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Welcome to Laker Central, where I discussed the most famous basketball team on the planet with the biggest, brightest and up and coming voices and sports the culture.
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Subscribers are eligible for special giveaways, but we got big news breaking news.
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The Lakers are going to sign J. R.
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Smith for the rest of season, according to multiple sources.
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So wanna welcome on a couple of Lakers fans that cover the N B A.
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First my man spends Pennington, host of the code of conduct podcast Spence Man was going on.
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Hey, man, thank you for having me.
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I'm excited about I'm excited Basketballs back.
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So I know we got a month now that we're counting down, but I'm with it, man.
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And last, but certainly not least, metal man Darren Genes of overtime heroics.
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He runs the basketball department.
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There was going on jeans.
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What's going on? Thank you for having me here.
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Is almost here.
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Well, guys, I mean, look, JR is a Laker now, right? Or he will be.
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I don't think that he's officially signed, but Marc Stein was the first to break the news.
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Then woes and everybody else followed up.
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Um, so I want to get your thoughts on what he brings even before what he brings to the table.
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But just your overall opinion of J. R.
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Smith and Spence.
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Let's start with you, man.
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Well, I'm actually a J.
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R.
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Smith fan.
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I liked him in Cleveland with LeBron.
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I liked, really I just like J.
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R.
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Smith.
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But I guess for me I was a little taken back because I was one of the fans that I'm in the camp where I feel like we might have looked at Crawford.
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You know, I think that the Lakers really need scoring off the bench, and a lot of people in Twitter's kind of yelled at me like a Dion.
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That's what we got going on for now.
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True, but personally, I just haven't been sold on beyond yet, just based off what I've seen in the past room.
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Hopefully, he could be the guy that we need him to be.
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But, um, you know, I was looking forward to hopefully getting a workout for Crawford in, but but Jr is the guy.
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I'm not.
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I'm not upset at all.
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I think this is definitely, um, a weapon that could be used.
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You know, if the team is you, if they utilise them correctly, it can absolutely be a benefit.
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Obviously, for LeBron, to be a benefit for the bench is gonna be fun.
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You know, I love the signing.
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I do.
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What do you think? Jeans.
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I'm with him.
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Uh, it's a little weird that operators not finding it's almost like he said he did something.
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And there it is. Weird.
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That morning.
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Well, shooting, I I guess out offered to have what they are.
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They are, has it big stop.
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Before we thought what he could do in Cleveland with LeBron excluding that one boneheaded move where he did not shoot, Man, that area is a point of rest.
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Kind of doing things that's gonna make you shake your head and be like, Why do that? At the same time we complained that that's gonna three things like big shots in big moments.
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So is to get signing.
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I'm with, you know, You know, I my father have him did not find Yeah.
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I mean, when avery Bradley decided not to resume basket with the Lakers, at least breast in the season.
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Smith was my number one guy.
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I mean, the options are limited as it stands anyway.
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It's not like, you know, we have all these great guys that are available, but I think one Smith having a relationship with LeBron in Cleveland playing for three seasons there.
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If you, if you're comfortable of LeBron, likes you that that's half the battle right.
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That might be the whole battle if you've got relation, LeBron.
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But then, beyond that, When the Lakers were looking to add some additional bench players earlier this season, Smith did work out already.
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They just happen to go, Dion waiters.
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So Smith already have a relationship with Rob Pelinka and working out with Lakers, apparently having a relationship a good relation with LeBron James.
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That basically said everything to me.
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I wouldn't have mind if they worked out Crawford or somebody else.
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But I wonder if because of the current pandemic, maybe it's just hard to get anyone else to NATO work out like they had already seen Smith.
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I mean, it just might have been impossible.
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Bring someone else and physically get a workout.
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Yeah, I could see that with with a lot of players and teams right now is just like you said, the dynamic of getting those workouts, physicals and, you know, across all of sports, you know, leagues, not just the n B a.
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So now that's that.
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That's a great point.
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I just like I said, I'm just that fan that I felt like we had a ton of time prior to the pandemic that I thought we should have been looking at.
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People and Jr was one that I was like You said, I do feel like he's a great player and he will benefit the team.
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But Crawford, he's somebody I've been.
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Honestly, I've been trying to figure out the whole season why he hasn't been on a roster of why he wasn't being looked at.
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Yeah, Jackie.
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I mean, we were thinking about Crawford, and I mean crop.
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It's I think he's a phenomenal player, but I think he's been out of the N B a longer than Smith, right? I mean, Smith has been health and be at least what a year, year and 1/2.
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So J.
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R.
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I mean, but ah That's the thing.
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Also, in a year which, well, for Smith first met the thing Crawford is going, This is like second season.
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So, yeah, we're Smith.
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I think he played, like, what, 11 games for Cleveland, And they kind of banished him, if you will, when? And I just got back on offer, you know, it's it's just like I said earlier.
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It's almost like because his last game, he likes you.
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You like 50.
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It's not like she can't wait.
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It's almost like something he did or safe are.
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Things is to him, other leak.
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That's because I don't know what it is that look him or even give him a work.
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You know, I understand they're getting a workout and you just don't hoard with the work out there, just like you don't have any more.
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But they're not even doing in the workout.
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So at at this point, you gotta think, all right, something's going on.
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No one said something.
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He said something or he said something, someone that's basically keeping them out.
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I mean, I wonder if you know he's waiting for the right situation.
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Obviously, I think he would play for the Lakers.
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That they called a probably play for almost any of the contenders.
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Right? The Clippers, Lakers, Raptors books.
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I'm sure you play for any of those squads.
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Um, one of the things I think is a major difference between Crawford and J.
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R.
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Is they both could get hot.
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And I think Crawford probably get hotter than Jr.
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But Crawford is more than Isil.
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Player versus Jr comes off screens.
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He's Oh, I I think that maybe he fits a little bit more with the Lakers won it.
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I mean, he can't replace Avery Bradley's on ball defense, his intensity, but I think he brings something different in that he's off all.
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He's bigger, he's 66 and the Lakers already have small guards.
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I mean, Green is 67 but outside of that, the Lakers guard, they're really small.
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So he brings some size.
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Um, and I think maybe he's looking for a way to redeem himself.
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I mean, he's like he's one of the NBA's mean guys, right? Like there's all these means and stuff about J. R.
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And you look at the Lakers track record this particular season, bring it in guys like Javale, Dwight Dion, guys that really the rest of lead kind of laughs at or doesn't want.
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The Lakers have given opportunity to guys that maybe nobody else wants, and so far they've all shined as Lakers this year.
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Yeah, for sure.
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Um, aspires the comment, though, about Crawford being an isil player.
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In my opinion, you know, in my opinion, the reason why I wanted Crawford is because I think we need that when the bronze on the bench.
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Um, so I understand the J.
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R.
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Smith Road, but I think he's gonna be playing a lot more with LeBron.
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I was more so looking for Crawford to come off the bench.
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So, like you and I spoke about previously when, um, when LeBron goes off the floor and it's Rondo leading, you know, being the point guard or whoever, it just seems like the ball doesn't move it off, or it just seems like we don't score.
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Even if 80 is in the game, scoring just seems to slow down.
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So if you have 80 and then you throw Crawford in there and you have a guy who can create his own opportunities one on one and really just be a bucket, give US 15 a game off the bench.
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To me, that's what I was looking forward to with Crawford, if we would have given him that shot.
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But like you said, I mean, it's still I'm not saying anything about Jr.
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I'm happy about the signing.
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I think it's going into this, especially this situation.
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His familiarity with LEBRON, like you mentioned is gonna is gonna you know, you don't have the time to jail as a unit.
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So to bring somebody in who is already familiar with the way LeBron likes to operate is gonna, you know, is gonna benefit us. No doubt.
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I think that's a big part of it.
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Um, his familiarity with LeBron already.
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I mean, these guys don't have a lot of time to kind of get used to each other again.
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The Lakers are veteran squad, so if any team can kind of bring someone new in the Lakers certainly can.
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But James, let me ask you this.
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If they would have looked at someone like Crawford, do you think there's too much of an overlap between Crawford skill set and say, Dion waiters Skill set? Yeah.
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I mean, if you look it, that's a good question because Dion waiters is kind of that player, that kind of mention You're hoping the waiter is that guy who are at the bottom.
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Come on the bit.
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Now we need to fire fire.
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They're hoping Demers kind of that guy who could give them that 8 to 12.
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Always that they need in that stretch where the Lakers have kind of small doubt because right, once LeBron goes out, came leaving with 84.
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You can tell, office stressed.
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That's why we want for reading Big lead.
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Because once it gets off before, it's like art singing kind of slow down and kind of go to the post.
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It's almost like a animal veteran.
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Thing she did was like, You know, we got two recorders left We're gonna worry about, you know, moves in a 12 point lead.
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How can I get it? But you still want to have that one guy who could cheat that float.
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And that's something that I think they are kind of who? But Crawford and Dion? Probably what they were kind of thinking the promises.
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Yeah, we can call offered, but we're kind of hoping Dean on is that guy so we already have a Jamal Crawford, if you know.
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So let's just hope Dion is.
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That guy that comes in is a bucket fourth they are.
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Is that coming off Springs? You know, backing down or not? Gonna have no shot.
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But he needs to be loved.
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Yes, and I'm wondering, certainly with someone like Crawford, like Crawford, his range is much deeper than Dionne's, right? I mean deok and shoot 23 but Crawford congest.
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He could pull up **** it, half court and he can hit a kid in three D On is Maura take you off the dribble? Mid range a little bit.
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He could certainly step back into three.
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But while there is some overlap there some subtle differences and I think you know Jade, you mentioned this.
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The on off numbers for LeBron versus Anthony Davis is nuts, right? I mean, look, LeBron, especially 80 and LeBron or special, right? But LeBron is like we're talking top top five.
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Some people call him the greatest he's on.
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He's on a world all by himself.
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Only a handful of guys, right? Currently, Anthony Davis has clearly won the top five players and MBA, but yeah, the same issues.
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He has an L.
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A.
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When he's on the court as like the only guy he had him in in in New Orleans.
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Also, it builds like in this day and age, and you've got a big even if he's especiales Anthony Davis, you better have another guy on that court that can create take pressure off ahead because then the defense just sags completely on Anthony Davis.
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If you have someone out there like Rondo, who can't really shoot, he assists us.
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I mean, he was.
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He was great 10 years ago, but he you know, he's He's not what we need him to be right now, right? So the Lakers need someone that can score.
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When you mentioned the name Rondo, I got out.
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I just got depressed immediately.
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I'm sorry he improved his shooting.
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He's his three point shooting has obviously improved, but that's the area that I felt like we didn't need for him to improve.
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So while I appreciate has approved, his improvement is like, No, we need you toe actually handle the ball properly.
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We need you to make good passes.
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We need you to play defense.
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We don't need his good Well, you know, it's no secret that watching want this years, and there's no secret about that.
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Um, I think when they sign here, they had this vision of Ron and Wanda.
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You know, the two of the best, you know, not only passes, but true nature offense.
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You know, you go back around, especially off years.
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I mean, is this distance assist for gay Were 14 15 16.
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Um, that's kind of what they kind of had it right when they brought, um and as I had, Yeah.
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What? You shoot threes there is, But he's gonna give us that other LeBron type person on the fastbreak offices.
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Slow work.
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When a team that plays half court, who needs to want to create offense, that that's where we're hoping out of that it's really frustrating.
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I mean, like ice Prince.
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Absent mentioned, it says that he's not doing what you want, what you were brought, but no.
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Even with that being said, you know Yes, I with with the Lakers bringing it, they are, and you have outscored.
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So you have, you know, still guards that are ankle playing.
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Does this kind of make global bring down from the minutes, Or do you think it's the same or go? Look, man, in my opinion, Rondo's minutes got to come down like like Caruso needs to play a little bit more.
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The issue is, is that you know Crusoe has never been in the playoffs, right? Like first off, you got this bubble situation that no player has been in.
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But guys like LeBron who literally live in a bubble.
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I mean, I'm sure he will be OK, right? It's so anti Davis and some of the veterans.
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Caruso another hand.
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He could be a little susceptible to ball pressure, and I think that's why he struggles, sometimes playing the point.
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But I think he's a fine player.
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I think he's he's made leaps, He's easy cheese.
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He's gotten much better year over year for the Lakers, and so I think he needs to play Mawr.
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And so, if if the Lakers were gonna bring in j R D J R nd on and Caruso's minister going to take a step back, I think that's it. The wrong way to go.
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I think Rondo's minutes need to take a step back.
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Yeah, I agree with you.
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I think Rondo if if I were Frank and I'm not, obviously if would be coaching.
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But if I was him at this point, he wouldn't really get any minutes right now at all.
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He would serve more of that mentor role to the other guards.
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Um, I just think that his his intelligence is off the charts.
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You know, just because he's intelligent doesn't mean that his game play catches.
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So now is just that thing.
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When you get older, your body can't do what your mind thinks that can't anymore.
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So I just think at this point he should be helping the young guys figure out film when they come in off the time out saying, You know, look at this. Look at the play.
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This is what they're doing to you, you know, like, be that role.
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I don't need to see him one of court anymore.
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I just don't at least now the Lakers you before.
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But see, I think that's the thinking.
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I think Rondo still has the respect of his teammates, which he should, because I think he will end up getting in the Hall of Fame. The man's a champion.
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Even Kobe Bryant vouch warm, right? I mean, so he's got the respect of his teammates.
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I think spent your point is right.
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He's better served almost like an extension of Jason Kidd.
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You try to teach what, trying to teach the place, what you already know, what you can see on the floor, because you could be on that bench of see things and then you get out there and you're You can't react physically the way that your mind is because he's not an old man, but by basketball standards.
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Here he's he's a little long in the tooth, and I think that that's where I think he could be most successful on the bench.
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Teaching the issue is that I think his teammates believe in him.
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I think there's still a Smith, the playoff Rondo, and that was like two years ago in itself.
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Man, you know, like people there still fans on my time line.
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I'm sure you guys as well that, like still believe in Rondo and full disclosure.
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If you put on the Laker jersey, I want you to do well appear in the game.
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But realistically, he doesn't have it made.
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Yeah, well, realistically, when you came on the code of conduct podcast.
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I told you, Realistically, I'm just have a tough time rooting for Rondo.
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Anyway, Just do train coming from the Celtics.
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Just him being a Celtic in him, winning a championship as a Celtic to me, It just it just I'm sorry.
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I know some like your fans, you know, because I know we had a discussion about LeBron people giving him a tough time.
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To me, it's a little bit different.
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I think it's a different conversation and just completely LeBron to me that converse A It's like a Kobe conversation when we're talking about Rondo.
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No, you're a Celtic man.
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You're so sick. I can't.
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This is Paul Pierce joining Lakers.
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I can't do it. Won't.
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Well, Paul Pierce, At least he's from L.
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A. Right Thinking grew up in Inglewood.
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I believe he did.
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And what the Lakers family was a kid just going Jeez going? Yeah, I wonder.
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I mean, and this is in this, you know, people really want Rondo there being something off.
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What we kind of want to be or take a step back and just gonna be a win for two guys.
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Like so I chased, you know, people that's nice to turn a rule that I think he's best now, I think was helping in this.
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We have kind of an older generation coaches back while you have.
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They bond, even even when he's performing, though they think no.
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Rondo's one of the smartest players.
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So what are you blabbing not gonna sit him down? They're not gonna because there is no warrant.
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He needs t be a more of a bench player or Vega been towards type player is not gonna happen because you got you got I'm not talking about a like about about status.
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Just that's how they are.
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Their old generation and the bowing players like Juan do are the four is that the office isn't right. I don't know.
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We're still first in the wife.
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I would have been pushing.
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So no.
00:18:53
Now we're kind of looking at things that are perfect and trying to say, Hey, this is a perfect Let's make it perfect.
00:19:01
I think that's that's the biggest thing that holding it like the fact is, the whole wander.
00:19:06
I don't know how we got from.
00:19:08
They want Honda with you.
00:19:11
So it is what it is because I've always thought that wonder is that cheap teens for us and Cruz, but before it? Wanda is that piece for us when it comes to winning Idol and making the Western proper final.
00:19:25
Cuando if we're getting what we read out of here, I truly don't at that boy work I'm doing.
00:19:32
But if it were getting this Rondo Yeah, right out.
00:19:36
It's gonna be tough talk because because when he comes in the game, he tried to bottle over his close game, their struggles a lot.
00:19:43
There's no ball movement.
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You can sing it.
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No difference when he's running the offense.
00:19:49
When Rondo warning it compared to a bar, I think the issue of Rondo.
00:19:54
There's a number of issues at this point, but I think that one of the key things specific this Lakers team is.
00:19:59
If you play him with LeBron, his skill set becomes redundant, right? Like you don't want to take the ball and LeBron's hands and it's not like Rondo could stand in the corner and hit threes.
00:20:07
But then, if you play Rondo with Anthony Davis, all of a sudden, the defense *** completely.
00:20:11
Often, Rondo dares him to shoot, and if he happens to hit 53 pointers in the game.
00:20:15
The defense is going to take that all day long because they're gonna dare him to shoot anyway, They said it's not normal for Rondo.
00:20:21
It's not like the strength of his like if he's gonna make five, let him shoot it.
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Like if we lose today, because he shot it and made 15 points from behind the arc.
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We'll just take this loss today because that's not a normal thing.
00:20:32
When we see you next time, I guarantee you know they'll do the same thing.
00:20:36
But let me.
00:20:37
Actually this them with that being said, because now, with a B net, with Bradley not playing in this bubble situation in the playoffs, um, what do you think are like our death or currents timeline? It will look like, you know, with you know what, Maybe not being there, it's kind of tough, you know? Would you prefer to have Caruso who has the best plus minus, You know, with LeBron, you know, as anybody in the league, or would you prefer to have Jr in there who's played with LeBron and other situations, or, you know, what do you think that Lana will look like it's gonna be situational, I think.
00:21:08
But just what's today? KCP? The Lakers are 13 and one without Bradley, and that's largely because of KCP KCP Lakers Lakers fans bully KCP for like two years, man completely right with the Lakers.
00:21:23
Right? And part of that was one.
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He got a really big 20 million single year deal, which was huge, but he was playing with a lot of young guys. Lakers in transition.
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All of that wasn't his fault, but he got bullied.
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This year.
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He's been amazing.
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He's filled his role.
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So if you're gonna, if you're asking me who I think it should be their crunch time line up.
00:21:42
It's got to be Danny Green.
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It's got to be KCP LeBron 80.
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And then at that point, depending on the matchup, coups cause a deacon slide to the five Ordo.
00:21:51
I like the white a bit more than javale at the five personally, but I'm not going to start.
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I wanted to wait to start.
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Yeah, yeah, I'm with you on the white thing especially, You know, I'm looking at the Vale.
00:22:03
I think the veil brings a lot of positive things to table, But I look it just just it makes you were just how moved on before.
00:22:12
I you know, he seems to be behind.
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Sometimes play where someone has passed that that who's a bar or whatever.
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It's almost like the sales black.
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You can't make that switch.
00:22:26
So what? It comes with defense and rebounds.
00:22:28
I definitely Howard over to fail just running the floor.
00:22:33
I think I think our once a for better Bell's a great going up and get it.
00:22:41
But we're talking about running the four big man born before, how we're gonna get double according before, Get back on defense and office out of my brother.
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See our get minutes over.
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The difference between the diversity in javelin.
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Howard is once a former three time defensive player of the year, and you can see that Howard, even though he's athletically not the same as he was in Orlando, his mind.
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He's an intelligent basketball player, like I think he's someone else that kind of people have laughed at over the years, but you can see he can process information on the court in a way that I think he's just as valuable, say, a Rondo you know, way Rondo's mind works.
00:23:17
Howard sees these things.
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That's why I think would javale.
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Sometimes he he oversells the block right like he goes too hard for the block and maybe, but he might get faked or he's behind.
00:23:26
You know you don't have that issue with the White.
00:23:29
Well, that's one of the things that I really loved about this team this season.
00:23:32
We, in my opinion, we'd have the most or top three most intelligent teams in the league is not just that.
00:23:38
We have LeBron James and Anthony Davis.
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So aside from the talent, we have intelligent players with experience, like you said.
00:23:45
So the Whites.
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A three time defensive player of the year, Dwight made it to the finals on his own merit with his own team.
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So we have guys that yeah, some bad misfortunes happen, whether it be injuries or whether it be, you know, just the jokes in the media or whatever that caused them to net, you know, become who we thought they would be.
00:24:03
But Dwight is Dwight, and he's still to me better than most sensors in the league, you know, it's just that he had those injuries is back was for a long time, is just his back.
00:24:12
Just wouldn't get to where you know was supposed to be.
00:24:14
So how could he lead a team now? He's not even asked to lead.
00:24:18
He's just had to ask to go in there, get rebounds, some blacks, defense and he's having fun.
00:24:22
Man, I love it.
00:24:23
I just love the fund this team is having.
00:24:25
I can't wait.
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Can't wait minute.
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Empt.
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Yeah, these guys.
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There's a lot of jokes made about this roster construction in the off season by non Laker fans.
00:24:34
But yeah, I get Rob Pelinka credit man.
00:24:37
I think he's, I think, he's executive of the year.
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He won't get the credit because LeBron and Clutch, you know, people think that they're always the masterminds, and that's not to say that those guys aren't doing their own thing also, but police has done a really great job in the fact that he brought on guys like the White and they absolutely worked out.
00:24:53
I mean, Dwight has rehabbed his career.
00:24:55
I mean, even with Laker fans, Laker fans hated the white and now he's up at games like he got his hands up.
00:25:01
People chair for him. We're hoping he gets lobs.
00:25:04
His turnaround man even before Kobe past Kobe kind of embracing him and Dwight during some of those stories.
00:25:11
I mean, that's amazing.
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I'm messing with you and right you brought up properly because I was just say he deserves so much credit.
00:25:21
Preston actors all out with him and magic that all it down magic When I first think if we told everyone it looks like Laker Nation turn a lot linked of that Magic Johnson says this most linker pants are like OK, well, it probably looking back on it when he minute hold after a point that they realized magic here.
00:25:51
You're here because you know you work idol, you know, maybe working for your or more keen but more going to play in the court.
00:26:01
Like now we see what the Lincoln is willing to put in that work and not just not just finding pivotal free agent, you know, draft Lakers credible, especially with teen.
00:26:14
You see down there like watching what he looks like.
00:26:18
He's only 19 so no, it's like robbery is hitting all still in.
00:26:25
He's getting last Downing, signing free agents, coaching you know, people laughed with the whole, uh, they fell through.
00:26:36
We had Go on.
00:26:39
Uh, he's He's on the clippers now.
00:26:41
Why? Yeah, yeah.
00:26:43
No, that whole thing.
00:26:45
Now, look at what you do it, you know, And they they Last week I got started, cut you up.
00:26:56
I got a laugh at the Frank Vogel.
00:26:58
Think because here's the thing.
00:26:59
So I lived and I lived in Indianapolis when he was the coach of the Pacers.
00:27:04
There's a reason why it was very difficult for him to get a job after that Orlando gig.
00:27:09
So, in a sense, it was like, So we're really gonna hire, like, almost would have rather than put Jason Kidd as the head coach back then.
00:27:17
Um, obviously, like you said, Frank Vogel s, he's done a great job with his staff and the way the team was constructed.
00:27:23
But no, no, no.
00:27:24
Let's not give Frank too much of the credit.
00:27:27
He has LeBron Anthony Davis in a squad.
00:27:30
I'm telling, you know, look, man, when he was in Indiana, he had a team with Paul George.
00:27:34
He had Lance Stephenson when Lance was let's like when he was really good.
00:27:38
Yeah, it was good, Yeah, and a great way.
00:27:42
LeBron t Game six in the Eastern Conference finals Man like it was live.
00:27:46
I'm telling you, Frank, hey has questionable lineups and it's carrying over to the Lakers.
00:27:51
When I watched the games, I'm like, What, What's going on? That's so so I'm sorry to cut you off.
00:27:55
I hate doing that, but I had to stop you there because that's Frank is not the guy we think he is.
00:28:01
His lineups could be a bit dicey at times, and fortunately, he's got to all world superstars that can bail a lot of a lot of that out.
00:28:07
I also think it's in***bent on Broad Pelinka to sign the players that that make it so that Frank can't have questionable lineups right now.
00:28:14
This offseason, we waited on Kawai and I know we didn't get him, but I tell people all the time I would have done the same thing.
00:28:20
If the top five players, considering you you wait on that top player, he's a top 20 were having a different conversation.
00:28:25
But top five you wait and if he you know, he chose to go to the Clippers.
00:28:29
I think Robert Lincoln did as good a job constructing a roster, waiting on Kwai that you could head.
00:28:35
And the funny thing is, when when magic went and blasted Rob Pelinka on first take and I mean, that **** storm that that went on.
00:28:43
The funny thing is, I remember thinking So do you guys really think Kobe Bryant would have hired a man to handle his career? That wasn't intelligent? Like when when Wold said that he didn't know about the salary cap? Like, do you really think Kobe Bean Bryant was gonna hire an idiot? I come on, man, like I don't understand why people believe those narratives.
00:29:00
Yeah, well, another thing that you mentioned earlier about, like how people laugh at him and say what was really clutch? Listen, if if clutch is behind this like if they're the machine behind it, then Rob Pelinka deserved the credit to be smart enough to say, You know what? I'm bringing clash over, you know? Either way, however, you want to look at it, I'm giving Rob Pelinka this credit.
00:29:16
The guy is a genius, and I appreciate him coming to this team after, like you said, the **** show that we've had for.
00:29:23
I mean, this is the longest that I could ever say.
00:29:26
As the Lakers, man, I remember is not being good.
00:29:29
You don't mean so to get here now.
00:29:31
No, I'm absolutely giving Rapid Hlinka all the credit in the world and to your point.
00:29:35
Sometimes, like we've all worked at places where there's a leader that might have someone that works for them with them, that actually better suited.
00:29:41
And the leader doesn't step back.
00:29:42
The fact that he steps back if in case, look, clutches doing their thing right, like you get rich, Paul, that man, he's he's changed the game.
00:29:53
I mean, I mean, look, but look, what do you think the Lakers is? All you have to really do is not screw up, right? You are the Lakers, so long as you don't make it difficult for yourself.
00:30:04
And I think Rob Pelinka smart enough.
00:30:06
Unlike magic, magic is a celebrity.
00:30:08
Me, he sees magic, right? I mean, so it's hard from magic to not be front and center, but But you look at someone like Rob Pelinka.
00:30:17
He might be a games, but you don't see him doing interviews.
00:30:20
He's really behind the scenes.
00:30:21
He disappears when the games are over.
00:30:23
You don't hear anything negative coming out of the Lakers front office anymore, and I think that's a big credit to Rob Pelinka.
00:30:28
How they keep everything in house now.
00:30:30
Um, I'm excited for what this team can be.
00:30:33
Not just this season, but beyond.
00:30:35
Um, these dudes, man, I give look like I said, I think politicans executive of the year, he's not gonna get it, but I think he's executive of the year and get over it.
00:30:47
I think, um, I was having this discussion other day, man.
00:30:52
So who's the GM over there? Milwaukee balls name.
00:30:58
And I mean, they always loved Danny.
00:31:00
A change.
00:31:01
So you don't think that they're going to give it Teoh over the Clippers? It's years things.
00:31:07
So who's the fish Large? Crawford's official GM at the Clippers.
00:31:10
Right.
00:31:12
You need a list of GM, but Jerry West is, you know, people always they're gonna assume, even if large Frank is doing the job that Jerry West is really the guy.
00:31:19
So how do you give it to Lawrence? I don't know.
00:31:22
No, I agree.
00:31:23
What I'm saying is just based off of you know the way is gonna look is like they got Kawai.
00:31:26
They made the trade for Paul George.
00:31:28
They kept their core together without getting Yeah, they gave up a ton of first and stuff.
00:31:32
But what I'm saying is like they put together a team, I would always go Lakers because I'm biased.
00:31:37
But even without the bias, if you look at what Rob Pelinka did, man like just honestly, you just can't Well, I wouldn't give it anyone else.
00:31:45
Well, here's And here's the thing people say, Well, LeBron a clutch of the ones that got Anthony Davis to L.
00:31:50
A.
00:31:51
Well, Kawai and Paul George.
00:31:52
I mean, they admit it.
00:31:53
That call.
00:31:54
I was talking to Paul George about this whole trade thing to get that done.
00:31:56
So it isn't like the Clippers just had to not screw that up, which they didn't.
00:32:01
But so, I mean, if you won't give it Teoh Rob Pelinka, you can't give it to anyone at the Clippers because Kawai is an admitted guy who talked to Paul George.
00:32:10
Oh, and to go back on the Frank Vogel back that broke with the like of you Thought so.
00:32:22
He's surrounded him with kid and lighter and easier Now has a beast to take the Grizzlies to the Western Conference finals.
00:32:33
And there's a bunch of 50 who really did not like album Grizzlies fire Lionel Islands after making it, you know? But, you know, after he made it so hard, he fired for not being willing.
00:32:46
Teoh open to new things and things like that big store down here, but yeah, I mean a lot going to realize.
00:32:52
All right, Frank Vogel's our best head coach option.
00:32:55
So let me let me surround him.
00:32:57
But the absolute best assistant coaches that I can gotta keep in line and not do those lab rotations that you, unfortunately, stalled so much in Indiana.
00:33:07
You also got a lot for any.
00:33:09
Actually got a lot further than anything what they did.
00:33:11
Because, like I said, yeah.
00:33:13
Who just just dollars totally with you, but yeah, Rock Kalinka did the smart thing and surrounding him with Stalin assistant coaches to make sure he makes those right position.
00:33:24
Well, let me close out of here on this, um, jeans.
00:33:27
You mentioned THC tailing Horton Tucker.
00:33:29
A lot of Lakers fans want to want him to get some burn and that young man, I think he has a bright future.
00:33:34
He has a 74 wingspan, and they say his hands is just a shy, smaller than collides hands, which we know are massive.
00:33:41
I think he's got a bright future and he signed a clutch right.
00:33:43
And so when I hear people say, well, he needs to play more Look, if Clutch wanted him to play more, he tried.
00:33:49
He will be playing more right.
00:33:51
And But also, let's not rush this guy's career.
00:33:54
He The truth is he wasn't a number one overall pick where you expect him to come right in and play. Sometimes.
00:33:59
Give these guys time to kind of get their bodies right and learn the game.
00:34:03
No one rushed Kawai out there.
00:34:04
Now look like, Why do we have this expectation that these guys gotta play immediately? I don't understand that.
00:34:10
What do you guys think? I agree, Which is like the Kawai point when he first was Kawai in San Antonio.
00:34:17
Like even his M v P from the championship is still questionable to people.
00:34:22
Well, he didn't dominate the series.
00:34:24
He only got it by Weber Black.
00:34:26
So same thing, abs element.
00:34:29
He's gonna be special, I think. Especially.
00:34:32
I saw a clip from him yesterday, and I'm like the Brandon Ingram put on weight, but I had to really look at it.
00:34:37
That guy's a Hooper man like I can't wait for him to get some time next season.
00:34:42
Yeah, it's It's weird how bad players expected.
00:34:45
Players come in and produce immediately.
00:34:48
Um, you know, they don't They don't believe in the ba*****t.
00:34:51
Caught the farming system that they don't believe arms.
00:34:54
Yeah, that's what Lakers were doing, Lakers, saying.
00:34:56
We have a really talented guy who I, who we think just needs to more polished him here.
00:35:02
There needs to get some reps head.
00:35:04
So it's that I bring it up and getting absolutely crushed by any gay players, and now his confidence and self esteem is calling.
00:35:12
Let's keep him down here and continue to develop, get his confidence at an all time.
00:35:17
I get itself a Stephen all time.
00:35:19
I am learned from the best people in the business while he's down there.
00:35:24
So when we bring him up to you know, the big league baseball in, he'll be ready to go.
00:35:30
You already know the ins and outs the little small me up.
00:35:34
You know, things that he that he needs to know.
00:35:35
All right, I need to edge this screen.
00:35:37
I had to go under the screen.
00:35:39
Well, small things like that.
00:35:40
He's learning in the really that's really important.
00:35:44
Nothing, nothing.
00:35:45
A lot of teams need to take it bands with that.
00:35:47
No, just because you drafted a technical guy.
00:35:50
Don't just throw him out there.
00:35:51
If you think he's not ready, let him in.
00:35:53
The GE li let him develop were 1 to 3 years.
00:35:57
It's OK, especially if they're 18 19.
00:36:00
That's really young, Great.
00:36:01
The military for 2021 when they've grown into a band body mentally and physically and then you'll get better results instead of guys like like Josh.
00:36:10
Toby I remember him.
00:36:11
He was really talented, you know, Everyone's like he's gonna be amazing lead.
00:36:15
He was out very much because all that tally wasn't up here either.
00:36:19
He had all the talent in the world, but he wasn't ready up here.
00:36:23
So that's why he didn't last did I think, putting, leaving intensity in the really when he had developmentally, it's gonna be really, really been official.
00:36:32
Put it in the next 23 years.
00:36:34
Yeah, I agree with you, man.
00:36:35
If people think that they're gonna just bring him in and throw him down there and the bubble also, which is unprecedented, I think that it's a bit too much, I think Just wait.
00:36:45
We have enough firepower on this team to win a championship, and I think folks need to just step back.
00:36:50
Best record in the West second record overall overall.
00:36:53
Before way had this pandemic, you saw the Lakers wouldn't be Milwaukee and the Clippers back to back games.
00:37:00
I mean, and you know, we talk about Rondo having a good shooting game and teams daring him and that first loss to Milwaukee.
00:37:06
Yonas hit five of 83 pointers.
00:37:08
You honestly, hitting 583 points every game against the Lakers like Come on, folks.
00:37:12
He's a bad man, but they had to play exceptionally well to beat the Lakers at night.
00:37:17
So that's how I see it, man.
00:37:20
Jean Spence, I appreciate you coming on for this.
00:37:23
This this, uh, last minute conversation about J.
00:37:25
R. Smith and all things Lakers man.
00:37:28
Uh, genes.
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May I go and tell everybody how they confined you, how they can find all the work that you do.
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Whatever goes out there, it's where you go, you know? So you want to follow me on Twitter afterwards? And old at underscore for all things basketball gives jeans and follow give overtime aerobics to follow.
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I'm affiliate with those guys.
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They they do Good work over there, man.
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Spence, man. Go ahead.
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Plug away, man.
00:38:18
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That's I'm a contributor for Buffalo fanatics who obviously cover the Buffalo Bills.
00:38:32
For the most part, actually, I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
00:38:37
Me and to me and genius before we got on.
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We had a moment there where I'm like, Why are you wearing this giant shirt, man? But but, yes, I'm a contributor for Buffalo fanatics and everything.
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Buffalo, Like you said, everything's Lakers.
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But I'm also doing some things with Alex coming up in the future.
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Short in the near future here, where I'm actually excited to be a contributor with with some Lakers content.
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Welcome to Laker Central, where I discussed the most famous basketball team on the planet with the biggest, brightest and up and coming voices and sports the culture.
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Subscribers are eligible for special giveaways, but we got big news breaking news.
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The Lakers are going to sign J. R.
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Smith for the rest of season, according to multiple sources.
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So wanna welcome on a couple of Lakers fans that cover the N B A.
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First my man spends Pennington, host of the code of conduct podcast Spence Man was going on.
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Hey, man, thank you for having me.
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I'm excited about I'm excited Basketballs back.
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So I know we got a month now that we're counting down, but I'm with it, man.
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And last, but certainly not least, metal man Darren Genes of overtime heroics.
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He runs the basketball department.
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There was going on jeans.
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What's going on? Thank you for having me here.
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Is almost here.
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Well, guys, I mean, look, JR is a Laker now, right? Or he will be.
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I don't think that he's officially signed, but Marc Stein was the first to break the news.
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Then woes and everybody else followed up.
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Um, so I want to get your thoughts on what he brings even before what he brings to the table.
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But just your overall opinion of J. R.
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Smith and Spence.
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Let's start with you, man.
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Well, I'm actually a J.
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R.
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Smith fan.
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I liked him in Cleveland with LeBron.
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I liked, really I just like J.
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R.
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Smith.
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But I guess for me I was a little taken back because I was one of the fans that I'm in the camp where I feel like we might have looked at Crawford.
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You know, I think that the Lakers really need scoring off the bench, and a lot of people in Twitter's kind of yelled at me like a Dion.
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That's what we got going on for now.
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True, but personally, I just haven't been sold on beyond yet, just based off what I've seen in the past room.
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Hopefully, he could be the guy that we need him to be.
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But, um, you know, I was looking forward to hopefully getting a workout for Crawford in, but but Jr is the guy.
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I'm not.
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I'm not upset at all.
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I think this is definitely, um, a weapon that could be used.
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You know, if the team is you, if they utilise them correctly, it can absolutely be a benefit.
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Obviously, for LeBron, to be a benefit for the bench is gonna be fun.
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You know, I love the signing.
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I do.
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What do you think? Jeans.
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I'm with him.
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Uh, it's a little weird that operators not finding it's almost like he said he did something.
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And there it is. Weird.
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That morning.
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Well, shooting, I I guess out offered to have what they are.
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They are, has it big stop.
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Before we thought what he could do in Cleveland with LeBron excluding that one boneheaded move where he did not shoot, Man, that area is a point of rest.
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Kind of doing things that's gonna make you shake your head and be like, Why do that? At the same time we complained that that's gonna three things like big shots in big moments.
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So is to get signing.
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I'm with, you know, You know, I my father have him did not find Yeah.
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I mean, when avery Bradley decided not to resume basket with the Lakers, at least breast in the season.
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Smith was my number one guy.
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I mean, the options are limited as it stands anyway.
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It's not like, you know, we have all these great guys that are available, but I think one Smith having a relationship with LeBron in Cleveland playing for three seasons there.
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If you, if you're comfortable of LeBron, likes you that that's half the battle right.
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That might be the whole battle if you've got relation, LeBron.
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But then, beyond that, When the Lakers were looking to add some additional bench players earlier this season, Smith did work out already.
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They just happen to go, Dion waiters.
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So Smith already have a relationship with Rob Pelinka and working out with Lakers, apparently having a relationship a good relation with LeBron James.
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That basically said everything to me.
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I wouldn't have mind if they worked out Crawford or somebody else.
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But I wonder if because of the current pandemic, maybe it's just hard to get anyone else to NATO work out like they had already seen Smith.
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I mean, it just might have been impossible.
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Bring someone else and physically get a workout.
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Yeah, I could see that with with a lot of players and teams right now is just like you said, the dynamic of getting those workouts, physicals and, you know, across all of sports, you know, leagues, not just the n B a.
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So now that's that.
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That's a great point.
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I just like I said, I'm just that fan that I felt like we had a ton of time prior to the pandemic that I thought we should have been looking at.
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People and Jr was one that I was like You said, I do feel like he's a great player and he will benefit the team.
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But Crawford, he's somebody I've been.
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Honestly, I've been trying to figure out the whole season why he hasn't been on a roster of why he wasn't being looked at.
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Yeah, Jackie.
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I mean, we were thinking about Crawford, and I mean crop.
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It's I think he's a phenomenal player, but I think he's been out of the N B a longer than Smith, right? I mean, Smith has been health and be at least what a year, year and 1/2.
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So J.
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R.
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I mean, but ah That's the thing.
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Also, in a year which, well, for Smith first met the thing Crawford is going, This is like second season.
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So, yeah, we're Smith.
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I think he played, like, what, 11 games for Cleveland, And they kind of banished him, if you will, when? And I just got back on offer, you know, it's it's just like I said earlier.
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It's almost like because his last game, he likes you.
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You like 50.
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It's not like she can't wait.
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It's almost like something he did or safe are.
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Things is to him, other leak.
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That's because I don't know what it is that look him or even give him a work.
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You know, I understand they're getting a workout and you just don't hoard with the work out there, just like you don't have any more.
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But they're not even doing in the workout.
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So at at this point, you gotta think, all right, something's going on.
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No one said something.
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He said something or he said something, someone that's basically keeping them out.
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I mean, I wonder if you know he's waiting for the right situation.
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Obviously, I think he would play for the Lakers.
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That they called a probably play for almost any of the contenders.
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Right? The Clippers, Lakers, Raptors books.
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I'm sure you play for any of those squads.
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Um, one of the things I think is a major difference between Crawford and J.
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R.
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Is they both could get hot.
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And I think Crawford probably get hotter than Jr.
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But Crawford is more than Isil.
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Player versus Jr comes off screens.
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He's Oh, I I think that maybe he fits a little bit more with the Lakers won it.
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I mean, he can't replace Avery Bradley's on ball defense, his intensity, but I think he brings something different in that he's off all.
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He's bigger, he's 66 and the Lakers already have small guards.
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I mean, Green is 67 but outside of that, the Lakers guard, they're really small.
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So he brings some size.
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Um, and I think maybe he's looking for a way to redeem himself.
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I mean, he's like he's one of the NBA's mean guys, right? Like there's all these means and stuff about J. R.
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And you look at the Lakers track record this particular season, bring it in guys like Javale, Dwight Dion, guys that really the rest of lead kind of laughs at or doesn't want.
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The Lakers have given opportunity to guys that maybe nobody else wants, and so far they've all shined as Lakers this year.
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Yeah, for sure.
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Um, aspires the comment, though, about Crawford being an isil player.
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In my opinion, you know, in my opinion, the reason why I wanted Crawford is because I think we need that when the bronze on the bench.
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Um, so I understand the J.
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R.
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Smith Road, but I think he's gonna be playing a lot more with LeBron.
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I was more so looking for Crawford to come off the bench.
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So, like you and I spoke about previously when, um, when LeBron goes off the floor and it's Rondo leading, you know, being the point guard or whoever, it just seems like the ball doesn't move it off, or it just seems like we don't score.
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Even if 80 is in the game, scoring just seems to slow down.
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So if you have 80 and then you throw Crawford in there and you have a guy who can create his own opportunities one on one and really just be a bucket, give US 15 a game off the bench.
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To me, that's what I was looking forward to with Crawford, if we would have given him that shot.
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But like you said, I mean, it's still I'm not saying anything about Jr.
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I'm happy about the signing.
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I think it's going into this, especially this situation.
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His familiarity with LEBRON, like you mentioned is gonna is gonna you know, you don't have the time to jail as a unit.
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So to bring somebody in who is already familiar with the way LeBron likes to operate is gonna, you know, is gonna benefit us. No doubt.
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I think that's a big part of it.
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Um, his familiarity with LeBron already.
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I mean, these guys don't have a lot of time to kind of get used to each other again.
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The Lakers are veteran squad, so if any team can kind of bring someone new in the Lakers certainly can.
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But James, let me ask you this.
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If they would have looked at someone like Crawford, do you think there's too much of an overlap between Crawford skill set and say, Dion waiters Skill set? Yeah.
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I mean, if you look it, that's a good question because Dion waiters is kind of that player, that kind of mention You're hoping the waiter is that guy who are at the bottom.
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Come on the bit.
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Now we need to fire fire.
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They're hoping Demers kind of that guy who could give them that 8 to 12.
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Always that they need in that stretch where the Lakers have kind of small doubt because right, once LeBron goes out, came leaving with 84.
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You can tell, office stressed.
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That's why we want for reading Big lead.
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Because once it gets off before, it's like art singing kind of slow down and kind of go to the post.
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It's almost like a animal veteran.
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Thing she did was like, You know, we got two recorders left We're gonna worry about, you know, moves in a 12 point lead.
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How can I get it? But you still want to have that one guy who could cheat that float.
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And that's something that I think they are kind of who? But Crawford and Dion? Probably what they were kind of thinking the promises.
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Yeah, we can call offered, but we're kind of hoping Dean on is that guy so we already have a Jamal Crawford, if you know.
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So let's just hope Dion is.
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That guy that comes in is a bucket fourth they are.
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Is that coming off Springs? You know, backing down or not? Gonna have no shot.
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But he needs to be loved.
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Yes, and I'm wondering, certainly with someone like Crawford, like Crawford, his range is much deeper than Dionne's, right? I mean deok and shoot 23 but Crawford congest.
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He could pull up **** it, half court and he can hit a kid in three D On is Maura take you off the dribble? Mid range a little bit.
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He could certainly step back into three.
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But while there is some overlap there some subtle differences and I think you know Jade, you mentioned this.
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The on off numbers for LeBron versus Anthony Davis is nuts, right? I mean, look, LeBron, especially 80 and LeBron or special, right? But LeBron is like we're talking top top five.
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Some people call him the greatest he's on.
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He's on a world all by himself.
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Only a handful of guys, right? Currently, Anthony Davis has clearly won the top five players and MBA, but yeah, the same issues.
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He has an L.
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A.
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When he's on the court as like the only guy he had him in in in New Orleans.
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Also, it builds like in this day and age, and you've got a big even if he's especiales Anthony Davis, you better have another guy on that court that can create take pressure off ahead because then the defense just sags completely on Anthony Davis.
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If you have someone out there like Rondo, who can't really shoot, he assists us.
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I mean, he was.
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He was great 10 years ago, but he you know, he's He's not what we need him to be right now, right? So the Lakers need someone that can score.
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When you mentioned the name Rondo, I got out.
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I just got depressed immediately.
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I'm sorry he improved his shooting.
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He's his three point shooting has obviously improved, but that's the area that I felt like we didn't need for him to improve.
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So while I appreciate has approved, his improvement is like, No, we need you toe actually handle the ball properly.
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We need you to make good passes.
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We need you to play defense.
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We don't need his good Well, you know, it's no secret that watching want this years, and there's no secret about that.
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Um, I think when they sign here, they had this vision of Ron and Wanda.
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You know, the two of the best, you know, not only passes, but true nature offense.
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You know, you go back around, especially off years.
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I mean, is this distance assist for gay Were 14 15 16.
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Um, that's kind of what they kind of had it right when they brought, um and as I had, Yeah.
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What? You shoot threes there is, But he's gonna give us that other LeBron type person on the fastbreak offices.
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Slow work.
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When a team that plays half court, who needs to want to create offense, that that's where we're hoping out of that it's really frustrating.
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I mean, like ice Prince.
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Absent mentioned, it says that he's not doing what you want, what you were brought, but no.
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Even with that being said, you know Yes, I with with the Lakers bringing it, they are, and you have outscored.
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So you have, you know, still guards that are ankle playing.
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Does this kind of make global bring down from the minutes, Or do you think it's the same or go? Look, man, in my opinion, Rondo's minutes got to come down like like Caruso needs to play a little bit more.
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The issue is, is that you know Crusoe has never been in the playoffs, right? Like first off, you got this bubble situation that no player has been in.
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But guys like LeBron who literally live in a bubble.
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I mean, I'm sure he will be OK, right? It's so anti Davis and some of the veterans.
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Caruso another hand.
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He could be a little susceptible to ball pressure, and I think that's why he struggles, sometimes playing the point.
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But I think he's a fine player.
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I think he's he's made leaps, He's easy cheese.
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He's gotten much better year over year for the Lakers, and so I think he needs to play Mawr.
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And so, if if the Lakers were gonna bring in j R D J R nd on and Caruso's minister going to take a step back, I think that's it. The wrong way to go.
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I think Rondo's minutes need to take a step back.
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Yeah, I agree with you.
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I think Rondo if if I were Frank and I'm not, obviously if would be coaching.
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But if I was him at this point, he wouldn't really get any minutes right now at all.
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He would serve more of that mentor role to the other guards.
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Um, I just think that his his intelligence is off the charts.
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You know, just because he's intelligent doesn't mean that his game play catches.
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So now is just that thing.
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When you get older, your body can't do what your mind thinks that can't anymore.
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So I just think at this point he should be helping the young guys figure out film when they come in off the time out saying, You know, look at this. Look at the play.
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This is what they're doing to you, you know, like, be that role.
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I don't need to see him one of court anymore.
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I just don't at least now the Lakers you before.
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But see, I think that's the thinking.
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I think Rondo still has the respect of his teammates, which he should, because I think he will end up getting in the Hall of Fame. The man's a champion.
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Even Kobe Bryant vouch warm, right? I mean, so he's got the respect of his teammates.
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I think spent your point is right.
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He's better served almost like an extension of Jason Kidd.
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You try to teach what, trying to teach the place, what you already know, what you can see on the floor, because you could be on that bench of see things and then you get out there and you're You can't react physically the way that your mind is because he's not an old man, but by basketball standards.
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Here he's he's a little long in the tooth, and I think that that's where I think he could be most successful on the bench.
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Teaching the issue is that I think his teammates believe in him.
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I think there's still a Smith, the playoff Rondo, and that was like two years ago in itself.
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Man, you know, like people there still fans on my time line.
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I'm sure you guys as well that, like still believe in Rondo and full disclosure.
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If you put on the Laker jersey, I want you to do well appear in the game.
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But realistically, he doesn't have it made.
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Yeah, well, realistically, when you came on the code of conduct podcast.
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I told you, Realistically, I'm just have a tough time rooting for Rondo.
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Anyway, Just do train coming from the Celtics.
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Just him being a Celtic in him, winning a championship as a Celtic to me, It just it just I'm sorry.
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I know some like your fans, you know, because I know we had a discussion about LeBron people giving him a tough time.
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To me, it's a little bit different.
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I think it's a different conversation and just completely LeBron to me that converse A It's like a Kobe conversation when we're talking about Rondo.
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No, you're a Celtic man.
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You're so sick. I can't.
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This is Paul Pierce joining Lakers.
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I can't do it. Won't.
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Well, Paul Pierce, At least he's from L.
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A. Right Thinking grew up in Inglewood.
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I believe he did.
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And what the Lakers family was a kid just going Jeez going? Yeah, I wonder.
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I mean, and this is in this, you know, people really want Rondo there being something off.
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What we kind of want to be or take a step back and just gonna be a win for two guys.
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Like so I chased, you know, people that's nice to turn a rule that I think he's best now, I think was helping in this.
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We have kind of an older generation coaches back while you have.
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They bond, even even when he's performing, though they think no.
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Rondo's one of the smartest players.
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So what are you blabbing not gonna sit him down? They're not gonna because there is no warrant.
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He needs t be a more of a bench player or Vega been towards type player is not gonna happen because you got you got I'm not talking about a like about about status.
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Just that's how they are.
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Their old generation and the bowing players like Juan do are the four is that the office isn't right. I don't know.
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We're still first in the wife.
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I would have been pushing.
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So no.
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Now we're kind of looking at things that are perfect and trying to say, Hey, this is a perfect Let's make it perfect.
00:19:01
I think that's that's the biggest thing that holding it like the fact is, the whole wander.
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I don't know how we got from.
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They want Honda with you.
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So it is what it is because I've always thought that wonder is that cheap teens for us and Cruz, but before it? Wanda is that piece for us when it comes to winning Idol and making the Western proper final.
00:19:25
Cuando if we're getting what we read out of here, I truly don't at that boy work I'm doing.
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But if it were getting this Rondo Yeah, right out.
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It's gonna be tough talk because because when he comes in the game, he tried to bottle over his close game, their struggles a lot.
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There's no ball movement.
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You can sing it.
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No difference when he's running the offense.
00:19:49
When Rondo warning it compared to a bar, I think the issue of Rondo.
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There's a number of issues at this point, but I think that one of the key things specific this Lakers team is.
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If you play him with LeBron, his skill set becomes redundant, right? Like you don't want to take the ball and LeBron's hands and it's not like Rondo could stand in the corner and hit threes.
00:20:07
But then, if you play Rondo with Anthony Davis, all of a sudden, the defense *** completely.
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Often, Rondo dares him to shoot, and if he happens to hit 53 pointers in the game.
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The defense is going to take that all day long because they're gonna dare him to shoot anyway, They said it's not normal for Rondo.
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It's not like the strength of his like if he's gonna make five, let him shoot it.
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Like if we lose today, because he shot it and made 15 points from behind the arc.
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We'll just take this loss today because that's not a normal thing.
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When we see you next time, I guarantee you know they'll do the same thing.
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But let me.
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Actually this them with that being said, because now, with a B net, with Bradley not playing in this bubble situation in the playoffs, um, what do you think are like our death or currents timeline? It will look like, you know, with you know what, Maybe not being there, it's kind of tough, you know? Would you prefer to have Caruso who has the best plus minus, You know, with LeBron, you know, as anybody in the league, or would you prefer to have Jr in there who's played with LeBron and other situations, or, you know, what do you think that Lana will look like it's gonna be situational, I think.
00:21:08
But just what's today? KCP? The Lakers are 13 and one without Bradley, and that's largely because of KCP KCP Lakers Lakers fans bully KCP for like two years, man completely right with the Lakers.
00:21:23
Right? And part of that was one.
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He got a really big 20 million single year deal, which was huge, but he was playing with a lot of young guys. Lakers in transition.
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All of that wasn't his fault, but he got bullied.
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This year.
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He's been amazing.
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He's filled his role.
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So if you're gonna, if you're asking me who I think it should be their crunch time line up.
00:21:42
It's got to be Danny Green.
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It's got to be KCP LeBron 80.
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And then at that point, depending on the matchup, coups cause a deacon slide to the five Ordo.
00:21:51
I like the white a bit more than javale at the five personally, but I'm not going to start.
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I wanted to wait to start.
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Yeah, yeah, I'm with you on the white thing especially, You know, I'm looking at the Vale.
00:22:03
I think the veil brings a lot of positive things to table, But I look it just just it makes you were just how moved on before.
00:22:12
I you know, he seems to be behind.
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Sometimes play where someone has passed that that who's a bar or whatever.
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It's almost like the sales black.
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You can't make that switch.
00:22:26
So what? It comes with defense and rebounds.
00:22:28
I definitely Howard over to fail just running the floor.
00:22:33
I think I think our once a for better Bell's a great going up and get it.
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But we're talking about running the four big man born before, how we're gonna get double according before, Get back on defense and office out of my brother.
00:22:50
See our get minutes over.
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The difference between the diversity in javelin.
00:22:55
Howard is once a former three time defensive player of the year, and you can see that Howard, even though he's athletically not the same as he was in Orlando, his mind.
00:23:04
He's an intelligent basketball player, like I think he's someone else that kind of people have laughed at over the years, but you can see he can process information on the court in a way that I think he's just as valuable, say, a Rondo you know, way Rondo's mind works.
00:23:17
Howard sees these things.
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That's why I think would javale.
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Sometimes he he oversells the block right like he goes too hard for the block and maybe, but he might get faked or he's behind.
00:23:26
You know you don't have that issue with the White.
00:23:29
Well, that's one of the things that I really loved about this team this season.
00:23:32
We, in my opinion, we'd have the most or top three most intelligent teams in the league is not just that.
00:23:38
We have LeBron James and Anthony Davis.
00:23:40
So aside from the talent, we have intelligent players with experience, like you said.
00:23:45
So the Whites.
00:23:46
A three time defensive player of the year, Dwight made it to the finals on his own merit with his own team.
00:23:51
So we have guys that yeah, some bad misfortunes happen, whether it be injuries or whether it be, you know, just the jokes in the media or whatever that caused them to net, you know, become who we thought they would be.
00:24:03
But Dwight is Dwight, and he's still to me better than most sensors in the league, you know, it's just that he had those injuries is back was for a long time, is just his back.
00:24:12
Just wouldn't get to where you know was supposed to be.
00:24:14
So how could he lead a team now? He's not even asked to lead.
00:24:18
He's just had to ask to go in there, get rebounds, some blacks, defense and he's having fun.
00:24:22
Man, I love it.
00:24:23
I just love the fund this team is having.
00:24:25
I can't wait.
00:24:26
Can't wait minute.
00:24:27
Empt.
00:24:29
Yeah, these guys.
00:24:30
There's a lot of jokes made about this roster construction in the off season by non Laker fans.
00:24:34
But yeah, I get Rob Pelinka credit man.
00:24:37
I think he's, I think, he's executive of the year.
00:24:39
He won't get the credit because LeBron and Clutch, you know, people think that they're always the masterminds, and that's not to say that those guys aren't doing their own thing also, but police has done a really great job in the fact that he brought on guys like the White and they absolutely worked out.
00:24:53
I mean, Dwight has rehabbed his career.
00:24:55
I mean, even with Laker fans, Laker fans hated the white and now he's up at games like he got his hands up.
00:25:01
People chair for him. We're hoping he gets lobs.
00:25:04
His turnaround man even before Kobe past Kobe kind of embracing him and Dwight during some of those stories.
00:25:11
I mean, that's amazing.
00:25:14
I'm messing with you and right you brought up properly because I was just say he deserves so much credit.
00:25:21
Preston actors all out with him and magic that all it down magic When I first think if we told everyone it looks like Laker Nation turn a lot linked of that Magic Johnson says this most linker pants are like OK, well, it probably looking back on it when he minute hold after a point that they realized magic here.
00:25:51
You're here because you know you work idol, you know, maybe working for your or more keen but more going to play in the court.
00:26:01
Like now we see what the Lincoln is willing to put in that work and not just not just finding pivotal free agent, you know, draft Lakers credible, especially with teen.
00:26:14
You see down there like watching what he looks like.
00:26:18
He's only 19 so no, it's like robbery is hitting all still in.
00:26:25
He's getting last Downing, signing free agents, coaching you know, people laughed with the whole, uh, they fell through.
00:26:36
We had Go on.
00:26:39
Uh, he's He's on the clippers now.
00:26:41
Why? Yeah, yeah.
00:26:43
No, that whole thing.
00:26:45
Now, look at what you do it, you know, And they they Last week I got started, cut you up.
00:26:56
I got a laugh at the Frank Vogel.
00:26:58
Think because here's the thing.
00:26:59
So I lived and I lived in Indianapolis when he was the coach of the Pacers.
00:27:04
There's a reason why it was very difficult for him to get a job after that Orlando gig.
00:27:09
So, in a sense, it was like, So we're really gonna hire, like, almost would have rather than put Jason Kidd as the head coach back then.
00:27:17
Um, obviously, like you said, Frank Vogel s, he's done a great job with his staff and the way the team was constructed.
00:27:23
But no, no, no.
00:27:24
Let's not give Frank too much of the credit.
00:27:27
He has LeBron Anthony Davis in a squad.
00:27:30
I'm telling, you know, look, man, when he was in Indiana, he had a team with Paul George.
00:27:34
He had Lance Stephenson when Lance was let's like when he was really good.
00:27:38
Yeah, it was good, Yeah, and a great way.
00:27:42
LeBron t Game six in the Eastern Conference finals Man like it was live.
00:27:46
I'm telling you, Frank, hey has questionable lineups and it's carrying over to the Lakers.
00:27:51
When I watched the games, I'm like, What, What's going on? That's so so I'm sorry to cut you off.
00:27:55
I hate doing that, but I had to stop you there because that's Frank is not the guy we think he is.
00:28:01
His lineups could be a bit dicey at times, and fortunately, he's got to all world superstars that can bail a lot of a lot of that out.
00:28:07
I also think it's in***bent on Broad Pelinka to sign the players that that make it so that Frank can't have questionable lineups right now.
00:28:14
This offseason, we waited on Kawai and I know we didn't get him, but I tell people all the time I would have done the same thing.
00:28:20
If the top five players, considering you you wait on that top player, he's a top 20 were having a different conversation.
00:28:25
But top five you wait and if he you know, he chose to go to the Clippers.
00:28:29
I think Robert Lincoln did as good a job constructing a roster, waiting on Kwai that you could head.
00:28:35
And the funny thing is, when when magic went and blasted Rob Pelinka on first take and I mean, that **** storm that that went on.
00:28:43
The funny thing is, I remember thinking So do you guys really think Kobe Bryant would have hired a man to handle his career? That wasn't intelligent? Like when when Wold said that he didn't know about the salary cap? Like, do you really think Kobe Bean Bryant was gonna hire an idiot? I come on, man, like I don't understand why people believe those narratives.
00:29:00
Yeah, well, another thing that you mentioned earlier about, like how people laugh at him and say what was really clutch? Listen, if if clutch is behind this like if they're the machine behind it, then Rob Pelinka deserved the credit to be smart enough to say, You know what? I'm bringing clash over, you know? Either way, however, you want to look at it, I'm giving Rob Pelinka this credit.
00:29:16
The guy is a genius, and I appreciate him coming to this team after, like you said, the **** show that we've had for.
00:29:23
I mean, this is the longest that I could ever say.
00:29:26
As the Lakers, man, I remember is not being good.
00:29:29
You don't mean so to get here now.
00:29:31
No, I'm absolutely giving Rapid Hlinka all the credit in the world and to your point.
00:29:35
Sometimes, like we've all worked at places where there's a leader that might have someone that works for them with them, that actually better suited.
00:29:41
And the leader doesn't step back.
00:29:42
The fact that he steps back if in case, look, clutches doing their thing right, like you get rich, Paul, that man, he's he's changed the game.
00:29:53
I mean, I mean, look, but look, what do you think the Lakers is? All you have to really do is not screw up, right? You are the Lakers, so long as you don't make it difficult for yourself.
00:30:04
And I think Rob Pelinka smart enough.
00:30:06
Unlike magic, magic is a celebrity.
00:30:08
Me, he sees magic, right? I mean, so it's hard from magic to not be front and center, but But you look at someone like Rob Pelinka.
00:30:17
He might be a games, but you don't see him doing interviews.
00:30:20
He's really behind the scenes.
00:30:21
He disappears when the games are over.
00:30:23
You don't hear anything negative coming out of the Lakers front office anymore, and I think that's a big credit to Rob Pelinka.
00:30:28
How they keep everything in house now.
00:30:30
Um, I'm excited for what this team can be.
00:30:33
Not just this season, but beyond.
00:30:35
Um, these dudes, man, I give look like I said, I think politicans executive of the year, he's not gonna get it, but I think he's executive of the year and get over it.
00:30:47
I think, um, I was having this discussion other day, man.
00:30:52
So who's the GM over there? Milwaukee balls name.
00:30:58
And I mean, they always loved Danny.
00:31:00
A change.
00:31:01
So you don't think that they're going to give it Teoh over the Clippers? It's years things.
00:31:07
So who's the fish Large? Crawford's official GM at the Clippers.
00:31:10
Right.
00:31:12
You need a list of GM, but Jerry West is, you know, people always they're gonna assume, even if large Frank is doing the job that Jerry West is really the guy.
00:31:19
So how do you give it to Lawrence? I don't know.
00:31:22
No, I agree.
00:31:23
What I'm saying is just based off of you know the way is gonna look is like they got Kawai.
00:31:26
They made the trade for Paul George.
00:31:28
They kept their core together without getting Yeah, they gave up a ton of first and stuff.
00:31:32
But what I'm saying is like they put together a team, I would always go Lakers because I'm biased.
00:31:37
But even without the bias, if you look at what Rob Pelinka did, man like just honestly, you just can't Well, I wouldn't give it anyone else.
00:31:45
Well, here's And here's the thing people say, Well, LeBron a clutch of the ones that got Anthony Davis to L.
00:31:50
A.
00:31:51
Well, Kawai and Paul George.
00:31:52
I mean, they admit it.
00:31:53
That call.
00:31:54
I was talking to Paul George about this whole trade thing to get that done.
00:31:56
So it isn't like the Clippers just had to not screw that up, which they didn't.
00:32:01
But so, I mean, if you won't give it Teoh Rob Pelinka, you can't give it to anyone at the Clippers because Kawai is an admitted guy who talked to Paul George.
00:32:10
Oh, and to go back on the Frank Vogel back that broke with the like of you Thought so.
00:32:22
He's surrounded him with kid and lighter and easier Now has a beast to take the Grizzlies to the Western Conference finals.
00:32:33
And there's a bunch of 50 who really did not like album Grizzlies fire Lionel Islands after making it, you know? But, you know, after he made it so hard, he fired for not being willing.
00:32:46
Teoh open to new things and things like that big store down here, but yeah, I mean a lot going to realize.
00:32:52
All right, Frank Vogel's our best head coach option.
00:32:55
So let me let me surround him.
00:32:57
But the absolute best assistant coaches that I can gotta keep in line and not do those lab rotations that you, unfortunately, stalled so much in Indiana.
00:33:07
You also got a lot for any.
00:33:09
Actually got a lot further than anything what they did.
00:33:11
Because, like I said, yeah.
00:33:13
Who just just dollars totally with you, but yeah, Rock Kalinka did the smart thing and surrounding him with Stalin assistant coaches to make sure he makes those right position.
00:33:24
Well, let me close out of here on this, um, jeans.
00:33:27
You mentioned THC tailing Horton Tucker.
00:33:29
A lot of Lakers fans want to want him to get some burn and that young man, I think he has a bright future.
00:33:34
He has a 74 wingspan, and they say his hands is just a shy, smaller than collides hands, which we know are massive.
00:33:41
I think he's got a bright future and he signed a clutch right.
00:33:43
And so when I hear people say, well, he needs to play more Look, if Clutch wanted him to play more, he tried.
00:33:49
He will be playing more right.
00:33:51
And But also, let's not rush this guy's career.
00:33:54
He The truth is he wasn't a number one overall pick where you expect him to come right in and play. Sometimes.
00:33:59
Give these guys time to kind of get their bodies right and learn the game.
00:34:03
No one rushed Kawai out there.
00:34:04
Now look like, Why do we have this expectation that these guys gotta play immediately? I don't understand that.
00:34:10
What do you guys think? I agree, Which is like the Kawai point when he first was Kawai in San Antonio.
00:34:17
Like even his M v P from the championship is still questionable to people.
00:34:22
Well, he didn't dominate the series.
00:34:24
He only got it by Weber Black.
00:34:26
So same thing, abs element.
00:34:29
He's gonna be special, I think. Especially.
00:34:32
I saw a clip from him yesterday, and I'm like the Brandon Ingram put on weight, but I had to really look at it.
00:34:37
That guy's a Hooper man like I can't wait for him to get some time next season.
00:34:42
Yeah, it's It's weird how bad players expected.
00:34:45
Players come in and produce immediately.
00:34:48
Um, you know, they don't They don't believe in the ba*****t.
00:34:51
Caught the farming system that they don't believe arms.
00:34:54
Yeah, that's what Lakers were doing, Lakers, saying.
00:34:56
We have a really talented guy who I, who we think just needs to more polished him here.
00:35:02
There needs to get some reps head.
00:35:04
So it's that I bring it up and getting absolutely crushed by any gay players, and now his confidence and self esteem is calling.
00:35:12
Let's keep him down here and continue to develop, get his confidence at an all time.
00:35:17
I get itself a Stephen all time.
00:35:19
I am learned from the best people in the business while he's down there.
00:35:24
So when we bring him up to you know, the big league baseball in, he'll be ready to go.
00:35:30
You already know the ins and outs the little small me up.
00:35:34
You know, things that he that he needs to know.
00:35:35
All right, I need to edge this screen.
00:35:37
I had to go under the screen.
00:35:39
Well, small things like that.
00:35:40
He's learning in the really that's really important.
00:35:44
Nothing, nothing.
00:35:45
A lot of teams need to take it bands with that.
00:35:47
No, just because you drafted a technical guy.
00:35:50
Don't just throw him out there.
00:35:51
If you think he's not ready, let him in.
00:35:53
The GE li let him develop were 1 to 3 years.
00:35:57
It's OK, especially if they're 18 19.
00:36:00
That's really young, Great.
00:36:01
The military for 2021 when they've grown into a band body mentally and physically and then you'll get better results instead of guys like like Josh.
00:36:10
Toby I remember him.
00:36:11
He was really talented, you know, Everyone's like he's gonna be amazing lead.
00:36:15
He was out very much because all that tally wasn't up here either.
00:36:19
He had all the talent in the world, but he wasn't ready up here.
00:36:23
So that's why he didn't last did I think, putting, leaving intensity in the really when he had developmentally, it's gonna be really, really been official.
00:36:32
Put it in the next 23 years.
00:36:34
Yeah, I agree with you, man.
00:36:35
If people think that they're gonna just bring him in and throw him down there and the bubble also, which is unprecedented, I think that it's a bit too much, I think Just wait.
00:36:45
We have enough firepower on this team to win a championship, and I think folks need to just step back.
00:36:50
Best record in the West second record overall overall.
00:36:53
Before way had this pandemic, you saw the Lakers wouldn't be Milwaukee and the Clippers back to back games.
00:37:00
I mean, and you know, we talk about Rondo having a good shooting game and teams daring him and that first loss to Milwaukee.
00:37:06
Yonas hit five of 83 pointers.
00:37:08
You honestly, hitting 583 points every game against the Lakers like Come on, folks.
00:37:12
He's a bad man, but they had to play exceptionally well to beat the Lakers at night.
00:37:17
So that's how I see it, man.
00:37:20
Jean Spence, I appreciate you coming on for this.
00:37:23
This this, uh, last minute conversation about J.
00:37:25
R. Smith and all things Lakers man.
00:37:28
Uh, genes.
00:37:29
May I go and tell everybody how they confined you, how they can find all the work that you do.
00:37:32
Yes.
00:37:33
So I found me at on Twitter afterwards for you and, uh oh.
00:37:36
Th at overtime rule.
00:37:38
It's We wanted to work over there.
00:37:40
Al skin test weight.
00:37:43
Cover as much as we can.
00:37:45
Especially Laker.
00:37:46
I make sure our labor department is on this team.
00:37:49
June.
00:37:50
My personal apartments are mixture.
00:37:52
Whatever goes out there, it's where you go, you know? So you want to follow me on Twitter afterwards? And old at underscore for all things basketball gives jeans and follow give overtime aerobics to follow.
00:38:07
They really do good work.
00:38:09
I'm affiliate with those guys.
00:38:11
I'm in them group chats.
00:38:12
They they do Good work over there, man.
00:38:13
So make sure you follow them.
00:38:15
Spence, man. Go ahead.
00:38:17
Plug away, man.
00:38:18
Man, uh, as you see on the screen, my name is Jace.
00:38:21
Mr. King on Twitter. Follow me.
00:38:23
Right now I have a show called Code of Conduct with the King podcast.
00:38:27
That's I'm a contributor for Buffalo fanatics who obviously cover the Buffalo Bills.
00:38:32
For the most part, actually, I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
00:38:37
Me and to me and genius before we got on.
00:38:40
We had a moment there where I'm like, Why are you wearing this giant shirt, man? But but, yes, I'm a contributor for Buffalo fanatics and everything.
00:38:47
Buffalo, Like you said, everything's Lakers.
00:38:49
But I'm also doing some things with Alex coming up in the future.
00:38:52
Short in the near future here, where I'm actually excited to be a contributor with with some Lakers content.
00:38:58
So I'm Man, I'm I'm ready for this year.
00:39:01
I'm ready.
00:39:02
So don't don't don't give me too much, man.
00:39:03
We got some stuff coming.
00:39:04
It's going, Tonto.
00:39:05
Some big stuff I'm working on.
00:39:07
Which spans, man.
00:39:08
So appreciate both You guys make sure you're following.
00:39:11
Spence followed the code of conduct podcast man and buffalo fanatics.
00:39:14
Those guys do great work as well.
00:39:15
I think there's a lot of guys out there a lot of guys and women out there doing some really tremendous work.
00:39:20
I don't have blue check marks next to their names.
00:39:22
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00:39:24
Mark doesn't mean folks aren't putting in the work.
00:39:26
These dudes put in the work, as do the sites that they contribute to.
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So We appreciate you.
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You know how to find me, man.
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