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When signing up at my bookie dot a g so on Monday winning season really didn't seem like it was going on for the Cleveland Indians, who, as we now know, unless you've been living under a rock here on Wednesday, traded starting pitcher Mike Levinger and Greg Allen to San Diego for six prospects.
And on Sunday, the day before the trade happens, all we're hearing about is how the Cleveland Indians asking price is super high.
The asking price for Club is astronomical.
It might not be a trade that happens until, you know, until the winter meetings this offseason, it seemed like Mike Levinger was going to be an Indian because the asking price was too high.
I'm thinking the asking price is Ah, Vlad Guerrero Jr cause the Toronto Blue Jays air in the trade.
I'm thinking an asking price is a package over Ronald Acuna, and obviously we'd have to send Mike Levinger plus more pieces to these teams to get a young, promising bat that the Indians so desperately needed going into this deadline.
So I'm thinking Vlady, I'm thinking a kuna.
The Padres were heavily involved.
I'm thinking Totti's would be but just apparent here to the Francisco Linda or thrown.
And at that point, hell, you could trade, Francisco Lindor or the deadline? I'm thinking big names.
We got Mike Levinger.
The guy could go out there and win a Cy Young.
He's been consistent for this team since 2016 when he debuted.
This guy is a top of the rotation guy.
He's an ace on many teams, and he's been the number two number three guy here for a very long time on one of the best pitching rotations in the league.
And in my personal and professional opinion, that doesn't happen by accident.
He was traded for by Cleveland from the Los Angeles Angels, and he was developed through the farm system perfectly and flawlessly.
He was brought up in a low pressure situation in a team full of veterans with Cory Kluiber, Prime Cookie, Carraz, go Trevor Bauer and clubs 29 he's controllable for two or three more seasons.
I'm like, Okay, perfect.
If you're not going to get one of these big these big bats, one of these huge names just wait and do it till winter.
And I know people are going to tweet the show at Padoan, my take and my personal twitter right down there at Nick put on 12 and say, Well, neck, we just heard about all the stuff that happened with him and please sack in Chicago and he snuck out and it wasn't just dinner.
It wasn't as pretty as we thought it was.
And that really put a damper on the locker room, Did it? Did it cause Oliver Perez was a little upset We're gonna trade away.
That could win the Cy Young at seemingly any given time.
The guy left any any, Paid his price.
He went and got sent down to the minors.
Quarantine goddess Krone tests.
Everything checked out.
I'm sorry, Opie, that you were upset about that.
But the guy paid is paid his dues.
The tribe going into the trade deadline were tied for first place, currently sitting one game out of first place as this podcast is being recorded on Wednesday.
And it seems to me like they were sellers at the deadline.
It seems to me like the Cleveland Indians took a guy that could win a Cy Young pretty much whenever he wants to.
And whenever he's healthy enough to do that and what they getting in return.
Not Ronald Acuna.
Not Vlady, not Fernando Totti's.
We got the freakin poo poo platter for a guy that could win the Cy Young.
We end up with six prospects.
We don't get the big outfield bat that tribe fans myself included, were hoping for.
Of course, Yasiel Puig is still out there, and the reports in the buzz around him seem to be that.
For that, Francona doesn't like Tweak that Puig doesn't fit what the Indians dio.
Well, what did the Indians do, you know, be stuck in the middle, make these make these weird, goofy trays that we're not going to know the outcome of it for three more years.
I hate nothing more than when a trade happens.
I have to get on my computer on my phone and Google, who the hell the team got.
That's not a blockbuster trade.
That doesn't happen in the n.
B. A. That doesn't happen in the NFL.
Remember when LeBron's last year in Cleveland, when the Cavs blow up their whole roster right at the deadline? I didn't have to Google any of those guys.
I knew who Jordan Clarkson was.
I know who Larry Nance is.
And maybe that's a marketing issue.
And I don't want to go down that rabbit hole, but I'm not here Googling, you know, the the Braves.
Their top prospect, Drew Waters, was apparently in the conversation.
Okay, Sweet Drew Waters.
I still had to Google who it waas, but man, at that point, he would have even been nicer.
So another thing is, Well, Nick, you're overreacting because we have Zach Police Act.
He was involved in the Chicago slip up, Aziz well, but he's not going anywhere.
He's still on the team, and he's going to be on the team for the foreseeable future.
You know, he's a young, controllable arm.
He is a much smoother delivery.
He's not gonna be as injury prone is Clement.
Er I've heard it all.
You don't just replace Mike Levinger with Zach.
I hate to tell you that, but it's the truth.
Zach Police Act has had maybe five or six good outings for the Cleveland Indians, and he's going to be good one day.
Maybe not as good as Mike Levinger.
We don't know that yet, but what I do know for sure is Mike Levinger was a **** good picture for this organization since 2016.
That's four years, if you're counting.
He played in a World Series.
He pitched as a starter in playoff games.
He's been a part of a winning culture here in Cleveland, Ohio, and it concerns me that a guy like that is gone.
And I don't think you just replace a guy like that with Zach Police Act.
And I hate to break it to Tribe fans.
But in my opinion again, I think the same thing is gonna happen with Francisco Lindor or here, what in the coming months And maybe, you know, maybe a year.
If we're lucky, I think the same thing is gonna happen where we're going to trade him away for prospects that nobody's ever heard off.
Hopefully, this time around you get maybe, like the two number one or number two.
You know, overall prospect in the MLB for this Clevinger trade, we only managed to pull off one of their top 10 guy.
So, like, you mean to tell me that that the Indians couldn't have even tapped a little bit further into the prospect well and gotten a guy a little bit better.
And I know these guys were going to be good three years down the road and people probably freaking somehow remember this show and be like, Oh, you were mad about that Clevinger trade when it happened.
Don't you like this Gabriel Arias? Yeah, I like him.
I'm not saying that, but what I'm saying is he's 20 years old, played a half of a season in Division A ball, and I just can't get that excited about that right now because I'm looking at a team.
When I did this show the first time I went on these airwaves, what six weeks ago, it was for the Indians live pregame show with Adam Plutko Super exciting show, my first time hosting my own show on big play.
The Indians are starting.
They got there dominant pitching rotation and best in the league.
Ah, hitting rotation to be racking with.
I'm like, ****, this team is gonna be a be a force to be reckoned with in their division in the A l possibly make a run for the World Series.
But what do I get at the deadline? I get duped again.
I don't get my big bat.
I get a bunch of prospects that I then I'll get to see in three years and they'll come up and hopefully be ready.
I'm just not thrilled about it, because if I was running the organization and it's probably a **** good thing that I'm not, I would have went into the deadline and said, We're going to get a big league bet I know Joey Gallo doesn't have his best swing right now.
He he's hitting in abysmal average.
That ain't his fault.
He's trying to hit for power.
That's what the tribe needs right now is some power.
How about Sterling Marty? His name has been thrown around in this city for months.
Uh, couldn't get him either, knowing Instead I got Josh Naylor, who's a converted first baseman that I pray to God doesn't have Ah Siri's alternate altering error in left field during the A L.
That's the point that I'm at with this team, that it seems like such a band aided and patched up roster that I'm just hoping that on a nightly basis, especially when the team does inevitably get to the playoffs that it has an enough of that star power to make it tick because you're going to be relying on a lot of young arms that haven't been there yet.
Tristan Mackenzie now becomes an everyday commodity.
We thought he was going to be a spot start.
No, he's in your rotation now.
Erin So Valley Jack, Zach police that guys that just made their debuts last year.
They've been under them in the majors for under a year.
They're going to be pitching meaningful games in the MLB playoffs.
You have a band aided up outfield with naked Nay.
Quinn Naylor, DIY Shields.
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My take now all the way from San Diego, California is the voice of those San Diego Padres from 97.3.
The fan he's the host of the Padres pre and post game shows.
And hopefully he's going to give me a little bit more optimism regarding the mic Levinger trade.
And what are Cleveland Indians were able to obtain in return? Ladies and gentlemen, here he is.
Pleased brings some optimism to the show.
Okay, so joining me now from 97.
3, the fan in San Diego is the voice of the Padres.
It's been a crazy 48 hours for Padres.
Have you slept at all, man? And thank you for joining the show, but they grabbed me on.
Yeah, well, I was able to get some sleep last night and they haven't off Stay today.
This is ah much needed off day only for them, but for me as well.
It was a world wind toward yesterday.
One of the probably the busiest trade deadlines you know we've ever experienced out here in San Diego.
Um, you know, one of my my co host on Ah, you know, the John can tear a show.
I'm 97 through the panels on the phone with him, and we were talking and I was like Coach I don't remember the last time you know they had a trade deadline like this.
And the only one I can think of in my lifetime was in 2010 when they acquired Miguel Tejada and Ryan Ludwick.
I mean, it was the biggest moves Potter's ever made at the deadline.
But you know, they go and get a closer.
And Rosenthal, they're going get Mitch Moreland from the from the Red Sox.
They get a and bullet catchers and Jason Castro in Austin.
Ola Ah, they take three guys from the Mariners bullpen and, of course, Thea, the cream of the crop.
They get Mike Levinger from the Cleveland Indians, which is a very big move of the Padres and in the trade as well.
They got local boy Greg Allen.
So now you know the Padres have to San Diego kids, then Greg on their roster, which is kind of interesting as well.
So let's talk about the cream of the crop.
Let's get right into that Mike Levinger trade.
Now that we've had, you know, a little bit of time, Teoh, digest it to think about it.
How do you feel about the whole thing from both sides.
I think it's a pretty good move for both sides.
You know, the Indians, I think what they got, like, six players out of the deal.
And, ah, you know, the Padres get the front and started.
They've been needing for a long time.
Um, you know, talking to JJ Preller some, like they've had their eyes on Coventry for a long time.
Ah, this team with this high energy and his his ability to ah, no, to bring it as soon as he gets here.
And, you know, he met with the media yesterday, Couldn't wait to, ah, to be with the Padres, and, you know, kind of, ah would say a bad falling out with the Indians.
But the whole thing with please, that kind of muddy the waters a little bit.
And if you're the Indians, I mean, you've proved that you could win without Levinger with starting rotation that the Indians have so Padres getting me a fit that they really need and starting pitching and Makesem contenders, and it shortens that gap between them and the Dodgers as well.
Um, you know the partners We're missing one of those guys.
They didn't they didn't have ah, starter that kid to go toe to toe with with the Dodgers rotation.
Yeah, sure they had.
The notional Met has been pitching really well, you know, Chris Patacas, that is his bright spots.
But they still needed a guy at the front of the rotation.
Um, and and they get away with, you know, sending some pieces that are really going to help the Indians.
But you're not necessarily going to help the Padres in terms of guys being trapped.
Gabriel Orient is ah, phenomenal baseball players, only 20 years old, middle infielder.
But he's backed by, you know, he's blocked by Fernando Texas Junior.
And is he going to be as good as to teach Junior? Probably not.
And, ah, you know, even if he was I mean, it's a very difficult decision to make it with Sandy go Padres.
But he's gonna be a stud.
Um, you know, if you're the Indians got to be excited about him, I think you got to be excited about joy.
Can t uh Cantillo.
Ah, the Italian picture from Hawaii.
I mean that kids a young stud up and comer that you know the Padres you know, valued pretty high.
Um, and a term for the major league talent.
Cal Quantrill's a za guy.
It's a pretty good picture of the bull kind.
He's He's proven he can start as well.
Um, you know, you look at Josh Naylor.
Josh Naylor's you know, it's slowly starting to come into his own.
He hasn't got a lot of major league at bats, but he's got power.
Hey, gets on base, and it's It's another little offensive piece, probably, you know, for the Indians.
And then you look at a guy like Austin Hedges the second while you with the bad is not gonna help.
Um, you know that that line up.
But he is gonna help that rotation and that pitching stuff the Indians have.
I think it's a good piece, Um, in terms of just developing pictures, especially with a guy like Mackenzie.
You know, a young pitcher for Cleveland.
Um, they're coming on his way, having a catch like Hedges.
I think we'll very benefit the the Indians as well.
So I mean, overall trade.
It seemed like a lot of guys on this start, but, um, you know, I think it's think it's gonna work out for both the Indians and the Padres and we'll see where it goes.
And I think the best part is is both teams are competing for a playoff spot right now.
So it's not like one team was a seller.
And if you're one of the six guys traded from the Padres to the Indians, I mean, you go from one kind of race to a, you know, a division title race just like that.
So it would be really to see these guys compete.
Josh Naylor seems to be the MLB caliber guy that the Indians will use in left field.
Moving forward? I don't know if you had a chance to see Monday night.
He actually did end up pinch hitting at the very end of the game.
He was the last out of our game last night.
Um, what can you tell us about our new left fielder? It seems he's gonna be the everyday guy.
We've kind of had a carousel of players out there in the outfield.
What could you tell us about Josh Naylor? Eyes got some power of.
It's not as much powers, I think.
The Padres were anticipating when they came up.
And I think the biggest thing for Naylor just getting reps.
He still hasn't played, you know, 162 games.
Yet in his career.
He's only thinking like 100.
He's got nine home runs.
Um, you know, And you know, these guys feeling wives? He's not the greatest.
I mean, he is a converted first baseman.
When the Padres acquired him from the Marlins, he was the first baseman and they did not have Eric Hosmer at the time.
So once Eric Hosmer showed up all of a sudden, Josh Naylor, if you wanted to make the big leagues at a change position, so they move into the outfield, Um I mean, he's not atrocious in the out field.
I mean, he's gonna is gonna make some plays, but it's not gonna be a gold Glover out there, you know, he's kind of like along the lines of maybe like a friend mill race in terms of being in the outfield.
But he's got a good left handed bat.
He gets a lot of base hits.
Ah gets on base and ah, you know he's a guy that will probably with more development will turn into a pretty good major league baseball player for the Cleveland Indians.
Um, you have made so many different trades now with Padres.
I mean, almost every time I put on an Indians game, I just see all these old Padres bread and Adam Simmer friend Mill race.
And I got six more Padres coming through that Indian system s Oh, don't be a lot of eyes of from San Diegans looking to see the Indians throughout the next handful of, ah years or so, especially with their beloved red mill race.
I know they always check it on friend Bill all the time.
Yeah, we love him up here.
He's taking good care of us and we're taking good care because ****, that dude could hit the ball hard.
So we knew the asking price for Levinger was high.
We heard that throughout, you know, the last week or so trade talks, but it's still to me.
Feels like the tribe didn't get a big MLB caliber ready back.
Why do you think that the Indians weren't able to find the guy like that from anyone from the Blue Jays from the Braves and ultimately just settled for this huge package from the Padres.
I seem to me like the Indians wanted and they went for Ah, you know, quantity over quality in terms of just, you know, just getting guys.
And they had a lot of guys.
I mean, I mean, other guys that that the Indians acquired in those players are our guys.
They're not good.
They're basically just a roster filled guys.
Um, you know, and they have the potential to be starters, I think.
Especially the young guys like Arias.
Um, but for for the Indians, I mean, I think they probably thought that, you know, maybe with Thea the late edition of Hedges, maybe, or something like that.
And it's like, Look, we can't turn around, Turn turn.
You know, good caliber guys that can help our roster out right now.
And, you know, maybe they thought that that was the deal.
If they could make now instead of during the off season. I don't know.
Maybe it was a panic move, but it gets weird of the trade deadline because you have, you know, you got a ticking clock.
I mean, if you don't trade Cleaven dropped the deadline, you know, now you have to deal with them for the remainder of the season.
It obviously was something where that that relationship was kind of fractured.
Didn't sound like that was gonna be a good thing moving forward.
So it was kind of like we got to get rid of this guy now Sort of deal.
And the Padres obviously had the best offer on the table.
I don't know about a big league bat in terms of some of these buyers sending somebody that way.
Just because they're gonna need everybody's gonna need those bats with playoff push anyway, So I was very interesting to me.
I thought, honestly, I thought, if the Padres, we're going to swing Mike Clevinger, they would have to part ways with C.
Abrams or Louise campus on or one of their top, you know, front of the prospects.
I know for a fact that Gore was not touchable.
Patino was not gonna be touched.
Um, I thought for sure, because, you know, and this happens, you know, before they went and got Clevinger.
But when Taylor term l got traded in the trade for Austin Nola, I thought for sure um, you know, the Padres.
We're gonna have to break the bank to try to get a starting pitcher, because I thought that was the key to getting a starter.
Somebody that the Padres, um you know, didn't really have I wouldn't say didn't have a need for But, you know, with the emergency Trent Grisham and Wil Myers playing really well, I mean, Taylor trim l of a sudden was kind of trap as well and usually top prospect highly regarded.
I thought for sure he would be moved, you know, to a team for a pitcher.
But I think it came that just the the the amount of quantity that the Indians were able to ah, pick up because they got a lot of good players.
They got a lot of future, you know, stars coming up through that system with what the Padres just tell that.
I just think, um, in terms of the Padres, you didn't have to give up any really any of your top players.
I mean, ended up surviving the trade.
That line only given up two of their top 10 prospects, but I thought was amazing.
Um, you know, they parted ways with some with some ah, major leaguers.
But at the end of the day, you know, I think you probably did a really good job and to answer your question, kind of a long winded way.
I think the Indians, I think this is the best.
Well, they were going to get I mean it, to be honest with you.
They get they get a bunch of you gonna have to get a handful of major league ready talent in Hedges and, uh, Quantrill and Naylor.
And then they get, you know, some young guys that that might prove to be some really good players.
And again, it's It's hard to see right now because when the Padres acquired Fernanda, Texas junior for James Shields, I remember a lot of Padres fans, but we just gave up James Shields for a 17 year old.
Um, and that was the rumor on the street.
Azari is gonna be Fernanda taxis Jr.
Who knows? Probably not.
But he's still gonna be probably a top of line player down the road for the Indians.
And this is one of those moves that you're gonna have to sit there and figure out over the next sample of years because, you know, the day after the deadline is very hard to, ah, put a great on it.
Aside from the fact that the Padres got Mike Levinger, the Indians got rid of a guy that knows it, probably a clubhouse fractured relationship.
And then they picked up a lot of a lot of a lot of players I think will help them right now and in the future.
So Area says to me, is the most interesting piece of the trade, obviously 20 years old.
Prospect in the Padre system.
17 bombs last year, 302 average.
How long do you think, though it will take Tribe fans till we actually see him up here in the majors? And do you think it's possible that he could be at least some sort of replacement for the superstar we have here? Francisco.
I think that's why the Indians acquired to be Honestly, I think it's kind of like the legend or backup plan, and, you know, is he going to be is good is Lador.
I can't really put that out there yet, and I can't say you just traded for a future Francis School indoor.
But, um, you know, based on all the scouts that talked to and in different guys, were on the ball club like that could stunt.
I watched him play, Um, you know, when they were doing their Inter squad scrimmages? Um, he's been a guy that's been out.
The alternate training site has been a guy that, you know, has been with the big league club in spring training a handful of times.
And he's just a player that, unfortunately, you know, in the Padres system is just, you know, they've made their system so loaded and they got somebody young guys up top that it's it's you start doing the game, the numbers game, you're like, Well, you know, the shortstop in front of me is 21 but I'm 20.
So it's like at the end of the day, it's probably not gonna be a move for him.
Ah, that that's Ah that he would want to be with.
So it's probably better Ferrari is that he's on the Indians.
I think he's got a lot of room for potential.
I think the Indians have a good opportunity to potentially have him as a second baseman moving forward until they decide what's going on with the door, cause if the Indians decided, bring one door back even though it sounds like it's probably not gonna be the case, you know, you got a pretty good, Ah, up the middle right there.
And if not, you know, Gabriel Arias could be your, you know, shortstop of the future and a guy that could be an every day starter at shortstop.
So I think it's a pretty good move for the Indians getting Arias.
I think it's a good move for Arias as well, and I think at the end of the day, I think a lot of these Padres trades.
I think it was better off for the players they traded away in terms of their opportunity.
Nuts going attended like Type France, third ba*****t heart from San Diego State.
You know, kind of a local product that Padres fans, lights and coming off the bench.
But him getting an opportunity to go play in Seattle get opportunity to start now and I think he's probably excited for that and I think Arias is excited for the opportunities and I think a lot of these guys um, you know, that the Padres have shipped over might have an opportunity to play for the Indians.
And not because the Indians aren't good is the Padres.
I think their record is almost better, Um, but I think it's because of just the holes that the Indians have compared to the holes that the Padres have.
And I, I think, overall was a move for both teams.
Got to address what they needed in terms of, ah, you know, a playoff push for this year.
But in the future, did the Indians get a bat for the major league team? No.
But, you know, they got a lot of the things I can help their ball club win one trade.
I mean, you can't really, like, say who wins and who loses, You know, a couple of days after, um, you know, I think it's pretty even, to be honest with you, I I think the Padres did have to sacrifice a lot of players.
Um, you know, some guys that, you know, maybe Padres fans were a little upset.
Um, you know, you start, you finally started to get a little bit of work out of control.
You know, Naylor was starting Hit the ball.
Well, in fact, you know, two days ago he had a absolute moon shot out.
Of course, field.
I mean, a both hammered.
Um, so I I think right now it's pretty even.
I mean, who's is? Who's to know? I mean, you know, Greg Allen might just be really good, you know, with the change of scenery and playing his hometown, Um, you know, if he comes out and, you know, like, turns into a guy that you know is helping the vocal of each and every day.
Ah, and it does a little bit more than what Cleveland got out of them.
Then you would say the Padres get the win.
I mean, Mike Levinger could get shelved the next, like, three starts he has.
I mean, it's just I think it's gonna be kind of Ah ah, deal where you kind of evaluate the next couple years and you know it.
The Padres have made a lot of trades like that that, you know, on paper, you're like, Oh, I think this is a win for the Padres.
They got four prospects for Adrian Gonzalez met all of a sudden, this prospects don't pan out or they end up getting shipped away for something else.
So you never really know the Indians could flip one of those guys for another bat, potentially.
Not this year, but, you know, in the in the off season are maybe next year.
You know, flip one of those.
Ah, you know, pictures. They can flip.
You know, Cantillo.
I mean, there's a lot of different ways you could go about it.
I think, as of right now, it's too hard to evaluate in terms of who won the one the deal.
But I think both sides they're definitely gonna benefit, you know, short term and long term.
Great stuff, man.
You got me feeling a little bit better about the deal.
I'll be honest with you.
I was a little hurt.
I was gonna miss my sunshine.
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Um, but it's, ah, pretty fun time to be a Padres fan.
We're looking forward to it and were reported taking care of Ah Sunshine, Mike Levinger And, um you know, despite what Greg Out done, maybe for the Indians were excited to have another local boy back because San Diego's very prideful of the of the kids that they have produced, um, out of the, uh, you know, into the big leagues.
And ah, it's really fun to have another one of those kids back in Greg Allen.
You could make an all star team.
I think with the San Diego products like Tommy Edmon.
And then you got the, uh, you got the Pittsburgh Pirates of San Diego.
They got five San Diego kids on their team, so it's It's pretty fun.
And it's pretty cool that we get Ah, San Diego State kid in a high school kid back, especially since we lost our standing of state as second type France of deadline.
So we'll take care of Alan.
Take care of Clevinger and, you know, hopefully, ah, Padres and Indians might see Children. The World Series.
The wishful thinking, right? The veal and it would be a lot of fun.
We'd have to have this conversation again.
I appreciate it, man.
Absolutely great stuff there from the voice of the San Diego Padres.
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He thinks the trade is a little bit of a push, and I know some people here in Cleveland feel that way and want to sit here and wait it out.
He brings up valid points that, you know, the tribe got back six players, and if you just look at it from a logistical standpoint, even if you know nothing about sports, if you're eating six players, regardless of age, skill, whatever.
If you're eating six back in turn for two, chances are you could hit on some of the six.
And I know that's the truth.
Those are the kinds of trades that the Dole and family loves to make and that Chris Antonetti loves to take those gambles on.
And the tribe probably does deserve the benefit of the doubt in this trade, especially long term, because that's who they've proven to be a zone organization and as a front office.
But I personally just can't get excited about it.
Still, even after hearing braid in, you know it's talking about, you know, Gabriel Areas and talking about Call Cantillo and the rest of the pictures.
You know, the bullpen guy.
It's just to me that you traded a guy that's one of the best in his position in the entire world, and you and you gave him away for six maybes.
And to me, that's not good enough.
And I know it is for a lot of people.
I know it definitely was for braid, and he thought they gave him up a lot.
I do think he said some interesting things about how he thought In order to swing of Mike Levinger, the Padres would have to trade one of their top prospects, and they didn't have to.
Do you know their number one or number two guy? And they didn't have to do that.
They really only gave Cleveland pieces that didn't fit their anyways.
Their shortstop was behind Fernando Totti's junior.
Their pictures were gonna be behind Clev, injured and you know, stuff like that.
So to me, it seems like we gave up the goods and we got in return the poo poo platter.
We just didn't get enough back and we'll see down the road, I'm sure will be fine.
I'm sure we'll love Naylor.
And maybe Naylor comes alive and he hits seven or eight bombs in September and leads us to a postseason run that we remember forever.
And nobody will give two craps about Mike Levinger.
I think that's a very, you know, decent likelihood.
The guy has some pop in his bat.
He was hitting the ball well, you know, ever since the trade, it seems, but to me, he's still didn't get enough great stuff, though from Brain and Sir pregnant.
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So ESPN put out a list and we see these lists all the time on social media.
We get riled up about them, whether they're ranking fast food chains.
You know, professional athletes.
We get angry at them.
That's what we do. A sports fans.
That's what we do as a society.
That's who we've become, love it or hate it as a society.
So ESPN went ahead and put out the players that they predict to be in the top 100 of the NFL this season.
And obviously that's a large conversation to be head, because do you value quarterbacks? Do you value running backs? You know, how do you value each player? So today we got to do the do it the old fashioned way, and we're gonna get mad at a list because some of this stuff was flat out outrageous coming in at 12 overall in the National Football League in 2020 is Cleveland Browns defense of end Myles Garrett.
I feel like 12 is a fair spot, this one I'm not gonna get mad at because Myles Garrett we didn't get to see much of him last year after the whole helmet swing incident.
Obviously, that was a black eye, not only for his own career but also the entire National Football League.
He paid his price.
He got the big contract this offseason.
We're expecting a hell of a lot out of Myles Garrett heading into 2020 and having 12 hour.
Having 11 players in front of him, to me is fair and makes sense.
Aaron Donald was the big name pass rusher and enforcer that was ahead of him in these rankings.
Again, I feel like that's fair.
One defensive player of the year is played in a Super Bowl, part of a winning culture out there in L.
But if the Browns air good this year, when we're looking at these 2021 rankings next season, I'd expect Myles Garrett to be up there.
You know, Upper, even a little bit higher than 12 I think he's gonna have that great of a 2020 season, and I think 12 is completely fair based of off of what we've seen in his career thus far.
So coming in at number 40 on the NFL's ranking list.
Another fair assessment.
Cleveland Browns wide receiver Odell Beckham Jr.
I can't get mad at this one, either.
The only thing I'll get mad at this for Jarvis.
Not on the list.
So, according to the NFL, Jarvis Landry is not a top 100 projected player for 2020.
I think Odell is going to benefit the most behind Nick Chubb and Cream Hunt and Baker in this offense.
I think it's gonna be an offense that finds Odell a lot of targets because this play action is going to get the defense is focused on Andy Jankovich.
It's gonna get them focussed on Nick Chubb on cream hunt on Austin Hooper on.
You know, David a joke.
Who? Harrison Bryant.
The tight ends. There's so much firepower.
And if you want to try to double team, Odell Baker can easily toss that check down.
We saw Nick Chubb is capable of catching passes.
We know for a fact that Kareem Hunt is capable of catching passes.
I think Odell will be a guy that benefits greatly from this, and he's ranked 40 on this list after having arguably one of his worst seasons in the NFL.
Just barely over 1000 yards.
Hardly any touchdowns.
There were a handful of questionable receivers that were ahead of Odell on this list, but for 2020 I think will be good.
My same take with Myles Garrett is if the Cleveland Browns were good this season.
And if that offensive tickin and of Baker Mayfield dare I say it enters that sleeper M v p discussion if everything is hitting on all cylinders like we so desperately wanted to be and like we so you know, seriously thought it was going to be last year, Odell is gonna be a beast.
I think Odell again, we'll be looking at the 2021 rankings, and Odell will be higher than 40.
Maybe even into 20 people fall in love with them in the fantasy leagues all over again.
I think he's gonna benefit from his defense. Gilot.
So here's where you get a little bit out of whack.
Coming in at number 59 on the NFL Top 100 list.
Predicting top 100 players for the 2020 season is Nick Chop.
So Nick Chubb, according to this list, is the 59th best player in the National Football League heading into 2020.
Really like Like, What do I even have to say about this? The guy almost won the rushing title last.
He would have won the rushing title last year if it wasn't for Freddie Bathrooms, just absolutely ****ing his pants in the last game of the season.
Nick Chocolate, 59 is ridiculous.
And when you look at the running backs in front of him, it's not bat. Ridiculous.
They do have Christian McCaffrey above him as well as Derrick Henry.
They have Alvin Kamara.
I could see that sick Juan Barkley based off what you saw last year.
I got to give Nick Chubb the edge.
Ezekiel Elliott again.
After what you've seen the last few years, I got you have Nick Chubb, that edge as well as ah, Dalvin.
Cook was on there too.
So just the guy that came in second for the Russian title that would have won it that's entering are extremely run happy offense in wide zones were the you know the guards pull in the middle of that offensive line parts like the Red Sea.
To me, you gotta have Nick Chubb above 59.
He's definitely got to be in the better half of 50 of the league, and I know whoever wrote this article.
All the experts at ESPN that put their brains together collectively to compile this list probably said, Look, the Browns won six games last year.
We can't put three of their players in the top five, you know, in the top half of the league.
That's kind of ridiculous.
As much talent as we have in star power.
And we heard all that junk last offseason.
I feel like the record, it comes down the wins and losses, and when these ESPN gurus we're looking at that, they probably took it into account.
But if there is a guy that deserves to be over 50 and the better half of the league coming into this year, it's got to be Nick Chubb.
I feel like what doesn't get talked enough about in this cove it age of trying to bring the NFL back, which I'm not complaining about, that.
I appreciate that.
Roger Goodell in the National Football League and JC trader who has done an outstanding job with the N F L P A and negotiating that deal with the Cove it and the testing and the safety of social distancing everything to go along with that.
I think what gets lost in all of that is no o.
A's. No preseason games, shortened training camps.
It's gonna kind of be a little bit of a messy product when it when it gets out there.
And we saw that with the NBA's last night in that, you know, Denver Nuggets vs Utah Jazz game.
That was a slappy game, and I don't know if it's definitely not cause of time off because they've had the eight tune up games for the play in Bubble, and then they had six games before that.
But the product is just sloppy.
Guys, we're going to get tired quicker and think of opposing defense is right.
Trying to stick with Odell, trying to stick with Austin Hooper trying to stick with Jarvis Landry.
I think these teams are going to rely on the run big time.
That's why it's a huge deal right now for the New Orleans Saints.
Got to get this Leonard for net stuff behind you.
We saw it this week with the Cincinnati Bengals.
Went ahead and gave Joe Mixon to deal more than probably what he was worth.
They know they got a young quarterback.
They know that they're going to need to rely on the run more than they'd like to in this sloppy, shortened season.
No rookie OT is either no pass protection experience for Jed Rick Wills in a scheme that it's hard to pass. Protect.
I think the Browns were going to run the Rock a lot, and to me, that's why it's outrages that Nick Chubb is at 59.
We saw it with Stefanski in Minnesota.
He ran Dalvin, Cook Man, and all started for Kevin Stefanski in Minnesota with the run.
That's why Dalvin Cook is the fantasy monster that he has been for the last couple of years and why he gets taken in the first five picks in drafts and why he's among the top rushers every week kissed a fancy goes run first on Let's the Run evolve into the past.
So you imagine he's gonna take that same exact philosophy passed down from Gary Kubiak to Cleveland with two premier backs and Nick Chubb and Cream Hunt in a season with it, just all there.
So watch that goes into it.
That make Chub deserves to be higher than 59.
He's He's way better than the guys that they have ranked ahead of him, and he's going to be this season.
He's gonna prove that if he stays healthy.
ESPN completely missed the mark on that one.
Coming in at 89 is Denzel Ward, and to me, Dens Award is one of the biggest and Nick buzz for the Cleveland Browns going into the season.
I think I do want to write something about that coming up because we saw rookie campaign out of Dunn's award.
That was awesome, and last year he was pretty good when he was healthy.
He does have the concussion issues, which is a huge red flag, especially as a young third year guy in the National Football League that you need to be your lead locked down cover corner for not only this year, next year and the following years to come.
We know what's important for these teams that make it to the Super Bowls, the quarterback, the offensive tackles and the cornerbacks.
You need a guy that's going to stick to the opposing players wide receivers in a past heavy league that the NFL is attempting to move towards.
So Denzel Ward needs to have a big season.
We can't have the mistakes that we saw out of Dunn's award last year with the inability to turn is had around at times with the horrible pass interference penalties in the end zone. Those were killer.
If you want to really gouge your eyes out and if you really want to depress yourself regarding Denzel Award regarding greedy Williams Ah, and regarding Sheldrick red wine, go ahead and put on the second Steelers game, the one with Duck Hodges and watch how many times the Pittsburgh Steelers just throw verticals for tickles.
Verticals down the sideline.
Devlin Hodges, Mind you was throwing verticals down the sideline to Deontay Johnson and a bunch other patch up receivers, and they absolutely torched Denzel and greedy and I know Steve Wilks had a goofy defense.
You know, he didn't rely on tackling really at all.
I don't know what was going on with that.
It seemed like we were in the prevent at all times, which drove me absolutely crazy.
You know, we're in a game down seven and Steve Wilks is in the pre vent, and it seemed like nobody was where they needed to be in his goofy zone.
And I hope that bringing in Joe Woods as the new defensive coordinator from San Francisco, where he was in charge, the defensive backs will benefit our young defensive back core in Dens Award Greedy Williams and Sheldrick Rod wine.
But if you really wanted to press yourself, go, go check that out.
We need to see the Dens Award that we saw flashes off in the first few games off the regular season in 2018 in Baker's first year, the to pick game against Big Bannon and as NFL debut, you know, the punch force fumble against the Jets game that ultimately secured the first win, and Lord knows how long for the how many days that was for the Browns.
That's the Denzel the Cleveland Browns need if their defense wants to have a shot at being legit, because that is the question mark for this team.
They got the names on offense on the defense.
Their defensive line is really good.
Linebacking corps is probably one of the worst in the NFL and their corners.
The secondary is really good.
It's also really young and really injury prone.
And to me, that all comes down to Denzel Ward.
And for him to be ranked in 89 I'm gonna have to go into head and say that That's fair for him right now, and I need to see him be higher.
They do have eight cornerbacks ahead of Ward eight CB's that are better than him.
I feel like that's really down and out about him, and I'm not really down and out about him.
But I feel like the NFL kind of gave him a little bit of hate right there.
But those are the top four guys.
Those were the only guys that made this list, and, interestingly enough, no Baker Mayfield.
That kind of puzzled me.
So you're trying to tell me that after two years removed.
Obviously, he was bad last year.
The interceptions, the record.
We heard it all.
But you're trying to tell me two years removed from having one of the best rookie campaigns that we've ever seen in only 13 games, where he set the rookie touchdown record for the National Football League and joined names like Russell Wilson that Baker Mayfield isn't a top 100 player.
Come on while you're going ahead and getting ready for this season and watching through some of those old games like I just said with the Pittsburgh game, go through and watch some of Baker.
He's not as bad as you thought.
The interceptions air bad, and I think a lot of it has to do with scheme because a lot of the receivers were running the complete wrong routes.
And when that happens, interceptions were gonna happen.
If you know anything about, football is not pretty in the slightest by the Baker's get a bounce back this year.
I think they missed the mark tremendously on this, and that's not even me being a homer because they have met Stafford.
Obviously, Dak is better than Baker.
We didn't even see last year.
He's coming off. Tommy John surgery.
They are Big Ben ranked ahead, a baker.
Ryan Tannehill like, Come on! I think Baker's gonna be able to hang with these guys.
They're not taken into account any of Freddie Kitchens as his defensive coordinator last year.
Let's give the guy a break.
Let's get excited here.
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We're gonna talk about somebody that missed the mark, somebody that hit the mark and somebody that was so in the middle that they don't even know where they're so are small play of the week.
Let's get this thing started with Marcus Morris.
You're doing Marcus Morris Clippers, Big men.
Possibly one of the worst week since the n B.
A bubble return.
He he has had the worst week.
So not only have the Clippers been a mess, which I predicted when the n b A playoffs started, that the Clippers aren't as good as they thought.
You know that everybody thought did take them seven games.
They did defeat the Dallas Mavericks.
Um, yeah, we knew Luca Don Church was dealing with a little bit of an ankle struggle.
Obviously, Porzingis was out.
And what does he do but step on Luca Don Churches ankle in one of the middle games of the series? Obviously, with the day and age of Twitter, this blows up.
They have cameras all throughout that Orlando bubble.
So this got picked up by every angle under the sun.
We had still images of this guy literally stepping on one of the brightest stars in the leagues.
Notably everybody knows that this kid was dealing with a bad ankle on this guy, blatantly steps on it bad look, we know that.
Then he goes to Twitter and he says It's never been that serious to me where I try to injure someone like that, like That's not what really Hooper's do.
He says something along the lines of that Doc Rivers After this, this is insane than the next game.
He fouls Luca don t it around the neck.
Obviously, it's the kind of stuff that you hear about what happens in the nineties.
Oh, in the nineties, that was just a regular everyday foul.
Sometimes it might not have even been called.
Okay, B s the guy got him around the neck.
It was a little much.
It definitely was unnecessary and excessive in every definition of the words.
So naturally gets a flagrant true, too, and gets tossed.
He's got that kind of track record.
Him and his brother, Bolt are both kind of bums, and I'm glad they're not on my team.
Doc Rivers almost was the small play of the week for backing him, and I know that's what you do.
Your back, your guys with the NBA's a fraternity man, and what that guy did was just dirty.
That was flat out dirty and Doc Rivers goes and he's talking in the halftime interview and he's like, Seems like the referees were going against us.
I don't know what's up with that.
My guy gets thrown out for having a hard follow around the basket.
I don't know what's going on with that.
I'll tell you what's going on with that.
You know, Doc, there's a dirty play and your guy was the small plate a week.
So congratulations to you, Marcus Morris.
You missed the mark this week.
My medium play of the week is Michael Jordan, and I was so angry about what happened today with the Cleveland Cavaliers and Michael Jordan.
If you missed it, the Jordan brand is kind of taking over some of the N b A statement jerseys.
So for the Cavs, it's the black jersey, you know, the one to commemorate the 2016 championship.
The Cavs say that the black uniforms are now part of the team's heritage, and they're going to support that team in that memorable game.
Seven till kingdom come hell, yeah, Go! Cavs Warriors blew a 31 lead And don't you forget it now they completely ruined it because Michael Jordan stupid Jump Man logo is on the collar.
And I'm going to preface this by saying this.
I'm not a Michael Jordan fan.
I He's not even my second greatest player of all time behind LeBron James.
So let's get that out there now.
I He was great. He was clutch.
He won a lot of rings.
I've heard it all, and I understand it all, and I appreciate it all.
He's a great player, and no one's.
I'm definitely not debating that.
What I am debating is he's not that great of a guy.
And he played in an era of N B A basketball where defensively the players were that good again.
All that footage is on YouTube, free of charge.
Anybody could go up there and watch it, but I personally hate the Jordan jump man on the lapel, particularly for the Cavs.
Now, whenever I sit down to watch my favorite basketball team, and for those of you that don't know me, I'm super passionate about the CAFS.
I know that they suck.
I could sit on here on this show every week and solely talk about the CAFS if I was allowed, and if that was entertaining, which I know it's not.
I could do it because I love the Cavs.
They're they're so exciting.
They were my first love, and no one can take that away from me.
So now when I sit down and watch my favorite team that I've loved since I was a little boy, I'm reminded off the off.
The guy that ruined my team is shot off having success before LeBron James.
You know, I have to be reminded of the shot.
Whenever I see that Michael Jordan logo on the Cavs jersey, I don't I don't understand that.
Like, I don't understand why I have to see the guy that sent my favorite team packing, as we do have some breaking news.
Ah, Jaguars Leonard Fournette is, in fact, signing with the Buccaneers.
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That's very relevant sports news, especially for my beloved fantasy owners out there to me.
I don't like it and Why are we going to stop there, Right? Why Stop with the jump, man Logo? The guy that hit the shot that sent my favorite team packin.
You know why? Stop there.
Are the Browns gonna run out in 11 days here wearing a John Elway patch on their jersey, huh? Are the Indians gonna gonna have a patch of the 95 Atlanta Braves pitching rotation? Are they gonna have a patch off? Ah, what's the guys name? Craig Counsell from the 97 World Series.
Hit the shot in the tent like Come on, guys.
The Jordan logo on a Cavs jersey That's disgusting Are the Raptors.
And 10 years seriously, are the tribal raptors in 10 years gonna have a LeBron James Lowe, the LJ with the Crown Mogo on their jersey? That's silly to me.
That silly he he tormented their franchise.
And thankfully for them, quite.
Leonard came to save him a short time later, but the Cavs weren't as lucky.
It's hooked years to redeem themselves from the shot.
It's even its own phrase that we hear about all the time, the drive, the fumble, the shot, the decision and we have to be reminded of that every time they were the black jerseys that are supposed to be so cool that are supposed to represent 2016 the best day of the city of Cleveland's collective sports lives.
It's angry to me.
It's it's kind of crazy, but I guess that's the world that we live with, and I don't understand.
Why not just go with the Nike swoosh? You know Jordan's kind of a subsidy of Nike anyways, so can't we just have the swoosh on there like it was last year? I thought Babel cool.
I thought, like you did a good job.
Evidently not good enough for the second or third greatest player of all time, all right, and that brings us to our big play of the week.
Hats off to you, Kirk Cousins, who is risking his life for the shield.
He appeared on a podcast this week, where he backed the NFL's decision and footballs decision.
Quite frankly, to return to play, he said, I want to respect what other people's concerns are.
If I get it, I'm gonna write it out.
Survival of the fittest kind of approach, you know, even if I die If I die, I die.
So it's even uncertain if there's gonna be fans in the stands.
Obviously, you know, we hear what they're doing with this advanced testing and the quickness with that with the abbot test that's being developed in Columbus, Ohio.
But man Kirk Cousins, you're willing to die.
You're willing to die for Roger Goodell, for the Shield, for the fans.
So follow that tow.
Follow the sport that we all love.
You're willing to put it all out there. You're willing to die.
And people were getting mad at him on social media like, Well, that's kind of a selfish doing to say that the guys willing to die of Corona virus well, if he has Corona virus, that means probably some of his teammates had Corona virus, and maybe they're not ready to die again.
Let's take it easy.
Let's not take everything so literal.
I don't think Kirk Cousins is going into this season expecting to die.
I think we're taking his quote a little bit out of context, and what he's trying to say is, is one of the biggest football guys of all time.
We talk about all that, you know we talk about it all the time.
He's he's a football guy.
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