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We have got a packed show for you guys today.
We've got tons of news in all different sports and will be doing N B a player power rankings, which is gonna be very fun after all the news is done.
But first we'll get into the news and it will start off with some NFL.
So in the NFL, obviously there has been a opting out option from the 2020 season and a player to our high risk.
It paid more than players were low risk for opting out.
But basically there have been a few notable players who opted out.
Many of them on.
The Patriots were clearly tanking for Trevor Lawrence this year, but the notables have been, among others, Nate, Soldier of Giants Neck Nate, Solder of the Giants, Damien Williams of the Chiefs, Patrick Chung of the Patriots, Donta Hightower of the Patriots and Marcus Cannon of the Patriots.
As you can see all of their good players opting out, Um, yeah, Chris, I think this is interesting.
I glad the NFL's leading players opt out.
I think it's a good thing for their own safety, and we haven't even seen too many big names yet.
I mean, Hightower and Chung were really the biggest.
Yeah, I'm glad that we haven't seen anything crazy than at of Giant in Nate Solder.
And he had had an off year last year's I don't know if this is necessarily the worst thing They got into comics to kind of take over.
The blindside white soldier was gonna run there.
Uh, I think Solar was gonna run right tackle and consequences run blindside left tackle, so I think that they can use the short position.
For a struggling soldier, David Williams is kind of a loss.
But they got Clyde Edwards, Layer Patrick Chung, Donte Hightower, Greer the biggest impact.
I mean, Williams, I would argue, is not really a loss because he has never really performed well other than at the end of the season, when he comes in fresh and runs over it, battered defense's, that's That's my opinion on Williams.
So I think Next beast news we can we stop talking about Antonio Brown? It's so annoying things time.
It's not something.
He said He has been suspended eight games for violating the NFL's personal conduct policy.
It goes into effect whether or not he's on a roster, which I was really confused by this.
Like what if what if he just decides not to sign and write out his eight game suspension in free agency and I think it's without pay? It could be extended, they said.
But Brown will not appeal the suspension.
This is weird because we know Brown likes to argue about stuff that people aren't even arguing about sometimes, so I'm as surprised he's not appealing the suspension.
Yeah, I'm very surprised to I think, that he's trying to make a statement that he's retired by Not Yeah, we'll see in 2021.
Didn't he was retired like, last week? Yeah. Again.
OK, well, he said it.
Yeah, Yemen people are.
There's no need to put stock into that anymore.
But like, thank you, Winky, face one a one for joining the broadcast.
Um, so, yeah, it helps.
It helps us out if you join, and then we get some viewers and people watch our thing.
So we'll go next to our next piece of news.
This is in baseball.
The Marlins Cove in 19 Outbreak has led to the postponement of all games.
Until this Sunday, the Phillies have had to postpone as well as the Arizona Cardinals and our weight the ST Louis Cardinals.
I always say Arizona, even if it's baseball on and then this is This was supposed to be for later.
But an internal investigation also showed that the Marlins didn't follow Covitz safety protocols, and I think Chris, this is another thing.
Like another example of players not following protocols like Matt Chapman spitting in the dugout in the A s celebrating like crazy after a walk off home run like the players have been really bad in baseball and honestly, in terms of following these protocols and it really shows, Yeah, I think that there were some players that kind of said, Hey, what's gonna have? And nothing could go wrong and we've seen it go wrong in such a big stage.
Like the MLB, they're so money players and so many staff member someone coaches.
So there's so much refer to to spread and players are taking the protocols.
This is what's gonna happen.
We're gonna have postponed games and all reach we're in season.
And if this goes on the season that they're gonna be have to have to be canceled or some teams we're gonna have to take off their games know their way around. Yeah.
I mean, it's already 20% of MLB teams, I think, or something like that have been affected by this.
So it's been pretty crazy.
More MLB Rob Manfred told the MLB P.
A that if the players don't do a better job containing Kobe that he will have to cancel this season which Manning makes.
It makes perfect sense.
We hope the players can improve, but if they can't season is not happening.
I mean, there's no other way around.
If they're gonna spread Koven too much, you have to cancel it.
As much as the players want to keep playing, if they're not gonna follow the proper protocols and it's going to end up with canceled season, I We're on the verge of getting in cancelled season.
I mean, if we have one more outbreak, we might see it happen.
Yeah, I mean, that's getting close.
I'm pretty sure I I will bet I will bet a lot that the MLB is going to be not minister.
Chris was a betting man, but he is.
I knocked some stuff down.
Yeah, all of your marbles, even your coolest marbles.
Even your best marbles, marbles, all that green marbles, even the ones that are, like the best for, like, playing marbles.
Like your shooter, Will you bet your shooter Chris was busy texting.
Just exits of the did.
Not okay, but, um no, I was saying you are.
You gonna bet your shooter I think that's what the main like your best marble is called or something.
Or the one that you used to shoot problems compute.
I thought I heard you say shooter, but I had no idea what that was.
I was just like what they think.
Alright, Well, room Okay, so sure.
If that's my best marble that I'm betting.
Okay, so the n b A is going to restart and I The NBA's been doing considerably better than the MLB at containing the outbreak.
I think the MLB there will be, on the other hand, may actually have a chance that Ah, I think the NBA has a high chance of finishing the season Honestly, because they're doing pretty well.
So we've had some scores coming in.
We've had some scores coming in lately.
On Thursday, the Jazz beat the Pelicans 106 to 104 Lakers beat the Clippers 103 to 101 Yesterday, the Magic beat the next by 10.
Suns beat the Wizards by 13.
The Blazers beat the Grizzlies 1 40 to 1 35 And over time, the Bucks? Yeah, definitely it.
Especially since they're fighting for a playoff spot.
I know they're both competing for the 80.
I really wish I could watch that one.
I wish I had known it was going on.
I think I actually had its one of the games that I wanted to watch. When we did that.
That was probably such an exciting.
When you see Damian Lillard is always so good in the playoffs for CIA.
Young John Moran, who had a really good yeah, it may not be, have been on TV like it's possible was.
Most of the games have been, I think, but I'm not sure.
By the way, I mean, I think tomorrow I'm gonna be doing some sort of livestream about a game.
Might the N B A or and a stellar MLB NHL, but there might be golf, But we'll see.
I'm gonna be doing some sort of live stream tomorrow.
So the Bucks beat the Celtics won 19 to 1 12 yesterday, the Spurs beat the Kings 11 39 to 1 20 The Rockets beat the Mavericks in overtime 1 53 2149 That was an insane game.
Ah, the heat beat the Nuggets today.
Ah, 1 25 to 105 And today the Thunder beat.
The Jazz won 10 to 94 later tonight, we've got pelicans at Clippers at 6 p.m. Eastern.
That's already on 76 years and Pacers at 7 p.
Eastern and Lakers and Raptors at 8:30 p.m. Eastern.
Um, yeah, that's basically everything that's been going on in the n B A.
We haven't seen too much, but Christie, of any other ****ysis, like to go with this.
I think it's a good start to the season.
We've got to see to overtime games.
There wasn't too much like rust.
I felt like for both the fry that for any of the teams, really, it was just good to have another sport back.
You know, it's like a checklist that gaining all the sports back.
Yep, and we've all got like I mean, basically, right now these are basically the sports that would be going on like I mean, football.
We're not like it's not like we're missing football other than I'm in pre season.
But who cares about preseason? So some basketball, maybe the one of the main things that came from this restart.
Zion Williamson played very limited minutes, and he's upset with the Pelicans about this, of course, and it's according to a report, it's a less playing time will continue.
Why were they not playing him when their playoff hopes? It makes absolutely no sense to me, I to me.
I mean, he did it.
He did great in a few regular season games that he played in.
He's just like he's the game changer that the pelicans need that they don't have.
And they're not gonna be a playoff team If they don't play him.
It's just makes absolutely no sense.
Yeah, like I'm completely confused.
I never saw this.
I mean, Chris saw this, apparently, and, um, I am shocked by it is just a shocked as he is.
Ah, Pauline the Bills or Bulls fan 99.
Thank you for joining the broadcast.
Who knows? Maybe Pauline's a Bills fan, too.
But anyway, yeah, Zion, I'm not really sure.
I just nothing else to say.
Other than that, I'm just really surprised that he's not that the pelicans don't want him to play.
So the NHL restarted today like we just mentioned There were some games already played.
We've got Canadians at Penguins at eight PM, Eastern tonight.
Jets in flames at 10:30 p.
m. Eastern. But we already played some games.
We saw the Hurricanes beat the Rangers, 32 The Blackhawks beat the order 6 to 4.
That's a high scoring matchup, and Islanders beat the Panthers 1 to 2.
So, yeah, that's basically those were the three results so far for hockey.
Chris and I are in a huge hockey guys, but I mean, for hockey fans is good to definitely see hockey back.
And I want to get stand toe like the Final eight teams, and once we get into the playoffs, will probably start pulling it a little bit more about it. Moment.
I'm not super interested.
I mean, there's a lot.
It's like a oh, he's might just We went from like no sports to Aton of sports.
So it's kind of a crazy hockey's kind of that sport that I don't really watch.
But I'm gonna try and stay in tune with talking about you're not hockey, basketball, gulf and and baseball.
Yeah, I mean, I think our friend Luke Brown put it perfectly who hosts his channel.
I think Lou Brown sports talk.
He put it perfectly on his Twitter, where he said, there was like so many things coming back.
He, like, doesn't know what to Dio.
That was a like It's basically how I feel, too, like there's so many sports coming back.
It's just crazy and I can't think of what to to, um I know it's like for our broadcast.
It's like, Oh, my goodness, this and this said this and it's all a sudden because last few weeks we've been, like, scrounging for ideas.
I mean, we've been this picking up whatever we could, whatever spoke to the news.
And now it's like we have full nb a games.
Yeah, I mean, I think in the future where we're gonna have to do is just report on the games that were going on, like on the day we do this show and then maybe for like, football, I mean existence.
We do the show on Saturday.
We wouldn't be talking about football, Aton, but people already know the football scores and we could We'll still do some football ****ysis on the show.
Well, figure I will figure out how we do it.
Well, maybe we'll do it our way.
Yeah, I mean, we might just Yeah, we'll definitely be talking about the week's events on there.
We might just do like notable games than the games happening on the day.
But our fantasy podcast is called the second and Goal fantasy podcast.
Um, it's available all major podcast platforms.
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So it's getting to be very close.
We're gonna put out our all encompassing 2020 fantasy preview coming up this Monday, and we're also we've also got rankings and articles on our website states dot google dot com slash views Last second goal fantasy.
I've been updating mind with the player tracker of guys opting out.
I had to drop out Damien Williams for my rankings and move up Clyde Edwards, A layer who was going t aken fantasy next year.
Probably doing that.
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We may be updating the articles page more to cause.
I mean, we've got articles, but they're not that we haven't written a bunch lately.
The last was about Rob Gronkowski, which is still relevant, but we'll see.
Yeah, we could be putting.
I mean, I don't know if techno whole would go for that, though.
So I think I think we should just We could just stick with this.
Our writer Touchdown.
Kirk, though, does have a at least one article that still applies Now is something nice about the Buffalo Bills on and like, so there's a couple of different articles you can read that still apply, but, yeah, we got a little off topic, but we'll get back to this stuff, the stuff that we're talking about today.
The MLB is happening today, and no games have been finished yet, but we see three games have been postponed.
The Phillies in the Blue Jays, gnats and Marlins and then the second Phillies in Blue Jays game from today.
I guess there was a double header.
That's what my dad says. Okay.
Um Well, then we've got I'll wait.
I don't know if this is updated weight.
Cardinals, Brewers would be postponed too, right? I am.
Yeah, we Are you sure that the cardinals had game postponed? Um, didn't we? Didn't you say we they did or something? No, I never said they did.
Oh! Whoa! Let's see that.
Uh, yes, Cardinals Brewers game is called off.
So yes, that this schedule was not updated.
So we apologize for that.
Cardinals Brewers is postponed to, But the games that are actually playing today are White Sox and Royals, Astros and Angels, Red Sox and Yankees, Mets and Braves, Indians and Twins raising Orioles doctors at Diamondbacks and doctors and Diamondbacks, Padres and Rockies, Pirates and Cubs, Rangers and Giants and athletics and Mariners.
All 30 teams were supposed to play today, but we're only gonna have 22.
None of the games.
A lot of them have just started, but none of them have finished.
Open heart for joining the broadcast.
Um, if you guys want to comment on anything we're saying? Do so add Astri sports talks.
The only comment feed we're following? Uh, yeah.
I mean, yeah, Chris, because we talked about earlier how you thought the MLB season was not gonna go on and you were gonna bet your best marbles on it.
So, um, any other thoughts to add to that, uh, I decided Throw on my mobile.
Your blue marble, New York, your New York Giants Blue marble.
You're gonna throw that in? Yeah.
Wow. And this is the MLB season.
Okay, well, I can I have all your marbles if you lose.
Wait, what's I'll bet you don't even have any marbles.
No, I mean, just getting neither of us 70 marbles.
Uh, actually, I have marbles, but not like cool marbles like marbles.
Yeah, I got a lot of about generic marbles up.
You know, I'm not generic best marble in the entire world.
So we If the MLB season doesn't finish, we can literally take out your brain.
Yeah, give it to someone who needs it more.
Yeah, because I don't really need to bring cause I'm already smart.
He's those martikan function without a brain.
I don't open heart has not been getting much ****ysis of actual sports.
It's kind of funny.
The first, like 15 minutes.
All that's all we were talking about.
But on some more baseball news.
Joe Kelly was suspended eight games for throwing at a Astros player, Alex Bregman, and I've mean eight games.
I mean, this feels like a lot.
I mean, head hunting is never okay or like, I don't think it's never Okay, maybe you can throw.
It's it's someone's arm or something.
If you're gonna try to get revenge but never head hunting, I mean, but eight games is 22 162 game season.
This is This might be just a little bit excessive.
I feel like I can understand where everybody's coming from, trying to set a precedent.
I think it's a little bit excessive, though, because they deserve it.
Yeah, I mean, but I mean, I can see where they're coming from.
Trying to set a strict policy, thank you.
Open heart for the tip.
We really appreciate it.
Open Heart has liked what he or she has heard so far.
I like that talk about Yeah, open heart probably has some cool marbles.
If you want to comment, um, you could do so.
I mean, that's about it. So far.
Uh, well, no, that's not about it.
We're almost done with our news.
But the last piece of news, I think this is the last piece before we move on to our n b A player power rankings which were doing the W G C FedEx ST Jude Invitationals.
Third round is wrapped up.
We've got a leaderboard for you.
Brendon Todd, who has been on the rise lately on top of the leaderboard at 12 under we have on.
I'm not sure what his first name is.
I don't know if I could pronounce it, but it's at 11 under.
He's at 11 under.
Rickie Fowler at 10 under works Cap cut.
Nine under Justin Thomas at eight under.
See, there's no ties.
It's just 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th Then we've got a tie for sixth with Phil ****elson, says Revie.
Luis Luis, you'll strain and Matthew Fitzpatrick or Louis Rooster in and Matthew for traffic was at seven under.
Got Louis in Simpson I'm not even gonna try to say that.
Bez zoo in better we Then who? I don't know.
I'm really bad at pronouncing stuff.
Uh, controlled Domine, Jason Day, Shane Lowry all at six under 500 Daniel Burgers and er softly, Dorn's beef.
Scotty Scheffler and Dustin Johnson.
Chris, stop pretending to text.
Probably actually is texting and just like faking it, not faking.
Joke is like that. Reverse psychology.
Uh, Chris, any thoughts? I mean, Brendon Todd has really been playing some stellar golf lately.
Yeah, he just he's not.
He's not a distance guy, but he just consistently hits it right down the middle of the fairway.
Enough to put him in front.
Consistency is key.
Even guys like bracing to Shambo hougan blasted a long way are never guaranteed victories.
Helman and I can attest that consistency would be very nice.
No. I went golfing today.
It was took over four hours.
It was insane because we actually like I had played for the first time, like an actual legit like course.
I mean, I've played golf courses before, but like this was par 72.
Tough, even from the very front teas, which was what I play.
It was still really card.
And I had some good shots, but I also had some bad shots.
And that's how golf goes.
But not for Brendon Todd.
Um, I'm not sure, but if I did was sure I wouldn't want to talk about it.
E Were you over under 100? Probably. Over.
Yeah, Definitely over.
If I could get if I could shoot par on par 72.
Mr C? No, Mr Scratch golfer over here.
Do you know what will shot? Ah, well, our friend he shot 97 but with some Mulligan's.
So, um, but not bad.
Yeah, that's pretty good.
But again, with very a good amount of Mulligan's, So we'll move on to our n b A player power rankings, and Chris and I each got our top 15 here on, uh, Christie? Want to start with your number one? Sure.
For me, the number one player in the N. V. A.
This is like talent, but also like basically, hell, Well, they're doing or how well they would do.
Yeah, my number one.
It's kind of obvious. I think.
I think for both of us, it's got to be honest.
I mean, he's just so dominant.
He's just athletic.
It's He's just overall just insane.
I mean, there's no other way around it.
Yeah, the number one.
I mean, you honest for me? Also the number one.
I mean, no one has one.
Weakness is his shooting, but it is just ability to get to the lane.
He makes it look so easy.
Could basically walk past anyone.
Just score like that's how easy it me.
He makes it look.
Um, so Johannes is my number one, and I think for number two we both have LeBron because LeBron in his old age, his points of decline.
But he's learned so like he's learned to pass the ball pretty nicely.
I think he might be leading the league in assists this year, like that's pretty crazy.
He's learned to like dish it of round.
He's got Anthony Davis to score a lot for him and he's still putting up points.
So I mean, the way he's really become a team player is like makes him number two.
Yeah, Hey, come on.
I'm Can you move on to your Ah, well, here, let me see.
Here you have my number two is LeBron as well, so I kind of agree with you.
But can you say your number three? I'm gonna grab some water.
I'm sorry. Good.
So my number three is Kawai, Leonard and Co.
I I think that's pretty clear.
His defense was always stellar throughout his career.
But like now that we're seeing, like his offense come up to that level, he's just unstoppable.
Like his offense.
Over the last couple of years, his shooting ability has just gotten so good and he's just able to create space for himself anywhere and just make every shot he takes.
Plus, his defense is still one of the best in the league.
Like you gotta put him up there with guys like Rudy Gobert for like, best defenders in the league Co I Leonard is my number three guy.
It's like if you it's everything you've ever could have dreamed up for Kawai if you were ever like cool.
Yes, he's good at defense, but I really need some offense.
These past couple of years have really Just, like help you If you probe that.
Only I think Chris has quiet.
Number three is Well, we can let Chris talk about it in a moment, but yet and yeah.
Yeah, and birth it.
Who is a Mr Good? What? Uh, I think I mean, I won't say it's clear, but I think it's like a It's pretty clear for most people that Davis is the best center in the game.
Um, yeah, My Christie isn't back yet.
My number five has got to be Kevin Durant and guess Kevin Durant's not playing right now, but if he was playing, I think he might see a little bit of decline from his injury.
And that's where I put him at number five and not like number three.
But I think k d when he's on the floor, he's just such a force.
It just is playmaking.
Ability is just all around. Underrated.
He can pass if he needs to.
He can drive the lane.
You can take three.
Seems like the perfect small forward.
So I mean, I really excited for Katie when he comes back I'm excited to watch him when he comes onto the court.
I'm really not sure why Chris is taking so long with his water.
Um, but anyway, to recap my rankings is the honest that number one LeBron at number to call.
Wyatt number three, Davison number four and Katie A number five. Finally.
Well, wrong. You.
Where were you? Where were you? I want to get water.
In fact, forever.
I've listened my three or in five, and I was stalling.
So you wanted to you list your three four.
I was grab a glass of water.
Well, you can go with your 34 and five, Okay.
It's gotta be quite Leonard.
I mean, he's so good on the defensive side of the ball and he's so clutches we saw last year.
I think there's any other way around.
He's just so dominant on both sides, and he's really kind of lead that Clippers team back into it.
So he's kind of an obvious obvious Number three for me, Number four.
I've got James Horton, and I mean, you could say that this is a little high and I might kind of agree with you, but I just like he's so good offensively.
I mean, he scores just an insane amount of points.
I think I can't I can't have see him anywhere else just because he's so like dominant.
He's a player that it seemed half the double.
I mean, the only way that teams were really beating the Rockets by doubling Ah, uh, James Harden.
My thing is being really rude.
So yeah, good sinker.
He's too dominant.
And he's too much of a factor in the game.
So leave out of my caught 40 because he totally changes the team's game. Blend.
I mean, I have hardened lower and I'll talk about him in a second, but I have Kawai it three is Well, I had anything Davis at number four and k d at five.
So you can talk about your five right now? Oh, yes.
I've got Harden at five of Anthony Davis and Anthony Davis is Oh, you switch them, didn't you? Yeah, and eyes a nice compliment, LeBron and I think being that compliment, LeBron leaves him a bit a little bit.
Underrated it, but he's just a huge presence in the middle.
That's kind of my basis of my reasoning.
All right, so we've re brought, like, Tana time.
We got, like, 33 minutes left, so why don't we pause? We could talk about maybe our all time starting lineups right now.
I think we were talking about that before the show, but I think our all time starting lineups.
So my starting lineup, I mean, we talked about it before the show just for fun.
And since we have a lot of time, we can do it.
So my starting lineup is good because my top five players of all time all really fit in at their positions except for one.
But I'm just sort of using a stretch for power forward.
So, um, I'm gonna have a point guard.
It's got to be Magic Johnson.
He was just so good at passing in his day and he can create he's got We've gotta have a passer on this team because this is gonna be absolutely stacked shooting team because number two is the goat.
It's shooting guard Michael Jordan and the greatest of all time.
Or maybe arguably looks LeBron James.
But maybe the consents probably consensus greatest of all time.
He's just a greatest of all time.
LeBron carrying the calves to the finals.
I was a huge achievement. He's close.
I'm not sure I haven't really decided on that debate yet, but I mean, Jordan.
There's nothing more that needs to be said other, that he is the greatest of all time.
He basically carried his team to.
He made Scottie Pippen a lot better, and there's no doubt about it.
Small forward is Larry Bird, because he can shoot the three like almost nobody else.
Like when staff Curry was like making threes like crazy, he was compared to Larry Bird for a reason.
He's Larry Bird is one of the best now probably top 23 point shooters ever.
Curry's just so good at three point shooting. He's got to be considered.
But, um, LeBron is my stretch forward at power forward.
Yes, he's a small forward technically, but he can play power forward to do just fine score in the paint.
He's just such a presence there, and then is that wasn't good enough.
We got Kareem Abdul Jabbar, the all time points leader at center who could just grab rebounds and put up buckets.
I mean and ill weak.
If we have time later, maybe we can talk about our backup teams.
But, Chris, you can talk about your starting lineup now.
Yeah, uh, minus the exact same.
Yeah, I think it's kind of a consensus.
It is tough for me to put LeBron at power forward because like, he's not perfect there.
But once I look down the list of power forward, there's no one that I like better, even better than an out of position, LeBron.
So it's It's got to be LeBron for me.
Yeah, and I think that Larry Bird was just dominant and so good on defense and on offense, and you really kind of shaped the game of sort of with the element of three point shooting.
He really brought that on.
Yes, it's a tough question.
I mean, with the stretch for becoming a thing, I think LeBron out of position could play better than Tim Duncan in position.
So I think I would go with LeBron, but Tim Duncan would be my backup power forward.
So maybe we can talk about our backups later, but for now, let's keep moving to Ah, Chris, your number six guys.
My number six is Steph.
Corinne, you could say that's a little bit high.
Well, like you said, people were comparing him to Larry Bird when he is healthy, and he is, like, on he makes all his threes.
I mean, he totally just changes how the game is played.
He's had such an impact, like across Not across.
Not on the N B A.
But like all of sports, just I don't He didn't bring on a new era of three point shooting is obviously that's been around for quite a few years now.
But, uh, you really kind of started to lead the league in, like, deep three pointers.
So the really did one thing.
He showed that teams, we're gonna have to start covering that, and he's such a threat from anywhere on the floor.
It makes him impossible to guard a time.
So if he's making his threes, he is definitely the number six guy for me.
Yeah, I mean, that's fair.
I'm going to say my number six is James Harden.
Who you talked about it.
It's just I mean, James Harden's also been passing a lot, mainly because you just shoot so much that he's gonna pass a bunch.
But he's one of the best be.
It's just pure shooters in the game, and that's gonna put him at number six alone.
Don check who he's really come into his own.
And yet I have him higher than like Steph Curry just because that's how good he's been.
Luca could pass.
He can basically do anything.
Like biggest European star we've seen since Dirk Nowitzki, for sure, and next we got Steph Curry eight.
And there's nothing really more to be said because I mean, Chris described it perfectly.
I just like, Harden and nuke up more.
Uh, yeah, let's see here at seven I of Lucca to So I totally agree with you there.
I think that Luca I have ahead of Kevin Durant, who I have an agent because I feel like in the one season that he's played like really well, it's he's been better than Katie ever has.
In my opinion, I kind of think Katie is a little bit overrated.
Hold on, hold on time out debate time.
You think Lucas one season was better than any season Katie's ever have? Yes, no way.
What about Katie and okay, see when he had, like, four straight great seasons and then Katie in Golden State when he had so much more space, his stats weren't that great in those seasons.
But K d in O k c like think about before Russell Westbrook was a factor, often so.
So he slows it down so much.
Like if you watch the film on Kevin Durant, it's kind of crazy, because when he catches the ball, the offense is totally disrupted.
I feel like he doesn't flow well in any teams, and he was kind of helped by good guards like Russell Westbrook and all of the people on the Golden State Warriors.
I just like he had to which health help.
Lucas just totally carved out his own his own worth.
I think that he's just a better.
I think he's gonna be a better play.
He's a better player now, and he's gonna be a better player for a while.
What? You cut out for me, Chris? Um are you were still on this phone call.
Accidentally hitting you.
But I've been talking into the show.
I mean, I just I miss the very end part, but, I mean, for me, Katie, like he's Maybe he's sort of, I guess that you could call sort of compare him to Kevin Love in that way where he needs to be the star of the team.
But I feel like he doesn't Golden State played well with him in that offense, and he was still putting up numbers like in Oklahoma City before Russell Westbrook was a factor.
Katie single handedly made that team important.
He's like, honestly, one of the best small forwards in the game.
He's on my all time team a small forward, and that's gotta be saying something.
He can return to form.
I know he can return to form is not better than Lucas.
I'll take Katie over. Luca.
Yeah, I mean, maybe if I'm doing I mean, that was really close.
It's just I feel like from a film standpoint, I just like a I like Luca dontre better.
I think that he just had better all around player.
He's a much better team player, in my opinion.
And I think that Katie is a little bit overrated.
Okay, Well, I mean, I think Katie Well, if we're building a team, I'll take Luca because Luke was young.
Yeah, but like one sleaze in this current ranking.
Oh, Captain around with playing right now.
Would you rather have Kevin Durant just for a season? Like we're saying for it? Like right? Right now, Like for this season? Yes.
But like, not for a franchise.
If I got leader of them on a five year contract, I might say, Well, okay, five years, maybe Luca.
10 years? Definitely, Luca.
I mean, Durant's getting a little up up there in age.
So 10 years for sure.
Luke, of course.
Chris muted his microphone.
It looks like so Yeah.
Chris was just talking to me through the phone, but not through the broadcast, So that's kind of confusing, but, um, anyway, so my, uh I guess our top a is now set.
I'll talk about my number nine guy.
Who is Nicola Yokich? Just because in Denver he's really the soul like driving factor.
I mean, it's not like they don't have anyone around him, like with LeBron, but like he's one of the best post players in the game.
Probably top two with a d IRT Anthony Davis and like, he's just such a force inside that you've gotta put him at a number nine.
What? Who did you say that was Yokich? Yeah, have Yokich lower.
I've woken to a little bit lower.
I think I have Paul George a nine and I really like Paul George.
I think that he's a He's a really strong shooter and he's really good on the defensive side.
It's kind of Ah quiet leader to and I think that he does.
He does a lot of underrated things like without him.
I don't think that that the Clippers would be anywhere just because I think that he plays such a huge role and he's such a good player to have on any team because you know that he's able to make plays if you need him and he also toe able to knock down shots.
If you have a point guard or a player like Kawai that condition to him, so he's in all around really strong player and he's sneak Li like was an M V P candidate last year, and I think that he's That's true, how good he really is, because I think that if he's playing his best, he could be a really nice piece toe anything.
I mean, I think Yokich has a bigger effect on the team itself, which is why I mean, I have Georgia 10 and Yokich at nine, is close for me.
Chris wanted to talk about your 10.
Then we can go to maybe our all time backup team, then do 11 through 15 and try to do our third string.
Okay, that sounds good.
I've got Damian Lillard and D me little.
It's it's tough because in the regular season he's barely in my top 15.
But once he hits a playoff, he's absolutely in san.
He had 29 points in the first game against the Grizzlies of the N B A restart and he is, and that's the low for him.
I know that's a low like it's just incredible.
He's such a dominant score, any really good passer and I think that I think that because he has such an impact on the playoffs.
He can totally just carry a team because he is so good.
That's why people say, like, even though the placers are in this position, to be the eight seed there for some of the people, their favorites because of Damian Lillard, because they know that it's gonna be playoff. Damian Lillard.
They don't They don't have to decide which one they get there.
Get which Damilola they're getting.
They know they're getting the playoff one in that playoff.
One is really good, and he's so clutching he couldn't easily take a team super foreigner in the playoffs.
Yeah, I mean, when he turns it on, he's just completely on and he can really carry a team so that, I mean, that's definitely fair.
I think I'm gonna change my number 15.
I have one guy, but I changed my mind.
I've already changed my mind once.
I really can't decide who I want there.
It's gonna be a tough decision, but well, I'll talk about.
I'll talk myself in about it.
I'll talk to myself about it later.
How about we do our all time back up to you and I started mine with some chemistry my all time backup team is just pure, pure shooting because, I mean, you'll see I've got one of the best shooters in the best scorers in the game.
So I probably get John Stockton that point guard just because I need a guy who's willing to pass every single time.
And that's gonna be Stockton because one of the guys you're gonna pass through is Kobe, who is my sixth man at shooting guard.
And just because he was such a great player in his, I mean, this is so obvious.
Kobe a six man, though, because then he is backing up Michael Jordan.
Well, yeah, he's backing up, MJ, but we'll go to shooting guards and take all but Larry such a good shooter.
This is the problem with having such a good team.
Yeah, I know that.
It's like Kobe can go in because there's someone better than him.
Yeah, I mean, maybe Kobe will go in for magic, and I'll just take out a point guard entirely and have five insane scores like imagine having Kobe on the floor with M. J.
Who literally is the greatest ever Larry Bird, who, like, basically just shoots threes LeBron, who like nothing more needs to be said.
And Kareem, the all time points leader like who's Nobody's gonna have any good averages.
Everyone's gonna want the ball.
I need a guy like magic who's just gonna score to every single game.
But that's just that's just when they're like, Do this. Yeah.
Whoa, that's this.
When they when they have NJ, I mean, you gotta I thought I lost.
I lost my train of thought, but yeah, I mean, my point guard is John Stockton.
My shooting guards, Kobe.
Kobe's, like, as close of a six man is you're gonna have.
I mean, I'll just put him in.
If I need someone to just go off and shooting because Oh, what do I do? Maybe I put Larry Bird is a stretch for and take out LeBron Oh, I have a really Are all time teams off the note? She Yeah.
I mean, I guess I have to take after I just have to take.
My brother had a small forward magic out.
I forget who I had a small forward.
All right, well, just think about it.
And while I list the rest of my team so my small forward.
Oh, I mean further ERA.
This is a tough one.
It's between Julius Erving, Dr J and K D.
And it's just gonna be Katie because he's more used to the modern.
That's why he's my second stringer.
But Larry Bird's not coming out of the game.
It Katie is gonna get like two minutes and Julius Erving will get two minutes to.
So for power forward.
Oh, who is my power for? Tim? Duncan was my power forward because, I mean, he was just an absolute electric, absolute electrifying player.
Great scorers, so humble to like.
I need a humble guy who could, like, actually passed because, like que de look, if you're saying that Katie just makes an offense like Stall, you can have an often stalling were, like, try to kick it to, like Kobe Co Beacon.
Stall out the office like that.
This is not good chemistry.
I need John Stockton to get like 30 assists each game for this to work out, and he'll have to.
He'll have to be really prove himself.
That's why he's my second straighter.
I mean, also because he's great, but like Oh, yeah.
And then is if this wasn't enough scoring on my team on Central, I got Wilt Chamberlain, who literally scored 100 points in a game.
I got highest point score ever in a game.
Second highest points scorer ever in a game guy who apparently slows down offenses.
Guy who like I mean, maybe Tim Duncan is not the biggest score.
So all the Tim Duncan to be passing, and then, like, guy to just dish it out to everyone.
You're gonna put Tim Duncan appoint part.
I'm Tim Duncan's gonna be a ah, Tim Duncan will.
Well, he doesn't need to run the point, but he'll like hell heaven, Stockton will just like if we ever need to like somebody to kick it back out from the post.
Then it will be Duncan, because if it goes in the post to anyone, but Duncan is not coming out. Yes.
Let me just tell you that right now.
I think I have the exact same second string is you, Calvin.
But I actually have Elgin Baylor swapped for Kevin Durant.
Just because I need more scoring, you need more scoring.
So actually, I gotta want to dio.
Actually, let's see if our third string all time team, because this is really funny.
Before we get, I might have to go.
Let's let's finish off our list And then I think, OK, um, well, actually, let's go quickly so we can read your third string, I think.
All right, so at 11 for me, it's Russell Westbrook.
Just because he's a triple double monster like yes, he kind of just goes for stats.
I mean, maybe he doesn't go for staff, but he just, like, gets a ton of stats.
But like that's important, he's still important to its email.
Put him in 11 12.
Is Damian Lillard for the reasons? Chris said earlier.
I've got Jimmy Butler at 13.
He really just carried the heat in like a way that nobody expected.
Yes, they have Tyler hero, but Bottler was the main force, and you can't deny it.
14 is Kyrie Irving.
We'll see if he comes back from his injury with the same magic.
I mean, he was pretty good this year on.
We've got to say it was pretty fantastic, but and he's Kyrie Irving, you gotta have him there.
And Chris wanted to list your guys.
I'm trying to think of my 15.
I've are at 11 I've got Jimmy Butler, and, like you said, he's done really well for the Heat's He's He's been a player that, like, has always been good on every single team use played on.
I think that he didn't have as much room to shine with six years because he was kind of at Embiid m beaded Simmons there.
But even so, he was still one of the best player that one of the higher scores on that team.
Now he's led an underdog Heat team that I think has a good chance to make a run at the at the championship.
And there they they're totally like they.
No one thought coming into the season they would be championship contenders.
But there, one of my bold picks to make it there.
I've got Nicola Yoga Trick told just because he's so good at getting assists and working in the rest of the team and he totally is just like the glue that's holding together that Nuggets offense and so I think that with that that he could help any team because he said, Your team player and you can fit into any scheme because he could do so many things because he's so athletic.
I've got Kyrie Irving, and this one was actually tough.
I didn't really know where to put Kyrie.
I think his handles were just so good that that allows him to get open.
He's such a quick player, and he's really good at finding open looks and anyone he needs to.
He could step up and shoot the ball we saw a few years ago against the Golden State Warriors, who that clutch three over Steph Curry.
So he has the clutched in two.
You can trust him in the and when the clock is winding down, and I think that he's an all around player that I really like 14.
I've got Russell.
Westbrook is just the stats monster.
He gets so many assists, which is so nice for a team.
I mean, my favorite kind of player is a player that gets assist.
That's like when I play basketball, that's what I can try to be, and I try and make sure you really you don't try to shoot.
Oh, I do I I played a basketball game, guys.
And I I I put up a good.
Saleh had 10 points, but I had eight assists.
Pretty solid salt.
So as long as you're in basketball, I like the players that instead of taking a tougher look for themselves as you're always looking for the most open things like John Stockton Yeah, passing the Kobe, I get the pleasure.
Like little like when I've asked all off of our, like, okay, are like John socking like they're kind of play styles.
I mean, the players I model after Kobe will Larry Bird.
Well, I'm MJ was good at more than just shooting, and all of these guys were.
But like MJ, especially get more than just shooting is Well, um, but I always say, Did you say you're 15 and I 15 is Jayson Tatum from the Celtics, and he is just an all round, huge score.
He hasn't been playing great the last few games.
I think last night against the Celtics, he really struggled, but against the cell.
Klytus, I'm not last night for the Celtics.
All right, well, my 15 I finally decided first it was Donovan Mitchell.
Then it was Devin Booker.
But I have settled on Joel Embiid just because I mean, he's not.
He doesn't get a ton done in the paint.
Besides, like I mean, he catches, he gets rebounds.
He getting because he scores.
But like and he's got his moves.
But he's not like a guy like a D who can, really, just in terms of just creating himself space in the paint.
He's not quite the same as a guy like a D.
I mean, I had to put him ahead of Karl Anthony Towns because of his better defense and Devin Booker just because he s sees Mr Yes, he puts up 70 points sometimes, but like that's really because the Sun's have nobody else to pass to like he's good, but he got make.
His stat line could make him a little overrated.
I feel like, but also underrated because his team is bad.
It's weird with Devin Booker, but I decided to move him out and put your while and beat.
And instead, okay, Kevin, go logo, third string lineups.
We'll switch off.
Who? You got a point? Okay.
Oscar Robertson is my point guard and he's gonna be triple double, so he'll be scoring, but also passing.
Oh, who is my? Was my shooting guard again? Oh, yeah.
Why don't you list years? Go.
Listen, your team, if I could remember my shooting guard Uh oh, great.
My shooting guard is Clyde Drexler.
Who if I needed Oscar Robertson and Clyde Drexler gonna be scoring so much in the backcourt.
Um, Dr J at small forward is gonna be He's gonna be a scoring machine.
I'm doing weight.
I've doing okay.
Um, power forward.
Trying to think Oh, wait, no, I might have toe.
I might have to go right out.
Who? Yeah, that's a tough one.
I think I'm gonna go Ray Allen just for the shooting.
Even he's not the best all around player.
I need his shooting power forward.
I've got Karl Malone if just throw him in, throw it into Karl Malone.
I mean, this isn't as funny as my second string team because Robertson can shoot, but he could also pass.
And then, like, yes, I've got Drexler who's gonna score.
But Drexler doesn't score like he scores a lot.
Not as much as like a guy like Chamberlain did. Of course.
Then you've got the power forward.
Oh, well, for Dr J Skorton scorer, But power forward, uh, alone has already who's really good defensively.
Yeah, but he's also a scoring.
My center is Bill Russell.
Who? I mean, Bill Russell, defensive machine in the modern MBA.
He wouldn't be scoring that much because he is just a rebound in defence machine.
He'll get me my rebounds and then just kick it out to Ah, my guys.
I don't know if Bill right.
I think Bill Russell might be playing the most out of anyone in my third string.
Just cause if I like, I have my squad like Corinne, who's like in there, like sucking up points, I just need someone who can rebound to kick it out to, like, Kobe or something.
And the in the second string unit.
So maybe Russell excerpts Chamberlain sometimes walk to see Yes.
Oh, my shooting guard is S o.
My point guard is offer Robert shooting guard.
I'll go Ray Allen just for his shooting ability.
As if you need any more shooting ability on this team.
Yeah, small forward.
I've got Kevin Durant to add on to that shooting ability.
Ah, Power forward.
I have Do I have a powerful work, remember? Okay, I had Malone him.
I'm just gonna say Malone, because the more I thought about it, I had a tough issues and decision between alone.
Okay? And then more scoring with shack it center shack center.
What is that? That's literally all scorers.
Malone is like the least scoring guy on your Oscar Robertson for Yeah, he's kind of like he's Russell Westbrook. Basically.
So battle ended all for me, I guess.
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