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00:02:41
Let's get it off sprawl and brawl, Ground and pound.
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Would it interesting what last couple of hours? Because all of a sudden we got breaking news developing in the boxing world, and it's headlined by a 47 year old.
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It was one of those things that it was a rare a weird moment today, considering the fact that we were scheduled to start off with the aftermath of you have C 2 52 and then all the setting here we are talking about Oscar De La Hoya, at 47 announcing his comeback like really, that's what we're going with right now.
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Are we really interested in Oscar Doyle Delahoya going back at the age of 47? Because I'm iffy about this.
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I'm not 1% sold on the fact that here we are, folks, we've been talking about it before.
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So if you're over there, you then knew that we've talked about the returning of the emergence of Oscar Dela Hoya potentially coming out of retirement.
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This is nothing new.
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The only thing that is news that has formally announced he is making his return at the age of 47.
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The interesting tidbit about this is the fact that Oscar De La Hoya is not returning this year.
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Oscar De La Hoya is returning in 2021.
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What? What is interesting is that charm.
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We have talked about Oscar Dela Hoya about the possibilities about Del Hood coming back.
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Have we not? On several occasions, we have discussed about Delahoya coming back because of the issues with Golden Boy or the issues with his own and the issues have come together was the fact that money money has been the issue.
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Oscar Dela Hoya though.
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Has this kind of this is hunger that never really left him from the ring.
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Allegedly? Yes, I see that allegedly because honestly have 47 years old, you have to figure out a way to spin this right? Absolutely.
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So anybody in that age bracket? Last time we saw Delahoya, this guy quit on the stool against Manny Pacquiao.
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Fast forward to 2020 and 47 years old.
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TTC still as it at 1 54 1 60 I disagree with that.
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I think this is a money ploy.
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I think this is a money kind of money.
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Dig for him.
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If you read what he had to say today about it, it's not a money grab.
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He says that the era of boxing in which we're right now it's a money grab.
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Every fighter in this generation is all about the quick money.
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How could he benefit from the biggest fight or this died on the other, he says.
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What's going in his favor is the fact that he still trains hard.
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He still runs six miles.
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He's still were boxes, six rounds.
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His cardio is still better than some that it is going to start sparring this week, right? So he still feels comfortable that he could still go at this age.
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But the thing that I think about his shootings 47 how are is reflexes? These kids now made train less, may not train as hard as they did 15 years ago, but at the end of the day, Tristen like bro, they're still younger.
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There's still quicker, unfortunately, really thinks that his his his reflexes are the same that it was 15 years ago.
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I don't buy that at all.
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They is reflections of the saying I don't know for a 47 year old step back to the K inside of ah, squared circle and think that he could still take on the kids.
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All I got to think about is this.
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Seriously, I agree with Elijah Drake.
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100% Domi.
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Yeah, there is no way this ends well for him.
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The he says This is not an expedition fight.
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He's not going to the Mike Tyson route or the Roy Jones Jr Rod, This is a real fight.
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Ah, I'm going to take a wait and see approach to this.
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I just don't see him making a name for himself.
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I don't see him doing easy remotely interested in the division at 1 54 1 60 see, that's the interesting thing.
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The way that I look, he's a name and I could Gary to you.
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Every kid that's out there is gonna be like, Yes, I want him.
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Can you imagine a Ryan Garcia verse Oscar De La Hoya? And I put up or shut up at that moment and I looked at that.
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But unfortunately, you got Ryan Garcia.
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That flight fights in the like the featherweight lightweight.
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He's about £20 less to one Oscar dojo and tell her I won't do that again.
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But again, you want to talk about an interesting tidbit.
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Okay, let me throw back.
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Let me throw back.
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Who else does Oscar toe Mahalia promote? So, uh, Canelo and him have had issues in the past.
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Canelo and bullfight.
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At 1 60 you're talking about a potential money grab or let's just put play if you put him in the coughing, who knows who knows what the end game is here, Tristen, also, you want to talk about slightly lower reflexes or damage to the brain cells, whichever, maybe, how about If, say, you do triple G triple genies of that.
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Yeah, and there's been a lot of talks between Oscar dela Holy A and Triple G over the years about whether or not that could get contracts lineup for their fighters.
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Uh, that would be definitely interesting.
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That's what I'm saying.
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But at 47 shot, does he have a shot against Triple G? He has a much better shot, I think, against Triple G.
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Then he would have against Canelo.
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I think that Canelo still Ah young Buck and he doesn't have as much wear and tear on his one tires as much as that of, Ah, economic Lufkin, right? I think that's a completely different entity in itself, but we don't, but we don't have a date or a time officially, when he's coming back, we know he is coming back, correct.
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We don't know against who.
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We don't know a lot at this point.
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It just broke that he is coming out of retirement at 47 years old, So congratulations on screwed.
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I know who you are.
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Just another old fighter that is seven back inside, trying to regain what's left of his glory days We talked about legacy last week about DC's legacy, right? Sean in the UFC and we will switch to that here just a second with the UFC 2 52 Because Deep me, Yeochan first e c happened.
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But Sean, what does this say about the legacy for Oscar Dela Hoya? He comes back at 47.
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Not a whole lot of championship ground in front of him.
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Last time we saw him, he quit on the stool.
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So what does his legacy say? Was once a great fighter was once a legit contender.
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Four titles now, a shell of himself, a quitter.
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What we kind of to me you've got, such as part of his name to me.
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His legacy has already been ruined on multiple levels on multiple fronts.
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Tristan, whether it was the disaster of his Emma may attempt, um, whether it's him quitting on the stool.
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The boy Emily, what a sham that was.
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I don't want to tarnish his name.
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I really don't.
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But the thing that I have an issue with is the fact that you look at everything that he's done some good and some bad.
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The bad to me far outweighs anything good he's done for the sport on, and it takes me back to the weird situation that we were in decades ago with Don King.
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Yeah, Don King had some weird stuff that happened.
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Well, yeah, everybody's on.
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King is being talked about coming back into the promoting game, but you talk about that and what he's done, and it's just like e that the stigma is still there.
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And you just want to hope that at some point it's a smart strategic plan box the WB, right? They can't just pray and hope that you forget about certain things.
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That's the thing you can't forget about what has transpired in Oscar De La Hoya's career or what has happened down the road to where we're at right now.
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You can't It is there, and it is going to be kind of just pushed out there.
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So it's gonna be interesting to see where he comes from China and what is made off this.
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But it's difficult to be interesting.
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Teacher 2020.
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Wine is gonna be an interesting year.
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Hopefully the pandemics over.
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Hopefully, hopefully, but we got UFC 2 52 that happened.
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Did d c walk out with the title.
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Something's a little fishy about that one, but more with it across brother Sports warriors coming up after this short little break.
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Yeah, but in the meantime, D.
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C.
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Steep a meal kit went down over the week.
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UFC 2 52 d c.
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Did not walk out as champion.
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He walked out with the tourney retina instead.
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Sorry, didn't mean to love Meal Kit is now the greatest UFC heavyweight fighter in the world.
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And see how I use that UFC greatest heavyweight.
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This will be debated for years to come, decades to come.
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Who is the greatest heavyweight of all time? Right? Some will say Fed or some will say Bojic.
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Some will say maybe even d C for what he has done.
00:17:03
However, my debate comes down to the fact that here we are talking about a tor net retina with D.
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C.
00:17:15
Right? And I like how people try to spin that saying, Well, if d c didn't get an eye poke, it would've been a different fight.
00:17:23
But did anybody see the eye pope that he did to your kitchen? It was like the same.
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I poke shot like the same amount of finger winning Tuomioja in size, and he was okay.
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Well, yea, we're talking about D C Storm Retina, his retirement.
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It's fella farewell.
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Walk away.
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I just This is where the debate gets here, trusting right because you talk about DC's legacy.
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You talk about D.
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C, where he's where he has come from, where he has gone in his career.
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And to me, if you look at his body of work, Sean, he has losses to John Jones.
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Yes, losses to me.
00:18:12
Ohh! Like you win one.
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You lose when you win when you lose one.
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But that's never really dominated any division.
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He sees a good fighter could be a good champion.
00:18:29
Well, then, I guess you could say, like, a couple weeks ago if you if you check this out on our other platform that you would have known that I guess you could say we talked about Adam Times do the Adam Heinz do curse? If you don't know that, um, kinds in sports absolutely educate you a little bit.
00:18:45
Adam Heinz Do was a minor league player in Major league baseball that played for the Pittsburgh Pirates and we compare Adam Heinz deal was that if you look at his Major league baseball numbers, they were May.
00:19:00
But if you look at his minor league numbers, that guy tore it.
00:19:04
Ah, interest in Tripoli.
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So we cost vitamins that Triple A player.
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He was always better than his his subsequent competition in Triple A play.
00:19:16
But when he got to the big show, never elite player that he was supposed to be.
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But he was about average.
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Now that's a little bit of ah, harsh knock for D.
00:19:25
C.
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But D.
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C.
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When he got to the top of the food chain, he was.
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So there were there was something a little bit off.
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Yes, he was.
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He was eight consistence when it mattered the greatness level.
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To me, it was almost as if, like interesting comparison, a Donald Sarona Donald Cerrone e broke underneath the big lights.
00:19:48
Now you look at D. C. D.
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C.
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Has had more success under the bright lights, Absolutely, but there's a parallel a little bit there, absolutely that he was always beatable.
00:20:01
And how much seriousness did he take into his training regimen? Not to knock home, but again, he did not look like that's traditional D.
00:20:12
C that you come to me.
00:20:14
Yeah, 100% agree with that.
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I thought he came in a little bit more fluffy or than normal.
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And to me, like how much of it was he really fully into this fight against me? Oh, church knowing he had already checked out.
00:20:31
I was just gonna say that, Sean.
00:20:32
One thing is that a combat sports world you have to be all in or you're all out.
00:20:37
Any time that you start having down coming in your head and you start thinking about retiring, it ultimately means to end for you.
00:20:47
Yeah, it means your time is running out that the doubt is creepy in the time is now to step away.
00:20:57
So we came into that cage still with that doubt.
00:21:01
Still, with that mindset that you're not 100% involved, you're 100% checked out.
00:21:09
I don't care if you're inside that cage and you're doing what you need to do.
00:21:14
You're mentally not there.
00:21:16
And we talked about that a couple weeks ago.
00:21:19
Oh, are about a week ago was when you come out and you announce retirement.
00:21:25
How are you motivated? I mean, you could try to Sean.
00:21:30
We see we saw Augustus in granted his his minds a little washy, as at best.
00:21:35
But he retired.
00:21:37
Unretired came back, got destroyed.
00:21:41
It happens.
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You get the itch.
00:21:44
Oscar De La Hoya is coming back.
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He quit on the stool.
00:21:49
We're in a very interesting world in combat sports for fighters in general because you look at them and you kind of put this, put them on a pedestal as they are big time athletes in a big time world making big time money.
00:22:08
But what they do about their legacy or the longevity in the sport is totally different from one to the other.
00:22:14
Yeah, so when you're looking at D.
00:22:17
C, you're looking at his body of work and that's what I eat.
00:22:20
Quick body of work, right? The legitimacy of D.
00:22:26
C is that he's a great fighter.
00:22:30
Greatest of all time.
00:22:32
No, no.
00:22:33
And I would even say that Meo Church is the greatest of all.
00:22:36
Dunya again I referred Buttress it.
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See, that's the thing that irks me all the time.
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Is why is that everybody? Whether it is in this field.
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Major League Baseball NFL N B A.
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Why is everybody so quick to pass the the greatest of all time? No shame.
00:22:55
Like like let your career officially end and see where your stats your savory stack up.
00:23:02
See where you measure measure up and this start talking about to go.
00:23:06
We We were not talk about Michael Jordan about being the greatest of all time, being the Goat until his career was done and we saw his accolades.
00:23:15
And then he was dubbed simply the greatest of all time.
00:23:19
Ric Flair, 16 time world champion.
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We didn't dub him as the greatest of all time until he was done and was pushed off to the side.
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Now he's the greatest of all time.
00:23:32
Sting was in classified as the icon until his career subsequent started to go away, and that he has known as Icon.
00:23:40
Sting because of the body of work, will tell you what your career is not by a fan or by a media personality saying that you are, and I agree.
00:23:54
Justin Mm A needs a criteria check on what is cause of ideas to go and subsequent needs to start with when when somebody's career is legitimately over, where does he measure up? Then start that conversation about to go like to me.
00:24:13
You can right now say that the go in m m A right now in the UFC Not in Emma May, even though you could probably make a case for it is easily without a question.
00:24:26
GSP George ST Pierre is one of the greatest off all time.
00:24:32
Okay, you you could you could double down on that, too.
00:24:36
Jon Jones regards of what? Hey, he has done in his career outside of the U.
00:24:41
S.
00:24:42
C.
00:24:43
With his his actions for a little over a decade, Sean, this guy has been the most dominant light heavyweight in the history of the game.
00:24:53
People might see that he lost that last fight against dominant Cruz, and that may be, but he was dominating in his time.
00:25:03
Let's see and effective.
00:25:05
That's another.
00:25:06
That's another debate for another time, though, because of the fact that when you look at the about, if you're wanted, classify Jon Jones greatest of all time, you can he tarnish his own legacy for multiple use auto brakes.
00:25:20
I'm telling you, you got you If you want for? It s based on criteria of non USADA or even you saw it.
00:25:29
I guess you could say that, Justin, but you can.
00:25:33
You can base the criteria on your stats and what area you were involved in because much like Major league baseball, you still talk about Sammy Sosa has been one of the greatest homeland years of all.
00:25:44
Still talk about Mark, Mark Pryor and in a steroid era size? Well, they can think of.
00:25:50
But you emphasize steroid era.
00:25:53
Yep, in any conversation those two were involved in.
00:25:57
So if you want to talk about John Jones in an era, I guess you could maybe somehow incorporate him into into a steroid testing era.
00:26:09
Maybe.
00:26:10
I mean, it's 50 50.
00:26:12
It really is, um, but isn't interesting debate? None.
00:26:17
Unless that I don't think it's going to go away anytime in the near future.
00:26:22
Not for fans, because you talk about John Jones.
00:26:26
John Jones, to me overshadowed the fact that D.
00:26:31
C.
00:26:32
And my coaches had one hell of a fight, and then we subsequently at the end of the night, we weren't talking about that.
00:26:38
We're talking about that Jon Jones relinquished a title that I swear he relinquished four months ago.
00:26:46
And then he officially announces he really was.
00:26:50
Why and then always.
00:26:52
I love the media, how they play off the fact that as as if we forgot about the fact that John Jones already relinquished his title yet he tweets it out and officially announces it, or the fact that they had a conversation or the fact that they announced Dominick Reyes verse, I believe it's what is.
00:27:12
Block awaits La Bocca Woods.
00:27:15
They announced that after the first time, Jon Jones announced that he was really cool during his title.
00:27:21
By way, it's now a go.
00:27:24
Hey, Google, Google it, Google it like Are we seriously? Are we seriously trying to From make sure that the fans don't remember what is going on is you? It's like you're taking a page book trips out of the W.
00:27:39
Yes, let's see how dumb the fans are.
00:27:41
If they still remember, every Digna has transpired in the last two months.
00:27:46
Go ahead. I'll wait.
00:27:49
We knew John Jones had contract issues.
00:27:52
We know he has issues with Dana White.
00:27:55
We know this is still are going.
00:27:57
Do you honestly think that we're going to see John Joseph heavyweight any time soon.
00:28:03
John, honestly, I do not see this happening at all.
00:28:08
At least not this year.
00:28:10
Maybe into early 2020.
00:28:12
Wine mid 2021.
00:28:15
I think we'll see John Jones, but I don't see Jon Jones inside of a cage this year because I don't seek the money is where John Jones wants it to be.
00:28:31
The contract issues that are still there.
00:28:35
I don't see John Jones as much.
00:28:37
Is she saying that he wants to go up to heavyweight, and that's eventually where he's going to land because he's not a light heavyweight anymore.
00:28:47
But, man, I'm trying to figure out how he's gonna put on muscle because he has legs as toothpicks.
00:28:59
Explain to me how he's going to throw a late kick against a guy like Francis and Goneau, who is like 6 ft 4 £250.
00:29:13
And you're right now, maybe about 2 20 and your things were about as big as my water bottle.
00:29:22
How are you going to kick a guy like Francis in Ghana? That is crazy to think about something like that and the thing that always had, like that fight is not going to happy the but the fight isn't gonna happen between Jon Jones and Francis Nagano.
00:29:43
It's just not going to.
00:29:46
Dana White has announced it.
00:29:48
That doesn't make incense.
00:29:50
Nagano is next up against me.
00:29:52
Ohh! We're going to see Number two against that.
00:29:54
Jon Jones is likely to fight.
00:29:56
Maybe the winner of maybe Curtis play on Blades and Derek Lewis.
00:30:00
That would be interesting.
00:30:01
Um, maybe there's another fight in there.
00:30:04
He really wants to send you.
00:30:06
I don't see that fight happening, but Tristen, he's He's put himself in a peculiar situation where it's ****ed if he does, ****ed if he doesn't, he's either going to suck this pride and he's going to do something and he's going to compete or he's not.
00:30:25
Do you realize that if John Jones does show up in in heavyweight division right and is able to get through guys like Derek Lewis like a Rose, a stroke who beat on those Sanyo's if if he could get past guys like Francis and Gano are big guys like that, then we could be honestly talk about probably one of the greatest fighters in the world.
00:30:50
And you, even though he has tarnished his name, Sean, you cannot.
00:30:55
Regardless, when he sits inside that cage, he is the best.
00:31:00
Is you not? So it's gonna be interested to see where John Jones goes If he could get past the big heavyweights, the big bruisers, Because he will have to put on a lot of muscle mass.
00:31:13
A lot of way.
00:31:14
If you feel loses tiuna, Ghana is gonna be by death of a Kale.
00:31:20
He's gonna be another Nagano.
00:31:22
A mean, that's what's gonna happen if he loses to any of the big time heavyweights.
00:31:29
Yeah, uh, it's gonna be interesting for his legacy.
00:31:38
You and legacy tonight? Yes, because we're talking.
00:31:42
We're talking about a interest.
00:31:45
Seaworld right now.
00:31:46
Eight combat sports because of D C retirement CMP Probably probably close to retiring.
00:31:53
When did you say shot? Yeah, Jon Jones.
00:31:57
You mentioned GSP.
00:31:59
So you're talking about these guys that have a lot on the line? Ultimately, Sean, if you're talking about changing the division, changing where it's going, you have to talk about that one word regards of what you think it's going to happen.
00:32:23
Chart.
00:32:24
I guess Onley time will tell What the true outcome off what happened at 2 to 50 to 52 what the future entails with John Jones.
00:32:35
Yep, because it's cloudy right now.
00:32:39
He overshot a body with a chance of meatballs.
00:32:43
There may be meatballs.
00:32:45
You may get here with a meatball.
00:32:47
It may be a virtual meatball who knows on L E. D.
00:32:51
Screen, maybe.
00:32:52
But like the Thunderdome and we're going but also used, like you want to talk about another overshadowing the situation.
00:33:00
D. C. Announces retirement.
00:33:02
Anthony Rumble Johnson says.
00:33:03
I'm back.
00:33:04
Well, he lost.
00:33:05
How did Thomas fall when he lost to D.
00:33:09
C and retire 25th? Couldn't even 2017? Yeah, so now you look at the transition and it's like Holy in, like so.
00:33:22
So DC's out of the picture.
00:33:24
I'll go ahead and Jones is seriously out of the picture, but still, you may end up seeing a rumble versus John Jones Rumbles.
00:33:33
Heavyweight rumbles fighting 205 So again, you talk about the dominos have fallen to this effect, right? John Jones relinquishes the title.
00:33:45
Moves up to heavyweight.
00:33:48
Rumble comes back, D C retires.
00:33:51
Dominic.
00:33:52
It's his title shot.
00:33:55
See how everything kind of plays into a part.
00:33:58
Yeah, is it's good, but I'm just I want to see what 2020 one's gonna look like.
00:34:06
2021 is gonna be interesting once we come out of this pandemic and see where everybody's chips lie, whether it be in combat sports or whether it be in boxing, it doesn't matter.
00:34:18
Chips are going to get interesting.
00:34:21
And it's gonna be unique for the landscape of combat sports to see how how you well, they bring back fans how the fans are gonna adapt to being back in an audience and dropping hundreds thousands and millions of dollars on sports tickets again.
00:34:43
This is this is gonna be on WB rock.
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Yeah, I got the email, Got the notification, and I can rate to burst your bubble.
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It's like it's like watching a balloon floating up.
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And then you try to take a needle and throwing it right through the balloon and walking into pop all over the place.
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We will see if you pop my balloon because I got the email So we'll see Seaview popular if you got the email and you actually read it email? I did.
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God forbid you read.
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If you are not, you get past correct.
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Since high frame is 9:30 p.m.
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Eastern time is when you get called up. Yes.
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So, um, is that here, like 5 30 give or take? Yes.
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So I should be home by the time dove into the specter goes live I will get a link that I will be able to click on and I'll be live on the WB sunder dough.
00:38:21
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Yeah, because if you have a logo on your shirt or anything else, you will be passed over.
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There's a dress code.
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Weird.
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Let me.
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I got the email.
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Me Read it.
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How can you not They signed a double V sign to read his residency with the Amway Center in Orlando and the development production called The Thunderdome.
00:42:12
And many people were trying to figure out, Is it going to be like the Thunderdome in the movie? Welcome to the Thunderdome and I finally saw the official layout of this, and it almost looks like the cage in the thunder.
00:42:26
No, except instead of having fans hanging off the cage, you have these led screens all the way around you crazy, crazy.
00:42:43
And Friday night you'll get to see the debut of the Thunderdome before Summer Slam this weekend.
00:42:53
For two months, they're going to be at the Amway Center with the Thunderdome.
00:43:02
You got Friday.
00:43:03
You got Friday, their debut.
00:43:05
You got an X T take over that will see Pat McAfee Oh, boy versus oh, Adam! Cold baby Did summer slam Do you get Monday night Raw and X t Smackdown! Pay per view. Payback.
00:43:27
Monday night Raw.
00:43:30
It's definitely going to be interesting.
00:43:32
A different take on what we're talking about being the Thunderdome because they're talking about Sean big time productions.
00:43:43
Listen to this.
00:43:44
We'll if you looked at the clip already of the teaser for the Thunderdome.
00:43:49
Dude, they're going all out making sure, like, as in as if this is the rial thing.
00:43:54
But yet the fans air, not their shine the Thunderdome, right? Check this out.
00:44:03
You want to talk about something, Getting you speak for this? Something that was leaked about the Thunderdome was Drew McIntyre's entrance.
00:44:15
Check out Drew McIntyre's entrance.
00:44:20
He will have content on the roof.
00:44:25
You will come out with lasers and pyro and smoke and projections will be on the top of the Thunderdome and the floor of the Thunderdome, and the theme will come out to the finger.
00:44:43
Oh, I don't know what the Fiend Dome is, but I'm curious to see what the fiend omits, right? So already authorities, I could visualize what you Mecca ties is going to be right, and it's it's saying, What did you think about the Fing Dome? Has be very intrigued.
00:45:08
Of course it does causes the fiend.
00:45:12
It could be interesting and definitely raw underground will be at the Amway Center will be brought after.
00:45:20
I guess it's like the after Aftershow or something like that, kind of what they're doing and this is interesting.
00:45:27
Okay, because what was that movie? The boiler room? Do you remember that movie? The boiler room? Yeah.
00:45:36
Don't be Roger on underground will take place in a ba*****t city of the Amway Center.
00:45:45
Where the hell is that, right? I was a wait.
00:45:52
Nobody, nobody raw underground will be raw to the Amway Center and will be put into a face.
00:46:00
Mai.
00:46:01
I still don't know where WB Raw Underground is in the W Performance Center, but it's somewhere it's somewhere in the performance center because they have a smoke machine on the front entrance and the front interest with a bodyguard that has no red rope or anything like that about who can and cannot get in.
00:46:27
But somehow nine.
00:46:29
Jackson **** can't get put in.
00:46:32
But we'll talk about the rot underground here in a minute.
00:46:36
Let's continue to talk about the fact that we're talking about the Thunderdome.
00:46:39
Sean wants me to put something up, and you want to give the premise of what it's roughly gonna look like. Krystle.
00:46:46
Throw it up on the screen here in a second to kind of justify what you're kind of looking in, and it's not a complete dome, Like from the mad Max Thunderdome? Yes.
00:47:00
The concept came from probably Mad Max to Thunderdome, kid in the movie.
00:47:04
100% it did.
00:47:07
So you look at it or let me see what you get.
00:47:09
This one.
00:47:14
So the thunderdome, I want to use this one.
00:47:21
See if I could pull it right here, right in between us.
00:47:28
That's the Thunderdome from the movie Mad Max.
00:47:32
Right.
00:47:33
See how the fades are d****d around the cage.
00:47:36
So to give you some parallel, they're not gonna have all those types of designs through it.
00:47:43
They're just having, uh, like, like pillars coming up and over.
00:47:48
Let's see if I know it's not gonna look like a Thunderdome cage like that does.
00:47:55
But you at least get the concept that you'll have at least like I think, four structure polls roaming around every which way.
00:48:06
See if I could get you guys This kind of to give you an idea. Yeah.
00:48:12
I was gonna pull this up real quick.
00:48:14
Covers up, give you guys an idea.
00:48:20
You so see how there's there's arms.
00:48:25
You'll have the ring circle in the middle will be led screens as well.
00:48:32
But see the arms.
00:48:33
How they kind of go off the sides.
00:48:36
That's your thundered Oh, that's your exit for now.
00:48:40
Those pillars that look like ah against you say, like the Riddler's cane? Yes, Um, or the question mark.
00:48:47
It's facing inward now, not outward. They're facing.
00:48:52
And we're now to make that dome shaped. Correct.
00:48:56
So that's what the Thunderdome is going to look like for DWB with a grip Ton of production with this? Yes, Like a couple years ago, we would never think production like this in wrestling.
00:49:09
It was even possible.
00:49:12
Come the pandemic.
00:49:14
It is possible.
00:49:15
But the question is like, You do all this now.
00:49:19
Are you anticipating the pandemic toe last longer.
00:49:23
And then also, why are you trying to do this now? Why did you wait till now to do this? I think I think we're talking about ratings, I think because Ross ratings WB's ratings are not where they should be.
00:49:42
I think they're kind of grasping that a lot of straws right now, Shawn, and they're trying to figure out what is going to stick.
00:49:48
What is going to be there to give them ratings.
00:49:54
When you think a Thunderdome, you're in medium reaction.
00:49:59
You're intrigued, because what does it look like? Right? B zero b Rex was Roll the thundered Thunderdome.
00:50:05
You're thinking of man mags so immediately? My mind is like, Oh, dude, I got the inside of a cage, right? My media reaction was shoot.
00:50:13
Is it gonna look like the red cage that impact wrestling had those couple of years ago? Yep.
00:50:18
A big dome over a cage.
00:50:21
And I thought, That's what we're going to get Not understanding that the productions called Thunderdome.
00:50:27
And it's kind of a play on the man Max Thunderdome because of the fans aspect and how they haven't layered in.
00:50:36
I get it now he's Then I saw the life footage of it and I showed you, and I was like, That's it, I'm done.
00:50:43
That is dope as hell.
00:50:46
And the interesting thing is that they waited to do it for Smackdown on Fox.
00:50:51
Big time, I guess.
00:50:53
I mean, prime time, big time sought against high players time.
00:50:57
I don't hurting on Fox for ratings wise, and you need that extra boost.
00:51:02
This is gonna be a great way to do it straight up.
00:51:05
So if you guys are available, please.
00:51:07
I watched them to be Smackdown for the Thunderdome.
00:51:10
You're interested in being part of the virtual fan interaction? W dot wwd thunder dome dot com.
00:51:18
And then you could probably get on raw on Monday or he got an X t.
00:51:23
Yeah, well, no NST I What I read was still at full sail, and ah, so nxt takeover will be at at on the thunderdome.
00:51:34
Okay, so it would be interesting next week to see what next three shows will be A will be at the Thunderdome, which is it will be interesting 100%.
00:51:44
I'm interesting.
00:51:46
I'll give for that.
00:51:48
I'm interested to see where? What's the next step for them? Definitely going to be interesting.
00:51:54
But I could I could see the ratings go through the roof because everybody wants to see what the Thunderdome is gonna look like.
00:51:58
Now I'm beginning to wonder if everybody is ready to see Belt or 2 to 44 this weekend.
00:52:04
It because, I mean, there's nothing really intriguing about belt or to 40 for Megan Ryan.
00:52:09
Better Bater comes back.
00:52:11
Yes.
00:52:12
He hasn't defended his title since 2017.
00:52:15
I mean, hasn't funded one tool 56 2017 when it was So How is he going to do as a light heavyweight? How is he going to do as the light heavyweight? Drop him back down after competing at heavyweight? Yeah, he's gonna get to guide a on em cough.
00:52:32
Who is no joke.
00:52:34
Ninth, Keough's has freakish power last time.
00:52:39
Doesn't matter where the fight is, Whether it's standing or on the ground, he'll finish it.
00:52:42
He loves to throw his hand.
00:52:44
Does it matter if he's a wrestler? Because he took on Phil Davis and beat Phil Davison in the in a decision? Yeah, so he can.
00:52:51
He can go against elite wrestlers and secure the bag. Totally.
00:52:56
So I'm not worried about him.
00:52:59
He has strong hands in front of him.
00:53:01
You know what? I'm gonna go out on a limb, Tristan, cough and say name Cop is gonna win this fight.
00:53:06
Ryan, baby tost Tool five.
00:53:08
And Ryan Boehner is gonna try to grapple.
00:53:11
He's a much a better grappler.
00:53:12
I field into a striker.
00:53:14
Yeah, so I think that's what is in favor of baiter in this contest.
00:53:20
But I think that the weapons and name cough has is just far Superior.
00:53:24
I think we will see a new light heavyweight champion for Bela Tor agree at 2 44 and the future is going to be altered a little bit.
00:53:34
And what's your what's your opinion on Julia? But she got Jesse Meal A, and I immediately looked at that, said, Thank you for throwing her a cookie.
00:53:44
And pretty much is it's a softball.
00:53:47
It's basically to get her well, basically, what to get her hurt, get her way back into it.
00:53:53
Yeah, after being off since she lost the cyborg destroyed by sideboard, it's basically to get away and get her ready and tuned up for a rematch against Cyborg.
00:54:03
That's what this is.
00:54:05
Not to take you to take away Jesse Mealy not to take anything away from her, but this is a tuneup fight for Julia.
00:54:12
But who's just gonna grapple where? Opponent down? Take a decision and they go on to compete for a rematch against cyborg.
00:54:21
That's what this is all about.
00:54:22
That's all it is.
00:54:24
And again we see another returning veteran, right? Nelson.
00:54:28
Roy Nelson returns after the guy hasn't won in three years.
00:54:31
He's a name that that's literally all I It's all I did.
00:54:36
I looked at this card, looked at Ryan Elsie and said, How could this flight make sense? And I was like, Well, he's in a He's a name for Valentin Matejovsky valentines gonna walk in there and sorry, I I believe is gonna be Roy Roy Has anything left? No, he's a one trick pony with that big overhand, right? Yeah, you're not coming from a mile away.
00:54:58
And then it's like, Oh, we got a banger.
00:55:02
It's this pump the brakes saying, Let me go ahead and catch up.
00:55:06
I I don't see anything left.
00:55:10
And Roy Nelson, except for having that name being attached to him because he was in the UFC.
00:55:17
He was every way guy.
00:55:19
It fun fights.
00:55:21
But beyond that, Sean, he nothing special right now in Bella tour in the heavyweight division.
00:55:28
I don't know where you go from there.
00:55:30
I don't, but we'll see.
00:55:33
We'll see.
00:55:34
Come on, Delatour to 44.
00:55:38
And then you got to talk about something interesting this past week.
00:55:41
What do yet? So all these MME promotions are trying to figure out how to get the next big thing.
00:55:48
Or how do how to give fans to venues and try to figure out how to get audiences to fight cards.
00:55:57
Well, a UK promotion called Contenders put on their ah, put on a fight Call contenders 30 a k a. The driving.
00:56:07
Oh, yeah, If no, no, go ahead and Google it.
00:56:10
It was cool, because what they did was that it took place at Tougher Ham Hall in Norwich, in which they did it outside, set up a cage with a big sound giant Titan Traum thing behind them with legit commentary and a legit ring announcer inside the cage.
00:56:29
And guess what? You literally drove up to the venue.
00:56:34
And do you know what the view hands were doing that in the car and watched it from the from the Jumbotrons while you turned on to a radio dial and listen to live commentary? Did the frog.
00:56:48
Oh, that is brilliant.
00:56:50
And the fans that were in the cards were honking horns during the fights.
00:56:55
Brilliant.
00:56:56
If you're looking for something to do different here on the state side and you are looking for okay, you know what I I can't afford this or can't afford that.
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Well, here's a way to.
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Here's a loophole for you.
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Fight a fight, Theron.
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Promoters out there.
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If you guys want to hold a fight car, just make it a driving.
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THE SPORTS WARRIORS | UFC 252 AFTER | BELLATOR 244 | LATEST ON RAW

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Let's get it off sprawl and brawl, Ground and pound.
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Get ready for an M M.
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A showdown now the ultimate Octagon insider, Sean and trusting Do Cross.
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Well, it's up, everybody.
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Welcome to the new cross for the sports Warriors.
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I'm were your host for this evening.
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We're that across for others and I would be welcome everybody to the do Cross Brothers.
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My one and only shunned across.
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Would it interesting what last couple of hours? Because all of a sudden we got breaking news developing in the boxing world, and it's headlined by a 47 year old.
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It was one of those things that it was a rare a weird moment today, considering the fact that we were scheduled to start off with the aftermath of you have C 2 52 and then all the setting here we are talking about Oscar De La Hoya, at 47 announcing his comeback like really, that's what we're going with right now.
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Are we really interested in Oscar Doyle Delahoya going back at the age of 47? Because I'm iffy about this.
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I'm not 1% sold on the fact that here we are, folks, we've been talking about it before.
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If you If you're new to our stream right now on SportsCastr, we're new here.
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We're combat sports talk show.
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So if you're over there, you then knew that we've talked about the returning of the emergence of Oscar Dela Hoya potentially coming out of retirement.
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This is nothing new.
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The only thing that is news that has formally announced he is making his return at the age of 47.
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The interesting tidbit about this is the fact that Oscar De La Hoya is not returning this year.
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Oscar De La Hoya is returning in 2021.
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What? What is interesting is that charm.
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We have talked about Oscar Dela Hoya about the possibilities about Del Hood coming back.
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Have we not? On several occasions, we have discussed about Delahoya coming back because of the issues with Golden Boy or the issues with his own and the issues have come together was the fact that money money has been the issue.
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Oscar Dela Hoya though.
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Has this kind of this is hunger that never really left him from the ring.
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Allegedly? Yes, I see that allegedly because honestly have 47 years old, you have to figure out a way to spin this right? Absolutely.
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So anybody in that age bracket? Last time we saw Delahoya, this guy quit on the stool against Manny Pacquiao.
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Fast forward to 2020 and 47 years old.
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TTC still as it at 1 54 1 60 I disagree with that.
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I think this is a money ploy.
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I think this is a money kind of money.
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Dig for him.
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If you read what he had to say today about it, it's not a money grab.
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He says that the era of boxing in which we're right now it's a money grab.
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Every fighter in this generation is all about the quick money.
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How could he benefit from the biggest fight or this died on the other, he says.
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What's going in his favor is the fact that he still trains hard.
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He still runs six miles.
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He's still were boxes, six rounds.
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His cardio is still better than some that it is going to start sparring this week, right? So he still feels comfortable that he could still go at this age.
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But the thing that I think about his shootings 47 how are is reflexes? These kids now made train less, may not train as hard as they did 15 years ago, but at the end of the day, Tristen like bro, they're still younger.
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There's still quicker, unfortunately, really thinks that his his his reflexes are the same that it was 15 years ago.
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I don't buy that at all.
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They is reflections of the saying I don't know for a 47 year old step back to the K inside of ah, squared circle and think that he could still take on the kids.
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All I got to think about is this.
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Seriously, I agree with Elijah Drake.
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100% Domi.
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Yeah, there is no way this ends well for him.
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The he says This is not an expedition fight.
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He's not going to the Mike Tyson route or the Roy Jones Jr Rod, This is a real fight.
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Ah, I'm going to take a wait and see approach to this.
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I just don't see him making a name for himself.
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I don't see him doing easy remotely interested in the division at 1 54 1 60 see, that's the interesting thing.
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The way that I look, he's a name and I could Gary to you.
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Every kid that's out there is gonna be like, Yes, I want him.
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Can you imagine a Ryan Garcia verse Oscar De La Hoya? And I put up or shut up at that moment and I looked at that.
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But unfortunately, you got Ryan Garcia.
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That flight fights in the like the featherweight lightweight.
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He's about £20 less to one Oscar dojo and tell her I won't do that again.
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But again, you want to talk about an interesting tidbit.
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Okay, let me throw back.
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Let me throw back.
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Who else does Oscar toe Mahalia promote? So, uh, Canelo and him have had issues in the past.
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Canelo and bullfight.
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At 1 60 you're talking about a potential money grab or let's just put play if you put him in the coughing, who knows who knows what the end game is here, Tristen, also, you want to talk about slightly lower reflexes or damage to the brain cells, whichever, maybe, how about If, say, you do triple G triple genies of that.
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Yeah, and there's been a lot of talks between Oscar dela Holy A and Triple G over the years about whether or not that could get contracts lineup for their fighters.
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Uh, that would be definitely interesting.
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That's what I'm saying.
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But at 47 shot, does he have a shot against Triple G? He has a much better shot, I think, against Triple G.
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Then he would have against Canelo.
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I think that Canelo still Ah young Buck and he doesn't have as much wear and tear on his one tires as much as that of, Ah, economic Lufkin, right? I think that's a completely different entity in itself, but we don't, but we don't have a date or a time officially, when he's coming back, we know he is coming back, correct.
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We don't know against who.
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We don't know a lot at this point.
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It just broke that he is coming out of retirement at 47 years old, So congratulations on screwed.
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I know who you are.
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Just another old fighter that is seven back inside, trying to regain what's left of his glory days We talked about legacy last week about DC's legacy, right? Sean in the UFC and we will switch to that here just a second with the UFC 2 52 Because Deep me, Yeochan first e c happened.
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But Sean, what does this say about the legacy for Oscar Dela Hoya? He comes back at 47.
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Not a whole lot of championship ground in front of him.
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Last time we saw him, he quit on the stool.
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So what does his legacy say? Was once a great fighter was once a legit contender.
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Four titles now, a shell of himself, a quitter.
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What we kind of to me you've got, such as part of his name to me.
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His legacy has already been ruined on multiple levels on multiple fronts.
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Tristan, whether it was the disaster of his Emma may attempt, um, whether it's him quitting on the stool.
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The boy Emily, what a sham that was.
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I don't want to tarnish his name.
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I really don't.
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But the thing that I have an issue with is the fact that you look at everything that he's done some good and some bad.
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The bad to me far outweighs anything good he's done for the sport on, and it takes me back to the weird situation that we were in decades ago with Don King.
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Yeah, Don King had some weird stuff that happened.
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Well, yeah, everybody's on.
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King is being talked about coming back into the promoting game, but you talk about that and what he's done, and it's just like e that the stigma is still there.
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And you just want to hope that at some point it's a smart strategic plan box the WB, right? They can't just pray and hope that you forget about certain things.
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That's the thing you can't forget about what has transpired in Oscar De La Hoya's career or what has happened down the road to where we're at right now.
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You can't It is there, and it is going to be kind of just pushed out there.
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So it's gonna be interesting to see where he comes from China and what is made off this.
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But it's difficult to be interesting.
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Teacher 2020.
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Wine is gonna be an interesting year.
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Hopefully the pandemics over.
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Hopefully, hopefully, but we got UFC 2 52 that happened.
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Did d c walk out with the title.
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Yeah, but in the meantime, D.
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C.
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Steep a meal kit went down over the week.
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UFC 2 52 d c.
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Did not walk out as champion.
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He walked out with the tourney retina instead.
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Sorry, didn't mean to love Meal Kit is now the greatest UFC heavyweight fighter in the world.
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And see how I use that UFC greatest heavyweight.
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This will be debated for years to come, decades to come.
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Who is the greatest heavyweight of all time? Right? Some will say Fed or some will say Bojic.
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Some will say maybe even d C for what he has done.
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However, my debate comes down to the fact that here we are talking about a tor net retina with D.
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C.
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Right? And I like how people try to spin that saying, Well, if d c didn't get an eye poke, it would've been a different fight.
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But did anybody see the eye pope that he did to your kitchen? It was like the same.
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I poke shot like the same amount of finger winning Tuomioja in size, and he was okay.
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Well, yea, we're talking about D C Storm Retina, his retirement.
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It's fella farewell.
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Walk away.
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I just This is where the debate gets here, trusting right because you talk about DC's legacy.
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You talk about D.
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C, where he's where he has come from, where he has gone in his career.
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And to me, if you look at his body of work, Sean, he has losses to John Jones.
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Yes, losses to me.
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Ohh! Like you win one.
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You lose when you win when you lose one.
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But that's never really dominated any division.
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He sees a good fighter could be a good champion.
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Well, then, I guess you could say, like, a couple weeks ago if you if you check this out on our other platform that you would have known that I guess you could say we talked about Adam Times do the Adam Heinz do curse? If you don't know that, um, kinds in sports absolutely educate you a little bit.
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But if you look at his minor league numbers, that guy tore it.
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Ah, interest in Tripoli.
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So we cost vitamins that Triple A player.
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He was always better than his his subsequent competition in Triple A play.
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But when he got to the big show, never elite player that he was supposed to be.
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But he was about average.
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Now that's a little bit of ah, harsh knock for D.
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C.
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But D.
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C.
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When he got to the top of the food chain, he was.
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So there were there was something a little bit off.
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Yes, he was.
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He was eight consistence when it mattered the greatness level.
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To me, it was almost as if, like interesting comparison, a Donald Sarona Donald Cerrone e broke underneath the big lights.
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Now you look at D. C. D.
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C.
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Has had more success under the bright lights, Absolutely, but there's a parallel a little bit there, absolutely that he was always beatable.
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And how much seriousness did he take into his training regimen? Not to knock home, but again, he did not look like that's traditional D.
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C that you come to me.
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Yeah, 100% agree with that.
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I thought he came in a little bit more fluffy or than normal.
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And to me, like how much of it was he really fully into this fight against me? Oh, church knowing he had already checked out.
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I was just gonna say that, Sean.
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One thing is that a combat sports world you have to be all in or you're all out.
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Any time that you start having down coming in your head and you start thinking about retiring, it ultimately means to end for you.
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Yeah, it means your time is running out that the doubt is creepy in the time is now to step away.
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So we came into that cage still with that doubt.
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Still, with that mindset that you're not 100% involved, you're 100% checked out.
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I don't care if you're inside that cage and you're doing what you need to do.
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You're mentally not there.
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And we talked about that a couple weeks ago.
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Oh, are about a week ago was when you come out and you announce retirement.
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How are you motivated? I mean, you could try to Sean.
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We see we saw Augustus in granted his his minds a little washy, as at best.
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But he retired.
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Unretired came back, got destroyed.
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It happens.
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You get the itch.
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Oscar De La Hoya is coming back.
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He quit on the stool.
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We're in a very interesting world in combat sports for fighters in general because you look at them and you kind of put this, put them on a pedestal as they are big time athletes in a big time world making big time money.
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But what they do about their legacy or the longevity in the sport is totally different from one to the other.
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Yeah, so when you're looking at D.
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C, you're looking at his body of work and that's what I eat.
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Quick body of work, right? The legitimacy of D.
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C is that he's a great fighter.
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Greatest of all time.
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No, no.
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And I would even say that Meo Church is the greatest of all.
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Dunya again I referred Buttress it.
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See, that's the thing that irks me all the time.
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Is why is that everybody? Whether it is in this field.
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Major League Baseball NFL N B A.
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Why is everybody so quick to pass the the greatest of all time? No shame.
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Like like let your career officially end and see where your stats your savory stack up.
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See where you measure measure up and this start talking about to go.
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We We were not talk about Michael Jordan about being the greatest of all time, being the Goat until his career was done and we saw his accolades.
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And then he was dubbed simply the greatest of all time.
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Ric Flair, 16 time world champion.
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We didn't dub him as the greatest of all time until he was done and was pushed off to the side.
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Now he's the greatest of all time.
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Sting was in classified as the icon until his career subsequent started to go away, and that he has known as Icon.
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Sting because of the body of work, will tell you what your career is not by a fan or by a media personality saying that you are, and I agree.
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Justin Mm A needs a criteria check on what is cause of ideas to go and subsequent needs to start with when when somebody's career is legitimately over, where does he measure up? Then start that conversation about to go like to me.
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You can right now say that the go in m m A right now in the UFC Not in Emma May, even though you could probably make a case for it is easily without a question.
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GSP George ST Pierre is one of the greatest off all time.
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Okay, you you could you could double down on that, too.
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Jon Jones regards of what? Hey, he has done in his career outside of the U.
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S.
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C.
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With his his actions for a little over a decade, Sean, this guy has been the most dominant light heavyweight in the history of the game.
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People might see that he lost that last fight against dominant Cruz, and that may be, but he was dominating in his time.
00:25:03
Let's see and effective.
00:25:05
That's another.
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That's another debate for another time, though, because of the fact that when you look at the about, if you're wanted, classify Jon Jones greatest of all time, you can he tarnish his own legacy for multiple use auto brakes.
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I'm telling you, you got you If you want for? It s based on criteria of non USADA or even you saw it.
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I guess you could say that, Justin, but you can.
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You can base the criteria on your stats and what area you were involved in because much like Major league baseball, you still talk about Sammy Sosa has been one of the greatest homeland years of all.
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Still talk about Mark, Mark Pryor and in a steroid era size? Well, they can think of.
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But you emphasize steroid era.
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Yep, in any conversation those two were involved in.
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So if you want to talk about John Jones in an era, I guess you could maybe somehow incorporate him into into a steroid testing era.
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Maybe.
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I mean, it's 50 50.
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It really is, um, but isn't interesting debate? None.
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Unless that I don't think it's going to go away anytime in the near future.
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Not for fans, because you talk about John Jones.
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John Jones, to me overshadowed the fact that D.
00:26:31
C.
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And my coaches had one hell of a fight, and then we subsequently at the end of the night, we weren't talking about that.
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We're talking about that Jon Jones relinquished a title that I swear he relinquished four months ago.
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And then he officially announces he really was.
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Why and then always.
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I love the media, how they play off the fact that as as if we forgot about the fact that John Jones already relinquished his title yet he tweets it out and officially announces it, or the fact that they had a conversation or the fact that they announced Dominick Reyes verse, I believe it's what is.
00:27:12
Block awaits La Bocca Woods.
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They announced that after the first time, Jon Jones announced that he was really cool during his title.
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By way, it's now a go.
00:27:24
Hey, Google, Google it, Google it like Are we seriously? Are we seriously trying to From make sure that the fans don't remember what is going on is you? It's like you're taking a page book trips out of the W.
00:27:39
Yes, let's see how dumb the fans are.
00:27:41
If they still remember, every Digna has transpired in the last two months.
00:27:46
Go ahead. I'll wait.
00:27:49
We knew John Jones had contract issues.
00:27:52
We know he has issues with Dana White.
00:27:55
We know this is still are going.
00:27:57
Do you honestly think that we're going to see John Joseph heavyweight any time soon.
00:28:03
John, honestly, I do not see this happening at all.
00:28:08
At least not this year.
00:28:10
Maybe into early 2020.
00:28:12
Wine mid 2021.
00:28:15
I think we'll see John Jones, but I don't see Jon Jones inside of a cage this year because I don't seek the money is where John Jones wants it to be.
00:28:31
The contract issues that are still there.
00:28:35
I don't see John Jones as much.
00:28:37
Is she saying that he wants to go up to heavyweight, and that's eventually where he's going to land because he's not a light heavyweight anymore.
00:28:47
But, man, I'm trying to figure out how he's gonna put on muscle because he has legs as toothpicks.
00:28:59
Explain to me how he's going to throw a late kick against a guy like Francis and Goneau, who is like 6 ft 4 £250.
00:29:13
And you're right now, maybe about 2 20 and your things were about as big as my water bottle.
00:29:22
How are you going to kick a guy like Francis in Ghana? That is crazy to think about something like that and the thing that always had, like that fight is not going to happy the but the fight isn't gonna happen between Jon Jones and Francis Nagano.
00:29:43
It's just not going to.
00:29:46
Dana White has announced it.
00:29:48
That doesn't make incense.
00:29:50
Nagano is next up against me.
00:29:52
Ohh! We're going to see Number two against that.
00:29:54
Jon Jones is likely to fight.
00:29:56
Maybe the winner of maybe Curtis play on Blades and Derek Lewis.
00:30:00
That would be interesting.
00:30:01
Um, maybe there's another fight in there.
00:30:04
He really wants to send you.
00:30:06
I don't see that fight happening, but Tristen, he's He's put himself in a peculiar situation where it's ****ed if he does, ****ed if he doesn't, he's either going to suck this pride and he's going to do something and he's going to compete or he's not.
00:30:25
Do you realize that if John Jones does show up in in heavyweight division right and is able to get through guys like Derek Lewis like a Rose, a stroke who beat on those Sanyo's if if he could get past guys like Francis and Gano are big guys like that, then we could be honestly talk about probably one of the greatest fighters in the world.
00:30:50
And you, even though he has tarnished his name, Sean, you cannot.
00:30:55
Regardless, when he sits inside that cage, he is the best.
00:31:00
Is you not? So it's gonna be interested to see where John Jones goes If he could get past the big heavyweights, the big bruisers, Because he will have to put on a lot of muscle mass.
00:31:13
A lot of way.
00:31:14
If you feel loses tiuna, Ghana is gonna be by death of a Kale.
00:31:20
He's gonna be another Nagano.
00:31:22
A mean, that's what's gonna happen if he loses to any of the big time heavyweights.
00:31:29
Yeah, uh, it's gonna be interesting for his legacy.
00:31:38
You and legacy tonight? Yes, because we're talking.
00:31:42
We're talking about a interest.
00:31:45
Seaworld right now.
00:31:46
Eight combat sports because of D C retirement CMP Probably probably close to retiring.
00:31:53
When did you say shot? Yeah, Jon Jones.
00:31:57
You mentioned GSP.
00:31:59
So you're talking about these guys that have a lot on the line? Ultimately, Sean, if you're talking about changing the division, changing where it's going, you have to talk about that one word regards of what you think it's going to happen.
00:32:23
Chart.
00:32:24
I guess Onley time will tell What the true outcome off what happened at 2 to 50 to 52 what the future entails with John Jones.
00:32:35
Yep, because it's cloudy right now.
00:32:39
He overshot a body with a chance of meatballs.
00:32:43
There may be meatballs.
00:32:45
You may get here with a meatball.
00:32:47
It may be a virtual meatball who knows on L E. D.
00:32:51
Screen, maybe.
00:32:52
But like the Thunderdome and we're going but also used, like you want to talk about another overshadowing the situation.
00:33:00
D. C. Announces retirement.
00:33:02
Anthony Rumble Johnson says.
00:33:03
I'm back.
00:33:04
Well, he lost.
00:33:05
How did Thomas fall when he lost to D.
00:33:09
C and retire 25th? Couldn't even 2017? Yeah, so now you look at the transition and it's like Holy in, like so.
00:33:22
So DC's out of the picture.
00:33:24
I'll go ahead and Jones is seriously out of the picture, but still, you may end up seeing a rumble versus John Jones Rumbles.
00:33:33
Heavyweight rumbles fighting 205 So again, you talk about the dominos have fallen to this effect, right? John Jones relinquishes the title.
00:33:45
Moves up to heavyweight.
00:33:48
Rumble comes back, D C retires.
00:33:51
Dominic.
00:33:52
It's his title shot.
00:33:55
See how everything kind of plays into a part.
00:33:58
Yeah, is it's good, but I'm just I want to see what 2020 one's gonna look like.
00:34:06
2021 is gonna be interesting once we come out of this pandemic and see where everybody's chips lie, whether it be in combat sports or whether it be in boxing, it doesn't matter.
00:34:18
Chips are going to get interesting.
00:34:21
And it's gonna be unique for the landscape of combat sports to see how how you well, they bring back fans how the fans are gonna adapt to being back in an audience and dropping hundreds thousands and millions of dollars on sports tickets again.
00:34:43
This is this is gonna be on WB rock.
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Yeah, I got the email, Got the notification, and I can rate to burst your bubble.
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It's like it's like watching a balloon floating up.
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And then you try to take a needle and throwing it right through the balloon and walking into pop all over the place.
00:37:28
We will see if you pop my balloon because I got the email So we'll see Seaview popular if you got the email and you actually read it email? I did.
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God forbid you read.
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If you are not, you get past correct.
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Since high frame is 9:30 p.m.
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Eastern time is when you get called up. Yes.
00:38:00
So, um, is that here, like 5 30 give or take? Yes.
00:38:03
So I should be home by the time dove into the specter goes live I will get a link that I will be able to click on and I'll be live on the WB sunder dough.
00:38:21
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Yeah, because if you have a logo on your shirt or anything else, you will be passed over.
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There's a dress code.
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Weird.
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Let me.
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I got the email.
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Me Read it.
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Thank goodness I didn't do that.
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How can you not They signed a double V sign to read his residency with the Amway Center in Orlando and the development production called The Thunderdome.
00:42:12
And many people were trying to figure out, Is it going to be like the Thunderdome in the movie? Welcome to the Thunderdome and I finally saw the official layout of this, and it almost looks like the cage in the thunder.
00:42:26
No, except instead of having fans hanging off the cage, you have these led screens all the way around you crazy, crazy.
00:42:43
And Friday night you'll get to see the debut of the Thunderdome before Summer Slam this weekend.
00:42:53
For two months, they're going to be at the Amway Center with the Thunderdome.
00:43:02
You got Friday.
00:43:03
You got Friday, their debut.
00:43:05
You got an X T take over that will see Pat McAfee Oh, boy versus oh, Adam! Cold baby Did summer slam Do you get Monday night Raw and X t Smackdown! Pay per view. Payback.
00:43:27
Monday night Raw.
00:43:30
It's definitely going to be interesting.
00:43:32
A different take on what we're talking about being the Thunderdome because they're talking about Sean big time productions.
00:43:43
Listen to this.
00:43:44
We'll if you looked at the clip already of the teaser for the Thunderdome.
00:43:49
Dude, they're going all out making sure, like, as in as if this is the rial thing.
00:43:54
But yet the fans air, not their shine the Thunderdome, right? Check this out.
00:44:03
You want to talk about something, Getting you speak for this? Something that was leaked about the Thunderdome was Drew McIntyre's entrance.
00:44:15
Check out Drew McIntyre's entrance.
00:44:20
He will have content on the roof.
00:44:25
You will come out with lasers and pyro and smoke and projections will be on the top of the Thunderdome and the floor of the Thunderdome, and the theme will come out to the finger.
00:44:43
Oh, I don't know what the Fiend Dome is, but I'm curious to see what the fiend omits, right? So already authorities, I could visualize what you Mecca ties is going to be right, and it's it's saying, What did you think about the Fing Dome? Has be very intrigued.
00:45:08
Of course it does causes the fiend.
00:45:12
It could be interesting and definitely raw underground will be at the Amway Center will be brought after.
00:45:20
I guess it's like the after Aftershow or something like that, kind of what they're doing and this is interesting.
00:45:27
Okay, because what was that movie? The boiler room? Do you remember that movie? The boiler room? Yeah.
00:45:36
Don't be Roger on underground will take place in a ba*****t city of the Amway Center.
00:45:45
Where the hell is that, right? I was a wait.
00:45:52
Nobody, nobody raw underground will be raw to the Amway Center and will be put into a face.
00:46:00
Mai.
00:46:01
I still don't know where WB Raw Underground is in the W Performance Center, but it's somewhere it's somewhere in the performance center because they have a smoke machine on the front entrance and the front interest with a bodyguard that has no red rope or anything like that about who can and cannot get in.
00:46:27
But somehow nine.
00:46:29
Jackson **** can't get put in.
00:46:32
But we'll talk about the rot underground here in a minute.
00:46:36
Let's continue to talk about the fact that we're talking about the Thunderdome.
00:46:39
Sean wants me to put something up, and you want to give the premise of what it's roughly gonna look like. Krystle.
00:46:46
Throw it up on the screen here in a second to kind of justify what you're kind of looking in, and it's not a complete dome, Like from the mad Max Thunderdome? Yes.
00:47:00
The concept came from probably Mad Max to Thunderdome, kid in the movie.
00:47:04
100% it did.
00:47:07
So you look at it or let me see what you get.
00:47:09
This one.
00:47:14
So the thunderdome, I want to use this one.
00:47:21
See if I could pull it right here, right in between us.
00:47:28
That's the Thunderdome from the movie Mad Max.
00:47:32
Right.
00:47:33
See how the fades are d****d around the cage.
00:47:36
So to give you some parallel, they're not gonna have all those types of designs through it.
00:47:43
They're just having, uh, like, like pillars coming up and over.
00:47:48
Let's see if I know it's not gonna look like a Thunderdome cage like that does.
00:47:55
But you at least get the concept that you'll have at least like I think, four structure polls roaming around every which way.
00:48:06
See if I could get you guys This kind of to give you an idea. Yeah.
00:48:12
I was gonna pull this up real quick.
00:48:14
Covers up, give you guys an idea.
00:48:20
You so see how there's there's arms.
00:48:25
You'll have the ring circle in the middle will be led screens as well.
00:48:32
But see the arms.
00:48:33
How they kind of go off the sides.
00:48:36
That's your thundered Oh, that's your exit for now.
00:48:40
Those pillars that look like ah against you say, like the Riddler's cane? Yes, Um, or the question mark.
00:48:47
It's facing inward now, not outward. They're facing.
00:48:52
And we're now to make that dome shaped. Correct.
00:48:56
So that's what the Thunderdome is going to look like for DWB with a grip Ton of production with this? Yes, Like a couple years ago, we would never think production like this in wrestling.
00:49:09
It was even possible.
00:49:12
Come the pandemic.
00:49:14
It is possible.
00:49:15
But the question is like, You do all this now.
00:49:19
Are you anticipating the pandemic toe last longer.
00:49:23
And then also, why are you trying to do this now? Why did you wait till now to do this? I think I think we're talking about ratings, I think because Ross ratings WB's ratings are not where they should be.
00:49:42
I think they're kind of grasping that a lot of straws right now, Shawn, and they're trying to figure out what is going to stick.
00:49:48
What is going to be there to give them ratings.
00:49:54
When you think a Thunderdome, you're in medium reaction.
00:49:59
You're intrigued, because what does it look like? Right? B zero b Rex was Roll the thundered Thunderdome.
00:50:05
You're thinking of man mags so immediately? My mind is like, Oh, dude, I got the inside of a cage, right? My media reaction was shoot.
00:50:13
Is it gonna look like the red cage that impact wrestling had those couple of years ago? Yep.
00:50:18
A big dome over a cage.
00:50:21
And I thought, That's what we're going to get Not understanding that the productions called Thunderdome.
00:50:27
And it's kind of a play on the man Max Thunderdome because of the fans aspect and how they haven't layered in.
00:50:36
I get it now he's Then I saw the life footage of it and I showed you, and I was like, That's it, I'm done.
00:50:43
That is dope as hell.
00:50:46
And the interesting thing is that they waited to do it for Smackdown on Fox.
00:50:51
Big time, I guess.
00:50:53
I mean, prime time, big time sought against high players time.
00:50:57
I don't hurting on Fox for ratings wise, and you need that extra boost.
00:51:02
This is gonna be a great way to do it straight up.
00:51:05
So if you guys are available, please.
00:51:07
I watched them to be Smackdown for the Thunderdome.
00:51:10
You're interested in being part of the virtual fan interaction? W dot wwd thunder dome dot com.
00:51:18
And then you could probably get on raw on Monday or he got an X t.
00:51:23
Yeah, well, no NST I What I read was still at full sail, and ah, so nxt takeover will be at at on the thunderdome.
00:51:34
Okay, so it would be interesting next week to see what next three shows will be A will be at the Thunderdome, which is it will be interesting 100%.
00:51:44
I'm interesting.
00:51:46
I'll give for that.
00:51:48
I'm interested to see where? What's the next step for them? Definitely going to be interesting.
00:51:54
But I could I could see the ratings go through the roof because everybody wants to see what the Thunderdome is gonna look like.
00:51:58
Now I'm beginning to wonder if everybody is ready to see Belt or 2 to 44 this weekend.
00:52:04
It because, I mean, there's nothing really intriguing about belt or to 40 for Megan Ryan.
00:52:09
Better Bater comes back.
00:52:11
Yes.
00:52:12
He hasn't defended his title since 2017.
00:52:15
I mean, hasn't funded one tool 56 2017 when it was So How is he going to do as a light heavyweight? How is he going to do as the light heavyweight? Drop him back down after competing at heavyweight? Yeah, he's gonna get to guide a on em cough.
00:52:32
Who is no joke.
00:52:34
Ninth, Keough's has freakish power last time.
00:52:39
Doesn't matter where the fight is, Whether it's standing or on the ground, he'll finish it.
00:52:42
He loves to throw his hand.
00:52:44
Does it matter if he's a wrestler? Because he took on Phil Davis and beat Phil Davison in the in a decision? Yeah, so he can.
00:52:51
He can go against elite wrestlers and secure the bag. Totally.
00:52:56
So I'm not worried about him.
00:52:59
He has strong hands in front of him.
00:53:01
You know what? I'm gonna go out on a limb, Tristan, cough and say name Cop is gonna win this fight.
00:53:06
Ryan, baby tost Tool five.
00:53:08
And Ryan Boehner is gonna try to grapple.
00:53:11
He's a much a better grappler.
00:53:12
I field into a striker.
00:53:14
Yeah, so I think that's what is in favor of baiter in this contest.
00:53:20
But I think that the weapons and name cough has is just far Superior.
00:53:24
I think we will see a new light heavyweight champion for Bela Tor agree at 2 44 and the future is going to be altered a little bit.
00:53:34
And what's your what's your opinion on Julia? But she got Jesse Meal A, and I immediately looked at that, said, Thank you for throwing her a cookie.
00:53:44
And pretty much is it's a softball.
00:53:47
It's basically to get her well, basically, what to get her hurt, get her way back into it.
00:53:53
Yeah, after being off since she lost the cyborg destroyed by sideboard, it's basically to get away and get her ready and tuned up for a rematch against Cyborg.
00:54:03
That's what this is.
00:54:05
Not to take you to take away Jesse Mealy not to take anything away from her, but this is a tuneup fight for Julia.
00:54:12
But who's just gonna grapple where? Opponent down? Take a decision and they go on to compete for a rematch against cyborg.
00:54:21
That's what this is all about.
00:54:22
That's all it is.
00:54:24
And again we see another returning veteran, right? Nelson.
00:54:28
Roy Nelson returns after the guy hasn't won in three years.
00:54:31
He's a name that that's literally all I It's all I did.
00:54:36
I looked at this card, looked at Ryan Elsie and said, How could this flight make sense? And I was like, Well, he's in a He's a name for Valentin Matejovsky valentines gonna walk in there and sorry, I I believe is gonna be Roy Roy Has anything left? No, he's a one trick pony with that big overhand, right? Yeah, you're not coming from a mile away.
00:54:58
And then it's like, Oh, we got a banger.
00:55:02
It's this pump the brakes saying, Let me go ahead and catch up.
00:55:06
I I don't see anything left.
00:55:10
And Roy Nelson, except for having that name being attached to him because he was in the UFC.
00:55:17
He was every way guy.
00:55:19
It fun fights.
00:55:21
But beyond that, Sean, he nothing special right now in Bella tour in the heavyweight division.
00:55:28
I don't know where you go from there.
00:55:30
I don't, but we'll see.
00:55:33
We'll see.
00:55:34
Come on, Delatour to 44.
00:55:38
And then you got to talk about something interesting this past week.
00:55:41
What do yet? So all these MME promotions are trying to figure out how to get the next big thing.
00:55:48
Or how do how to give fans to venues and try to figure out how to get audiences to fight cards.
00:55:57
Well, a UK promotion called Contenders put on their ah, put on a fight Call contenders 30 a k a. The driving.
00:56:07
Oh, yeah, If no, no, go ahead and Google it.
00:56:10
It was cool, because what they did was that it took place at Tougher Ham Hall in Norwich, in which they did it outside, set up a cage with a big sound giant Titan Traum thing behind them with legit commentary and a legit ring announcer inside the cage.
00:56:29
And guess what? You literally drove up to the venue.
00:56:34
And do you know what the view hands were doing that in the car and watched it from the from the Jumbotrons while you turned on to a radio dial and listen to live commentary? Did the frog.
00:56:48
Oh, that is brilliant.
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And the fans that were in the cards were honking horns during the fights.
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