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So today's big topic, as everybody in the NFL world knows yesterday, Jamal Adams was finally traded.
Adam Gates said here, Seattle, take him.
I don't want him no more.
Has been begging to be traded all offseason.
Seattle's like, All right, here's the world, right? I mean, that's basically what they did.
They traded basically the exact same package that Chicago traded to Oakland at the time.
That's really old Matt Kalil.
So what you are, man, I'm looking for the actual, uh, details because I know I saw it.
All right, here we go.
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Say what's up anyway? All right, s So here are the details.
So the Jets obviously trading away Jamal Adams in 1/4 round pick in 2022.
Wow. So that's even more interesting.
I didn't even know they.
So it's is to use.
This next season's but the seasons after, um, in exchange for Bradley McDougald, who's a safety, I yes, and a first round pick in 2021 3rd round pick in 2021 a first round pick in 2022.
So I mean, sheesh, that is quite a bit quite a bit of value.
But to be fair, though, Seattle like they just they just never really hit on their first round picks. At least not recently.
Right? They they go shot.
Penny, they went lj Collier last year, I think, and this past year it was a little bit of a reach, in my opinion, Jordan Brooks.
But I do like Jordan Brooks.
Um, so I mean, you know, I like it because you I mean, I've talked about it.
I think Jamal Adams is a great player.
I think he is one of the league's best safeties.
You know, currently, um, but I don't I didn't necessarily think of Seattle as in, like, Super Bowl now mode, but I guess they kind of are.
I guess Pete Carroll just thinks of himself is let me.
I'm gonna coach of all these guys.
However, I think this changes this defense man because we were talking about how bad it is and all that right.
But now I think I think it gives a little more credence to my argument where I said that I believe the Seahawks are in eight and eight team without Russell Wilson.
So I think I think it just feeds into that argument that I need.
I agree now, the last couple people, and you have to go back to 2012 when they got Bruce Irvin.
And then further than that, 2010 was the last time they got someone, in my opinion of Jamal Adams caliber, and on top of that, if the guy that they're trying to replace me East, a guy that they're trying to replace in that spot well, yeah, well, camp counselors, the guy they're trying to replace.
But on the other side of that, Earl Thomas E teen.
So, man, in my opinion, I think Jamal Adams has a very similar play style.
The way can plate, right, Incredibly, that he's one of those box safeties come up hit you that he could blitz.
He's a guaranteed tackler.
And, you know, I think I don't think Jamal excels on all the teams in the NFL.
I don't think he would, because of the just the way he his style and the way the Jets used him, right? You gotta use him the way the Jets using and Seattle will use him the way the Jets used him with a lot of he was the most blitzing safety in the NFL last year.
And that's why he had stacks upon stacks upon stacks of stats out there and highlight reel um, clips and stuff.
I think they needed him drastically.
Last year, they were ranked won t eighth, tied for 28th in the NFL at allowing yards per carry to the opposing team.
Yep, tied with Kansas City.
So they were as bad as Kansas City at stopping the run last season.
Sure, and I think that's still a concern because they have.
I mean, they have a pretty decent linebacking corps, obviously, with Bobby Wagner there, K J.
Wright and now their first round rookie, you're hoping he could step up Shaquille Griffin or Griffin.
Sorry, Um, I get the mixed up.
I don't know which ones Which ones, Which is? It's one letter off.
I don't know any way, Um, but the problem is their defensive line, right? It feels like they've They've put a lot of stock into this, and they drafted LJ Collier, and he didn't really turn out to be first round talent, which, as a lot of off of us expected, and, ah, it's it's really just an average defensive line.
But, I mean, there's secondary now, especially with Jamal Adams isn't to back.
It's not that bet.
I think it's pretty **** solid along with that linebacking corps, but really, I mean, it really just goes to the old ad at adds that what is more important in today's NFL is that getting pressure or is it just playing good in good secondary good coverage? So I mean, I guess we'll see.
But I don't know.
How do you feel about this defense now with Jamal Adams? I think they're still missing a piece.
Is you set up for you? They get themselves a good pass rusher.
I think they will be set, I think. Jamal.
Really? He kind of feels that, like we already talked about the camp Chancellor, the ah, the Bob Sanders.
The uh Oh, I wouldn't say toy Paula.
Model Polamalu did a lot of similar things, but I think he was better in pass coverage than what Adams is right.
But yeah, he's that style.
And I think just with him being up there being ableto weave through a defense like the front seven and find the whole to hit a running back or to get to the quarterback quickly, uh, he's got a knack for finding the ball right.
You've got a knack for so that will help a lot.
But you need that that front four of that defensive line.
You need them to be able to be in their positions in order for guys like your linebackers, and you're blitzing safeties in order to be freed up to make those plays, and they are missing that type of player out there.
That special player.
That's why I mean, honestly, he's gonna play.
He's already said right that he would play his final two seasons on his rookie deal in the Ricky country.
It's that he would that he wants to be paid as the highest safety in the NFL, right long term.
But he would play so that, in my opinion, that leaves the door open for them to still go get someone up front to help with the run defense.
Okay, What if they went and got Clowney right now? What they're like, Hey, clowning will give you a three year deal.
Will have to tack on a little extra money, you know, because they don't have the money to have to pay them big upfront.
Yeah, see that? That might be the problem.
I don't know the whole Clowney thing, man.
I think I absolutely would make the most sense football wise to see Clowney go back to the Seahawks thinking he would absolutely help out that team and that defense.
But I don't know, man.
What is cloudy want right now? Does he want the money.
Does he want to go back to a team that he knows? He fits it? I think it comes down to what Clowney wants, and I've been hearing a lot of ties to the Titans.
And I mean, if that happens, cool, whatever.
But I don't know, man.
I think at this point it's just whatever Clowney wants.
I think the Seattle is.
They gave him an offer and they're not willing to budge.
And that's just the situation they're in there kind of at a stalemate.
It's not like Seattle.
I mean, they're gonna have to find somebody and they're not.
They're not gonna have a first round pick the next couple of years.
T go get one than big run stuffing defensive lineman, so they'll have to be get lucky.
And they haven't had that kind of luck on the D line.
Yo, they're gonna have toe spend money in free agency, in my opinion, much like the way the Colts did, they couldn't find their their permanent three tech over last few years.
So they just went out and said, Hey, we're gonna grab the fourth Buckner.
Seattle needs to step up and do something similar to that.
But they don't have a first round pick to trade anymore.
See, Yeah, I mean, well, Wagner should have done.
Bobby Wagner is He should have done what this guy did.
He told the Ravens for an office.
He's like, I need someone of from men.
I need help out here.
And that's when they went and drafted Haloti Ngata played nose tackle.
So I mean, you know, I think Bobby Wagner should definitely have to do that, but obviously, I mean, you know, different strokes for different folks, but I But yeah, it's a shame that the D line is kind of so weak for the Seahawks because the rest of their defense isn't bad at all.
I think it could be a very good immense.
I think I honestly, there's a player and I would love toe.
I wish that Ray was here because I think he would have some words to say about this.
But from what I'm understanding the defensive lineman mild Malcolm Brown for the Patriots, he didn't.
He has not lived up to expectations that burst around, pit sure for them, and he's still a very talented player.
But maybe doesn't fit in that system properly.
If Seattle could maybe offer a 2nd 1/3 round pick form or something of that nature and get him in, Maybe that would be like that fresh start that a lot of players need.
That could be an option for them, but manner in order to do that, you're the problem with doing trades like this is you're giving up your future, right? You're giving up a lot for one player, and that's a problem.
So So you kind of don't like this trade on Seattle side.
Basically, you do you think the Jets came out with the better end of this deal? I believe the Jets ended up on the veteran, but Jamal Adams does fit Seattle scheme.
I think he will play very well in Seattle.
I just don't like that Seattle gave so much for him.
I think I think had Seattle waited a little bit longer and just offered a first and 1/3 and a safety, they could have kept their other first round pick.
Yeah, I I kind of do agree with you because I think that this is a move you make if like strong safety is your only hole on the team, right? If you know this roster is stacked, we don't really need to build for the future.
We already got everything we need. We got all the pieces.
We just need that strong safety or just a game changer on the defense in the secondary, someone to play in the box.
That's when you make the trade for Jamal Adams and give up two first round picks.
But I think Seattle isn't necessarily, at least in a roster perspective.
I mean, they're not a bad team, but I wouldn't necessarily say they should be a Super Bowl favorite, right? So I don't know.
But maybe they think they are running for the Super Bowl, and I'm just totally thinking wrong here.
Maybe they That's how Seattle's thinking. Right now.
It's possible, but I tell you what I mean.
The Jets really did walk away with this.
They got to be happy.
I mean, they because McDougald is it a bad safety, right? He's not nowhere near the caliber of the Adamses, but you get two first round picks and 1/3 and you're all you're doing is giving up 1/4 right? Holy crap.
I mean, they got three first round picks over the next couple years.
They got four first round picks in the next two years to fix that offensive line in front of in front of a certain quarterback, right? Exactly.
I mean, can you think about that? I mean, let's let's see if they actually do that, but they should.
That's that's what I think.
They they fix that offensive line, that they spend both their first round picks next year and grab themselves a couple offensive linemen to go in in front of that quarterback and then help the running game as well.
I mean, obviously because, uh, well, I mean, the thing is that they're not able to draft a new head coach.
So that's really a problem for the Jets.
Anything But I mean, you know, I do like this move for the Jets, because I mean, like you said, you're only giving up 1/4 round pick from next year, not even this next draft, but the year after.
So that's a pretty good move, and especially since its a player, one of your star players you don't want to lose him, but he wants out.
You know, you kind of got to do what you gotta do.
And they squeezed out a good amount from Seattle.
So, you know, I don't say this much, but I will say that I think it's a pretty good move from the Jets.
I mean, you know, considering the cir***stances.
Obviously, ideally, you wouldn't have to trade away Jamal Adams, but, you know, and also there I don't know if you saw on Twitter, but, like Levy on Bell was had some words about this, and, ah, you know, other players on the Jets as well.
So I mean, it just goes to show you what kind of a crap organization the Jets are, in my opinion.
But anyway, yeah, Adams did come out and also say that Adam Gates was not the guy for the future as right.
Um, now, uh, it's funny because you have these guys that air like I want traded.
And very rarely do you get guys who say I want traded or I want out.
And you get this kind of chunky change out of them, right? Usually you don't get that much Because everybody knows you're wanting to get rid of them.
And they're just like, Well, what will you take form now? There It brings the question in my mind.
Hey, think about a He was given up for a running back in a right worth round pick.
Yeah. Fourth route.
That's a guy that you give up ground picks. Forcefully.
But still, it was still pretty bad.
Yeah, Second sentient.
Yeah, that's a guy you give up two first round picks for? Yeah, right.
He could he could fit in any system.
Right? Big possession receiver guy.
Yeah, but and it wasn't known.
That's the thing.
It wasn't known that Hopkins was going to be living the Texans.
It was known Adams Adams was not playing right.
So that's unbelievable.
Maybe they could trade.
Uhm, maybe maybe the Jets can give a first round pick.
The Jacksonville and Yannick cannot wait.
There you go see that? That would be a nice move that would that's that's when you would start taking the Jets for an office like OK, I see you make an actually decent moves for your free time for your football team.
but I don't know.
Um, any way you want to go through the Seahawks schedule? Yeah.
We could go through this Seahawks schedule and figure out what we're gonna do.
We've already done this once.
To be quite honest, I don't think it will change much because I think I had the Met 12 and four.
If I'm honest, I think we had him pretty high.
Yes, Um, I still think I had the Niners went into the division.
He, um But to be fair, they can't get much worse in the running game defensively, Having that having that guy there at safety to help with the running.
The Jets had one of the best run defense is in football.
And Jamal Adams was a big part of that, right? So I really believe that that will help step them of that.
They're not going to give up 4.
9 yards a carry next year.
It might just that one guy might raise it to 4.
7 or something, you know, and bring it into at least a 20 like around 20 rather than 28.
I could see that now, depending upon whether or not they acquire anyone else.
All right. So week one, they go to Falcons.
I got to give it to Seattle. There.
Alright, it here, let me write it down.
Okay, So then the pats.
Yeah, Pat's going to Seattle.
And the thing is, is I I don't know.
I think I had the patch winning that game before.
And now with Adams, I think they're better against Cam.
That's the equalizer.
I think Adams is an equalizer against Cam.
I think the Seahawks could win that.
I think I actually agree with you because before yet, for me, it was also one of those games that I'm like.
I'm not sure, but now, now that they have that speed back there with Jamal Adams to match up if in case Cam wants to take off um, I like that matchup.
I like that matchup.
So I'll agree with you.
We'll give it to the Seahawks there.
So 22 and O for both of us.
There's one that we might end up switching on because I still believe The Cowboys are a dominant team in the NFC, and even though he's there, it will help against Zeke.
Ah, but there's just so much aerial firepower for the Cowboys.
I think that is still going to be, Ah, high scoring game.
I think the Cowboys could come out on top on this game.
Ah, this one is just so tough for me, man.
I think I gave it to the Seahawks last time or no, I think I might have given that. Went to the Cowboys.
I just don't think the Seahawks match up well against the Cowboys, and Yeah, See, I'm concerned about Zeke.
If he's, like running on all cylinders like you said and firing, the Cowboys could come out and win this.
But if Deck has one of those deck games and he only puts up 13 points, the Seahawks could win.
So I'm gonna bank on that and give it to Seattle.
Okay. All right. So we're split on that.
Next Seahawks go to Miami.
No, that's why I think that was an easy win last time of Keep it that way.
Yeah, we're gonna keep it there? Um, Vikings, Then go to Seattle, M C.
Before, I had a little trouble with this one.
But now, I mean, Jamal Adams is a game changer.
Dude, I'm giving it to Seattle.
I'm giving it to Seattle as well, because I don't think that cousins is going do very well with a blitzing Adams in his face all the time.
Oh, yeah, especially with that offensive line that the Vikings have.
Then Seattle walks into Arizona.
Yeah, I I like where Arizona is going, but I just don't see it.
Yeah, I'm not ready to give Arizona win over Seattle just yet. Not this year. Men.
I still think they're going to get swept, unfortunately, but But I think they're gonna be a good team, though.
All right, Get hurt.
Then the Niners come calling.
I'm still going to split this series.
I think I think the Niners will come into Seattle and lose in Seattle.
Actually, I think you had them sweeping the Seahawks.
If I'm not mistaken.
And maybe maybe I think you did say I, um there are wanting.
Yeah, the thickness.
And Seattle just got one of the best run stoppers in football that equal life is a little bit on that.
We're gonna have to throw the football more often, and I'm not sold on Jimmy Garoppolo.
Do I like it? All right, so it's a split, then that's accepts.
So let's for the record, the drum all Adams trade has changed Lawrence's prediction of the Niners sweeping the Seahawks.
Let's just put that on the record.
Okay? So next game, did you have Seattle one in that as well? Yes.
Yes, yes. I have them splitting. Yep.
Ah, Seattle then goes to Buffalo again.
I don't think Buffalo has what it takes.
Now again, if this is like a snow game, they could have that.
Or if it's cold weather, the Bills defense could come out on top.
Um, but just for the sake that we're in, What July? Still So I'm still going to say it's Seattle gonna win for now in July.
I love the Bills defense.
Uh, that's the thing, all right.
I think that Buffalo's defense is really, really good.
Um, this is a tougher matchup for me then Niners Seahawks.
I think that this is this is one of those situations because the Bills.
When? When Allen is on.
That goes all offenses on fire, Sure, but it's just whether or not he's on.
Writer uh um, I am going to give it to the Bills on Lee because it's at home, okay, and and, like you say, it's still, you know, it's it's in November.
So it could be a little bit of weather and that in that scenario, all right, that's fair.
I'm open to that for sure.
I haven't given the molasses yet just to let you know.
So that's that's not yeah, the Rams.
But I think this is gonna be my first loss here again.
I'm a little higher than on the Rams, and I think a lot of people are I don't necessarily think they're gonna, you know, be at that level where they were at the Super Bowl or anything, but I think they're gonna be okay.
Vying for a playoff spot.
They'll probably be in the neck of the division race for a while.
That's how I feel about the Rams.
But anyway, I'm gonna I'm gonna have them split with Seahawks and they win this one at home. Man.
They lost the number one receiver.
They lost their number one running back. I just I can't.
I'm not there with you.
I understand why you are.
I got Seattle walking in L A and just trashing him.
OK? Do you have him sweeping them too? Would you say Oh, yeah.
All right, So then the cards again.
I said they were sweeping the cards.
Okay, So I I'm pretty sure I had the Eagles winning that game, and now I am not so sure anymore.
I got I'm not so sure anymore because, you know, my whole argument was walking into Philly is a lot tougher than you might think, but now, I mean, we know there's not gonna be fans in the stands in Philadelphia.
They already said that.
That's a factor.
And also, the Seahawks defense just got that much better.
Man, Um, I'd like to bring up two points. Okay.
This is a prime time game.
Yeah, to Seattle is traveling across the entire country to this game.
I think just four.
Because they have only given them one loss, and I don't feel good about that.
So I'm gonna have them lose this game. Still against the Eagles.
And do you have them? What? What do you got? I think that this game will be put on the back. Of course. In one's.
If yourself? Yeah.
At the end of at the end of November.
Yeah, Whether or not now, Granted, it's a by week for Seattle.
Oh, they're coming off a bye week. Yes.
Whoa, That's right. Okay, okay.
So that that's it was a Thursday? No, its not necessarily by week.
Coming off that Thursday night game. Okay.
Mold my week? Many.
But yeah, it's like a mini by weeks, so it's a long rest for Seattle.
Uh, 11 game rest.
So I'm going to give this one to Seattle.
Okay, Fair enough.
They got the New York teams coming in, and I think we had them in both.
And I'm gonna have to say the same. Yeah.
Jamal Adams going into Seattle did not make the Giants or the Jets any better. Exactly.
Especially did not make the Jet City ever.
Then they go to the Washington football team beats in football team.
Uh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I got you, too.
And then Rams go in Seattle.
That's a dub that is a win.
And finally, the Niners.
They end the season with a loss for me.
They end the season with a loss from me.
All right, so here we go.
So let's remember, I think I'm pretty sure Lawrence had them going.
10 and six pre Jamal Adams trade.
I think that's what it was like.
It was. I had them going 12 and four.
Now my record is 13 and three.
So, in my opinion, Jamal Adams makes them one win better.
So I only I already thought they were a good team.
This just makes them and even more dominance. E.
When one player who is not a quarterback you can get you wins on on a weekly scale that's at the That's a big pickup.
Absolutely, and even better.
Lawrence has them with same record 13 and three, So a three win difference is is what Jamal Adams gave them.
According to the Lord's, I think because they could stop the run, it helps them out.
Yeah, so I mean, obviously, that's what we think.
We think this is a huge trade for Seattle again.
I think he's an amazing player.
However, like we said, the future might not be so bright for Seattle.
That might be one of the issues, right? Yep.
They better be ready to basically, uh, with the guys they have, let him keep getting better and keep them guys, you know, signed those guys because you're not going to get a lot of prime, you know, blue chip players coming out of college.
You're gonna have to rely on your second round picks, man.
And you gotta hit in the third and the fourth, you know? And that's not always easy to do.
At least not for every team.
And they gave 1/3 round pick away.
So next year, this this coming year's third round pick, So yeah. Yeah.
So they're gonna have a second round pick, then they'll have 1/4 round pick. Yeah.
I mean, I guess we'll see what they dio.
Yeah, we'll find out.
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