No, off the record, we're joined by a special guest man.
Welcome to the show.
Former HBCU basketball player, Eh? NBA player Ronald Flip Murray Man was self let welcome to the show.
What's going on Further is up is that was up, man.
So one want to thank you for coming to the show and I want to start off just by asking you from the beginning, man, What was it like? You know, jumping from a HBCU and going to the N b A.
What was that process like for you, man? Was it more difficult because you went to show What was it like? Uh, honestly, yeah, it was tough a role for me because I wasn't getting much closures.
Demon guys getting so I had a really, like, making name for myself.
I went to a lot of camps after I left show University, where they had a guard table that I proved myself improved.
I belong there, and actually, distance several has success there.
When I was a little India can't predraft workout stuff like that, working out with a lot of guys that was supposed to be, you know, the top draft picks and lottery pick stuff like that.
So, um, it was cool.
I mean, I had to put that work in, but it was cool.
I had no problem doing that.
You You attended Strawberry mansion, man.
A well known schooling Philly man.
What was that like? That's why grow back.
So that's my neighborhood.
I mean, maybe play from neighborhood, another high school team and, you know, us to make some noise and be a powerhouse.
And I and I probably division was big Plus coming up, and I was 97.
I graduate class 97.
So, um, he started some.
Especially Charlie mentioned it started penance on the Met where the doctor came at the stand.
That and meted Ah, even more power hearts by winning the first championship when we left.
So I mean, it was prying.
It was having for us to play that are high school.
A, um you chose Shaw University and with the, you know, the wave of ah black students now that are starting to choose HBCU, especially black athletes.
Um, you know, four or five stars.
What? What made you choose Shaw, And what would you would you recommend that other black athletes out there who are looking to go to college.
Would you recommend it? They choose HBC use as well of me.
Personally, I had ah com season with, um a couple guys that actually went to my high school.
It asked its into Sharda University and it would let me know, like the history in the background of hbcu that I really didn't know too much about it first.
So I got down there, um but once I got down there and found out, you know, the historical history side of it and and all that need all this nature it was big from me for go playing an hbcu because all black school man, I had a chance to really go and then, like, trying to put them on the map, throw from makes a move.
Them being a sharp diversity never won.
They never want to see how w championship.
Before in the history we went down there, made that happen within two years, the coach that I had the same problems in these things that I couldn't deny, like he promised me that I was going to India.
He promised him that Let me just come out there.
Just listen to him and just do what? I gotta do it.
So So, um, that I honestly made my decision way more easier than anything.
What? Whether No, no other schools were like giving you giving you money, because you could You could clearly ball.
I had committed the Unites coming out of high school e thinking my test would I needed as a 20.
I took a test scores.
The last time I could take it in a year, and I got a seven names.
I didn't get the test score to go to the new man.
So I'm with Janey Coward for two years.
Junior college. For two years I came home.
My mom had got laid off my job, so I had stayed home.
Helped her arm into a community college here for the love for four year.
Some classes there, got some credit, just went on with short university, and they did two years there.
So So flip question physically.
Just like what? Are you going back to what you said your coach pretty much promise you certain things when it came to the NBA and going.
But when did you actually know physically that she was gifted to where you could actually take it that far? Um, I mean, I'm a always been thinking about the invention.
That was a little kid, you know, that was your dream was located.
Always Wanna go play an MBA? So I mean, that's all we was in my my thought process.
But me actually see it start coming through with brightly like my junior year.
Our first year starting diversity Black actually start having scouts come out the worst games, and I will start losing come up in the same year, Really kicked off.
Uh, I'm making that.
See, I mean, division to play of the year, and I really start seeing a lot of more styles.
And I started getting more context.
And then once I got to go over the engine, I gotta Egion.
And then I started received more, you know, advice to go different.
Being camp stuff like that.
Then I lose the chance that I had Ah, with strong 10 they had a possibly going making Yeah, who who and you know, just going back a little about, You know, I can I can look at I guess I could look at it and see it from that perspective.
Because you play ball.
I would like to school.
So I saw it from the aspect of the fan watching.
You know, you guys play ball much.
You guys bring the chip back to show.
Um, can you kind of go over a little bit? In a sense, off, I guess.
The ground in the process of what it took for you guys to actually make it to actually get to the c I a devil A and actually win the whole chipping and actually bring it back to show until you already know you seeing a hand for hand, way put work it.
You know, I was a pirate and the leader for that, you know, we we used to run all the up.
Um, what's that with that early thing was early finish bag.
I forgot the name of the little Jim used to go to the gardener.
It was like up the street from the school used to run that back of Forfar condition and needs to go toe Duke University of the Wilds waiting football stated run football stadiums around back.
You know, we've been working.
So our first year, when we were there, we went, Um, we're 15 10.
Nothing went, But I was. That was our first year.
What? We're all of us playing together.
Not really known each other.
So we had of getting a bite of first round of the tournament.
Will be in the losing the same.
So, you know, that didn't stick with me it all for, you know, sayonara, Zai Robert know that she you already vote? Yeah.
That should all for the summer.
And they have been back and forth, you know, they're going talk, creating.
So, you know, I think that summer after that first year we played that I stayed down.
I didn't even come home.
I see There, North Carolina just continue to work out.
I just worked out down there, please.
Somebody down there and everything.
So I try to get a little Quentin.
We'll rather four minutes on that second year.
When we came back, hold adding more pieces, got rid of some pieces that be I thought that we didn't need 19 more worth it for you.
He brought in some new players May actually.
What I think the players this down like art.
No, let me hand pick.
Really, who I wanted on the squad for so big pieces and pick up some big pieces that next year.
And honestly, we should have.
We should have one whole Division two tournament.
I believe we got cheated in the Final Four.
We made it to the Final Four.
We want to see a double tournament.
We want to start really in tournament, and we made it to the Final Four.
Um, played against the power house with two school.
Kentucky wasn't, you know, it is known for being a part off for years individual to play them 30 minutes away from where they school.
Was it 11 free, though.
Dishing 41 3, though about four I mean, they shoot 40 more free the who? We shot 11 and we got about four.
Good luck, Lourdes.
Every game was going on then it.
But I mean it is what it that's what politics came into itself.
I mean, but for us to bring that back to show a university man and then for the love that we got.
We got back home from that trip, man.
It was big for was Major for his mind.
It was a really good feeling for his mom. Yeah.
I hope you guys really understood the inspiration that you guys brought back to the campus, man, it really showed that.
You know, you can You can do anything that you want to.
Long as you're putting that working grind, you know, you can be successful, anything that you want.
And when you guys came back, you brought that.
You know, you rather about their chip back to Riley.
You know, it transcended in it, and it may ways all throughout.
When it when it came to sports.
When came to academics when he came to People want to be successful and just, you know, achieve their dreams, man.
So that that was a big what you guys brought.
I know you got maybe realized it, but I you know, actually speaking about it down the road 15 years later, you know, it's amazing what you guys brought.
Appreciate that, bro.
Plea should Yeah, so flip, I'm I'm I'm a fast forward.
So you you go from that you get drafted into the NBA.
Um, so you being a Philly guy? We eat.
So we all East Coast guys on here? We in the Baltimore area.
How was it? Like going from Philly to Milwaukee, man, like, 00 Well, yeah, You started Milwaukee, and then eventually Seattle.
Like, was it a culture shock for you, man? Was it slow? Was it 1st, 1st stories of other NBA players where they go from, what leads to another and they, like just one would be a minute.
So how is that I'm walking.
Definitely definitely store.
I was used to come from films, but that was a good thing for a broker that had kept me focused and kept me in the Jumper for our brother and had two million things go do out there.
Um, plus, it was cooled out there to does that.
He got a lot of like snow and stuff like that.
So, um, I was a rookie, though, that I mean, I have to give veterans or but me men, when I would be in Milwaukee that kept me in line for all For a heroin.
Johnson, who made sure that all of the keys, you know, stayed in line and stayed in place on what we get it doing stated, stated task and then release.
Let's get caught up on too much to dump stuff that was out there.
Um, with that being said we made our came in with, Like I said, Head Ervin Johnson, rest in peace, my man.
Anthony Mason Memo Old demon.
Uh, see half Eamon.
I had Sam Cassell, Ray Allen, and I had Ah, Kevin Aaliyah has ruled G. That was on my squad.
That really took me under their wings for a friend.
Try to show them the rules of the NBA's showing the path and how to work.
And you know how to stand the gym and and gettina work on your craft in game stuff like that.
So, um, it was shocking for me.
Could I end up getting treated a year? My rookie year, Man, that's what I went to. Seattle.
Pick that way from Milwaukee.
Seattle's in my city.
Seattle roommate sitting on them forever in Seattle.
It just rains too **** much rain.
34 straight days.
I was out there, man.
So that's the That's the only **** for having.
But Seattle was over all night.
Ah, beautiful water view out there, man.
Seattle was was okay, I have fun on Seattle for, but I did like 3.
5 years playing out there.
So, um, it was a little different from me, but it was something I was willing to justice.
That's what stops.
So when you when you first came to Seattle, Ray Allen got hurt.
You had to step in.
I mean, you immediately started killing, did you? Did you already know like, Oh, it's go time.
I already know what I'm about to do.
Or did you just go kind of go out there and fill your way out and things just happen to fall in place coming cities.
And I didn't know really with this, But like I said, I just got treated, Um, my rookie year.
So I really didn't play my rookie season.
There really was getting I mean, minutes really getting garb.
It's time for a fruit plus with them to see.
That was once a playoff, so I didn't know what to expect.
But coming into that season, I had a great Assembly, playing with Seattle on the West Boots when we had to play in the summer league.
So it was like 35 that summer, planning the summer league of Seattle.
So I knew that I had their attention, because when he was showing me love and some leading, it was really let me just go out there and just play basketball with it and handle leashes on a string.
So coming in Tennessee and I didn't know what to expect.
But when that call came through saying that Ray was won't be out for like the first whatever games we won't be off.
We see that you know that that that light went off, all right? I mean, you know, it's go time now.
You mean they got to play, They got to play you.
So I mean, I knew that from the gate coming in? No.
When I was going to that position, they got to play more minutes, and I could just go out and just play my game.
I had to worry about you know when when you plan coming off the bench and crushing when you're a young guy with some coaches, they have like a strangling you, like you make a mistake of somebody that they will take you out.
I mean, once I knew that he couldn't do that, I could just go out and just play my game.
I was going to be able to get some steaks hand and just playing my game.
It was a done deal. Was a rat.
So if you went from Seattle to Cleveland, man and you get, like, you had a really great career man, a lot of great years.
What was it like? Bone from Seattle to Cleveland.
And, of course, the LeBron had just come into the N B a couple of years prior.
So what was Cleveland like with him? You know, playing with him.
No school? No, my, my I felt this.
Don't mind my mind.
My career was coming to live with Seattle.
They wasn't really paying me like that, man.
So I went to the front door. I mean, to the front office.
Let him like, Listen, I understand that you are not playing mountains, understand? It's a business.
I'm actually I cannot give me somewhere where I can play.
So they talking agents? Uh, we're gonna come with a deal on trade to go to Cleveland playing with Brian and, you know, if a brown with the youngest being coming up, man, but to be the face of them best I'm like, All right, I said nothing.
I went over there, had a chance of going there, start from the gate layers used while, um, when I'm when they made that tree.
So I was able to go in and start from the jump.
And, you know, man, I went from planets.
He had never on TV to going to Cleveland.
Real TV every night.
Know, like it's another opportunity for me. Go ahead.
Really showcase my skills, Let people know that I can really get now. And I really ball.
So I mean, was I mean, LeBron was a young woman coming in was like their year.
Probably, I think was there year when I was a within their yearly.
So, you know, he was the next unbecoming started, then be a man and he was learning the game.
But he also had crazy talent, man.
And just to be out there, the court waiting and just the ball waiting my same time was a pretty thorough man.
No, I mean, uh, you played, I think go ahead.
Oh, I think you played eight.
I think you played eight years an n b a man.
I mean, that's a That's a **** long career.
A lot of dudes, as you already know, even if they're great players, they come in.
They might be going a year to later.
What did it take to stay in the league for eight seasons? Work is putting in the work moon and work stand stand, stand ready, standing shape, man, and just understanding the game.
And I always had a high i Q For the game. I understand.
And me being able to just adjust any type of system I was and I played in eight different teams, just eight different systems.
I had the Plan eight gives.
So me being able to adjust it just playing in different style, just knowing the game of basketball man's Kuhlmann.
Um, I don't take nothing from it, man.
I had a great eager and then be a man.
That's everybody basketball.
Dream that, please basketball.
So I mean, I took what I took what I got from that man.
Had a good time. Enjoyed it.
I got a question.
This is just off the record, right? How does it feel? The bus somebody's ass and scored to make it look easy.
I just got I got a question to that.
I just want to know.
And that's just I don't know, man actually came from young boy.
I was doing that.
I was young and I mean, now that Donald jacket **** like that.
But I was getting a always one thing they could say about Flip Murray about this bad boy.
I was always this quarter bar.
Okay, What level basketball was that? I was always able to score.
Boy, that was my gift.
I always scored a bar, and I didn't know pick and roll.
And then I was always able to get my own basket.
So, um, I always been able to score the basketball.
Man, that's been like my gift from the game, basketball man.
So that was always been, like, go to for me to go in school, bucket and get buckets.
So, you know, and I have never been a real big **** talking about my dad needed also.
I mean, unless somebody really got parking start Talking Creek, the book.
I mean, let's my they started talking stupid.
Then it's just gonna be on.
Yeah, it seems like he was always that silent assassin.
Like you always came up.
You know, he was confident.
You feel quite confident, like, you know, just like I said, he was going 32 on an average night, 27 on average night.
And, you know, you're making it look as if you're doing it quiet, and you're making it look as if like, you want to k e.
So, I mean, that just goes to show you, man, how you know how much work, you know, dedication you put into your craft.
You know, since she was young, you know, even to now, um I mean, I have seen some the tapes of the programming, you know.
Still light on your feet.
Over there. We got I love my game today. Menaces.
This might be one of the greatest need.
I mean, bus need is going on the city right now.
It's ah league Where all the high school team from the city bringing their love my players back and playing a, um, competitive 30 plus 30. Noble eat.
So it's all the guys need to play that with super tough.
Back in the day when I was young and playing in high school and they all come in Alumni League.
It's like 34 high schools and in their things, like 40 90 years.
So it's a really dope league, man.
It's competitive, man.
And you know, Philly is gonna be a lot of **** talking.
So everybody's online on the Web, talking crazy, and it's still competitive.
Could be still gonna have people in there.
So I mean, it's pretty dope.
Are you? Are you doing anything else? I mean, I know you're still playing.
You still killing it? Are you? Are you coaching or your training on your mentor in our coaching? That's what goes back. Strawberry mansion.
When a pandemic, it it really slow stuff.
Now I definitely offer the headquarters job over there.
I turned it down last year because I really didn't have the time and going, you know, put 100% into it.
So I told them I just had a door that you talk with the head off many jobs.
So I told him right now is not really good timing for me.
Me just having a new baby and me, you know, congratulated.
Also the wife and kids stuff.
So it was a good time from, but I was actually gonna come back this year and trying to apply for the job again.
But this pandemic it So I don't know what's gonna happen now when you see what they're gonna do now for Are they over sports backup for this year? Are they going to put it on hold on pause or whatever with this pandemic? So we're waiting to see so flip again, man, I'm me the fast forward and taking people back.
But I want to kind of piggyback off of what corn was saying like being a silent assassin.
And we was prepared for the show manner.
I started watching clips off.
You know, the rookie sop****re game.
Hey, e u was killing right and you have some heavy hitters in that game.
Braun mellow way.
It's a matter of fact.
In one point in that game is a clip of you touching bronze ankles up a little bit, right? Did you Did you go into that game with a chip, Will you showed it? Or was it just like I'm just I'm being me? Or was it like I'm going here? McKillop these dudes and and we on national TV in front of everybody.
So I'm a put on, put my name on the map, but was it just you just mean you That was just me being me man, that I think that is just going up paying like, Philly basketball pic of gay.
I look at all star games pick up games for so me being a just god, they're just freelance to just play basketball.
Said call and go play called.
Not like they just got their free let you know.
I grew up on that playing in the streets of Philly.
So I take it his dad streetball game, me going out there playing.
I really didn't handle chipping in them, but not like that.
It wasn't nothing personal.
Just meet one of them playing ball throw for us.
And I didn't look at it as a chip on my show.
With anything like that, I would just make one out. Just this freestyle.
Just having fun playing basketball, You know he was coming in? Yeah, he was killed without when I can.
Then when I got that read, when I came down on that bridge and I see him in front of, you know, I had went off my stuff in a crossing.
I gotta hitting with some ****, right? 14 or anything You're gonna go for like that.
We know that you I got hit with some **** right at me and see if I give my one know how it off on the King Room. Good.
25 25 10 with 10 assists was the stat line.
Do you still think you can ball in the n B A man Right then on my body not built for right now in and best what she'd written And Pete Leak? I can if I was really just continue go work out.
But I bet there's a couple of years I suffered a fractured head.
Um that really, really said Nestle really, really set me back for a Frohman When I fresh the head.
That that put me out for like, a good 10 to 11 months, man.
Where do I can't get busy and take away all my most prefer.
So it took me a while to get back to, like, 100 Massoni.
Still don't think.
Is that 100% for for probably like it 85 90%.
I don't think it always getting back to where the work before.
So that fracture It was a major injury for me, man.
Everything 18 my process and the way I was going moving.
And yet, Yeah, one question I got So the career that you had throughout the MBA at what was going overseas as well as being one of known as one of the top five streetball, is in Philadelphia Does that bring overall comfort to your basketball career and how you started to wait where you you came now, a za grown man and the professional.
You know, that's the level that you played.
And we've got to this farce even the successive did you that you required.
I mean, if it waas mean they stop it right now.
I mean, I'm still trying to like building my legacy, still playing with this and then trying to see what I could do with this coaching.
But if it was the end right now, I'm cool.
What were what I accomplished what I did for basketball, man.
Me coming from North Philly, Um, making our way to the n b a man.
And, you know, I took the back road against them being taking the easy route.
Division 19 was handed to me.
I had to go out there and work for everything I got.
So, you know, me knowing that.
Know what I went through to get there and make that happen.
And then for me to know that the, um, many people that are inspired from Philadelphia to be able to go on the same page, you know, asked me people come up from, like, flip manning them.
I just want to say thank you, man.
You know, um, you make it to then be Manu inspiring me, man, to go in a gym where you know, I'm a young boys stuffed to come up to me and say that to myself.
When I get feedback like that back from from kids, start from Philly, You know, that makes me think, and that's you know what I did with some special and I'm appreciative of man Philip, I gotta ask you, man, I'm sure you're seeing everything that's going on with the N b a.
That Corona virus impacted the entire world.
But then be a was able to get get these games back up and get the playoffs in Orlando, a lot of people expect MBA players to stand up for the black community.
Um, and just out of the day, the bucks, the Lakers, a number of other teams, they opted not to play for a couple days.
But now they pressure then NBA owners to open up the arenas for voting and all that kind of stuff.
Um, how much power do these players have in terms of pushing social justice forward? They're all the power, man, the autocrat We live in a crazy world writing that was going on that society.
Um, thing that we seem happy right now for us, you know, with killings with cop killing stuff.
My day is really outrageous.
I'm glad and happy that they found spit up and take a stand and try to force some impact.
Didn't make to go out to go out and say something. Make something happen.
Um, as you can see and only take one team or on one strong person and make it happen.
Captain, it started off happiness, not off.
You just get backed up by his teammates like everybody get back about a team is right now actually, be this teammates that from hanging.
Let me let me ask you just flip cause I'm always carries about this man.
So right now, the league is losing money because of the Corona virus, and the MBA owners can lock the players out next year if they want to or not.
And they certainly can't the players aside to protest or not play players like LeBron.
I mean, there is only one LeBron, but the guys at the very top of the financial pyramid in India.
If LeBron never plays another basketball game after today, he set for the rest of his life like these kids and everybody else after him.
How difficult is it for those guys were or from HBC use? Those guys were fighting to get into the MBA to say, You know what? We're not gonna play.
And if the owners up to cancel our contract or whatever.
Like how? How hard is that for the for these other guys who don't have hundreds of millions of dollars, you know? But there at the, you know, the lower financial, um, food chain of them via difficult, you know, prayer, for one thing.
When you first come into the NBA, they teach you that geek.
They have classes and everything about the business.
An MBA faras how to be in financial situated coming into the league as a young player and different avenues and different routes.
You can take four hours financially, not just from MBA, but elsewhere.
So if you take advantage of that and those opportunities that they give you the learning business in India and have different revenues coming in with different avenues where you can go make money, you'll be fine.
The guy that don't I mean, they suffer from it, but it's all of them because they definitely get opportunity.
Prepare for in case a situation like this do happen.
You say that they pay for Just say that all of sudden you just get hurt and you can't play basketball anymore.
Then what you gonna do now.
So they prepare you for that.
Where, though you can have like, um, like I said, different avenues to go on, make money and do different things.
So But right now I understand what you're saying with guys, but is bigger than that is bigger than money right now.
They should is bigger than money.
This is about, you know, our lives, my livelihood, stuff like that.
And they just taking advantage of a man than just taking innocent lives away and for the stand up for that and try to get some justice to that.
I mean, that's over.
That's over. Money for me, for sure.
I appreciate that.
I'm gonna let everybody else go around.
If anybody else has any more questions for flip, I'm sure you all do.
So I have more questions for I do.
But we're at a waiting there because, you know, um, is I got that man has been on a man speaking What? You flip everything that you you know, it's accepted.
You you brought to out of sedation to use to people around you to people, you know, looking.
You notice you kids, man, I said, Man, you keep doing what you're doing, brother.
And thank you for everything in my support to you.
Um, I just, you know, in my piece off by just asking, Flip.
You know, seeing you came from, you know, strawberry mansion to Meridian.
Like you said, you had to work for everything you had.
Is there anything, Any message that you have out there to, um, other other young brothers out there, young sisters out there who are on a similar path to you? Is there anything that any message that you have for them? The same was always, say, my routine and pursue your dreams, man.
It is a good thing and pursue it, man.
Whatever the route is, you might have teeth.
Uh, what is the hard around the longer route? I mean, if there's something that you really, really want to do, something that you really, really love just continue to pursue it, man, and try to do whatever it needs to be done to make it and make that happen.
Um, that's is like, Well, my situation was Moon like I said, me leaving for the left.
Yeah, when all we have to Mississippi to go play junior coward by myself.
When idea? Yeah.
I mean, just to try to make some happen for me for my career than my education man, and then discontinued pushing for me, coming back and going ashore. University.
Then they have a chance to really be in the NBA draft.
Making baby didn't make that happen, man.
I mean, I was a blessing for me, man.
Something I would truly, um, remember something that would truly take me when I'm when I'm out of here, I'm going.
So whatever your dream is, man, just pursue it, man.
To continue to push our work, I'm gonna get you out of here on this floor first.
I want to say, man, we appreciate you, of course, taking that to sit down and talk with us.
Um, you know, like, wants a your inspiration.
You wanted the people that I feel is making the easier for these kids to make that decision to go to the HBC years and use that as a route in order.
They can still get to the N b A.
So always keep that under your hat.
You're one of the pioneers for that.
But I want I got one last question to get you out of here.
You got a game today, man? What you doing? What you dropping last last season? The team that playing date as he eliminated the Limited.
That's one playoff last year.
I think this game will be row personal.
And they created on the social media stuff like that.
Let's just let me know that it really scared talking too much.
And so, you know, this game is personal, so I'm on my way.
I got to go out there and get a quarter.
I think the person he was person and I'm no t out there now.
I'm by the window displays out there, so it's still personal.
I feel bad for the ankles, your flip, man, much respect.
We will really appreciate you coming, all man.
And I hope you have a great game today.
I think I have me, bro.
Seriously, mind you. Take it easy.
You took fellas.
That was a That was a heck of an interview, man.
I appreciate Flip coming on, man.
And speaking to us.
Um, that shock connection between you and the army that happened.
So I appreciate, like you said like that when you talk about guys who win street, you know, when I straight to the NBA from high school, But guys who went to HBC use I mean, any time you talk about that, flip flips name come up.
If you know basketball, a flip name come up.
So I'm very appreciative and happy he came on with us today.
You too, as well.
Seen it from the aspect of our student.
Um, you know, pretty much trying to find my way.
Like I said, inspiration comes in many ways many shapes, many forms, many fashions, and, you know, to bed witness to something of that at a young age to now and to see a manifest just amazing in the show.
And it does show that you you know, whether you come from if you have a goal and you have a dream, you know, you just gotta work hard, you know, despite the you know, some of the pitfalls. Whatever.
You just you know, keep pushing.
Don't let anybody dictate who you are.
You know where you wanna go now? Eso he said something that's gonna lead us into our next conversation, man.
He he said, Pursue your dreams like what they are going Go for, man.
And so I know we checked.
We decided to have a conversation about Chadwick Boseman rest in peace.
Chadwick died unexpectedly, at least for the rest of us who didn't know he was sick.
Died at at 43 to colon cancer.
He was diagnosed at 39 men and Chadwick Dude got He's got some iconic roles I thought he had next, Like people talk about like Denzel when folks like that Chadwick was it, you know, from Thurgood the Black Panther is Jackie Robinson to James Brown? I mean, like, he was it, man.
So 2020 minute roller coaster.
And to hear you know, another brothers as passed away, even though this is not at the hand of police or anything like that, but just another brother who seem to be a good do going certainly at 43 role in our late thirties like that's crazy.
So I want to give everybody an opportunity to speak their piece man on Chadwick.
Well, I Look ya heard me said when we did the episode with diapers and haircuts and we Let's start our top five black figures.
The first person I knew was hey, Chadwick Boseman to Charla.
I mean, that was I mean, and not just that role, but all the rosy like he played like I saw a post earlier saying like he was given are black heroes.
He was given their flowers.
He was giving him their flowers while he was here.
Um and, uh, I mean it.
It it it hit me hard to the plate what? You know, and she caught me off guard Man 43.
That's that's young, That is young.
All men go to the doctor, that was Look, I need to schedule Monday's doctor's appointment cause I'm ready to get my, uh, uh, colonoscopy or whatever.
I'm man that that, um that it hard man, he was far as, like, a an actor.
Or, you know, that was like that was like one of my heroes, as far celebrities are concerned, So I'm sad to see him going room.
Um, from year Man is, uh, it's unexpected.
You don't know what to say.
Such a prominent figure and black man at the same time.
Like you said, Brandon.
Nothing in a sense.
Off justice, nothing.
No police brutality was something in the sense off, you know, being sick, terminally ill colon cancer.
It's just that was a very touchy subject.
Um, but someone that has brought for much, you know, to our our culture, his father movies as far as powers, faras perseverance.
As far as thinking, in a sense, I've been rag reality of being a superhero, I guess, and maybe transcending your minds and being something else out of that, it's a major blow.
It's a major blow.
You don't you know, for the adult, for the kids, you know, it is, you know, you don't really know what to say about it, you know, at the same time.
Just like you said, Aziz men, black men.
But this is we have to set up our doc schedules.
And yes, the shark didn't start getting checked.
Barely physically, you know, means everything because 43 as young.
Yeah, you know, um, from the movie aspect, I will be honest.
I don't I don't know if they can go forward with the Black Panther two or Black Panther three.
I was that I was taking the same name.
So, you know, I'm a big comic book person, man.
They'll probably they'll probably chill on it like I mean, it's already been pushed back because of all this stuff.
It wasn't supposed to mount the 2020 22 I believe, maybe 23 deal, they're going to go forward.
They're just gonna figure out the right way.
Like Chadwick is an iconic actor.
The character is an iconic black superhero.
So wipe out that particular superhero I got.
They have to go forward.
They just got to find the right way to do it.
And I don't know what the right.
Well, I do have an idea, actually, Mom, but the marvel doesn't really good job of, like paying tribute to people, so they'll figure it out.
So, I mean, first of all, what I want to say is the piggyback off of what you guys are saying, you know, 43 as young, but he's been dealing with this for four years.
So you're looking at 39 then this first came on for him.
So, um, so it is young, you know? But it's even younger than what We initially bank it because of his age, the age where he passed.
Um, but I will say this.
It's a tough blow Anytime you lose somebody like that, Um, the way you lose them.
Um, well, I mean, the way he was lost on his age.
Um, things like 2020.
Just been on some ****, man.
Losing Kobe and then losing him.
Um, this is crazy.
It's just been a while year.
Um, but you know what? What's even what I was thinking about to myself in me and Dani kind of shared the scene thoughts at the same time.
We kind of, like sent them to each other at the same time.
Like this is like he gave a lot of our young black boys hope, but you know what I mean? Like, this was this was this is a his character in black Panter was is like the first superhero for a lot of our Children.
So this might be it is not just affecting us.
This might be the first recognizable person that they've No, that a law that that's not here no more.
You know, I'm saying, like, you know, You know how they hit us when, like, Biggie die? Yeah.
I mean, like, you know, that was somebody that was recognisable to us, things like that.
This I mean, we were a little older than but I'm saying like this this is going hit Children, too.
Um, and Donny was saying, you know people, Mommy mentioning that he didn't know if he won't tell his boys, You know, I mean, because, you know, they looked up to black pant. I know.
I remember just this last Halloween and we went trick or treating together.
Enjoying was like a mash up of, like, Black Panther.
And so it's something some other character, but you know what I mean? Like they you know, he you know, they just really looked up to that character man.
He gave a lot of our young black boys hope to be superheroes because obviously as a kid like you, looking that you look up to any superhero.
Well, here's one that looks like you.
So even it was just something for them to gravitate to.
So it sucks from that aspect.
You know, um, that it's I don't know, man.
It's just terrible, man.
But I do want to, uh and you know, I hate the phrase, but I didn't want to give him his flowers, and I want to give him his due.
This man was dealing with this.
Still working? It's still working.
Yes, it's still putting these movies on.
It's still filming, Ah, Black Panther.
And in all these other movies he was in, Um, so, man, that's commendable.
And I seen I seen the interview today.
I think it was Ah, I think it might have been with Sway.
And he was talking about two Children that he met while he was filming.
Ah, the movie who had cancer.
And he was talking about how those to the two kids were telling him that they were hanging on until the movie was finished, cause they want to see it and seeing him talk about that right, no one knew that he was dealing with what he was dealing with was seeing them talk about that and knowing you know what he had to be in.
Obviously, he knew it was going on with themselves.
It was just like, **** like, Oh, he really kind of, you know, you kind of look at it different, like he was he he was doing it for, you know, he took himself out of the situation, right? He was doing it for us.
Really? Because he knew that black people, we needed this movie.
Um, So he said he even that motivated him even more to go to work every day to work hard because he has two Children dealing with cancer and dying from cancer.
That said, man, we fighting the live because we want to see this movie. That's your door.
So it's, ah, horrible loss for us, man.
And like, I don't know about charm.
And I know people say I mean, you just you just Russian time along.
People wanna rush time alone.
That just ages you.
I'm tired of 2020 bro.
I'm tired of it, bro.
It's just some ****.
Then you know we lost Cliff Cliff Cliff Robertson this morning.
I just saw that it's like day.
Yeah, so, yeah, man, it zits of loss for our community, for sure, it's it's wild man like you when you think about actors who have played iconic black heroes.
Jamie Foxx play Ray, you know, well played Ali like Denzel played Malcolm X.
Obviously, like normally, these guys get like 11 iconic role, Chad head like they're good Jackie Robinson e mean, uh, Brown like the flight.
And then he took Black Panther, and I need to explain the context of what Black Panther means to I'm 38 years old.
I'll be 39 next week, and I love comic books till now.
I need people to really understand, because there are a lot of people that, like that, what kind of everything is weak and like, what kind is not a real place, but like Look, man, let me explain the proper contact with what Black Panther means to a lot of people, particularly Children.
One to see the first blow back.
He's not the first black superhero, but to see the first black superhero on the big screen, its iconic right.
Not only that man, like the dude have more money than Iron Man.
He was just a smart was the ruler of a nation that were more powerful than the United States.
His sister was a genius.
He was guarded by the most fiercest black women on the planet.
Like for a young kid to see that.
See that, you know, See what it looks like them be.
That powerful is iconic, man.
So Chad brought that that role to light also to just to piggyback on that you It was also know he came from the genetic, you know, the genetic tree.
You know his father was a king, You know what I mean is over.
If his mother, you know she was a queen, you know, saying his brother was his uncle's a part of royalty.
So he also showed the lineage, you know, and also the black lineage.
So you know where we come from From a historical standpoint as well.
Look, I don't ever said use you guys, but I've said this other people.
What condos? What africa would be if they didn't rob after of its people.
And its resource is that's what what kind it is if your pants and come in and take out our ancestors of Europeans and come in and take out the gold in the diamonds That's what the after would look like.
We conduct literally the center of the earth.
Um, but it's sad to see him go, man.
You know, typically, you don't get your colon checked into your 45.
Somehow, some way he opted to, I guess, get it Looked at early and found out he had Stage three went in.
You know, when it comes to cancer, stage three is I mean, you find out you got it in stage three.
That that's already That's already close toe.
You know, you could be you could be gone.
But he fought and he fought.
Put out iconic road man.
So much are respected.
I can only imagine what his family is going through It Thank God that he was able to pass away with that, um, around him.
You know, I'm saying, but 2020 been wild man.
2020 has been a wild year.
So I guess we'll wrap it up on that in the show.
Got something else.
That and then I was dog.
Well, one thing I do want to say I want to kind of go back to what Mike said Getting the roses two people while they were here.
You know, he actually gave ah tribute to Denzel Washington.
Um, because Denzel Washington actually assisted with paying his tuition.
I want you guys remember back with Denzel Washington was, Well, he was actually one of the actually wanted kids.
They actually see the tuition? No.
So, you know, he gave there's there, watching the shot out.
You know what he's like.
You know, if it wasn't for you, it would be no black dancer, you know, we were, you know, not only one after him, but from the aspect of all the cast, you know, that put into Black Panther, you know, because they were, you know, they with the with the guys before.
You don't think that came before and you know that they had to pretty much fight.
You know what I'm saying? And preserve what we had, you know saying is black people and, you know, it's for black sentiment.
Um, So again, just like I say, man, just just want to, you know, get tribute to him and, you know, get my condolences to his family.
No shot some light on what great things he brought to the world and you know, for people.
Yeah, well said, man going my Yeah, I think just after what you say, Alex, with the people that said, What Congas corn is Corning because it's not really? Listen, I think that's the problem.
Sometimes without people is we strip Ah, we stripped away from us.
You know, we stripped ability to to to dream too, you know, living that you know that living at their fairy tale life for many Oh, it's it's okay.
Like e I know leaving movie.
I felt like what kind? It was real No one that it wasn't.
But I just felt like it was just something that, you know, I was able to let myself go for minute and and being that make you know, that make what we make make I believe life.
So I mean that that's testes, you know? But like you said, man, he played he was gonna be Black Panther, no matter whatever role he did.
From that point on, it was one of those iconic, iconic Rose that you know when you play one person or play one role, no matter what you Yeah, that's who you are with a C.
So That's what he was gonna be in hell.
Forever be remembered as that.
Um, so, yeah, man, this is rough.
But, you know, I do want to close out and and say, you know, rest in peace of him.
Rest in peace of Cliff Robinson.
Uh, shout out to cross over media for putting this on a sponsor in this.
Um, yeah, man, Take care.
You help many black men.
We got to get on that.
We'll close on that man you've been listening to off the record.