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00:00:05
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to another episode of the Bills guys presented by Buffalo fanatics.
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Um, little different tonight.
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We've got a slightly different ah crew bringing you the show tonight.
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It's me till money, As always, hope hosting here tonight.
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We've got ah, Buffalo fanatics.
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Contributor Casey read.
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Joining me is co host tonight.
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You could find him on Twitter at Read.
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Um, and we could see it right there on the screen.
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I want to give a quick shoutout to our, um, regulars that Aaron already we've got Cory Buffaloes in the house.
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We've got Davion prices in the house.
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Cameron Taylor's here.
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Eric sandals here.
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So really appreciate you guys.
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Josh Barrett already giving me crap that were late because we were a minutely through.
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I had to go that you can blame Casey.
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He had to go to the whiz palace, as they say on parks and rec.
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Chris Yankees in the house.
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And we're going to get to Chris's comment from last week later in the show.
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We promised them that So we will do that.
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Remember, super chatters get priority tonight as they do every night.
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So feel free to super chat and let us know what you're thinking tonight.
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Tonight show is going to be a little bit different marks in the house. Thank you, Mark.
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But before we start on tonight's topics, I'm gonna give Casey a chance to introduce himself.
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He's the host of the Buff City podcast on the Buffalo Fanatics network.
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And so, Casey, why don't you give the viewers Ah, little intro of yourself and your show? Yeah, I know, Chris.
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I'm on the left. It's weird tonight.
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Yeah, we try to push them to the right, But it didn't work out.
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I don't know what's going on.
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We fired.
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We fired Judge Mathis court is not in session tonight.
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Yeah, he was fired on him.
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He is done.
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It's now the tilt money and read them and weep.
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Show.
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Um, from here on out? Uh, no, I'm kidding.
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We didn't fire Judge.
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Don't don't start that rumor.
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Um, but I did tell him that I would I would tell everybody that we fired him.
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Uh, Davian already getting super chat in there.
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Thank you, man.
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That's that's amazing.
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Love it. Yeah.
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No, we didn't fire, judge, but he is not here tonight.
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He's got some obligations he's had to take care of these very responsible guy.
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So, uh, told me.
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He just want to binge watch the witcher on inland.
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That's what he told me.
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I know if it was a lie or feels the truth, you never consent with him.
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Um, but me, I feel like it's a re union here, um, getting back together with you.
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We haven't had one on one, you know, read em and weep till money time.
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And in a long time, it feels like, what, six months? I think it was the last time.
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Last time it was just me and you.
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So it's also get the band back together.
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Um, I miss I miss judges Well, getting on here and talking to him.
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But that's okay.
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He's not my favorite anyway.
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So, um, he'll be back on next next week.
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Next time, next Monday, Monday We'll be back on Monday, which is next week.
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Um, but no, I I host the Buff City podcast on the Fanatics Network Podcast network.
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And we talk all things fancy football and gambling.
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So if you like fantasy football, right, come on down.
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If you like winning a lot of money free money come on down as well, because that's basically what we do.
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So, yeah.
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I mean, you guys need to check out Casey show, cause to be honest with you, um, right now is the time to kind of start thinking about those things, right? Fantasies on the horizon.
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Ah, lot of this situations With players opting out and things like that we're gonna talk about tonight.
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You're gonna have implications on fantasy this year.
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A swell as the gambling side of things.
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So Case is gonna have all of that cover view on a show.
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And, um, I'll probably hop on a show to a few times, you know, before the season starts, so we'll really get it going.
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Yeah.
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Chris, you're right.
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Judge isn't hiding after the job.
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Borough take, uh, he's still He's still getting crap for that.
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Um, yeah.
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We do need a show with him in his classroom to see how he treats his kids.
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Tell me when we were in for the wind.
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Thanks.
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Amy's in the house.
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Amy's irregular. So thank you, Amy.
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So tonight, um, is going to be a little bit, uh, we're gonna try to make it positive.
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Right, But we're gonna talk about.
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You know, in the last few days and last week, there's been a lot of movement on the cove it front and the implications on that front four of the NFL on.
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And we're gonna talk about a couple different topics we're going to talk about specifically in relation to the bills and how they've been directly affected.
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We're going to talk about, um, the league at whole on the whole and sort of what that means for the bills in their chances of winning division this year will get into the Patriots and that, and we're also going to talk about some scenarios that maybe, um, we hadn't really talked about a lot before because, you know, Stephen, I typically, um You know, we talk about at the onset of the show a lot of time, sort of the the up and coming Or like, the recent events around Kobe.
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But tonight, we're really gonna have to take into consideration some scenarios.
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I think that could happen, like with season shortened season.
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How's it gonna is that a possibility? Are we gonna potentially see more guys opt out? We probably will.
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The deadline for that is going to be upcoming in the next week.
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Ah, part of the agreement that we've seen from the NFL P A to Thea to the league.
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So what we're gonna do is we're gonna start with the bills and get a quick recap on what the situation is with them right now.
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So right now, as we know today, Star Little Ailey has opted out for the 2020 season.
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He's the only builds player.
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As of now, that has opted out.
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And there are five additional players on the bills that are on the Cove aid, you know, injury list or coverted.
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You know, non football related injury list, whatever.
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Whatever you wanna call it.
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And those players are, um, Dane Jackson announced today.
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Ceron Neil Vincent Taylor.
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Um, we've got Duke William's a fan favorite of the Bills Mafia and rookie undrafted defensive back Isaiah Brown.
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So we have had five guys on that list as of today, and we'd have to expect there's maybe more to come and maybe more to come on the opt out from so Casey.
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The first thing I want to ask you on tonight's show, and I want people to comment on this as well.
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We'll bring those up as well.
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What do you expect to happen from here until, let's say the beginning of the regular season when it comes to the bill, specifically in regards to opting out, Do you expecting a lot more flurry of opt outs from the Bills are expecting a lot more of a flurry of guys to make it onto this covert list.
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And what does that mean for the Bills heading into Week one? So I'm going to start with you, Casey, and see what you think about that.
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And then I'm gonna bring up some comments, as as we, uh, as we get some takes here.
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Yeah.
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So first off, I don't think a lot of Bills players will opt out this year.
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I feel like a lot of them think that they just This is kind of the year, so there's there's they're keeping that in their mind.
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And then, of course, you have a couple of players who I'm gonna do this for my family.
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I'm gonna opt out for this, but I don't see a lot of Bills players opting out a Sephora's.
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The Cove it list goes I feel like that's gonna fluctuate all throughout the season.
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You're going to see people go into your received coming off of it.
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Um, even if now, in my understand the covert list, it is that if you've been in contact with somebody, you can be put on it, Is that correct? So it doesn't necessarily mean that Hey, this person as cove it it just means, hey, let's quarantine you for two weeks and test you and see what what's gonna happen on that? So that's gonna fluctuate all throughout the season just to get some I goes onto the covet list does not mean hey, Oh, my goodness, They're not gonna play right right now.
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We don't have a lot of people on that list who is going to impact us a lot? Um, Neil would be the only person that I see that I would be like, Man, I really, really wish that hadn't happened.
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But I'm also the season doesn't start in two weeks.
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So, um, it just it just kind of depends.
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Doesn't he'll have you know, Kobe, Does he not have code? I think he got a hey had a negative and the access it again.
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It was a positive.
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It could be a, um you know, fell positive.
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There it is that they're, um is it false? Positive? Yes.
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So that's what that's what I was thinking as well.
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So I don't know that covert list is gonna fluctuate.
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We're gonna see a lot of people go on that list and then come off that list all throughout the season.
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No, I I agree with you.
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I So I think obviously the opt out the opt out list is a bit more.
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I mean, it is more permanent, right? So what that means for the people who don't know people.
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Players are given the opportunity to opt out for the 2020 season, and they will receive a salary advance of $150,000 for 2020 and defer the rest of their contract years.
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Pay whatever to 2021 beyond.
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So, in star situation, he's essentially pushing his contract out on another two years to 2021 2022.
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And he'll simply collect that $150,000 advance this year, which will come out of his salary next year.
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So, as players, you know, it's interesting truth.
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The hearts that made it truth.
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The hearts made a very interesting common here, right are guys that believe they may not make teams believe that they may get cut.
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Will they opt out to get themselves a salary advance? Ah, you know, to give themselves maybe another chance to make a team next year where there's maybe a preseason right where they have a better chance toe to show that they can make the team, Um, in those types of situations.
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So I think this is a really interesting point, right, because guys that are are fringe roster guys may take the more cautious approach and opt out, knowing that they don't have that preseason to kind of show off their skills, maybe even the team there on but to other teams that may want to pick them up.
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So I agree with you there.
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The covert list itself is likely to fluctuate.
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So, hoping that our guys, you know, you know, we don't see any huge big names come up on that list in in at the wrong time.
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So that's the other thing I kind of wanted to talk about here.
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Like the timing of the cove it lists that we mentioned is going to fluctuate, right? These guys, um, if this is happening throughout the season, you know you're gonna potentially see guys that, you know, they could be fine going up until, like, a big game with, like, let's say, God forbid Josh Allen tests positive for Kobe did.
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And he misses a Thursday night game against the Chiefs, right? And then he's back in a couple weeks.
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This could really, really in, you know, institute a lot more sort of randomness or fluctuation and team records throughout the year.
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So I want to ask you that from, like, the betting angle, right? What does this mean? Do you think, um, before the season starts from betting on things like futures for the divisions and player props, like, have you thought much about that? And what do you think? What do you think this is going to mean for things like gambling side? Right now, if you haven't already placed a bit for future, such as, uh, NFL MVP Josh Allen, it's plus 3000.
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Go ahead until about $10 on that.
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But if you haven't, if you haven't started doing future bets like that.
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You should try do it now because that wheel that will either hurt her help.
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You know, that's such a ***ue you know, answer.
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But I mean, let's be real if, say, Aaron Rodgers is going for the M V P and then all of a sudden he gets put on covert list for two weeks.
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Way we stop.
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Start to forget about him in the MPP chatter, and it's gonna help somebody like Josh Allen if you put a bet on him so it could either hurt or help you.
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Um, but as force fantasy, if you're not playing fancy, weak the weak and not putting in your lineups and not looking at things from week to week perspective, you're really messing up.
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Um, I probably keep I drop a lot of people like defense.
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I'm always dropping defense.
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I'm picking up a defense that is se playing the worst offense and leak like I'm picking up that defense quickly.
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I'm not keeping one defense throughout the whole year, so that's that's how I play it.
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And it normally turns out pretty well for me on, and that's only going to you're really gonna have to study this year.
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As stupid as that sounds that you're gonna have to study for fantasy football. But you are.
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But you're gonna need to know who's on the covert.
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Listen, who's not? Because if you're starting Julio Jones and he's on the covert list for two weeks and you're starting him, you're probably gonna lose right? So you definitely need to be starting our study.
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He's quite sugar popping up, and I'm like, What is going on now? I'm just bringing up comments as you're talking, because I think there's some people that have some good comments.
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We don't you know, Um, now one thing.
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One thing we mentioned was is, Do you think a lot of players on the bubble are going to opt out? And that's it.
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I mean, possibly right.
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But you also have to think that these you know, these players, especially on the bubble, right? They're not thinking Oh, my gosh, I've made it right so they're not comfortable, right? Or And if they are comfortable and that's probably 1% they're not gonna make the roster eat.
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It's right.
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In my opinion, you have to you have to be a dog, right? You have to want something right? So if you're on the fringe and you're like, Hey, I want an easy way out, I'm just gonna opt out just for the selfish reason off.
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I get the money now and then it will push it to the next year.
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I don't see a lot of players on the bubble doing that, but I see a lot of veterans on the bubble doing that right, so I don't see young guys doing that. Prevented veterans.
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Might right, get the money while you can and then push off for the next year.
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But as far as like younger guys, I don't see younger guys doing that because I think they see it in their mind cause I'm young, dude.
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So in my mind, I'm thinking right, that opens up opportunities.
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So if you see somebody who opts out and regardless for what there were reason is, it might be a I do want to protect my family, and that's that's awesome reason.
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That's no one's ever going to fault you for that.
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But as a young guy, whether you like that guy or not, you respect him or not.
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You look at that, you see Dang, here's my opportunity.
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Let's go and get that right.
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Instead of saying, Hey, let's opt out just to get this money right? So that's that's my take on all that.
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Yeah, And this is a good comment from Daniel here.
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Thanks for the comment, Daniel.
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Another regular of ours players with a lot of guaranteed money may act on fear of us of, Ah ah, season being cut short, right, and potentially being canceled and they don't opt out, they potentially lose that guaranteed money.
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So that could be a situation to watch.
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I would imagine, um, that this is something that they had to have addressed during the ah, the sort of recent agreement between the NFL, P A and the league.
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But, ah, this is not anything that I think should be a surprise if the league if the if the league says if you don't opt out in the season, get shorter and and you're not guaranteed that full money, that could be a reason why people would would, ah, you know, would opt out.
00:14:54
So I guess from that standpoint, let's transition to talking about how this affects the bills on a macro level meaning from the rest of the league standpoint, we've had about 25 to 30 guys already opt out for 2020 and and another handful of guys already on the covert list.
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We've even had some free agents opt out like a A guy like Larry War Furred who maybe Bills fans know because we've talked about potentially signing him as a free agent addition.
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He's already opted out for the 2020 season as a free agent, so he's not gonna play.
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Um, what does this mean for the Bills on a macro level, like from the division? And then for just for the rest of leagues? We've seen some key guys on the Patriots.
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Yeah, I think, Ah, five guys on the Patriots, including some key guys, namely Donta Hightower, have opted out for 2020.
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So, in that sense, do we feel like that? There's maybe depending on who opts out here, and we won't know the full list for another couple days.
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Is this an advantage for the Bills? And I would have to say it is based on that.
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Now do we are reading too much into this.
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Are we making too much of these guys opting out? Is it going to affect it? Isn't it affect the ah, the division that much? I mean, the odds have already changed.
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Write the bills have now once again leapfrog the Pats from a nod standpoint, to win the division as having the best odds once this happened.
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So where do you make of that? Of course.
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We're reading too much into it.
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Of course we are.
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I mean, it's the off season.
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We've had nothing to talk about for six months.
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So yes, we're gonna We're gonna read too much into it.
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We're going to sit there and just start playing mind games.
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We have no idea.
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The biggest thing about this is is that as long as the Patriots or Khost, Bill Belichick, I see them as a threat because I respect Bill Bell.
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Check it. Doesn't matter who he is.
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Is the next guy up? Right.
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Um, he had a small town, a small time corner, right? Came from Mississippi.
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Won him a Super Bowl, right? It was an undrafted free agent.
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So it is from a bill standpoint, awesome to kind of see their defense say, I'm not gonna play right to be like.
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That's what I'm talking about.
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Yep, We're definitely gonna get this going, but at the same time, it's next Man up and Bill Bill check embodies that.
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Same next man up.
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So I think it's I think Buffalo will win the division 100%.
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I think that I'm a fan.
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If you don't think that right then, are you really a fan? But in the back of my mind, I'm thinking right, well, until we prove that we can win it them, we can't.
00:17:31
So, um, that's just my my thoughts on that.
00:17:35
So Elliot has a good question here on the topic of roster depth, I guess, with people opting out.
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So, Elliot, thanks for the comment.
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Question your another regular Mars.
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Does the NFL suffer from not having their own official minor league to pull from other leagues? Do I know we have the insane CFL? But is that enough? Well, in the context of, you know, let's say, players opting out and people going on the cove it list, You know, the NFL has the ability here to step in and allow larger roster sizes.
00:18:04
I don't personally believe that the NFL suffers from this depending on how they allow the makeup of the roster, right? Do they allow an expanded practice squad that they allow expanded, active and roster? Right, So, you know, that's something they can do to account for guys coming in and out from the COVITZ situation.
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I don't necessarily think they suffer from it prior to the season because you go into camp with 90 guys, right? And you only, you know, in a typical season you have 90 guys going into camp.
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You come out the other end with 53.
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So do you really suffer that much from not having an additional sort of minor league? On top of that, I think we're what suffers is that the players that get cut and then don't end up on practice squads are just kind of sitting out there, and they have nowhere to play necessarily.
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And I think the XFL and things like that tried to solve for that.
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So in, Ah, in a season here where you may see expanded roster sizes and you have that potential, I don't think it hurts the league right now.
00:19:03
I think where it hurts him is like once the season starts if they don't expand the roster.
00:19:07
So good question.
00:19:08
Casey thought something on in this aspect of the covitz situation.
00:19:13
No, I don't think the NFL is suffering, because if you look around you look at all the other minor leagues that are going on now. They're canceled.
00:19:19
They are not blame.
00:19:20
Right? Um, I think hockey their their minor league affiliate just said they are going to try to start the season in November or December.
00:19:28
Right.
00:19:29
So in this aspect of it, no, I don't think they're suffering.
00:19:31
But in the bigger aspect, Yes, Absolutely. We need.
00:19:34
Like, I thought XFL was going to be that, um And it should have been that cove.
00:19:38
It gotten away.
00:19:39
Um uh, Till if you don't mind.
00:19:43
Bryan Adams has an awesome question.
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You haven't find it? Bryan Adams, Um, the hit singer for the summer, um, summer song, Summer of 69.
00:19:56
As an awesome question he asked, Is that proven it, though? If the patriots on at full potential.
00:20:02
And here is my answer to that, right? Who cares? Okay.
00:20:05
And and I'm not trying t come at Brian.
00:20:08
I'm sure he's a swell guy, but everybody's gonna be saying that, and it's really annoying, right? Oh, it's a shortened season.
00:20:13
What? The Bills win the Super Bowl, right? Oh, well, that didn't count.
00:20:15
It's just 2020 right? No, it did count.
00:20:18
These guys are still playing games, right? These guys, they're still doing it.
00:20:21
I can't.
00:20:22
We can't help it, right? It's not like, you know, something else happened. The Bills.
00:20:28
If they beat the Patriots right, then they beat the Patriots.
00:20:31
It just is what it is.
00:20:32
It's not our fault.
00:20:33
That's called Hey, want to be a better coach and coach of your players, right? They should have been at full potential, right? Bill Bell check has full control over that whole roster.
00:20:41
He's the GM.
00:20:42
He's the coach, right? If he doesn't get somebody in there filled offshoot shoes and making it the full potential that's on, you know, right, that has nothing do with the Bills.
00:20:50
But all the bills could do is come in there and beat up, right? Take care of business, handle your business and just still, it's just to steal a phrase from Bill Belgique himself.
00:21:00
Do your job, right? That's all the bills can do is do your job and they beat them.
00:21:04
They beat him, right? It just is what? It is it Who cares, right? So I don't know of a lot of you have been saying that.
00:21:10
What if the bills win the Super Bowl and then people start talking about Oh, well, it's the tweet Tweet season is account.
00:21:15
No, you don't get an ass trick, but you just don't.
00:21:17
Our guys show up, they're gonna do their thing.
00:21:20
So on that one anymore, you go in.
00:21:23
I was saying, This is the other side of that argument that you're making right? That Elliott points out here is says, I would look at whoever wins this year's coming, you know, coming over more adversity than normal in kudos, whoever that is because, like your this is, there's other things that you have to to get through this year, other than just facing a team who may be a few men down, right? You have to worry about your own team, potentially being a few men down.
00:21:44
You have to, you know, no preseason like there's no like, is it is a tough situation for every team right now, and so, like you said like the covert list is going to be fluctuating all throughout the year.
00:21:58
We're gonna have guys that go in and off that other teams are guys that go in and off that it's going to be very difficult to manage the roster on a week to week basis.
00:22:05
Assuming we still have a full season, we'll get to that a little bit later.
00:22:08
But I think this is a good point.
00:22:10
And I think Steve made this point as well a couple shows ago.
00:22:13
Is that like I mean, you could You could look at it the other way and say that whoever wins this year actually maybe deserves more credit, then they would have otherwise.
00:22:24
So, um, you know, I think that's a good point from Eliot right there.
00:22:28
I think that Chris makes the common here deadline for opting out.
00:22:32
Is this coming Monday? So it's not like guys gonna come out, opt out right before the season starts.
00:22:35
I don't know if it was officially Monday over. It was August 5th.
00:22:38
I think there was some back and forth and maybe the third.
00:22:40
Now I don't know if that's official, but either way it sounds like the opt out date is next week is going to be next week, So that's a good point.
00:22:47
Um, not right.
00:22:48
Like, not like this is gonna happen right before the seasons with guys.
00:22:51
We're gonna have to make that call pretty soon.
00:22:54
Just getting back quickly to that upto the point that Eliot made and Chris expanding on that, winning a super rule that this year is actually a great accomplishment with Kobe throwing a wrench in everyone's team plans.
00:23:03
That's exactly right, and that's the other side of it.
00:23:05
So, like you said Casey, who cares, Right? You when you win, no one's gonna take that Lombardi away from you.
00:23:11
If you win my trip from every hair, right? Just handle your business.
00:23:15
Who cares? Yep, Exactly so, uh, truth Toe hearts.
00:23:21
He's are like he's our resident, kind of like bringing us back to reality guy like he likes.
00:23:26
He likes that he likes to kind of like, uh, throat with you.
00:23:29
No doubt start flames a little bit, but if he goes, he was.
00:23:32
If we win, it doesn't count with top teams when they will be phrase.
00:23:35
So it's the classic double standard.
00:23:37
We see all the time in the media.
00:23:39
Write the bills.
00:23:40
If the Bills win, it's because the other team lost its never because the Bills actually did something good.
00:23:44
So it'll be just thought that on a more you know, on a grander scale.
00:23:48
And you know what? That's who cares? I can't They can't take it away from us. They just can't.
00:23:53
Yep, Daniel, The Houston Astros, you know, stupid little championship away.
00:23:58
They can't take that away, right, Daniel? Same comment.
00:24:01
And Daniel's another one.
00:24:02
Who? Ah, he's not afraid to go against the grain with us on this show, and we like that.
00:24:07
So he's saying here, every team starting from the same place, all the only other person that did exactly right. Exactly.
00:24:13
Right, um So look, um, it is it is that situation right? And I think that's where we can now transition into talking about, um, you know that the even more macro possibility here and Tom's kind of made the point that will lead us into our next topic here.
00:24:33
They will not play football this season.
00:24:35
So with all of this stuff going on, covert lists, players opting out the situation at hand, seems to be that we're plowing through right now and things are gonna happen.
00:24:48
Training camps have not been delayed.
00:24:50
At this point in time we're talking about, we're going to be in August on Saturday and once we hit August.
00:24:56
That's it, man. That's the homestretch.
00:24:58
Until the season starts.
00:24:59
Like for me.
00:25:00
Once you once August rolls around, that's when I, like, really start feeling it right.
00:25:04
I start doing my mock trail NC start watching training camp by hard knocks starts coming around Garnett, you're in my wife.
00:25:13
Yeah, you really start getting that feel like we're so close.
00:25:17
So Tom says they will not play football this season.
00:25:22
What are some scenarios that you think could Or maybe we are reading too much into again? Maybe we won't play football.
00:25:30
What are some scenarios in your mind that you feel could potentially alter this season, if any? You may not think that, but do you have any? I feel like I've drink a whole pot of coffee before I came on the show, and I haven't real quick. Sean.
00:25:45
The judge does look different because we fired him. Moving on.
00:25:48
Um, Tom, man, I really think that we're gonna play football this season.
00:25:52
He's worked.
00:25:54
Okay, let's put put.
00:25:55
Put yourself in the mindset of ah, billionaire owner, right? How much money are you gonna lose if you don't play football this season, right? They don't care about the players, right? There it is.
00:26:07
Elliott, get out of my I'm getting my mind, man.
00:26:10
Right with the salt Bank.
00:26:11
He's going, He's going real quick.
00:26:13
But that's so true, right? They don't care about players.
00:26:15
They don't care about the health.
00:26:16
They care about the money that they're gonna make off TV deals.
00:26:18
They care about the money that they're gonna make off their players playing right? So 100% we're having a season this year right now, whether or not it will be, um, long or if it will be sure, right.
00:26:29
That's the thing that I don't know yet in back my head.
00:26:31
I'm thinking, Yeah, it's gonna be the same because NFL don't care.
00:26:34
Right there is gonna play, But I can also see it being shortened to like, 12 games.
00:26:39
It's a full 16.
00:26:40
I could see that.
00:26:41
Right.
00:26:42
Um, too much money around.
00:26:43
You're right too much.
00:26:44
There's there's too much money that owners would lose if they didn't play football.
00:26:49
Right? So us, his fans, That's awesome.
00:26:52
It does kind of suck in the aspect of these owners just not caring about their players. Right? Answer.
00:26:57
There's some good owners out there, but you can like a guy, but you can like a $1,000,000,000 more, right? So I don't know.
00:27:04
Yeah, we're definitely playing football this year.
00:27:06
1%. In fact, I'm a gambling man.
00:27:08
I don't know if you all could tell, but I would bet my whole paycheck from fanatics that we're having a season this year.
00:27:15
Chris withy Awesome Ghostbusters reference for I'm pretty sure I'm, like, 100% that this is a Ghostbusters quotas.
00:27:23
Yeah, I love that.
00:27:25
Um, we've probably got some maybe some younger viewers on here, maybe haven't seen Ghostbusters.
00:27:30
Go check it out.
00:27:31
The original go special way.
00:27:33
We have to lay that line.
00:27:35
The original Ghostbusters with Dan Ackroyd and Bill Murray.
00:27:38
Um, so and Sigourney Weaver, you got to check it out if you haven't seen it.
00:27:42
I mean, you're not gonna, but you're not gonna be blown away by the ah c g i in that one, but, uh, it is a good It is a good one.
00:27:49
The judges better your younger brother.
00:27:53
Okay.
00:27:54
See your Steve? I don't know.
00:27:57
Steve's turning 30 this year.
00:27:59
I really am.
00:28:01
So you are.
00:28:02
But I am better looking.
00:28:04
Kept a copy, my mullet at one point.
00:28:06
What was up with that? And then he wouldn't gotta fade like Is he trying to be me? I don't know.
00:28:12
We got ah Fry until in in the house.
00:28:15
This my brother, by the way, for Final Four plus Masters post Super Bowl. Gonna be sick in April.
00:28:20
So he's saying, Hey, maybe, just maybe the season gets delayed and we end up having football into the spring.
00:28:26
Could this happen? Could this be a possibility that the NFL delays the season at all? I think at this point, they probably don't just because it is already schedules.
00:28:37
Been out.
00:28:38
They've got the Monday night skit like it just seems like they're too far into it to change it at this point.
00:28:45
So, uh, I hate to disagree with my brother here, but I think he's kind of half joking.
00:28:50
So, um, you're wrong, Ryan.
00:28:53
Good.
00:28:54
Out of here s Oh, yeah.
00:28:56
Ah, TV Money's where they make their money, fans in the stands. Just extra cash.
00:29:00
Agree here, Jason.
00:29:01
Under your And I believe from what we've seen in Atlanta, has already come out with their protocols like teams.
00:29:09
Uh, the individual, like sort of location jurisdictions are gonna have a say on what they do with fans in the stands.
00:29:16
I believe the Falcons came out and said they weren't gonna have more than 20,000 in the Mercedes been stadium.
00:29:22
So I think that's going to be up to the individual states and local sort of jurisdictions to decide for from fans standpoint, to be honest with you, this is, at this point totally on, right.
00:29:33
Like the TV money's where they're going to get it.
00:29:35
Yeah, the fans in the stands.
00:29:36
It's extra for them.
00:29:38
And I agree.
00:29:39
Um, you know, they're still going to sell merchandise through NFL feeling, but I mean, so it's all going to be there.
00:29:46
Um, so Chris of the common here, I think teams off the Scout Street free agents.
00:29:52
Other teams practice cause a waiver are extending point.
00:29:54
This season, you may have to replace 10 players.
00:29:56
This is true, right? If you end up with the team that who like, who's to say that you won't have a, you know, have, ah, cluster right of, like, 2025 guys from the same team that all test, right? Then what are you going to do? They're gonna have to have some kind of, ah, way to handle that.
00:30:14
And that's why I do think that they're going to do something with the roster.
00:30:16
Sizes either Expand practice squad, expand active gameday roster, whatever it takes.
00:30:22
Um, so, yeah, back to this, uh, Ryan's comment going to take months off in the winter, delaying started playoffs like College Bowl season pushing games to every other week, the playoffs.
00:30:32
Oh, well, actually, that could be a possibility where you play out the regular season and the Maybe you have a little bit more space between playoff games in the Super Bowl.
00:30:40
Kind of like they do in college with the championship game, although that's kind of annoying toe weight for that.
00:30:45
But hey, it's a possibility.
00:30:47
I would imagine if they're gonna play the regular season.
00:30:49
Normally they wouldn't do that, But we'll see about that.
00:30:53
Um, so you're so you.
00:30:55
You are of the stance that there's not gonna be any change.
00:30:58
The schedule we're gonna plow through football is going to go on as scheduled.
00:31:03
Our youth.
00:31:04
Are you confident there will be a 16 game season? No.
00:31:07
No, I'm not confident.
00:31:09
I would say about, like, 87% sure that they were gonna have a 16 game schedule.
00:31:14
Um, but if I do see it, I do see them shorten it.
00:31:18
Um, just like Yep.
00:31:21
JW said, um, I see them Jordan in a little bit, but probably about 12 games and then start in the playoffs.
00:31:27
I see it happening like that, but, like said, I'm 87% sure we're gonna have a full season on our hands.
00:31:35
That's, you know, that's enough for me to bet on.
00:31:37
Like I'm enough to pull the trigger on that one.
00:31:40
Okay.
00:31:41
And that So that means that look real quick.
00:31:44
We're looking fresh.
00:31:45
And that pro property dude like your barber, he got you going Good dude as a good cut right there.
00:31:50
Congrats on that one.
00:31:52
That is that it? That does look nice.
00:31:54
I wish I could do that, but I can't.
00:31:56
So I want to before we get to Q and A in a few minutes.
00:32:01
I want to I want you to kind of talk to me about and, you know, bring the viewers inside your head a bit on what you're thinking.
00:32:10
Gambling lies here.
00:32:12
Given the situations we've talked about today, the uncer*****y around Kobe, it lists the uncer*****y around who's gonna opt out.
00:32:18
Although we will have clarity on that before the season starts.
00:32:21
What, if anything, are you going to change about your approach going into this year from a gambling sampling? Or are you not going to change your approach? It all I think I'm really gonna change that much.
00:32:33
I'm still going to take it as, uh, who were they playing in my bed? Not because of that aspect of it.
00:32:40
Um, am I taking the over or am I taking the, um and you gotta go off screen, do that? That is too fresh.
00:32:48
Um, no, but by taking am I taking the point spread? It just depends.
00:32:52
Like depends on what? I'm Betty.
00:32:54
Right.
00:32:55
Um, is that offense is gonna be a shootout, right, Cause if it is, I'm taking over.
00:33:00
I don't think that really determines on how home changed my outlook.
00:33:04
Now, one that will determine at the gambling and aspect of things is, does a core back sit out? Where does the star wide receiver sit out? Or does the star running back store skill position players in general? Do they sit out right? Imagine if Aaron Rodgers decides to sit out, right? If he sits out and then you have to throw in that that new guy right on that is lauded as the next Patrick Mahomes because everybody's gonna be the next Patrick Mahomes.
00:33:28
Right? But if he comes in there and he does terrible, right, I'm probably going to bet against bet against Green Bay every single game.
00:33:36
Right? So that would be the only time that would change anything.
00:33:40
Other than that, I'm still going to go off studying it each week.
00:33:44
Studying who their plan and going off that way.
00:33:46
Oh, also, if you listen to the show and you hear me say that I'm gonna take a team that played against the bills, it doesn't necessarily mean that I think the bills we're gonna lose.
00:33:55
Okay.
00:33:56
If you look at the point spread and the and the plus and minus all that good stuff.
00:34:00
Say, Oakland is like, plus seven, right? And they're playing the bills.
00:34:04
Okay, I'm probably gonna take Oakland in that, okay? Because all they have to do is get within seven points, and I win that game.
00:34:11
Okay, so that doesn't necessarily mean that I'm not a big fan of the Bills.
00:34:14
I want the bills to win.
00:34:15
Oakland can just, you know, get within a field goal, and I can have a heart attack that way.
00:34:20
Right.
00:34:22
So, uh, this is an interesting question here.
00:34:25
Uh, what happens? Have a head coach, gets cove it and order the coordinators.
00:34:29
Now, I'm not familiar with what The prototype won't say anything.
00:34:32
Yeah, um, in it.
00:34:34
And I know that the coaches, I believe headlines will be wearing masks if I'm not, But not that that's gonna matter.
00:34:45
If one of them has Cove in any way, they're not gonna let them.
00:34:48
Um, you know, they're not going to let them have any contact with the team, right? So I think they're probably gonna be quarantined.
00:34:54
We're gonna have to be, you know, test negative before they're allowed to come back.
00:34:58
That's what Daniels saying here.
00:35:00
So and I kind of trust Daniel on this.
00:35:02
He's usually pretty spot on with his, Um, his accuracy is here, So here you go.
00:35:07
Can't come back until CV free Kobe free for a period of time.
00:35:11
Um, so this leads me into something I wanted to talk about.
00:35:15
Conspiracy theory wise, I want and Steve's usually are conspiracy theory guy, but I'm gonna I'm gonna throw a conspiracy theory at you.
00:35:23
I don't know.
00:35:24
It's really conspiracy theory.
00:35:25
Or if it's just more of like, um, I thought I have on what could happen this year when regards Because you mentioned quarterback.
00:35:32
And yes, if you remember the first couple years, you know, they were doing the concussion testing right where they had the guy on the sideline doing the like, the Independent, the independent neurologist or whatever.
00:35:45
That was on the sideline doing the testing for concussions in like it always seemed to be that the quarterback, like, remember that infamous Russell Wilson game where he just, like, went into the tent and came right out like a second later and went right back onto the field.
00:35:59
And it was like it was I think it was on a prime time game, and they're like, Well, Russell Wills in a concussion tests and then that he's back on the field while a glass.
00:36:08
So I'm wondering conspiracy theory to mean says, if a the star quarterback are they gonna? If they if they test, are they going to potentially slip through the cracks here and still play? It's obviously a lot different situation with this because you're somewhat a contagious virus and not a concussion that doesn't affect anyone else on the field by in my in my heart and in my head.
00:36:35
I feel like if if Patrick Mahomes got a test for Cove it and it was a huge game that the Chiefs were like on prime time, is there a chance he's playing in that game? Even if he tests, Um, Patrick Holmes is too out spoken.
00:36:50
He's not playing, But you get somebody like, um, like Aaron Rodgers.
00:36:57
That's sure, Josh, I am on the left tonight, so anything's possible.
00:37:01
So I don't know.
00:37:03
I think I think it's a little bit different, right, because it is a virus, right? Be at that point.
00:37:09
It like a lot of guys are gonna be like, Oh my God, I have covert like I need to not do anything.
00:37:14
At that point, football becomes just a game again.
00:37:17
So I think it's a little bit different than a concussion.
00:37:19
Um, I had a concussion once.
00:37:21
I went back into the boxing ring, right, and my brother was like, You might die and I was like, Let's go right So ah, concussion is a little bit different than that.
00:37:29
Um Pierre Kingpin said.
00:37:31
I think the NFL is guaranteed to go the full season on leeway.
00:37:34
It wouldn't work is if there's a mass leak outbreak.
00:37:38
Looks like league teams are mainly focused on mastering protocols to prevent outbreaks.
00:37:43
Right? Um, we can't really go into a bubble as the NFL can me, I got no.
00:37:48
Do we play just one home game, like in a centralized location like NHL is doing in Edmonton like, how do we do that? Go Preds.
00:37:56
Well, that's also I mean, the NFL has had a lot more time to to prepare and get their protocols right than other leagues have, right, Like a lot of this stuff happened in the middle of seasons for other leagues like NHL N B A.
00:38:08
So they had to kind of adapt on the fly and figure out the best way they could kind of either continue or complete their season, whereas the NFL hasn't played any games yet.
00:38:18
So I feel like they've had since what February march to figure this out.
00:38:23
Like Pierre said, mastering the protocols for preventing the spread, it's gonna be very difficult to have a bubble situation in the NFL.
00:38:31
Um, so, yeah, I mean truth hearts basically throwing.
00:38:35
Ah, you know, throwing my conspiracy theory out of the out of the water or everyone would be a huge I agree.
00:38:41
I just It was just something that it's going to be weird, right? If a guy test positive, it's a star guy and he ends up missing, like, two games and he comes back.
00:38:49
It's just gonna be odd, right? It's just gonna be very odd.
00:38:53
Um, pull.
00:38:54
Pull up, Nicholas, man, he's calling me out Over here.
00:38:58
Dude, you're way too content on what's going what's going on above the camera.
00:39:02
Um, or what do you say? Dude, you're way too content on what's above.
00:39:06
The camera is going on over there ate.
00:39:08
My wife was screaming, and then she comes out of the bedroom and she's just staring at me.
00:39:11
I had no idea what was happening.
00:39:13
I didn't know, like, anything at all.
00:39:15
Then she, like, start playing ball with the dog like it was very confusing time.
00:39:19
Like I don't have a home office.
00:39:20
I'm sorry I'm not retrieved.
00:39:22
A I don't have a home office to do this.
00:39:24
So Nicholas calling me out the man, huh? Noticed me? Pages to tilt.
00:39:28
He's the one talking about conspiracy theorists.
00:39:31
Great movie, by the way, Mel Gibson.
00:39:33
Julia Roberts said he ever checked that.
00:39:35
It's another old one conspiracy theory anyway, uh, so, um, Daniel says don't forget Sally Cat will be down.
00:39:43
That could weigh on decision making.
00:39:44
Yet that lets you room, um, so any Fine. Okay. Okay.
00:39:50
Nick, I know you're just playing.
00:39:52
I'm just playing with you.
00:39:53
I think it's hilarious. Thanks for calling me out.
00:39:55
Ah, yeah, I've called out.
00:39:57
I've called out Steve on the last few shows.
00:39:59
Just cause he's had some, you know, the quarterback thing, and then a few other things.
00:40:03
So don't don't feel too bad about, um okay.
00:40:07
any anyone with any more comments on the covitz situation? The bills with Kobe Did Casey any our final thoughts from you on that before we open it up to Q and A for the last 15 or 20 minutes of the show? No, not stuck my head, man.
00:40:22
No, um, I think Cove, it will impact a lot, just like the Patriots.
00:40:26
I think that's probably gonna be the biggest things, because we'll see people going on off the covert list.
00:40:31
Um, and I don't know, like these tests were getting back pretty quickly.
00:40:35
So my wife was tested for cove it while I was away.
00:40:38
Um, in another state, which is awesome for me, right? I didn't have to go and get tested.
00:40:42
I was getting tested every day, which is annoying.
00:40:45
Um, but she got tested, and it took her about a week to get the results back.
00:40:49
Now, if you look on, um, now, I think somebody said it on Twitter that the test the bills were running.
00:40:56
We're getting back in about a date.
00:40:57
Right? So for my wife, when she got tested, she had a corn seen for two weeks or until she got her test back and hopefully, thank goodness it came back in a week.
00:41:06
But with the NFL's come back in a day.
00:41:08
So we make the player who gets tested and that gets put on that list for a day, comes back off it.
00:41:14
I don't know if maybe that's how it works, but potentially Saturday.
00:41:18
Walk through, get tested and then be out on Sunday.
00:41:22
Right? Absolute that that could happen.
00:41:24
So that's the probably the most interesting thing that could happen.
00:41:28
Yeah.
00:41:29
Um, I agree.
00:41:31
Okay, so Chris put your question again in the comments section, and we'll definitely get to that.
00:41:35
First, I want to just hit one last comment on the co bid before we get to the Q and A.
00:41:40
So go ahead and put that question in the comments, and we will.
00:41:43
We will hit that one as the first question there's going to quickly go back to piers.
00:41:47
Comment around, uh, leave may have no choice, choice but to expand rosters for one year, maybe league drop training Camp Russell from 1980 to potentially allow for 80 men for one year.
00:41:58
The unknown sucks, so I think that it's a great um you know, it's a great point.
00:42:03
And we talked about this a little bit, right? Is that I am a little surprised.
00:42:09
I guess that the league hasn't made an announcement on roster sizes yet.
00:42:13
Now, this may becoming The teams may know it may not just not be official yet.
00:42:19
Um, but this could be a an opportunity for them to go down to 80 and just have an 80 man roster and just make the active gameday roster, you know, whatever.
00:42:29
55 60 whatever you want to do or I'm sorry.
00:42:31
The Thea Active restaurant.
00:42:34
Yeah, active roster on game day, like 50.
00:42:36
But you have an 80 man roster with, like, some semblance of a practice squad.
00:42:39
So I you know, I like that idea because back to Elliot's point, like of having like the, like, the minor leagues and what it would allow you to to have a buffer, right? For potentially a cluster of guys getting tested positive.
00:42:55
So the judge, the judge is in the house, and the judge is in the house tonight.
00:43:02
Hey, took a break from Witcher to come over here and watch us.
00:43:05
Also also is that's cheap, man like 1 99 This is your own Shelley.
00:43:11
Really, really.
00:43:12
How that's calling back in his pocket.
00:43:16
He could live, literally have done, like $1000.
00:43:18
It's going back in your pocket like you were that keep a dollar 99 is like that.
00:43:24
That is cheaper than a stick of deodorant.
00:43:26
You think we're worth less than a stick of deodorant, So thanks, man, I really appreciate that.
00:43:32
Well, im glad he's watching, and he's not just blowing off the show. I know he's done.
00:43:36
He's gone.
00:43:37
He just soaked in left.
00:43:38
He had to work late, So it's nice to see.
00:43:41
And in this picture, he's got a nice haircut.
00:43:43
So for those who don't know you, Steve did get a haircut, so he does not have the mullet anymore.
00:43:49
So we're gonna get to Christmas question for says we start the Q and A section.
00:43:52
We got a good 15 minutes left for Q and A so Chris is question what players get who get cut and don't make our team.
00:44:00
We'll get claimed or signed by other teams, and keep in mind the bills have a depth.
00:44:04
Have depth, better depth now than they've had for a long time.
00:44:09
So Casey, any any players come to mind for you that get cut from the Bills and then make it on to another team's active roster? Uh, the 1st 1 that came to my mind was Duke Williams.
00:44:21
I didn't know anything about it, but, like Duke, Williams was the first name that popped up because he's a good player, but he he's aging a little bit, and I think we've got younger studs in there that could potentially beat him out really quickly.
00:44:32
But he Duke Williams is good enough to be on an active roster somewhere.
00:44:37
I don't think it's gonna be with Bills.
00:44:38
I think he gets cut.
00:44:39
He gets.
00:44:40
He goes to a team that needs wide receivers.
00:44:42
Yeah, I mean, for me, I think it's It is.
00:44:45
It is.
00:44:46
A wide receiver is a good candidate here, right? Because we've been talking a lot about like who makes the bottom of this roster from a wide receivers standpoint, like where we've kind of penciled.
00:44:56
Andre Robertson is a lock and then you've got your top three plus Kate Davis.
00:45:01
It's going to make the team, so that leaves you with guys like Isaiah Hodgins, Duke Williams, Isaiah Mackenzie like thes air.
00:45:07
All guys that, uh, like are gonna probably make a team if they get cut by the bills.
00:45:13
So I do like that.
00:45:14
I also think that honestly, if one, whoever the kicker is that doesn't win the competition.
00:45:20
Oh, yeah, Whether it's Hauschka or bass, I think one of those guys could could get picked up by no team.
00:45:27
The Bills may try to get out from Hauschka maybe a year early, before he kind of really slides.
00:45:33
But another team, like maybe, like the Bears or some team that's really struggled to find a kicker in the last few years could pick him up.
00:45:39
Um, Joshua, thanks for the super chat.
00:45:43
Prettier than you judge talking about.
00:45:45
I guess he's talking about You gotta be investing Daniels.
00:45:50
This house good.
00:45:52
I agree.
00:45:53
I mean, that's it.
00:45:54
Foster to the Chiefs.
00:45:56
Bet on it.
00:45:57
It fosters another one.
00:45:58
I'm going to even mention Robert Foster, and that makes it receivers.
00:46:00
He's another guy that could get cut and picked up by another team.
00:46:03
I know We mean Steve, like Foster as a potential, uh, trade partner with I was really afraid a za guy because, like again, like we're talk about four guys there.
00:46:13
Foster, Williams, Mackenzie and Hodgins.
00:46:17
There's a chance that only one of those guys makes a team.
00:46:19
There's a good chance.
00:46:20
Now again, we've talked about it a lot.
00:46:23
That if roster sizes get expanded, this may not get this.
00:46:27
Make you think.
00:46:30
So you're gonna want to keep all of roster sizes expended.
00:46:34
Exactly.
00:46:35
And that won't be. That won't be an issue.
00:46:37
Um, and that will be something that really plays into the bill's favorite.
00:46:40
Given their depth, right.
00:46:41
They could have got a good one through 53 but they've really got a good depth one through 71 years.
00:46:46
Tribute.
00:46:47
That's that's good on trade rather than cuts right they did last year.
00:46:52
They traded with the Pats often the linemen.
00:46:54
Ryan, somebody can't be over the top of my head.
00:46:56
I got sixth round pick back for him, right.
00:46:58
And they were gonna cut him anywhere.
00:46:59
Russell Bodine? Yeah.
00:47:01
This the center? Yep.
00:47:02
Um, Krista and I think we could get a pick for trading Robert Foster 100%.
00:47:06
Yeah, I think we could, too.
00:47:09
Yep. Yep.
00:47:10
I think so, too.
00:47:11
Um, we like the Packers is a potential trade partner there.
00:47:15
Um, so this isn't it.
00:47:18
This is it.
00:47:19
I wouldn't say this is a conspiracy theory, but it's something that a lot of people have been brought bringing up on social media.
00:47:24
Belichick will exploit this somehow scope of this stuff with a ton of players.
00:47:27
They're gonna release the builder roster and weird, cheeky way.
00:47:30
People seem to think that there's someone for some reason, like you look at it, right.
00:47:34
The Pats have an outsized number of guys who have opted out so far.
00:47:37
Now it could even out by Monday or Wednesday or whenever the opted out date is.
00:47:41
But is there any way here that Belichick is like, somehow gaming the system from a Kobe perspective? I don't see it.
00:47:49
Maybe it's not obvious to me, but is somebody need somebody said something on Twitter? And I love Twitter cause they're so stupid on their social media is the greatest because he will just say whatever they want on social media.
00:48:02
And then then they like what? No, I'm right.
00:48:04
But somebody said that, um, Bill Belichick has such a good relationship with his guys.
00:48:10
He's telling them to opt out right so they can roll over that guaranteed money.
00:48:15
Okay, so he can tank for forever, Lawrence And I just think that's the dumbest thing in the world.
00:48:22
Like like, so bad.
00:48:24
Like, I want to go and punch whoever said that in the face built Bellatrix not tanking for Trevor Lawrence.
00:48:29
So he's not gonna take now.
00:48:31
He might try to trade up for, um, for Lawrence. Might have about year.
00:48:34
You might fall a little bit and offsetting Bill Belichick trade up into 15 16 whatever and try to get him.
00:48:40
But I don't see him tanking.
00:48:41
I don't see Bill Belgique talking to these guys and saying, Hey, don't play this year.
00:48:45
Get your money next year like I don't see it.
00:48:47
But then again, I don't know e think it happened with Bill Bus that he's a I can't wait until he retires.
00:48:54
And negative read all about his life story.
00:48:56
Yeah, so Elliot says packages.
00:48:58
So its functions to you.
00:48:59
So I need wide receiver so again could be an option for Foster.
00:49:02
They're in the trade truth.
00:49:04
The heart says.
00:49:05
I think the legal limit transactions.
00:49:07
But let's say we cut Barkley team like the Patriots signed him to get Intel.
00:49:10
Um, I also think to something to appoint Steve made last week is there is a chance the league might try to limit transactions because it means less players like being exposed to other people, right? Like going from one locker room to another.
00:49:24
Um, you know, with all the precautions, that's fine.
00:49:27
But like the math is, if you limit the amount of travel in amount of, you know transactions, it means fewer guys going from team to team.
00:49:35
You guys traveling? Blessed chance, probably of Kobe spread, so that could be a possibility as well.
00:49:42
Daniel asked.
00:49:45
Where's the next guy? Well, you fired him.
00:49:48
He's key.
00:49:49
The court is not in session tonight, right? So he is.
00:49:52
He's out and about.
00:49:54
He did break a comment in the ah, in the chat here.
00:49:58
So he is.
00:50:00
He's lurking, but he's not on tonight.
00:50:02
He had some other arrangements.
00:50:03
So 11 punch man, which is an anime show? No narrow down a little bit more, he said.
00:50:11
Is Bill actually a CIF lord? Yes, him and George are Binks are both CIF lords.
00:50:17
Okay on.
00:50:18
So Okay, moving on.
00:50:19
Smash that, like, appreciate you, Josh.
00:50:21
Oh, uh, do you go by Joshua? Joshua? Yeah, I just d m You will figure it out later.
00:50:26
Yeah, he I mean, he's a regular.
00:50:28
I think he'll let it slide.
00:50:29
You know, he's he's good.
00:50:31
So, um, here's an interesting comment from J and other regulars.
00:50:36
I know the Bills are trying to conserve it on cat money, but do you think we upgraded de offensive end ever since Griffin and cut Trent Murphy? This is a really popular sort of question and also, like a lot of people, kind of feel, uh, we should do this.
00:50:50
But you know, the boar I've done these shows, the more I actually see that there's a like there's more of a split opinion on Trent Murphy that you might realize, like there are actually a lot of Trent Murphy supporters out there.
00:51:02
He did.
00:51:03
You know, he did play pretty well down the stretch last year, and I think with the Bills knowing what they have in him, Um, look, Everson Griffin's a great player.
00:51:10
I mean, you know, Murphy's got just the one year left on his contract.
00:51:13
But I would imagine that if they haven't done this already, they're not going to mercy.
00:51:18
Didn't play bad last year.
00:51:20
He just didn't live up to his contract, right? He's got a lofty contract, but he just didn't.
00:51:25
The judges manager? Yeah, he has.
00:51:28
Everybody stand down listening, but driving.
00:51:31
Um, is Arizona hands free state that sense? Maybe he's listening.
00:51:38
I mean, I don't know.
00:51:39
He could be just listening on its on the audio.
00:51:42
I hope he's not watching.
00:51:43
I know, right? Got it set up in this car right there.
00:51:45
Like a GPS watching us.
00:51:47
Um oof.
00:51:50
Do you think from makes the rocks that it's such a good question? I was staring at that earlier.
00:51:54
I want to ask.
00:51:55
I want to ask you this question.
00:51:57
In the context of normal roster construction in a 53 man situation, normal practice squad does from make this roster.
00:52:05
Yes.
00:52:07
Yeah, I think he does.
00:52:08
Right, cause you're preparing for Matt Barkley to leave, right? Because, you know, from is a cheaper option than Barclay at this point.
00:52:16
Um, I think I think he does, but they need came out, and he was all crazy.
00:52:21
Um, And I think that, like, how are you going to gain the respect back from your peers, right? Um, he he lost my respect real quick, right? But how is he gonna gain the respect back from his peers? Are you ever going to want to be in the locker room with him again? Now, I think everybody deserves a second chance, and I'm not trying to preach on anything.
00:52:40
I think everybody deserves a second chance that you have to prove that.
00:52:44
And his second chance can take a lot of work.
00:52:47
Um, I don't think they'll cut him for that reason alone, right? I don't think they will, but at this point, you have to weigh in those options, like, how will it affect the locker room? You know that. That's a big question.
00:53:00
It is.
00:53:01
And I mean, another thing that's working against from is he doesn't have a preseason to showcase.
00:53:06
He doesn't have a preseason to beat out Matt Barkley for the number two job.
00:53:11
If he beats out Mark Matt Barkley for the number two job, it's purely gonna come from what he shows in camp and what the coaches think about him long term if they feel like Hey, look, this is Matt Barkley's last year.
00:53:21
Contract wise, right? You think From's the guy Long term backup lies we probably keep from.
00:53:26
It's not like Matt Barkley is a carbon copy of Josh Allen.
00:53:29
In fact, Matt Barkley's more of, ah, more similar to Jake from the arm strength and skill sets standpoint, So those two are more redundant than either of them are with Josh Allen.
00:53:39
So I think if the Bills feel like from could be the long term backup.
00:53:44
Possibly.
00:53:45
There's also the situation with you know, Josh has that relationship with Matt.
00:53:48
I don't know how much that will weigh into this, but again, mats on the last year of his deal.
00:53:52
So this is an interesting one.
00:53:54
I think again we keep coming back to it.
00:53:56
But if rosters expanded like they're all going to make it right way, have such good depth? Yep.
00:54:02
So, um, Elliot says, I say, especially because the situation we're normally everybody worried about getting picked up would put him to the practice squad.
00:54:10
So that's another possibility, right from if From does not have a chance to show himself in the preseason, Does he? Is he able to slip to the practice? What? I still don't think so, Right? Because I still think he was drafted a few rounds later than he probably should have been.
00:54:25
Yeah, he's gonna get scooped up by a Q B needy team.
00:54:28
I think, Um, good question here from Jason.
00:54:32
Do you think that with all the primetime games, the bills, they will finally get the respect they deserve? All CRC knew Casey on this.
00:54:38
Yes.
00:54:40
100% percent.
00:54:41
I live in Tennessee.
00:54:42
OK, do you know how hard it is to watch a Bills game in Tennessee is almost non existent.
00:54:47
I have to get NFL Sunday ticket and watch the Bills games.
00:54:51
That's that's how I watch it right here.
00:54:53
And And, yeah, you live in the Carolinas, either north or South.
00:54:57
I don't know. One of the others.
00:54:59
Middle.
00:55:00
You live in Middle Carolina, so you get it too, right? Eso it is hard to watch a Bills game, but if they're on prime time right, you're kind of forced to watch him when you're in a small market like Tennessee.
00:55:11
Or let's just say the Nebraska for some random asked for reason like that.
00:55:15
Right.
00:55:16
So you're having to watch whatever game is on those primetime games, right? So people will finally see the bills.
00:55:21
DnB like, Whoa.
00:55:22
Yeah, they're actually pretty legit.
00:55:24
I can't tell you how many times I've got in a fight with somebody at work over the Buffalo Bills.
00:55:28
Does they only watched one game the whole year? Yep.
00:55:32
I mean, this is a good point from m O is different kinds of play.
00:55:35
And to be honest with you, they they did play well in the priests in their primetime games last year.
00:55:42
The defense. They played really well against Pittsburgh.
00:55:44
And people are again going to say, Well, it was because they had dark Hodges at quarterback.
00:55:48
Pittsburgh did.
00:55:49
And the so was like, Anybody's gonna look good, but the suffer get trade.
00:55:52
White had two interceptions in that game.
00:55:54
You're all throat.
00:55:55
And he made the key interception down the sideline late in the game to set us up for the go ahead.
00:55:59
Ah, for the go ahead score.
00:56:02
So yeah, And against the pats on that Christmas, Uh, you know, the Christmas weekend game? They played pretty well too.
00:56:09
And I know the Pats offense wasn't what? You know what it's typically been in the past? The ship of state.
00:56:14
They showed up lacking to made a couple of things.
00:56:16
That key stop on fourth down and against Dallas.
00:56:19
So, I mean, you talk about the three primetime games they had last year.
00:56:22
They showed up for those.
00:56:24
Yeah, but competition is going to be ratcheted up, though this year right there, playing the Niners.
00:56:28
The Chiefs.
00:56:29
So, like, they're they're going to have to elevate their game a swell to keep that up, but yeah, they will.
00:56:37
They will get the respect, I think, with the fact that they have double the amount of primetime games this year.
00:56:42
Um, Elliot, are we still under the radar? I say no.
00:56:46
I think too many.
00:56:47
I think a lot of people are kind of like it's weird, right? Cause there's still a lot of Josh Allen hate out there.
00:56:52
But a lot of people are like hyping up the bills.
00:56:54
The Sierras like as like, a real sleeper, dark horse team.
00:56:58
So, um, I don't think we're under the radar.
00:57:01
Honestly, I don't I think for the average fan, yes.
00:57:05
Were under the radar.
00:57:06
I think for the average fan who just watches NFL every now and then they're like, Who are the bills, Right.
00:57:11
I think we're still in aerator for that.
00:57:12
I think, media, I think the media is starting to catch on that.
00:57:16
You know, Bill's mafi ain't nothing to mess with, right? Um, but yeah.
00:57:21
Yeah, I think you start there in the middle ground.
00:57:23
Yeah.
00:57:24
Okay.
00:57:25
Catch good. You know what I was saying before? Think the DEA's on the map.
00:57:27
Now, after last year against Alysia, that was Ah, you know, that was the most watched game I believe all year from a ratings from a viewer standpoint.
00:57:34
Is Thanksgiving game.
00:57:35
Right? So, um so yet, uh, all right, Yeah.
00:57:41
We were talking about backup quarterbacks naked.
00:57:44
Someone asked about it so and thanks.
00:57:46
Grub quarterbacks.
00:57:48
That's kind of messed up.
00:57:49
They made to the league.
00:57:50
Nick, Have you ever made the league? Oh, come on.
00:57:52
Think I'm kidding.
00:57:54
I'm kidding.
00:57:55
Please don't look at my i p address and give me swatted.
00:57:58
Um, general media would say we're a wildcard round one playoff team.
00:58:02
Yeah, probably.
00:58:03
And that's what I'm saying.
00:58:04
We're kind of still under the radar because of that? Um, yeah, agreed.
00:58:09
Right.
00:58:10
We can look at the NFL 100 write themselves.
00:58:12
Josh Allen made that.
00:58:13
So the players, the team's recognized the bills.
00:58:15
And what we're doing this for is the media and the public like the average fan and the ESPN, The NFL Network, like, I think they're still kind of, you know, still, right there underneath us.
00:58:25
There's a couple of people in the media who are like a Buffalo Bills aren't onto.
00:58:28
He slept on this year, but, um, were under the radar because of them.
00:58:33
Yeah, this is an interesting comment from MLS.
00:58:35
Under the radar is an underrated yes. Or at least I hope so.
00:58:38
I think I don't think it's as in underrated.
00:58:41
I think it's just this people are not taking the fact that we have a really good roster and a good team.
00:58:45
And we're on the ascent, Um, outside of bills, mafia And like, you know, Bill's kind of media like you said Casey to the average fan, that may be true.
00:58:56
Um, so yeah, I mean, I think, uh, you know, I think that this makes sense.
00:59:01
I mean, the bills are like the little brother start being sold from.
00:59:04
There's a I will tell you this my my youngest brother and my up my middle brother was on the show earlier, and he made a comment.
00:59:11
But my youngest brother, he was like, always getting **** on by me and my middle brother.
00:59:17
I'm the younger Yes.
00:59:18
And And guess what? It turned out he and about being the best athlete of the three Mus****.
00:59:23
Tallest. He's the best golfer.
00:59:25
That's just looking.
00:59:26
Probably the best looking.
00:59:27
I don't know, but it happens.
00:59:30
It happens, and you just kind of deal.
00:59:32
Oh, my God. Steve.
00:59:34
Oh, my gosh.
00:59:35
Hey, at least you know least he got that money.
00:59:37
Not where is not a typical the typical comment that we always show.
00:59:42
Where's Rico? Ah, yes, we know.
00:59:45
We know Rico is the man people love.
00:59:47
Rico will never be Rico.
00:59:49
But we're trying.
00:59:50
We're trying.
00:59:51
We're trying our best.
00:59:53
Uh, so we're right at 10 o'clock, this has been really pretty solid.
00:59:57
Um, a number of topics here.
01:00:00
Does anyone in the comments section one of throw any last minute super chats in before we wrap the show tonight? um I'm gonna give Casey another chance to talk about his show really quick.
01:00:10
Right before we end, I want to give people Ah, a couple minutes here to just throw in an extra super super chap before we before we sign off.
01:00:18
So Casey want you? I want to give viewers another summary of what you're doing once again at read em and weep.
01:00:25
You can see it right down there at the bottom.
01:00:26
It's its rights.
01:00:28
Yes, Backwards.
01:00:31
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Yeah.
01:02:47
I mean, look, this is the year where I mean, think about what? Think about last year, right? There was the There was like the people in day Balls corner and the people in Josh Allen's corner.
01:02:57
It wasn't a whole lot of like in between where you know, you got like, Oh, is that kind of both of their fall sorts? It's neither of their faults, right? So to me this year, like tables got the tools.
01:03:08
Yep, with his, with his offense at his disposal.
01:03:11
And Josh Allen has to execute.
01:03:14
It's gonna be you out.
01:03:15
Yes, and we've talked about table needs to improve them.
01:03:19
Devils never had never coordinated the top 20 offense.
01:03:22
Scoring lies in in his entire tenure as being an offense.
01:03:25
1/4 coordinator throughout his career in the NFL, he's never coordinated a top 20 offense.
01:03:31
Is he gonna be able to do that this year? We're talking about what the Bills need to get somewhere between 22 23 points a game to get him in the top 15.
01:03:38
Is he going to be able to get this team over the home 19.
01:03:41
6, then cut it.
01:03:42
Last year, we didn't mean that 20 to 23.
01:03:44
So if the Bills I agree with the M three year, if they can get those points for games up and Able and Alan are on the same page in both of them, improve in the respective responsibilities that Yes, they could play with anyone this year.
01:03:58
So preach on that.
01:04:00
Um so well said, says Elliott.
01:04:04
Agree.
01:04:05
Um, Word war coder 01 said.
01:04:10
So it's not about buff people talking about my podcasts, and it's not because I am fat.
01:04:16
I do not work out at all.
01:04:19
No, it's not about Buff City.
01:04:21
The reason I'm from Tennessee, right? So I've got I'm in between Memphis and Nashville.
01:04:25
Memphis is Bluff City.
01:04:28
That's the nickname from Memphis eso.
01:04:30
I wanted to combine something of where I am and who I represent, Um, which is Buffalo.
01:04:35
So I just moved into Buff City.
01:04:37
So yeah, and we'll just wrap the show with this comment from Daniel.
01:04:41
It's a perfect way to end it.
01:04:43
Please, God, just give us a football season. 2020.
01:04:45
Couldn't agree more.
01:04:47
Let's have it.
01:04:48
Um, really appreciate everyone's comments tonight.
01:04:50
We have a ton of comments, Really good conversation tonight.
01:04:55
As always, we appreciate the super chats.
01:04:57
We'll be back Monday.
01:04:58
Steve will be back Monday.
01:05:00
I'll be back on the right.
01:05:01
Don't worry.
01:05:02
Eso things will be kind of back to normalcy then.
01:05:06
But Casey, thank you so much for joining me tonight.
01:05:08
It's been a lot of fun, Stephen.
01:05:11
I end end every show with ago bills.
01:05:13
So I'm gonna let you go out first with your go bills and all.
01:05:18
And the show with the go bills.
01:05:20
It was so fun to get the band back together.
01:05:23
Next time we need to have Steve like he needs to show up and stop watching Netflix.
01:05:26
But go bills go bills.
01:05:29
Goodnight, everyone.
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to another episode of the Bills guys presented by Buffalo fanatics.
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Um, little different tonight.
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We've got a slightly different ah crew bringing you the show tonight.
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It's me till money, As always, hope hosting here tonight.
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We've got ah, Buffalo fanatics.
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Contributor Casey read.
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Joining me is co host tonight.
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You could find him on Twitter at Read.
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Um, and we could see it right there on the screen.
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I want to give a quick shoutout to our, um, regulars that Aaron already we've got Cory Buffaloes in the house.
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We've got Davion prices in the house.
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Cameron Taylor's here.
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Eric sandals here.
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So really appreciate you guys.
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Josh Barrett already giving me crap that were late because we were a minutely through.
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I had to go that you can blame Casey.
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He had to go to the whiz palace, as they say on parks and rec.
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Chris Yankees in the house.
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And we're going to get to Chris's comment from last week later in the show.
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We promised them that So we will do that.
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Remember, super chatters get priority tonight as they do every night.
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So feel free to super chat and let us know what you're thinking tonight.
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Tonight show is going to be a little bit different marks in the house. Thank you, Mark.
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But before we start on tonight's topics, I'm gonna give Casey a chance to introduce himself.
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He's the host of the Buff City podcast on the Buffalo Fanatics network.
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And so, Casey, why don't you give the viewers Ah, little intro of yourself and your show? Yeah, I know, Chris.
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I'm on the left. It's weird tonight.
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Yeah, we try to push them to the right, But it didn't work out.
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I don't know what's going on.
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We fired.
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We fired Judge Mathis court is not in session tonight.
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Yeah, he was fired on him.
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He is done.
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It's now the tilt money and read them and weep.
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Show.
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Um, from here on out? Uh, no, I'm kidding.
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We didn't fire Judge.
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Don't don't start that rumor.
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Um, but I did tell him that I would I would tell everybody that we fired him.
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Uh, Davian already getting super chat in there.
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Thank you, man.
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That's that's amazing.
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Love it. Yeah.
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No, we didn't fire, judge, but he is not here tonight.
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He's got some obligations he's had to take care of these very responsible guy.
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So, uh, told me.
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He just want to binge watch the witcher on inland.
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That's what he told me.
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I know if it was a lie or feels the truth, you never consent with him.
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Um, but me, I feel like it's a re union here, um, getting back together with you.
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We haven't had one on one, you know, read em and weep till money time.
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And in a long time, it feels like, what, six months? I think it was the last time.
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Last time it was just me and you.
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So it's also get the band back together.
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Um, I miss I miss judges Well, getting on here and talking to him.
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But that's okay.
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He's not my favorite anyway.
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So, um, he'll be back on next next week.
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Next time, next Monday, Monday We'll be back on Monday, which is next week.
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Um, but no, I I host the Buff City podcast on the Fanatics Network Podcast network.
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And we talk all things fancy football and gambling.
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So if you like fantasy football, right, come on down.
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If you like winning a lot of money free money come on down as well, because that's basically what we do.
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So, yeah.
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I mean, you guys need to check out Casey show, cause to be honest with you, um, right now is the time to kind of start thinking about those things, right? Fantasies on the horizon.
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Ah, lot of this situations With players opting out and things like that we're gonna talk about tonight.
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You're gonna have implications on fantasy this year.
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A swell as the gambling side of things.
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So Case is gonna have all of that cover view on a show.
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And, um, I'll probably hop on a show to a few times, you know, before the season starts, so we'll really get it going.
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Yeah.
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Chris, you're right.
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Judge isn't hiding after the job.
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Borough take, uh, he's still He's still getting crap for that.
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Um, yeah.
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We do need a show with him in his classroom to see how he treats his kids.
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Tell me when we were in for the wind.
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Thanks.
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Amy's in the house.
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Amy's irregular. So thank you, Amy.
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So tonight, um, is going to be a little bit, uh, we're gonna try to make it positive.
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Right, But we're gonna talk about.
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You know, in the last few days and last week, there's been a lot of movement on the cove it front and the implications on that front four of the NFL on.
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And we're gonna talk about a couple different topics we're going to talk about specifically in relation to the bills and how they've been directly affected.
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We're going to talk about, um, the league at whole on the whole and sort of what that means for the bills in their chances of winning division this year will get into the Patriots and that, and we're also going to talk about some scenarios that maybe, um, we hadn't really talked about a lot before because, you know, Stephen, I typically, um You know, we talk about at the onset of the show a lot of time, sort of the the up and coming Or like, the recent events around Kobe.
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But tonight, we're really gonna have to take into consideration some scenarios.
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I think that could happen, like with season shortened season.
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How's it gonna is that a possibility? Are we gonna potentially see more guys opt out? We probably will.
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The deadline for that is going to be upcoming in the next week.
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Ah, part of the agreement that we've seen from the NFL P A to Thea to the league.
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So what we're gonna do is we're gonna start with the bills and get a quick recap on what the situation is with them right now.
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So right now, as we know today, Star Little Ailey has opted out for the 2020 season.
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He's the only builds player.
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As of now, that has opted out.
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And there are five additional players on the bills that are on the Cove aid, you know, injury list or coverted.
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You know, non football related injury list, whatever.
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Whatever you wanna call it.
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And those players are, um, Dane Jackson announced today.
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Ceron Neil Vincent Taylor.
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Um, we've got Duke William's a fan favorite of the Bills Mafia and rookie undrafted defensive back Isaiah Brown.
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So we have had five guys on that list as of today, and we'd have to expect there's maybe more to come and maybe more to come on the opt out from so Casey.
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The first thing I want to ask you on tonight's show, and I want people to comment on this as well.
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We'll bring those up as well.
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What do you expect to happen from here until, let's say the beginning of the regular season when it comes to the bill, specifically in regards to opting out, Do you expecting a lot more flurry of opt outs from the Bills are expecting a lot more of a flurry of guys to make it onto this covert list.
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And what does that mean for the Bills heading into Week one? So I'm going to start with you, Casey, and see what you think about that.
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And then I'm gonna bring up some comments, as as we, uh, as we get some takes here.
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Yeah.
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So first off, I don't think a lot of Bills players will opt out this year.
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I feel like a lot of them think that they just This is kind of the year, so there's there's they're keeping that in their mind.
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And then, of course, you have a couple of players who I'm gonna do this for my family.
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I'm gonna opt out for this, but I don't see a lot of Bills players opting out a Sephora's.
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The Cove it list goes I feel like that's gonna fluctuate all throughout the season.
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You're going to see people go into your received coming off of it.
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Um, even if now, in my understand the covert list, it is that if you've been in contact with somebody, you can be put on it, Is that correct? So it doesn't necessarily mean that Hey, this person as cove it it just means, hey, let's quarantine you for two weeks and test you and see what what's gonna happen on that? So that's gonna fluctuate all throughout the season just to get some I goes onto the covet list does not mean hey, Oh, my goodness, They're not gonna play right right now.
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We don't have a lot of people on that list who is going to impact us a lot? Um, Neil would be the only person that I see that I would be like, Man, I really, really wish that hadn't happened.
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But I'm also the season doesn't start in two weeks.
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So, um, it just it just kind of depends.
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Doesn't he'll have you know, Kobe, Does he not have code? I think he got a hey had a negative and the access it again.
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It was a positive.
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It could be a, um you know, fell positive.
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There it is that they're, um is it false? Positive? Yes.
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So that's what that's what I was thinking as well.
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So I don't know that covert list is gonna fluctuate.
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We're gonna see a lot of people go on that list and then come off that list all throughout the season.
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No, I I agree with you.
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I So I think obviously the opt out the opt out list is a bit more.
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I mean, it is more permanent, right? So what that means for the people who don't know people.
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Players are given the opportunity to opt out for the 2020 season, and they will receive a salary advance of $150,000 for 2020 and defer the rest of their contract years.
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Pay whatever to 2021 beyond.
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So, in star situation, he's essentially pushing his contract out on another two years to 2021 2022.
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And he'll simply collect that $150,000 advance this year, which will come out of his salary next year.
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So, as players, you know, it's interesting truth.
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The hearts that made it truth.
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The hearts made a very interesting common here, right are guys that believe they may not make teams believe that they may get cut.
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Will they opt out to get themselves a salary advance? Ah, you know, to give themselves maybe another chance to make a team next year where there's maybe a preseason right where they have a better chance toe to show that they can make the team, Um, in those types of situations.
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So I think this is a really interesting point, right, because guys that are are fringe roster guys may take the more cautious approach and opt out, knowing that they don't have that preseason to kind of show off their skills, maybe even the team there on but to other teams that may want to pick them up.
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So I agree with you there.
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The covert list itself is likely to fluctuate.
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So, hoping that our guys, you know, you know, we don't see any huge big names come up on that list in in at the wrong time.
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So that's the other thing I kind of wanted to talk about here.
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Like the timing of the cove it lists that we mentioned is going to fluctuate, right? These guys, um, if this is happening throughout the season, you know you're gonna potentially see guys that, you know, they could be fine going up until, like, a big game with, like, let's say, God forbid Josh Allen tests positive for Kobe did.
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And he misses a Thursday night game against the Chiefs, right? And then he's back in a couple weeks.
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This could really, really in, you know, institute a lot more sort of randomness or fluctuation and team records throughout the year.
00:10:46
So I want to ask you that from, like, the betting angle, right? What does this mean? Do you think, um, before the season starts from betting on things like futures for the divisions and player props, like, have you thought much about that? And what do you think? What do you think this is going to mean for things like gambling side? Right now, if you haven't already placed a bit for future, such as, uh, NFL MVP Josh Allen, it's plus 3000.
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Go ahead until about $10 on that.
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But if you haven't, if you haven't started doing future bets like that.
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You should try do it now because that wheel that will either hurt her help.
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You know, that's such a ***ue you know, answer.
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But I mean, let's be real if, say, Aaron Rodgers is going for the M V P and then all of a sudden he gets put on covert list for two weeks.
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Way we stop.
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Start to forget about him in the MPP chatter, and it's gonna help somebody like Josh Allen if you put a bet on him so it could either hurt or help you.
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Um, but as force fantasy, if you're not playing fancy, weak the weak and not putting in your lineups and not looking at things from week to week perspective, you're really messing up.
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Um, I probably keep I drop a lot of people like defense.
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I'm always dropping defense.
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I'm picking up a defense that is se playing the worst offense and leak like I'm picking up that defense quickly.
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I'm not keeping one defense throughout the whole year, so that's that's how I play it.
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And it normally turns out pretty well for me on, and that's only going to you're really gonna have to study this year.
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As stupid as that sounds that you're gonna have to study for fantasy football. But you are.
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But you're gonna need to know who's on the covert.
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Listen, who's not? Because if you're starting Julio Jones and he's on the covert list for two weeks and you're starting him, you're probably gonna lose right? So you definitely need to be starting our study.
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He's quite sugar popping up, and I'm like, What is going on now? I'm just bringing up comments as you're talking, because I think there's some people that have some good comments.
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We don't you know, Um, now one thing.
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One thing we mentioned was is, Do you think a lot of players on the bubble are going to opt out? And that's it.
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I mean, possibly right.
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But you also have to think that these you know, these players, especially on the bubble, right? They're not thinking Oh, my gosh, I've made it right so they're not comfortable, right? Or And if they are comfortable and that's probably 1% they're not gonna make the roster eat.
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It's right.
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In my opinion, you have to you have to be a dog, right? You have to want something right? So if you're on the fringe and you're like, Hey, I want an easy way out, I'm just gonna opt out just for the selfish reason off.
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I get the money now and then it will push it to the next year.
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I don't see a lot of players on the bubble doing that, but I see a lot of veterans on the bubble doing that right, so I don't see young guys doing that. Prevented veterans.
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Might right, get the money while you can and then push off for the next year.
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But as far as like younger guys, I don't see younger guys doing that because I think they see it in their mind cause I'm young, dude.
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So in my mind, I'm thinking right, that opens up opportunities.
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So if you see somebody who opts out and regardless for what there were reason is, it might be a I do want to protect my family, and that's that's awesome reason.
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That's no one's ever going to fault you for that.
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But as a young guy, whether you like that guy or not, you respect him or not.
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You look at that, you see Dang, here's my opportunity.
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Let's go and get that right.
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Instead of saying, Hey, let's opt out just to get this money right? So that's that's my take on all that.
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Yeah, And this is a good comment from Daniel here.
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Thanks for the comment, Daniel.
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Another regular of ours players with a lot of guaranteed money may act on fear of us of, Ah ah, season being cut short, right, and potentially being canceled and they don't opt out, they potentially lose that guaranteed money.
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So that could be a situation to watch.
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I would imagine, um, that this is something that they had to have addressed during the ah, the sort of recent agreement between the NFL, P A and the league.
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But, ah, this is not anything that I think should be a surprise if the league if the if the league says if you don't opt out in the season, get shorter and and you're not guaranteed that full money, that could be a reason why people would would, ah, you know, would opt out.
00:14:54
So I guess from that standpoint, let's transition to talking about how this affects the bills on a macro level meaning from the rest of the league standpoint, we've had about 25 to 30 guys already opt out for 2020 and and another handful of guys already on the covert list.
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We've even had some free agents opt out like a A guy like Larry War Furred who maybe Bills fans know because we've talked about potentially signing him as a free agent addition.
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He's already opted out for the 2020 season as a free agent, so he's not gonna play.
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Um, what does this mean for the Bills on a macro level, like from the division? And then for just for the rest of leagues? We've seen some key guys on the Patriots.
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Yeah, I think, Ah, five guys on the Patriots, including some key guys, namely Donta Hightower, have opted out for 2020.
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So, in that sense, do we feel like that? There's maybe depending on who opts out here, and we won't know the full list for another couple days.
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Is this an advantage for the Bills? And I would have to say it is based on that.
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Now do we are reading too much into this.
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Are we making too much of these guys opting out? Is it going to affect it? Isn't it affect the ah, the division that much? I mean, the odds have already changed.
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Write the bills have now once again leapfrog the Pats from a nod standpoint, to win the division as having the best odds once this happened.
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So where do you make of that? Of course.
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We're reading too much into it.
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Of course we are.
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I mean, it's the off season.
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We've had nothing to talk about for six months.
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So yes, we're gonna We're gonna read too much into it.
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We're going to sit there and just start playing mind games.
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We have no idea.
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The biggest thing about this is is that as long as the Patriots or Khost, Bill Belichick, I see them as a threat because I respect Bill Bell.
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Check it. Doesn't matter who he is.
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Is the next guy up? Right.
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Um, he had a small town, a small time corner, right? Came from Mississippi.
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Won him a Super Bowl, right? It was an undrafted free agent.
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So it is from a bill standpoint, awesome to kind of see their defense say, I'm not gonna play right to be like.
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That's what I'm talking about.
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Yep, We're definitely gonna get this going, but at the same time, it's next Man up and Bill Bill check embodies that.
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Same next man up.
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So I think it's I think Buffalo will win the division 100%.
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I think that I'm a fan.
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If you don't think that right then, are you really a fan? But in the back of my mind, I'm thinking right, well, until we prove that we can win it them, we can't.
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So, um, that's just my my thoughts on that.
00:17:35
So Elliot has a good question here on the topic of roster depth, I guess, with people opting out.
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So, Elliot, thanks for the comment.
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Question your another regular Mars.
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Does the NFL suffer from not having their own official minor league to pull from other leagues? Do I know we have the insane CFL? But is that enough? Well, in the context of, you know, let's say, players opting out and people going on the cove it list, You know, the NFL has the ability here to step in and allow larger roster sizes.
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I don't personally believe that the NFL suffers from this depending on how they allow the makeup of the roster, right? Do they allow an expanded practice squad that they allow expanded, active and roster? Right, So, you know, that's something they can do to account for guys coming in and out from the COVITZ situation.
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I don't necessarily think they suffer from it prior to the season because you go into camp with 90 guys, right? And you only, you know, in a typical season you have 90 guys going into camp.
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You come out the other end with 53.
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So do you really suffer that much from not having an additional sort of minor league? On top of that, I think we're what suffers is that the players that get cut and then don't end up on practice squads are just kind of sitting out there, and they have nowhere to play necessarily.
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And I think the XFL and things like that tried to solve for that.
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So in, Ah, in a season here where you may see expanded roster sizes and you have that potential, I don't think it hurts the league right now.
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I think where it hurts him is like once the season starts if they don't expand the roster.
00:19:07
So good question.
00:19:08
Casey thought something on in this aspect of the covitz situation.
00:19:13
No, I don't think the NFL is suffering, because if you look around you look at all the other minor leagues that are going on now. They're canceled.
00:19:19
They are not blame.
00:19:20
Right? Um, I think hockey their their minor league affiliate just said they are going to try to start the season in November or December.
00:19:28
Right.
00:19:29
So in this aspect of it, no, I don't think they're suffering.
00:19:31
But in the bigger aspect, Yes, Absolutely. We need.
00:19:34
Like, I thought XFL was going to be that, um And it should have been that cove.
00:19:38
It gotten away.
00:19:39
Um uh, Till if you don't mind.
00:19:43
Bryan Adams has an awesome question.
00:19:45
You haven't find it? Bryan Adams, Um, the hit singer for the summer, um, summer song, Summer of 69.
00:19:56
As an awesome question he asked, Is that proven it, though? If the patriots on at full potential.
00:20:02
And here is my answer to that, right? Who cares? Okay.
00:20:05
And and I'm not trying t come at Brian.
00:20:08
I'm sure he's a swell guy, but everybody's gonna be saying that, and it's really annoying, right? Oh, it's a shortened season.
00:20:13
What? The Bills win the Super Bowl, right? Oh, well, that didn't count.
00:20:15
It's just 2020 right? No, it did count.
00:20:18
These guys are still playing games, right? These guys, they're still doing it.
00:20:21
I can't.
00:20:22
We can't help it, right? It's not like, you know, something else happened. The Bills.
00:20:28
If they beat the Patriots right, then they beat the Patriots.
00:20:31
It just is what it is.
00:20:32
It's not our fault.
00:20:33
That's called Hey, want to be a better coach and coach of your players, right? They should have been at full potential, right? Bill Bell check has full control over that whole roster.
00:20:41
He's the GM.
00:20:42
He's the coach, right? If he doesn't get somebody in there filled offshoot shoes and making it the full potential that's on, you know, right, that has nothing do with the Bills.
00:20:50
But all the bills could do is come in there and beat up, right? Take care of business, handle your business and just still, it's just to steal a phrase from Bill Belgique himself.
00:21:00
Do your job, right? That's all the bills can do is do your job and they beat them.
00:21:04
They beat him, right? It just is what? It is it Who cares, right? So I don't know of a lot of you have been saying that.
00:21:10
What if the bills win the Super Bowl and then people start talking about Oh, well, it's the tweet Tweet season is account.
00:21:15
No, you don't get an ass trick, but you just don't.
00:21:17
Our guys show up, they're gonna do their thing.
00:21:20
So on that one anymore, you go in.
00:21:23
I was saying, This is the other side of that argument that you're making right? That Elliott points out here is says, I would look at whoever wins this year's coming, you know, coming over more adversity than normal in kudos, whoever that is because, like your this is, there's other things that you have to to get through this year, other than just facing a team who may be a few men down, right? You have to worry about your own team, potentially being a few men down.
00:21:44
You have to, you know, no preseason like there's no like, is it is a tough situation for every team right now, and so, like you said like the covert list is going to be fluctuating all throughout the year.
00:21:58
We're gonna have guys that go in and off that other teams are guys that go in and off that it's going to be very difficult to manage the roster on a week to week basis.
00:22:05
Assuming we still have a full season, we'll get to that a little bit later.
00:22:08
But I think this is a good point.
00:22:10
And I think Steve made this point as well a couple shows ago.
00:22:13
Is that like I mean, you could You could look at it the other way and say that whoever wins this year actually maybe deserves more credit, then they would have otherwise.
00:22:24
So, um, you know, I think that's a good point from Eliot right there.
00:22:28
I think that Chris makes the common here deadline for opting out.
00:22:32
Is this coming Monday? So it's not like guys gonna come out, opt out right before the season starts.
00:22:35
I don't know if it was officially Monday over. It was August 5th.
00:22:38
I think there was some back and forth and maybe the third.
00:22:40
Now I don't know if that's official, but either way it sounds like the opt out date is next week is going to be next week, So that's a good point.
00:22:47
Um, not right.
00:22:48
Like, not like this is gonna happen right before the seasons with guys.
00:22:51
We're gonna have to make that call pretty soon.
00:22:54
Just getting back quickly to that upto the point that Eliot made and Chris expanding on that, winning a super rule that this year is actually a great accomplishment with Kobe throwing a wrench in everyone's team plans.
00:23:03
That's exactly right, and that's the other side of it.
00:23:05
So, like you said Casey, who cares, Right? You when you win, no one's gonna take that Lombardi away from you.
00:23:11
If you win my trip from every hair, right? Just handle your business.
00:23:15
Who cares? Yep, Exactly so, uh, truth Toe hearts.
00:23:21
He's are like he's our resident, kind of like bringing us back to reality guy like he likes.
00:23:26
He likes that he likes to kind of like, uh, throat with you.
00:23:29
No doubt start flames a little bit, but if he goes, he was.
00:23:32
If we win, it doesn't count with top teams when they will be phrase.
00:23:35
So it's the classic double standard.
00:23:37
We see all the time in the media.
00:23:39
Write the bills.
00:23:40
If the Bills win, it's because the other team lost its never because the Bills actually did something good.
00:23:44
So it'll be just thought that on a more you know, on a grander scale.
00:23:48
And you know what? That's who cares? I can't They can't take it away from us. They just can't.
00:23:53
Yep, Daniel, The Houston Astros, you know, stupid little championship away.
00:23:58
They can't take that away, right, Daniel? Same comment.
00:24:01
And Daniel's another one.
00:24:02
Who? Ah, he's not afraid to go against the grain with us on this show, and we like that.
00:24:07
So he's saying here, every team starting from the same place, all the only other person that did exactly right. Exactly.
00:24:13
Right, um So look, um, it is it is that situation right? And I think that's where we can now transition into talking about, um, you know that the even more macro possibility here and Tom's kind of made the point that will lead us into our next topic here.
00:24:33
They will not play football this season.
00:24:35
So with all of this stuff going on, covert lists, players opting out the situation at hand, seems to be that we're plowing through right now and things are gonna happen.
00:24:48
Training camps have not been delayed.
00:24:50
At this point in time we're talking about, we're going to be in August on Saturday and once we hit August.
00:24:56
That's it, man. That's the homestretch.
00:24:58
Until the season starts.
00:24:59
Like for me.
00:25:00
Once you once August rolls around, that's when I, like, really start feeling it right.
00:25:04
I start doing my mock trail NC start watching training camp by hard knocks starts coming around Garnett, you're in my wife.
00:25:13
Yeah, you really start getting that feel like we're so close.
00:25:17
So Tom says they will not play football this season.
00:25:22
What are some scenarios that you think could Or maybe we are reading too much into again? Maybe we won't play football.
00:25:30
What are some scenarios in your mind that you feel could potentially alter this season, if any? You may not think that, but do you have any? I feel like I've drink a whole pot of coffee before I came on the show, and I haven't real quick. Sean.
00:25:45
The judge does look different because we fired him. Moving on.
00:25:48
Um, Tom, man, I really think that we're gonna play football this season.
00:25:52
He's worked.
00:25:54
Okay, let's put put.
00:25:55
Put yourself in the mindset of ah, billionaire owner, right? How much money are you gonna lose if you don't play football this season, right? They don't care about the players, right? There it is.
00:26:07
Elliott, get out of my I'm getting my mind, man.
00:26:10
Right with the salt Bank.
00:26:11
He's going, He's going real quick.
00:26:13
But that's so true, right? They don't care about players.
00:26:15
They don't care about the health.
00:26:16
They care about the money that they're gonna make off TV deals.
00:26:18
They care about the money that they're gonna make off their players playing right? So 100% we're having a season this year right now, whether or not it will be, um, long or if it will be sure, right.
00:26:29
That's the thing that I don't know yet in back my head.
00:26:31
I'm thinking, Yeah, it's gonna be the same because NFL don't care.
00:26:34
Right there is gonna play, But I can also see it being shortened to like, 12 games.
00:26:39
It's a full 16.
00:26:40
I could see that.
00:26:41
Right.
00:26:42
Um, too much money around.
00:26:43
You're right too much.
00:26:44
There's there's too much money that owners would lose if they didn't play football.
00:26:49
Right? So us, his fans, That's awesome.
00:26:52
It does kind of suck in the aspect of these owners just not caring about their players. Right? Answer.
00:26:57
There's some good owners out there, but you can like a guy, but you can like a $1,000,000,000 more, right? So I don't know.
00:27:04
Yeah, we're definitely playing football this year.
00:27:06
1%. In fact, I'm a gambling man.
00:27:08
I don't know if you all could tell, but I would bet my whole paycheck from fanatics that we're having a season this year.
00:27:15
Chris withy Awesome Ghostbusters reference for I'm pretty sure I'm, like, 100% that this is a Ghostbusters quotas.
00:27:23
Yeah, I love that.
00:27:25
Um, we've probably got some maybe some younger viewers on here, maybe haven't seen Ghostbusters.
00:27:30
Go check it out.
00:27:31
The original go special way.
00:27:33
We have to lay that line.
00:27:35
The original Ghostbusters with Dan Ackroyd and Bill Murray.
00:27:38
Um, so and Sigourney Weaver, you got to check it out if you haven't seen it.
00:27:42
I mean, you're not gonna, but you're not gonna be blown away by the ah c g i in that one, but, uh, it is a good It is a good one.
00:27:49
The judges better your younger brother.
00:27:53
Okay.
00:27:54
See your Steve? I don't know.
00:27:57
Steve's turning 30 this year.
00:27:59
I really am.
00:28:01
So you are.
00:28:02
But I am better looking.
00:28:04
Kept a copy, my mullet at one point.
00:28:06
What was up with that? And then he wouldn't gotta fade like Is he trying to be me? I don't know.
00:28:12
We got ah Fry until in in the house.
00:28:15
This my brother, by the way, for Final Four plus Masters post Super Bowl. Gonna be sick in April.
00:28:20
So he's saying, Hey, maybe, just maybe the season gets delayed and we end up having football into the spring.
00:28:26
Could this happen? Could this be a possibility that the NFL delays the season at all? I think at this point, they probably don't just because it is already schedules.
00:28:37
Been out.
00:28:38
They've got the Monday night skit like it just seems like they're too far into it to change it at this point.
00:28:45
So, uh, I hate to disagree with my brother here, but I think he's kind of half joking.
00:28:50
So, um, you're wrong, Ryan.
00:28:53
Good.
00:28:54
Out of here s Oh, yeah.
00:28:56
Ah, TV Money's where they make their money, fans in the stands. Just extra cash.
00:29:00
Agree here, Jason.
00:29:01
Under your And I believe from what we've seen in Atlanta, has already come out with their protocols like teams.
00:29:09
Uh, the individual, like sort of location jurisdictions are gonna have a say on what they do with fans in the stands.
00:29:16
I believe the Falcons came out and said they weren't gonna have more than 20,000 in the Mercedes been stadium.
00:29:22
So I think that's going to be up to the individual states and local sort of jurisdictions to decide for from fans standpoint, to be honest with you, this is, at this point totally on, right.
00:29:33
Like the TV money's where they're going to get it.
00:29:35
Yeah, the fans in the stands.
00:29:36
It's extra for them.
00:29:38
And I agree.
00:29:39
Um, you know, they're still going to sell merchandise through NFL feeling, but I mean, so it's all going to be there.
00:29:46
Um, so Chris of the common here, I think teams off the Scout Street free agents.
00:29:52
Other teams practice cause a waiver are extending point.
00:29:54
This season, you may have to replace 10 players.
00:29:56
This is true, right? If you end up with the team that who like, who's to say that you won't have a, you know, have, ah, cluster right of, like, 2025 guys from the same team that all test, right? Then what are you going to do? They're gonna have to have some kind of, ah, way to handle that.
00:30:14
And that's why I do think that they're going to do something with the roster.
00:30:16
Sizes either Expand practice squad, expand active gameday roster, whatever it takes.
00:30:22
Um, so, yeah, back to this, uh, Ryan's comment going to take months off in the winter, delaying started playoffs like College Bowl season pushing games to every other week, the playoffs.
00:30:32
Oh, well, actually, that could be a possibility where you play out the regular season and the Maybe you have a little bit more space between playoff games in the Super Bowl.
00:30:40
Kind of like they do in college with the championship game, although that's kind of annoying toe weight for that.
00:30:45
But hey, it's a possibility.
00:30:47
I would imagine if they're gonna play the regular season.
00:30:49
Normally they wouldn't do that, But we'll see about that.
00:30:53
Um, so you're so you.
00:30:55
You are of the stance that there's not gonna be any change.
00:30:58
The schedule we're gonna plow through football is going to go on as scheduled.
00:31:03
Our youth.
00:31:04
Are you confident there will be a 16 game season? No.
00:31:07
No, I'm not confident.
00:31:09
I would say about, like, 87% sure that they were gonna have a 16 game schedule.
00:31:14
Um, but if I do see it, I do see them shorten it.
00:31:18
Um, just like Yep.
00:31:21
JW said, um, I see them Jordan in a little bit, but probably about 12 games and then start in the playoffs.
00:31:27
I see it happening like that, but, like said, I'm 87% sure we're gonna have a full season on our hands.
00:31:35
That's, you know, that's enough for me to bet on.
00:31:37
Like I'm enough to pull the trigger on that one.
00:31:40
Okay.
00:31:41
And that So that means that look real quick.
00:31:44
We're looking fresh.
00:31:45
And that pro property dude like your barber, he got you going Good dude as a good cut right there.
00:31:50
Congrats on that one.
00:31:52
That is that it? That does look nice.
00:31:54
I wish I could do that, but I can't.
00:31:56
So I want to before we get to Q and A in a few minutes.
00:32:01
I want to I want you to kind of talk to me about and, you know, bring the viewers inside your head a bit on what you're thinking.
00:32:10
Gambling lies here.
00:32:12
Given the situations we've talked about today, the uncer*****y around Kobe, it lists the uncer*****y around who's gonna opt out.
00:32:18
Although we will have clarity on that before the season starts.
00:32:21
What, if anything, are you going to change about your approach going into this year from a gambling sampling? Or are you not going to change your approach? It all I think I'm really gonna change that much.
00:32:33
I'm still going to take it as, uh, who were they playing in my bed? Not because of that aspect of it.
00:32:40
Um, am I taking the over or am I taking the, um and you gotta go off screen, do that? That is too fresh.
00:32:48
Um, no, but by taking am I taking the point spread? It just depends.
00:32:52
Like depends on what? I'm Betty.
00:32:54
Right.
00:32:55
Um, is that offense is gonna be a shootout, right, Cause if it is, I'm taking over.
00:33:00
I don't think that really determines on how home changed my outlook.
00:33:04
Now, one that will determine at the gambling and aspect of things is, does a core back sit out? Where does the star wide receiver sit out? Or does the star running back store skill position players in general? Do they sit out right? Imagine if Aaron Rodgers decides to sit out, right? If he sits out and then you have to throw in that that new guy right on that is lauded as the next Patrick Mahomes because everybody's gonna be the next Patrick Mahomes.
00:33:28
Right? But if he comes in there and he does terrible, right, I'm probably going to bet against bet against Green Bay every single game.
00:33:36
Right? So that would be the only time that would change anything.
00:33:40
Other than that, I'm still going to go off studying it each week.
00:33:44
Studying who their plan and going off that way.
00:33:46
Oh, also, if you listen to the show and you hear me say that I'm gonna take a team that played against the bills, it doesn't necessarily mean that I think the bills we're gonna lose.
00:33:55
Okay.
00:33:56
If you look at the point spread and the and the plus and minus all that good stuff.
00:34:00
Say, Oakland is like, plus seven, right? And they're playing the bills.
00:34:04
Okay, I'm probably gonna take Oakland in that, okay? Because all they have to do is get within seven points, and I win that game.
00:34:11
Okay, so that doesn't necessarily mean that I'm not a big fan of the Bills.
00:34:14
I want the bills to win.
00:34:15
Oakland can just, you know, get within a field goal, and I can have a heart attack that way.
00:34:20
Right.
00:34:22
So, uh, this is an interesting question here.
00:34:25
Uh, what happens? Have a head coach, gets cove it and order the coordinators.
00:34:29
Now, I'm not familiar with what The prototype won't say anything.
00:34:32
Yeah, um, in it.
00:34:34
And I know that the coaches, I believe headlines will be wearing masks if I'm not, But not that that's gonna matter.
00:34:45
If one of them has Cove in any way, they're not gonna let them.
00:34:48
Um, you know, they're not going to let them have any contact with the team, right? So I think they're probably gonna be quarantined.
00:34:54
We're gonna have to be, you know, test negative before they're allowed to come back.
00:34:58
That's what Daniels saying here.
00:35:00
So and I kind of trust Daniel on this.
00:35:02
He's usually pretty spot on with his, Um, his accuracy is here, So here you go.
00:35:07
Can't come back until CV free Kobe free for a period of time.
00:35:11
Um, so this leads me into something I wanted to talk about.
00:35:15
Conspiracy theory wise, I want and Steve's usually are conspiracy theory guy, but I'm gonna I'm gonna throw a conspiracy theory at you.
00:35:23
I don't know.
00:35:24
It's really conspiracy theory.
00:35:25
Or if it's just more of like, um, I thought I have on what could happen this year when regards Because you mentioned quarterback.
00:35:32
And yes, if you remember the first couple years, you know, they were doing the concussion testing right where they had the guy on the sideline doing the like, the Independent, the independent neurologist or whatever.
00:35:45
That was on the sideline doing the testing for concussions in like it always seemed to be that the quarterback, like, remember that infamous Russell Wilson game where he just, like, went into the tent and came right out like a second later and went right back onto the field.
00:35:59
And it was like it was I think it was on a prime time game, and they're like, Well, Russell Wills in a concussion tests and then that he's back on the field while a glass.
00:36:08
So I'm wondering conspiracy theory to mean says, if a the star quarterback are they gonna? If they if they test, are they going to potentially slip through the cracks here and still play? It's obviously a lot different situation with this because you're somewhat a contagious virus and not a concussion that doesn't affect anyone else on the field by in my in my heart and in my head.
00:36:35
I feel like if if Patrick Mahomes got a test for Cove it and it was a huge game that the Chiefs were like on prime time, is there a chance he's playing in that game? Even if he tests, Um, Patrick Holmes is too out spoken.
00:36:50
He's not playing, But you get somebody like, um, like Aaron Rodgers.
00:36:57
That's sure, Josh, I am on the left tonight, so anything's possible.
00:37:01
So I don't know.
00:37:03
I think I think it's a little bit different, right, because it is a virus, right? Be at that point.
00:37:09
It like a lot of guys are gonna be like, Oh my God, I have covert like I need to not do anything.
00:37:14
At that point, football becomes just a game again.
00:37:17
So I think it's a little bit different than a concussion.
00:37:19
Um, I had a concussion once.
00:37:21
I went back into the boxing ring, right, and my brother was like, You might die and I was like, Let's go right So ah, concussion is a little bit different than that.
00:37:29
Um Pierre Kingpin said.
00:37:31
I think the NFL is guaranteed to go the full season on leeway.
00:37:34
It wouldn't work is if there's a mass leak outbreak.
00:37:38
Looks like league teams are mainly focused on mastering protocols to prevent outbreaks.
00:37:43
Right? Um, we can't really go into a bubble as the NFL can me, I got no.
00:37:48
Do we play just one home game, like in a centralized location like NHL is doing in Edmonton like, how do we do that? Go Preds.
00:37:56
Well, that's also I mean, the NFL has had a lot more time to to prepare and get their protocols right than other leagues have, right, Like a lot of this stuff happened in the middle of seasons for other leagues like NHL N B A.
00:38:08
So they had to kind of adapt on the fly and figure out the best way they could kind of either continue or complete their season, whereas the NFL hasn't played any games yet.
00:38:18
So I feel like they've had since what February march to figure this out.
00:38:23
Like Pierre said, mastering the protocols for preventing the spread, it's gonna be very difficult to have a bubble situation in the NFL.
00:38:31
Um, so, yeah, I mean truth hearts basically throwing.
00:38:35
Ah, you know, throwing my conspiracy theory out of the out of the water or everyone would be a huge I agree.
00:38:41
I just It was just something that it's going to be weird, right? If a guy test positive, it's a star guy and he ends up missing, like, two games and he comes back.
00:38:49
It's just gonna be odd, right? It's just gonna be very odd.
00:38:53
Um, pull.
00:38:54
Pull up, Nicholas, man, he's calling me out Over here.
00:38:58
Dude, you're way too content on what's going what's going on above the camera.
00:39:02
Um, or what do you say? Dude, you're way too content on what's above.
00:39:06
The camera is going on over there ate.
00:39:08
My wife was screaming, and then she comes out of the bedroom and she's just staring at me.
00:39:11
I had no idea what was happening.
00:39:13
I didn't know, like, anything at all.
00:39:15
Then she, like, start playing ball with the dog like it was very confusing time.
00:39:19
Like I don't have a home office.
00:39:20
I'm sorry I'm not retrieved.
00:39:22
A I don't have a home office to do this.
00:39:24
So Nicholas calling me out the man, huh? Noticed me? Pages to tilt.
00:39:28
He's the one talking about conspiracy theorists.
00:39:31
Great movie, by the way, Mel Gibson.
00:39:33
Julia Roberts said he ever checked that.
00:39:35
It's another old one conspiracy theory anyway, uh, so, um, Daniel says don't forget Sally Cat will be down.
00:39:43
That could weigh on decision making.
00:39:44
Yet that lets you room, um, so any Fine. Okay. Okay.
00:39:50
Nick, I know you're just playing.
00:39:52
I'm just playing with you.
00:39:53
I think it's hilarious. Thanks for calling me out.
00:39:55
Ah, yeah, I've called out.
00:39:57
I've called out Steve on the last few shows.
00:39:59
Just cause he's had some, you know, the quarterback thing, and then a few other things.
00:40:03
So don't don't feel too bad about, um okay.
00:40:07
any anyone with any more comments on the covitz situation? The bills with Kobe Did Casey any our final thoughts from you on that before we open it up to Q and A for the last 15 or 20 minutes of the show? No, not stuck my head, man.
00:40:22
No, um, I think Cove, it will impact a lot, just like the Patriots.
00:40:26
I think that's probably gonna be the biggest things, because we'll see people going on off the covert list.
00:40:31
Um, and I don't know, like these tests were getting back pretty quickly.
00:40:35
So my wife was tested for cove it while I was away.
00:40:38
Um, in another state, which is awesome for me, right? I didn't have to go and get tested.
00:40:42
I was getting tested every day, which is annoying.
00:40:45
Um, but she got tested, and it took her about a week to get the results back.
00:40:49
Now, if you look on, um, now, I think somebody said it on Twitter that the test the bills were running.
00:40:56
We're getting back in about a date.
00:40:57
Right? So for my wife, when she got tested, she had a corn seen for two weeks or until she got her test back and hopefully, thank goodness it came back in a week.
00:41:06
But with the NFL's come back in a day.
00:41:08
So we make the player who gets tested and that gets put on that list for a day, comes back off it.
00:41:14
I don't know if maybe that's how it works, but potentially Saturday.
00:41:18
Walk through, get tested and then be out on Sunday.
00:41:22
Right? Absolute that that could happen.
00:41:24
So that's the probably the most interesting thing that could happen.
00:41:28
Yeah.
00:41:29
Um, I agree.
00:41:31
Okay, so Chris put your question again in the comments section, and we'll definitely get to that.
00:41:35
First, I want to just hit one last comment on the co bid before we get to the Q and A.
00:41:40
So go ahead and put that question in the comments, and we will.
00:41:43
We will hit that one as the first question there's going to quickly go back to piers.
00:41:47
Comment around, uh, leave may have no choice, choice but to expand rosters for one year, maybe league drop training Camp Russell from 1980 to potentially allow for 80 men for one year.
00:41:58
The unknown sucks, so I think that it's a great um you know, it's a great point.
00:42:03
And we talked about this a little bit, right? Is that I am a little surprised.
00:42:09
I guess that the league hasn't made an announcement on roster sizes yet.
00:42:13
Now, this may becoming The teams may know it may not just not be official yet.
00:42:19
Um, but this could be a an opportunity for them to go down to 80 and just have an 80 man roster and just make the active gameday roster, you know, whatever.
00:42:29
55 60 whatever you want to do or I'm sorry.
00:42:31
The Thea Active restaurant.
00:42:34
Yeah, active roster on game day, like 50.
00:42:36
But you have an 80 man roster with, like, some semblance of a practice squad.
00:42:39
So I you know, I like that idea because back to Elliot's point, like of having like the, like, the minor leagues and what it would allow you to to have a buffer, right? For potentially a cluster of guys getting tested positive.
00:42:55
So the judge, the judge is in the house, and the judge is in the house tonight.
00:43:02
Hey, took a break from Witcher to come over here and watch us.
00:43:05
Also also is that's cheap, man like 1 99 This is your own Shelley.
00:43:11
Really, really.
00:43:12
How that's calling back in his pocket.
00:43:16
He could live, literally have done, like $1000.
00:43:18
It's going back in your pocket like you were that keep a dollar 99 is like that.
00:43:24
That is cheaper than a stick of deodorant.
00:43:26
You think we're worth less than a stick of deodorant, So thanks, man, I really appreciate that.
00:43:32
Well, im glad he's watching, and he's not just blowing off the show. I know he's done.
00:43:36
He's gone.
00:43:37
He just soaked in left.
00:43:38
He had to work late, So it's nice to see.
00:43:41
And in this picture, he's got a nice haircut.
00:43:43
So for those who don't know you, Steve did get a haircut, so he does not have the mullet anymore.
00:43:49
So we're gonna get to Christmas question for says we start the Q and A section.
00:43:52
We got a good 15 minutes left for Q and A so Chris is question what players get who get cut and don't make our team.
00:44:00
We'll get claimed or signed by other teams, and keep in mind the bills have a depth.
00:44:04
Have depth, better depth now than they've had for a long time.
00:44:09
So Casey, any any players come to mind for you that get cut from the Bills and then make it on to another team's active roster? Uh, the 1st 1 that came to my mind was Duke Williams.
00:44:21
I didn't know anything about it, but, like Duke, Williams was the first name that popped up because he's a good player, but he he's aging a little bit, and I think we've got younger studs in there that could potentially beat him out really quickly.
00:44:32
But he Duke Williams is good enough to be on an active roster somewhere.
00:44:37
I don't think it's gonna be with Bills.
00:44:38
I think he gets cut.
00:44:39
He gets.
00:44:40
He goes to a team that needs wide receivers.
00:44:42
Yeah, I mean, for me, I think it's It is.
00:44:45
It is.
00:44:46
A wide receiver is a good candidate here, right? Because we've been talking a lot about like who makes the bottom of this roster from a wide receivers standpoint, like where we've kind of penciled.
00:44:56
Andre Robertson is a lock and then you've got your top three plus Kate Davis.
00:45:01
It's going to make the team, so that leaves you with guys like Isaiah Hodgins, Duke Williams, Isaiah Mackenzie like thes air.
00:45:07
All guys that, uh, like are gonna probably make a team if they get cut by the bills.
00:45:13
So I do like that.
00:45:14
I also think that honestly, if one, whoever the kicker is that doesn't win the competition.
00:45:20
Oh, yeah, Whether it's Hauschka or bass, I think one of those guys could could get picked up by no team.
00:45:27
The Bills may try to get out from Hauschka maybe a year early, before he kind of really slides.
00:45:33
But another team, like maybe, like the Bears or some team that's really struggled to find a kicker in the last few years could pick him up.
00:45:39
Um, Joshua, thanks for the super chat.
00:45:43
Prettier than you judge talking about.
00:45:45
I guess he's talking about You gotta be investing Daniels.
00:45:50
This house good.
00:45:52
I agree.
00:45:53
I mean, that's it.
00:45:54
Foster to the Chiefs.
00:45:56
Bet on it.
00:45:57
It fosters another one.
00:45:58
I'm going to even mention Robert Foster, and that makes it receivers.
00:46:00
He's another guy that could get cut and picked up by another team.
00:46:03
I know We mean Steve, like Foster as a potential, uh, trade partner with I was really afraid a za guy because, like again, like we're talk about four guys there.
00:46:13
Foster, Williams, Mackenzie and Hodgins.
00:46:17
There's a chance that only one of those guys makes a team.
00:46:19
There's a good chance.
00:46:20
Now again, we've talked about it a lot.
00:46:23
That if roster sizes get expanded, this may not get this.
00:46:27
Make you think.
00:46:30
So you're gonna want to keep all of roster sizes expended.
00:46:34
Exactly.
00:46:35
And that won't be. That won't be an issue.
00:46:37
Um, and that will be something that really plays into the bill's favorite.
00:46:40
Given their depth, right.
00:46:41
They could have got a good one through 53 but they've really got a good depth one through 71 years.
00:46:46
Tribute.
00:46:47
That's that's good on trade rather than cuts right they did last year.
00:46:52
They traded with the Pats often the linemen.
00:46:54
Ryan, somebody can't be over the top of my head.
00:46:56
I got sixth round pick back for him, right.
00:46:58
And they were gonna cut him anywhere.
00:46:59
Russell Bodine? Yeah.
00:47:01
This the center? Yep.
00:47:02
Um, Krista and I think we could get a pick for trading Robert Foster 100%.
00:47:06
Yeah, I think we could, too.
00:47:09
Yep. Yep.
00:47:10
I think so, too.
00:47:11
Um, we like the Packers is a potential trade partner there.
00:47:15
Um, so this isn't it.
00:47:18
This is it.
00:47:19
I wouldn't say this is a conspiracy theory, but it's something that a lot of people have been brought bringing up on social media.
00:47:24
Belichick will exploit this somehow scope of this stuff with a ton of players.
00:47:27
They're gonna release the builder roster and weird, cheeky way.
00:47:30
People seem to think that there's someone for some reason, like you look at it, right.
00:47:34
The Pats have an outsized number of guys who have opted out so far.
00:47:37
Now it could even out by Monday or Wednesday or whenever the opted out date is.
00:47:41
But is there any way here that Belichick is like, somehow gaming the system from a Kobe perspective? I don't see it.
00:47:49
Maybe it's not obvious to me, but is somebody need somebody said something on Twitter? And I love Twitter cause they're so stupid on their social media is the greatest because he will just say whatever they want on social media.
00:48:02
And then then they like what? No, I'm right.
00:48:04
But somebody said that, um, Bill Belichick has such a good relationship with his guys.
00:48:10
He's telling them to opt out right so they can roll over that guaranteed money.
00:48:15
Okay, so he can tank for forever, Lawrence And I just think that's the dumbest thing in the world.
00:48:22
Like like, so bad.
00:48:24
Like, I want to go and punch whoever said that in the face built Bellatrix not tanking for Trevor Lawrence.
00:48:29
So he's not gonna take now.
00:48:31
He might try to trade up for, um, for Lawrence. Might have about year.
00:48:34
You might fall a little bit and offsetting Bill Belichick trade up into 15 16 whatever and try to get him.
00:48:40
But I don't see him tanking.
00:48:41
I don't see Bill Belgique talking to these guys and saying, Hey, don't play this year.
00:48:45
Get your money next year like I don't see it.
00:48:47
But then again, I don't know e think it happened with Bill Bus that he's a I can't wait until he retires.
00:48:54
And negative read all about his life story.
00:48:56
Yeah, so Elliot says packages.
00:48:58
So its functions to you.
00:48:59
So I need wide receiver so again could be an option for Foster.
00:49:02
They're in the trade truth.
00:49:04
The heart says.
00:49:05
I think the legal limit transactions.
00:49:07
But let's say we cut Barkley team like the Patriots signed him to get Intel.
00:49:10
Um, I also think to something to appoint Steve made last week is there is a chance the league might try to limit transactions because it means less players like being exposed to other people, right? Like going from one locker room to another.
00:49:24
Um, you know, with all the precautions, that's fine.
00:49:27
But like the math is, if you limit the amount of travel in amount of, you know transactions, it means fewer guys going from team to team.
00:49:35
You guys traveling? Blessed chance, probably of Kobe spread, so that could be a possibility as well.
00:49:42
Daniel asked.
00:49:45
Where's the next guy? Well, you fired him.
00:49:48
He's key.
00:49:49
The court is not in session tonight, right? So he is.
00:49:52
He's out and about.
00:49:54
He did break a comment in the ah, in the chat here.
00:49:58
So he is.
00:50:00
He's lurking, but he's not on tonight.
00:50:02
He had some other arrangements.
00:50:03
So 11 punch man, which is an anime show? No narrow down a little bit more, he said.
00:50:11
Is Bill actually a CIF lord? Yes, him and George are Binks are both CIF lords.
00:50:17
Okay on.
00:50:18
So Okay, moving on.
00:50:19
Smash that, like, appreciate you, Josh.
00:50:21
Oh, uh, do you go by Joshua? Joshua? Yeah, I just d m You will figure it out later.
00:50:26
Yeah, he I mean, he's a regular.
00:50:28
I think he'll let it slide.
00:50:29
You know, he's he's good.
00:50:31
So, um, here's an interesting comment from J and other regulars.
00:50:36
I know the Bills are trying to conserve it on cat money, but do you think we upgraded de offensive end ever since Griffin and cut Trent Murphy? This is a really popular sort of question and also, like a lot of people, kind of feel, uh, we should do this.
00:50:50
But you know, the boar I've done these shows, the more I actually see that there's a like there's more of a split opinion on Trent Murphy that you might realize, like there are actually a lot of Trent Murphy supporters out there.
00:51:02
He did.
00:51:03
You know, he did play pretty well down the stretch last year, and I think with the Bills knowing what they have in him, Um, look, Everson Griffin's a great player.
00:51:10
I mean, you know, Murphy's got just the one year left on his contract.
00:51:13
But I would imagine that if they haven't done this already, they're not going to mercy.
00:51:18
Didn't play bad last year.
00:51:20
He just didn't live up to his contract, right? He's got a lofty contract, but he just didn't.
00:51:25
The judges manager? Yeah, he has.
00:51:28
Everybody stand down listening, but driving.
00:51:31
Um, is Arizona hands free state that sense? Maybe he's listening.
00:51:38
I mean, I don't know.
00:51:39
He could be just listening on its on the audio.
00:51:42
I hope he's not watching.
00:51:43
I know, right? Got it set up in this car right there.
00:51:45
Like a GPS watching us.
00:51:47
Um oof.
00:51:50
Do you think from makes the rocks that it's such a good question? I was staring at that earlier.
00:51:54
I want to ask.
00:51:55
I want to ask you this question.
00:51:57
In the context of normal roster construction in a 53 man situation, normal practice squad does from make this roster.
00:52:05
Yes.
00:52:07
Yeah, I think he does.
00:52:08
Right, cause you're preparing for Matt Barkley to leave, right? Because, you know, from is a cheaper option than Barclay at this point.
00:52:16
Um, I think I think he does, but they need came out, and he was all crazy.
00:52:21
Um, And I think that, like, how are you going to gain the respect back from your peers, right? Um, he he lost my respect real quick, right? But how is he gonna gain the respect back from his peers? Are you ever going to want to be in the locker room with him again? Now, I think everybody deserves a second chance, and I'm not trying to preach on anything.
00:52:40
I think everybody deserves a second chance that you have to prove that.
00:52:44
And his second chance can take a lot of work.
00:52:47
Um, I don't think they'll cut him for that reason alone, right? I don't think they will, but at this point, you have to weigh in those options, like, how will it affect the locker room? You know that. That's a big question.
00:53:00
It is.
00:53:01
And I mean, another thing that's working against from is he doesn't have a preseason to showcase.
00:53:06
He doesn't have a preseason to beat out Matt Barkley for the number two job.
00:53:11
If he beats out Mark Matt Barkley for the number two job, it's purely gonna come from what he shows in camp and what the coaches think about him long term if they feel like Hey, look, this is Matt Barkley's last year.
00:53:21
Contract wise, right? You think From's the guy Long term backup lies we probably keep from.
00:53:26
It's not like Matt Barkley is a carbon copy of Josh Allen.
00:53:29
In fact, Matt Barkley's more of, ah, more similar to Jake from the arm strength and skill sets standpoint, So those two are more redundant than either of them are with Josh Allen.
00:53:39
So I think if the Bills feel like from could be the long term backup.
00:53:44
Possibly.
00:53:45
There's also the situation with you know, Josh has that relationship with Matt.
00:53:48
I don't know how much that will weigh into this, but again, mats on the last year of his deal.
00:53:52
So this is an interesting one.
00:53:54
I think again we keep coming back to it.
00:53:56
But if rosters expanded like they're all going to make it right way, have such good depth? Yep.
00:54:02
So, um, Elliot says, I say, especially because the situation we're normally everybody worried about getting picked up would put him to the practice squad.
00:54:10
So that's another possibility, right from if From does not have a chance to show himself in the preseason, Does he? Is he able to slip to the practice? What? I still don't think so, Right? Because I still think he was drafted a few rounds later than he probably should have been.
00:54:25
Yeah, he's gonna get scooped up by a Q B needy team.
00:54:28
I think, Um, good question here from Jason.
00:54:32
Do you think that with all the primetime games, the bills, they will finally get the respect they deserve? All CRC knew Casey on this.
00:54:38
Yes.
00:54:40
100% percent.
00:54:41
I live in Tennessee.
00:54:42
OK, do you know how hard it is to watch a Bills game in Tennessee is almost non existent.
00:54:47
I have to get NFL Sunday ticket and watch the Bills games.
00:54:51
That's that's how I watch it right here.
00:54:53
And And, yeah, you live in the Carolinas, either north or South.
00:54:57
I don't know. One of the others.
00:54:59
Middle.
00:55:00
You live in Middle Carolina, so you get it too, right? Eso it is hard to watch a Bills game, but if they're on prime time right, you're kind of forced to watch him when you're in a small market like Tennessee.
00:55:11
Or let's just say the Nebraska for some random asked for reason like that.
00:55:15
Right.
00:55:16
So you're having to watch whatever game is on those primetime games, right? So people will finally see the bills.
00:55:21
DnB like, Whoa.
00:55:22
Yeah, they're actually pretty legit.
00:55:24
I can't tell you how many times I've got in a fight with somebody at work over the Buffalo Bills.
00:55:28
Does they only watched one game the whole year? Yep.
00:55:32
I mean, this is a good point from m O is different kinds of play.
00:55:35
And to be honest with you, they they did play well in the priests in their primetime games last year.
00:55:42
The defense. They played really well against Pittsburgh.
00:55:44
And people are again going to say, Well, it was because they had dark Hodges at quarterback.
00:55:48
Pittsburgh did.
00:55:49
And the so was like, Anybody's gonna look good, but the suffer get trade.
00:55:52
White had two interceptions in that game.
00:55:54
You're all throat.
00:55:55
And he made the key interception down the sideline late in the game to set us up for the go ahead.
00:55:59
Ah, for the go ahead score.
00:56:02
So yeah, And against the pats on that Christmas, Uh, you know, the Christmas weekend game? They played pretty well too.
00:56:09
And I know the Pats offense wasn't what? You know what it's typically been in the past? The ship of state.
00:56:14
They showed up lacking to made a couple of things.
00:56:16
That key stop on fourth down and against Dallas.
00:56:19
So, I mean, you talk about the three primetime games they had last year.
00:56:22
They showed up for those.
00:56:24
Yeah, but competition is going to be ratcheted up, though this year right there, playing the Niners.
00:56:28
The Chiefs.
00:56:29
So, like, they're they're going to have to elevate their game a swell to keep that up, but yeah, they will.
00:56:37
They will get the respect, I think, with the fact that they have double the amount of primetime games this year.
00:56:42
Um, Elliot, are we still under the radar? I say no.
00:56:46
I think too many.
00:56:47
I think a lot of people are kind of like it's weird, right? Cause there's still a lot of Josh Allen hate out there.
00:56:52
But a lot of people are like hyping up the bills.
00:56:54
The Sierras like as like, a real sleeper, dark horse team.
00:56:58
So, um, I don't think we're under the radar.
00:57:01
Honestly, I don't I think for the average fan, yes.
00:57:05
Were under the radar.
00:57:06
I think for the average fan who just watches NFL every now and then they're like, Who are the bills, Right.
00:57:11
I think we're still in aerator for that.
00:57:12
I think, media, I think the media is starting to catch on that.
00:57:16
You know, Bill's mafi ain't nothing to mess with, right? Um, but yeah.
00:57:21
Yeah, I think you start there in the middle ground.
00:57:23
Yeah.
00:57:24
Okay.
00:57:25
Catch good. You know what I was saying before? Think the DEA's on the map.
00:57:27
Now, after last year against Alysia, that was Ah, you know, that was the most watched game I believe all year from a ratings from a viewer standpoint.
00:57:34
Is Thanksgiving game.
00:57:35
Right? So, um so yet, uh, all right, Yeah.
00:57:41
We were talking about backup quarterbacks naked.
00:57:44
Someone asked about it so and thanks.
00:57:46
Grub quarterbacks.
00:57:48
That's kind of messed up.
00:57:49
They made to the league.
00:57:50
Nick, Have you ever made the league? Oh, come on.
00:57:52
Think I'm kidding.
00:57:54
I'm kidding.
00:57:55
Please don't look at my i p address and give me swatted.
00:57:58
Um, general media would say we're a wildcard round one playoff team.
00:58:02
Yeah, probably.
00:58:03
And that's what I'm saying.
00:58:04
We're kind of still under the radar because of that? Um, yeah, agreed.
00:58:09
Right.
00:58:10
We can look at the NFL 100 write themselves.
00:58:12
Josh Allen made that.
00:58:13
So the players, the team's recognized the bills.
00:58:15
And what we're doing this for is the media and the public like the average fan and the ESPN, The NFL Network, like, I think they're still kind of, you know, still, right there underneath us.
00:58:25
There's a couple of people in the media who are like a Buffalo Bills aren't onto.
00:58:28
He slept on this year, but, um, were under the radar because of them.
00:58:33
Yeah, this is an interesting comment from MLS.
00:58:35
Under the radar is an underrated yes. Or at least I hope so.
00:58:38
I think I don't think it's as in underrated.
00:58:41
I think it's just this people are not taking the fact that we have a really good roster and a good team.
00:58:45
And we're on the ascent, Um, outside of bills, mafia And like, you know, Bill's kind of media like you said Casey to the average fan, that may be true.
00:58:56
Um, so yeah, I mean, I think, uh, you know, I think that this makes sense.
00:59:01
I mean, the bills are like the little brother start being sold from.
00:59:04
There's a I will tell you this my my youngest brother and my up my middle brother was on the show earlier, and he made a comment.
00:59:11
But my youngest brother, he was like, always getting **** on by me and my middle brother.
00:59:17
I'm the younger Yes.
00:59:18
And And guess what? It turned out he and about being the best athlete of the three Mus****.
00:59:23
Tallest. He's the best golfer.
00:59:25
That's just looking.
00:59:26
Probably the best looking.
00:59:27
I don't know, but it happens.
00:59:30
It happens, and you just kind of deal.
00:59:32
Oh, my God. Steve.
00:59:34
Oh, my gosh.
00:59:35
Hey, at least you know least he got that money.
00:59:37
Not where is not a typical the typical comment that we always show.
00:59:42
Where's Rico? Ah, yes, we know.
00:59:45
We know Rico is the man people love.
00:59:47
Rico will never be Rico.
00:59:49
But we're trying.
00:59:50
We're trying.
00:59:51
We're trying our best.
00:59:53
Uh, so we're right at 10 o'clock, this has been really pretty solid.
00:59:57
Um, a number of topics here.
01:00:00
Does anyone in the comments section one of throw any last minute super chats in before we wrap the show tonight? um I'm gonna give Casey another chance to talk about his show really quick.
01:00:10
Right before we end, I want to give people Ah, a couple minutes here to just throw in an extra super super chap before we before we sign off.
01:00:18
So Casey want you? I want to give viewers another summary of what you're doing once again at read em and weep.
01:00:25
You can see it right down there at the bottom.
01:00:26
It's its rights.
01:00:28
Yes, Backwards.
01:00:31
There you go.
01:00:32
Right there. Right. There it is.
01:00:33
That took way too long.
01:00:34
Okay, so I'm at freedom and weak.
01:00:36
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01:00:38
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01:00:44
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01:00:48
So right now, this this next six or 55 or six weeks we're talking about, um, the top list of fantasy football players.
01:00:57
Right? So we just went over quarterbacks last week.
01:01:00
This upcoming week, we're gonna be talking about wide receivers.
01:01:03
Which wide receivers are in the top tier second tier one to draft them.
01:01:05
Okay, with that being said at the end of our show, we do our gambling bets.
01:01:10
So before the season, I don't really have any bets besides NHL and NBA and stuff like that.
01:01:15
So we are going to be talking about some easy money.
01:01:18
Kind of get our feet wet.
01:01:20
On what games to bet on.
01:01:21
Like, for instance, I took the preds plus 1.
01:01:26
5 cause I'm from Tennessee.
01:01:28
I don't know why I took the president was subconscious, but to the press plus five, I just bet $5 on the game.
01:01:33
Whatever.
01:01:34
I went $5 if they went right, so we talked about gambling.
01:01:36
We go through all that.
01:01:38
My show airs on Sundays.
01:01:40
Every Sunday will pop up when the season starts.
01:01:44
We are going to be talking about games that I like and must bet games.
01:01:50
Okay, so I'm gonna go through a list of games.
01:01:52
Probably five of them throughout the week.
01:01:54
Of who you should bet on.
01:01:56
Why should bet on him And how I think outcome's gonna go and then a lock of the week. Of course.
01:02:01
I don't know if I'm called Lock of the week of we're gonna be talking about something like that.
01:02:05
A game that you must bet on is free money.
01:02:07
Guys, um, you're really gonna like it's check me out.
01:02:10
It's Sundays.
01:02:11
It's called Buff City.
01:02:12
Just certain Buff City.
01:02:13
You'll find me all day long and hit the like button from Captain America.
01:02:18
Yeah, I love Daniels.
01:02:19
Avatar.
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It's perfect. Bills, colors, Captain America.
01:02:22
It's great.
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Also, don't forget to check out be a fan shop.
01:02:25
I got this. Sweet bills, guys.
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Hoody.
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There's a bunch of other stuff out there that you should be sure that Mr Process um use the code bills.
01:02:34
Guys, you get 10% off your entire order and you could use it as many times as you want.
01:02:39
Uh, no.
01:02:40
Last minute Super Chet's. Oh, wait, we did get one.
01:02:42
Thank you.
01:02:43
D m three bills can play with anyone this year.
01:02:44
Just need establish identity offense.
01:02:46
Yeah.
01:02:47
I mean, look, this is the year where I mean, think about what? Think about last year, right? There was the There was like the people in day Balls corner and the people in Josh Allen's corner.
01:02:57
It wasn't a whole lot of like in between where you know, you got like, Oh, is that kind of both of their fall sorts? It's neither of their faults, right? So to me this year, like tables got the tools.
01:03:08
Yep, with his, with his offense at his disposal.
01:03:11
And Josh Allen has to execute.
01:03:14
It's gonna be you out.
01:03:15
Yes, and we've talked about table needs to improve them.
01:03:19
Devils never had never coordinated the top 20 offense.
01:03:22
Scoring lies in in his entire tenure as being an offense.
01:03:25
1/4 coordinator throughout his career in the NFL, he's never coordinated a top 20 offense.
01:03:31
Is he gonna be able to do that this year? We're talking about what the Bills need to get somewhere between 22 23 points a game to get him in the top 15.
01:03:38
Is he going to be able to get this team over the home 19.
01:03:41
6, then cut it.
01:03:42
Last year, we didn't mean that 20 to 23.
01:03:44
So if the Bills I agree with the M three year, if they can get those points for games up and Able and Alan are on the same page in both of them, improve in the respective responsibilities that Yes, they could play with anyone this year.
01:03:58
So preach on that.
01:04:00
Um so well said, says Elliott.
01:04:04
Agree.
01:04:05
Um, Word war coder 01 said.
01:04:10
So it's not about buff people talking about my podcasts, and it's not because I am fat.
01:04:16
I do not work out at all.
01:04:19
No, it's not about Buff City.
01:04:21
The reason I'm from Tennessee, right? So I've got I'm in between Memphis and Nashville.
01:04:25
Memphis is Bluff City.
01:04:28
That's the nickname from Memphis eso.
01:04:30
I wanted to combine something of where I am and who I represent, Um, which is Buffalo.
01:04:35
So I just moved into Buff City.
01:04:37
So yeah, and we'll just wrap the show with this comment from Daniel.
01:04:41
It's a perfect way to end it.
01:04:43
Please, God, just give us a football season. 2020.
01:04:45
Couldn't agree more.
01:04:47
Let's have it.
01:04:48
Um, really appreciate everyone's comments tonight.
01:04:50
We have a ton of comments, Really good conversation tonight.
01:04:55
As always, we appreciate the super chats.
01:04:57
We'll be back Monday.
01:04:58
Steve will be back Monday.
01:05:00
I'll be back on the right.
01:05:01
Don't worry.
01:05:02
Eso things will be kind of back to normalcy then.
01:05:06
But Casey, thank you so much for joining me tonight.
01:05:08
It's been a lot of fun, Stephen.
01:05:11
I end end every show with ago bills.
01:05:13
So I'm gonna let you go out first with your go bills and all.
01:05:18
And the show with the go bills.
01:05:20
It was so fun to get the band back together.
01:05:23
Next time we need to have Steve like he needs to show up and stop watching Netflix.
01:05:26
But go bills go bills.
01:05:29
Goodnight, everyone.

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