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00:02:58
welcomes inside the dugout, everybody.
00:03:01
I'm heroes.
00:03:02
When Riley are in term.
00:03:03
Sof, you in another interest in smaller streams.
00:03:10
So yeah.
00:03:14
So I just reading last night about this topic and like it, So I'm gonna do it again.
00:03:27
Give it another try.
00:03:29
Um, So I'll take this off and I put that up.
00:03:41
Hornick two or 3836816 That is 203836816 So area 20 key.
00:03:57
You had a good year.
00:03:58
All right? We're not taking any.
00:03:59
We're not taking that away from.
00:04:02
However, his numbers were knocked the best compared Teoh.
00:04:09
Well, numbers were not the best.
00:04:10
Me at it is your A was definitely record breaking, not worker breaking, but it was a ridiculous.
00:04:19
You're right.
00:04:20
Right.
00:04:21
Well, it it like you don't have.
00:04:30
Yuri does not tell the whole story.
00:04:33
Wonder you use it more than all the people do or less and other people do.
00:04:40
It doesn't take away from the fact that it does not toe the entire story.
00:04:48
So I think you know, people rely on this stat.
00:04:52
You're great too much when they don't look at the ****ytical stacks such as Fifth Exit, Sierra Home Unflappable Reef.
00:05:01
You, You know, stuff like that, um, is you know, it makes it so I think, you know, I I don't think he deserved it, and we'll get into this.
00:05:25
But like, I mean, he had a historical season in terms of era, but he again here it is not tell the whole story.
00:05:38
He had a good defense behind them, Not saying, saying that Kershaw didn't have defense, but and insurers, er but they all have good defense is beyond them.
00:05:51
But, you know, it's I would I would say that like no matter like that, he won't like he won Cy Young just because of this, Your A and his record was just wanted to in six, which she doesn't deserve for, And I think some people determined, actually.
00:06:17
Sure, some people say sures or should have actually what been second and you're in the voting.
00:06:24
I don't believe in that.
00:06:26
I don't think he should have For some people dosomething some people who think area shooting 1/3 Looking at these are great numbers.
00:06:35
You already have put a great number.
00:06:38
Um, even with ****ytically stats, but to compare Teoh Kershaw.
00:06:43
He had better numbers.
00:06:44
There's no doubt about it.
00:06:47
All right, So you through each category so we could go through shirt.
00:06:55
We even, um But sure.
00:06:58
Yours numbers only.
00:07:01
You sure stars.
00:07:03
All right, So Oriana, up a 1.
00:07:06
77 year it. Alright.
00:07:09
More points on the 70 year.
00:07:10
Um three.
00:07:13
It Ryuta also put up a better whip and he broke better. Eerie.
00:07:18
Plus, don't talk.
00:07:20
They don't a little story better cause me, it's more meaningful stats.
00:07:28
You'll see Syria Kershaw put about a fit one of a better expect he put up a better steer.
00:07:36
Um, there yet it put up a better home on the fly ball ratio.
00:07:43
Herschel did have a better strikeout percentage.
00:07:48
Um, her shouted of that a walk percentage, her shot it up a bet.
00:07:55
I mean, areata divide better strikeout to walk ratio.
00:08:01
But Kershaw overall had a better fangraphs war.
00:08:08
Okay, I now I'm looking at that war.
00:08:12
I don't think Sure Zer had, So I'm getting this over them on the offer.
00:08:18
He's this often and will be nerves on Instagram.
00:08:23
Like he just got things that, um, shoes you had a better um going 15 but I definitely think area that are better.
00:08:36
2015.
00:08:37
That shows, er me is He had a worse fit.
00:08:47
You get a better.
00:08:49
Yeah.
00:08:50
Uh, we're getting about 1/5.
00:08:52
A better extra.
00:08:55
Um, sure did have a better.
00:08:58
Sure.
00:08:59
Sure.
00:09:00
Zoom did have a better Sierra, which basically skill inclined.
00:09:06
You're right.
00:09:07
So, yeah, so shares her.
00:09:14
The thing is, though, it shows her had a better Sierra, which is skill inclined hearing, which that's probably the main reason why.
00:09:25
To make a stand and why, you know, he should have won a psych.
00:09:30
Why, sure.
00:09:32
You're sort of one instead of area.
00:09:35
I don't think I don't think she was your sugar e area if you're not including, um So I am ago. Kershaw.
00:09:45
Marietta shares.
00:09:46
Er did have a better Her shares were Did have about a strikeout percentage at her walk finish to strike a no area and better.
00:10:00
So I gotta walk, Lucia.
00:10:02
And are you had a had a better finger house work, so, you know, it's it's, um It's tough. I laugh.
00:10:21
I think the main factor here the y y I'm putting area over shirt, sir, is because over that finger form, I, I think report.
00:10:31
Yeah, I'm thinking to do that only because that figure for work if they progress war was better than area. I would definitely put it.
00:10:38
But with the ceiling kind of your right, it's like it's a baby.
00:10:43
Makes definitely exit question.
00:10:45
So again, here is not sellable.
00:10:47
Story doesn't It's an enumerated stat, and so is batting average it.
00:10:53
It is not.
00:10:54
It's not a bad start to use, but compared to other sets that you can use Nova, step right.
00:11:01
So, you know, I think, I mean, if we won't if anybody like to call it, I'm not reading chapter ****ogy because my I had worked for him.
00:11:21
I have a chat.
00:11:22
Doesn't work. For some reason, it's actually super, really.
00:11:25
I want whatever.
00:11:28
So during an article on technical about this as well, you know me actually, because it doesn't say there is sure there's whip very close, some delicate sugars.
00:11:54
I looked at her shows with I looked at Kershaw's with but not shares.
00:12:06
There's era coursing look.
00:12:16
So if you guys were talking Chevron, Eleanor, if you guys are are not I'm not bringing chant real.
00:12:23
I wish I could, but it's kind of annoying.
00:12:25
Can't really slow like the motors judge off of your A too much, and it's a little frustrating.
00:12:37
Your it is a little frustrating.
00:12:41
Does it look like he shares your full share with Washington? I think shares air didn't get it.
00:12:50
The only because wow, wow won't use fit inside youngling.
00:12:56
I think he didn't get it only because it was 14 to 12 record.
00:12:59
I think Chargers are judge off that too much as well.
00:13:04
Joe Graham definitely deserved the science journal, and he had a brigade when loss.
00:13:10
But it won't like they didn't drug off.
00:13:12
His win loss was March.
00:13:13
So you know more, Siri applause did a worse.
00:13:17
Yeah.
00:13:18
So, you know, I think your area had a better fit.
00:13:22
I mean, a whip.
00:13:25
So when we were like to call in home on a two or 38368816 That is two or 3836816 All right, so is all right.
00:13:47
So sure there.
00:13:50
Like I think that I think personal.
00:13:55
Definitely in a better you.
00:13:57
Then area in a but eso answering the question, he didn't deserve asylum.
00:14:04
Well, sure, Czar, because you should not have became fit in the science.
00:14:09
Wouldn't she? Was a should have come third or second the I see you that Skilling calling your rain.
00:14:21
It's but then the fifth.
00:14:24
Except it's stop.
00:14:27
And that didn't see this is hard.
00:14:29
Um, about a walker, son is better strikeout percentage.
00:14:33
I think I'm gonna I think I'm gonna sick with era with area over. Sure.
00:14:38
Just because yeah, again he want He won because of his record.
00:14:45
I was Kershaw's record that season.
00:14:49
Her is win loss because that might have played a huge factor into that.
00:14:57
I didn't put that into the post, will, like, Do you want 16? Seven? And because areata went 22 sticks and they don't look at ****ytics like he's only third in the sighing, burning love.
00:15:25
I see.
00:15:32
So all right, I got a look at this.
00:15:37
Sion would okay NL Cy Young winner Zack Greinke so that Greinke actually was second and saying weddings a ranking at a all that pretty well your army? Yeah, Greinke.
00:15:57
I mean, Greg, yet good.
00:15:58
Really in here and sit on salt will do between rank e and Kershaw cool, however cooled and have that preliminary plus.
00:16:08
But get up, Jonah.
00:16:18
He had one Siam.
00:16:20
Well, for ST Louis.
00:16:25
Sure you want Fifth, Cole? I mean, hold definitely it.
00:16:31
Sure you don't like about your than cool? So? All right, Frankie, because I all that rinky stuff here free all that Greinke stature rank e 2015 had no usual, albeit he was only that was meaning because of his win loss.
00:17:00
But you couldn't be a good whip.
00:17:06
No. Good enough.
00:17:07
It No, There.
00:17:09
All right.
00:17:12
Mm.
00:17:13
Fit.
00:17:17
All right, so my final voting is I'm gonna put 3 15 I'm gonna put it Kershaw first gonna put area in a second.
00:17:40
We're gonna pull it, Greinke.
00:17:46
Third, I'm gonna put shares your fourth, and I'm gonna put coal fit.
00:17:55
All right, that's my final saw.
00:17:59
Young loading of 20.
00:18:02
Hit me.
00:18:03
Uh, I'm not gonna I'm gonna mention every single one of those guys in the oracle, so Yeah.
00:18:13
What? All right.
00:18:22
So I won't thank you guys all for tuning in here on sports yester on inside the dugout.
00:18:33
Get our out tro song? Yes, I havent Outro song.
00:18:46
Very get this plan and we'll get out of here if in a lover load or it No work.
00:19:10
I wanted a small chance I fell in.
00:19:16
Why fudge? Really? My life has really struggling like literally taking forever longing.
00:19:26
Everything's taken from around super slow Read smokes Harry Gil stupid at they were you.
00:19:56
Oh, when I want you guys
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Did Arrieta deserve his 2015 Cy Young Award?
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Transcript hideup
00:02:58
welcomes inside the dugout, everybody.
00:03:01
I'm heroes.
00:03:02
When Riley are in term.
00:03:03
Sof, you in another interest in smaller streams.
00:03:10
So yeah.
00:03:14
So I just reading last night about this topic and like it, So I'm gonna do it again.
00:03:27
Give it another try.
00:03:29
Um, So I'll take this off and I put that up.
00:03:41
Hornick two or 3836816 That is 203836816 So area 20 key.
00:03:57
You had a good year.
00:03:58
All right? We're not taking any.
00:03:59
We're not taking that away from.
00:04:02
However, his numbers were knocked the best compared Teoh.
00:04:09
Well, numbers were not the best.
00:04:10
Me at it is your A was definitely record breaking, not worker breaking, but it was a ridiculous.
00:04:19
You're right.
00:04:20
Right.
00:04:21
Well, it it like you don't have.
00:04:30
Yuri does not tell the whole story.
00:04:33
Wonder you use it more than all the people do or less and other people do.
00:04:40
It doesn't take away from the fact that it does not toe the entire story.
00:04:48
So I think you know, people rely on this stat.
00:04:52
You're great too much when they don't look at the ****ytical stacks such as Fifth Exit, Sierra Home Unflappable Reef.
00:05:01
You, You know, stuff like that, um, is you know, it makes it so I think, you know, I I don't think he deserved it, and we'll get into this.
00:05:25
But like, I mean, he had a historical season in terms of era, but he again here it is not tell the whole story.
00:05:38
He had a good defense behind them, Not saying, saying that Kershaw didn't have defense, but and insurers, er but they all have good defense is beyond them.
00:05:51
But, you know, it's I would I would say that like no matter like that, he won't like he won Cy Young just because of this, Your A and his record was just wanted to in six, which she doesn't deserve for, And I think some people determined, actually.
00:06:17
Sure, some people say sures or should have actually what been second and you're in the voting.
00:06:24
I don't believe in that.
00:06:26
I don't think he should have For some people dosomething some people who think area shooting 1/3 Looking at these are great numbers.
00:06:35
You already have put a great number.
00:06:38
Um, even with ****ytically stats, but to compare Teoh Kershaw.
00:06:43
He had better numbers.
00:06:44
There's no doubt about it.
00:06:47
All right, So you through each category so we could go through shirt.
00:06:55
We even, um But sure.
00:06:58
Yours numbers only.
00:07:01
You sure stars.
00:07:03
All right, So Oriana, up a 1.
00:07:06
77 year it. Alright.
00:07:09
More points on the 70 year.
00:07:10
Um three.
00:07:13
It Ryuta also put up a better whip and he broke better. Eerie.
00:07:18
Plus, don't talk.
00:07:20
They don't a little story better cause me, it's more meaningful stats.
00:07:28
You'll see Syria Kershaw put about a fit one of a better expect he put up a better steer.
00:07:36
Um, there yet it put up a better home on the fly ball ratio.
00:07:43
Herschel did have a better strikeout percentage.
00:07:48
Um, her shouted of that a walk percentage, her shot it up a bet.
00:07:55
I mean, areata divide better strikeout to walk ratio.
00:08:01
But Kershaw overall had a better fangraphs war.
00:08:08
Okay, I now I'm looking at that war.
00:08:12
I don't think Sure Zer had, So I'm getting this over them on the offer.
00:08:18
He's this often and will be nerves on Instagram.
00:08:23
Like he just got things that, um, shoes you had a better um going 15 but I definitely think area that are better.
00:08:36
2015.
00:08:37
That shows, er me is He had a worse fit.
00:08:47
You get a better.
00:08:49
Yeah.
00:08:50
Uh, we're getting about 1/5.
00:08:52
A better extra.
00:08:55
Um, sure did have a better.
00:08:58
Sure.
00:08:59
Sure.
00:09:00
Zoom did have a better Sierra, which basically skill inclined.
00:09:06
You're right.
00:09:07
So, yeah, so shares her.
00:09:14
The thing is, though, it shows her had a better Sierra, which is skill inclined hearing, which that's probably the main reason why.
00:09:25
To make a stand and why, you know, he should have won a psych.
00:09:30
Why, sure.
00:09:32
You're sort of one instead of area.
00:09:35
I don't think I don't think she was your sugar e area if you're not including, um So I am ago. Kershaw.
00:09:45
Marietta shares.
00:09:46
Er did have a better Her shares were Did have about a strikeout percentage at her walk finish to strike a no area and better.
00:10:00
So I gotta walk, Lucia.
00:10:02
And are you had a had a better finger house work, so, you know, it's it's, um It's tough. I laugh.
00:10:21
I think the main factor here the y y I'm putting area over shirt, sir, is because over that finger form, I, I think report.
00:10:31
Yeah, I'm thinking to do that only because that figure for work if they progress war was better than area. I would definitely put it.
00:10:38
But with the ceiling kind of your right, it's like it's a baby.
00:10:43
Makes definitely exit question.
00:10:45
So again, here is not sellable.
00:10:47
Story doesn't It's an enumerated stat, and so is batting average it.
00:10:53
It is not.
00:10:54
It's not a bad start to use, but compared to other sets that you can use Nova, step right.
00:11:01
So, you know, I think, I mean, if we won't if anybody like to call it, I'm not reading chapter ****ogy because my I had worked for him.
00:11:21
I have a chat.
00:11:22
Doesn't work. For some reason, it's actually super, really.
00:11:25
I want whatever.
00:11:28
So during an article on technical about this as well, you know me actually, because it doesn't say there is sure there's whip very close, some delicate sugars.
00:11:54
I looked at her shows with I looked at Kershaw's with but not shares.
00:12:06
There's era coursing look.
00:12:16
So if you guys were talking Chevron, Eleanor, if you guys are are not I'm not bringing chant real.
00:12:23
I wish I could, but it's kind of annoying.
00:12:25
Can't really slow like the motors judge off of your A too much, and it's a little frustrating.
00:12:37
Your it is a little frustrating.
00:12:41
Does it look like he shares your full share with Washington? I think shares air didn't get it.
00:12:50
The only because wow, wow won't use fit inside youngling.
00:12:56
I think he didn't get it only because it was 14 to 12 record.
00:12:59
I think Chargers are judge off that too much as well.
00:13:04
Joe Graham definitely deserved the science journal, and he had a brigade when loss.
00:13:10
But it won't like they didn't drug off.
00:13:12
His win loss was March.
00:13:13
So you know more, Siri applause did a worse.
00:13:17
Yeah.
00:13:18
So, you know, I think your area had a better fit.
00:13:22
I mean, a whip.
00:13:25
So when we were like to call in home on a two or 38368816 That is two or 3836816 All right, so is all right.
00:13:47
So sure there.
00:13:50
Like I think that I think personal.
00:13:55
Definitely in a better you.
00:13:57
Then area in a but eso answering the question, he didn't deserve asylum.
00:14:04
Well, sure, Czar, because you should not have became fit in the science.
00:14:09
Wouldn't she? Was a should have come third or second the I see you that Skilling calling your rain.
00:14:21
It's but then the fifth.
00:14:24
Except it's stop.
00:14:27
And that didn't see this is hard.
00:14:29
Um, about a walker, son is better strikeout percentage.
00:14:33
I think I'm gonna I think I'm gonna sick with era with area over. Sure.
00:14:38
Just because yeah, again he want He won because of his record.
00:14:45
I was Kershaw's record that season.
00:14:49
Her is win loss because that might have played a huge factor into that.
00:14:57
I didn't put that into the post, will, like, Do you want 16? Seven? And because areata went 22 sticks and they don't look at ****ytics like he's only third in the sighing, burning love.
00:15:25
I see.
00:15:32
So all right, I got a look at this.
00:15:37
Sion would okay NL Cy Young winner Zack Greinke so that Greinke actually was second and saying weddings a ranking at a all that pretty well your army? Yeah, Greinke.
00:15:57
I mean, Greg, yet good.
00:15:58
Really in here and sit on salt will do between rank e and Kershaw cool, however cooled and have that preliminary plus.
00:16:08
But get up, Jonah.
00:16:18
He had one Siam.
00:16:20
Well, for ST Louis.
00:16:25
Sure you want Fifth, Cole? I mean, hold definitely it.
00:16:31
Sure you don't like about your than cool? So? All right, Frankie, because I all that rinky stuff here free all that Greinke stature rank e 2015 had no usual, albeit he was only that was meaning because of his win loss.
00:17:00
But you couldn't be a good whip.
00:17:06
No. Good enough.
00:17:07
It No, There.
00:17:09
All right.
00:17:12
Mm.
00:17:13
Fit.
00:17:17
All right, so my final voting is I'm gonna put 3 15 I'm gonna put it Kershaw first gonna put area in a second.
00:17:40
We're gonna pull it, Greinke.
00:17:46
Third, I'm gonna put shares your fourth, and I'm gonna put coal fit.
00:17:55
All right, that's my final saw.
00:17:59
Young loading of 20.
00:18:02
Hit me.
00:18:03
Uh, I'm not gonna I'm gonna mention every single one of those guys in the oracle, so Yeah.
00:18:13
What? All right.
00:18:22
So I won't thank you guys all for tuning in here on sports yester on inside the dugout.
00:18:33
Get our out tro song? Yes, I havent Outro song.
00:18:46
Very get this plan and we'll get out of here if in a lover load or it No work.
00:19:10
I wanted a small chance I fell in.
00:19:16
Why fudge? Really? My life has really struggling like literally taking forever longing.
00:19:26
Everything's taken from around super slow Read smokes Harry Gil stupid at they were you.
00:19:56
Oh, when I want you guys
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