft so well and we just find these undrafted gems.
00:24:24
And also we have Lamar Jackson, who is, you know, the most mobile quarterback in the league.
00:24:29
So that's probably why they're not really too, you know, because we did lose Marshal Yanda and we just ended up signing D J.
00:24:37
Fluker, who I think is gonna be all right.
00:24:39
So, yeah, that's just kind of our formula.
00:24:42
Men, we don't really We're not like the colts.
00:24:44
You know, that just drafts Quentin Nelson in the first round, Ryan Kelly in the first round.
00:24:48
And, I mean, they're beasts, and that's a good way to do things, But yeah, that's just never the way we have done things I don't know.
00:24:55
Okay.
00:24:56
All right. Wine.
00:24:57
Um, if you're if you're, ah, really good at drafting specific people, then you lean on that, right? Like, right now I'm seeing Chris Ballard.
00:25:09
I think is an absolute stud at drafting, um, linebackers, right? Specifically linebackers, not just various letter, but the other linebackers a lot of people don't understand is there are very, very, very good.
00:25:25
And they're just overshadowed because Darius Leonard, um but so you can legitimately kind of if you need to, as you say, rotate that in and out one.
00:25:36
When their contract comes up moving on, go get a new one.
00:25:39
You know, same with people who are good at drafting, running backs cold.
00:25:43
So I think you are in that situation.
00:25:45
I think he's good at drafting running backs.
00:25:47
I mean, they're stabilised.
00:25:49
Nothing but guys that he has drafted over the previous three years.
00:25:54
And all three, All four of those guys that are on that stable or just are studs.
00:26:00
So, yeah, I feel like every team has that one position that they're just, like grated drafting, like no matter what.
00:26:08
Right? Um, the Steelers, for example, always find good receivers, no matter what round that is.
00:26:14
They always end up finding good receivers for one.
00:26:16
Ah, but us, On the other hand, we can't draft to receiver to save our lives.
00:26:21
It's just always been like that.
00:26:23
Well, not counting Hollywood Brown, of course, but that's a different GM.
00:26:26
So but yeah, man it.
00:26:28
I think it's interesting how you know how how different people do things.
00:26:32
But But, yeah, the Ravens, we definitely invest more in the defense.
00:26:36
That's just always how we've been.
00:26:37
We've always paid our defensive guys before paying the offensive pieces.
00:26:42
Like you said, you know the weak point.
00:26:44
Chris Ballard was having a very big issue drafting the three tech right, and in a 43 that is a very important position.
00:26:52
That defensive tackle opens up everything for your defensive in your linebackers, you know, stops to run.
00:26:59
So since he had issues doing that, he just said that with it.
00:27:02
You know, I'm gonna give a first round pick and drop a bunch of money on divorce Buckner and it's done.
00:27:07
It sticks, you know? It's a good move.
00:27:11
It's a good movie.
00:27:12
Think it is. Yeah.
00:27:14
Go out of your team to get whatever you don't have are not good at.
00:27:18
And then focus what you're good at on the inside.
00:27:21
So hey, Miami.
00:27:24
Yes.
00:27:25
That's what I was gonna say about Miami.
00:27:27
Miami is now talking about Hey, Josh, Roses on the block.
00:27:31
Anybody interested? Yeah.
00:27:33
Joe, do you think there's some teams out there that might be like, Hey, I could take a flier with a late round pick on this guy.
00:27:39
I think there should be.
00:27:41
I just don't know who who really is.
00:27:44
Looking for a quarterback right now may be the thing that sucks for Josh Rosen Menace that we've talked about it before.
00:27:51
I don't think he's gotten, you know, the good breaks.
00:27:53
I don't think he's got a good chance.
00:27:55
I loved him at U C L A man.
00:27:57
He he really showed me a lot of his time in U C l A.
00:28:01
Um, and I liked him.
00:28:03
I like him coming out, and I think that the Cardinals kind of did him dirty.
00:28:07
So, you know, drafting Kyler Murray.
00:28:08
But, you know, I guess it worked out for them in the end, so but ah, yeah, I definitely think he's worth it, I think.
00:28:16
I mean, like, if you're a team like the Ravens, I wouldn't make the move, obviously, because we're just not really looking for, you know, a backup.
00:28:24
Um, but maybe if you're a team like, I don't know, the bucks, maybe they could do that.
00:28:29
Or maybe, you know, a team that has, like, an older quarterback, and they don't really have a plan for, you know, for the second, um, the next.
00:28:41
I don't know what I'm thinking about.
00:28:42
You know what I'm talking about? Um, they could do it, but yeah, unfortunately, Josh Rosen, he's He's kind of been screwed, man.
00:28:50
He's been thrown around the league, and ah, it sucks because I was pretty high on Josh Rosen coming out for sure, but yeah.
00:28:56
Yeah, I definitely think that some teams Maybe the Colts are another team that could do that.
00:29:00
I would like to see among the Colts, I I actually, I was thinking I wouldn't mind a Ballard took a flier on him, but the trade couldn't happen until after this season, because the Colts just got too much money and too much on their quarterback spots right now, Rivers on a one year deal.
00:29:19
We're not getting rid of Rivers this year, getting rid of her set this year.
00:29:23
It's $25 million.
00:29:24
You let it happen and big.
00:29:27
We just drafted Jacoby's and he's having a pretty good camp, so, you know.
00:29:31
But an Eastern is the only quarterback that's on the Colts that is still contracting to play next year.
00:29:38
So if we can't keep Rivers, maybe we let, uh, Rivers go.
00:29:47
If he doesn't have a good season this year, maybe Jacoby percent may not want to pay him another $25 million.
00:29:55
Let him go.
00:29:57
Bring in Rosen and let Rosen and East and fight it out amongst each other and see what happens, You know, I mean, that's that's possible.
00:30:04
Or, you know, continue.
00:30:05
33 quarterback brah. Set.
00:30:08
Go.
00:30:09
It Rivers has a good season, don't resign per set, keep Rivers on the team.
00:30:14
And then you have Josh Rosen and Jacob easing behind him.
00:30:17
You know, learning from the old crafty that at quarterback.
00:30:20
I wouldn't mind that if it's a late round, like 1/6 round pick or something, you know? Yeah, I just hope Rose and gets a chance.
00:30:27
Man Bs.
00:30:29
I think he deserves it.
00:30:30
I know he's not necessarily the most exciting quarterback, you know.
00:30:34
So that's probably what cause, Let's be honest.
00:30:37
I feel like a bunch of pocket passers just don't get that chance anymore, especially when you're an average pocket passer.
00:30:43
So but I think it speaks a lot to what's going on in Miami that maybe they have a little more faith in two of them.
00:30:49
We might have originally thought, um, so I think that Fitzpatrick is still the starting quarterback for now, which I think is the right decision.
00:30:57
But we'll see men.
00:30:58
I think that definitely tells you that that the Dolphins have a lot of faith in to, uh and ah, you know, for their sake, I hope that, too.
00:31:07
It does turn out to be that guy because I think Miami deserves it.
00:31:11
They you know, they're they were, ah, great organization and team in, like, the seventies and eighties.
00:31:17
But then, you know, as of recently, it hasn't been that way.
00:31:20
So I'm hoping that's who is the one that turned him around.
00:31:22
Men, there's gotta be a joke here.
00:31:26
This has to be a joke.
00:31:27
Hold on.
00:31:28
Why? What do you saying? What are you seeing? What are you seeing? Alright, I'm sorry.
00:31:34
So, Art Rooney, uh, said that obviously after the season, we're going to re evaluate Ben Roethlisberger's contract situation along with other contract decisions we have to make.
00:31:45
But if Ben feels like playing longer and it looks like he's capable will be in a great scenario, we're excited to see what we see from been.
00:31:56
We have been excited at what we've seen from them so far. This camp.
00:32:02
Ben Roethlisberger could get extended.
00:32:04
Really? Yanks.
00:32:05
Oh, Amen up.
00:32:08
I'm loving it.
00:32:09
You know, I'm loving every second of it.
00:32:12
What if Well, okay, I will say this the surgery that Ben Roethlisberger had a lot of quarterbacks and a lot of pictures in the major league baseball love having this surgery because they end up coming back and that part of their shoulder is even stronger than what it was before hand.
00:32:33
He so Ah, Tommy John.
00:32:36
Surgery, I believe, is what it's called, right? Yeah.
00:32:38
So I think he actually had his elbow.
00:32:41
Yeah, but it's the same type, OK, it's the same type you know, is generally a lot, a lot on the shoulder or the elbow.
00:32:49
And it's a Tommy John surgery.
00:32:51
And they say that it actually strengthens that part of your body more so than before what happened with the injury.
00:32:59
So what if what if that happened with Ben Roethlisberger? You're gonna be upset again.
00:33:07
I just don't see it happening.
00:33:09
Man.
00:33:10
I'm sorry.
00:33:11
I think that Ben his way past his do.
00:33:13
It's about time for him to retire.
00:33:14
But you know, if the Steelers want to continue and just believe in Ben Roethlisberger, for whatever reason, I'm totally fine with it because, you know, the Steelers could just continue not making the playoffs as they haven't for the past couple of years.
00:33:27
And, ah, you know, I'll be happy to see them at six.
00:33:30
Intend this season with with an old injured Ben Roethlisberger.
00:33:34
Well, I will say one thing.
00:33:36
Uh, Pittsburgh Steelers.
00:33:37
Darn near made the playoffs last year off literally, their defense, right? I mean, their offense was awful last year and their defense almost got him into the playoffs so they could get any kind.
00:33:52
Uh, you just decent quarterback.
00:33:55
It only have to be great, like five years ago.
00:33:58
Ben Roethlisberger.
00:33:59
Just decent quarterback.
00:34:01
Play that and be able to have some sort of semblance of an offense.
00:34:06
They be it.
00:34:07
They could be a very good team, um, and really fight with the Ravens.
00:34:11
But they need that quarterback spot.
00:34:13
Yeah, I just don't know, man.
00:34:16
I and I get it like, you know, the whole argument that they had terrible quarterback play.
00:34:21
I totally understand it, and they still went, ate and ate with that defense.
00:34:25
I get it, I got it, but I just don't see it.
00:34:28
Maybe it's because I'm a Ravens fan, and I just, you know, as the Steelers, I don't want to see them succeed, obviously.
00:34:35
But I don't know, man, I just don't have any faith in Ben, and I think that Steelers fans are blinding themselves and just saying, Oh, yeah, Ben is gonna be totally fine.
00:34:44
He's gonna be better than when he was, uh I just don't see it happening.
00:34:49
I'm sorry.
00:34:50
I just really don't.
00:34:51
I think that the offense might be as bad as it was last year.
00:34:53
To be honest with you and, ah, with a tougher schedule, I just don't know if that's the recipe for success, To be honest with you.
00:35:01
Wow, that's That's so justus bad as last year with with Ben Roethlisberger, the quarterback, that That's a big statement.
00:35:08
I'm telling you, man, I have no faith, no faith in Bent at all.
00:35:12
I think that it's gonna be like the Eli Manning situation that Steelers fans like.
00:35:17
No, like he's still fine.
00:35:19
He can still play the position just fine.
00:35:21
They're gonna continue blinding themselves because he won two Super Bowls for them and it z Eli Manning situation all over again.
00:35:28
In my opinion, that's how I see now.
00:35:30
To be fair, is there another team in your division that, you know, you look at and go? They could be good or you just kind of blinded.
00:35:41
As you know, as a Ravens fan, they all suck I mean, like we talked about.
00:35:47
The Browns have everything they need.
00:35:49
The Browns have everything they need, right? But the problem is, they're the Browns, right? We have to see if they can actually do it because they had everything they needed last year to.
00:35:58
In my opinion, it's just that, you know, Freddie Kitchens was the coach, and Baker decided to suck because he spent all off season shooting commercials.
00:36:07
So yeah, no, I I definitely think that I'm not.
00:36:11
I'm not saying that I don't fear any of the teams in the division, because I I would be a fool to say so.
00:36:17
I do think I mean, the Steelers Air still going to give us tough games.
00:36:20
That's just how it is.
00:36:21
Ravens and Steelers is always a tough matchup.
00:36:23
It always is no matter what, no matter who is that quarterback.
00:36:27
But I'm more afraid of the Browns.
00:36:30
I'll tell you that.
00:36:31
Then the Steelers, for sure, definitely, I am.
00:36:33
I'm more worried about facing the Browns than I would have to go against the Steelers.
00:36:38
I'll just say that right now.
00:36:40
Do you think maker Mayfield's overrated? Or do you think his, uh, his focus just wasn't there and that he can play really, really good.
00:36:47
I think it was a multitude of things, man.
00:36:51
Last year that happened because I think he himself fed into the idea that Oh my God, I don't have to really work hard In the off season I was the rookie.
00:37:01
What? He wasn't rookie of the year, but he he broke the rookie passing touchdown record.
00:37:06
Um, you know, Oh, I they just added Odell Beckham Jr to the squad.
00:37:12
You know Kareem Hunt.
00:37:13
I don't have to work this off season.
00:37:15
I don't have to get better.
00:37:17
I could just walk in and win games.
00:37:19
And I think that that mindset plus you having Freddie Kitchens as your head coach who, as we know, was pretty bad, Terrible.
00:37:27
Not as bad as Hugh Jackson, obviously.
00:37:29
But you know, pretty up there.
00:37:31
Um, so all those factors, I think, is what got it.
00:37:34
I don't think Baker is overrated, per se.
00:37:37
I do think he hasn't necessarily lived up to the number one overall pick just yet, but I'm also a big believer in giving these young quarterback some time to develop.
00:37:46
Give him at least 34 years so we can really see what we got out of these guys.
00:37:51
So that's that's how I feel about Baker.
00:37:53
And Ah, so we'll see.
00:37:55
We'll see if, But I do believe if he just does not get it done this year, if he comes out and starts throwing four picks a game, five picks a game.
00:38:03
Oh, yeah, you got to get case Keenum in there.
00:38:06
Well, I mean it.
00:38:07
They're throwing for I don't care who's at quarterback and you throwing more five picks a game.
00:38:12
You're done.
00:38:14
If you go.
00:38:15
If you go three games averaging four interceptions a game, you probably never play another snap in the NFL.
00:38:21
Uh, and Peyton Manning did that.
00:38:24
He may not be blooding anymore, you know.
00:38:28
They gave him a chance after it's Ricky season, right? Yeah.
00:38:30
All right.
00:38:31
We got he broke out, rabbit.
00:38:32
There was games where he would throw 34 interceptions in the game.
00:38:36
And I'm not talking about rookie.
00:38:37
You're talking about this prime just against the Patriots or or the Ravens.
00:38:42
You know, the Ravens that gave him that that problem to address the Chargers did it to him.
00:38:48
Uh, this certain defense is in the NFL.
00:38:51
Have certain quarterbacks numbers? Yeah, that's just how it is.
00:38:54
Yeah, but again, I think Baker.
00:38:58
I'm hoping because from what I've seen, he does have the right mindset.
00:39:01
I really liked what he said at the end of last season, which was, You know what? I admit to it.
00:39:07
I kind of fed into my own BS.
00:39:09
I allowed myself to just take it easy and not really work hard.
00:39:13
So I'm hoping that this offseason, just because the Browns man like Dave, how many times a rare gonna reset a quarterback? How many times are they going to reset a coach? A GM like you? Just just for the sake of for some competition in the division? Man, come on, figure it out. Brown's.
00:39:31
This has to be the This has to be the year.
00:39:33
Oh, yeah, there's there's three things.
00:39:35
You cannot have a revolving door, and that's GM coach and quarterback like that, which is exactly what the Browns have had over the past 20 years.
00:39:43
That's it's just the truth of the matter, right? I mean, you cannot have you even if it's bad.
00:39:50
Like the Jaguars, they had Blaine Gabbert for a wild and then the next guy, but least they held him for a while, you know, just to be like, Is he good enough? You know? So, yeah, let me ask you something about the Jags.
00:40:06
Do you think they made a mistake by getting rid of Blake Bortles? And I know Blake Bortles wasn't an amazing quarterback, but after that, a f c championship year.
00:40:17
Do you think they made a mistake? Because I think that not that he was a good quarterback, but something about it.
00:40:22
He just had the chemistry with the team and it all worked.
00:40:25
You know, they all they all got to the A F C championship game.
00:40:27
And who's to say they couldn't have repeated it if they still had if they still had Blake Bortles? That's a tough decision.
00:40:34
Um, I liked Billy's.
00:40:39
He was a game manager, but he you know, he could take chances as well.
00:40:44
A lot of times, his chances didn't succeed.
00:40:46
I don't think he had the, uh, the weapons wide receiver wise outside.
00:40:54
I think duty, you know, for him toe to take the chances that he had to take on certain games I actually liked Bortles, Um, at that point, and I thought the Jaguar should not have moved on from him.
00:41:09
But Jaguars fans have had enough.
00:41:11
You know, they had to have a fall guy and they were manic full.
00:41:18
Yeah, I decided we'll go with Nick Fools rather than Blake Bortles.
00:41:21
And, you know, they have a fall guy and they blame, uh, Bortles on it.
00:41:28
I just I think it's just the offense.
00:41:30
He didn't have the right offense form, and it reminded me of the Ravens because I think Ray Lewis ended up coming out and saying that he didn't agree with the team getting rid of Trent Dilfer.
00:41:41
As bad as Trent Dilfer was.
00:41:43
But it was something about the team chemistry men, you know that it was work.
00:41:47
That's why we won the Super Bowl.
00:41:49
And we ended up getting rid of Trent Dilfer the very next season.
00:41:52
And then it took another 12 years for us to get back in the Super Bowl.
00:41:55
So I think maybe that's what happened with the Jags man, as you know, even though Bortles was an amazing but it's all about the locker room and the team chemistry If it's working, why are you gonna ruin it? You know? Well, that's true.
00:42:08
I mean, something snapped in that locker room.
00:42:10
It's pretty obvious.
00:42:12
I mean, obviously after the 2017 season, you had the entire rock locker room going.
00:42:18
Saxon, Bill Saxon, Jill.
00:42:20
You know, we're the best defense in the NFL.
00:42:23
And then they might have bought, you know, drink a little too much of their own Kool Aid, right and decided you.
00:42:30
We don't really have to work well with each other in order to Teoh perform the way we were or something.
00:42:35
I don't know exactly.
00:42:37
But I mean, there's only one guy left on that defense.
00:42:44
And that's Myles Jackman.
00:42:46
That's it.
00:42:47
That's that's raising bad.
00:42:48
That's easy.
00:42:49
Nothing, IHS, see the Jags, man, I'm telling you, it just such a bad organization, man.
00:42:57
It's such a bad organization.
00:42:59
I just how many times I've said it before? How many times have we seen them in the top five picking? And now they're resetting again because it does.
00:43:09
I got to say I don't believe in tanking all the time, but it does definitely look to me like the Jags are on the tank man.
00:43:16
They are fully on board the tank.
00:43:18
And it's like, What's the point? Yeah, take for 10 years.
00:43:22
Why do you continue to get tank? This is definitely a what I call a front office tank very similar to what Miami did last year. Right? Right.
00:43:31
Get rid of all the players that you think are overpaid or could be a bad locker room.
00:43:37
You know, situation, uh, keep the young guys that you believe can help you.
00:43:42
Ah, long term.
00:43:44
And just take the l for this year.
00:43:48
Obviously, your head coach, your players, they're gonna bust their butts and win because they're not just playing for their contracts on their team.
00:43:56
They're playing for contracts.
00:43:58
If they don't make the team, you.
00:44:00
The film they put out there is what you know other teams would be looking at to hire them for so they can't just go out and play that.
00:44:10
So they're out there playing for their lively hoods, coaches and end players.
00:44:15
So the only real way of tanking is that front office tank of getting, you know, doing what Jacksonville in Miami has been doing.
00:44:22
Yeah, it definitely looks like that's what's going on there Definitely on.
00:44:27
And I like the Miami comparison because I think that what the Jags might do this season I've been saying it is that I think that the front office is totally taking. Absolutely.
00:44:38
They're intending to tank for Trevor.
00:44:40
Lords, I think, is their their thought process.
00:44:43
But the team, like you, said, they're not just gonna lay down and lose games some purpose.
00:44:47
You don't want to put out bad tape, right? Um so I think the Jags themselves are gonna end up winning a few more games than the front office might want him to.
00:44:56
And because of Gardner Minshew, I think Gardner Minshew is gonna be, like a kind of fits magic type.
00:45:01
That's how I see Gardner, Minshew, Essman.
00:45:03
I feel like he has that little bit of just Oh, I'm gonna win this game because screw you.
00:45:08
You know, even though nobody's picking the Jacks to win, I don't care.
00:45:12
I'm gonna go out and win this game, and he does.
00:45:14
You know, that's what I see in Gardner Minshew.
00:45:16
So I don't know if they're gonna be the number one overall pick, so this might end up screwing them in the long run because what if the Jags end up being like the fifth pick or something like the Dolphins were this year? You know, well, I mean, there's there's, like, two quarterbacks that are there guaranteed on top, just like you know, there was well, not last year.
00:45:36
Beginning of the year last year, beginning of the year, $1 to, uh, yep, just to you.
00:45:40
But this year, you got two guys.
00:45:42
Obviously, Trevor having that that top spot.
00:45:45
But I want I want to mention something.
00:45:47
Earlier last week, we had a stream.
00:45:50
Where you we always talking about how the New Orleans Saints has Alvin Kamara for trade, right? Just kind of dropped them on the block.
00:45:59
They still want to re sign him.
00:46:01
But if they don't work out, then they'll they'll take options out there.
00:46:04
And I was like, Well, what if the Jags You know, what if what if the Jags offered because, well, scary was at the thought at the time.
00:46:14
I was like what? The Jags went and got him because they don't have four net no more and they got Camara and then the Jags end up having the worst record in the NFL.
00:46:25
And then the Saints have the first pick.
00:46:26
It able to pick trouble Lords be messed up. Yeah.
00:46:30
Then I had a jag.
00:46:31
Stan, you come up to me and DME and say, Hey, dude, you're forgetting something.
00:46:36
I was like, What? It was like.
00:46:37
We still have this year's Rams pick because they gave two first round picks, the 2020 and the 2021 draft it for the Rams for Jalen Ramsey So they could legitimately trade the Rand's first round pick and keep their and keep and keep that.
00:46:58
So that's a possibility.
00:47:00
And I was like, Wow, that opens things up because then you could go get Lawrence and you'd have an amazing running back that could really be a big help to a rookie quarterback.
00:47:11
Yeah, you know.
00:47:13
Yeah, see what? But at the same time, in order to do that, you can't be completely sold on the garden event.
00:47:20
You train? Yeah, exactly.
00:47:22
So that's it. That's the thing.
00:47:24
No, but I think if you're the Jags, that's not a bad move to make, because what else are you going to do? You need talent on your team, but definitely If it was me building a team, I would not make that move.
00:47:34
I would never trade a first round pick for a running back, but I think it would make kind of sense for the Jags if they were to do something like that.
00:47:42
Say they do have the first overall pick and they still have the Rams pick.
00:47:47
You know what? Well, why not? Let's get Camara, you know, But I don't know.
00:47:51
We'll have to see what happens with the Saints.
00:47:52
Last I heard, it does look like they're back on the same page, Um, that they re signed.
00:48:00
So hopefully that works out.
00:48:01
But yeah, I don't think that's a bad idea, but again, the Jags men, they're just What are they doing there? There's such a bad organization.
00:48:10
How long can there there? It's looking like the Browns, man.
00:48:15
It's list looking like like that bad of an organization right now, I just I just don't get it like I would understand if they've been, you know, in the playoffs, like continuously.
00:48:26
But they've only made it once in, like what? Like 15 20 years.
00:48:29
So I don't know, Man Joe's Drew with Brother Backer M J d.
00:48:35
Yeah, I just I just don't get it, man.
00:48:37
I I think more teams should take the approach that the Ravens did, which was in a rebuilding year.
00:48:45
We ended up going 14 and two.
00:48:47
That was supposed to be a rebuilding year.
00:48:50
And we also Yeah, because that's an option for every team.
00:48:53
Well, everything.
00:48:54
Hey, if you're rebuilding, just go for Tina to Hell.
00:48:58
I don't You destroyed a win games, but I am.
00:49:03
And I don't see why more teams don't go with that approach like rebuild while also trying to win.
00:49:09
You don't have to just suck for a whole season, you know, like at least try to win some games.
00:49:15
Try to push for the playoffs, so I just don't understand.
00:49:18
Your teams don't do that.
00:49:19
I fully agree, because with a winning mentality is harder to acquire and keep, then a losing mentality.
00:49:27
You get into this whole well, we're losing, we're losing.
00:49:30
It's hard to get out of that mentality.
00:49:32
Hard to start stringing together wins? Asked the Cleveland Browns.
00:49:36
They got that great team, but they've been sucking for so long that even with a great team around them, they can't seem to string Goodwin's together, right? Um so if you have an organization and you're fighting to win every game and you're really you know, even if it's a bad organization, you end up 79886 and 10.
00:49:57
At least you have some kind of pride.
00:49:59
They're saying, you know what? We went out there.
00:50:01
We busted our but our team is not up to par to where we want it to be.
00:50:07
And we know, Yeah, we busted our but we know what our limits are now and what we need to where we need to get better at, right? Yeah, that's the victim.
00:50:17
Because when you're doing what what Jacksonville's doing when you're doing what Miami is doing, what you're doing, what Cleveland did for so long.
00:50:24
You don't know where your weak spots You're just rolling talent in there and not really building a full team.
00:50:31
You're just saying, you know, we're gonna throw all these first for early round picks and and stuff like that and hope that it meshes, but you need to actually have a team built.
00:50:43
Figure out where your strengths and weaknesses are and build off of that and in order, the only way to do that.
00:50:50
It's for your team to be out there and busting their butts and winning, you know, even even on even when you're a bad team.
00:50:57
Yeah, I wonder, when was the last time that tanking has worked out for a team? That's something that I definitely want to think of.
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The first night came 99.
00:51:09
Was that the Colts the year that they drafted Peyton Manning? What are you going to stay? That's thing.
00:51:17
That less team.
00:51:18
I couldn't remember that it actually worked out for twice was the Colts is they got Peyton Manning and then they ended up getting Andrew luck.
00:51:24
I don't know if they actually honestly tank for Peyton.
00:51:27
Many.
00:51:28
I think that team was just bad right now.
00:51:30
Andrew Luck.
00:51:32
That was a situation where Peyton Manning was traded.
00:51:38
Peyton Manning got hurt and everybody in the organization knew that.
00:51:43
You know, the change of you know, everything was changing.
00:51:46
The coaches were going to be let go.
00:51:48
Ah, lot of players were gonna leave.
00:51:50
Peyton wasn't there, you know? I mean, you lost so much.
00:51:54
So that was basically Well, we're not going to do very well this year.
00:52:01
Because if that happens, sometimes but they but the colts know that they're gonna be right back in the mix of things because they're gonna continue to build up their team.
00:52:13
But I just don't see like I don't I can't think of the last time that you hear.
00:52:18
Oh, they're tanking, and then it ends up working out.
00:52:20
You just never you never see it happen.
00:52:22
I've never I don't remember.
00:52:24
I don't remember it.
00:52:25
We'll see.
00:52:26
What? Miami? Because I actually like what they acquired with Miami.
00:52:29
Yeah, they do a good They fought at the end of the last year and won re other last war.
00:52:35
I think, you know.
00:52:37
I mean, my goodness.
00:52:38
Ah, or three hours.
00:52:39
Last five. Maybe.
00:52:41
But either way, they fought their butts off.
00:52:44
They got a lot of good off season picks.
00:52:46
They got They got a lot of good draft picks.
00:52:48
So we'll see.
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We'll see what happens with him.
00:52:51
Yep. Yep.
00:52:52
Um, speaking of bad organizations, I don't know if you talked about this year, but my guy Dwayne Haskins is officially the starting Q B for the Washington football team.
00:53:03
How do you feel about that man? Not a big Dwayne Haskins friend.
00:53:09
I'm not.
00:53:10
I'm not.
00:53:11
I'm not a going Haskins fan.
00:53:12
Sorry, All you Washington football team fans.
00:53:15
I'm not. I'm not a fan of Dwayne Haskins.
00:53:17
Do I think that he can get better over time? Yes, I don't think he's the type of quarterback that can.
00:53:24
You could throw into the flash fire and for him to get better that way.
00:53:28
I think he's one of those guys you know where.
00:53:31
I don't think he's that sinker swim quarterback.
00:53:33
I think it's more of the quarterback where you need to let sit back and learn from someone.
00:53:38
But I get not wanting to put Alex Smith in.
00:53:41
I fully get that because I mean, the dude almost died.
00:53:45
He's lucky to be walking and you know, So I understand that and I understand that Duane asking is probably your best bat out all the other guys out there.
00:53:56
So you're you're giving your team the best chance to win without, you know, endangering the life of ah, veteran quarterback who definitely would give you the best chance to win.
00:54:06
I mean, let's face it, guys.
00:54:08
Alex Smith.
00:54:09
If his leg is healthy gives you a much better chance to win than Dwayne Haskins.
00:54:14
Freddie is just he would, he would.
00:54:18
But I got completely understand, not wanting to put him out there now if they start sucking and a few weeks go by, which I truly think that Washington is going to suck early on and in the middle and in the end.
00:54:33
But, um, let's say they go three or four weeks and don't can't get a win, right? Just bad.
00:54:41
That offense, Um, and Alex Smith still, you know, out there doing well in practices.
00:54:47
Maybe you throw him in for, you know, a few plays and let him play and see how he how he's going.
00:54:53
And if he can.
00:54:55
Then maybe that then maybe you could flip it over, get out, get get Dwayne off the field and let him learn behind somebody.
00:55:04
You know, that's I think Dwayne would be much better learning behind a good veteran quarterback than thrown thrown into the fire.
00:55:12
I just I don't know, man.
00:55:14
I feel like if Haskins is, like a bad, like, just horrible, like Peterman, levels of bad.
00:55:21
Yeah, I mean, it's probably a good idea to do things, but But I feel like it would demoralize Dwayne.
00:55:27
You know, if you just kind of bench him because he's thrown two picks in this game but say, you know, maybe he's won a game or two.
00:55:34
Um, it would be a little demoralizing, but yeah, I think if he's just terrible, like, just not showing any signs of development, like not showing any signs of life.
00:55:45
But even then men, I would I don't know.
00:55:47
As a coach, I would be pretty scared to put Alex Smith out there, man, because it would feel like his blood would be on your hands, right? Yeah, right.
00:55:55
Feel so? I don't know, man.
00:55:58
Washington isn't an interesting situation.
00:56:00
What if Dwayne gets hurt? Do you put Alex in? I mean, yeah.
00:56:05
I mean, you see how Dwayne plays.
00:56:07
He could legitimately get hurt, you know, rather quickly, especially with that offensive line.
00:56:16
Uh, you got You got old man Alex Smith.
00:56:20
That's got a leg that is biotic.
00:56:26
Um and then? And then you got the second.
00:56:29
What? The second oldest running back in the NFL running behind you.
00:56:33
We're kind of odd because the two oldest running backs in the NFL are still going strong, Which is okay, sure.
00:56:40
Going hard, going strong.
00:56:42
My goodness, They are beasts.
00:56:44
All right, Where We've been running an hour for just the two of us, Which I am incredibly impressed.
00:56:50
We went over the sco much news over the past 24 hours.
00:56:54
We was talking before the stream started.
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We were like, Man, what are we gonna cover? There's no really big news like, No, but there is a whole bunch of little bitty things that we could cover, and we did it.
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And I want to thank everybody that joined us here on SportsCastr Messy.
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Hey, guy. Welcome.
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Saw you earlier as well on our stream earlier with the follow followed me.
00:57:24
Actually, I think on Twitter as well.
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Um, So we have four people and 64 people watching live.
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There was up to 74 people that I noticed watching live Joke What? What? What does that say? If I could only see four people in the live chat, their names, but their 70 some people actually on the live the life button on the little person of her.
00:57:53
It sounds to me like there's a bunch of freeloaders in the chat.
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There's a bunch of loafers.
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There's guys, these.
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These are the guys that go to Costco to not buy anything and just eat the free samples.
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That's what it seems.
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That's what these guys are.
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Man created.
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**** profile on SportsCastr.
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It's easy. It's 123 ABC.
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You literally is just like walking into Costco.
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You can leave a chat down below.
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You can like the video.
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You know, you can do so many things, man.
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I just don't see what the point is of coming into a stream to not have an account.
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It just doesn't make any sense.
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SportsCastr account up there in the top.
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Right corner, I believe. I don't know.
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Yeah, you had it right? Okay.
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Super easy.
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You can link it to your twitter, your Facebook, your email.
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YouTube, I think I don't know.
00:58:45
There's other options there.
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There's so many options, man.
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It's super easy.
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I just is super simple.
00:58:50
I don't know how many times We have to tell you this.
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So many six live people now.
00:58:55
Yeah.
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So just make an account, man, and then you can actually join the chat.
00:58:59
And you could argue with us because Absolutely.
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Yeah.
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00:59:03
I mean, I've been checking the chat the whole time.
00:59:05
If anyone would have said something, we would have jumped on it.
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I don't care.
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You could have said just about anything.
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I mean, obviously, if you're certain political things, if you just want told and obviously I'm not gonna give you any mind.
00:59:19
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00:59:29
Uh, it's getting to the point now, personally, Joe, where I'm about done doing this at the end of the stream.
00:59:36
I think I want to start doing this in the 1st 15 minutes of the streams because I'm tired of seeing all these people jumping on here.
00:59:45
You did.
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You guys know? I mean, it don't take much to make that account right? Love is because if you have an account, then that's showing us respect.
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Leonard Fournette agrees to deal with Buccaneers

Apparently former Jacksonville Jaguars running back Leonard Fournette won’t be leaving the state of Florida after all, as the veteran rusher reportedly has a new home. According to a Wednesday evening report from Adam Schefter of ESPN, Fournette has agreed to a free agent contract with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, who are obviously on a […]

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my TV waiting, leading, waiting.
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It's not going out.
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There it is. There it is.
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All right, guys, Welcome The SportsCastr news.
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I'm Laurence Owen with me today, As you see, is my boy Joe Nouveau.
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What up? Rare Out won't be here this evening because he was with me on an earlier stream.
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So that kind of, you know, killed his daily quota of one a day.
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And today we're actually get through a few different types of news That has spark over the last 24 hours that we haven't been able to cover as of late.
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Just really excited about covering this and so on my, um, first thing we're gonna go over obviously is, you know, the title right here for net and the Buccaneers.
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He signs a one year, $2 million with the option to make $3.
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5 million depending upon you know how well he does in such So Joe, what do you think about for not going to the bucks? I think this is a great move for both sides.
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I think it works really well because we've talked about the bucks, man, that they just don't really have that running game.
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You know, your that was probably one of their only weakness is on offense that you just weren't sure about.
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But now I believe, for Net adds that, too.
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And I mean, it does suck if you're a fantasy player like myself, and you drafted Ronald Jones because you were expecting him to take all the starting role.
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But now they signed Leonard Fournette.
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But you know, that's that's just how it is, man.
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I get screwed all the time in fantasy, So but I digress.
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I do like this move in a reality football perspective.
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I think that for net had we were talking about it.
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He had a pretty good season last year.
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I think he put up about 1700 yards.
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If I'm not mistaken, total.
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So, yeah, I mean, I mean, the biggest thing with four net is if he can stay healthy, right? And I think if he can stay healthy and especially because he doesn't have to be the workhorse running back for the Bucks, I think he's going to split carries with Row Joe without with LaShawn McCoy, who they just signed.
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So I think this is a great situation for Fernet Sabian.
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And I mean, it obviously adds to that already scary books offense.
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And, uh, you know, Brady finally has that running back.
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So I think that this works really well for both sides.
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I think for net, you know, he doesn't have to go very far.
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Jacksonville Tampa So he'll definitely take that.
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Eso Yeah, I really like the move.
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I think it it's it's a really good move for both sides, so Yeah, but my it seems like the buccaneers right now are really stacking all their eggs in one basket, don't you think? I mean, it seems like they're, like, all office.
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Let's go all office.
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We don't care.
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We mean, they still have the number one run defense in football last year, right? They only gave up, like, 3.
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3 yards a carry or something like that.
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But they also had in dumb making su right then, But yeah, I think that will do.
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OK, Is he still under? Yeah, they got a nasty D line.
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Um, but what What hurt him is their cornerbacks that you're their defense of back suck, right? I mean, suck.
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So they might be putting up points but they're going to have to because other teams, if they could throw the football like, say, the Saints, who are, you know, same division, they're gonna be throwing all over them as well.
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And they're going to be putting up points.
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So, um, it's kind of interesting.
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Your this is this is office.
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This is a team that feels like it's kind of built, very similar.
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Um, you know, Kansas City wise not not necessarily speed and all that.
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But fireworks.
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You know, it's all about the fireworks and and trying to get the fans attention with four net going to the offense, that's that's like you said.
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I mean, he had nearly 1200 yards rushing on his first riel healthy season of the in his career.
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Many had 76 catches.
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It was like fourth of the NFL last year, and running backs were catches with kind of flies under the radar because you don't expect for net toe have like a bunch of catches.
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But he had a ton of them from Gardner Major.
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Yes, and when you know when he got signed, Brady's like, Are you telling me I could throw the football to LaShawn McCoy or Leonard for Yep, loves that.
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Oh, look in there.
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Oh, yeah, because you know, I mean, it's all offensive line is not that good.
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You know, it s so he's going to have to get rid of that ball quick.
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So, you know, running backs or one of the best best people on that offense to dump that ball off too quick for a quick out.
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So, um, yeah, well, maybe Maybe that's why they wanted to add a LaShawn McCoy and Leonard for net for Tom Brady.
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Because, you know, Bruce Arians is probably like, Oh, man, you know this this practice, Tom Brady just hasn't been able to throw deep at all.
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So let's just let's get him some check down options here with LaShawn, McCoy and Leonard for net, especially because our old line is getting tourney up by shack buried in all the D line there on that side.
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So, um, you know, let's get him some outlets.
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Let's get him some outlets.
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So yeah, again, I've been saying it, man.
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Bruce Arians is not stupid.
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He's gonna build the offense for Brady.
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That's what, like, I don't understand why people don't believe Tom Brady can't succeed in this offense.
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I'm not saying that he's gonna you know, it's I don't think it's gonna be amazing.
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Deep throws every game, but you're going to see some deep throws.
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You.
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I mean, you have the receivers to do so.
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But now you have a multi dimensional offense with these backs that are capable of receiving.
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And we know Brady loves his receiving back.
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So, yeah, I mean, I think this offense is really starting to come together for the Bucks.
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Um, but I wanted to go back to what you said about how they're kind of because we've always said it's a copycat Lee.
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So it doesn't seem like the Bucks are kind of taking that Chiefs standpoint that you don't have to have a top five defense to compete nowadays.
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I mean, that does work, and you can get pretty far like in the playoffs with a really good defense.
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But mostly, most of these successful teams, you see them have like a top five offense and maybe like a top 15 defense, you know, you don't have to necessarily have both, like the Chiefs just showed you last year.
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They had a top three offense and maybe, like a top 15 top 10 at best defense.
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So I think the Bucks air following a similar, um, you know, way of building a team that they know they have their guys.
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They know that their strength is on the defensive line in the front seven.
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Ah, but you know, if they get passed on, then they get passed on.
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They just have to put a points.
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So that's That's what it seems like they're going for.
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I don't know if I was, if I was verse areas I would not want.
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I mean, obviously he's he's a he's an offensive minded coach and he's a quarterback's guy, you know, and and he wants toe put points up.
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But I wouldn't wanna go look at the the Chiefs and go, I wanna I wanna copy that.
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Because what's face? Yes, they won the Super Bowl.
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Congrats to them, Very happy for me.
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But you can't tell me as a chief's fan that the entire playoffs, every playoff game that they that they played the first half you weren't like crap cannot be the fan of the other team.
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You think you know, because they were down three scores orm or two every playoff in every playoff game in the first half, you know? And they had to fight their way back in order to win that game.
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And that's I that would give the older generation fans heart attacks.
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I mean, come on.
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If you know you can't ride that roller coaster each and every game and and and be happy with with that in itself, because then I mean Goodloe little coming back that by that much every game that that would make when it actually happens.
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Less impressive.
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Right? Um, normally, when you see like the Atlanta Falcons, New England Super Bowl, When? When New England came back in the second half and that was a spectacular Oh, my gosh, how in the world did that happen? Kind of game.
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And yet Kansas City get it multiple times in one playoff series, right? So it kind of numb, You know, there's something like that and I don't want to be numb.
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That's something that's absolutely spectacular and unbelievable. That happens.
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Yeah, yeah, I get what you're saying because as a fan, e I mean, yeah, it's exciting, though, like, oh, we got Patrick Mahomes.
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I know we got a chance in this game.
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Still, even though we're down 24 to, right, you can.
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It's a good feeling toe have that You knowing you have the best quarterback in the league and knowing you're still in this game, no matter the score, But I don't believe, and this is going to sound hypocritical coming from a Ravens fan, but I don't believe it's sustainable, right? And it's funny because that's always one of the biggest criticisms the Ravens offense gets.
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But I just don't think having to come back every single playoff game.
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What happens if you meet a team? You know, like the Baltimore Ravens, that once you're down here down my friend, we have the defense to stop the Chiefs so down, if you're down 24, so I just don't think that the Chiefs can rely on that, But I think the Bucks air like you know what? The Chiefs won the Super Bowl that way.
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Let's just do it, man.
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Let's let's let's just focus on offense.
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Another team that seems to be doing the same and we could transition with this if you want is the Dallas Cowboys.
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Right? Because you just released, huh? Clinton? Dix.
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Oh, um, but before we move on, look at this.
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The jags.
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Listen, listen, Lawrence are also in the Clowney Sweet Stakes, or they're monitoring the situation.
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I wouldn't I wouldn't doubt it, actually, especially considering they just, you know, that they just in the last week let go three of their best players on the They just got rid of Ronnie Harrison to.
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So they had a Yes.
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Oh, wow.
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Yeah. No.
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Really? Yeah.
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Also, there. Really.
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They traded Ronnie Harrison to hold on.
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I didn't.
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Look, I must have missed that news.
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I've seen it.
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The Cleveland Browns.
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Oh, really? Yes.
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And I think they traded Ronnie Harrison to the Cleveland Browns.
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Will see if I get a lot of details for 1/5 round pick.
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Yeah, see, so I don't know what let I know we were gonna transition to the higher Clinton Dix news, but let's talk about Clowney real quick, if you don't mind, Lord. Sure.
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So I saw that it was either the titans of the Saints, for sure, But then I heard news about await.
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The Seahawks are also in it.
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And now I'm seeing, Oh, the Jags air in it.
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But then I also saw Benjamin Albright kind of hints that the Ravens are also in the sweepstakes, so I don't know what's going on again.
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This whole Clowney thing has been crazy all off season, and it doesn't look like that's going to stop until he signs the paper with whoever he decides signs the contract with whoever he actually decides.
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So it's It's crazy men.
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I figured that Clowney would get a team right around the beginning of the year.
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I knew that he was a little high, I figured, as the season starts to climb and get a little closer to opening Day, that he might start the lower his his number a little bit.
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Teams might start to raise their number when they realized we could really use a good edge defender, right? And it looks like that's possibly what's going on right now.
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And if the Jaguars and the Titans are both looking than my colts, yeah, got a grand Kelly, right, right, right.
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Well, we'll get into that later, But let's get into the Cowboys.
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Uh, getting rid of hot, I I don't think hof the same player he was three years ago.
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It has to be men.
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And because he's moved around from team to team the team quite a bit in those three years.
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Yeah, I remember he was pretty good safety at the time, but so this isn't really, ah, super important to the story, but just in case for the people that don't know that Ha ha.
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Clinton Dix his real name.
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I just discovered this today is a Sean Tresh on Clinton Dix.
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So just a little fun.
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Fact there, in case you guys were Were you just trying to make it easier on us America? Get his name be up that? Yep. Exactly.
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So, yes.
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So it's funny because I was actually discussing, you know, once we released Earl Thomas, and I don't know if this move is related to an Earl Thomas signing.
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Maybe that's what the Cowboys were planning on doing.
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I don't know.
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Um, but yeah, once we released Earl Thomas, actually.
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Ha ha.
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Clinton.
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Dix was one of the names we talked about because he was on a one year deal, I think, and he could possibly be a trade piece.
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You know, somebody that we could trade for.
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But now he's been cuts, and now I don't feel so good about it.
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Because the Cowboys, let's not forget that safety is one of their weakest positions on their team in the secondary.
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So the fact that a safety needy team just dropped Ha ha Clinton Dix, it doesn't make me feel good about it.
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Unless maybe the Cowboys air like, let's just, you know, take the l here and let's go with Earl Thomas, if that's what they're doing, that in this sense.
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But also, I've heard that Ha ha Clinton Dix did not have the best training camp with the Cowboys, so apparently the young guys beat him out.
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So maybe that's the case that maybe you're right, Lawrence, that he is just not the same player that he was a few years ago.
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It's quite possible.
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I mean, sorry.
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There's a lot of training camp news.
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It's coming out all over the place, right? I mean, going back to the Bucks of Arians just basically trashed his offense right on one days, like I didn't even show up.
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They just like the whole offense, showed up in red shirts and reading their newspaper articles.
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Um, And then next thing you know, they signed for net. Yep.
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Ah.
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Then you got, uh, the New England Pale.
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Bella.
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Check doing something. He never does.
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And he was talking up his starting quarterback, Cam Newton, like he was the greatest quarterback he'd ever seen when it came to, you know, preparing and and working, you know, on the field and stuff.
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I don't remember one time.
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Bill Belichick going never.
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Man. Tom Brady is a workhorse.
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May comes in early leaves. Late works.
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What? The guys constantly trying to bit better.
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He never talks about that, but he sure did with Cam Newton, and that was a big situation.
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So, um, you hear a lot of a lot of training camp stuff, but and and some of it, you kind of gotta take with a grain of salt, because coaches and players generally are going to say good things, um, about their players, because that, you know, I mean, it's kind of an unspoken rule, right? You don't want trash your own guys, and then if you got guys that do trash your own guys, they generally don't stay on that team very long.
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Yeah, that's true.
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It's a good point.
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Yeah, and Ah, something.
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Well, we also didn't talk about is that apparently Cam Newton was named the starting quarterback.
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Um, for me, it's not a surprise.
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I know.
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I mean, I expected Camden.
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I mean, it would be pretty sad if Cam didn't win the starting job.
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And your, you know, your competition is either Jared Stadium or Brian Hoyer.
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I mean, at that point, if Cam Newton doesn't win the starting job, you got to be concerned, right? If you're a Patriots fan.
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So I think this had to be done, man. And I'm excited.
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I think Cam is gonna ball out this season for the Patriots.
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You know, another thing I don't we didn't get to talk about.
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Maybe you and Ray discussed earlier Is that Mohammed Sunu got cut.
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So they're just continuing to get rid of Ah, get rid of weapons for Cam.
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So he's gonna It looks like he's gonna have to go super cam just like he did in 2015 where he didn't really have receivers.
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But he still won that m v P award.
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Not to say that he's going to do the same, but You know, I just don't like the Patriots receivers at all.
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You cannot convince me that they're a good receiving corps.
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I'm sorry.
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And I know bad receiving course.
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I'm a Ravens fan.
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Right? So you can't sit there and tell me that McKeel Harry is someone that you're gonna put all your faith into.
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Maybe you're hoping he can develop in his second season, But come on.
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I mean, what else do they have there? I just don't feel good about camps weapons there.
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No, but what I do like about, um, with Can is he's got an all offensive line.
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Yeah, so he'll be ableto hold the ball a little bit longer.
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Plus, he's got the legs that Tom where he didn't have to be able to extend to play truth before those wide receivers and running backs and tight ends.
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They had a set amount of time to get open, period.
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If they could Not Tom Brady had no possibility of extending a play to be able to get the ball to Cam does.
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So Ah, and plus, you know, if Cam needs to, he could just tuck it and run.
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Um, so I mean, the fit Vercammen.
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New England is better then what the fit for Tom Brady in New England was last year.
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I'm not saying that that, you know that can is a better quarterback Tom Brady.
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I'm just saying specific fit wise.
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I actually liked where Cam is now, as opposed to what Tom Brady is.
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Joe.
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So I mean, obviously, if Tom Brady had had Mike Evans and and and and Chris God went on Ah, on the New England, you probably he'd probably still be there.
00:18:12
Okay, Um, but all right, so let's talk about what else will go talk.
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Ryan Kelly? Yes. Ranking.
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He became the highest paid center in the NFL today after the Indianapolis Colts signed him to a four year extension.
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$12.
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5 million a year s.
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Oh, that's that's $50 million for four years with the Colts.
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Got him now for the next five years.
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According Teoh Uh, spotrac.
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Oh, and over the cat Murphy here.
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Uh, the previous highest paid center was Rodney Huntsman for the Raiders on.
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He got paid legitimate exactly $1 million a year less.
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So, um, it's not in, like, wow.
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He got way paid over you know he's better than Rodney Hudson.
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He's better than Mitch Morris.
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Uh, Nick Martin on the Texans.
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That's kind of, you know, Marcus marquees. Pouncey.
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Uh, he's getting paid about 11.
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It's funny because I'm looking at Cody White hair for the Bears who was drafted.
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If I remember correctly about that, I think the exact same year and white hair is actually getting paid.
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Ah, little over 10 million.
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So and I think Kelly's twice the center white hair is, in my opinion.
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But we talked about this before the stream started.
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Man.
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So many people talk about how the Indianapolis Colts have all this cap room and they don't spin this cap room.
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Right? And what are they doing? Chris Ballads.
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A terrible GM because he's not going out and getting talent for his team because he's got all this money.
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But he knew he knew I got guys I gotta pay, right? I've got Ryan Kelly's I gotta pay.
00:20:08
I've got you know, next year, Darius Leonard and and Quinton Nelson.
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Those are gonna be chunky changes right there.
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I mean, I don't even want to know how much Quinton Nelson and various Leonard's gonna cost right especially Quinton Nelson, who you know is probably going to be the first guard ever to make more than 15 year.
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I'd say that's a safe bet.
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Yep, I definitely say that's a safe bet.
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Um, yes.
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So I think the Colts are playing a really good game here with their cap.
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I think they're being very smart, you know, credit to where, Ah, that's That's what makes a good organization a good organization.
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Not only are they drafting really well, but they're also saving up their cap and they're making good moves here.
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You know, like the trade for DeForest Buckner, I thought was a good move, and, uh, they're doing a lot of good things men.
00:20:59
And I like this Ryan Kelly signing because, like I was talking about earlier, there's not, you know, a lot of good starting offensive linemen.
00:21:09
There's not even not enough to fill out all 32 teams.
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So when you think about that, when you have even on above average offensive lineman, you have to pay it.
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You have to make.
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And the fact that Ryan Kelly is not only above average starting offensive linemen but also one of the best starting offensive linemen in the league.
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You have to pay it.
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And I mean, that's just how it goes, making him the highest paid center.
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That was obvious.
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Um, so yeah, I mean, obviously, I think it's a good move.
00:21:38
You have to pay the offensive line.
00:21:40
And, like you, said Lawrence, before you pay the running back, because, in my opinion, you can put anybody behind a good offensive line and they will be able to produce.
00:21:48
So, yeah, I mean, when it comes to offense, there's There's two ways of going about it.
00:21:53
The way the bucks we're going about it, which is you pay your skill positions and just hope that they are good enough like that door in talented that they can make up with the fact that the offensive line are is not great at making holes for the running backs and not great at protecting the quarterback.
00:22:11
Or you could invest a ton of money like the Dallas Cowboys did early on and put it in your offensive line.
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That way, your quarterback, you could take an average quarterback behind a great offensive line and because he's got all day to throw the football.
00:22:28
He looks like a superstar, and and you could take an average running back.
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And they look like a superstar because they've got, you know, semi truck sized holes that they could run through.
00:22:38
So that's your trigger, said right.
00:22:40
Well, yeah, an average running back, I said, not one that likes to wear blinders during, you know, before now games.
00:22:48
Uh, and even then the Colston having all offensive line at that point so turns Richardson.
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He had blinders and he was behind the battle line.
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It was just a bad situation all the way around.
00:23:04
So where do you think your team that's sitting right now when it comes to building instead? Do you think that they're focusing more on the offensive line? Or do you think they're more on this one? Uh, focus on the skill positions? Yes.
00:23:18
So, um, I think that right now the thing with the Ravens is that since we draft so well, we tend to find like these late round guards that just turn out to be beasts.
00:23:31
So, like we found a Bradley Boseman whose air starting left guard, we got him in the sixth round.
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So, um and are starting center Matt scorer.
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We got him undrafted.
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So we tend to find these gems is just something we do when it comes to offensive line.
00:23:47
So that means we can be pretty cheap with the offensive line because we just you know what? Like we had Ryan Jensen ah a few years ago who ended up going to the Bucks at the time, who got to be the highest paid center.
00:23:59
I wanted to keep him on the Ravens because I thought he was really good.
00:24:03
But, you know, we just don't pay offensive lineman like that unless it's left tackles, of course, which is why I think we're gonna pay Ronnie Stanley and maybe Orlando Brown Jr.
00:24:13
I don't know if we're gonna pay him just yet, but yeah, I don't think we invest a lot into the offensive line.
00:24:19
But it's only because we draft so well and we just find these undrafted gems.
00:24:24
And also we have Lamar Jackson, who is, you know, the most mobile quarterback in the league.
00:24:29
So that's probably why they're not really too, you know, because we did lose Marshal Yanda and we just ended up signing D J.
00:24:37
Fluker, who I think is gonna be all right.
00:24:39
So, yeah, that's just kind of our formula.
00:24:42
Men, we don't really We're not like the colts.
00:24:44
You know, that just drafts Quentin Nelson in the first round, Ryan Kelly in the first round.
00:24:48
And, I mean, they're beasts, and that's a good way to do things, But yeah, that's just never the way we have done things I don't know.
00:24:55
Okay.
00:24:56
All right. Wine.
00:24:57
Um, if you're if you're, ah, really good at drafting specific people, then you lean on that, right? Like, right now I'm seeing Chris Ballard.
00:25:09
I think is an absolute stud at drafting, um, linebackers, right? Specifically linebackers, not just various letter, but the other linebackers a lot of people don't understand is there are very, very, very good.
00:25:25
And they're just overshadowed because Darius Leonard, um but so you can legitimately kind of if you need to, as you say, rotate that in and out one.
00:25:36
When their contract comes up moving on, go get a new one.
00:25:39
You know, same with people who are good at drafting, running backs cold.
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So I think you are in that situation.
00:25:45
I think he's good at drafting running backs.
00:25:47
I mean, they're stabilised.
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Nothing but guys that he has drafted over the previous three years.
00:25:54
And all three, All four of those guys that are on that stable or just are studs.
00:26:00
So, yeah, I feel like every team has that one position that they're just, like grated drafting, like no matter what.
00:26:08
Right? Um, the Steelers, for example, always find good receivers, no matter what round that is.
00:26:14
They always end up finding good receivers for one.
00:26:16
Ah, but us, On the other hand, we can't draft to receiver to save our lives.
00:26:21
It's just always been like that.
00:26:23
Well, not counting Hollywood Brown, of course, but that's a different GM.
00:26:26
So but yeah, man it.
00:26:28
I think it's interesting how you know how how different people do things.
00:26:32
But But, yeah, the Ravens, we definitely invest more in the defense.
00:26:36
That's just always how we've been.
00:26:37
We've always paid our defensive guys before paying the offensive pieces.
00:26:42
Like you said, you know the weak point.
00:26:44
Chris Ballard was having a very big issue drafting the three tech right, and in a 43 that is a very important position.
00:26:52
That defensive tackle opens up everything for your defensive in your linebackers, you know, stops to run.
00:26:59
So since he had issues doing that, he just said that with it.
00:27:02
You know, I'm gonna give a first round pick and drop a bunch of money on divorce Buckner and it's done.
00:27:07
It sticks, you know? It's a good move.
00:27:11
It's a good movie.
00:27:12
Think it is. Yeah.
00:27:14
Go out of your team to get whatever you don't have are not good at.
00:27:18
And then focus what you're good at on the inside.
00:27:21
So hey, Miami.
00:27:24
Yes.
00:27:25
That's what I was gonna say about Miami.
00:27:27
Miami is now talking about Hey, Josh, Roses on the block.
00:27:31
Anybody interested? Yeah.
00:27:33
Joe, do you think there's some teams out there that might be like, Hey, I could take a flier with a late round pick on this guy.
00:27:39
I think there should be.
00:27:41
I just don't know who who really is.
00:27:44
Looking for a quarterback right now may be the thing that sucks for Josh Rosen Menace that we've talked about it before.
00:27:51
I don't think he's gotten, you know, the good breaks.
00:27:53
I don't think he's got a good chance.
00:27:55
I loved him at U C L A man.
00:27:57
He he really showed me a lot of his time in U C l A.
00:28:01
Um, and I liked him.
00:28:03
I like him coming out, and I think that the Cardinals kind of did him dirty.
00:28:07
So, you know, drafting Kyler Murray.
00:28:08
But, you know, I guess it worked out for them in the end, so but ah, yeah, I definitely think he's worth it, I think.
00:28:16
I mean, like, if you're a team like the Ravens, I wouldn't make the move, obviously, because we're just not really looking for, you know, a backup.
00:28:24
Um, but maybe if you're a team like, I don't know, the bucks, maybe they could do that.
00:28:29
Or maybe, you know, a team that has, like, an older quarterback, and they don't really have a plan for, you know, for the second, um, the next.
00:28:41
I don't know what I'm thinking about.
00:28:42
You know what I'm talking about? Um, they could do it, but yeah, unfortunately, Josh Rosen, he's He's kind of been screwed, man.
00:28:50
He's been thrown around the league, and ah, it sucks because I was pretty high on Josh Rosen coming out for sure, but yeah.
00:28:56
Yeah, I definitely think that some teams Maybe the Colts are another team that could do that.
00:29:00
I would like to see among the Colts, I I actually, I was thinking I wouldn't mind a Ballard took a flier on him, but the trade couldn't happen until after this season, because the Colts just got too much money and too much on their quarterback spots right now, Rivers on a one year deal.
00:29:19
We're not getting rid of Rivers this year, getting rid of her set this year.
00:29:23
It's $25 million.
00:29:24
You let it happen and big.
00:29:27
We just drafted Jacoby's and he's having a pretty good camp, so, you know.
00:29:31
But an Eastern is the only quarterback that's on the Colts that is still contracting to play next year.
00:29:38
So if we can't keep Rivers, maybe we let, uh, Rivers go.
00:29:47
If he doesn't have a good season this year, maybe Jacoby percent may not want to pay him another $25 million.
00:29:55
Let him go.
00:29:57
Bring in Rosen and let Rosen and East and fight it out amongst each other and see what happens, You know, I mean, that's that's possible.
00:30:04
Or, you know, continue.
00:30:05
33 quarterback brah. Set.
00:30:08
Go.
00:30:09
It Rivers has a good season, don't resign per set, keep Rivers on the team.
00:30:14
And then you have Josh Rosen and Jacob easing behind him.
00:30:17
You know, learning from the old crafty that at quarterback.
00:30:20
I wouldn't mind that if it's a late round, like 1/6 round pick or something, you know? Yeah, I just hope Rose and gets a chance.
00:30:27
Man Bs.
00:30:29
I think he deserves it.
00:30:30
I know he's not necessarily the most exciting quarterback, you know.
00:30:34
So that's probably what cause, Let's be honest.
00:30:37
I feel like a bunch of pocket passers just don't get that chance anymore, especially when you're an average pocket passer.
00:30:43
So but I think it speaks a lot to what's going on in Miami that maybe they have a little more faith in two of them.
00:30:49
We might have originally thought, um, so I think that Fitzpatrick is still the starting quarterback for now, which I think is the right decision.
00:30:57
But we'll see men.
00:30:58
I think that definitely tells you that that the Dolphins have a lot of faith in to, uh and ah, you know, for their sake, I hope that, too.
00:31:07
It does turn out to be that guy because I think Miami deserves it.
00:31:11
They you know, they're they were, ah, great organization and team in, like, the seventies and eighties.
00:31:17
But then, you know, as of recently, it hasn't been that way.
00:31:20
So I'm hoping that's who is the one that turned him around.
00:31:22
Men, there's gotta be a joke here.
00:31:26
This has to be a joke.
00:31:27
Hold on.
00:31:28
Why? What do you saying? What are you seeing? What are you seeing? Alright, I'm sorry.
00:31:34
So, Art Rooney, uh, said that obviously after the season, we're going to re evaluate Ben Roethlisberger's contract situation along with other contract decisions we have to make.
00:31:45
But if Ben feels like playing longer and it looks like he's capable will be in a great scenario, we're excited to see what we see from been.
00:31:56
We have been excited at what we've seen from them so far. This camp.
00:32:02
Ben Roethlisberger could get extended.
00:32:04
Really? Yanks.
00:32:05
Oh, Amen up.
00:32:08
I'm loving it.
00:32:09
You know, I'm loving every second of it.
00:32:12
What if Well, okay, I will say this the surgery that Ben Roethlisberger had a lot of quarterbacks and a lot of pictures in the major league baseball love having this surgery because they end up coming back and that part of their shoulder is even stronger than what it was before hand.
00:32:33
He so Ah, Tommy John.
00:32:36
Surgery, I believe, is what it's called, right? Yeah.
00:32:38
So I think he actually had his elbow.
00:32:41
Yeah, but it's the same type, OK, it's the same type you know, is generally a lot, a lot on the shoulder or the elbow.
00:32:49
And it's a Tommy John surgery.
00:32:51
And they say that it actually strengthens that part of your body more so than before what happened with the injury.
00:32:59
So what if what if that happened with Ben Roethlisberger? You're gonna be upset again.
00:33:07
I just don't see it happening.
00:33:09
Man.
00:33:10
I'm sorry.
00:33:11
I think that Ben his way past his do.
00:33:13
It's about time for him to retire.
00:33:14
But you know, if the Steelers want to continue and just believe in Ben Roethlisberger, for whatever reason, I'm totally fine with it because, you know, the Steelers could just continue not making the playoffs as they haven't for the past couple of years.
00:33:27
And, ah, you know, I'll be happy to see them at six.
00:33:30
Intend this season with with an old injured Ben Roethlisberger.
00:33:34
Well, I will say one thing.
00:33:36
Uh, Pittsburgh Steelers.
00:33:37
Darn near made the playoffs last year off literally, their defense, right? I mean, their offense was awful last year and their defense almost got him into the playoffs so they could get any kind.
00:33:52
Uh, you just decent quarterback.
00:33:55
It only have to be great, like five years ago.
00:33:58
Ben Roethlisberger.
00:33:59
Just decent quarterback.
00:34:01
Play that and be able to have some sort of semblance of an offense.
00:34:06
They be it.
00:34:07
They could be a very good team, um, and really fight with the Ravens.
00:34:11
But they need that quarterback spot.
00:34:13
Yeah, I just don't know, man.
00:34:16
I and I get it like, you know, the whole argument that they had terrible quarterback play.
00:34:21
I totally understand it, and they still went, ate and ate with that defense.
00:34:25
I get it, I got it, but I just don't see it.
00:34:28
Maybe it's because I'm a Ravens fan, and I just, you know, as the Steelers, I don't want to see them succeed, obviously.
00:34:35
But I don't know, man, I just don't have any faith in Ben, and I think that Steelers fans are blinding themselves and just saying, Oh, yeah, Ben is gonna be totally fine.
00:34:44
He's gonna be better than when he was, uh I just don't see it happening.
00:34:49
I'm sorry.
00:34:50
I just really don't.
00:34:51
I think that the offense might be as bad as it was last year.
00:34:53
To be honest with you and, ah, with a tougher schedule, I just don't know if that's the recipe for success, To be honest with you.
00:35:01
Wow, that's That's so justus bad as last year with with Ben Roethlisberger, the quarterback, that That's a big statement.
00:35:08
I'm telling you, man, I have no faith, no faith in Bent at all.
00:35:12
I think that it's gonna be like the Eli Manning situation that Steelers fans like.
00:35:17
No, like he's still fine.
00:35:19
He can still play the position just fine.
00:35:21
They're gonna continue blinding themselves because he won two Super Bowls for them and it z Eli Manning situation all over again.
00:35:28
In my opinion, that's how I see now.
00:35:30
To be fair, is there another team in your division that, you know, you look at and go? They could be good or you just kind of blinded.
00:35:41
As you know, as a Ravens fan, they all suck I mean, like we talked about.
00:35:47
The Browns have everything they need.
00:35:49
The Browns have everything they need, right? But the problem is, they're the Browns, right? We have to see if they can actually do it because they had everything they needed last year to.
00:35:58
In my opinion, it's just that, you know, Freddie Kitchens was the coach, and Baker decided to suck because he spent all off season shooting commercials.
00:36:07
So yeah, no, I I definitely think that I'm not.
00:36:11
I'm not saying that I don't fear any of the teams in the division, because I I would be a fool to say so.
00:36:17
I do think I mean, the Steelers Air still going to give us tough games.
00:36:20
That's just how it is.
00:36:21
Ravens and Steelers is always a tough matchup.
00:36:23
It always is no matter what, no matter who is that quarterback.
00:36:27
But I'm more afraid of the Browns.
00:36:30
I'll tell you that.
00:36:31
Then the Steelers, for sure, definitely, I am.
00:36:33
I'm more worried about facing the Browns than I would have to go against the Steelers.
00:36:38
I'll just say that right now.
00:36:40
Do you think maker Mayfield's overrated? Or do you think his, uh, his focus just wasn't there and that he can play really, really good.
00:36:47
I think it was a multitude of things, man.
00:36:51
Last year that happened because I think he himself fed into the idea that Oh my God, I don't have to really work hard In the off season I was the rookie.
00:37:01
What? He wasn't rookie of the year, but he he broke the rookie passing touchdown record.
00:37:06
Um, you know, Oh, I they just added Odell Beckham Jr to the squad.
00:37:12
You know Kareem Hunt.
00:37:13
I don't have to work this off season.
00:37:15
I don't have to get better.
00:37:17
I could just walk in and win games.
00:37:19
And I think that that mindset plus you having Freddie Kitchens as your head coach who, as we know, was pretty bad, Terrible.
00:37:27
Not as bad as Hugh Jackson, obviously.
00:37:29
But you know, pretty up there.
00:37:31
Um, so all those factors, I think, is what got it.
00:37:34
I don't think Baker is overrated, per se.
00:37:37
I do think he hasn't necessarily lived up to the number one overall pick just yet, but I'm also a big believer in giving these young quarterback some time to develop.
00:37:46
Give him at least 34 years so we can really see what we got out of these guys.
00:37:51
So that's that's how I feel about Baker.
00:37:53
And Ah, so we'll see.
00:37:55
We'll see if, But I do believe if he just does not get it done this year, if he comes out and starts throwing four picks a game, five picks a game.
00:38:03
Oh, yeah, you got to get case Keenum in there.
00:38:06
Well, I mean it.
00:38:07
They're throwing for I don't care who's at quarterback and you throwing more five picks a game.
00:38:12
You're done.
00:38:14
If you go.
00:38:15
If you go three games averaging four interceptions a game, you probably never play another snap in the NFL.
00:38:21
Uh, and Peyton Manning did that.
00:38:24
He may not be blooding anymore, you know.
00:38:28
They gave him a chance after it's Ricky season, right? Yeah.
00:38:30
All right.
00:38:31
We got he broke out, rabbit.
00:38:32
There was games where he would throw 34 interceptions in the game.
00:38:36
And I'm not talking about rookie.
00:38:37
You're talking about this prime just against the Patriots or or the Ravens.
00:38:42
You know, the Ravens that gave him that that problem to address the Chargers did it to him.
00:38:48
Uh, this certain defense is in the NFL.
00:38:51
Have certain quarterbacks numbers? Yeah, that's just how it is.
00:38:54
Yeah, but again, I think Baker.
00:38:58
I'm hoping because from what I've seen, he does have the right mindset.
00:39:01
I really liked what he said at the end of last season, which was, You know what? I admit to it.
00:39:07
I kind of fed into my own BS.
00:39:09
I allowed myself to just take it easy and not really work hard.
00:39:13
So I'm hoping that this offseason, just because the Browns man like Dave, how many times a rare gonna reset a quarterback? How many times are they going to reset a coach? A GM like you? Just just for the sake of for some competition in the division? Man, come on, figure it out. Brown's.
00:39:31
This has to be the This has to be the year.
00:39:33
Oh, yeah, there's there's three things.
00:39:35
You cannot have a revolving door, and that's GM coach and quarterback like that, which is exactly what the Browns have had over the past 20 years.
00:39:43
That's it's just the truth of the matter, right? I mean, you cannot have you even if it's bad.
00:39:50
Like the Jaguars, they had Blaine Gabbert for a wild and then the next guy, but least they held him for a while, you know, just to be like, Is he good enough? You know? So, yeah, let me ask you something about the Jags.
00:40:06
Do you think they made a mistake by getting rid of Blake Bortles? And I know Blake Bortles wasn't an amazing quarterback, but after that, a f c championship year.
00:40:17
Do you think they made a mistake? Because I think that not that he was a good quarterback, but something about it.
00:40:22
He just had the chemistry with the team and it all worked.
00:40:25
You know, they all they all got to the A F C championship game.
00:40:27
And who's to say they couldn't have repeated it if they still had if they still had Blake Bortles? That's a tough decision.
00:40:34
Um, I liked Billy's.
00:40:39
He was a game manager, but he you know, he could take chances as well.
00:40:44
A lot of times, his chances didn't succeed.
00:40:46
I don't think he had the, uh, the weapons wide receiver wise outside.
00:40:54
I think duty, you know, for him toe to take the chances that he had to take on certain games I actually liked Bortles, Um, at that point, and I thought the Jaguar should not have moved on from him.
00:41:09
But Jaguars fans have had enough.
00:41:11
You know, they had to have a fall guy and they were manic full.
00:41:18
Yeah, I decided we'll go with Nick Fools rather than Blake Bortles.
00:41:21
And, you know, they have a fall guy and they blame, uh, Bortles on it.
00:41:28
I just I think it's just the offense.
00:41:30
He didn't have the right offense form, and it reminded me of the Ravens because I think Ray Lewis ended up coming out and saying that he didn't agree with the team getting rid of Trent Dilfer.
00:41:41
As bad as Trent Dilfer was.
00:41:43
But it was something about the team chemistry men, you know that it was work.
00:41:47
That's why we won the Super Bowl.
00:41:49
And we ended up getting rid of Trent Dilfer the very next season.
00:41:52
And then it took another 12 years for us to get back in the Super Bowl.
00:41:55
So I think maybe that's what happened with the Jags man, as you know, even though Bortles was an amazing but it's all about the locker room and the team chemistry If it's working, why are you gonna ruin it? You know? Well, that's true.
00:42:08
I mean, something snapped in that locker room.
00:42:10
It's pretty obvious.
00:42:12
I mean, obviously after the 2017 season, you had the entire rock locker room going.
00:42:18
Saxon, Bill Saxon, Jill.
00:42:20
You know, we're the best defense in the NFL.
00:42:23
And then they might have bought, you know, drink a little too much of their own Kool Aid, right and decided you.
00:42:30
We don't really have to work well with each other in order to Teoh perform the way we were or something.
00:42:35
I don't know exactly.
00:42:37
But I mean, there's only one guy left on that defense.
00:42:44
And that's Myles Jackman.
00:42:46
That's it.
00:42:47
That's that's raising bad.
00:42:48
That's easy.
00:42:49
Nothing, IHS, see the Jags, man, I'm telling you, it just such a bad organization, man.
00:42:57
It's such a bad organization.
00:42:59
I just how many times I've said it before? How many times have we seen them in the top five picking? And now they're resetting again because it does.
00:43:09
I got to say I don't believe in tanking all the time, but it does definitely look to me like the Jags are on the tank man.
00:43:16
They are fully on board the tank.
00:43:18
And it's like, What's the point? Yeah, take for 10 years.
00:43:22
Why do you continue to get tank? This is definitely a what I call a front office tank very similar to what Miami did last year. Right? Right.
00:43:31
Get rid of all the players that you think are overpaid or could be a bad locker room.
00:43:37
You know, situation, uh, keep the young guys that you believe can help you.
00:43:42
Ah, long term.
00:43:44
And just take the l for this year.
00:43:48
Obviously, your head coach, your players, they're gonna bust their butts and win because they're not just playing for their contracts on their team.
00:43:56
They're playing for contracts.
00:43:58
If they don't make the team, you.
00:44:00
The film they put out there is what you know other teams would be looking at to hire them for so they can't just go out and play that.
00:44:10
So they're out there playing for their lively hoods, coaches and end players.
00:44:15
So the only real way of tanking is that front office tank of getting, you know, doing what Jacksonville in Miami has been doing.
00:44:22
Yeah, it definitely looks like that's what's going on there Definitely on.
00:44:27
And I like the Miami comparison because I think that what the Jags might do this season I've been saying it is that I think that the front office is totally taking. Absolutely.
00:44:38
They're intending to tank for Trevor.
00:44:40
Lords, I think, is their their thought process.
00:44:43
But the team, like you, said, they're not just gonna lay down and lose games some purpose.
00:44:47
You don't want to put out bad tape, right? Um so I think the Jags themselves are gonna end up winning a few more games than the front office might want him to.
00:44:56
And because of Gardner Minshew, I think Gardner Minshew is gonna be, like a kind of fits magic type.
00:45:01
That's how I see Gardner, Minshew, Essman.
00:45:03
I feel like he has that little bit of just Oh, I'm gonna win this game because screw you.
00:45:08
You know, even though nobody's picking the Jacks to win, I don't care.
00:45:12
I'm gonna go out and win this game, and he does.
00:45:14
You know, that's what I see in Gardner Minshew.
00:45:16
So I don't know if they're gonna be the number one overall pick, so this might end up screwing them in the long run because what if the Jags end up being like the fifth pick or something like the Dolphins were this year? You know, well, I mean, there's there's, like, two quarterbacks that are there guaranteed on top, just like you know, there was well, not last year.
00:45:36
Beginning of the year last year, beginning of the year, $1 to, uh, yep, just to you.
00:45:40
But this year, you got two guys.
00:45:42
Obviously, Trevor having that that top spot.
00:45:45
But I want I want to mention something.
00:45:47
Earlier last week, we had a stream.
00:45:50
Where you we always talking about how the New Orleans Saints has Alvin Kamara for trade, right? Just kind of dropped them on the block.
00:45:59
They still want to re sign him.
00:46:01
But if they don't work out, then they'll they'll take options out there.
00:46:04
And I was like, Well, what if the Jags You know, what if what if the Jags offered because, well, scary was at the thought at the time.
00:46:14
I was like what? The Jags went and got him because they don't have four net no more and they got Camara and then the Jags end up having the worst record in the NFL.
00:46:25
And then the Saints have the first pick.
00:46:26
It able to pick trouble Lords be messed up. Yeah.
00:46:30
Then I had a jag.
00:46:31
Stan, you come up to me and DME and say, Hey, dude, you're forgetting something.
00:46:36
I was like, What? It was like.
00:46:37
We still have this year's Rams pick because they gave two first round picks, the 2020 and the 2021 draft it for the Rams for Jalen Ramsey So they could legitimately trade the Rand's first round pick and keep their and keep and keep that.
00:46:58
So that's a possibility.
00:47:00
And I was like, Wow, that opens things up because then you could go get Lawrence and you'd have an amazing running back that could really be a big help to a rookie quarterback.
00:47:11
Yeah, you know.
00:47:13
Yeah, see what? But at the same time, in order to do that, you can't be completely sold on the garden event.
00:47:20
You train? Yeah, exactly.
00:47:22
So that's it. That's the thing.
00:47:24
No, but I think if you're the Jags, that's not a bad move to make, because what else are you going to do? You need talent on your team, but definitely If it was me building a team, I would not make that move.
00:47:34
I would never trade a first round pick for a running back, but I think it would make kind of sense for the Jags if they were to do something like that.
00:47:42
Say they do have the first overall pick and they still have the Rams pick.
00:47:47
You know what? Well, why not? Let's get Camara, you know, But I don't know.
00:47:51
We'll have to see what happens with the Saints.
00:47:52
Last I heard, it does look like they're back on the same page, Um, that they re signed.
00:48:00
So hopefully that works out.
00:48:01
But yeah, I don't think that's a bad idea, but again, the Jags men, they're just What are they doing there? There's such a bad organization.
00:48:10
How long can there there? It's looking like the Browns, man.
00:48:15
It's list looking like like that bad of an organization right now, I just I just don't get it like I would understand if they've been, you know, in the playoffs, like continuously.
00:48:26
But they've only made it once in, like what? Like 15 20 years.
00:48:29
So I don't know, Man Joe's Drew with Brother Backer M J d.
00:48:35
Yeah, I just I just don't get it, man.
00:48:37
I I think more teams should take the approach that the Ravens did, which was in a rebuilding year.
00:48:45
We ended up going 14 and two.
00:48:47
That was supposed to be a rebuilding year.
00:48:50
And we also Yeah, because that's an option for every team.
00:48:53
Well, everything.
00:48:54
Hey, if you're rebuilding, just go for Tina to Hell.
00:48:58
I don't You destroyed a win games, but I am.
00:49:03
And I don't see why more teams don't go with that approach like rebuild while also trying to win.
00:49:09
You don't have to just suck for a whole season, you know, like at least try to win some games.
00:49:15
Try to push for the playoffs, so I just don't understand.
00:49:18
Your teams don't do that.
00:49:19
I fully agree, because with a winning mentality is harder to acquire and keep, then a losing mentality.
00:49:27
You get into this whole well, we're losing, we're losing.
00:49:30
It's hard to get out of that mentality.
00:49:32
Hard to start stringing together wins? Asked the Cleveland Browns.
00:49:36
They got that great team, but they've been sucking for so long that even with a great team around them, they can't seem to string Goodwin's together, right? Um so if you have an organization and you're fighting to win every game and you're really you know, even if it's a bad organization, you end up 79886 and 10.
00:49:57
At least you have some kind of pride.
00:49:59
They're saying, you know what? We went out there.
00:50:01
We busted our but our team is not up to par to where we want it to be.
00:50:07
And we know, Yeah, we busted our but we know what our limits are now and what we need to where we need to get better at, right? Yeah, that's the victim.
00:50:17
Because when you're doing what what Jacksonville's doing when you're doing what Miami is doing, what you're doing, what Cleveland did for so long.
00:50:24
You don't know where your weak spots You're just rolling talent in there and not really building a full team.
00:50:31
You're just saying, you know, we're gonna throw all these first for early round picks and and stuff like that and hope that it meshes, but you need to actually have a team built.
00:50:43
Figure out where your strengths and weaknesses are and build off of that and in order, the only way to do that.
00:50:50
It's for your team to be out there and busting their butts and winning, you know, even even on even when you're a bad team.
00:50:57
Yeah, I wonder, when was the last time that tanking has worked out for a team? That's something that I definitely want to think of.
00:51:06
The first night came 99.
00:51:09
Was that the Colts the year that they drafted Peyton Manning? What are you going to stay? That's thing.
00:51:17
That less team.
00:51:18
I couldn't remember that it actually worked out for twice was the Colts is they got Peyton Manning and then they ended up getting Andrew luck.
00:51:24
I don't know if they actually honestly tank for Peyton.
00:51:27
Many.
00:51:28
I think that team was just bad right now.
00:51:30
Andrew Luck.
00:51:32
That was a situation where Peyton Manning was traded.
00:51:38
Peyton Manning got hurt and everybody in the organization knew that.
00:51:43
You know, the change of you know, everything was changing.
00:51:46
The coaches were going to be let go.
00:51:48
Ah, lot of players were gonna leave.
00:51:50
Peyton wasn't there, you know? I mean, you lost so much.
00:51:54
So that was basically Well, we're not going to do very well this year.
00:52:01
Because if that happens, sometimes but they but the colts know that they're gonna be right back in the mix of things because they're gonna continue to build up their team.
00:52:13
But I just don't see like I don't I can't think of the last time that you hear.
00:52:18
Oh, they're tanking, and then it ends up working out.
00:52:20
You just never you never see it happen.
00:52:22
I've never I don't remember.
00:52:24
I don't remember it.
00:52:25
We'll see.
00:52:26
What? Miami? Because I actually like what they acquired with Miami.
00:52:29
Yeah, they do a good They fought at the end of the last year and won re other last war.
00:52:35
I think, you know.
00:52:37
I mean, my goodness.
00:52:38
Ah, or three hours.
00:52:39
Last five. Maybe.
00:52:41
But either way, they fought their butts off.
00:52:44
They got a lot of good off season picks.
00:52:46
They got They got a lot of good draft picks.
00:52:48
So we'll see.
00:52:49
We'll see what happens with him.
00:52:51
Yep. Yep.
00:52:52
Um, speaking of bad organizations, I don't know if you talked about this year, but my guy Dwayne Haskins is officially the starting Q B for the Washington football team.
00:53:03
How do you feel about that man? Not a big Dwayne Haskins friend.
00:53:09
I'm not.
00:53:10
I'm not.
00:53:11
I'm not a going Haskins fan.
00:53:12
Sorry, All you Washington football team fans.
00:53:15
I'm not. I'm not a fan of Dwayne Haskins.
00:53:17
Do I think that he can get better over time? Yes, I don't think he's the type of quarterback that can.
00:53:24
You could throw into the flash fire and for him to get better that way.
00:53:28
I think he's one of those guys you know where.
00:53:31
I don't think he's that sinker swim quarterback.
00:53:33
I think it's more of the quarterback where you need to let sit back and learn from someone.
00:53:38
But I get not wanting to put Alex Smith in.
00:53:41
I fully get that because I mean, the dude almost died.
00:53:45
He's lucky to be walking and you know, So I understand that and I understand that Duane asking is probably your best bat out all the other guys out there.
00:53:56
So you're you're giving your team the best chance to win without, you know, endangering the life of ah, veteran quarterback who definitely would give you the best chance to win.
00:54:06
I mean, let's face it, guys.
00:54:08
Alex Smith.
00:54:09
If his leg is healthy gives you a much better chance to win than Dwayne Haskins.
00:54:14
Freddie is just he would, he would.
00:54:18
But I got completely understand, not wanting to put him out there now if they start sucking and a few weeks go by, which I truly think that Washington is going to suck early on and in the middle and in the end.
00:54:33
But, um, let's say they go three or four weeks and don't can't get a win, right? Just bad.
00:54:41
That offense, Um, and Alex Smith still, you know, out there doing well in practices.
00:54:47
Maybe you throw him in for, you know, a few plays and let him play and see how he how he's going.
00:54:53
And if he can.
00:54:55
Then maybe that then maybe you could flip it over, get out, get get Dwayne off the field and let him learn behind somebody.
00:55:04
You know, that's I think Dwayne would be much better learning behind a good veteran quarterback than thrown thrown into the fire.
00:55:12
I just I don't know, man.
00:55:14
I feel like if Haskins is, like a bad, like, just horrible, like Peterman, levels of bad.
00:55:21
Yeah, I mean, it's probably a good idea to do things, but But I feel like it would demoralize Dwayne.
00:55:27
You know, if you just kind of bench him because he's thrown two picks in this game but say, you know, maybe he's won a game or two.
00:55:34
Um, it would be a little demoralizing, but yeah, I think if he's just terrible, like, just not showing any signs of development, like not showing any signs of life.
00:55:45
But even then men, I would I don't know.
00:55:47
As a coach, I would be pretty scared to put Alex Smith out there, man, because it would feel like his blood would be on your hands, right? Yeah, right.
00:55:55
Feel so? I don't know, man.
00:55:58
Washington isn't an interesting situation.
00:56:00
What if Dwayne gets hurt? Do you put Alex in? I mean, yeah.
00:56:05
I mean, you see how Dwayne plays.
00:56:07
He could legitimately get hurt, you know, rather quickly, especially with that offensive line.
00:56:16
Uh, you got You got old man Alex Smith.
00:56:20
That's got a leg that is biotic.
00:56:26
Um and then? And then you got the second.
00:56:29
What? The second oldest running back in the NFL running behind you.
00:56:33
We're kind of odd because the two oldest running backs in the NFL are still going strong, Which is okay, sure.
00:56:40
Going hard, going strong.
00:56:42
My goodness, They are beasts.
00:56:44
All right, Where We've been running an hour for just the two of us, Which I am incredibly impressed.
00:56:50
We went over the sco much news over the past 24 hours.
00:56:54
We was talking before the stream started.
00:56:56
We were like, Man, what are we gonna cover? There's no really big news like, No, but there is a whole bunch of little bitty things that we could cover, and we did it.
00:57:05
And I want to thank everybody that joined us here on SportsCastr Messy.
00:57:08
Best Jesse can fly.
00:57:10
Thanks for the follow Jessica Bad Ball Over and Dream Walker Dream Walker.
00:57:17
Hey, guy. Welcome.
00:57:19
Saw you earlier as well on our stream earlier with the follow followed me.
00:57:24
Actually, I think on Twitter as well.
00:57:27
Um, So we have four people and 64 people watching live.
00:57:36
There was up to 74 people that I noticed watching live Joke What? What? What does that say? If I could only see four people in the live chat, their names, but their 70 some people actually on the live the life button on the little person of her.
00:57:53
It sounds to me like there's a bunch of freeloaders in the chat.
00:57:57
There's a bunch of loafers.
00:57:58
There's guys, these.
00:58:00
These are the guys that go to Costco to not buy anything and just eat the free samples.
00:58:05
That's what it seems.
00:58:06
That's what these guys are.
00:58:07
Man created.
00:58:09
**** profile on SportsCastr.
00:58:11
It's easy. It's 123 ABC.
00:58:13
You literally is just like walking into Costco.
00:58:16
You can do it as long as you have a membership.
00:58:18
You can leave a chat down below.
00:58:19
You can like the video.
00:58:21
You can.
00:58:22
You know, you can do so many things, man.
00:58:23
I just don't see what the point is of coming into a stream to not have an account.
00:58:30
It just doesn't make any sense.
00:58:32
SportsCastr account up there in the top.
00:58:35
Right corner, I believe. I don't know.
00:58:37
Yeah, you had it right? Okay.
00:58:39
Super easy.
00:58:40
You can link it to your twitter, your Facebook, your email.
00:58:44
YouTube, I think I don't know.
00:58:45
There's other options there.
00:58:46
There's so many options, man.
00:58:47
It's super easy.
00:58:48
I just is super simple.
00:58:50
I don't know how many times We have to tell you this.
00:58:52
So many six live people now.
00:58:55
Yeah.
00:58:56
So just make an account, man, and then you can actually join the chat.
00:58:59
And you could argue with us because Absolutely.
00:59:01
Yeah.
00:59:02
So yeah.
00:59:03
I mean, I've been checking the chat the whole time.
00:59:05
If anyone would have said something, we would have jumped on it.
00:59:09
I don't care.
00:59:10
You could have said just about anything.
00:59:12
I mean, obviously, if you're certain political things, if you just want told and obviously I'm not gonna give you any mind.
00:59:19
But if you were going to give some actual NFL content out here and get comment on what we're saying absolutely, uh, jump on that man.
00:59:29
Uh, it's getting to the point now, personally, Joe, where I'm about done doing this at the end of the stream.
00:59:36
I think I want to start doing this in the 1st 15 minutes of the streams because I'm tired of seeing all these people jumping on here.
00:59:45
You did.
00:59:46
You guys know? I mean, it don't take much to make that account right? Love is because if you have an account, then that's showing us respect.
00:59:56
Sure.
00:59:57
It's not showing us respect by saying this. We are here.
01:00:00
We are watching you.
01:00:01
I appreciate everyone that does that.
01:00:04
And thank you so much. Yep.
01:00:06
Thank you, guys.
01:00:07
And hopefully we'll see you next time yet We'll see you tomorrow.
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And I'm Lord.
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So on, Joe. New Beau.
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Have a good one later.

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