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Welcome to another episode of different basketball.
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Today we're joined by Brent Shook.
This is Episode eight Shadow to Kobe Bryant.
Brent actually also were number eight.
This pasture in Albany.
Brent man, welcome to the show.
So I I was watching a previous podcast and something came up like you were a Raiders famous deal with that.
Oh, I'm a huge Raiders fan.
Are you all your Kansas City fan? Hey, no.
Oh, Asian and I live 10 minutes from Arrowhead Stadium.
What's what's the deal with that? I have 21 or 21 of 22 recorders coming back.
It doesn't matter.
I don't mess with us, but we'll see.
It doesn't matter that the Raiders are gonna be great to share.
Honestly, I have no idea who's coming in there.
I couldn't tell you one thing about him.
Size Derek Carr, Jon Gruden. And that's it.
What? Um, who's your favorite player on the chiefs? If you say Mahomes.
I'm gonna show No, I go.
I mean, we got we got a cheetah.
We got a honey badger.
We've got all kinds of players on the chief.
So you're a real deal fan.
Favorite, um, I just want to tell the listeners, you know, Brent never ever makes mistakes.
I don't think I've seen you make a mistake in a game yet.
Never makes mistakes in it.
Well, except today said, you're just a later, but that's literally Moreau.
Yeah, I get hired to be a role guy because I did my role.
Well, so now the only mistake you made is is your chief's fan.
I do appreciate that.
You watch in the past.
Shows that that's That's a lot of love right there, man.
Yeah, Cornell did a great show.
Yeah, he's good.
Um, but let's let's kind of get into it a little bit.
Your combine guy.
You played in T B O for two teams.
Your combine guy, you know, combines your car starting.
Ah, get going here.
So talk a little bit about tbl combines and how those worked and how you got a contractor.
Those Well um, you know, the combines are again, You know, the main point of exposure for guys, especially with the drafts.
I believe it's in Indianapolis again.
This year s so that's gonna be the main platform for guys to get seen on the tbl.
Um, my personal experience.
Uh, well, we have to back it up for my experience on Shane.
Gatson played for Polo Per Wolpert.
Back in the Ackman, The Glory CD a days, Um and then he went under the Golden State Warriors.
I played against him in in Africa and I just work from in China.
But he connected me with Paul Wilbert.
So I came to the city and wanted to play in my local team.
Um, that coach that year wasn't interested for whatever reason.
And that's just the nature of the business And what it was so thrust. Sister Galaxy.
And now the Yakima Sun Kings were a team you know, was a team.
Um, you know, two years ago wouldn't This year, I think I may may come back.
They may not, but let's talk a little bit about those guys that you play without their in Yakima.
Tyler Thornton, who was the Dew point guard? Rinaldo Major, who was the all time leading scorer in the league? Um, Jackson Trap, who you know, is having a really good career in Germany.
You What did you learn from those guys? And how was that experience? Yeah.
So if we're gonna go down the list on all the great players that are on that roster, we're gonna tow list the entire roster.
I think everyone had some kind of experience, some notable experience and use a little place somewhere.
So But, you know, guys like, you know, I learned a lot from, you know, not having a great college career.
I didn't really have that experience in college like most guys do.
I didn't get to get in the D League, so that was kind of rare.
You know, a lot of my education happened, and, you know, guys like, you know that that's like Major really taught us to respect the game.
And, you know, it's a lot that I could take away from them.
No, that's awesome.
Do you have any good Yakima stories out there with those guys? Any any ah, crazy practices.
All the time I mean, Well, toe, get that off of the air.
Some of that's not really PG, but, like in practice says, You know, we're always for the deadly.
Noted culture is every day.
It was practicing to be a champion, so you know, those expectations were really high.
And it just got heated a lot of time.
No, that's that's Ah, when When When you get sick competitors in the gym, you know, that's what it's gotta be Your You're pretty laid back, guy.
I'm pretty laid back to, but But you got some fire underneath you.
And, you know, like we talked right before we came on their, um you're a different, different person, you know, when you play on the floor, talk about that competitiveness, you know where where that comes from.
You know there's something primal about or, you know, something tribal.
And, uh, you know, just striving and competing and battling with, you know, with your tribe.
It's like in its units, primal.
So I think there's something in sport that we can all relate to, and, you know, guys that really dive into it and have got to play sports professionally, you know, understand, that, um, that connection that you can take away and you build relationships that way.
Now let's talk a little bit about you.
Played for Albany this past year.
He averaged about 11 points, 5.8 rebounds.
You shot 48% for the three point line, which is which is really good.
Um, you know, how was that experience? Like, obviously, it's a legendary place.
Um, a little background.
Albanese the place that Phil Jackson coach Bill Musselman, George Karl on your head coach, played for all three of those guys, you know? What was that like this past year? Yeah, I think there's something like 50 players and coaches that came through Albany.
And you know, Yakima was the same way all the championships and just to exchange with the N b A.
Just the high level of play that's come through both places, you know, it's just ah, great experience to be ableto like you said play for ah, Paul Gilbert and Derek Roland.
And you know they again provide me with education that, you know, I really value now that I'm especially now that I'm transitioning into coaching myself.
I took a lot away from both of them does.
Ah, this, dear never not have a haircut.
I always Every time I see him, he always has, like, a clean fade.
You know, he's got the crystalline with his beard.
You know, mothers, A fashion designer.
So, you know, he gets taken care of.
I didn't know his daughter's really a fashion designer.
So she came and did a show, and, you know, it was selling some product.
I think she's based out of California.
But she did come up to New York.
Wow, that's crazy.
I did not. Yeah, I really didn't know that.
You learn something every day, man.
Every single day.
Um, you know what? Tell me something that you took away from Derek.
You know, he's a really is a smart guy.
And, you know, obviously he played for all three of those coaches that I mentioned.
You know what? Something he preached every day that you're gonna take away from you, you know, take away from him and and take it into your coaching career.
Yeah, well, one thing that he really had Teoh preach on guys that year with that group of guys because we had so much talent, so much individual talent.
He had to preach that.
You know, he's he's up there in the all time scoring with them, and, um, his coach has never ran a play for him.
So is just continuity in the offense and sticking with the offense and playing hard.
And, you know, buying into the team concepts was one of the big things that he preached This year.
Everyone was out.
What was it like this year? Um, you know, obviously planning professional basketball.
You know, you don't have the college camaraderie of like, you know, you get to know these guys, you know, you're not with them all the time.
You know, What was it like with your teammates? You know, Did you enjoy? You know, the pro, you know, style.
It's because it's almost like a business.
Like you don't get to, like, hang out with these guys all the time, right? It's almost like, Okay, you know, we're here for a job that we leave, but you know, what's that relationship like in and out of you? How do you cultivate those? Mm, So especially a tvl.
You know, it's it's a shorter league eso I usually do to in a year if I can, um, T bills, Usually my winter league, but I These guys, they're in Albany already knew them from my days when I was playing in Yakima.
They always, but it's in the finals every year on Duh.
So I already had a good relationship with some of those guys, and that really gave us a head start.
You know, going into that year without money.
No, that's good, man.
What was Ah, you know, should l milling house.
I really like him.
And we, uh I'm hopefully gonna get him on the pot at some point, but he was a beast, you know I talk about is he has he won it like I mean, he I think he's like, one of the one of the better players in the league at the moment, you know? And he's got, like, this, like, bulldog mentality, you know? What is he like in practice? What is he like in everyday life? Yeah, So he is what I would call it gamer.
Um, he was actually my roommate.
Her my apartment made on Albany.
And, you know, he was like, myself just kind of laid back and, you know, did his own thing and then was toe once the lights went on.
And, you know, the whistle's blown.
He's, you know, he is all out and he can do anything.
He can play one through one through five.
You know, like with how scrappy is he can box out and rebound with anybody.
So he was just kind of a do it all a guy and, you know, culturally relied on him late in the games for the bonus and and and let him go to work.
And, you know, he, uh, he provided a lot of the time, so he's definitely a gamer.
And what do you feel like your role is? You know, obviously a career is over, but you know, each team that you played on that you feel like you had, Ah, specific role.
You know, obviously this year you were you're a guy that was filling in and doing some different things and just, you know, I don't what? It was there a play called for you at all this past year.
So my role Well, I get the Gillis backup, so I played 23 game minutes in the N c. A A.
So with that, I kind of had a lot of time.
Teoh, you know, watch and observe and reflect on my game.
And, um, I got to understand that I had to build a brand for myself.
You can't be, you know, a decent shooter and a decent pastor and a d sent this and that you have toe know what you do.
And you have to emphasize that in your training in your game so that your brand is known People know what you are and what you do.
I'm so over time I developed into again my role a za guy that gets the ball we're supposed to go, don't make a lot of something mistakes and knock it down when I when I shoot it.
So, um, that's the role that my dad and it took me places.
So I think that's an important point to bring out because, um, you know, I think that's a great, you know, think to tell pros and a great advice to give people because you can't be mediocre at everything and then expect to get a contract right like you have to be good at one or two things.
You only get one or two superpowers, right? It's quarter close to capacity.
You can really shoot.
Maybe you could really pass or you could shoot.
You play defense or you can rebound, play defense or, you know, whatever that may you get to get the ball up the floor like, why would you be in a game? And I think a lot of guys, especially younger, younger kids, you know, high school, maybe even college, you know, fail to realize that, you know, just because you're good, like, across the board.
But maybe you're just mediocre at everything, you know, But you're just really athletic, you know? You get to that next level, and it's like, you know, what exactly can you do? You know what I mean? If you're young and great at multiple things, odds are your league bound or, you know, high major D one bound.
If you're not, you really need to find you know what your skills are.
And that's gonna take you the ****hest and do the most for you.
Um, I don't I think I may have mentioned on the show before, but, like, I think, like, I mean, I got a scholarship to because I could shoot.
I mean, I may have taken, like, five dribbles total in my whole entire, you know, college career.
And I didn't play Tona Donna minutes, but that's a separate.
That's a separate issue, right? But, you know, you know what you the clay did He had all those points and, you know, that sort of my time with something, like a dribbles or something like that.
So that's let's go.
Yeah, I'm not that good, man.
I mean, I'm maybe maybe pick up all but, you know, I'm not I'm not that good, but let's let's talk a little bit about, um, you know, your college career, Uh, you know where you started.
You know where you finished.
You know how the 23 minutes were.
Then he became a pro.
So I group overseas on in the military communities.
So in the Department of Defense Dependent School system.
So I think, Well, I lived in Japan for six years and I think our high school had, you know, maybe 80 kids in it.
So you know, my class, it really small.
I was like the number four a cross country runner and the whole Pacific for the DOD school system.
So I was a better runner than a basketball player growing up.
And then I just kind of, uh, develop the jump shot over time.
But I went from the smallest school in the military communities overseas in Japan, and I moved to Ramstein, Germany, for high school.
And that was the biggest school NATO headquarters with their on base.
And, you know, it was a large schools, probably equivalents and maybe, like a 33 a or four a school in the states.
Um, so I went from being an average fishing and a small upon to average fish in a big pond and just the competition.
Really, Um, wasn't there.
I guess Maybe I was just always behind the curve and development, and I came stateside and got picked up for a junior college and too skinny, too slow.
Not strong enough.
It just wasn't skilled enough.
So I was always kind of behind the curve growing up in college and then, you know, after I graduated, I, um, went over to China. Just do business.
Wasn't even playing at that time.
And, you know, I got some opportunities and a special status that I had in Germany.
Growing up playing youth ball granted me localized status in Germany, so I played as a non American.
So that's kind of getting overseas.
That's one of the hurdles you have to cross is competing with other Americans.
There's limited spots and overseas leagues.
Depending on which lead it is, it could be one American per team to on record at the time for five on the court, Uh, like in depending on where you're playing.
So in Germany, that's one of the big hurdles is competing with other Americans.
And I had that special status.
So I got my my start playing in Germany, and I'm finally got in.
And who felt moved around from now? What legal? You in and Germany actually have a few buddies that that played over? Um, I couldn't tell you the team.
Um, you know, I know that, like like D. J. Johnson.
Um, so D j is he came over and trained with with me, Um, not with me, But I trained with them, you know, he's a pro guy.
He played in Germany.
And then, um you know, Jordan holds you planted.
I you played it.
Played in Jeremy playing that same kind of lead with D.
What league was that with? Did you play? Um, I'll get there.
D j Did he? Is he in Italy by chance? Is that the same D j? I'm pretty sure it is.
I know him from Kansas State, I think.
Uh, yeah, I think he s o DJs, actually German, so I don't think we may.
I don't think we're talking about the same one.
I think he still may be in that on that same, that same German team.
He's good, though.
We'll try it after about him.
Eso I played, I played most recently which swell, Mom, they're really famous soccer club in the May pay for their basketball club with the soccer team.
Um, right now I think they're still They're still probie.
Um, but Jackson played or Jackson Trap is nearby.
His team was near sh Well, men, their pro a And they have five Americans allowed and pro.
And his team was pretty good at it.
I think he smashed some three point records this year.
Unsurprisingly, um, I think he'll be going back there again this year as well.
Whose? That was a better shooter.
You were trapped.
I highly doubt it.
I'll give it to him.
Come on, man. He's not even gonna watch.
It's not. I'm gonna watch the show.
You gotta You gotta take some credit.
You could shoot.
I'll give it, I'll give it to him, but, uh, I cannot come back him down.
I could take him in the paint, so Oh, I sense in this talk about you got to still talk to you.
Got to send this to him and maybe have a little Ah, let's Ah, let's kind of transition a little bit, man.
Let's talk speed around here.
Okay? Okay. You go.
So you have one whole minute.
We're gonna where to get it on. This way.
You get one whole minute, okay? You can answer as many questions you can.
I got burned for, like, asking the home fries or hash browns.
And so now, Now I have to.
I took that out, so you're not gonna have to answer that one, but we're going to see how far you can get.
I think the records.
22 kind of guys.
Ready? Go three to one year ago.
Favorite music artists, Musical artists.
Florida Georgia line Favorite movie.
Ah, and pass too many favorite color blue favorite superhero.
Ah, green lantern.
Favorite hobby Hobby Camping.
Favorite song to sing Hailer Delilah.
Favorite song to listen to Taylor.
Delilah, What's your head and talent? Probably go with kayaking, Actually.
Favorite board game risk.
You have three seconds.
Favorite meal three, two Chinese.
Oh, it's not bad.
Now I'm gonna I'm gonna hate on you a little bit for ST Green Lantern as your favorite superhero.
But you Ah, Iron man all the way.
Or Batman? Maybe I must say, Iron man. Probably.
Lock in that in iron.
You know, you can't argue that.
Well, Brenneman, I really appreciate you coming on the show.
I think that was great.
Um, let's let's talk a little bit, you know, combines.
They're gonna start to get going.
You have any advice for one of the guys that are coming in? Yeah, do your homework.
Know you're coming in against know your strengths, Know how to hide your weaknesses.
And, um, you know, nowhere get ahold of you need to talk to and, um, you know, definitely come in and shape That's gonna stand out with that.
We're gonna see, um, with universities who had the cove id lag and who got that work enduring coded, you know.
So it'll be interesting to see you, Jake.
That's a good advice, man.
I just want I want to thank all the listeners that came on the show today.
As to which side of the 70 combine? Siri's start off your soon to get registered as the basketball net, looking for deceiving everybody.
I'm gonna be out there.
And I really appreciate all the support.