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00:00:01
Well, it looks like we're up and running.
00:00:03
What's going on, everybody? My name is Joe new beau, and that's right.
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Your eyes are not deceiving you.
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It is the we don't have a name.
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I mean.
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Well, SportsCastr news, of course.
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But I was trying to give us a nickname.
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You know, like a fabulous foursome.
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But it's not a foursome, so I don't know, whatever, but anyone.
00:00:21
Drastic three defense. Sure.
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I mean, it doesn't make sure you go. Sure.
00:00:26
I mean, that works for now.
00:00:29
But as you could see, raise finally back from his vacation.
00:00:33
Um, you know, I'm sure he enjoyed himself.
00:00:35
But now it's time to get back to real life.
00:00:38
And right now it's time to talk some football race.
00:00:41
So are you ready? Hey, what's that sound? Sounds very excited to be back.
00:00:50
Okay, So, guys, Dallas Cowboys again.
00:00:56
But this time we're talking about some comments that Amari Cooper made, and he basically said that he expects this receiving court, you know, obviously Amari Cooper himself, Michael Gallup and Ricky cd lamb toe all go for over 1000 yards.
00:01:10
Now, if there's a trio that you would probably put money down that it could happen to, I would say, You know, it wouldn't be too crazy to say that the Cowboys trio could do it.
00:01:21
If you're gonna make a bet which receiving trio would do it this year, I don't think the Cowboys would be a bad choice, right.
00:01:28
But I I mean, I don't know, man, How are we feeling about this? I, you know, I have the numbers pulled up that we can dive a lot deeper into.
00:01:36
But I want to get your initial impressions off of this.
00:01:39
And why don't we start with the man that had a long time to rest? He's back.
00:01:44
Let's hear what you got.
00:01:46
Nothing better than coming back from vacation and talking about the Dallas Cowboys again.
00:01:50
Um, listen, if you said to me what two teams or what three teams do you think could have 1000 yard receivers? I would tell you the Kansas City Chiefs probably have the best chance, even though it wouldn't be a trio of receivers and be Travis Kelsey in the mix.
00:02:07
And if you put a gun in my head and forced me to talk about another team, I might say the Dallas Cowboys.
00:02:13
I could maybe say the Buccaneers, um, but I don't think that I think the Chiefs of the only team that are equipped this year to do that, Um, when you look at the Dallas Cowboys now, look, we haven't seen them in a Mike McCarthy offense yet.
00:02:28
We know he likes to air out the football, but it's also a team that has Ezekiel Elliott and Mike McCarthy.
00:02:35
Never had a running back of Ezekiel Elliott's a caliber while he was the coach of the Green Bay Packers, so I could see him executing the run a little bit more.
00:02:44
Ah, the tight ends are weak on Dallas, so it would have to come down to that trio.
00:02:51
I like CD lamb.
00:02:52
I've been very complimentary to see the lamb, but see the Lamb is not Randy Moss.
00:02:56
CD Lamp is not gonna catch 1000 yards in his first season.
00:02:59
I think it's unrealistic from Ari Cooper to even suggest that and put any kind of pressure on the poor kid.
00:03:06
Um, I like Michael Gallup.
00:03:09
I think that he's a good sort of flanker receiver, but I think the only 1000 yard receiver they're gonna have when that seems Amari Cooper, and it doesn't matter of Dax told them the football or or adult and storing them in full.
00:03:24
Go, Let me.
00:03:25
I just wanted to throw this out there just so people understand how hard it is to get a trio of 3000 yard receivers.
00:03:31
It's only happened five times in NFL history, and I have it right here.
00:03:36
1980 I guess.
00:03:37
The San Diego Chargers, 1989 Washington 1995 Atlanta Falcons 2000 for Indianapolis Colts with Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne and Brandon Stokley there and then in 2008 Arizona.
00:03:52
Larry Fitzgerald, Anquan Boldin and Steve Breast.
00:03:56
And so Lawrence.
00:03:58
And I mean, you gotta throw in two.
00:04:00
In 2000 and seven, the Patriots broke almost every receiving record in the NFL, and they didn't have a trio of 380 1000 yard receivers.
00:04:10
True? Yeah, it is incredibly difficult on me.
00:04:14
That the four team was for the Colts was absolutely stacked right, And just like you said with the Patriots, they had a stack offense, especially passing the football breaking records like crazy, and I'm I'm sorry, but you're right.
00:04:33
Usually rookie wide receivers don't break at 1000 yards.
00:04:39
Even if there stud receivers, they generally don't break $1000 a rookie year.
00:04:43
You're lucky to get one or two a season to do that.
00:04:46
And it doesn't necessarily mean that.
00:04:49
Ah, common thing that happened either.
00:04:51
I mean, that things could fill it.
00:04:53
You know, someone else will end up being that 1000 yards next year from that saying draft class and that person that had 1000 yards just drop off.
00:05:02
Yeah, well, we have a lot to do with the team chemistry And how their bill and the persons owning the football? Obviously, Um, no, I just I like cd lamb. I like.
00:05:16
I like him as a receiver coming out.
00:05:18
He may be the best receiver that came out in this draft, to be honest with you.
00:05:22
Um, but I agree with Ray.
00:05:27
Uh, they just got they got a good run game, and I think they're gonna in one piece, break that.
00:05:37
It's gonna be difficult.
00:05:38
It's gonna be incredibly difficult now.
00:05:40
Will nd broke that 3000 yards.
00:05:42
Edgerrin James, I think, had 1500 yards rushing back season.
00:05:46
Yeah, so I mean, that was That would be the type of year that the Cowboys would need to have righteous it.
00:05:53
Yes, it looks.
00:05:55
It's one of those situations where everything has to go right for the Cowboys.
00:06:00
And when was the last time that happened? It's like, you know you can't stop the run, so you go to the past and you're catching the team Daugaard because they can't stop the run.
00:06:10
So now, now they're trying to stop the run, and now it's easy to pass on him.
00:06:15
Then you back off to try to stop the past.
00:06:17
You just run it down their throats again.
00:06:18
Just keep going back and forth.
00:06:20
Everything has to go, right.
00:06:21
Dallas never has anything going right.
00:06:23
They had an outstanding team last year, minus CD last year and still finished What? Eight.
00:06:32
You know, Uh, yes, Dad had a total numbers.
00:06:36
Cooper, in this time with the Cowboys, had a turn in numbers, but I just I don't see it mainly mainly because look at the teams that they're gonna have to play against the defense is that they play against right.
00:06:52
That's also a big situation then, and it had that kind of defense that they had to play against.
00:06:58
And I'd also like to throw out that in 2000 and four.
00:07:02
Did Indianapolis not also still of Dallas, Clark and Woollard? Is there tight ends Yuri mean, which it That's quite an upgrade when you look at um, Blake Jar win and Dalton Schultz for her, the Dallas Cowboys.
00:07:20
Um and yeah, I mean, Zeke had 1300 yards and rushing last year, and he would probably have to get an extra 300 to really put the kind of pressure for three guys to hit 1000 yards.
00:07:32
I mean, I think Marty's crazy.
00:07:34
Let's also not forget that a Mark Cooper got shut out an entire game last season.
00:07:39
You know, um, I think the fact if Zeke, since Zeke is Justus presence alone, he needs to get his touches right.
00:07:49
You need to give him his touches.
00:07:50
And, like you said, he hasn't rushed for under 1300 yards.
00:07:54
There was only that one season where he was suspended for the 1st 6 games, right, But aside from that, he's always been 1300 yards plus on the ground.
00:08:01
So you need to feed Zeke, and I'm afraid that these receivers.
00:08:06
I mean, they're just not going to get all the opportunities and look.
00:08:10
Even last year, Amari Cooper just hit shy over 1100 yards.
00:08:14
It's not like this guy had 1800 yards, and it's not like there was yardage just spread around.
00:08:20
Also, another concern that I have is that Michael Gallup had drop issues.
00:08:25
So if you can't fix that, I mean, you can't really count on him to be 1000 yard receiver, either.
00:08:31
Yeah.
00:08:32
I mean, I don't want to be this guy, but are we really expecting Michael Gallup to be a consistent 1000 yard receiver like he? That's never really to me.
00:08:42
Has never been that guy.
00:08:43
That's going to be consistently 1000 yards.
00:08:45
You got it. I think you got 1000 yards last year.
00:08:47
Did he not? Michael, go.
00:08:48
I have this steps up here.
00:08:49
Yeah, he had just over 1100 as well, 11 7 I mean, and it's but his catch percentages so bad.
00:08:59
I mean, last season, 58.
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4% in his rookie season, 48.5.
00:09:05
So I mean again, he's eight, that he was eighth in the league amongst receivers and drops last year.
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Eighth, I thought he was a lot higher than that.
00:09:15
See, like I just did a breakdown that you're sorry story? No, he was first with 11.
00:09:20
My bad property was 9.8.
00:09:23
Yeah, I've seen I've seen Deck.
00:09:25
I've watched his games.
00:09:28
I broke his games down and he had 4900 yards passing last year.
00:09:34
And I bet you he left 150 on the field in just one single game because and he threw for like, 400 yards that game.
00:09:44
But because he was throwing so badly toe wide, open, wide receivers, they would have to catch the football and go down immediately because they had they just a route so drastically, you know, or reach behind them when they're wide open.
00:09:58
Slow down, turn around, catch the football out.
00:10:01
Allowed defenders to catch up to him Had he been accurate, I think last year he could have, he could have ran for ah record, you know, throwing the football and I'm not seeing I'm not seeing that getting better when it comes to leading a receiver.
00:10:20
Accuracy throwing them open and said it throwing to an open receiver great it finding the open receiver, but he's not good at throwing them and keeping them open when he throws the football.
00:10:31
And I think even if he's throwing to the open receiver, let's go back to Michael Gallup for second just because that's what we're on and was looking at his numbers.
00:10:38
Um, so one of my new favorite stats is called The True Catch reading.
00:10:41
And what it does is it divides the number of targets, two catchable balls and the Bulls that you catch hits 71.7%.
00:10:50
He was 102nd in the NFL for a true catch rating.
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That means balls that should have been caught.
00:10:58
He caught 71% of catchable footballs.
00:11:02
You know, those were perfect will catchable balls.
00:11:04
I mean, e mean if that guy improves at the 1500 yard receiver, Sure, but again, I've never seen Michael Gallup is a consistent 1000 yard guy.
00:11:14
Um, I'm a fan of Michael Gallup.
00:11:16
Um, good Colorado kid.
00:11:18
You heard? I mean, but it's and then again, I don't away from Dak Lee from everybody.
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It's to put that kind of pressure on CD.
00:11:26
Lamb is insane.
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and on top of that to put him in 88 as well.
00:11:30
But, I mean, that's that was an old topic that we already discussed.
00:11:33
So, uh, did you guys want to hear about the trio that had at least 900 receiving yards? Because that's a little less of an exclusive club.
00:11:42
But let me just say from the top, I don't even think that they could break that.
00:11:47
I don't even think that they could break 900 each who were the 900 to 900? All right, so we got New England on here three times, actually, 1994 with Ben Coates, Michael Timpson and Vincent Brisby.
00:12:01
But they were also in 2011 with Wes Welker, Gronk and Aaron Hernandez.
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Um and then in 2014 with Edelman, Gronk and Brandon LaFell.
00:12:14
Really? Yep.
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Brandon LaFell had 980 9 53 yacht, even not even the season where they had Moss.
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And that was 50 type that owns and all that.
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I know because I would have been just him and Wes Welker.
00:12:28
So there was also Oakland in 2000 to Jerry Rice, Charlie Garner and Tim Brown That was our Super Bowl year, right? When the last.
00:12:38
Yep. Obey? I think so.
00:12:40
I think so.
00:12:41
You have Dallas, Um, in 2012 Jason Witten, Dez and Miles Austin.
00:12:47
I remember that year.
00:12:48
Um, I do to what a disappointment Miles Austin turned into right. Right.
00:12:53
New Orleans in 2012 as well.
00:12:55
Jimmy Graham marquees Colston and Lance More all had at least 900.
00:13:00
And then the last time this happened was actually this past season in 2019.
00:13:04
And can you guess who it was? Baltimore.
00:13:07
Because it sounds stupid like that.
00:13:09
Kansas City has be Kansas City, you know.
00:13:11
No, you have a guess, Lawrence.
00:13:17
Ah makes sense when you hear it.
00:13:21
It will make sense, but it's it's kind of hard to think about New Orleans.
00:13:25
No.
00:13:26
Is that can you give me is a native steer NFC A F C A F C U C buffalo.
00:13:32
And there's going to be something stupid.
00:13:34
Like the bills.
00:13:35
No.
00:13:36
I mean, is it always that Cleveland? No, no, no.
00:13:39
Who you're gonna tell you? The division? Yeah, I guess.
00:13:42
The Division A f C West.
00:13:45
And it's not the Chiefs Chargers Yep. In that hospital.
00:13:49
Chargers? Yep.
00:13:50
That's it.
00:13:51
Keenan Allen Austin, eh? Killer and Mike Williams.
00:13:53
So there you go. Make sense.
00:13:57
The dozen doesn't all at the same time.
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Right? S.
00:14:00
So I thought that was pretty fun, but yeah.
00:14:03
I mean, I don't know.
00:14:04
Do do we think that they could even break 900? No, I can't put that on CD Lamb.
00:14:09
I'm expecting 600 yards out of him.
00:14:10
And it's nothing to do with him as receivers.
00:14:12
A rookie right there.
00:14:14
He's going to go up against some savvy cornerbacks who know how to be this speed.
00:14:17
Right, that they're going to get physical with him.
00:14:20
Um, one of the knocks on him is he's gotta put a little bit of weight on especially muscle weight.
00:14:24
You what? I mean, and it's again.
00:14:26
It's no knock on CD land.
00:14:28
Maybe next year we could have the same conversation next year.
00:14:30
And maybe I changed my mind.
00:14:32
Set all three go. 900.
00:14:33
I just don't see CD lamb to a 900 yards receipt receiving this year.
00:14:37
Okay, Fair enough.
00:14:39
Um, so actually also brought up just passes dropped as a team.
00:14:44
I thought that if you guys wanted to hear this.
00:14:46
Um, number one is the Miami Dolphins with 28 1 Yeah, Number two is actually the Bills with 26.
00:14:56
Number three.
00:14:57
You got the Bears with 25 shadow to Travis Key.
00:15:01
And then at number four, it's the Dallas Cowboys with 24.
00:15:05
So I mean, top five and drops.
00:15:08
And then can you guess who number five was doing great? Yep. New.
00:15:13
So why was 24 in Tony for and Story and Michael Catholic at 11? Right? Crazy cells? So if they can't fix that issue, I mean this 900 yards isn't even an option.
00:15:27
Seriously, you know.
00:15:30
So they had 19 drops between.
00:15:33
They're two top receivers between Amari Cooper and Michael Gallup.
00:15:39
Yeah, there you go.
00:15:41
Used well, what's considered a drop.
00:15:44
If you get both hands on it, that's a drop.
00:15:47
It's a catchable football.
00:15:48
Any ball that's deemed a catchable football that gets dropped, its got hit your hands.
00:15:53
But what about like if you're running around and the ball's thrown way behind you and you like slowing down and reaching back and you get your both your hands on it.
00:16:02
But it goes through your hands.
00:16:03
That's not a That's not a drop.
00:16:05
A drop is ah, clean.
00:16:08
I looked this up, the other not long to go to figure this out because arguing with somebody about the same thing because I thought it was like that.
00:16:14
I thought that receivers get punished like a quarterback.
00:16:17
It's punished for an interception if it bounces out of the guy's hands.
00:16:20
Uh, no.
00:16:21
A drop passes deemed a catchable football.
00:16:24
So anything, even a cat some catches that get made aren't deemed catchable.
00:16:28
Balls like balls behind guys that they reach back.
00:16:30
They're not Dean Catchable footballs.
00:16:32
They actually, they actually count those that catches that were uncatchable snow.
00:16:36
It's a catchable ball that was, you know, in the hands or in the in an area that should have been caught.
00:16:41
High percentage catches.
00:16:42
That's what the battles.
00:16:43
So if he's 11 drop, he could have like 20 drops.
00:16:47
When you put in the other, you know, tougher catches, which are easy catches, right? Yeah, that's a thing.
00:16:53
And that's look the difference between an elite receiver and a very good receiver are The guys who make the catch is you're not very good receiver in a good receiver and I put Michael Gallup in a good category is the guys who make the catch is that they're supposed to make right.
00:17:13
Randy Moss is an elite level guy because he makes the one handed Is this and that? I think.
00:17:17
And in a sense, Odell Beckham Jr can be considered an elite with some of the catch is that he can make.
00:17:23
Yeah, he's got some drop issues as well, which I think takes him out of the elite category.
00:17:27
To be honest with you, even I think he is elite talent.
00:17:29
He just hasn't mentally showed he's an elite receiver yet.
00:17:32
Um, but like that's the difference to me.
00:17:34
And that's why Michael Gallup, to me, is a good receiver, because, yeah, he's gonna make the catch is he needs to make and he's fast is hell.
00:17:41
And when you're number two to Amari Cooper, it's going to give you opportunity to catch the football.
00:17:46
But you can't have 11 drops, you know.
00:17:49
I mean, you know, that's just that's pathetic.
00:17:52
It's like PR phone.
00:17:54
Uh, he went great at making stupid catches, but if you threw the ball right between the numbers.
00:18:00
You know that I percent chance he's going to drop the sucker, man.
00:18:04
I mean, but yeah, uh, sometimes you have those kind of players, and sometimes sometimes those players quarterbacks have gotta have it in their head.
00:18:13
Okay, so I can't throw it right between the numbers.
00:18:15
I'm gonna throw it over here, you know? So I don't know if this is a little bit of a hot take, but I'm gonna say it anyway, because that's what I do.
00:18:25
I just always thought Amari Cooper was a little overrated.
00:18:28
Men, in my opinion, like I don't think he's a bad receiver, but I don't think he's like top talent elite level that a lot of people make him out to be.
00:18:36
I definitely don't put him in top five.
00:18:38
I know a lot of people that do.
00:18:40
I don't.
00:18:41
Yeah, um, if this would have been prior to last season, this would have been one of those times that I You know, Joe, you're full of crap.
00:18:49
I didn't really compile it that high.
00:18:51
I'll go by the eye test on this one.
00:18:53
I mean, we've looked at all the numbers.
00:18:54
We know what it is.
00:18:55
I'll go by the eye test on this one.
00:18:57
I watched.
00:18:58
Um, Stefan Gilmore covered DeAndre Hopkins.
00:19:01
I watched him cover brown and buffalo.
00:19:04
You mean in and not even though they just best him at times you saw an actual good battle between, you know, to meet a receiver and cornerback.
00:19:15
There was no battle between Amari Cooper.
00:19:20
Um, like I said, my biggest laugh of that is Gilmore had more touches off ADAC than the Mari did, you know, And to me, that was, like from an eye test.
00:19:28
That was one of the telling signs of like, Okay, you know, I mean, like, I watched good receivers give Hopkins problems even when he has won the battle.
00:19:38
I've seen the problems.
00:19:39
There was zero problem of the Marquis Cooper, so I kind of agree that I think I don't think he's a battery.
00:19:44
See, providing means.
00:19:45
But I think there is a little bit of an over rate and overrating their I mean, there's a reason that group wanted to get rid of them, right? Like it's a little I've been make chicken blood's brings up a good point, only complain at home.
00:19:56
That's true.
00:19:57
Even I mean everybody said he disappeared on the road last year.
00:20:00
I just always thought he was a little soft to me.
00:20:03
You know, he's just a little, I don't know.
00:20:05
That's just how I felt.
00:20:07
I think Cooper is a really, really good route runner.
00:20:11
Yeah, I think he can catch the football.
00:20:14
I think his problem is that he has an issue of not wanting to get hit with.
00:20:25
The ball gets there latches problem.
00:20:29
So apiece wide open.
00:20:31
You know, if he knows he's got to step on a guy or knows that he's not going to get hit with, the ball gets there.
00:20:36
You're not going to see an issue with him catching the football.
00:20:39
But if he has got a defender d****d over the top of it, that's where the issue he's got good.
00:20:46
He's got good ability to use his route running and size and speed in order to get his separation.
00:20:55
But if he does not get that separation, don't throw him the football.
00:20:59
Yeah, that is not what he's not talking right? Exactly, and that's that's the type of receiver I like.
00:21:06
I've always said Hopkins is my number one receiver in the league because this man just catches everything and he produces even when he has crafted quarterback.
00:21:15
Right? I I think Amari Cooper has to be in the perfect situation.
00:21:19
It has to be against zone like MK chicken blobs says Create separation with routing Matt.
00:21:24
Men will shut him down. I agree with that.
00:21:26
I think that Amari Cooper is just not physical.
00:21:28
He's not gonna fight the corners, man.
00:21:30
If he gets outmuscled, you know, he kind of gets should town.
00:21:34
In my opinion, Yeah, and you guys kind of took the words out of my mouth.
00:21:37
Now I will make the cowboy argument.
00:21:40
Right now, people are going to turn around and say He was 13th in the league and contested catches 48%.
00:21:46
No, those air high thrown footballs and Amari Cooper is eight feet tall.
00:21:52
It in conjunction really high.
00:21:54
That's contested catches two guys jumping up over a football.
00:21:57
That's nothing to with physicality.
00:21:59
You want to talk about how well he doesn't zone compared demand a man, the average passing route.
00:22:06
So when they throw him, the football is 2.
00:22:09
6 yards off the line of scrimmage.
00:22:11
That was his average catch off a Dak Prescott 2.
00:22:14
6 yards off the line of scrimmage.
00:22:17
That just shows you how well he can dominate man or a dominate zone and can pick up eight yards before anybody can get to him, then can use the speed to get by.
00:22:27
Um, man to man will kill him because a 2.
00:22:31
6 he's still getting he's still getting rubbed at 2.
00:22:33
6 yards out the line of scrimmage.
00:22:36
Okay, so there you go.
00:22:38
I'm surprised we all agree.
00:22:39
I thought we were all going to get into a little bit of an argument here, but I'm glad I like the talent on the Cowboys.
00:22:45
I think that they could have an absolutely outstanding season, but 3 1000 yard receivers.
00:22:54
It's just so hard to do and everything. It's gotta be.
00:22:57
No, if that on point, if there is a receiver on the Cowboys that I do like his physicality, it CD lamb.
00:23:02
I mean, this guy, he was my favorite receiver coming out this past season.
00:23:06
I know a lot of people love Jerry Judy because of his route running, and obviously you know that's a good quality to have.
00:23:11
But CD just breaks, tackles men.
00:23:14
He's physical, you know? Like I look, that's the style of play I love.
00:23:17
Maybe it's because I'm a Ravens fan, but I know it's You know what CD Lamb was right on the top of my The Patriots won't take him.
00:23:25
But, God, I wish they would. You know me.
00:23:27
Because any time I have a guy at the top of my draft board, I just know it's not gonna happen, right? Uh, no.
00:23:33
I like city lamb to you.
00:23:34
I think he deserved to be the number one pick in the draft.
00:23:36
To be honest with you, right? It's, um because of this.
00:23:40
I think that I guess that Jerry Jones was absolutely floored when, when? When he fell to him, right and fell to the Cowboys.
00:23:47
So it's Ah, it's It's, I think, that he's got a lot of good talent, but I'm not a He's a rookie.
00:23:53
He's gonna be 600 maybe 700 yards.
00:23:56
Max McCarthy is one to baby his rookies right and not exposed them because I remember once watching a um I think was a Brady do***ent. The Brady six.
00:24:08
They were talking about his drive class they're talking about the guy that got drafted into San Francisco and basically he got beat up in the Hall of Fame game and he was never the same after that.
00:24:17
And the coaches were saying, It doesn't matter what position you play in the NFL if you have a really bad rookie season that can completely just tear it your confidence to for the rest of your career.
00:24:28
And I think there's gonna be a lot of high expectations for CD Lamb, considering his draft status, considering where the Cowboy them right, it has to be.
00:24:42
And I think that you need to put all the pressure on Gallup and Amari Cooper and you.
00:24:46
You see the lamb sparingly and I If, honestly, if I'm McCarthy, I'm saving him in his physicality and speed for the playoffs.
00:24:56
You what? I mean, it's not going to use them, But then that's gonna be sort of my weapon that I hold, you know, And Harbaugh's really good at doing this ballot shacks really good at doing this kind of keeping a guy in their back pocket that nobody's really paying attention to it.
00:25:08
Then all of a sudden playoff time comes around and they come explode.
00:25:12
And that could be a time.
00:25:14
Um, if McCarthy's smart and in my opinion is he's a really good coach.
00:25:19
Um, die week.
00:25:22
Dallas can get to the get to the playoffs.
00:25:26
Fair enough.
00:25:27
Fair enough.
00:25:28
All right, well, um And then, of course, we also didn't mention you know how we all feel about Dak Prescott.
00:25:34
So throw all those factors in a swell as that.
00:25:37
So yeah, I think that's a no from all three of us.
00:25:41
Let's just steps from the main topics.
00:25:43
So there's been a lot of ridiculous sort of predictions made by players.
00:25:49
You know, this year, like, wasn't it? Ah, was it a Tyree kill that said he wanted a 2000 yard season, just like just absolute ludicrously or all the Chiefs players talking about a dynasty dynasty? Oh, my God, you win one Super Bowl? Yeah, like it's look, the Indianapolis Colts.
00:26:08
On paper, we're the best team in the league for 10 years.
00:26:12
Better than the Patriots.
00:26:14
Yeah, I mean, like, I mean, there was moments like 2007.
00:26:17
The Patriots had the best roster offensively, and defensively still didn't win the Super Bowl you know, um, Indianapolis, though on paper for 10 12 years, were the best team in the NFL and 11 Super Bowl out of it, right? It's so hard to win a Super Bowl.
00:26:37
Um, yeah.
00:26:39
There's gonna be a lot of disappointed people in the Cheese Kingdom.
00:26:42
I agree.
00:26:43
So speaking of that, we we actually all didn't get to talk about the NFL's top 100 or I think me and Lawrence to talk a little bit about it.
00:26:53
Right.
00:26:54
Um, but, Ray, I'm very, very curious to see how you reacted Or what did you think about this whole thing? Uh, homes for Aaron.
00:27:05
Donald being three d Russell Wilson being too.
00:27:07
And, of course, my men, Lamar Jackson being number one.
00:27:11
I had, um, two Chiefs fans.
00:27:16
Dismay had Patrick Mahomes at number three.
00:27:20
Russell Wilson.
00:27:21
I was a little shocked that I waas um I knew that I knew that Lamar Jackson was going to get voted number one.
00:27:29
I didn't even try to do my rankings.
00:27:31
I tried to guess which players like how the players would vote and, you know, I always find with these top one hundreds, and Tom Brady has been the beneficiary of this is, Well, it's very reactionary, a swell right? You know, it's it's not who's really the fastest who was the best last season.
00:27:48
Um, I actually have Donald R.
00:27:50
Aaron Donald going to number two because I know that people just think the drool over that guy.
00:27:54
Um, I had Lamar Jackson number one.
00:27:56
I had Patrick Mahomes at number three.
00:27:58
I had Russell Wilson in the top 10.
00:28:01
I think what surprised me, though, was I had stuff on Gilmore at five.
00:28:04
So nine kind of made me raise my eyebrows at that as well.
00:28:08
I'm drawing a blank now.
00:28:09
I'm just looking at the rest of this list.
00:28:11
Um, I just hate Michael Thomas, so I couldn't put him in the top 10 like it just and I thought he was city.
00:28:18
It was five, and I thought the players would hate his cry baby attitude a little too much.
00:28:23
Um, you know, it's Derrick Henry only being 10 I get with George.
00:28:32
Mr. McCaffrey, Number six.
00:28:34
You know what I mean? Like, isn't he a fight? The top five, it's, you know, it's That's when it starts getting tough.
00:28:41
Um, I didn't like Michael Thomas at five.
00:28:45
I like kids. Christian McCaffrey.
00:28:47
Around the top five.
00:28:48
George Kill at seven.
00:28:50
DeAndre Hopkins at eight.
00:28:51
It's funny.
00:28:52
I almost forgot about him, but I don't know.
00:28:55
I just I have no problem with Lamar.
00:28:57
Number one.
00:28:58
I knew that where he was going to be.
00:28:59
You know, as far as I'm concerned, I'm way more scared of Lamar than I am a Patrick Mahomes.
00:29:03
At least I was last year.
00:29:04
Let's see what happens this year.
00:29:06
Things change year to year, but as far as long as they're going into this season, I feel more coming on comfortable playing either team.
00:29:12
But I'm more comfortable playing the Chiefs, and I am playing Baltimore because they have to play both, um, and Donald's of just a beast who was probably the only shining lights on that crappy L.
00:29:22
A Rams team last year that Jared Goff allowed to just blow up on offense, right? Yeah, as soon as I saw Mahomes get that number four spot, I knew I knew that Lamar was gonna be number one.
00:29:36
We're that my home was number four hefty with number.
00:29:39
Or when he won the M V p crazy.
00:29:42
You would have thought that Mahomes would have been number one after the 50 touchdown season.
00:29:46
For sure.
00:29:47
That's just players showing that he's good, But he's not, is your? I mean, he's not this Jet I that people say, Yeah, what I think is that they're taking into account the team around him and also being with Andy Reid, right? That's flu.
00:30:00
That that's gotta be, would it? It's not a transcendent elite talent, because I do think Patrick Holmes is that, but we haven't necessarily just seen him with just, you know, a terrible supporting cast in having to raise everybody up around him necessarily.
00:30:17
We haven't seen Patrick Mahomes, and I know this is gonna sound stupid, but we haven't seen him really deal with controversy.
00:30:25
I know they had the knee injury.
00:30:26
I know we missed a couple of weeks, but we haven't seen him missing Tyree Kill and Travis Kelsey at the same time, right? Like people can turn around well, He lost Travis Carry lost Tyreek Hill for a few weeks.
00:30:37
Yeah, but he still had Sammy walk ins and Travis Kelsey, like most teams, have won elite receiver one elite tight end or two elite receivers you're talking to elite receivers, a tight end and the third receiver.
00:30:50
What's his name? Aardman, who's probably a number two on most people's teams.
00:30:56
So he has the offensive weapons around him.
00:30:59
Um, you know, and I know you can take into consideration.
00:31:03
He came back against the Texans and all that kind of, you know, crab.
00:31:07
But I think I agree he hasn't He didn't do it. Lamar did.
00:31:10
With what I think your way, you know, inferior weapons.
00:31:13
He didn't do a braided in a couple of years ago with Julian.
00:31:17
Edelman is the top receiver on his team.
00:31:19
You know, it's if you just go into those when you take that in consideration, and I think that we've there's a formula to beat Patrick Mahomes.
00:31:31
It's not easy, but there's a formula, you know.
00:31:34
That's my whole thing.
00:31:36
We've seen teams do it at times.
00:31:38
The Patriots did it twice before last season.
00:31:42
In the regular season and in the playoffs.
00:31:44
There is a formula.
00:31:45
It's not easy to execute and everything has to go right for you to be able to execute that formula.
00:31:53
We still don't know.
00:31:54
I think that coaches can try to put a formula for Lamar Jackson.
00:31:58
I think there's little nuances that have been figured out, but whether or not they can execute it and it's a real formula, it's still yet to be seen, right.
00:32:07
And we'll see this season whether or not it actually works or not with with with my homes, there is a formula.
00:32:13
The Texans did it until they didn't you what? I mean, um, took over? Yeah, till Bill Brian took over.
00:32:19
You know, the Patriots did it for in the two games.
00:32:22
They won for a long time until they didn't.
00:32:23
At some point, he kind of breaks through it.
00:32:25
But if you consider low him down enough, the near offense can score points.
00:32:30
Then they Kansas City, then kind of gets in trouble, right? And we've seen it.
00:32:34
The news, The Titans this year, something like just defect since the Titans and the cold.
00:32:38
All three f eating beat him in the regular season.
00:32:41
Yeah, and they were all just you know, So there is a way and, you know, some of that formula is keep him off the field.
00:32:48
But defensively they were stopping them is stopping him as well.
00:32:51
So there's a formula there.
00:32:52
Where's with Lamar Jackson? We have not seen a formula and there was a formula in his 50 touchdown season.
00:33:00
You know, it's and that's another big piece and some teams pulled it off.
00:33:04
We haven't seen that with Laker Lamar.
00:33:06
And that's why Lamar deserves to sit at number one right now.
00:33:08
Not Patrick moms.
00:33:11
I like it. I'll take again.
00:33:13
Yeah, I would've gay C and C two or three and I think he's just important to his team there.
00:33:20
Donald is is I mean, sure this solders to it? Yeah, I think.
00:33:24
Yeah, her story.
00:33:25
Who's that? You kind of cut out on me.
00:33:27
Christian McCaffrey.
00:33:28
Christian McCaffrey.
00:33:29
Yeah, absolutely.
00:33:31
He should have been a top five, like not Number six.
00:33:34
I would have put him over it.
00:33:35
Michael Thomas, For sure, I would put more Michael Thomas Howes, and here's another thing.
00:33:39
I mean, look, maybe this is me.
00:33:41
This may be the sour g****s to me picking hairs, but the defensive player of the year fall seven spots behind another defensive player.
00:33:52
You know what I mean? It's so and again, it all comes down to reactionary stuff and consistency.
00:33:59
Um, I think that if you know, if Patrick Mahomes does again, you know, wins the Super Bowl again, the players are gonna have no choice but to do it in less.
00:34:09
Lamar Jackson goes gunshot.
00:34:11
But if Lamar goes one and out again in the playoffs, it's gonna be, you know, me then he's gonna get that ****** on his back, and then that's gonna become a bit of the story if you know.
00:34:20
And again, the player rankings are always a little bit different than and it's a little bit of politics, right? You know, it's you're gonna vote for your body.
00:34:30
You're gonna vote for this.
00:34:31
You're gonna bone for that Attack was like 43 Carson once wasn't even on the list.
00:34:37
I mean, come on, now.
00:34:38
Well, I I wouldn't have Ah.
00:34:43
Now let's let's talk.
00:34:45
Did you guys see the react? Now let's talk a reaction.
00:34:47
Did you see Keenan Allen snapping about how he's the best receiver in the league? And he started get into a war of words with Tyree Kill and Sammy Watkins and Michael Thomas and all the boys.
00:35:00
I mean, there was ah, there it was to me that was, like, the funniest interaction.
00:35:06
Watch back and forth.
00:35:07
And in Keenan Allen was just getting roasted.
00:35:10
Yeah, Anything to add Lord concert? No wide receiver for wide receiver wide receivers.
00:35:20
They're going to be wide receivers. That's true.
00:35:22
Um, no, but yeah, I totally agree with your A I mean, I think that I can totally see why Lamar was voted as the number one player here.
00:35:31
Um, I mean, quite simply, this is a everybody that pretty much everybody that saw Lamar during the regular season there, like he's the best player we've seen this year so far, right? So they're gonna take that they're gonna vote for him and obviously everybody he started getting, you know, everybody wanted to watch Lamar Place.
00:35:49
So of course, 2019 was Lamar Jackson's year.
00:35:53
You know, at least the regular season.
00:35:55
Obviously, the Chiefs are gonna be remembered for winning the Super Bowl.
00:35:58
But Lamar is gonna be remembered for his amazing 2019 and for the unanimous league M v p.
00:36:04
So I can totally see why he got number one.
00:36:06
I want to throw something out too, and I swear to God, this is not sour g****s.
00:36:10
This is me.
00:36:11
Just trying to be is realistic possible right now, right? I mean, are we serious that Tom Brady is the 14th best player in the NFL? That that that he's better than to Sean Watson, Travis Kelsey, Nick Bosa, Chandler Jones? Like those are just the four names I'm looking at right now.
00:36:33
Khalil Mack.
00:36:34
I thinks a little overrated when we talk about overrated players.
00:36:36
I put him in that Amari Cooper categories think he's a great player, but I think that.
00:36:41
But I'm looking at some of these names and I'm looking.
00:36:44
Going Tom Brady on ah rated standpoint is not better than these guys.
00:36:50
You know, I'm not trying to dismiss this list to dismiss limb or anything like that.
00:36:53
I'm just saying, like, I look at some of these names and go like this is just the players felt like they had to vote for Tom Brady. I totally agree.
00:37:01
I mean, just like with the whole air and Donald thing.
00:37:03
It's respect is a big factor in this.
00:37:06
I guarantee you, because I remember even like JJ what a couple years back where he had him played it all.
00:37:12
He was on the list just because he's JJ.
00:37:14
What? Right.
00:37:15
So it's It's a matter of Oh, it's Tom Brady.
00:37:18
Gotta respect to go through with it.
00:37:20
Yeah, and Jamal Adams is 27 that Richard Sherman is 28th you know, like it's stately.
00:37:28
Should not be close in in where they're being ranked together.
00:37:32
And I don't know, I just look at your telling me that when we rank the best players, today's Richard Sherman is better than sick.
00:37:38
Want Barkley? You know what I mean? When we're talking about talk players going into 2020.
00:37:43
And then if I said to you, you could have Barkley or Sherman and not your current team does your starting with one of these two guys right now? Yep.
00:37:52
The current Richard Sherman is not Richard Sherman from 10 years ago.
00:37:56
I'm going with the Kwame Barkley, the best running back in the NFL.
00:38:00
You know, like, absolutely outlook that over one of my players when I saw that various Leonard was only 50.
00:38:11
Mm.
00:38:12
Was he the highest colt on the list? Oh, no, no.
00:38:16
Oh, well, Quinton Nelson.
00:38:17
That's right.
00:38:18
Yeah, but Nelson was like 29 uh, which is the highest? I think all offensive lineman or something like it is like the highest guard ever in history to be ****d like that.
00:38:29
But I totally get I Just the year before, Leonard was, like, 23 or something like that.
00:38:37
His we season.
00:38:38
And this year he was ranked 50th because he missed three games due to a concussion.
00:38:44
But he ended up having hey, still, Yeah, he had a few less tackles because only, obviously you're going to when you missed three games, but the rest of the stats will stupid high.
00:38:56
He had five lead, all all linebackers and interceptions and had forced fumbles and all that other crap.
00:39:02
You know, I don't get it.
00:39:05
I don't I don't get how how they ****d me sometimes.
00:39:10
Yeah, I agree with you.
00:39:12
And again, it's a player thing, right? Um, you know, I look at some of the guys who made it on.
00:39:21
Ah, Darren Waller was 99.
00:39:25
The guy that's on the trading block, You know what I mean? Um, Julian Edelman was one a one.
00:39:32
You know, it's but it you know, I don't know.
00:39:37
It's there is a law.
00:39:39
And again, I think, some of it.
00:39:41
It's a popularity contest.
00:39:42
Some of it is.
00:39:43
What have you done for me lately? Listening.
00:39:45
I love Larry Fitz Jail.
00:39:47
You all know I love Larry Fitzgerald.
00:39:48
I do nothing but praise the man if there's anybody in the NFL and I never used the word deserve.
00:39:54
But if there's anybody in the NFL that deserves the hoist, the Lombardi Trophy, it's Larry Effin Fitzgerald.
00:40:00
He is not the 69th best player in the NFL anymore.
00:40:05
No, I'm sorry, Larry.
00:40:07
You're not a top 100. I'm sorry.
00:40:09
It's a name thing.
00:40:10
It's a respect thing. It has to be.
00:40:12
I love you, but you're not there anymore.
00:40:14
You know, you're not eight spots worse than Jarvis Landry and 10 spots worse than Odell Beckham Jr.
00:40:23
You know, you're just not and he live in Larry.
00:40:27
Larry Legends? Um, yes.
00:40:30
Oh, Okay.
00:40:31
Well, anything else that we wanted to touch on, I mean Oh, Well, how about the patriots? You know, losing pretty much half their team to the opt out.
00:40:39
You could.
00:40:40
You know what? It's not actually is bad as it looks.
00:40:42
Eight players now, Dante.
00:40:45
Hi.
00:40:46
Tires a big hit.
00:40:47
That's the big one.
00:40:48
That's the one that made me go when I first with the names were first coming is like Patrick Chung.
00:40:52
We got Kyle Duggar leadership.
00:40:56
We can deal with it.
00:40:57
Marcus Cannon.
00:40:59
You know, they're starting right tackle, but he's been on the decline for the last couple of years.
00:41:04
But, I mean, we got a couple of young guys coming up. Let's see how they do.
00:41:07
Uh, two of them are practice squad guys, so I don't even her Three of them are practice squad guys.
00:41:12
You know, we lost the tally.
00:41:15
We didn't even know Fatality was gonna be the starting fullback of Yacoubi Johnson, who came in last year for Devlin before he got hurt.
00:41:21
Matt Lacoste is a joke.
00:41:23
I was at, like to me.
00:41:24
He opted out since he was signed as an undrafted free agent 10 years ago.
00:41:28
But dont a Hightower.
00:41:29
I was up, you know, for the card.
00:41:31
If that's the one that made me go who, um, that that was rough.
00:41:36
Especially since we lost Jamie Collins landed Roberts and Kyle D Illinois in the off season.
00:41:41
Number two, If you go back even the 2017 season when they lost to the Eagles.
00:41:48
For a lot of that was the year I was surprised they went to the Super Bowl because the defense was bad in it.
00:41:53
Got bad after high Tower went out.
00:41:57
He's a natural leader on that team.
00:41:59
He and when he went out injured, you could just going to see the defense fall apart.
00:42:04
I'm worried about the middle.
00:42:05
The middle is young, Um, you know, people.
00:42:08
I've seen things people like well assigned to Davian Clowney, and we have money now, but that doesn't fulfill what dont a Hightower does in the middle.
00:42:16
That's my concern to me that has now dropped the Patriots.
00:42:20
From what I was saying is the best defense in the league toe.
00:42:24
It's still a top 10 but I think losing him is gonna drop the status of the best of league to maybe fifth.
00:42:30
To be honest, I think that's how much of an impact he makes.
00:42:33
Unless somebody really steps up and I don't know who that's gonna be.
00:42:37
I mean, job.
00:42:38
Bentley, who's a good run stopper, has showed that when high towers not on the field, he's lost cause He kind of coaches a mop out there.
00:42:46
So unless he takes a big step, that's concerned.
00:42:48
The rest of the guys were like, Whatever.
00:42:50
I'm really not concerned about the other seven.
00:42:52
High Tower was the one to me that was worth 20 guys.
00:42:54
When he went out, I was like It had just had a baby two weeks ago, and that's, you know, you almost should have known it was coming, but that's what's gonna hurt them the most is high Tower.
00:43:04
Be note.
00:43:05
I don't know how they're going.
00:43:06
I honestly don't know how they're going to recover from that.
00:43:08
I'm looking at Patriot stands.
00:43:09
I'm talking about you pay tree stands right now.
00:43:11
Stop talking about which tight end we will.
00:43:16
Linebacker is now the biggest gaping hole that we have on this team, and that's the one that because, like Cam Nunes on this team, this team still has to be a good defense.
00:43:26
Let's not kid ourselves.
00:43:27
Cam Newton is not gonna prove this team to a point that the defense doesn't have to be good.
00:43:31
So that's my concern, Joe, the other seven. It is what it is.
00:43:34
We can survive without them and we already kind of had Patrick Trump's replacement were just now kind of escalating this up a year.
00:43:41
It was supposed to be next year that he take over.
00:43:43
Ah, the high tower things scary, though.
00:43:45
Also last point.
00:43:47
This bs of guys were trying to run away from Ballot Shack, and it's because he has no fun.
00:43:52
And that Brady was there like Chung just signed a three year extension a month before he opted out.
00:43:57
You what? I mean, like, he could have very easily opted out this year and been a free agent.
00:44:01
So let's just let's just stop this nonsense.
00:44:05
So that's my That's my take on that.
00:44:07
They got their Super Bowl rings.
00:44:09
They're chilling, man.
00:44:10
They don't need Teoh.
00:44:11
They don't need to play.
00:44:12
Uh, you're hoping.
00:44:13
Yeah, yeah.
00:44:15
Now, how confident do you feel now about winning the East? Are you a little less confident now? Do you think we should favor the bills once again? I'm still confident with the East.
00:44:27
I'm not confident beyond that.
00:44:29
You mean I'm not confident? I I still to me with Newton and the rest of the defense.
00:44:36
I mean, we still have a solid defense everywhere else, um, were Miami is not going to run on us.
00:44:45
You and I mean the Jets.
00:44:47
Maybe they'll try with Lay beyond Bell.
00:44:49
But it was actually are outside guys that ate him up anyways, because he's not really a got runner.
00:44:54
He's more of, ah, finesse, the Bills running the football.
00:44:59
They have a running game that Singletary that can run straight up the middle again.
00:45:04
That's where my concern comes.
00:45:05
And that's where I think our strong safeties we're really gonna have toe.
00:45:09
That's where I think the safety, the strong safety, like a Duggar is gonna have to almost play a hybrid role of strong safety slash You know, sort of this.
00:45:17
The only thing, though, that where we lose in the middle line doctor with bringing in Kyle Duggar and losing Patrick Chung.
00:45:24
We actually have a guy that can cover a tight end now, which is something we haven't had in the past.
00:45:28
With Chung, he's always struggled against tight ends on Duggars, made a specialty of covering tight end, so we declined in one area, significantly improved other areas.
00:45:37
I still think the East is ours.
00:45:39
I'm worried, though, um, about having to play Kansas City on, terrified of having to play a Baltimore in the playoffs because you just run up the middle, you know? I mean, it's it's going to be It's gonna be a big problem for ah ah, it's good.
00:45:56
And I don't think our interior linemen are strong enough to make up for the lack of High Tower in the middle unless you want Bentley really, really, really takes some big step forward that we weren't expecting this year, and I kind of highly doubt that.
00:46:11
So he's just I think that he still runs through New England.
00:46:15
Um, but I mean, I'm not prepared to this point now to say Deep Super deep playoff run.
00:46:21
So what's all this this hullabaloo about Cam Newton have? Well, this may just be a Belichick thing.
00:46:29
Cam Newton has to earn his starting spot, But are we have seriously going to say that Jared Stadium will be out there Week one starting Camano.
00:46:38
And we talked about this with another coach, remember who was it and said that this guy has to earn a spot? We all kind of laughed and said they have to do it.
00:46:46
Who was it We did.
00:46:47
We covered this for another coach.
00:46:48
I can't remember now.
00:46:49
But he said the same thing like you have toe.
00:46:53
You know, the spots not open.
00:46:55
We just laughed. Valid check.
00:46:57
Can't say it's I've always said this.
00:46:59
The job is Kim.
00:47:00
I'm not saying that Cam Newton has the job right now.
00:47:04
I'm saying it's Cam Newton's toe.
00:47:06
Lose you what? I mean And if he comes out and looks like hell, The whole thing is, though, with no pre season with a very short training camp.
00:47:18
Um, we're not going to know until week six.
00:47:21
And by that point, it's gonna be too late anyways, So it's again, something would really, really have to screw up.
00:47:29
Um, for him not to start week one.
00:47:34
Yeah, that's for sure.
00:47:36
All right.
00:47:37
If he can't, I would rather them start Brian Hoyer.
00:47:42
Yeah, getting bigger chicken.
00:47:46
E Think he could want that once I think looking for Lord's.
00:47:52
Yeah, I want Trevor Lawrence.
00:47:54
So with high tower out, if Cam can't start, you might enjoy it.
00:47:58
You might as well put in Brian Hoyer.
00:48:01
Trade away.
00:48:02
Adul men just just tank it.
00:48:03
Bankable loser.
00:48:05
Unfortunately, I think that's in ballot checks.
00:48:07
Do you know Cam needs to start? Right? I spent 100 $54 on the jersey.
00:48:11
I have to wear that jersey, and it's not coming toe like October.
00:48:17
So Route spent more money on his jersey than Cam Newton's getting paid this year. Absolutely.
00:48:24
Absolutely.
00:48:28
Let me ask.
00:48:29
Let me ask you guys a question I should know.
00:48:33
I'm gonna call out Joe.
00:48:35
Okay, Let's let's be called him.
00:48:37
Let's do it.
00:48:40
You kind of ticked me off, Joe.
00:48:42
Okay? And not not because I had to take the pie in the face.
00:48:48
I didn't like the way you went about it.
00:48:51
And I just and I kind of called you out on Twitter, and I'm gonna call you a public now. Okay? Please.
00:48:56
I think celebrating the guide, being forced to stay home because the Koven is the same as me celebrating like Lamar Jackson tearing an A C L.
00:49:05
You know what I mean? I think it's I think it's the same.
00:49:07
I didn't like it.
00:49:08
I was drunk when I ran it.
00:49:10
I'll admit it.
00:49:11
And I was kind of like I could get.
00:49:12
Really? This could get way beyond what I wanted to get right now.
00:49:16
So I'm going.
00:49:17
But I think you won't have to Stafford an apology.
00:49:20
Okay, You know what? I'm actually glad you brought this up because I totally didn't even see it from that perspective.
00:49:26
I was not even thinking that.
00:49:27
I was just thinking You're a pie in the face, right? That's all.
00:49:31
That's literally the only thing I was thinking about.
00:49:33
I'm like, OK, that Mr Lyons.
00:49:37
Huh? Stafford will still start week one.
00:49:39
Yeah, he was taken off the covert list already.
00:49:42
So it was just It was in jest, but yeah, you're right.
00:49:46
It does totally look that I was celebrating a man having tea because of cove it and it makes me look insensitive. You're right.
00:49:54
Thank you, Ray.
00:49:55
Um, so I am.
00:49:56
I apologize to the Stafford family and Matthew Stafford.
00:49:59
I'm not celebrating that he had to miss football or whatever.
00:50:02
I would simply celebrating because I wanted to see if I in recently on.
00:50:07
Now he's ****ed.
00:50:08
I'm gonna make sure he knows about this time to keep tweeting them.
00:50:12
Just Joe laughed ecowas and cold.
00:50:16
There you every single time. Yeah, Yeah.
00:50:18
What is the bet before going further because this is escalated beyond belief.
00:50:22
Because all of a sudden, at one point, they just like yeah, yeah, yeah, I know.
00:50:26
But they had to make the playoffs, right? Was the original bet.
00:50:30
Yes.
00:50:31
Do they have to win the division or just make the playoffs playoffs? Okay, I'm comfortable.
00:50:34
That that's a comfortable one for me.
00:50:36
I wouldn't be because I know you've turned around itself like Super Bowl, and I'm like, What did I say? Yeah, like, yeah, we are.
00:50:43
You can get that extended wild card with that team I got.
00:50:46
Look, look, I gotta find the book.
00:50:49
I've I gotta admit, guys, we have a serious, serious issue.
00:50:52
What's that? I have lost the book with our record predictions with rpai vets with everything.
00:50:58
I am need to find the book.
00:51:00
I don't know what I did with It's got to be in the house, but I'm afraid that I brought it to my office because because my football book in my workbook or the same oh, and I could easily see myself grabbing the book, getting toe work when this is the wrong book and putting away and now I'm not back in my office like another month because we've had to shut down again.
00:51:20
So it's Ah, well, now we're spirit.
00:51:23
Nick wanted us to have the records.
00:51:25
I know.
00:51:26
When he wrote that, too, it was like, No, no, no, no, no.
00:51:31
I might have to go back and watch every freaking profession, show the our archive and just look at every single video man.
00:51:38
One of the interns do that like, is that we have all those.
00:51:41
It turns for that.
00:51:42
Always bragging about paying interns.
00:51:44
They have to watch an hour in every single video man that would take, like years.
00:51:49
Not really.
00:51:50
It's always the end.
00:51:51
We always do it kind of near the And so you just scrub through against the problem is that we don't like multiple ones like we have done like three team predictions on.
00:52:00
The thing is, it's there's gonna be times where we went over games already that, you know, foot flop, you know? Oh, yeah.
00:52:08
I also don't think it's being tracked properly if I could just say it because when he sent the list, he sent to saying that we did teams that we didn't do and that we didn't do teams that we did do.
00:52:18
So it's this confused me go out like I think he fixed that because on that list there was, like, 16 that said that we did.
00:52:28
And then when he came back, whether he was like, OK, there's only three teams left Okay? And I was like, Oh, we're done, I You finished it off, right? X did the Jags, Hillary the final one and I have them going to and 14.
00:52:42
I was gonna say, What did you give them? Two and 14? 14? That's right.
00:52:45
I thought for sure they would end up better than the Jet and I gave the Jets.
00:52:49
I think three and 13 and I went through.
00:52:52
I went through the Jaguars and I was just going through their games and knowing in my head, organic and dog ways not gonna be playing.
00:53:00
He said he will not play a snap for this team this year, and you know all this other stuff that's going through there and I'm like, I like I like B J.
00:53:10
I like men Shoot.
00:53:12
I think that as long as for net is healthy, he's a solid running back.
00:53:18
But outside of Alan, uh, on defense, they're screwed.
00:53:24
You know the draft.
00:53:26
You know C. J.
00:53:27
Henderson.
00:53:28
They drafted Caleb on Chase on oil.
00:53:30
You know, it's you know why? And here's the thing with our predictions, and it's something I don't think we've ever explained.
00:53:40
It's just something we I think we've just taken for granted.
00:53:43
But when we give our predictions, we give our predictions.
00:53:46
In the sense of this is what should happen.
00:53:48
I know a couple of times we've tried to call some upsets, but it's usually two good teams playing each other.
00:53:53
Like, you know, at some point, the Jaguars are probably gonna like beat.
00:53:57
And I'm not.
00:53:58
Seems like they're gonna beat Indy or something.
00:53:59
I mean, they're gonna be the team they're not supposed to be.
00:54:02
That's going to give them four wins or three wins.
00:54:05
There's not a lot of if you really go back.
00:54:07
There's usually only one Cincinnati every year.
00:54:09
You mean of the one.
00:54:10
There is no wind teams right.
00:54:12
We got a lot of teams within, like three games, which you know, could very easily win four or five because of a swing.
00:54:19
And look, it's It's the NFL, and I I'm gonna knock on what? I hope this doesn't happen.
00:54:24
But, you know, if if Lamar Jackson blows a knee, that Baltimore team is suddenly a very different team.
00:54:31
You know what I mean? If if you know if if if my homes is out for more than two weeks and maybe they survived with two weeks for Matt Moore, But they're not gonna win 10 games.
00:54:39
You know what I mean? Mawr without without, um the guy Patrick Mahomes.
00:54:45
You know, the half a $1,000,000,000 man.
00:54:47
So it's That's the whole thing about the NFL to, and I mean, Jesus, like the Cleveland Browns have won the Super Bowl.
00:54:53
How many years in a row now? Yeah, that's true.
00:54:57
So just out of curiosity, Lawrence, who were the two winds that you gave the check? Do you remember Scott to be in her conference externally? Oh, yeah, that's right.
00:55:09
I got beating the Indianapolis Colts in Jacksonville in Jacksonville.
00:55:14
The courts have not beat Jack.
00:55:17
The Colts have not be the Jags in Jacksonville.
00:55:23
Ah, and like the last six funds also there due for a win.
00:55:29
Yeah, maybe so.
00:55:31
Why did that on.
00:55:32
Who's the other team? Um, I think it was.
00:55:37
I have a feeling they always break the Titans.
00:55:40
Sensi, I think, since since he so you have the titans sweeping them and you have Houston sweeping them.
00:55:47
Yeah, but you got the loss to Indy. Probably.
00:55:49
Who's the best team in that division? I don't want to be considered, you know, picking favorite.
00:55:55
No.
00:55:56
See, you see, you are like, if you're you're more likely.
00:56:02
See, Joe has no shame.
00:56:04
And I like, you know, no shame with his where you're, like, more like me.
00:56:09
Like I'm almost harder on the Patriots because I so badly don't want to be seen as a homer that I do stupid things that time.
00:56:16
Like all they're gonna lose this game.
00:56:18
Um, except had any going 12 and four, even with that loss of Jackson.
00:56:23
Now I will see something that might irritate you.
00:56:28
I know I for almost all the offseason I've had India's the best team in that division, and the more and more I thought about it a little bit of this use convincing me I no longer believe that the best team that divisional excellent say that Texans I have Houston When that division Lawrence convinced me.
00:56:42
Lawrence convinced me that they're a better team this year than they were last year, and it's Ah, but we need more, uh, to think they're worth defense this year and in the plays, watching well, every game defensively.
00:57:00
So that's if they didn't have to play Indianapolis.
00:57:04
And I didn't have to play Tennessee because those two, those two fight no threepeat.
00:57:10
They always fight each other hard.
00:57:12
Yeah, they almost always split.
00:57:14
It's a pretty scrappy isn't Bill O'Brien now in a year where, like this has to be a must win year for him, right? Like, Well, let me crabby keeps going to the playoffs angry.
00:57:26
He keeps going to the playoffs in every year.
00:57:28
Everybody's like, Well, he needs to be fired.
00:57:31
But this what playoff? But which, at which point is I'm not good enough.
00:57:37
That's true, like especially like you have to Sean Watson, you know, and I think now, as Lawrence convinced me, he's given to Sean Watson more weapons.
00:57:45
He's lost the best weapon in the league, but his ****nal has opened up where he's not reliant on one guy.
00:57:52
So, in essence, he has more weapons toe work with this year, still has an awful offensive line, which could be, Ah, crucial issue.
00:58:00
That seemed to be another team that never wants to address the offensive line.
00:58:03
Like they just let's let him run.
00:58:04
What's now? You don't need to.
00:58:07
Yeah, just wasn't is not convinced.
00:58:09
Could be Kansas City's philosophy for years to Yeah, well, we have Patrick Mahomes inure to the ball quickly, you know? And that's what Baltimore to Indianapolis Colts Lying on how we handled.
00:58:18
Look, yeah, but you know what, though? That's where Yeah, the cold.
00:58:24
And it's funny because you have Peyton, where you're like the greatest offensive line.
00:58:27
Maybe in the history of the game.
00:58:29
Definitely the best center standing, the only means standing in front of him.
00:58:32
And then you go, Andrew Luck recall the exact opposite road since Li and then his last season of his career.
00:58:38
That's what you put that.
00:58:42
Here you go, man.
00:58:43
But you know, and this is always where I the car ball and who's the GM in Baltimore? It's It's Eric DeCosta.
00:58:53
NAFTA costly Ozzie Newsome because he newsome Yeah, well, Newsome was for years, right, but It's the cost of them.
00:58:58
And that's where Baltimore's been really smart.
00:59:00
And I think this has John are our balls, Even though the cost might be the GM, Harbaugh has got to be involved with the decision making of personnel, and it's almost a New England sort of way of doing things to write, don't spend a lot of money on weapons.
00:59:16
You what? I mean, it's it's have the basics.
00:59:20
The offensive line, you know, the running backs, the full backs, the guys who can block for the for your quarterback.
00:59:25
You need a good quarterback, Um, really mean and then from there, have a solid defense and good special teams and disperse that money where you see other teams where it's like the Chiefs where they spent no money on defense.
00:59:39
I know they think that defense is going to start deteriorating after this season when, especially when that you know, half a $1,000,000,000 contract kicks in and it's gonna be an offensive heavy team with no offensive line.
00:59:51
It's gonna be a pure weapons team.
00:59:53
You what I mean and that's going to start causing issues.
00:59:55
Where is when you look at those teams that build that foundation and, you know, and then indie I'm okay with the way they did things with Manning.
01:00:03
Yeah, you didn't spend much on the defense, but the offense was complete.
01:00:07
The offensive line, the weapons, the tight ends yet a little bit of running back issues for a while, especially when you have like, is the Joseph A.
01:00:14
Di who was running for you for a bit.
01:00:16
And then Peyton Manning and your offenses had to score more points in the defense let up, which is fine.
01:00:21
But you had a complete team, right? It's where other guys, they spend way too much money on receivers and running backs and then go, Oh, ****.
01:00:28
We have no offensive line and no defense cold.
01:00:32
They they spent their money in a strategic area on the defense.
01:00:36
They knew they were going to score points.
01:00:38
So they went out, you know, and they put money and Dwight Freeney and Robert Mathis knowing that team to throw the football, we're gonna have to throw the football more often.
01:00:48
So get your path rushers, pay them and let him go.
01:00:52
You know, that was their thought process, and it worked.
01:00:55
I think the boat Or who was the last weapon on offense that you had in Baltimore? Well, like legit, Not a Baltimore weapon that turned into a weapon involved More, but like, ah, legit.
01:01:09
Like everybody in the league would have wanted men, like as a receiver you're talking about because yeah.
01:01:16
Tori Wilson vittori Wilson, If you can consider him or And there he coming r a Torrey Smith, not Tory Worst oratory. Oratory.
01:01:24
Smith of Derby Diva.
01:01:25
Yeah, that's Torrey Smith story Smith One who lost his brother.
01:01:28
Right? Right, Right.
01:01:29
And then he went off against the Pats.
01:01:31
Yep.
01:01:32
On that night? Yeah, this next day. Yeah, right.
01:01:34
Um, so I guess Torrey Smith I mean, we honestly like going back in rece wide receiver history for the Ravens.
01:01:41
It's not pretty, men.
01:01:42
I mean, the person that holds the record for, um, receiving yards in a single season for the Ravens is Michael Jackson.
01:01:51
Yeah, right from the first season inaugural season, 1996.
01:01:56
So that record since 1996 she's this and and I actually had a hot take that Hollywood Brown is gonna break that this year, But I don't know.
01:02:05
I thought I could break that.
01:02:08
I know it's Michael Jackson, but anyway, I wanted to go back to your point about the offensive lines, man.
01:02:13
I mean, you see teams like the Ravens, and now you know, maybe the cold stew, you know, historically have put stock into the offensive line.
01:02:21
But maybe for most of Andrew left career, they didn't.
01:02:24
But, I mean, the Ravens.
01:02:25
I wanted to go back to the 2016 draft, where it was like one of the few years that we were just terrible.
01:02:31
We went five and 11.
01:02:32
Everybody got injured.
01:02:34
We have the number 16 pick overall, and we take Ronnie Stanley and look what he's turned out to be amazing at the time.
01:02:42
You know, you wanted to take someone flashy like the Forest.
01:02:44
Buckner was the pick right after us.
01:02:46
I mean, guys like Quiano Neil, maybe a Kenny Clarke.
01:02:50
There's there's other, like defensive stars names you could have taken.
01:02:54
But the fact that the Ravens decided to go with the offensive linemen just says a lot about, you know, putting emphasis on the trenches.
01:03:02
Oh, yeah, I mean, Haiti had the top three pick after that Bad horrible Got all right, man, that's gonna quit. NLC.
01:03:08
They went and got Quinton Nelson and New England doesn't usually take high linemen.
01:03:15
But you know that ballot check is good for 3 to 4 every draft, hoping that one of them hit you what I mean.
01:03:22
And if you keep doing that, you'll just keep replenishing your offensive line.
01:03:27
So it's Ah, yeah, and it's just it's teams just go out and I And if you look at all the best teams, we look at the Saints again.
01:03:36
Another.
01:03:37
I mean, Drew Brees could not play in front of a bad offensive line right now, and that's why I'm scared for Tom Brady in Tampa Bay with all those weapons they have again.
01:03:47
You were talking about a team that will move the ball because of the weapons, but I think the line as bad as you guys make it out to be, I think they're gonna be a lot better than you might think.
01:03:58
I watched Tom Brady play in front of a bad offensive line last year, Tom bring, but I'm seeing ghosts.
01:04:04
Line is gonna be better than the Patriots line last year.
01:04:06
That's what I'm thinking.
01:04:08
That's what I think. We'll see.
01:04:10
Uh, Derrick Mason.
01:04:11
That's right. Make chicken vlogs.
01:04:13
Good point.
01:04:14
Derrick Mason was probably the last receiver that was pretty good on the Ravens.
01:04:17
Anquan Boldin, Steve Smith.
01:04:20
Even though he was a little older, that dude was Faisal with Steve.
01:04:23
Smith was a star before he went to Baltimore, though.
01:04:26
Like he's not a star that came out of it and more.
01:04:28
And Boldin was the same.
01:04:29
He was a star before he came there, and they were both kind of the tail. Another careers.
01:04:33
We we really don't have any.
01:04:34
Homegrown receivers have turned out to be something, so maybe Hollywood Brown could break them.
01:04:40
What? An outside of Ray Rice, who was a superstar prior toe.
01:04:44
You know his incident? Yep.
01:04:47
Do you have any, like, superstar running backs? Or if they have always just been a product of the system? Well, there was Jamal Lewis who had that 2000 yards season.
01:04:54
Um, then there was Priest Holmes and his Ah, I think he was.
01:04:59
We picked him up on drafted.
01:05:01
He ended up going to the Chiefs. Yeah, yeah.
01:05:03
Um, we had Willis McGahee, who was pretty good for a few years there, so we we tend to start.
01:05:10
Did you start with Willis McGahee? What do you mean, Is that Did he come? Did you draft him or did he? Uh why do I feel like you from popular use the bills, right? Will it? So, No.
01:05:25
But you have just pure home grown.
01:05:27
I mean, Jamal Lewis. Priest Holmes.
01:05:29
Ray Rice, Of course.
01:05:32
Um, Ray Rice was being here.
01:05:34
Yeah.
01:05:36
Yeah.
01:05:37
So, um but yeah, I mean, usually, like offensively, It's never really been our been RM.
01:05:43
Oh, we've always been defense, but you're not just defense.
01:05:46
If that's a thing.
01:05:47
Your special teams as well, right? If you always look it, and I think not enough.
01:05:52
And look, I get that I'm a Patriots fan, and I've been ingrained by our head coach to love special teams.
01:05:58
But when I look at things that happened on special teams, you know, watching patriots games or watching, um, you know, like teams like the Ravens.
01:06:07
Like the emphasis on I don't think the average casual fan really understands the importance of special teams and how it actually impacts a game, you know? Look, let's go back to the Super Bowl that you guys? One.
01:06:20
It was a Bolden who ran back to Touchdown Noah from the kickoff return.
01:06:24
Yeah, will be Jacoby Jones.
01:06:26
Oh, sorry, Jacoby Jones.
01:06:28
If Jacoby Jones doesn't run that back the way the rest of the game went, Baltimore could have lost. Super Bowl.
01:06:34
Could see what I mean, like special.
01:06:36
That run that kickoff return for the T v.
01:06:40
C J had kickoff for Terry in both of our Super Bowls.
01:06:43
It was Jermaine Lewis back in 2000 I think.
01:06:46
Who did that? So that's right again.
01:06:48
We scored 34 in both the Super Bowl, so there's Chicago hadn't returned the opening kickoff for a touchdown in the Super Bowl in old six against the Cold State.
01:06:59
Man never scored in that game.
01:07:01
You know what I was? I hated the courts, right? Being a Patriots fan, I had to hate the courts.
01:07:06
I had hit the Colts, just like Lawrence when he was talking smack when I was in the stream, saying he could never cheer for the Patriots.
01:07:12
I was the same.
01:07:13
I could never cheer for the Colts.
01:07:15
I'm a little bit impact.
01:07:16
I'm a little bit easier on them now, but back in the paint manages, I couldn't do it.
01:07:21
I was so excited when Devin Hester ran that ball back like, yes, Peyton's not gonna win is Super Bowl.
01:07:29
And then it was just a **** show.
01:07:32
They remember.
01:07:34
Yeah.
01:07:35
Then I remembered.
01:07:36
Was Jay Cutler at the time? No, it was or wasn't every seat, wasn't it? Rex Grossman was a Grossman then.
01:07:43
Oh, God e.
01:07:45
I was I was in college.
01:07:47
I was at the pub in college with by watching that game going Oh, my God, I just wanted I was drinking Guinness and I want to just throw it.
01:07:57
So what state It was a white jersey.
01:07:58
I just want to throw the same.
01:08:00
It was pouring rain game and the Bears were don't for running the football.
01:08:06
That's how they got there during the football and the love you.
01:08:10
Smith completely got away from the game plan and and somehow Peyton was still able to throw the football from the rain.
01:08:19
You know, I couldn't believe it.
01:08:20
I was like, Wow, Reggie Wayne was getting wide open standing there right in the end zone, going here on my here.
01:08:25
There's no one around for 30 yards.
01:08:27
You know, now I will say something.
01:08:30
When you said I could never, um, vote for ah, root for the Patriots.
01:08:35
I have rooted for the Pacers.
01:08:37
Yeah, because it because it reflected that it was gonna help the Colts get more of my own divisional rival.
01:08:43
I admit I have cheered for the Patriots once, once.
01:08:47
It was when they went up against the Steelers in the A F C championship a few years ago, because I didn't want to see the Steelers go to the super.
01:08:54
I didn't want to see the Patriots go to the Super Bowl, but it was such a lose lose for you.
01:08:58
I I guess I'd rather see the Patriots lose a Super Bowl than the Steelers make it to another Super Bowl.
01:09:05
I don't know. Yeah, it's funny.
01:09:07
Like sometimes you gotta like, I hate the Eagles more cause of their fan base in the team.
01:09:12
But remember the year after they beat the Patriots in the Super Bowl? I had to cheer for them because they're playing Houston.
01:09:17
And that was the game that when Scott hurt Nick Foles brought them all the way back and won the game in overtime.
01:09:22
And that's what gave the Patriots a second seed.
01:09:25
And it was like I hated cheering for the Eagles, like celebrating an Eagles game as if it was like the second last game or third last game of the season.
01:09:32
It felt dirty. I bet.
01:09:34
I know, man.
01:09:35
You the Patriot like the Patriots hate, I think between the Ravens and the Patriots has kind of gone down a little bit.
01:09:40
But I don't know if you remember Ray, that it was at an all time Fever point man.
01:09:44
We had some battles in the playoffs.
01:09:47
I usual freak ate the site of Tom Brady, the Patriots, everything.
01:09:51
Men, I want to say 2008 until 2014.
01:09:56
Really? But the Colts, the Ravens Ah, in the Jets, because that was some of that time was the Rex Ryan time.
01:10:05
Um, that was the most heated rivalries and for the Patriots, you know, the the Manning, the Manning, Brady, though we could never beat the Ravens.
01:10:17
And what I mean, um and then just freakin Rex Ryan and his big mouth, right? That was the most heated time for me is the Patriot because it's funny.
01:10:25
I sit here now and if you like, and you say to me like, Who are the Patriots Biggest rivals.
01:10:32
I kind of go, I don't know you.
01:10:34
And I mean, like, it's It's not the Colts anymore, you know what I mean? Um, you know the Ravens we haven't met.
01:10:42
We met in the playoffs of 2014.
01:10:43
That's the last time we met about the Steelers in 2016.
01:10:47
I mean, people, you know, I know Chiefs fans say that we're the biggest rival, but to me, that's a one way rivalry.
01:10:53
The A F C East has been such a joke for the last five years.
01:10:56
There hasn't really been a battle internally.
01:10:59
I guess now would be Buffalo a little bit because they're actually, you know, competitive for you.
01:11:03
Beat him every time you still beat him.
01:11:05
Yeah, this will be the year we don't have Tom Brady.
01:11:07
So let's see what happens, right? But it's it's, you know, I guess are be the painting.
01:11:12
Here's while Miami is not a private we go into every season.
01:11:16
No, we're gonna lose the game to Miami like it's just we just know it it doesn't matter. Home away.
01:11:21
We're gonna lose again in Miami.
01:11:22
But I think our big But I know since you spring in Miami, I think our biggest rival is right, Fitzpatrick.
01:11:29
I think he's He's beat the pages like, four times your meat on all three gives.
01:11:36
Yeah, So that that biggest rival now all he has to do is go on the Patriots and lose a Super Bowl, and then he'll really get them. Yeah.
01:11:45
What? Toby s final final nail in the coffin.
01:11:48
He just sucks the entire superbug.
01:11:51
Hey, Plays like fits magic for 16 games and then oh, so does that Super Bowl comes.
01:11:56
Oh, I'm Ryan Fitzpatrick, man, I'm screwing the Patriots.
01:11:59
I know we gotta go, but can I throw a question? You guys Sure.
01:12:02
If Ryan Fitzpatrick let's in the pier hypothetical.
01:12:06
You know it's not gonna happen, but say he leads Might say Miami exceeds expectation.
01:12:11
That defense really does step up.
01:12:13
You mean, and he wins a Super Bowl with Miami.
01:12:17
Given the fits, whole fits magic journey, men career.
01:12:22
Where does that rank him like? Where does that when we look at like when we talk about old quarterbacks like, Does he land up in the, um oh, the Trent Dilfer category of Super Bowl winners? Or is he actually looked at and Nick fall sort of way? Or is he looked at as a like a Joe Flacco? Sort of, you know, a good respected.
01:12:44
He's not known as a great, you know? I mean, like, no one's gonna argue him as a top five, but still a good quarterback.
01:12:51
Great quarterback.
01:12:52
You would say that won a Super Bowl.
01:12:53
Like where would he go if he actually pulled this off? I actually don't hate the Joe Flacco comparison, right? Because Flacco and Fitzpatrick both have moments of greatness right straight up.
01:13:05
They just do.
01:13:06
And there's games that they that the money is on the table and you need a plane made and both of the quarterbacks make the place.
01:13:13
So I don't hate that Joe Flacco comparison, but that's only to say if Fitzpatrick actually do that. But I like that.
01:13:20
I think that's fun to think about Lawrence.
01:13:25
I'm looking at some gotta do do the numbers.
01:13:30
He's doing the math theology that Miami will win the Super Bowl.
01:13:33
Ray is this, too, that you're an idiot for bringing come to quit, and then we should probably call it quits.
01:13:39
Were you looking at our Gaff? Yeah, we can shut down after I think that this Oh, he's in the good range, in my opinion, I mean, he really is, uh I was going to say I would rank.
01:13:56
I would rate him like the Alex Smith tight butt out.
01:14:00
Smith hasn't won a Super Bowl, so I was looking up actually to see if he if at else, was even on a team like, you know, with the Niners.
01:14:10
They lost a soupy, lost the Super Bowl with Niners.
01:14:13
Kaepernick was starting, though.
01:14:15
Yeah, that's right.
01:14:17
That's that, I think.
01:14:19
Do you guys know about the whole fits magic curse surf the Fitzpatrick curse? No.
01:14:25
Have you heard about that? So when he's a backup, he will start that season because the starting quarterback will either go down to injury or something will happen.
01:14:34
Something's gonna happen that Ryan Fitzpatrick will become the starter.
01:14:37
That seat the backup.
01:14:40
He will eventually become the starter.
01:14:42
It's happened every single time in his career.
01:14:44
Well, if he's even had quarterbacks, well, that's what they call it.
01:14:47
no duffer him.
01:14:48
But if you have him on your team, you know he is going to start eventually.
01:14:52
That's just how hard you are to was probably going start me is the back of the start.
01:14:56
Maybe back E.
01:14:59
I mean, I think me and Ray both agree that we think that six Patrick should start this season off anyhow.
01:15:05
Yes, Louis.
01:15:06
And I think if they start showing some promise, you keep him in for the year and you just let to learn.
01:15:10
If they put two in, then you gotta be afraid that, too, is going to get hurt because of Fitzpatrick.
01:15:16
So even without the two of getting hurt thing like, let's say, Miami is five and four, right? After nine games, you're still kind of in a position where potentially fight for a playoff spot, right? Do you go away from Fitzpatrick or do you go to to, uh, you know what I mean? And it's almost a tough call because of two comes in.
01:15:37
It stinks it up.
01:15:39
And let's say two of the four losses were close to Miami.
01:15:42
I mean, that could be Brian floors his neck right there.
01:15:45
You know, like it's It's tough.
01:15:49
I always make checking, Vlog says.
01:15:51
He says the rose and curse Rosen goes on a team and he sucks every time more Josh Rose and I don't want to get.
01:15:57
We talked about him so much anyway.
01:15:59
We could shut it down now for Josh.
01:16:01
I got another show.
01:16:02
I'm gonna do it.
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Nine.
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Alright, guys, let's set it down.
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Guys, this was a lot of fun.
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Amari Cooper’s bold claim on Cowboys having three 1,000-yard receivers

The Dallas Cowboys have one of the most exciting wide receiver groups in the NFL after selecting CeeDee Lamb in the first round of the 2020 NFL Draft. Lamb joins a group that includes emerging star Michael Gallup and superstar Amari Cooper. And Cooper seems to be pretty thrilled with the idea of having those […]

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Well, it looks like we're up and running.
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What's going on, everybody? My name is Joe new beau, and that's right.
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Your eyes are not deceiving you.
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It is the we don't have a name.
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I mean.
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Well, SportsCastr news, of course.
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But I was trying to give us a nickname.
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You know, like a fabulous foursome.
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But it's not a foursome, so I don't know, whatever, but anyone.
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Drastic three defense. Sure.
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I mean, it doesn't make sure you go. Sure.
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I mean, that works for now.
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But as you could see, raise finally back from his vacation.
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Um, you know, I'm sure he enjoyed himself.
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But now it's time to get back to real life.
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And right now it's time to talk some football race.
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So are you ready? Hey, what's that sound? Sounds very excited to be back.
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Okay, So, guys, Dallas Cowboys again.
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But this time we're talking about some comments that Amari Cooper made, and he basically said that he expects this receiving court, you know, obviously Amari Cooper himself, Michael Gallup and Ricky cd lamb toe all go for over 1000 yards.
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Now, if there's a trio that you would probably put money down that it could happen to, I would say, You know, it wouldn't be too crazy to say that the Cowboys trio could do it.
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If you're gonna make a bet which receiving trio would do it this year, I don't think the Cowboys would be a bad choice, right.
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But I I mean, I don't know, man, How are we feeling about this? I, you know, I have the numbers pulled up that we can dive a lot deeper into.
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But I want to get your initial impressions off of this.
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And why don't we start with the man that had a long time to rest? He's back.
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Let's hear what you got.
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Nothing better than coming back from vacation and talking about the Dallas Cowboys again.
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Um, listen, if you said to me what two teams or what three teams do you think could have 1000 yard receivers? I would tell you the Kansas City Chiefs probably have the best chance, even though it wouldn't be a trio of receivers and be Travis Kelsey in the mix.
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And if you put a gun in my head and forced me to talk about another team, I might say the Dallas Cowboys.
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I could maybe say the Buccaneers, um, but I don't think that I think the Chiefs of the only team that are equipped this year to do that, Um, when you look at the Dallas Cowboys now, look, we haven't seen them in a Mike McCarthy offense yet.
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We know he likes to air out the football, but it's also a team that has Ezekiel Elliott and Mike McCarthy.
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Never had a running back of Ezekiel Elliott's a caliber while he was the coach of the Green Bay Packers, so I could see him executing the run a little bit more.
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Ah, the tight ends are weak on Dallas, so it would have to come down to that trio.
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I like CD lamb.
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I've been very complimentary to see the lamb, but see the Lamb is not Randy Moss.
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CD Lamp is not gonna catch 1000 yards in his first season.
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I think it's unrealistic from Ari Cooper to even suggest that and put any kind of pressure on the poor kid.
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Um, I like Michael Gallup.
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I think that he's a good sort of flanker receiver, but I think the only 1000 yard receiver they're gonna have when that seems Amari Cooper, and it doesn't matter of Dax told them the football or or adult and storing them in full.
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Go, Let me.
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I just wanted to throw this out there just so people understand how hard it is to get a trio of 3000 yard receivers.
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It's only happened five times in NFL history, and I have it right here.
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1980 I guess.
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The San Diego Chargers, 1989 Washington 1995 Atlanta Falcons 2000 for Indianapolis Colts with Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne and Brandon Stokley there and then in 2008 Arizona.
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Larry Fitzgerald, Anquan Boldin and Steve Breast.
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And so Lawrence.
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And I mean, you gotta throw in two.
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In 2000 and seven, the Patriots broke almost every receiving record in the NFL, and they didn't have a trio of 380 1000 yard receivers.
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True? Yeah, it is incredibly difficult on me.
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That the four team was for the Colts was absolutely stacked right, And just like you said with the Patriots, they had a stack offense, especially passing the football breaking records like crazy, and I'm I'm sorry, but you're right.
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Usually rookie wide receivers don't break at 1000 yards.
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Even if there stud receivers, they generally don't break $1000 a rookie year.
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You're lucky to get one or two a season to do that.
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And it doesn't necessarily mean that.
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Ah, common thing that happened either.
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I mean, that things could fill it.
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You know, someone else will end up being that 1000 yards next year from that saying draft class and that person that had 1000 yards just drop off.
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Yeah, well, we have a lot to do with the team chemistry And how their bill and the persons owning the football? Obviously, Um, no, I just I like cd lamb. I like.
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I like him as a receiver coming out.
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He may be the best receiver that came out in this draft, to be honest with you.
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Um, but I agree with Ray.
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Uh, they just got they got a good run game, and I think they're gonna in one piece, break that.
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It's gonna be difficult.
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It's gonna be incredibly difficult now.
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Will nd broke that 3000 yards.
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Edgerrin James, I think, had 1500 yards rushing back season.
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Yeah, so I mean, that was That would be the type of year that the Cowboys would need to have righteous it.
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Yes, it looks.
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It's one of those situations where everything has to go right for the Cowboys.
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And when was the last time that happened? It's like, you know you can't stop the run, so you go to the past and you're catching the team Daugaard because they can't stop the run.
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So now, now they're trying to stop the run, and now it's easy to pass on him.
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Then you back off to try to stop the past.
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You just run it down their throats again.
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Just keep going back and forth.
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Everything has to go, right.
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Dallas never has anything going right.
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They had an outstanding team last year, minus CD last year and still finished What? Eight.
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You know, Uh, yes, Dad had a total numbers.
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Cooper, in this time with the Cowboys, had a turn in numbers, but I just I don't see it mainly mainly because look at the teams that they're gonna have to play against the defense is that they play against right.
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That's also a big situation then, and it had that kind of defense that they had to play against.
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And I'd also like to throw out that in 2000 and four.
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Did Indianapolis not also still of Dallas, Clark and Woollard? Is there tight ends Yuri mean, which it That's quite an upgrade when you look at um, Blake Jar win and Dalton Schultz for her, the Dallas Cowboys.
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Um and yeah, I mean, Zeke had 1300 yards and rushing last year, and he would probably have to get an extra 300 to really put the kind of pressure for three guys to hit 1000 yards.
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I mean, I think Marty's crazy.
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Let's also not forget that a Mark Cooper got shut out an entire game last season.
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You know, um, I think the fact if Zeke, since Zeke is Justus presence alone, he needs to get his touches right.
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You need to give him his touches.
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And, like you said, he hasn't rushed for under 1300 yards.
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There was only that one season where he was suspended for the 1st 6 games, right, But aside from that, he's always been 1300 yards plus on the ground.
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So you need to feed Zeke, and I'm afraid that these receivers.
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I mean, they're just not going to get all the opportunities and look.
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Even last year, Amari Cooper just hit shy over 1100 yards.
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It's not like this guy had 1800 yards, and it's not like there was yardage just spread around.
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Also, another concern that I have is that Michael Gallup had drop issues.
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So if you can't fix that, I mean, you can't really count on him to be 1000 yard receiver, either.
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Yeah.
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I mean, I don't want to be this guy, but are we really expecting Michael Gallup to be a consistent 1000 yard receiver like he? That's never really to me.
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Has never been that guy.
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That's going to be consistently 1000 yards.
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You got it. I think you got 1000 yards last year.
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Did he not? Michael, go.
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I have this steps up here.
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Yeah, he had just over 1100 as well, 11 7 I mean, and it's but his catch percentages so bad.
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I mean, last season, 58.
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4% in his rookie season, 48.5.
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So I mean again, he's eight, that he was eighth in the league amongst receivers and drops last year.
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Eighth, I thought he was a lot higher than that.
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See, like I just did a breakdown that you're sorry story? No, he was first with 11.
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My bad property was 9.8.
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Yeah, I've seen I've seen Deck.
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I've watched his games.
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I broke his games down and he had 4900 yards passing last year.
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And I bet you he left 150 on the field in just one single game because and he threw for like, 400 yards that game.
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But because he was throwing so badly toe wide, open, wide receivers, they would have to catch the football and go down immediately because they had they just a route so drastically, you know, or reach behind them when they're wide open.
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Slow down, turn around, catch the football out.
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Allowed defenders to catch up to him Had he been accurate, I think last year he could have, he could have ran for ah record, you know, throwing the football and I'm not seeing I'm not seeing that getting better when it comes to leading a receiver.
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Accuracy throwing them open and said it throwing to an open receiver great it finding the open receiver, but he's not good at throwing them and keeping them open when he throws the football.
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And I think even if he's throwing to the open receiver, let's go back to Michael Gallup for second just because that's what we're on and was looking at his numbers.
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Um, so one of my new favorite stats is called The True Catch reading.
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And what it does is it divides the number of targets, two catchable balls and the Bulls that you catch hits 71.7%.
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He was 102nd in the NFL for a true catch rating.
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That means balls that should have been caught.
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He caught 71% of catchable footballs.
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You know, those were perfect will catchable balls.
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I mean, e mean if that guy improves at the 1500 yard receiver, Sure, but again, I've never seen Michael Gallup is a consistent 1000 yard guy.
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Um, I'm a fan of Michael Gallup.
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Um, good Colorado kid.
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You heard? I mean, but it's and then again, I don't away from Dak Lee from everybody.
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It's to put that kind of pressure on CD.
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Lamb is insane.
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and on top of that to put him in 88 as well.
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But, I mean, that's that was an old topic that we already discussed.
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So, uh, did you guys want to hear about the trio that had at least 900 receiving yards? Because that's a little less of an exclusive club.
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But let me just say from the top, I don't even think that they could break that.
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I don't even think that they could break 900 each who were the 900 to 900? All right, so we got New England on here three times, actually, 1994 with Ben Coates, Michael Timpson and Vincent Brisby.
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But they were also in 2011 with Wes Welker, Gronk and Aaron Hernandez.
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Um and then in 2014 with Edelman, Gronk and Brandon LaFell.
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Really? Yep.
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Brandon LaFell had 980 9 53 yacht, even not even the season where they had Moss.
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And that was 50 type that owns and all that.
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I know because I would have been just him and Wes Welker.
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So there was also Oakland in 2000 to Jerry Rice, Charlie Garner and Tim Brown That was our Super Bowl year, right? When the last.
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Yep. Obey? I think so.
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I think so.
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You have Dallas, Um, in 2012 Jason Witten, Dez and Miles Austin.
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I remember that year.
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Um, I do to what a disappointment Miles Austin turned into right. Right.
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New Orleans in 2012 as well.
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Jimmy Graham marquees Colston and Lance More all had at least 900.
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And then the last time this happened was actually this past season in 2019.
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And can you guess who it was? Baltimore.
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Because it sounds stupid like that.
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Kansas City has be Kansas City, you know.
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No, you have a guess, Lawrence.
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Ah makes sense when you hear it.
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It will make sense, but it's it's kind of hard to think about New Orleans.
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No.
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Is that can you give me is a native steer NFC A F C A F C U C buffalo.
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And there's going to be something stupid.
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Like the bills.
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No.
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I mean, is it always that Cleveland? No, no, no.
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Who you're gonna tell you? The division? Yeah, I guess.
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The Division A f C West.
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And it's not the Chiefs Chargers Yep. In that hospital.
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Chargers? Yep.
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That's it.
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Keenan Allen Austin, eh? Killer and Mike Williams.
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So there you go. Make sense.
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The dozen doesn't all at the same time.
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Right? S.
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So I thought that was pretty fun, but yeah.
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I mean, I don't know.
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Do do we think that they could even break 900? No, I can't put that on CD Lamb.
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I'm expecting 600 yards out of him.
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And it's nothing to do with him as receivers.
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A rookie right there.
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He's going to go up against some savvy cornerbacks who know how to be this speed.
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Right, that they're going to get physical with him.
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Um, one of the knocks on him is he's gotta put a little bit of weight on especially muscle weight.
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You what? I mean, and it's again.
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It's no knock on CD land.
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Maybe next year we could have the same conversation next year.
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And maybe I changed my mind.
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Set all three go. 900.
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I just don't see CD lamb to a 900 yards receipt receiving this year.
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Okay, Fair enough.
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Um, so actually also brought up just passes dropped as a team.
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I thought that if you guys wanted to hear this.
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Um, number one is the Miami Dolphins with 28 1 Yeah, Number two is actually the Bills with 26.
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Number three.
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You got the Bears with 25 shadow to Travis Key.
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And then at number four, it's the Dallas Cowboys with 24.
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So I mean, top five and drops.
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And then can you guess who number five was doing great? Yep. New.
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So why was 24 in Tony for and Story and Michael Catholic at 11? Right? Crazy cells? So if they can't fix that issue, I mean this 900 yards isn't even an option.
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Seriously, you know.
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So they had 19 drops between.
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They're two top receivers between Amari Cooper and Michael Gallup.
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Yeah, there you go.
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Used well, what's considered a drop.
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If you get both hands on it, that's a drop.
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It's a catchable football.
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Any ball that's deemed a catchable football that gets dropped, its got hit your hands.
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But what about like if you're running around and the ball's thrown way behind you and you like slowing down and reaching back and you get your both your hands on it.
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But it goes through your hands.
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That's not a That's not a drop.
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A drop is ah, clean.
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I looked this up, the other not long to go to figure this out because arguing with somebody about the same thing because I thought it was like that.
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I thought that receivers get punished like a quarterback.
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It's punished for an interception if it bounces out of the guy's hands.
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Uh, no.
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A drop passes deemed a catchable football.
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So anything, even a cat some catches that get made aren't deemed catchable.
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Balls like balls behind guys that they reach back.
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They're not Dean Catchable footballs.
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They actually, they actually count those that catches that were uncatchable snow.
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It's a catchable ball that was, you know, in the hands or in the in an area that should have been caught.
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High percentage catches.
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That's what the battles.
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So if he's 11 drop, he could have like 20 drops.
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When you put in the other, you know, tougher catches, which are easy catches, right? Yeah, that's a thing.
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And that's look the difference between an elite receiver and a very good receiver are The guys who make the catch is you're not very good receiver in a good receiver and I put Michael Gallup in a good category is the guys who make the catch is that they're supposed to make right.
00:17:13
Randy Moss is an elite level guy because he makes the one handed Is this and that? I think.
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And in a sense, Odell Beckham Jr can be considered an elite with some of the catch is that he can make.
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Yeah, he's got some drop issues as well, which I think takes him out of the elite category.
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To be honest with you, even I think he is elite talent.
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He just hasn't mentally showed he's an elite receiver yet.
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Um, but like that's the difference to me.
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And that's why Michael Gallup, to me, is a good receiver, because, yeah, he's gonna make the catch is he needs to make and he's fast is hell.
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And when you're number two to Amari Cooper, it's going to give you opportunity to catch the football.
00:17:46
But you can't have 11 drops, you know.
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I mean, you know, that's just that's pathetic.
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It's like PR phone.
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Uh, he went great at making stupid catches, but if you threw the ball right between the numbers.
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You know that I percent chance he's going to drop the sucker, man.
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I mean, but yeah, uh, sometimes you have those kind of players, and sometimes sometimes those players quarterbacks have gotta have it in their head.
00:18:13
Okay, so I can't throw it right between the numbers.
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I'm gonna throw it over here, you know? So I don't know if this is a little bit of a hot take, but I'm gonna say it anyway, because that's what I do.
00:18:25
I just always thought Amari Cooper was a little overrated.
00:18:28
Men, in my opinion, like I don't think he's a bad receiver, but I don't think he's like top talent elite level that a lot of people make him out to be.
00:18:36
I definitely don't put him in top five.
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I know a lot of people that do.
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I don't.
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Yeah, um, if this would have been prior to last season, this would have been one of those times that I You know, Joe, you're full of crap.
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I didn't really compile it that high.
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I'll go by the eye test on this one.
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I mean, we've looked at all the numbers.
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We know what it is.
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I'll go by the eye test on this one.
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I watched.
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Um, Stefan Gilmore covered DeAndre Hopkins.
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I watched him cover brown and buffalo.
00:19:04
You mean in and not even though they just best him at times you saw an actual good battle between, you know, to meet a receiver and cornerback.
00:19:15
There was no battle between Amari Cooper.
00:19:20
Um, like I said, my biggest laugh of that is Gilmore had more touches off ADAC than the Mari did, you know, And to me, that was, like from an eye test.
00:19:28
That was one of the telling signs of like, Okay, you know, I mean, like, I watched good receivers give Hopkins problems even when he has won the battle.
00:19:38
I've seen the problems.
00:19:39
There was zero problem of the Marquis Cooper, so I kind of agree that I think I don't think he's a battery.
00:19:44
See, providing means.
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But I think there is a little bit of an over rate and overrating their I mean, there's a reason that group wanted to get rid of them, right? Like it's a little I've been make chicken blood's brings up a good point, only complain at home.
00:19:56
That's true.
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Even I mean everybody said he disappeared on the road last year.
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I just always thought he was a little soft to me.
00:20:03
You know, he's just a little, I don't know.
00:20:05
That's just how I felt.
00:20:07
I think Cooper is a really, really good route runner.
00:20:11
Yeah, I think he can catch the football.
00:20:14
I think his problem is that he has an issue of not wanting to get hit with.
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The ball gets there latches problem.
00:20:29
So apiece wide open.
00:20:31
You know, if he knows he's got to step on a guy or knows that he's not going to get hit with, the ball gets there.
00:20:36
You're not going to see an issue with him catching the football.
00:20:39
But if he has got a defender d****d over the top of it, that's where the issue he's got good.
00:20:46
He's got good ability to use his route running and size and speed in order to get his separation.
00:20:55
But if he does not get that separation, don't throw him the football.
00:20:59
Yeah, that is not what he's not talking right? Exactly, and that's that's the type of receiver I like.
00:21:06
I've always said Hopkins is my number one receiver in the league because this man just catches everything and he produces even when he has crafted quarterback.
00:21:15
Right? I I think Amari Cooper has to be in the perfect situation.
00:21:19
It has to be against zone like MK chicken blobs says Create separation with routing Matt.
00:21:24
Men will shut him down. I agree with that.
00:21:26
I think that Amari Cooper is just not physical.
00:21:28
He's not gonna fight the corners, man.
00:21:30
If he gets outmuscled, you know, he kind of gets should town.
00:21:34
In my opinion, Yeah, and you guys kind of took the words out of my mouth.
00:21:37
Now I will make the cowboy argument.
00:21:40
Right now, people are going to turn around and say He was 13th in the league and contested catches 48%.
00:21:46
No, those air high thrown footballs and Amari Cooper is eight feet tall.
00:21:52
It in conjunction really high.
00:21:54
That's contested catches two guys jumping up over a football.
00:21:57
That's nothing to with physicality.
00:21:59
You want to talk about how well he doesn't zone compared demand a man, the average passing route.
00:22:06
So when they throw him, the football is 2.
00:22:09
6 yards off the line of scrimmage.
00:22:11
That was his average catch off a Dak Prescott 2.
00:22:14
6 yards off the line of scrimmage.
00:22:17
That just shows you how well he can dominate man or a dominate zone and can pick up eight yards before anybody can get to him, then can use the speed to get by.
00:22:27
Um, man to man will kill him because a 2.
00:22:31
6 he's still getting he's still getting rubbed at 2.
00:22:33
6 yards out the line of scrimmage.
00:22:36
Okay, so there you go.
00:22:38
I'm surprised we all agree.
00:22:39
I thought we were all going to get into a little bit of an argument here, but I'm glad I like the talent on the Cowboys.
00:22:45
I think that they could have an absolutely outstanding season, but 3 1000 yard receivers.
00:22:54
It's just so hard to do and everything. It's gotta be.
00:22:57
No, if that on point, if there is a receiver on the Cowboys that I do like his physicality, it CD lamb.
00:23:02
I mean, this guy, he was my favorite receiver coming out this past season.
00:23:06
I know a lot of people love Jerry Judy because of his route running, and obviously you know that's a good quality to have.
00:23:11
But CD just breaks, tackles men.
00:23:14
He's physical, you know? Like I look, that's the style of play I love.
00:23:17
Maybe it's because I'm a Ravens fan, but I know it's You know what CD Lamb was right on the top of my The Patriots won't take him.
00:23:25
But, God, I wish they would. You know me.
00:23:27
Because any time I have a guy at the top of my draft board, I just know it's not gonna happen, right? Uh, no.
00:23:33
I like city lamb to you.
00:23:34
I think he deserved to be the number one pick in the draft.
00:23:36
To be honest with you, right? It's, um because of this.
00:23:40
I think that I guess that Jerry Jones was absolutely floored when, when? When he fell to him, right and fell to the Cowboys.
00:23:47
So it's Ah, it's It's, I think, that he's got a lot of good talent, but I'm not a He's a rookie.
00:23:53
He's gonna be 600 maybe 700 yards.
00:23:56
Max McCarthy is one to baby his rookies right and not exposed them because I remember once watching a um I think was a Brady do***ent. The Brady six.
00:24:08
They were talking about his drive class they're talking about the guy that got drafted into San Francisco and basically he got beat up in the Hall of Fame game and he was never the same after that.
00:24:17
And the coaches were saying, It doesn't matter what position you play in the NFL if you have a really bad rookie season that can completely just tear it your confidence to for the rest of your career.
00:24:28
And I think there's gonna be a lot of high expectations for CD Lamb, considering his draft status, considering where the Cowboy them right, it has to be.
00:24:42
And I think that you need to put all the pressure on Gallup and Amari Cooper and you.
00:24:46
You see the lamb sparingly and I If, honestly, if I'm McCarthy, I'm saving him in his physicality and speed for the playoffs.
00:24:56
You what? I mean, it's not going to use them, But then that's gonna be sort of my weapon that I hold, you know, And Harbaugh's really good at doing this ballot shacks really good at doing this kind of keeping a guy in their back pocket that nobody's really paying attention to it.
00:25:08
Then all of a sudden playoff time comes around and they come explode.
00:25:12
And that could be a time.
00:25:14
Um, if McCarthy's smart and in my opinion is he's a really good coach.
00:25:19
Um, die week.
00:25:22
Dallas can get to the get to the playoffs.
00:25:26
Fair enough.
00:25:27
Fair enough.
00:25:28
All right, well, um And then, of course, we also didn't mention you know how we all feel about Dak Prescott.
00:25:34
So throw all those factors in a swell as that.
00:25:37
So yeah, I think that's a no from all three of us.
00:25:41
Let's just steps from the main topics.
00:25:43
So there's been a lot of ridiculous sort of predictions made by players.
00:25:49
You know, this year, like, wasn't it? Ah, was it a Tyree kill that said he wanted a 2000 yard season, just like just absolute ludicrously or all the Chiefs players talking about a dynasty dynasty? Oh, my God, you win one Super Bowl? Yeah, like it's look, the Indianapolis Colts.
00:26:08
On paper, we're the best team in the league for 10 years.
00:26:12
Better than the Patriots.
00:26:14
Yeah, I mean, like, I mean, there was moments like 2007.
00:26:17
The Patriots had the best roster offensively, and defensively still didn't win the Super Bowl you know, um, Indianapolis, though on paper for 10 12 years, were the best team in the NFL and 11 Super Bowl out of it, right? It's so hard to win a Super Bowl.
00:26:37
Um, yeah.
00:26:39
There's gonna be a lot of disappointed people in the Cheese Kingdom.
00:26:42
I agree.
00:26:43
So speaking of that, we we actually all didn't get to talk about the NFL's top 100 or I think me and Lawrence to talk a little bit about it.
00:26:53
Right.
00:26:54
Um, but, Ray, I'm very, very curious to see how you reacted Or what did you think about this whole thing? Uh, homes for Aaron.
00:27:05
Donald being three d Russell Wilson being too.
00:27:07
And, of course, my men, Lamar Jackson being number one.
00:27:11
I had, um, two Chiefs fans.
00:27:16
Dismay had Patrick Mahomes at number three.
00:27:20
Russell Wilson.
00:27:21
I was a little shocked that I waas um I knew that I knew that Lamar Jackson was going to get voted number one.
00:27:29
I didn't even try to do my rankings.
00:27:31
I tried to guess which players like how the players would vote and, you know, I always find with these top one hundreds, and Tom Brady has been the beneficiary of this is, Well, it's very reactionary, a swell right? You know, it's it's not who's really the fastest who was the best last season.
00:27:48
Um, I actually have Donald R.
00:27:50
Aaron Donald going to number two because I know that people just think the drool over that guy.
00:27:54
Um, I had Lamar Jackson number one.
00:27:56
I had Patrick Mahomes at number three.
00:27:58
I had Russell Wilson in the top 10.
00:28:01
I think what surprised me, though, was I had stuff on Gilmore at five.
00:28:04
So nine kind of made me raise my eyebrows at that as well.
00:28:08
I'm drawing a blank now.
00:28:09
I'm just looking at the rest of this list.
00:28:11
Um, I just hate Michael Thomas, so I couldn't put him in the top 10 like it just and I thought he was city.
00:28:18
It was five, and I thought the players would hate his cry baby attitude a little too much.
00:28:23
Um, you know, it's Derrick Henry only being 10 I get with George.
00:28:32
Mr. McCaffrey, Number six.
00:28:34
You know what I mean? Like, isn't he a fight? The top five, it's, you know, it's That's when it starts getting tough.
00:28:41
Um, I didn't like Michael Thomas at five.
00:28:45
I like kids. Christian McCaffrey.
00:28:47
Around the top five.
00:28:48
George Kill at seven.
00:28:50
DeAndre Hopkins at eight.
00:28:51
It's funny.
00:28:52
I almost forgot about him, but I don't know.
00:28:55
I just I have no problem with Lamar.
00:28:57
Number one.
00:28:58
I knew that where he was going to be.
00:28:59
You know, as far as I'm concerned, I'm way more scared of Lamar than I am a Patrick Mahomes.
00:29:03
At least I was last year.
00:29:04
Let's see what happens this year.
00:29:06
Things change year to year, but as far as long as they're going into this season, I feel more coming on comfortable playing either team.
00:29:12
But I'm more comfortable playing the Chiefs, and I am playing Baltimore because they have to play both, um, and Donald's of just a beast who was probably the only shining lights on that crappy L.
00:29:22
A Rams team last year that Jared Goff allowed to just blow up on offense, right? Yeah, as soon as I saw Mahomes get that number four spot, I knew I knew that Lamar was gonna be number one.
00:29:36
We're that my home was number four hefty with number.
00:29:39
Or when he won the M V p crazy.
00:29:42
You would have thought that Mahomes would have been number one after the 50 touchdown season.
00:29:46
For sure.
00:29:47
That's just players showing that he's good, But he's not, is your? I mean, he's not this Jet I that people say, Yeah, what I think is that they're taking into account the team around him and also being with Andy Reid, right? That's flu.
00:30:00
That that's gotta be, would it? It's not a transcendent elite talent, because I do think Patrick Holmes is that, but we haven't necessarily just seen him with just, you know, a terrible supporting cast in having to raise everybody up around him necessarily.
00:30:17
We haven't seen Patrick Mahomes, and I know this is gonna sound stupid, but we haven't seen him really deal with controversy.
00:30:25
I know they had the knee injury.
00:30:26
I know we missed a couple of weeks, but we haven't seen him missing Tyree Kill and Travis Kelsey at the same time, right? Like people can turn around well, He lost Travis Carry lost Tyreek Hill for a few weeks.
00:30:37
Yeah, but he still had Sammy walk ins and Travis Kelsey, like most teams, have won elite receiver one elite tight end or two elite receivers you're talking to elite receivers, a tight end and the third receiver.
00:30:50
What's his name? Aardman, who's probably a number two on most people's teams.
00:30:56
So he has the offensive weapons around him.
00:30:59
Um, you know, and I know you can take into consideration.
00:31:03
He came back against the Texans and all that kind of, you know, crab.
00:31:07
But I think I agree he hasn't He didn't do it. Lamar did.
00:31:10
With what I think your way, you know, inferior weapons.
00:31:13
He didn't do a braided in a couple of years ago with Julian.
00:31:17
Edelman is the top receiver on his team.
00:31:19
You know, it's if you just go into those when you take that in consideration, and I think that we've there's a formula to beat Patrick Mahomes.
00:31:31
It's not easy, but there's a formula, you know.
00:31:34
That's my whole thing.
00:31:36
We've seen teams do it at times.
00:31:38
The Patriots did it twice before last season.
00:31:42
In the regular season and in the playoffs.
00:31:44
There is a formula.
00:31:45
It's not easy to execute and everything has to go right for you to be able to execute that formula.
00:31:53
We still don't know.
00:31:54
I think that coaches can try to put a formula for Lamar Jackson.
00:31:58
I think there's little nuances that have been figured out, but whether or not they can execute it and it's a real formula, it's still yet to be seen, right.
00:32:07
And we'll see this season whether or not it actually works or not with with with my homes, there is a formula.
00:32:13
The Texans did it until they didn't you what? I mean, um, took over? Yeah, till Bill Brian took over.
00:32:19
You know, the Patriots did it for in the two games.
00:32:22
They won for a long time until they didn't.
00:32:23
At some point, he kind of breaks through it.
00:32:25
But if you consider low him down enough, the near offense can score points.
00:32:30
Then they Kansas City, then kind of gets in trouble, right? And we've seen it.
00:32:34
The news, The Titans this year, something like just defect since the Titans and the cold.
00:32:38
All three f eating beat him in the regular season.
00:32:41
Yeah, and they were all just you know, So there is a way and, you know, some of that formula is keep him off the field.
00:32:48
But defensively they were stopping them is stopping him as well.
00:32:51
So there's a formula there.
00:32:52
Where's with Lamar Jackson? We have not seen a formula and there was a formula in his 50 touchdown season.
00:33:00
You know, it's and that's another big piece and some teams pulled it off.
00:33:04
We haven't seen that with Laker Lamar.
00:33:06
And that's why Lamar deserves to sit at number one right now.
00:33:08
Not Patrick moms.
00:33:11
I like it. I'll take again.
00:33:13
Yeah, I would've gay C and C two or three and I think he's just important to his team there.
00:33:20
Donald is is I mean, sure this solders to it? Yeah, I think.
00:33:24
Yeah, her story.
00:33:25
Who's that? You kind of cut out on me.
00:33:27
Christian McCaffrey.
00:33:28
Christian McCaffrey.
00:33:29
Yeah, absolutely.
00:33:31
He should have been a top five, like not Number six.
00:33:34
I would have put him over it.
00:33:35
Michael Thomas, For sure, I would put more Michael Thomas Howes, and here's another thing.
00:33:39
I mean, look, maybe this is me.
00:33:41
This may be the sour g****s to me picking hairs, but the defensive player of the year fall seven spots behind another defensive player.
00:33:52
You know what I mean? It's so and again, it all comes down to reactionary stuff and consistency.
00:33:59
Um, I think that if you know, if Patrick Mahomes does again, you know, wins the Super Bowl again, the players are gonna have no choice but to do it in less.
00:34:09
Lamar Jackson goes gunshot.
00:34:11
But if Lamar goes one and out again in the playoffs, it's gonna be, you know, me then he's gonna get that ****** on his back, and then that's gonna become a bit of the story if you know.
00:34:20
And again, the player rankings are always a little bit different than and it's a little bit of politics, right? You know, it's you're gonna vote for your body.
00:34:30
You're gonna vote for this.
00:34:31
You're gonna bone for that Attack was like 43 Carson once wasn't even on the list.
00:34:37
I mean, come on, now.
00:34:38
Well, I I wouldn't have Ah.
00:34:43
Now let's let's talk.
00:34:45
Did you guys see the react? Now let's talk a reaction.
00:34:47
Did you see Keenan Allen snapping about how he's the best receiver in the league? And he started get into a war of words with Tyree Kill and Sammy Watkins and Michael Thomas and all the boys.
00:35:00
I mean, there was ah, there it was to me that was, like, the funniest interaction.
00:35:06
Watch back and forth.
00:35:07
And in Keenan Allen was just getting roasted.
00:35:10
Yeah, Anything to add Lord concert? No wide receiver for wide receiver wide receivers.
00:35:20
They're going to be wide receivers. That's true.
00:35:22
Um, no, but yeah, I totally agree with your A I mean, I think that I can totally see why Lamar was voted as the number one player here.
00:35:31
Um, I mean, quite simply, this is a everybody that pretty much everybody that saw Lamar during the regular season there, like he's the best player we've seen this year so far, right? So they're gonna take that they're gonna vote for him and obviously everybody he started getting, you know, everybody wanted to watch Lamar Place.
00:35:49
So of course, 2019 was Lamar Jackson's year.
00:35:53
You know, at least the regular season.
00:35:55
Obviously, the Chiefs are gonna be remembered for winning the Super Bowl.
00:35:58
But Lamar is gonna be remembered for his amazing 2019 and for the unanimous league M v p.
00:36:04
So I can totally see why he got number one.
00:36:06
I want to throw something out too, and I swear to God, this is not sour g****s.
00:36:10
This is me.
00:36:11
Just trying to be is realistic possible right now, right? I mean, are we serious that Tom Brady is the 14th best player in the NFL? That that that he's better than to Sean Watson, Travis Kelsey, Nick Bosa, Chandler Jones? Like those are just the four names I'm looking at right now.
00:36:33
Khalil Mack.
00:36:34
I thinks a little overrated when we talk about overrated players.
00:36:36
I put him in that Amari Cooper categories think he's a great player, but I think that.
00:36:41
But I'm looking at some of these names and I'm looking.
00:36:44
Going Tom Brady on ah rated standpoint is not better than these guys.
00:36:50
You know, I'm not trying to dismiss this list to dismiss limb or anything like that.
00:36:53
I'm just saying, like, I look at some of these names and go like this is just the players felt like they had to vote for Tom Brady. I totally agree.
00:37:01
I mean, just like with the whole air and Donald thing.
00:37:03
It's respect is a big factor in this.
00:37:06
I guarantee you, because I remember even like JJ what a couple years back where he had him played it all.
00:37:12
He was on the list just because he's JJ.
00:37:14
What? Right.
00:37:15
So it's It's a matter of Oh, it's Tom Brady.
00:37:18
Gotta respect to go through with it.
00:37:20
Yeah, and Jamal Adams is 27 that Richard Sherman is 28th you know, like it's stately.
00:37:28
Should not be close in in where they're being ranked together.
00:37:32
And I don't know, I just look at your telling me that when we rank the best players, today's Richard Sherman is better than sick.
00:37:38
Want Barkley? You know what I mean? When we're talking about talk players going into 2020.
00:37:43
And then if I said to you, you could have Barkley or Sherman and not your current team does your starting with one of these two guys right now? Yep.
00:37:52
The current Richard Sherman is not Richard Sherman from 10 years ago.
00:37:56
I'm going with the Kwame Barkley, the best running back in the NFL.
00:38:00
You know, like, absolutely outlook that over one of my players when I saw that various Leonard was only 50.
00:38:11
Mm.
00:38:12
Was he the highest colt on the list? Oh, no, no.
00:38:16
Oh, well, Quinton Nelson.
00:38:17
That's right.
00:38:18
Yeah, but Nelson was like 29 uh, which is the highest? I think all offensive lineman or something like it is like the highest guard ever in history to be ****d like that.
00:38:29
But I totally get I Just the year before, Leonard was, like, 23 or something like that.
00:38:37
His we season.
00:38:38
And this year he was ranked 50th because he missed three games due to a concussion.
00:38:44
But he ended up having hey, still, Yeah, he had a few less tackles because only, obviously you're going to when you missed three games, but the rest of the stats will stupid high.
00:38:56
He had five lead, all all linebackers and interceptions and had forced fumbles and all that other crap.
00:39:02
You know, I don't get it.
00:39:05
I don't I don't get how how they ****d me sometimes.
00:39:10
Yeah, I agree with you.
00:39:12
And again, it's a player thing, right? Um, you know, I look at some of the guys who made it on.
00:39:21
Ah, Darren Waller was 99.
00:39:25
The guy that's on the trading block, You know what I mean? Um, Julian Edelman was one a one.
00:39:32
You know, it's but it you know, I don't know.
00:39:37
It's there is a law.
00:39:39
And again, I think, some of it.
00:39:41
It's a popularity contest.
00:39:42
Some of it is.
00:39:43
What have you done for me lately? Listening.
00:39:45
I love Larry Fitz Jail.
00:39:47
You all know I love Larry Fitzgerald.
00:39:48
I do nothing but praise the man if there's anybody in the NFL and I never used the word deserve.
00:39:54
But if there's anybody in the NFL that deserves the hoist, the Lombardi Trophy, it's Larry Effin Fitzgerald.
00:40:00
He is not the 69th best player in the NFL anymore.
00:40:05
No, I'm sorry, Larry.
00:40:07
You're not a top 100. I'm sorry.
00:40:09
It's a name thing.
00:40:10
It's a respect thing. It has to be.
00:40:12
I love you, but you're not there anymore.
00:40:14
You know, you're not eight spots worse than Jarvis Landry and 10 spots worse than Odell Beckham Jr.
00:40:23
You know, you're just not and he live in Larry.
00:40:27
Larry Legends? Um, yes.
00:40:30
Oh, Okay.
00:40:31
Well, anything else that we wanted to touch on, I mean Oh, Well, how about the patriots? You know, losing pretty much half their team to the opt out.
00:40:39
You could.
00:40:40
You know what? It's not actually is bad as it looks.
00:40:42
Eight players now, Dante.
00:40:45
Hi.
00:40:46
Tires a big hit.
00:40:47
That's the big one.
00:40:48
That's the one that made me go when I first with the names were first coming is like Patrick Chung.
00:40:52
We got Kyle Duggar leadership.
00:40:56
We can deal with it.
00:40:57
Marcus Cannon.
00:40:59
You know, they're starting right tackle, but he's been on the decline for the last couple of years.
00:41:04
But, I mean, we got a couple of young guys coming up. Let's see how they do.
00:41:07
Uh, two of them are practice squad guys, so I don't even her Three of them are practice squad guys.
00:41:12
You know, we lost the tally.
00:41:15
We didn't even know Fatality was gonna be the starting fullback of Yacoubi Johnson, who came in last year for Devlin before he got hurt.
00:41:21
Matt Lacoste is a joke.
00:41:23
I was at, like to me.
00:41:24
He opted out since he was signed as an undrafted free agent 10 years ago.
00:41:28
But dont a Hightower.
00:41:29
I was up, you know, for the card.
00:41:31
If that's the one that made me go who, um, that that was rough.
00:41:36
Especially since we lost Jamie Collins landed Roberts and Kyle D Illinois in the off season.
00:41:41
Number two, If you go back even the 2017 season when they lost to the Eagles.
00:41:48
For a lot of that was the year I was surprised they went to the Super Bowl because the defense was bad in it.
00:41:53
Got bad after high Tower went out.
00:41:57
He's a natural leader on that team.
00:41:59
He and when he went out injured, you could just going to see the defense fall apart.
00:42:04
I'm worried about the middle.
00:42:05
The middle is young, Um, you know, people.
00:42:08
I've seen things people like well assigned to Davian Clowney, and we have money now, but that doesn't fulfill what dont a Hightower does in the middle.
00:42:16
That's my concern to me that has now dropped the Patriots.
00:42:20
From what I was saying is the best defense in the league toe.
00:42:24
It's still a top 10 but I think losing him is gonna drop the status of the best of league to maybe fifth.
00:42:30
To be honest, I think that's how much of an impact he makes.
00:42:33
Unless somebody really steps up and I don't know who that's gonna be.
00:42:37
I mean, job.
00:42:38
Bentley, who's a good run stopper, has showed that when high towers not on the field, he's lost cause He kind of coaches a mop out there.
00:42:46
So unless he takes a big step, that's concerned.
00:42:48
The rest of the guys were like, Whatever.
00:42:50
I'm really not concerned about the other seven.
00:42:52
High Tower was the one to me that was worth 20 guys.
00:42:54
When he went out, I was like It had just had a baby two weeks ago, and that's, you know, you almost should have known it was coming, but that's what's gonna hurt them the most is high Tower.
00:43:04
Be note.
00:43:05
I don't know how they're going.
00:43:06
I honestly don't know how they're going to recover from that.
00:43:08
I'm looking at Patriot stands.
00:43:09
I'm talking about you pay tree stands right now.
00:43:11
Stop talking about which tight end we will.
00:43:16
Linebacker is now the biggest gaping hole that we have on this team, and that's the one that because, like Cam Nunes on this team, this team still has to be a good defense.
00:43:26
Let's not kid ourselves.
00:43:27
Cam Newton is not gonna prove this team to a point that the defense doesn't have to be good.
00:43:31
So that's my concern, Joe, the other seven. It is what it is.
00:43:34
We can survive without them and we already kind of had Patrick Trump's replacement were just now kind of escalating this up a year.
00:43:41
It was supposed to be next year that he take over.
00:43:43
Ah, the high tower things scary, though.
00:43:45
Also last point.
00:43:47
This bs of guys were trying to run away from Ballot Shack, and it's because he has no fun.
00:43:52
And that Brady was there like Chung just signed a three year extension a month before he opted out.
00:43:57
You what? I mean, like, he could have very easily opted out this year and been a free agent.
00:44:01
So let's just let's just stop this nonsense.
00:44:05
So that's my That's my take on that.
00:44:07
They got their Super Bowl rings.
00:44:09
They're chilling, man.
00:44:10
They don't need Teoh.
00:44:11
They don't need to play.
00:44:12
Uh, you're hoping.
00:44:13
Yeah, yeah.
00:44:15
Now, how confident do you feel now about winning the East? Are you a little less confident now? Do you think we should favor the bills once again? I'm still confident with the East.
00:44:27
I'm not confident beyond that.
00:44:29
You mean I'm not confident? I I still to me with Newton and the rest of the defense.
00:44:36
I mean, we still have a solid defense everywhere else, um, were Miami is not going to run on us.
00:44:45
You and I mean the Jets.
00:44:47
Maybe they'll try with Lay beyond Bell.
00:44:49
But it was actually are outside guys that ate him up anyways, because he's not really a got runner.
00:44:54
He's more of, ah, finesse, the Bills running the football.
00:44:59
They have a running game that Singletary that can run straight up the middle again.
00:45:04
That's where my concern comes.
00:45:05
And that's where I think our strong safeties we're really gonna have toe.
00:45:09
That's where I think the safety, the strong safety, like a Duggar is gonna have to almost play a hybrid role of strong safety slash You know, sort of this.
00:45:17
The only thing, though, that where we lose in the middle line doctor with bringing in Kyle Duggar and losing Patrick Chung.
00:45:24
We actually have a guy that can cover a tight end now, which is something we haven't had in the past.
00:45:28
With Chung, he's always struggled against tight ends on Duggars, made a specialty of covering tight end, so we declined in one area, significantly improved other areas.
00:45:37
I still think the East is ours.
00:45:39
I'm worried, though, um, about having to play Kansas City on, terrified of having to play a Baltimore in the playoffs because you just run up the middle, you know? I mean, it's it's going to be It's gonna be a big problem for ah ah, it's good.
00:45:56
And I don't think our interior linemen are strong enough to make up for the lack of High Tower in the middle unless you want Bentley really, really, really takes some big step forward that we weren't expecting this year, and I kind of highly doubt that.
00:46:11
So he's just I think that he still runs through New England.
00:46:15
Um, but I mean, I'm not prepared to this point now to say Deep Super deep playoff run.
00:46:21
So what's all this this hullabaloo about Cam Newton have? Well, this may just be a Belichick thing.
00:46:29
Cam Newton has to earn his starting spot, But are we have seriously going to say that Jared Stadium will be out there Week one starting Camano.
00:46:38
And we talked about this with another coach, remember who was it and said that this guy has to earn a spot? We all kind of laughed and said they have to do it.
00:46:46
Who was it We did.
00:46:47
We covered this for another coach.
00:46:48
I can't remember now.
00:46:49
But he said the same thing like you have toe.
00:46:53
You know, the spots not open.
00:46:55
We just laughed. Valid check.
00:46:57
Can't say it's I've always said this.
00:46:59
The job is Kim.
00:47:00
I'm not saying that Cam Newton has the job right now.
00:47:04
I'm saying it's Cam Newton's toe.
00:47:06
Lose you what? I mean And if he comes out and looks like hell, The whole thing is, though, with no pre season with a very short training camp.
00:47:18
Um, we're not going to know until week six.
00:47:21
And by that point, it's gonna be too late anyways, So it's again, something would really, really have to screw up.
00:47:29
Um, for him not to start week one.
00:47:34
Yeah, that's for sure.
00:47:36
All right.
00:47:37
If he can't, I would rather them start Brian Hoyer.
00:47:42
Yeah, getting bigger chicken.
00:47:46
E Think he could want that once I think looking for Lord's.
00:47:52
Yeah, I want Trevor Lawrence.
00:47:54
So with high tower out, if Cam can't start, you might enjoy it.
00:47:58
You might as well put in Brian Hoyer.
00:48:01
Trade away.
00:48:02
Adul men just just tank it.
00:48:03
Bankable loser.
00:48:05
Unfortunately, I think that's in ballot checks.
00:48:07
Do you know Cam needs to start? Right? I spent 100 $54 on the jersey.
00:48:11
I have to wear that jersey, and it's not coming toe like October.
00:48:17
So Route spent more money on his jersey than Cam Newton's getting paid this year. Absolutely.
00:48:24
Absolutely.
00:48:28
Let me ask.
00:48:29
Let me ask you guys a question I should know.
00:48:33
I'm gonna call out Joe.
00:48:35
Okay, Let's let's be called him.
00:48:37
Let's do it.
00:48:40
You kind of ticked me off, Joe.
00:48:42
Okay? And not not because I had to take the pie in the face.
00:48:48
I didn't like the way you went about it.
00:48:51
And I just and I kind of called you out on Twitter, and I'm gonna call you a public now. Okay? Please.
00:48:56
I think celebrating the guide, being forced to stay home because the Koven is the same as me celebrating like Lamar Jackson tearing an A C L.
00:49:05
You know what I mean? I think it's I think it's the same.
00:49:07
I didn't like it.
00:49:08
I was drunk when I ran it.
00:49:10
I'll admit it.
00:49:11
And I was kind of like I could get.
00:49:12
Really? This could get way beyond what I wanted to get right now.
00:49:16
So I'm going.
00:49:17
But I think you won't have to Stafford an apology.
00:49:20
Okay, You know what? I'm actually glad you brought this up because I totally didn't even see it from that perspective.
00:49:26
I was not even thinking that.
00:49:27
I was just thinking You're a pie in the face, right? That's all.
00:49:31
That's literally the only thing I was thinking about.
00:49:33
I'm like, OK, that Mr Lyons.
00:49:37
Huh? Stafford will still start week one.
00:49:39
Yeah, he was taken off the covert list already.
00:49:42
So it was just It was in jest, but yeah, you're right.
00:49:46
It does totally look that I was celebrating a man having tea because of cove it and it makes me look insensitive. You're right.
00:49:54
Thank you, Ray.
00:49:55
Um, so I am.
00:49:56
I apologize to the Stafford family and Matthew Stafford.
00:49:59
I'm not celebrating that he had to miss football or whatever.
00:50:02
I would simply celebrating because I wanted to see if I in recently on.
00:50:07
Now he's ****ed.
00:50:08
I'm gonna make sure he knows about this time to keep tweeting them.
00:50:12
Just Joe laughed ecowas and cold.
00:50:16
There you every single time. Yeah, Yeah.
00:50:18
What is the bet before going further because this is escalated beyond belief.
00:50:22
Because all of a sudden, at one point, they just like yeah, yeah, yeah, I know.
00:50:26
But they had to make the playoffs, right? Was the original bet.
00:50:30
Yes.
00:50:31
Do they have to win the division or just make the playoffs playoffs? Okay, I'm comfortable.
00:50:34
That that's a comfortable one for me.
00:50:36
I wouldn't be because I know you've turned around itself like Super Bowl, and I'm like, What did I say? Yeah, like, yeah, we are.
00:50:43
You can get that extended wild card with that team I got.
00:50:46
Look, look, I gotta find the book.
00:50:49
I've I gotta admit, guys, we have a serious, serious issue.
00:50:52
What's that? I have lost the book with our record predictions with rpai vets with everything.
00:50:58
I am need to find the book.
00:51:00
I don't know what I did with It's got to be in the house, but I'm afraid that I brought it to my office because because my football book in my workbook or the same oh, and I could easily see myself grabbing the book, getting toe work when this is the wrong book and putting away and now I'm not back in my office like another month because we've had to shut down again.
00:51:20
So it's Ah, well, now we're spirit.
00:51:23
Nick wanted us to have the records.
00:51:25
I know.
00:51:26
When he wrote that, too, it was like, No, no, no, no, no.
00:51:31
I might have to go back and watch every freaking profession, show the our archive and just look at every single video man.
00:51:38
One of the interns do that like, is that we have all those.
00:51:41
It turns for that.
00:51:42
Always bragging about paying interns.
00:51:44
They have to watch an hour in every single video man that would take, like years.
00:51:49
Not really.
00:51:50
It's always the end.
00:51:51
We always do it kind of near the And so you just scrub through against the problem is that we don't like multiple ones like we have done like three team predictions on.
00:52:00
The thing is, it's there's gonna be times where we went over games already that, you know, foot flop, you know? Oh, yeah.
00:52:08
I also don't think it's being tracked properly if I could just say it because when he sent the list, he sent to saying that we did teams that we didn't do and that we didn't do teams that we did do.
00:52:18
So it's this confused me go out like I think he fixed that because on that list there was, like, 16 that said that we did.
00:52:28
And then when he came back, whether he was like, OK, there's only three teams left Okay? And I was like, Oh, we're done, I You finished it off, right? X did the Jags, Hillary the final one and I have them going to and 14.
00:52:42
I was gonna say, What did you give them? Two and 14? 14? That's right.
00:52:45
I thought for sure they would end up better than the Jet and I gave the Jets.
00:52:49
I think three and 13 and I went through.
00:52:52
I went through the Jaguars and I was just going through their games and knowing in my head, organic and dog ways not gonna be playing.
00:53:00
He said he will not play a snap for this team this year, and you know all this other stuff that's going through there and I'm like, I like I like B J.
00:53:10
I like men Shoot.
00:53:12
I think that as long as for net is healthy, he's a solid running back.
00:53:18
But outside of Alan, uh, on defense, they're screwed.
00:53:24
You know the draft.
00:53:26
You know C. J.
00:53:27
Henderson.
00:53:28
They drafted Caleb on Chase on oil.
00:53:30
You know, it's you know why? And here's the thing with our predictions, and it's something I don't think we've ever explained.
00:53:40
It's just something we I think we've just taken for granted.
00:53:43
But when we give our predictions, we give our predictions.
00:53:46
In the sense of this is what should happen.
00:53:48
I know a couple of times we've tried to call some upsets, but it's usually two good teams playing each other.
00:53:53
Like, you know, at some point, the Jaguars are probably gonna like beat.
00:53:57
And I'm not.
00:53:58
Seems like they're gonna beat Indy or something.
00:53:59
I mean, they're gonna be the team they're not supposed to be.
00:54:02
That's going to give them four wins or three wins.
00:54:05
There's not a lot of if you really go back.
00:54:07
There's usually only one Cincinnati every year.
00:54:09
You mean of the one.
00:54:10
There is no wind teams right.
00:54:12
We got a lot of teams within, like three games, which you know, could very easily win four or five because of a swing.
00:54:19
And look, it's It's the NFL, and I I'm gonna knock on what? I hope this doesn't happen.
00:54:24
But, you know, if if Lamar Jackson blows a knee, that Baltimore team is suddenly a very different team.
00:54:31
You know what I mean? If if you know if if if my homes is out for more than two weeks and maybe they survived with two weeks for Matt Moore, But they're not gonna win 10 games.
00:54:39
You know what I mean? Mawr without without, um the guy Patrick Mahomes.
00:54:45
You know, the half a $1,000,000,000 man.
00:54:47
So it's That's the whole thing about the NFL to, and I mean, Jesus, like the Cleveland Browns have won the Super Bowl.
00:54:53
How many years in a row now? Yeah, that's true.
00:54:57
So just out of curiosity, Lawrence, who were the two winds that you gave the check? Do you remember Scott to be in her conference externally? Oh, yeah, that's right.
00:55:09
I got beating the Indianapolis Colts in Jacksonville in Jacksonville.
00:55:14
The courts have not beat Jack.
00:55:17
The Colts have not be the Jags in Jacksonville.
00:55:23
Ah, and like the last six funds also there due for a win.
00:55:29
Yeah, maybe so.
00:55:31
Why did that on.
00:55:32
Who's the other team? Um, I think it was.
00:55:37
I have a feeling they always break the Titans.
00:55:40
Sensi, I think, since since he so you have the titans sweeping them and you have Houston sweeping them.
00:55:47
Yeah, but you got the loss to Indy. Probably.
00:55:49
Who's the best team in that division? I don't want to be considered, you know, picking favorite.
00:55:55
No.
00:55:56
See, you see, you are like, if you're you're more likely.
00:56:02
See, Joe has no shame.
00:56:04
And I like, you know, no shame with his where you're, like, more like me.
00:56:09
Like I'm almost harder on the Patriots because I so badly don't want to be seen as a homer that I do stupid things that time.
00:56:16
Like all they're gonna lose this game.
00:56:18
Um, except had any going 12 and four, even with that loss of Jackson.
00:56:23
Now I will see something that might irritate you.
00:56:28
I know I for almost all the offseason I've had India's the best team in that division, and the more and more I thought about it a little bit of this use convincing me I no longer believe that the best team that divisional excellent say that Texans I have Houston When that division Lawrence convinced me.
00:56:42
Lawrence convinced me that they're a better team this year than they were last year, and it's Ah, but we need more, uh, to think they're worth defense this year and in the plays, watching well, every game defensively.
00:57:00
So that's if they didn't have to play Indianapolis.
00:57:04
And I didn't have to play Tennessee because those two, those two fight no threepeat.
00:57:10
They always fight each other hard.
00:57:12
Yeah, they almost always split.
00:57:14
It's a pretty scrappy isn't Bill O'Brien now in a year where, like this has to be a must win year for him, right? Like, Well, let me crabby keeps going to the playoffs angry.
00:57:26
He keeps going to the playoffs in every year.
00:57:28
Everybody's like, Well, he needs to be fired.
00:57:31
But this what playoff? But which, at which point is I'm not good enough.
00:57:37
That's true, like especially like you have to Sean Watson, you know, and I think now, as Lawrence convinced me, he's given to Sean Watson more weapons.
00:57:45
He's lost the best weapon in the league, but his ****nal has opened up where he's not reliant on one guy.
00:57:52
So, in essence, he has more weapons toe work with this year, still has an awful offensive line, which could be, Ah, crucial issue.
00:58:00
That seemed to be another team that never wants to address the offensive line.
00:58:03
Like they just let's let him run.
00:58:04
What's now? You don't need to.
00:58:07
Yeah, just wasn't is not convinced.
00:58:09
Could be Kansas City's philosophy for years to Yeah, well, we have Patrick Mahomes inure to the ball quickly, you know? And that's what Baltimore to Indianapolis Colts Lying on how we handled.
00:58:18
Look, yeah, but you know what, though? That's where Yeah, the cold.
00:58:24
And it's funny because you have Peyton, where you're like the greatest offensive line.
00:58:27
Maybe in the history of the game.
00:58:29
Definitely the best center standing, the only means standing in front of him.
00:58:32
And then you go, Andrew Luck recall the exact opposite road since Li and then his last season of his career.
00:58:38
That's what you put that.
00:58:42
Here you go, man.
00:58:43
But you know, and this is always where I the car ball and who's the GM in Baltimore? It's It's Eric DeCosta.
00:58:53
NAFTA costly Ozzie Newsome because he newsome Yeah, well, Newsome was for years, right, but It's the cost of them.
00:58:58
And that's where Baltimore's been really smart.
00:59:00
And I think this has John are our balls, Even though the cost might be the GM, Harbaugh has got to be involved with the decision making of personnel, and it's almost a New England sort of way of doing things to write, don't spend a lot of money on weapons.
00:59:16
You what? I mean, it's it's have the basics.
00:59:20
The offensive line, you know, the running backs, the full backs, the guys who can block for the for your quarterback.
00:59:25
You need a good quarterback, Um, really mean and then from there, have a solid defense and good special teams and disperse that money where you see other teams where it's like the Chiefs where they spent no money on defense.
00:59:39
I know they think that defense is going to start deteriorating after this season when, especially when that you know, half a $1,000,000,000 contract kicks in and it's gonna be an offensive heavy team with no offensive line.
00:59:51
It's gonna be a pure weapons team.
00:59:53
You what I mean and that's going to start causing issues.
00:59:55
Where is when you look at those teams that build that foundation and, you know, and then indie I'm okay with the way they did things with Manning.
01:00:03
Yeah, you didn't spend much on the defense, but the offense was complete.
01:00:07
The offensive line, the weapons, the tight ends yet a little bit of running back issues for a while, especially when you have like, is the Joseph A.
01:00:14
Di who was running for you for a bit.
01:00:16
And then Peyton Manning and your offenses had to score more points in the defense let up, which is fine.
01:00:21
But you had a complete team, right? It's where other guys, they spend way too much money on receivers and running backs and then go, Oh, ****.
01:00:28
We have no offensive line and no defense cold.
01:00:32
They they spent their money in a strategic area on the defense.
01:00:36
They knew they were going to score points.
01:00:38
So they went out, you know, and they put money and Dwight Freeney and Robert Mathis knowing that team to throw the football, we're gonna have to throw the football more often.
01:00:48
So get your path rushers, pay them and let him go.
01:00:52
You know, that was their thought process, and it worked.
01:00:55
I think the boat Or who was the last weapon on offense that you had in Baltimore? Well, like legit, Not a Baltimore weapon that turned into a weapon involved More, but like, ah, legit.
01:01:09
Like everybody in the league would have wanted men, like as a receiver you're talking about because yeah.
01:01:16
Tori Wilson vittori Wilson, If you can consider him or And there he coming r a Torrey Smith, not Tory Worst oratory. Oratory.
01:01:24
Smith of Derby Diva.
01:01:25
Yeah, that's Torrey Smith story Smith One who lost his brother.
01:01:28
Right? Right, Right.
01:01:29
And then he went off against the Pats.
01:01:31
Yep.
01:01:32
On that night? Yeah, this next day. Yeah, right.
01:01:34
Um, so I guess Torrey Smith I mean, we honestly like going back in rece wide receiver history for the Ravens.
01:01:41
It's not pretty, men.
01:01:42
I mean, the person that holds the record for, um, receiving yards in a single season for the Ravens is Michael Jackson.
01:01:51
Yeah, right from the first season inaugural season, 1996.
01:01:56
So that record since 1996 she's this and and I actually had a hot take that Hollywood Brown is gonna break that this year, But I don't know.
01:02:05
I thought I could break that.
01:02:08
I know it's Michael Jackson, but anyway, I wanted to go back to your point about the offensive lines, man.
01:02:13
I mean, you see teams like the Ravens, and now you know, maybe the cold stew, you know, historically have put stock into the offensive line.
01:02:21
But maybe for most of Andrew left career, they didn't.
01:02:24
But, I mean, the Ravens.
01:02:25
I wanted to go back to the 2016 draft, where it was like one of the few years that we were just terrible.
01:02:31
We went five and 11.
01:02:32
Everybody got injured.
01:02:34
We have the number 16 pick overall, and we take Ronnie Stanley and look what he's turned out to be amazing at the time.
01:02:42
You know, you wanted to take someone flashy like the Forest.
01:02:44
Buckner was the pick right after us.
01:02:46
I mean, guys like Quiano Neil, maybe a Kenny Clarke.
01:02:50
There's there's other, like defensive stars names you could have taken.
01:02:54
But the fact that the Ravens decided to go with the offensive linemen just says a lot about, you know, putting emphasis on the trenches.
01:03:02
Oh, yeah, I mean, Haiti had the top three pick after that Bad horrible Got all right, man, that's gonna quit. NLC.
01:03:08
They went and got Quinton Nelson and New England doesn't usually take high linemen.
01:03:15
But you know that ballot check is good for 3 to 4 every draft, hoping that one of them hit you what I mean.
01:03:22
And if you keep doing that, you'll just keep replenishing your offensive line.
01:03:27
So it's Ah, yeah, and it's just it's teams just go out and I And if you look at all the best teams, we look at the Saints again.
01:03:36
Another.
01:03:37
I mean, Drew Brees could not play in front of a bad offensive line right now, and that's why I'm scared for Tom Brady in Tampa Bay with all those weapons they have again.
01:03:47
You were talking about a team that will move the ball because of the weapons, but I think the line as bad as you guys make it out to be, I think they're gonna be a lot better than you might think.
01:03:58
I watched Tom Brady play in front of a bad offensive line last year, Tom bring, but I'm seeing ghosts.
01:04:04
Line is gonna be better than the Patriots line last year.
01:04:06
That's what I'm thinking.
01:04:08
That's what I think. We'll see.
01:04:10
Uh, Derrick Mason.
01:04:11
That's right. Make chicken vlogs.
01:04:13
Good point.
01:04:14
Derrick Mason was probably the last receiver that was pretty good on the Ravens.
01:04:17
Anquan Boldin, Steve Smith.
01:04:20
Even though he was a little older, that dude was Faisal with Steve.
01:04:23
Smith was a star before he went to Baltimore, though.
01:04:26
Like he's not a star that came out of it and more.
01:04:28
And Boldin was the same.
01:04:29
He was a star before he came there, and they were both kind of the tail. Another careers.
01:04:33
We we really don't have any.
01:04:34
Homegrown receivers have turned out to be something, so maybe Hollywood Brown could break them.
01:04:40
What? An outside of Ray Rice, who was a superstar prior toe.
01:04:44
You know his incident? Yep.
01:04:47
Do you have any, like, superstar running backs? Or if they have always just been a product of the system? Well, there was Jamal Lewis who had that 2000 yards season.
01:04:54
Um, then there was Priest Holmes and his Ah, I think he was.
01:04:59
We picked him up on drafted.
01:05:01
He ended up going to the Chiefs. Yeah, yeah.
01:05:03
Um, we had Willis McGahee, who was pretty good for a few years there, so we we tend to start.
01:05:10
Did you start with Willis McGahee? What do you mean, Is that Did he come? Did you draft him or did he? Uh why do I feel like you from popular use the bills, right? Will it? So, No.
01:05:25
But you have just pure home grown.
01:05:27
I mean, Jamal Lewis. Priest Holmes.
01:05:29
Ray Rice, Of course.
01:05:32
Um, Ray Rice was being here.
01:05:34
Yeah.
01:05:36
Yeah.
01:05:37
So, um but yeah, I mean, usually, like offensively, It's never really been our been RM.
01:05:43
Oh, we've always been defense, but you're not just defense.
01:05:46
If that's a thing.
01:05:47
Your special teams as well, right? If you always look it, and I think not enough.
01:05:52
And look, I get that I'm a Patriots fan, and I've been ingrained by our head coach to love special teams.
01:05:58
But when I look at things that happened on special teams, you know, watching patriots games or watching, um, you know, like teams like the Ravens.
01:06:07
Like the emphasis on I don't think the average casual fan really understands the importance of special teams and how it actually impacts a game, you know? Look, let's go back to the Super Bowl that you guys? One.
01:06:20
It was a Bolden who ran back to Touchdown Noah from the kickoff return.
01:06:24
Yeah, will be Jacoby Jones.
01:06:26
Oh, sorry, Jacoby Jones.
01:06:28
If Jacoby Jones doesn't run that back the way the rest of the game went, Baltimore could have lost. Super Bowl.
01:06:34
Could see what I mean, like special.
01:06:36
That run that kickoff return for the T v.
01:06:40
C J had kickoff for Terry in both of our Super Bowls.
01:06:43
It was Jermaine Lewis back in 2000 I think.
01:06:46
Who did that? So that's right again.
01:06:48
We scored 34 in both the Super Bowl, so there's Chicago hadn't returned the opening kickoff for a touchdown in the Super Bowl in old six against the Cold State.
01:06:59
Man never scored in that game.
01:07:01
You know what I was? I hated the courts, right? Being a Patriots fan, I had to hate the courts.
01:07:06
I had hit the Colts, just like Lawrence when he was talking smack when I was in the stream, saying he could never cheer for the Patriots.
01:07:12
I was the same.
01:07:13
I could never cheer for the Colts.
01:07:15
I'm a little bit impact.
01:07:16
I'm a little bit easier on them now, but back in the paint manages, I couldn't do it.
01:07:21
I was so excited when Devin Hester ran that ball back like, yes, Peyton's not gonna win is Super Bowl.
01:07:29
And then it was just a **** show.
01:07:32
They remember.
01:07:34
Yeah.
01:07:35
Then I remembered.
01:07:36
Was Jay Cutler at the time? No, it was or wasn't every seat, wasn't it? Rex Grossman was a Grossman then.
01:07:43
Oh, God e.
01:07:45
I was I was in college.
01:07:47
I was at the pub in college with by watching that game going Oh, my God, I just wanted I was drinking Guinness and I want to just throw it.
01:07:57
So what state It was a white jersey.
01:07:58
I just want to throw the same.
01:08:00
It was pouring rain game and the Bears were don't for running the football.
01:08:06
That's how they got there during the football and the love you.
01:08:10
Smith completely got away from the game plan and and somehow Peyton was still able to throw the football from the rain.
01:08:19
You know, I couldn't believe it.
01:08:20
I was like, Wow, Reggie Wayne was getting wide open standing there right in the end zone, going here on my here.
01:08:25
There's no one around for 30 yards.
01:08:27
You know, now I will say something.
01:08:30
When you said I could never, um, vote for ah, root for the Patriots.
01:08:35
I have rooted for the Pacers.
01:08:37
Yeah, because it because it reflected that it was gonna help the Colts get more of my own divisional rival.
01:08:43
I admit I have cheered for the Patriots once, once.
01:08:47
It was when they went up against the Steelers in the A F C championship a few years ago, because I didn't want to see the Steelers go to the super.
01:08:54
I didn't want to see the Patriots go to the Super Bowl, but it was such a lose lose for you.
01:08:58
I I guess I'd rather see the Patriots lose a Super Bowl than the Steelers make it to another Super Bowl.
01:09:05
I don't know. Yeah, it's funny.
01:09:07
Like sometimes you gotta like, I hate the Eagles more cause of their fan base in the team.
01:09:12
But remember the year after they beat the Patriots in the Super Bowl? I had to cheer for them because they're playing Houston.
01:09:17
And that was the game that when Scott hurt Nick Foles brought them all the way back and won the game in overtime.
01:09:22
And that's what gave the Patriots a second seed.
01:09:25
And it was like I hated cheering for the Eagles, like celebrating an Eagles game as if it was like the second last game or third last game of the season.
01:09:32
It felt dirty. I bet.
01:09:34
I know, man.
01:09:35
You the Patriot like the Patriots hate, I think between the Ravens and the Patriots has kind of gone down a little bit.
01:09:40
But I don't know if you remember Ray, that it was at an all time Fever point man.
01:09:44
We had some battles in the playoffs.
01:09:47
I usual freak ate the site of Tom Brady, the Patriots, everything.
01:09:51
Men, I want to say 2008 until 2014.
01:09:56
Really? But the Colts, the Ravens Ah, in the Jets, because that was some of that time was the Rex Ryan time.
01:10:05
Um, that was the most heated rivalries and for the Patriots, you know, the the Manning, the Manning, Brady, though we could never beat the Ravens.
01:10:17
And what I mean, um and then just freakin Rex Ryan and his big mouth, right? That was the most heated time for me is the Patriot because it's funny.
01:10:25
I sit here now and if you like, and you say to me like, Who are the Patriots Biggest rivals.
01:10:32
I kind of go, I don't know you.
01:10:34
And I mean, like, it's It's not the Colts anymore, you know what I mean? Um, you know the Ravens we haven't met.
01:10:42
We met in the playoffs of 2014.
01:10:43
That's the last time we met about the Steelers in 2016.
01:10:47
I mean, people, you know, I know Chiefs fans say that we're the biggest rival, but to me, that's a one way rivalry.
01:10:53
The A F C East has been such a joke for the last five years.
01:10:56
There hasn't really been a battle internally.
01:10:59
I guess now would be Buffalo a little bit because they're actually, you know, competitive for you.
01:11:03
Beat him every time you still beat him.
01:11:05
Yeah, this will be the year we don't have Tom Brady.
01:11:07
So let's see what happens, right? But it's it's, you know, I guess are be the painting.
01:11:12
Here's while Miami is not a private we go into every season.
01:11:16
No, we're gonna lose the game to Miami like it's just we just know it it doesn't matter. Home away.
01:11:21
We're gonna lose again in Miami.
01:11:22
But I think our big But I know since you spring in Miami, I think our biggest rival is right, Fitzpatrick.
01:11:29
I think he's He's beat the pages like, four times your meat on all three gives.
01:11:36
Yeah, So that that biggest rival now all he has to do is go on the Patriots and lose a Super Bowl, and then he'll really get them. Yeah.
01:11:45
What? Toby s final final nail in the coffin.
01:11:48
He just sucks the entire superbug.
01:11:51
Hey, Plays like fits magic for 16 games and then oh, so does that Super Bowl comes.
01:11:56
Oh, I'm Ryan Fitzpatrick, man, I'm screwing the Patriots.
01:11:59
I know we gotta go, but can I throw a question? You guys Sure.
01:12:02
If Ryan Fitzpatrick let's in the pier hypothetical.
01:12:06
You know it's not gonna happen, but say he leads Might say Miami exceeds expectation.
01:12:11
That defense really does step up.
01:12:13
You mean, and he wins a Super Bowl with Miami.
01:12:17
Given the fits, whole fits magic journey, men career.
01:12:22
Where does that rank him like? Where does that when we look at like when we talk about old quarterbacks like, Does he land up in the, um oh, the Trent Dilfer category of Super Bowl winners? Or is he actually looked at and Nick fall sort of way? Or is he looked at as a like a Joe Flacco? Sort of, you know, a good respected.
01:12:44
He's not known as a great, you know? I mean, like, no one's gonna argue him as a top five, but still a good quarterback.
01:12:51
Great quarterback.
01:12:52
You would say that won a Super Bowl.
01:12:53
Like where would he go if he actually pulled this off? I actually don't hate the Joe Flacco comparison, right? Because Flacco and Fitzpatrick both have moments of greatness right straight up.
01:13:05
They just do.
01:13:06
And there's games that they that the money is on the table and you need a plane made and both of the quarterbacks make the place.
01:13:13
So I don't hate that Joe Flacco comparison, but that's only to say if Fitzpatrick actually do that. But I like that.
01:13:20
I think that's fun to think about Lawrence.
01:13:25
I'm looking at some gotta do do the numbers.
01:13:30
He's doing the math theology that Miami will win the Super Bowl.
01:13:33
Ray is this, too, that you're an idiot for bringing come to quit, and then we should probably call it quits.
01:13:39
Were you looking at our Gaff? Yeah, we can shut down after I think that this Oh, he's in the good range, in my opinion, I mean, he really is, uh I was going to say I would rank.
01:13:56
I would rate him like the Alex Smith tight butt out.
01:14:00
Smith hasn't won a Super Bowl, so I was looking up actually to see if he if at else, was even on a team like, you know, with the Niners.
01:14:10
They lost a soupy, lost the Super Bowl with Niners.
01:14:13
Kaepernick was starting, though.
01:14:15
Yeah, that's right.
01:14:17
That's that, I think.
01:14:19
Do you guys know about the whole fits magic curse surf the Fitzpatrick curse? No.
01:14:25
Have you heard about that? So when he's a backup, he will start that season because the starting quarterback will either go down to injury or something will happen.
01:14:34
Something's gonna happen that Ryan Fitzpatrick will become the starter.
01:14:37
That seat the backup.
01:14:40
He will eventually become the starter.
01:14:42
It's happened every single time in his career.
01:14:44
Well, if he's even had quarterbacks, well, that's what they call it.
01:14:47
no duffer him.
01:14:48
But if you have him on your team, you know he is going to start eventually.
01:14:52
That's just how hard you are to was probably going start me is the back of the start.
01:14:56
Maybe back E.
01:14:59
I mean, I think me and Ray both agree that we think that six Patrick should start this season off anyhow.
01:15:05
Yes, Louis.
01:15:06
And I think if they start showing some promise, you keep him in for the year and you just let to learn.
01:15:10
If they put two in, then you gotta be afraid that, too, is going to get hurt because of Fitzpatrick.
01:15:16
So even without the two of getting hurt thing like, let's say, Miami is five and four, right? After nine games, you're still kind of in a position where potentially fight for a playoff spot, right? Do you go away from Fitzpatrick or do you go to to, uh, you know what I mean? And it's almost a tough call because of two comes in.
01:15:37
It stinks it up.
01:15:39
And let's say two of the four losses were close to Miami.
01:15:42
I mean, that could be Brian floors his neck right there.
01:15:45
You know, like it's It's tough.
01:15:49
I always make checking, Vlog says.
01:15:51
He says the rose and curse Rosen goes on a team and he sucks every time more Josh Rose and I don't want to get.
01:15:57
We talked about him so much anyway.
01:15:59
We could shut it down now for Josh.
01:16:01
I got another show.
01:16:02
I'm gonna do it.
01:16:03
Nine.
01:16:04
Alright, guys, let's set it down.
01:16:05
Thank you all so much for coming out here.
01:16:07
Guys, this was a lot of fun.
01:16:08
Great to have all three of us back once again.
01:16:11
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01:16:13
Two guys with me for the first time in life, right? Right.
01:16:17
That story.
01:16:19
But anyway, shout out to let's see who we got.
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01:16:38
Yes, Putin, also, I really do appreciate the tips, but there's actually 60 people watching, and I only named like five people men.
01:16:46
So what? You know what's wrong with that picture? Somebody tell me.
01:16:49
War is This is ridiculous.
01:16:50
I mean, how many times we have to tell the people, right? Yeah.
01:16:55
All you gotta do is a large time.
01:16:58
I'm too mad to talk about it.
01:16:59
You gotta dio what it's saying is the olive loaf in right here.
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01:17:13
We know we're doing the right thing.
01:17:14
If you're gonna sit here and watch over and over and over and over, that's cool.
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01:17:21
Let us know you're here.
01:17:22
That when we could shout you out like like Joe just did the other people, these great people who like MacKinnon, sat here and we interacted with him the whole time to do the same.
01:17:33
They put in Ray.
01:17:35
It's stupid.
01:17:36
I don't care.
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Say, Lord knows what he's talking about.
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I don't care.
01:17:41
Say something that we could react to it.
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It isn't impacted board going.
01:17:45
That's what we are here to do.
01:17:48
Get some, Get some conversation going.
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