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Uh, were acquaintances at this point because of, uh, Dr you more than I talk to anybody this week.
So we're just hanging out all week.
Um, you kind of know the format of the show already.
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Um, let's do we got to do a news item your Tween about Bo Bullet with Three and David I that I like weird stuff.
I like things that make no sense on basketball courts.
So, like, let's let's wait, just give 50 minutes to the Oh, okay, let's talk thin.
This first happened there.
Is there still no confirmed exact list of who is in the Orlando bubble for the Nuggets? We have no idea.
So with that being said, pictures and videos that are coming out from the Nuggets accounts are really the best way to try and figure out who and who is not in the bubble.
Of course, we have had report reporting from Chris Haynes, who said that Tory Craig, Michael Porter Jr and Gary Harris were not in the bubble.
And then Eric Woodyard of ESPN also reported that Monte Morris was not there.
I'm on top of that.
It appears that PJ Dozier is not there, and it appears that flock of John Charles not there is what that means is.
The Nuggets have 10 players, and seven of them are powerful words centers.
So when you get into that situation and you have technically one guard on the roster because the guy who would be considered your second guard is your starting small forward on Will Barton, you don't really have a whole lot of options anymore.
So that's when I tweeted that out like we're going to get global small forward like this is something that we're gonna like.
They're not going to have another alternative to think.
So then Mike Malone has a zoom conference call that we're all trying to get used to in this pandemic world that we are now living in.
And he joked that they have been playing Bo Bowl at the three in practice.
Bulbul then confirmed it, so Bull Bowl is arguably the tallest small forward an MBA history of what we're doing now.
I mean they even joked, if they have to play ball bullet point guard, they will.
And honestly, looking at the roster, they might have Teoh what this is gonna look like? We might end up getting Jeremy Grant at shooting guard like that's what they're looking at.
What if this is the equation like this is This is the lineup that they needed this weird and sending to the next level of basketball? Yeah, follow.
Is that what's happening? Like we're just in a different dimension of basketball now.
It's just the absolute, like it makes the Sixers look like a bunch of like, small fries.
At this point, I'm kind of with it.
I kind of them to.
Like I spoke to Tim Connelly.
Just like cause Tim Connolly is so great about just being around the team at games and things like that.
And before games when you got guys, it is warming up.
Tim Connolly's usually have courtside will be kind of chopping it up or whatever it is.
He's good about, kind of making the rounds.
And arbitrarily, we kind of got on the topic.
A bowl bowl like playing in the G leak at this point like you was literally a non factor just trying to get healthy, trying to get strong.
And I was like, How do you even envision him in this team? Like, Not like what you expect, Not what you hope for, but like, Do you have any? Right? He goes, What can we do? You mean, why couldn't he play small forward and like, half chuckled, So I kind of dismissed it.
Bull Bull is playing small forward in Orlando bubble with the eight seeding games coming up prior to their op, you know, arguably best shot at an MBA title ever.
So, like, what is going on here? Is this really possible? Is it really realistic that Bull Bowl has the ability to play small forward Will tall forward as they keep calling like I don't even know what that's gonna look like.
But it's not crazy, right? Well, even if they like when? Inevitably, hopefully when they get everybody there, Do you think it's at least gonna be like a weird, like, skeleton key type of thing where they get this guy and like, he's kind of like they're like, Oh, this is like a kind of interesting wrinkle that we confront their skeleton key and the seeding games.
I don't have anything with him in the playoffs.
As long as they get their roster back together, there should be absolutely no reason to play.
That is so unfair to him.
I know you missed your entire season and then you didn't play at all this year, but one of the Orlando bubble, we're going to play 16 minutes.
A night of backup center like that would be so unfair for a guy who was already way too skinny to be play in the front court is so that's something that I don't see a lot of.
But this is the thing.
And bull Bull actually kind of spoke about this on the zoom call, right? One take I've always had is that people say he cannot defend on the perimeter, and I get it horizontally.
The do cannot move because he has not coordinated enough yet because he's 20 or 19 years old and seven foot three like who on earth could be coordinated at that size at that age, right? So that makes sense to me.
But Global then said, I didn't realize how wrong I was and how much ground I can cover just by putting my hand up.
And that's always been my thing.
He can sag off guys six feet and contested three pointer.
That's how long is so what? He can learn how to bend space in that way.
Then suddenly you have the makings.
Somebody who can defend Perimeter already has end to end speed.
It's the side to side mobility.
That's a struggle.
And if he can maximize his effectiveness with this length, you can take away a lot of those issues.
So suddenly, my mind is spinning of Could you really have a Michael Porter Jr Ball bowled.
Nicolay Yokich failed.
Small forward power forward center combo.
And maybe it is is Porter Jr like, Would that be a combination, especially with him in terms? Because you're kind of high on his on porter genius defensive upside.
I'm not time I like right now.
Yes, the biggest.
See, not anywhere near a good right now.
I mean, this is on outside playing style. Yeah, exactly.
It's so because that's kind of funny.
Part about the Nuggets is like they are.
Yes, like, of course, they are a team that, like can compete now.
But I do think that there is, like, some advantage to getting that early success and also extending that out.
So I feel like in a way, it kind of behoove them to throw a couple of guys just in the swing of things a little bit almost.
But at the same time, they've never had an opportunity like this to win a title.
So they're also not going to miss that opportunity, either.
They're really trying to walk that balance and extremely difficult to do.
I mean, we talked about last time on the test room that we had where it but the Nets and the Nuggets at opposite thing right where they mortgaged it.
They went all in and they're trying to win now because they have chance.
The Nuggets are trying to do both, and teams very, very rarely camp right.
That's incredibly difficult and honestly, it could all fall apart this offseason because they have somebody got it for free agency.
But if it does work, let's just live in this fantasy world for a second.
Yep, the idea of Jamal Murray Michael Porter Jr.
Bowl Bowl and Nicola Yokich, all in the same roster.
Working in unison together is just absolutely terrifying.
And that does that.
You have to ask the question.
What will that do to basketball? Because people don't have that type of unique talents all fitting together.
How often do you have an off ball starting point guard who is a pullup three point artists mixed with the best passing center of all time? Who can't jump with a seven foot three power forward who shoots threes and is the second best shooter who has been flanked by Michael Porter Jr.
Was a seven foot smile, four who was arguably the best shooter on the team? You don't see those configurations.
They don't exist.
So when you really start to think about the possibilities from regardless of how it you know Tiny, that possibility is it's hard not to think what could be, because that is extremely exciting.
And when you talk about building the perfect team around Nicola Yokich, that much length and ability to recover defensively, that's how you can build a consistent top five defense around Nicola.
So again, there are so many ways this goes so, so, so wrong.
Like all of a sudden, you have a stress fracture and bull balls leg and Michael Porter Jr with a back injury and all of this literally means nothing, right? So it's very much the hanging on by a thread.
But it's hard not to think.
What if it does work? What if this does fit? Because if it does, you're talking about a potentially dynastic team built from within that competed every single step and refused to compromise their own ideals.
That doesn't exist.
That's only been The Spurs is the only team, and it's really fascinating to me that some other team has been able to fabricate a model that might potentially resemble and follow that same ideal.
Yeah, that would be pretty uncommon.
I think in a lot of ways, like just with how much like it's a completely perpendicular to like how the league works now, where it's like you're kind of just swinging, swinging, swinging, swinging.
But I mean, in a way, I'm not sure how else they're going to build it like, and that's what that's the case.
That's kind of like I think what they're what's very interesting about them.
Um, let's do some playoff matchups.
Since that was meat and potatoes I got in the last time, we won't do the l A. I mean the l A teams.
I think we kind of know, we know that.
We know the drill.
We kind of the conference finals, so I don't know.
I mean, it doesn't seem like a huge opportunity there.
We'll start off with rockets.
Um, I we did this a little bit last time, so Well, maybe spend a little bit less time just talking about them in general.
But I will say I do think like, the more I thought about it is really just gonna be kind of like a three point shootout, and I kind of favor the Rockets in that way just because of its Only because the Nuggets air.
So the amount attempts that they're taking is just so much lower that I don't know.
I don't know how that works for the Nuggets.
As great as his Yokich could be, um, I you know, just the next thing I didn't know.
I actually learned that through your writings that the nuggets are, like, way, way low in terms of attempts per game, and I don't know what that looks like, and I don't know why I don't even know the first thing, he said at the media day when he spoke, it was like the third question was about three point shooting and he goes, we want to generate 37 threes a game, right? He said, 37 there at like 32 a half right, and that's just nowhere near where they need to be To build off of that, Malone wanted to generate what he calls paint threes where guys get into the paint, collapse the defense, kick out to open shooters.
They're not generating those looks, and I think a big part of this is that, well, one Jamal Murray is playing on a sprained ankle like 90% of his entire career.
So the whole idea of turning a corner one on one, or even with a screen just hasn't really been on the table forum.
They tried to have Gary Harris play that role this year, was not able to take off very much from that position, either.
And then Will Barton has been the only one that can rely on to break down a defence suddenly, but you're not able to break it down.
If you can't actually create an advantage, it just turns him to give your kids the ball.
And what teams have been doing is they're just sitting in passing lanes.
Now listen, man, we don't Nicolay doesn't want to shoot in the regular season.
We're going to sit in passing lanes and we're gonna make you score or you're gonna pass the guys who recovered right and it's worked.
And that's why they've been so inconsistent.
So when I look at that Rocket Siri's, I don't see any reason that those things are gonna change.
Maybe Nicole the Yokich being just on a tear could take enough of a you know, attention overall for the Rockets to be able to open up new opportunities, right? I just see the Rockets selling out on everybody else and trying to play that math game like all right, Nicole, you want to take 22 shots from the low post against P. J. Tucker.
Take every single one you can make every single one, but we're still gonna take 47 threes in this game.
And if you are not able to convert at an 80% clip.
You're probably not gonna beat us.
So it's so fascinating trying to discern what is going to give because one of the sides going to get one team won't make three pointers or won.
T will be so dominant in their own individual matchup that it doesn't matter and it's no way to quantify which is more realistic than the other because it's Nicole Yokich and James Harden.
They both deserve all of the benefit of the doubt, right, so it's fascinating on every single level.
I cannot wait to potentially see the Serie.
That's what I want.
I find an honest Nuggets have a much better opportunity.
I think that Nicola Yoka just perfectly built to be the center to break this team because when I watched him last playoffs and I just went back and watched more film of him in that playoff series, he was there was nothing that he could not do.
He did not care who was in front of him.
The only person to match the numbers he put up was Oscar Robertson.
Years and years and years ago had a historic playoff debut, so If he even remotely touches those numbers, the Rockets are gonna have to send doubles like they're gonna have no choice.
Because Nicole Yokich will score in the 1st 6 months.
The shot clock on easy turnaround hook shot over and over and over and over again.
He's in that zone.
So my big thing is this.
If Yokich is not assertive in the very 1st 5 minutes of every single game against the Rockets, the Nuggets will lose.
If he comes out and sets that president from the very, very, very beginning, they have to adjust.
And then the Nuggets are now dictating that pays and have the upper edge.
That's really what I'm starting to look at in that Syria.
I like that, too, because if if you put that little early lead, then there's that pressure like we know threes dry up.
It happens every single year.
And if you put on that, you put on the guest, the foot on the gas early.
That is a tough position to operate out of.
You want to be chucking freeze when you're up by six or seven like its.
That's an interesting way to look at that.
Um that makes a reaction like Imagine the defense when you're hung.
The thing that I've learned talking to like some defenders on the end beyond the Nuggets but specifically Tory Craig, is that when you see one guy roasting you, it's impossible not to take a little bit extra attention to that guy, even if you're not.
And it does take a mental collection of people's ability to be able to cognitively think through defensively.
And when you do that and you put that much attention this, the whole gravity idea that became so popular in the MBA, it does just drag everything that much closer to write.
So I think that he has to dictate everything right.
If he doesn't do it in the 1st 5 minutes on, the Rockets are going to do it.
And that is gonna be bad.
Bad, bad, Mr Nuggets.
There's also the Westbrook factor, which is a factor that no one knows how to quantify.
I don't think Westbrook even knows how to quantify.
Go look at Russell Westbrook's numbers when defended by Tory Craig.
I am usually so.
They could defended him.
A Tory Craig really, again, this is the point of me doing the show is to bring people on that know this in each kind of thing that you wouldn't pick up on other.
Really, if you go back and look at the matchup data, which matches the eye test identically.
Okay, what's the Westbrook get this thing where he sees Tory credit? He was like to weigh Guy.
And he tries to go at Torrey one on one over and over and over again.
Tory Craig, a six foot seven with seven foot wingspan, is £245 of pure muscle.
That dude can defend Russell Westbrook rest book is like, I want to say he's like eight for 42 against Tory.
Craig has been blocked like six times.
Wow, like Stark like very, very revealing number.
When you look at it and again, it's like once a game.
Westbrook gets one step on Tory Craig and then the rejection from behind, and it just gets in his head and you see it happen once a game.
And I really wonder if Russell Westbrook seen Torrey.
Craig has become a not that like intimidates Russ.
But that's something you have to think about now.
and it's something that he's like actively concerned about.
So he's not just recklessly driving anymore against Tory Craig.
So I do think that that is a very interesting part of this.
And I think Tory Craig will play more than Michael Porter Jr in a Rocket Siri's.
I just didn't I wouldn't have realized that It all just thinking about with Westbrook aspect of this.
Um, it's kind of like how you throw like a giant defender on Johannes.
Like you throw somebody who's just gonna engulf them.
Almost like I never would have guessed that.
You know what Tony Allen asked.
Like deployment like you are here to be a pest on this one person to disrupt everything they do.
You are here to be specifically that.
And if he gets three school, But they do deploy him in that way and they do it often against Russell Westbrook.
Who, uh, who do they put on hearted in these situations? Is it an it because I don't know if they have the guy, so they constant So this is what's so cool.
I call it targeted pressure.
Okay, so what they do is usually it's Gary Harris Will Barton right at the initial starting point, there is always somebody from somewhere inching their way.
They don't actually double actually stuff to him.
They're always applying a little bit of that targeted pressure to that side of the floor.
Then this is the most fascinating part after a big story about when they played the Rockets in like December.
Okay, but Gary Harris had, like six steals against the Rockets, one game and all he was doing, and I talked to Wes Unseld Jr.
The Nuggets like de facto defensive coordinator about this.
Actually, they told him to double whenever he felt like it.
They were randomised.
They were not running sets defensively, so James Harden had no idea when these doubles were coming.
It was just assistant.
It was infrequent.
It wasn't by the same person.
It wasn't from the same side of the floor.
It was from so many different places.
He was never comfortable.
James Harden had that.
I believe, the third lowest scoring average against the Nuggets of any team in basketball this year because they were just always sending bodies in so many different directions at him and it made him give up the ball, and they almost always brought the help from his right side.
It was very fascinating, and I think that targeted pressures on that I've been using this coined term for it.
It's something they could do to throw him off again.
This we get the Russell Westbrook part if you're sending that much help that way.
Russell Westbrook, who could then attack you? Downhill, right? The Nuggets have had success against that part of it as well, so we'll have to see again. What gives.
But the Nuggets have shown they have a game plan to at least make it more difficult.
Not stop, but more difficult than most teams have.
They found a way like the Rockets run away to involve Yokich a little bit or is the oak.
It's kind of like held his own in the situation on his own, and you get a good year defensively, the he's had multiple years good defensively.
If you go look at the offensive like Real plus minus, ESPN does yeah, in the top 15 every single year of his career, but it's working here.
Call The Yokich is not gonna block shots.
He's not gonna be a guy who was just going up in stonewalling people.
Not the guy who could defend guys on the perimeter like Jonathan Isaac.
But he knows where he needs to be every single time, and he will push you into the help defense every single time.
And he has the best hands of any center and, yes, averaging like 1.
8 steals a game.
And then when you add in his defensive rebounding ability, he is an above average defender.
If you put him on an island against Russell Westbrook, he's going to struggle.
Okay, 85% of the league struggles in that realm.
So, like this idea that he's not able to defend is just not true to me.
Now that they don't have a center, everyone's gonna be like, Oh, but P.
J. Tucker on the perimeter.
He's gonna be fine.
He knows exactly what that does to you think teams haven't done that to him from the second you step for his date.
He knows what he's walking into.
This is not new to him.
Do you have any more points on the Rockets, Siri's itself? Any things to watch for for because I got four teams highlighted.
Three but potentially for so very hairs is the last thing I want to say.
He has to be able to defend like a demon.
He needs to be able to cause chaos everywhere he cast to be that Draymond green free safety s role.
He right? They don't have that.
They're not gonna be able to defend the people.
It just is what it is.
So and on on the reverse side they need is three point shooting.
Because again, like the masking we talked about, if Gary doesn't drop his threes, the Nuggets are suddenly dealing with a whole lot more issues.
Right? Gary Harris is the one last X factor that I think needs to be involved.
Yeah, I agree with that.
I think he would have to.
I mean, also, like, on the flip side of the floor, he's got a freeze, which is, like, I mean, you seem like, confident about based on the last conversation.
Yeah, I have confidence in him.
He just isn't healthy very often.
But he's been, you know, office fee able to get rest, right? All this quarantine and things like that.
So it seems like there is hope that he could be that guy.
Okay, 55% from three after the All Star break before the season was put on their height, right? There's a very real data that when he's healthy, he shoots.
Well, okay, so we'll see if that plays out.
But I don't want to say I have utmost faith in it, but there is trends that point in that direction.
So in terms of fun, Siri's I actually So what's nice for Denver is I kind of like any of the three against the Thunder and the Mavs.
I don't know about the Jazz.
I just like I don't have a ton 18 years.
I think they're a good team.
I love without Bogdanovich.
There does not affect Yeah, I just I don't know.
They don't They don't move the needle for me that much this year.
Uh, under a kind of fun.
I just like I like the thunder seal off this thunder team.
I think it's impossible to dislike them.
I like the Mavs and the thunder, especially just because there's gonna be so much playmaking from just from Lucca CP three and Yokich.
I just like That's that I love that.
That's like my favorite thing about my guy Shade Gill.
Yes, yes, that he's that he's the matchup that I think the Nuggets cannot deal with.
That's really what I'm summing this up to.
I was going to say they've been guarding him, looking at just matchup sets.
They've been putting Murray on him, right? And it's not working.
Yeah, it's so much bigger.
I mean, you could go back to the playoffs last year.
Watch Rodney Hood to mortgage Jamal Murray and the post over and over and over again, right? It's not big enough.
They is 66 of the 71 wing span like he is massive for a guy who initiates an offense.
On top of that, he is brilliant.
Yeah, dude, I Q.
Is out of this world for his age.
People that that size that play a point guard position, do not enter the N b A.
With this understanding and feel I he was the guy wanted the Nuggets to get a hold up so bad they got Michael Porter Jr so it might work out just fine.
But Oh, the idea of shade Gildas Alexander if the two with this team.
That same reasons. I like Caris.
But separately, we will get into that.
We'll get into that.
Yeah, that would give you, like a plus sized like a guy's both sides outside.
Yeah. Uh, backcourt, I should say, Yeah, that's pretty.
That's pretty. That's pretty tantalizing.
I can't lie about.
One thing is that Steven Adams could do nothing against polio.
I was going to say XYZ phenomenal, but like Yokich eats him alive, and I don't know what it is like.
I feel so bad because, like, Steven Adams works so hard.
And it's just there's just too much touch.
It's just like he can't.
He's not big enough, and he's not mobile enough to really make it difficult.
If your kid gets within 83 of The Ram, it's a bucket, and it's something that it's bizarre to me that Yokich could make someone like Steven Adams look that ineffective.
But it's true, like that's one matchup that they will not win, right? Yeah, I saw I was looking at matchup data because like that's just me playing catch up at this point Get stuck on one beat your distorts the try to study this stuff up this status under similar, you know, sort of sometimes correct, sometimes not.
But yeah, I was shocked by that.
It, like, stuck out to me, it was like 10 for 13 This year.
I'm sure you're gonna know, like the lifetime.
So it's like it was It stood out to me quite a bit because I was like, I feel like that like the right sort of guy toe put on him ideally, but I guess it's just the finesse of it.
I mean, you can't stop Yokich.
There's two kinds of people who give him some kinds of fits above the rim threats that are not like lead initiators.
So we're not talking about the Dwight Powell's Clint Capellas, those kinds of bigs that's just flying.
He can't rotate over enough and stop the law, but just very difficult for him.
And really, really smart centres are able to play the same game.
Is him okay? Okay, just better at it.
But usually they can be more effective, like the coal of Vucevic's has great games against polio.
Just very, very savvy guys because, honestly, what I think it is, the rest of the Nuggets defense is not as intelligent as Nicola Yogurt behind them.
When you have an intelligence center who was able to at least eliminate that match up, you can then start to open up the rest of your offense.
But, yeah, those are the two kinds of players, which is why the Mavericks are so interesting to me because they have and high flyers with Luca, who could deliver it to make it interesting against them.
The Nuggets have struggled with Dallas.
They've won their games, but they haven't been close.
Close? Yeah, so they are a really weird one.
Just in that, I think.
I mean, there, play a little bit smaller.
Presumably, Um, I don't know.
I feel like that.
They don't have Brunt's in those, so that's a little bit.
It's There's a lot more responsibility.
One guard in Orlando, so she's pretending that way got the full Nuggets because otherwise, if we're doing the the Bull Bull at the point guard with the Nuggets are going to the title when they're getting shopping under.
If that's what it'll break my understanding.
Okay, I don't know what is going on here.
It's really thought.
I understood that Raylan Bronson not being there, is super super important because they won't survive without Luca. Now.
Yeah, they have toe have somebody and, like J.
Barea can do most of it.
But it's just it's not the same that you need to be able to survive.
Does not look a minute.
Well, you're gonna have a lot of responsibility on Seth Curry, too.
Like I think they're genuinely gonna have to, like, run quite a down South Korean Jaime Bray as a backup small because their backup backward like small it back. That is immune.
So so I don't know.
I think what's so interesting about that is the Nuggets have no answer for Luca.
Yeah, they can't match up with them like that's the thing is he? The Nuggets won thanks to win Nicole Yokich game winner against Dallas Mud's Luca Don, which had a throw down dunk on top of two Nuggets players with six seconds left to give them the lead.
And it was just one after another of him going right by whoever was in front of him just too big and too strong.
Yeah, I don't care what budget for young weight or whatever the hell these people who don't like Luca want to throw at him.
He just mowed through Denver.
They don't have the side or this orders to bulk like they had to put Jeremy Grant on him at the end of the game to be able to get a point.
Last stop because nobody else had any hope to be able to slow him.
So that Dallas matchup is volatile.
If Dallas catches fire, Denver might not be able to deal with it.
I'm not gonna pick Dallas, but I would be really concerned about betting on that kind of Syria.
It's kind of funny.
It's like, uh, I don't know.
I'm trying to think of feeling about me.
The Nuggets last I was going to say it 100 months to get the smooth A little bit is clearly better.
But Luca Yeah, like, that's kind of the art yet, and it does.
It works and give it real validity.
Yeah, I don't know.
I mean, outside of that, like you're kind of just they're both I like the depth of of Denver much more, but I didn't.
I was kind of it doesn't matter.
A All these teams are on my got some great depth and, like, they're gonna be running like rotations.
Like, I don't know why I'm sitting there, Please.
Scared of Dallas? Yeah.
Interesting part of dealing with. Interesting.
This is the most out of this bubble teams.
This relative, I want no part of that group.
Yet the enemy, especially if a king like the weight.
I mean, obviously, I would say, Like, for Denver.
Also, even if a person gets like, I mean for Zynga's no, no kids takes that seriously, does he? Yeah.
It was unicorn this? Yeah, that Yokich ate his ass live for every single matchup.
Dude, it was like, Do you remember trying to watch Kevin Knox take on Zion in the summer league? Yes.
That's what it looks like.
Well, I meant who they stick it on.
I guess I'm importing, Gets a little more like pick and pop.
And I can't really do that much off if he's run up the line just yet.
And Yokich is too strong, he can't get interesting cannot get volume and rebounding numbers don't exist against Nicola.
Yeah, put his arms out of the wall and there's nobody getting through that.
It just yeah, Nicola has no issue with with Kristaps.
And this is the thing they have Jeremy Grant to.
So even if they want to play Maxie Cleaver with Kristen, sure, but have the size to deal with that now.
Interests alike, though.
That part doesn't bother me as much as just Luca going ballistic like Luca, doing his heart and session with a better cast of players to potentially hurt the Nuggets MAWR.
That's more scary to me than Houston.
That was the take those to take right there. Just cut that out.
Take no, it's true, man, like they have the right group of players to be able to make life for Denver.
Maxie's very, very smart and will find a way to score through that Nuggets defense if you have to take the ball the high post.
Yep, they have Luca who could do anything.
But I have no concerns about Luca, and they have such a complement of role players who can fill in so many different gaps.
So they are just so well rounded like I'm not.
It scares me to match with that team.
And no fear of Oklahoma City.
That would be like a about no fear.
But other than Utah, it's for the best chance. Interesting.
Interesting. Yeah, I don't know if they have the horses.
Also, like a battle of have no wings against it.
God, I do want to see that match for the thunder match.
It was interesting to me because Chris Paul will shift so much of that playoffs, Right? Very curious how that works with him in this mentor ship will, which we haven't seen before.
Yes, there's a lot of difficulty knowing what you're gonna get from the thunder, but, I mean, she killed Alexander.
Man is not a whole lot of answers for that Denver has for a guy like that, but I also like the small Bo aspect, Like what? They're running out.
Therefore, when they have shared five right at three, it's just like it's one of the best basketball.
It's not, and I tell you this too.
Gallanar Ian, Nicole Leo. I don't want to.
They didn't get along because the coldest Yokich wasn't there in the cold. Just like I like everybody.
Let's go basketball like it's not necessarily like that with them.
But Gala was the man in Denver because so long.
And then here comes some kids in Serbia 50th pick or whatever the heck he was and any Olson runs the team, there was a little bit of, Ah, frustration factor.
That's why I wonder how much Gallo would take that Siri's even Mawr toe heart than he normally would against other teams.
I met her story Dio.
He's one of my favorite officer.
It's really James Harden like he did the James Harden thing.
For years, people over Gallinari led the league in free throw attempts for like six years.
Like that's what he did, was herky jerk his way to the rim and get to the foul line.
People forget he was a bucket way.
My surprise. Guess no.
Is it years from now available in Brooklyn? Yes, that's that kind of where I'm at with that man.
Interesting. Yeah, that's Ah.
I mean, the other thing, like in terms of, um, matchup numbers, they also they were putting a lot of like Harris on CP three, which kind of makes sense to me.
I mean, that's pretty logical.
Just trying to swallow up the If you could just take away the head of the snake, The initiation, The point of attack? Yep.
Yep. But that's again now shaken.
People forget that those games with the thunder were early.
They are not as equipped for a mawr progressed and developed shape right now.
And I really that's people are gonna laugh me for that take.
But Dash is going to be the matchup that kills in the pain of losing that Siri's Let's talk a little Michael Porter, Jr.
Since you experience you brought it up.
I didn't bring it up enough last summer, so I'm gonna We're dedicating a whole section to it.
What do we expect? What? I'm gonna give you just the basic what to expect.
What should we be looking for? How many minutes is he gonna play is you have a role.
Is he there? Theo thing? I think they'll give him a real shot in the seating games.
If he's there, he's there.
Um, if he plays well in the seeding games, then I think he gets a real shot in the playoffs, right? If he clearly is overwhelmed by the absurdity of the bubble and all of the things that are going on that maybe that changes their opinions.
But this is my other take.
The Nuggets don't win a title this year. We got a jumbo wings.
They need Michael Porter, Jr.
You just need someone who fits that archetype.
Even if he's not the most productive player in the world, you have to be able to somewhat match up defensively and again.
He's not gonna stop LeBron and Paul George or anything, but it gives you more opportunity to help and gives you that little bit of extra length to be able to make up for those.
Sure, just those extra seconds.
Like if you could just buy you like just a couple exercise seconds if they're gonna do, is important.
If you're closing out with Michael Porter Jr.
As opposed to Paul Millsap of your or our even a Will Barton at three, it's just so much extra length.
Just those 13 pointer is a massive difference in the playoffs, so I wonder if that ends up being a part of it, but he has to show he's ready, and Michael Malone, like you, gives him his chances.
But Michael Malone is not gonna play a young player who has not shown he's ready in the playoffs, right is against his complete identity.
Come alone is an old school Queens bread point guard like this is what he does.
If you don't work for it and you don't show it, you don't play.
And because of that blue collar attitude, it's been why Michael Porter Jr hasn't had as much consistent playing time.
And honestly, it makes sense that he hasn't played in two years like it takes a long time to get back into shape and ready to go.
The other part of this is that he had his ankle injury was more severe than I thought it was prior to the hiatus of the league and he was playing through a lot of it, so that limited him in a serious way and it led to with minutes decreasing as well.
So I'm trying to remove the post All star break slump that he had, and look at what I've heard about the pickup games that they played that they have put on Instagram.
This is clearly not a secret because players love post on instagram about something they probably shouldn't be doing.
But regardless of that fact, as Michael Porter Jr is not in Orlando, by the way, he was killing it in these pickup games from what I understand, like the best player on the court.
Which makes sense, of course, because he's a pickup.
She code of a 6 10 small forward who can shoot from anywhere on the court like you tend to be pretty good at pick up.
But when you have that kind of confidence going into the bubble when you're playing with your guys and you are the elite of the elite of the third seed Denver Nuggets that were one game from the Western Conference finals, it's going to give you confidence.
So I wonder if a healthy, more confident Michael Porter Jr really does make waves and really does force his way in.
I don't know how realistic it is.
I would say he probably played about 12 minutes a game in the playoffs, maybe closer to 16 to 18 and the seeding games, but he has to show it.
And if he doesn't show it, they're not gonna play in.
Which means they're not winning the title this year.
There's always that one guy that's like a rookie or a sop****re player that just like, we'll win you a game and just come in and like, hit three threes like what's going on? And all of a sudden, everyone in the max contract all of a sudden, Andrew Wiggins his way out of the league.
Yeah, I'm well aware, and I'm really hoping that doesn't happen. I'm Terek.
It's so volatile, looking at the future for this Nuggets team because there had to lose a bunch of people in free agency.
They are not a organization that is known to spend a lot of money over the tax to keep their team together.
And now you already have a Max it Nicola and Max at Jamal Murray, Gary Harris to make 20 year, Will Barton making 20 year.
And I got Michael Porter Jr and Bo Bowl like, how is this going to work? So there's a lot of questions that need to be answered quickly, and if they don't start to put those equations together and start to find an actual answer for it.
They might find themselves losing players for not as much money as they deserve when they should have kept them.
And that's very nervous making these ladies with BC things different because there wasn't a role for him.
Yeah, I was wasn't a Jurf and, like she is not a talent thing with Maliki, has nothing to do a talent.
There was not a role, and when Michael Porter Jr showed what the kind of talent that he had, it just there just wasn't a role.
And I give the current a lot of the Nuggets a lot of credit because they went and found him and Juanjo a spot where they could shine.
And not only that, they were able to get a decent deal in return.
Job is, I like I like him a lot.
I really dio If the Nuggets news story Craig this offseason, Kate abates.
Job is going to be the guy to pick up that mantle of that like multi positional wing who could do a little bit of everything for you, give you a whole lot of toughness and as a lot of size and strength.
But he is the ideal guy for that.
Also, I'm a sucker for full words who can't shoot, love to pass.
I don't know why, but Keita is just like the ideal guy in that room.
Like I love Troy Brown like I don't know what it is.
I don't I don't get myself half the time, but those are my kind of guys.
And I do think that Kate is in this equation very, very well.
So I get why they traded Malik and makes sense to me.
They also couldn't pay him.
We were just talking about the money situation.
Malik was gonna ask for at least what Gary Harris gonna make money this summer.
He's going to get $20 million a year.
There's no way the Nuggets can afford $20 million a year for a six man just can't happen, so it sucks.
But it is what it is.
I mean, yeah, I think what we talked about this a little bit last time, just with the issues that even with Gary Harris, who is like, just you look at some of the metrics.
He's just amazing defensively, even that you're like, That's a little like I don't know about the size thing.
I don't know what that looks like when you go deep, you're gonna run of those same issues except with somebody who is a little bit less pedigree on defense brings quite a bit on offense.
I mean, that guy, just like the punches got there like J.
Smith production. I don't know, I don't know.
I just the thing The biggest Malik on enthusiasts for a long time when you go back and look at his numbers of Ford Estate, the only player in college basketball history to match his efficiency at 20 points a game was Kyrie, a Duke when he played like eight games.
Like the numbers he was able to put up were truly spectacular.
And you saw his ability to grow with the ball in his hands and continued at the N B A level.
So they're in chance from a leak and I still believe in Melich, the defense God manic.
I have not seen somebody so lost defensively in a long time and it gets on his fault, he was hurt in college.
You didn't get much playing time when he first started in the MBA.
Those things take time started indictment on him.
But like when you're a lost year off all the borders running by you and don't even realize it was are you baseline? Like there is a very, very hard limit to what you can help with a team that's looking for a championship.
So I get why they, right? Yeah.
And he was labeled as three.
Andy coming out of college three shooting comes and goes like hell shoot 55% November 22 in December.
And also that 72% anywhere you're like, where we really gonna fall? A little volatile.
Why a team like Minnesota would go all in that it does make sense.
It's also you have to wonder like I mean, there's already gonna be the questions of defendant pick and pop. That's it.
That's a really where teams Malik Beasley.
Trying to defend anything that's weird.
It's weird, man.
And you throw Devin Booker in there, which I don't know if that's actually gonna happen.
I just I want Teoh.
Let's go all in on guys who want the ball the time and just see what happens.
Its amazing your talent.
Booker and Beasley on a team, and all three do think they're like the second coming of Christ not going toe work.
But I wanted to see and want your jersey smiling in the corner, ready to pull up at any given bill.
And that's really why they brought him in.
But, yes, I want to see what that looks like.
I there, like one of my weird teams that I'm like, just like I just can't wait to say you can get a game out of Russell and tell your teams and go to magic.
000 of course, we can get So Donovan, Isaac, Isaac, all the way.
Is there a more polished and ready defender that has entered the league in the past 10 years than him? For ya, honest.
Especially for waiting for all of the elite players and basketball, right? Like he fits the perfect archetype of players who can defend the elite jumbo.
Full words of basketball.
He tries to Paul George LeBron's.
The be honest is the Chris Middleton's all of those guys.
He is serious, man.
Like he should make an all defense team this year.
Potentially first team, all defense team this year.
He it because it's the magic.
And no one watched him. Nothing. He got hurt.
But that do defended at that caliber all season long, they're not gonna win.
I don't care about the results.
What can he really do with a crappy roster around Tim against a team like the Bucks? Because if he can help and you see it with that roster boy, man, like I'm going to be extremely excited.
I'm gonna turn this hat around cause I'm a tell you who's gonna ruin all of this.
It's gonna get think this luau Kabarole coming into ruin all of my Jonathan Isaac fun. It's gonna happen.
I'm telling you, they're gonna fall to the eight.
It's just it's gonna happen.
I mean, look, so not only ill spirit, but that Nets Rosser is a lot of new faces, but that matchup get into the wrong party.
I I still don't know who is fully on that roster.
I mean, you know, it's like changing by the hour, but, um but I think in the right world that the Nets would play one of Boston or and they keep that seven spot.
Please keep the seven spot that would play the Raptors or the Celtics.
Castleford played really well against the Raptors.
I mean, that's like kind of why I'm looking for that.
Well, I know we got we got some carrots love coming up.
But if they ruined this Bucks magic, Siri's, which I know will probably be a sweet.
But there will be these weird moments where I'm like, kind of like what they're doing there.
And Gordon denies it together.
I'm like I could live for this, cause Aaron Gordon is also kind of a weirdly interesting defender to he's I wanna watch to see how well fit anywhere else other than or yeah, it is because there were a lot of unproven guys Marco faults I would love.
They're pretty fun because Bledsoe tested positive they might not have Eric Bledsoe.
Yes, What? They don't have blood.
So then suddenly you might have a good mark, Healthful Siri's.
And that would be so much fun, right? And I'm sorry, that redemption story, after all the **** he's dealt with.
Sorry, it cuts on this.
Um after all that, he's dealt with it.
Be so cool to see him have a great Siri's and Jonathan Isaac really planned himself is one of the elite defenders in basketball.
And maybe Aaron Gordon can finally hit a three again will be super enjoyable.
I would like to see that.
And Buffum Obama can't forget bomb.
But e was so wrong.
I was just so so I was so excited.
I'm like, Wow, this dude is literally trash.
They're pretty fun and fornier, I kind of like foreign.
You have got a weird ex nuggets.
Don't Google my last name.
Don't google it ever.
You love folky, actually quote tweeted a tweet like a year ago and said, Don't google my last name.
Let's there you go see a man.
He might be a guy who gets paid.
He is contract Gottfried, you're gonna want him.
He's gonna be playing hard in the playoff series, Man, that's an interesting on top of it for California.
I think I want this magic team so badly.
I got into them last year to I got into them last year with the weird detail.
Guest even came in game one, and I was like, What is this? I'm into this and then, like, three games, and I was like, OK, kind of cooled off Stockholm Denver Nuggets.
Media thing ever was sitting next to Adam oddities of the NVR sports who, like, despises D.
Augustine is game playing for the Nuggets and actually toured up.
You have, like, blow up fourth quarters.
All this we just look down the media, row out.
So yeah, shouts D J.
Augustine Also nuggets legend, deejay architect Oh, man, this is it right here with a lot of a lot of nuggets.
Legends are your stuff.
Yeah, very niche players tonight.
That was probably the nicest thing we've done yet.
It just give a nice 10 minutes to Jonathan.
Isaac, I'm telling you, they're gonna ruin it.
And speaking of that, can our teams trade were playing gm right now I'm pulling up.
Were pointing up again because machine right now.
All right, let's do it.
Which ones get the math right this time.
Not just with ESPN.
Okay? One I've used for so long because that's the thing about Denver and Brooklyn that makes me so excited is that there is money and players that fit across both sides.
So my carousel avert makes so much sense and I'm sure that they're gonna end up half team toe, move on from Spencer.
Didn't witty at some point.
It seems like that might be in the making.
But Caris Levert is on one of the cheapest contracts ever.
And I'm sorry they if they can find a way to get a hold of him.
He makes so much sense before this nugget team.
Who else on that team do you think is expendable for the For the nets to able to make money work touring France.
Taurean Prince, Why would they get rid of Taurean Prince? It was It was a tumultuous year.
This year I did not know that it wasn't great.
It was not your eight.
The hard part about this trade the money doesn't work too well.
But the idea of Caris Levert in Denver is something that makes me extremely excited.
That's the architect player again, like those jumbo initiators who could break down a defence who know how to play very, very high I Q basketball.
You would fit in so seamlessly with Nicola.
He has no problem being the second or third option.
So Carris is somebody that I've always thought would make sense of the Nuggets.
I don't know why he signed the contract.
He sounds like $3 million a year for the next, like four years like it makes no logical sense to me.
He would not sign that extension if you were waiting to go in sign and sign and trade it.
I made so much more sense for him.
I think it was the injury thing.
Like maybe you saw it this year.
Ridiculous ankle injury? Yeah, I think it was.
He just took the money and they were They had a new owner.
So the new owner is gonna dish out a couple of contracts to kind of get the get the ball rolling.
I guess a little bit.
And I think that they just had a team friendly deal of contract.
I think its 18 5 and five kind of a player to be getting three million years now he's not making three mil.
He's got an extension.
The extension is not kicked in civilian scene.
Was one that I was like, What do you think they're Silver is work.
So you can really do Gary Harris and like a two second round picks straight up for him, Okay? I mean, it makes a ton of sense to me.
I don't love him next to Kyrie and Katie.
Say I like that deal on paper.
I just don't know if that's worth it.
Just Will Barton make more sense to you? No.
Although I do think there's weird similarities between him and caress in Wilbert in a lot of ways.
Yeah, well, it's a little more streetball minded, more old school that concrete courts kind of ways yester They remind me of each other a lot in a way where I just like I don't know what either of them looks like next to Kyrie and Katie.
I just think there's gonna run so much through those I don't see.
Oh, cares fits with Katie and Kyrie.
I don't either. I don't even see any room.
I will get like a low efficient, you know, a low usage, usually high efficiency guard who can play off the bench, shoot threes, defend anybody you want as the guys opposed.
Someone needs those looks.
Well, he's weird.
So he shot well from three this year, but he most of it was off like pullup shooting.
I think he shot around like 37 30 eight.
Is catching shoot number.
So much worse than his pullup numbers? A mistress.
It's it's It's not just this year you go back like four years.
It's like basically the same thing every year.
He's like this, like 34.
It's really bizarre.
I mean, his pullup shooting is variable, so it'll kind of it'll change his hands so much in his career, anyway.
And different teams to different archetypes like you have like last year.
I mean, he's, you know, he starts off hot.
He goes through this terrible injury, and there's like a weird Dinwiddie period that DeAngelo takes off and then they're kind of splitting duties.
And then he's back in the fold and he comes back and gets the Bulls, and he takes like a full month to get comfortable.
They never really figured it out between those three guys, which, by the way, was a repeat of that this year.
You'd watch these three guys play together, and it's like, Wow, this is like what this the thunder would look like if none of this worked, like none of it all.
Like, if it was actually awful to watch.
That's what it was.
It was like and again whatever small samples, Sure, absolutely.
You definitely need a little bit more.
But I was just kind of like Instant.
I test this doesn't look right like these are all kind of guys that do the same sort of things.
So for me, like for Caris Levert, I feel like he's almost potentially marginalized in a way, if depending upon how they build that team, and it seems like they're gonna get a lot of just, I don't know if it's actually gonna carry over in the next year.
But, man, they have been very, um, into bringing.
Guys that are are scoring minded are a bucket a bucket as there's I don't get it because you can only have so many guys and score.
I like this like Dee.
Actually, with the two guys that they have running the show, it's It's you have to.
Yep, it doesn't make any sense.
We need on ball scoring, right, Like it doesn't make sense to me, it truly doesn't.
And that's why frustrates me because Caris Levert particularly he doesn't fit well around low I.
Q players and again higher and Katie can't play high i. Q.
But their style of play does not lend itself to that style, right? I don't I don't understand.
I just I don't get it.
And it frustrates me to no end because it just doesn't functionally make sense.
Well, I'll tell you one guy that the things community that's Twitter has been looking at, you know, it's it's has it's good days, and it's bad days.
I would say It's definitely it's a rollercoaster.
Millsap is somebody that I've been like.
I've been gunning for that for like, two years.
I thought he was gonna I mean, I didn't know what they're gonna do with a team option last year, but I was kind of what almost happened, where he's at because Paul Millsap want to stay in Denver.
I'm pretty sure that's like, I don't want to say locked up because none of it's been confirmed to me.
There is nothing that I have seen that tells me that Paul Millsap will not be with this Denver Nuggets team next year.
I would assume he'd be willing to take, like, the mid level exception for for the next two years and stick with this.
Okay, guys, he At one point, it was after last season.
During exit interviews, he came through and said when he was asked, he was like, Is this a place you could see yourself finishing your career And his response was, and I'm obviously not saying that's verbatim here.
But it was essentially, this group of guys are underrated.
They're not talked about their overlooked.
That has been me my whole career.
If I can win with them, that means even more to me.
And that, to me, was so representative of not only the way he wants to win, but who Paul Millsap is and the kind of people he wants to surround himself with.
So the idea of like jump into a Warriors team at again? This was 18 months ago, after the last season when the Warriors were so the Warriors to a degree and people were talking about the idea.
Hey, Paul Millsap could be their power for kind of mess things together.
And he was like, You didn't say no, But he was like that.
I want to do it my way.
Okay? And that's something that I found extremely revealing.
So the idea of Paul Millsap running to a Katie Kyrie lead Nets team that was suddenly a super team that was built overnight.
It doesn't add up to me If the money is there, it has toe obviously change the thinking process, but they don't have the money.
That's the thing it would be like for the M L E B. The mid level.
Yeah, after the mid level as well.
I bought a house in Colorado like he lives here.
It gets family has been relocated here, do you? I'm pretty sure all of the signs of that he wants to stay in bed.
And the other thing, too is he Young Wok, Nikolay Yokich.
Nicolay Yokich was not just passive but unwilling to be the guy he did not want it like I'll never forget.
Two years ago, interviewing him about his billboard was his first billboard in Denver and one of the like No.
Nine news people has to ask about the billboard in a press conference.
And he goes, Oh, no, no, I hate it.
I don't want to be famous Let Thrill be famous talking about Will Barton hated the idea that he was the face of anything.
It wasn't until Paul Millsap got it into his head that he was the guy, and that was what changed things.
I think Paul has a not just a camaraderie, but he feels an obligation to Denver now.
He is invested here, and he's not willing to back out of that investment at this time.
And I think it's a smart decision.
And plus, they picked up that $30 million player option when our team option, when they did not need to.
They gave that man $30 million to play 28 minutes a game.
That is crucial.
Yeah, they know how much they value him, literally.
But the money, like with $30 million thing, Yes, maybe he wasn't the kind of numbers you would expect a three year, $90 million guide to produce his impact on this Nuggets team as unquantifiable because he has touched every corner of it.
And if nothing else, it just unlocking Nicola Yokich is all he did for that contract.
It is worth it for Denver, right? So I do think that he is invested to stay in Denver. That's all conjecture.
But it seems to be adding up that way.
Well, he also was, like, excellent last year in the playoffs.
Like like excellent his some of his post numbers word like next level for especially for that first run I believe on If you go look at a 3.
3 numbers now you shooting like 42% from three this year.
Yeah, like re attempts ago.
I'll I love revolutionize game to be able to fit, and he plays the Draymond role defensively.
He's free safety behind everybody defensively has been masterful out of this, so he I think that he still he might not start next year.
It might be Jeremy Grant, but this Nugget team does not want to lose.
No way that hurts.
That hurts Teoh on their team like I get that but Paul Millsap.
But he's the guy that Denver is money toward because they know what he brings it.
It's him or or Serge Ibaka is the other one around here, which I don't think surgeon.
But I think Serge Ibaka has got one more contract.
I don't know why he would go for, like, the Emily, why he just had a unbelievable season.
He's either going to stay in Toronto or he's gonna That's the one I miss.
What is Masai? Always, always.
He pays his players and does not lose them for nothing.
You could go back to the known a deal all the way back in Denver in 2011 and he did the same thing.
He signed a NATO a three year deal and traded his ass.
Six months later, he does not let you walk out the building for free, so I don't see Serge Ibaka leaving.
I think you get the Kyle Lowry s like what, one year? $1500? Like That's the kind of thing I envisioned for him.
But I do love Serge Ibaka.
That's like the prime player that the Nuggets need around Nicola Yokich.
That's the kind of archetype that you need and Jobs and Isaac Archetype but, you know, evolution.
I e for this, man.
I'm definitely gonna like a minute. Just CCU.
Every time I get in some some online debate will actually gonna refer toa Teoh with mills happened.
And here are and spirit DiBacco you just tag team.
There's just these Oh, man.
Um, All right, I got to three more questions.
So, uh, what happens next? Like for them? Is it going to be a trade? The Nuggets? Will it be like a trade that they're looking for? Let's say it doesn't happen this year.
I think you and I kind of on the same page where they're probably gonna end up maybe a conference finals berth.
I'd probably say semis, but, um, for them, what does it look like next? Like, is it just continuing to build off Murray and see what you got in Porter Jr Bo Bowl? Or are you gonna sort of work around the fringes and look for, like, a trade of some type? Tim Connelly will not be quiet.
You will not just sit there idly by and let things go by him, so he will be on the phones.
Denver hasn't made a lot of splashy trades.
They have been involved on the phone and seemingly every trade that has gone down in the past five years.
But they will not jump on anything that does not directly help them and what they are trying to do.
They will not mortgage this.
So when it comes to the trades part, if it's not Bradley Bueller drew holiday Or, like maybe a Zach Lavine, that's not happening.
Wow, I like to talk about Zach losing yo wow show.
This is now in Chicago as their lead executive.
Oh, bigger version of Jamal Murray.
Imagine him screaming off DHS with Nicola.
Oh, man. See, I had Levine.
I had a weird fake trade that I don't even know how the money would work.
Put him in like L. A.
With brawn, just because kind of similar thing.
You work off his playmaking and you have him run, I guess.
That's kind of similar.
That's except really hope, setting screens and pass because he can shoot it.
I mean, you really can't like that's the 2% from three this year on like six attempts a game.
It was something pretty, pretty ridiculous But yeah, it's crazy, too, because I was I had heard through the g****vine, and this is not confirmed at all.
I had heard feel like like the third person in the text chain.
Then, like Zach Lavine was potentially a target for the Nuggets and that they might have been interested in with the trade online again, all speculation about how sure that is.
But when you start to look at how the mechanics of it could work, and when you look at the type of players that Tim Connolly likes, he's an old school Baltimore guy.
He likes the Will Barton's of the world who don't care and will come at you relentlessly.
Zach Lavine fits that incredibly well.
So that idea, like so again, if there's a trade target, those of the caliber of player you're talking about, what would that look like? Or all Star? The idea is that Gary Harris and Will Barton, I believe, was I get out and play numbers in a long time, and you start him next to to Marie Mall.
Yeah, at the to defensively is a lot of defensive tear again, like if you had a 40% 3 point shooter and who can dunk on everybody from one step inside the freezer.
Going off a screen from Nicola, you start making an argument that you can't be defended, right? Well, I've loved him like forever.
Like for I don't know why. It's like in a row.
It's not my typical, like typical player, whatever.
I usually likely passers and guys to defend hard, which But he for some reason, just like I gravitate toward the way he plays.
It's like so sink or swim and the guys I would never want to start to play with you like what is going on? But I do think he's like there's a role for him and the Nuggets do need like, you know, like that.
Will Barton role, I guess.
That's a weird one.
Just imagine the transition fund that Nicola Yogurt would happen way just like live in this fantasy world for a second, just like Zach Lavine, jumping from the three point line and floating like this is like nb a jam and getting right from the colon transition like the idea of those two is incredibly kid, and I think Michael Malone's hair would disappear within six months.
So much fun to watch.
But no, those are the only kinds of trades.
I imagine the Nuggets making okay, might make something like, you know you might make trade for, like, the 10th guy or something like that doesn't move the needle, just like let's just fill out the roster kind of deal.
So in my eyes, their best bet and what they're probably going to do if they can't get one of those near All Star All Star guys is they're going to run it back and then do what they can.
We'll see who sticks around, because again, they have so many impending free agents like they could lose their entire backup backcourt.
It could lose their starting power forward.
They could lose their utilitarian forward.
Right? Backup point guard is Monte Morris on non guaranteed contract next year.
There's a lot of concerns about who could be coming going from this Nuggets team next year, so they don't have a lot of decisions to make.
I would imagine that they stick to what they do to stick to the steps, don't skip any.
We're going to continually build this from within.
I imagine that the case, but we'll have to wait and see.
Kristen Connolly is on those calls, Man.
Which pre agency think would be back if they're gonna be sticking to the steps? That's it.
That's a Paul Millsap overturning Tory.
Craig will return.
That's another one I like.
Who doesn't like Curry Craig, Man, I don't think they called next tricks, Really.
I mean, Nicole is a beautiful game kind of guy into Craig is like the we call him Crash like Crash Bandicoot because everything like, so they're they're just different.
It was a person, but like sometimes you throw a perfect no look pass, somebody was not ready for it. It gets frustrating.
So a little bit of that.
But the Tory Craig thing there's a lodgings.
You want him offered him more money to the Nuggets that when he signed its contract with them.
So, like there are change work.
You almost broke that right? I I had I did my research.
I had the story written.
My phone in Vegas wouldn't charge the next day I wireless charger plugged into the wall into my computer.
And so, yeah, I missed the story.
Shams got it instead of me.
And I was furious, but e got to really bring that up.
Okay? I'm telling you, I'm gonna buy two phones.
I'm gonna be Paul Pierce up there trying to make sure, but I do think that Denver is gonna run it back.
It just makes more sense, I think.
Your story, Craig.
I think you're Jeremy Grant.
You might see Mason Plumlee come back if he's willing to accept the qualifying offer because there's gonna be no market for backup centers.
But no one has money.
No one will be throwing money centers.
You know, I think there probably retained.
Probably just because of that.
But we'll see, man, like these guys might feel that they're entitled Amore, and they sure should feel that way.
So what? You have to wait and see, right? Weird market.
I mean, who knows? I guess they're inflating at dodo like 109 So maybe it won't be like that like they are out of money.
And no one had money.
And you think injuring? About that? I was I was talking to Jeff Segal on my my podcast Early Bird, right? Yes.
Came in the hardest person.
Extremely great dude.
Like awesome person.
But San Diego, He lives in San Diego, which I moved from.
I moved from there two years ago from I was in O B, which is a super happy.
I know the but we were talking about this, and the players refused to smooth the cap when the money came in.
Do you remember the TV deal? Yeah, and not within the cap players to make all the money right now.
This collapses and the bubble doesn't work.
Honey, they're not the only thing that you want to smooth the cap, huh? You want to move in the opposite way? We're not doing that and it's gonna blow up.
So, like, there's a really a realistic situation here in which they do rip the stevia to pieces and it doesn't work, and no one has money.
Suddenly, you start careers get lost and things like that I'm trying to mentally prepare for that.
I would imagine that they were just up the credit line and trying and dry and fix the cat that way.
Right? But I'm the owners are gonna wanna do that.
It's more money to put it out on Leans, and that's not a good thing.
It's gonna be interesting.
Man like this has to go well, or you're talking about potentially a decade of N b.
A basketball going completely by the wayside, right? Right? Yeah.
Just like trying to come up with a new C B A and a pandemic is like, I don't even had a I don't start free agency like none of that exists.
You put a number down and you can't put the number down until this finishes.
They expect to do it like two days after the finals.
Like what? E very big issues. Mechanic.
I mean, and the start of next year to which is, like, also it's It's It was I was like, This is a really aggressive All right? You guys not obsolete.
It really were on zoom for 24 7 I could mainlining coffee. Yeah.
Yeah, because those were my concerns right now for sure.
Who? Fingers crossed.
Just get through the next three places.
What? Your favorite quote of this year, the We'll end on that.
I don't want to do the stat thing already asked that lesson.
Favorite quote alone has so many good ones. Yeah.
Oh, he's the king of one liners.
You can be like Two years ago, the Celtics came in.
Celtic stands were everywhere.
The Celtics lost as Jamal Murray put up 48 on Kyrie.
And then after that interview, Malone's talking and they were asked, like What's it like to silence on the Celtics? Santa were.
I don't care if it's Celtics fans, Warriors, fans or any fans, but you can come in here and take the L on the way out, just like Theo.
Earlier this year, he said, You could put that in your pipe and smoke it. That was amazing.
A walking quote is walking buckets.
Malone's walking quote from the journalism God's That man is incredible.
He cares about nothing.
I'm pretty sure that he liked, goes out drugs of beer and comes out to do his press conferences to, like, mellow out when you can, with us making fun of us that survived right there.
He is one of the best quote.
That is why I've always say, Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
That's pretty good.
That's pretty good.
I'm leaving you with this. Your music fan, right? Hip hop. EDIs.
What? You've been listening toe a few chip up That so? So I would listen to the new Odyssey album.
Just came out if you haven't listened, Odyssey.
Have not know O d d I s e odd.
I consented to you.
Yeah, he's awesome.
So he put a new album out.
Also, Freddie gives in the alchemist fire all.
Oh, I'm also like, I'm one of those, like deep producing hip hop heads.
Like I love my beats.
The alchemist made an album called Russian Roulette.
Yeah. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.
One of my favorite albums.
So would no, he did not use samples from that.
It does not exist in his work.
In that Alfredo album with one of the only water.
I was like, Whoa, I hear this.
Samples from Russian roulette and so hype on it.
So that's been high on my list.
Honestly, when I write and stuff and prepare, I listen to a tonic trapped.
So I've been on like old school Playboy Cardy from like before you blew up doing stuff with icy ****.
The producer 1,000,000 van Funny And all these old were people, right? I think there was 1 0/9 Wonder just put out a new production album as well.
He did like a super Collab with a bunch of people.
That was awesome.
Here is what the Odyssey album is called.
That came out odd care.
And then the last one is probably handsome boy modeling school.
Oh, yeah, that just came up.
Eso handsome bottle in schools.
Like an old school like, Yep, it's Dante.
Automate er making beats with a bunch of people like J la.
Did a bunch of music with nice.
And then And then, of course, I was talking to Tim Connelly.
And he happens to know J Villas.
Longtime best friend, Fat cat.
So I'm really j dilla run again.
Yeah, I was talking to him about, like, catching up bigotries.
Okay, You know what? You've been listening to hip hop guy to, you know, not too much, You know, listening to Dylan.
Fact gets a friend just like no big deal.
The most revolutionary producers history dropped that on people interested, but yeah.
So that's that's about where I've been.
And then last shot out. Nicholas F.
One of the most underrated dudes in hip hop out of Richmond, Virginia. Yep.
Don't listen to him, But he is so good.
Battle raps he will.
He was on those early drink states, like, really, really early under 15 song he did with them.
My good buddies from Richmond.
Me and Nick, I go back, actually, a nice, nice Yeah, I have I have some songs.
I saw it like an idiot.
I deleted probably about half of my music library, which was just the dumbest thing I've ever done.
Did that? Probably That was actually that was right when quarantine started.
And I was like, I'm so depressed about this because they're just years and years of work that goes into this.
But I'm like, But then again, I have to go find it all.
So I just I like this is great on, like, this is psychos can spot if I didn't have everything.
I have, like, 60,000 songs in ******l hard drive.
You need to have all of my my mind yeah, quiet recently that it's been terrible.
I I will say so.
One that came out semi recently skies Oh, and Dumbo Station was really good with Dumbo Station.
It's like, excellent, like production wise.
Later today it's It's like it's gorgeous, like gorgeous.
He was always been like deals in a Rhapsody as well.
Yeah, of course.
40 and Skies. You have the exact same style in exact same flow, and it's one of my favorite.
Just like it's not Guru gang Starr monotone, but it's similar to Yeah, and I've always been a sucker for Joey.
But that has put out something to single yet some stuff to listen to out there that I haven't gotten into you.
There's a little bit a little bit that came out today.
Then I guess, uh, I think I might be it.
And pretty gives Alfredo almost so good.
Did you like it better than Pignon? Torben, Dinner.
I like Kenyatta.
Probably the most out of three of those.
I can't I'm also married, Alchemist.
I think I also I also that, um yeah, I Anything, madam, is like.
It's on the ledger's alleged Let you plug away What you got coming.
Yeah. So there might be some new work. Come in.
We'll keep your eyes on the Twitter.
There might be some news that appears, so I can't get into too much detail yet.
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