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00:00:29
Welcome to the Lakers Central podcast, where I discussed the most famous basketball team on the planet with the biggest, brightest and up and coming voices in sports and culture.
00:00:38
Lakers basketball is back.
00:00:40
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00:01:21
So check out that episode on the crossover podcast when it drops on Monday.
00:01:27
Been a basketball is back, man basketball is back.
00:01:33
Not yet.
00:01:34
No, it didn't come back yesterday.
00:01:35
It's back today.
00:01:36
Basketball is back.
00:01:38
It just you know, Alex, it feels like the timeline, the energy on the timeline today It was just it was just different, right? Like I mean, that's what came back yesterday.
00:01:46
No, people are excited.
00:01:48
But today it's like it really feels like the season just restarted.
00:01:52
Maybe at about 4 p.m.
00:01:54
Pacific standard time, because it is a little different today.
00:01:57
I can't believe it, man.
00:01:58
I mean, yesterday, you know, people were getting goose bumps and talking about the Lakers being back.
00:02:03
And then today it just felt different.
00:02:06
Man, it felt different.
00:02:08
And I was watching the game, and I know there weren't really fans in the stands or whatever.
00:02:13
I mean, just to scrimmage game is not even a riel a season game yet, but it didn't feel that different.
00:02:18
Yeah, just And and maybe it's It's just been, you know, 34 months since we've seen regular basketball, but it didn't even feel that different to me.
00:02:26
Yeah, I was gonna say, probably outside of like that.
00:02:29
I know it almost felt like I I watched some of the games yesterday also, and it felt like I could actually focus on the game a little bit more like it's I usually, um, mute the broadcast anyways, because I'm usually like streaming on my laptop for something I got are streaming into my TV, so I'll mute it.
00:02:47
Um, I thought it was great.
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You know, I can't.
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There's nothing else to look at.
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Like outside of going cutting to commercial.
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There's no like side commentary.
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Nothing like that.
00:02:57
So if you and ah, I think I was watching the Nets broadcast or Africa, which the very first game I don't know, it may have been the Clippers game.
00:03:05
They were.
00:03:06
The guy who was doing the play by play was doing it like it was the radio.
00:03:08
I was like, Oh, this is great, Like I didn't mind that also about now that's an acquired taste.
00:03:14
But I did not miss listening to the nonsense takes from the more national media guys, but we'll see how that works out in when the regular season starts.
00:03:23
But they met hats off the Adam silver hats off to all the N B A.
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Players.
00:03:28
Hats off to the coaches, the staff, everybody that's making that bubble possible.
00:03:33
This is a pretty amazing experience, Um, for as like, out of normal cir***stances, that it is, it is mad.
00:03:42
I mean, look, um, the Lakers are back and LeBron and Anthony Davis they look really good.
00:03:49
I mean, all things considered with the lay own, you know, they only played 15 minutes apiece, but they look like they they picked up right where they dropped off that in march.
00:04:03
Yeah, I think that's a beautiful thing.
00:04:06
Yeah, Lakers timeline definitely let people know that, uh, that they were that they were rolling.
00:04:10
So, um, I didn't see any rust from them, but obviously, you know, it's also you also get like, those of those games where you just can't miss itself.
00:04:18
I got It's the first game.
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You just getting all the energy, Alex.
00:04:21
So I'm sure they'll have some.
00:04:23
We'll regress to the mean or something.
00:04:25
I got broad. Looked good.
00:04:27
He looked spry.
00:04:28
80 look good. It he looks fried.
00:04:30
There was they changed that that first rotation up a little bit on the LeBron.
00:04:35
Set out for a little bit longer than they normally do before they bring him back for the second quarter.
00:04:40
Usually Broncos for a three minute break at the end of the first, and then he starts.
00:04:45
The 2nd 80 sits on the bench, And he did.
00:04:49
They didn't do that today.
00:04:50
Ah, the bronze sat on the bench for like, an extra three minutes Um, and the reason why was because Mr Philly cheese himself, the odd waiters Ah, hit that.
00:05:02
I think that buzzer beater at the other the first quarter.
00:05:04
So, uh, yeah, it was good, man.
00:05:07
It was It's, you know, a lot of us.
00:05:10
A lot of Laker fans like myself have hitched our wagons, and we believe in Dion waiters.
00:05:14
And, um, I think today we got, like, a sample, a small taste of how he can be clearly some things to work out.
00:05:21
Bo, what do you think of his debut? Ah, with the Lakers, it went great.
00:05:28
Like I wasn't expecting a 20 point game or 30 point game, anything like that.
00:05:33
So it's important to keep it within its proper context.
00:05:36
Um, I wasn't even expecting nine points.
00:05:40
That's what he had. Nine points.
00:05:41
Three for seven shooting.
00:05:43
Um, that's amazing.
00:05:45
The dude I don't play basketball like a year.
00:05:48
You know, I'm saying, like, kids and playing like a year.
00:05:51
And it wasn't so much about how he shot the ball as much as like, his energy.
00:05:57
Energy was great.
00:05:58
And, you know, Dion waiters has been a lot of people joke about him that you know, he's a Mim, you know, they make fun of him all the time, and so he can very much be down on himself.
00:06:09
But for him to come out and with that kind of energy and for the team, you know, clearly rally around him, hit that big three at the end of the quarter, man, he's gonna be He's gonna be a key piece.
00:06:25
I mean, he played, what, 13 minutes? He can give the Lakers nine points in 13 minutes.
00:06:31
You get a night? I mean, that's the Lakers need that right? Like they needed at all season at all.
00:06:36
I don't think I don't think we're gonna see too many situations where, uh, Anthony Davis and LeBron James are gonna be off the floor at the same time.
00:06:45
But you could tell.
00:06:46
I mean, there's there's good, and there's bad, right? So that there was a bunch of sequences when he was on the floor, where he got, like, completely lost.
00:06:55
He didn't even know who he was defending.
00:06:56
His guy was left like, wide open.
00:06:58
That's all stuff that they'll clean up.
00:07:00
You know, um, as a rotation, it comes.
00:07:02
We didn't have Caruso tonight because it was a late scratch.
00:07:05
And Caruso helps tighten up some of that rotation because he kind of helps direct the offense.
00:07:10
He makes that extra help, help help rotation over itself again.
00:07:15
But you could tell that, um, you know, if Dion really, really wanted to, he could probably go to the rim every single time out of those pick and roll plays.
00:07:24
But you could tell he was trying.
00:07:25
He was trying to keep javale involved. At times.
00:07:28
He was trying to keep Dwight involved.
00:07:29
I actually think that that pick and roll would have been better.
00:07:33
Um, but because JaVale and Dwight have spent so much time playing those pick and roll situations with Rondo that data, they they probably don't even realize that, like, oh, dear, I was gonna go to the rim and easy have drop it to me because he's gonna go the extra guy.
00:07:48
So a couple times you could you could see, like Dwight, just like bobble the boy for him.
00:07:53
I think it was just like reps and I wonder of what's what's going to end up happening is as the scrimmages go on as they get more reps itself.
00:08:01
I got to get live reps against, like, switching, you know, different defenses.
00:08:05
I wonder if that ends a big, much better.
00:08:06
Um, the other thing, Uh, I thought was Ah, there is only one bowl ban Marjanovic in the league that at that size, Um, and I would suspect that that Dion pick and roll with Dwight in Trouville is probably gonna be better when it's not bull bad standing in the middle of the paint, Uh, and so that because you can't move them out of the way.
00:08:29
It's almost impossible to shoot around him.
00:08:32
But I think that that action probably is gonna look a little bit.
00:08:36
The Lakers look really good running that GHO accent, the dribble handoff action to KCP Um, and you know it.
00:08:43
It just looks good.
00:08:45
It I have a good feeling about you could see this.
00:08:47
You could see where they could just keep running the same sets over and over again and being successful at it, it just seemed like with with Dion, um, it was just reps.
00:08:57
A soon as he gets more comfortable and he gets comfortable, um, there, you know, coaches will tell coaches talk about this You if you played any structured basketball, you know this Like it takes a little bit of time to know where everybody is always gonna be when I run this action.
00:09:12
When I make this move, when I make this decision for this to dribble to the free throw line toe freeze jail the guy behind me, where are my guys? That and you could tell Dion didn't know that just yet.
00:09:22
And I feel like as soon as it is assumed that clicks firm, we're gonna be good and ah, all the like exactly what you mentioned nine points in 13 minutes, um, saw a lot of good opportunities, Had a lot of drop off passes I got, you know, blocked by bull, banned by, you know, building block and wider.
00:09:40
Ah, javale.
00:09:42
He looks good, man.
00:09:43
I don't think his integrations gonna be that hard.
00:09:45
And I loved that His first possession of the game Waas the Oh, we almost lost it.
00:09:54
We almost turned it over.
00:09:55
He scrambles, gets it back.
00:09:56
Now he's in a one on one situation.
00:09:58
Shouldn't beats his guy off the dribble, Pulls up, makes it like that kind of improvisational stuff.
00:10:04
is like what we've been missing out of that bench unit.
00:10:07
And, um, look, I'm just happy.
00:10:10
I'm just happy that you have a nice debut.
00:10:11
Obviously, you know, that doesn't mean we're gonna win the championship.
00:10:15
But it's good to see that we have a guy who is confident in himself when it comes to scoring and won't just settle for a long three or along two or something like that.
00:10:24
Yeah, I agree.
00:10:25
I mean, look, I think it was Trudeau said during the broadcast that, you know, originally, Rondo's injury was gonna have him out 68 weeks.
00:10:32
Now they're saying for the six, and you know, Vogel would like to integrate him back into the lineup.
00:10:38
And I was watching that game, and I'm thinking, Oh, vocals going have a problem.
00:10:43
Tom Rondo gets back.
00:10:45
If Caruso was playing the way that most of us expect, Crusoe to play and and waiters is doing what waiters is capable of, there's no place to play Rondo.
00:10:55
They give you.
00:10:56
There's no reason to play him at that point, so I hope that vocal doesn't try to shoot shoehorn him and for the sake of it.
00:11:03
But, um it vote if Caruso and waiters is doing their thing, and then we haven't even gotten to J. R.
00:11:11
You know, we had a big three, obviously, and he had six points tonight.
00:11:14
But if those guys are playing the way that we think they can, then we're going to go.
00:11:18
I mean, usually when when Rondo comes in the game, the offense gets really stagnant.
00:11:23
Yeah, the the Lakers opponent goes on Ah, 6 to 8 point run to start the second quarter's Lakers Go go down.
00:11:31
Then you gotta rush LeBron back in the game.
00:11:34
It's this happens time and time again.
00:11:36
So, um, to your point waiters, if things get a little dicey, he's he's for whatever reason.
00:11:43
He's comfortable, like in scramble mode, like everyone else is like scrambling.
00:11:48
He's like, calm.
00:11:49
Somehow it's there.
00:11:51
It's, um, you know, uh, waiters originally got doctor by Cleveland, right? And famously, there was ah lot of chatter in Cleveland.
00:11:59
This is before LeBron came back about how Kyrie and waiters would clash when it came to their style of play.
00:12:05
You know, waiters wants the ball in his hand.
00:12:06
Carry wants a ball on his head.
00:12:08
They're both their Their style of game is built from the same cloth that, um, the Jaeckel just had that song that just came out.
00:12:16
Ah, I forgot.
00:12:17
What the what? The verses in this song.
00:12:19
It just came out.
00:12:20
Last night's the client back, but he says something like, um, you know, like my guys run the Was it my guy Shoot the ball like they've never run the point or something like that.
00:12:29
More two guards and waiter I butchered the lyrics so you guys can look it up whoever's watching, but, ah, well, and there's words I can't say on on the on the Livestream anyways.
00:12:40
But he's a two guard.
00:12:42
He's he's small to guard.
00:12:44
He's Randy Foye.
00:12:46
He's Brandon Roy.
00:12:47
He's These guys that are are are just flat out scores.
00:12:51
But because of their height, they get put into this mold where they gotta be point cards.
00:12:55
And that's a little that's like what Kyrie is Qari conduct the dimes can, you know, improvise in situations where you need them to score in all its something like that.
00:13:03
But that clash happens because waiters is the same kind of guy, and, um, I think that's the part that, like fans who don't watch intimately or don't see, like, kind of the skill sets up, they don't realize that that's what he is.
00:13:17
He's not a two guard, he's not.
00:13:19
He's just a score.
00:13:21
And the fact that the Lakers are just telling him, Hey, look, go do what you have. We're gonna give you the space.
00:13:26
Dwight's gonna give you such a good screen that you're literally gonna get like five feet around you.
00:13:31
It's in a circle and somebody may be waiting for you at the rim.
00:13:34
But just do what you gotta go do and the fact that he's still willing to, you know, drop those passes to Dwight and Surveillance if I got that's great to see.
00:13:42
I think it's also testament to what Spoelstra's done over in Miami because they he help kind of build that habit, you know, wait for that late read and stuff like that.
00:13:50
So he's a good fit man.
00:13:53
I don't know how else to describe him.
00:13:55
Um, he is the volume score that that bench needs.
00:14:00
Caruso knows how to play defense.
00:14:01
He knows how to rotate.
00:14:03
Koosman knows where he has to stand on the court for that open, open jumper.
00:14:06
Once it comes to him, Keith knows where.
00:14:08
Yes, the defensive Dwight knows he has to rim run on that.
00:14:10
So we just need somebody who shoot the ball that we don't need any more unselfishness on the Lakers.
00:14:16
I already have too much of it right now because that's mobilised principle.
00:14:18
So I think he's gonna be easy to fit like a glove man.
00:14:21
I and I'm just glad to see that he got his minutes, Um, tonight and, you know, like I said, small sample size.
00:14:29
But there is a lot of good things to see in the way that he reads the floor and makes his decisions.
00:14:33
He's gonna have a game where I don't know if that happen in these 88 8 regular season games, but he's gonna have a game where he's just gonna keep going to the rack every single time and just getting layups and drawing fouls.
00:14:44
And he's really good at that as well.
00:14:46
So I'm I'm I'm on board Waiters island eso we'll get No, I am, too.
00:14:53
And you mentioned the white in jail.
00:14:55
I mean, they picked up where they left off at They combined for 22 points.
00:14:59
I mean, you know, Vogel likes running those bigs on the court with Anthony Davis, and they look good.
00:15:04
Also getting winded.
00:15:06
They didn't look out of shape.
00:15:07
I mean, this is one of the positives about having a veteran team.
00:15:12
I think we have a younger team.
00:15:14
Those guys. Oh, we got three months off.
00:15:16
Let me not work out as much.
00:15:17
Let me kind of party a little bit more.
00:15:19
Let me do whatever these guys look like.
00:15:22
All of them stayed in shape and they played like it.
00:15:26
What did you see from coos, man? I mean, he was 13.
00:15:30
He still looked a little.
00:15:33
So So what I was more interested in seeing with Cruz was like his spry nous.
00:15:38
I didn't I didn't know if you come out and shoot, obviously.
00:15:40
You know, Vogel said that he was shooting the lights out, and so you give one part of the only I mean, I guess I don't I'm not gonna question, but it was an amazing job.
00:15:49
Ah, as a coach, and I think he's always stayed, like, kind of even killed itself like a I think, um I think Koosman look spry.
00:15:58
That was the part that I was more interested in saying, Does he? Is he, um he doesn't have a quick first step.
00:16:04
His handle is also not good.
00:16:06
Um, Koosman does this thing Where when he dribbles with his right hand when he wants to, like, act like he's gonna cross you over a major move, he sticks his left hand out Or, like, really far away.
00:16:15
Like as if he's trying to keep himself balanced and always cracks me up when I see that, but that's usually like Hallmark of Okay, this guy can't really dribble, so that's gonna be you know? You know what? You in which direction? He's gonna go in.
00:16:26
Um and so the main thing I was looking to see, it was his spine iss.
00:16:30
And there was a lot of plays.
00:16:31
Um, I want to say he took a three.
00:16:33
He missed it.
00:16:35
He took another jumper.
00:16:36
He missed it.
00:16:37
But then on the third possession, there was a corner kick out to him.
00:16:40
I'm just doing this by memory right now, um, where he pump fake and he got the guy slipping.
00:16:44
The guy the guy overplayed closed out too hard.
00:16:46
He drove real heart attack the room. He had a layup.
00:16:49
But he did that thing that Lonzo used to do his rookie year where he'd have, like, a layup.
00:16:52
And they just kept he passed out of it, thinking that he should make the extra pass.
00:16:56
So on the read side, um, obviously still needs some work.
00:17:02
But, um, I'm glad to see him moving around really well on the offensive end.
00:17:07
So that's good on the defensive end, he was doing some high school stuff that you're not supposed to do.
00:17:13
Like he was turning his hips, letting Luca basically giving Luca Lane.
00:17:17
And then he'd overplay that Lane and Aluko hit him with, like, Ah, I think he hit it twice or three times in a row where you hit him with a behind the back left or right.
00:17:26
Ah, dribble And then got the lay up and I was just like, all right, I think this is just what we're gonna do here.
00:17:33
We just gotta let have just keep searching directions on you and stuff like that.
00:17:35
But right, Like I said, you know, this is this is you know who's was Bash Black, who has always been something that's went up for debate.
00:17:43
But I'm glad to see that he's moving well because I was concerned about his ankle on his foot injuries and how much he was affecting himself like a nice to see him grab a lob and dunk it, I said, Yeah, nice to see him, like, kind of have some synergy.
00:17:56
I think he benefits probably the most from having somebody like LeBron Ah be the point card on the court because he's not very.
00:18:05
He's not very good at like making like the right decision based on what he sees.
00:18:11
It's more like Okay, LeBron has a ball, so I need to be ready like I got to be active.
00:18:15
I gotta keep my head up and cut in that sort of thing.
00:18:17
So it was good.
00:18:18
I just got to see if you get better.
00:18:19
But, you know, obviously will mind.
00:18:21
Or his shooting for for 13 isn't good.
00:18:23
I will say you miss a lot of easy floaters that he usually makes a lot of those little short hop floaters that he takes.
00:18:30
It felt like he was kind of letting them go little early.
00:18:32
Um, it may have been because posing a symbol of Obama there, like, just affect shots just by standing there self, you know, that's what I was.
00:18:41
What did you think of his debut? There were times that I felt like he was forcing it a little bit like there were a couple mid range jumpers when I just felt like, Come on, man, you don't need to take that shot and he's capable of making them.
00:18:57
But who's does this thing where, like he goes, that you'll miss a shot and the Lakers might get Dolphins? Every male, he gets it back and he liked takes a shot again, like he's act like trying to make up for that first miss.
00:19:10
Rather than just, you know, getting the ball to somebody else was an open shot or getting a better shot.
00:19:15
And he he still needs to find his place on this team.
00:19:20
He hasn't done that yet, and this has been a, you know, the craziest season, probably of all time.
00:19:26
So this isn't This is not an indictment of him as much as it is he just needs to find his place, and, um, this is not an excuse.
00:19:36
Marky Mark IV not playing tonight.
00:19:39
I think her cute hurts who's a bit as well, like marquee slots, coups and his rightful place.
00:19:45
So when we finally get to see Marquis back on the court next game, I'm sure that will help.
00:19:51
Who's out of it? So I want to see how you plays.
00:19:53
A marquee comes back, but I who's just needs to hit open shots.
00:19:59
Yeah, late play decent defense like he's not out there to be some kind of shut down defender, you know? But he moves that play decent defense and not get caught up in trying to be the third guy on on the court like that's it.
00:20:14
Like LeBron and Anthony Davis and then everybody else just do their job.
00:20:18
Don't get caught up in anything else.
00:20:19
Um, What did you see from J. R.
00:20:22
Smith, man? I mean, I was glad to see that he got 14 minutes.
00:20:25
Yeah.
00:20:27
Would you see from him? Yeah.
00:20:29
Um, so I mean, so he was good.
00:20:31
He was kind of part of the reason why Dion was getting lost in his rotations.
00:20:35
Cause them to We're trying to find out who They're like they're trying to pick up guys in transition, and I mean credit to Dallas.
00:20:41
That's kind of the game that they run that Azat think.
00:20:44
Unfortunately, three, they're all breaking out.
00:20:46
So you have to pick somebody up, uh, or find your assignment itself.
00:20:49
I got G r.
00:20:50
Look good, Um, from like in it from, like a energy and, um, energy and just kind of being out there.
00:20:59
Sandpoint, like somebody that you like, would have thought that like Like, I would have expected him to be, like, way out of shape, right being as far out of that small as he was.
00:21:06
But he was, like, serviceable.
00:21:08
I don't know if he cracks the rotation like, uh in the guard hierarchy, like, you know, it'll be Pope will be green.
00:21:17
Pope Caruso, Dion.
00:21:20
Maybe Rondo is there somewhere.
00:21:22
Slotted, Um, who's kind of moves up to that 23 guard kind of roll, depending on how big lineup is that the opposing teams play.
00:21:30
If it's like a big a big guy, like if it's a big wing like Jason Tatum or some I got those kind of guys, Um, so there's like a carousel of guys that they use.
00:21:39
I don't know.
00:21:40
Jr breaks into that rotation or if he's like a break in case of emergency sort of situation.
00:21:44
Um, but it was just good to see him run regular sets.
00:21:47
He was running the same Diego sets Where he takes a pin down screen, comes right across the free throw line.
00:21:52
He was clearly looking to passable.
00:21:54
He wasn't looking to score.
00:21:55
Yeah, which was interesting saving with the story.
00:21:58
It's like very similar to Dion like it seems as though they've been brought on board and Rob has made it very clear to both of them and probably rich as well that you know Vogel on the coaching staff as well that this is a team like we are a team.
00:22:12
The 1st 1st decision you should make is to like look for your teammates, see where you created the advantage, whether it's a pocket pass or whatever it is and set set up your teammates.
00:22:20
And so it's pretty clear that that's what they were doing.
00:22:22
Um, like I said, as this team kind of gets more reps Ah, and to get more used to playing with each other and knowing where everybody stands and stuff like that in some of these sets.
00:22:31
I think it will get easier because there's definitely some opportunities where J.
00:22:35
R caught the ball on the run and he could have easily just gone to the rim for, like, maybe a contested layup attempt.
00:22:41
But he just didn't do it.
00:22:43
You just kind of, like dribbled.
00:22:44
It kind of back out.
00:22:45
He kind of backed out with it, and I was like, All right, like, That's not Jr.
00:22:49
That's not Dion, like we know that you can go to the rim, so I think What's going on? I don't I don't know how much time the Lakers by gonna have to look at T.
00:22:56
But I wonder.
00:22:57
Vogel's probably if they get a chance to look at those sets, will probably tell both of those guys.
00:23:00
Hey, we believe in you.
00:23:02
This set is for you, you know, like usually when KCP runs out set, he catches it.
00:23:08
It's either a pull up jumper or if he sees that the, um who might think you have.
00:23:13
What if the center is out of position? It's a lob over the top right hand, and I think uh, KCP did a great job.
00:23:19
There was one where he ran the other way.
00:23:21
They ran like a reverse DHL where he went from the right side of the court to the left and, ah, what's it called Figure travail or somebody who just, like, kind of pitched it? Teoh kcp in case you want to go pull up on the baseline like he's gonna shoot it and then just floats it just just things, like very early in the game.
00:23:36
JaVale dunks it.
00:23:37
And so, like, that's a kind of action.
00:23:39
I think that Vogel is probably gonna tell, um, you know, Jr like, Hey, this is the kind of this is what we want to do.
00:23:46
Don't worry about it. Like, don't worry about missing shots.
00:23:48
Just keep making those plays itself. I got.
00:23:50
But it all depends on how quickly he moves into the depths. Chardin.
00:23:54
What? The Lakers trusting what? I don't know.
00:23:56
Quinn Cook's gonna really be, um, the guy like there was a stretch.
00:24:00
There was a stretch I want to say in the third quarter, where they were just picking on Quinn cook like every play.
00:24:05
I just gave you the curry and so don't go ahead.
00:24:08
Drive on Cook.
00:24:09
And I mean, no cookies.
00:24:10
A short.
00:24:11
He's a short shooting guard.
00:24:12
He's a point guard shooting around house point guard, side shooting guard.
00:24:15
So you know it.
00:24:17
It's no, nothing wrong with him.
00:24:18
It's just he's not physically equipped to deal with bigger guards.
00:24:21
So, um, Jr my jr might leapfrog him or somebody got in that situation.
00:24:26
So, um, he looked good, Man, I didn't really have high expectations for him because I don't know how many minutes he's really gonna get with this roster.
00:24:33
Lakers like 14 deep today.
00:24:35
So I don't know if we should expect that to continue to happen as it gets closer to the regular season now.
00:24:41
I don't think so.
00:24:42
I mean, well, the last person I want to ask you about tailing Horton talker, everybody had to talk about it.
00:24:49
Everybody wanted to see him.
00:24:51
I mean, he played 13 minutes.
00:24:54
Yeah.
00:24:55
What did you think, man? I thought he forced it a bit, but it's a scrimmage.
00:24:58
But what do you think? It looks like a rookie.
00:25:00
Bet that's exactly what you look like.
00:25:02
Ah, airballed his first shot barely graze the Rim, I think on the 2nd 1 uh, he looks like a rookie that there's not the Rob.
00:25:11
You could tell that he was much more comfortable as the game progressed.
00:25:14
Once he kind of objected to the speed of the game.
00:25:17
At least on the offensive end, I feel like he did a much better job.
00:25:20
Ah, I would say that, uh, you know, his rotations on defense where you know, he was getting a little lost here and there.
00:25:27
But again, this is We're talking about a Geely guy being thrust into N B A basketball.
00:25:32
And he's being asked a guard, guys who have gotten real nb minutes, but he had some nice action men in transition.
00:25:39
Once he gets once, he's running full gate, You kind of get to see the whole go go gadget arms that he has.
00:25:44
Um, you had a lot of left or right crosses where he finished with a lot of English off off the glass.
00:25:50
Um, he had one that he missed, but he snuck it by boat.
00:25:54
Ben, But I was trying time up.
00:25:55
Uh, his time that block and he got is he stretched out just enough to get enough English off.
00:26:01
Um, I think it just rolled off the side of the room, but it's good to see that he's not afraid, You know, on rum, that's that's one of the things.
00:26:09
And I know there's, um, many Laker conspiracy theorists that think that if he's going to eventually, um, if he is what we think he can be and what he's shown in the GE Li, you may eventually make his way into the regular rotation by next year, Um, as he gets more reps in game time and something I got.
00:26:27
So, um, otherwise, you look good, you know, like I I didn't expect him again.
00:26:32
Teoh be spectacular out the gate.
00:26:35
But it's good to see that his physicality, his athleticism, sort of matches up with what it is.
00:26:41
And I think one thing Laker fans should always take take um away from these when rookies play.
00:26:47
Um, is that the There's physical are sorry.
00:26:52
There is gain when we talk about game speed.
00:26:54
Sometimes it's a physical thing, how fast they run, how strong they are, the athleticism.
00:26:59
But there's also a mental speed to the game, that player out to adjust to and the mental speed is what we complain about when we talk about coups mazelike you.
00:27:09
It seems like sometimes you can watch his brain processing as he's playing.
00:27:13
And it's good to see that tail in.
00:27:15
For the most part, um, is not didn't suffer from that initially, Um, he may, as he starts getting, like, more like better defenders guarding and stuff like that.
00:27:26
But, um, you look good, man.
00:27:27
I'm hyped form.
00:27:28
I know there's a lot of people on Lakers.
00:27:29
Twitter, Um, the SB nation guys, Um, and there are a lot of, like, prominent Laker fans of Lakers twitter that are very high on Taylan.
00:27:38
So, um, I'm glad to see him.
00:27:40
He's in the elite player.
00:27:42
Um, and I think he could be, you know, an elite player because of all the intangibles that he has and all the tools that he has.
00:27:50
So, you know, it's good.
00:27:52
I'm glad to see I'm a guy that he got his debut on the national stage.
00:27:57
I like tailing a lot, man.
00:27:58
I mean, look that I think you can see his skill set.
00:28:01
His skill set is there.
00:28:03
Um, I've said this all year long and I'm gonna say it even tonight after seeing him play.
00:28:10
There's no reason to rush this kid like, I think, play him tonight playing in this scrimmages because you obviously want to protect LeBron and those guys.
00:28:17
You also you also want to play tailing.
00:28:20
You want to give him an opportunity, but I don't.
00:28:23
I think he's still a year to away and you know he's role.
00:28:28
He's still very roll.
00:28:29
Yeah, it is like like Ingram.
00:28:31
When he first came to, the Lakers were watching Ignorant.
00:28:33
He was struggling with physical, the physical newsworthy beat.
00:28:37
Then he had like, that stretcher is OK, I see it.
00:28:39
I could see what he can come, but he has a lot. He has a ways to go.
00:28:43
It's the same thing.
00:28:44
Yeah, yet Dehlin looks like you got a lot of talent.
00:28:46
There was a number of times and I saw him get to the basket.
00:28:49
Boban was there, and I'm like, Yeah, Boban is intimidating just because he's huge, right? But like don't like its times that I get remember Audi box he had today here he dwarfs Dwight, and Dwight's not a little guy tailing.
00:29:03
He does somehow manage to still get the ball up around Boban, which is impressive.
00:29:08
And that's his wingspan, obviously.
00:29:10
And so, yeah, he's got a bright future.
00:29:13
Um, but there, you know, there's a number of fans that that think that he should be getting minutes now and she should be out there for this.
00:29:21
This playoff push and all this stuff? None.
00:29:23
And he's not ready.
00:29:25
Um, but I like the kid.
00:29:28
I think that he's got a bright future.
00:29:29
Hope the Lakers keep him around.
00:29:31
I think he's there for the long haul for two specific reasons.
00:29:36
31 He does that talent to.
00:29:40
He's a clutch client.
00:29:41
And three, his salary is so low.
00:29:44
And the Lakers were gonna be start hunting that it probably behooves them to keep him on the roster because of salary reasons, in other words, so But hey, man, the Lakers look good.
00:29:55
I know we lost tonight.
00:29:56
Win or lose.
00:29:58
To me, it didn't really matter.
00:29:59
I was looking to see how they came out.
00:30:01
The energy, things like that.
00:30:02
They look fine.
00:30:04
They play Orlando on Saturday at 12 o'clock Eastern.
00:30:08
That's 9 a.m. for you Cali folks.
00:30:10
Um so I'm on the East Coast right now, so I get to enjoy not having to stay up, that I did not know until I mean, there's not been any basketball pitiless point, but I'm always coming out to Georgia every year.
00:30:24
And, ah, it's usually around the holiday.
00:30:26
So it's like the Thanksgiving Games or the Christmas Games and Mad Iron.
00:30:31
The first couple times I did, I was like, Yo, people on the East Coast Gotta Laci's gaze at 10 PM starts other, He says.
00:30:39
I have nothing but, ah, kudos and props to all the East Coast Laker fans that have been holding it down because these games are on so late at night.
00:30:49
I understand your pain.
00:30:51
I've been doing this faithfully my entire life, man like that, the late nights watching Shaq and Kobe play.
00:31:01
And then, like I at that point staying up, especially if they won watching SportsCenter and the highlights afterwards till, like, two in the morning, they get up and go to school like, yeah, so I Hey, now, people in the West Coast, nobody feel because it was brutal for, like, 20 years.
00:31:20
Oh, my gosh.
00:31:21
Yeah, I was gonna ask what did you think? Uh, so we've had two days of this by wonder of Laker fans of justice if you don't watch any of the games yesterday, the 10 minute quarters.
00:31:30
So we talked at the beginning about the radio like that.
00:31:34
No fans of the radio commentary and stuff I got.
00:31:37
But that's so the 10 minute quarters are ending up the games or two hours on exactly two hours.
00:31:43
Pretty much.
00:31:44
What do you think of that? Is that affecting? Do you feel like the gains are short? Is it affecting your viewing experience? What? How do you feel about the time on those games? You know what? Like I didn't even notice it really like that.
00:31:56
Oh, so I knew they restored her, like, coming into all of this.
00:32:00
But until you mentioned it, I didn't even realize it.
00:32:04
Do you feel like that Extra? Because usually, um, I think if they do the 12 minute quarters and then they do that 30 minute halftime segment, it's a three hour production.
00:32:14
You're dedicating three hours watching basketball.
00:32:16
Do you like that? Do you like that? You basically get in our back out of the game.
00:32:21
I'm I'm genuinely curious, but I was like, Oh, down the game's done like I could go do other stuff now And I saw it like an extra hour that I normally would.
00:32:29
Yeah, like So.
00:32:31
Okay.
00:32:32
So, personally, I like that I have that extra hour back now, Like if it's a you know, the Lakers a plan.
00:32:38
I want them to have that extra eight minutes a game, especially.
00:32:41
They need that eight minutes than right.
00:32:45
But three hours is a long time, especially, and sometimes games drag on.
00:32:52
And it's kind of like, all right, you know, that's that's wrap this thing up.
00:32:55
But yeah, this was I feel like this.
00:32:59
This is appropriate.
00:33:00
Like, this is just enough time to me.
00:33:02
Yeah, like I don't see why this needed to be any longer than what it was tonight.
00:33:06
Yeah, I was just because if they if the reason why the only reason Masses, because you mentioned the East Coast West Coast thing, if they ever go back to the seven o'clock starts, which would be 10 o'clock here, at least it gets done by midnight.
00:33:20
Assuming there's no no overtimes or anything I got like that still seems like a pretty reasonable time for the game, then well, I guess it's not true if you have kids and stuff I got.
00:33:29
But like Midnight, okay, But if compared to sleeping at 1 a.
00:33:34
m.
00:33:35
every night on a seven start like that's, that's even worse, especially if the games go down to the wire.
00:33:39
So I thought it was really interesting.
00:33:41
I kind of enjoyed it.
00:33:43
Um, it's just something.
00:33:44
I'm curious.
00:33:45
They really I think they're only doing it for the scrimmages.
00:33:47
They're not doing it for a all right regular season itself.
00:33:49
I got.
00:33:50
So I'm just curious to see how that kind of format the reception is from Laker fans and other folks around, um, on it.
00:33:58
So that's all right.
00:33:59
That was my only additional thing I wanted to talk about ask you about.
00:34:02
You know, I I didn't realize it, which like, but it's good.
00:34:06
I'm looking at the clock now.
00:34:07
It's just about 10 o'clock here on the East Coast and, like, I feel like all right, still got a couple hours to kind of get some other things done.
00:34:13
I want to get done and like, Yeah, it's fine.
00:34:16
So I enjoyed it.
00:34:18
Um, I didn't realize that. That's so crazy.
00:34:21
So but basketball is back.
00:34:24
Like it is a fact that that's father about.
00:34:26
It's a celebration.
00:34:28
We're back in.
00:34:29
Lakers play again on Saturday.
00:34:30
So, um, I'm happy, man.
00:34:32
You're happy.
00:34:33
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00:34:55
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00:00:29
Welcome to the Lakers Central podcast, where I discussed the most famous basketball team on the planet with the biggest, brightest and up and coming voices in sports and culture.
00:00:38
Lakers basketball is back.
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00:01:21
So check out that episode on the crossover podcast when it drops on Monday.
00:01:27
Been a basketball is back, man basketball is back.
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Not yet.
00:01:34
No, it didn't come back yesterday.
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It's back today.
00:01:36
Basketball is back.
00:01:38
It just you know, Alex, it feels like the timeline, the energy on the timeline today It was just it was just different, right? Like I mean, that's what came back yesterday.
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No, people are excited.
00:01:48
But today it's like it really feels like the season just restarted.
00:01:52
Maybe at about 4 p.m.
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Pacific standard time, because it is a little different today.
00:01:57
I can't believe it, man.
00:01:58
I mean, yesterday, you know, people were getting goose bumps and talking about the Lakers being back.
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And then today it just felt different.
00:02:06
Man, it felt different.
00:02:08
And I was watching the game, and I know there weren't really fans in the stands or whatever.
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I mean, just to scrimmage game is not even a riel a season game yet, but it didn't feel that different.
00:02:18
Yeah, just And and maybe it's It's just been, you know, 34 months since we've seen regular basketball, but it didn't even feel that different to me.
00:02:26
Yeah, I was gonna say, probably outside of like that.
00:02:29
I know it almost felt like I I watched some of the games yesterday also, and it felt like I could actually focus on the game a little bit more like it's I usually, um, mute the broadcast anyways, because I'm usually like streaming on my laptop for something I got are streaming into my TV, so I'll mute it.
00:02:47
Um, I thought it was great.
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You know, I can't.
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There's nothing else to look at.
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Like outside of going cutting to commercial.
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There's no like side commentary.
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Nothing like that.
00:02:57
So if you and ah, I think I was watching the Nets broadcast or Africa, which the very first game I don't know, it may have been the Clippers game.
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They were.
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The guy who was doing the play by play was doing it like it was the radio.
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I was like, Oh, this is great, Like I didn't mind that also about now that's an acquired taste.
00:03:14
But I did not miss listening to the nonsense takes from the more national media guys, but we'll see how that works out in when the regular season starts.
00:03:23
But they met hats off the Adam silver hats off to all the N B A.
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Players.
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Hats off to the coaches, the staff, everybody that's making that bubble possible.
00:03:33
This is a pretty amazing experience, Um, for as like, out of normal cir***stances, that it is, it is mad.
00:03:42
I mean, look, um, the Lakers are back and LeBron and Anthony Davis they look really good.
00:03:49
I mean, all things considered with the lay own, you know, they only played 15 minutes apiece, but they look like they they picked up right where they dropped off that in march.
00:04:03
Yeah, I think that's a beautiful thing.
00:04:06
Yeah, Lakers timeline definitely let people know that, uh, that they were that they were rolling.
00:04:10
So, um, I didn't see any rust from them, but obviously, you know, it's also you also get like, those of those games where you just can't miss itself.
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I got It's the first game.
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You just getting all the energy, Alex.
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So I'm sure they'll have some.
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We'll regress to the mean or something.
00:04:25
I got broad. Looked good.
00:04:27
He looked spry.
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80 look good. It he looks fried.
00:04:30
There was they changed that that first rotation up a little bit on the LeBron.
00:04:35
Set out for a little bit longer than they normally do before they bring him back for the second quarter.
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Usually Broncos for a three minute break at the end of the first, and then he starts.
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The 2nd 80 sits on the bench, And he did.
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They didn't do that today.
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Ah, the bronze sat on the bench for like, an extra three minutes Um, and the reason why was because Mr Philly cheese himself, the odd waiters Ah, hit that.
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I think that buzzer beater at the other the first quarter.
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So, uh, yeah, it was good, man.
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It was It's, you know, a lot of us.
00:05:10
A lot of Laker fans like myself have hitched our wagons, and we believe in Dion waiters.
00:05:14
And, um, I think today we got, like, a sample, a small taste of how he can be clearly some things to work out.
00:05:21
Bo, what do you think of his debut? Ah, with the Lakers, it went great.
00:05:28
Like I wasn't expecting a 20 point game or 30 point game, anything like that.
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So it's important to keep it within its proper context.
00:05:36
Um, I wasn't even expecting nine points.
00:05:40
That's what he had. Nine points.
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Three for seven shooting.
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Um, that's amazing.
00:05:45
The dude I don't play basketball like a year.
00:05:48
You know, I'm saying, like, kids and playing like a year.
00:05:51
And it wasn't so much about how he shot the ball as much as like, his energy.
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Energy was great.
00:05:58
And, you know, Dion waiters has been a lot of people joke about him that you know, he's a Mim, you know, they make fun of him all the time, and so he can very much be down on himself.
00:06:09
But for him to come out and with that kind of energy and for the team, you know, clearly rally around him, hit that big three at the end of the quarter, man, he's gonna be He's gonna be a key piece.
00:06:25
I mean, he played, what, 13 minutes? He can give the Lakers nine points in 13 minutes.
00:06:31
You get a night? I mean, that's the Lakers need that right? Like they needed at all season at all.
00:06:36
I don't think I don't think we're gonna see too many situations where, uh, Anthony Davis and LeBron James are gonna be off the floor at the same time.
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But you could tell.
00:06:46
I mean, there's there's good, and there's bad, right? So that there was a bunch of sequences when he was on the floor, where he got, like, completely lost.
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He didn't even know who he was defending.
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His guy was left like, wide open.
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That's all stuff that they'll clean up.
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You know, um, as a rotation, it comes.
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We didn't have Caruso tonight because it was a late scratch.
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And Caruso helps tighten up some of that rotation because he kind of helps direct the offense.
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He makes that extra help, help help rotation over itself again.
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But you could tell that, um, you know, if Dion really, really wanted to, he could probably go to the rim every single time out of those pick and roll plays.
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But you could tell he was trying.
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He was trying to keep javale involved. At times.
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He was trying to keep Dwight involved.
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I actually think that that pick and roll would have been better.
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Um, but because JaVale and Dwight have spent so much time playing those pick and roll situations with Rondo that data, they they probably don't even realize that, like, oh, dear, I was gonna go to the rim and easy have drop it to me because he's gonna go the extra guy.
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So a couple times you could you could see, like Dwight, just like bobble the boy for him.
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I think it was just like reps and I wonder of what's what's going to end up happening is as the scrimmages go on as they get more reps itself.
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I got to get live reps against, like, switching, you know, different defenses.
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I wonder if that ends a big, much better.
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Um, the other thing, Uh, I thought was Ah, there is only one bowl ban Marjanovic in the league that at that size, Um, and I would suspect that that Dion pick and roll with Dwight in Trouville is probably gonna be better when it's not bull bad standing in the middle of the paint, Uh, and so that because you can't move them out of the way.
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It's almost impossible to shoot around him.
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But I think that that action probably is gonna look a little bit.
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The Lakers look really good running that GHO accent, the dribble handoff action to KCP Um, and you know it.
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It just looks good.
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It I have a good feeling about you could see this.
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You could see where they could just keep running the same sets over and over again and being successful at it, it just seemed like with with Dion, um, it was just reps.
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A soon as he gets more comfortable and he gets comfortable, um, there, you know, coaches will tell coaches talk about this You if you played any structured basketball, you know this Like it takes a little bit of time to know where everybody is always gonna be when I run this action.
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When I make this move, when I make this decision for this to dribble to the free throw line toe freeze jail the guy behind me, where are my guys? That and you could tell Dion didn't know that just yet.
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And I feel like as soon as it is assumed that clicks firm, we're gonna be good and ah, all the like exactly what you mentioned nine points in 13 minutes, um, saw a lot of good opportunities, Had a lot of drop off passes I got, you know, blocked by bull, banned by, you know, building block and wider.
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Ah, javale.
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He looks good, man.
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I don't think his integrations gonna be that hard.
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And I loved that His first possession of the game Waas the Oh, we almost lost it.
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We almost turned it over.
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He scrambles, gets it back.
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Now he's in a one on one situation.
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Shouldn't beats his guy off the dribble, Pulls up, makes it like that kind of improvisational stuff.
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is like what we've been missing out of that bench unit.
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And, um, look, I'm just happy.
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I'm just happy that you have a nice debut.
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Obviously, you know, that doesn't mean we're gonna win the championship.
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But it's good to see that we have a guy who is confident in himself when it comes to scoring and won't just settle for a long three or along two or something like that.
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Yeah, I agree.
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I mean, look, I think it was Trudeau said during the broadcast that, you know, originally, Rondo's injury was gonna have him out 68 weeks.
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Now they're saying for the six, and you know, Vogel would like to integrate him back into the lineup.
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And I was watching that game, and I'm thinking, Oh, vocals going have a problem.
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Tom Rondo gets back.
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If Caruso was playing the way that most of us expect, Crusoe to play and and waiters is doing what waiters is capable of, there's no place to play Rondo.
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They give you.
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There's no reason to play him at that point, so I hope that vocal doesn't try to shoot shoehorn him and for the sake of it.
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But, um it vote if Caruso and waiters is doing their thing, and then we haven't even gotten to J. R.
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You know, we had a big three, obviously, and he had six points tonight.
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But if those guys are playing the way that we think they can, then we're going to go.
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I mean, usually when when Rondo comes in the game, the offense gets really stagnant.
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Yeah, the the Lakers opponent goes on Ah, 6 to 8 point run to start the second quarter's Lakers Go go down.
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Then you gotta rush LeBron back in the game.
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It's this happens time and time again.
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So, um, to your point waiters, if things get a little dicey, he's he's for whatever reason.
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He's comfortable, like in scramble mode, like everyone else is like scrambling.
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He's like, calm.
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Somehow it's there.
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It's, um, you know, uh, waiters originally got doctor by Cleveland, right? And famously, there was ah lot of chatter in Cleveland.
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This is before LeBron came back about how Kyrie and waiters would clash when it came to their style of play.
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You know, waiters wants the ball in his hand.
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Carry wants a ball on his head.
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They're both their Their style of game is built from the same cloth that, um, the Jaeckel just had that song that just came out.
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Ah, I forgot.
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What the what? The verses in this song.
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It just came out.
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Last night's the client back, but he says something like, um, you know, like my guys run the Was it my guy Shoot the ball like they've never run the point or something like that.
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More two guards and waiter I butchered the lyrics so you guys can look it up whoever's watching, but, ah, well, and there's words I can't say on on the on the Livestream anyways.
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But he's a two guard.
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He's he's small to guard.
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He's Randy Foye.
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He's Brandon Roy.
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He's These guys that are are are just flat out scores.
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But because of their height, they get put into this mold where they gotta be point cards.
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And that's a little that's like what Kyrie is Qari conduct the dimes can, you know, improvise in situations where you need them to score in all its something like that.
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But that clash happens because waiters is the same kind of guy, and, um, I think that's the part that, like fans who don't watch intimately or don't see, like, kind of the skill sets up, they don't realize that that's what he is.
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He's not a two guard, he's not.
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He's just a score.
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And the fact that the Lakers are just telling him, Hey, look, go do what you have. We're gonna give you the space.
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Dwight's gonna give you such a good screen that you're literally gonna get like five feet around you.
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It's in a circle and somebody may be waiting for you at the rim.
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But just do what you gotta go do and the fact that he's still willing to, you know, drop those passes to Dwight and Surveillance if I got that's great to see.
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I think it's also testament to what Spoelstra's done over in Miami because they he help kind of build that habit, you know, wait for that late read and stuff like that.
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So he's a good fit man.
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I don't know how else to describe him.
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Um, he is the volume score that that bench needs.
00:14:00
Caruso knows how to play defense.
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He knows how to rotate.
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Koosman knows where he has to stand on the court for that open, open jumper.
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Once it comes to him, Keith knows where.
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Yes, the defensive Dwight knows he has to rim run on that.
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So we just need somebody who shoot the ball that we don't need any more unselfishness on the Lakers.
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I already have too much of it right now because that's mobilised principle.
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So I think he's gonna be easy to fit like a glove man.
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I and I'm just glad to see that he got his minutes, Um, tonight and, you know, like I said, small sample size.
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But there is a lot of good things to see in the way that he reads the floor and makes his decisions.
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He's gonna have a game where I don't know if that happen in these 88 8 regular season games, but he's gonna have a game where he's just gonna keep going to the rack every single time and just getting layups and drawing fouls.
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And he's really good at that as well.
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So I'm I'm I'm on board Waiters island eso we'll get No, I am, too.
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And you mentioned the white in jail.
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I mean, they picked up where they left off at They combined for 22 points.
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I mean, you know, Vogel likes running those bigs on the court with Anthony Davis, and they look good.
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Also getting winded.
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They didn't look out of shape.
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I mean, this is one of the positives about having a veteran team.
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I think we have a younger team.
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Those guys. Oh, we got three months off.
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Let me not work out as much.
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Let me kind of party a little bit more.
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Let me do whatever these guys look like.
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All of them stayed in shape and they played like it.
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What did you see from coos, man? I mean, he was 13.
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He still looked a little.
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So So what I was more interested in seeing with Cruz was like his spry nous.
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I didn't I didn't know if you come out and shoot, obviously.
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You know, Vogel said that he was shooting the lights out, and so you give one part of the only I mean, I guess I don't I'm not gonna question, but it was an amazing job.
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Ah, as a coach, and I think he's always stayed, like, kind of even killed itself like a I think, um I think Koosman look spry.
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That was the part that I was more interested in saying, Does he? Is he, um he doesn't have a quick first step.
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His handle is also not good.
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Um, Koosman does this thing Where when he dribbles with his right hand when he wants to, like, act like he's gonna cross you over a major move, he sticks his left hand out Or, like, really far away.
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Like as if he's trying to keep himself balanced and always cracks me up when I see that, but that's usually like Hallmark of Okay, this guy can't really dribble, so that's gonna be you know? You know what? You in which direction? He's gonna go in.
00:16:26
Um and so the main thing I was looking to see, it was his spine iss.
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And there was a lot of plays.
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Um, I want to say he took a three.
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He missed it.
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He took another jumper.
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He missed it.
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But then on the third possession, there was a corner kick out to him.
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I'm just doing this by memory right now, um, where he pump fake and he got the guy slipping.
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The guy the guy overplayed closed out too hard.
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He drove real heart attack the room. He had a layup.
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But he did that thing that Lonzo used to do his rookie year where he'd have, like, a layup.
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And they just kept he passed out of it, thinking that he should make the extra pass.
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So on the read side, um, obviously still needs some work.
00:17:02
But, um, I'm glad to see him moving around really well on the offensive end.
00:17:07
So that's good on the defensive end, he was doing some high school stuff that you're not supposed to do.
00:17:13
Like he was turning his hips, letting Luca basically giving Luca Lane.
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And then he'd overplay that Lane and Aluko hit him with, like, Ah, I think he hit it twice or three times in a row where you hit him with a behind the back left or right.
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Ah, dribble And then got the lay up and I was just like, all right, I think this is just what we're gonna do here.
00:17:33
We just gotta let have just keep searching directions on you and stuff like that.
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But right, Like I said, you know, this is this is you know who's was Bash Black, who has always been something that's went up for debate.
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But I'm glad to see that he's moving well because I was concerned about his ankle on his foot injuries and how much he was affecting himself like a nice to see him grab a lob and dunk it, I said, Yeah, nice to see him, like, kind of have some synergy.
00:17:56
I think he benefits probably the most from having somebody like LeBron Ah be the point card on the court because he's not very.
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He's not very good at like making like the right decision based on what he sees.
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It's more like Okay, LeBron has a ball, so I need to be ready like I got to be active.
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I gotta keep my head up and cut in that sort of thing.
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So it was good.
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I just got to see if you get better.
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But, you know, obviously will mind.
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Or his shooting for for 13 isn't good.
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I will say you miss a lot of easy floaters that he usually makes a lot of those little short hop floaters that he takes.
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It felt like he was kind of letting them go little early.
00:18:32
Um, it may have been because posing a symbol of Obama there, like, just affect shots just by standing there self, you know, that's what I was.
00:18:41
What did you think of his debut? There were times that I felt like he was forcing it a little bit like there were a couple mid range jumpers when I just felt like, Come on, man, you don't need to take that shot and he's capable of making them.
00:18:57
But who's does this thing where, like he goes, that you'll miss a shot and the Lakers might get Dolphins? Every male, he gets it back and he liked takes a shot again, like he's act like trying to make up for that first miss.
00:19:10
Rather than just, you know, getting the ball to somebody else was an open shot or getting a better shot.
00:19:15
And he he still needs to find his place on this team.
00:19:20
He hasn't done that yet, and this has been a, you know, the craziest season, probably of all time.
00:19:26
So this isn't This is not an indictment of him as much as it is he just needs to find his place, and, um, this is not an excuse.
00:19:36
Marky Mark IV not playing tonight.
00:19:39
I think her cute hurts who's a bit as well, like marquee slots, coups and his rightful place.
00:19:45
So when we finally get to see Marquis back on the court next game, I'm sure that will help.
00:19:51
Who's out of it? So I want to see how you plays.
00:19:53
A marquee comes back, but I who's just needs to hit open shots.
00:19:59
Yeah, late play decent defense like he's not out there to be some kind of shut down defender, you know? But he moves that play decent defense and not get caught up in trying to be the third guy on on the court like that's it.
00:20:14
Like LeBron and Anthony Davis and then everybody else just do their job.
00:20:18
Don't get caught up in anything else.
00:20:19
Um, What did you see from J. R.
00:20:22
Smith, man? I mean, I was glad to see that he got 14 minutes.
00:20:25
Yeah.
00:20:27
Would you see from him? Yeah.
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Um, so I mean, so he was good.
00:20:31
He was kind of part of the reason why Dion was getting lost in his rotations.
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Cause them to We're trying to find out who They're like they're trying to pick up guys in transition, and I mean credit to Dallas.
00:20:41
That's kind of the game that they run that Azat think.
00:20:44
Unfortunately, three, they're all breaking out.
00:20:46
So you have to pick somebody up, uh, or find your assignment itself.
00:20:49
I got G r.
00:20:50
Look good, Um, from like in it from, like a energy and, um, energy and just kind of being out there.
00:20:59
Sandpoint, like somebody that you like, would have thought that like Like, I would have expected him to be, like, way out of shape, right being as far out of that small as he was.
00:21:06
But he was, like, serviceable.
00:21:08
I don't know if he cracks the rotation like, uh in the guard hierarchy, like, you know, it'll be Pope will be green.
00:21:17
Pope Caruso, Dion.
00:21:20
Maybe Rondo is there somewhere.
00:21:22
Slotted, Um, who's kind of moves up to that 23 guard kind of roll, depending on how big lineup is that the opposing teams play.
00:21:30
If it's like a big a big guy, like if it's a big wing like Jason Tatum or some I got those kind of guys, Um, so there's like a carousel of guys that they use.
00:21:39
I don't know.
00:21:40
Jr breaks into that rotation or if he's like a break in case of emergency sort of situation.
00:21:44
Um, but it was just good to see him run regular sets.
00:21:47
He was running the same Diego sets Where he takes a pin down screen, comes right across the free throw line.
00:21:52
He was clearly looking to passable.
00:21:54
He wasn't looking to score.
00:21:55
Yeah, which was interesting saving with the story.
00:21:58
It's like very similar to Dion like it seems as though they've been brought on board and Rob has made it very clear to both of them and probably rich as well that you know Vogel on the coaching staff as well that this is a team like we are a team.
00:22:12
The 1st 1st decision you should make is to like look for your teammates, see where you created the advantage, whether it's a pocket pass or whatever it is and set set up your teammates.
00:22:20
And so it's pretty clear that that's what they were doing.
00:22:22
Um, like I said, as this team kind of gets more reps Ah, and to get more used to playing with each other and knowing where everybody stands and stuff like that in some of these sets.
00:22:31
I think it will get easier because there's definitely some opportunities where J.
00:22:35
R caught the ball on the run and he could have easily just gone to the rim for, like, maybe a contested layup attempt.
00:22:41
But he just didn't do it.
00:22:43
You just kind of, like dribbled.
00:22:44
It kind of back out.
00:22:45
He kind of backed out with it, and I was like, All right, like, That's not Jr.
00:22:49
That's not Dion, like we know that you can go to the rim, so I think What's going on? I don't I don't know how much time the Lakers by gonna have to look at T.
00:22:56
But I wonder.
00:22:57
Vogel's probably if they get a chance to look at those sets, will probably tell both of those guys.
00:23:00
Hey, we believe in you.
00:23:02
This set is for you, you know, like usually when KCP runs out set, he catches it.
00:23:08
It's either a pull up jumper or if he sees that the, um who might think you have.
00:23:13
What if the center is out of position? It's a lob over the top right hand, and I think uh, KCP did a great job.
00:23:19
There was one where he ran the other way.
00:23:21
They ran like a reverse DHL where he went from the right side of the court to the left and, ah, what's it called Figure travail or somebody who just, like, kind of pitched it? Teoh kcp in case you want to go pull up on the baseline like he's gonna shoot it and then just floats it just just things, like very early in the game.
00:23:36
JaVale dunks it.
00:23:37
And so, like, that's a kind of action.
00:23:39
I think that Vogel is probably gonna tell, um, you know, Jr like, Hey, this is the kind of this is what we want to do.
00:23:46
Don't worry about it. Like, don't worry about missing shots.
00:23:48
Just keep making those plays itself. I got.
00:23:50
But it all depends on how quickly he moves into the depths. Chardin.
00:23:54
What? The Lakers trusting what? I don't know.
00:23:56
Quinn Cook's gonna really be, um, the guy like there was a stretch.
00:24:00
There was a stretch I want to say in the third quarter, where they were just picking on Quinn cook like every play.
00:24:05
I just gave you the curry and so don't go ahead.
00:24:08
Drive on Cook.
00:24:09
And I mean, no cookies.
00:24:10
A short.
00:24:11
He's a short shooting guard.
00:24:12
He's a point guard shooting around house point guard, side shooting guard.
00:24:15
So you know it.
00:24:17
It's no, nothing wrong with him.
00:24:18
It's just he's not physically equipped to deal with bigger guards.
00:24:21
So, um, Jr my jr might leapfrog him or somebody got in that situation.
00:24:26
So, um, he looked good, Man, I didn't really have high expectations for him because I don't know how many minutes he's really gonna get with this roster.
00:24:33
Lakers like 14 deep today.
00:24:35
So I don't know if we should expect that to continue to happen as it gets closer to the regular season now.
00:24:41
I don't think so.
00:24:42
I mean, well, the last person I want to ask you about tailing Horton talker, everybody had to talk about it.
00:24:49
Everybody wanted to see him.
00:24:51
I mean, he played 13 minutes.
00:24:54
Yeah.
00:24:55
What did you think, man? I thought he forced it a bit, but it's a scrimmage.
00:24:58
But what do you think? It looks like a rookie.
00:25:00
Bet that's exactly what you look like.
00:25:02
Ah, airballed his first shot barely graze the Rim, I think on the 2nd 1 uh, he looks like a rookie that there's not the Rob.
00:25:11
You could tell that he was much more comfortable as the game progressed.
00:25:14
Once he kind of objected to the speed of the game.
00:25:17
At least on the offensive end, I feel like he did a much better job.
00:25:20
Ah, I would say that, uh, you know, his rotations on defense where you know, he was getting a little lost here and there.
00:25:27
But again, this is We're talking about a Geely guy being thrust into N B A basketball.
00:25:32
And he's being asked a guard, guys who have gotten real nb minutes, but he had some nice action men in transition.
00:25:39
Once he gets once, he's running full gate, You kind of get to see the whole go go gadget arms that he has.
00:25:44
Um, you had a lot of left or right crosses where he finished with a lot of English off off the glass.
00:25:50
Um, he had one that he missed, but he snuck it by boat.
00:25:54
Ben, But I was trying time up.
00:25:55
Uh, his time that block and he got is he stretched out just enough to get enough English off.
00:26:01
Um, I think it just rolled off the side of the room, but it's good to see that he's not afraid, You know, on rum, that's that's one of the things.
00:26:09
And I know there's, um, many Laker conspiracy theorists that think that if he's going to eventually, um, if he is what we think he can be and what he's shown in the GE Li, you may eventually make his way into the regular rotation by next year, Um, as he gets more reps in game time and something I got.
00:26:27
So, um, otherwise, you look good, you know, like I I didn't expect him again.
00:26:32
Teoh be spectacular out the gate.
00:26:35
But it's good to see that his physicality, his athleticism, sort of matches up with what it is.
00:26:41
And I think one thing Laker fans should always take take um away from these when rookies play.
00:26:47
Um, is that the There's physical are sorry.
00:26:52
There is gain when we talk about game speed.
00:26:54
Sometimes it's a physical thing, how fast they run, how strong they are, the athleticism.
00:26:59
But there's also a mental speed to the game, that player out to adjust to and the mental speed is what we complain about when we talk about coups mazelike you.
00:27:09
It seems like sometimes you can watch his brain processing as he's playing.
00:27:13
And it's good to see that tail in.
00:27:15
For the most part, um, is not didn't suffer from that initially, Um, he may, as he starts getting, like, more like better defenders guarding and stuff like that.
00:27:26
But, um, you look good, man.
00:27:27
I'm hyped form.
00:27:28
I know there's a lot of people on Lakers.
00:27:29
Twitter, Um, the SB nation guys, Um, and there are a lot of, like, prominent Laker fans of Lakers twitter that are very high on Taylan.
00:27:38
So, um, I'm glad to see him.
00:27:40
He's in the elite player.
00:27:42
Um, and I think he could be, you know, an elite player because of all the intangibles that he has and all the tools that he has.
00:27:50
So, you know, it's good.
00:27:52
I'm glad to see I'm a guy that he got his debut on the national stage.
00:27:57
I like tailing a lot, man.
00:27:58
I mean, look that I think you can see his skill set.
00:28:01
His skill set is there.
00:28:03
Um, I've said this all year long and I'm gonna say it even tonight after seeing him play.
00:28:10
There's no reason to rush this kid like, I think, play him tonight playing in this scrimmages because you obviously want to protect LeBron and those guys.
00:28:17
You also you also want to play tailing.
00:28:20
You want to give him an opportunity, but I don't.
00:28:23
I think he's still a year to away and you know he's role.
00:28:28
He's still very roll.
00:28:29
Yeah, it is like like Ingram.
00:28:31
When he first came to, the Lakers were watching Ignorant.
00:28:33
He was struggling with physical, the physical newsworthy beat.
00:28:37
Then he had like, that stretcher is OK, I see it.
00:28:39
I could see what he can come, but he has a lot. He has a ways to go.
00:28:43
It's the same thing.
00:28:44
Yeah, yet Dehlin looks like you got a lot of talent.
00:28:46
There was a number of times and I saw him get to the basket.
00:28:49
Boban was there, and I'm like, Yeah, Boban is intimidating just because he's huge, right? But like don't like its times that I get remember Audi box he had today here he dwarfs Dwight, and Dwight's not a little guy tailing.
00:29:03
He does somehow manage to still get the ball up around Boban, which is impressive.
00:29:08
And that's his wingspan, obviously.
00:29:10
And so, yeah, he's got a bright future.
00:29:13
Um, but there, you know, there's a number of fans that that think that he should be getting minutes now and she should be out there for this.
00:29:21
This playoff push and all this stuff? None.
00:29:23
And he's not ready.
00:29:25
Um, but I like the kid.
00:29:28
I think that he's got a bright future.
00:29:29
Hope the Lakers keep him around.
00:29:31
I think he's there for the long haul for two specific reasons.
00:29:36
31 He does that talent to.
00:29:40
He's a clutch client.
00:29:41
And three, his salary is so low.
00:29:44
And the Lakers were gonna be start hunting that it probably behooves them to keep him on the roster because of salary reasons, in other words, so But hey, man, the Lakers look good.
00:29:55
I know we lost tonight.
00:29:56
Win or lose.
00:29:58
To me, it didn't really matter.
00:29:59
I was looking to see how they came out.
00:30:01
The energy, things like that.
00:30:02
They look fine.
00:30:04
They play Orlando on Saturday at 12 o'clock Eastern.
00:30:08
That's 9 a.m. for you Cali folks.
00:30:10
Um so I'm on the East Coast right now, so I get to enjoy not having to stay up, that I did not know until I mean, there's not been any basketball pitiless point, but I'm always coming out to Georgia every year.
00:30:24
And, ah, it's usually around the holiday.
00:30:26
So it's like the Thanksgiving Games or the Christmas Games and Mad Iron.
00:30:31
The first couple times I did, I was like, Yo, people on the East Coast Gotta Laci's gaze at 10 PM starts other, He says.
00:30:39
I have nothing but, ah, kudos and props to all the East Coast Laker fans that have been holding it down because these games are on so late at night.
00:30:49
I understand your pain.
00:30:51
I've been doing this faithfully my entire life, man like that, the late nights watching Shaq and Kobe play.
00:31:01
And then, like I at that point staying up, especially if they won watching SportsCenter and the highlights afterwards till, like, two in the morning, they get up and go to school like, yeah, so I Hey, now, people in the West Coast, nobody feel because it was brutal for, like, 20 years.
00:31:20
Oh, my gosh.
00:31:21
Yeah, I was gonna ask what did you think? Uh, so we've had two days of this by wonder of Laker fans of justice if you don't watch any of the games yesterday, the 10 minute quarters.
00:31:30
So we talked at the beginning about the radio like that.
00:31:34
No fans of the radio commentary and stuff I got.
00:31:37
But that's so the 10 minute quarters are ending up the games or two hours on exactly two hours.
00:31:43
Pretty much.
00:31:44
What do you think of that? Is that affecting? Do you feel like the gains are short? Is it affecting your viewing experience? What? How do you feel about the time on those games? You know what? Like I didn't even notice it really like that.
00:31:56
Oh, so I knew they restored her, like, coming into all of this.
00:32:00
But until you mentioned it, I didn't even realize it.
00:32:04
Do you feel like that Extra? Because usually, um, I think if they do the 12 minute quarters and then they do that 30 minute halftime segment, it's a three hour production.
00:32:14
You're dedicating three hours watching basketball.
00:32:16
Do you like that? Do you like that? You basically get in our back out of the game.
00:32:21
I'm I'm genuinely curious, but I was like, Oh, down the game's done like I could go do other stuff now And I saw it like an extra hour that I normally would.
00:32:29
Yeah, like So.
00:32:31
Okay.
00:32:32
So, personally, I like that I have that extra hour back now, Like if it's a you know, the Lakers a plan.
00:32:38
I want them to have that extra eight minutes a game, especially.
00:32:41
They need that eight minutes than right.
00:32:45
But three hours is a long time, especially, and sometimes games drag on.
00:32:52
And it's kind of like, all right, you know, that's that's wrap this thing up.
00:32:55
But yeah, this was I feel like this.
00:32:59
This is appropriate.
00:33:00
Like, this is just enough time to me.
00:33:02
Yeah, like I don't see why this needed to be any longer than what it was tonight.
00:33:06
Yeah, I was just because if they if the reason why the only reason Masses, because you mentioned the East Coast West Coast thing, if they ever go back to the seven o'clock starts, which would be 10 o'clock here, at least it gets done by midnight.
00:33:20
Assuming there's no no overtimes or anything I got like that still seems like a pretty reasonable time for the game, then well, I guess it's not true if you have kids and stuff I got.
00:33:29
But like Midnight, okay, But if compared to sleeping at 1 a.
00:33:34
m.
00:33:35
every night on a seven start like that's, that's even worse, especially if the games go down to the wire.
00:33:39
So I thought it was really interesting.
00:33:41
I kind of enjoyed it.
00:33:43
Um, it's just something.
00:33:44
I'm curious.
00:33:45
They really I think they're only doing it for the scrimmages.
00:33:47
They're not doing it for a all right regular season itself.
00:33:49
I got.
00:33:50
So I'm just curious to see how that kind of format the reception is from Laker fans and other folks around, um, on it.
00:33:58
So that's all right.
00:33:59
That was my only additional thing I wanted to talk about ask you about.
00:34:02
You know, I I didn't realize it, which like, but it's good.
00:34:06
I'm looking at the clock now.
00:34:07
It's just about 10 o'clock here on the East Coast and, like, I feel like all right, still got a couple hours to kind of get some other things done.
00:34:13
I want to get done and like, Yeah, it's fine.
00:34:16
So I enjoyed it.
00:34:18
Um, I didn't realize that. That's so crazy.
00:34:21
So but basketball is back.
00:34:24
Like it is a fact that that's father about.
00:34:26
It's a celebration.
00:34:28
We're back in.
00:34:29
Lakers play again on Saturday.
00:34:30
So, um, I'm happy, man.
00:34:32
You're happy.
00:34:33
Everybody again.
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