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all right.
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Good morning, everybody.
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Monday, You know, we're the weekend Just flew by, Mike.
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It really, really, really Did.
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You know, I'm sitting here thinking like, Oh, hey, you know, Friday descended.
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You know, we had a nice full week, or we're hitting the weekend.
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And then just like that boom, it's over.
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And here we are once again, we're about to start a new month, a month, which will, you know, scheduled to feature some sports, but ah, yeah, We actually have some stuff to talk about.
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So without further ado, I do want to bring in my my co host.
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Ah, the 40 year old man himself.
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Mr.
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Mike, Debate Mike I would doing today on this fine, fine Monday.
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Uh, no.
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I'm doing well, my friend.
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Doing very, very well.
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And folks, if you did not think that the New England Patriots and one more left up their sleeve than you were sorely mistaken, and it's a good one.
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Uh, the made a pretty big free agency splash last night and, ah, very typical Patriot deal.
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Very low risk, Potentially very high reward.
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And I'll be honest.
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This is when I didn't see coming.
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This is one.
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I didn't think that the Patriots would entertain.
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Um, if I'm being extremely honest, that's one that I didn't think was necessary.
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But the more I broke this down a little bit last night after the word broke starting like the signing a little bit more and more with each passing minute.
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So, uh, without further ado, buddy, I won't steal your thunder kick off and let everybody know exactly what I'm talking about.
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As if they don't already know.
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Uh, then we'll have some some other stuff because it wasn't all sunshine and rainbows when it came to the Patriots last night either.
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No, this is This is clearly going to be a very patriots heavy show.
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I mean, it's just it's just how the news goes.
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And we kind of go with the news.
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Um, you know, we're obviously gonna talk a lot about Cam Newton here in a minute.
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Obviously, the punishment.
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Ah, I'm rolling my eyes if you're watching on camera, but we're gonna talk about the punishment that was handed down to the Patriots for the NFL's incompetence over the last 15 years.
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And, um, yeah, so But we do want to hear from you though, folks.
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Because I'm looking at my screen right now in the last text that we got was Mike is older than Spaceballs.
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So let's ramp up the text machine here.
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66 3108882 give us a call to we want to know if you're if you're a Patriots fan or if you're a Cam Newton fan, What do you think of the signing? We're gonna give you our opinion here in a minute.
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You know, just give us your thoughts.
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And of course, you know, if you want to chime in on ah, Spy Gate two, Electric Boogaloo, we will certainly entertain that as well.
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But the news of the day coming out of New England and ah, very, you know, strategically.
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Time to maybe, you know, perhaps you could see it that way, but, um, yeah, patriots have signed Cam Newton, former M V P.
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Quarterback Cam Newton.
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Now we've talked about Cam actually talked about Cam briefly on Friday because we're going over.
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Ah, Chris Simms have him top 10.
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When he wasn't even on a on a team.
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Well, kind on a team now.
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I I still I'm not unsure about that top 10 ranking.
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But I I guess, again, you know we'll have to see what happens because, you know, we all know his 2015 season and our friend John Sapa chatty ah gave put out a nice tweet first half of 2018 was was a very strong season for Camp two.
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And then it's just been a year and 1/2 of injury woes and and, you know, a couple of bad Carolina teams in the in the transition.
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So at the end of the day, the Patriots make a very shrewd move because I was one and we've talked about it a while.
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I thought, look, it was either going to be Brady or stick him because the Patriots, if they couldn't afford to sign assigned Tom Brady, they weren't gonna be able to go out and sign any other veteran quarterback.
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You know, the Andy Dalton's of the world.
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I just I would have, you know, felt sick to my stomach that they signed him to a contract.
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Um, and and Cam kind of fell into that same category in the sense and not the sick to my stomach, but the You just don't think that they're gonna be able to put that come on, track together and sign a guy who at the time did want, um, you know, a decent amount of money, just money that the Patriots don't have.
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I mean, not just for camp, for anyone, for that matter.
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Ah, the Patriots were able to get him on a veteran minimum deal, one that, you know, if it means this is when went.
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There's no losing scenario for the Patriots in this case.
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Um, so I again, I'm excited.
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I'm very intrigued by the move, because again, if if cams healthy, he's he's the type of quarterback that the Patriots have not had, obviously, because Brady is not a mobile athletic quarterback.
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So there's gonna be an added dimension to this offense that we just haven't seen and it's it's it doesn't make Cam better.
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I mean, Brady's still better quarterback folks were not Ah, you know, Patriots fans.
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I know people are excited and you have a right to be because again, not often.
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In fact, this has never happened that you replace a former M V P quarterback with another M V P quarterback in the same off season.
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That's just never happened before.
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So Beatrice fans should be excited.
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Um, he's not Tom Brady.
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No, no.
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One's Tom Brady.
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So this this isn't a knock on camp, but he has.
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There's Ah, there's a certain ceiling, certain ceiling that he can reach that really, uh, adds an entire entirely new level of intrigue to this Patriots.
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Ah, upcoming season.
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And, um, look, I believe there's gonna be a very there's gonna be a competition, um, a fair competition between him instead.
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Um, but I also don't think Bill Belichick is just going to bring him in to bring him in.
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So, to me, from what I've been saying for a while is I felt that well, Bella, check in the coaching staff must know enough about stadium that they trust him.
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Well, I'm not saying that they don't trust him, but maybe that level of trust isn't as high as I anticipated heading into this offseason.
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And to me, I think there's a very, very legitimate chance that Cam Newton can win the starting job.
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And, um, you know, I think Bill Belichick brought him in to do that.
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Ah, there's no other reason he's not bringing a minute. Teoh.
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Rejuvenate his career, revitalized his career.
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Do anything like that.
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I mean, this isn't a Colin Kaepernick situation where he's been and with league for several seasons.
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So I mean, Cam Newton was playing high quality football less than two seasons ago.
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So, um, it's just a matter of making sure he's healthy.
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So I I'm excited.
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I'm very intrigued by the move.
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And, um, definitely something to to break the monotony of what's been.
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Ah, pretty boring.
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45 months.
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Safer.
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Maybe the draft in a couple of news bits here and there.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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I mean, look, when this news broke last night, I'll be the first to admit the first thing that I thought of was All right, where's the fake account? Where are we finally going to get the reveal that this was not true? Um, it just didn't seem feasible.
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And it didn't seem possible to me right along that the Patriots would bring in Cam Newton and you hit on a few of those.
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One of the big reasons why is because of the lack of ability for the Patriots to be able to afford a contract such as the one the Cam was reportedly seeking.
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Now all right, folks, I understand that he took a very low ball deal.
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A very incentive laden deal is, I guess, is the way it's being.
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It's being categorized.
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And I think a lot of that is because of the late Nissen.
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The season We're on the threshold of training camps beginning, and I think Cam saw the handwriting on the wall so that most of the starting quarterback positions were entrenched.
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And I think he saw an ability to be able to come to New England and be able to play for arguably the best coach in NFL history.
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Definitely, in my opinion, the best coach in the league, this attack this point, Ah, very innovative offensive coordinator in Josh McDaniels.
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And if you don't think that was a big part of this folks, that's definitely a big part of it.
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Josh is really going to be able to open up the playbook and be able to expound upon what can condemn on the field.
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But what l card in all of this and you mansion at without any question, the mind of the wild card in all of this camp self.
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I mean, there's no question about it.
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He has to be healthy in order to be effective.
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Look, no one is questioning his promise on the field looking through its statistics last night, as I was writing up the summary of Cam coming to New England, he's posted at least 3000 passing yards and 300 rushing yards eat season from 2011 to 2018.
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That's not an easy task, folks.
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That sounds like a pretty impressive stat line.
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But when you take a look at what it takes to actually have to be able to throw for over 3000 yards and then run for over 300 as quarterback, it's pretty impressive on guy.
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I take my hat off to him for that.
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The other statistics that you have to be concerned about if you're a New England Patriot is that he only made two starts in the last 18 games and Carolina, and unfortunately, the 2019 season was absolutely injury riddled for Cam Newton, one of those injuries to his throwing shoulder.
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So you have to wonder what type of player that you're going to be getting now if healthy, he can your you You put it so perfectly that he can add another level, another dimension to this offense that we haven't seen that we just have not seen at any point during the Patriots tenure.
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I know they've had mobile quarterbacks come in.
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You can say that maybe even as far back is like Rohan, Davey and Michael Bishop that these guys could move around a little bit.
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Ah, that they brought in No Jacoby percent who could move the ball around a little bit? Say, which will? Jimmy G has some legs under him.
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He was able to move the ball a little bit.
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You know, using his legs don't discount.
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The fact that Jared Stadium can do all this and lost in all of the whole plot last night was the fact that I still believe Jared stood him just in the mix to start.
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That's not a knock for Cam Newton.
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Ah, that's not I was ridiculously accused of that on Facebook last night or you're just not a cam guy.
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So you're Of course you're gonna say that Stadium is going to say that has nothing to do with it.
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I actually like this signing a lot more as I see it.
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But let's not forget that the team is still very high onstage, and they did not draft a quarterback.
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That wasn't because they knew that Cam was their backup plan all along.
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They didn't draft a quarterback because they believe that Jarrett was ready to go look the bottom line.
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And this is a good point that a friend of mine made last night going back and forth on Twitter D.
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M's.
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We are experiencing an off season that we haven't seen before when it comes to lack of ability for players to come in, get the synergy, get the playing time and develop the command they need on the field, especially a new young quarterback taking over for a living legend in this area.
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And I don't exaggerate when I say not, according to some Boston media.
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But that's a different discussion.
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Yeah, that's a discussion for another day, Whatever teachers and I'm not gonna Yeah, exactly.
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Or later in the show, I'm sure we'll get into that.
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You built that We will.
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But in any case, what I what I did want Teoh at least put forth there is that look folks, the Patriots when it comes to developing Jarrett Stidham, nobody knows better.
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And you said this several times, my friend.
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Nobody knows better what this kid is capable of on the field than Bill Belichick and Josh McDaniels.
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They're the ones watching him.
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They're the ones that are enamored with this kid or lack thereof.
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The fact that they bring in Cam Newton doesn't necessarily believe that.
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What isn't necessarily to me indicate that they're not happy with what they see from Jared.
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It might indicate two things.
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What it might indicate is that Jared may need a little friendly competition to raise his game.
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That could end up working to Jared's advantage.
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If he comes in outperforms cam throughout all of training camp, and the Patriots believe they have the kid, they have this stuff, then they're gonna implant it, and they're gonna put him in there.
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But to judge Jarrett Stidham on an off season that he hasn't had the ability to really become the type of quarterback for this team that he needs to be, um could indicate that they wanted to go in a different direction and bring in some veteran competition.
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I think he's a like where? Oh yeah, I do believe they'll still carry Brian.
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I still believe they carry Brian.
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I still think that his scout team a***en and his ability to navigate this, Ah, this offense and run things in practices and what not makes him an invaluable part.
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I think that this is probably bad news for guys like Jamaar Smith or Brian working or trying to maybe, you know, push their way onto this team.
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I think it's practice water bus now for either one of those guys.
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But this could end up giving Jerrett the competition that he needs to win the starting job.
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If Cam comes in and he's healthy and clicking on all cylinders, I don't think there's anybody including myself.
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That wouldn't say Cam Newton is a better option than Jared stood him.
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At this point. He's got experience.
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He's an NFL MVP, He's dynamic, one of the more dynamic athletes I ever seen at the position.
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I love watching Cam and to me, I think this is something that could end up working so well for the Patriots.
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If it doesn't and he comes in and he's either not up to the challenge physically or just doesn't grass the playbook or for any reason.
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Then like you, said the Patriots fish, they cut bait.
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They're on Leon on the hook for just a little over a $1,000,000 in cap space.
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If they do cut him so very low risk, very high reward potential.
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I really do.
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I think this is a great signing for the New England Patriots, and I think this is a good landing spot for Cam Newton as well.
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You saw the message go out immediately last night.
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He's excited as you know what to be in New England, and I think he sees that.
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I think he sees the opportunity here.
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Where some Yeah, exactly.
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Some of the dynamic athletes that he's gonna have.
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You know, you can imagine that guys like, especially in the backfield, guys like Sony Michelle, Guys like James White guys like Damian Harris have to be licking their chops and salivating at this because all of a sudden this could open them up for additional running opportunities, knowing that teams are going to be zeroing in on the run because they know that if Cam is healthy, he can tuck the ball and run with the best of them.
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So this will give the Patriots a lot to work with.
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Well, and that's the thing to, And that's what I you know, when it started off my I guess my rant or my whatever you wanna call it saying, You know, this adds a different dimension.
00:20:01
Now again, I I want to emphasize this like he's not going to be better than Tom Brady is the best quarterback sense ever played the game.
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And again, I've said it before.
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I could make an argument that he's certainly still the best now.
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But that's that's not what we're talking about.
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So don't you know expectations have to be, ah tempered and you know not, you know, tryto make it out so that he has to be Tom Brady? No, but it doesn't mean that he can't have better seasons than what Tom has had in the past.
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I mean, hell, in 2015 he was the best player in the league.
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I mean, you know, they lost the Super Bowl, but I mean, his season was was phenomenal.
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And again, you don't necessarily That doesn't make you the best overall player you know, for the next few years, but for that year you were great.
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And if if camp can capture 75% of that with the defense that this team has and again, you know, it didn't work out last year with Harry and Mohammed Sunu for for a number of reasons, injuries being one of them, just all the different things we talked about before with the Patriots last year just didn't work out.
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Does that doesn't mean that I'm not high still on them.
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Um, I I do believe that these two are gonna have a really good season.
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I'm really excited about Harry, but you make a great point.
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All the signing, your introducing plays like Carpio's and and different sort of dynamic quarterback type plays that not only obviously give you Ah, something you didn't ever really see.
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But Tom, because of his limitations physically but in the style of quarterback in which he plays.
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But all of a sudden you're going to see different type of place that guys like Sony, Michelle and in James White guys that can catch and run, but all of a sudden now have that ability to Hey, if it's not open for the running back.
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Like you said Cam and his, you know, massive frame can just truck up the middle of the field and gain that yardage.
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And look, we've seen it.
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We've seen him all of a sudden takeoff in gained 30 40 yards because that's that's the type of player he can be.
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So, um, yeah, I mean it.
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Look, it z exciting.
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From a standpoint of that, the competition is going to be there again.
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Bill Bellatrix Not gonna bring in a player for for optics or for Toto Waste the spot he's bringing him in to give him a legitimate shot to start.
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And like you said, no, knock on Jarrett.
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Sit.
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Um, But if Cam is healthy and he's picking everything up and playing good, he's a far better option than Jared.
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Sit him because guess what? He's a first round overhaul.
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Pick it like you said former MVP's played and brought a team to a Super Bowl.
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Um so, uh, again, I mean this.
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This could only be a win win for the Patriots and the way things are set up Ah, we know that they are in cap hell right now, but next year that goes away and in the beauty of this contract being, um that at the most ticky cap, very most because if he does earn every single incentive that's on his contract, those air deemed not likely to be made.
00:23:08
So if he does earn those that gets tacked onto next year, where the Patriots have an abundance of cap space and again, if it works out, all of a sudden, you're looking at a chance to re sign a guy that will be 32 still as a few several years left of being a very good quarterback.
00:23:25
And all of a sudden you've done a pretty **** good job of replacing the greatest quarterback ever.
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And it's funny that you go from 199th pick overall to potential of a former first overall pick.
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So, yeah, absolutely.
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And, you know, again, I think that, um, you makes you make great points, my friend.
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You, you absolutely do.
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And the point that I keep coming back to with Cam is people are gonna point to the 2019 season and say, Well, this is the reason why he wasn't signed.
00:23:54
That's absolutely correct.
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That is the reason why he wasn't signed.
00:23:57
Disheartened to see a lot of the narratives that air starting to circulate this story and I really want to debunk a couple of them perfectly, Um or poignantly, I should say, not perfectly still little early folks still kicking in.
00:24:10
I'm still trying to formulate my words because articulate as I can but fell flat on that one.
00:24:15
But in any case, two stories that I do want or two narratives the Nets stories and narratives that I want to debunk first I keep seeing the term, Um, and it really it really upsets me, and it's an insult.
00:24:28
Um, I see publicity stunt PR stunt run around a lot.
00:24:33
Um, that's absolute garbage, folks.
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That is 100% garbage.
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The New England Patriots and Bill Belichick are bringing in Cam Newton because they believe he can contribute to this team.
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They like what they see on the field.
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They believe that there's a chance that he can come in and really contribute a lot.
00:24:50
Now, whether that's simply toe push Jarrett Stadium, which I don't think that's the reason that they're doing it, builds not playing head games with Cam and saying, Oh, we're gonna bring you in You know, this is not like her.
00:24:59
Brooks bringing in the kid from Minnesota, try to motivate Tonight we had no, no, no chance of him on the beautiful.
00:25:06
That's not what's going on here, folks.
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He's not bringing in Cam.
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Just a push.
00:25:10
Generally, Kyle makes a great point.
00:25:13
If they really wanted a PR stunt, they would have signed Colin Kaepernick.
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Absolutely.
00:25:17
That is my point.
00:25:18
And, you know, and and even then, if they signed Kaepernick, this is not a team.
00:25:23
This is not an organization or a franchise that's devoid of publicity, folks.
00:25:27
The New England Patriots have a lot of light on them.
00:25:30
Most of it is negative, and most of it is blinding, and most of it is blazing hot.
00:25:35
They're not going to put a lot more on their back simply because they want their name in the paper.
00:25:41
This is not the Dallas Cowboys.
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This is not the New York Jets, albeit to respect to both of those organizations.
00:25:47
Well, more respected the Cowboys and the Jets.
00:25:49
But you know that I digress.
00:25:51
But in any case, this is not a team that's looking for that when and even if they did ring in Colin, it would be because they believed he was a person that could help them win on the field.
00:26:03
So for anyone that saying PR stunt or publicity stunt, take that out of your head.
00:26:07
That is not how the New England Patriots do business.
00:26:09
I can tell you from personal experience, having spoke to several people in the organization in the past, I haven't had a chance to do much networking on this story broke a little late last night for my taste.
00:26:19
But in any case, you're old, like sleep.
00:26:23
Oh, yeah, I need my spite back in my day, but it's necessary for from my for my old co host here to take a breather.
00:26:32
So I'm gonna have to pump the brakes just for a minute here, Um so cause we're gonna take a break here, and then when we come back, we're going to shift gears a little bit a little bit to another topic involving the Patriots.
00:26:46
Before we we will circle back Teoh, Cam Newton.
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And again, I do want to reiterate we do want to hear from you.
00:26:51
So if you have any thoughts, opinions, anything at all.
00:26:53
Do you think it's gonna work out? Give us a call.
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6263108882 That's once again.
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626310 Triple eight to ah, you can call or text us Let us know and we love to hear from you So hang tight.
00:27:07
We will be back right after this Love it, love it, love it, love it And we're gonna keep right We're gonna keep using it until we are told otherwise So Welcome back, folks.
00:32:44
We're here live. It's Monday.
00:32:46
It's June 29 were almost July.
00:32:48
You know what? Your lives Still, I means that we're actually going to get sports back.
00:32:53
I mean, I don't think people have realized it. Yeah.
00:33:00
Uh, yeah.
00:33:01
I mean, look, NHL nd a NFL training camp and a major league baseball.
00:33:08
I'll come back next month, and I think things are gonna start looking up for the better.
00:33:13
And and look, I mean, hey, we felt like sports were back last night because not only did we get an NFL signing, we we got another punishment tour for the Patriots for something I still can't figure out what they actually did wrong, but they got punished for it, and ah, it all of a sudden it feels like, um, I almost went into ah feels like the front.
00:33:35
No, no, that's not what I'm doing.
00:33:37
My brain is just I don't need to be doing that right now.
00:33:40
We're not No, no.
00:33:41
Any nosy today? Now we don't know. No, no.
00:33:43
Ah, but no, it just feels like an NFL season because the Patriots air in the news for for a number of things.
00:33:48
And look, I mean, a say what you want.
00:33:50
I mean, a strategically time signing of Cam Newton.
00:33:55
I mean, who knows? But the bottom line is the Patriots were fined $1.
00:33:58
1 million Dr 2021 3rd round pick a swell.
00:34:03
As like, there's other restrictions on their film crew.
00:34:08
Um, for essentially ah, mistake by 1/3 party camera crew.
00:34:13
And we've talked about it at length about the situation in the NFL, all but confirmed it.
00:34:18
And they said this six months ago that they could find no link between the actual NFL football operations in this video crew.
00:34:25
Now, for those wondering what happened was they were there filming a do***entary, a do***entary that has been running for, what, 34 years now, something like that.
00:34:35
So this wasn't a isolated incident.
00:34:38
This wasn't just a one time like, Oh, hey, you know, the Patriots just decided to start filming dot Know they were filming a scout.
00:34:45
So the camera crew made a mistake and film the fields because again they were looking to get B roll footage to mix in with the actual you know, whatever interview, whatever they were doing to film the scout.
00:34:57
It just it is what it is, although all the cir***stances, including getting credential, being in front of literally everyone and just, you know, just common sense tells you that there was no, um, ill intent, at least from a football standpoint again.
00:35:15
But that doesn't matter, because the NFL and fans alike see this as hope.
00:35:19
It's just another cheating thing.
00:35:21
Well, no, I mean, there's there's context.
00:35:23
The context is important in these situations because you know, not every rule broken.
00:35:30
It's quote unquote cheating.
00:35:31
But, you know, with the Patriots, it is because again we've seen other teams get ah punished for similar or worse cir***stances.
00:35:39
I mean, the Jets literally had a, ah, similar thing where they had a film crew not involved with football operations on the sidelines of a football game.
00:35:48
And doesn't matter, doesn't matter whatever.
00:35:52
It's not the page.
00:35:53
It's no.
00:35:54
One care.
00:35:55
So in this situation, the Patriots got fined and docked for this now, one of the comments saying, Oh, well, fair or not, I mean, this is, you know, the Patriots are are, you know, they're paying for past mistakes? Well, are they really or are they just paying for the NFL's passed in confidence? Because, you know, this history of cheating really involves two situations.
00:36:15
Spy Gate one back in 2007 and again, no one's arguing that they didn't break a rule.
00:36:21
I mean, they did.
00:36:22
What we're arguing is, did the extent to which it helped them because, you know, we've heard everything from this was responsible for 34 championships, blah, blah, blah all that stuff.
00:36:34
No one's denying that when it comes to deflate gate, there's.
00:36:37
There's far more evidence that suggests that nothing happened, and the NFL's own and confidence is displayed right there in their own wells re sport.
00:36:45
It was It was nice that the Patriots picked it apart.
00:36:48
I mean, you can if you want to check it out.
00:36:50
Goto Wells, Wells report in context It's It's still up and still rockin.
00:36:54
So check it out and read for yourself all the discrepancies and all the, uh, just things that just don't make sense from the NFL standpoint.
00:37:01
But But now people use that as Okay, well, the Patriots are being punished for past indiscretions.
00:37:08
Well, is it really an indiscretion when the NFL bundles? Ah bungles? Ah, investigation doesn't understand the effects of weather on football.
00:37:17
And then again ignores the fact that, hey, when they went into halftime, the Patriots weren't the only team that had a majority of the balls underinflated from when they started the game.
00:37:26
The Colts did, too, But guess what? No one gave a beat.
00:37:31
So, you know, again, in a way, I'm kind of happy.
00:37:35
I'm talking about this because it's been a nice distraction from from what we've come to, you know, recognises normal these days.
00:37:43
But at the end of day, nothing's really changed and and and ah, the NFL continues to arbitrarily issue punishments and and really kind of just goes with the public flow and everything like that.
00:37:56
So, um, and an interesting tidbit, an organizational find there.
00:38:03
There's really no much in the way of an appeals process.
00:38:06
So you know, it is what it ISS and the Patriots.
00:38:12
You know, once again, get Dr Draft pick for who does re.
00:38:17
So just say no reason, no visa. And it's true.
00:38:20
And it's true they were doctor pick for no reason.
00:38:22
And look, folks, whether you're a Patriots fan or whether you're not the hot button issue and everybody, the narrative just absolutely swarmed last night exactly the way I I figured it would.
00:38:34
Oh, here we go.
00:38:35
Once a cheater, always a cheater while cheaters never prosper blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:38:38
We've heard the same thing since Spy Gate story broke many, many moons ago and people are still miss informed about that story there Still miss informed about Deflate gate, But again, they drink the sand because they want to believe that the juggernaut of the last 20 years is nothing but a cheating organization.
00:38:53
Oh, it doesn't really matter that that organization I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna put the brakes right for a second, because I think we have a caller, and I think I know Don't be dry.
00:39:04
I believe it was Mark.
00:39:05
But if you were just calling Mr 86 So give us a call again.
00:39:08
I'm gonna I'm gonna answer the phone here, so Ah, Anyway, it's Go ahead, Mike, and I'll bring them in when they start talking again.
00:39:14
No.
00:39:15
What? No, you know what? And it gives me if this is our good green friend, and I really hope it is, Um it gives me the perfect intro to him to say that last night when I was writing up my recap which is available on full press coverage Patriots.
00:39:29
Right now, folks, go check him out both on Cam Newton and on this subject.
00:39:33
I quoted William Schwenk Gilbert, who in his work the Makato once decreed let the punishment fit the crime.
00:39:39
Well, in my opinion, folks, this punishment was disproportionate to the crime.
00:39:43
Um, you look at the $1.
00:39:44
1 million the Patriots were fined You look at the third round draft pick that was taken away every other time the NFL took away a draft pick from a franchise.
00:39:54
It was because of something that happened on the football field.
00:39:57
Whether you agree with it, whether you disagree with it, there was a correlation.
00:40:02
All correction.
00:40:04
The league has essentially indicated that there was no connection to football operations.
00:40:08
So why the docking of the draft pick? Why the fine of $1.
00:40:12
1 million? Talk to Daniel Lust sports law, lest on Twitter was one of the leading sports attorneys in the country on Friday, unlocked on Patriots and the two of us discussed this matter.
00:40:23
I almost feel like we jinxed it because we brought it up and not well publicized in so long.
00:40:28
And then all of a sudden Sunday night it hits well.
00:40:31
And he and I'm sorry that I was going to say We're going to try to break the jinx for a year real quick because I don't know if this is a coincidence, but my call screen is lit up in green.
00:40:40
So is this the ah, the man they call Murph? Is he on the other line? It would be e.
00:40:48
I knew it.
00:40:49
Oh, Monday.
00:40:51
Yes, Else from year 60 calls you.
00:40:54
No, that's true.
00:40:55
that you're actually I don't think I know anyone else from the 86 so actually, no, no, I got Miguel Pats cap he sees from Connecticut.
00:41:01
So, Yeah, There you go.
00:41:02
Oh, McGill calls you.
00:41:03
I didn't you? I mean, I'm just saying it could It could It could have been him.
00:41:07
It could have been him.
00:41:08
I'm just saying, You know, you're one of two people I know from Connecticut, so Murphy were so happy it could have been visiting way.
00:41:15
How we doing? Good. Good, good.
00:41:17
Were tested out the ah, this is our new phone system.
00:41:20
So clearly it's coming in nice and clear for you.
00:41:23
I I assume right it is.
00:41:25
Okay.
00:41:26
Good. Then again, I'm on a landline that actually dials.
00:41:28
Yeah, that's I mean, folks for you, young kids out there, and landline is actually a phone that plugs into the wall.
00:41:33
Um, yes.
00:41:34
So obviously you were listening, and this is just another Ah, another year.
00:41:39
And in the Patriots history of getting find and doc draft picks for I I just I don't have an answer for that. So we don't know.
00:41:49
We have We don't know.
00:41:50
Um, all reports beforehand.
00:41:52
came out that, you know, there's there's no link.
00:41:54
There's no core correlation.
00:41:56
There's no, you know, yada, yada, yada.
00:41:58
Uh oh.
00:41:59
There goes another third round pick.
00:42:01
This is ridiculous.
00:42:03
Guys, this is This is moronic.
00:42:05
And all it does is continue to feed this.
00:42:09
How free a my to speak here. Okay.
00:42:11
Hey, go for man.
00:42:13
Go for it.
00:42:14
It is this arm ****in ****ed? Okay, I'm tired of this.
00:42:19
I'm sick of this.
00:42:20
And there's already people the spin doctors out there already talking about how the patriots are still getting away with murder.
00:42:27
Okay, this was a do***entary film that's been going on forever and a day.
00:42:33
Give me a break and we sit here.
00:42:35
We get 1/3 round pick and I get 80 gets like Mike.
00:42:37
Francesca Freaking That said there the pictures to get off easy.
00:42:42
Gotay.
00:42:43
Louise e can't take it anymore.
00:42:46
I just can't.
00:42:47
And then on Complicit, You know Fig Newton is coming to town.
00:42:52
Shoot me.
00:42:53
Yes, I I know you're you're not quite quite the fan of the move, so yeah, I'll give I'll give you the floor on the move.
00:42:59
And I'm willing to say that a lot of that is personal.
00:43:02
Okay, I personally do not like Cam Newton as human being.
00:43:06
I don't care.
00:43:07
What would Christian McCaffrey has to say about him? I don't care what any of his fellow teammates have to say about.
00:43:13
You know **** well nobody's gonna come out and trash him.
00:43:17
None of his former teammates are going to do that.
00:43:20
That's not gonna happen.
00:43:21
That doesn't That doesn't happen.
00:43:22
That happens after players retire.
00:43:24
Um, I like this move slightly less than I would if Eli me if you, I or Peyton Manning were coming here.
00:43:33
Oh, wow, that's it.
00:43:35
And look, I mean, that's that's fair, too, because I'm I'm I'm skeptical from a football standpoint.
00:43:41
I you know, again because you know, if he's healthy and he can play on the field, you know, that's great.
00:43:46
And, you know, I I do have a lot of faith in this coaching staff and the players on this team.
00:43:51
Um, again, I my skepticism comes from from the football field.
00:43:57
Like, what is he? Is he healthy enough? You know, what I mean is this foot right is his shoulder, right? It is his throwing shoulder.
00:44:03
So that's that's where my questions come in.
00:44:05
I I do feel, though, that Bill Belichick isn't going to make this move just to make a move.
00:44:11
This this is meant to, uh, not only pushed Jarrett's did him, but this is a legitimate quarter bit quarterback competition.
00:44:18
And, ah, again I mean and Bill, I trust I got I got to put my faith in the guy who's it had been bred pretty right.
00:44:25
Assuming you don't listen to Boston sports media on a regular basis, that's true.
00:44:30
You know, there's there's no denying that there is arguing that otherwise there wouldn't be spot for Boston Sports radio.
00:44:38
Um, but it's just I right now where I'm in shock because we've sat there and we've traded the best quarterback in the NFL in the end of history.
00:44:49
For a guy that wouldn't jump on a fumble in his own frickin Super Bowl, and that makes me insane, it really does.
00:44:56
And as Kyle said in Cam's defense, there's cops Arena.
00:45:00
We're here in the chat room.
00:45:03
There are much more deplorable human beings playing football in the NFL through.
00:45:08
I just think I just can't see it's guys like him.
00:45:12
Guys like Peyton, who sit there and point fingers at everybody else on the planet and have no accountability whatsoever.
00:45:20
This is a guy that's thrown for 60% of passes as completions twice in his career.
00:45:26
Not that he's that prolific of, ah, downfield guy to begin with, it's, you know, he's coming office, So shoulder surgery is also coming off a foot surgery.
00:45:38
Um, believe me, Steve is a little more Melo headed than I am about This is always that things smart guy, good looking one that you guys can all hear that tomorrow on brand new episode of One Patriot Louis, which will debut right here on this radio network.
00:45:59
Fantastic.
00:46:00
I can't wait.
00:46:01
It just tells me that I have a little bit more work on my plate tomorrow.
00:46:04
So when it comes out, but but it's good, it's good.
00:46:06
It was like that loaded up And of course, of course, Noah happy to do it, of course.
00:46:13
And I look forward to, and I was going to say, you know, this is a perfect time for a one page it's place.
00:46:17
Get the ying and the yang between you and Steve, you know, get it maybe head.
00:46:21
So it's good, you know, it's a pretty good gang.
00:46:23
And Yang? Yeah, not, you know, brag or anything.
00:46:27
But, you know, we've been in the same locker room, so we know the yin and yang of each other.
00:46:31
Yeah, there's it's a weird such might drop off.
00:46:40
No, he's here, don't you doing? I need a meant.
00:46:45
I need a man who has powerful.
00:46:47
Can I hear Michael? Oh, you can't hear him? No.
00:46:50
Oh, you know, Mike, I'm not I'm not ignoring you.
00:46:54
This phone system is that messed up.
00:46:55
I just do not hear you, my friend.
00:46:58
It's OK.
00:46:59
That's that's that's That's certainly Ah, that's probably something on my and it were.
00:47:02
Rooster is still working out the kinks here on the Yeah.
00:47:06
Okay.
00:47:07
Work out the kinks.
00:47:08
You know, work out some kinks in training camp and you hear me? Yeah, I can I can hear you Mike it so you can hear me.
00:47:16
OK, Kendall Marr.
00:47:17
If I need it, tell more if I need a man who has powerful friends Mike says he needs he needs.
00:47:22
He needs a man who has powerful friends.
00:47:25
I need $1.
00:47:26
1 million in cash.
00:47:27
$1.1 million in cash.
00:47:30
I need Don earlier, like so many nickels and nine years how this is going to break down, cap wise or not.
00:47:39
Um, I'm sure with the incentives that they were talking about that the base salary can't be much of anything.
00:47:47
And I don't see anyone getting cut for this.
00:47:52
Do you guys? Well, I I think according to, you know, Miguel Pats Cap.
00:47:57
Um, you know, since a lot of those incentives are not Ah, so, you know, not assuming to be made.
00:48:04
So there's obviously a different distinction if you if you give a player a bunch of incentives that are are pretty easy to reach that number is gonna count on that current years cap.
00:48:13
Well, in this case, since ah, obviously Cam only played three games last year, and then obviously it was has been dealing with injuries.
00:48:21
Um, the incentives that are in his contract are expected to be made, so if he does hit every single one of them, all that extra money is gonna be on next year's cap, which is which is a key part of this, which makes this a really a no lose situation for the Patriots whether it works or not for them.
00:48:38
Um I mean, put it this way, though.
00:48:40
I mean to say, Say they go with dead, okay, and state is one in three.
00:48:46
I'll get into into this more tomorrow.
00:48:48
Um, after much more coffee and thoughtless booze, because no more boost more boosts.
00:48:55
Um, the e se se at it, you know, were one in three and instead has thrown, you know, three picks already and across one of 11 game, maybe two.
00:49:10
What's going on is we know the media is going to be screaming after Newton and how how conducive to, ah, locker room, How conducive to the future of this ranch eyes.
00:49:28
Is it putting that kind of stress on a situation? I mean, I know you know, Bill, just brush it right off.
00:49:36
I'm not sure that that it's I don't get it.
00:49:40
Well, and to that, I would say this and this kind of goes back to the bill, I trust, because I don't think like some coaches out there, they're not gonna give in to the media, especially the media in this city.
00:49:53
Which again way we could spend that we could spend the whole two hours talking about all that nonsense.
00:49:59
But so to me, I don't see Bill ever giving into that type of pressure.
00:50:03
So he's if he believes in Jared system.
00:50:05
If there 13 he's not gonna bet you, um you know, because he's not the guy was gonna pull the plug too early.
00:50:11
And let's see unless he sees something.
00:50:13
Or again.
00:50:14
If he does do that, then I have to believe that there's something that just isn't there.
00:50:18
But even if he struggles to start, I don't think Bill's gonna make a quarterback change to appease the media or appease the fans, right, whatever.
00:50:28
So, in that sense, I I try Just no need to panic in my life now is true.
00:50:32
No, I understand.
00:50:33
I understand.
00:50:34
I get it, I get it.
00:50:36
But this this this, this community, this this region has has come to peace with itself as to Brady moving on this just my opinion and that Jared Stadium was going to be the starting quarterback this year.
00:50:51
Um, and to throw this into it right now, I thought was was not nice.
00:51:01
It was looking like a more laid back season.
00:51:03
You know something where you could actually take a breath and not have to monitor your blood pressure every single day? Just that, you know.
00:51:10
But, hey, I didn't have to worry about being 13 3 and getting, you know, we were We were going to get to be, you know, ah, regular NFL town that, you know, sits back.
00:51:20
Hey, if we make the playoffs, good deal.
00:51:22
You know, and we haven't had that in a very long time.
00:51:27
And I just really looking forward toa how this all works out.
00:51:32
Um, I'm I'm looking forward to Fig Newtons press conference announcing his signing here.
00:51:39
And I'm looking forward to continuously shutting up.
00:51:43
People like Richard Sherman were wondering why former MVP's are only being paid.
00:51:48
You know what? They're being paid because e Asai told Richard, um, once you go take a look at couple of the contracts.
00:51:56
Kurt Warner? Yeah.
00:51:58
Great boy. He was.
00:51:59
He was the M V P.
00:52:01
Twice wasn't Teoh 2000 and our 1999 to 2001.
00:52:06
Right? He did win in 2001.
00:52:08
Correct? Yes or no? What? I was that your right okay.
00:52:11
I couldn't remember for it.
00:52:12
Was him or Mike is probably correcting me right now.
00:52:14
I e I I think I think I think he's the smartest man in the room.
00:52:19
I think Mike is snoring right now on the other end.
00:52:21
I I'm not sure. I think we might be boring.
00:52:23
Amore. It's just the old age.
00:52:25
Yeah, it's just the old age.
00:52:26
She is 40 now, so not everyone takes to it as well as our big friend and Connecticut are.
00:52:33
When it comes to the much like says, You're cracking, I have t shirts older.
00:52:39
Well, great show.
00:52:41
Awesome. Thank you for taking my phone call.
00:52:43
Oh, it's definitely worth it.
00:52:45
And Mike, I guess I'll talk to you 15 minutes before some air time when you you need me to come and we'll get absolutely weekly.
00:52:53
Tell him Weekly, locked on where Fist says Weekly, locked on Martha's definitely on the horizon and and next time you call in, we will figure out these.
00:53:01
They use calling issue.
00:53:04
I want to hear Mike, I know you wanted to hear Mike, and next time we'll make sure you're so summer Day is not complete.
00:53:13
Next time toe locked on six days ago. Exactly.
00:53:17
What? We'll break it down.
00:53:18
And don't forget tomorrow, folks.
00:53:20
One patriots places back right here on full press coverage.
00:53:23
Radio. Awesome.
00:53:24
You guys ready to hear from you? That was our friend. Good.
00:53:28
Good conversation.
00:53:29
Although Mike was unable to participate.
00:53:31
And that's good.
00:53:32
That's good to know that we now have a ah technical issue to solve when it comes to that radio thing.
00:53:37
We're now again, I let let me ask you again.
00:53:39
Were you able to hear him? Right? I could hear him. Okay.
00:53:43
Okay.
00:53:44
Everything that was going on, I could hear there was no issues, you know, Felt like I was able to when he was coming in loud and clear, I felt like I was able to answer him, and then we'll just I guess he just didn't hear me on Island on that.
00:53:54
And But I know I know exactly what I know exactly what the issue is, so I'll get that worked out.
00:53:59
Well, get that figure out.
00:54:00
But, you know, look, it was a good conversation, and obviously he, um he's a little bit more skeptical of it.
00:54:06
And look, I'm not I'm not going to sit there and say that.
00:54:09
Ah, I I can sit there and defend every time.
00:54:12
You know, like, you know, that he was soaking on the silence, but at the same time, I'm gonna keep an open mind and see it for myself because we know how things get framed in the media.
00:54:21
And as much as we cover the sport, and as much as we obsess over it, we can't give 100% attention to every single team.
00:54:28
So a lot of times, we don't know a lot of the nuances.
00:54:32
So I'm gonna I'm gonna watch from this point of view, um, and and, you know, and see, like from all accounts will if what the's former players air saying are true and again, you can have your skepticism.
00:54:45
You can have your doubts.
00:54:46
But, um, you know, we'll see how it is.
00:54:48
And like Murph said, it adds, Ah, this level intrigued that we thought where it was gonna be absent this season, like there was a lot.
00:54:56
Don't get me wrong. There was a lot of intrigue.
00:54:58
Um, there is a lot of intrigue about the season because of Jared system and how the team would look post on Brady.
00:55:05
I'm not saying there wasn't but kind of how Mark put it.
00:55:09
Like Mel.
00:55:10
All of a sudden, that pressure is back on because again, if Cam Newton comes in and wins the starting job, all of the sudden expectations, they're going to be much higher from this team.
00:55:20
But whether they're legitimate or not, because again, we don't really know who Jared cinemas.
00:55:24
And to this day, we still don't know.
00:55:27
We're just making assumptions based on moves by by the team.
00:55:31
So, um, excuse me so again, it's gonna be interesting.
00:55:35
And, Mike, I know you're chomping at the bit to speak.
00:55:38
We're gonna have to hold off for just five more minutes because we are going to go to our last break, and then we when we come back, we will give Mike the chance toe toe, let it all out because he's been holding back for a little bit.
00:55:47
So stay tuned.
00:55:49
Folks will be back in Ah, five minutes.
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Kind of like what? We are here now, And, uh, I know that's something you wanted to bring up.
01:02:35
So I I since you didn't get to speak to bunch during the last part because of some technical issues.
01:02:43
Ah, character concerns.
01:02:45
And this is something that again, right off the bat pops up, um, that again, this It might have some.
01:02:53
Ah, you There might be other issues at hand When when you say character, depending on what you're talking about.
01:03:00
Because, like Murph brought up, there are things like some of the sulking on the sidelines that that I've seen again, not covering the team 100%.
01:03:10
I I don't see everything thing.
01:03:11
So of course, the media is going to focus on the negative.
01:03:14
So maybe that's the image that I have.
01:03:16
But, you know, there are legitimate concerns like, yeah, you want to see after watching Tom Brady, there's gonna be a very high standard of quarterback play here in New England that people are going to expect.
01:03:26
And, you know, the Are the optics of him not diving on that football in Super Bowl bad? Yeah, absolutely.
01:03:34
It just doesn't look good for you, especially for a team that, you know, didn't really You know, they didn't have a great game in that game.
01:03:40
So But at the end of the day, this idea that he has, ah, quote unquote character issues outside of football or anything like that, it's absurd.
01:03:48
And it's it's just patently false.
01:03:50
Um, you know, like I tweeted out this morning.
01:03:53
Ah, you know, you can go ahead and just do a simple Cam Newton Google search and you'll be hard pressed to find ah, several not to find several stories about his charitable work, or or, you know, things that he's done in the community.
01:04:07
Everything like that.
01:04:08
I mean, he is the Panthers raining nominee for the Walter Payton Man of the Year award, and you know, from from what we've heard from players and you know, folks that cover the coverage league, that's one of the most sought after most Ah, e, I guess.
01:04:23
Ah, you know, one of the the awards that players take the most pride in because it speaks to your involvement in the community and what you do outside of the football field.
01:04:32
And I think there's no question about who can is outside the football field.
01:04:37
I think you will be great for the community.
01:04:39
I think it adds, you know, obviously Ah, a guy who's, you know, you're replacing another guy who's very great in the community despite, you know, again, some of the narratives written about him.
01:04:50
So I want to try to dispel these thes character issue concerns outside of the football field.
01:04:55
I mean, if you have concerns about again, you know, some of the sulking and some of the the quote unquote attitude on the field.
01:05:01
Yeah, I can I can see that I do want to see for myself.
01:05:05
You know how he acts here.
01:05:07
You know, maybe it's different.
01:05:08
Maybe Maybe it's just pay playing in Carolina That does it for you. Who knows.
01:05:12
But, um, yeah, at the end of day, I mean, I think there's more intrigue and then doubt for May.
01:05:16
So I guess I marked me as excited or at least again, intrigue is maybe the best word.
01:05:23
Yeah, I think that's the best word to use that.
01:05:25
That's exactly how I feel about this. I'm intrigued.
01:05:28
I think there's a lot to like, potentially about this sign, because again it comes down to low risk, potentially very high reward.
01:05:35
Yes, character issues are definitely, uh, about they've always surround.
01:05:39
They've always surrounded Cam, mostly since that Super Bowl, Um, where you know, not diving on the fumble.
01:05:46
I mean, you know, body language that was shown at times they were all different kinds of reasons to maybe discount the fact that this may be the fit that everybody hopes it's going to bay.
01:05:56
And look, there is no one that holds my good friend Murph in higher regard than I do.
01:05:59
He is family to me, and I'm not knocking his opinions at all because I think he makes some valid points and he has valid concerns.
01:06:06
My response to that is that the Patriots have Anak, maybe more so than most other sports teams, maybe than any other sports team of being able to get guys in here that may have had some behavioral orb attitude problems in the past.
01:06:22
Able t perceived, exactly perceived.
01:06:24
Thank you.
01:06:25
I'm glad that you made that correction because that is something people that have had perceived attitude, you know, issues in the past come in to the New England Patriots system and straight now.
01:06:37
I mean, let's face it, guys like Randy Moss.
01:06:39
Guys like Corey Dillon did not have the greatest of reputations of 19 guys of being, you know, always engaged before they came to New England.
01:06:48
These are two guys that were accused of dogging it on several occasions, and they came in here and really, I think, you know, played very well during the time that they that they did.
01:06:57
I know toward the end of Randy stint here toward the end of Cory staying here, some of that had worn a little thin, but at the same time when they needed when the Patriots needed them to step up and perform, they were the intent or anything of that nature.
01:07:16
I'm definitely not comparing the two.
01:07:18
You mention the humanitarian work that he does in the community, uh, the high regard to which his former teammates and opposing players hold him.
01:07:26
You saw a lot of ground swelling of people that were really excited for Cam last night.
01:07:30
Again, you're not gonna find people that are gonna trash him right now.
01:07:34
Immerse right.
01:07:35
That's just not done.
01:07:36
But at the same time, none of these people have to go out there and make these comments and make thes thes statements about him.
01:07:42
So I'm keeping an open mind when it comes to Cam.
01:07:45
I don't think character issues factored into the Patriots decision to bring him in.
01:07:50
I think if there were significant character issues, I don't believe they would have taken the chance.
01:07:54
I think they see a potential upside on the field.
01:07:57
We're willing to accept all the baggage that comes around it.
01:08:00
But again, this is a very low risk, you know, deal for them, if for any reason can just is not a fit in New England, you cut him loose with a $1,000,000 you know, gone.
01:08:10
And all of a sudden it doesn't become quite the difficulty cap hit or the difficult albatross around the Patriots neck for bringing in a guy very similar to what they had with Antonio Brown lash here.
01:08:21
That ended up being, ah, big problem for them, that contract with guaranteed money and then the fact that they had to account for that on the cap really prevented them from being able to improve this team down the stretch after it was proven that Antonio didn't work out here.
01:08:35
So in a lot of ways, I see some similarity.
01:08:39
But I think Cam has a trip and this system more upside.
01:08:43
And I think there's a lot more character in this man, then maybe some of the malcontents that we've seen around the league, like Kyle said, There are plenty more deplorable guys like no going in the NFL right now other than Cam Newton.
01:08:54
So again I look for this.
01:08:55
I look for Can Teoh Teoh to be able to come in, compete for the starting job, and I go back to the point earlier of this not being an indictment on Jared Stadium.
01:09:06
This could actually work to Jarrett's advantage.
01:09:08
I mean, he made difficult competition, which again I believe it is, and this may raise his game and if it does and he's able to outperform Cam and the Patriots realized, well, maybe this kid's a little more special than we even thought then this.
01:09:26
This could be the beginning of something for the Patriots in for Jared Stadium here.
01:09:29
If it in any way he is hampered by either a lack of an offseason or just the pressure of coming in and being essentially a rookie, that has to take the clipboard and take the mantra of being the face of the franchise from, ah, living legend and icon here in ah, in New England.
01:09:49
Then Cam Newton is a pretty good guy, a pretty good bridge quarterback to get you through.
01:09:53
Ah, you know, maybe this season, maybe even beyond for a year until Jared is ready to take the reins.
01:09:58
So there's a lot to consider a lot to think about, but I'm a little higher than my good friend on the on this signing.
01:10:06
But I share some of his curiosity because this is not just a slam dunk.
01:10:09
And I saw some fans, you know, basically rejoicing and thinking that the Patriots air punching their ticket now to the Super Bowl.
01:10:16
It's definitely not the case, folks, you know you're gonna have to really show a little temperance and and see what What this kid can do on the field right now because he is coming off of some severe injuries, including one to his throwing shoulder that could potentially have difficulty.
01:10:32
Yeah, and, yeah, there's absolutely certainly concerns when it comes that and you want to see him healthy.
01:10:37
But, you know, positive is, you know, he's decided whole season off.
01:10:41
Essentially, Um, if you know, if you believe in and you know his his I guess, Dr Which again, I don't think there's any reason to doubt it.
01:10:53
Okay, it's This is this could be a great situation for both men.
01:10:57
Do you put any stock into the whole Auburn connection there between stadium and Ah, Cam, obviously, you know, many years apart.
01:11:05
But, you know, they're still that Ah, both having gone to auburn and everything, you put any into that as to why camps here.
01:11:14
Funny that you mention that, my good buddy, because I will be talking.
01:11:18
Teoh could be who host locked on auburn later today.
01:11:20
And we're gonna be talking about that auburn flavor in the Patriots locker room and the connection that these two look.
01:11:27
I mean, there's no question about it.
01:11:28
I mean whenever teammates at Auburn.
01:11:30
I mean, there's just there's there's no physical or emotional connection between the two.
01:11:35
But, you know, there is obviously a synergy there between these two guys.
01:11:39
They do share the same alma mater.
01:11:41
That does length, um, in in, you know, in some way, shape or form, I guess, is the best way to put it.
01:11:47
But no, I don't think it really had anything to do with bringing in an Auburn guy.
01:11:51
I think they just saw Cam Newton of the individual.
01:11:54
The pro eyes being available was being someone that they could now afford based on what the market will bear.
01:12:00
And I think that was their primary motivations.
01:12:03
So I don't think can being from from Auburn.
01:12:05
I don't think Jared being from Auburn has any type of in the two.
01:12:12
There are similarities in their game is believe it or not.
01:12:14
Jared's a little more mobile in a little bit more capable of running the ball than a lot of people would lead you to believe he does have that capability.
01:12:22
So I'm gonna pick sacks brain on that a little bit because he'd be the better person.
01:12:25
Teoh talk to on that subject, But in any case, I just don't see it right now.
01:12:30
I think it's a coincidence, and it makes for a nice copy.
01:12:33
It definitely makes for nice headlines and, you know, story ideas and maybe even podcast ideas.
01:12:38
But other than that, I don't think you're going to see too much made out of that.
01:12:41
I think it's going to be either Jared Stadiums job or Cam Newton's job based on how they perform on the practice field.
01:12:48
What we see in preseason, Yeah, and and look, I mean, like I said when we when we started the show, this is This is an open competition And again, I don't think you bring in Cam Newton to just be a guy to to push Jared system now.
01:13:01
Eventually, he could be that guy who pushes Jared's to them.
01:13:05
But it doesn't mean he's not gonna have a chance to win the job, because I think he will again if he's healthy.
01:13:12
We remember Bill Go Belle Check benched a guy that just signed $100 million contract that richest in the NFL for getting injured, which was again, that's something that just you did never did before you You couldn't lose your job to injury.
01:13:27
Um, I mean, again, I'm ITT's saying, And it, for the most part, pretty true, and especially when it comes to the quarterback.
01:13:35
But guess what? Bill Belichick went with, the guy he thought was better.
01:13:39
****ed, you know, contract be ****ed And prestige be ****ed so to me.
01:13:44
And there's no doubt in my mind if Kim Newton comes in and out perform.
01:13:47
Sterritt said, Um, Cam Newton is a starting quarterback, you know, for the Russian and you know what happens Moving forward.
01:13:54
We don't know because again, maybe they anticipated when they drafted Jared Jared that Tom was going to stay.
01:14:02
So the time frame to the three years sitting behind Tom Brady.
01:14:05
Well, you only got one.
01:14:07
You know, maybe you get get another sitting behind.
01:14:12
Maybe this gives you an actual real feeling of competition, because again, you know, it's just natural.
01:14:17
Human beings can become complacent.
01:14:19
And I'm not saying Jared Stadium is, but, you know, look, I mean, had Cam Newton not come onto this roster, you know, that's his job.
01:14:26
I mean, I don't think anyone sitting there thinking Bryant order is gonna be starting quarterback unless you're Ben Volin.
01:14:32
But, um, yeah, I really I mean, you don't you just There's no reason for Ben Brian Horror to be your starting quarterback.
01:14:41
You, either.
01:14:42
If those were the two year old with carrots did, um good, bad or ugly? Doesn't matter.
01:14:46
That's where the guy you're going with because Hoyer gives you no upside other than he's a good veteran quarterback, backup quarterback.
01:14:53
On this team you bring, you bring Cam Newton in and and all of a sudden again, if if Newton's better, he will start.
01:14:59
And you know, again, it's not 2015 but he is a former M v P.
01:15:05
He you know, Obviously, I went in and brought a team to super the Super Bowl every year.
01:15:13
Now, now, maybe those expectations have been adjusted a little bit without Tom Brady.
01:15:17
But, um, you know, you could do a lot worse than Cam.
01:15:21
Dude, let's put it that way.
01:15:22
Ah, yeah, yeah, I agree with that.
01:15:26
I don't think this fills Patriots Nation with a false sense of security.
01:15:30
I know some people are concerned about that.
01:15:32
It sounds like that might have been one immerse concerns that people were coming in here now, all of sudden thinking that the Patriots were returning to glory.
01:15:39
And I even hinted that, you know, at that a little bit earlier about, you know, Patriots fans that automatically think that this is a propulsion into a Super Bowl contention.
01:15:47
Once again, I think there's a lot that needs to be work.
01:15:50
I think there's a lot that needs to be seen on the field before we even anoint that, whether it be Jared Stadium or Cam Newton for starting for this team this year, I think there's still a lot of growing pains, and there's still a lot of question marks that the Patriots have that aren't related to the quarterback position.
01:16:03
Look, I mean, they have an offensive line we talked earlier about to me and whether or not he might be back, you know, in terms of ah, then extending in to try to open up some cap space because obviously this move puts even more of a stranglehold on the cap situation that the Patriots have.
01:16:20
They were already in precarious cat problems that this makes it even worse, so they're gonna have to free up some some money there.
01:16:26
But if you don't bring back Joe Tony, what does that mean for this offensive line? I mean, are they going to be able to provide the protection for a guy like Cam Newton or even a guy like Jared Stadium to make sure that their upright and they stay healthy? Especially when can has? His injury has a mystery, and you know, he's known for taking chances with the ball.
01:16:43
He'll not.
01:16:44
He does throw caution to the wind a little bit, Mawr and, you know, at the same time, the offensive line is used to protecting a guy like Tom Brady who was so good at protecting its health, protecting his safety and, you know, trying to ward off injury.
01:16:58
He was one of the best in the league's history of being able to do that so they may not have that luxury this year.
01:17:04
There's still some questions at the linebacker position.
01:17:07
Believe it or not as well, They've got a lot of rookie a lot of young players in that were vacated by by Jamie Collins and Kyle Van Noy, guys who had leadership experience and locker room experience there.
01:17:21
There's questions about the running games, questions about the wide receiver position to.
01:17:24
So there are a lot of issues that the Patriots will need to address in training camp that are independent of the quarterback position as well.
01:17:33
And a lot of these are questions that air questions every single offseason that the only difference being as you always had that rock in Tom Brady.
01:17:42
And no matter no matter what those questions were as long as you had Tom Brady, it didn't matter, and the proof is in the pudding.
01:17:50
We We've seen the Patriots never have a losing season under Brady and be in Super Bowl contention literally every single year.
01:17:57
Now, does it mean every single year they went to the Super Bowl? No.
01:18:00
But every other year they did.
01:18:02
So you know again.
01:18:04
And it is a far greater rate than really any other team, especially over that stretch of ah of time.
01:18:10
I mean, who's ever gonna go to nine Super Bowls and 18 seasons under one quarterback? Um, so you know, that's and that's and that's where things you know, where were the uncer*****y still lies, because again, you don't have that rock and and as good as Cameron can be, he won't be Tom Brady.
01:18:28
And there are things that you're gonna have to accept that a You know, he's just not calm Brady, but just fine.
01:18:34
That's Dina.
01:18:35
Knock again.
01:18:36
You know Aaron Rodgers isn't Tom Brady.
01:18:38
Drew Brees is. And Tom Brady. Sorry people.
01:18:40
I mean, they're just not No.
01:18:42
One's Tom Brady.
01:18:43
It's just how it is.
01:18:44
So if you can accept that that you know what all the sun and you're looking at it like it's that I mean to go from Tom Brady to potentially Cam Newton, even at again 75% of his 2015 season.
01:18:56
I think you're you're feeling pretty good now.
01:18:59
Does that mean you're Super Bowl contender? We'll have to see.
01:19:02
I mean, you could have been a Super Bowl contender, Which Eriks didn't we we just didn't know.
01:19:06
So, um, it's all about, you know, being patient and kind of seeing how it is, because I guess what happens.
01:19:14
You just don't have that rock with Tom Brady under center.
01:19:16
You know what you're gonna get? You're gonna get a F C East Division championship.
01:19:21
It doesn't matter if the defense is great, bad, mediocre.
01:19:24
It didn't matter who you had.
01:19:26
Ah, I mean, look at last season.
01:19:28
Probably the worst offensive supporting cast they've had in terms of skill and just ah, overall Ah, bad situations when it comes to injuries.
01:19:37
And they still won the division now again that their work out in the playoffs.
01:19:40
But okay, you know, there's only one other team that went to four straight Super Bowls.
01:19:45
Too bad the Patriots had to do it.
01:19:46
But, you know, I got a few other things to fall back on.
01:19:48
So, um so, yeah, so, yeah, that's that's my thought.
01:19:53
Pretty much, no, I think you know what? You echoed a lot of the sentiments and and I think of not just myself, but all the Patriots nation is that we really there's There's still a lot to be determined.
01:20:04
There's still a lot to be worked out, but this does cause and and it gives adequate cause, I think, for excitement among Patriots Nation because now up, all of a sudden, that veteran leadership that you were made a little bit worried about that the Patriots didn't have at the quarterback position.
01:20:20
When it comes to a guy like Jared Stadium.
01:20:22
Safer Brian Boyer, who's a very good back up again.
01:20:25
I hold Brian and very high regard, and I think he does come in here and allow you even to make a spot start if he needs to.
01:20:32
He's been a starting quarterback.
01:20:33
He knows what it takes to do that.
01:20:35
But Brian was never gonna be the guy that was gonna be the bridge quarterback to the next big thing here in New England.
01:20:41
If you believe that, that was too much to place on the shoulders of Jared Stadium.
01:20:45
Now all of a sudden, Cam Newton can handle that.
01:20:47
Or at least we believe he can, based on, you know, his career and what he's done in Carolina.
01:20:51
So I think that right now gives the Patriots that added dimension.
01:20:55
Once again, you want to be, you know, cautious in his health.
01:20:59
You want to be cautious about what that brings you know to the table and how he's going to be able to play through some of the injuries that he's had.
01:21:06
Eyes there, any rust on him this year.
01:21:09
By all accounts, people seem to be posting on social media that he's been working out working very hard and looks good, so, you know, well, hope to see if if that'll be the case as well.
01:21:19
Ultimately, I think it adds a level of competition with he and Jarrett, and we'll see what the Patriots were able to dio quarterback wise this year.
01:21:29
At the very least, if it doesn't work out, he moves on Jarrett your guy and you're pretty much exactly where you started.
01:21:34
So as you eloquently said to open the show today, Buddy is really The Patriots had nowhere to go but up on this one.
01:21:40
And at that point, how could you not take the chance to see what's? Ah, It's still left in the tank for Cam Newton because if all things were clicking on all cylinders and he ends up coming in here with everything you know, that he needs to succeed could end up being a more exciting year in New England.
01:21:56
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01:22:01
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all right.
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Good morning, everybody.
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Monday, You know, we're the weekend Just flew by, Mike.
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It really, really, really Did.
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You know, I'm sitting here thinking like, Oh, hey, you know, Friday descended.
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You know, we had a nice full week, or we're hitting the weekend.
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And then just like that boom, it's over.
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And here we are once again, we're about to start a new month, a month, which will, you know, scheduled to feature some sports, but ah, yeah, We actually have some stuff to talk about.
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So without further ado, I do want to bring in my my co host.
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Ah, the 40 year old man himself.
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Mr.
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Mike, Debate Mike I would doing today on this fine, fine Monday.
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Uh, no.
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I'm doing well, my friend.
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Doing very, very well.
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And folks, if you did not think that the New England Patriots and one more left up their sleeve than you were sorely mistaken, and it's a good one.
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Uh, the made a pretty big free agency splash last night and, ah, very typical Patriot deal.
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Very low risk, Potentially very high reward.
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And I'll be honest.
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This is when I didn't see coming.
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This is one.
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I didn't think that the Patriots would entertain.
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Um, if I'm being extremely honest, that's one that I didn't think was necessary.
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But the more I broke this down a little bit last night after the word broke starting like the signing a little bit more and more with each passing minute.
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So, uh, without further ado, buddy, I won't steal your thunder kick off and let everybody know exactly what I'm talking about.
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As if they don't already know.
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Uh, then we'll have some some other stuff because it wasn't all sunshine and rainbows when it came to the Patriots last night either.
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No, this is This is clearly going to be a very patriots heavy show.
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I mean, it's just it's just how the news goes.
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And we kind of go with the news.
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Um, you know, we're obviously gonna talk a lot about Cam Newton here in a minute.
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Obviously, the punishment.
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Ah, I'm rolling my eyes if you're watching on camera, but we're gonna talk about the punishment that was handed down to the Patriots for the NFL's incompetence over the last 15 years.
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And, um, yeah, so But we do want to hear from you though, folks.
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Because I'm looking at my screen right now in the last text that we got was Mike is older than Spaceballs.
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So let's ramp up the text machine here.
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66 3108882 give us a call to we want to know if you're if you're a Patriots fan or if you're a Cam Newton fan, What do you think of the signing? We're gonna give you our opinion here in a minute.
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You know, just give us your thoughts.
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And of course, you know, if you want to chime in on ah, Spy Gate two, Electric Boogaloo, we will certainly entertain that as well.
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But the news of the day coming out of New England and ah, very, you know, strategically.
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Time to maybe, you know, perhaps you could see it that way, but, um, yeah, patriots have signed Cam Newton, former M V P.
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Quarterback Cam Newton.
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Now we've talked about Cam actually talked about Cam briefly on Friday because we're going over.
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Ah, Chris Simms have him top 10.
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When he wasn't even on a on a team.
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Well, kind on a team now.
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I I still I'm not unsure about that top 10 ranking.
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But I I guess, again, you know we'll have to see what happens because, you know, we all know his 2015 season and our friend John Sapa chatty ah gave put out a nice tweet first half of 2018 was was a very strong season for Camp two.
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And then it's just been a year and 1/2 of injury woes and and, you know, a couple of bad Carolina teams in the in the transition.
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So at the end of the day, the Patriots make a very shrewd move because I was one and we've talked about it a while.
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I thought, look, it was either going to be Brady or stick him because the Patriots, if they couldn't afford to sign assigned Tom Brady, they weren't gonna be able to go out and sign any other veteran quarterback.
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You know, the Andy Dalton's of the world.
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I just I would have, you know, felt sick to my stomach that they signed him to a contract.
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Um, and and Cam kind of fell into that same category in the sense and not the sick to my stomach, but the You just don't think that they're gonna be able to put that come on, track together and sign a guy who at the time did want, um, you know, a decent amount of money, just money that the Patriots don't have.
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I mean, not just for camp, for anyone, for that matter.
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Ah, the Patriots were able to get him on a veteran minimum deal, one that, you know, if it means this is when went.
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There's no losing scenario for the Patriots in this case.
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Um, so I again, I'm excited.
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I'm very intrigued by the move, because again, if if cams healthy, he's he's the type of quarterback that the Patriots have not had, obviously, because Brady is not a mobile athletic quarterback.
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So there's gonna be an added dimension to this offense that we just haven't seen and it's it's it doesn't make Cam better.
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I mean, Brady's still better quarterback folks were not Ah, you know, Patriots fans.
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I know people are excited and you have a right to be because again, not often.
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In fact, this has never happened that you replace a former M V P quarterback with another M V P quarterback in the same off season.
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That's just never happened before.
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So Beatrice fans should be excited.
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Um, he's not Tom Brady.
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No, no.
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One's Tom Brady.
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So this this isn't a knock on camp, but he has.
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There's Ah, there's a certain ceiling, certain ceiling that he can reach that really, uh, adds an entire entirely new level of intrigue to this Patriots.
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Ah, upcoming season.
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And, um, look, I believe there's gonna be a very there's gonna be a competition, um, a fair competition between him instead.
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Um, but I also don't think Bill Belichick is just going to bring him in to bring him in.
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So, to me, from what I've been saying for a while is I felt that well, Bella, check in the coaching staff must know enough about stadium that they trust him.
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Well, I'm not saying that they don't trust him, but maybe that level of trust isn't as high as I anticipated heading into this offseason.
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And to me, I think there's a very, very legitimate chance that Cam Newton can win the starting job.
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And, um, you know, I think Bill Belichick brought him in to do that.
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Ah, there's no other reason he's not bringing a minute. Teoh.
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Rejuvenate his career, revitalized his career.
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Do anything like that.
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I mean, this isn't a Colin Kaepernick situation where he's been and with league for several seasons.
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So I mean, Cam Newton was playing high quality football less than two seasons ago.
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So, um, it's just a matter of making sure he's healthy.
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So I I'm excited.
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I'm very intrigued by the move.
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And, um, definitely something to to break the monotony of what's been.
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Ah, pretty boring.
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45 months.
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Safer.
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Maybe the draft in a couple of news bits here and there.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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I mean, look, when this news broke last night, I'll be the first to admit the first thing that I thought of was All right, where's the fake account? Where are we finally going to get the reveal that this was not true? Um, it just didn't seem feasible.
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And it didn't seem possible to me right along that the Patriots would bring in Cam Newton and you hit on a few of those.
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One of the big reasons why is because of the lack of ability for the Patriots to be able to afford a contract such as the one the Cam was reportedly seeking.
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Now all right, folks, I understand that he took a very low ball deal.
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A very incentive laden deal is, I guess, is the way it's being.
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It's being categorized.
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And I think a lot of that is because of the late Nissen.
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The season We're on the threshold of training camps beginning, and I think Cam saw the handwriting on the wall so that most of the starting quarterback positions were entrenched.
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And I think he saw an ability to be able to come to New England and be able to play for arguably the best coach in NFL history.
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Definitely, in my opinion, the best coach in the league, this attack this point, Ah, very innovative offensive coordinator in Josh McDaniels.
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And if you don't think that was a big part of this folks, that's definitely a big part of it.
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Josh is really going to be able to open up the playbook and be able to expound upon what can condemn on the field.
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But what l card in all of this and you mansion at without any question, the mind of the wild card in all of this camp self.
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I mean, there's no question about it.
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He has to be healthy in order to be effective.
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Look, no one is questioning his promise on the field looking through its statistics last night, as I was writing up the summary of Cam coming to New England, he's posted at least 3000 passing yards and 300 rushing yards eat season from 2011 to 2018.
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That's not an easy task, folks.
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That sounds like a pretty impressive stat line.
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But when you take a look at what it takes to actually have to be able to throw for over 3000 yards and then run for over 300 as quarterback, it's pretty impressive on guy.
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I take my hat off to him for that.
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The other statistics that you have to be concerned about if you're a New England Patriot is that he only made two starts in the last 18 games and Carolina, and unfortunately, the 2019 season was absolutely injury riddled for Cam Newton, one of those injuries to his throwing shoulder.
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So you have to wonder what type of player that you're going to be getting now if healthy, he can your you You put it so perfectly that he can add another level, another dimension to this offense that we haven't seen that we just have not seen at any point during the Patriots tenure.
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I know they've had mobile quarterbacks come in.
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You can say that maybe even as far back is like Rohan, Davey and Michael Bishop that these guys could move around a little bit.
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Ah, that they brought in No Jacoby percent who could move the ball around a little bit? Say, which will? Jimmy G has some legs under him.
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He was able to move the ball a little bit.
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You know, using his legs don't discount.
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The fact that Jared Stadium can do all this and lost in all of the whole plot last night was the fact that I still believe Jared stood him just in the mix to start.
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That's not a knock for Cam Newton.
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Ah, that's not I was ridiculously accused of that on Facebook last night or you're just not a cam guy.
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So you're Of course you're gonna say that Stadium is going to say that has nothing to do with it.
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I actually like this signing a lot more as I see it.
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But let's not forget that the team is still very high onstage, and they did not draft a quarterback.
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That wasn't because they knew that Cam was their backup plan all along.
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They didn't draft a quarterback because they believe that Jarrett was ready to go look the bottom line.
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And this is a good point that a friend of mine made last night going back and forth on Twitter D.
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M's.
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We are experiencing an off season that we haven't seen before when it comes to lack of ability for players to come in, get the synergy, get the playing time and develop the command they need on the field, especially a new young quarterback taking over for a living legend in this area.
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And I don't exaggerate when I say not, according to some Boston media.
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But that's a different discussion.
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Yeah, that's a discussion for another day, Whatever teachers and I'm not gonna Yeah, exactly.
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Or later in the show, I'm sure we'll get into that.
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You built that We will.
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But in any case, what I what I did want Teoh at least put forth there is that look folks, the Patriots when it comes to developing Jarrett Stidham, nobody knows better.
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And you said this several times, my friend.
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Nobody knows better what this kid is capable of on the field than Bill Belichick and Josh McDaniels.
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They're the ones watching him.
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They're the ones that are enamored with this kid or lack thereof.
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The fact that they bring in Cam Newton doesn't necessarily believe that.
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What isn't necessarily to me indicate that they're not happy with what they see from Jared.
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It might indicate two things.
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What it might indicate is that Jared may need a little friendly competition to raise his game.
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That could end up working to Jared's advantage.
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If he comes in outperforms cam throughout all of training camp, and the Patriots believe they have the kid, they have this stuff, then they're gonna implant it, and they're gonna put him in there.
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But to judge Jarrett Stidham on an off season that he hasn't had the ability to really become the type of quarterback for this team that he needs to be, um could indicate that they wanted to go in a different direction and bring in some veteran competition.
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I think he's a like where? Oh yeah, I do believe they'll still carry Brian.
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I still believe they carry Brian.
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I still think that his scout team a***en and his ability to navigate this, Ah, this offense and run things in practices and what not makes him an invaluable part.
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I think that this is probably bad news for guys like Jamaar Smith or Brian working or trying to maybe, you know, push their way onto this team.
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I think it's practice water bus now for either one of those guys.
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But this could end up giving Jerrett the competition that he needs to win the starting job.
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If Cam comes in and he's healthy and clicking on all cylinders, I don't think there's anybody including myself.
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That wouldn't say Cam Newton is a better option than Jared stood him.
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At this point. He's got experience.
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He's an NFL MVP, He's dynamic, one of the more dynamic athletes I ever seen at the position.
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I love watching Cam and to me, I think this is something that could end up working so well for the Patriots.
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If it doesn't and he comes in and he's either not up to the challenge physically or just doesn't grass the playbook or for any reason.
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Then like you, said the Patriots fish, they cut bait.
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They're on Leon on the hook for just a little over a $1,000,000 in cap space.
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If they do cut him so very low risk, very high reward potential.
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I really do.
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I think this is a great signing for the New England Patriots, and I think this is a good landing spot for Cam Newton as well.
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You saw the message go out immediately last night.
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He's excited as you know what to be in New England, and I think he sees that.
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I think he sees the opportunity here.
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Where some Yeah, exactly.
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Some of the dynamic athletes that he's gonna have.
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You know, you can imagine that guys like, especially in the backfield, guys like Sony Michelle, Guys like James White guys like Damian Harris have to be licking their chops and salivating at this because all of a sudden this could open them up for additional running opportunities, knowing that teams are going to be zeroing in on the run because they know that if Cam is healthy, he can tuck the ball and run with the best of them.
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So this will give the Patriots a lot to work with.
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Well, and that's the thing to, And that's what I you know, when it started off my I guess my rant or my whatever you wanna call it saying, You know, this adds a different dimension.
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Now again, I I want to emphasize this like he's not going to be better than Tom Brady is the best quarterback sense ever played the game.
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And again, I've said it before.
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I could make an argument that he's certainly still the best now.
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But that's that's not what we're talking about.
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So don't you know expectations have to be, ah tempered and you know not, you know, tryto make it out so that he has to be Tom Brady? No, but it doesn't mean that he can't have better seasons than what Tom has had in the past.
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I mean, hell, in 2015 he was the best player in the league.
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I mean, you know, they lost the Super Bowl, but I mean, his season was was phenomenal.
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And again, you don't necessarily That doesn't make you the best overall player you know, for the next few years, but for that year you were great.
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And if if camp can capture 75% of that with the defense that this team has and again, you know, it didn't work out last year with Harry and Mohammed Sunu for for a number of reasons, injuries being one of them, just all the different things we talked about before with the Patriots last year just didn't work out.
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Does that doesn't mean that I'm not high still on them.
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Um, I I do believe that these two are gonna have a really good season.
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I'm really excited about Harry, but you make a great point.
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All the signing, your introducing plays like Carpio's and and different sort of dynamic quarterback type plays that not only obviously give you Ah, something you didn't ever really see.
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But Tom, because of his limitations physically but in the style of quarterback in which he plays.
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But all of a sudden you're going to see different type of place that guys like Sony, Michelle and in James White guys that can catch and run, but all of a sudden now have that ability to Hey, if it's not open for the running back.
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Like you said Cam and his, you know, massive frame can just truck up the middle of the field and gain that yardage.
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And look, we've seen it.
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We've seen him all of a sudden takeoff in gained 30 40 yards because that's that's the type of player he can be.
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So, um, yeah, I mean it.
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Look, it z exciting.
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From a standpoint of that, the competition is going to be there again.
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Bill Bellatrix Not gonna bring in a player for for optics or for Toto Waste the spot he's bringing him in to give him a legitimate shot to start.
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And like you said, no, knock on Jarrett.
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Sit.
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Um, But if Cam is healthy and he's picking everything up and playing good, he's a far better option than Jared.
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Sit him because guess what? He's a first round overhaul.
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Pick it like you said former MVP's played and brought a team to a Super Bowl.
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Um so, uh, again, I mean this.
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This could only be a win win for the Patriots and the way things are set up Ah, we know that they are in cap hell right now, but next year that goes away and in the beauty of this contract being, um that at the most ticky cap, very most because if he does earn every single incentive that's on his contract, those air deemed not likely to be made.
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So if he does earn those that gets tacked onto next year, where the Patriots have an abundance of cap space and again, if it works out, all of a sudden, you're looking at a chance to re sign a guy that will be 32 still as a few several years left of being a very good quarterback.
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And all of a sudden you've done a pretty **** good job of replacing the greatest quarterback ever.
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And it's funny that you go from 199th pick overall to potential of a former first overall pick.
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So, yeah, absolutely.
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And, you know, again, I think that, um, you makes you make great points, my friend.
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You, you absolutely do.
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And the point that I keep coming back to with Cam is people are gonna point to the 2019 season and say, Well, this is the reason why he wasn't signed.
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That's absolutely correct.
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That is the reason why he wasn't signed.
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Disheartened to see a lot of the narratives that air starting to circulate this story and I really want to debunk a couple of them perfectly, Um or poignantly, I should say, not perfectly still little early folks still kicking in.
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I'm still trying to formulate my words because articulate as I can but fell flat on that one.
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But in any case, two stories that I do want or two narratives the Nets stories and narratives that I want to debunk first I keep seeing the term, Um, and it really it really upsets me, and it's an insult.
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Um, I see publicity stunt PR stunt run around a lot.
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Um, that's absolute garbage, folks.
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That is 100% garbage.
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The New England Patriots and Bill Belichick are bringing in Cam Newton because they believe he can contribute to this team.
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They like what they see on the field.
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They believe that there's a chance that he can come in and really contribute a lot.
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Now, whether that's simply toe push Jarrett Stadium, which I don't think that's the reason that they're doing it, builds not playing head games with Cam and saying, Oh, we're gonna bring you in You know, this is not like her.
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Brooks bringing in the kid from Minnesota, try to motivate Tonight we had no, no, no chance of him on the beautiful.
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That's not what's going on here, folks.
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He's not bringing in Cam.
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Just a push.
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Generally, Kyle makes a great point.
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If they really wanted a PR stunt, they would have signed Colin Kaepernick.
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Absolutely.
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That is my point.
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And, you know, and and even then, if they signed Kaepernick, this is not a team.
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This is not an organization or a franchise that's devoid of publicity, folks.
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The New England Patriots have a lot of light on them.
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Most of it is negative, and most of it is blinding, and most of it is blazing hot.
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They're not going to put a lot more on their back simply because they want their name in the paper.
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This is not the Dallas Cowboys.
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This is not the New York Jets, albeit to respect to both of those organizations.
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Well, more respected the Cowboys and the Jets.
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But you know that I digress.
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But in any case, this is not a team that's looking for that when and even if they did ring in Colin, it would be because they believed he was a person that could help them win on the field.
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So for anyone that saying PR stunt or publicity stunt, take that out of your head.
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That is not how the New England Patriots do business.
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I can tell you from personal experience, having spoke to several people in the organization in the past, I haven't had a chance to do much networking on this story broke a little late last night for my taste.
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But in any case, you're old, like sleep.
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Oh, yeah, I need my spite back in my day, but it's necessary for from my for my old co host here to take a breather.
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So I'm gonna have to pump the brakes just for a minute here, Um so cause we're gonna take a break here, and then when we come back, we're going to shift gears a little bit a little bit to another topic involving the Patriots.
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Before we we will circle back Teoh, Cam Newton.
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We're here live. It's Monday.
00:32:46
It's June 29 were almost July.
00:32:48
You know what? Your lives Still, I means that we're actually going to get sports back.
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I mean, I don't think people have realized it. Yeah.
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Uh, yeah.
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I mean, look, NHL nd a NFL training camp and a major league baseball.
00:33:08
I'll come back next month, and I think things are gonna start looking up for the better.
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And and look, I mean, hey, we felt like sports were back last night because not only did we get an NFL signing, we we got another punishment tour for the Patriots for something I still can't figure out what they actually did wrong, but they got punished for it, and ah, it all of a sudden it feels like, um, I almost went into ah feels like the front.
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No, no, that's not what I'm doing.
00:33:37
My brain is just I don't need to be doing that right now.
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We're not No, no.
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Any nosy today? Now we don't know. No, no.
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Ah, but no, it just feels like an NFL season because the Patriots air in the news for for a number of things.
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And look, I mean, a say what you want.
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I mean, a strategically time signing of Cam Newton.
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I mean, who knows? But the bottom line is the Patriots were fined $1.
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1 million Dr 2021 3rd round pick a swell.
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As like, there's other restrictions on their film crew.
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Um, for essentially ah, mistake by 1/3 party camera crew.
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And we've talked about it at length about the situation in the NFL, all but confirmed it.
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And they said this six months ago that they could find no link between the actual NFL football operations in this video crew.
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Now, for those wondering what happened was they were there filming a do***entary, a do***entary that has been running for, what, 34 years now, something like that.
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So this wasn't a isolated incident.
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This wasn't just a one time like, Oh, hey, you know, the Patriots just decided to start filming dot Know they were filming a scout.
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So the camera crew made a mistake and film the fields because again they were looking to get B roll footage to mix in with the actual you know, whatever interview, whatever they were doing to film the scout.
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It just it is what it is, although all the cir***stances, including getting credential, being in front of literally everyone and just, you know, just common sense tells you that there was no, um, ill intent, at least from a football standpoint again.
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But that doesn't matter, because the NFL and fans alike see this as hope.
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It's just another cheating thing.
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Well, no, I mean, there's there's context.
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The context is important in these situations because you know, not every rule broken.
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It's quote unquote cheating.
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But, you know, with the Patriots, it is because again we've seen other teams get ah punished for similar or worse cir***stances.
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I mean, the Jets literally had a, ah, similar thing where they had a film crew not involved with football operations on the sidelines of a football game.
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And doesn't matter, doesn't matter whatever.
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It's not the page.
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It's no.
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One care.
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So in this situation, the Patriots got fined and docked for this now, one of the comments saying, Oh, well, fair or not, I mean, this is, you know, the Patriots are are, you know, they're paying for past mistakes? Well, are they really or are they just paying for the NFL's passed in confidence? Because, you know, this history of cheating really involves two situations.
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Spy Gate one back in 2007 and again, no one's arguing that they didn't break a rule.
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I mean, they did.
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What we're arguing is, did the extent to which it helped them because, you know, we've heard everything from this was responsible for 34 championships, blah, blah, blah all that stuff.
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No one's denying that when it comes to deflate gate, there's.
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There's far more evidence that suggests that nothing happened, and the NFL's own and confidence is displayed right there in their own wells re sport.
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It was It was nice that the Patriots picked it apart.
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I mean, you can if you want to check it out.
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Goto Wells, Wells report in context It's It's still up and still rockin.
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So check it out and read for yourself all the discrepancies and all the, uh, just things that just don't make sense from the NFL standpoint.
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But But now people use that as Okay, well, the Patriots are being punished for past indiscretions.
00:37:08
Well, is it really an indiscretion when the NFL bundles? Ah bungles? Ah, investigation doesn't understand the effects of weather on football.
00:37:17
And then again ignores the fact that, hey, when they went into halftime, the Patriots weren't the only team that had a majority of the balls underinflated from when they started the game.
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The Colts did, too, But guess what? No one gave a beat.
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So, you know, again, in a way, I'm kind of happy.
00:37:35
I'm talking about this because it's been a nice distraction from from what we've come to, you know, recognises normal these days.
00:37:43
But at the end of day, nothing's really changed and and and ah, the NFL continues to arbitrarily issue punishments and and really kind of just goes with the public flow and everything like that.
00:37:56
So, um, and an interesting tidbit, an organizational find there.
00:38:03
There's really no much in the way of an appeals process.
00:38:06
So you know, it is what it ISS and the Patriots.
00:38:12
You know, once again, get Dr Draft pick for who does re.
00:38:17
So just say no reason, no visa. And it's true.
00:38:20
And it's true they were doctor pick for no reason.
00:38:22
And look, folks, whether you're a Patriots fan or whether you're not the hot button issue and everybody, the narrative just absolutely swarmed last night exactly the way I I figured it would.
00:38:34
Oh, here we go.
00:38:35
Once a cheater, always a cheater while cheaters never prosper blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:38:38
We've heard the same thing since Spy Gate story broke many, many moons ago and people are still miss informed about that story there Still miss informed about Deflate gate, But again, they drink the sand because they want to believe that the juggernaut of the last 20 years is nothing but a cheating organization.
00:38:53
Oh, it doesn't really matter that that organization I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna put the brakes right for a second, because I think we have a caller, and I think I know Don't be dry.
00:39:04
I believe it was Mark.
00:39:05
But if you were just calling Mr 86 So give us a call again.
00:39:08
I'm gonna I'm gonna answer the phone here, so Ah, Anyway, it's Go ahead, Mike, and I'll bring them in when they start talking again.
00:39:14
No.
00:39:15
What? No, you know what? And it gives me if this is our good green friend, and I really hope it is, Um it gives me the perfect intro to him to say that last night when I was writing up my recap which is available on full press coverage Patriots.
00:39:29
Right now, folks, go check him out both on Cam Newton and on this subject.
00:39:33
I quoted William Schwenk Gilbert, who in his work the Makato once decreed let the punishment fit the crime.
00:39:39
Well, in my opinion, folks, this punishment was disproportionate to the crime.
00:39:43
Um, you look at the $1.
00:39:44
1 million the Patriots were fined You look at the third round draft pick that was taken away every other time the NFL took away a draft pick from a franchise.
00:39:54
It was because of something that happened on the football field.
00:39:57
Whether you agree with it, whether you disagree with it, there was a correlation.
00:40:02
All correction.
00:40:04
The league has essentially indicated that there was no connection to football operations.
00:40:08
So why the docking of the draft pick? Why the fine of $1.
00:40:12
1 million? Talk to Daniel Lust sports law, lest on Twitter was one of the leading sports attorneys in the country on Friday, unlocked on Patriots and the two of us discussed this matter.
00:40:23
I almost feel like we jinxed it because we brought it up and not well publicized in so long.
00:40:28
And then all of a sudden Sunday night it hits well.
00:40:31
And he and I'm sorry that I was going to say We're going to try to break the jinx for a year real quick because I don't know if this is a coincidence, but my call screen is lit up in green.
00:40:40
So is this the ah, the man they call Murph? Is he on the other line? It would be e.
00:40:48
I knew it.
00:40:49
Oh, Monday.
00:40:51
Yes, Else from year 60 calls you.
00:40:54
No, that's true.
00:40:55
that you're actually I don't think I know anyone else from the 86 so actually, no, no, I got Miguel Pats cap he sees from Connecticut.
00:41:01
So, Yeah, There you go.
00:41:02
Oh, McGill calls you.
00:41:03
I didn't you? I mean, I'm just saying it could It could It could have been him.
00:41:07
It could have been him.
00:41:08
I'm just saying, You know, you're one of two people I know from Connecticut, so Murphy were so happy it could have been visiting way.
00:41:15
How we doing? Good. Good, good.
00:41:17
Were tested out the ah, this is our new phone system.
00:41:20
So clearly it's coming in nice and clear for you.
00:41:23
I I assume right it is.
00:41:25
Okay.
00:41:26
Good. Then again, I'm on a landline that actually dials.
00:41:28
Yeah, that's I mean, folks for you, young kids out there, and landline is actually a phone that plugs into the wall.
00:41:33
Um, yes.
00:41:34
So obviously you were listening, and this is just another Ah, another year.
00:41:39
And in the Patriots history of getting find and doc draft picks for I I just I don't have an answer for that. So we don't know.
00:41:49
We have We don't know.
00:41:50
Um, all reports beforehand.
00:41:52
came out that, you know, there's there's no link.
00:41:54
There's no core correlation.
00:41:56
There's no, you know, yada, yada, yada.
00:41:58
Uh oh.
00:41:59
There goes another third round pick.
00:42:01
This is ridiculous.
00:42:03
Guys, this is This is moronic.
00:42:05
And all it does is continue to feed this.
00:42:09
How free a my to speak here. Okay.
00:42:11
Hey, go for man.
00:42:13
Go for it.
00:42:14
It is this arm ****in ****ed? Okay, I'm tired of this.
00:42:19
I'm sick of this.
00:42:20
And there's already people the spin doctors out there already talking about how the patriots are still getting away with murder.
00:42:27
Okay, this was a do***entary film that's been going on forever and a day.
00:42:33
Give me a break and we sit here.
00:42:35
We get 1/3 round pick and I get 80 gets like Mike.
00:42:37
Francesca Freaking That said there the pictures to get off easy.
00:42:42
Gotay.
00:42:43
Louise e can't take it anymore.
00:42:46
I just can't.
00:42:47
And then on Complicit, You know Fig Newton is coming to town.
00:42:52
Shoot me.
00:42:53
Yes, I I know you're you're not quite quite the fan of the move, so yeah, I'll give I'll give you the floor on the move.
00:42:59
And I'm willing to say that a lot of that is personal.
00:43:02
Okay, I personally do not like Cam Newton as human being.
00:43:06
I don't care.
00:43:07
What would Christian McCaffrey has to say about him? I don't care what any of his fellow teammates have to say about.
00:43:13
You know **** well nobody's gonna come out and trash him.
00:43:17
None of his former teammates are going to do that.
00:43:20
That's not gonna happen.
00:43:21
That doesn't That doesn't happen.
00:43:22
That happens after players retire.
00:43:24
Um, I like this move slightly less than I would if Eli me if you, I or Peyton Manning were coming here.
00:43:33
Oh, wow, that's it.
00:43:35
And look, I mean, that's that's fair, too, because I'm I'm I'm skeptical from a football standpoint.
00:43:41
I you know, again because you know, if he's healthy and he can play on the field, you know, that's great.
00:43:46
And, you know, I I do have a lot of faith in this coaching staff and the players on this team.
00:43:51
Um, again, I my skepticism comes from from the football field.
00:43:57
Like, what is he? Is he healthy enough? You know, what I mean is this foot right is his shoulder, right? It is his throwing shoulder.
00:44:03
So that's that's where my questions come in.
00:44:05
I I do feel, though, that Bill Belichick isn't going to make this move just to make a move.
00:44:11
This this is meant to, uh, not only pushed Jarrett's did him, but this is a legitimate quarter bit quarterback competition.
00:44:18
And, ah, again I mean and Bill, I trust I got I got to put my faith in the guy who's it had been bred pretty right.
00:44:25
Assuming you don't listen to Boston sports media on a regular basis, that's true.
00:44:30
You know, there's there's no denying that there is arguing that otherwise there wouldn't be spot for Boston Sports radio.
00:44:38
Um, but it's just I right now where I'm in shock because we've sat there and we've traded the best quarterback in the NFL in the end of history.
00:44:49
For a guy that wouldn't jump on a fumble in his own frickin Super Bowl, and that makes me insane, it really does.
00:44:56
And as Kyle said in Cam's defense, there's cops Arena.
00:45:00
We're here in the chat room.
00:45:03
There are much more deplorable human beings playing football in the NFL through.
00:45:08
I just think I just can't see it's guys like him.
00:45:12
Guys like Peyton, who sit there and point fingers at everybody else on the planet and have no accountability whatsoever.
00:45:20
This is a guy that's thrown for 60% of passes as completions twice in his career.
00:45:26
Not that he's that prolific of, ah, downfield guy to begin with, it's, you know, he's coming office, So shoulder surgery is also coming off a foot surgery.
00:45:38
Um, believe me, Steve is a little more Melo headed than I am about This is always that things smart guy, good looking one that you guys can all hear that tomorrow on brand new episode of One Patriot Louis, which will debut right here on this radio network.
00:45:59
Fantastic.
00:46:00
I can't wait.
00:46:01
It just tells me that I have a little bit more work on my plate tomorrow.
00:46:04
So when it comes out, but but it's good, it's good.
00:46:06
It was like that loaded up And of course, of course, Noah happy to do it, of course.
00:46:13
And I look forward to, and I was going to say, you know, this is a perfect time for a one page it's place.
00:46:17
Get the ying and the yang between you and Steve, you know, get it maybe head.
00:46:21
So it's good, you know, it's a pretty good gang.
00:46:23
And Yang? Yeah, not, you know, brag or anything.
00:46:27
But, you know, we've been in the same locker room, so we know the yin and yang of each other.
00:46:31
Yeah, there's it's a weird such might drop off.
00:46:40
No, he's here, don't you doing? I need a meant.
00:46:45
I need a man who has powerful.
00:46:47
Can I hear Michael? Oh, you can't hear him? No.
00:46:50
Oh, you know, Mike, I'm not I'm not ignoring you.
00:46:54
This phone system is that messed up.
00:46:55
I just do not hear you, my friend.
00:46:58
It's OK.
00:46:59
That's that's that's That's certainly Ah, that's probably something on my and it were.
00:47:02
Rooster is still working out the kinks here on the Yeah.
00:47:06
Okay.
00:47:07
Work out the kinks.
00:47:08
You know, work out some kinks in training camp and you hear me? Yeah, I can I can hear you Mike it so you can hear me.
00:47:16
OK, Kendall Marr.
00:47:17
If I need it, tell more if I need a man who has powerful friends Mike says he needs he needs.
00:47:22
He needs a man who has powerful friends.
00:47:25
I need $1.
00:47:26
1 million in cash.
00:47:27
$1.1 million in cash.
00:47:30
I need Don earlier, like so many nickels and nine years how this is going to break down, cap wise or not.
00:47:39
Um, I'm sure with the incentives that they were talking about that the base salary can't be much of anything.
00:47:47
And I don't see anyone getting cut for this.
00:47:52
Do you guys? Well, I I think according to, you know, Miguel Pats Cap.
00:47:57
Um, you know, since a lot of those incentives are not Ah, so, you know, not assuming to be made.
00:48:04
So there's obviously a different distinction if you if you give a player a bunch of incentives that are are pretty easy to reach that number is gonna count on that current years cap.
00:48:13
Well, in this case, since ah, obviously Cam only played three games last year, and then obviously it was has been dealing with injuries.
00:48:21
Um, the incentives that are in his contract are expected to be made, so if he does hit every single one of them, all that extra money is gonna be on next year's cap, which is which is a key part of this, which makes this a really a no lose situation for the Patriots whether it works or not for them.
00:48:38
Um I mean, put it this way, though.
00:48:40
I mean to say, Say they go with dead, okay, and state is one in three.
00:48:46
I'll get into into this more tomorrow.
00:48:48
Um, after much more coffee and thoughtless booze, because no more boost more boosts.
00:48:55
Um, the e se se at it, you know, were one in three and instead has thrown, you know, three picks already and across one of 11 game, maybe two.
00:49:10
What's going on is we know the media is going to be screaming after Newton and how how conducive to, ah, locker room, How conducive to the future of this ranch eyes.
00:49:28
Is it putting that kind of stress on a situation? I mean, I know you know, Bill, just brush it right off.
00:49:36
I'm not sure that that it's I don't get it.
00:49:40
Well, and to that, I would say this and this kind of goes back to the bill, I trust, because I don't think like some coaches out there, they're not gonna give in to the media, especially the media in this city.
00:49:53
Which again way we could spend that we could spend the whole two hours talking about all that nonsense.
00:49:59
But so to me, I don't see Bill ever giving into that type of pressure.
00:50:03
So he's if he believes in Jared system.
00:50:05
If there 13 he's not gonna bet you, um you know, because he's not the guy was gonna pull the plug too early.
00:50:11
And let's see unless he sees something.
00:50:13
Or again.
00:50:14
If he does do that, then I have to believe that there's something that just isn't there.
00:50:18
But even if he struggles to start, I don't think Bill's gonna make a quarterback change to appease the media or appease the fans, right, whatever.
00:50:28
So, in that sense, I I try Just no need to panic in my life now is true.
00:50:32
No, I understand.
00:50:33
I understand.
00:50:34
I get it, I get it.
00:50:36
But this this this, this community, this this region has has come to peace with itself as to Brady moving on this just my opinion and that Jared Stadium was going to be the starting quarterback this year.
00:50:51
Um, and to throw this into it right now, I thought was was not nice.
00:51:01
It was looking like a more laid back season.
00:51:03
You know something where you could actually take a breath and not have to monitor your blood pressure every single day? Just that, you know.
00:51:10
But, hey, I didn't have to worry about being 13 3 and getting, you know, we were We were going to get to be, you know, ah, regular NFL town that, you know, sits back.
00:51:20
Hey, if we make the playoffs, good deal.
00:51:22
You know, and we haven't had that in a very long time.
00:51:27
And I just really looking forward toa how this all works out.
00:51:32
Um, I'm I'm looking forward to Fig Newtons press conference announcing his signing here.
00:51:39
And I'm looking forward to continuously shutting up.
00:51:43
People like Richard Sherman were wondering why former MVP's are only being paid.
00:51:48
You know what? They're being paid because e Asai told Richard, um, once you go take a look at couple of the contracts.
00:51:56
Kurt Warner? Yeah.
00:51:58
Great boy. He was.
00:51:59
He was the M V P.
00:52:01
Twice wasn't Teoh 2000 and our 1999 to 2001.
00:52:06
Right? He did win in 2001.
00:52:08
Correct? Yes or no? What? I was that your right okay.
00:52:11
I couldn't remember for it.
00:52:12
Was him or Mike is probably correcting me right now.
00:52:14
I e I I think I think I think he's the smartest man in the room.
00:52:19
I think Mike is snoring right now on the other end.
00:52:21
I I'm not sure. I think we might be boring.
00:52:23
Amore. It's just the old age.
00:52:25
Yeah, it's just the old age.
00:52:26
She is 40 now, so not everyone takes to it as well as our big friend and Connecticut are.
00:52:33
When it comes to the much like says, You're cracking, I have t shirts older.
00:52:39
Well, great show.
00:52:41
Awesome. Thank you for taking my phone call.
00:52:43
Oh, it's definitely worth it.
00:52:45
And Mike, I guess I'll talk to you 15 minutes before some air time when you you need me to come and we'll get absolutely weekly.
00:52:53
Tell him Weekly, locked on where Fist says Weekly, locked on Martha's definitely on the horizon and and next time you call in, we will figure out these.
00:53:01
They use calling issue.
00:53:04
I want to hear Mike, I know you wanted to hear Mike, and next time we'll make sure you're so summer Day is not complete.
00:53:13
Next time toe locked on six days ago. Exactly.
00:53:17
What? We'll break it down.
00:53:18
And don't forget tomorrow, folks.
00:53:20
One patriots places back right here on full press coverage.
00:53:23
Radio. Awesome.
00:53:24
You guys ready to hear from you? That was our friend. Good.
00:53:28
Good conversation.
00:53:29
Although Mike was unable to participate.
00:53:31
And that's good.
00:53:32
That's good to know that we now have a ah technical issue to solve when it comes to that radio thing.
00:53:37
We're now again, I let let me ask you again.
00:53:39
Were you able to hear him? Right? I could hear him. Okay.
00:53:43
Okay.
00:53:44
Everything that was going on, I could hear there was no issues, you know, Felt like I was able to when he was coming in loud and clear, I felt like I was able to answer him, and then we'll just I guess he just didn't hear me on Island on that.
00:53:54
And But I know I know exactly what I know exactly what the issue is, so I'll get that worked out.
00:53:59
Well, get that figure out.
00:54:00
But, you know, look, it was a good conversation, and obviously he, um he's a little bit more skeptical of it.
00:54:06
And look, I'm not I'm not going to sit there and say that.
00:54:09
Ah, I I can sit there and defend every time.
00:54:12
You know, like, you know, that he was soaking on the silence, but at the same time, I'm gonna keep an open mind and see it for myself because we know how things get framed in the media.
00:54:21
And as much as we cover the sport, and as much as we obsess over it, we can't give 100% attention to every single team.
00:54:28
So a lot of times, we don't know a lot of the nuances.
00:54:32
So I'm gonna I'm gonna watch from this point of view, um, and and, you know, and see, like from all accounts will if what the's former players air saying are true and again, you can have your skepticism.
00:54:45
You can have your doubts.
00:54:46
But, um, you know, we'll see how it is.
00:54:48
And like Murph said, it adds, Ah, this level intrigued that we thought where it was gonna be absent this season, like there was a lot.
00:54:56
Don't get me wrong. There was a lot of intrigue.
00:54:58
Um, there is a lot of intrigue about the season because of Jared system and how the team would look post on Brady.
00:55:05
I'm not saying there wasn't but kind of how Mark put it.
00:55:09
Like Mel.
00:55:10
All of a sudden, that pressure is back on because again, if Cam Newton comes in and wins the starting job, all of the sudden expectations, they're going to be much higher from this team.
00:55:20
But whether they're legitimate or not, because again, we don't really know who Jared cinemas.
00:55:24
And to this day, we still don't know.
00:55:27
We're just making assumptions based on moves by by the team.
00:55:31
So, um, excuse me so again, it's gonna be interesting.
00:55:35
And, Mike, I know you're chomping at the bit to speak.
00:55:38
We're gonna have to hold off for just five more minutes because we are going to go to our last break, and then we when we come back, we will give Mike the chance toe toe, let it all out because he's been holding back for a little bit.
00:55:47
So stay tuned.
00:55:49
Folks will be back in Ah, five minutes.
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01:02:26
And, uh, yeah, this Wednesday, it's gonna be a good deal.
01:02:28
So I'm sure they might be mentioned a little camp, June.
01:02:31
Kind of like what? We are here now, And, uh, I know that's something you wanted to bring up.
01:02:35
So I I since you didn't get to speak to bunch during the last part because of some technical issues.
01:02:43
Ah, character concerns.
01:02:45
And this is something that again, right off the bat pops up, um, that again, this It might have some.
01:02:53
Ah, you There might be other issues at hand When when you say character, depending on what you're talking about.
01:03:00
Because, like Murph brought up, there are things like some of the sulking on the sidelines that that I've seen again, not covering the team 100%.
01:03:10
I I don't see everything thing.
01:03:11
So of course, the media is going to focus on the negative.
01:03:14
So maybe that's the image that I have.
01:03:16
But, you know, there are legitimate concerns like, yeah, you want to see after watching Tom Brady, there's gonna be a very high standard of quarterback play here in New England that people are going to expect.
01:03:26
And, you know, the Are the optics of him not diving on that football in Super Bowl bad? Yeah, absolutely.
01:03:34
It just doesn't look good for you, especially for a team that, you know, didn't really You know, they didn't have a great game in that game.
01:03:40
So But at the end of the day, this idea that he has, ah, quote unquote character issues outside of football or anything like that, it's absurd.
01:03:48
And it's it's just patently false.
01:03:50
Um, you know, like I tweeted out this morning.
01:03:53
Ah, you know, you can go ahead and just do a simple Cam Newton Google search and you'll be hard pressed to find ah, several not to find several stories about his charitable work, or or, you know, things that he's done in the community.
01:04:07
Everything like that.
01:04:08
I mean, he is the Panthers raining nominee for the Walter Payton Man of the Year award, and you know, from from what we've heard from players and you know, folks that cover the coverage league, that's one of the most sought after most Ah, e, I guess.
01:04:23
Ah, you know, one of the the awards that players take the most pride in because it speaks to your involvement in the community and what you do outside of the football field.
01:04:32
And I think there's no question about who can is outside the football field.
01:04:37
I think you will be great for the community.
01:04:39
I think it adds, you know, obviously Ah, a guy who's, you know, you're replacing another guy who's very great in the community despite, you know, again, some of the narratives written about him.
01:04:50
So I want to try to dispel these thes character issue concerns outside of the football field.
01:04:55
I mean, if you have concerns about again, you know, some of the sulking and some of the the quote unquote attitude on the field.
01:05:01
Yeah, I can I can see that I do want to see for myself.
01:05:05
You know how he acts here.
01:05:07
You know, maybe it's different.
01:05:08
Maybe Maybe it's just pay playing in Carolina That does it for you. Who knows.
01:05:12
But, um, yeah, at the end of day, I mean, I think there's more intrigue and then doubt for May.
01:05:16
So I guess I marked me as excited or at least again, intrigue is maybe the best word.
01:05:23
Yeah, I think that's the best word to use that.
01:05:25
That's exactly how I feel about this. I'm intrigued.
01:05:28
I think there's a lot to like, potentially about this sign, because again it comes down to low risk, potentially very high reward.
01:05:35
Yes, character issues are definitely, uh, about they've always surround.
01:05:39
They've always surrounded Cam, mostly since that Super Bowl, Um, where you know, not diving on the fumble.
01:05:46
I mean, you know, body language that was shown at times they were all different kinds of reasons to maybe discount the fact that this may be the fit that everybody hopes it's going to bay.
01:05:56
And look, there is no one that holds my good friend Murph in higher regard than I do.
01:05:59
He is family to me, and I'm not knocking his opinions at all because I think he makes some valid points and he has valid concerns.
01:06:06
My response to that is that the Patriots have Anak, maybe more so than most other sports teams, maybe than any other sports team of being able to get guys in here that may have had some behavioral orb attitude problems in the past.
01:06:22
Able t perceived, exactly perceived.
01:06:24
Thank you.
01:06:25
I'm glad that you made that correction because that is something people that have had perceived attitude, you know, issues in the past come in to the New England Patriots system and straight now.
01:06:37
I mean, let's face it, guys like Randy Moss.
01:06:39
Guys like Corey Dillon did not have the greatest of reputations of 19 guys of being, you know, always engaged before they came to New England.
01:06:48
These are two guys that were accused of dogging it on several occasions, and they came in here and really, I think, you know, played very well during the time that they that they did.
01:06:57
I know toward the end of Randy stint here toward the end of Cory staying here, some of that had worn a little thin, but at the same time when they needed when the Patriots needed them to step up and perform, they were the intent or anything of that nature.
01:07:16
I'm definitely not comparing the two.
01:07:18
You mention the humanitarian work that he does in the community, uh, the high regard to which his former teammates and opposing players hold him.
01:07:26
You saw a lot of ground swelling of people that were really excited for Cam last night.
01:07:30
Again, you're not gonna find people that are gonna trash him right now.
01:07:34
Immerse right.
01:07:35
That's just not done.
01:07:36
But at the same time, none of these people have to go out there and make these comments and make thes thes statements about him.
01:07:42
So I'm keeping an open mind when it comes to Cam.
01:07:45
I don't think character issues factored into the Patriots decision to bring him in.
01:07:50
I think if there were significant character issues, I don't believe they would have taken the chance.
01:07:54
I think they see a potential upside on the field.
01:07:57
We're willing to accept all the baggage that comes around it.
01:08:00
But again, this is a very low risk, you know, deal for them, if for any reason can just is not a fit in New England, you cut him loose with a $1,000,000 you know, gone.
01:08:10
And all of a sudden it doesn't become quite the difficulty cap hit or the difficult albatross around the Patriots neck for bringing in a guy very similar to what they had with Antonio Brown lash here.
01:08:21
That ended up being, ah, big problem for them, that contract with guaranteed money and then the fact that they had to account for that on the cap really prevented them from being able to improve this team down the stretch after it was proven that Antonio didn't work out here.
01:08:35
So in a lot of ways, I see some similarity.
01:08:39
But I think Cam has a trip and this system more upside.
01:08:43
And I think there's a lot more character in this man, then maybe some of the malcontents that we've seen around the league, like Kyle said, There are plenty more deplorable guys like no going in the NFL right now other than Cam Newton.
01:08:54
So again I look for this.
01:08:55
I look for Can Teoh Teoh to be able to come in, compete for the starting job, and I go back to the point earlier of this not being an indictment on Jared Stadium.
01:09:06
This could actually work to Jarrett's advantage.
01:09:08
I mean, he made difficult competition, which again I believe it is, and this may raise his game and if it does and he's able to outperform Cam and the Patriots realized, well, maybe this kid's a little more special than we even thought then this.
01:09:26
This could be the beginning of something for the Patriots in for Jared Stadium here.
01:09:29
If it in any way he is hampered by either a lack of an offseason or just the pressure of coming in and being essentially a rookie, that has to take the clipboard and take the mantra of being the face of the franchise from, ah, living legend and icon here in ah, in New England.
01:09:49
Then Cam Newton is a pretty good guy, a pretty good bridge quarterback to get you through.
01:09:53
Ah, you know, maybe this season, maybe even beyond for a year until Jared is ready to take the reins.
01:09:58
So there's a lot to consider a lot to think about, but I'm a little higher than my good friend on the on this signing.
01:10:06
But I share some of his curiosity because this is not just a slam dunk.
01:10:09
And I saw some fans, you know, basically rejoicing and thinking that the Patriots air punching their ticket now to the Super Bowl.
01:10:16
It's definitely not the case, folks, you know you're gonna have to really show a little temperance and and see what What this kid can do on the field right now because he is coming off of some severe injuries, including one to his throwing shoulder that could potentially have difficulty.
01:10:32
Yeah, and, yeah, there's absolutely certainly concerns when it comes that and you want to see him healthy.
01:10:37
But, you know, positive is, you know, he's decided whole season off.
01:10:41
Essentially, Um, if you know, if you believe in and you know his his I guess, Dr Which again, I don't think there's any reason to doubt it.
01:10:53
Okay, it's This is this could be a great situation for both men.
01:10:57
Do you put any stock into the whole Auburn connection there between stadium and Ah, Cam, obviously, you know, many years apart.
01:11:05
But, you know, they're still that Ah, both having gone to auburn and everything, you put any into that as to why camps here.
01:11:14
Funny that you mention that, my good buddy, because I will be talking.
01:11:18
Teoh could be who host locked on auburn later today.
01:11:20
And we're gonna be talking about that auburn flavor in the Patriots locker room and the connection that these two look.
01:11:27
I mean, there's no question about it.
01:11:28
I mean whenever teammates at Auburn.
01:11:30
I mean, there's just there's there's no physical or emotional connection between the two.
01:11:35
But, you know, there is obviously a synergy there between these two guys.
01:11:39
They do share the same alma mater.
01:11:41
That does length, um, in in, you know, in some way, shape or form, I guess, is the best way to put it.
01:11:47
But no, I don't think it really had anything to do with bringing in an Auburn guy.
01:11:51
I think they just saw Cam Newton of the individual.
01:11:54
The pro eyes being available was being someone that they could now afford based on what the market will bear.
01:12:00
And I think that was their primary motivations.
01:12:03
So I don't think can being from from Auburn.
01:12:05
I don't think Jared being from Auburn has any type of in the two.
01:12:12
There are similarities in their game is believe it or not.
01:12:14
Jared's a little more mobile in a little bit more capable of running the ball than a lot of people would lead you to believe he does have that capability.
01:12:22
So I'm gonna pick sacks brain on that a little bit because he'd be the better person.
01:12:25
Teoh talk to on that subject, But in any case, I just don't see it right now.
01:12:30
I think it's a coincidence, and it makes for a nice copy.
01:12:33
It definitely makes for nice headlines and, you know, story ideas and maybe even podcast ideas.
01:12:38
But other than that, I don't think you're going to see too much made out of that.
01:12:41
I think it's going to be either Jared Stadiums job or Cam Newton's job based on how they perform on the practice field.
01:12:48
What we see in preseason, Yeah, and and look, I mean, like I said when we when we started the show, this is This is an open competition And again, I don't think you bring in Cam Newton to just be a guy to to push Jared system now.
01:13:01
Eventually, he could be that guy who pushes Jared's to them.
01:13:05
But it doesn't mean he's not gonna have a chance to win the job, because I think he will again if he's healthy.
01:13:12
We remember Bill Go Belle Check benched a guy that just signed $100 million contract that richest in the NFL for getting injured, which was again, that's something that just you did never did before you You couldn't lose your job to injury.
01:13:27
Um, I mean, again, I'm ITT's saying, And it, for the most part, pretty true, and especially when it comes to the quarterback.
01:13:35
But guess what? Bill Belichick went with, the guy he thought was better.
01:13:39
****ed, you know, contract be ****ed And prestige be ****ed so to me.
01:13:44
And there's no doubt in my mind if Kim Newton comes in and out perform.
01:13:47
Sterritt said, Um, Cam Newton is a starting quarterback, you know, for the Russian and you know what happens Moving forward.
01:13:54
We don't know because again, maybe they anticipated when they drafted Jared Jared that Tom was going to stay.
01:14:02
So the time frame to the three years sitting behind Tom Brady.
01:14:05
Well, you only got one.
01:14:07
You know, maybe you get get another sitting behind.
01:14:12
Maybe this gives you an actual real feeling of competition, because again, you know, it's just natural.
01:14:17
Human beings can become complacent.
01:14:19
And I'm not saying Jared Stadium is, but, you know, look, I mean, had Cam Newton not come onto this roster, you know, that's his job.
01:14:26
I mean, I don't think anyone sitting there thinking Bryant order is gonna be starting quarterback unless you're Ben Volin.
01:14:32
But, um, yeah, I really I mean, you don't you just There's no reason for Ben Brian Horror to be your starting quarterback.
01:14:41
You, either.
01:14:42
If those were the two year old with carrots did, um good, bad or ugly? Doesn't matter.
01:14:46
That's where the guy you're going with because Hoyer gives you no upside other than he's a good veteran quarterback, backup quarterback.
01:14:53
On this team you bring, you bring Cam Newton in and and all of a sudden again, if if Newton's better, he will start.
01:14:59
And you know, again, it's not 2015 but he is a former M v P.
01:15:05
He you know, Obviously, I went in and brought a team to super the Super Bowl every year.
01:15:13
Now, now, maybe those expectations have been adjusted a little bit without Tom Brady.
01:15:17
But, um, you know, you could do a lot worse than Cam.
01:15:21
Dude, let's put it that way.
01:15:22
Ah, yeah, yeah, I agree with that.
01:15:26
I don't think this fills Patriots Nation with a false sense of security.
01:15:30
I know some people are concerned about that.
01:15:32
It sounds like that might have been one immerse concerns that people were coming in here now, all of sudden thinking that the Patriots were returning to glory.
01:15:39
And I even hinted that, you know, at that a little bit earlier about, you know, Patriots fans that automatically think that this is a propulsion into a Super Bowl contention.
01:15:47
Once again, I think there's a lot that needs to be work.
01:15:50
I think there's a lot that needs to be seen on the field before we even anoint that, whether it be Jared Stadium or Cam Newton for starting for this team this year, I think there's still a lot of growing pains, and there's still a lot of question marks that the Patriots have that aren't related to the quarterback position.
01:16:03
Look, I mean, they have an offensive line we talked earlier about to me and whether or not he might be back, you know, in terms of ah, then extending in to try to open up some cap space because obviously this move puts even more of a stranglehold on the cap situation that the Patriots have.
01:16:20
They were already in precarious cat problems that this makes it even worse, so they're gonna have to free up some some money there.
01:16:26
But if you don't bring back Joe Tony, what does that mean for this offensive line? I mean, are they going to be able to provide the protection for a guy like Cam Newton or even a guy like Jared Stadium to make sure that their upright and they stay healthy? Especially when can has? His injury has a mystery, and you know, he's known for taking chances with the ball.
01:16:43
He'll not.
01:16:44
He does throw caution to the wind a little bit, Mawr and, you know, at the same time, the offensive line is used to protecting a guy like Tom Brady who was so good at protecting its health, protecting his safety and, you know, trying to ward off injury.
01:16:58
He was one of the best in the league's history of being able to do that so they may not have that luxury this year.
01:17:04
There's still some questions at the linebacker position.
01:17:07
Believe it or not as well, They've got a lot of rookie a lot of young players in that were vacated by by Jamie Collins and Kyle Van Noy, guys who had leadership experience and locker room experience there.
01:17:21
There's questions about the running games, questions about the wide receiver position to.
01:17:24
So there are a lot of issues that the Patriots will need to address in training camp that are independent of the quarterback position as well.
01:17:33
And a lot of these are questions that air questions every single offseason that the only difference being as you always had that rock in Tom Brady.
01:17:42
And no matter no matter what those questions were as long as you had Tom Brady, it didn't matter, and the proof is in the pudding.
01:17:50
We We've seen the Patriots never have a losing season under Brady and be in Super Bowl contention literally every single year.
01:17:57
Now, does it mean every single year they went to the Super Bowl? No.
01:18:00
But every other year they did.
01:18:02
So you know again.
01:18:04
And it is a far greater rate than really any other team, especially over that stretch of ah of time.
01:18:10
I mean, who's ever gonna go to nine Super Bowls and 18 seasons under one quarterback? Um, so you know, that's and that's and that's where things you know, where were the uncer*****y still lies, because again, you don't have that rock and and as good as Cameron can be, he won't be Tom Brady.
01:18:28
And there are things that you're gonna have to accept that a You know, he's just not calm Brady, but just fine.
01:18:34
That's Dina.
01:18:35
Knock again.
01:18:36
You know Aaron Rodgers isn't Tom Brady.
01:18:38
Drew Brees is. And Tom Brady. Sorry people.
01:18:40
I mean, they're just not No.
01:18:42
One's Tom Brady.
01:18:43
It's just how it is.
01:18:44
So if you can accept that that you know what all the sun and you're looking at it like it's that I mean to go from Tom Brady to potentially Cam Newton, even at again 75% of his 2015 season.
01:18:56
I think you're you're feeling pretty good now.
01:18:59
Does that mean you're Super Bowl contender? We'll have to see.
01:19:02
I mean, you could have been a Super Bowl contender, Which Eriks didn't we we just didn't know.
01:19:06
So, um, it's all about, you know, being patient and kind of seeing how it is, because I guess what happens.
01:19:14
You just don't have that rock with Tom Brady under center.
01:19:16
You know what you're gonna get? You're gonna get a F C East Division championship.
01:19:21
It doesn't matter if the defense is great, bad, mediocre.
01:19:24
It didn't matter who you had.
01:19:26
Ah, I mean, look at last season.
01:19:28
Probably the worst offensive supporting cast they've had in terms of skill and just ah, overall Ah, bad situations when it comes to injuries.
01:19:37
And they still won the division now again that their work out in the playoffs.
01:19:40
But okay, you know, there's only one other team that went to four straight Super Bowls.
01:19:45
Too bad the Patriots had to do it.
01:19:46
But, you know, I got a few other things to fall back on.
01:19:48
So, um so, yeah, so, yeah, that's that's my thought.
01:19:53
Pretty much, no, I think you know what? You echoed a lot of the sentiments and and I think of not just myself, but all the Patriots nation is that we really there's There's still a lot to be determined.
01:20:04
There's still a lot to be worked out, but this does cause and and it gives adequate cause, I think, for excitement among Patriots Nation because now up, all of a sudden, that veteran leadership that you were made a little bit worried about that the Patriots didn't have at the quarterback position.
01:20:20
When it comes to a guy like Jared Stadium.
01:20:22
Safer Brian Boyer, who's a very good back up again.
01:20:25
I hold Brian and very high regard, and I think he does come in here and allow you even to make a spot start if he needs to.
01:20:32
He's been a starting quarterback.
01:20:33
He knows what it takes to do that.
01:20:35
But Brian was never gonna be the guy that was gonna be the bridge quarterback to the next big thing here in New England.
01:20:41
If you believe that, that was too much to place on the shoulders of Jared Stadium.
01:20:45
Now all of a sudden, Cam Newton can handle that.
01:20:47
Or at least we believe he can, based on, you know, his career and what he's done in Carolina.
01:20:51
So I think that right now gives the Patriots that added dimension.
01:20:55
Once again, you want to be, you know, cautious in his health.
01:20:59
You want to be cautious about what that brings you know to the table and how he's going to be able to play through some of the injuries that he's had.
01:21:06
Eyes there, any rust on him this year.
01:21:09
By all accounts, people seem to be posting on social media that he's been working out working very hard and looks good, so, you know, well, hope to see if if that'll be the case as well.
01:21:19
Ultimately, I think it adds a level of competition with he and Jarrett, and we'll see what the Patriots were able to dio quarterback wise this year.
01:21:29
At the very least, if it doesn't work out, he moves on Jarrett your guy and you're pretty much exactly where you started.
01:21:34
So as you eloquently said to open the show today, Buddy is really The Patriots had nowhere to go but up on this one.
01:21:40
And at that point, how could you not take the chance to see what's? Ah, It's still left in the tank for Cam Newton because if all things were clicking on all cylinders and he ends up coming in here with everything you know, that he needs to succeed could end up being a more exciting year in New England.
01:21:56
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01:22:01
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01:22:07
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