And with that, we welcome you back to another episode of the We Got Nets podcast right here on the Overtime Media Network and your official Brooklyn Nets affiliate on SportsCastr.
And, of course, there will be no howdy friends where howdy indeed, because it is Adam are Brick flying solo on this particular episode as Doug Nori continues to grind away on his MBA coverage.
But we comes on the heels of a big game is.
Everybody knows the Brooklyn Nets are her this, ah, enigma in the bubble.
They have a certain swagger about them there as they defeated the L.
Clippers won, 29 1 20 This is really what happened.
Listening to that they did from the start here.
They came out early.
Obviously, the perimeter shooting was on point for them.
And really, in a lot of ways, it was more of the same that we've seen over these last couple of games in the last few winds.
Inside the bubble for Brooklyn, the movement for Jared Allen up there to the high post utilizing him as a passer has obviously been incredibly effective.
Joe Harris, who on our last episode Doug and I really just could not speak any more highly of in the development of his game, being confident going inside and attacked me at the rim.
That obviously played a factor as well.
And then it was just more Caris Levert doing his thing when you went inside the box, score this, really? You know, you can look over the Clippers side of things and say, Obviously they didn't have Paul George out there for them, but Wilander won 37 minutes, give you 39 points, so he was obviously the big score there.
Morris also gave a nice little 15 points there to go along in his 31 minutes six and nine from the floor.
But at the end of the day on the Brooklyn Nets side of things, it just feels like consistency for them.
25 points from Joe Harris, five of eight from Deep, a 10 of 16 overall in this game.
So that's really where you're starting to see the balance of this.
And last time the dog went inside.
Those season into this season.
Ah, but your absence of the 10 games sample size you would have had for when this season was put on hold back in March.
So you think that these numbers were skewing a little bit higher in terms of what he's doing inside the lane now, those drives and penetrations that you're seeing from Joe Harris? Do you expect those to be their next year when you have Kevin Durant and when you have Kyrie Irving will won't be nearly as necessary, But the fact that he's been able to do it and do it against quality defense's and quality starting units, for the most part is certainly a promising sign.
And I, you know, I think we may have said it last episode.
What it's gonna look like for Joe Harris in this off season in the contract, because just along the lines of players that are locking themselves up to return to their teams, Joe Harris has certainly done that for himself.
It could move from 16 17 and maybe it ends up clean closer to 20 than it is to 16.
And that's okay because that number was going to be in the luxury tax room for the Nets, no matter what.
So there's really nothing stopping from the Nets from bringing back Joe Harris, and this just feels like a really good skill set to whether or not he's being utilized solely in that starting unit or as you start to mix and match with some of your quote bench players.
He's going to be able to flex across there with a nice little bit of fluidity.
One of the other guys that were obviously going to touch on Caris Levert here as well.
But one of the other guys that I was keeping an eye on and highlighted on social media heading into this game, and that was Rudy on screws.
Unfortunately, I don't want to go to footnote here, but this was a little bit of a mixed bag from one standpoint, he basically does what he's been doing, and that's in 31 minutes.
Goes three of six from the field, only one of four from deep.
So you would have liked him.
You know, two of five would've been obviously a sweet spot for him there.
He still gave you five rebounds, though, and he also tacked on another four assists.
So there's a lot of positives from him.
The size and the length we spoke about on the defense event has been a nice quality for him to start to assert a little bit more.
The confidence level is clearly growing for him, but four turnovers here, so relatively speaking, that plus minus.
Not that that's the Endo Beale as the ignore.
It would tell you, minus one just seven points.
If you take away those turnovers, he protected the ball in this game, then I think you'd really like that stat line.
Maybe one more. Three.
Get you into 10.
9 to 11 points in the game, over a sample size.
And again, the rebounding.
The relatively solid defensive effort that he was making came away with another steal in this one, something that he's been doing consistently that now makes seven over the last four games.
So he's putting in the effort.
The results have been coming, and the turnovers have.
Basically, that's basically a blip.
As of right now, we'll see how it plays over these last couple of games, but that's relatively speaking.
You'd like to think that he's got that under control for the most part.
Three turnovers for Joe Harrison, this one as well, but again That's the footnote when you're seeing the kind of shooting performance he puts on our attention on Caris Levert for a minute here.
Because when we go into his numbers now 27 point game here, tennis 17 on two of five from deep again, just confidence, that's what this bubble is all about.
Results can be set aside even though the fact that they're now foreign, too, and maybe have an opportunity to go five and two, maybe even six into and play spoiler to the Portland Trail Blazers in that last game of the bubble, which the trouble is, there's very much may need in order.
Just toe lock into that playing game, with the Spurs nipping at their heels there in the 9th 10th seed over the Western Conference.
What confidence is a bound right now? Jared Allen caress liver, Joe hairs, even crew roots.
And then, as we highlighted last episode, I think no one could be more confident.
Jacques Vaughn, who should be cementing himself a Sfar as the head coach, will be highlighted that last episode and I have ah, a couple other thoughts there as well.
But let's talk about specifically here Caris, Levert and this performance that he's put on here now.
When we go, we go inside these game logs for him.
Now we're getting a layer deeper on consistency right over the last four games.
You can look at that 85 matchup when they played Boston and again, that's the blowout game.
It's cost coming off of the game previously, where they arrested Allan Harris and Laverne.
So maybe just a little bit of not fatigued from playing so much.
But the layoff fatigue, trying to get back into that rhythm.
Take these games, though.
27 points against the Clippers, basically, and there's a full strength but quality defensive unit.
Full strength for the Sacramento Kings.
Not that there defensively, high a***en, but 22 points there.
13 in the blowout against Boston.
But 34 the game prior against Washington, a non defensive team against Orlando, Only 17.
41% from the field there and really struggled from the three point line.
Oh, of four, but he is now putting forward here.
You know, when you think about Kyrie Irving being alongside him next year with Katie out their spacing the floor and with Joe Harris in the corner looking to knock down those three bowls, whether it is DeAndre Jordan again in the starting lineup Or or they fact finally go the route of the we got Nets mantra.
And that's Jared Allen in the starting role.
Caris Levert is gonna have a lot of open space to work with, and he's been pretty committed to that mid range game, something that we've been praising or praised from Kyrie, Irving and just how how easy it is, how easy it was for Kyrie over those 20 games to get into that mid range area.
And it was almost a ah guarantee that he was gonna knock down those shots.
That's important just in terms of keeping pace with your opposition.
But when you go into next year and you've got a guy like cares who absence of a legitimate will say, third scoring out because Harris is also proving himself 27 20 to 34 all these stat lines go back to it when you think all the way back to before that shutdown with 27 23 22 against the Spurs, the Bulls the Lakers before that layoff came.
This becomes a very dynamic offense.
If Caris Levert is going to be able to do this and do this with consistency, when we talk about those field goal percentage is obviously the entire team basically shot out of there out of their heads there.
Against the Clippers, he shot 58 59% for the field, only two of five from beyond the arc.
And that's where is gonna be more selective.
It's not the strongest area of his game, though.
He has been able to step into those on occasion.
He's living in that 44 43% from the field kind of range.
The other factor, of course, to is him getting the line, something that's interestingly enough over these last few games.
He hasn't been doing as much.
But you know what? If we take the step back and I'll have to pick Doug Nori's brain about this, But if we take a step back and think about all the times that we said how often he was getting to the lane, getting some of those easy looks at the line is free buckets you all the way back into March 2012 18 against Boston.
In that win, 1 29 1 20 in overtime.
You don't that type of percentage.
Their earliest opportunity, you would say 67 67 bottled around in that.
And that's arranged their 10 of 13 against Washington a few games ago on the beginning of August, there on the second.
But after that, though, one of 31 of four and then five of eight against the Clippers, there's something about the idea of it's all right to trade off.
You want to go and be attacking towards the basket.
You want to be looking to draw those fouls and get to the line.
But more important than that is that his field goal percentage finds some consistency here because when we go back in over the course of this season, there were some of these up and down kind of numbers, and I mentioned that sample size that we're talking about being safely in the forties from the field, every single one of these games in the bubble.
When you go old the way back to beginning of the year beginning the New Year feels like two years ago at this point with the stoppage, though.
10 to 2050% performance back there against Phoenix.
But up and down.
40 66 30 50 31 36 38 41 35.
These up and down kind of numbers were spiking and falling.
And then the volume of shot selection as well, right? 17 17 20.
You know all these air in that 15 to 20 kind of range in terms of the attempts that he's going to get in order to get these buckets to go down.
When we look over these last handful of games as well, though, the six of 14 performance against Boston and the loss is pretty solid.
We follow it up there.
Let's say the Kings game 9 to 21 you're not gonna get You're not gonna live on that during the during the season when you have Kyrie and you have K D.
And then you're still gonna have Joe Harris defeat and you're still gonna have Alan, You're gonna have DeAndre Jordan working in the middle that you're gonna have Spencer Dinwiddie in that second unit points which will probably be flexing in and across.
So the real curiosity for me or the rial next step you want to see from.
Revert is feasting on a little bit smaller sample size and even though he's still getting pretty much the same volume here in the bubble, what I like coming into this is we kind of assumed that it was going to be the Caris Levert show.
And he's he's he's on the work and he showed up in the statue's time and time again.
But so is Joe Harris, and so has Jared Allen.
And arguably, Jared Allen has been just this evolution of himself as a player.
When we talk about what he's doing in the passing game and how he's helping to be actually a facilitator of that offense, not just a product or byproduct of what other players are doing on the floor.
That's been a riel, not or tip of the cap, not just to the other players on this team, but again back to Jacque Vaughn.
And we can take a look at this now if we want to.
We had said at the time that Kenny Atkinson here is a coach that came in maximize the value out of the players on this roster got everybody to buy in and really was, in most people's eyes, a key contributor to the turnaround in the rebuilding process there in Brooklyn.
That being said, while the layoff probably gave Alan opportunity to work on some things, it's become very evident that Jacque Vaughn looked at this roster and specifically will call quote some of these role players and just understood, understood how to unlock something else about them.
Whether it is Jared Allen and saying, Hey, we're gonna work on what you do out of the high post, we're gonna give you some opportunities to be a facilitator And that's been accentuated here over the bubble.
It's Joe Harris and saying, I see what you've been able to do off the dribble.
Let's go ahead and make that kind of a rolling action throughout the course of 4/4 not something that you end up defaulting to in a situation where play is breaking down.
I have to go inside.
The numbers I wish Doug was here for is a fantastic active researcher when we're doing the podcast episodes.
But if you went back and looked at when Joe Harris was doing the taking these drives to the basket, taking defenders off the dribble.
I think you would find that it's feathering in, especially here in the bubble.
It's feathering in evenly throughout the course of the game, whereas earlier in the season I would say the first thing that he's looking for is to connect from three, and that's always going to be the default.
That's always what you're going to want him to do first.
But you're also seeing the benefit of cheeping a defense off balance and off rhythm in terms of eliminating what the options are going to be for the Brooklyn Nets offense.
Initially, if you're mostly concerned about even with a healthy roster, say of this past season with Kyrie there, you're worried about Joe Harris running like a madman, finding himself some open looks in the corner at the top of the key on the wings, wherever it may be, and trying to get his rhythm from deep.
Now, though, if you have to consider the idea that Joe Harris is going to potentially drive on you, it's gonna make you sag defensively and stay.
Maybe at home a little bit more.
You're going to potentially have a couple of bigs that are hedging their bets and trying to offer some of that help defense.
Should Joe go that route and by keeping defenders offer you, it allows Jota, maybe have the opportunity still pull up for a three and then also look for some of those cutters in behind.
And we mentioned this going back to games to the King's matchup where Joe Harrison Jared Allen had a great rhythm with one another.
So there was There was this consistency off, dishing it off to Alan closer to the high post and then a backdoor cut from Joe Harris and Alan being ready to redistribute back over to him, Get that ball rolling a little bit earlier in some of these contests and then later in the game.
It just opens up a lot more options, not just for himself but also for the rest of the team.
So that's been an area that I've really been high on, and I'm looking forward to seeing how that of bowls when you get a Kyrie when you get a K d back out there, that that's the one aspect that I think has been fantastic from job phone.
I think that he's unlocked, that we highlighted about Alan.
The other thing is that we were mentioning that I mentioned before is Caris Levert and saying it has to be his show in the bubble.
That's what we assumed.
But Jack won't seem tohave that that mindset of No, it doesn't.
We're gonna work our system.
We're gonna work our sets.
We're gonna understand that we have Tyler Johnson, who has been up and down and has been better of over the last couple of games than he was kind of those middle sets where he just seemed a little muddled.
And you're gonna get the results you expected.
Ah, but you saw it when he used Lance Thomas for a couple of games there and then decided, Yeah, that's not working.
Let's move away from it.
But John Cohen seems very confident in the system that he wants to run the way he wanted.
You wants to utilize his players and trusting that the results are going to come.
We don't do a lot of the quote piece here on on the podcast, for the most part, but here's what the result is of that type of buying from the players.
You have care silver coming out and saying We know they're really good teams Speaking about the Toronto Raptors, this is projecting to the net being locked into that seven seed in the first round match up with the Toronto Raptors.
We know they're a really good team.
Obviously, they're playing good basketball.
They move the ball really well.
They're a great defensive team as well.
But for us we feel like it's about us.
If we move the ball well, if we play good defense, if we're locked into the game plan, we can win that.
In that sense, we truly believe that.
So we're going into that playoff match up all the way locked in.
We talked about it before here, Um, and arguably we've been proven wrong a couple of times.
Doug was obviously gracious in defeat when we talked about how many games we thought that the team was going to win down there in the bubble.
We've also talked about the playoffs and what the expectation should be a lot of different pieces.
They go to that match up against the 70 Sixers they steal one game in that Siri's.
And that was a feather in the cap of Kenny Atkinson in that roster at the time coming into this playoff series, Listen, there's no way that you're going to get me to say, Watch out Toronto.
The Nets can take you, but that first game and that 1st 10 minutes of the first quarter when you gets around one are going to be very interesting to watch.
Because if they conduce, do as ah, Doc Rivers alluded to in his post game comments as well.
If you can do what you did against the Clippers, which is knock down, shoot, lights out, shoot percentages that no one has any business pulling out of their hat.
But if you can get out to an early lead out to a 10 15 and then the ultimate 21 point lead at one point along the way there a stock, Rivers admitted, that's hard to come back from.
It doesn't matter how good you are offensively, It's a difficult hole to dig yourself, Adam, and we know the MBA is a league of runs, and certainly in those playoffs when you think about Lowry and see Jacome and Soul and then Fleet and on a low B and all the fantastic cast of characters.
And also Nick Nurse, who's done as good a job as anybody inside this bubble coaching.
You don't anticipate them falling behind like that, and you don't necessarily anticipate the Nets having that type of consistency in their shooting.
But they're proving that anything's possible here.
They beat the Lakers before the shutdown.
They beat the Milwaukee Bucks in the bubble, led them by eight at the end of the first half when they were put playing full strength absence of PG obviously against the Clippers.
But they got that w as well, so there's something to be said for whatever they're selling.
Bonus selling to this team.
There is 100% by in.
Crawford came out and was also speaking glowingly in spite of the fact that hasn't been on the court.
But he has been speaking glowingly about Jack phone.
One of the concerns that I do have, as Sean Marks acknowledged over the course of this entire process that K D is going to be a very vocal and rightfully so voice in the decision making process around the head coach.
We know as much because they moved on from Kenny Atkinson and now again we can.
We can look back and realize what's happening in the bubble and Judge Kenny Atkinson off of that to some extent.
But man, if Katie or or Kyrie comes out and says We prefer Thai Lou if you're Kyrie.
There's been some whispers that Katie is fond of Mark Jackson, and it's not even it's on a knock on them or taking away from what their coaching Tanner to see would be.
Jacque Vaughn is on everything right.
There's literally nothing that you could look at here and say he hasn't done everything checked every box that you could have possibly laid out for him in order to go into this very brief offseason.
That after the playoffs complete will only be a month and from the next standpoint could be a bit longer.
But to try to transition away from a guy who has had the kind of success that he has had, I think it's the third best record to start his coaching career in Nets franchise history.
I think you'd be doing a disservice to the current players on the roster that are working in the bubble right now and then to the supporting cast that you're gonna wanna have behind Kyrie and Katie.
Because you can go ahead and put those players out there and understand you're going to get naturally what they do for you on the offensive end.
But to use a Doug Nugget here in the margins is where you're gonna win or lose games and getting the hustle plays defensively, getting those extra efforts on the offensive boards as well.
Those are the things that help you when not just during the regular season to specifically in the playoffs.
You're going to need that from from this team in order to go to the Eastern Conference finals to the MBA files and ultimately try to win it right.
It's going to take a little bit more than just Kyrie and K d, and then a cast of whoever.
I think I I think that they have all the components right now on this roster, and that extends all the way down to Garrett.
Temple has been a great veteran presence for this team in the bubble as well.
It's all in place here.
Now it's just about trusting that the rebuild process has led you to a head coach like Jack on, and he deserves the opportunity to go into next season and lead this team hopefully on a deep playoff run.
The last thing that will take a look at here just to tie a bow on what wasn't insane game against the L. A Clippers.
And that's to go inside the stats here a bit.
When when you look at these games, usually there's always something that stands out is glare.
You talk about field goal percentage, 55% obviously solid number from Brooklyn, but 48% for the Clippers.
And by the way, the Nets did it on just 85 shot attempts from the field.
So actually had H ate less shots than the Clippers.
But hit it at such a better rate.
Now the three point shooting.
That's the easy one to hang your hat on, knock down seven more threes than the L.
Clippers didn't have contest hit a 46.
5% clip, so that didn't hurt anyone at all.
But But then again, some of that I mean, that's really probably easiest ones.
Give me three point shooting because the foul, the foul line numbers 15 and 19 for the Nets, 17 of 20.
So rate there side by side in terms of opportunities and a better percentage.
Even for the Clippers.
The other one that I really thought was interesting was the turnovers.
The Clippers were plus six in the turnover margin, 16 to 10.
So normally turnovers lead to opportunities there.
But what I found interesting in that regard is we can also highlight the steals 5 to 8 in favor of the Clippers.
We can talk about the assist numbers, which is a tenant of the Brooklyn Nets under this new regime.
32 assists on the 47 made field goals, which is absolutely fantastic.
But the bigger number for me then, was also the points off turnovers, because even though the Nets committed 16 turnovers in this game, the actual points off of those turnovers look starkly different.
We're gonna go ahead.
Just get those pulled up here momentarily and see if we can just outline those for you real quick.
And then really, we're gonna get the door here, man.
It's just This is a great time to be a next man.
That's the bottom line here.
But I want to clean up this stat line here if I can, because it and really spoke volumes to me about again.
You want to talk about Jacque Vaughn? You want talk about a team that needs toe win in the margins? This is what it is when you think about it.
So give me one second.
Here is we get the stat lines up, Actually, maybe may even be able to pull it up from a secondary source here.
Okay, So when we take a look at those points off of turnovers as I mentioned 16 to 10 in favor of the L A Clippers on the turnover battle so plus six in that margin.
However, on those 10 turnovers, the Nets converted that into 22 points, while the Clippers were able to Onley create 11 points off of the 16 turnovers by Brooklyn.
So there's a those of those couple of key areas where even though you're losing the turnover battle, your capitalizing on turnovers from your opposition, whereas they're unable to do so, you can bind.
That was obviously the 55% from the field and obviously the enormous percentage from beyond the arc willing to live and die by that to some extent.
But listen, energy, effort, focus, determination, drive All of those kind of things you want to point to.
There's there's no way that you're gonna take away any of this stuff, any of the results that we're getting here from Brooklyn inside this bubble because they've done everything right and you're gonna come up against Orlando.
It'll be interesting to see here.
We'll take a brief look ahead.
Obviously, the Orlando matchup.
They're locked in the seven seed.
The Nets are Orlando's have anything to play for that a c.
They have some injury concerns coming over the last couple of games.
I wonder if the Nets may choose to rest caress and Allen and Joe Harris in this game and then try to get them really as tuned in as possible in that final game.
That will be on Thursday night against the Portland Trail Blazers.
It could be incredibly important for the Trail Blazers and locking into that playing game, and if so, the Nets could again give themselves an opportunity to get a big win against a team that on paper you have no business hanging with and then ultimately possibly bounced about in place spoilers in some way.
So coming out of this bubble and going into the playoffs, you're going to have a lot of things for Brooklyn's.
Hang their hat on the the evolution of Jared Allen's game, the consistency of Caris, Levert and of Joe Harris and then also some of these big wins.
You're gonna look back at the bubble going into next year and say, Remember, we took down the Milwaukee Bucks.
We took down the Lakers before the shutdown.
We took down the L.
We were able to maybe pick off the Portland Trail Blazers in a crucial must win game for them and then go into that playoff series and see what happens against Toronto.
May be able to steal a game or possibly fingers crossed.
We'll dive into that mawr on the next episode.
Obviously, we won't belabor here anymore.
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This is never easy to do when you're flying solo on the podcast.
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Blazers will talk probably little bit big picture stuff as far as how the Western Conference is shaking out and just some of the things that we've seen.
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We're going to see how it pans out.
Doug, An incredibly busy guy.
But that being the case, you can follow me right here tomorrow.
I'll be putting up the schedule after I finish up this episode here that you go to tune in right there at the one hour we'll watch that game.
We'll see if some of these guys we're gonna start like Alan like liver like Harris.
And, if not, still gonna be able to maybe hone in once again on TLC, who had a lot of foul troubles in this past game on rodeo unscrew groups who needs to have a bounce back game in terms of protecting the bull.
But some of the other role players, right? Anderson got a few minutes share their in this past game is well, liked what we saw from him.
What about whole? Will he get a chance after that bad game against the Kings? They're trying to get himself back on track.
Ah, and then listen.
Shows is a guy worth keeping it on as well didn't touch on him over the podcast recording, but certainly a worthwhile one to keep an eye on him as you continue to try to carve out this role and you just wonder Big picture.
What's that going to mean for him? But in the short term, what is it gonna look like for the Nets going to that playoff series against the Toronto Raptors, where, by the way, will be pretty set up because it's going to be him? Being on the take on acai Larry or a Fred Van Fleet doesn't mean he's gonna have tremendous success, but from a size standpoint, a little bit friendlier matchup for him there in that one, which what is what makes blocking in that seven seed all that much more important That'll do it for us friends right here on the we got in its podcast on Sports Catherine, your official affiliate for all things Brooklyn Nets.
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