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Maybe she sing the national anthem in case we are live.
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What's one? Yours? Yours? What's morals, candidate? Okay. All right.
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Okay.
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What's going on? Everybody? This is Ray route and I'm with my partners in crime Joe, New Beau and Lawrence O in.
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And we are here to rap about football here on SportsCastr news.
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You know what it is, gentlemen? How are you? I mean, you know, surviving.
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Let me just say, Let me just say this, OK? As a Ravens fan, I am sick of the Patriots being in the playoff picture, and now I'm afraid that they're in it again.
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And I don't like that at all.
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I do not like that at all.
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I have been on cloud nine since Saturday, man.
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Absolute cloud nine Lourdes, you with us or you just stated really, really looks frozen.
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Dude, my internet just went off on off, on off, your perfect.
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So no, we were just We decide, like, 15 minutes of off air conversation.
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Yeah, And then as soon as you go live, I just sat there and watched my, my, uh You know you have the little TV screen for your land, and then when you're disconnected, you have, like, the worst.
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Why, Yeah.
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Oh, boy, this is Bs.
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All right.
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So today, guys, uh, Internet issues ****ed off Raven fans, and we are wrapping and chatting about number one.
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Number one, number one on the New England Patriots.
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Mr. Cam Newton.
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Now, a lot of Patriot fans have been been on having been on board with this signings of looks like a bit of a 50 50 split amongst Patriot fans.
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I, for one, as a Patriot fan and ecstatic.
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I mean, Lawrence and I, we talked about it yesterday here on SC News, and I was just giddy just chatting about it.
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I I used up like, five gigabytes of data just so we could talk about Cam Newton.
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But Mike put on like old Bert, who was a running back in 2018 to 2017 played for I believe the Chargers played a year with the Buffalo Bills, played a bunch of years with the Carolina Panthers.
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I think five years with them well, he came out today and said that he has personally heard Bilbao checks opinion on brand new quarterback Mr Cameron Newton, saying Quote, I've been around during games.
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When Bill Belichick is flat out, said to Cam, he loves his game.
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Continue what he's doing.
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I know some of the players on the Patriots personally, and they have all raved about how Bills always praising Cam for his ability.
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I really only thought he had two legitimate landing spots that was New England in Chicago, and I didn't think that Chicago was willing to admit that they were wrong with that.
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Mitch True biscuit e ****.
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Which that one made me giggle.
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It actually said ****.
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It actually said, ****, I like it, which allowed me to swear on the air, right, because I was just reported.
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I am a reporter.
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I am a professional and a Tom Brady jersey.
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But look, so cams with the Patriots.
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Ah, we have not been able to be on all together to discuss this move since Saturday.
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In fact, I figured out today I think it's been exactly a week since the last time all three of us were together, as it I had to bail.
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Then Lawrence got sick, and then I was off for the weekend for an extended long weekend.
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And I don't know what the hell happened with you guys last night.
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All Lawrence had a roof for and you were, you know, your every that son.
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There's no proof of it.
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There's no proof of it.
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So it's our first time in a week coming together.
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So we're here to talk about Cam Newton to the Patriots.
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Lawrence has given his public opinion.
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I give in mind we haven't heard Joe's public opinion, and I believe I know Joe's public opinion.
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But he's gonna be purposely be a ******* today and be combatant.
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So, Joe, why don't you take it away? Give your opinion on Cam Newton and the Patriots.
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Now? One thing that warrants and I discussed yesterday that we like I'd like to get your opinion on his well is I won't tell you what we said.
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We'll see if you actually watch what he said.
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But we'll give our opinions after, But do you believe that the 2020 Patriots with Cam Newton will be better than the 2019 Patriots with Tom Brady? No, no, they were 12 and four, but before we get into all that, I have to get this out.
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You I m f e a Whole bees just don't know when to die, right? You're like the ****roaches of the NFL.
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The Patriots just don't die.
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Oh, I remember a few years ago, Tom Brady's gonna be suspended for the 1st 4 games of the season they're gonna go on for and then they're not gonna make the playoffs.
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Oh, no, They won, like three games.
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Still, because they have Bill Belichick and the Patriots are the Patriots.
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Um oh, they still went 11 and five without Tom Brady when he got injured for the season.
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The Patriots don't know how to die, and I am sick of it.
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All right, that's out of my system.
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But no, I don't think that they're gonna be better than last year.
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I don't I actually have them peg and again, like we said, there's out there in the ether somewhere.
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I don't know where.
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So I don't know if somebody has seen it, probably only myself.
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There is a 26 minute stream where I gave my opinion on Cam Newton and the Patriots, but I have to give it again because that doesn't obviously exist anymore.
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So anyway, I think this makes them a nine win t, which is still good.
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And I actually think that's good enough to win the A F c East.
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Because as you guys know, I am not high on the Buffalo Bills.
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And if you ask me to, I can give your reasons why. I'm sure.
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You know, the viewers would love to hear that, and I'm sure our boss, Nick, would also enjoy hearing that as well.
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But Cam Newton, Patriots? I have more faith in Cam Newton that Jared Stadium leading the Patriots for sure.
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No doubt this to meet changes the Patriots dynamic from maybe a 6 to 7 to eight win team.
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If everything goes great with Jared stem to possibly, you know, 8 to 9.
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And if and if Cam Newton can play amazing, a 10 win team and probably a playoff spot.
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That's how I feel that this signing, you know, the effect it'll have on this year's Patriots.
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But, no, they won't be better than last year because I don't see them getting 12 wins.
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Okay, so did the Patriots win 12 games last year because they had Tom Brady? Not necessarily Or did the Patriots win 10 gate 12 games last year because they had the number one ranked defense, the number two ranked special teams? How about there the 1st 8 games of the season, where against cupcake teams in our and they had the benefit of a schedule? So I see.
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See, this is it.
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And this has been the argument amongst Patriot fans, and this is I.
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I told you guys, I have a super special comparison to make and I'm gonna make it.
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Now I've heard Patriot fans talk to me about Cam Newton's winning percentage.
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I've heard Cam Newton's interception receptive his completion percentage.
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You know, all this kind of junk.
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Ola, can we turn around and say that every game that every team wins is because of the quarterback? You can't Not always, Not ever.
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You have to win as a team 22 people.
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You have to play defense.
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You have to play offense.
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You have to play special teams, three phases of the games for a reason.
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So But when we look at personal stats and you start throwing at me winning percentages and this and that, okay, can we remind people that Cam Newton played for the Carolina Panthers and Tom Brady played for the New England Patriots.
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All while you know, Ray, you're gonna try to make that argument.
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But there's no fair comparison, but ha ha there is.
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So let's look a 2018 for Cam Newton, because I was his last sort of full season.
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He played 14 games, right? Well compared to Tom Brady's 2019 season, the Carolina Panthers offensive lines.
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I know a lot of people are going to turn around and say, Tom Brady had no help from the offensive line.
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Last year was beat up.
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Well, Tom Brady's offensive line was rated 18th in the NFL with an 83% 83% protection rates.
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Okay, Not great for a Patriots team in 2018.
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The Carolina Panthers protection or line protection was 18th in the league at an 81.
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9% protection rate.
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So Tom Brady had a better offensive line last year, then can do on dead in 2018.
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And you got to use 2018 cause that's the last time he was actually healthy. Correct.
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Tom Brady threw for 4057 yards cam through for 3395 yards.
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Let's not forget Cam Newton added on some rushing totals that Tom Brady did not Brown 500.
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I'll get there in a second.
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Tom Brady last year carried the ball 26 times for 34 yards.
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Cam Newton ran at 101 for 448.
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So when you add those all together, their overall stats are pretty comparable from a yardage yards gained percentage.
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But here was the big one, so we know they are.
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So then they're going to turn around and go all well, Tom Brady's supporting cast wasn't great last year, and it wasn't it was ranked 17th in the NFL.
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Okay, I thought, Well, maybe I got that wrong.
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Yes, 17th in the NFL.
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Cam did have a bit of an advantage of being rated 14th in the NFL the year before, so three spots up, but still pretty close in comparison.
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No top 10 offense, either.
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Which way here was the big piece.
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Man under pressure.
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Tom Brady completed 28.
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4% of his passes, ranking him 29th in the NFL.
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Now Tom Brady's not a scrambler that shouldn't be expected.
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You know, no quarterback should be expected to throw under pressure while in a clean pocket.
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How about a 68.
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4% completion percentage ranking him 32nd in the NFL.
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How about being 27th and red zone completion 28th and play action? And how about having a true completion percentage of 66%? Okay.
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60 play diary.
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That right. 66 Professor.
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True. Completion.
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Percentage of 66%.
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Cam Newton was fifth in the NFL under pressure in 2018 completing 47.
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1% of his passes while under pressure.
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Unfortunately, 2018 they were not, um, Count.
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They were not recording the clean pocket percentage, but Cam Newton had a true completion percentage.
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You guys wanna guess what it was? No.
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74.
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8% raking him fifth in the NFL.
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Impressive.
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So when we compare these numbers and I'm gonna get I'm wearing the man's jersey, I'm going to get hung from a lamppost upside down if I visit New England.
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But if you look at those numbers, if all Cam Newton does is repeat 2018 not get better.
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But repeat what happened in 2018 under what will be better cir***stances for him in New England? Concerned if the offensive line stays the way it is right now? With David Andrews back and not out for the year? If Isaiah Wind can stay healthy, they re signed Joe Tooni.
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The offensive line should be greatly improved.
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How is Cam Newton? Not an improvement over Tom Brady and the way those numbers panned out last year? So what do you think your ceiling for wins is, then, Ted.
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Our ceiling.
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Yeah, I think our floor is 9 to 10.
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I did it today and I had it.
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I had a lot of Flora 10 When I went through, I had us losing the Baltimore I had us losing to Kansas City.
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Um, I think I gave the game to Houston.
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I can't remember the other games, but I had I just I had a 10 floor where that should be a minimum of 10 wins, and if everything can go right because when you get past that guarantee, everything has to go right.
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Everything go right.
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You know, Lamarque and having off game or, you know, whatever Patrick Marv's armed falls off or something.
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You know, I mean, then they can start going up from there.
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But I had I now have them beating the Raiders, which I didn't before.
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I now have them beating the Broncos, which I didn't before.
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I've always had them beating San Francisco because I just saw jittery G was gonna choke coming home.
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Um, I don't have the schedule in front, and I can't remember what I picked right now, but I have them losing to the teams that everybody's gonna lose to.
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You mean Baltimore came to city? Ah, couple other teams.
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I just Seattle, you know? I mean, I have them losing to Seattle.
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I turned games around.
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I had them splitting in Los Angeles.
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I had him beating the Chargers and losing to the Rams.
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I now haven't we now have them beating the Rams? Interesting.
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Yeah.
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So when I have the Chargers beating the Patriots, regardless of having Cam Newton or not because of that defense, listen, what are you going to do if you're run game gets shut down? And don't tell me it's not possible because it's possible it happened to the Ravens am.
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Then Cam Newton is gonna throw the ball to join 1 may be doing.
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Maybe Julian Edelman, who at 1000 yards who's had back to back to back to back to back seasons and drops last year you did.
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Mohammed Sunu is Mohammed.
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Sunu is healthy.
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Good receiver and get number two and number one.
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All right, Joe.
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Joe, let me bring this back to you.
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What did you have the Ravens going last year? Did you have Lamar Jackson? When an MP And don't bull**** me and tell me you didn't or you did great.
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You probably had the Ravens winning eight games because Lamar Jackson looked like a pile of crap against the Chargers.
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An absolute pile of crap against the Chargers.
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And I thought, Maybe this kid doesn't have it.
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And then he came around and he blew up.
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So, you know, when we talked about these kind of things Julian Edelman has, I think, four seasons in a row now with 1000 yards and receiving.
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So let's not pretend like he's some slug.
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That's just coming off the bench of that one good kind of year for the Patriots.
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I'm just pulling up.
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It starts right now.
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I mean, that's just like That's where you raven fans get a little disrespectful.
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Read. Dismissed.
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Everything you know.
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I mean, it's just like 1000 yards, 8 50,000 yards, you know, like 1000 yard 1000 yards.
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It's the guy inside, you know? Anyways, all relax on that.
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All right, all relax on that.
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I want here.
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Well, Lawrence says to say, you may know that the law laid down the law.
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All right, First off, I have a question for both of you.
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Canteen Legitimately.
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Be better one year than the other.
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And yet win less games.
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100% Joe.
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Well, what do you want? Live better when you say better.
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What better? Better, completely.
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All the way around.
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They are better.
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Teoh looks pretty.
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Lose less games in the room is over.
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Over gritty wins.
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I would take a pretty win over.
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I don't want a pretty loss.
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I'm sorry.
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Hold him.
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You know what he means is, is two years ago or three years ago, when the Patriots played a Ben Roethlisberger pits or a Ben Roethlisberger less Pittsburgh when we seem to go up against every injured quarterback in the league and played every backup quarterback in the league and one games by seven points.
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And then I think that was 2000 and 15 and then we get exposed.
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The offense gets completely exposed against Denver in the A F C championship game.
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Come back in 2016.
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Brady, Mrs Four games.
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They're still scoring points, and then they're scoring points like will in 2016.
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I think that's what he means.
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And I think their record was better in 2015 that it wasn't 2016 yet.
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They have, but they played way better.
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How many times have you watched the game, baby? Not last year's guys on 13 wins.
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You won't have a lot of it, but haven't Did you watch the game when you're just like, How did the Ravens lose that game like they were the better team? One fumble, one, this one play one that my guys you don't expect you can lose the game.
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Um, you have teams like Look at the Patriots.
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What if the Patriots had this schedule last year? Do they win 12 games if they don't have the 1st 8 games of the year? Is a pancake schedule not a chance, right, baby? A baby A nine win team at the most.
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So that's what he's getting that you can put.
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Teams confine themselves in positions.
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I don't think it's a grind out game.
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It's You just happen to have a schedule where you know, Baltimore has to play Kansas City and this team in that team and, you know, every top team in the league.
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And somehow, you know, the Colts get to play every bottom feeder, you know, and they win 14 games and they look like the best team.
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But they're not really the best team because they were with their schedule, dictated them being the best team.
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That's one of the big points that I'm getting that you yourself, Joe said.
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They went through the first half of the season last year against some of the most biggest cupcake teams that they could possibly go, and then they started getting exposed to second half of the season.
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If Tom Brady was on the Patriots this season this season, would they win 12 games? This isn't no the way, but it's the same team they had last year.
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Yeah, so they should win the same amount, right? No, not necessarily because the schedules did you know, the schedule suffer? Yeah, Much tougher.
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So, legitimately, the Patriots could be a better team this year and still lose more games, then last year.
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Okay, I hear you.
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Right, Right.
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Okay.
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I say can makes this team of better team than what the Patriots were last year with Tom Brady.
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But I think that they will lose less games.
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Not a whole lot less.
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I think they're floor.
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I'm not quite as high as Ray is.
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I love Cam Newton here.
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I love the situation, but the fact of the matter is that his first year there, it's gonna take him time to get used to being there, take time to get used to the players.
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Because just the playbook, everything.
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But I still think it evens out.
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I think they think they're floors more around nine wins rather than 10.
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All right, I think they will, uh, push buffalo for the division.
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I think it will be a fight between the two teams.
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Whereas before I did not have.
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It s a fight for the further division.
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I had Buffalo winning this out.
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Running away.
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Yeah, pretty much.
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Um, let me let me ask you that guys this.
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Who do you think was better? The 2019 Bills or the 2019 Patriots Bills won 10 games.
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Patriots won 12.
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I think the bill sent the better roster overall, if you're told we're all I think over as an overall, Sure, I would take the Bills.
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Obviously, New England Bills had a really good defense and running game and a good running game, and they had receivers.
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And one with this year, Josh Allen is actually a decent quarterback If he could just get a few things squared away of Josh Allenby.
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Debatable, Josh Allen figures If Josh Allen figures it out and becomes a Top 10 quarterback, it's Buffalo become, ah, perennial Super Bowl contender, of course, but that's if right, yeah, yeah, that's telling.
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If that's that's the if, that's I think the Bills right now are silver better overall team that the Patriots but all the burger.
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But you asked about 2019 Lawrence, and yes, I think that a team can have last winds of more wins would be a better team yada, yada, yada.
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But I will argue that when a team is owing to two other said team It's hard to argue that they were the better team, right? The Buffalo, what? I had 12 wins that they would have beat the Patriots wasn't about wins.
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That's what we just got done saying what? We're going head to head when we're talking about head to head matchups.
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When you're talking about a team that went owing to you know what I mean to a team to turn around and say, Yeah, that was the better team when they beat the same pancakes that we beat because we're basically in the same schedule.
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They didn't have to play the Chiefs Imagine if they get replaced one of their games to the Chiefs, one of their games toe.
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Uh, Baltimore.
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You don't know that they play Baltimore.
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Last year, we played the division.
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That's your right.
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But, you know, they had we to play division winners, right? They didn't have to play.
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Houston didn't have to play Kansas City, Um, and the and they were owing to to the Patriots on the road and at home.
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So where divisional games are supposed to be split, so it's Ah, you know, that's where all arguing, we're starting to go head to head with wins.
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It's, you know, if I won't say, Hey, you know this player is better than that player because it's a team I hate You can't say if Patch If Lamar Jackson goes and beats Patrick Mahomes this year, you can't turn around and say, Lamar Jackson's a better quarterback to Patrick Mahomes because he beat Patrick Mahomes.
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The that argument is stupid.
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Not that you can make an argument.
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Who's better? What I'm saying.
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It's a stupid argument in the sense of it's a team game.
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You what? I mean, it's a team game and things happen that unless Lamar Jackson is playing offense and defense and you don't mean and Lamar Jackson is playing or Ah, Patrick Mahomes playing offense or defense, I don't think you can compare who is the better quarterback.
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Bye bye bye stats, because I think Dan Marino was better than half the guys who won the Super Bowl in his era.
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He just played for a really crappy team, right? But when it comes to a team, I mean when a team loses two games in the season to the to the same team, that's when you can look at a head to head victory.
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Also, I want to say when you say, Does you know who's he gonna throw to? He'll throw to the same players there were.
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There were times I went back and watched my own review of Tom Brady.
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There were times, many times, multiple times on just about every play where he either got factoring that throwing the football away where he had the football at least three seconds where there was a receiver that was open for at least one second.
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But he didn't throw the football because he knew he didn't have the arm strength to get there in time where Cam Newton does.
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Cam Newton will be able to throw that football when there's just a small window when they're open.
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Whereas Tom Brady just didn't have the arm strength to get there in time before the defender would get there, you know, so I think Cam opens up more opportunities for this offense.
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That what Tom Brady, Tom Brady? I think right now Cam's better for New England than what Tom Brady is just just by skill sets standpoints because he because doing one doesn't have and I'll be I agree with you.
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You know their weapons right now.
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At least last year they hold on and let me let me jump in on that, too, because we keep comparing the last year's weapons.
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What always amazes me when I argue with other and it's not just you guys, it's everybody, right? But when I have arguments with other teams fans, your rookies are going to perform right.
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We got this guy we got.
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Doctor told this guy we got in the fourth round.
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Trust me, he's We got two brand new tight ends coming into our system this year.
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We had the worst tight and core in the NFL last year.
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You know, the worst.
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We've got this guy Dalton Keen who? The reason ballot checked are drafted him because his skill set reminded him of Aaron Hernandez and how much he moves around the field.
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See, people want to talk about we Look, look, when you kill Harry did last year, okay? When did Aussie Aussie due for the Patriots last year? What did Keane do for the Patriots last year? Well, while they're rookies, you know, you know you can't count. Well, hold on.
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You just told me how this guy you got in the second round is going to do this for you.
00:25:16
This guy you got in the fourth round is going to do this for you from year to year, as you have new guys.
00:25:23
Look, this is another miracle one.
00:25:26
If Marqise Lee is actually healthy, as he says he is, and he's doesn't get injured again.
00:25:31
And he goes back to the 2017 2016 guy that's getting 700 yards and and burning things.
00:25:36
That's another guy.
00:25:37
If Mohammed Sunu, as he claims, it was really his ankle, that was really the big problem last year.
00:25:43
He's going to be a different player this year when he comes to pay.
00:25:46
I mean, Joe, he torched your Ravens.
00:25:50
Costa New? Yeah.
00:25:53
Did you see? Did you see a starts? 120 yards? I mean, tell me where.
00:26:00
What's that? Well, I mean, I mean, hundreds, one of yards.
00:26:04
That's not Ah, that's not, um I don't know if Gilmore gave up 120 yards, I'd be ****ed at him.
00:26:12
Yeah, um I mean, and then he heard his.
00:26:15
But he also hurt his ankle.
00:26:16
That game and the guy was never the freak insane after he hurt his ankle.
00:26:22
Why did they give me the 2018 demon trying to pull up his exact stats here? More bonus game? Mohammed.
00:26:29
I remember it because it was so insignificant because the Ravens were just running all over that Patriots defense.
00:26:35
Yeah, you're also one of the biggest homers I know.
00:26:38
So it's 00 no.
00:26:40
I've never met you.
00:26:41
Somebody who just your team is absolutely perfect.
00:26:45
They're not sooner.
00:26:46
You I've never heard you criticize the team.
00:26:48
One time.
00:26:49
14 to 1 time.
00:26:52
You haven't met many Kansas City.
00:26:54
Oh, yeah, the more they their they're pretty.
00:26:59
The meetings. You can't tell him anything.
00:27:01
I am at least open to different possibilities.
00:27:03
Well, we lost another fan base rather not have to fence.
00:27:09
So no, uh, Kansas City is a great team.
00:27:12
I'm not going tonight that I mean, I got some pants that I get along with, but there's a lot of them that are most of them yet.
00:27:24
I'm not I don't know.
00:27:25
I Yeah, I just know what ends up on my on my posts and stuff.
00:27:32
Um, but no rookies.
00:27:37
Honestly, you can't look it up.
00:27:39
Skill players unless there are running back like wide receivers.
00:27:43
As a rookie, you can't expect more than 700 yards from them more than because that's that's generally you don't get that much out of out of a rookie wide receiver because it's so much to learn as a wide receiver coming into the last time, 1/4 round Ricky tight ends had a amazing season, either 1/3 round or 1/4 or third round yet 00 well, Mark Andrews had Aaron Hernandez lots them.
00:28:12
There's lots of players tight end fight in canoe, really good because of the simple fact that they're overlooked on the defense.
00:28:19
Listen, the Patriots tight end's last year averaged, I think, totaled altogether, like 137 yards of total offense.
00:28:28
That was, that was an issue.
00:28:30
I'm not even lying to you guys.
00:28:32
You want to know how are tight ends did against the Ravens last year? Four catches for 28 yards? What was their run blocking ability? Awful looking awful.
00:28:43
Everything was awful.
00:28:45
That's why we got Ozzie Ozzie to open up the run game because he blocks like Gronk, that his blocking schemes like Gronk Keen is like Hernandez.
00:28:53
You what? I mean, it's the tight at the Patriots tight end's I'm trying to find Lets You guys was one here.
00:28:59
Freaking amazing.
00:29:00
Stats.
00:29:01
Oh, God, what a what a season Ben Watson had.
00:29:05
Oh, what a season Ben Watson on.
00:29:09
How old is Ben Watson? Used? Seven.
00:29:11
I don't care, but I hear some saying 53.
00:29:14
Ben Watson caught 17 passes for 173 yards.
00:29:20
He was our leading tight end receiver last year.
00:29:22
It was also the most skilled, like most skilled tight.
00:29:26
And then we were his age.
00:29:28
Oh, no, sorry. I apologize.
00:29:30
Matt Lacoste had 13 catches for 131 yards.
00:29:36
So we're up to two.
00:29:38
2 to 60.
00:29:39
And total tight and contribution coming.
00:29:42
Remember, this is a team that average, like 1100 yards in the tight end position for the last 10 years.
00:29:49
But you also had grown to while hold on.
00:29:51
No, we're going back to Ben Watson back in 2000.
00:29:54
Floor.
00:29:55
You know, that way? No, but I'm saying this is a team that has always played around its tight ends, and we had a whole season we couldn't and yet We had grog, but we won 2014.
00:30:07
Gronk played like six games and we won the Super Bowl 64,016 that come back those Martellus Bennett.
00:30:13
We won Super Bowl without Gronk, right? Ah, then Ryan ISO was our third tight end.
00:30:19
Well, I think he had the best season of them all.
00:30:22
Oh, yeah, six catches, 114 yards, one touchdown.
00:30:28
I think he was.
00:30:29
He's the only one that's impressive, actually, for potential eso We had no contribution from the tight end core last year, and it it hurt a team like from a blocking perspective, we lost Dwayne Allen and free agency, which I know, sounds ridiculous.
00:30:51
We lost Dwayne Allen, but he's a blocker Ben couldn't block.
00:30:56
Matt couldn't block.
00:30:57
Christ would put Ryan Innes a full back.
00:31:00
When our both our fullbacks got injured, he couldn't block is a fullback.
00:31:04
I thought I thought the Patriots were like the number one team in the NFL that brought in extra offensive linemen as as eligibles.
00:31:14
Why couldn't they be that Because let's remember that like 1/4 of the offensive line was injured last season, so we didn't have weeded Marshall Newhouse was, are starting left tackle for 10 days.
00:31:26
Speaking of your offensive line, aren't you concerned a little bit about the offensive line and you just lost? What's his name's Skornick with Scar Nicaea or not? You know, I'm not concerned about the offensive line, not concerns.
00:31:38
David Answers had blood clots on his lungs.
00:31:40
It's not like that was Ah, it's ongoing injury.
00:31:44
Are they gonna trade Tooni? Or that's what I heard? I don't know.
00:31:48
But if they trade Tooni, it's gonna be the rumor has been it was going to be to me for Odell.
00:31:52
So now that they've squashed the Odell, I doubt that you're going to see to Niego.
00:31:57
No, I think tunes going to stay on the team because they need him as a guard, right? You know what I mean? Look, this is also a team.
00:32:02
I mean, this is a team that players had to go into different spots because of the injury because Isaiah win got her.
00:32:08
We also had four hold and ah, you stay who were hurt coming out of the draft and they knew they weren't gonna be available coming into this season that they were going for surgery and they needed a year.
00:32:18
That was a mistake on ballot checks part.
00:32:20
You know, you draft a friggin guy.
00:32:22
We brought injury and alumina, or they put him in for three plays.
00:32:26
He let up two sacks and they took him out.
00:32:29
And they re Lazio that they moved to need to the taxi cause to Nikkan play tackle and guard.
00:32:37
Now, to me, the thing was, the year before Tooni and Mason were ranked number one.
00:32:43
Ah, from an ****ytic standpoint, Mason was number one to me was number three.
00:32:48
So they were the best guard tandem in the NFL.
00:32:51
But to Nikon shift.
00:32:52
When when Isaiah win got hurt, they shifted to needs to tackle, brought in alumina to guard.
00:32:59
They put two guys right on, or put a guy right on a luminary, let up two sacks and he was out to me.
00:33:04
Was back at tackle and ah was back.
00:33:07
A guard and then Marshall Newhouse became are starting left tackle.
00:33:10
I think he gave up like 14 quarterback hits and eight tackles.
00:33:15
And so but the line again with four.
00:33:19
With we, the depth of the line is better.
00:33:21
This season.
00:33:22
So I'm less concerned.
00:33:23
Because if we did lose Isaiah Win, which I expect we will because, you know, I don't know, someone blew on him or something.
00:33:29
Um, four holding could use.
00:33:30
They're both available to come in and and be reasonable backups.
00:33:33
And I think new house is still in the team, which kind of scares me a little bit.
00:33:37
He did.
00:33:38
Okay.
00:33:39
Is a rotational guy not as the starter, you know? I mean, when they would rotate him in from time to time, he was fine, you know that.
00:33:44
But when he was the starter Oh, my God.
00:33:47
What a not Germaine Alumina or out on the field.
00:33:50
You know, you're in trouble, like deep, deep trouble.
00:33:53
Believe me, I no Ebola checks screwed up on the depth chart on with the depth last year by taking two tackles who he knew couldn't play you What? I mean, who we knew were going to be injured for the season.
00:34:04
So they're both When they were practicing already before covitz started, they were on the fields already going through full paces, so they should be back.
00:34:12
So, no, I'm not as concerned about the offensive line We also still, you know Yacoub, Beyonce and comes back.
00:34:17
Who was our full back got injured last year. Devlin retired.
00:34:20
What they brought in of Vitale from Green Bay.
00:34:24
No, you're gonna see the Patriots run, But here's the difference.
00:34:26
We can run with our running backs, but we could run with our quarterback.
00:34:30
Well, we've never hope to offense of patriots have never been able to do that, right? I mean, cheeses.
00:34:36
I remember when it was Brady's Chase for 1000 after 18 years.
00:34:42
Yeah.
00:34:43
Listen, Tom Brady and and I know people go all this is sour g****s.
00:34:47
And you know what? I admit? I got a little bit of sour g****s towards Tom Brady, um, in some of his **** in texting his new throwing coach and talking about how he's having fun playing football again because, you know, I'd hate to make millions of dollars and won six championships, but it's no, it sucks.
00:35:03
But, um, you know, it's Ah, Brady has not been the same guy personality wise, And I mean Lawrence, you and I talked about it and I watched your whole film breakdown from a play perspective.
00:35:17
He wasn't the same guys last year, and I know Patriot fans were crying about it.
00:35:21
But if you watch a bunch of my broadcast from last year, I'm like, this has to be Brady's last year in New England.
00:35:26
Like, you know? I mean, it's I just didn't know who the hell they're going to replace him with.
00:35:30
Um, I tried my best to stay positive about Jared Stadium, but I'm jacked about Mr Newton coming into town.
00:35:36
Yeah.
00:35:37
Oh, it's It's not gonna be a terrible season.
00:35:39
Like I was predicting with us as they call him Jared the Javelin.
00:35:44
Right? Have you heard that video? Okay, who's selling them that? Patriots fans know it said some dude on with the show.
00:35:52
First things first, I think with Oh, Jared the chapter javelin.
00:35:57
And now it's all about Cam Newton.
00:35:59
Oh, forget Jared than Chaplin all of a sudden.
00:36:02
Well, I don't get is there is a lot, a lot of people, and I mean ah, lot like the majority of people who commented on my on my stuff When I when I post about my streams on Cam Newton, I don't know, I met the click mute.
00:36:21
There are a lot of people who say they don't think Cam Newton is gonna make the starting job that Jared Stadium will beat him out.
00:36:29
That cam is just there to make sure.
00:36:32
Literally there saying that can that they signed Camden to make sure the Patriots will tank for Trevor.
00:36:40
I kid you not.
00:36:41
And these were Patriot fans posting on my stuff, and I just want I just Oh, my goodness. Gracious.
00:36:50
I was going to share this on my you tube page.
00:36:53
I don't think I can't anymore, but I'm gonna listen.
00:36:59
Uh ah.
00:37:03
It's not all of them, all right? No, I know the handful of them.
00:37:08
Chris Rhino.
00:37:11
Joe.
00:37:12
I know them.
00:37:14
My boy Tyson, who doesn't YouTube page outside of that little core group.
00:37:21
But I didn't name them all, but they know who they are.
00:37:23
Patriots fans air awful there.
00:37:26
Like dude, I walk around all the time saying I hate patriots fans just because some of the dumb s that comes out of their mouth.
00:37:37
You what? I mean, like, it's dude like I'm okay.
00:37:40
Look, people were excited about Jared's dinner.
00:37:43
They were excited about him because the Patriots were going into this season that was different.
00:37:49
Do what? I mean, they're going into this season.
00:37:51
Know Tom Brady.
00:37:52
We got a young guy.
00:37:53
We got Bill Ballot. Jack.
00:37:55
We still got a great defense if the running game opens up because the old line, you know, people were excited to see I don't know if there was a belief instead, um, but I think there was ah hope instead of because if he did turn out to be something Oh, we got another 12 years of, you know, torturing the NFL or whatever, right? I also think there's a big group of people who have never seen the Patriots do anything but win.
00:38:19
You know, if you're born and I.
00:38:21
What I've realized now is people who were born in the year 2000 and two were like, 18 years old.
00:38:27
You and me, like they're actually like turning into adults now, So they've only been in an era where the Patriots have one.
00:38:37
I happen to be from an Arab, which was right before the Patriots got good.
00:38:41
And when I say got good, I mean, like, 1996 in 1997 when Drew Bledsoe brought them to a super Bowl and because I always say Bledsoe was the 1st 1 him in part cells to really turn things around.
00:38:51
And then we had the break Brady, Brady and balance.
00:38:53
That kind of took it to the next level of what they could accomplish.
00:38:57
So I think that they're there.
00:38:58
I think it was more hope, and I think when they see a 31 year old quarterback there like all my God, right, likewise given here instead of a chance.
00:39:06
But I throw it to them this way.
00:39:07
If it works out, let's pretend Cam reverts back to out in 2018 camp.
00:39:13
He's never gonna be 2015 cam ever again, right? I don't Nobody should expect him to come in and be the M V P.
00:39:21
But he's technically in the prime of his career from an age perspective, if he comes in and he is good two.
00:39:28
Very good, Not great, Not excellent.
00:39:30
Not Lamar Jackson, but very good.
00:39:35
We got 100 million salary cap next year, signed him for four years.
00:39:38
You what I mean and that we've got a good starting quarterback for another five years and then if everybody gets what they want because everybody thinks.
00:39:46
And what is it, four years or whatever? When When Aaron Rodgers contract is up, he's going to want to go play with Bill politically.
00:39:52
Let's just keep trolling the league well, you know, let's never get a young quarterback, and then Lamar will be 35 ready and we'll bring No, but it was his next.
00:40:04
But what I'm saying is, if camp turns out to be good and build, dollar check is light Cam Newton for a long time, like we could have a quarterback for our quarterback for the next four or five years, so I don't understand.
00:40:14
And this is such a no risk signing to the Patriots.
00:40:18
It's a $1,000,000 right? If they paid him seven point, if they pay Cam Newton $7.
00:40:23
5 million this year, I'm gonna be bragging about ring number seven.
00:40:28
You mean because he hit every incentive on that? That's a heavy, incentive laden contract.
00:40:35
You mean so it's it's Look, there's I don't understand why Patriot fans aren't more excited about this, because if it doesn't work, it were probably got that we would have got the same thing out of Jared Stadium this year.
00:40:48
If it works, though.
00:40:50
But we're laughing to the bank.
00:40:51
You mean so patriot fence Sock, I want I want you to I want to expand on that whole thought, Lawrence, that you add about that you're not so sure about the bills, you know, being the FCS favorites anymore.
00:41:06
And also, I just want to apologize if I'm sweaty because, like I told the guys, I don't have an a c at all in my house right now, so I'm waiting for the replacement.
00:41:15
So please forgive me from, you know, little drenched in sweat.
00:41:19
But anyway, Lawrence, I think the bills are going seven and nine and I think the Patriots could go 18 8 or nine and seven.
00:41:25
And when the a f c East.
00:41:26
So, what do you think about that? Yeah, I love that face.
00:41:36
I think you completely not really disrespected a f c East.
00:41:39
I know it's a pain.
00:41:40
I know.
00:41:41
It's been legitimately a pancake division for years and years.
00:41:46
Um, I think Miami is doing the right things to rebuild.
00:41:50
Personally, I think I think Miami legitimately is a minimum six win team this year.
00:41:56
No, they're going in the right direction.
00:41:58
They won't see the fruits of their labors and for another two or three years.
00:42:03
But they continue on the pace.
00:42:04
They could be.
00:42:05
Ah, contender in the A f C.
00:42:08
They still have steps to take.
00:42:09
I agree.
00:42:10
Buffaloes in the same situation they are at word Miami wants to be, um, again, it really has to do with Josh Allen.
00:42:20
They have talent all way across the board.
00:42:22
Josh Allen's the talent.
00:42:24
It's just whether or not he could pull this stuff together, right? I mean, that's that's what everybody wants to know.
00:42:30
You talk to Bills fans Josh out the top five quarterback.
00:42:35
I think they should be Super Bowl or bust this year.
00:42:38
The Bills? Oh, I think in that.
00:42:40
Might that mindset.
00:42:41
I think they should be a F C championship or bust.
00:42:45
Um, I like to see him when a divisional playoff game, you know, whether they get in as a wild card or as the division winner.
00:42:58
I think they need to win a divisional playoff game.
00:43:01
And what are not to be considered a bus this season? That's that's my thought process.
00:43:05
They need to get into the A F C championship.
00:43:08
Whether they get if they get to the Super Bowl, then, yeah, that then they're obviously their season.
00:43:12
This is Happy Day, even if they lose in the Super Bowl.
00:43:16
But well, maybe they'd like a win.
00:43:19
You know what I mean? Who wants to go to Tokyo? Lose.
00:43:23
But, I mean, you can't call it a complete failure if they make the Super Bowl for the first time.
00:43:28
By the way, yeah, exactly that.
00:43:32
Now, now they go four years straight to the Super Bowl and lose.
00:43:35
Then I would just forget on I would say, you know, as Buffalo, I want to sell the team because we're yeah style, But no, I think I think Buffalo.
00:43:49
But I still think Buffalo is Ah, 10 win body like Low in 10 win.
00:43:55
I think New England is a nine win low in.
00:43:57
I think it's gonna be a fight between both teams.
00:44:00
I think New England Buffalo.
00:44:01
It really.
00:44:02
I don't think it has anything to do with the fight in their own division.
00:44:06
I think it's gonna have to do with what they're going to do with the tougher teams on their schedule.
00:44:11
you know, all right, right of their own division.
00:44:13
So let's look at the A F C quickly.
00:44:16
We'll go through.
00:44:17
Buffalo.
00:44:18
Schedule will go through the Patriots schedule more, crowned the A F C East Champions way.
00:44:21
Already do buffaloes that will just do it again just to make it easy.
00:44:24
And I don't We didn't write it down.
00:44:25
I think you guys did.
00:44:26
I don't think I was with you and your Buffaloes.
00:44:28
Now, this is one of the assumption we all believe that Miami in New York don't have a chance of winning the FCC's correct or way Don't have one of them.
00:44:36
Okay, let's start with Buffalo.
00:44:40
Week one, New York Jets.
00:44:43
When weight.
00:44:45
Yeah, I don't care their home or away win.
00:44:48
OK, find.
00:44:50
All right, then the next week there at Miami win Atmani that that early in the season to win? Yeah, I think that early in the season it it's gonna be a lot of learning curve.
00:45:05
I think defense will be your biggest, your biggest proponent of the game.
00:45:09
And that's gonna help a lot with Buffalo.
00:45:12
I think Buffalo wins again.
00:45:13
It's not gonna be ready.
00:45:15
Yeah, I've got them is to know as well, and it's gonna be Fitzpatrick play not to.
00:45:19
Uh And then they got the Rams.
00:45:22
I have the Rams winning that one.
00:45:24
Well, actually, you know, You know what? You guys convinced me last time.
00:45:27
Now, I remember when we did this because I said the Rams would beat the bills, but then you're like they're traveling to the East Coast, like, Okay, you're right. Whatever.
00:45:36
Give it to the Give it to the bills.
00:45:38
Maybe we did do the bills.
00:45:39
Did I gotta remember having that conversation now and saying the buffalo got lucky that both West Coast teams air coming to I'm Come on.
00:45:53
Our boss has had us do this like, 15 times way.
00:45:58
Buffalo Bill schedule.
00:45:59
At some point, I just don't know if I wrote it down and I think I was recording it at the time.
00:46:03
I don't have a written down, so we got to go through it.
00:46:06
That's OK, then they go to Vegas.
00:46:09
I have them losing that one from I do as well. Lawrence.
00:46:17
That's odd.
00:46:19
Yeah, well, let's go ahead.
00:46:21
I think buffalo could win it, but they need to have ah, wake up game, and this could be it then there at Tennessee.
00:46:30
I think they stay with their lost momentum and they lose to the Titans.
00:46:36
Lawrence.
00:46:40
I think they lose because of Tennessee's defense and Rebels coaching.
00:46:45
I'm gonna give him a win because I think that you guys way over credit Tennessee.
00:46:49
That's all right.
00:46:51
Then they host Kansas City.
00:46:54
See that game, I think, could be a little closer than you might think.
00:46:57
But I still think the Chiefs are better and they will win.
00:47:00
I think I I agree with you, Joe.
00:47:02
I think that defense could actually put a little bit of pressure on, uh, homes.
00:47:09
But at the same time, Yeah, I think Kansas said he still puts up enough points.
00:47:15
Then they visit the New York Jets Dub unless 3/4 of their team is hurt, which is also possible.
00:47:29
So they give it hold on.
00:47:30
I'm giving them a loss OK against the Jets.
00:47:34
Ah, then they they face New England, and this is not me being a homer because I think I remember saying this before Cam Newton was there.
00:47:43
The Buffalo Bills did not beat the New England Patriots, including Josh Allen it's in their head.
00:47:49
Patriots win that game in Buffalo.
00:47:52
What do you guys say? I say they split him.
00:47:54
You're gonna split him.
00:47:57
I still agree.
00:47:59
I I just don't see them finding a way to beat the Patriots.
00:48:03
I haven't getting swept again.
00:48:06
There's just teams that they're in your head and you can't get through it.
00:48:10
I agree.
00:48:12
But I mean, then they have Seattle Los at verse at home, at home.
00:48:22
It's still a loss for me.
00:48:24
Yeah, I think it could be close, but I was the New England game at home or away at home.
00:48:32
It was at home.
00:48:34
So they're gonna host New England, and they're gonna host Seattle.
00:48:36
Okay, so I must say they win against New England at home.
00:48:39
But then they lose at home against Seattle because of a letdown game.
00:48:42
Okay, then they traveled to Arizona.
00:48:45
L Kyler Murray will be on his M v P campaign in that game.
00:48:53
What's the date now? November 15th.
00:48:58
I'm gonna have to give the game to Arizona's.
00:49:00
Well, I've got the Bills on a five game losing streak.
00:49:04
Yeah, I think so.
00:49:05
So it's a tough, tough t.
00:49:08
I think they beat Arizona? Nothing.
00:49:11
Then they got the Chargers in Buffalo.
00:49:15
Well, to me, they stayed.
00:49:16
They snap there, snap her loose tree.
00:49:18
They they win this game easy.
00:49:20
We'll give it a men.
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Men of for West.
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No theme going number. Hello.
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You said the bills.
00:49:28
We're gonna beat the Cardinals by 10 points.
00:49:31
I remember now.
00:49:32
I said Buffalo wins bites end.
00:49:35
Then they traveled to San Francisco.
00:49:38
That's up.
00:49:39
I bet, too, isn't it? I think that is apply back.
00:49:41
****.
00:49:42
So I had to have written it down somewhere.
00:49:44
All right. I gotta Look, I'll look through the book.
00:49:46
Okay? Then they then they got San Francisco loss loss? Yep.
00:49:53
Oh, my God.
00:49:54
I got my five game losing streak and they win one.
00:49:55
Then they lose again.
00:49:57
Then they host Pittsburgh on a 20 head.
00:50:00
Looks like a prime time game in Buffalo.
00:50:03
They beat, they beat Buffalo.
00:50:05
Are they being expert? I mean, I mean to give him the win just because I give them a lot of losses and they feel like they're gonna win one of the ones I got wrong.
00:50:16
What do you saying, Joe? Just to be nice.
00:50:21
I'll give them the win here.
00:50:23
Then they go to Mile High, where the altitude gets to Josh Allen and that ball travels 50 yards further than they.
00:50:28
Usually they take the loss against Denver.
00:50:32
What do you guys agree? Totally agree that this will be an interesting game because it's too good.
00:50:38
Defense is and potentially to high powered offense is potentially.
00:50:45
But I think one who knows how to play in that altitude and one who doesn't.
00:50:50
I'll give it to Denver, All right.
00:50:53
Then they go to New England and they lose December 28th.
00:50:56
Yeah, correct.
00:50:58
And then they finish off hosting away in in my area.
00:51:02
They face live beating Miami at home.
00:51:04
I think I might have given them a few more wins than I did last time. Let's see.
00:51:08
No, you got him winning seventh.
00:51:10
Okay, so I'm consistent.
00:51:14
Ray's got a winning three.
00:51:16
I got him winning.
00:51:18
I got him winning seven.
00:51:19
While there you go.
00:51:21
Hold on for I'm the only one that's got, like 10 maybe 11.
00:51:28
You gotta money nine nine in an interesting.
00:51:33
So now let's do the Patriots Patriots scheduled.
00:51:36
Let's look at the Patriots.
00:51:39
Remember Joe, you said five wins.
00:51:42
They did.
00:51:43
I did before.
00:51:48
All right.
00:51:49
There a worst team now, remember, That's what we're changing the narrative.
00:51:55
They start they start their season host in Miami.
00:51:58
God, Lawrence? Yeah, that they win that, then they go to Seattle.
00:52:09
That will be a loss.
00:52:16
Lawrence, I think this is really upset.
00:52:23
Um, interesting.
00:52:24
Look, atyou? I don't know, man.
00:52:27
Seahawks are They're gonna hole.
00:52:29
I know, I know, But, uh, then they got Las Vegas at home.
00:52:38
I think this one I do give I edge to the patriots now, probably before I would have given it to the right.
00:52:44
I have.
00:52:45
This is the patriots lost before Cam Newton.
00:52:47
Lawrence.
00:52:49
They win this game.
00:52:51
Okay.
00:52:52
Yeah, because I remember you had the Patriots starting or one and four.
00:52:56
Ah, Seattle Like then they go to Kansas City.
00:53:00
Oh, yeah.
00:53:01
Take the L there, Lawrence.
00:53:05
The, uh I think.
00:53:08
Oh, I am.
00:53:14
I really like Lawrence today.
00:53:17
That this is even a consideration is pretty high.
00:53:22
It really depends because this is a game where can Could little up, like on the ground.
00:53:31
That's true.
00:53:32
He could run on on that Kansas City defense.
00:53:35
Could I just don't see it.
00:53:37
I don't see how it happens.
00:53:40
I mean, if you want to get in the wind, Lawrence, I'll take it.
00:53:43
You can get I.
00:53:44
I know that.
00:53:45
That's probably what you want to do.
00:53:47
No, this wouldn't be a Bill Belichick does not play for ties.
00:53:50
It's got to make a decision.
00:53:51
Will run out of time.
00:53:52
I'm sorry.
00:53:53
Let's let's.
00:53:55
Either way, I don't care.
00:53:57
Let's give him Let's give them win.
00:53:59
Screwed the Patriots.
00:54:01
Yeah, Jesus, right then they're hosting Denver.
00:54:05
I think that's a dub for the Pats.
00:54:07
I think that Drew Lock is gonna struggle against that defense.
00:54:11
And, uh, Patriot should be able to put up enough points.
00:54:15
I think that Denver defense actually heard something to Cam in this game.
00:54:18
I think Denver comes in and upsets.
00:54:20
And how weird is that? That they go beat Kansas City and then Denberg? Jimmy G.
00:54:28
Comes home? Oh yeah, The Retribution game.
00:54:33
I had the Patriots winning this game before Cam Newton.
00:54:37
I got I got the Patriots won in the skin, and that's no disrespect of San Francisco.
00:54:42
I just it's it's hard to play Gillette.
00:54:44
It's even harder when you're trying to get revenge.
00:54:47
And you got Kyle Shanahan, who's been embarrassed by the Patriots.
00:54:50
Jimmy JIA is mad at the Patriots, and I just think that this is gonna be a bill ballot check type of game.
00:54:55
He also knows Jimmy Garoppolo inside a note.
00:54:59
I hear you guys, but I'm going to go with 40 Niners anyway.
00:55:03
Uh, fair enough, then there at Buffalo, which Joe and I have a sweet and Lawrence, you have them splitting right by Adam splitting.
00:55:15
And then we all have them sweeping New York.
00:55:17
That's well, yeah, New York sweat.
00:55:21
Okay.
00:55:22
And then Baltimore threat.
00:55:26
Say it in New ing.
00:55:28
Oh, you're giving him a loss? Uh, no.
00:55:33
Yeah.
00:55:34
Um, I think Baltimore still wins in a prime time at Gillette Stadium.
00:55:38
You gotta be then there at Houston.
00:55:43
Interesting.
00:55:44
I'm actually curious to see what you guys have to say about this game because you guys were pretty ill Texans.
00:55:50
I've been trying.
00:55:51
I've been trying to keep my opinion to myself as I go through this, but I'm even the Patriots lost in this game.
00:55:55
I still got Houston in this game, but now I'm convinced my Lawrence's face is convinced me otherwise.
00:56:04
No.
00:56:05
You know what? This is the thing, right? Like I said, there's a floor.
00:56:08
And in order for the Patriots to really do something, gotta beat one of these big teams.
00:56:11
Kansas City, Houston, Baltimore, you what? I mean, that's what I said.
00:56:15
And I've already got him beaten. Kansas City.
00:56:21
I know you do, but I don't.
00:56:23
I know.
00:56:24
I think they'd be.
00:56:25
I think they beat the Texans to.
00:56:26
I'm gonna give him.
00:56:27
I'm in.
00:56:29
Ah, even even in an NRG stadium.
00:56:31
I'm gonna give him the taxes because I don't.
00:56:33
I think that's the only big game that they have a chance to win.
00:56:37
I'm gonna give it to the Pats.
00:56:39
I don't like.
00:56:41
I think I think New England is one of the few teams in the NFL that has enough debts, that corner to be able to handle all the receivers.
00:56:49
CrossFit.
00:56:51
Then they're hosting Arizona, and I know that you got it's going to the first time Kyler Murray sees a Patriots defense.
00:56:59
I think Bill Belichick is like 100 in winds to two losses to young quarterbacks.
00:57:05
He's special.
00:57:06
He's not Lamar Jackson.
00:57:08
I'm going to give the pages to win this game.
00:57:10
Even though I love Kyla Murray.
00:57:12
I think I believe I had the Patriots win in this game.
00:57:15
PRI candidate as well.
00:57:17
So did I.
00:57:20
I think you have them losing pre pre camps that I know you had them winning pre camp.
00:57:25
Joe had them had this kind of Marie cause that's when he started his N v p.
00:57:28
So this was his breakout game.
00:57:29
Is it still his breakout game? I think he's gonna be well, it could technically be his breakout game, but I think it's more so gonna be that he's just a force, an unstoppable force at this point in the season.
00:57:41
And the Patriots are gonna be the next victim.
00:57:43
Kyle.
00:57:44
So 5 10 Kyler Murray as they call.
00:57:46
All right, So you're given the pages loss direct.
00:57:49
Then they travel to the West Coast for back to back games against the Rams and the Chargers.
00:57:55
Lawrence, you of them splitting right against the Rams against the Rams and then against the Chargers, both in L A.
00:58:05
Oh, yeah, yeah, they they beat the Chargers and lose to the Rams.
00:58:11
Yeah, I remember you hadn't split him.
00:58:15
Ah, I'm actually gonna do the other way around.
00:58:19
I have a feeling Belichick has McVeigh's number, but I think the Chargers could find a way to beat Cam Newton and that renegade.
00:58:28
I haven't splitting as well, but I have them, Ah, losing of the Chargers and beating the Rams.
00:58:35
And then they go to Miami.
00:58:39
They don't always do so well in Miami.
00:58:42
No, they don't.
00:58:44
This is this is one of those weird situations were Miami.
00:58:47
For some reason, I thank spying on the Patriots tough, especially at the end of the season.
00:58:54
So I have.
00:58:55
This is the Patriots Onley divisional loss of the year.
00:58:59
Any kid I got him, I got him losing the Miami to all right.
00:59:02
Weird that we say that.
00:59:03
And then they're hosting Buffalo.
00:59:05
So that's all of us with wind.
00:59:08
And then they're, well, they're going to beat the judge.
00:59:10
January 3rd. Correct.
00:59:13
All right.
00:59:14
So I gave him quite a few wins there.
00:59:16
Let's see I did.
00:59:17
I know I gave him a lot of wins.
00:59:20
Joe has the Patriots win in nine games.
00:59:23
There you go.
00:59:26
I have them winning 10 games.
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Cutter weird twelves weighed 123456789 10.
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No, I haven't been in 11 games because I gave me Houston.
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That's why it's different in my original 10.
00:59:40
Just I think, tens the floor and they need to win that Houston game in.
00:59:44
Lawrence has them winning 123456789 10 11 North.
00:59:50
I have 11. We just have different losses.
00:59:52
Way have we have different wind losses.
00:59:54
There you go.
00:59:55
There's a lot of games that could go either way.
00:59:57
Man, in that schedule, they could.
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That's why I said, I think the floors between nine and 10 and then they have to win either.
01:00:05
You know, Seattle, Baltimore, Kansas City, Houston.
01:00:10
Something has to go right, and they have to win one of those games.
01:00:14
But, I mean, considering that we have the Bills winning seven games, that pretty much wraps up the East.
01:00:17
No matter who wins, I think, say, and I know you have a morning nine, but the pages went in 11 so we all got the page.
01:00:24
It's winning the A F C East this year.
01:00:26
Well, what's weird is what's going to be difficult for other teams that's playing against what they normally play against New England.
01:00:34
They're gonna have to throw that completely out that book completely out the door and come up with a whole new game plan against him.
01:00:39
Because you can't play Cam Newton like you played Tom Brady because it's a completely different team.
01:00:46
Sure is.
01:00:47
And I also think it says a lot.
01:00:48
The fact that Cam Newton took, you know, so such little money.
01:00:53
I think that he just wants to go out there and prove people wrong men.
01:00:56
And that could be the interests that I made that exact same point.
01:01:00
I think so too well.
01:01:01
And, yeah, he's playing with a trip on the shoulder, and I think I don't know if I said it on my own individual stream or if I did it with Lawrence.
01:01:07
But I said, You know, nobody plays better in New England in a player with a chip on their shoulder.
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Doesn't matter who it is.
01:01:13
You what I mean.
01:01:14
And I'm sure that Cam's locker already has articles about him being a bum and all this already taped up in his locker just to remind them when he comes in.
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Gentlemen, can I ask one question again.
01:01:26
Did anyone here besides me see the video Cam Newton put out while he was drenching sweat on the treadmill on the treadmill? I did.
01:01:34
Where he saluted Carolina.
01:01:36
Yeah, and but you still And he says, I have no hard feelings, but you could see the fire in his eyes.
01:01:41
Still, even as he's saying there's no hard feelings, Well, yeah, he went on his instagram post.
01:01:45
They gave up on you or whatever, right? He feels disrespected.
01:01:49
I trust me.
01:01:50
He feels disrespected that he took the veterans minimum, you know, And But I think that that's why balletic made the incentive so high.
01:01:57
If you think you're this guy, you mean because that's a what That 6.
01:02:01
5 $1,000,000 in incentives like that's what is going for a quarterback if he is, you know it is.
01:02:08
And I think that's why I've never seen ballot check make Ah, contract that heavy and laden.
01:02:13
So I think that was like, Oh, if you say who you are, there it is, son.
01:02:16
You mean go.
01:02:17
And this is this is his chance to be part of another great, you know, part of a great team, you know, even though he's taking a low, a low ball offer, really, he's trying out to be, you know, to lead a team to go to the Super Bowl multiple times.
01:02:33
You know, that's what he's doing.
01:02:35
And he didn't have that opportunity in Carolina or sign a big fat contract in Warren's next year.
01:02:40
Right? We have your breeze retires.
01:02:42
All right, gentlemen, we've got an hour in two minutes.
01:02:45
My wife wants to restart the WiFi, and I got another podcast to do it. Nine.
01:02:49
So I think it's time we call it up.
01:02:50
I only scream to Joe once today.
01:02:52
So it wasn't that great.
01:02:53
Wasn't that great of a show? I'll say some more outlandish things, gentlemen, is always It's always a pleasure being on here with you guys.
01:03:03
Lawrence.
01:03:04
How How can they find us? Like if they want to see us every single day, what do they have to do? Oh, man.
01:03:09
They've got to go to SportsCastr and give us a follow.
01:03:12
Right? They go like this video.
01:03:14
Give us a follow in.
01:03:15
If you can't follow or join in the live chat that's over here on the box things you don't have a profile made. Joe.
01:03:23
How did they make a profile? Listen, you just go up there to the top right quarter and you could sign in with your Twitter, your Facebook, your email.
01:03:32
It's super easy, right? It takes literally, what, 10 seconds? If you want to put a profile picture like you guys said it, maybe it takes like 2025 seconds.
01:03:41
It's really easy, guys.
01:03:42
It's just come up.
01:03:44
You know, just come on The New Yorker now, Yeah, it's easy is all.
01:03:50
The California's an actress from California, where all actors are really gentle.
01:03:55
My name is Ray about that is Joe New Beau, that is Lawrence O.
01:03:58
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01:04:00
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01:04:02
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01:04:03
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01:04:13
We will see its moral gentlemen as always.
01:04:15
See a later good one

Mike Tolbert reveals what players have said about Bill Belichick’s opinion of Cam Newton

Mike Tolbert was a running back in the NFL from 2008 until 2017. Of those 10 years, he spent the first four with the San Diego Chargers. After that, he spent five years with the Carolina Panthers, then one final year with the Buffalo Bills, including playing five years with New England Patriots quarterback Cam […]

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Maybe she sing the national anthem in case we are live.
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What's one? Yours? Yours? What's morals, candidate? Okay. All right.
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Okay.
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What's going on? Everybody? This is Ray route and I'm with my partners in crime Joe, New Beau and Lawrence O in.
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And we are here to rap about football here on SportsCastr news.
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You know what it is, gentlemen? How are you? I mean, you know, surviving.
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Let me just say, Let me just say this, OK? As a Ravens fan, I am sick of the Patriots being in the playoff picture, and now I'm afraid that they're in it again.
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And I don't like that at all.
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I do not like that at all.
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I have been on cloud nine since Saturday, man.
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Absolute cloud nine Lourdes, you with us or you just stated really, really looks frozen.
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My internet losing went live.
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Dude, my internet just went off on off, on off, your perfect.
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So no, we were just We decide, like, 15 minutes of off air conversation.
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Yeah, And then as soon as you go live, I just sat there and watched my, my, uh You know you have the little TV screen for your land, and then when you're disconnected, you have, like, the worst.
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Why, Yeah.
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Oh, boy, this is Bs.
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All right.
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So today, guys, uh, Internet issues ****ed off Raven fans, and we are wrapping and chatting about number one.
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Number one, number one on the New England Patriots.
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Mr. Cam Newton.
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Now, a lot of Patriot fans have been been on having been on board with this signings of looks like a bit of a 50 50 split amongst Patriot fans.
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I, for one, as a Patriot fan and ecstatic.
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I mean, Lawrence and I, we talked about it yesterday here on SC News, and I was just giddy just chatting about it.
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I I used up like, five gigabytes of data just so we could talk about Cam Newton.
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But Mike put on like old Bert, who was a running back in 2018 to 2017 played for I believe the Chargers played a year with the Buffalo Bills, played a bunch of years with the Carolina Panthers.
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I think five years with them well, he came out today and said that he has personally heard Bilbao checks opinion on brand new quarterback Mr Cameron Newton, saying Quote, I've been around during games.
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When Bill Belichick is flat out, said to Cam, he loves his game.
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Continue what he's doing.
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I know some of the players on the Patriots personally, and they have all raved about how Bills always praising Cam for his ability.
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I really only thought he had two legitimate landing spots that was New England in Chicago, and I didn't think that Chicago was willing to admit that they were wrong with that.
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Mitch True biscuit e ****.
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Which that one made me giggle.
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It actually said ****.
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It actually said, ****, I like it, which allowed me to swear on the air, right, because I was just reported.
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I am a reporter.
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I am a professional and a Tom Brady jersey.
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But look, so cams with the Patriots.
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Ah, we have not been able to be on all together to discuss this move since Saturday.
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In fact, I figured out today I think it's been exactly a week since the last time all three of us were together, as it I had to bail.
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Then Lawrence got sick, and then I was off for the weekend for an extended long weekend.
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And I don't know what the hell happened with you guys last night.
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All Lawrence had a roof for and you were, you know, your every that son.
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There's no proof of it.
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There's no proof of it.
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So it's our first time in a week coming together.
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So we're here to talk about Cam Newton to the Patriots.
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Lawrence has given his public opinion.
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I give in mind we haven't heard Joe's public opinion, and I believe I know Joe's public opinion.
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But he's gonna be purposely be a ******* today and be combatant.
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So, Joe, why don't you take it away? Give your opinion on Cam Newton and the Patriots.
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Now? One thing that warrants and I discussed yesterday that we like I'd like to get your opinion on his well is I won't tell you what we said.
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We'll see if you actually watch what he said.
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But we'll give our opinions after, But do you believe that the 2020 Patriots with Cam Newton will be better than the 2019 Patriots with Tom Brady? No, no, they were 12 and four, but before we get into all that, I have to get this out.
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You I m f e a Whole bees just don't know when to die, right? You're like the ****roaches of the NFL.
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The Patriots just don't die.
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Oh, I remember a few years ago, Tom Brady's gonna be suspended for the 1st 4 games of the season they're gonna go on for and then they're not gonna make the playoffs.
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Oh, no, They won, like three games.
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Still, because they have Bill Belichick and the Patriots are the Patriots.
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Um oh, they still went 11 and five without Tom Brady when he got injured for the season.
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The Patriots don't know how to die, and I am sick of it.
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All right, that's out of my system.
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But no, I don't think that they're gonna be better than last year.
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I don't I actually have them peg and again, like we said, there's out there in the ether somewhere.
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I don't know where.
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So I don't know if somebody has seen it, probably only myself.
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There is a 26 minute stream where I gave my opinion on Cam Newton and the Patriots, but I have to give it again because that doesn't obviously exist anymore.
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So anyway, I think this makes them a nine win t, which is still good.
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And I actually think that's good enough to win the A F c East.
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Because as you guys know, I am not high on the Buffalo Bills.
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And if you ask me to, I can give your reasons why. I'm sure.
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You know, the viewers would love to hear that, and I'm sure our boss, Nick, would also enjoy hearing that as well.
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But Cam Newton, Patriots? I have more faith in Cam Newton that Jared Stadium leading the Patriots for sure.
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No doubt this to meet changes the Patriots dynamic from maybe a 6 to 7 to eight win team.
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If everything goes great with Jared stem to possibly, you know, 8 to 9.
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And if and if Cam Newton can play amazing, a 10 win team and probably a playoff spot.
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That's how I feel that this signing, you know, the effect it'll have on this year's Patriots.
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But, no, they won't be better than last year because I don't see them getting 12 wins.
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Okay, so did the Patriots win 12 games last year because they had Tom Brady? Not necessarily Or did the Patriots win 10 gate 12 games last year because they had the number one ranked defense, the number two ranked special teams? How about there the 1st 8 games of the season, where against cupcake teams in our and they had the benefit of a schedule? So I see.
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See, this is it.
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And this has been the argument amongst Patriot fans, and this is I.
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I told you guys, I have a super special comparison to make and I'm gonna make it.
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Now I've heard Patriot fans talk to me about Cam Newton's winning percentage.
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I've heard Cam Newton's interception receptive his completion percentage.
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You know, all this kind of junk.
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Ola, can we turn around and say that every game that every team wins is because of the quarterback? You can't Not always, Not ever.
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You have to win as a team 22 people.
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You have to play defense.
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You have to play offense.
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You have to play special teams, three phases of the games for a reason.
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So But when we look at personal stats and you start throwing at me winning percentages and this and that, okay, can we remind people that Cam Newton played for the Carolina Panthers and Tom Brady played for the New England Patriots.
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All while you know, Ray, you're gonna try to make that argument.
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But there's no fair comparison, but ha ha there is.
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So let's look a 2018 for Cam Newton, because I was his last sort of full season.
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He played 14 games, right? Well compared to Tom Brady's 2019 season, the Carolina Panthers offensive lines.
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I know a lot of people are going to turn around and say, Tom Brady had no help from the offensive line.
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Last year was beat up.
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Well, Tom Brady's offensive line was rated 18th in the NFL with an 83% 83% protection rates.
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Okay, Not great for a Patriots team in 2018.
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The Carolina Panthers protection or line protection was 18th in the league at an 81.
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9% protection rate.
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So Tom Brady had a better offensive line last year, then can do on dead in 2018.
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And you got to use 2018 cause that's the last time he was actually healthy. Correct.
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Tom Brady threw for 4057 yards cam through for 3395 yards.
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Let's not forget Cam Newton added on some rushing totals that Tom Brady did not Brown 500.
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I'll get there in a second.
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Tom Brady last year carried the ball 26 times for 34 yards.
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Cam Newton ran at 101 for 448.
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So when you add those all together, their overall stats are pretty comparable from a yardage yards gained percentage.
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But here was the big one, so we know they are.
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So then they're going to turn around and go all well, Tom Brady's supporting cast wasn't great last year, and it wasn't it was ranked 17th in the NFL.
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Okay, I thought, Well, maybe I got that wrong.
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Yes, 17th in the NFL.
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Cam did have a bit of an advantage of being rated 14th in the NFL the year before, so three spots up, but still pretty close in comparison.
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No top 10 offense, either.
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Which way here was the big piece.
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Man under pressure.
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Tom Brady completed 28.
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4% of his passes, ranking him 29th in the NFL.
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Now Tom Brady's not a scrambler that shouldn't be expected.
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You know, no quarterback should be expected to throw under pressure while in a clean pocket.
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How about a 68.
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4% completion percentage ranking him 32nd in the NFL.
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How about being 27th and red zone completion 28th and play action? And how about having a true completion percentage of 66%? Okay.
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60 play diary.
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That right. 66 Professor.
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True. Completion.
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Percentage of 66%.
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Cam Newton was fifth in the NFL under pressure in 2018 completing 47.
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1% of his passes while under pressure.
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Unfortunately, 2018 they were not, um, Count.
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They were not recording the clean pocket percentage, but Cam Newton had a true completion percentage.
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You guys wanna guess what it was? No.
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74.
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8% raking him fifth in the NFL.
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Impressive.
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So when we compare these numbers and I'm gonna get I'm wearing the man's jersey, I'm going to get hung from a lamppost upside down if I visit New England.
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But if you look at those numbers, if all Cam Newton does is repeat 2018 not get better.
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But repeat what happened in 2018 under what will be better cir***stances for him in New England? Concerned if the offensive line stays the way it is right now? With David Andrews back and not out for the year? If Isaiah Wind can stay healthy, they re signed Joe Tooni.
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The offensive line should be greatly improved.
00:12:47
How is Cam Newton? Not an improvement over Tom Brady and the way those numbers panned out last year? So what do you think your ceiling for wins is, then, Ted.
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Our ceiling.
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Yeah, I think our floor is 9 to 10.
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I did it today and I had it.
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I had a lot of Flora 10 When I went through, I had us losing the Baltimore I had us losing to Kansas City.
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Um, I think I gave the game to Houston.
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I can't remember the other games, but I had I just I had a 10 floor where that should be a minimum of 10 wins, and if everything can go right because when you get past that guarantee, everything has to go right.
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Everything go right.
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You know, Lamarque and having off game or, you know, whatever Patrick Marv's armed falls off or something.
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You know, I mean, then they can start going up from there.
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But I had I now have them beating the Raiders, which I didn't before.
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I now have them beating the Broncos, which I didn't before.
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I've always had them beating San Francisco because I just saw jittery G was gonna choke coming home.
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Um, I don't have the schedule in front, and I can't remember what I picked right now, but I have them losing to the teams that everybody's gonna lose to.
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You mean Baltimore came to city? Ah, couple other teams.
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I just Seattle, you know? I mean, I have them losing to Seattle.
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I turned games around.
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I had them splitting in Los Angeles.
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I had him beating the Chargers and losing to the Rams.
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I now haven't we now have them beating the Rams? Interesting.
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Yeah.
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So when I have the Chargers beating the Patriots, regardless of having Cam Newton or not because of that defense, listen, what are you going to do if you're run game gets shut down? And don't tell me it's not possible because it's possible it happened to the Ravens am.
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Then Cam Newton is gonna throw the ball to join 1 may be doing.
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Maybe Julian Edelman, who at 1000 yards who's had back to back to back to back to back seasons and drops last year you did.
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Mohammed Sunu is Mohammed.
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Sunu is healthy.
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Good receiver and get number two and number one.
00:14:52
All right, Joe.
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Joe, let me bring this back to you.
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What did you have the Ravens going last year? Did you have Lamar Jackson? When an MP And don't bull**** me and tell me you didn't or you did great.
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You probably had the Ravens winning eight games because Lamar Jackson looked like a pile of crap against the Chargers.
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An absolute pile of crap against the Chargers.
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And I thought, Maybe this kid doesn't have it.
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And then he came around and he blew up.
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So, you know, when we talked about these kind of things Julian Edelman has, I think, four seasons in a row now with 1000 yards and receiving.
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So let's not pretend like he's some slug.
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That's just coming off the bench of that one good kind of year for the Patriots.
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I'm just pulling up.
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It starts right now.
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I mean, that's just like That's where you raven fans get a little disrespectful.
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Read. Dismissed.
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Everything you know.
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I mean, it's just like 1000 yards, 8 50,000 yards, you know, like 1000 yard 1000 yards.
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It's the guy inside, you know? Anyways, all relax on that.
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All right, all relax on that.
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I want here.
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Well, Lawrence says to say, you may know that the law laid down the law.
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All right, First off, I have a question for both of you.
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Canteen Legitimately.
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Be better one year than the other.
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And yet win less games.
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100% Joe.
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Well, what do you want? Live better when you say better.
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What better? Better, completely.
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All the way around.
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They are better.
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Teoh looks pretty.
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Lose less games in the room is over.
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Over gritty wins.
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I would take a pretty win over.
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I don't want a pretty loss.
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I'm sorry.
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Hold him.
00:16:31
You know what he means is, is two years ago or three years ago, when the Patriots played a Ben Roethlisberger pits or a Ben Roethlisberger less Pittsburgh when we seem to go up against every injured quarterback in the league and played every backup quarterback in the league and one games by seven points.
00:16:51
And then I think that was 2000 and 15 and then we get exposed.
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The offense gets completely exposed against Denver in the A F C championship game.
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Come back in 2016.
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Brady, Mrs Four games.
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They're still scoring points, and then they're scoring points like will in 2016.
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I think that's what he means.
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And I think their record was better in 2015 that it wasn't 2016 yet.
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They have, but they played way better.
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How many times have you watched the game, baby? Not last year's guys on 13 wins.
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You won't have a lot of it, but haven't Did you watch the game when you're just like, How did the Ravens lose that game like they were the better team? One fumble, one, this one play one that my guys you don't expect you can lose the game.
00:17:31
Um, you have teams like Look at the Patriots.
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What if the Patriots had this schedule last year? Do they win 12 games if they don't have the 1st 8 games of the year? Is a pancake schedule not a chance, right, baby? A baby A nine win team at the most.
00:17:47
So that's what he's getting that you can put.
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Teams confine themselves in positions.
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I don't think it's a grind out game.
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It's You just happen to have a schedule where you know, Baltimore has to play Kansas City and this team in that team and, you know, every top team in the league.
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And somehow, you know, the Colts get to play every bottom feeder, you know, and they win 14 games and they look like the best team.
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But they're not really the best team because they were with their schedule, dictated them being the best team.
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That's one of the big points that I'm getting that you yourself, Joe said.
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They went through the first half of the season last year against some of the most biggest cupcake teams that they could possibly go, and then they started getting exposed to second half of the season.
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If Tom Brady was on the Patriots this season this season, would they win 12 games? This isn't no the way, but it's the same team they had last year.
00:18:38
Yeah, so they should win the same amount, right? No, not necessarily because the schedules did you know, the schedule suffer? Yeah, Much tougher.
00:18:47
So, legitimately, the Patriots could be a better team this year and still lose more games, then last year.
00:18:56
Okay, I hear you.
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Right, Right.
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Okay.
00:19:00
I say can makes this team of better team than what the Patriots were last year with Tom Brady.
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But I think that they will lose less games.
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Not a whole lot less.
00:19:13
I think they're floor.
00:19:14
I'm not quite as high as Ray is.
00:19:17
I love Cam Newton here.
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I love the situation, but the fact of the matter is that his first year there, it's gonna take him time to get used to being there, take time to get used to the players.
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Because just the playbook, everything.
00:19:30
But I still think it evens out.
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I think they think they're floors more around nine wins rather than 10.
00:19:36
All right, I think they will, uh, push buffalo for the division.
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I think it will be a fight between the two teams.
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Whereas before I did not have.
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It s a fight for the further division.
00:19:48
I had Buffalo winning this out.
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Running away.
00:19:51
Yeah, pretty much.
00:19:53
Um, let me let me ask you that guys this.
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Who do you think was better? The 2019 Bills or the 2019 Patriots Bills won 10 games.
00:20:05
Patriots won 12.
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I think the bill sent the better roster overall, if you're told we're all I think over as an overall, Sure, I would take the Bills.
00:20:15
Obviously, New England Bills had a really good defense and running game and a good running game, and they had receivers.
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And one with this year, Josh Allen is actually a decent quarterback If he could just get a few things squared away of Josh Allenby.
00:20:31
Debatable, Josh Allen figures If Josh Allen figures it out and becomes a Top 10 quarterback, it's Buffalo become, ah, perennial Super Bowl contender, of course, but that's if right, yeah, yeah, that's telling.
00:20:45
If that's that's the if, that's I think the Bills right now are silver better overall team that the Patriots but all the burger.
00:20:53
But you asked about 2019 Lawrence, and yes, I think that a team can have last winds of more wins would be a better team yada, yada, yada.
00:21:02
But I will argue that when a team is owing to two other said team It's hard to argue that they were the better team, right? The Buffalo, what? I had 12 wins that they would have beat the Patriots wasn't about wins.
00:21:15
That's what we just got done saying what? We're going head to head when we're talking about head to head matchups.
00:21:20
When you're talking about a team that went owing to you know what I mean to a team to turn around and say, Yeah, that was the better team when they beat the same pancakes that we beat because we're basically in the same schedule.
00:21:30
They didn't have to play the Chiefs Imagine if they get replaced one of their games to the Chiefs, one of their games toe.
00:21:36
Uh, Baltimore.
00:21:38
You don't know that they play Baltimore.
00:21:39
Last year, we played the division.
00:21:41
That's your right.
00:21:42
But, you know, they had we to play division winners, right? They didn't have to play.
00:21:45
Houston didn't have to play Kansas City, Um, and the and they were owing to to the Patriots on the road and at home.
00:21:52
So where divisional games are supposed to be split, so it's Ah, you know, that's where all arguing, we're starting to go head to head with wins.
00:22:01
It's, you know, if I won't say, Hey, you know this player is better than that player because it's a team I hate You can't say if Patch If Lamar Jackson goes and beats Patrick Mahomes this year, you can't turn around and say, Lamar Jackson's a better quarterback to Patrick Mahomes because he beat Patrick Mahomes.
00:22:21
The that argument is stupid.
00:22:23
Not that you can make an argument.
00:22:24
Who's better? What I'm saying.
00:22:25
It's a stupid argument in the sense of it's a team game.
00:22:29
You what? I mean, it's a team game and things happen that unless Lamar Jackson is playing offense and defense and you don't mean and Lamar Jackson is playing or Ah, Patrick Mahomes playing offense or defense, I don't think you can compare who is the better quarterback.
00:22:44
Bye bye bye stats, because I think Dan Marino was better than half the guys who won the Super Bowl in his era.
00:22:50
He just played for a really crappy team, right? But when it comes to a team, I mean when a team loses two games in the season to the to the same team, that's when you can look at a head to head victory.
00:23:00
Also, I want to say when you say, Does you know who's he gonna throw to? He'll throw to the same players there were.
00:23:10
There were times I went back and watched my own review of Tom Brady.
00:23:16
There were times, many times, multiple times on just about every play where he either got factoring that throwing the football away where he had the football at least three seconds where there was a receiver that was open for at least one second.
00:23:30
But he didn't throw the football because he knew he didn't have the arm strength to get there in time where Cam Newton does.
00:23:36
Cam Newton will be able to throw that football when there's just a small window when they're open.
00:23:42
Whereas Tom Brady just didn't have the arm strength to get there in time before the defender would get there, you know, so I think Cam opens up more opportunities for this offense.
00:23:52
That what Tom Brady, Tom Brady? I think right now Cam's better for New England than what Tom Brady is just just by skill sets standpoints because he because doing one doesn't have and I'll be I agree with you.
00:24:11
You know their weapons right now.
00:24:13
At least last year they hold on and let me let me jump in on that, too, because we keep comparing the last year's weapons.
00:24:20
What always amazes me when I argue with other and it's not just you guys, it's everybody, right? But when I have arguments with other teams fans, your rookies are going to perform right.
00:24:34
We got this guy we got.
00:24:35
Doctor told this guy we got in the fourth round.
00:24:38
Trust me, he's We got two brand new tight ends coming into our system this year.
00:24:42
We had the worst tight and core in the NFL last year.
00:24:46
You know, the worst.
00:24:48
We've got this guy Dalton Keen who? The reason ballot checked are drafted him because his skill set reminded him of Aaron Hernandez and how much he moves around the field.
00:25:00
See, people want to talk about we Look, look, when you kill Harry did last year, okay? When did Aussie Aussie due for the Patriots last year? What did Keane do for the Patriots last year? Well, while they're rookies, you know, you know you can't count. Well, hold on.
00:25:11
You just told me how this guy you got in the second round is going to do this for you.
00:25:16
This guy you got in the fourth round is going to do this for you from year to year, as you have new guys.
00:25:23
Look, this is another miracle one.
00:25:26
If Marqise Lee is actually healthy, as he says he is, and he's doesn't get injured again.
00:25:31
And he goes back to the 2017 2016 guy that's getting 700 yards and and burning things.
00:25:36
That's another guy.
00:25:37
If Mohammed Sunu, as he claims, it was really his ankle, that was really the big problem last year.
00:25:43
He's going to be a different player this year when he comes to pay.
00:25:46
I mean, Joe, he torched your Ravens.
00:25:50
Costa New? Yeah.
00:25:53
Did you see? Did you see a starts? 120 yards? I mean, tell me where.
00:26:00
What's that? Well, I mean, I mean, hundreds, one of yards.
00:26:04
That's not Ah, that's not, um I don't know if Gilmore gave up 120 yards, I'd be ****ed at him.
00:26:12
Yeah, um I mean, and then he heard his.
00:26:15
But he also hurt his ankle.
00:26:16
That game and the guy was never the freak insane after he hurt his ankle.
00:26:22
Why did they give me the 2018 demon trying to pull up his exact stats here? More bonus game? Mohammed.
00:26:29
I remember it because it was so insignificant because the Ravens were just running all over that Patriots defense.
00:26:35
Yeah, you're also one of the biggest homers I know.
00:26:38
So it's 00 no.
00:26:40
I've never met you.
00:26:41
Somebody who just your team is absolutely perfect.
00:26:45
They're not sooner.
00:26:46
You I've never heard you criticize the team.
00:26:48
One time.
00:26:49
14 to 1 time.
00:26:52
You haven't met many Kansas City.
00:26:54
Oh, yeah, the more they their they're pretty.
00:26:59
The meetings. You can't tell him anything.
00:27:01
I am at least open to different possibilities.
00:27:03
Well, we lost another fan base rather not have to fence.
00:27:09
So no, uh, Kansas City is a great team.
00:27:12
I'm not going tonight that I mean, I got some pants that I get along with, but there's a lot of them that are most of them yet.
00:27:24
I'm not I don't know.
00:27:25
I Yeah, I just know what ends up on my on my posts and stuff.
00:27:32
Um, but no rookies.
00:27:37
Honestly, you can't look it up.
00:27:39
Skill players unless there are running back like wide receivers.
00:27:43
As a rookie, you can't expect more than 700 yards from them more than because that's that's generally you don't get that much out of out of a rookie wide receiver because it's so much to learn as a wide receiver coming into the last time, 1/4 round Ricky tight ends had a amazing season, either 1/3 round or 1/4 or third round yet 00 well, Mark Andrews had Aaron Hernandez lots them.
00:28:12
There's lots of players tight end fight in canoe, really good because of the simple fact that they're overlooked on the defense.
00:28:19
Listen, the Patriots tight end's last year averaged, I think, totaled altogether, like 137 yards of total offense.
00:28:28
That was, that was an issue.
00:28:30
I'm not even lying to you guys.
00:28:32
You want to know how are tight ends did against the Ravens last year? Four catches for 28 yards? What was their run blocking ability? Awful looking awful.
00:28:43
Everything was awful.
00:28:45
That's why we got Ozzie Ozzie to open up the run game because he blocks like Gronk, that his blocking schemes like Gronk Keen is like Hernandez.
00:28:53
You what? I mean, it's the tight at the Patriots tight end's I'm trying to find Lets You guys was one here.
00:28:59
Freaking amazing.
00:29:00
Stats.
00:29:01
Oh, God, what a what a season Ben Watson had.
00:29:05
Oh, what a season Ben Watson on.
00:29:09
How old is Ben Watson? Used? Seven.
00:29:11
I don't care, but I hear some saying 53.
00:29:14
Ben Watson caught 17 passes for 173 yards.
00:29:20
He was our leading tight end receiver last year.
00:29:22
It was also the most skilled, like most skilled tight.
00:29:26
And then we were his age.
00:29:28
Oh, no, sorry. I apologize.
00:29:30
Matt Lacoste had 13 catches for 131 yards.
00:29:36
So we're up to two.
00:29:38
2 to 60.
00:29:39
And total tight and contribution coming.
00:29:42
Remember, this is a team that average, like 1100 yards in the tight end position for the last 10 years.
00:29:49
But you also had grown to while hold on.
00:29:51
No, we're going back to Ben Watson back in 2000.
00:29:54
Floor.
00:29:55
You know, that way? No, but I'm saying this is a team that has always played around its tight ends, and we had a whole season we couldn't and yet We had grog, but we won 2014.
00:30:07
Gronk played like six games and we won the Super Bowl 64,016 that come back those Martellus Bennett.
00:30:13
We won Super Bowl without Gronk, right? Ah, then Ryan ISO was our third tight end.
00:30:19
Well, I think he had the best season of them all.
00:30:22
Oh, yeah, six catches, 114 yards, one touchdown.
00:30:28
I think he was.
00:30:29
He's the only one that's impressive, actually, for potential eso We had no contribution from the tight end core last year, and it it hurt a team like from a blocking perspective, we lost Dwayne Allen and free agency, which I know, sounds ridiculous.
00:30:51
We lost Dwayne Allen, but he's a blocker Ben couldn't block.
00:30:56
Matt couldn't block.
00:30:57
Christ would put Ryan Innes a full back.
00:31:00
When our both our fullbacks got injured, he couldn't block is a fullback.
00:31:04
I thought I thought the Patriots were like the number one team in the NFL that brought in extra offensive linemen as as eligibles.
00:31:14
Why couldn't they be that Because let's remember that like 1/4 of the offensive line was injured last season, so we didn't have weeded Marshall Newhouse was, are starting left tackle for 10 days.
00:31:26
Speaking of your offensive line, aren't you concerned a little bit about the offensive line and you just lost? What's his name's Skornick with Scar Nicaea or not? You know, I'm not concerned about the offensive line, not concerns.
00:31:38
David Answers had blood clots on his lungs.
00:31:40
It's not like that was Ah, it's ongoing injury.
00:31:44
Are they gonna trade Tooni? Or that's what I heard? I don't know.
00:31:48
But if they trade Tooni, it's gonna be the rumor has been it was going to be to me for Odell.
00:31:52
So now that they've squashed the Odell, I doubt that you're going to see to Niego.
00:31:57
No, I think tunes going to stay on the team because they need him as a guard, right? You know what I mean? Look, this is also a team.
00:32:02
I mean, this is a team that players had to go into different spots because of the injury because Isaiah win got her.
00:32:08
We also had four hold and ah, you stay who were hurt coming out of the draft and they knew they weren't gonna be available coming into this season that they were going for surgery and they needed a year.
00:32:18
That was a mistake on ballot checks part.
00:32:20
You know, you draft a friggin guy.
00:32:22
We brought injury and alumina, or they put him in for three plays.
00:32:26
He let up two sacks and they took him out.
00:32:29
And they re Lazio that they moved to need to the taxi cause to Nikkan play tackle and guard.
00:32:37
Now, to me, the thing was, the year before Tooni and Mason were ranked number one.
00:32:43
Ah, from an ****ytic standpoint, Mason was number one to me was number three.
00:32:48
So they were the best guard tandem in the NFL.
00:32:51
But to Nikon shift.
00:32:52
When when Isaiah win got hurt, they shifted to needs to tackle, brought in alumina to guard.
00:32:59
They put two guys right on, or put a guy right on a luminary, let up two sacks and he was out to me.
00:33:04
Was back at tackle and ah was back.
00:33:07
A guard and then Marshall Newhouse became are starting left tackle.
00:33:10
I think he gave up like 14 quarterback hits and eight tackles.
00:33:15
And so but the line again with four.
00:33:19
With we, the depth of the line is better.
00:33:21
This season.
00:33:22
So I'm less concerned.
00:33:23
Because if we did lose Isaiah Win, which I expect we will because, you know, I don't know, someone blew on him or something.
00:33:29
Um, four holding could use.
00:33:30
They're both available to come in and and be reasonable backups.
00:33:33
And I think new house is still in the team, which kind of scares me a little bit.
00:33:37
He did.
00:33:38
Okay.
00:33:39
Is a rotational guy not as the starter, you know? I mean, when they would rotate him in from time to time, he was fine, you know that.
00:33:44
But when he was the starter Oh, my God.
00:33:47
What a not Germaine Alumina or out on the field.
00:33:50
You know, you're in trouble, like deep, deep trouble.
00:33:53
Believe me, I no Ebola checks screwed up on the depth chart on with the depth last year by taking two tackles who he knew couldn't play you What? I mean, who we knew were going to be injured for the season.
00:34:04
So they're both When they were practicing already before covitz started, they were on the fields already going through full paces, so they should be back.
00:34:12
So, no, I'm not as concerned about the offensive line We also still, you know Yacoub, Beyonce and comes back.
00:34:17
Who was our full back got injured last year. Devlin retired.
00:34:20
What they brought in of Vitale from Green Bay.
00:34:24
No, you're gonna see the Patriots run, But here's the difference.
00:34:26
We can run with our running backs, but we could run with our quarterback.
00:34:30
Well, we've never hope to offense of patriots have never been able to do that, right? I mean, cheeses.
00:34:36
I remember when it was Brady's Chase for 1000 after 18 years.
00:34:42
Yeah.
00:34:43
Listen, Tom Brady and and I know people go all this is sour g****s.
00:34:47
And you know what? I admit? I got a little bit of sour g****s towards Tom Brady, um, in some of his **** in texting his new throwing coach and talking about how he's having fun playing football again because, you know, I'd hate to make millions of dollars and won six championships, but it's no, it sucks.
00:35:03
But, um, you know, it's Ah, Brady has not been the same guy personality wise, And I mean Lawrence, you and I talked about it and I watched your whole film breakdown from a play perspective.
00:35:17
He wasn't the same guys last year, and I know Patriot fans were crying about it.
00:35:21
But if you watch a bunch of my broadcast from last year, I'm like, this has to be Brady's last year in New England.
00:35:26
Like, you know? I mean, it's I just didn't know who the hell they're going to replace him with.
00:35:30
Um, I tried my best to stay positive about Jared Stadium, but I'm jacked about Mr Newton coming into town.
00:35:36
Yeah.
00:35:37
Oh, it's It's not gonna be a terrible season.
00:35:39
Like I was predicting with us as they call him Jared the Javelin.
00:35:44
Right? Have you heard that video? Okay, who's selling them that? Patriots fans know it said some dude on with the show.
00:35:52
First things first, I think with Oh, Jared the chapter javelin.
00:35:57
And now it's all about Cam Newton.
00:35:59
Oh, forget Jared than Chaplin all of a sudden.
00:36:02
Well, I don't get is there is a lot, a lot of people, and I mean ah, lot like the majority of people who commented on my on my stuff When I when I post about my streams on Cam Newton, I don't know, I met the click mute.
00:36:21
There are a lot of people who say they don't think Cam Newton is gonna make the starting job that Jared Stadium will beat him out.
00:36:29
That cam is just there to make sure.
00:36:32
Literally there saying that can that they signed Camden to make sure the Patriots will tank for Trevor.
00:36:40
I kid you not.
00:36:41
And these were Patriot fans posting on my stuff, and I just want I just Oh, my goodness. Gracious.
00:36:50
I was going to share this on my you tube page.
00:36:53
I don't think I can't anymore, but I'm gonna listen.
00:36:59
Uh ah.
00:37:03
It's not all of them, all right? No, I know the handful of them.
00:37:08
Chris Rhino.
00:37:11
Joe.
00:37:12
I know them.
00:37:14
My boy Tyson, who doesn't YouTube page outside of that little core group.
00:37:21
But I didn't name them all, but they know who they are.
00:37:23
Patriots fans air awful there.
00:37:26
Like dude, I walk around all the time saying I hate patriots fans just because some of the dumb s that comes out of their mouth.
00:37:37
You what? I mean, like, it's dude like I'm okay.
00:37:40
Look, people were excited about Jared's dinner.
00:37:43
They were excited about him because the Patriots were going into this season that was different.
00:37:49
Do what? I mean, they're going into this season.
00:37:51
Know Tom Brady.
00:37:52
We got a young guy.
00:37:53
We got Bill Ballot. Jack.
00:37:55
We still got a great defense if the running game opens up because the old line, you know, people were excited to see I don't know if there was a belief instead, um, but I think there was ah hope instead of because if he did turn out to be something Oh, we got another 12 years of, you know, torturing the NFL or whatever, right? I also think there's a big group of people who have never seen the Patriots do anything but win.
00:38:19
You know, if you're born and I.
00:38:21
What I've realized now is people who were born in the year 2000 and two were like, 18 years old.
00:38:27
You and me, like they're actually like turning into adults now, So they've only been in an era where the Patriots have one.
00:38:37
I happen to be from an Arab, which was right before the Patriots got good.
00:38:41
And when I say got good, I mean, like, 1996 in 1997 when Drew Bledsoe brought them to a super Bowl and because I always say Bledsoe was the 1st 1 him in part cells to really turn things around.
00:38:51
And then we had the break Brady, Brady and balance.
00:38:53
That kind of took it to the next level of what they could accomplish.
00:38:57
So I think that they're there.
00:38:58
I think it was more hope, and I think when they see a 31 year old quarterback there like all my God, right, likewise given here instead of a chance.
00:39:06
But I throw it to them this way.
00:39:07
If it works out, let's pretend Cam reverts back to out in 2018 camp.
00:39:13
He's never gonna be 2015 cam ever again, right? I don't Nobody should expect him to come in and be the M V P.
00:39:21
But he's technically in the prime of his career from an age perspective, if he comes in and he is good two.
00:39:28
Very good, Not great, Not excellent.
00:39:30
Not Lamar Jackson, but very good.
00:39:35
We got 100 million salary cap next year, signed him for four years.
00:39:38
You what I mean and that we've got a good starting quarterback for another five years and then if everybody gets what they want because everybody thinks.
00:39:46
And what is it, four years or whatever? When When Aaron Rodgers contract is up, he's going to want to go play with Bill politically.
00:39:52
Let's just keep trolling the league well, you know, let's never get a young quarterback, and then Lamar will be 35 ready and we'll bring No, but it was his next.
00:40:04
But what I'm saying is, if camp turns out to be good and build, dollar check is light Cam Newton for a long time, like we could have a quarterback for our quarterback for the next four or five years, so I don't understand.
00:40:14
And this is such a no risk signing to the Patriots.
00:40:18
It's a $1,000,000 right? If they paid him seven point, if they pay Cam Newton $7.
00:40:23
5 million this year, I'm gonna be bragging about ring number seven.
00:40:28
You mean because he hit every incentive on that? That's a heavy, incentive laden contract.
00:40:35
You mean so it's it's Look, there's I don't understand why Patriot fans aren't more excited about this, because if it doesn't work, it were probably got that we would have got the same thing out of Jared Stadium this year.
00:40:48
If it works, though.
00:40:50
But we're laughing to the bank.
00:40:51
You mean so patriot fence Sock, I want I want you to I want to expand on that whole thought, Lawrence, that you add about that you're not so sure about the bills, you know, being the FCS favorites anymore.
00:41:06
And also, I just want to apologize if I'm sweaty because, like I told the guys, I don't have an a c at all in my house right now, so I'm waiting for the replacement.
00:41:15
So please forgive me from, you know, little drenched in sweat.
00:41:19
But anyway, Lawrence, I think the bills are going seven and nine and I think the Patriots could go 18 8 or nine and seven.
00:41:25
And when the a f c East.
00:41:26
So, what do you think about that? Yeah, I love that face.
00:41:36
I think you completely not really disrespected a f c East.
00:41:39
I know it's a pain.
00:41:40
I know.
00:41:41
It's been legitimately a pancake division for years and years.
00:41:46
Um, I think Miami is doing the right things to rebuild.
00:41:50
Personally, I think I think Miami legitimately is a minimum six win team this year.
00:41:56
No, they're going in the right direction.
00:41:58
They won't see the fruits of their labors and for another two or three years.
00:42:03
But they continue on the pace.
00:42:04
They could be.
00:42:05
Ah, contender in the A f C.
00:42:08
They still have steps to take.
00:42:09
I agree.
00:42:10
Buffaloes in the same situation they are at word Miami wants to be, um, again, it really has to do with Josh Allen.
00:42:20
They have talent all way across the board.
00:42:22
Josh Allen's the talent.
00:42:24
It's just whether or not he could pull this stuff together, right? I mean, that's that's what everybody wants to know.
00:42:30
You talk to Bills fans Josh out the top five quarterback.
00:42:35
I think they should be Super Bowl or bust this year.
00:42:38
The Bills? Oh, I think in that.
00:42:40
Might that mindset.
00:42:41
I think they should be a F C championship or bust.
00:42:45
Um, I like to see him when a divisional playoff game, you know, whether they get in as a wild card or as the division winner.
00:42:58
I think they need to win a divisional playoff game.
00:43:01
And what are not to be considered a bus this season? That's that's my thought process.
00:43:05
They need to get into the A F C championship.
00:43:08
Whether they get if they get to the Super Bowl, then, yeah, that then they're obviously their season.
00:43:12
This is Happy Day, even if they lose in the Super Bowl.
00:43:16
But well, maybe they'd like a win.
00:43:19
You know what I mean? Who wants to go to Tokyo? Lose.
00:43:23
But, I mean, you can't call it a complete failure if they make the Super Bowl for the first time.
00:43:28
By the way, yeah, exactly that.
00:43:32
Now, now they go four years straight to the Super Bowl and lose.
00:43:35
Then I would just forget on I would say, you know, as Buffalo, I want to sell the team because we're yeah style, But no, I think I think Buffalo.
00:43:49
But I still think Buffalo is Ah, 10 win body like Low in 10 win.
00:43:55
I think New England is a nine win low in.
00:43:57
I think it's gonna be a fight between both teams.
00:44:00
I think New England Buffalo.
00:44:01
It really.
00:44:02
I don't think it has anything to do with the fight in their own division.
00:44:06
I think it's gonna have to do with what they're going to do with the tougher teams on their schedule.
00:44:11
you know, all right, right of their own division.
00:44:13
So let's look at the A F C quickly.
00:44:16
We'll go through.
00:44:17
Buffalo.
00:44:18
Schedule will go through the Patriots schedule more, crowned the A F C East Champions way.
00:44:21
Already do buffaloes that will just do it again just to make it easy.
00:44:24
And I don't We didn't write it down.
00:44:25
I think you guys did.
00:44:26
I don't think I was with you and your Buffaloes.
00:44:28
Now, this is one of the assumption we all believe that Miami in New York don't have a chance of winning the FCC's correct or way Don't have one of them.
00:44:36
Okay, let's start with Buffalo.
00:44:40
Week one, New York Jets.
00:44:43
When weight.
00:44:45
Yeah, I don't care their home or away win.
00:44:48
OK, find.
00:44:50
All right, then the next week there at Miami win Atmani that that early in the season to win? Yeah, I think that early in the season it it's gonna be a lot of learning curve.
00:45:05
I think defense will be your biggest, your biggest proponent of the game.
00:45:09
And that's gonna help a lot with Buffalo.
00:45:12
I think Buffalo wins again.
00:45:13
It's not gonna be ready.
00:45:15
Yeah, I've got them is to know as well, and it's gonna be Fitzpatrick play not to.
00:45:19
Uh And then they got the Rams.
00:45:22
I have the Rams winning that one.
00:45:24
Well, actually, you know, You know what? You guys convinced me last time.
00:45:27
Now, I remember when we did this because I said the Rams would beat the bills, but then you're like they're traveling to the East Coast, like, Okay, you're right. Whatever.
00:45:36
Give it to the Give it to the bills.
00:45:38
Maybe we did do the bills.
00:45:39
Did I gotta remember having that conversation now and saying the buffalo got lucky that both West Coast teams air coming to I'm Come on.
00:45:53
Our boss has had us do this like, 15 times way.
00:45:58
Buffalo Bill schedule.
00:45:59
At some point, I just don't know if I wrote it down and I think I was recording it at the time.
00:46:03
I don't have a written down, so we got to go through it.
00:46:06
That's OK, then they go to Vegas.
00:46:09
I have them losing that one from I do as well. Lawrence.
00:46:17
That's odd.
00:46:19
Yeah, well, let's go ahead.
00:46:21
I think buffalo could win it, but they need to have ah, wake up game, and this could be it then there at Tennessee.
00:46:30
I think they stay with their lost momentum and they lose to the Titans.
00:46:36
Lawrence.
00:46:40
I think they lose because of Tennessee's defense and Rebels coaching.
00:46:45
I'm gonna give him a win because I think that you guys way over credit Tennessee.
00:46:49
That's all right.
00:46:51
Then they host Kansas City.
00:46:54
See that game, I think, could be a little closer than you might think.
00:46:57
But I still think the Chiefs are better and they will win.
00:47:00
I think I I agree with you, Joe.
00:47:02
I think that defense could actually put a little bit of pressure on, uh, homes.
00:47:09
But at the same time, Yeah, I think Kansas said he still puts up enough points.
00:47:15
Then they visit the New York Jets Dub unless 3/4 of their team is hurt, which is also possible.
00:47:29
So they give it hold on.
00:47:30
I'm giving them a loss OK against the Jets.
00:47:34
Ah, then they they face New England, and this is not me being a homer because I think I remember saying this before Cam Newton was there.
00:47:43
The Buffalo Bills did not beat the New England Patriots, including Josh Allen it's in their head.
00:47:49
Patriots win that game in Buffalo.
00:47:52
What do you guys say? I say they split him.
00:47:54
You're gonna split him.
00:47:57
I still agree.
00:47:59
I I just don't see them finding a way to beat the Patriots.
00:48:03
I haven't getting swept again.
00:48:06
There's just teams that they're in your head and you can't get through it.
00:48:10
I agree.
00:48:12
But I mean, then they have Seattle Los at verse at home, at home.
00:48:22
It's still a loss for me.
00:48:24
Yeah, I think it could be close, but I was the New England game at home or away at home.
00:48:32
It was at home.
00:48:34
So they're gonna host New England, and they're gonna host Seattle.
00:48:36
Okay, so I must say they win against New England at home.
00:48:39
But then they lose at home against Seattle because of a letdown game.
00:48:42
Okay, then they traveled to Arizona.
00:48:45
L Kyler Murray will be on his M v P campaign in that game.
00:48:53
What's the date now? November 15th.
00:48:58
I'm gonna have to give the game to Arizona's.
00:49:00
Well, I've got the Bills on a five game losing streak.
00:49:04
Yeah, I think so.
00:49:05
So it's a tough, tough t.
00:49:08
I think they beat Arizona? Nothing.
00:49:11
Then they got the Chargers in Buffalo.
00:49:15
Well, to me, they stayed.
00:49:16
They snap there, snap her loose tree.
00:49:18
They they win this game easy.
00:49:20
We'll give it a men.
00:49:22
Men of for West.
00:49:25
No theme going number. Hello.
00:49:27
You said the bills.
00:49:28
We're gonna beat the Cardinals by 10 points.
00:49:31
I remember now.
00:49:32
I said Buffalo wins bites end.
00:49:35
Then they traveled to San Francisco.
00:49:38
That's up.
00:49:39
I bet, too, isn't it? I think that is apply back.
00:49:41
****.
00:49:42
So I had to have written it down somewhere.
00:49:44
All right. I gotta Look, I'll look through the book.
00:49:46
Okay? Then they then they got San Francisco loss loss? Yep.
00:49:53
Oh, my God.
00:49:54
I got my five game losing streak and they win one.
00:49:55
Then they lose again.
00:49:57
Then they host Pittsburgh on a 20 head.
00:50:00
Looks like a prime time game in Buffalo.
00:50:03
They beat, they beat Buffalo.
00:50:05
Are they being expert? I mean, I mean to give him the win just because I give them a lot of losses and they feel like they're gonna win one of the ones I got wrong.
00:50:16
What do you saying, Joe? Just to be nice.
00:50:21
I'll give them the win here.
00:50:23
Then they go to Mile High, where the altitude gets to Josh Allen and that ball travels 50 yards further than they.
00:50:28
Usually they take the loss against Denver.
00:50:32
What do you guys agree? Totally agree that this will be an interesting game because it's too good.
00:50:38
Defense is and potentially to high powered offense is potentially.
00:50:45
But I think one who knows how to play in that altitude and one who doesn't.
00:50:50
I'll give it to Denver, All right.
00:50:53
Then they go to New England and they lose December 28th.
00:50:56
Yeah, correct.
00:50:58
And then they finish off hosting away in in my area.
00:51:02
They face live beating Miami at home.
00:51:04
I think I might have given them a few more wins than I did last time. Let's see.
00:51:08
No, you got him winning seventh.
00:51:10
Okay, so I'm consistent.
00:51:14
Ray's got a winning three.
00:51:16
I got him winning.
00:51:18
I got him winning seven.
00:51:19
While there you go.
00:51:21
Hold on for I'm the only one that's got, like 10 maybe 11.
00:51:28
You gotta money nine nine in an interesting.
00:51:33
So now let's do the Patriots Patriots scheduled.
00:51:36
Let's look at the Patriots.
00:51:39
Remember Joe, you said five wins.
00:51:42
They did.
00:51:43
I did before.
00:51:48
All right.
00:51:49
There a worst team now, remember, That's what we're changing the narrative.
00:51:55
They start they start their season host in Miami.
00:51:58
God, Lawrence? Yeah, that they win that, then they go to Seattle.
00:52:09
That will be a loss.
00:52:16
Lawrence, I think this is really upset.
00:52:23
Um, interesting.
00:52:24
Look, atyou? I don't know, man.
00:52:27
Seahawks are They're gonna hole.
00:52:29
I know, I know, But, uh, then they got Las Vegas at home.
00:52:38
I think this one I do give I edge to the patriots now, probably before I would have given it to the right.
00:52:44
I have.
00:52:45
This is the patriots lost before Cam Newton.
00:52:47
Lawrence.
00:52:49
They win this game.
00:52:51
Okay.
00:52:52
Yeah, because I remember you had the Patriots starting or one and four.
00:52:56
Ah, Seattle Like then they go to Kansas City.
00:53:00
Oh, yeah.
00:53:01
Take the L there, Lawrence.
00:53:05
The, uh I think.
00:53:08
Oh, I am.
00:53:14
I really like Lawrence today.
00:53:17
That this is even a consideration is pretty high.
00:53:22
It really depends because this is a game where can Could little up, like on the ground.
00:53:31
That's true.
00:53:32
He could run on on that Kansas City defense.
00:53:35
Could I just don't see it.
00:53:37
I don't see how it happens.
00:53:40
I mean, if you want to get in the wind, Lawrence, I'll take it.
00:53:43
You can get I.
00:53:44
I know that.
00:53:45
That's probably what you want to do.
00:53:47
No, this wouldn't be a Bill Belichick does not play for ties.
00:53:50
It's got to make a decision.
00:53:51
Will run out of time.
00:53:52
I'm sorry.
00:53:53
Let's let's.
00:53:55
Either way, I don't care.
00:53:57
Let's give him Let's give them win.
00:53:59
Screwed the Patriots.
00:54:01
Yeah, Jesus, right then they're hosting Denver.
00:54:05
I think that's a dub for the Pats.
00:54:07
I think that Drew Lock is gonna struggle against that defense.
00:54:11
And, uh, Patriot should be able to put up enough points.
00:54:15
I think that Denver defense actually heard something to Cam in this game.
00:54:18
I think Denver comes in and upsets.
00:54:20
And how weird is that? That they go beat Kansas City and then Denberg? Jimmy G.
00:54:28
Comes home? Oh yeah, The Retribution game.
00:54:33
I had the Patriots winning this game before Cam Newton.
00:54:37
I got I got the Patriots won in the skin, and that's no disrespect of San Francisco.
00:54:42
I just it's it's hard to play Gillette.
00:54:44
It's even harder when you're trying to get revenge.
00:54:47
And you got Kyle Shanahan, who's been embarrassed by the Patriots.
00:54:50
Jimmy JIA is mad at the Patriots, and I just think that this is gonna be a bill ballot check type of game.
00:54:55
He also knows Jimmy Garoppolo inside a note.
00:54:59
I hear you guys, but I'm going to go with 40 Niners anyway.
00:55:03
Uh, fair enough, then there at Buffalo, which Joe and I have a sweet and Lawrence, you have them splitting right by Adam splitting.
00:55:15
And then we all have them sweeping New York.
00:55:17
That's well, yeah, New York sweat.
00:55:21
Okay.
00:55:22
And then Baltimore threat.
00:55:26
Say it in New ing.
00:55:28
Oh, you're giving him a loss? Uh, no.
00:55:33
Yeah.
00:55:34
Um, I think Baltimore still wins in a prime time at Gillette Stadium.
00:55:38
You gotta be then there at Houston.
00:55:43
Interesting.
00:55:44
I'm actually curious to see what you guys have to say about this game because you guys were pretty ill Texans.
00:55:50
I've been trying.
00:55:51
I've been trying to keep my opinion to myself as I go through this, but I'm even the Patriots lost in this game.
00:55:55
I still got Houston in this game, but now I'm convinced my Lawrence's face is convinced me otherwise.
00:56:04
No.
00:56:05
You know what? This is the thing, right? Like I said, there's a floor.
00:56:08
And in order for the Patriots to really do something, gotta beat one of these big teams.
00:56:11
Kansas City, Houston, Baltimore, you what? I mean, that's what I said.
00:56:15
And I've already got him beaten. Kansas City.
00:56:21
I know you do, but I don't.
00:56:23
I know.
00:56:24
I think they'd be.
00:56:25
I think they beat the Texans to.
00:56:26
I'm gonna give him.
00:56:27
I'm in.
00:56:29
Ah, even even in an NRG stadium.
00:56:31
I'm gonna give him the taxes because I don't.
00:56:33
I think that's the only big game that they have a chance to win.
00:56:37
I'm gonna give it to the Pats.
00:56:39
I don't like.
00:56:41
I think I think New England is one of the few teams in the NFL that has enough debts, that corner to be able to handle all the receivers.
00:56:49
CrossFit.
00:56:51
Then they're hosting Arizona, and I know that you got it's going to the first time Kyler Murray sees a Patriots defense.
00:56:59
I think Bill Belichick is like 100 in winds to two losses to young quarterbacks.
00:57:05
He's special.
00:57:06
He's not Lamar Jackson.
00:57:08
I'm going to give the pages to win this game.
00:57:10
Even though I love Kyla Murray.
00:57:12
I think I believe I had the Patriots win in this game.
00:57:15
PRI candidate as well.
00:57:17
So did I.
00:57:20
I think you have them losing pre pre camps that I know you had them winning pre camp.
00:57:25
Joe had them had this kind of Marie cause that's when he started his N v p.
00:57:28
So this was his breakout game.
00:57:29
Is it still his breakout game? I think he's gonna be well, it could technically be his breakout game, but I think it's more so gonna be that he's just a force, an unstoppable force at this point in the season.
00:57:41
And the Patriots are gonna be the next victim.
00:57:43
Kyle.
00:57:44
So 5 10 Kyler Murray as they call.
00:57:46
All right, So you're given the pages loss direct.
00:57:49
Then they travel to the West Coast for back to back games against the Rams and the Chargers.
00:57:55
Lawrence, you of them splitting right against the Rams against the Rams and then against the Chargers, both in L A.
00:58:05
Oh, yeah, yeah, they they beat the Chargers and lose to the Rams.
00:58:11
Yeah, I remember you hadn't split him.
00:58:15
Ah, I'm actually gonna do the other way around.
00:58:19
I have a feeling Belichick has McVeigh's number, but I think the Chargers could find a way to beat Cam Newton and that renegade.
00:58:28
I haven't splitting as well, but I have them, Ah, losing of the Chargers and beating the Rams.
00:58:35
And then they go to Miami.
00:58:39
They don't always do so well in Miami.
00:58:42
No, they don't.
00:58:44
This is this is one of those weird situations were Miami.
00:58:47
For some reason, I thank spying on the Patriots tough, especially at the end of the season.
00:58:54
So I have.
00:58:55
This is the Patriots Onley divisional loss of the year.
00:58:59
Any kid I got him, I got him losing the Miami to all right.
00:59:02
Weird that we say that.
00:59:03
And then they're hosting Buffalo.
00:59:05
So that's all of us with wind.
00:59:08
And then they're, well, they're going to beat the judge.
00:59:10
January 3rd. Correct.
00:59:13
All right.
00:59:14
So I gave him quite a few wins there.
00:59:16
Let's see I did.
00:59:17
I know I gave him a lot of wins.
00:59:20
Joe has the Patriots win in nine games.
00:59:23
There you go.
00:59:26
I have them winning 10 games.
00:59:29
Cutter weird twelves weighed 123456789 10.
00:59:34
No, I haven't been in 11 games because I gave me Houston.
00:59:38
That's why it's different in my original 10.
00:59:40
Just I think, tens the floor and they need to win that Houston game in.
00:59:44
Lawrence has them winning 123456789 10 11 North.
00:59:50
I have 11. We just have different losses.
00:59:52
Way have we have different wind losses.
00:59:54
There you go.
00:59:55
There's a lot of games that could go either way.
00:59:57
Man, in that schedule, they could.
01:00:00
That's why I said, I think the floors between nine and 10 and then they have to win either.
01:00:05
You know, Seattle, Baltimore, Kansas City, Houston.
01:00:10
Something has to go right, and they have to win one of those games.
01:00:14
But, I mean, considering that we have the Bills winning seven games, that pretty much wraps up the East.
01:00:17
No matter who wins, I think, say, and I know you have a morning nine, but the pages went in 11 so we all got the page.
01:00:24
It's winning the A F C East this year.
01:00:26
Well, what's weird is what's going to be difficult for other teams that's playing against what they normally play against New England.
01:00:34
They're gonna have to throw that completely out that book completely out the door and come up with a whole new game plan against him.
01:00:39
Because you can't play Cam Newton like you played Tom Brady because it's a completely different team.
01:00:46
Sure is.
01:00:47
And I also think it says a lot.
01:00:48
The fact that Cam Newton took, you know, so such little money.
01:00:53
I think that he just wants to go out there and prove people wrong men.
01:00:56
And that could be the interests that I made that exact same point.
01:01:00
I think so too well.
01:01:01
And, yeah, he's playing with a trip on the shoulder, and I think I don't know if I said it on my own individual stream or if I did it with Lawrence.
01:01:07
But I said, You know, nobody plays better in New England in a player with a chip on their shoulder.
01:01:12
Doesn't matter who it is.
01:01:13
You what I mean.
01:01:14
And I'm sure that Cam's locker already has articles about him being a bum and all this already taped up in his locker just to remind them when he comes in.
01:01:22
Gentlemen, can I ask one question again.
01:01:26
Did anyone here besides me see the video Cam Newton put out while he was drenching sweat on the treadmill on the treadmill? I did.
01:01:34
Where he saluted Carolina.
01:01:36
Yeah, and but you still And he says, I have no hard feelings, but you could see the fire in his eyes.
01:01:41
Still, even as he's saying there's no hard feelings, Well, yeah, he went on his instagram post.
01:01:45
They gave up on you or whatever, right? He feels disrespected.
01:01:49
I trust me.
01:01:50
He feels disrespected that he took the veterans minimum, you know, And But I think that that's why balletic made the incentive so high.
01:01:57
If you think you're this guy, you mean because that's a what That 6.
01:02:01
5 $1,000,000 in incentives like that's what is going for a quarterback if he is, you know it is.
01:02:08
And I think that's why I've never seen ballot check make Ah, contract that heavy and laden.
01:02:13
So I think that was like, Oh, if you say who you are, there it is, son.
01:02:16
You mean go.
01:02:17
And this is this is his chance to be part of another great, you know, part of a great team, you know, even though he's taking a low, a low ball offer, really, he's trying out to be, you know, to lead a team to go to the Super Bowl multiple times.
01:02:33
You know, that's what he's doing.
01:02:35
And he didn't have that opportunity in Carolina or sign a big fat contract in Warren's next year.
01:02:40
Right? We have your breeze retires.
01:02:42
All right, gentlemen, we've got an hour in two minutes.
01:02:45
My wife wants to restart the WiFi, and I got another podcast to do it. Nine.
01:02:49
So I think it's time we call it up.
01:02:50
I only scream to Joe once today.
01:02:52
So it wasn't that great.
01:02:53
Wasn't that great of a show? I'll say some more outlandish things, gentlemen, is always It's always a pleasure being on here with you guys.
01:03:03
Lawrence.
01:03:04
How How can they find us? Like if they want to see us every single day, what do they have to do? Oh, man.
01:03:09
They've got to go to SportsCastr and give us a follow.
01:03:12
Right? They go like this video.
01:03:14
Give us a follow in.
01:03:15
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01:03:23
How did they make a profile? Listen, you just go up there to the top right quarter and you could sign in with your Twitter, your Facebook, your email.
01:03:32
It's super easy, right? It takes literally, what, 10 seconds? If you want to put a profile picture like you guys said it, maybe it takes like 2025 seconds.
01:03:41
It's really easy, guys.
01:03:42
It's just come up.
01:03:44
You know, just come on The New Yorker now, Yeah, it's easy is all.
01:03:50
The California's an actress from California, where all actors are really gentle.
01:03:55
My name is Ray about that is Joe New Beau, that is Lawrence O.
01:03:58
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01:04:00
Find Joe new Bow on.
01:04:02
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01:04:03
I always say it wrong.
01:04:04
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01:04:07
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01:04:13
We will see its moral gentlemen as always.
01:04:15
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