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Welcome to another episode of different basketball podcast.
My name is Jordan amount.
Today I'm joined by Jamal McCoy for the Raleigh Firebirds.
Jamal, man, welcome to the show.
How you doing? How you doing? Good morning.
I don't think I've seen a beard yet.
That's top mind.
But do you? I think you may.
I think you may have it.
Who's your bottom as she just growing back? It just grew out.
I kept cutting it. I was confused.
I was cutting it.
Let me grow. Cutting growth.
How How long did it take to grow? That a man? Private, Like a couple weeks for me.
Like a wolf, Matt. Same way.
So, Jamal, for the listers that don't know you were from you from Chicago.
Talk a little bit about your high school experience and the head coach that you played for in Chicago and And how Alexander that is eso I went to the South Shore High School in Chicago of East Side of Chicago.
Um, freshman year.
They're actually got serious with basketball around my freshman year.
High school on people.
You know, We got a coach named Mike.
He came over from Marshall High School.
A lot of people notice where Patrick Gravity play high school basketball.
So after Patrick Beverley seeing a year, my Bryant came over the South Shore was with my sop****re year.
Who's the dope experience, man? Um, he was very hard.
I mean, very hard.
A lot of us, all of us.
Really? Um, but he d make sure, you know, he encouraged me to stop streets, stayed on me about getting the class, staying on me about, you know, working on my game.
He just It was just adult experiments, man.
He was a very hard nose coach.
Ran all day for sure.
Uh, and it was just different, man.
Chicago basketball is just hard nosed tough.
So, uh, having a coach that you know prides itself will be here.
Are those team you really still something in me that lasted throughout my whole career is why face so hard nose now, do you? Do you still have a relationship with him now? Do you still talk to him today? I haven't talked to Coach Brian Man in the while.
It's been a while.
We kind of lost touch a little bit.
I moved Teoh Lamb my middle of my junior year.
So I played my last season of high school ball at fourth part and Forest Park, Georgia, a claim county school.
So we kind of lost touch during the and saying I'm a couple times.
When I came home, I was spoke so much.
So okay, now let's let's fast forward a little bit.
Let's go all the way to your senior year in college.
So you play junior college.
Ah, you ended up.
What was the school that you ended up at again? Bluefield State, West Virginia.
How was that experience? Like so your senior you're trying to play? You want to play pro? Um, you finish out, you know? What are you doing? And how do you end up in in the n a.
P B or T B o eso? Actually, my first year out, right after the seas.
And I'm getting ready for a showcase in Vegas.
I broke my fifth metatarsal, so I was actually out for about six weeks, man.
So right after my senior season, it wasn't too good for me.
But that probably was my bright spot because actually taught me a lot.
I had a chance to actually sit down and reflect study every game or actually become a little more intelligent with it.
Um, it didn't just made me appreciate the gang.
More appreciate little things.
The ground morning.
Being able to get up, walk, go for a job.
So they definitely made me appreciate things like that.
Mawr, Uh, the journey after going pro was very tough.
Of course you're coming out of a small school.
Then I wasn't averaging the crazy numbers, so of course I had for me, it was more like men show up so out.
Get on these people. Radar.
Ah, showcase everything I got because me send in Fillmore.
Descending numbers wasn't good enough to really catch your eye right up was not that I popping this.
Now I like the feeling was just all LeBron James Kobe dunks and fadeaway.
So right, so You know, for me, it was more about getting the front of the right people and, you know, just believing in what I can offer.
Believe what I could do.
You know, I paid off for my first year in a PB.
I got to calm down and got invited.
The Chinese camp.
Um uh, Ohio Cardinals.
My Parini combi.
Now, uh, thank you for help.
My first pro opportunity.
Call me down, man.
I was actually the captain of the team, which was crazy because I didn't even play a game.
But I was just so knocked in, man.
I was just so focused and I was driven, actually Reach, you know, the next level in the keep, you know, writing our game.
And that's what I like to see about this lead.
Because every year I've seen myself growth and yeah, I got two things.
So first I broke my fifth minutes, ****nal, like when I was, like a freshman.
So I understand the Yeah, that is the worst.
Ah, then you're, like, kind of tiptoeing around.
Oh, I don't know if I could do this for that.
You know, I think it's profound you to kind of say I I was out for about about eight months with a knee surgery my second year of college.
So, you know, you kind of you can understand and appreciate the game a little bit more like today.
It's, I think, it's great that I can you know, I can go out and still play And, um, you know, just like you, you know, you definitely appreciate the game a lot more.
And the second thing that I had is for the listeners.
for me and Jamal.
So it's ah, is a really, really early riel, really early.
So, you know, it's ah, the A P B.
When it translated to the TVL, talk about that translation that was It was rebranding, you know.
But for a player, what would you think? Ok, is this now? Is this a new league? Is this Ah, you know what you thinking? Um, for me, I'm not gonna kind of kind of like that.
I kind of caught me a little more, and I felt like the league was growing.
I actually like the TBL three letter acronym on this.
That's a lot better, huh? But I just I just felt the lead going in the right direction.
I just felt like it was growing.
I heard a lot more guys talking about it was getting a lot more books, and I just think, you know, I just think it's been going like smooth.
Um, but they were definitely the idea to change it from a four letter to three letter acronym was Definitely, um e j.
If you think about all the major sports in America, you got MBA in the Fail, you know? So no MLB TV.
L fits right in with.
So let's talk a little bit about Rollie.
Um, you know, you've been there for two years, you know? How do you like the city? How do you like the you know, Have you settled in? Are you part of the community? You know how? How's that looking outside of basketball? What's life like for you in Raleigh? It's nice, man.
It's a very beautiful place.
It's a good mixture between urban and a rule war.
Um, I got my son out here now.
Brought my son down So he's actually been here with me for the song where he enjoys that he wants to move here from that.
And it's always that's awesome.
Make kids happy, man.
Right? Give negation community don't have done a few activities Mentoring kids, um, courses in camp.
Speaking with some kids.
I trained that some kids here in there, uh, building this brand man and just showing these kids with no matter what, even with limited resource is if you want something you could have it just got really go attack your dreams.
Eso me and my all time in is, you know, basically out Brandon Vents or in and just keep it.
You know, just just keeping a good eye on these kids, man, and sharing all the knowledge I could possibly share.
Where does that? Where does that come from? Where does that joy of mentor and come from where you meant toward as a kid and you and you're like, OK, I want to do this or or were you, um like, OK, maybe when I when I get older, I can I could show these kids where all the potholes are and help them out in that regard.
Where does that come from? Um, actually has come from having limited condemned growing up.
I want to give a big shout out to June remaining brand South Shell United Methodist Church.
And that was our basketball team.
Played a lot of my friends from the side of Chicago.
A lot of us from that area will go and play basketball there for the church.
He started up a team.
It started off with us breaking in to the church, sneaking in jump, and then they called.
It was like, Yo, we got some kids that he breaking in.
You know, you can you come up and, you know, watching that we open the jump for a couple days.
So I went from that to ask, having the team just really having something to look forward to on those dating.
So I haven't kept us out of trouble.
Um, so that right there, you know, show me just woke me up toe.
How something so small from being in the gym, you know, to our was a day three days out the week opposed to being outside on the streets can change your life.
So for me, It was just more about what me and my friends didn't have danced.
And some of the old small example.
You know, like what John Deere Ford was amazing.
Um, Coach Carter used to do little things.
You know, discipline is to talk to us cause Brian D.
So it's just, you know, a lot of us grew up without fathers and father figures.
So it's just limited resource is and something that motivated me to do that actually experiencing growing up in poverty.
Witness and kids grow up in poverty.
Just watching the new Whose man? So, you know, I'm I'm easily influenced by that.
Just looking and Children's.
I see you know they're hurt or lack of knowledge.
So that's what influences me, man, for sure.
I think that, you know, a lot of a lot of athletes, you know, come from from a lower middle class, you know, like, you know, like most of us do.
And and you know, you doing that and using your platform as a professional athlete to help these kids is amazing cause we're talking the other day last week in a we're in a business meeting, and, um, you know, we're telling this Perfect.
You know, prospect of team.
Like, Listen, kids really don't know the difference between an MBA player and a guy that's playing professional.
There were all about the about the same height, you know? You know, you got you got you know, I mean, so you know, if you can pour into them, they're like, Oh, that's the greatest thing in the world.
You know what I mean? Because you're getting that attention.
That one on one and and maybe even, you know, 10 on one, whatever it may be or one on 10 like, you know, you're still pouring into those kids.
So, you know, I want to talk a little bit about your brain that you were telling me about last night.
Ah, you know, tell us what it is, You know, Let's let's give a quick, you know, 23 minutes as synopsis over it, and and you kind of tell the listeners what you're doing.
So it's a dowdy overachievers.
It's about exceed expectations and achieving goals from cir***stances and situations.
We've been here thistles.
One of my first shirts, actually.
Oh, I got the good plug on her right now.
do you see? It is just the prototype just playing around with it.
But as you can see, that's my face there with doubt it process it.
And I do have a brand of these dropping Some would say Dalits, I'll say overachiever dude at a Chicago addition.
But my brand man is really for, you know, for people to look at and feel, you know, I want people to get the feel, a sense of urgency that you can accomplish You can achieve whatever it is that you want to, regardless of your limited resource is, you know, like the rose that grew from concrete, you know, it really was motivated by two.
You see a Rose Byrne a concrete.
You gotta marvel that just like how amazing it is that why was roles run out of concrete? You're not gonna run me about the patterns and how it looks.
So how is lean and cricket? You're going to be more like shocked, unlike winds were on the concrete.
So why, when you see a ghetto child poverty stricken child come from F or a terrible situation, all we can talk about is the negatives on the kid.
Instead, of saying Wow made around this.
He did that. Now this.
How do we fix this? How do we change this? How did you get him to see things like this instead of judging him off the waves came from He knows nothing else.
If are you grew up? Uh, you know, it was on survival war in the poverty stricken area.
And are you're seeing this violence and negative things, then growing up, that's gonna be instilling unless you still love and positivity.
And so I think that's something we should do more off instead of looking at.
These kids are looking at these, you know, teenagers or young adults.
It's poverty stricken thugs.
Or get little kids and maybe get him a little knowledge, a little love, a little positivity and, man, they can be a bunch of roses that grow from concrete.
So that's my That's my biggest day.
Doubted Overachievers shot.
I think it's free money free money will stand.
He actually meant for me.
That's the big answer for me.
Eso shots out to him.
I think that's great.
And I you know, I told you last night when we were talking on the phone You know, as soon as we started talking about the brand, you could hear a change in your voice and just how passionate you are about the brand.
And I really appreciate you're scaring.
And you know what? We'll plug that up for the listeners.
You know, TBL players are doing big things, and people got to know that you know, so easily grows, you know, players air growing and and, you know, maybe one day players that really league and you know, then they get contracts elsewhere.
And that's kind of what the goal is.
So you talk about a little bit plan and, you know, you play for the Rally Firebirds that you got the opportunity to play in Africa.
You talk a little about that opportunity after, How is that? You know, you spent two months, There will be the player experience, like compared to tvland.
And you know how great of experience it was.
I was definitely a great spirits.
Um, the rafts are pretty similar to the national and both both now the tbl rest.
We're a little better Africa over there, man, The game was very physical.
Those guys are some outstanding shape him and got very physical.
Um, as far as you know, learning the game of basketball skill over there, we don't move a little faster.
We do move the faster here.
But their man love for the game.
The passion was just so amazing.
Uh, you know, we got there.
Like, people always tell us how you get overseas.
You're gonna be demanding.
Will be, man, they love you.
But it's one thing to hear about it.
And then is one thing to fill it.
And my biggest staying over there, man.
Kids just running up to me and just very excited.
Ask me for autographs.
You know, Jemaah, we love you.
You're the man of God, Bond.
You know, like just little things like that really touched me knowing that I'm a young child, a young rose from Chicago, And I'm really motivating kids and ask, you know, you know, you would have asked me that when I was 11.
Yo, Ma, you want the Africa one day motivating kids? Me? No.
Think so? You know, I think that was the biggest thing from the man that I took from it.
I'm just learning a little bit about their culture, but really just touching those kids.
Man, those kids actually still message me till this day.
I get messages fall, lose calm.
Banks are still you know, I'm still in touch with those kids.
So it was amazing.
The food was wonderful.
Teammates over there were wonderful.
Everything was wonderful about That's awesome.
You know, I have a body that played plays in Japan, and he's like the LeBron of Japan so incredible, like, you know, you show up and, um, you know, you could only have two Americans per team normally.
Yeah, one or two.
And then once you're, you know, in the near, it's it's on.
It's an incredible experience.
Um, you know, real quick.
Let's talk a little bit about ah TV.
Are you Are you Are you planning on playing and tbl this next season? Um, I really wanna broke it off from overseas days right now.
I'm waiting to see what happens with this.
Then Of course I'm gonna play it it for sure.
Yeah, but the way it is looking right now, we may be over the waters.
That something to stay toned for okay.
Get a fans too much on interview right now.
You got watch at a simmer? Exactly.
I worked out for a few teams over the summer, so we're waiting to have *** happens, got a couple things and works.
So, man, you know, helping back up and I'm home.
Course I'm playing.
Um, so, I mean, I just see, you know, that strips up to God on God.
God controls it.
He knows what's best.
So I definitely would definitely would be excited, though.
It started back up, man, I'm here is rolling.
You got finished.
Well, let's you know, that's what TVO is all about, man.
We're all you know Here. Give opportunities of players.
And if you could go over season, go get a bag, then let's do it right.
Well, this is this is my favorite part of the show.
I don't know if you've seen into the podcast, but, ah, is the listeners favorite part of the show as well? So it's a speed round, You know, I'll set the timer for one minute.
You gotta answer as many questions as possible, you know? Yeah. Yeah.
The last person got seven.
I think the highest is 13 or 14.
Ah, Chris Allison from he's the T m O of of the Owensboro thoroughbreds.
And then any express.
Yeah, well, you know when all the major did a pretty good job, too? I don't know if you know we're in, although it's Yeah, it's us Midwest.
Guys, man, we gotta stick together.
That's what are about you.
Ready? Let's do it.
What's your favorite place to eat? Favorite part of TVL travel.
What is your favorite food? Was your favorite place to visit? Who's your favorite singer? Leo.
Who's your favorite? Well, what's your favorite movie? Uh, what is your favorite book? What is your favorite fruit star? Biggs Favorite candy bar Favorite Animal ******s.
What is your favorite thing to order at a fast food place? Sure.
What's your favorite dessert? Get three.
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Going great for 8 24 AM That's not bad.
Is not being all right here as great Well, your mom, and I know you got some workouts to get to.
I really appreciate you coming on the show.
You know, I want to thank all the listeners that came on today.
Did you Did you participate in a TVO combine? Uh, no, no, not this year.
Actually Did my first year the first year I did, I did this. I came.
I came to Riley for So it's gonna the next one's going to be a Memphis, Tennessee.
August 22nd Players looking to get in, you know, sign up online of the basketball league.
You know, Jamal, real quick. Let's go. 20 seconds.
Give some, give some advice to players with these combines what you got for me.
Hey, man, go in there.
Big. Very vocal.
Keep in mind that you're going to a combat.
Everybody wants to showcase their game.
Everybody think you just do that about dribble and shoot.
If you got 100 people in the gym dribble in a shoe there you got this one over here diving on the floor, playing defense rebounds.
Who you think everybody's going to see? So I straight a federal thing in my state vocal on stay focused, a positive and a man do balloon things.
Be a great teammate.
That's great advice.
Which mall? Thanks again to all the listeners we appreciate you guys.
If any type of sponsorship that any businesses are interested in want to sponsor the show would be greatly appreciated.
Jamal man again.