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Um, so a couple of updates in sports world.
So for starters, this stuff when I spent a lot of time when Alan Camaros up for trade, I guess that news came out today.
Ah, I mean, I don't really have much to say on that brand.
If you have anything about means.
No, I think it just one of those things.
I think it's a contract dispute or something like that.
Then that's opening the door for it.
But that's, you know, that just happened, what two hours ago? So exactly fresh.
He, um, was in contract disputes, trying get a deal done and update 10.
If he said that they would be willing to trade him.
I don't know if that means he's on the trading block, but yeah, that's pretty much others to say about that.
One other thing in the f l ah Aaron Rodgers.
They came out that just thinking about the top 100 or whatever, and there's a lot of hullabaloo about Air Rodgers being so low, especially being lower than Dak Prescott.
Um, I mean, I wouldn't put him lower the Dak Prescott.
I do think he's being a little bit disrespected.
He's got He's really had nothing but people just kind of count him out the last few years.
But I mean again, all those top 100 lists are all kind of Ah, crappy.
You know, to be nice about it.
So again, Brandon, anything on Air? Rogers on top of hundreds.
I I haven't even seen the list.
But you tell me that debt Prescott is over, and Rogers is kind of ah, snow for sure.
Where Aaron Rodgers would show up on that list.
Definitely not even.
Maybe he's definitely dumped on.
Let me not disrespect the goat like that, but, um, definitely.
I think he thes thes way better than that Prescott at this present moment.
So So you just said, Hold on now.
You just said that Aaron Rodgers.
You just called him the goat.
You've heard their rivals as a goat.
Well, let me clarify better than that.
I know a lot of people consider him the goat.
So for that, it was being his name from other people.
He should deserve better from their list.
It's a clarification.
Just checking, because, I mean, it seems to be that the wide range of people feel that Tom Brady is the goat.
What would say Peyton Manning s? So when you said goat, you know, I just had to make sure, you know, clarified.
So that's pretty much all the NFL we're gonna talk about for you guys, uh, we're gonna go pretty much strictly basketball at this point because the n b a bubble is bumping, and it is, you know, it's kind of wild, and I'm enjoying it.
I'm so glad we got sports back because while yes, as you all know, I have been Well, those who follow the podcast know that I've been kind of against them playing, um, those of you watching the live stream to the first time? We do not know the podcast.
Now, I was kind of against them plan in the midst of Kobe.
But I am happy, You know, I'm gonna reap these benefits and be excited.
So we're gonna talk a lot of NBA today.
Break down some teams and some players.
But before we do that, we need to go ahead and make sure that we address some of the sadness that we've experienced in the last few weeks.
Are the last week, actually, uh, with the deaths of Cliff Robinson, the deaths off John Thompson and the death of Chadwick Boseman, three prominent black figures in culture further for each of them for their own reasons.
Um, you know, Cliff Robinson being a long time and be a player, you know, you can go on and on, and I'm brand.
I'll kind of give you the floor, let you talk about each one of these guys.
You know, Shadow Bosman.
Great actor, you know, rating in the community.
You know, these people legacies come from more than just you know how good they are at their craft.
Your legacy is built in the other stuff.
You know how you inspire others and things like that.
So just why obviously Kobe had a huge legacy.
So, Brandon, I'm elderly.
I'll let you just kind of you could have a floor going.
Just you have Adamant? Yeah, Man.
Found when I found out about the news of Chadwick Boseman, which really kind of started off this kind of downward spiral for the weekend of it.
Really, it really resonated me with me.
Um, the fact that he died of cooling answer assed people found out, but no one had an idea.
No word and no, no knowledge about that, and probably rightfully so that he was able to keep that under wraps.
But that just tells you the strength of who he was as a person and even his best character, which, if you were to ask me, I think Black Panther he is the Black Panther.
Um And so for a lot of kids right now, they're hurting.
I know you're hurt.
Turning to the holding, I think, Or for sure, I'd miss perfect.
Um e he displayed incredible amount of strength to be able to pump out.
I believe it was 10 movies over the last four years.
You know, you might have to check that up on me, but I believe it was 10 movies he did like Jackie Robinson, which the prominent black film or and I am just buy from by prominent, uh, probably film that displayed somebody we all need to make you recognize.
He played that part very well going into James Brown.
He did that movie and there was one other five the Bloods or something like that That's on Netflix right now.
I haven't seen it yet, but I heard very, very good reviews about it.
So I mean, he his legacy will forever be in our hearts in our minds and everything like that.
So RP chat with Bozeman.
Um, we'll miss you.
You know John Thompson.
I woke up early in the morning.
Ah, believe will Sunday morning.
And I saw the news of John Thompson pass away.
And it really struck me really, really quickly because John Thompson I mean, a lot of people talked about big in that or talked about the fact that they thought Georgetown was HBCU.
And that's pretty big because George Georgetown is Ah, a prominent university.
Right now, you know, without John Thompson, you might not hear that name O r.
Georgetown much, you know, without knowing that John Thompson was there, but his legacy there unbelievable.
1984 national champs.
Ah, whole list of guys that went through that university and many, many, many guys say that he pretty much saved their lives excluding the Allen Iverson.
He made sure he shouted amount on his Hall of Fame speech a couple years ago.
And so, um, G's I mean, a pioneer in it.
Um, he said the Sneed was one of the ones that set the standard for black coaches everywhere.
And he will continue said in his stamp on a lot of guys today that are coaching still, and he will truly be missed.
You know, Uh, just what? What a wonderful coach, Wonderful man.
And he will be missed on Cliff Robinson just to, you know, kind of close out.
You know how we used to watch him while he was Trailblazers when I was a young kid and his ferocity destination is tenaciousness on the boards and everything like that playing his role man, he was able to do it for about 18 years.
That's a long time to be playing a role.
And so he did, to the best of his ability, man and and every night on the floor he gave it is all man is all.
I recognize that even in my own basketball career, I took little pieces from little players that here and there, and Cliff Robertson was one of those.
And so he will be missed to all of them gone way to soon.
So that's all I have for those guys.
But R p you know, prayers to their families and everybody dies was close to them.
So, yeah, that's the thing to with John Thompson.
Like people, the great coaches.
It seems like every great coach, as I just mentioned what people's legacies have an impact that goes beyond the game.
And you know, John Thompson.
When people guys like Allen Iverson say things like, you know, thank you for saving my life like it means that lit in like, the most literal sense.
And ah, it's like, you know, he used to walk upto like, you know, the drug lords of that time, you know, and say like, Hey, like, stay away from my players type deal because like, that's just who he was.
He was. He was that guy.
He was about it because he was about his players.
Also, you can't do anything but respected.
I mean, honestly, if Cliff Robinson was never somebody who really you know, um had much of an impact for me playing basketball, being a guard.
So, like he was just kind of another player.
But even still, like seeing people, you know, pass away is always a something you don't see, So I mean, you know, so autopsies rest in peace.
And, of course, as far as Chadwick man, like, I'm a huge marble guy.
And, um, it wasn't until uh, like 42 which is the Jackie Robinson of you're referring to is called 42 When I first saw him kind of on the screen.
And then I saw him two Black Panther and I was like, Wait a minute, and all of a sudden you go look back into the play.
He, you know, like he has all these kind of movies under his belt.
And when you go to think about the the fact that you know he's been dealing with colon cancer for 10 years, four years use me, um, in its life, just like wow, you know, uh, you never know.
You know, the fight that people are fighting, you know, behind the scenes.
So you've got to make sure, you know, it's important to treat everyone with respect.
Um and you know, courtesy, because, I mean, you just don't know.
Um and that's just a message to everyone out there as well.
You treat people with respect, treat people with common courtesy because you just don't know what people are dealing with.
Um, so I wanna I wanna just want us to take some time to, uh, get with that.
So, unlike every other guests I've had, I didn't really introduce you in Kind of like that typical way.
And this is why So for all of you who are either watching or will be listening to the podcast if you miss any of this last year in the podcast will be out tomorrow morning in which you couldn't and listen to the podcast and catch up on what you missed on.
But anyway, so this is Brandon Hooks.
Membrane and go back a very long time.
Were both 26 years old.
We have known each other since you know the ages of six or seven or whatever it is you know each other through basketball.
We got close to the basketball.
It's a passion we both shared.
His dad coached us through, you know, young leaves and stuff like that.
Um, so we kind of go way back.
We ended up playing high school ball together, and we just kind of been close.
So this is one of many will actually going a very few of my best friends eso week again.
This He is also the reason why I'm not treating him like a normal guesses because he is a part of the bottom line team.
He's one of the other guys that's been behind the scenes, and but he also has a sports mind as well.
And so you know, it's I love you.
I love to have more on, and we kind of found finally starting to figure this thing out.
So we're able to, um, I'll be able to have him on a lot more and stuff of that nature.
So that's kind of the back story behind Brandon and how why he's on the show today.
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Now that the ad is out of the way, we can get talking about, you know what you know we're really gonna talk about so the n b a bubble right now updates.
You know, since the last time I really dove into it.
You know, the pretty much every every serious in the East except one was a sweet no heats.
What? Pacers, Um, six years.
That's what bus, Celtics and Raptors swept the Nets books one in five.
Orlando, now in the West.
You had the Lakers win and five clippers win in six on and you've got the other two that are Game seven, Thunder and Rockets and then nuggets and jazz.
Now, right now, as we speak, it is 7.
27 on September 1st, 2020.
So anything we say now and you gonna happens afterwards if you watch, like, right now, we're in the midst of the Celtics and Raptors games.
All right, now we're missing that.
So if we say anything, like you're like, Oh, well, you know about just know that at the time it is right now.
So that is why, you know, we might not have should be on it with certain things that are happening right now.
Okay, um, just to reiterate that for you guys.
So anyway, so as we move forward to the first thing we're gonna talk about as far as the MBA and the bubble is, let's talk about Luca.
All right, So I said last week that, you know, well, for starters will say is the NBA's a development league And I said last week that were washing.
Luca developed right in front of our eyes, and I think people are so enamored with his greatness that they're not taking the time to appreciate how far he's growing, and I looked at two games.
I looked at the Rockets game in the bubble.
Maybe the third or fourth came in 2nd, 2nd or fourth.
I don't know what between was game of the boat and the last play of the game. They blew that lead.
Last play, the game they gave Toluca.
He didn't really know what to do.
He ended up doing some like, off 1 ft fadeaway from three, just praying and get to the rim and made possibly gets lucky and goes in.
Then you watch Game four against the Clippers.
Same exact scenario saying Inbounds play, Uh, he gets the ball with 3.
2 seconds and he catches it immediately.
Knows what to do. He knew exactly what move he was gonna make.
You know exactly where you want to get to.
He timed it perfect.
And that right there is exactly what it means to be in a developmental league.
Because Lucas group that him taking that his lumps, Ricardo could've drew up some crazy play.
But as I said after that Rockets game, Carlyle was basically saying, Look, you're gonna let you make your mistakes so that when Tom comes down the road, you're gonna be better.
And that's exactly what just happened.
So, you know, Luca dodges right now.
I mean, he is on the director to be the best player in the league in next year.
Every two years.
Um, you know what? I will ask you this.
What do you kind of most impressed or surprised with with Luca? Because, you know, obviously, yeah, we all know he's playing well.
So what do you What's the most impressive thing of everything he does for you? What's the most repressive? Well oh, promise that guy.
So, um, I usually like Teoh, kind of see where the stats are and see what? Really? You know where he puts himself on the court and everything.
So once that that kind of blows my mind a little bit.
Many people now, as far as ah, steps.
He had ah field goal percentage of 50%.
Now, I'm not sure if ah, that was for the six games before or prior to Or was it the, you know, the games that they had played in the series, but doesn't matter when you come into the bubble, which is a difficult place to play.
You are on well, first off, let's say the bubble is so weird.
You know, it's in a way of that.
You have to number one, not have fans there, you know, trying to mess with you and things like that.
Actually, Luca had interview that.
He was that he is a little different, really used to crowds being here.
So that's one thing that's that's different for him on DSO.
That's that that's gone, Um, now you have to deal with not being or a family eating the same old food, for however long they've been at the bubble, you know, just little factors that you know are different now.
This is his first playoffs.
So it being the first playoffs, him being efficient, that is very rare.
And so for me, what stands out that's with Luca doing is that he's been efficient because this is, you know, he's gotten 10 assisting every game he's played so far.
I in the bubble are get all the way up to They lost his field goal presented like I said is 50% e.
Let's make a half your shots and he's Gorn, 31 points again.
Okay, To be able to be to be able to be efficient and to make assist and then also take your time and making your shots and things like that and also making the big shots when they count.
And also all on top of that, making sure you're putting your teammates in the place you're in place.
You know, things like that is so much going on.
And so you know him.
Being efficient is the biggest thing for me now, if you want to argue with me and say that is three point percentage should be better, which is that 36%? I mean, come on, man.
There's so many other things that other factors that he's adding to the Dallas Mavericks that didn't they didn't have their minds.
We aren't player.
They used to play for them, which is Jason Kidd.
And so you know when you think about it, you know, Lucas doing some incredible stuff toe on Lee B 21 being, you know, a leader right now.
Because if you look at the Dallas Mavericks, what else do they really have? Uh, the guy Chris stops.
They have Seth Curry, who's a veteran.
But are you actually him to lead the charge? You know, there's there's so many factors they lost one of their senators, Dwight Powell, who's very athletic and you know him and Luca had a very close bond.
I see and and saw.
And when he went down, I I even said I was like, I don't know how they're going to survive because Dwight Powell was, you know, helping them out so much in in just some of the schemes that we're doing with the pick and roll action and things like that.
And so look, a loss that during the year, and so he had to adjust.
And I mean, efficiency being able to adjust.
I mean, that is incredible what we're seeing from this kid, man, seriously, and I I'm Morris excited of seeing what he can add on to what he's already doing, cause there's not a lot of players that can put these numbers up.
Um, I think the last kind of player that I could say probably was like that was has been Simmons as faras like being we'll see first year and being able to do things like this I mean, Benson, this is probably other player that I would say that was impressive like that.
The only thing is that he couldn't shoot that well.
And Luca's definitely a shooter.
Yeah, I if we go back and look at his, uh, the game where he hit the game winner and which game was that for before? So in that game one, do you understand how Christopher move? That was seriously? And so efficiency also goes with your now non wasted movement.
So he does that he knew what he was going to do, and there was nobody was gonna stop him on that.
So that is something that I think that's gonna that separates him from the rest, that he is getting it in, getting it, and every game it's like he's at a little something mawr.
So I can't wait to see another full 82 of him getting it more and more, cause that's a scary man. Scary.
You know, it's it's interesting you brought up my power because, honestly, in my opinion, Dwight Powell, uh, going down was the best thing that could have happened for Kristaps because the steps play improved tremendously.
when he was playing the five.
They were trying to play him at the four with power at the five, and he wasn't able to be as effective.
And so his play up to levels before he even got to the playoffs.
And he's averaged 30 points in the bubble like the guys for hoping, Um, so I will say that.
So now when they get the white power back, that's just when we're death nor big man death like it's good that I mean, they're good, Yeah, I think that you know his efficiency, you know, for him to be for it when you're used so much, which means you're using so much energy.
And in your second year in the league, you're being asked to do so much, takes so much in process so much, and then put output to make your teammates better.
To stay good at your new in yourself, on top of the travel on top of you know, in this year, Cove it and on top of all the stuff, then to the distractions of being an MBA, you know, star superstar, and you've pretty much got full country in your back.
It's impressive and I think that just along with the affection see efficiency that everything that comes with it, his like capacity to be able to like, not break under all this pressure is amazing.
He's been playing professional basketball since he was 13.
I understand all that.
But even still like this is the best, best best for the world of play in the NBA.
No if ands buts about it, and so even they're still the level of adjustment you have to make.
And it's amazing that it seems like his learning curve is nowhere near as, um as wide as other players.
So, yeah, let's keep it moving next.
Players I want to talk about because these guys these this floor Jamal Murray and Donald Mitchell.
Okay, so they are in their about to play a Game seven in T.
Linus an hour 53 minutes, 30 Eastern time.
We're we're gonna have to miss it because there's areas that we have to go do when we finish.
But, um, these boys are lighting it up.
This is the best Siri's like, Obviously the thunder and the rockets are also seven games.
Yes, but there have been two blowouts in that series and, yeah, OK, there were two blowouts in the Jazz series, too.
But you don't have to, guys, it's literally just these two matched up.
They're both the same position and they're just like both.
Let's go, we're going at it big shot after big shot.
I mean, when I watched Game one and I was like, All right, Jamal, cool.
You have gamed in Game two and three.
He kind of let me down right with in Game four.
Get right, gave five.
Get right, Game 6 40 loss in Game five of six.
And I'm like, man.
And the reason why I picked Denver and six in the series is because I felt that there's not enough firepower on Utah.
It's Donovan Mitchell were bussed over there, and I didn't think, and I am.
I'm gonna be really is completely wrong about this.
I didn't think Tom had it in him to go for 50 twice.
He's averaging 43 points a game and the place I didn't expect that, like, absolutely not so so in that regard, I was wrong there, and if I don't know if I would have expected that from him, Then I would have said, Okay, well, maybe Denver goes ****her.
I thought there was.
I still think they're a better team, But I mean, if they can't stop, Mr Someone's gonna have to adjust it.
Stop somebody, you know, if I'm going to Game seven.
Donovan Mitchell's not beat me or Jamal Murray is not beat me.
But either way, I'm very impressed because these boys like, you know, they're stepping up to the challenge and in there, and they're having a ton of fun as an athlete, as a basketball player, man, the most fun games are the ones that were close where you know you got your hand.
You got your staple in the game like I don't like blowing teams out.
I don't like being up by 20 and third quarter like that's not fun.
You know you can mess around and shoot more threes, but it's fun working Peten.
You're trying to stop me because you know you have to and I'm trying to score because I know I have to like that's That's the true competitiveness and there, and there's a level of like you play and then you know, the stars up their game to a level or two levels when you go to the playoffs and both of them are doing that.
And so I mean, the league is I've heard plenty ****ysts say it and I 100 C.
The league is in great hands, like when the LeBron's and the mellows and Chris Paul's like when they retire and the league will be just fine.
Oh, yeah, Oh, yeah, I agree with that.
I think what we're witnessing right now.
First off, they are combined, having 267 points right now of opponents against each other.
That has a lot of points.
If you ask me and 78 s 06 games, you're scoring that much between the two of you.
Now I won't sit here say that there's not good defense because, honestly, these air two of the better your tough shots, step, step backs and I mean, I even just step back.
You're trying t.
It's just strike separation now, having going through a lot of separation and I me stop and go stop and go best.
The best players are able to stop themselves or be able to change speeds.
My Dad told me that long time ago, and that's the truth.
You know who some of the best players in the world are the best at being able to change speeds, change directions, things like that and all your scenes Jamal Murray doing that? Donovan Mitchell being able todo stop on the dime and his shot.
So that is incredible. Focus.
These two guys, you're watching them, really do these MBA professionals, they rarely make mistakes.
Let's understand that I've played a bunch of NBA players.
What the number one thing I know is they have size and they don't make mistakes.
The crucial mistakes that you can you can easily make, like they you know, it is countless times that there is repetition, repetition, repetition.
So these this is not new to these guys, literally.
I mean, I watched Jamal Murray.
I really I really like Denver.
Um, I like joking, so that's probably my favorite player on that team.
I love his vision and things like that, but you have to you have to put Jamal Murray as being probably D captain on that team.
I know Paul Millsap is there, and that's a great better in the happened.
Jamal Murray is literally leading this charge.
And, you know, I can only imagine that tonight he's going to do it again.
Um, you know, he's got I mean, he has to keep playing this level.
Um, uh, you know, I was just looking at the stats right now, and he's playing 37 minutes a game.
At least this is this is probably in the six games they played, um, what is showing me? He had 37 minutes a game.
He's averaging 34.
Um, he's He's also shooting a really good percentage for three.
I mean, he's shooting just 57% from the three.
That's incredible, man.
He's taken a lot of threes.
I mean, ah, lot of his shots are threes, but he's also getting to the bucket, and that's hard and hit the mentoring shot.
I mean, these you're seeing a full display off this skill set that he has and the fact that there's not the there's really not a ceiling to it, right? The second I think he could do more.
Um and so I'm really impressed with your ball, man.
You know, to be able to do that now.
You could already be all he needs to have more.
Well, he's averaging about seven assists a game, you know.
He should rebound more.
Well, he's averaging six rebounds a game.
You guys me blocked eso.
You want to argue that he needs to do more? Well, hey, maybe you could you say that he needs to have more steals, you know, or whatever.
But you know the number.
One thing I noticed there was three games where? I guess you know how many scored.
What was the other one? Um, figure fading 40 and right that he's going 50 in those games here. Zero turnovers.
Now that's a stat that you don't ever hear.
I mean, and this is where I was talking about being mistake free.
He literally is being mistake for, you know, like he's he's having to play so many minutes.
And so in 37 minutes, I could tell you I'd have at least 2345 maybe turnovers, just off of just, you know, whether a ball hits your and just regular basketball stuff.
But this guy is literally playing those minutes and not making a mistake.
And that's incredible, man.
Um, I can't say the same for Donovan.
I have seen him.
Do you know what I mean? But, you know, if you're really looking at it, he's being efficient.
And I just said that about Luca.
But, you know, we could say Jamal Murray's over there doing the exact same thing in some realm.
Um, it's, you know, I think the movie is what gives me too, is that is the stopping goes.
I mean, are not even just tap with stature backs, you know, going between the legs and really setting that person up because you don't want to get to the bucket.
He's a great finisher.
I saw the during the regular season.
He really has a nice job package, if you will.
And so with that, you got to stop him from getting to the buck because he can't get the bucket at will.
Um, so if you're stopping that now, he's also added the middle aged game or not.
Just added, he's had He has one, you know.
And so he's he's picking people apart with doing that.
And so he's picking people park and also not turning the ball over, man.
Come on. Come on.
I want to ask you because you said something you say.
You know, your mom worries leading this charge.
He's the captain.
Um, would you say and there's really once you answer this, I'll explain kind of where I'm coming from.
Would you say that's from all Murray? That that the Nuggets aren't Jamal Murray's team now? Yeah.
Yeah, well, right now, at this present moment that we're talking right now, Yes.
You know, I thought before it was like, e, I think that was a bunch of guys that were really able to play well, cause as a team, Denver's really good.
Then show they show a year in and year out.
Once gotten joke.
It's since they got Millsap.
Since they gotten, um, you know, uh oh, my gosh, Will Barton, Since they've gotten, you know, some of these guys, they all are playing the role man.
All of them, You know, Paul Millsap.
I always liked his game, but it's never flashes.
Never nothing that death.
But he gets the job done right? Joke.
It's nuff said, uh, you know And you the list goes on More and more guys.
Jerry and Grant.
What a great addition.
He's expanding his game.
You know it started Mason Plumlee.
You know things of that sort, but they never really had any by the established captain, Will, you know, are you couldn't tell me it was a joke.
It's just Steve.
I probably you know, he's a quiet giant, if you ask me.
So I can't say that it was his team, even though he is, Ah, big vital part to it.
I cannot say that was the steep.
Couldn't say that Paul Millsap.
It was his teeth.
I could say that.
They probably doesn't know him as captain.
That's him being a veteran and seeing you know what he went through over in Atlanta and Utah and things like that.
He's been around for a long time, so yeah, you would probably go ahead and destiny. Adams captain.
But Jamal, man, I mean, he's leading a pack, and I even just mention that he's also speaking out on just the what? Everything with everything that's going on the world, he's also speaking up about it.
It is very emotionally tied to it.
And so, as a leader you're in, you have to do things like that.
And so Jamal Murray is stepping in that role, so Yeah, Jamal, this is Jamal Murray's T.
I will say that right now.
All right, so here's why I asked that.
Okay, so I was listening to the radio just this morning and Ah, New Shojaei, Keyshawn J.
And Zubin on ESPN radio on Wednesday.
They came up with a better name.
We'll call it K Jay Z Short.
You know, start Dugard came out said that it's no longer your coach. His team.
It's drama race team.
He's the superstar that they're going to go with moving forward.
Obviously, they can keep both, but he's saying like he's gonna be the guy.
Keyshawn Johnson kind of agreed and was like, you know, like it's easier to build around a garden.
A big I mean, you know that point.
You can argue the way.
I don't really care of that point.
Now, here's the thing.
I don't know if im ready to say you can be the captain.
You could be the vocal leader and not be your team.
You know, right now, What I've noticed is that the Nuggets watching them in the playoffs.
They're very like trust is something like you see it with them because their offense moves on a string, passed the ball out of no where they're gonna be defensively.
It's the same way I've seen.
I'm watching guys like Michael Porter's union get cussed out on the court by your kitchen warmer because he's not supposed to be on defense.
I'm seeing guys like Monte Morris get minutes that really should be given to guys like, uh, I don't know the small Ford.
Is this one starting for them? Tory Craig like because they trust him.
Why? Because Will Barton and here Hairs had been injured.
Gary Harris is finally back.
But like Game one, it was Yokich and Murray, and they had no problem with it because they got last year that they went through to game sevens theory.
For that, they have taken their lumps.
They're ready to try to make that like these guys feel like okay, we needed We can take that next step and you know, Palmer said.
Will Barton, Gary Harris, Jamal Murray, Nicole yokels.
Those five trust each other because they had been through Final One another.
Michael Porter Jr.
You have been healthy.
Is your first time in the playoffs.
I don't want you put well for them they don't want and pull in threes.
Torrey Craig man honestly made your here filling in right now, playing this fall for a spot you really given us much.
One person I love and I have a scene.
He's just getting on the court now because his defense PJ Dozier, um, was the sixth explain.
Guard can defend Monte Morris, but, like, you know, you got Plumlee.
I think they trust point like their core, their core.
Court eight, they trust.
But the problem is with Harris and Barton had being had being hurt for so long.
They had to go to Torrey, Craig and Puget Dozier and my Porter Jr three guys.
They didn't necessarily trust as much.
Um, but I'm not willing to say yet that three games constitutes this extra mom or his team or constitutes this as, uh, he's there.
He's gonna be who they build around forward.
I still think that Yokich is the guy.
I think they're right now.
If you watch the way the two teams were playing defense.
They're very predicated on that.
They both have bigs who cannot guard guards Go bears little more equipped in Yokich.
But they Yokich Plumlee, go Bear cannot longer guards Bradley let him.
So when they go pick and roll, they play off.
Well, you got guys were making shots, right? So this matchup, this Siri's Jamal Murray is the guy.
When you go play the clippers and angle be Joan Jamal Murray when he's gonna have Patrick Beverley in his pocket that Paul George in his pocket quad Leonard in his pocket because they're not guarding Yokich.
And if I'm Dr But I'm not wasting that match up with Tori Craig, right? Landers she met in his pocket, we could go on and on, like so that matchup.
And then you've got going.
Who can you got Marcus Morris playing before? And you've got.
When you have trez in the game Montrose hair, You've got bigs who can move their feet.
So it's not gonna be when you go pick a rover is gonna play off and make you make shots.
No, no, it's gonna be all right.
We got to go back to our, you know, motion offense.
Run through Yokich kind of thing.
You could get your buckets right now your coaches matchup.
Isn't that great? Because he's got a the previous defensive player of the year and, you know, you know, he was top whatever.
Top three in the voting this year.
Eso his matchup right now the favorable.
But I don't want you know you can't use three games to say that.
And so that's where I really felt it was.
Unauthentic is Jay Williams, and part of the reason why I decided to make this podcast and because I wanted to get wrong things out there because, like people in sports shows, they like to make these bold statements because all about ratings, right, it's all again people.
Listen, all I get people to talk about your show so they say bold things like, Oh, he you know, I mean, talk about bold people.
Ryan Hollins, that's all.
Don't let me get started on Ryan Hollins.
Yeah, well done.
That's it. That's his name.
But like guys like that.
And so when I heard that it irritated me, This is why it irritated me because the segment before Zubin had asked him, Do you think that Jamal Murray's own in the moment more than Johannes is? And Jay Williams was like, Oh, no, you know, Johannes is probably me to time and BP just one defensive player of the year.
This that in the third.
You know, he's still putting up great numbers and you can't use three games to, um overshadow both for years.
And I said, Oh, so you can't use three games because I don't think that that claim is unfair.
Jamal Murray is owning the playoff moment better than Yonas.
This is what that means.
Wherever I said the level when you go to the playoffs, you up your **** a level.
This is what this means.
Jamal Murray plays at whatever level, and in the playoffs, he's upped it tremendously.
Yonas plays at the same level, whether it's regular season or postseason.
There isn't another gear that he goes to, and that's what that means.
It's playoff time.
Let me let me vamp it up. Jimmy Butler.
Obviously, LeBron's always new level.
Kobe New level, who doesn't play at a new level.
Russell Westbrook James Harden honest, like these guys play the exact same level that they were playing in the regular season, right? And so that's what it meant.
And so that's what really irritated me about J.
William. That's why I asked you that.
Because over those three games, all of a sudden it's Jamal Jamal Murray's team now.
Oh, go for Oh, yeah, But you know, I'm over here and I didn't know that, Jay Williams said that which is very contradicted statement.
And you know who wants to be contradictory, not me.
So here's what I will say.
I say this because I watched him play during the regular season and I saw what Small could do I like.
I said he can attacked about.
He's been doing it.
This, this, this isn't new.
You know, I watched them score 36 because I like I said, I like Denver.
Um, I like I said, I love joke it, but I do recognize that Jamal Murray is probably the one maybe have to not even just have to go with.
But they do listen to They do take things from, you know, if he's cussing people out on the court this wasn't this thing.
New ain't just cause it's happening now in these three games.
No, he's been doing that, and, like I said, I saw I saw something in my Kentucky.
I see it still in them and it still is it the once again another ceiling that's not reaches.
Now he's the license.
Is his team now because of the resume.
He is building up, you know, now you could argue, but well, during the regular season he was averaging, you know, our if it's the regulars I'm not sure of this thing is talking about the regular season or just his career averages.
It was saying that during it was 18 points a game.
Ah, during his ah, you know during the year.
But that doesn't say how many games has gotten 30.
How many games has gotten 20 consistently And things of that sort may be nice, consistent as the James Harden, But, yes, you could see the level of plate go up laser focus right now, So yeah, not just three games whole year.
That's why he is his team now.
So he's showing that right now for sure as fair, that's fair.
Oh, we are running out of time.
So we gotta We had a Elian rapid quickly.
So I mean, let's talk about Johannes.
I heard somebody made a great point.
Um, you know, you honest is one of those players.
The Bucks are not playing the best way to utilize Johannes late in the game.
They all right? So we honest place 31 minutes a game, normally, because they're always blowing people out.
They don't know what it what it really feels like to play a tight game in the fourth quarter when they're playing tight games in the fourth quarter.
Now Johannes is bringing the ball up the court.
But be honest, is not the guy.
He's not a creative guy, like a Luca or Ah Harden or even LeBron, who knows how to go get his own shot because he really only has, like, two things in his ****nal.
He's a very straight line attacker, and that's why when you wall them up like Toronto did wall them up like Miami did. Game one.
He can't do anything.
They need to start using him like a power forward.
Maybe have Middleton bring the ball up the court and set the place, put him on pick and rolls and let him work that way.
I don't think Milwaukee's doing that.
And so, of course, this is gonna put up numbers because he's a freak of nature.
But you know, it's not equating to wind and is being and so Yonas getting blamed for it.
But it's like we need to relax because I think that there's more to be said about that than just Yanis isn't coming through.
Would you agree or disagree? I think I agree.
You know, Jonah's has two things, too, when I am just two things.
But there's two things that he does very, very, very well is take the basket and finish its two biggest taste.
I mean, I know you could say like, Well, second, NASCAR's fish No finishing is different.
They're not just different, but it is different ways to finish and how your finishing but used to attack the the basket.
If you let it at the basket, he will dunk on you, all right.
His field goal percentage with an 8 ft or less is out the roof.
I don't know those numbers, spike guarantee the high.
It's with that you know there's things that you literally what you have to do, not let him in the middle or an idol.
It milk in the middle.
But I've got That's it.
That's that's That's one of things that you have to stop now with him being that's hard to do.
So you know, you know, hit like you said.
And just about, you know, we talk about tomorrow.
You know, he doesn't have that.
There's not a level to him right now.
Yeah, he might go it more intense, but there's not the extra level we know which I'm the honest is going to.
Everybody knows what t hot this is going to do.
And if you want to argue about him, get into defense, Player of the Year.
By God, go ahead.
Because, I mean, you know, that is a part of his game.
That's good, but they could buy where he's getting.
It is from the weak side and everything like that.
It isn't a you know offensively.
When he went last year, anyone that every B it's because he was the most valuable player he was attacking.
He was doing, you know, if something nobody has ever really seen before since, like, shack.
You know, Shack was the other one that was so dominant in the they changed the rule for shack, you know, three seconds again asking him and Charles Barkley.
They made the happen.
So, you know, John is has taken advantage using his height units, his limp using all those things to do these to do this.
Now, if he had a mid range game, and I know he's hitting threes now, which is fine.
I think that will be part of his game at expands.
But, you know, as far as his impact is being, you know, having the four quarter and do it like Francis yesterday, I didn't catch the game.
I got highlights.
And what it seemed like to me is that yet, John, John is was trying to go.
Okay, well, what happens when you can't go? Go, go, go anymore, You know, or you get stopped here and there.
You're going to still get your buckets.
You're so go get your rebounds here and there.
But yeah, Why don't you set up or or have it to pass it out to somebody and set yourself up I don't really see all of that.
Where you, you know, in the forecourt he got Close it out.
Um, I think I think that gets a little missing.
And then on top of that, I know you're probably gonna talk about it, but I want to go ahead and mention, you know, he had interview yesterday after the game.
He was talking about how where he was asked by a reporter about, you know, why didn't you switch off to Jimmy Butler stuff, you know, And it's kind of you off the precipice of him winning the defensive Player of the year, which was talking about.
And so, um, hey, had the, uh I know you saw it, but he had a kind of a look of puzzling.
What do you mean by asking that kind of kind of reaction to it? And he said, I didn't I didn't ask to switch on him.
And why would up? And that's a problem for me a little bit.
You know, as much as I like G honest and everything and what he stands for and everything of that sort, it is a great story.
Great family, too.
There's another one coming from from, You know, I think he's in high school, right? He's like six No.
Nine or something like that.
Don't quote me, but a Sfar, as you know.
Gee, honest, there's There's something about that, you know? Obviously, Jimmy Butler is getting off at this point.
He had 40 point game yesterday, So if I'm gee honest, you know, that's my time.
I need to around the defensive player of the year.
Why am I not guarding the best player on the other team? Why am I not taking that? You know, Not is not personal but that challenge, you know, because I think he did challenge himself this year by shooting more threes, right? He knows that he could get to the bucket any time he wants.
He knows he could tell you tip slam or tip it to himself and get 800,000 rebounds himself.
He knows all these things, but the thing about it is that yeah, that that separation right there, man, you know that that that these guys go into the playoffs with the extreme focus.
It's like it's lacking a little bit, and that in you're seeing that it's not.
He's not putting.
He's putting 100% effort in all the right things.
But there's, you know, once again there's like, two little things that he's not doing, which is, you know, taking that role of I'm the defensive player of the year.
I'm going to die.
He not going to be my team.
And if we're going to be honest about Jimmy Butler dismantled the Bucks yesterday in the fourth quarter.
Especially, you know, he was going throughout the game doing his thing.
But watching, watching those highlights like, um, not too long ago.
I mean, Jimmy Butler was given the work, and John has had no answer for it.
And that's the problem right there for me.
So yeah, I do agree.
Yeah, you know, Yonas has always been wired differently, right? So he doesn't work out with the guys during the summer.
Um, he's very much like I was working on my own works hard, yet he's always he every game of the regular season.
He plays it like a playoff game, which again, is why doesn't that next level? Um and so, yeah, like he's also not wired to say, you know what, but what Coach is talking about? I'm gonna go guard him.
Um, he's not really illustrated Wired to say that.
And so, yeah, when I watched that, he says, no, I didn't ask to switch.
And he was like, You know, what would you ask that? And like, you know, it's been, you know, he's like, No, you know, I do what coach tells me to do, okay, Like, I don't know if I feel like he needs to say, Hey, No, because Jimmy Butler, on the other hand, is the kind of guy would be like, Oh, no, you know, you know, about killed us.
But at the same time, you know, I can't expect everyone to be that kind of leader.
Um, so But at the end of the day, you know, Coach, then my boon hoses should've settled.
You locked that up? Uh, can we can't let him get 40 Given.
But there is a great player.
He's not. He should not be giving you 40.
Uh, and now he's not gonna shoot that well, again like that, you know? No.
You know what I want to say? That I don't disrespect, but I mean, like, you know, the way he shot was, you know, about lots up.
My I don't expect that consistently may do it again, but not consistently so.
But even still, it's like, you gotta figure something out, Mike.
We could pump the brakes on the honest a little bit, but obviously, it's just received when you got great guys and it seems like, wow, they've hit Ah, high pinnacle so fast.
You know, it's really easy to kind of see some of those fall.
So we're seeing those false kind of come out.
We honest and again, it's a development league.
Like until you're 89 years in the league, like Anthony Davis is just now being what he is pretty much gonna be, uh, career, everything Davis has been leaks seven years.
So, like, that's that's what I mean, like, it's gonna take time, but who they are, who they're gonna be.
Indeed, and Simmons or not who they're gonna be yet, right? Uh, Jason's Hatem is not who he's gonna be yet.
Jamal Murray and Donald Mitchell or not who they're gonna be yet, you know, like once you get to year 78 That's when that's why teams get, you know, there.
Uh uh, their son, the solemn two year with two year, um, restricted for their drafted.
And you sign up for through.
That's why it's usually seven years before you actually go to a to a new team.
Because that's seven.
That's when they really learn what that player is.
So, um, yeah, well, pump the brakes on.
Be honest, were actually really, really short on time.
So we will say this, uh, quick kind of fast, quick, fast and in a hurry your products from around one Give me.
Give me three things that surprised you.
Surprised for around one.
I will say Luca was a surprise just the way how everything was handled and everything and just, you know, taking on pressure against the clip are very good.
Let's not forget, you know, I know.
Uh, they made a very interesting so surprisingly interesting If you want.
If you're expecting the clippers to blow the Mavericks out well, you got your answer.
They could close them out earlier than you know expected.
So are not early expected, but they gain.
Give him the sweep, but they got him in six.
So, you know, right there, that's a little stressor.
You know, things like that on the Clippers.
So Luca made that happen.
So I could say that, um, another.
I think it's surprised.
Was Indiana Pacers going getting slept? I did not know that.
I did not think that shot to my homeboy.
You know, I played with him for, you know, at least six years in a You.
I've seen that man do some crazy things, right? And, you know, I don't know, As a team over for the Pacers, they did not show up.
I let me just be honest, man.
They got they got swept it to a Miami team that, you know, they have a rival riflery with.
That was a little disappointing.
So and then they fired Nate McMillan right after he signed an extension.
I mean, that kind of goes to show and tells you that, you know, there's some expectations over there.
There were met and they just couldn't they couldn't live with another year off going through that disappointment, so yeah, that was a very of that was a surprise to me on and then my third and final surprise.
Um, I think, uh, it's a tough one.
Uh, I think a surprise.
As impressed about Jamal Murray and Donald Mitchell.
I don't think anybody understood or that I understood.
But I knew that I was gonna come Hadn't happened.
I think we're seeing two guys really going at it.
And, like you said, the future is is in good hands.
These two guys were going at it and giving their all game sick.
Their Game seven is gonna be incredible.
I think it's it's gonna come down on whose.
Which guys gonna be better if you look at the stats, they're pretty much even.
And so within, like, point this or point that from each other for any status down there.
And so, um, that's a surprise to me, for sure.
So we'll see what games seven holds, but, you know, those are my three surprises.
Speaking of Game seven Nuggets first Jazz, Who you got? Denver.
Do you think the pressures on Utah because they have two chances did not get it done? So the pressure is all on them.
Denver's rolling Denver and nose like this is what we're gonna do to beat him.
There has been there before, and I do think there were as well, um, Houston and Oklahoma City.
Where you at Oklahoma City? I think Chris Paul is exposing them is exposed them.
And I saw a little mean I didn't watch that game either.
But from all I can tell there people were tweeting and you know everything of this.
My cousin Ryan sat out to him.
He knew he was tweeting a game I know he's happy about.
On I ate probably feels pretty good about their chances right now.
I think Chris Paul is leading that charge right there is right.
There's example of a guy that's using his veteran, you know, aspects and everything.
Get me Chris Paul.
Still, you could argue that you want to respond votive for M v P, but definitely deserves some boats and what he's doing, he's getting.
He's bringing along Shame, guilt yourself, Alexander Ah, he's got Dennis off the bench.
They got Danilo.
Gallinari, who has always been a solid veteran and solid player on Steven Adams, is out there, too, and so as as a full team over there, I think Okecie, might you probable get over the hump? Because I think Rockets are still trying to figure it out.
So, you know, I have seen the Rockets in too many game sevens to to actually trust them.
I think the Rockets have lost trust with a lot of people in a Game seven.
We've watched it.
How many years now and in the same results, you know, and going home, whether it be around 12 or you get to the conference finals, you just you cough it up and so I don't want to say that is going to be more of the same.
I hope I'm wrong for this.
For the sake of Russell Westbrook's ah legacy, James Harden's legacy, you know, sounds Raleigh board P. J.
Tucker's, but you know, some some of those things in, You know, I hope they get it done, but I just still trust it from trusted enough for me to pick him.
So they're enough. Fair enough.
Yeah, I picked Oklahoma City and seven start I'm a stick with it.
Game six was there to take in closing out.
They did not do it.
You mentioned in legacies, and that's actually really important to think about.
You know James Harden and Russell Westbrook.
The one of the biggest knocks on them is you could be Mr Triple Double you can put up.
You know, the numbers James Harden puts up, but like the postseason, like, What are you doing in the postseason? Westbrook hasn't won a serious since Kevin Durant left Oklahoma City point blank in the story.
Harden is known for coming up short, and now they're both together, and they can't get it done in Oklahoma City team.
That wasn't supposed to make the playoffs.
If they did, they were supposed to be not granted over.
The city's better than expected, but you're not supposed to lose this series.
The fact that started Game seven is already in issue.
You're not supposed to lose this series.
I think that Oh, come sees better, coached anyone who knows me and follows this podcast listens to me, knows good and well I cannot stand.
Houston, I can't watch him.
I can't stand talking about him.
I hate it that Frank, I hate what they're doing.
So, like, you know, But this is bad.
And if they lose, D'Antoni doesn't have a contract.
Is reason for that? Um, he's out of there made.
Maybe they keep signed Mark back matter? Well, yeah, you know, film.
But it was the sixties with your net.
But there, that's what sounds the ploy did also want to bring up, you know, with the heat in the Pacers, One thing was really disappointing.
Yeah, the Pacers got swept, but they had a lot of injuries.
I think that Nate McMillan was doing kind of charity.
Um, you know, as far as T.
I mean, you can't sit there and do what you did in the bubble, and then you come up against Miami and he came up short, like you would have book notes, you know, having a much more personal level than I do.
But we have both met T. J.
Bill had any conversations with him and stuff, and I was not I mean, at the end of the day, like he still had a great coming out party in the bubble.
I'm still very proud of him, but I know he did.
He didn't come correct.
He didn't come with like I expected.
So that did kind of, Ah, you know, rub me the wrong way.
So I hope that, you know, they all learn from this experience all the depots, a shell of himself.
So I don't wanna hold too much against them.
And at that point, and at this point, we are pretty much out of time.
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