and momentarily, but the near and dear to both of upper hearts.
And that's of course, going to be around LeBron James.
And what could have been around that big decision when you ultimately went down to join Dwayne Wade on the Miami Heat prior to the 2010 seasons? So ah, it's going to be one of those ah, melancholy trips down memory lane, I think, for all of us Brooklyn Nets fans, certainly, and New Jersey Nets fans, by the way, for those who don't know.
No, I am the New Jersey native.
So I followed this team from its today across Insert the Brooklyn and, of course, continue to root for them. Now.
This is back when there was a lot of big conversations, uh, is for as Jay Z getting involved in the franchise, and we'll wait here to get keeping fear since take on that.
But this is when this was pre going to Brooklyn.
That was kind of on the horizon, and no, still two more seasons in New Jersey, playing in Newark for this squad's double.
But there where LeBron James LeBron James, you're trying to make this big splash in trying to make this big move.
And what you're trying to sell people on really is.
You're trying to sell LeBron James on what's going to continue to build there a couple of years down the road as you head towards Brooklyn.
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But this is the interesting dynamic around the MBA, right? We talk so much about all of these streams.
We talked about the movement that you see from players now, unlike the last time dance stock where it was an all or nothing for Michael Jordan being on the Bulls right and playing underneath Phil Jackson that very much felt like it was going to be.
It happens there where it doesn't happen.
We know that LeBron James spends a handful of seasons in Cleveland, realizes maybe that things aren't gonna happen there for him, has some issues with front office as well, and then this opportunity comes about where he wants to move ends up winning a couple of championships.
Lost that 1st 1 in dramatic fashion.
As we know, Chris Bosch famously struggled to kind of keep his emotions in the postgame there.
But when you look back, but where the nets were at the time, they're coming out of this.
Ah, a little bit of a rise years and welcome in.
Um, they were coming out of this rise, so we'll take.
Let me take a look here real quick.
I want to pull up where the Nets, where the nets were as they came out of that 2009 into the German Tanks 2010 roster.
And we'll go over that as well as we move through here.
But you're really you're talking about This is the Kris Humphries.
You know, 2000 10,011 though you do have Darren Williams on this roster.
Ah, you got Davey and James as it was a youngster at that point.
This is also they have an tomorrow on this roster as well.
You're talking about drafting Derrick favors in the 2010 draft, so there's some names coming and going here, which is interesting But But the to the that season ends up being a real lost year for the New Jersey at the time.
So let's take a look at their seasons and get down into that 2010 range.
So you're talking about winning in the first round, back in 060 seven.
And then things start to Peter out there a little bit.
This is coming out of that nice Roma, Jason Kidd and with the Richard Jefferson that's a couple of years removed.
Now the old part ways around the same time.
Um, you know, So you're talking about, 0708 This is a team that goes 34 48 same record the following year in 0809090 10 12 and 70 a total full on disaster there, the 2010 seasons within a winning 24 games in 22 games.
And then the 12 4013 season rolls around.
And this is where, of course, we get into that big trade that came about on what happened for the Brooklyn, the Nets, and then going to Brooklyn trying to attract make that big trade.
Platt SPLASH Excuse me with the Boston Celtics.
You bring in Paul Pierce.
You bringing Kevin Garnett to a lesser extent you brought in Terry as well, and unfortunately, that did not pan out.
And there's really just this trickle down effect that comes there.
So there's a bit of a gap here in terms of saying Bring in LeBron James and only maybe having him for three or four seasons.
What would have things looked like for the Nets? But I want to take this real long, Ah, long term perspective on this.
If you just get LeBron in and you keep him there and the Nets don't have to make the trains that they make, where would they have where they have been had they been able to make some of those selections? So but we're going to take a look here and just see if we get ah, if we could get Keith McPherson end.
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I mean, this is we're talking about bad run there for the Nets organization because that drafted Derrick favors you had Brook Lopez as a youngster on this roster.
Some other pieces are kind of around their obviously not a ton of talent.
But before I maybe where did you follow the nets all the way from the Jersey days into Brooklyn? And where were you at is a fan around this time From what It feels like the wheels were essentially falling off the franchise. A lot of weight.
I mean, I remember watching the draft and seeing favors, get drafted and watching some Nets game but games.
But I wasn't like I am now watching every game covering the games.
I was just like if the Nets around, I'm gonna watch and they weren't that great.
But like you said, Brook Lopez, um, we I think around that time 2010 we knew we were moving to Brooklyn like Jay Z had rapped about outed, and it had been rumored and confirmed, and we knew that the Nets were leaving.
I personally boycotted the Nets in 2011.
In 2012 I didn't come back until 2000 and 13 when I got to see a game in the Barclay Center and I realized, OK, this was a much better business move.
But once I knew they were moving the team, New Jersey only has the Devils and the Nets.
I was kind of disheartened.
I was kind of sad about it and I was like Well, I can't represent this team that's gonna leave Jersey and leave us behind, but I understand what they were trying to do. Fast forward.
Here we are now, 89 years later, it all makes sense.
Ah, it's my leg.
It had a vision for this.
That down the line like this is gonna be a place that would be better to attract free agents.
And we did Now talking about attracting free agents.
All this info is coming out about LeBron's decision that the fans want LeBron to do this.
And we even saw the Wade's, um he's like 30 for 30 on ESPN, where they showed like the Watch party.
And the raid didn't even know that LeBron was going to say he was going to Miami.
I'm like you not know your best player on the team.
You didn't send you a text like I am about to say I'm going toe South Beach either way, like LeBron James, uh, and Jay Z, they're already friends.
There was some different lyrics, um, that Jay Z had LeBron.
I'm drawing a blank on him, but he said something like, uh moving the nets to be Kay said, if if Jesus paying LeBron, I'm playing ah Dwayne Wade or something was like He was alluding to this like friendship and this potential of LeBron coming.
But no one really thought LeBron is gonna come.
And I remember there was, like, moving, um targets like which team is gonna have the best offer Which city was gonna be able to land LeBron and we knew it was gonna be the Cavs.
We knew LeBron is gonna move on The heat made the most sense for him to join the Big Three.
When you're hearing about the Knicks bringing in The Sopranos to pitch LeBron and LeBron not going to the second interview and then even in this story you hear about, you know, Jay z State after the meeting for a 15 minute private meeting with James, which overlaps his schedule arrival with necks.
It's like, Wow, so now, you know, 10 years later, we're uncovering all of this and Jay Z at that time, I mean, Jay Z has always been Jay Z, But Jay Z at that time he had dropped the Blueprint three.
He had a lot of videos circulating.
Hey, man, Beyonce.
They were just like they're still superstars.
But like Jay Z power Yeah, yeah, so I mean, honestly, I thought like there's a good chance that Jay Z like they're just trying to build this conglomerate.
If they were a good chance that Jay Z can bring him in, if there if they were, if it was one year even I think before the move to Brooklyn, I think that it would be that much more likely that the Nets were able to land.
And I can understand if you're LeBron, obviously.
Maybe you think I remember the time.
The big three, right? Like Bosch is looking to go somewhere.
So maybe he ends up going to at the time, New Jersey with LeBron James, Dwayne Wade.
You know, I don't think he was in a contract year, but that was basically conversation about We're gonna play together.
Is it going to be Cleveland? Is it going to be Miami, or is it going to be some new spots? So it would be interesting to think about like at least Bosch would have gone.
Maybe even you wouldn't talk.
Uh, I want you long for the bronze awaited.
Like you say, it seems like man, the Knicks have been a mess for so long, but the Knicks are at least established in New York.
It's it's still the New York Knicks.
And if you're not going to maybe say, Well, just come to New York, I'll go to the Knicks and I'll start that rebuild their with this quote known franchise right established franchise, as opposed to maybe building a legacy with New Jersey and then moving into Brooklyn.
But two year gap is probably just enough, especially when now you look back on it again.
You say LeBron didn't even stay in Miami for a long period of time and you want championship there and still left So But man here.
So here's the problem.
I started going at a rabbit hole because that's what I like to dio.
Ah, couple years after what would have been LeBron coming to New Jersey, you know, the next.
Make that big splash on.
Make the trade with Boston to bring in Paul Pierce to bring in Kevin Garnett to bring in Jason Terry as well.
If you want to throw into that mix, that's didn't have a lot of things going, but they had a lot of assets going out, so I started to scroll down this track record of it, and at first I came across, ah, markets marketing taken, I think, six overall by the Celtics.
Now that was their own picks, that it wasn't actually ah, player that you could have landed.
And as it turns out, it's not even the biggest name that you could have landed.
So you work your way through this process of where the Nets could have gone.
There's a couple of players that the Celtics picked out that didn't really pan out, But then you get to the Nets.
2016 1st round draft pick number three overall.
That was Jaylen Brown.
So 2016 you are talking about five years later and then the very, very next season.
Here's the problem, too.
Is they? Also? Ah, had the 2017 1st round draft pick, which they shipped off to the Celtics.
They took Marquel folds and then, in that trade, the end of receiving the third overall pick.
And that's who they took.
Jason took Jayson Tatum.
Now listen in a world right where? Where LeBron James on the team, starting in the 2010 2011 season.
Maybe you bring Chris Box with you.
If you get, I think if you could get through, like 2013 14 right, you're and maybe you're talking about, then who's the next class? But even without those, so that's That's the dream scenario, because the Nets picks are going to be a strong if you have LeBron on the monster.
So you can't talk about maybe having Tatum or even having a guy like Jaylen Brown.
But when you can talk about Man is having Brook Lopez and even having Derrick favors and even do.
Like I went back into the roster then, and this is This will seem like a such a nonsense name, but a guy like Anthony Morrow, who was on that roster at the time and shot Plus he was a three point shooter.
That was his only skill set in a lot of ways to be ableto have players like that around LeBron James shooting.
Plus, you shot 42% from deep that year and played in 58 games.
So it's not even small sample size.
It just no, what if man like, how did these other players build out around him and you think about Maybe those Brook Lopez start to develop that perimeter shot a little bit sooner because you have LeBron James on that C And I really, at the very least, I look over those rosters and I say, even just Brook Lopez and LeBron James And then pieces were gonna come.
You know you're gonna track your agency.
That's the beginning of something that feels like you could have had a much different decades in New Jersey.
Slash Brooklyn for the Nets.
Ah, Splash Mountain didn't become Splash Mountain until he landed in Milwaukee.
Maybe he finds that deep, and we saw him with the Nets, hit a lot of threes on later in his career.
But maybe he finds it earlier with LeBron and man.
When you think about the draft picks and how things just they're gonna they're gonna have a history of the Nets like they already have a history of the Nets on YouTube.
But they're gonna update it like in five years.
And they're gonna talk about this swing and how things changed.
And even now, though, maybe talk about LeBron and Jay Z and ah, lot of things that the Nets did in those years that we thought were a great move, agreed on the cover of Sports Illustrated with Jason Kidd and Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett, and it just didn't go right and even trying to attract free agents.
Now, when we're talking about, like, you know, being in Jersey for those two years like LeBron the biggest basketball player in the world, he wasn't gonna come play in the swamps of the metal lands for two years.
It just wasn't gonna happen.
Um, and I mean Jay Z being powerful enough to possibly sway him.
Jay Z had a small per percentage in the Nets and I think the Barclay Center and not long ago, maybe three years ago, I think he sold that back.
I think he gave up that that share the Nets and got them into Brooklyn and is designed everything from the uniform.
Yeah, yes, help of minding when you go there like you see the influence of Jay Z, hip hop culture, Biggie Smalls, Brooklyn culture, all of that.
But Jay's de opted out of that business side of things, and I don't know, maybe he saw some type of writings on the wall, but um, when you look at the Nets now, like, all is well, now, I'm glad we don't have LeBron now because that would have stopped LeBron potentially from or stop Katie Kyrie from pretended like there's a whole butterfly effect in their everything.
When I was supposed to, we had to go through those drafts of watching us not have draft picks.
We had to go through these teams where we were just bottom feeders and like looking at now like Jay Z what Jay Z is now.
And you know, it made me think about where they were in, like 9 4010 with ROC Nation, right and Katie Katie was signed to ROC Nation C.
Sabathia like 4009 Rock Nation Sports Agency became a thing I worked two years ago.
I worked at Rock Nation Sports Agency in the city, and they were 10 years beyond where they were.
But in 8 94,010 they had, like Robinson Cano.
Not long after that, CC Sabathia, uh, Dez Bryant, like they had some good athletes.
We're signing with this record label that was starting to be a sports agency and they did have power.
If they were able to swing LeBron, it would have been crazy.
And, you know, looking at it now, um, I'm not sure where Jay Z is on all that, but he still has some.
Some sway, some power like kind reassigned to Rock Nation.
Spencer Dinwiddie is signed to ROC Nation.
Wilson Chandler assigned to Rock Nation So there's still some ties with the Brooklyn Nets in Brooklyn.
Um, as far as LeBron goes, LeBron had that sound bite on like the hot mikes.
I think it was when when d Wade was done.
And, um, maybe they had a little bit more of a moment and he said something along the lines of it was only gonna be two places.
It was either going to be here or the Garden like Staples Center or the Garden.
And I know Knicks fans caught that and ran with that for a little while.
And now we have information that it was confirmed he was looking to come to New York, and it wasn't for the Nets toe land him because the Nets weren't physically in New York yet.
It was for the Knicks to potentially land, but the Knicks couldn't get out of their own way.
They're bringing Sopranos stars to the meeting like is LeBron even a Sopranos fan like I don't know where that comes from.
The Sopranos is filmed in North Jersey you like, and you don't have enough history in your organization as the Knicks organization.
You got players, so it's so with basketball players.
They can tell you about what it's like to be a part of it.
Instead of being like you want to get pitched by HBO mob drama, I'm just getting think pretty why? And ideally, you probably he probably walked in that meeting with, like, such a leg up and immediately just cut yourself out of the knees.
You're like And now we also have some Broadway singers that we'd like you to hear from the rockets in, uh, making cowboy like who rose from New York City.
Can we pull into this place? Oh my God, that is Yeah, the disaster has been the next.
What I will say to is like the other side of it would be it's one thing to think about the possibility of landing LeBron and how realistic it may have been or how close the nets me became.
The other side of it will be there to say that doesn't happen and then imagine just if they don't.
We talked about Tatum and Jalen Brown you're talking about.
Well, listen, man, like if you have LeBron, you're not gonna have those draft picks.
But if the Nets just didn't make that move and also didn't throw away all those assets on Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett when they tried to make that big splash, then you're talking about may maybe be able to sit in Brooklyn right now with I'll just take Tatum.
I won't be greedy and ask for both of them.
Let's say that Just have Jayson Tatum.
You know the idea of having a real young centerpiece for this roster, even though for everything they've accomplished in the idea that we are in this championship mode right now going into next year with Sadie and Kyrie? That's the one thing that the Nets fan base that we haven't had in Maybe since what? Um, you go back.
Thio was a Petra *****.
You know, you have to go back a ways to a young player that unfortunately, had a, you know, really, Unfortunately, his career and his life, ultimately, we have that a young talent like that.
Hey, man, this is our young superstar, right? This is our name.
Any of these guys around the league right now that we're hopefully going to build around and we're gonna bring in pieces and it's gonna be talented and track.
So that's always been the interesting thread that I've pulled through all of this off.
I love what we're doing now.
I love that we have who we have.
But when these guys go, what is it going to look like in Brooklyn? And how are we going to guarantee sustainability when you, you know, it still comes down to Who's your next young start? And it will be really interesting if Brooklyn Nets are sitting here four years.
If even so you get back, you know Katie and Kyra an extension, maybe, but four or five years from now you're going tohave toe, have that next name that's going to be able to keep you above the garden and above the next.
Yeah, and I think that's why Nets fans have so much faith in love and dedication in the Caris Levert and we didn't even been drafting.
We ended up getting the swab with Thea with the Pacers, but like he was looked at as our guys like, he's gonna be the homegrown superstar.
He's gonna be the guy that when he hits his pace, when he comes into his own, he's gonna be a superstar in the league.
And we got to see a little bit of that in 2020 right before they cancelled things.
Now, like you're saying, we're in this window where we know we know what the culture of the MBA is, we know how these free agents move.
We know how free agency is and how these guys air teaming up and whether it's a duo summer or whether it's ah, superteam summer are, you know, Ah, power three or whatever.
Like we know that there's gonna be another shift in a couple of years and these guys get older, these guys age out.
These guys, they're gonna be past their prime in a couple years to so for Nets fans, I think we all really know like this.
We need this to work out with Katie and Kyrie bringing a championship back.
We don't have any players that we drafted that like we really can say that.
You know, our our God, like maybe in four years is Nick Claxton gonna be a beast? Is Nick Class is going to be a guy that were like, Okay, that's one of our own guys.
Even in recent drafts like Moussa and Ah, and roadie on KU routes like those guys that we drafted, they show us glimpses.
But they're not bona fide superstars.
They have their moments, but they should be a little bit better.
And there were guys that were taken around them that have come into the league and, um, better.
The Nets have had an unfortunate last like decade with the N b A draft.
Luckily, it played into our favorite of land. Katie and Kyrie.
Um, as far as attractive free agents who knows in 45 years like it when they leave, who's gonna wanna come here even before them? When we landed de Lo and ah Mas Goff that just passed.
It's like three year anniversary of, um, Brooklyn introducing them.
We were pumped about that were pumped about that deal.
You know where Brook Brook Lopez got sent to? L. A.
People were looking at De Lo is like, OK, potentially.
This guy can figure it out for us and become our star.
And he did for a season or two.
And I don't know, I'm just very focused on the nets, like living out this prophecy of like, Okay, we built the culture way.
We moved to Brooklyn.
We built the culture around hip hop around Brooklyn, the actual borough of Brooklyn and the people in the community.
And all of that attracted these great players here.
They have to win.
I really hope that Katie and Kyrie can, at least when the East once in the next 2 to 3 years and then we can look back and say, Hey, that was all worth it.
That whole thing was worth it because we also fire Kenny jackets and during this process, and that's not really that's still not sitting right with me, because I felt like he deserved the opportunity to coach the superstars.
This guy got a bunch of winds with, you know, people that nobody wanted.
So, you know, it is part of it.
We've seen the Raptors lose their head coach.
We've seen the Warriors lose Mark Jackson bringing Steve Kerr than they started winning.
So hopefully, whether Jock von or in, ah, big name or somebody we don't know, hopefully the whole thing comes full circle when they talk about trusting the process.
If there was a phrase for Brooklyn, like the Brooklyn way, like Trust of Brooklyn, way like hopefully the Brooklyn way goes our way and all these moves that we made, like get us to a championship, we just want one.
We just want one.
We've been close.
We just don't want Give me that one and it's funny.
Makes it and close out on it.
Remember that was coming off of the Jason Kidd Richard Jefferson V Sierra in next, when, when they got to the finals and ran into the Lakers, ran to the Spurs once you know, just just ran into the better into better teams flat out.
But in such a that that last run that that last consistent playoff appearance, it is couple of the Eastern Conference finals, a couple finals appearances and then it's been radio silence and incident.
A lot of missteps and a lot of misfire, especially under Billy King at the time, trying to reach for all these things and really mortgaging your future so they don't everything right? Like you said, the prophecy is so close to being fulfilled.
It's just about getting across that last, that last step.
And if they do that, all his rights, anything less.
Unfortunately, it's going to be a very interesting post near prophecy period for the Brooklyn Nets.
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