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Well, actually, we'll start with this because we're talking about the bubble.
We're talking about all the n b A teams and what their opportunities are as they head back into things in Orlando three o'clock today is we're talking about the Clippers be underway to kick this thing off where way all want to just watch any form of real basketball.
And I think last time we talk I still seated is being kind of like when you watch the, um, you know, the best of the college All American McDonald's games or when you want the off season, What kind of become a little bit of combines scouting for N B A like That's where my my mental visual is right now.
What? I also think that not unlike what MLS has done it once it goes live on TV, I'm gonna look at and go, Yeah, yeah, this is Basketball is a professional basketball. I'm fine.
Um, yeah, I hope I still know how to like watch it.
But I mean, other than I feel like all my ****ysis now is just like it's based on.
I'm like, so deep in on numbers now because it's all I've stared at that I'm like I hope I still know how to, like, watch the game because it just didn't go away.
I'd be like, Oh, my God, Yeah past Yeah, statistically speaking, Yeah, that's what I would have anticipated him to do there exactly a linear model right here instead of an actual like basketball fan.
So So one of the what on teams that three foot four days ago, I would have not been so interested about in the bubble is the Indiana Pacers.
But now all the sudden Victor Oladipo is just kind of popped up.
He's he's shooting around.
He may be involved.
Let's start there with the Pacers.
Do you think it is a lot of people just gonna be playing in the bubble now? It seems like it, right? Like I don't know why he's got a contract coming up in 2021.
So he's just starting missed so much time.
I mean, that's the part that I keep coming back to is like, uh, I don't know, like, I don't know if he's ready, but it's like, you know what, man like this guy, ever since he really, you know, was had the degree of success that he had with those two All Star selection to believe this to um, he Ah, he hasn't had the greatest press run.
It's nothing that he you know.
It's not his fault, obviously, but it really just has been this injury.
That's been a strange thing to recover from for him.
So again, with a contract on the horizon, Um, and he's kind of on the border like Is he a superstars? He a star? What type of money do you give him? He just teetering on that border.
If he could have a big, big performance in Orlando, I think that will make at least certain teams minds.
Andi has already been thrown around in a bunch of rumors, which I think we could get into.
But well, you know, it is weird because they had all for that extension.
I think it was the four year for 80 so they were basically looking to give him the same contract that he already has making.
21 million doubled down on that, and I think it's around the idea of while you've been injured, So maybe we're going to get a little bit of a discount here and old people scoffed at that publicly off.
The other element against the far is in playing or not is that I remember when he initially said it, it was, you know, I'm still coming back to this injury.
I don't want to risk it.
Yep, The only thing I I thought about was I know that if you opt out of planning in the bubble for whatever reason, then you don't get compensation for those games.
That's the choice that you're making.
So for Victor, he says, I'm opting in.
But I'm also you have to commit to going down there and then I guess, quote unquote doing your rehab process.
So maybe that's why we're seeing him shoot around.
He still doesn't plan on playing that maybe the nickel world, this suddenly scrimmages and exhibitions starting your like.
I know the thrill of people is nowhere to be found.
He's just down there with your team trainer, so that will be interesting to, and I guess, Well, let's touch on what you said.
The interesting value of Victor Oladipo.
I mean, we feel it feels like we talk about this so much, guys that can play defense and also have offensive output.
Those are rarities.
Victory vehicle was one of those guys.
Is there? Is there a reason why beyond the injury, the Pacers, Maybe you're hedging their bets in terms of what type of contract they want to offer him to bring him back.
I mean, that's just a small market team that, like they they're one of those teams that they prefer to make the playoffs versus not make the playoffs.
They don't necessarily care.
I I almost think you could argue that they care more about making the playoffs than, like, you know, hey, let's try to get this once in a generation talent, usually through the draft.
That's how you're going to do that.
If you're a small market team, they like to tread water and see Hey, maybe the highs get us into a finals or get us into ah conference finals at the very least, like they did with Paul George.
So, um, I think the reach they're always gonna look to retain good players.
A team like Indiana is just That's gonna be their focus.
Um, and, you know, maybe maybe Victor Oladipo isn't, you know, per se the perfect number one guy which we get into, I think every stream, But, um, you know, you built a really strong cast around him.
Maybe something out differently.
This bubble's gonna be weird.
I think there's gonna be, you know, I don't know about guys testing positive.
I really hope not.
But you never know.
With injuries, these guys haven't played in three months.
So therefore, really? So you know, I think anything could happen.
And that's kind of what the Pacers air betting on their betting on that big.
Just with all the uncer*****y going on even into next season, Um, they're going, they're gonna go for it with him and keep him under contract for a long as they possibly can.
So even then is inside this bubble.
There's a little bit hard, because if Victor plays, then you kind of have to look at this and say, Yes, they certainly could leave upsets and teams in the early rounds.
But is there any real outlook in the bubble before? That's what I want to move to what I want.
I want to look at next season and it's going to play as we know.
Um, and their schedule is gonna look like after the scrimmage games, they're gonna have the Sixers, the Wizards, the Magic, the sun's Ah, the Lakers and the Heat was their 1st 61 of the last two gonna end up being there on.
Then we'll get the Rockets and then the heat again.
So I guess the heat games are technically interesting in there.
They do get a lot of of soft lobs, I'll say with ministers in the Magic and even the sun's included in there.
So I mean, you know, there, wait before you started this, like not the not the ***y team the year.
So you have to assume they're probably gonna play to a 500 record in this and still be in the playoffs regardless of the people being there or not.
But you don't anticipate them upsetting.
I guess the apple cart in the Eastern Conference would be, ah, five succeed right now.
So you know they're gonna play, they're gonna play the heat.
Maybe if they shuffle the end up playing the Celtics, Let's say Celtics 76 years.
That's the group that they're in.
You wouldn't anticipate them upsetting any of those matchups.
I mean, like, unless he looks really, really amazing and like, looks like that guy who I think was knocking on the door with, like, Top 20.
I really think he was at his peak.
If he's that good, and Sabonis and Turner, who have figured it out, it was an awkward fit.
I think originally they kind of learned how to play a little bit more inside out most.
It would turn her, um, you know, sort of gravitating towards the three point line if they can figure that out.
Yeah, maybe they could upset like a Miami or somebody like that.
Just have a weird matchup that, you know, just playing.
Essentially going all in on size causes problems, for I don't think they would be.
You know, somebody like Toronto, especially.
But, uh, Boston.
I mean, I just I couldn't really pick them, you know, completely serious at any point.
All of the honest I'll put this out there, too.
I think they're so they're like the Utah Jazz of the East, where I just like there's just not that much that interests me with them at all.
Within a bubble like I'm Sparky. I ate.
I hate to do this, but, man, like I've tried to play out every scenario.
They're just like, I guess if all of Depo looks good, that's the thing to get excited about.
But, well, that was exciting.
Yeah, I mean, and they're a good team.
For sake of conversation, move past the bubble, regardless of what they do or don't do in there.
Even if Oladipo's in play, she's going to be in the last year of his contract next season.
When you Now, when you look in the office and we talk about this team and I guess the un***y Myles Turner and Sabonis that are on this roster, they won't have a draft pick next year.
They traded that first round pick, A way to bring in Brogden.
Braga is gonna be under contract through 2020 23.
What do you if I'm still here, by the way, Can you hear me? Yeah, yes, I can.
Yeah, I can tell you there's a whole This is like having an interview.
You know, it's great for people referencing.
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It's a nice yeah, nice smile on your face, so there's nothing to worry about.
Um, so as long as we can hear, you will keep it going broadcast way.
Go back to the old days of podcasting.
Um, what do you you know, you said it about keeping all the depot there as long as you can.
And the bottom line for small market franchises up.
If we make the playoffs, that means revenue.
And it really is that the business side of things? Could you anticipate any scenario where if older Depot starts the season out strong next year, they feel the trade offers may be predicated on the idea of when we look at our roster.
We've been able to be 39 26 before the shutdown to be a playoff team in the East without Victor Oladipo there.
So there's nothing to say.
We can't do it going forward without him.
Um, and maybe they just try to strike while the iron is hot and get some assets value assets back.
And is there anybody else on this roster? You think they should consider moving on from next year because the bonuses under big contract through 2024 but only a 21 million.
That's gonna arguably a be a bargain for them.
And Myles Turner after 2023 still 18 million.
Like they have a pretty nice contracts for the best quote unquote players on this roster right now.
Yeah, I would say right now you're not necessarily dealing, um, you know, all the depo from a place of organizational power.
So if you're dealing him right now, you're probably actually looking at his lowest value.
It really any point? I know he had a couple of he was a nice little five game stretch to end the year.
Ah, but right now, I still think you're gonna be dealing him at ba*****t value.
Myles Turner is the one I would flip.
I know they figured that out.
But Myles Turner is somebody that like I mean, look, the nets, that's a good That's a good position for him or somebody like that.
I mean, he's like he's honestly, like the ideal modern day centre in that he blocks shots.
I wish you could rebound a little better, but he blocked shots and he shoots three like that is that's That's something that a lot of teams in the league are gonna be lining up for, um and because that's really all you need, you need a low maintenance but five out put defense is in precarious situations and then protect the rim.
And he and he does that.
So, yeah, I like Myles Turner a lot.
Is he the kind of guy that for the next or otherwise we're like you say the next specifically makes me Then think right, Because maybe he doesn't rebound as well as you like, but whether it's DeAndre Jordan or long term Jared Allen, OK, Jared Allen.
Just get that ball for us, okay? Myles Turner do the things that Alan isn't necessarily.
It doesn't excel at.
And then you can.
You can shuffle him a little bit defensively offensively, and so you're kind of out there in the power forward almost because power forward center combo of Alan Turner or name any team in the league offers you the ability to accomplish what you want combined out of those two positions, even if you don't have the most well rounded individuals, Um, I mean, what's nice about him is like, he's a different look.
So, you know most teams.
I think like you confined rim rolling, um, shot blocking centers.
Kind of diamond dozen.
Nowadays, a lot of teams have one or two, even in the nets case.
Um, but Myles Turner is a different look.
Um, you know, you saw Dwayne Dedmon get paid out this last this last summer.
That was what by that the killer was the king's.
He got hit a ton of money because he could shoot threes at least for one season and blocked shots, a decent amount.
And he got this giant.
I think that for somebody like Myles Turner again, that skill said, it's something that a lot of teams will want.
You know, you want to be as versatile as possible for playoffs.
So he adds a different layer, I think, compared to most guys, his position.
Yeah, and the contract numbers are nice.
Like to be able tohave him over the next three seasons at 18 million is at Lewis, and we don't know where the caps gonna go and how that might be impacted next year.
But it's still a very favorable number for a player like that.
So I guess that this rolls into the next question, which was It was going to involve Turner.
But if you're if you're on the the thought process of him being the flammable asset, well, including all the Tebow, I guess, is him and Brogden and Sabonis do they represent the quote corner of this team? You know, there's not a lot of younger players that maybe over Excite you and Aaron Holiday and some, as you can tell, our names, that really excite you in terms of saying like the Sacramento Kings like the the Memphis Grizzlies, right? Just young talent that you know the names and you know that they're projecting very well, like the pelicans is there is the record for this team, Or is it just the sum of pieces that accomplishes, as we said, accomplishes the goal of B A playoff team in the East? Make make this a successful business model and we really don't worried too heavily about who it is that accomplishes that older than goal.
I mean, yeah, I just don't know what their options are like similar to Utah.
Like what are they like with Utah? Are they gonna build around Donovan Mitchell and Tony Bradley like conversely, with the Pacers.
Like I don't know. Like I like Aaron.
Holiday is probably 1/3 guard, maybe maybe a backup guard.
So I think they're kind of walked into this.
I don't know what else they're gonna do. They gave t.
You know, that made this big trade for T.
J Warren, who has been really, really good for them.
Um, but they kind of are what they are.
They're a team of power forwards and centers and a really, really exciting, you know, Um a explosive garb.
That's kind of what they are at this moment in time.
So I think they're stuck with this is to be completely honest with you, we have any mention Brogden who's 27 to, right? I mean, I guess because you traded for him that this seems like the piece that obviously isn't going anywhere I get.
This would be the one, but and you're paying it still only patting him 22,000,023 million, the until 2023.
So, again, maybe this is also kind of moved to and why they tried to offer all the depo ah, $20 million.
Tension is like, let's keep everybody in a reasonable range.
Let's let's never pay anybody 35 or 40 million and cripple some other areas of the roster.
The last and the bonus is also on through 24 2024.
I'm just 21 million.
So everybody is in that nice, reasonable range, at least for the foreseeable future.
The last thing I guess we can kind of get out of here on this is when you look at the East and you think about where the heat are going to be.
Um, we've talked about the 70 Sixers.
They mean need to figure things out a little bit, just in terms of nets, we know we're gonna take a jump.
Is there any chance because after that, it gets a bit of a mixed bag.
Is there any chance of the Pacers find themselves in the ugly position of being the eight border 9/9 seed in the next couple of seasons and have to then maybe consider what it looks like in the Eastern Conference because you know the long term outlook to your point? This isn't a championship caliber team, and I don't know if they're the one piece away kind of team.
And if you don't bring back all the Depo, even though you'll still win games, you know, 567 seed, are they at risk it being less than a playoff team while knowing that they're never going to be a top two seed in the East of any guardian.
It like, if I'm being honest, they probably been in it since they first made the playoffs with all the Depo.
I just like the ceiling on this team isn't really there.
It's never really been there.
What would it look like on a championship team? So all the Depo I actually see him? Is it a really sweet third option? I think he's great as 1/3 option.
Is that really, really the defender? He You know he can shoot the three pretty well.
It's improved over the years.
I mean, he'd fit a lot better than say, I mean, some of the guys that we've seen his third bananas in your past, I would say he's probably even a better third banana than Cleveland.
Kevin love like, I just I like him a lot in that position.
He just fits bullet days.
You can see him playing a little bit of glue guy role, but with, like, star quality.
So I think he's in that role. Sabonis.
I don't even know what he looks like on a roof.
It's hard to picture because he's got such a unique skill set. It's fun.
Um, he could probably be 1/3 best player.
Why not? Right? Fourth best even.
Um, I don't know.
Look, there's some weirdest where these guys only exist inside of inside of the Pacers, right? Like I don't Yeah, Do they live anywhere else? And if they do live there are they Are they remotely fitting into anyone else's house? Yeah.
I mean, it's just such a well run franchise, and it's almost like that's their biggest enemy is that they're so well run that it kind of it's gonna make their They just tend to overachieve like totally bottom out, right? And they and you don't really have a real sense for like what these guys would look like in, like that ideal situation.
I don't know if that makes sense, but no, it will be because I think so.
It's like it just being being in middle of the road team means that you never You're never I think you're probably never fully ****yzing what you have or what you lack because you're always rate kind of there don't upset the apple cart and risk, you know, stripping away a player.
Now when it came to Paul George, that was just ultimately, what is this going toe? I'm not gonna come back.
That's the message getting sense.
And by the way, he's the easy case for superstar high level talent that had no interest in staying with the organization long term.
In spite of the fact that you're always in the mix and you're always in the house in the Eastern Conference plea here before we go, Interesting idea of we'll go Nets centric here.
Um, Myles Turner and Victor Old the Depo What? What's the package that you throw out there from the Nets perspective to bring those kind of pieces in to the to the Nets? Ross.
I mean, older people will be a fantastic because the defensive presence we already kind of highly the value of the Myles Turner.
Is there a package that you could see it? And let's let's have a listen.
I have to tell you just reported Jared Allen into it.
I said, Let's think that that's 100.
Jordan would be on the table in this completely pie in the sky dream.
But would you would you package up a lot of the young talent, including the Caris Levert, the Jared Allen contingent of the Nets roster to bring in those kind of guys? I don't know.
If they could really put together a package, it's gonna get both of those guys.
I just I don't see it personally.
I don't know why the Pacers would do that.
Even if you put Deng witty, Uh, you could do you know what you put in there, Claxton? Jared Allen Din Weighty Carousel.
Bert, the guys are good and, like they they're gonna be They'll have a lot of teams if they if they package those two, there will be a lot.
It seems, you know, chasing that cause those guys both I think pretty easily could fit on a championship roster.
Um and I mean, to be honest with you, like even for somebody like Caris, Levert isn't kind of all the depo.
What? You're hoping you can deliver turns into personally.
What? Yeah, that's it.
That's kind of the funny. They're about the same age.
It wasn't the defensive side of it, right? Like if if if you avert proved to be ah, quality defensive asset, then I think you hold patents.
So maybe it is really It's the Myles Turner side of it.
Would you would you put together the, you know, the Spencer Dinwiddie and probably Jared Allen.
Let's say you know something in that range to get a guy like Myles Turner because of perimeter, right? I like that trade a lot.
Yeah, I like that trade quite a bit.
Just just if they're interested in Den Witty and I really think they could be just add a little bit extra scoring punch.
I guess that would mean who their backup is.
Their backup point guard right now.
Is that what they're looking at? Yeah, e think so.
That's a pretty that's an interesting, um, rotation of Brogden and and Dinwiddie, both guys that can get to the rim pretty easily for Upton's a little bit more well versed offensively, but didn't what He's a good wrinkle for them.
I like that quite a bit.
I think that trade would be worth it for both sides.
You go all in with this? I guess.
The bonus and T J Warren front court.
That's I think that's a pretty interesting look for them.
So yeah, I would look at that.
We have a We have one in our chat.
Have you reported that Victor is looking to actually play? No, I haven't.
I haven't seen anything of that.
But I'm also I'm not a not a Pacers reporter.
I'm looking to bring on the Pacers reporter or is that my other channel? But no, I don't know.
Just doing scrimmages this week.
So just as well go out the door here.
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Nice way said at the top.
As far as far as we know, he's not gonna play.
That's what he said.
I think that he's just down there.
Teoh, meet the requirements to still get paid for the remainder of the season is probably is probably what it looks like, at least on the surface.
And I can't see him risking getting injured coming back specifically because he played, what, 13 games coming back from injury before the shutdown.
So it's just to me it's a really tight window to be the kind of guy that and what and what are you gonna be proving, Um, that you can't prove at the beginning of next season to possibly put that kind of feel her out there for the Pacers on other teams that might look to bring him in? Ah, that'll do it.
Listen, we ran hot and heavy on the Indiana Pacers, the least ***iest team toe watch in the bubble.
Arguably, I believe Lords owned, by the way, is the Colts guy.
I think he's out there in that area.
So, um, that could be why he's so intent on finding out about Oladipo Shocking news, man.
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