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a lot more flexible to the point that we're now doing.
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Like I work at the branch of them.
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Have to come home and do, like, be available for ask library questions for now, or I just take phone calls and emails waiting for the embassies in What's that, boys? How we doing? Alright, right as rain.
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You notice hanging out.
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Don't we dio win for the embassy? Well, that big I'm upsetting at this and equal less and people joining here.
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Quick, it's nine o'clock.
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Six oclock in the house and right here, Toe top the hour.
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Good time to get everything on.
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Um, yes.
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So I don't know about you.
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All my team has touched down in Orlando.
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Um uh, I thought the ground shake when that happened.
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I knew that that wasn't me to throw shade, but, um My God.
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My God.
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Hey, don't speak for LeBron.
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Let's just Troy Daniels, You know, LeBron 80 and exactly maybe John Moran, but not LeBron.
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So Matsui's best player would never.
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Who is your team's best player? LeBron For the Lakers, it's next club question.
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I mean, what him make a d? I still give it another year and 1/2 LeBron a 35 is still debatable for the best point MBA right now.
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Depends how you feel about glide playing Hafiz games and Johannes.
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But the fact that you have that man in your 17 still in the conversation I still getting quiet just cause that's his first.
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He's a good, dominant man, but his body of work is just sold soon for me.
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I can't.
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But you know, like these play 17 years, 70 years.
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Oh, wow.
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Okay, Air.
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I see you've joined the rock as you want to drop us a link off the main use, Um, numbers in here.
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You know nothing.
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Put your microbes.
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You're not a little bit a little quieter than usual.
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Oh, yeah.
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You know, I just been, you know, keeping all this in.
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I chose Thanks a lot to be pushing.
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So let's dive in here.
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So the bubble is forming.
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Yeah, Except you're quiet and you are very quiet, so I'll speak.
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Speak.
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Okay.
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She is worth more mean.
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Okay, So the bubbles forming Seems to get down there for getting Ah, lots of news information.
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Come out there.
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Titus Jones posted a picture of a roach.
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That's kind of funny pictures on.
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Yes, I see they used to the Russian Memphis.
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Whoa! Sorry.
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Oh, what? You nothing.
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I mean, I'm already zero when Anna's Memphis.
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That's a potential HC matchup.
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So I quit early.
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Moreland starts doing a good, then I transition.
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Kind of like being on teams that are already now Man City, New Orleans, eight already walk.
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They got the entire backing of the entire boiled, That's sure.
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I mean, I listen, I honestly would rather see the pelicans just because I want to see the Lakers pelicans come full circle.
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I'm gonna see those Lakers guys get in the playoffs.
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Zion is a lot more electrifying than job in my own personal opinion.
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I mean, is I'm looking Is Memphis is put in the work their season, So I'm not just gonna put New Orleans in off the bat.
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Memphis won games.
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They weren't supposed to win, you know, they won games that were a one game they shouldn't.
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And that's why they they're and I can't like him if we're gonna face.
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And so you know, don't hold your breath.
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It's hard.
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I feel like that's ah, hot take.
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We're not This is the hot tape, but I feel like that baby point of discussion.
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What? Which, which players more like petrifying between the two? Not this, is that I don't think so.
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I was electrifying, but it's their different ways.
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They're different forms of electrifying.
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Yeah, you're trying.
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It's electrifying.
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Stuff just goes like, if you look at it because in the systems there and they're both equally electrifying sense that no jobs that franchise points are you guys looking for after Conley and then scientist, he's a freaking nature.
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So the way you just like both of them are electrifying in their own right.
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I think more than the field and jump out of the gym.
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But don't sleep on put.
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But my my thing about it, it's my thing about it is like sorry Logan being called.
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I'm sorry, **** why Logan got to do that.
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I think it's just different because like yacht is better with the ball making plays his eye on is I would argue he's a Yeah, I mean, I get it.
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It's more electrifying things in that regard.
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So like the time he does that and it's freakishly athletic to me makes a little more you complain and feel that makes sense, I think my comrades more electrifying of the pastor than Jai's hot take.
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That's a take its place.
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My colleague will not like about God.
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My colleague with the left hand.
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If I see John my own e I I'm as I mean.
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Listen, didn't we just argue about about grit and grind forever? And how we doing a 20 game for the best **** 88 point we see all night are about their last week.
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Okay, so that was fun.
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That was a fun road, Donald.
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88 points, Four threes a night.
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That was we Swath.
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Barilla knows fun, But now I'm kidding about the whole playmaking.
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I'm just saying, If I see Zion on a fast break, it's a wrap I thought she's on and transition.
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It's a wrap off, out based on out of bounds play.
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I'll you I'm just like Giant is Look, things is not the same.
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I mean, Josh small hey, had one like near dunk and we had one actual gunk on Aaron Banks.
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I was like, killer and well, they make that opposed.
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Hey, has a couple, but like you could look at Donnie knocked down four threes like back to back to back to back in Spurs threes.
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His first game was just a monstrous game, you know, I mean, like, it's I just think right now you have to give design with someone who I like.
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John is a great player.
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I want to see him, too.
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But if I had the choice between the two, I want to see Zion first is like I like Trey Young and I like Luca dancers.
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But like if you ask me what I want to see Mawr, I would see Luke I look up to and that's no difference.
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What I'm trying to use that no disrespected Trey Young the same way as anyone.
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To see Zion is no disrespect to Giant.
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It's not even comparison.
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I get it, but I'm just trying to say both are good, but at this point in time, one person is just a little ahead of the other.
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I think I won't disagree with that.
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I just a song you say.
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It's not like a huge gap.
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We're cool, like I know is that it's not It's not let me tell again.
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You know Steph Curry and Nick Young or something ***gy forever, man.
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Swaggy forever.
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Well, yeah, I think I think it's gonna be a neck and neck rivalry for a while.
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I think the South was that just it's going to be a blood bath here for for a little while.
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To very nice to spurs might actually be, like, bottom of thing, you know? Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Presidency my life, Eric talking about siren lawns will be in better designed, I think.
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Dude, I think lines over job Frank are yet at the point differences as a few point guard.
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Your point your point, Alonso.
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Right? I would not want to do it like Tim Fraser legs.
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I've Lanza was not that electrifying playmakers.
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What Lisa's I'm like, Did you see who his point guard was in? Dude e? Yeah, I'm saying in terms of like I don't think he needs you.
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Come out there with ****in what's his face.
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Bring back 38 year old Jameer Nelson's on will still love like a boss.
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Bring back Heinrich.
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I will bring back any old dying break Exactly, provided we bid to get the ball type hard court.
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You know I'm gonna work.
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You sleep.
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I'm just I don't I get I think there's some players that just are those people without, like, a standard guard don't respect to trade journals.
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Now, I'm not saying stand up. Please.
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Yeah, like he got that.
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You don't need a point guard around Bruce Brown.
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Could make. Could work with him.
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I mean, what other, like, mid to lower to your point guard.
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Can you name that? I go? Yeah.
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Not sign.
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Can work with that dude like I'll take any of the warriors.
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Point guards.
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He'd be fine to Frasier was fired.
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Yeah.
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Caruso, dude, new Caruso entering and John would be like stalking him alone. My dude.
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Caruso ends.
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I'll be like stock won't.
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Okay, like home.
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That sounds like the world ain't ready for that, Will.
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Jordan Clarkson.
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That's the government. Yeah, I came about the heat yet.
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Okay, Dante, Except I like that.
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I thought he would be nice, but, you know, to Terry Rozier resigned.
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I mean, I don't know.
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You know what? I can't with better answers.
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And I thought, listen whatever, like, Steri can be scary dough.
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Okay? I'm just saying it.
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Oh, my God.
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Resentment revealed.
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And 40% from three I know I had to.
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I had to, but like you had a year, he's still Ah, low average player.
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But like, yeah, I watch way too many shot of horning games, and I should have He wasn't horrible.
00:12:01
You know, Im not all I'm thinking right now is Arizona iced tea. I am fine.
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Yeah. I just ain't ready for the Zion.
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Karl Malone takes with Cruz.
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I get it, But stop sleeping on Caruso.
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I'm just trying to tell you do that Let up, Russo. Highlight.
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I live by the same.
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And if he's not in the top five, I'll take a ruse up now.
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I was sorry.
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I am gonna bring out Can you say something true? I had some Lakers fans come in and try to tell me about Alex Caruso.
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I learned a bit about it that I didn't know.
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He's, uh I'll admit he's better than I thought.
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Waas um I never thought he was a bad player, per se, but like after taking a closer look easy, but he's better than I thought.
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Like I remember watching him because he was the one way, uh, they had that little run.
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Uh, Nisman Karoo sounds better than I thought.
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I mean, of course I'm still going talking smack about him.
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You know, I'm still gonna get help, but they missed the free throw.
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But, you know, you're still bawling if you have to choose between Caruso or Tyus Jones.
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Who you taken this one? Caruso, its highest in the scheme of my current e in bills.
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Like, if I was, if I had to feel my second are you testified to my second point guard that John Moran.
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I could take hours.
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Crusoe coming up.
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I could take Tyus Jones.
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Who are you taking? Using time as the and give me out here as the team is currently built.
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I'm taking tires.
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But if we're starting there and building a *****, I'll take Caruso.
00:14:03
Because I think he may.
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I think he's the better player, per se.
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But I think for what we do with the ***** Tyus fits button, that would be my I I mean, I think I'm not.
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I disagree.
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I This is problems.
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I actually thought that I thought he would have been I thought he would be a great starting point guard.
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Uh huh.
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I thought it would've been a great starting point guard for the Timberwolves when they were start in Dough grows.
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But like the dude got defensive deficiencies like the news.
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Not like I don't think he ever projected like a ah LA long term starting point.
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He solid though he really saw.
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If I have to choose, I like guys don't shooting more than like Caruso's.
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Personally, I'm still take Russo on everything else.
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Defense rebounding.
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I Q.
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I mean, but it's not a knock on tires.
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I'm just I was asking you, can I know you're such a devoted Grizzlies? Dude, if you could just look at the two on a level and, like I said it for isolating them if I'm getting one on one, if I'm picking one on one, I say, Cruz, I was the better player.
00:15:18
But for the squad that we have in place and having on adventure it, I think I says I better fit that he would be, if anything, and this is a absolute no, Caruso would be a better replacement for D'Antin Melanson.
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He fits done in that role for us that he wouldn't size, knows his role, but in jail.
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No, I'm accused the acting notes saying so no one could have him.
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He stand with us forever.
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You know, Gotham would probably back me up on this, I think.
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Yeah.
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Grizzlies were be better swiping out either, uh, Jones or Melton with Quinn. Cook.
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Okay.
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Tell you saw with workers, like, all right.
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Right now? Yeah.
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Quickly. Some run.
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You give it a large like movies I like.
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I like the dude.
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The only thing is, he couldn't hit a shot in the finals against the Raptors.
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Nobody could hit a shot.
00:16:14
But, Quinn cook every other series that we had I love.
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I would not trip about having remember that due to Seth Curry.
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That was nice.
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Uh, uh huh.
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It's replaced it with a better curry.
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You know, once we find I want to read and write, I think, uh, I think if you saw Quinn cook for Tyus Jones, you get a little more scoring offense, slighting the less passing offense and a little bit fewest feels and I don't cook with you.
00:17:04
I'm not saying he's not a dog.
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I'm just I don't think he put superior numbers.
00:17:07
I don't think you know what I mean is don't Don't do that like he is not Iraq.
00:17:14
Grub like that.
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I think our because these guys are guys going plug in.
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And in a sense that the Grizzlies to be in a younger team, I'm gonna do like Quinn.
00:17:25
Craig.
00:17:26
Backup job is coming in, and you just need an average guard.
00:17:30
I mean that with the Bucks doing with frickin Eric Bledsoe, like just someone who's like he's.
00:17:35
So he's there.
00:17:37
It's not.
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It's not great point guard. He starts.
00:17:42
You know? I'm just hearing about comparing him to Eric Bledsoe.
00:17:45
Put like I like you wanted there.
00:17:51
Hey, will be in Phoenix.
00:17:53
He couldn't shoot enough.
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Can't shoot enough for you, honest.
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I mean, scary.
00:17:58
Terry owned him.
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I know we're making fun of scary Teri and everything, but he had blood cells lunch couple years back.
00:18:07
First team on defense.
00:18:08
I mean, he was still scary.
00:18:11
Tell, you just shocked him on that one.
00:18:14
Yeah, So I I know it.
00:18:18
Probably going athletic out there.
00:18:28
Oh, I mean, listen, uh oh, I wouldn't I'm just amazed by Laker a couple of years ago, but I think in unit says the Lakers fan a couple years ago, I wanted LaMarcus to be our Kobe heir apparent.
00:18:43
I wanted, um, frickin Ben.
00:18:46
What's his face? Um, Greg Monroe? Like we've been low.
00:18:50
How to get behind Ryan Kelly.
00:18:52
All right, You know what that does to a person? Exactly.
00:18:56
You.
00:18:57
I'm looking up there thinking that we've got to have Robert.
00:18:59
Soccer is a rotation level big.
00:19:01
I probably saw him Facebook one time I got under those words rotation level being and Robert Sock. Right? Okay.
00:19:07
I'm not rooting for Christmas games.
00:19:08
Hoping against hope that Wesley Johnson knocked down a couple more threes against a frickin Miami Heat.
00:19:14
Okay, with LeBron like, dude, no, no, I've been low.
00:19:18
It's been, has been roughed.
00:19:20
It's been rough.
00:19:21
Okay, there's Can you? I can't.
00:19:25
Oh, Chris came in.
00:19:30
Do it, dude.
00:19:33
I mean, we live in through that.
00:19:35
We went from some rough ones. Jordan Ale.
00:19:37
Oh, my gosh.
00:19:38
It's been can't all blow.
00:19:43
You guys aren't even the same for anyone.
00:19:47
I'll all I'm saying is that it's been some been some rough years.
00:19:51
Yeah, I forgot. We had Roy Hibbert.
00:19:53
I remember he had a cup of coffee there.
00:19:54
Thomas Roberts, Robinson.
00:19:57
If we had holds like out.
00:19:58
Oh, you just I was Ohio on him.
00:20:03
I will be honest.
00:20:05
Yeah, I brought that.
00:20:07
He lost that Kentucky.
00:20:09
That Kentucky, But you still nice.
00:20:11
I was like, Do this guy's going top five for sure. Top three.
00:20:14
I'll go go to the Kings and anybody.
00:20:17
I okay, something I I didn't think you start in the league Anything.
00:20:24
I definitely didn't think his career would be everything.
00:20:26
Once I only had a place he was.
00:20:29
He was on the Rockets for a little bit, too.
00:20:31
He was actually putting a lot of numbers, but, like producing, I thought it was what he would come in and do.
00:20:37
But no shot out the Guan**** Tigers.
00:20:39
Where you got it.
00:20:41
Yeah.
00:20:42
Shot to ah shot Kendall Marshall, who retired but had a great year for us one year when he averaged eight points, eight assists, and from my recollection, he had he was like, the next level of Stockton for a couple of years.
00:20:54
Way had, like, 16 assists in the game.
00:21:00
It will Farrell and I'm like, I'm gonna talk myself into him and any without a league.
00:21:05
Two years later, like bra.
00:21:10
Never forget when Kendall Marshall was that in Taylor Rocks.
00:21:15
What? And the horses did say that. Looks like he's in the league.
00:21:19
You got? You got a few more Get you.
00:21:25
I see.
00:21:27
Oh, yeah.
00:21:33
Come on, Marty.
00:21:34
Yeah. Oh, my God.
00:21:36
I forgot about Farmar.
00:21:37
He came back and I had a whole story in my head of his legacy.
00:21:41
How he had returned and he was ready to take over and bra.
00:21:45
Well, you're right.
00:21:46
I'm not.
00:21:49
No, no, no.
00:21:50
Hate on Steve Blake.
00:21:51
See Blake with a killer.
00:21:53
Steve Blake.
00:21:54
Was that do, but with the rest of them guys? Uh, yeah.
00:22:04
E did not know that. Taylor Brooks Story.
00:22:08
Yes.
00:22:09
You get it yet? Yeah.
00:22:11
Isn't that one looker with one of the Kardashians right out.
00:22:14
I mean, you just usually with yeah, Taleggio It's a model upon I mean, he started selling.
00:22:27
It's crazy at the you see those brains he had And then, like, Miami team, I think happen crazy.
00:22:48
You got people like Donna Roberts sitting over there.
00:22:52
They they clap in the hitting a threes.
00:22:54
You have one dude who think you should be Rookie of the Year in some alternate reality that only he exists in.
00:23:01
You have Tyler hero going all Braves and ish like he's somebody.
00:23:04
You have Jimmy Butler thinking he that that guy, he's that guy.
00:23:08
But like, Come on, you have really done anything yet.
00:23:11
Like I mean, like they say some face time, she got some some ****ing daisies.
00:23:16
You know, they think something else.
00:23:18
I was using my friends on that one.
00:23:23
Yeah, I guess we could make this, uh, last year.
00:23:32
Uh huh.
00:23:34
And then we can dive into something for real, though, so Yeah, listen somewhere about 20 minutes and everybody's war.
00:23:43
I'm so well didn't say this.
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I think he's figures on. Yeah.
00:23:55
You didn't say this is beginning, Teoh.
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So everybody wants us to talk about Jamal Crawford, 40 year old Jamal Crawford.
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Hey, look, I don't know.
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I don't know if I have seen it.
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It's hard.
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Five he dropped 51 in his last game.
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It's been like every other sweet on the timeline for, like, three weeks, essentially since he's the only guy in the MBA right now who could still play? Who has 4 50 point games? You telling me you can't pick up a guy like for video like Phat fashions Authority? Forget the fact that can play defense.
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Forget the fact that you know he's on the team to score.
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That's all he's gonna be able to at this point.
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You telling me right now there's not a team that can pick up the dude who have 50 points? I'm just saying.
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I mean Koi koi koi Brewer.
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He scored 20 points in the game. He's on the team.
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He's a case you standing.
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Kids can't look at. Look at Jay.
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Jason. Crossover.
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I'm going to say all of that cost over the Grizzlies, you know, maybe they I think you think in 2010 down 2020? Yeah.
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You say the bus that used a cross I wasn't warriors, they hope making.
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Now they're going to Chicago, remember? Stock a ball in a warrior and you say crossover.
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They need as I lost their backcourt.
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Yeah, I think what we're thinking back.
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They could take him off the street.
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You can come off the chat in the start point wars right now.
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Hogan, I mean, uh, started quite know.
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That's next, I think.
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Good six, man.
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Jamal Crawford. You got hired.
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I e sport with anyone.
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We have to see how good he is. Now.
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I don't see fasters.
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I think I think Sasha's onto something.
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I think this is a shot.
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Big three, for sure.
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Hey, still think you got sometimes leakers society.
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You done in there? Yeah, I think you're thinking that it's, like, 15.
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16 but, uh, I'm excited.
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I mean, he probably gets, um, a lot of playing time.
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This that's a no.
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What? All right.
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Would be fun to see anything.
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It's like I would love this just for like, a year on guaranteed deal.
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I mean it.
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If we want to get Britney toxic A.
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Let's just send Jamal Crawford keeps.
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Just have three eyes.
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Players.
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You need some shooting.
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You could always have somewhere shooting.
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That's not too crazy.
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I mean, that's crazy, but it is not too crazy.
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You got a veteran team.
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You guys ain't got what every young guy they got pretty.
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So you got a young team, you got E.
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You got old.
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You've got a young team, got a veteran team.
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You always need more three point shoot.
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When you playing a lot with Russell Westbrook.
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Love the do.
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I'm just saying I mean, you already playing a liberal former defense as it is not like on the top 10 in that category that you want.
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Todo exactly.
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So like, Why not? They're not.
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Just go Get back.
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Get your buckets.
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They're the They're the opposite of grit and grind, brother.
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Like who put up or shut up like you put exactly.
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OK, okay.
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Logan said it worse.
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Defender Jay Cross or Isiah Thomas.
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How you how you do that There.
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You I like if you're If I'm If I'm a midget, what can I do? I'm a slight batch of these, Jake.
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Thanks for having the worst, like competition of being like and being old, like in a physical game like that.
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Now, each I was just about to say like you're five.
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Not I'm dude like you're not defending anything.
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I'm calling it moment.
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Yeah, like like you like you.
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You done? I mean, I don't know.
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I just Oh, that's a tough It's tough when they both second defense allow.
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Oh, he actually is on the I miss that.
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Hello, Mrs. Over, Nets.
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Wow.
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I'm done, man.
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You re tuning out? Oh, yeah, he's on that.
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I saw the comments, but I'm sending on in my head.
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Why are they pushing Crawford to the Nets? Like I'm just like that.
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I'm glad and said aloud have been so stupid.
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So then I'm, like, living in a long time for a second and is the first thing I'm sort of like six hours.
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All right.
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Oh, that makes sense.
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My badge now? Yeah.
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Good.
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I mean, cool a man.
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I move on outside or inside.
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I thought about it, so I got a question about the outside.
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Oh, if they were to continue with the Chicago bubble, who wins it, you could.
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I mean, if I had everybody standing in place, and it's the warriors for sure, but I know they're not sending Steph Clay drain on.
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Um, I I honestly think that's the stupidest thing that could do.
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Like there's no supply.
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I'm not big on the idea if they decide to do it, I personally feel like somebody grab you.
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Give it to the wolves.
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If they cause I got towns, they got deal that Probably the most Dr Keen sense of talent.
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I know the war.
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You don't step.
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Quit drinking on.
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They're not gonna go play.
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Um, so I probably share the walls, but at the same this, that would be the stupidest.
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Like, there's no point.
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What wasn't for draft lottery? No, it is for them.
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So in any draft lottery, if that's if that's what it was.
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And maybe, but it's not even for that.
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So you're literally just gonna go play pickup? We're gonna see Oh, we have a Wolves, Bulls finals.
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I mean, isn't that will be Oh, yeah, that's true. Towns, towns.
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Another rest in peace made.
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That's a good question.
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Would he play? I don't think he'd want to honor at the like G league event.
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So I know that I don't know, part of being a part of you just feels like I don't tend you that big name players, like on any of the theology child.
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I'm going out there for the warriors below and stuff for the world's, um I just don't think it makes sense because they're planting nothing.
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Like, why would you? Strain's been a pretty big advocate for cleaning.
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From what I understand, I think I'm not.
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I'm not saying I'm not saying that there.
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I'm not saying that.
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Like, I haven't been updated entree young, but, um, I'm sure there are people that h in the play just cause they love the game.
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But I feel like the business I was like their like, people try.
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Young people are gonna be like, you just don't Don't waste wary.
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You haven't played in so long.
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You're not playing for anything.
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Um, I personally, I don't even know why the n b.
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A is trying to push that Just could if they were saying it was like a tournament to determine the lottery and fun.
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It just completely get we get Why you guys plan.
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This is literally just like playing to give us something other than that to day thing on way back.
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Hopefully if I had been breakdown another game, if I hit him, break down and nothing game about about how ah oh, um the way that the penetrate off the fast breaking gets the basket. It's something great.
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I'm looking.
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Oh yeah, we got basketball CNN screens on a video game.
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Are you kidding me? If control is amazing, you know why I stopped nuts? A man like I I watched that in case that's mine.
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I can't get behind that exactly like, have you watching a fine time commentary with Holly Lakers? See, Exactly exactly.
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There is a 56 overall working Foreman's cheapen likes my GM.
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Better I take a team I always simulate.
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The first year I traded mostly players I don't like for one year deal so I can come with cap space.
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And I thought from there on all every year I have always we could be the sun's GMO, right? I'm right here.
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I'm right here.
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You know, you move these guys you dump get morning your deals and go, you know, I mean, we bottom out would start fresh.
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I'm taking over your team with a contract that I don't want sign Rubio for three years in 28 can shoot.
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What's I get out of here, man.
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Both to the Grizzlies. I'm going.
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How not? Yeah, a lot of the Warriors.
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I'll be moving. Driving, Mama.
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You know what I mean? Like, that's my philosophy, but my playing on I just outside of basketball, I mean, I'm not I'm not.
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I'm glad you like it.
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Then I live, I carry.
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Yeah.
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Melo. Booker, you break best Big Three.
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My question since I've been do we're talking about somebody's season bubble teams, right? What team? I'm gonna score me some run out.
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Just three. I'm thinking about You have the Timberwolves.
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You have the Hornets.
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You got the Pistons.
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Both our teams that, you know, they fish where they were.
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What team has the best potential toe like make the playoffs of the next two years? And the reason I say that the Pistons will know what they doing right now.
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The Hornets have a bunch of guys that you be comfortable being.
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You know, your fist best player, six best players and their team made up of these players.
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And the Timberwolves have a big decision to make regarding Malik Beasley.
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Have, um uh watching her and Gomez, as well and seem to be leaning all offers no defence and their two best players the foundation of their team Let's just say that tremendously talented on one side of the ball and tremendously flowing the other like of these three teams.
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Which one do you have the most faith in between the Hornets, the Timberwolves in the fist? I'm curious.
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Year. What? Shaq out on that.
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I got the T wolves.
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Easy.
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Um, they got they got a nice, um, you got de Lo and towns.
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What think if once they had, like, sweats four weeks of the low, they can set up a team around those two is recorded.
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Got a big, big man who solid You got point guard solid.
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And for me in these, that's how I feel like you should.
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Um, that's the best way to build a playoff contending team.
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When you got two guys drunk or backcourt got talent and they know I definitely see and hopefully, like the people's front office getting face time now, but they get a nice, like bring player somebody I don't know, but I think they have most potential in the sense that they have direction right now.
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Um, compared like you said, the person you don't know what they're doing.
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Uhm that joke.
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Oh, but when It's the Hornets.
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I like the one in the I like him, too, but the Eastern Conference kind of makes that you knew right down.
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Think out that's the thing about in terms of just like making it conditionally.
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I definitely the tools because they were even before, like the low came like that squad ahead with millions in town.
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They were in until they had that, like huge gas like they got, they got the pieces not going the right direction.
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It's on the front office that put players on, get them there.
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But with the low and pounds, for sure, I definitely think gel Kogi.
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I don't know what Culver.
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I don't like to be honest.
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What I've seen, I don't watch much.
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That's my thing.
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Like if you look at the number, I mean junk over is the first year Fine.
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But like you have these two wings in a Koji a Kogi and in Culver who high energy defenders.
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I mean they can't shoot as a team like until those two must have a makeover after the trade.
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That line they take, they were like I said, I don't think I said this year, but they were the top three and three point attempts in the bottom three and actual conversion.
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So, like you showed him and that's great, but they're not going within the past few.
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Pusher is towns, which is amazing in terms of the package that he has offensively, who in your big manager best shooter on a team that primarily plays through the perimeter guys when you're not going through towns? Yikes, defensively, Uh, and let's not even mention him that your two best players they just what they are, they're not defensive players has gotten better in that way.
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But deal is not gonna do it and cats inconsistent.
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I'll get out on that end, so I don't see it that way.
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You have to run through like five or six teams like that are going to be a lot for the next two years.
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So you're thinking that the world in a gun battle between seven and 10 that's that's a slow, little marginal air. Be trying make the playoffs.
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Seven.
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Exactly you college kids, he put the Grizzlies.
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Tim was already looking out.
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That's what I was saying.
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Like all his face, it's easy to sell you the temples were not looking.
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Now you like.
00:39:41
Okay, so if the outscoring teams you go score some teams, you're going on for the Lakers.
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I mean, it's going t o know that's yet.
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So where is the Hornets? I don't see that was like their their their mediocre.
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Like they just aren't unless any player, unless they all take Devante Graham upgrades.
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They're all just lie argument.
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They all just like, yeah, And then I forgot the team.
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I mentioned the Pistons again.
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I don't know what to do with the Pistons.
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Do they on legs come back healthy and bringing you the way you got one more year on his contract or two, I think.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Taking out another year at least yet, because Lake still got like, he's what, 32 33. Something like that.
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31 31.
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Like he still like he's got some injury, you know, you still put him on a team that can use them, Uh, like better than and he had a big place.
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He has a player option in 2122.
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He's got at least one more one more year, Um, County.
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So I don't see I No team was like, they tracked him for first on picking and the teams like now, Boss, we paid you in that.
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Yeah, that's thing.
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That's because his contract so suspected.
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Oh, get that player options like 30 new yes, Clippers.
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But our Yeah, I don't know, because I just I think through disabilities like just, uh, just rebuild, like just blow it all up.
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Get start from scratch to you can't build around a 31 year old break Bleeker's It just doesn't now, especially when you can achieve in the misleading again.
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And it's time for fortunate.
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But it is what it is.
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And like he's been there for, like, us to season season, having something like and they haven't made the playoffs.
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You obviously haven't worked out yet.
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You free up some space.
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Well, this is a problem.
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Works the Hornets.
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I mean, decent.
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They got they got a young team. Germany.
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Uh, very, uh, I just don't like, but I don't see them.
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I don't see what they're doing that's yet, But the luxury day out of being on things where you could be So I mean you absolutely, you just get in there.
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But like you're in that.
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Like you're in that tough zone where you're not gonna be getting any Martin picks and your union bounce pressure.
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And over the last year, it was like I just haven't seen them.
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What they've been trying to do, you make don't terrors.
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You're a bunch of money.
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They find a sneaky guy.
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Defonseca, Ram.
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They got Miles Bridges who can be exciting.
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But what does he become? Leak Monk is probably more like a six man, you know, this straight score type of guy, Cody Zeller Kind of Bloods hose that they had beyond Bo one of big contact points like I just I just didn't even see.
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I don't see what they're doing.
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They got Malik, by the way, chemist.
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And now the rotation.
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He's played a bit.
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He just But he's been enough. The doghouse.
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Especially while Dwayne Bacon was out trusting.
00:43:27
I watched Ah bunch of born again.
00:43:28
Yes, I saw I saw Monk up in there, but I see what you're saying.
00:43:32
Yeah, Atlanta, Right.
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Like you just got back into Yeah, he every state he was he Eliza thing, He was having his shooting numbers or just raw, but he had a couple of stretches where he looks good this year or not last really good.
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I mean, like, Okay, you look adequate.
00:43:50
Like he many came in the first year.
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I don't think he's going to justify his drive spot.
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He just is it, But a solid He's abject. 10 3 and three.
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Is there like six mankind? Yeah.
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Yeah, like a poor man's Jordan Clarkson.
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This high C Yeah.
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I think that when you have that and what well, can sit in the chance of a really good point.
00:44:18
It's guard heavy.
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I had contracts and it's like, um just kind of like the guards are great.
00:44:25
Did people think if they were exactly exactly so? And when the sad thing is But the between a rosier and rosier Anna Graham, they weren't.
00:44:36
I mean, if they trust you like you could say devante and you wouldn't be wrong Proven anything wants 25 already rosier 26 upside.
00:44:48
I mean, I don't want to say when DeVante exploded this season, but I don't see another explosion next season.
00:44:53
You got as good as they were individually this season.
00:44:57
The courts were in the bottom in offense efficiency, an offense in general, it was terrible to watch at times.
00:45:03
And that's what So many guards.
00:45:04
You have so many potential offensive initiators.
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And yet you suck at offense.
00:45:10
Yeah, you know, like they got They got guys.
00:45:13
The only only, like, bright spot I could see you can package Devante are carriers year.
00:45:21
And, like with some of the other clothes you have and try and get something even then like, whose we're gonna get, like in terms of a lot of these guys are not on your contract.
00:45:33
So it's gonna be, like, a one year kind of thing.
00:45:35
Where, where they're getting my not in sun back.
00:45:38
So they're in a shooting situation, Not a city is big pistons just cause this is really got nothing but home.
00:45:51
Yeah, that's true.
00:45:54
The pistons are The Pistons are They're just Yeah, they're just rough.
00:45:59
Yeah.
00:46:00
Huh.
00:46:01
Yeah.
00:46:02
Lets besides, so besides the warriors, because I think that, you know, here they're definitely the best on the bubble or outside of the team.
00:46:11
Who do you think because I'm looking at these teams and I'm not seeing like I'm not I don't expect the bulls to be much better.
00:46:22
The way I e get mellow, but still, they're not that good.
00:46:26
Pensions me.
00:46:27
Talk about the Hawks.
00:46:29
Hawks is a team that I would always have.
00:46:31
They got these young back in potentially do something.
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Got quarter trade, Kim reddish, uh, Helena.
00:46:41
Um uh, so they got they got three or four young guys that, you know, maybe, especially being in the east where you could potentially see some Jacob hopefully get a free agent or something for calves and garbage.
00:46:56
I come into the west and I see the timber wasn't Timberwolves.
00:47:02
Obviously, we talked about that.
00:47:04
They haven't meet some sort of path.
00:47:05
Obviously, we're gonna be back in contention next year, so I'm obviously of course, I e I feel like the like, the West.
00:47:18
I think next year is going to be really fun to watch.
00:47:21
Says that there's gonna be 14 teams out of the 15.
00:47:25
There might be 15 teams that are all the whole Western Conference is at least competitive enough to make a lot of the playoffs.
00:47:33
You load on line.
00:47:35
Yeah, I'm just I'm just looking at not even like I'm looking 9 to 15.
00:47:40
We got the blazers have likings Kings Spurs Suns team was worried.
00:47:46
That's what I mean.
00:47:47
Like, I don't see the Wolves with a Z, right? Get that Rightfully.
00:47:50
They lost about 18 heading up to the stoppage, but they were playing way better.
00:47:55
You know, actually, James Johnston.
00:47:56
Ownership, ownership, Putting, not ownership, not Sarver, but the front office putting clears on Devin Booker that fit better, you know, Boom.
00:48:04
And then I'd be underage and suspension.
00:48:07
That must have one good there, one solid point guard, like I'd like Rubio, but for like for right now, you face.
00:48:13
But they're one like they won a trip point guard away from making exactly that king.
00:48:20
That's almost like, Okay, then, you nice pelicans places.
00:48:26
That's all I'm saying is like saying and how we don't fit the temple is in there.
00:48:33
We're almost to the That's why it's more interesting when you think about the situation like okay, team, but they last the top 10 in the West.
00:48:45
In my mind, isn't that while you got 15 teams that are all poised to be solid in the sense that you can name anyone in the western part of the greater injury gap and with the offseason way is going to be more than likely.
00:48:59
These rosters are gonna come back intact next season, except with Warriors who gain addition by the subtraction they have this season.
00:49:06
So put them in another team, you know, I mean the East, you write like the Bulls.
00:49:13
They have.
00:49:14
Some players have something that could do, but they kind of stuck.
00:49:16
The Hornets are kind of stuck.
00:49:18
I still think they have a better chance of making it over the Wolves in the West.
00:49:22
Just because it's not like like the Hornets or the or the Bulls are like, Okay, let's say the Pacers drop out.
00:49:28
Let's say Victor Oladipo's traded or is injured again and they fall down Well, then the horns could just toggle up with staff.
00:49:33
Whatever right you would need, like three teams in the West to just totally cave in for me to really go all the rooms, they got a shot.
00:49:46
I don't know, he said.
00:49:48
Warriors being fringe playoff way, at least Warriors for And we cannot get the world's only had that many games, but I'm saying they're ceiling on that offensively.
00:50:00
Great.
00:50:01
I'm still not picking them over like 78 different teams, you know? I mean, like, that's good.
00:50:05
Like you for everything.
00:50:08
You could make the same argument for literally every single team in the West that, like, I could say, the pelicans don't have a healthy team until, like, I've got back.
00:50:16
And then they thought Bones, um, the blazers were Nurkic.
00:50:20
Turns out for a while now he's back like everybody was going through.
00:50:24
Um, like everybody's going through, like, that shortened stuff where they weren't able to reach their full potential with just what makes this, like, restart so dope, because the terms of team chemistry or, like, nobody's been playing together.
00:50:36
So it's your starting fresh at first town's gonna carry you.
00:50:39
But at the end of day, you ever play together the quickest, Which is why I mean, you have the Lakers didn't have the markets comes all year, you know, I would have been, you know, I mean, like, come on, now, let's be real about this, like you got Well, it's No, it's so hard to just be like, you know, this one team didn't, like, obviously.
00:51:03
Yeah, you guys got entirely new like half of you to with the t wolves but find give him given entire season.
00:51:09
Do you really think that they still make the top? I don't think that that's they got.
00:51:19
They got a lot of scope and potential like they like if they did make it to the top.
00:51:24
But I wouldn't be like like they got a solid team.
00:51:29
Got a couple of pieces they need to put around.
00:51:30
But I don't see him being top 10 or 11 in the West next season.
00:51:36
Nope.
00:51:37
And the looks.
00:51:38
But, you know, crazy competitive about it.
00:51:41
And so, um, not to interrupt their changing too much.
00:51:49
You still talk about trash Teams? Don't know if you saw the randomizer trade that I just did.
00:51:55
E.
00:51:56
I saw you can in the comments I was talking with Cam about, you know, about the guard heavy horn.
00:52:03
And suddenly, let's just send three guards from the to the Knicks for three big from the Hornets and I went to a randomizer.
00:52:10
It's put the rosters in and red meat selected three.
00:52:14
And here's what came out the next, and Bobby Portis, Mr Robinson and Kevin Knox in the Hornets for Joe Chili, delaying Bacon and Caleb Martin I'll get to you.
00:52:26
I haven't heard of half those dudes on the Katie.
00:52:30
Love is a solid defender doing.
00:52:33
Bacon's been out of the rotation.
00:52:36
Uh, not whole Jiri.
00:52:37
I never heard that.
00:52:38
Got you not have a lot of run, Mr Robinson.
00:52:42
Come on.
00:52:43
You know they're not giving up for anyone.
00:52:44
The hornets side Bobby Portis.
00:52:46
Yeah, I guess it could be have.
00:52:48
And Kevin Knox.
00:52:49
Possibly I get what you mean.
00:52:51
I mean, it was really right about a little wins.
00:53:02
I mean, there's no where the next go for that.
00:53:05
That's a bold, but still, I never look.
00:53:09
I am such a huge I'm my A huge Mitchell Robinson fan.
00:53:16
And if I'm the next, I hold on to him in his lunch box like he's not ever going to come like top option in.
00:53:28
Yeah, absolutely.
00:53:29
He's not gonna be like top box office of around 10.
00:53:31
Put like he's a player you can have on a winning team.
00:53:36
Even if the dates modern Gay.
00:53:39
He's the guy that he's a guy, that he would be one of those difference makers in a playoff on a playoff team like Adam right now, like the dude can rebound and defend, Um, can jump like you Like that's that's just the kind of you gonna you if I could get Natural Robinson alongside their exact since junior, uh, never happened saying, I believe not many people do.
00:54:19
You gotta be traded and after.
00:54:21
No, never, never, ever has Mr Robinson song life.
00:54:27
I mean, that's not that.
00:54:31
I say in the sense that you gotta move.
00:54:39
I would favor you read Ignace breast decades from Michigan, I think.
00:55:00
Oh, that one do for the knicks.
00:55:01
The acres shooting some early.
00:55:03
Yeah. Him.
00:55:04
Yeah.
00:55:05
Yeah.
00:55:09
I, uh Let's listen in this on one.
00:55:12
Good subject matter, it's something good for the what you got.
00:55:23
Alright.
00:55:24
Somebody in the chat drop was one fired thing to trade us.
00:55:26
T end us out.
00:55:29
Anybody get, we'll see if we can get Logan job.
00:55:35
Something that somebody anybody.
00:55:38
I swear about the books we're in time. I know.
00:55:43
But today Oh, come on.
00:55:47
Yeah, like you.
00:55:52
Money making the cab. Okay.
00:55:54
Okay. Okay.
00:55:55
Dancing in the cab's I like the cabs of you who's on the town now.
00:56:02
We got into the cab.
00:56:03
Obviously, I like the calves, and I kind of like some of their reasons they have in place.
00:56:09
They still got away Two ways to go, in my opinion.
00:56:13
But I like whether it is Tatum, a future VP.
00:56:16
Yes, yes, yes.
00:56:25
Signed before Kate.
00:56:27
Embeth say that one word after the baby is going before Tatum dust.
00:56:36
Now with your first That's that's I don't know, because not 35 received more.
00:56:48
Well, a lot.
00:56:53
I would let you out.
00:56:57
Oh, my bad.
00:56:58
I heard my going on.
00:57:00
Take it. I'm actually glad Didn't share going.
00:57:04
So speaking of ah, Kate, um weaker four.
00:57:10
Drop their competencies Fall forwards And he was number five.
00:57:13
Agree or disagree who was at a level I can't answer the question one.
00:57:22
Her wise number one.
00:57:23
Lebron's number two.
00:57:24
But Jimmy Butler's three Luca is four.
00:57:27
Chris Middleton is five late.
00:57:28
Notice the wrong list.
00:57:33
Oh, I just had to lose croupier Anyway, it was like Tatum five Middleton.
00:57:42
I wanna say butler Bronco y I confirmed that here to say I don't like it over about like you take away and take them off color.
00:57:56
Call Kanye for easy.
00:58:00
If I don't have a listen, it was ah, it was LeBron Kawai.
00:58:06
So I got that backwards slightly. Middleton.
00:58:09
Tatum.
00:58:11
I feel now I'm solid out.
00:58:16
10.
00:58:17
Nelson Solid.
00:58:19
You know who's the Who's after? Who's out there.
00:58:24
So the Tops enlisted goes after taking You.
00:58:27
Got Ingram Hayward to Rosen.
00:58:29
Who will Barton and Bosnian Bogdanovich.
00:58:36
I mean, I don't know.
00:58:38
Small movements that apparently no, I also came weakening and we not Can we not do the whole? The honest is M V P.
00:58:47
This year I've watched enough here.
00:58:50
Bones from Johannes Watch over Marquis basketball game against Lakers.
00:58:54
I've watched the honest enough.
00:58:56
I'm sticking with LeBron.
00:58:58
Okay, that's all I'm saying.
00:59:03
I don't know.
00:59:04
You don't know? Okay, let me find it again.
00:59:14
My list of top.
00:59:15
Let me go back through the double.
00:59:17
Check Logan's outcome for me.
00:59:20
Dude, you guys are all over the bucks.
00:59:22
The I even watch Lakers games, OK? Do we not see LeBron's greatness? All right, That's the right thing in your life.
00:59:32
The honest doing now I'm just saying Giuliana is done.
00:59:35
School and everything.
00:59:36
Look, he has the best team, the best record.
00:59:37
Whatever.
00:59:38
Come on, think about it all.
00:59:40
Move your bias, Lawyer.
00:59:41
You're prepared all the book said.
00:59:47
That's how every piece have been selected the last few years, the best player on the best.
00:59:52
So I now now, but friends going to say it's honest, and if he gets voted, I'm not going to I'm not gonna agree.
00:59:58
It shouldn't matter, Eric, but it does.
01:00:01
It shouldn't matter.
01:00:02
But it does okay, if it's the narrative and the narrative is a big thing.
01:00:07
I listen at a free honest when he has stuff.
01:00:12
The started narratives, he shot easily from it, the whole of the whole harden thing.
01:00:17
That wasn't a thing, because John has walked it back the whole on the king around.
01:00:21
Think of Laban that Yonas walked back.
01:00:24
I mean, come on.
01:00:27
I'll give these a try, but definitely picked up that.
01:00:32
But I I could see honestly, I could see.
01:00:39
I could see either.
01:00:40
LeBron are.
01:00:43
He is very honest.
01:00:47
Uh, the honest had the best record, but LeBron also I feel like with the team around him, did more.
01:00:54
I know you had a d, but after that, the bucks at the box after the house, no matter how you're thinking if you go by Yon is having a good team guys fault than 2017.
01:01:13
Russell Westbrook team wasn't that good, but oh, because his team was like You could pick and married a free one who is only 23.
01:01:20
He's 35.
01:01:21
His team was 47 35 the scene with 50 and 15.
01:01:25
We could do this all day, you know.
01:01:27
I mean hard Versi honest last year.
01:01:29
Hard to shoot one.
01:01:30
In my opinion last year, all the stuff he did, but the honest one NBP that you don't like, it doesn't.
01:01:36
Let's stop acting like there's like a strict set of laws for how the MVPs takes.
01:01:40
Now, that is a big year by year by year, but the same time I think it's off things in my offseason.
01:01:45
I feel like they pick M V p in the off season, and they just speak into existence.
01:01:50
John, it was, has been developing great and all of a sudden boom offseason happen, Iliana.
01:01:54
So Johansson, once that ball started going harden through some tremendous performances last year.
01:01:59
I don't even like the mayor puts him.
01:02:01
Two tremendous performances last season didn't even really have a chance because the goddess train was up and rolling.
01:02:10
I'm just saying if you think the regular season and playoffs in the context are you probably won't even be in the conversation after a certain point out of this, as I'm saying, Westbrook, defend that one till I'm blue in the face because yes, it was only for the triple double, but I don't see anyone else doing that.
01:02:31
I see you, my man, You got a team out was off great for the playoffs.
01:02:35
But that was what was the NDP for 2017 Russell Westbrook ornaments.
01:02:40
If that M v P now you know what I mean.
01:02:43
Announcement in yachts and LeBron both for good players.
01:02:45
Vote for Gary.
01:02:46
Honest is the better player or more dominant player on the detained.
01:02:49
So should be hit on LeBron because the bucks beeper.
01:02:54
God, I don't understand.
01:02:56
You know what I mean? I'm just saying, like a lot of it is, I don't know that Mr Part The Bucks are on pace to hit 70 games before they didn't win seven games.
01:03:04
There is over OK, 70 getting their rakers were on pace to win 82 games before they lost their first game.
01:03:13
Oh, my God I like like that.
01:03:16
You go way once every three.
01:03:19
So you know, I mean, it's Seth Curry.
01:03:23
2020 16.
01:03:24
They got, they got, they talk.
01:03:25
That's great.
01:03:26
I'm not saying winds don't matter.
01:03:27
I'm just saying, like, let's let's let's not just like oh, that's the end all be all because we know it's not so at the end of day I'm saying all that to say that, yes, I'm actually for you, honest living and BP.
01:03:39
But I'm not going to make him a cake walk because everyone saying it's cakewalk because like, Yeah, I guess it is.
01:03:44
But the same time is there's an argument to be out.
01:03:46
I mean, I just put one of just now you know what I mean.
01:03:49
It's because I saw something.
01:03:52
There's I think LeBron we've been saying Janette since October.
01:03:59
You could probably find you could probably find people saying Yonas for M V P From when the season first started.
01:04:04
Like I wrote like the like, the end of every race is always determined in the 1st 3 weeks and seen and then from there is how you elevate that.
01:04:16
From that template, LeBron and yonder start to ones that would probably have the best case when and honestly, I I would You can't go wrong.
01:04:29
I mean, my my my question would be I want to see the last M v p.
01:04:33
That wasn't like, brought up and trump it up in the first months of the season.
01:04:37
That didn't hold out the rest of the way.
01:04:39
I mean, like, really with Westbrook was there.
01:04:43
Westbrook worked there.
01:04:44
What's from my bin? Last toughest one? Because you had Westbrook.
01:04:47
You had Kawai.
01:04:48
You had Harden.
01:04:49
You have LeBron and I was, like, 20.
01:04:53
That was step one.
01:04:54
Step 1 2015 He came out of like the warrior.
01:04:57
But Harden was in the numbers in the sense that, like the way you look at it, but more likely 2015 2016.
01:05:07
No contest, Steph.
01:05:08
2017 Russell.
01:05:10
Individual statistics. LeBron.
01:05:12
I'm sure you know the words of that.
01:05:13
LeBron Kawai.
01:05:14
Hard boom. 2018.
01:05:17
Done. Easy.
01:05:18
You know, it was had to be our and after all that, then 2019 that had to be honest. 2020.
01:05:24
It asked to be honest, like after 2017 I don't really think we've had Oh, it could be one of the other one.
01:05:30
Name gets thrown out.
01:05:31
They have some solid months, everyone just behind that name.
01:05:34
And that is what it's going to be.
01:05:36
And then you have a phone booth 17 with that.
01:05:40
Hard to that hard rest debate was So I had a couple moments, remember, we made a big deal, collides back to back games.
01:05:47
Or if we made a big joke wise, he had a solid season.
01:05:49
Let's not forget it.
01:05:50
He had to solve it.
01:05:51
The Heat was leading his first thing that had no business, winning 20 games.
01:05:54
They did.
01:05:55
But there was that one game against the Rockets we had that block on.
01:05:58
He had a big three and then the block on art, and you're like, Oh my God, that's the NDP play right there.
01:06:05
Wow, you have boil it down to one sequence in one game like this is amazing.
01:06:12
It's even took Russell toe in the three point or triple double game against Denver to solidify it because, you know, that's what I personally think, that they should take the media away from voting all of your stuff and give it to the coaches or not even the players. Just culture.
01:06:28
You're at least gonna get somewhat of a non biased answer our boat in the sense that the other guys that are going through the grind like media people, they're going to be pushing whatever narrative they want.
01:06:40
Yeah.
01:06:41
So, having people like Rachel Nichols, Michelle beautiful boating on any piece because that's what their talk shows are all for, Like, they're gonna be milking those boys.
01:06:54
Yeah, especially.
01:06:56
I mean, maybe one thing if it was just a media, but like we'd be on Twitter, I'm sure all of us, when it's a chance of my time on Twitter and you see them top on the narratives as well.
01:07:03
So I don't think it's just like when I have time ball minds what I expect Fans do like fans.
01:07:12
Obviously, we're gonna be speculating who's about a year every year who should be this way.
01:07:17
We don't get a vote like we're not the ones voting on it.
01:07:20
When the people that are voting on it are the ones like oh, that should be They're just pulling out stuff that we're talking about and using that combo, whatever narratives they have and they're the ones that are voting like that's that's just yeah, yes, I mean, you know, then you have those someone to take it from me on it.
01:07:37
So that means that public favor has to go from the honest.
01:07:40
You have to drop his points a game iota visits.
01:07:43
You have to be more stack that people started looking on.
01:07:45
It's like, Oh, well, you're good with your team is good, like like that's what I mean.
01:07:48
It's not until someone takes away from its until the narrative ships from him or he falls on the Earth.
01:07:53
Play life because last I checked, LeBron's game has been pretty much consistent for the past 10 years.
01:07:58
But the narrative has not been on the side for most of those 10 years.
01:08:01
The same.
01:08:02
You have different storylines and leaving Miami and going to Cleveland.
01:08:05
I'm coming back.
01:08:07
Same thing someone take.
01:08:09
I mean, you could say Steph Curry took it away from LeBron.
01:08:11
LeBron was still another 27 16.
01:08:13
He was still in the 2017 it was in last year, but I'm just saying if we're gonna go by my most valuable player, I don't like the whole he has to get taken away from that because that insinuates that it's an option on the table we're gonna get.
01:08:26
It's not and and into insinuate that, to me is ludicrous because we know this is four or five players all the time.
01:08:34
No one's making DEMAR DeRozan older.
01:08:36
Marta Rosa M V P.
01:08:37
When he had his three point shot two years ago, you know, he was on a good team in the East.
01:08:41
He was playing like a dominant player.
01:08:42
He had improved his game.
01:08:44
That's three check marks, right of the arbitrary and the secrets we have.
01:08:48
Nobody could say, you know that you know what I mean.
01:08:52
The game Ever get into that situation? Do.
01:08:57
But it's never been the conversation.
01:08:58
I mean, I mean, I mean this saying, like, took the load management everything.
01:09:07
He's on a good team.
01:09:08
He's playing well.
01:09:09
He's improved its Maybe I'm a mitt cynical, but I just don't have no one.
01:09:14
Give me argument.
01:09:15
That makes me believe it's anything more than just what that is, which is about four or five people.
01:09:19
You peg it early, and then if they continue with a moderately successful level of play, then we have no reason to quote unquote take it away from him.
01:09:28
Yeah, I know that you have won and you make a very about that.
01:09:32
I mean, that's just the way work is like you started there. It's early.
01:09:35
And even if the player just place decently as those noble effect and no one was willing to think outside the box, no one's willing to think like, oh, how you like, you know, let like Mike.
01:09:47
In my opinion, last year in Toronto, Oh, might have been caused this chance.
01:09:52
One M v p.
01:09:53
But he's never gonna win that because of various reasons.
01:09:56
He's never gonna have that narrative behind him.
01:09:58
He had an incredible year that we have to the finals.
01:10:01
But like he was never truly seen as a viable candidate.
01:10:06
I don't know who I ever was considered a top five candidates for MTV is not only thing that will be like in it.
01:10:19
Honestly, ridiculous.
01:10:21
Yeah.
01:10:22
I mean, I really like the Lucas and the trade young and starting to get in there like from next year, and you're gonna have people like you.
01:10:35
And then I think table believe when you start talking about, like legacies for these guys.
01:10:40
Like as we get there way.
01:10:42
Use the rap on Kobe going again One.
01:10:44
But you mean Rob 3 to 3 times.
01:10:47
She should have wanted out of the six.
01:10:49
He got to have the name of the proposed expulsion one.
01:10:52
Because now we're now the narrative.
01:10:54
Have to come out because the narratives took first over the play.
01:10:57
Then you look back and you're like, Oh, well, you feel looking back.
01:11:00
He probably should have won it for the way he actually played within Adams on Steam National.
01:11:03
Now we'll give him this one.
01:11:05
Chris Paul, He ain't never went in one.
01:11:07
When that was his best chance to win when he was deservedly in my pain the M V p of the show, they seize it.
01:11:12
Look cool. We got the legacy of B p.
01:11:14
And then you're right. Cool.
01:11:15
Let's say, quite three years from now he'll be aged 32 is averaging 25 5 and five.
01:11:22
But John is averaging 28 eight and seven and Troy Young is in the mix now a Lucas ascending whatever.
01:11:30
And they all have reasonable records.
01:11:33
If you can't use the local wise 32 a drug or do you want to use? We're going to wait till the narrative comes out on.
01:11:38
Well, guess what? Trade.
01:11:40
Making his teammates better.
01:11:41
Luke Adoption is to continue to prove every year you honest has been a beast for four consecutive seasons.
01:11:47
First desire on in there? Yeah, exactly.
01:11:50
Exactly.
01:11:51
That's going to say, And then they're gonna come out with, You know, Yang is the first player to shoot 26% from three and 69% free throw line, but averaged 30 points and 12 rebounds of 56 on Tuesday.
01:12:01
But the Milwaukee Bucks on Christmas against the Lakers like like Come on, come on.
01:12:07
Okay, you know, it's gonna have a mobile where you like.
01:12:12
Uh, it's just so funny.
01:12:16
I was so funny.
01:12:17
You say that because, like when I was growing up, my dad said that exact same stuff like he used to say exactly what you're saying.
01:12:23
Like they pull of the grand, the most specific staff you confined.
01:12:27
And every time I see that, a graphic about it's not like Larry Bird, Magic Johnson and Daddy is young.
01:12:32
You know, I think about all the time.
01:12:35
It was like he said that his whole like my entire life for my destiny, and I always thought like, Oh, you're just Oh, here's being cynical.
01:12:43
But like as I've gotten older, like I get like, I'm just like it's ridiculous what they do to try to put these people on pedestals that they're already on And no one's threatening to take them off.
01:12:54
Like, even know.
01:12:57
Nobody's going to deny that Johannes is a great player, probably a face of the lead coming up.
01:13:02
Nobody's getting out that LeBron James is doing things a 35 we've never seen.
01:13:05
Like all of these things can be true.
01:13:06
And at the same time.
01:13:08
And we can still say anyone Luca's interview you, Tracy.
01:13:12
They can all coated just on different pedestals in the lead.
01:13:15
Yeah, I, like just let him play like the then you have.
01:13:23
You can have debates for, like 78 different guys that are every piece.
01:13:27
How do you decide which I feel like when you have the best guy on the best team, that putting up numbers? That's the easiest template to kind of force that narrative, in the sense that most valuable player because there's there's gonna be like there's gonna be, like, 10 guys that are having Havenaar commit to.
01:13:47
So without these narratives, how do you decide that? Also, we're going by the best record.
01:13:55
I mean, let's say let's say we continue gone.
01:13:56
So I was gonna be a four time baby because the Bucks win 60 plus games in the East, you know, being or LeBron when he was with the Cavs, he would have been a six time M v p.
01:14:08
You know, playing with Cleveland.
01:14:09
Best team in the East.
01:14:10
You know, I'm saying, like in terms of it, that's where I get the fluctuation.
01:14:14
But I'm with you on that and I'm with Bailey in the same vein.
01:14:17
I can't wait.
01:14:18
There's gonna be something crazy.
01:14:19
I can't wait till it's gonna be like the job for society race.
01:14:22
And they're gonna give the M V p j No, no, because build it to more rants.
01:14:31
Impact on the floor.
01:14:33
We're gonna start attributing teammates individual improvements to the MVP's because they would not be doing their own internal improvement on their game without the presence of four gravity or LeBron's passing mastery or I don't even know what you don t like.
01:14:49
I feel like it's going to go that way.
01:14:51
It's gonna go that way.
01:14:52
Like if someone's the most improved player.
01:14:54
Well, then he hasn't played with MPP because how else could he possibly get better without this greatness next to him? Insert player? Exactly.
01:15:08
I don't disagree with anything.
01:15:21
I gotta find both, All right.
01:15:24
They just let all of our writers of the lead boat we should be the only needed way.
01:15:32
Got new ones conversation the baby? Yes.
01:15:36
I mean, imagine if God just said, Well, imagine God just said Clay Thompson should be M V P next year.
01:15:41
And then Bailey's like, Yeah, and I'm like, You know what? Yeah, and then and then we just you being here.
01:15:48
He just came back from a serious injury.
01:15:49
The Warriors are markedly improved like he averaged.
01:15:52
Like you, there's three storyline that's ahead just on him, stepping on the floor under such a devastating injury.
01:15:57
Last year's finals.
01:15:58
To be able to come back on the floor and put the right at age 29 with Order team and Steph Curry and all these young guys and being such a mentor and they're like 57 25 Tick tick boom NDP.
01:16:15
I'll just say That's my long game shoots 38% from three next year.
01:16:21
That's crazy homes.
01:16:22
That way we can even say 35 36.
01:16:25
He's automatically MPP next year.
01:16:27
I'm putting it in John the status That'll be the narrative.
01:16:30
And that way you just get better.
01:16:36
And very finally, at a three point shot.
01:16:37
Now he's unstoppable.
01:16:39
Forget Chris Milton being a great side piece by piece.
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Looks forget.
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There's welcome being a great psychic.
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Forget the supporting cast.
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Being a strong as they are.
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Forget young players I don't even know Pack continent Still No, um he is, but not Dante de Vincenzo.
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Other guys stepping up, stepping up and being great, Great, great in their own development.
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We're gonna put on there because e he's just just so awesome, you know? I mean, when I'm gonna look out of the players in terms of how great Down comparison Dan could be leaving, the Timberwolves are number Timberwolves, but the blaze is the number two seed in the West next year.
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That's important, right? Especially concerning out stack the letter B, but best player besting improvement like that's how it feels.
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I'm not saying is gonna happen, but that's how it feels, you know? I don't know.
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Wednesday's Lead: The Bubble is Forming...

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Gautam Ratnam @GautamTLSM

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a lot more flexible to the point that we're now doing.
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Like I work at the branch of them.
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Have to come home and do, like, be available for ask library questions for now, or I just take phone calls and emails waiting for the embassies in What's that, boys? How we doing? Alright, right as rain.
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You notice hanging out.
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Don't we dio win for the embassy? Well, that big I'm upsetting at this and equal less and people joining here.
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Quick, it's nine o'clock.
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Six oclock in the house and right here, Toe top the hour.
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Good time to get everything on.
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Um, yes.
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So I don't know about you.
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All my team has touched down in Orlando.
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Um uh, I thought the ground shake when that happened.
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I knew that that wasn't me to throw shade, but, um My God.
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My God.
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Hey, don't speak for LeBron.
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Let's just Troy Daniels, You know, LeBron 80 and exactly maybe John Moran, but not LeBron.
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So Matsui's best player would never.
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Who is your team's best player? LeBron For the Lakers, it's next club question.
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I mean, what him make a d? I still give it another year and 1/2 LeBron a 35 is still debatable for the best point MBA right now.
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Depends how you feel about glide playing Hafiz games and Johannes.
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But the fact that you have that man in your 17 still in the conversation I still getting quiet just cause that's his first.
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He's a good, dominant man, but his body of work is just sold soon for me.
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I can't.
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But you know, like these play 17 years, 70 years.
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Oh, wow.
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Okay, Air.
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I see you've joined the rock as you want to drop us a link off the main use, Um, numbers in here.
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You know nothing.
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Put your microbes.
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You're not a little bit a little quieter than usual.
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Oh, yeah.
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You know, I just been, you know, keeping all this in.
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I chose Thanks a lot to be pushing.
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So let's dive in here.
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So the bubble is forming.
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Yeah, Except you're quiet and you are very quiet, so I'll speak.
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Speak.
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Okay.
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She is worth more mean.
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Okay, So the bubbles forming Seems to get down there for getting Ah, lots of news information.
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Come out there.
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Titus Jones posted a picture of a roach.
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That's kind of funny pictures on.
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Yes, I see they used to the Russian Memphis.
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Whoa! Sorry.
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Oh, what? You nothing.
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I mean, I'm already zero when Anna's Memphis.
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That's a potential HC matchup.
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So I quit early.
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Moreland starts doing a good, then I transition.
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Kind of like being on teams that are already now Man City, New Orleans, eight already walk.
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They got the entire backing of the entire boiled, That's sure.
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I mean, I listen, I honestly would rather see the pelicans just because I want to see the Lakers pelicans come full circle.
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I'm gonna see those Lakers guys get in the playoffs.
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Zion is a lot more electrifying than job in my own personal opinion.
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I mean, is I'm looking Is Memphis is put in the work their season, So I'm not just gonna put New Orleans in off the bat.
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Memphis won games.
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They weren't supposed to win, you know, they won games that were a one game they shouldn't.
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And that's why they they're and I can't like him if we're gonna face.
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And so you know, don't hold your breath.
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It's hard.
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I feel like that's ah, hot take.
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We're not This is the hot tape, but I feel like that baby point of discussion.
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What? Which, which players more like petrifying between the two? Not this, is that I don't think so.
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I was electrifying, but it's their different ways.
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They're different forms of electrifying.
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Yeah, you're trying.
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It's electrifying.
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Stuff just goes like, if you look at it because in the systems there and they're both equally electrifying sense that no jobs that franchise points are you guys looking for after Conley and then scientist, he's a freaking nature.
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So the way you just like both of them are electrifying in their own right.
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I think more than the field and jump out of the gym.
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But don't sleep on put.
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But my my thing about it, it's my thing about it is like sorry Logan being called.
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I'm sorry, **** why Logan got to do that.
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I think it's just different because like yacht is better with the ball making plays his eye on is I would argue he's a Yeah, I mean, I get it.
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It's more electrifying things in that regard.
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So like the time he does that and it's freakishly athletic to me makes a little more you complain and feel that makes sense, I think my comrades more electrifying of the pastor than Jai's hot take.
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That's a take its place.
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My colleague will not like about God.
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My colleague with the left hand.
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If I see John my own e I I'm as I mean.
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Listen, didn't we just argue about about grit and grind forever? And how we doing a 20 game for the best **** 88 point we see all night are about their last week.
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Okay, so that was fun.
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That was a fun road, Donald.
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88 points, Four threes a night.
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That was we Swath.
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Barilla knows fun, But now I'm kidding about the whole playmaking.
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I'm just saying, If I see Zion on a fast break, it's a wrap I thought she's on and transition.
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It's a wrap off, out based on out of bounds play.
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I'll you I'm just like Giant is Look, things is not the same.
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I mean, Josh small hey, had one like near dunk and we had one actual gunk on Aaron Banks.
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I was like, killer and well, they make that opposed.
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Hey, has a couple, but like you could look at Donnie knocked down four threes like back to back to back to back in Spurs threes.
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His first game was just a monstrous game, you know, I mean, like, it's I just think right now you have to give design with someone who I like.
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John is a great player.
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I want to see him, too.
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But if I had the choice between the two, I want to see Zion first is like I like Trey Young and I like Luca dancers.
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But like if you ask me what I want to see Mawr, I would see Luke I look up to and that's no difference.
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What I'm trying to use that no disrespected Trey Young the same way as anyone.
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To see Zion is no disrespect to Giant.
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It's not even comparison.
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I get it, but I'm just trying to say both are good, but at this point in time, one person is just a little ahead of the other.
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I think I won't disagree with that.
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I just a song you say.
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It's not like a huge gap.
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We're cool, like I know is that it's not It's not let me tell again.
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You know Steph Curry and Nick Young or something ***gy forever, man.
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Swaggy forever.
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Well, yeah, I think I think it's gonna be a neck and neck rivalry for a while.
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I think the South was that just it's going to be a blood bath here for for a little while.
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To very nice to spurs might actually be, like, bottom of thing, you know? Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Presidency my life, Eric talking about siren lawns will be in better designed, I think.
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Dude, I think lines over job Frank are yet at the point differences as a few point guard.
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Your point your point, Alonso.
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Right? I would not want to do it like Tim Fraser legs.
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I've Lanza was not that electrifying playmakers.
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What Lisa's I'm like, Did you see who his point guard was in? Dude e? Yeah, I'm saying in terms of like I don't think he needs you.
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Come out there with ****in what's his face.
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Bring back 38 year old Jameer Nelson's on will still love like a boss.
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Bring back Heinrich.
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I will bring back any old dying break Exactly, provided we bid to get the ball type hard court.
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You know I'm gonna work.
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You sleep.
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I'm just I don't I get I think there's some players that just are those people without, like, a standard guard don't respect to trade journals.
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Now, I'm not saying stand up. Please.
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Yeah, like he got that.
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You don't need a point guard around Bruce Brown.
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Could make. Could work with him.
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I mean, what other, like, mid to lower to your point guard.
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Can you name that? I go? Yeah.
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Not sign.
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Can work with that dude like I'll take any of the warriors.
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Point guards.
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He'd be fine to Frasier was fired.
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Yeah.
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Caruso, dude, new Caruso entering and John would be like stalking him alone. My dude.
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Caruso ends.
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I'll be like stock won't.
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Okay, like home.
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That sounds like the world ain't ready for that, Will.
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Jordan Clarkson.
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That's the government. Yeah, I came about the heat yet.
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Okay, Dante, Except I like that.
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I thought he would be nice, but, you know, to Terry Rozier resigned.
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I mean, I don't know.
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You know what? I can't with better answers.
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And I thought, listen whatever, like, Steri can be scary dough.
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Okay? I'm just saying it.
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Oh, my God.
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Resentment revealed.
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And 40% from three I know I had to.
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I had to, but like you had a year, he's still Ah, low average player.
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But like, yeah, I watch way too many shot of horning games, and I should have He wasn't horrible.
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You know, Im not all I'm thinking right now is Arizona iced tea. I am fine.
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Yeah. I just ain't ready for the Zion.
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Karl Malone takes with Cruz.
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I get it, But stop sleeping on Caruso.
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I'm just trying to tell you do that Let up, Russo. Highlight.
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I live by the same.
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And if he's not in the top five, I'll take a ruse up now.
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I was sorry.
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I am gonna bring out Can you say something true? I had some Lakers fans come in and try to tell me about Alex Caruso.
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I learned a bit about it that I didn't know.
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He's, uh I'll admit he's better than I thought.
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Waas um I never thought he was a bad player, per se, but like after taking a closer look easy, but he's better than I thought.
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Like I remember watching him because he was the one way, uh, they had that little run.
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Uh, Nisman Karoo sounds better than I thought.
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I mean, of course I'm still going talking smack about him.
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You know, I'm still gonna get help, but they missed the free throw.
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But, you know, you're still bawling if you have to choose between Caruso or Tyus Jones.
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Who you taken this one? Caruso, its highest in the scheme of my current e in bills.
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Like, if I was, if I had to feel my second are you testified to my second point guard that John Moran.
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I could take hours.
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Crusoe coming up.
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I could take Tyus Jones.
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Who are you taking? Using time as the and give me out here as the team is currently built.
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I'm taking tires.
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But if we're starting there and building a *****, I'll take Caruso.
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Because I think he may.
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I think he's the better player, per se.
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But I think for what we do with the ***** Tyus fits button, that would be my I I mean, I think I'm not.
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I disagree.
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I This is problems.
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I actually thought that I thought he would have been I thought he would be a great starting point guard.
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Uh huh.
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I thought it would've been a great starting point guard for the Timberwolves when they were start in Dough grows.
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But like the dude got defensive deficiencies like the news.
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Not like I don't think he ever projected like a ah LA long term starting point.
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He solid though he really saw.
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If I have to choose, I like guys don't shooting more than like Caruso's.
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Personally, I'm still take Russo on everything else.
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Defense rebounding.
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I Q.
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I mean, but it's not a knock on tires.
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I'm just I was asking you, can I know you're such a devoted Grizzlies? Dude, if you could just look at the two on a level and, like I said it for isolating them if I'm getting one on one, if I'm picking one on one, I say, Cruz, I was the better player.
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But for the squad that we have in place and having on adventure it, I think I says I better fit that he would be, if anything, and this is a absolute no, Caruso would be a better replacement for D'Antin Melanson.
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He fits done in that role for us that he wouldn't size, knows his role, but in jail.
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No, I'm accused the acting notes saying so no one could have him.
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He stand with us forever.
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You know, Gotham would probably back me up on this, I think.
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Yeah.
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Grizzlies were be better swiping out either, uh, Jones or Melton with Quinn. Cook.
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Okay.
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Tell you saw with workers, like, all right.
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Right now? Yeah.
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Quickly. Some run.
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You give it a large like movies I like.
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I like the dude.
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The only thing is, he couldn't hit a shot in the finals against the Raptors.
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Nobody could hit a shot.
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But, Quinn cook every other series that we had I love.
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I would not trip about having remember that due to Seth Curry.
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That was nice.
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Uh, uh huh.
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It's replaced it with a better curry.
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You know, once we find I want to read and write, I think, uh, I think if you saw Quinn cook for Tyus Jones, you get a little more scoring offense, slighting the less passing offense and a little bit fewest feels and I don't cook with you.
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I'm not saying he's not a dog.
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I'm just I don't think he put superior numbers.
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I don't think you know what I mean is don't Don't do that like he is not Iraq.
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Grub like that.
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I think our because these guys are guys going plug in.
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And in a sense that the Grizzlies to be in a younger team, I'm gonna do like Quinn.
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Craig.
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Backup job is coming in, and you just need an average guard.
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I mean that with the Bucks doing with frickin Eric Bledsoe, like just someone who's like he's.
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So he's there.
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It's not.
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It's not great point guard. He starts.
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You know? I'm just hearing about comparing him to Eric Bledsoe.
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Put like I like you wanted there.
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Hey, will be in Phoenix.
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He couldn't shoot enough.
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Can't shoot enough for you, honest.
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I mean, scary.
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Terry owned him.
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I know we're making fun of scary Teri and everything, but he had blood cells lunch couple years back.
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First team on defense.
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I mean, he was still scary.
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Tell, you just shocked him on that one.
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Yeah, So I I know it.
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Probably going athletic out there.
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Oh, I mean, listen, uh oh, I wouldn't I'm just amazed by Laker a couple of years ago, but I think in unit says the Lakers fan a couple years ago, I wanted LaMarcus to be our Kobe heir apparent.
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I wanted, um, frickin Ben.
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What's his face? Um, Greg Monroe? Like we've been low.
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How to get behind Ryan Kelly.
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All right, You know what that does to a person? Exactly.
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You.
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I'm looking up there thinking that we've got to have Robert.
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Soccer is a rotation level big.
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I probably saw him Facebook one time I got under those words rotation level being and Robert Sock. Right? Okay.
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I'm not rooting for Christmas games.
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Hoping against hope that Wesley Johnson knocked down a couple more threes against a frickin Miami Heat.
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Okay, with LeBron like, dude, no, no, I've been low.
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It's been, has been roughed.
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It's been rough.
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Okay, there's Can you? I can't.
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Oh, Chris came in.
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Do it, dude.
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I mean, we live in through that.
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We went from some rough ones. Jordan Ale.
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Oh, my gosh.
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It's been can't all blow.
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You guys aren't even the same for anyone.
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I'll all I'm saying is that it's been some been some rough years.
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Yeah, I forgot. We had Roy Hibbert.
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I remember he had a cup of coffee there.
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Thomas Roberts, Robinson.
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If we had holds like out.
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Oh, you just I was Ohio on him.
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I will be honest.
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Yeah, I brought that.
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He lost that Kentucky.
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That Kentucky, But you still nice.
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I was like, Do this guy's going top five for sure. Top three.
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I'll go go to the Kings and anybody.
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I okay, something I I didn't think you start in the league Anything.
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I definitely didn't think his career would be everything.
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Once I only had a place he was.
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He was on the Rockets for a little bit, too.
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He was actually putting a lot of numbers, but, like producing, I thought it was what he would come in and do.
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But no shot out the Guan**** Tigers.
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Where you got it.
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Yeah.
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Shot to ah shot Kendall Marshall, who retired but had a great year for us one year when he averaged eight points, eight assists, and from my recollection, he had he was like, the next level of Stockton for a couple of years.
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Way had, like, 16 assists in the game.
00:21:00
It will Farrell and I'm like, I'm gonna talk myself into him and any without a league.
00:21:05
Two years later, like bra.
00:21:10
Never forget when Kendall Marshall was that in Taylor Rocks.
00:21:15
What? And the horses did say that. Looks like he's in the league.
00:21:19
You got? You got a few more Get you.
00:21:25
I see.
00:21:27
Oh, yeah.
00:21:33
Come on, Marty.
00:21:34
Yeah. Oh, my God.
00:21:36
I forgot about Farmar.
00:21:37
He came back and I had a whole story in my head of his legacy.
00:21:41
How he had returned and he was ready to take over and bra.
00:21:45
Well, you're right.
00:21:46
I'm not.
00:21:49
No, no, no.
00:21:50
Hate on Steve Blake.
00:21:51
See Blake with a killer.
00:21:53
Steve Blake.
00:21:54
Was that do, but with the rest of them guys? Uh, yeah.
00:22:04
E did not know that. Taylor Brooks Story.
00:22:08
Yes.
00:22:09
You get it yet? Yeah.
00:22:11
Isn't that one looker with one of the Kardashians right out.
00:22:14
I mean, you just usually with yeah, Taleggio It's a model upon I mean, he started selling.
00:22:27
It's crazy at the you see those brains he had And then, like, Miami team, I think happen crazy.
00:22:48
You got people like Donna Roberts sitting over there.
00:22:52
They they clap in the hitting a threes.
00:22:54
You have one dude who think you should be Rookie of the Year in some alternate reality that only he exists in.
00:23:01
You have Tyler hero going all Braves and ish like he's somebody.
00:23:04
You have Jimmy Butler thinking he that that guy, he's that guy.
00:23:08
But like, Come on, you have really done anything yet.
00:23:11
Like I mean, like they say some face time, she got some some ****ing daisies.
00:23:16
You know, they think something else.
00:23:18
I was using my friends on that one.
00:23:23
Yeah, I guess we could make this, uh, last year.
00:23:32
Uh huh.
00:23:34
And then we can dive into something for real, though, so Yeah, listen somewhere about 20 minutes and everybody's war.
00:23:43
I'm so well didn't say this.
00:23:48
I think he's figures on. Yeah.
00:23:55
You didn't say this is beginning, Teoh.
00:23:57
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00:24:18
So everybody wants us to talk about Jamal Crawford, 40 year old Jamal Crawford.
00:24:26
Hey, look, I don't know.
00:24:28
I don't know if I have seen it.
00:24:30
It's hard.
00:24:31
Five he dropped 51 in his last game.
00:24:34
It's been like every other sweet on the timeline for, like, three weeks, essentially since he's the only guy in the MBA right now who could still play? Who has 4 50 point games? You telling me you can't pick up a guy like for video like Phat fashions Authority? Forget the fact that can play defense.
00:24:59
Forget the fact that you know he's on the team to score.
00:25:02
That's all he's gonna be able to at this point.
00:25:04
You telling me right now there's not a team that can pick up the dude who have 50 points? I'm just saying.
00:25:09
I mean Koi koi koi Brewer.
00:25:11
He scored 20 points in the game. He's on the team.
00:25:13
He's a case you standing.
00:25:14
Kids can't look at. Look at Jay.
00:25:16
Jason. Crossover.
00:25:20
I'm going to say all of that cost over the Grizzlies, you know, maybe they I think you think in 2010 down 2020? Yeah.
00:25:35
You say the bus that used a cross I wasn't warriors, they hope making.
00:25:42
Now they're going to Chicago, remember? Stock a ball in a warrior and you say crossover.
00:25:49
They need as I lost their backcourt.
00:25:51
Yeah, I think what we're thinking back.
00:25:58
They could take him off the street.
00:26:00
You can come off the chat in the start point wars right now.
00:26:04
Hogan, I mean, uh, started quite know.
00:26:13
That's next, I think.
00:26:16
Good six, man.
00:26:17
Jamal Crawford. You got hired.
00:26:19
I e sport with anyone.
00:26:24
We have to see how good he is. Now.
00:26:26
I don't see fasters.
00:26:28
I think I think Sasha's onto something.
00:26:32
I think this is a shot.
00:26:36
Big three, for sure.
00:26:37
Hey, still think you got sometimes leakers society.
00:26:40
You done in there? Yeah, I think you're thinking that it's, like, 15.
00:26:47
16 but, uh, I'm excited.
00:26:49
I mean, he probably gets, um, a lot of playing time.
00:26:51
This that's a no.
00:26:54
What? All right.
00:26:56
Would be fun to see anything.
00:26:57
It's like I would love this just for like, a year on guaranteed deal.
00:27:05
I mean it.
00:27:06
If we want to get Britney toxic A.
00:27:08
Let's just send Jamal Crawford keeps.
00:27:13
Just have three eyes.
00:27:15
Players.
00:27:18
You need some shooting.
00:27:21
You could always have somewhere shooting.
00:27:22
That's not too crazy.
00:27:25
I mean, that's crazy, but it is not too crazy.
00:27:30
You got a veteran team.
00:27:31
You guys ain't got what every young guy they got pretty.
00:27:36
So you got a young team, you got E.
00:27:39
You got old.
00:27:40
You've got a young team, got a veteran team.
00:27:42
You always need more three point shoot.
00:27:44
When you playing a lot with Russell Westbrook.
00:27:45
Love the do.
00:27:46
I'm just saying I mean, you already playing a liberal former defense as it is not like on the top 10 in that category that you want.
00:27:53
Todo exactly.
00:27:58
So like, Why not? They're not.
00:28:00
Just go Get back.
00:28:01
Get your buckets.
00:28:02
They're the They're the opposite of grit and grind, brother.
00:28:04
Like who put up or shut up like you put exactly.
00:28:09
OK, okay.
00:28:12
Logan said it worse.
00:28:13
Defender Jay Cross or Isiah Thomas.
00:28:16
How you how you do that There.
00:28:21
You I like if you're If I'm If I'm a midget, what can I do? I'm a slight batch of these, Jake.
00:28:29
Thanks for having the worst, like competition of being like and being old, like in a physical game like that.
00:28:41
Now, each I was just about to say like you're five.
00:28:43
Not I'm dude like you're not defending anything.
00:28:47
I'm calling it moment.
00:28:50
Yeah, like like you like you.
00:28:52
You done? I mean, I don't know.
00:28:59
I just Oh, that's a tough It's tough when they both second defense allow.
00:29:07
Oh, he actually is on the I miss that.
00:29:11
Hello, Mrs. Over, Nets.
00:29:13
Wow.
00:29:15
I'm done, man.
00:29:16
You re tuning out? Oh, yeah, he's on that.
00:29:18
I saw the comments, but I'm sending on in my head.
00:29:21
Why are they pushing Crawford to the Nets? Like I'm just like that.
00:29:25
I'm glad and said aloud have been so stupid.
00:29:27
So then I'm, like, living in a long time for a second and is the first thing I'm sort of like six hours.
00:29:32
All right.
00:29:33
Oh, that makes sense.
00:29:34
My badge now? Yeah.
00:29:40
Good.
00:29:44
I mean, cool a man.
00:29:52
I move on outside or inside.
00:30:00
I thought about it, so I got a question about the outside.
00:30:11
Oh, if they were to continue with the Chicago bubble, who wins it, you could.
00:30:20
I mean, if I had everybody standing in place, and it's the warriors for sure, but I know they're not sending Steph Clay drain on.
00:30:31
Um, I I honestly think that's the stupidest thing that could do.
00:30:34
Like there's no supply.
00:30:37
I'm not big on the idea if they decide to do it, I personally feel like somebody grab you.
00:30:46
Give it to the wolves.
00:30:47
If they cause I got towns, they got deal that Probably the most Dr Keen sense of talent.
00:30:54
I know the war.
00:30:56
You don't step.
00:30:57
Quit drinking on.
00:30:59
They're not gonna go play.
00:31:00
Um, so I probably share the walls, but at the same this, that would be the stupidest.
00:31:05
Like, there's no point.
00:31:07
What wasn't for draft lottery? No, it is for them.
00:31:12
So in any draft lottery, if that's if that's what it was.
00:31:17
And maybe, but it's not even for that.
00:31:19
So you're literally just gonna go play pickup? We're gonna see Oh, we have a Wolves, Bulls finals.
00:31:28
I mean, isn't that will be Oh, yeah, that's true. Towns, towns.
00:31:34
Another rest in peace made.
00:31:37
That's a good question.
00:31:38
Would he play? I don't think he'd want to honor at the like G league event.
00:31:45
So I know that I don't know, part of being a part of you just feels like I don't tend you that big name players, like on any of the theology child.
00:31:57
I'm going out there for the warriors below and stuff for the world's, um I just don't think it makes sense because they're planting nothing.
00:32:07
Like, why would you? Strain's been a pretty big advocate for cleaning.
00:32:12
From what I understand, I think I'm not.
00:32:15
I'm not saying I'm not saying that there.
00:32:17
I'm not saying that.
00:32:18
Like, I haven't been updated entree young, but, um, I'm sure there are people that h in the play just cause they love the game.
00:32:26
But I feel like the business I was like their like, people try.
00:32:30
Young people are gonna be like, you just don't Don't waste wary.
00:32:36
You haven't played in so long.
00:32:37
You're not playing for anything.
00:32:39
Um, I personally, I don't even know why the n b.
00:32:42
A is trying to push that Just could if they were saying it was like a tournament to determine the lottery and fun.
00:32:50
It just completely get we get Why you guys plan.
00:32:54
This is literally just like playing to give us something other than that to day thing on way back.
00:33:03
Hopefully if I had been breakdown another game, if I hit him, break down and nothing game about about how ah oh, um the way that the penetrate off the fast breaking gets the basket. It's something great.
00:33:16
I'm looking.
00:33:17
Oh yeah, we got basketball CNN screens on a video game.
00:33:20
Are you kidding me? If control is amazing, you know why I stopped nuts? A man like I I watched that in case that's mine.
00:33:35
I can't get behind that exactly like, have you watching a fine time commentary with Holly Lakers? See, Exactly exactly.
00:34:07
There is a 56 overall working Foreman's cheapen likes my GM.
00:34:16
Better I take a team I always simulate.
00:34:23
The first year I traded mostly players I don't like for one year deal so I can come with cap space.
00:34:29
And I thought from there on all every year I have always we could be the sun's GMO, right? I'm right here.
00:34:38
I'm right here.
00:34:40
You know, you move these guys you dump get morning your deals and go, you know, I mean, we bottom out would start fresh.
00:34:49
I'm taking over your team with a contract that I don't want sign Rubio for three years in 28 can shoot.
00:34:57
What's I get out of here, man.
00:34:59
Both to the Grizzlies. I'm going.
00:35:01
How not? Yeah, a lot of the Warriors.
00:35:06
I'll be moving. Driving, Mama.
00:35:08
You know what I mean? Like, that's my philosophy, but my playing on I just outside of basketball, I mean, I'm not I'm not.
00:35:16
I'm glad you like it.
00:35:17
Then I live, I carry.
00:35:20
Yeah.
00:35:24
Melo. Booker, you break best Big Three.
00:35:30
My question since I've been do we're talking about somebody's season bubble teams, right? What team? I'm gonna score me some run out.
00:35:40
Just three. I'm thinking about You have the Timberwolves.
00:35:42
You have the Hornets.
00:35:43
You got the Pistons.
00:35:45
Both our teams that, you know, they fish where they were.
00:35:49
What team has the best potential toe like make the playoffs of the next two years? And the reason I say that the Pistons will know what they doing right now.
00:35:58
The Hornets have a bunch of guys that you be comfortable being.
00:36:01
You know, your fist best player, six best players and their team made up of these players.
00:36:05
And the Timberwolves have a big decision to make regarding Malik Beasley.
00:36:09
Have, um uh watching her and Gomez, as well and seem to be leaning all offers no defence and their two best players the foundation of their team Let's just say that tremendously talented on one side of the ball and tremendously flowing the other like of these three teams.
00:36:25
Which one do you have the most faith in between the Hornets, the Timberwolves in the fist? I'm curious.
00:36:29
Year. What? Shaq out on that.
00:36:32
I got the T wolves.
00:36:33
Easy.
00:36:34
Um, they got they got a nice, um, you got de Lo and towns.
00:36:39
What think if once they had, like, sweats four weeks of the low, they can set up a team around those two is recorded.
00:36:46
Got a big, big man who solid You got point guard solid.
00:36:51
And for me in these, that's how I feel like you should.
00:36:56
Um, that's the best way to build a playoff contending team.
00:36:59
When you got two guys drunk or backcourt got talent and they know I definitely see and hopefully, like the people's front office getting face time now, but they get a nice, like bring player somebody I don't know, but I think they have most potential in the sense that they have direction right now.
00:37:22
Um, compared like you said, the person you don't know what they're doing.
00:37:25
Uhm that joke.
00:37:28
Oh, but when It's the Hornets.
00:37:32
I like the one in the I like him, too, but the Eastern Conference kind of makes that you knew right down.
00:37:41
Think out that's the thing about in terms of just like making it conditionally.
00:37:46
I definitely the tools because they were even before, like the low came like that squad ahead with millions in town.
00:37:52
They were in until they had that, like huge gas like they got, they got the pieces not going the right direction.
00:38:01
It's on the front office that put players on, get them there.
00:38:06
But with the low and pounds, for sure, I definitely think gel Kogi.
00:38:11
I don't know what Culver.
00:38:12
I don't like to be honest.
00:38:16
What I've seen, I don't watch much.
00:38:19
That's my thing.
00:38:20
Like if you look at the number, I mean junk over is the first year Fine.
00:38:24
But like you have these two wings in a Koji a Kogi and in Culver who high energy defenders.
00:38:30
I mean they can't shoot as a team like until those two must have a makeover after the trade.
00:38:35
That line they take, they were like I said, I don't think I said this year, but they were the top three and three point attempts in the bottom three and actual conversion.
00:38:42
So, like you showed him and that's great, but they're not going within the past few.
00:38:46
Pusher is towns, which is amazing in terms of the package that he has offensively, who in your big manager best shooter on a team that primarily plays through the perimeter guys when you're not going through towns? Yikes, defensively, Uh, and let's not even mention him that your two best players they just what they are, they're not defensive players has gotten better in that way.
00:39:08
But deal is not gonna do it and cats inconsistent.
00:39:11
I'll get out on that end, so I don't see it that way.
00:39:15
You have to run through like five or six teams like that are going to be a lot for the next two years.
00:39:20
So you're thinking that the world in a gun battle between seven and 10 that's that's a slow, little marginal air. Be trying make the playoffs.
00:39:29
Seven.
00:39:31
Exactly you college kids, he put the Grizzlies.
00:39:33
Tim was already looking out.
00:39:35
That's what I was saying.
00:39:36
Like all his face, it's easy to sell you the temples were not looking.
00:39:40
Now you like.
00:39:41
Okay, so if the outscoring teams you go score some teams, you're going on for the Lakers.
00:39:48
I mean, it's going t o know that's yet.
00:39:52
So where is the Hornets? I don't see that was like their their their mediocre.
00:39:58
Like they just aren't unless any player, unless they all take Devante Graham upgrades.
00:40:04
They're all just lie argument.
00:40:06
They all just like, yeah, And then I forgot the team.
00:40:11
I mentioned the Pistons again.
00:40:12
I don't know what to do with the Pistons.
00:40:13
Do they on legs come back healthy and bringing you the way you got one more year on his contract or two, I think.
00:40:24
Yeah, yeah.
00:40:25
Taking out another year at least yet, because Lake still got like, he's what, 32 33. Something like that.
00:40:33
31 31.
00:40:35
Like he still like he's got some injury, you know, you still put him on a team that can use them, Uh, like better than and he had a big place.
00:40:48
He has a player option in 2122.
00:40:52
He's got at least one more one more year, Um, County.
00:40:56
So I don't see I No team was like, they tracked him for first on picking and the teams like now, Boss, we paid you in that.
00:41:10
Yeah, that's thing.
00:41:12
That's because his contract so suspected.
00:41:15
Oh, get that player options like 30 new yes, Clippers.
00:41:24
But our Yeah, I don't know, because I just I think through disabilities like just, uh, just rebuild, like just blow it all up.
00:41:32
Get start from scratch to you can't build around a 31 year old break Bleeker's It just doesn't now, especially when you can achieve in the misleading again.
00:41:43
And it's time for fortunate.
00:41:45
But it is what it is.
00:41:47
And like he's been there for, like, us to season season, having something like and they haven't made the playoffs.
00:41:53
You obviously haven't worked out yet.
00:41:56
You free up some space.
00:42:01
Well, this is a problem.
00:42:02
Works the Hornets.
00:42:06
I mean, decent.
00:42:08
They got they got a young team. Germany.
00:42:11
Uh, very, uh, I just don't like, but I don't see them.
00:42:17
I don't see what they're doing that's yet, But the luxury day out of being on things where you could be So I mean you absolutely, you just get in there.
00:42:30
But like you're in that.
00:42:32
Like you're in that tough zone where you're not gonna be getting any Martin picks and your union bounce pressure.
00:42:38
And over the last year, it was like I just haven't seen them.
00:42:42
What they've been trying to do, you make don't terrors.
00:42:45
You're a bunch of money.
00:42:46
They find a sneaky guy.
00:42:48
Defonseca, Ram.
00:42:49
They got Miles Bridges who can be exciting.
00:42:52
But what does he become? Leak Monk is probably more like a six man, you know, this straight score type of guy, Cody Zeller Kind of Bloods hose that they had beyond Bo one of big contact points like I just I just didn't even see.
00:43:12
I don't see what they're doing.
00:43:16
They got Malik, by the way, chemist.
00:43:21
And now the rotation.
00:43:22
He's played a bit.
00:43:23
He just But he's been enough. The doghouse.
00:43:25
Especially while Dwayne Bacon was out trusting.
00:43:27
I watched Ah bunch of born again.
00:43:28
Yes, I saw I saw Monk up in there, but I see what you're saying.
00:43:32
Yeah, Atlanta, Right.
00:43:35
Like you just got back into Yeah, he every state he was he Eliza thing, He was having his shooting numbers or just raw, but he had a couple of stretches where he looks good this year or not last really good.
00:43:48
I mean, like, Okay, you look adequate.
00:43:50
Like he many came in the first year.
00:43:53
I don't think he's going to justify his drive spot.
00:43:55
He just is it, But a solid He's abject. 10 3 and three.
00:44:00
Is there like six mankind? Yeah.
00:44:02
Yeah, like a poor man's Jordan Clarkson.
00:44:04
This high C Yeah.
00:44:06
I think that when you have that and what well, can sit in the chance of a really good point.
00:44:18
It's guard heavy.
00:44:19
I had contracts and it's like, um just kind of like the guards are great.
00:44:25
Did people think if they were exactly exactly so? And when the sad thing is But the between a rosier and rosier Anna Graham, they weren't.
00:44:36
I mean, if they trust you like you could say devante and you wouldn't be wrong Proven anything wants 25 already rosier 26 upside.
00:44:48
I mean, I don't want to say when DeVante exploded this season, but I don't see another explosion next season.
00:44:53
You got as good as they were individually this season.
00:44:57
The courts were in the bottom in offense efficiency, an offense in general, it was terrible to watch at times.
00:45:03
And that's what So many guards.
00:45:04
You have so many potential offensive initiators.
00:45:07
And yet you suck at offense.
00:45:10
Yeah, you know, like they got They got guys.
00:45:13
The only only, like, bright spot I could see you can package Devante are carriers year.
00:45:21
And, like with some of the other clothes you have and try and get something even then like, whose we're gonna get, like in terms of a lot of these guys are not on your contract.
00:45:33
So it's gonna be, like, a one year kind of thing.
00:45:35
Where, where they're getting my not in sun back.
00:45:38
So they're in a shooting situation, Not a city is big pistons just cause this is really got nothing but home.
00:45:51
Yeah, that's true.
00:45:54
The pistons are The Pistons are They're just Yeah, they're just rough.
00:45:59
Yeah.
00:46:00
Huh.
00:46:01
Yeah.
00:46:02
Lets besides, so besides the warriors, because I think that, you know, here they're definitely the best on the bubble or outside of the team.
00:46:11
Who do you think because I'm looking at these teams and I'm not seeing like I'm not I don't expect the bulls to be much better.
00:46:22
The way I e get mellow, but still, they're not that good.
00:46:26
Pensions me.
00:46:27
Talk about the Hawks.
00:46:29
Hawks is a team that I would always have.
00:46:31
They got these young back in potentially do something.
00:46:36
Got quarter trade, Kim reddish, uh, Helena.
00:46:41
Um uh, so they got they got three or four young guys that, you know, maybe, especially being in the east where you could potentially see some Jacob hopefully get a free agent or something for calves and garbage.
00:46:56
I come into the west and I see the timber wasn't Timberwolves.
00:47:02
Obviously, we talked about that.
00:47:04
They haven't meet some sort of path.
00:47:05
Obviously, we're gonna be back in contention next year, so I'm obviously of course, I e I feel like the like, the West.
00:47:18
I think next year is going to be really fun to watch.
00:47:21
Says that there's gonna be 14 teams out of the 15.
00:47:25
There might be 15 teams that are all the whole Western Conference is at least competitive enough to make a lot of the playoffs.
00:47:33
You load on line.
00:47:35
Yeah, I'm just I'm just looking at not even like I'm looking 9 to 15.
00:47:40
We got the blazers have likings Kings Spurs Suns team was worried.
00:47:46
That's what I mean.
00:47:47
Like, I don't see the Wolves with a Z, right? Get that Rightfully.
00:47:50
They lost about 18 heading up to the stoppage, but they were playing way better.
00:47:55
You know, actually, James Johnston.
00:47:56
Ownership, ownership, Putting, not ownership, not Sarver, but the front office putting clears on Devin Booker that fit better, you know, Boom.
00:48:04
And then I'd be underage and suspension.
00:48:07
That must have one good there, one solid point guard, like I'd like Rubio, but for like for right now, you face.
00:48:13
But they're one like they won a trip point guard away from making exactly that king.
00:48:20
That's almost like, Okay, then, you nice pelicans places.
00:48:26
That's all I'm saying is like saying and how we don't fit the temple is in there.
00:48:33
We're almost to the That's why it's more interesting when you think about the situation like okay, team, but they last the top 10 in the West.
00:48:45
In my mind, isn't that while you got 15 teams that are all poised to be solid in the sense that you can name anyone in the western part of the greater injury gap and with the offseason way is going to be more than likely.
00:48:59
These rosters are gonna come back intact next season, except with Warriors who gain addition by the subtraction they have this season.
00:49:06
So put them in another team, you know, I mean the East, you write like the Bulls.
00:49:13
They have.
00:49:14
Some players have something that could do, but they kind of stuck.
00:49:16
The Hornets are kind of stuck.
00:49:18
I still think they have a better chance of making it over the Wolves in the West.
00:49:22
Just because it's not like like the Hornets or the or the Bulls are like, Okay, let's say the Pacers drop out.
00:49:28
Let's say Victor Oladipo's traded or is injured again and they fall down Well, then the horns could just toggle up with staff.
00:49:33
Whatever right you would need, like three teams in the West to just totally cave in for me to really go all the rooms, they got a shot.
00:49:46
I don't know, he said.
00:49:48
Warriors being fringe playoff way, at least Warriors for And we cannot get the world's only had that many games, but I'm saying they're ceiling on that offensively.
00:50:00
Great.
00:50:01
I'm still not picking them over like 78 different teams, you know? I mean, like, that's good.
00:50:05
Like you for everything.
00:50:08
You could make the same argument for literally every single team in the West that, like, I could say, the pelicans don't have a healthy team until, like, I've got back.
00:50:16
And then they thought Bones, um, the blazers were Nurkic.
00:50:20
Turns out for a while now he's back like everybody was going through.
00:50:24
Um, like everybody's going through, like, that shortened stuff where they weren't able to reach their full potential with just what makes this, like, restart so dope, because the terms of team chemistry or, like, nobody's been playing together.
00:50:36
So it's your starting fresh at first town's gonna carry you.
00:50:39
But at the end of day, you ever play together the quickest, Which is why I mean, you have the Lakers didn't have the markets comes all year, you know, I would have been, you know, I mean, like, come on, now, let's be real about this, like you got Well, it's No, it's so hard to just be like, you know, this one team didn't, like, obviously.
00:51:03
Yeah, you guys got entirely new like half of you to with the t wolves but find give him given entire season.
00:51:09
Do you really think that they still make the top? I don't think that that's they got.
00:51:19
They got a lot of scope and potential like they like if they did make it to the top.
00:51:24
But I wouldn't be like like they got a solid team.
00:51:29
Got a couple of pieces they need to put around.
00:51:30
But I don't see him being top 10 or 11 in the West next season.
00:51:36
Nope.
00:51:37
And the looks.
00:51:38
But, you know, crazy competitive about it.
00:51:41
And so, um, not to interrupt their changing too much.
00:51:49
You still talk about trash Teams? Don't know if you saw the randomizer trade that I just did.
00:51:55
E.
00:51:56
I saw you can in the comments I was talking with Cam about, you know, about the guard heavy horn.
00:52:03
And suddenly, let's just send three guards from the to the Knicks for three big from the Hornets and I went to a randomizer.
00:52:10
It's put the rosters in and red meat selected three.
00:52:14
And here's what came out the next, and Bobby Portis, Mr Robinson and Kevin Knox in the Hornets for Joe Chili, delaying Bacon and Caleb Martin I'll get to you.
00:52:26
I haven't heard of half those dudes on the Katie.
00:52:30
Love is a solid defender doing.
00:52:33
Bacon's been out of the rotation.
00:52:36
Uh, not whole Jiri.
00:52:37
I never heard that.
00:52:38
Got you not have a lot of run, Mr Robinson.
00:52:42
Come on.
00:52:43
You know they're not giving up for anyone.
00:52:44
The hornets side Bobby Portis.
00:52:46
Yeah, I guess it could be have.
00:52:48
And Kevin Knox.
00:52:49
Possibly I get what you mean.
00:52:51
I mean, it was really right about a little wins.
00:53:02
I mean, there's no where the next go for that.
00:53:05
That's a bold, but still, I never look.
00:53:09
I am such a huge I'm my A huge Mitchell Robinson fan.
00:53:16
And if I'm the next, I hold on to him in his lunch box like he's not ever going to come like top option in.
00:53:28
Yeah, absolutely.
00:53:29
He's not gonna be like top box office of around 10.
00:53:31
Put like he's a player you can have on a winning team.
00:53:36
Even if the dates modern Gay.
00:53:39
He's the guy that he's a guy, that he would be one of those difference makers in a playoff on a playoff team like Adam right now, like the dude can rebound and defend, Um, can jump like you Like that's that's just the kind of you gonna you if I could get Natural Robinson alongside their exact since junior, uh, never happened saying, I believe not many people do.
00:54:19
You gotta be traded and after.
00:54:21
No, never, never, ever has Mr Robinson song life.
00:54:27
I mean, that's not that.
00:54:31
I say in the sense that you gotta move.
00:54:39
I would favor you read Ignace breast decades from Michigan, I think.
00:55:00
Oh, that one do for the knicks.
00:55:01
The acres shooting some early.
00:55:03
Yeah. Him.
00:55:04
Yeah.
00:55:05
Yeah.
00:55:09
I, uh Let's listen in this on one.
00:55:12
Good subject matter, it's something good for the what you got.
00:55:23
Alright.
00:55:24
Somebody in the chat drop was one fired thing to trade us.
00:55:26
T end us out.
00:55:29
Anybody get, we'll see if we can get Logan job.
00:55:35
Something that somebody anybody.
00:55:38
I swear about the books we're in time. I know.
00:55:43
But today Oh, come on.
00:55:47
Yeah, like you.
00:55:52
Money making the cab. Okay.
00:55:54
Okay. Okay.
00:55:55
Dancing in the cab's I like the cabs of you who's on the town now.
00:56:02
We got into the cab.
00:56:03
Obviously, I like the calves, and I kind of like some of their reasons they have in place.
00:56:09
They still got away Two ways to go, in my opinion.
00:56:13
But I like whether it is Tatum, a future VP.
00:56:16
Yes, yes, yes.
00:56:25
Signed before Kate.
00:56:27
Embeth say that one word after the baby is going before Tatum dust.
00:56:36
Now with your first That's that's I don't know, because not 35 received more.
00:56:48
Well, a lot.
00:56:53
I would let you out.
00:56:57
Oh, my bad.
00:56:58
I heard my going on.
00:57:00
Take it. I'm actually glad Didn't share going.
00:57:04
So speaking of ah, Kate, um weaker four.
00:57:10
Drop their competencies Fall forwards And he was number five.
00:57:13
Agree or disagree who was at a level I can't answer the question one.
00:57:22
Her wise number one.
00:57:23
Lebron's number two.
00:57:24
But Jimmy Butler's three Luca is four.
00:57:27
Chris Middleton is five late.
00:57:28
Notice the wrong list.
00:57:33
Oh, I just had to lose croupier Anyway, it was like Tatum five Middleton.
00:57:42
I wanna say butler Bronco y I confirmed that here to say I don't like it over about like you take away and take them off color.
00:57:56
Call Kanye for easy.
00:58:00
If I don't have a listen, it was ah, it was LeBron Kawai.
00:58:06
So I got that backwards slightly. Middleton.
00:58:09
Tatum.
00:58:11
I feel now I'm solid out.
00:58:16
10.
00:58:17
Nelson Solid.
00:58:19
You know who's the Who's after? Who's out there.
00:58:24
So the Tops enlisted goes after taking You.
00:58:27
Got Ingram Hayward to Rosen.
00:58:29
Who will Barton and Bosnian Bogdanovich.
00:58:36
I mean, I don't know.
00:58:38
Small movements that apparently no, I also came weakening and we not Can we not do the whole? The honest is M V P.
00:58:47
This year I've watched enough here.
00:58:50
Bones from Johannes Watch over Marquis basketball game against Lakers.
00:58:54
I've watched the honest enough.
00:58:56
I'm sticking with LeBron.
00:58:58
Okay, that's all I'm saying.
00:59:03
I don't know.
00:59:04
You don't know? Okay, let me find it again.
00:59:14
My list of top.
00:59:15
Let me go back through the double.
00:59:17
Check Logan's outcome for me.
00:59:20
Dude, you guys are all over the bucks.
00:59:22
The I even watch Lakers games, OK? Do we not see LeBron's greatness? All right, That's the right thing in your life.
00:59:32
The honest doing now I'm just saying Giuliana is done.
00:59:35
School and everything.
00:59:36
Look, he has the best team, the best record.
00:59:37
Whatever.
00:59:38
Come on, think about it all.
00:59:40
Move your bias, Lawyer.
00:59:41
You're prepared all the book said.
00:59:47
That's how every piece have been selected the last few years, the best player on the best.
00:59:52
So I now now, but friends going to say it's honest, and if he gets voted, I'm not going to I'm not gonna agree.
00:59:58
It shouldn't matter, Eric, but it does.
01:00:01
It shouldn't matter.
01:00:02
But it does okay, if it's the narrative and the narrative is a big thing.
01:00:07
I listen at a free honest when he has stuff.
01:00:12
The started narratives, he shot easily from it, the whole of the whole harden thing.
01:00:17
That wasn't a thing, because John has walked it back the whole on the king around.
01:00:21
Think of Laban that Yonas walked back.
01:00:24
I mean, come on.
01:00:27
I'll give these a try, but definitely picked up that.
01:00:32
But I I could see honestly, I could see.
01:00:39
I could see either.
01:00:40
LeBron are.
01:00:43
He is very honest.
01:00:47
Uh, the honest had the best record, but LeBron also I feel like with the team around him, did more.
01:00:54
I know you had a d, but after that, the bucks at the box after the house, no matter how you're thinking if you go by Yon is having a good team guys fault than 2017.
01:01:13
Russell Westbrook team wasn't that good, but oh, because his team was like You could pick and married a free one who is only 23.
01:01:20
He's 35.
01:01:21
His team was 47 35 the scene with 50 and 15.
01:01:25
We could do this all day, you know.
01:01:27
I mean hard Versi honest last year.
01:01:29
Hard to shoot one.
01:01:30
In my opinion last year, all the stuff he did, but the honest one NBP that you don't like, it doesn't.
01:01:36
Let's stop acting like there's like a strict set of laws for how the MVPs takes.
01:01:40
Now, that is a big year by year by year, but the same time I think it's off things in my offseason.
01:01:45
I feel like they pick M V p in the off season, and they just speak into existence.
01:01:50
John, it was, has been developing great and all of a sudden boom offseason happen, Iliana.
01:01:54
So Johansson, once that ball started going harden through some tremendous performances last year.
01:01:59
I don't even like the mayor puts him.
01:02:01
Two tremendous performances last season didn't even really have a chance because the goddess train was up and rolling.
01:02:10
I'm just saying if you think the regular season and playoffs in the context are you probably won't even be in the conversation after a certain point out of this, as I'm saying, Westbrook, defend that one till I'm blue in the face because yes, it was only for the triple double, but I don't see anyone else doing that.
01:02:31
I see you, my man, You got a team out was off great for the playoffs.
01:02:35
But that was what was the NDP for 2017 Russell Westbrook ornaments.
01:02:40
If that M v P now you know what I mean.
01:02:43
Announcement in yachts and LeBron both for good players.
01:02:45
Vote for Gary.
01:02:46
Honest is the better player or more dominant player on the detained.
01:02:49
So should be hit on LeBron because the bucks beeper.
01:02:54
God, I don't understand.
01:02:56
You know what I mean? I'm just saying, like a lot of it is, I don't know that Mr Part The Bucks are on pace to hit 70 games before they didn't win seven games.
01:03:04
There is over OK, 70 getting their rakers were on pace to win 82 games before they lost their first game.
01:03:13
Oh, my God I like like that.
01:03:16
You go way once every three.
01:03:19
So you know, I mean, it's Seth Curry.
01:03:23
2020 16.
01:03:24
They got, they got, they talk.
01:03:25
That's great.
01:03:26
I'm not saying winds don't matter.
01:03:27
I'm just saying, like, let's let's let's not just like oh, that's the end all be all because we know it's not so at the end of day I'm saying all that to say that, yes, I'm actually for you, honest living and BP.
01:03:39
But I'm not going to make him a cake walk because everyone saying it's cakewalk because like, Yeah, I guess it is.
01:03:44
But the same time is there's an argument to be out.
01:03:46
I mean, I just put one of just now you know what I mean.
01:03:49
It's because I saw something.
01:03:52
There's I think LeBron we've been saying Janette since October.
01:03:59
You could probably find you could probably find people saying Yonas for M V P From when the season first started.
01:04:04
Like I wrote like the like, the end of every race is always determined in the 1st 3 weeks and seen and then from there is how you elevate that.
01:04:16
From that template, LeBron and yonder start to ones that would probably have the best case when and honestly, I I would You can't go wrong.
01:04:29
I mean, my my my question would be I want to see the last M v p.
01:04:33
That wasn't like, brought up and trump it up in the first months of the season.
01:04:37
That didn't hold out the rest of the way.
01:04:39
I mean, like, really with Westbrook was there.
01:04:43
Westbrook worked there.
01:04:44
What's from my bin? Last toughest one? Because you had Westbrook.
01:04:47
You had Kawai.
01:04:48
You had Harden.
01:04:49
You have LeBron and I was, like, 20.
01:04:53
That was step one.
01:04:54
Step 1 2015 He came out of like the warrior.
01:04:57
But Harden was in the numbers in the sense that, like the way you look at it, but more likely 2015 2016.
01:05:07
No contest, Steph.
01:05:08
2017 Russell.
01:05:10
Individual statistics. LeBron.
01:05:12
I'm sure you know the words of that.
01:05:13
LeBron Kawai.
01:05:14
Hard boom. 2018.
01:05:17
Done. Easy.
01:05:18
You know, it was had to be our and after all that, then 2019 that had to be honest. 2020.
01:05:24
It asked to be honest, like after 2017 I don't really think we've had Oh, it could be one of the other one.
01:05:30
Name gets thrown out.
01:05:31
They have some solid months, everyone just behind that name.
01:05:34
And that is what it's going to be.
01:05:36
And then you have a phone booth 17 with that.
01:05:40
Hard to that hard rest debate was So I had a couple moments, remember, we made a big deal, collides back to back games.
01:05:47
Or if we made a big joke wise, he had a solid season.
01:05:49
Let's not forget it.
01:05:50
He had to solve it.
01:05:51
The Heat was leading his first thing that had no business, winning 20 games.
01:05:54
They did.
01:05:55
But there was that one game against the Rockets we had that block on.
01:05:58
He had a big three and then the block on art, and you're like, Oh my God, that's the NDP play right there.
01:06:05
Wow, you have boil it down to one sequence in one game like this is amazing.
01:06:12
It's even took Russell toe in the three point or triple double game against Denver to solidify it because, you know, that's what I personally think, that they should take the media away from voting all of your stuff and give it to the coaches or not even the players. Just culture.
01:06:28
You're at least gonna get somewhat of a non biased answer our boat in the sense that the other guys that are going through the grind like media people, they're going to be pushing whatever narrative they want.
01:06:40
Yeah.
01:06:41
So, having people like Rachel Nichols, Michelle beautiful boating on any piece because that's what their talk shows are all for, Like, they're gonna be milking those boys.
01:06:54
Yeah, especially.
01:06:56
I mean, maybe one thing if it was just a media, but like we'd be on Twitter, I'm sure all of us, when it's a chance of my time on Twitter and you see them top on the narratives as well.
01:07:03
So I don't think it's just like when I have time ball minds what I expect Fans do like fans.
01:07:12
Obviously, we're gonna be speculating who's about a year every year who should be this way.
01:07:17
We don't get a vote like we're not the ones voting on it.
01:07:20
When the people that are voting on it are the ones like oh, that should be They're just pulling out stuff that we're talking about and using that combo, whatever narratives they have and they're the ones that are voting like that's that's just yeah, yes, I mean, you know, then you have those someone to take it from me on it.
01:07:37
So that means that public favor has to go from the honest.
01:07:40
You have to drop his points a game iota visits.
01:07:43
You have to be more stack that people started looking on.
01:07:45
It's like, Oh, well, you're good with your team is good, like like that's what I mean.
01:07:48
It's not until someone takes away from its until the narrative ships from him or he falls on the Earth.
01:07:53
Play life because last I checked, LeBron's game has been pretty much consistent for the past 10 years.
01:07:58
But the narrative has not been on the side for most of those 10 years.
01:08:01
The same.
01:08:02
You have different storylines and leaving Miami and going to Cleveland.
01:08:05
I'm coming back.
01:08:07
Same thing someone take.
01:08:09
I mean, you could say Steph Curry took it away from LeBron.
01:08:11
LeBron was still another 27 16.
01:08:13
He was still in the 2017 it was in last year, but I'm just saying if we're gonna go by my most valuable player, I don't like the whole he has to get taken away from that because that insinuates that it's an option on the table we're gonna get.
01:08:26
It's not and and into insinuate that, to me is ludicrous because we know this is four or five players all the time.
01:08:34
No one's making DEMAR DeRozan older.
01:08:36
Marta Rosa M V P.
01:08:37
When he had his three point shot two years ago, you know, he was on a good team in the East.
01:08:41
He was playing like a dominant player.
01:08:42
He had improved his game.
01:08:44
That's three check marks, right of the arbitrary and the secrets we have.
01:08:48
Nobody could say, you know that you know what I mean.
01:08:52
The game Ever get into that situation? Do.
01:08:57
But it's never been the conversation.
01:08:58
I mean, I mean, I mean this saying, like, took the load management everything.
01:09:07
He's on a good team.
01:09:08
He's playing well.
01:09:09
He's improved its Maybe I'm a mitt cynical, but I just don't have no one.
01:09:14
Give me argument.
01:09:15
That makes me believe it's anything more than just what that is, which is about four or five people.
01:09:19
You peg it early, and then if they continue with a moderately successful level of play, then we have no reason to quote unquote take it away from him.
01:09:28
Yeah, I know that you have won and you make a very about that.
01:09:32
I mean, that's just the way work is like you started there. It's early.
01:09:35
And even if the player just place decently as those noble effect and no one was willing to think outside the box, no one's willing to think like, oh, how you like, you know, let like Mike.
01:09:47
In my opinion, last year in Toronto, Oh, might have been caused this chance.
01:09:52
One M v p.
01:09:53
But he's never gonna win that because of various reasons.
01:09:56
He's never gonna have that narrative behind him.
01:09:58
He had an incredible year that we have to the finals.
01:10:01
But like he was never truly seen as a viable candidate.
01:10:06
I don't know who I ever was considered a top five candidates for MTV is not only thing that will be like in it.
01:10:19
Honestly, ridiculous.
01:10:21
Yeah.
01:10:22
I mean, I really like the Lucas and the trade young and starting to get in there like from next year, and you're gonna have people like you.
01:10:35
And then I think table believe when you start talking about, like legacies for these guys.
01:10:40
Like as we get there way.
01:10:42
Use the rap on Kobe going again One.
01:10:44
But you mean Rob 3 to 3 times.
01:10:47
She should have wanted out of the six.
01:10:49
He got to have the name of the proposed expulsion one.
01:10:52
Because now we're now the narrative.
01:10:54
Have to come out because the narratives took first over the play.
01:10:57
Then you look back and you're like, Oh, well, you feel looking back.
01:11:00
He probably should have won it for the way he actually played within Adams on Steam National.
01:11:03
Now we'll give him this one.
01:11:05
Chris Paul, He ain't never went in one.
01:11:07
When that was his best chance to win when he was deservedly in my pain the M V p of the show, they seize it.
01:11:12
Look cool. We got the legacy of B p.
01:11:14
And then you're right. Cool.
01:11:15
Let's say, quite three years from now he'll be aged 32 is averaging 25 5 and five.
01:11:22
But John is averaging 28 eight and seven and Troy Young is in the mix now a Lucas ascending whatever.
01:11:30
And they all have reasonable records.
01:11:33
If you can't use the local wise 32 a drug or do you want to use? We're going to wait till the narrative comes out on.
01:11:38
Well, guess what? Trade.
01:11:40
Making his teammates better.
01:11:41
Luke Adoption is to continue to prove every year you honest has been a beast for four consecutive seasons.
01:11:47
First desire on in there? Yeah, exactly.
01:11:50
Exactly.
01:11:51
That's going to say, And then they're gonna come out with, You know, Yang is the first player to shoot 26% from three and 69% free throw line, but averaged 30 points and 12 rebounds of 56 on Tuesday.
01:12:01
But the Milwaukee Bucks on Christmas against the Lakers like like Come on, come on.
01:12:07
Okay, you know, it's gonna have a mobile where you like.
01:12:12
Uh, it's just so funny.
01:12:16
I was so funny.
01:12:17
You say that because, like when I was growing up, my dad said that exact same stuff like he used to say exactly what you're saying.
01:12:23
Like they pull of the grand, the most specific staff you confined.
01:12:27
And every time I see that, a graphic about it's not like Larry Bird, Magic Johnson and Daddy is young.
01:12:32
You know, I think about all the time.
01:12:35
It was like he said that his whole like my entire life for my destiny, and I always thought like, Oh, you're just Oh, here's being cynical.
01:12:43
But like as I've gotten older, like I get like, I'm just like it's ridiculous what they do to try to put these people on pedestals that they're already on And no one's threatening to take them off.
01:12:54
Like, even know.
01:12:57
Nobody's going to deny that Johannes is a great player, probably a face of the lead coming up.
01:13:02
Nobody's getting out that LeBron James is doing things a 35 we've never seen.
01:13:05
Like all of these things can be true.
01:13:06
And at the same time.
01:13:08
And we can still say anyone Luca's interview you, Tracy.
01:13:12
They can all coated just on different pedestals in the lead.
01:13:15
Yeah, I, like just let him play like the then you have.
01:13:23
You can have debates for, like 78 different guys that are every piece.
01:13:27
How do you decide which I feel like when you have the best guy on the best team, that putting up numbers? That's the easiest template to kind of force that narrative, in the sense that most valuable player because there's there's gonna be like there's gonna be, like, 10 guys that are having Havenaar commit to.
01:13:47
So without these narratives, how do you decide that? Also, we're going by the best record.
01:13:55
I mean, let's say let's say we continue gone.
01:13:56
So I was gonna be a four time baby because the Bucks win 60 plus games in the East, you know, being or LeBron when he was with the Cavs, he would have been a six time M v p.
01:14:08
You know, playing with Cleveland.
01:14:09
Best team in the East.
01:14:10
You know, I'm saying, like in terms of it, that's where I get the fluctuation.
01:14:14
But I'm with you on that and I'm with Bailey in the same vein.
01:14:17
I can't wait.
01:14:18
There's gonna be something crazy.
01:14:19
I can't wait till it's gonna be like the job for society race.
01:14:22
And they're gonna give the M V p j No, no, because build it to more rants.
01:14:31
Impact on the floor.
01:14:33
We're gonna start attributing teammates individual improvements to the MVP's because they would not be doing their own internal improvement on their game without the presence of four gravity or LeBron's passing mastery or I don't even know what you don t like.
01:14:49
I feel like it's going to go that way.
01:14:51
It's gonna go that way.
01:14:52
Like if someone's the most improved player.
01:14:54
Well, then he hasn't played with MPP because how else could he possibly get better without this greatness next to him? Insert player? Exactly.
01:15:08
I don't disagree with anything.
01:15:21
I gotta find both, All right.
01:15:24
They just let all of our writers of the lead boat we should be the only needed way.
01:15:32
Got new ones conversation the baby? Yes.
01:15:36
I mean, imagine if God just said, Well, imagine God just said Clay Thompson should be M V P next year.
01:15:41
And then Bailey's like, Yeah, and I'm like, You know what? Yeah, and then and then we just you being here.
01:15:48
He just came back from a serious injury.
01:15:49
The Warriors are markedly improved like he averaged.
01:15:52
Like you, there's three storyline that's ahead just on him, stepping on the floor under such a devastating injury.
01:15:57
Last year's finals.
01:15:58
To be able to come back on the floor and put the right at age 29 with Order team and Steph Curry and all these young guys and being such a mentor and they're like 57 25 Tick tick boom NDP.
01:16:15
I'll just say That's my long game shoots 38% from three next year.
01:16:21
That's crazy homes.
01:16:22
That way we can even say 35 36.
01:16:25
He's automatically MPP next year.
01:16:27
I'm putting it in John the status That'll be the narrative.
01:16:30
And that way you just get better.
01:16:36
And very finally, at a three point shot.
01:16:37
Now he's unstoppable.
01:16:39
Forget Chris Milton being a great side piece by piece.
01:16:50
Looks forget.
01:16:53
There's welcome being a great psychic.
01:16:54
Forget the supporting cast.
01:16:56
Being a strong as they are.
01:16:57
Forget young players I don't even know Pack continent Still No, um he is, but not Dante de Vincenzo.
01:17:03
Other guys stepping up, stepping up and being great, Great, great in their own development.
01:17:09
We're gonna put on there because e he's just just so awesome, you know? I mean, when I'm gonna look out of the players in terms of how great Down comparison Dan could be leaving, the Timberwolves are number Timberwolves, but the blaze is the number two seed in the West next year.
01:17:21
That's important, right? Especially concerning out stack the letter B, but best player besting improvement like that's how it feels.
01:17:29
I'm not saying is gonna happen, but that's how it feels, you know? I don't know.
01:17:39
I lose weight.
01:17:43
This is a man I look forward to.
01:17:47
I tell you what.
01:17:49
Next Wednesday, next Wednesday.
01:17:52
Let's let's all formulate what makes it on your feet.
01:17:58
What May I ate on key? I'm gonna have me pulling back numbers.
01:18:08
You got pulling back.
01:18:09
NBP snubs.
01:18:11
I got three on the top of my head right now.
01:18:13
I get out, I will sketch you that stream tonight.
01:18:19
That'll be.
01:18:20
That'll be next Wednesday's league.
01:18:21
What makes that big boom I'll go into I e o.
01:18:30
I got Charles Barkley 1990.
01:18:31
I got shocked without do. Let's do it.
01:18:38
I say less like that.
01:18:40
That could be our next week.
01:18:41
We found it right here and now.
01:18:47
Yeah, about two.
01:18:54
Oh, my God.
01:18:55
That would be a full extra.
01:18:56
I got the solicitor.
01:18:57
Now, when I do that, any of these pieces at that piece that cut under most lighting beside piece you ready up? You want I was listed.
01:19:19
Just tone it down again to all our viewers.
01:19:22
Thanks for coming out and sticking with us.
01:19:24
This was, uh so it's quite the discussion when all around the place, we didn't really have a set plan, as we normally do.
01:19:32
Um, about Kendall.
01:19:36
Kendall Marshall? Yeah.
01:19:37
Never forget, uh, major respect.
01:19:41
My guy could stay, but is a self coming out.
01:19:48
Like I said at the beginning, if you want to hear, were from the Leeds forced media.
01:19:52
We have these sports cats Monday, Wednesday, and Fridays every week.
01:19:56
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You can keep up to date with us from there.
01:20:02
We, uh, kind of where General sports her MBA.
01:20:06
Sorry.
01:20:07
Cover site with branches covering what? We have to 16 teams.
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Now, with the addition of heat nets broken the halfway point, I got a draft lead bridge and we've got our main branch.
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So tuned into a fun one.
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I mean, This was just a lot of fun.
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It's always good. Lincoln with jaw.
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You know, if you guys want more of this, check it out.
01:20:48
I mean, I personally afford to it, you know, just a lot of fun.
01:20:51
You know, a lot of fun.
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Make Wednesday night school? No, the week.
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