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All right, so I'm assuming working, Running.
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What's going on, everybody? My name is Joe.
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New Beau alongside me.
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We got my guy, Lawrence O.
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And we are SportsCastr news again.
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We're done a man.
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And because Ray is still on vacation as we are over here busting our cuts and my man Ray is over there enjoying himself s you probably should in life.
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But anyway, so today, Lawrence, we are discussing the Cincinnati Bangles, a team that I hold dear and close to my heart because they, of course, are in the Ravens division.
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And, uh, you know, the Bengals for a while I was, you know, I pretty much I got to say that I hated them because they were just always beating us like they had our number for a cool while.
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But lately, ever since Lamar came to the team were, ah, three, you know against I believe so.
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I hope that continues.
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I think it will continue, but ah, yeah.
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I mean, I've always had that hatred for the Bengals, but anyway, that's nowhere we're talking about.
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What we are talking about is what we think about this Bengal sea, and let me just say, Lawrence, I know that you and Ray are not super hot on Joe Borough.
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At least as much as I am.
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I think he's gonna be pretty darn good.
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I think he has a chance to be offensive rookie of the year.
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Um, but the thing is, he did go to Cincinnati, which I mean isn't necessarily I wouldn't put them in.
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I wouldn't say they're the worst of the worst organization wise.
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But, I mean, I still think that you would rank them at the bottom.
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Um, so you know, that's and it's just another situation.
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Kind of like Sam Donald going to the Jets.
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You know, Dwayne Haskins going to Washington and that type of stuff.
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But before I get too far into it, I want to get into your thoughts on this team as a whole.
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Are you feeling, you know, kind of How do you feel about this team in general this year? I think this team's bottomed lower still, and there's a reason for that.
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Uh, when a team picks number one in a draft.
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When was the last time you ever seen a team picked number one in the draft and then I remember, one pick is a quarterback, and then that following year, they become relevant in any possible way.
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It's usually two or three years later, but that's something like that.
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Happens right as suspects.
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I mean, generally, when you're picking number one, that means you have way too many holes, you know, on your team.
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And there's way too many holes for your team to be able to fill the of the draft and free agency in one season.
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And was the last time you seen a quarterback pick number one that had a great rookie year? Yeah, that's it.
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I'm actually looking that up right now, because now that you brought that up, I was curious as well.
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So, uh, So Kyler Mary, last year and the car, would you say he was great? I mean, he had okay season? No, I think you had a good season, but I'm just talking about pure winds.
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Let's see.
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Yeah.
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How many wins did they have last year? Let's, uh, sorry.
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Oh, were they 5 10 and one? Was this That OK? Yeah.
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So there you go.
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I mean, what about Let's see who else we got? Baker.
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What did they go 78 and one.
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I believe I actually remember that.
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Um, Jared Goff was also in 2016.
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And let's see what the Rams were just cause I'm curious.
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I mean, we have time on this stream, so we might as well.
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Yeah.
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Uh, Let's see, some 2016 rams they went for in 12 after they drafted Jared Goff.
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But he didn't start all the games, But still, that's not what we're talking about.
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Um, and then there was Andrew Luck.
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Do you remember how you guys did into that? Fully actually, that when I think he he asked, you guys went to the playoffs? I remember.
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Okay, so that was the last time.
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That was the last time that I was right here.
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And I'm here now.
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Yeah, nine years ago, that happened.
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And that was coming off a team that, um you had some pieces.
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Their you know, uh, it was they were going through a big rebuild face, but it was like a one year rebuild.
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Because of what? That situation with a little bit different, right? I mean, two years prior, they were like a are a playoff team, you know, a perennial playoff team, and they still have pieces from that team.
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And that's something a little bit different than trying to start completely over fresh.
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The way Cincinnati is doing right now, very, very rarely very hurt, would you? I mean, enjoyable up.
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Knew everybody knew when Andrew luck with coming out, that he was going to be a top quarterback in the league.
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I mean, very years before he was drafted, right, and then they knew.
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And then Joe Borough.
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When he comes the year prior to him being drafted, nobody knew who the heck iwas Right.
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So there a lot of people, they got to realize that that when you pick a quarterback number one in a draft, most likely your next following season's not gonna be that good unless you had a solid team behind him before you got it, you know, and just was very unlucky that previous year due to injuries or something like that.
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That's what happened the previous year with Colts.
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You know Peyton Manning had the neck injury and was out for the season.
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That's what happened.
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So but Cincinnati is not walking into that situation.
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Cincinnati's opening with a really bad wall stir well.
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But see, I don't think their roster is as bad as a lot of people make it out to be.
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I think it's not the worst.
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You know, I think their defense is the worst in the NFL.
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No, I mean, I think they're gonna improve.
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I mean, that front front four is pretty nasty start.
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It's amazing.
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Their front door was so good luck.
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You know, it is good.
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And yet they gave up more rushing. Urgent.
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Any other football team in the Yeah.
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I mean, they don't have linebackers, so that's that's the problem.
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Everything that they're going to run into and And there's defense wasn't good, either, right? And I mean, they really only have two really good players in the secondary and Jesse Bates and William Jackson.
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But aside from that, I'd say you just have average solid players at best.
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Um, and of course, the linebackers are definitely something to worry about.
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I mean, Josh Bynes, who I thought played really well for the Ravens last year, is there starting middle linebacker, So I mean, we'll see.
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That's kind of an experiment.
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Veteran linebacker.
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We'll see how that goes, and then they just got young guys playing.
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Aside from that, it's just not really.
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I don't feel good about that.
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And then the offensive line, obviously, is still pretty bad.
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Um, but as I've said, man, this offense, if they had a good offensive line, they could do damage.
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They could do damage.
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I love you.
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I like Joe Mixon as a running back junior, your Bonnie.
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But art isn't that terrible of, ah, running back, I think A. J. Green.
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Right now, I think you kind of got a mark him off because he has been healthy and three season, right? Yeah, I guess.
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I guess I'll see.
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I'll believe it when I see it.
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Yeah, that whole.
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He's got to show up for me to see that he's working on right now.
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Yeah, but I mean, even if you do cross out a J.
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Green, they still have Tyler Boyd.
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John Ross.
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If he just even just as a staff as a decoy deep threat audio tape, who's pretty **** solid T.
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Higgins.
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They just drafted him this past season, Alex Eric said.
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They are deep at one fever, So even if you say oh, let's just get rid of a J Green have the depth.
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I think their best, I think our best wide receiver right now. Tekin.
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Interesting.
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Uh, John Ross really hasn't done that much, you know, he should out.
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He's got the superstars.
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Speed Boy is OK.
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I don't think he's I mean, he's not a top 10 receiver in the league.
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Like to hit.
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It has the ability to be, um I think T.
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Higgins is as close to DeAndre Hopkins as you can get as a rookie.
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Um, he had almost the that scene.
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That what, like combine numbers that that, um, Coppins has.
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And he has a very similar place. Valleys.
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He's known for that 50 50 sure handed kind of catch guy.
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Um, I think he Higgins has a chance to become a very, very big receiver in the NFL.
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Is one of my favorite.
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Once it came out in the draft, C j.
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Tomorrow. He's not bad.
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He's okay.
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Bombed Their tight ends are just okay at best.
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I I don't think this team has the firepower.
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You put up enough points to overcome though the defensive flaws idea what we don't.
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I think this could be a team that if Joe Borough is what I think he is.
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He can put this team on his back, and he's going to get some surprising winds, some shocking winds.
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I think everybody sees this team is like a 451 team.
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I have him a little better, maybe six, maybe seven if Joe Bro really goes off.
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But yeah, aside from that, I don't see them having a winning season.
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Unfortunately, I put the max number of wins for this team at seven, and even that may be on the higher side.
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But I think, realistically, for me, I would say six and 10.
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And this is before even looking at schedule.
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Looking at five and 11. Max.
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Okay, Max five and 11.
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You heard it here first.
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Lawrence has been the rial, pessimistic one. As of late.
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I feel like usually it's the other way around.
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I'm the one, that's all.
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Well, it's it's really it's based on, you know, I go by history, you know.
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Also, you know, it's not just I don't look at and have gut feelings.
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Um, Omar looking how teams have done in the past as well, you know, in this team just has not had a good run over the last four or five years, right? And they're going through a complete overhaul right now, so I just I don't see it.
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I could see them in two or three years being competitive in their division, you know, especially a Pittsburgh continues to move down the list, but I think that I think they're gonna because I think this offense has a lot of firepower.
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But obviously the main thing holding them back, like I said, is that offensive line.
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I would have a lot more confidence if they at least had an average offensive line.
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Like just have average players.
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But you have crap, Um, so that's a huge concern.
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But I think potentially you could face up against the team against a team and we're gonna see who they play, you know, week after week, you're pretty soon.
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Potentially, they could face a week that doesn't have the strongest defensive line right.
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They don't have the strongest pass rushers, and maybe the offensive line holds up, get your receivers going, get some big plays.
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Joe Borough Joe mix and runs the ball.
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They could put a points here, man.
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I really think that they could put a points.
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It's just a young team, and offensively they have a lot of young talent outside of A J.
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Green and youth does not always mean, uh, wins.
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You know, like I say, generally your rookies, they generally don't do well.
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Their first, especially quarterbacks and wide receivers.
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They generally don't do well their first season, you know.
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And when I I think a J.
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Green is their number one receiver right now because of the fact that you know what the way a.
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J.
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Green's been, um, what we had, what 2000 yard receivers last year that were rookies, I think, Um and that was it.
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And that was a pretty decent draft classroom receivers as well.
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It wasn't quite as defense this year, but it was a good draft.
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It was, um, and we only had 2000 yard receivers that were rookies, quarterback wise, rookie wise.
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You know, you had a couple that were okay.
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You had more of your surprised people, right? Like Daniel Jones, like your gardener mentions, you know, that that came out and actually over performed what their expectations were.
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Whereas some of your top guys, you were looking at going well.
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I thought they do better now.
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You got to remember.
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Like I said earlier, When you're picking that high and your want a quarterback, that obviously means that you've got way more problems than just one person.
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I hear you.
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They also had a new head coach, you know that.
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So there was that whole thing, But I actually want to go back to their last year schedule.
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And I mean, some of these are blowouts.
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Like Week two against the 40 Niners.
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They just got destroyed 41 to 17.
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But in week one 21 to 20 Seahawks just edged it out against the Bills.
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21 to 17.
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Pretty close.
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Um, Steelers demolished them.
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Cardinals 26 23 close their, um they kept it close against the Ravens.
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I was at that game.
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I remember that.
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That was just crazy.
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How they kept a close.
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Jags beat him by 10 Rams beating by 40.
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That's when they really okay.
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That's when they really started getting terrible.
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Lost by seven of the Raiders of the problem, huh? When the Jaguars beat you bad when there's a problem? Yeah, lost by six to the Steelers beat the Jets, 22 6 staying but right a lot of by eight to the Browns got demolished by the Pats.
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Oh, lost in overtime to the Dolphins, my three and then lost and then beat the Browns by 10 points.
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So I mean, there there's some close games in their men.
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I mean, there's a difference between five and 11 and two and 14 right along a lot of those games.
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A lot of your close and you're close games were divisional games, you know, games that you didn't expect them to come.
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And when you're talking divisional games, anything can happen because teams know each other so well, so I'll give him that.
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It is just like what you said you was there with the whole When they played the Ravens, they were like, While I can't believe they're still in this game, they know you expect that, you know, you walk in thinking, but we're a better team.
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We should be them.
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But there is no there is never a point where your life there is no way this team can beat us, right? As you know, it's a divisional game, right? So yeah, no.
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And it's funny.
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There's a funny story about that game because, like I said, that was the first time I went to Baltimore to watch a game there.
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That was that game.
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Um, the opening had an Kwan Boldin announcing to everybody that he was retiring a rave in, and that was obviously huge news because that was the first time he had ever said it.
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So everybody was super hyped.
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And then kickoff starts, whistle blows and everything, and then it's a kickoff return for a touchdown for the Bengals.
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They go up immediately, like the first place on my oh my God, and every the wind just went out of the stadium of Light.
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Oh, this is how we're going to start this game, My first game in Baltimore.
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This is how it's gonna start.
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But luckily, we were able to win that game.
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So anyway, yeah, man, this Bangles team like I think I would have a lot more confidence in this offense.
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Like I said, if they just had an average offensive line, that's seriously or if they can at least play higher than what they've showed us that they can play, you know? Um and again the defense I don't think is the worst in the league.
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I wouldn't say that, but they are definitely down there.
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I mean, you have a great defensive line.
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Secondary is still, in my opinion, not there.
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Um, you know, I'm not super high on Trae Waynes.
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Um, you have Alexander.
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You have some question marks there, in my opinion.
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And Vonn Bell is just all right, in my opinion, So yeah, he's just shy.
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And then, of course, the linebackers air.
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Really? I mean, they've been a weakness for the Bengals for.
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Feels like a a long time, so yeah, the defense does definitely concern me, but I think the Bengals could potentially get into some shootouts with this offense.
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Man, I'm telling you, I just I'm just I'm looking at this now.
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Think about this, okay? Cincinnati gave up over 3900 yards in the air last year, and that wasn't their worst part.
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The worst part was yeah, they only okay, they came about almost 2400 yards on the ground, 2400 yards rushing on the ground.
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Most of that was really the Ravens.
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Good gracious.
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Well, they they averaged 4.
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7 yards gave up 4.
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7 yards a carry, which isn't the worst in the league.
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And I think it was like fourth or fifth worst in the league, but still 4.
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7 yards on the ground.
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You go up against a team that can run the ball well, obviously, they're they're in trouble and they play a lot of teams this year that run the ball very, very well.
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Yeah, I mean, look at their division, right? All three other teams run the ball really well.
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I mean, provided the Steelers can, but I think they can.
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But yeah, you definitely don't want to have someone like Josh Bynes back there.
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I mean, not to say he's a bad player, because, like I said, I thought he played really well.
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But against Lamar Jackson, I don't like that matchup whatsoever.
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Um, they did pick up somebody in the off season that I think will help a little bit against the run.
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And that's deejay reader.
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Yes, that's right, Houston.
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That was their big signing up.
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He's actually Ah good at taking on double teams and freeing up people, and that will allow Gino actions right beside him and Gino actions is, uh, hot for defensive linemen in the NFL, right? Just a beast.
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And he's needed someone beside him this whole time they had Carlos Dunlap, but he's not all that great.
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In my opinion, he's okay as a pass rusher, but, uh, not the greatest against the run.
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Sure Gino is, but he needed somebody to help take blocks away from him and D J readers.
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Yeah, that was a great signing for sure.
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That was definitely agreed standing.
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Um, but again, I think if they That's why if they go up against teams that have a quarterback that holds the ball too long, you know, they could potentially have some success with that defensive line defensively.
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But of course, unless the quarterback just looks to the right and it's like, Oh, Trae Waynes is on that guy.
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So let me just throw it him.
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He's probably gonna be open, right? So anyway, well, I don't even think straight wins.
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A sign is I just throw over the middle.
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Yeah, every time, just throw over the middle or run up the middle.
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Yeah. Um but yeah.
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I mean, there are still concerns about this team Obviously, I think they I don't like you said.
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I don't think this is the year I still think that.
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Did you just get some protection for this guy? Man just gets like, Seriously, I know you drafted Joan Williams and we'll see what you're hoping he is the starting left tackle.
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But aside from that, I mean, it's a bunch of projects.
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It's a bunch of, you know, we'll see, and it's just you don't want to have that around a rookie quarterback.
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I'm just I'm not sold on borough because he came out of nowhere in one season.
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That's yeah, that's it.
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Hey, you last year, Don't get me wrong He played great last year, but I didn't see like consistency year after year after year of being a top quarterback.
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And I want to see that.
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And now he's going from college to the NFL, which means, you know, that's a massive step in timing and and understanding playbooks and everything.
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And that's a lot to put on a guy, especially someone, especially this season where you know he's not gonna have a lot of training camp time, right? So I just I don't like the idea of putting him in this situation for this year and expecting Very All right.
00:20:36
So should we get into the schedule, then? Sure.
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OK, so before we get started, let's just give R.
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J General, you know, as we always do, what we think we will predict for this team.
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And then, obviously, at the end, we'll see what the actual prediction is.
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So, Lawrence, what do you think that this team will be without looking at their schedule? Well, four and 12.
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All right, I am going to say six and 10.
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You came, so all right. Yeah.
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We'll go six and we'll go. Six.
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All right, so here ago, Week one, they open the season at home against the Los Angeles charges charges.
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Um, may.
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So I'm actually curious to see what you think about this game because they have Tyrod Taylor who I know.
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You're not a big fat.
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Um So what do you think about this game? Actually, I think the chargers have the better defense e by far, and they have some weapons.
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I I'm giving it to the Chargers just because I think they have a better overall team.
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I think the Bengals could legitimately score with them.
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I think it wouldn't like you said if it wasn't for their offensive life.
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I loved you mixing, and but the charges are gonna have that safety back.
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You know, that was hurt last season.
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Yes. Voter window. Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I'm gonna tend to agree with you here.
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I don't. I mean, this is week one.
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There's no preseason Joe Borough at opening against that Chargers defense.
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I don't like the matchup.
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I think the charges defense is pretty ****ed solid.
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And I think Tyronn Taylor should just be able to gain managed just enough and, ah, they should be able to get the win pretty easily.
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So, yeah, I'm gonna say they opened with loss.
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Yeah.
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Thank you.
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Borough and Joey both is gonna be on a first thing Be.
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Yeah, definitely. Definitely.
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That's you can definitely count on that in bed on that.
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All right, so then week to I believe if I'm reading this correctly, I think I am.
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Is the Cleveland Browns in Cleveland? The Battle of Ohio, I think, is what they call it.
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This is a prime time game.
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Um, I'm I don't know.
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The vehicles even make it over five.
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The Browns get 500 last year.
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Yeah, they were six and 10.
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The Browns? Yeah. Yeah.
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So they were sits in 10.
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And the Bengals were low.
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Two or two and 14 I believe. Okay.
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And neither.
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Neither team had a successful season yet.
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This is a prime time dead.
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It's It's the Battle of Ohio, man.
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What do you mean? Yeah, they got to give the Browns of prime time getting what you want, but anyway, um, it's Joe Borough versus Baker Mayfield.
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Maybe that's why, um, battle of number one overall picks.
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Anyway, uh, let me see.
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What did they play the Browns again? And be week 34567 You know what? That's later in the season.
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I'm gonna have the Bengal split.
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I'm gonna have the Browns win. Week two.
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I want to give the Bingle benefit of doubt and have them split as well.
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Okay, uh, that's just the benefit of the doubt.
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I think the Browns are a better team overall, offensively and defensively.
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But right, like they are the Browns, they are.
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The Brown will have yet to decide on whether or not they're going to be pulled together as it team like they should yet or not.
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Right, Right.
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All right. Week three.
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They have to go to Philly face against the Eagles.
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Um, no.
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Yeah, I know.
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I can't Men Unfortunately.
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So that's an L.
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So they start off own three.
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Here we go, though.
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It's week for it's a new beginning and it's the Jacksonville Jaguars coming into Cincinnati.
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This is the revenge game for last year.
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They lost 27 17.
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I think they get their first win and Joe Borough pulls it off against the Jacks.
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This is going to be the shortest lived celebration they have had in a long time.
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Because they're going to get, they're gonna go 13 and then they got to suitable.
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Oh, yeah.
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And honestly, it's not just that.
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I think they're going to get a a nasty beaten two weeks in a row.
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And that's the Ravens of the Colts.
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So I go to the Ravens, then go through the Colts.
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Okay, so I would say that's two losses in a row. Yeah.
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Um, okay.
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No, no explanation needed.
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I think everybody knows why, but you had the meeting the jacks, right? Yeah.
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OK, OK, so we At least we agree on that one.
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Okay, so then the browns again? I said they're splitting.
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And I think you did too.
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Yeah, I gave him the benefit of the doubt, right.
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I like it.
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I think that Joe Borough will start.
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He's coming off those ass beatings against the Ravens of the Colts.
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He's like, I got to do something, man.
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He's going to take it out on the Browns.
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I would love to see that.
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Okay.
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And then we got the tips for long.
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If he throws away from Denzel work.
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Oh, yeah, maybe there.
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Then we got the **** who were actually going to talk about very soon.
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Another alert? Um, no, I don't have them winning this one. Yeah.
00:26:07
No, this is that.
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This has got Derrick Henry written all over it.
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Just handed off to him the whole game.
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Don't even You don't even need Ryan Tannehill in this game.
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Then they have to go to Pittsburgh.
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Ooh, And you know what? I'm gonna have them split with the Steelers.
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However, I'm gonna have them went on the road.
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I think this is gonna be Joe Burrows game that he comes out and says. That's right.
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I am the man.
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We may not have the winds yet, but I will eventually.
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I'm gonna be Pittsburgh in Pittsburgh and take.
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And, I mean, maybe it won't happen.
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But I'm just going to say this.
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I think the Ravens and Pittsburgh both sweeping.
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Okay, it's enough.
00:26:51
Uh, but then the Bangles got to go to face the Washington football team.
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Um, and I think that Oh, these air just to really bad teams, to be honest by, um, I think I might go borough over Askins here, men in the quarterback matchup just for today.
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I think we're all I think Washington has a better team.
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Do you know what I think The Dingell's Kenly win this one? Because they have I I don't mean that they're both young.
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They both have very young teams.
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Washington has a better defense.
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I think the Bengals have a better offense.
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Yeah, and I think that this is a game you're midway through the season.
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I think that this is where he could start picking it up a little bit offensively, understanding his wide receivers, how they react on a start getting Ah, nice little, you know, understanding of this receivers and understanding of the offensive line and move around pocket a little bit better were brought around the pocket. US.
00:28:03
We probably expect.
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I think the jingles can win this game, so I'm going to give it to the video.
00:28:08
Nice.
00:28:09
I like it.
00:28:10
So we both agree on that one in that Who? They got the Giants and they got old Danny Jones coming to Cincinnati to visit.
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I'm actually going to give it to the Bangles here.
00:28:21
I think this is where we might disagree.
00:28:24
I think this is.
00:28:25
I think this is a huge disagreements, I think Sick, warm Barclays Just gonna eat him alive.
00:28:29
That's a good point.
00:28:31
That's definitely a good point.
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But I'm more thinking that I'm thinking that they're sick ones gonna start running the football really well against him.
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And the bagels are gonna drop 89 people in the box and try to stop the corn.
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And next thing you know, you realize Oh, yeah, Daniel Jones could just throw it over the top of the front seven to see Corn Barkley and watching run past.
00:28:53
All right, so it's just gonna be Barkley the whole game because They have no receivers, You know, They got some reason. No, they got ok.
00:29:01
Received. Thank God. All right.
00:29:03
I'm just saying Unequal.
00:29:04
Yeah.
00:29:06
Uh, what? This is a game that I can see Barkley taking over, and I think he could get 200 yards total out of this game.
00:29:13
Yeah, I don't think you're completely wrong on that.
00:29:17
Um, but I just think Joe Borough is gonna have a better game than Daniel Jones.
00:29:24
I do.
00:29:25
I think this is when we're going to start talking about in this offensive rookie of the year.
00:29:28
Okay, so then they got Miami.
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Um, they might be to a versus Burrow.
00:29:38
Right, cause this is towards the end of the season.
00:29:42
Week 14.
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Yep.
00:29:44
So, no, it's not we 40.
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It's, uh, 3 12 I actually I'm going to have to give it to the dolphins here.
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I think I think that that secondary is pretty **** underrated.
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And I think that Joe Burrows definitely gonna going to struggle with that.
00:30:01
I agree.
00:30:02
I like I like, uh, I like the dolphins here.
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I think like I said before, the dolphins are not where they want to be yet that they are moving in the positive direction where they want to go.
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They have a lot of pieces in right now.
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And if to was playing and he's been playing for, let's say, at least four weeks.
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Yep.
00:30:25
Let's say he's been playing for, at least for you.
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It makes Patrick starts into it comes in later.
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Then I think this is definitely a situation where I think to outplays Peru.
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Okay, fair enough.
00:30:38
I think we all agree on that.
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Then they got the boys, and this could be Andy Dalton's revenge game.
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Not just playing, but, um, yeah, the Cowboys.
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We're gonna win this one, man.
00:30:49
I don't even think this is worth any speculation here.
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Yeah, it's gonna be, what, 2001 odds be for bagels to win this Probably.
00:31:01
Yeah, this is This is cowboys all day.
00:31:03
All right, so then the Steelers and again, I said I had them splitting.
00:31:07
So actually have them losing this game.
00:31:08
And you said you have the Steelers sweeping them, right? Yes.
00:31:12
Okay, fair enough.
00:31:14
Um, Okay.
00:31:17
Next, we got the Texans in Houston.
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Okay? Yeah.
00:31:23
Yeah.
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Texans I got to give to To Sean Watson.
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It's Texans offense.
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is gonna be pretty darn good.
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It'll be all right.
00:31:32
It'll be all right.
00:31:33
I guess passing offense is gonna be pretty **** too.
00:31:37
But maybe I don't know.
00:31:40
Okay, so then they finish the season out with the Ravens in Cincinnati.
00:31:45
But guess what? I think the Ravens, they're gonna be 15 and go up into this point.
00:31:50
I think they're gonna rest everybody.
00:31:54
That's opposite of what you said.
00:31:56
You get last time. Come on.
00:31:59
Just making it up.
00:32:00
Just giving more wins.
00:32:02
All right, fine.
00:32:03
Even if I think they're gonna play their fourth stringers and I think the Ravens will still win, so I I have no problem with that.
00:32:13
Okay? I think the Ravens could beat this team with their defense playing offense.
00:32:19
Oh, throwing Brandon Williams a quarterback or something and see what happens down there for over what got her mystery.
00:32:28
That that's a good point.
00:32:29
All right, so let's go through this schedule, men.
00:32:32
And let's not forget, I believe that Lawrence had the MIT foreign 12.
00:32:36
I think I said six and 10.
00:32:38
So let's see what the actual results are for Lawrence.
00:32:43
Oh, you have a total of three wins So they you have them going three and 13 Now, I'm not saying that they can't win for five or six games.
00:32:53
I just want I see You know what I'm saying? I mean, the season moves funny and from one week to another game to look different.
00:33:03
So, yeah, some things get on hot streaks or bad strips and you got members throughout the season, you know, stuff like that.
00:33:10
So you only have them winning one more game than last year with a new quarterback s.
00:33:15
So they could very well be the number one overall pick again.
00:33:19
To be fair there, their debts is pretty bad, and their starters on the contain all that great either.
00:33:26
So that's a good point, all right? And I have them going five and 11.
00:33:32
So but there was at least one game that I was kind of either way on, so I was pretty much right in my prediction.
00:33:40
But I mean, there you go.
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I haven't going five and 11.
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I think there were there was at least one or two games.
00:33:46
Like I said, that you could see them pulling out, so I don't think seven and nine is too crazy.
00:33:51
I don't think it's outlandish.
00:33:54
Yeah, I don't think five and 11 is healthy, but that's it. That's Max.
00:34:01
Okay, fair enough.
00:34:03
Well Ah, Any closing thoughts here, Lawrence? Before we move on to the next, I think that the biggest issue right now with Cincinnati is how they're building their team.
00:34:15
I think that they need that.
00:34:17
They need their front office to start building for the future input weapons.
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Now, I think they did a good job.
00:34:26
Uh, quarterback, wide receiver.
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They got their running back that they need now they need to start working on offensive line.
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They also need to get some linebacker's coverage.
00:34:35
Guys, I think they just need to start pulling together and doing a good job at putting their team together.
00:34:42
Because, like I said over the last four or five years, they terrible, right? Uh, back when, uh, the Red Rifle and a J. Green.
00:34:54
And all of them were were top, though.
00:34:56
Wouldn't they talk about good? They were going to the playoffs all the time.
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At least they were.
00:35:00
They were continually adding decent players, and then they started leaving the team because they weren't being ran Well, you know, good players were just walking right out the door.
00:35:15
You got.
00:35:16
You gotta bring this around for the Bengals to be better than what I just got done saying 5 11 You kept fair enough.
00:35:24
Alright, guys.
00:35:25
Well, that's how we feel about the Bangles.
00:35:26
Obviously, Ravens and Colts fan.
00:35:28
I mean, but we're kind of down on them, but that's just how it's gonna be.
00:35:32
I think if our other co host was here, he would probably also be down on the because he's not a big job borough guy either.
00:35:38
So, um, however, guys shout out to Let's see who we got paste me, Austin, Jerry's kid.
00:35:46
We're gonna call your dad and Jerry Jerry's kit anyway.
00:35:50
M finally, I probably didn't see that right Bull runnings, and that's it.
00:35:55
That's all I see.
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And of course, Laurence and myself.
00:35:59
Guys, thank you all shadow to all of you for being on this stream.
00:36:03
However, there is more of you in this stream and you guys, I don't see your name.
00:36:08
So, Lawrence, why don't you tell them what they can do? And then after they do that, they can join us on our other stream, which is going to go up in about two minutes.
00:36:17
So but what do they do first, Lawrence, you got like, four or five people are here.
00:36:20
I see 63 peat.
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64 people now watching TV.
00:36:24
Got 60.
00:36:25
People don't have profiles.
00:36:26
Go right up here right up past the C P.
00:36:30
Little thing and my finger or love, but little three lines with little red got hit that sucker man scrolled out.
00:36:37
It'll say, make a profile log in.
00:36:40
Use Facebook.
00:36:41
Twitter Really quick.
00:36:43
Really easy money.
00:36:45
Easy, easy, easy Click it. Make your profile.
00:36:48
Put a name and family done finished, and then come back and give Joe follow.
00:36:54
Give me a follow and then you'll be notified.
00:36:57
Like he said in two minutes.
00:36:59
Yep.
00:37:00
Okay.
00:37:01
Joes lying again.
00:37:02
So I'm joined us as we talk about the Titans.
00:37:06
Yep. So stay tuned, guys.
00:37:08
We're gonna be preview

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All right, so I'm assuming working, Running.
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What's going on, everybody? My name is Joe.
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New Beau alongside me.
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We got my guy, Lawrence O.
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And we are SportsCastr news again.
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We're done a man.
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And because Ray is still on vacation as we are over here busting our cuts and my man Ray is over there enjoying himself s you probably should in life.
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But anyway, so today, Lawrence, we are discussing the Cincinnati Bangles, a team that I hold dear and close to my heart because they, of course, are in the Ravens division.
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And, uh, you know, the Bengals for a while I was, you know, I pretty much I got to say that I hated them because they were just always beating us like they had our number for a cool while.
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But lately, ever since Lamar came to the team were, ah, three, you know against I believe so.
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I hope that continues.
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I think it will continue, but ah, yeah.
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I mean, I've always had that hatred for the Bengals, but anyway, that's nowhere we're talking about.
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What we are talking about is what we think about this Bengal sea, and let me just say, Lawrence, I know that you and Ray are not super hot on Joe Borough.
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At least as much as I am.
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I think he's gonna be pretty darn good.
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I think he has a chance to be offensive rookie of the year.
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Um, but the thing is, he did go to Cincinnati, which I mean isn't necessarily I wouldn't put them in.
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I wouldn't say they're the worst of the worst organization wise.
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But, I mean, I still think that you would rank them at the bottom.
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Um, so you know, that's and it's just another situation.
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Kind of like Sam Donald going to the Jets.
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You know, Dwayne Haskins going to Washington and that type of stuff.
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But before I get too far into it, I want to get into your thoughts on this team as a whole.
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Are you feeling, you know, kind of How do you feel about this team in general this year? I think this team's bottomed lower still, and there's a reason for that.
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Uh, when a team picks number one in a draft.
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When was the last time you ever seen a team picked number one in the draft and then I remember, one pick is a quarterback, and then that following year, they become relevant in any possible way.
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It's usually two or three years later, but that's something like that.
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Happens right as suspects.
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I mean, generally, when you're picking number one, that means you have way too many holes, you know, on your team.
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And there's way too many holes for your team to be able to fill the of the draft and free agency in one season.
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And was the last time you seen a quarterback pick number one that had a great rookie year? Yeah, that's it.
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I'm actually looking that up right now, because now that you brought that up, I was curious as well.
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So, uh, So Kyler Mary, last year and the car, would you say he was great? I mean, he had okay season? No, I think you had a good season, but I'm just talking about pure winds.
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Let's see.
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Yeah.
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How many wins did they have last year? Let's, uh, sorry.
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Oh, were they 5 10 and one? Was this That OK? Yeah.
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So there you go.
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I mean, what about Let's see who else we got? Baker.
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What did they go 78 and one.
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I believe I actually remember that.
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Um, Jared Goff was also in 2016.
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And let's see what the Rams were just cause I'm curious.
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I mean, we have time on this stream, so we might as well.
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Yeah.
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Uh, Let's see, some 2016 rams they went for in 12 after they drafted Jared Goff.
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But he didn't start all the games, But still, that's not what we're talking about.
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Um, and then there was Andrew Luck.
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Do you remember how you guys did into that? Fully actually, that when I think he he asked, you guys went to the playoffs? I remember.
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Okay, so that was the last time.
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That was the last time that I was right here.
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And I'm here now.
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Yeah, nine years ago, that happened.
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And that was coming off a team that, um you had some pieces.
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Their you know, uh, it was they were going through a big rebuild face, but it was like a one year rebuild.
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Because of what? That situation with a little bit different, right? I mean, two years prior, they were like a are a playoff team, you know, a perennial playoff team, and they still have pieces from that team.
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And that's something a little bit different than trying to start completely over fresh.
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The way Cincinnati is doing right now, very, very rarely very hurt, would you? I mean, enjoyable up.
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Knew everybody knew when Andrew luck with coming out, that he was going to be a top quarterback in the league.
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I mean, very years before he was drafted, right, and then they knew.
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And then Joe Borough.
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When he comes the year prior to him being drafted, nobody knew who the heck iwas Right.
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So there a lot of people, they got to realize that that when you pick a quarterback number one in a draft, most likely your next following season's not gonna be that good unless you had a solid team behind him before you got it, you know, and just was very unlucky that previous year due to injuries or something like that.
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That's what happened the previous year with Colts.
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You know Peyton Manning had the neck injury and was out for the season.
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That's what happened.
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So but Cincinnati is not walking into that situation.
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Cincinnati's opening with a really bad wall stir well.
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But see, I don't think their roster is as bad as a lot of people make it out to be.
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I think it's not the worst.
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You know, I think their defense is the worst in the NFL.
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No, I mean, I think they're gonna improve.
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I mean, that front front four is pretty nasty start.
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It's amazing.
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Their front door was so good luck.
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You know, it is good.
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And yet they gave up more rushing. Urgent.
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Any other football team in the Yeah.
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I mean, they don't have linebackers, so that's that's the problem.
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Everything that they're going to run into and And there's defense wasn't good, either, right? And I mean, they really only have two really good players in the secondary and Jesse Bates and William Jackson.
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But aside from that, I'd say you just have average solid players at best.
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Um, and of course, the linebackers are definitely something to worry about.
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I mean, Josh Bynes, who I thought played really well for the Ravens last year, is there starting middle linebacker, So I mean, we'll see.
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That's kind of an experiment.
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Veteran linebacker.
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We'll see how that goes, and then they just got young guys playing.
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Aside from that, it's just not really.
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I don't feel good about that.
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And then the offensive line, obviously, is still pretty bad.
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Um, but as I've said, man, this offense, if they had a good offensive line, they could do damage.
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They could do damage.
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I love you.
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I like Joe Mixon as a running back junior, your Bonnie.
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But art isn't that terrible of, ah, running back, I think A. J. Green.
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Right now, I think you kind of got a mark him off because he has been healthy and three season, right? Yeah, I guess.
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I guess I'll see.
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I'll believe it when I see it.
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Yeah, that whole.
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He's got to show up for me to see that he's working on right now.
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Yeah, but I mean, even if you do cross out a J.
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Green, they still have Tyler Boyd.
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John Ross.
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If he just even just as a staff as a decoy deep threat audio tape, who's pretty **** solid T.
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Higgins.
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They just drafted him this past season, Alex Eric said.
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They are deep at one fever, So even if you say oh, let's just get rid of a J Green have the depth.
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I think their best, I think our best wide receiver right now. Tekin.
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Interesting.
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Uh, John Ross really hasn't done that much, you know, he should out.
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He's got the superstars.
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Speed Boy is OK.
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I don't think he's I mean, he's not a top 10 receiver in the league.
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Like to hit.
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It has the ability to be, um I think T.
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Higgins is as close to DeAndre Hopkins as you can get as a rookie.
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Um, he had almost the that scene.
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That what, like combine numbers that that, um, Coppins has.
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And he has a very similar place. Valleys.
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He's known for that 50 50 sure handed kind of catch guy.
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Um, I think he Higgins has a chance to become a very, very big receiver in the NFL.
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Is one of my favorite.
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Once it came out in the draft, C j.
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Tomorrow. He's not bad.
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He's okay.
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Bombed Their tight ends are just okay at best.
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I I don't think this team has the firepower.
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You put up enough points to overcome though the defensive flaws idea what we don't.
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I think this could be a team that if Joe Borough is what I think he is.
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He can put this team on his back, and he's going to get some surprising winds, some shocking winds.
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I think everybody sees this team is like a 451 team.
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I have him a little better, maybe six, maybe seven if Joe Bro really goes off.
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But yeah, aside from that, I don't see them having a winning season.
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Unfortunately, I put the max number of wins for this team at seven, and even that may be on the higher side.
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But I think, realistically, for me, I would say six and 10.
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And this is before even looking at schedule.
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Looking at five and 11. Max.
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Okay, Max five and 11.
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You heard it here first.
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Lawrence has been the rial, pessimistic one. As of late.
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I feel like usually it's the other way around.
00:10:00
I'm the one, that's all.
00:10:02
Well, it's it's really it's based on, you know, I go by history, you know.
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Also, you know, it's not just I don't look at and have gut feelings.
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Um, Omar looking how teams have done in the past as well, you know, in this team just has not had a good run over the last four or five years, right? And they're going through a complete overhaul right now, so I just I don't see it.
00:10:30
I could see them in two or three years being competitive in their division, you know, especially a Pittsburgh continues to move down the list, but I think that I think they're gonna because I think this offense has a lot of firepower.
00:10:45
But obviously the main thing holding them back, like I said, is that offensive line.
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I would have a lot more confidence if they at least had an average offensive line.
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Like just have average players.
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But you have crap, Um, so that's a huge concern.
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But I think potentially you could face up against the team against a team and we're gonna see who they play, you know, week after week, you're pretty soon.
00:11:08
Potentially, they could face a week that doesn't have the strongest defensive line right.
00:11:12
They don't have the strongest pass rushers, and maybe the offensive line holds up, get your receivers going, get some big plays.
00:11:19
Joe Borough Joe mix and runs the ball.
00:11:22
They could put a points here, man.
00:11:24
I really think that they could put a points.
00:11:30
It's just a young team, and offensively they have a lot of young talent outside of A J.
00:11:37
Green and youth does not always mean, uh, wins.
00:11:45
You know, like I say, generally your rookies, they generally don't do well.
00:11:50
Their first, especially quarterbacks and wide receivers.
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They generally don't do well their first season, you know.
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And when I I think a J.
00:11:57
Green is their number one receiver right now because of the fact that you know what the way a.
00:12:02
J.
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Green's been, um, what we had, what 2000 yard receivers last year that were rookies, I think, Um and that was it.
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And that was a pretty decent draft classroom receivers as well.
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It wasn't quite as defense this year, but it was a good draft.
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It was, um, and we only had 2000 yard receivers that were rookies, quarterback wise, rookie wise.
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You know, you had a couple that were okay.
00:12:31
You had more of your surprised people, right? Like Daniel Jones, like your gardener mentions, you know, that that came out and actually over performed what their expectations were.
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Whereas some of your top guys, you were looking at going well.
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I thought they do better now.
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You got to remember.
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Like I said earlier, When you're picking that high and your want a quarterback, that obviously means that you've got way more problems than just one person.
00:13:00
I hear you.
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They also had a new head coach, you know that.
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So there was that whole thing, But I actually want to go back to their last year schedule.
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And I mean, some of these are blowouts.
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Like Week two against the 40 Niners.
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They just got destroyed 41 to 17.
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But in week one 21 to 20 Seahawks just edged it out against the Bills.
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21 to 17.
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Pretty close.
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Um, Steelers demolished them.
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Cardinals 26 23 close their, um they kept it close against the Ravens.
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I was at that game.
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I remember that.
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That was just crazy.
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How they kept a close.
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Jags beat him by 10 Rams beating by 40.
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That's when they really okay.
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That's when they really started getting terrible.
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Lost by seven of the Raiders of the problem, huh? When the Jaguars beat you bad when there's a problem? Yeah, lost by six to the Steelers beat the Jets, 22 6 staying but right a lot of by eight to the Browns got demolished by the Pats.
00:14:03
Oh, lost in overtime to the Dolphins, my three and then lost and then beat the Browns by 10 points.
00:14:10
So I mean, there there's some close games in their men.
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I mean, there's a difference between five and 11 and two and 14 right along a lot of those games.
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A lot of your close and you're close games were divisional games, you know, games that you didn't expect them to come.
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And when you're talking divisional games, anything can happen because teams know each other so well, so I'll give him that.
00:14:37
It is just like what you said you was there with the whole When they played the Ravens, they were like, While I can't believe they're still in this game, they know you expect that, you know, you walk in thinking, but we're a better team.
00:14:49
We should be them.
00:14:50
But there is no there is never a point where your life there is no way this team can beat us, right? As you know, it's a divisional game, right? So yeah, no.
00:15:02
And it's funny.
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There's a funny story about that game because, like I said, that was the first time I went to Baltimore to watch a game there.
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That was that game.
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Um, the opening had an Kwan Boldin announcing to everybody that he was retiring a rave in, and that was obviously huge news because that was the first time he had ever said it.
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So everybody was super hyped.
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And then kickoff starts, whistle blows and everything, and then it's a kickoff return for a touchdown for the Bengals.
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They go up immediately, like the first place on my oh my God, and every the wind just went out of the stadium of Light.
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Oh, this is how we're going to start this game, My first game in Baltimore.
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This is how it's gonna start.
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But luckily, we were able to win that game.
00:15:43
So anyway, yeah, man, this Bangles team like I think I would have a lot more confidence in this offense.
00:15:50
Like I said, if they just had an average offensive line, that's seriously or if they can at least play higher than what they've showed us that they can play, you know? Um and again the defense I don't think is the worst in the league.
00:16:05
I wouldn't say that, but they are definitely down there.
00:16:09
I mean, you have a great defensive line.
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Secondary is still, in my opinion, not there.
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Um, you know, I'm not super high on Trae Waynes.
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Um, you have Alexander.
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You have some question marks there, in my opinion.
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And Vonn Bell is just all right, in my opinion, So yeah, he's just shy.
00:16:29
And then, of course, the linebackers air.
00:16:31
Really? I mean, they've been a weakness for the Bengals for.
00:16:34
Feels like a a long time, so yeah, the defense does definitely concern me, but I think the Bengals could potentially get into some shootouts with this offense.
00:16:44
Man, I'm telling you, I just I'm just I'm looking at this now.
00:16:48
Think about this, okay? Cincinnati gave up over 3900 yards in the air last year, and that wasn't their worst part.
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The worst part was yeah, they only okay, they came about almost 2400 yards on the ground, 2400 yards rushing on the ground.
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Most of that was really the Ravens.
00:17:14
Good gracious.
00:17:15
Well, they they averaged 4.
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7 yards gave up 4.
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7 yards a carry, which isn't the worst in the league.
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And I think it was like fourth or fifth worst in the league, but still 4.
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7 yards on the ground.
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You go up against a team that can run the ball well, obviously, they're they're in trouble and they play a lot of teams this year that run the ball very, very well.
00:17:34
Yeah, I mean, look at their division, right? All three other teams run the ball really well.
00:17:39
I mean, provided the Steelers can, but I think they can.
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But yeah, you definitely don't want to have someone like Josh Bynes back there.
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I mean, not to say he's a bad player, because, like I said, I thought he played really well.
00:17:51
But against Lamar Jackson, I don't like that matchup whatsoever.
00:17:55
Um, they did pick up somebody in the off season that I think will help a little bit against the run.
00:18:01
And that's deejay reader.
00:18:02
Yes, that's right, Houston.
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That was their big signing up.
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He's actually Ah good at taking on double teams and freeing up people, and that will allow Gino actions right beside him and Gino actions is, uh, hot for defensive linemen in the NFL, right? Just a beast.
00:18:22
And he's needed someone beside him this whole time they had Carlos Dunlap, but he's not all that great.
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In my opinion, he's okay as a pass rusher, but, uh, not the greatest against the run.
00:18:33
Sure Gino is, but he needed somebody to help take blocks away from him and D J readers.
00:18:41
Yeah, that was a great signing for sure.
00:18:43
That was definitely agreed standing.
00:18:45
Um, but again, I think if they That's why if they go up against teams that have a quarterback that holds the ball too long, you know, they could potentially have some success with that defensive line defensively.
00:18:58
But of course, unless the quarterback just looks to the right and it's like, Oh, Trae Waynes is on that guy.
00:19:03
So let me just throw it him.
00:19:05
He's probably gonna be open, right? So anyway, well, I don't even think straight wins.
00:19:10
A sign is I just throw over the middle.
00:19:16
Yeah, every time, just throw over the middle or run up the middle.
00:19:20
Yeah. Um but yeah.
00:19:22
I mean, there are still concerns about this team Obviously, I think they I don't like you said.
00:19:29
I don't think this is the year I still think that.
00:19:35
Did you just get some protection for this guy? Man just gets like, Seriously, I know you drafted Joan Williams and we'll see what you're hoping he is the starting left tackle.
00:19:44
But aside from that, I mean, it's a bunch of projects.
00:19:47
It's a bunch of, you know, we'll see, and it's just you don't want to have that around a rookie quarterback.
00:19:53
I'm just I'm not sold on borough because he came out of nowhere in one season.
00:19:57
That's yeah, that's it.
00:19:58
Hey, you last year, Don't get me wrong He played great last year, but I didn't see like consistency year after year after year of being a top quarterback.
00:20:07
And I want to see that.
00:20:09
And now he's going from college to the NFL, which means, you know, that's a massive step in timing and and understanding playbooks and everything.
00:20:19
And that's a lot to put on a guy, especially someone, especially this season where you know he's not gonna have a lot of training camp time, right? So I just I don't like the idea of putting him in this situation for this year and expecting Very All right.
00:20:36
So should we get into the schedule, then? Sure.
00:20:40
OK, so before we get started, let's just give R.
00:20:44
J General, you know, as we always do, what we think we will predict for this team.
00:20:50
And then, obviously, at the end, we'll see what the actual prediction is.
00:20:53
So, Lawrence, what do you think that this team will be without looking at their schedule? Well, four and 12.
00:21:01
All right, I am going to say six and 10.
00:21:05
You came, so all right. Yeah.
00:21:09
We'll go six and we'll go. Six.
00:21:11
All right, so here ago, Week one, they open the season at home against the Los Angeles charges charges.
00:21:21
Um, may.
00:21:24
So I'm actually curious to see what you think about this game because they have Tyrod Taylor who I know.
00:21:30
You're not a big fat.
00:21:31
Um So what do you think about this game? Actually, I think the chargers have the better defense e by far, and they have some weapons.
00:21:40
I I'm giving it to the Chargers just because I think they have a better overall team.
00:21:48
I think the Bengals could legitimately score with them.
00:21:54
I think it wouldn't like you said if it wasn't for their offensive life.
00:21:58
I loved you mixing, and but the charges are gonna have that safety back.
00:22:05
You know, that was hurt last season.
00:22:07
Yes. Voter window. Yeah.
00:22:09
Yeah.
00:22:10
I'm gonna tend to agree with you here.
00:22:12
I don't. I mean, this is week one.
00:22:14
There's no preseason Joe Borough at opening against that Chargers defense.
00:22:18
I don't like the matchup.
00:22:19
I think the charges defense is pretty ****ed solid.
00:22:22
And I think Tyronn Taylor should just be able to gain managed just enough and, ah, they should be able to get the win pretty easily.
00:22:29
So, yeah, I'm gonna say they opened with loss.
00:22:31
Yeah.
00:22:32
Thank you.
00:22:33
Borough and Joey both is gonna be on a first thing Be.
00:22:36
Yeah, definitely. Definitely.
00:22:38
That's you can definitely count on that in bed on that.
00:22:40
All right, so then week to I believe if I'm reading this correctly, I think I am.
00:22:46
Is the Cleveland Browns in Cleveland? The Battle of Ohio, I think, is what they call it.
00:22:51
This is a prime time game.
00:22:54
Um, I'm I don't know.
00:22:58
The vehicles even make it over five.
00:23:01
The Browns get 500 last year.
00:23:04
Yeah, they were six and 10.
00:23:06
The Browns? Yeah. Yeah.
00:23:08
So they were sits in 10.
00:23:10
And the Bengals were low.
00:23:11
Two or two and 14 I believe. Okay.
00:23:14
And neither.
00:23:15
Neither team had a successful season yet.
00:23:17
This is a prime time dead.
00:23:19
It's It's the Battle of Ohio, man.
00:23:20
What do you mean? Yeah, they got to give the Browns of prime time getting what you want, but anyway, um, it's Joe Borough versus Baker Mayfield.
00:23:31
Maybe that's why, um, battle of number one overall picks.
00:23:35
Anyway, uh, let me see.
00:23:39
What did they play the Browns again? And be week 34567 You know what? That's later in the season.
00:23:46
I'm gonna have the Bengal split.
00:23:48
I'm gonna have the Browns win. Week two.
00:23:52
I want to give the Bingle benefit of doubt and have them split as well.
00:23:55
Okay, uh, that's just the benefit of the doubt.
00:23:58
I think the Browns are a better team overall, offensively and defensively.
00:24:03
But right, like they are the Browns, they are.
00:24:06
The Brown will have yet to decide on whether or not they're going to be pulled together as it team like they should yet or not.
00:24:13
Right, Right.
00:24:15
All right. Week three.
00:24:16
They have to go to Philly face against the Eagles.
00:24:20
Um, no.
00:24:22
Yeah, I know.
00:24:23
I can't Men Unfortunately.
00:24:26
So that's an L.
00:24:27
So they start off own three.
00:24:30
Here we go, though.
00:24:31
It's week for it's a new beginning and it's the Jacksonville Jaguars coming into Cincinnati.
00:24:37
This is the revenge game for last year.
00:24:39
They lost 27 17.
00:24:41
I think they get their first win and Joe Borough pulls it off against the Jacks.
00:24:46
This is going to be the shortest lived celebration they have had in a long time.
00:24:51
Because they're going to get, they're gonna go 13 and then they got to suitable.
00:24:57
Oh, yeah.
00:25:00
And honestly, it's not just that.
00:25:03
I think they're going to get a a nasty beaten two weeks in a row.
00:25:08
And that's the Ravens of the Colts.
00:25:10
So I go to the Ravens, then go through the Colts.
00:25:13
Okay, so I would say that's two losses in a row. Yeah.
00:25:17
Um, okay.
00:25:19
No, no explanation needed.
00:25:20
I think everybody knows why, but you had the meeting the jacks, right? Yeah.
00:25:24
OK, OK, so we At least we agree on that one.
00:25:27
Okay, so then the browns again? I said they're splitting.
00:25:30
And I think you did too.
00:25:32
Yeah, I gave him the benefit of the doubt, right.
00:25:34
I like it.
00:25:35
I think that Joe Borough will start.
00:25:37
He's coming off those ass beatings against the Ravens of the Colts.
00:25:41
He's like, I got to do something, man.
00:25:43
He's going to take it out on the Browns.
00:25:45
I would love to see that.
00:25:47
Okay.
00:25:48
And then we got the tips for long.
00:25:51
If he throws away from Denzel work.
00:25:54
Oh, yeah, maybe there.
00:25:56
Then we got the **** who were actually going to talk about very soon.
00:26:00
Another alert? Um, no, I don't have them winning this one. Yeah.
00:26:07
No, this is that.
00:26:08
This has got Derrick Henry written all over it.
00:26:11
Just handed off to him the whole game.
00:26:13
Don't even You don't even need Ryan Tannehill in this game.
00:26:18
Then they have to go to Pittsburgh.
00:26:19
Ooh, And you know what? I'm gonna have them split with the Steelers.
00:26:26
However, I'm gonna have them went on the road.
00:26:29
I think this is gonna be Joe Burrows game that he comes out and says. That's right.
00:26:35
I am the man.
00:26:36
We may not have the winds yet, but I will eventually.
00:26:39
I'm gonna be Pittsburgh in Pittsburgh and take.
00:26:42
And, I mean, maybe it won't happen.
00:26:44
But I'm just going to say this.
00:26:47
I think the Ravens and Pittsburgh both sweeping.
00:26:49
Okay, it's enough.
00:26:51
Uh, but then the Bangles got to go to face the Washington football team.
00:26:57
Um, and I think that Oh, these air just to really bad teams, to be honest by, um, I think I might go borough over Askins here, men in the quarterback matchup just for today.
00:27:12
I think we're all I think Washington has a better team.
00:27:15
Do you know what I think The Dingell's Kenly win this one? Because they have I I don't mean that they're both young.
00:27:26
They both have very young teams.
00:27:29
Washington has a better defense.
00:27:31
I think the Bengals have a better offense.
00:27:34
Yeah, and I think that this is a game you're midway through the season.
00:27:39
I think that this is where he could start picking it up a little bit offensively, understanding his wide receivers, how they react on a start getting Ah, nice little, you know, understanding of this receivers and understanding of the offensive line and move around pocket a little bit better were brought around the pocket. US.
00:28:03
We probably expect.
00:28:04
I think the jingles can win this game, so I'm going to give it to the video.
00:28:08
Nice.
00:28:09
I like it.
00:28:10
So we both agree on that one in that Who? They got the Giants and they got old Danny Jones coming to Cincinnati to visit.
00:28:19
I'm actually going to give it to the Bangles here.
00:28:21
I think this is where we might disagree.
00:28:24
I think this is.
00:28:25
I think this is a huge disagreements, I think Sick, warm Barclays Just gonna eat him alive.
00:28:29
That's a good point.
00:28:31
That's definitely a good point.
00:28:33
But I'm more thinking that I'm thinking that they're sick ones gonna start running the football really well against him.
00:28:40
And the bagels are gonna drop 89 people in the box and try to stop the corn.
00:28:44
And next thing you know, you realize Oh, yeah, Daniel Jones could just throw it over the top of the front seven to see Corn Barkley and watching run past.
00:28:53
All right, so it's just gonna be Barkley the whole game because They have no receivers, You know, They got some reason. No, they got ok.
00:29:01
Received. Thank God. All right.
00:29:03
I'm just saying Unequal.
00:29:04
Yeah.
00:29:06
Uh, what? This is a game that I can see Barkley taking over, and I think he could get 200 yards total out of this game.
00:29:13
Yeah, I don't think you're completely wrong on that.
00:29:17
Um, but I just think Joe Borough is gonna have a better game than Daniel Jones.
00:29:24
I do.
00:29:25
I think this is when we're going to start talking about in this offensive rookie of the year.
00:29:28
Okay, so then they got Miami.
00:29:35
Um, they might be to a versus Burrow.
00:29:38
Right, cause this is towards the end of the season.
00:29:42
Week 14.
00:29:43
Yep.
00:29:44
So, no, it's not we 40.
00:29:47
It's, uh, 3 12 I actually I'm going to have to give it to the dolphins here.
00:29:52
I think I think that that secondary is pretty **** underrated.
00:29:57
And I think that Joe Burrows definitely gonna going to struggle with that.
00:30:01
I agree.
00:30:02
I like I like, uh, I like the dolphins here.
00:30:05
I think like I said before, the dolphins are not where they want to be yet that they are moving in the positive direction where they want to go.
00:30:15
They have a lot of pieces in right now.
00:30:18
And if to was playing and he's been playing for, let's say, at least four weeks.
00:30:24
Yep.
00:30:25
Let's say he's been playing for, at least for you.
00:30:27
It makes Patrick starts into it comes in later.
00:30:32
Then I think this is definitely a situation where I think to outplays Peru.
00:30:37
Okay, fair enough.
00:30:38
I think we all agree on that.
00:30:40
Then they got the boys, and this could be Andy Dalton's revenge game.
00:30:45
Not just playing, but, um, yeah, the Cowboys.
00:30:48
We're gonna win this one, man.
00:30:49
I don't even think this is worth any speculation here.
00:30:54
Yeah, it's gonna be, what, 2001 odds be for bagels to win this Probably.
00:31:01
Yeah, this is This is cowboys all day.
00:31:03
All right, so then the Steelers and again, I said I had them splitting.
00:31:07
So actually have them losing this game.
00:31:08
And you said you have the Steelers sweeping them, right? Yes.
00:31:12
Okay, fair enough.
00:31:14
Um, Okay.
00:31:17
Next, we got the Texans in Houston.
00:31:20
Okay? Yeah.
00:31:23
Yeah.
00:31:24
Texans I got to give to To Sean Watson.
00:31:27
It's Texans offense.
00:31:28
is gonna be pretty darn good.
00:31:31
It'll be all right.
00:31:32
It'll be all right.
00:31:33
I guess passing offense is gonna be pretty **** too.
00:31:37
But maybe I don't know.
00:31:40
Okay, so then they finish the season out with the Ravens in Cincinnati.
00:31:45
But guess what? I think the Ravens, they're gonna be 15 and go up into this point.
00:31:50
I think they're gonna rest everybody.
00:31:54
That's opposite of what you said.
00:31:56
You get last time. Come on.
00:31:59
Just making it up.
00:32:00
Just giving more wins.
00:32:02
All right, fine.
00:32:03
Even if I think they're gonna play their fourth stringers and I think the Ravens will still win, so I I have no problem with that.
00:32:13
Okay? I think the Ravens could beat this team with their defense playing offense.
00:32:19
Oh, throwing Brandon Williams a quarterback or something and see what happens down there for over what got her mystery.
00:32:28
That that's a good point.
00:32:29
All right, so let's go through this schedule, men.
00:32:32
And let's not forget, I believe that Lawrence had the MIT foreign 12.
00:32:36
I think I said six and 10.
00:32:38
So let's see what the actual results are for Lawrence.
00:32:43
Oh, you have a total of three wins So they you have them going three and 13 Now, I'm not saying that they can't win for five or six games.
00:32:53
I just want I see You know what I'm saying? I mean, the season moves funny and from one week to another game to look different.
00:33:03
So, yeah, some things get on hot streaks or bad strips and you got members throughout the season, you know, stuff like that.
00:33:10
So you only have them winning one more game than last year with a new quarterback s.
00:33:15
So they could very well be the number one overall pick again.
00:33:19
To be fair there, their debts is pretty bad, and their starters on the contain all that great either.
00:33:26
So that's a good point, all right? And I have them going five and 11.
00:33:32
So but there was at least one game that I was kind of either way on, so I was pretty much right in my prediction.
00:33:40
But I mean, there you go.
00:33:41
I haven't going five and 11.
00:33:42
I think there were there was at least one or two games.
00:33:46
Like I said, that you could see them pulling out, so I don't think seven and nine is too crazy.
00:33:51
I don't think it's outlandish.
00:33:54
Yeah, I don't think five and 11 is healthy, but that's it. That's Max.
00:34:01
Okay, fair enough.
00:34:03
Well Ah, Any closing thoughts here, Lawrence? Before we move on to the next, I think that the biggest issue right now with Cincinnati is how they're building their team.
00:34:15
I think that they need that.
00:34:17
They need their front office to start building for the future input weapons.
00:34:24
Now, I think they did a good job.
00:34:26
Uh, quarterback, wide receiver.
00:34:29
They got their running back that they need now they need to start working on offensive line.
00:34:33
They also need to get some linebacker's coverage.
00:34:35
Guys, I think they just need to start pulling together and doing a good job at putting their team together.
00:34:42
Because, like I said over the last four or five years, they terrible, right? Uh, back when, uh, the Red Rifle and a J. Green.
00:34:54
And all of them were were top, though.
00:34:56
Wouldn't they talk about good? They were going to the playoffs all the time.
00:34:59
At least they were.
00:35:00
They were continually adding decent players, and then they started leaving the team because they weren't being ran Well, you know, good players were just walking right out the door.
00:35:15
You got.
00:35:16
You gotta bring this around for the Bengals to be better than what I just got done saying 5 11 You kept fair enough.
00:35:24
Alright, guys.
00:35:25
Well, that's how we feel about the Bangles.
00:35:26
Obviously, Ravens and Colts fan.
00:35:28
I mean, but we're kind of down on them, but that's just how it's gonna be.
00:35:32
I think if our other co host was here, he would probably also be down on the because he's not a big job borough guy either.
00:35:38
So, um, however, guys shout out to Let's see who we got paste me, Austin, Jerry's kid.
00:35:46
We're gonna call your dad and Jerry Jerry's kit anyway.
00:35:50
M finally, I probably didn't see that right Bull runnings, and that's it.
00:35:55
That's all I see.
00:35:56
And of course, Laurence and myself.
00:35:59
Guys, thank you all shadow to all of you for being on this stream.
00:36:03
However, there is more of you in this stream and you guys, I don't see your name.
00:36:08
So, Lawrence, why don't you tell them what they can do? And then after they do that, they can join us on our other stream, which is going to go up in about two minutes.
00:36:17
So but what do they do first, Lawrence, you got like, four or five people are here.
00:36:20
I see 63 peat.
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64 people now watching TV.
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Got 60.
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People don't have profiles.
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Go right up here right up past the C P.
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Little thing and my finger or love, but little three lines with little red got hit that sucker man scrolled out.
00:36:37
It'll say, make a profile log in.
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Use Facebook.
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Twitter Really quick.
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Really easy money.
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Easy, easy, easy Click it. Make your profile.
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Put a name and family done finished, and then come back and give Joe follow.
00:36:54
Give me a follow and then you'll be notified.
00:36:57
Like he said in two minutes.
00:36:59
Yep.
00:37:00
Okay.
00:37:01
Joes lying again.
00:37:02
So I'm joined us as we talk about the Titans.
00:37:06
Yep. So stay tuned, guys.
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