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00:05:20
Yep. Michael just reacted to that.
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Josh Berman.
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Where? I got it. Yep.
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Luke Brown will be joining us.
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You, but strap in, because for the next hour, you got all right.
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We got a little out of them.
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We will be showing you guys our interview with CBS Sports broadcaster and the voice of the Brooklyn Nets.
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Yes, the voice of the Brooklyn Nets.
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I in Eagle.
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All right.
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So our biggest interview yet our best interview yet and our longest interview yet and essentially interview week here on the next.
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We'll hear from that a little bit later on.
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But first again, a special announcement in the end.
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So make sure you stay there for that.
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Go to the at the end.
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We have special announcement, so you gotta be there for that.
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We'll also we're not even done when this interview's over.
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They will both not be going to Orlando about this thing that maybe I believe me.
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I think we should, because you're So is this a 35? It was she to score center out on.
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That's fine.
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We'll wait. Well, what I want to get. You Sure? Yeah.
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All right.
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Do we have some other stuff? Um, room.
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What else happened today? Dad officially signed his head.
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You talk about a little yesterday? It's true. Oh, Jamal.
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Am's sad that he's trying.
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Yeah, but that's the biggest shocker ever.
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Not so, Yeah, I saw me. I saw him.
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So, you know, like there's a guy walks up like the store.
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There's like a cat in there that I'll get you out.
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I'll get you Gotta promise. Yes.
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So I saw me.
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And today Lester who who's a Busby, was like Jerry Jones ran out to Jamal Adams and somebody I said, Your man.
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I see a drafted kitchen that perfectly that let's show one hour long.
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Let's just put it on right now.
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Let's go, let's go.
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All right, here we go.
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Ladies and gentlemen, this is our exclusive interview with the voice of the Brooklyn Nets.
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I am Eagle.
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Take the better.
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I will do that for a second.
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And Han, there we go.
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All right, We're gonna ship.
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All right.
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Enjoy our exclusive interview.
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All right, Now joining us.
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We have NFL on CBS, and answer is look as well as college basketball on CBS announcer NBN Canty an answer and the voice of the Brooklyn ISS on the yes network.
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Creative Some No.
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On a couple weeks ago. Now we have I an eagle.
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Thank you so much for gonorrhea.
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Oh, it told me at such a good time with you guys, so I took the plunge.
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It's great to see it.
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It's you, too. Thank you. Yeah.
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Um, so you're umbc ahead and I have a big back to the coming to where you are right now, today going to Syracuse and, you know, doing great.
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They're winning the above cost this award for best forecaster.
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I want no, like your whole journey.
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How you got where you are now.
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Well, how much time do we have? You know those guys? Yeah.
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I had an interest in this at a very young age.
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I was probably eight years old, and I told my parents that this is what I wanted to do, and both told me then that's what you'll do.
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They were really encouraging.
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This is 1977.
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This was certainly not considered a popular vocation at that point, but I knew that I had an interest in sports.
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I knew that I had a little bit of the gift of Gabai had a performance gene in there.
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My parents were both entertainers.
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My dad was a comedian and actor, a musician.
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My mom was a singer and an actress, so I just thought this would be a great way to make a living.
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But at eight years old in the seventies, there was really not much that you could do about that.
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Other than calling fictitious games on your bed, using baseball cards or recreating an event in your shower, where there were often very good acoustics of the sound.
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Very good, very clean afterwards.
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But ultimately that was the extent of what I was doing.
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It wasn't until I got to Syracuse that I got serious about it.
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I work for multiple radio stations.
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I interned for Mike Tirico, who was working at the CBS affiliate Ah, locally and Syracuse.
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I ended up working a lot, and I immersed myself in it.
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Got an internship at W.
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F.
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A and radio in New York between my junior and senior year of college and ended up going back to F.
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And when I graduated in a behind the scenes role, but knowing full well, I wanted to be on the air one day and just did everything in my power to improve myself, to take it all in through osmosis.
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And I almost looked at the F a a N job as graduate school in many ways an extension of what I was doing at Syracuse.
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And then along the way I called a lot of breaks on a lot of people that believed in me that trusted me.
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And I got opportunities and and I made the most of those opportunities.
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With each death.
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That was side question.
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So we're doing some research earlier.
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Is it true that you and also your downward Xerox commercials Yeah, my dad was in Xerox commercials, and I need words never in a Xerox.
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My dad, being in a Xerox commercial helped put me through college, So there is a connection there that paid him money.
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And then that money went to Syracuse University.
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My dad went on a streak in the league seventies early eighties, where basically every commercial he went up for he got, like, 15 commercials in a row was insane on.
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And you're gonna serious hot here.
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My dad waas corpulent, which means ah, fat, jumpy.
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And he used that to the best of his abilities.
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He had a cute and very appealing look to him.
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A great smile.
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Terrific facial expressions.
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So he he rode that magic carpet ride as as long as it could go and ended up working for Xerox beyond the commercials but in a personal services capacity.
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Some years, up to 220 days a year traveling the country, four Xerox as an ambassador and it ended up being this incredible chapter of his life.
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I have been on some commercials.
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I did the voice on some commercials Converse, Chunky soup, Gatorade, Pepsi.
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So I have I have been involved in commercials, but not in the role that he was was.
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And I was never on camera, just just a ah voiceover or play by play a role.
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I do love the fact, though, that we went from aspiring broadcasters Common gave the shower to I know I'm not alongside told my friends.
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I was like, Oh, yeah, And the same thing is calling when you play matted and turn off the commentary and you're calling your own game.
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Yeah, you're going.
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You're right.
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Then when I was growing up, it was a bit more primitive.
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But there was a thing called Atari that broke through in the late seventies, early eighties and again, it was not high quality, but it was something.
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And I do remember turning the volume off and calling the game with myself.
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And then there were some other consoles that came out that we're actually much better, better graphics.
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There is a thing called in television, which you can google it.
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At the time we couldn't believe it like that.
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These graphics were pumping up, and then the next step was a thing called calico vision which could actually play Donkey Kong at home.
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I know this is seen insane that that someone would look forward to something like that.
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But I'm telling you for all of us that would spend our quarters at, uh, the local, uh, corner store that happened, Have a video game.
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That was huge.
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So there were sports games in there, and and, um, I'm envisioning just like you did.
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I would just turn off the sound and do my own commentary.
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Or if we would play like three on three basketball in the school yard with some luck, I would do play by play, and then eventually they would tell me they wanted to punch me in the face.
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Yeah, it was getting thoroughly annoying.
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I get it.
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I e can relate to that. Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Same.
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Same here, Young. You told me that.
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All right, So, uh, ice burned down and I felt on ESPN 30 for thirties, like in the bad dog.
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And I recommended it to Josh Rifles. Go watch it.
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Sued.
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And you were at a front roasty to the magic behind.
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Like that dog.
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What she told me about that because I assassinated it was fascinating and certainly worth checking out.
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The 30 for 30.
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I thought they did a good job, so that didn't grow up in the New York area or younger guys like yourself.
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That are just trying toe understand the genesis of sports radio.
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This this was, ah, phenomenon.
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And you're right.
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I was there initially.
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I was the nighttime producer from seven to midnight.
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Then when I started getting some on air shifts, they wanted my nights free so that I could go cover sporting events and they put me on an earlier shift that happened to be the like of the Mad Dog ship.
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So I was a associate producer producer board up, and I did see the magic happen.
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These two guys had incredible chemistry.
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They were perfectly complementing one another and how they get a show.
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It was just the ying and yang of sports radio.
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And Mike was You're a bit more of the professorial tight coming at it from an angle that someone who had jobs behind the scenes and had been researching sports his whole life.
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And Chris was more of the wild card.
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The madman that could say any was known as the Mad Dog, but he could say anything at any moment.
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He could fly off the handle.
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His knowledge was excellent, but is a lure really came from the fact that he sounded like a caller.
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He sounded like every fan out there.
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Both of them did in many ways.
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And I think that's why the show had become so appealing is that it just fell to a New York audience that this could be any to fans sitting on a corner or in a bar or in a restaurant or at a game talking sports.
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And that's where it really resonated with the public.
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So to me, that was incredibly fascinating to be a part of.
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Obviously, I got to know both of them very well and became very close with both of them.
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But then also, as I continued my career and I started working with ****ysts, it gave me a little more insight into out and create Emma three out a pond and how to present that to an audience.
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Every single game they did every single day, five days a week.
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So I look back on that experience.
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It was very valuable and it was definitely a building block for me and understanding the big picture of this business that's screaming.
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I just fascinated with all of the like of the bad stuff.
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It really as I think Tony Kornheiser said of that do***entary.
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Everybody on sports radio.
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Conseco Mike in the Bad Dog for their six cents.
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They really made it into something bigger than it was before.
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Yeah, and what they did.
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They helped create a placard.
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They helped create a playbook off what this could be.
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The two man show to person show became very popular after that because it created debate and in created, sometimes conflict.
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They didn't always agree that it was a good thing for the the show, the fact that they didn't always agree.
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So, yeah, I think for many of these fourth radio stations, they have W F A and radio to thank and also the mike and the Mad Dog show toe.
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Look back on and say that help show everybody the way on what this could ultimately be.
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Yeah, well, that's that's really cool.
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All right, um, so you call tenants from Tennis Channel in basketball and and people And I wonder, what's a typical game day lying for those sports you're very different for Let's Take Basketball is an example 7 30 Normally, the games are so you're talking about night games in the N B.
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A.
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College basketball earlier noon, one to about three, and then it is based on a my traveling.
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Is it a Brooklyn at home game in my home? How do I set up and organize my day when I'm at home and I have to get to Brooklyn, which could be about a one hour ride hour and 10 minutes, depending on what time you leave and what the traffic looks like? Or is it a Rogaine where you're out at a hotel, having dinner with guys that around the crew and members of the crew and then, uh, just locking yourself in your hotel room and doing work often times for a basketball game? I've done so much of the work ahead of time that on game day I'm just trying to finishing touches on what I've done.
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Ah, football.
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You can imagine the entire week is dedicated to this one game, so I do Thursday nights on radio.
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That preparation is a little different than what I would do on television television.
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There's more room for stories and personal background just based on the media.
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The fact that the viewer can see the pictures on radio.
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You're painting the word pictures or you're doing a lot more of a blank canvas and then filling in all the gaps with what you see, not necessarily what you prepared, although there's still preparation when it comes to that.
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A lot of interviews for football before you ever get to the game, you at least under normal cir***stances.
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Prior the pandemic, I would sit down with starting quarterback and with a star offensive player and two defensive players and a head coach, and that would be part of your coverage.
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You would leave those stories in during the game.
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Tennis completely different.
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Me, In my experience, I don't live in that world 12 months a year, 365 days I parachute in, I parachute out, so I try to get as much of the material down as possible.
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But I know full well that they're gonna be surprises along the way at the French Open.
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As an example, which I've done the last 14 years for Tennis channel, they may tell me the night before this is the master of doing, and then the next day, if the session goes quickly, if another match becomes more interesting, they'll just toss us to that match.
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And maybe it's a match that I hadn't prepared for, at least in the same way that I would have.
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So you've got to just be ready for anything.
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And I learned that do in the U.
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S. Open.
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I did that for CBS and pretended Channel where they could just bounce you over toe any court at any time.
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So you have to be prepared for the mystery of it.
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And for me, that could be a little bit off putting because I'm so accustomed to. Here's my game.
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Here's my assignment.
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Prepare for the assignment to your work.
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This one is the unpredictable nature of it.
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So it can throw you out of your comfort zone a little bit.
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Yeah, I know.
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Kind of more in depth with what those a broadcaster, coach and you start on.
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Your meeting is like I always wanted to know about that.
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What would be Yeah.
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So when I got the job at CBS, it was 1998 and I have done one year of play by play for the Jets, 1997.
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So I didn't have a whole lot of established habits because I just hadn't done it that long.
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I had done the Nets on radio for one year and then moved to TV the next year.
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Similar situation.
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But this was different.
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This was a network job, and what I learned was that part of the contract part of the deal that the networks make with league is that you have access.
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So let's take my first ever game.
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Was Miami at Indianapolis, September of 1998? I'm told by the producer.
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Okay, you're gonna fly in on Thursday night.
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We're gonna have a meeting with the Colts at their facility on Friday morning, and then Friday night, we'll have dinner is a group, and Saturday you'll have your day free.
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But about three o'clock, we'll drive over into the Miami Dolphins hotel that they're staying in and will meet with their coach their players.
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So this particular example, which happened to be my first game for CBS, was Peyton Manning's first gain quarterback.
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So the first guy I met with as a CBS broadcaster doing the NFL was eight manning.
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So there's a room set up at the Colts facility.
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We're sitting in the room, are one major table and then shares around the table and open seat Manning comes walking in We stand up, I extend my hand I said, Hey, Peyton, how you doing? He goes, Hey, I am like he knew my name on my whoa Pretty sharp.
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So clearly the PR director.
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I was a gentleman by the name of Craig Kelly, who had been there for many years, told, Babe, manage a you're gonna be meeting with I An Eagle, the play by play man, Mark a the ****yst.
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The producer is Victor Frank, and the director is Suzanne Smith.
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But it was the only four people that work in the room.
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Eight. Manning sits down.
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We start going back and forth a little bit, trying to keep it light.
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Initially, how's it going? Has the transition that you find a place to live all those things.
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Then we start diving into the football side of it.
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And what I learned in the 1st 5 minutes of meeting eight Manning with that, he was a really smart and sharp human being.
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I just knew it within five minutes when we started talking and you realize he's a rookie.
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He has yet to play a game in the NFL yet he knew his offense inside and out.
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He knew every player on the other team.
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He knew my name, so I just I walked away from the experience, incredibly impressed, and that really has been the basis of what you work off of in these meetings.
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From that point on now, most of the guys are in a sharp as Peyton Manning, but you do get very good information.
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Some guys are excited to be there and they want to talk with you.
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Some guys like anything of life or not.
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Some coaches are excellent and they'll give you some inside information.
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Some coaches keep it very brief, and they don't want to get too into the weeds because I want you to have too much information.
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So the 20 now, 22 years I've been at CBS, you name it.
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I've met with them over the course of that time and whoever is played in the NFL and has been a legitimate star.
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Odds are I have spent some time with him in that meeting.
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No cameras, no microphones, just ah ah, pad and a pen and you take notes and then you try to use some of that information on the air to best serve the audience.
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I got a question here.
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So you, or for CBS, CBS typically does a F C names.
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So Tony Romo is obviously a guy that played, I never seen you, so I would assume you didn't call many of his games.
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I want to be called at least one, All right.
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I had two of his games during his career that he played in.
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I had a cowbell a game, just as Dak Prescott had started getting the nod.
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But yet I interviewed Tony twice as a player, so I was gonna say, Let away your time I'm painting.
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I would assume Romo just consider how amazing he's been, is an ****yst.
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Was it the same time being loud this time? Really? Does we talking about Yeah, I think it was a combination of things, guys.
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It's not only knowing what you're talking about, it's having the ability to be likeable while doing it.
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And Tony just had a likability.
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You sat down with him, and within a few minutes you felt a connection, and that's based on him, making you feel comfortable, really, in those situations.
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If you think about it.
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The player in the coach have most of the power.
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If they want to be a good session, they could make that decision there.
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All right, we're gonna have a nice conversation.
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If they wanted to be difficult, they could also make that decision.
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And I've had those as well.
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There have been some guys that just don't want there and, you know, they looked at it as a nuisance and they had their answers very curt.
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And they didn't really answer your questions.
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And before you knew it, seven minutes went by.
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They stood up and they would walk out.
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Tony was one of those guys that you could tell that the wheels were in motion when he was there, that he was ****ysing the situation that he was taking it all in.
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And, you know, look, most quarterbacks get most of the Q B's, understand that there's a responsibility that comes along with being the quarterback, being a leader and also being someone that in that dynamic, you got to make the most of it again.
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There've been a few that were not that interested, but most of them understood what we needed and what we expected from that session.
00:28:45
And just like that, if there's one current player that you've met with that you think will be a great broadcaster Kobe.
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Whoa.
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One current rating.
00:28:57
Excellent question.
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Uh, I would tell you that if Aaron Rodgers wanted to do this, I don't know if he'd be interested in doing if he wanted to do it would be excellent.
00:29:10
He is really smart.
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He's got a great sense of humor.
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Is inside is off the charts.
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He would be excellent.
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I have no idea if this is something that he would want to do, but he would be very good at it.
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One coach that I could tell you that would blow people away if he became a studio ****yst.
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Even if he did the games, I think he would be very good.
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But as a studio ****yst, he probably would be among the best.
00:29:39
Doing it right out of the gate is Mike Tomlin, who she might sorry about that.
00:29:45
You know, Ravens, Steelers.
00:29:47
That's and that's interested in that.
00:29:48
I totally thought that's a big coming out of your house with Bill Belichick.
00:29:51
I wondering about Bill would be good if you want your onions and they would be great.
00:30:00
I just don't think Bill will have any interest in one day pursuing it.
00:30:05
But you want to talk about intelligence.
00:30:08
It's through the roof.
00:30:09
Is his memory of specific plays of history, of NFL historical content and then, obviously, is inside. But guests.
00:30:19
Belichick would be excellent.
00:30:20
Mike Tomlin has a way with words, and he has this knack of making everything sound very cool.
00:30:28
So I just think he would light up the screen if he decided to do it.
00:30:32
Do you see that yet again? All right.
00:30:36
So, uh, all we went through a couple of minutes ago was that you go tennis, you called basketball.
00:30:43
Football.
00:30:44
What would you say is your favorites article? Oh, you can't.
00:30:49
You can't make me pick.
00:30:51
Yeah, I know you guys have siblings like it would be asking me to pick you and your siblings are my two kids.
00:30:59
I can't I can't do it.
00:31:00
I really, truly have viewed in the same way throughout my career.
00:31:05
When I am doing a specific sport, I just put everything I have into that game into that assignment into that sport.
00:31:14
Whether it's TV, whether it's radios.
00:31:16
When I go and do the French Open on in Paris for two weeks, I'm locked it.
00:31:22
Those two weeks.
00:31:24
Everything that's going on in the tennis world matters to me and affects me and, um, completely meshed into it When I'm into the football season.
00:31:36
Trust me, I am in to the football season.
00:31:39
I'm usually juggling two games a week, so that's a lot of preparation, a lot of travel.
00:31:45
It will see how it all plays out with what the country is currently going through and what sports future looks like.
00:31:52
And then basketball.
00:31:53
I've been doing the NBA's since 1994.
00:31:56
I love the N B. A.
00:31:58
You know, I just I've always loved the N B A.
00:32:00
And then when I'm doing college basketball in the N.
00:32:02
C.
00:32:03
A.
00:32:04
A tournament of the new of that since 1998 in that week of the tournament or two weeks if you end up doing the Sweet 16 in the elite eight or a couple of years, I've done the world feed.
00:32:13
So I did the Final Four in the championship game.
00:32:16
It's hard to beat the excitement that that courses through your veins during that stretch.
00:32:24
The fact that you're gonna get upsets, the fact that you're gonna get names that you've never heard before that become household names because of March and schools that emerge Cinderella stories.
00:32:33
So I just know that whatever it is that that I'm doing, I'm all in.
00:32:40
That's how I tryto that's your said.
00:32:44
I have a follow up question.
00:32:46
You can take whatever sporting.
00:32:48
Now it makes sense because using your level of them, But what's your favorite? Gay? Later recalled.
00:32:54
We had no schooling.
00:32:55
Call this one game on a personal level.
00:33:00
There was a 2002 1st around Siri's between the Nets and the Indiana Pacers.
00:33:06
The Nets were a shocking number one seed.
00:33:08
Nobody expected it.
00:33:09
They were terrible the year before that.
00:33:12
Santino here.
00:33:13
Now this was on, uh, this was on the local Fox Sports New York at the time in New York, and I was working with Bill Raftery.
00:33:23
We're doing the Nets games and they went to a decisive Game five.
00:33:27
That was the last year was three out of five in the first round of the playoffs and because the Nets had been such a a doormat in so many ways in the New York scored landscape, nobody ever gave him the time of day.
00:33:45
Nobody cared.
00:33:46
It was very little interest.
00:33:48
And finally, this team chasing kid emerged as Ah, Riel must see TV if they lost the first round series, right? They went to the finals when finals at Euro finals the next year they lost that first round series. Two. Indiana.
00:34:06
It just would have been such a difficult hit for them to take.
00:34:10
Everybody would have dismissed them.
00:34:12
They had to win the Siri's and the fact that Bill Raftery and I were doing the game raft and I have been doing the games for all those years.
00:34:19
When nobody cared, it went to double overtime.
00:34:22
Reggie Miller hits 1/2 court shot to send the came into the 1st T.
00:34:26
Miller dunks the ball at the end of the first overtime.
00:34:29
Send it in to a second overtime and chasing kid just took over in that second OT and will the Nets to a victory on a personal level that might have been the most fun I've ever had doing a game because of the paid off.
00:34:43
The crowd was rocking in the middle lands.
00:34:46
The best schools, like old, have been different than that.
00:34:50
I did that.
00:34:51
Do Butler National Championship game on a world were going.
00:34:55
They were had a chance to win it without having good.
00:34:58
He went off the Ram.
00:35:00
If that shot goes down, I think that's the greatest upset in tournament history.
00:35:05
I think that's the greatest finish in N.
00:35:07
C. A. A tournament history.
00:35:09
And it may have been the greatest finish in sports is end on something like that.
00:35:13
But it didnt.
00:35:14
Duke wins the national championship, and I don't know if you guys ended up watching the last dance.
00:35:19
Hell, yeah, but you know, I did team six of the Utah Jazz Chicago Bulls, eh? NBA Finals.
00:35:28
And that was Jordan's last game and the goal last shot.
00:35:36
Eyes.
00:35:37
He hit it over Brian Russell.
00:35:38
I did that for the world feet as well, and at the time I thought, you know, this might be a historical moment because everybody was talking about the possibility that Jordan may never come back for the Bulls.
00:35:50
Now, looking back on it and watching the last dance like everybody else did it really pounded the point home that that was I was sensational, how he ended it and also what was happening in Salt Lake City.
00:36:05
Inside that arena was known as the Delta Center.
00:36:07
Back then, those fans.
00:36:10
It was as loud and arena I it as I had ever heard in my life just moments before that happened.
00:36:18
And then Jordan smacks the ball out of Malone, hands brings it up, the floor hits the shot and the crowd goes silent.
00:36:27
It's a 180 degree turn and the way that it was set up doing the world feet.
00:36:33
We were not on the court.
00:36:34
Our broadcast location was in the stands, so we were basically amongst the fans.
00:36:39
There were fans in front of either event behind me and the horror and the sheer shock that I experienced from those fans.
00:36:47
They thought they were gonna win the title.
00:36:49
It was only Game six, but Scottie Pippen was still banged up that Jazz fans started already envisioning 1/7 game.
00:36:56
They're gonna win the title.
00:36:57
That cast will be world champions, and then, oh, Children ends it just like that Onley example.
00:37:04
What I don't I was somebody to compare, but I think I would talk about a 1,000,000.
00:37:08
You said that is Advil Ravens.
00:37:10
He's looking older women, all the names and the Taliban.
00:37:12
Name, best actress, wife.
00:37:15
Everything was pre game of that quarter.
00:37:18
Unbelievable.
00:37:19
And by it was horrible.
00:37:23
Exactly.
00:37:25
Yeah, that that was one of the bigger surprise is not that just the Titans won the game.
00:37:31
That happens.
00:37:32
They're always gonna be up. That's in sport.
00:37:34
It's the way they manhandled them in that game and how quickly it shifted early on.
00:37:42
Tannehill's thrown the ball well, I thought, Wow, for real.
00:37:48
They're gonna be ableto hang with the Ravens and I have absolutely Ravens games this year, and I saw just how exceptional more Jackson was.
00:37:57
How that team waas.
00:37:59
I just did not in my in my mind ever consider the possibility that they could get blown out and to suck the energy out of that stadium.
00:38:10
People ask me all the time, what's your favorite NFL venue and Seattle is awesome.
00:38:17
There are other stadiums that you have to put in the pantheon, their top five to meet, and I'm not just saying this because of the Ravens Jersey.
00:38:27
Baltimore does the best job in the NFL of getting the crowd ready, pre the music selection just his perfect throughout their game operations staff.
00:38:42
They understand how all of this works and the crowd is always juiced up.
00:38:48
I love doing games in Baltimore.
00:38:50
That game was a strange exception because the team, unfortunately I just pulled a bit of a no show.
00:38:59
Yeah, so you call that game right? Good.
00:39:05
Now is all of gold of the games safe with charge was like the best tweaking atmosphere it, and we can't go into everyone's Yeah, but book post you and it was so loud in the middle and bless alert for that off.
00:39:19
I mean, imagine right? And what I remember what sticks with me the most when you're doing play by play.
00:39:26
If the crowd is into it, the ability to blend your voice with the crowd that's learned over time figuring out what level you Congar 02 with your voice and then what level the crowd will be.
00:39:42
And if it blends together when someone sitting at home, it can feel like a symphony where it's just perfect.
00:39:50
Pitch the tone when the visiting team has all the big plays like Tennessee did, and Derrick Henry is throwing a Tim Tebow like jump pass for a touchdown, and there's no crowd to balance out your voice.
00:40:07
It's very much a different experience as a play by play announcer.
00:40:13
So I had to figure out a way to maintain the proper level so that Titan fans understood that.
00:40:21
Hey, look, um, I'm into the game.
00:40:25
I'm excited about what's happening.
00:40:26
I'm not favoring any other of the two teams, and that's something that I view as part of my job that you're never, never biased you never rooting for anybody.
00:40:36
All the only thing you're rooting for is a play by play.
00:40:38
Guy is a good game.
00:40:40
That's what you're rooting for for being competitive, to be exciting, to be a last minute finish, because the moment that people remember those are the moments that people have so assigned your voice with an associate you with.
00:40:53
So when the game is lopsided like that, you get fans that reacted always favoring this pay.
00:41:01
Murray's talking too much about that in that situation.
00:41:06
It's a tremendous highlight and I just want to convey the excitement of the highlight, but you have to realize there's no crowd to balance it out, so it doesn't sound quite the same.
00:41:16
That's not just solely for aimed like that.
00:41:20
It's any game you do where the visiting team starts putting together a highlight after highlight after highlight and having a great deal of success.
00:41:30
So that's what I walked away from.
00:41:32
That thinking was the Tennessee Titans has went in there and dismantled the Ravens, and all of those highlights were really exciting.
00:41:41
But if they happen in Tennessee or in Nashville, it would have been another level because the crowd would have would have changed the whole way that you interpreted the highlight.
00:41:52
You like that? That's your probably to do with your fancy thing.
00:41:55
Yeah, and I know a lot of announcers are very curious about how that's gonna look and how it's gonna sound and how it's gonna feel.
00:42:04
And of course, I'm in that category.
00:42:07
I don't have all the answers.
00:42:08
I do have experience called a bunch of games off of monitors from a remote location.
00:42:15
I did the 2013 n B A Finals on the world feet.
00:42:19
Miami eat San Antonio Spurs Ray Allen, corner three to tie the game, the Heat end up, winning Game six winning games.
00:42:27
And all of that was done from a studio in Secaucus, New Jersey I've done tennis events have done golf event.
00:42:33
I've done other basketball events from a studio, so that's one side of the equation.
00:42:38
Those games had fans so they could pump that into my headset so I could at least feel the energy of the crowd.
00:42:47
The closest thing that I would have to what will now describing with no fans.
00:42:52
I did the Nets in the mid nineties and they were not drawing a lot of heads.
00:42:58
Theo, I was doing games and guys, I'm not exaggerating.
00:43:02
I could literally hear the conversations from the fans behind me.
00:43:07
The only action, like, Wow, everything they were saying.
00:43:10
So I called the play.
00:43:12
We goto a time out, and then there was a couple sitting behind me.
00:43:15
I remember this and they were talking about their vacation plans, so I turned around and talk about it.
00:43:20
But you know, guys, uh, I think the Bahamas is a good idea.
00:43:26
You are that I was like, Yeah, I heard everything.
00:43:30
It's a mailing, very different.
00:43:32
Very area.
00:43:36
Sure you weren't hearing about the Bahamas at the training tray landscape.
00:43:39
Now very loud, that one.
00:43:41
I heard all those.
00:43:42
And let me tell you in Baltimore, this is another reason why it's a great set up.
00:43:47
But then the down pride.
00:43:49
If the Ravens aren't winning games the way our booth is situated, you're right with the fans.
00:43:56
You can reach out and touch a fan or a fan can reach out and touch you.
00:44:00
So I'll give you three stories about doing games at M and T Bank Stadium one.
00:44:09
I'm doing a game with numerous eyes on a Monday night football game, and the guy in front of us is getting drunk hammered, and I see it developing is a and the guys yelling boomers There was like Fulmer further and I'm telling Boomer in our heads and I go, Hey, don't engage with them.
00:44:29
Don't even look.
00:44:31
Don't even look at because you're just going courage.
00:44:33
He's like, Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right.
00:44:35
So we're calling the game.
00:44:36
We're calling the game now.
00:44:37
It's the fourth quarter this guy's had had to have had 12 years, and now he turns around.
00:44:44
He's looking right it in the fourth quarter during time.
00:44:46
Out is like a I'm trying not to look out of UK.
00:44:50
He holds up his phone, he goes, Would you charge my phone, man? Yeah, like, yeah, I'll charge your phone.
00:44:58
Crinkles phone.
00:44:59
I put it in the charger and Buhler looks at me.
00:45:01
He's like, I thought you said Don't engage.
00:45:03
Uh, I don't want this guy going home with No with no bars and no battery.
00:45:10
So my charges from breaking story.
00:45:13
The Ravens were playing the Brown and was always Bill Dawson has a kick to tie the game to sending over and then the kick hits the crossbar and goes straight up.
00:45:32
Right.
00:45:33
And no. One.
00:45:34
Sure if it's good if it's not good and people really waas the referee and he's not sure So a guy turns around a raven fan about five rows away from me.
00:45:48
He looks right at me for whatever reason, and he locks in on me.
00:45:52
They had long hair.
00:45:53
He looked like he was a Viking and he points to me and he goes like government or no good.
00:45:59
I thought it was no good.
00:46:01
That was my personal belief and I went like, no good.
00:46:07
And so he goes like that, then about it.
00:46:09
Took them 10 minutes to figure this out.
00:46:12
They call it good, and the guy turns back to me and again locks eyes hungry and he points at me.
00:46:19
And he whispered the words.
00:46:21
I mean whispers, But I could read Is his mouth goes, I'm going to kill you.
00:46:26
I don't Yep.
00:46:32
I e I didn't make the call.
00:46:35
What? So now over time happens, the Browns beat the Ravens.
00:46:41
Yeah, and this guy never watched the game.
00:46:45
He just creating me the entire way literally had bring security up to get me out of the stadium to make sure this guy was.
00:46:53
I've never seen that guy get.
00:46:55
That was the 2nd 1 the 3rd 1 in Baltimore.
00:46:58
When instant replay first started, everybody knew that there was a replay booth in the stadiums.
00:47:08
Nobody really knew where they were, and not most people didn't care.
00:47:12
For whatever reason, Ravens fans in that little section some of them not all of them thought that we were the replay booth.
00:47:20
So every crime that someone through the red flag any time that a play would be a challenge.
00:47:27
They turned around.
00:47:29
Yeah, okay, I go.
00:47:32
So I point to my CBS places like I'm not the re plan and talking like, Oh, it happened once.
00:47:41
It would happen every time it finally got to the point where we had to, like, put up a little section.
00:47:48
So to block us between fans because they literally would, like, stand up on their chairs to look into say, like, is it what's going on at interference? Yeah, that's how close we are in Baltimore.
00:48:05
I love going.
00:48:06
Let's get yeah.
00:48:09
Uh, right.
00:48:11
All right.
00:48:13
So you mentioned earlier about the Ray Allen trying you.
00:48:15
I didn't know that you were actually calling that the studio.
00:48:17
This is interesting, but we picked out two different Uh, please, that we know that you called.
00:48:25
And the front.
00:48:26
What is the ray allergy shots? So what was that like called the Ray Allen? Yes.
00:48:32
So what? I remember about that experience, Waas.
00:48:37
I had just gotten back from Paris.
00:48:39
I had done the French Open.
00:48:40
And the way that your body reacts when you cross that many time zones is that you don't instantly.
00:48:49
It's a just back to the time zone.
00:48:52
So the first few days I'm in Paris, you know, falling asleep at weird hours.
00:48:58
Sometimes it's early.
00:48:59
Sometimes it's laid.
00:49:00
Sometimes I get really tired in the middle of the day, and then when you fly back, your body clock is out of whack.
00:49:06
So I flew back, and then within a day or two, I was bowling game one of that Siri's and we were doing it out of a studio and it's very sterile.
00:49:17
It's just me.
00:49:18
I was working with June Spin Arkle, who I do Nets games.
00:49:20
Where do I do CBS college basketball with? So I didn't have to worry about that part of it.
00:49:26
Our partnerships very strong, and we could finish each other's sentences, so that part was taken care of.
00:49:32
But the part that I didn't really know waas energy level and audio, trying to gauge how that was gonna work.
00:49:41
They were sending audio into our headset.
00:49:44
Sometimes it was really loud, like, to the point where I could barely hear myself.
00:49:48
That's not good.
00:49:49
So I had tried to adjust it with the guy that was working, uh, at the site into caucus.
00:49:56
By the time getting you six rolled around.
00:49:59
I was very comfortable with it.
00:50:00
I have found a rhythm and I felt good about what we were doing.
00:50:05
Game one, it was still more than passable. I don't know.
00:50:08
Most people would even realize or know I have any people even today that had no idea that I was in the studio and I never mentioned it because nobody ever asked blood.
00:50:17
Uh, I thought for what the assignment was and what we needed to do, that we matched the energy level required for the event.
00:50:29
And all in all, we did about as good a job as you couldn't do.
00:50:33
Covering a game off of a monitor with very little back and forth and interaction from the site.
00:50:42
Way didn't get to do any interviews with anything I got.
00:50:46
I got from the newspaper calling someone that was working, event that I knew off the Internet, whatever it might be.
00:50:53
Then the rest was left up to you.
00:50:58
That's very interesting, because when I was much younger, I was like, Why don't why do these blind? The blood testers are all of the way to the studios when they could just stay in their office.
00:51:10
But now that I have really taken a deeper dive, it's much more than just right.
00:51:15
But you're about to a microphone.
00:51:17
It is to do the job well and to be exceptional, added, It requires more than just saying someone's name and saying the score and time remaining.
00:51:29
It's trying to find nuances that keep the broadcast entertaining and keep it informative, and being at the site allows you to see a lot more.
00:51:42
So you're inside.
00:51:43
You're supposed to be the eyes and ears for the audience, and you can't quite be that if you're just calling it off a screen and seeing the same exact angle that viewers see.
00:51:55
So while in theory you think no big deal, just call it from a studio and there's not gonna be much drop off.
00:52:04
There is little things fall through the cracks and just having a better feel for the event in the way that I view the job is you're a conduit between what's happening at the site and the people watching at home or in a bar or in a restaurant or at a friend's house, whatever it might be.
00:52:25
And if you don't have all the information.
00:52:28
How can you possibly do your job as well as is expected of you? So this is gonna be an adjustment for a lot of people.
00:52:36
Initially, the way the N B A is set up, I'll tell you that every local broadcast will be from their local market.
00:52:44
If you're doing the Milwaukee Bucks, then you're doing it from Milwaukee.
00:52:50
If ESPN and ABC get a chance to send a crew, I think to do that.
00:52:56
Turner Similar situation.
00:52:58
But I don't think everybody is going down to Orlando.
00:53:03
They first of all, I don't want that many people there.
00:53:05
They're trying to keep it tight so that they could monitor everybody and keep everybody safe.
00:53:10
And then, second, I think it's something that they're trying to see if for the future.
00:53:18
And if this continues for a long time, is it feasible to call these games from a studio and still to a quality job? Okay, Yeah.
00:53:30
So I actually, I looked down. I saw something.
00:53:34
My phone that marks Diners tweeted this out.
00:53:36
Former neck Jason Kidd, The Brooklyn Nets.
00:53:39
Another glance.
00:53:40
The New York Knicks have just been granted permission from the Lakers or Jason Peat interview for that job.
00:53:46
I and we used to coach the Nets.
00:53:49
Do you think he would do a good job over there here.
00:53:52
But I think he wants to be a head coach.
00:53:54
There's no doubt about it.
00:53:56
My sense of it.
00:53:58
My opinion is that he would want to walk into a good situation, meaning not the next meeting.
00:54:05
A team has enough talent to compete.
00:54:08
Right now.
00:54:09
You look, the next is definitely.
00:54:11
It's definitely a different feel than prior Leon Rose has taken over as team president.
00:54:17
They're trying to do things the right way.
00:54:19
They're trying to view it from the perspective of, uh, this is not a quick fix, right chasing at this stage of his life.
00:54:31
I know just wants to be a head coach, might have a choice.
00:54:35
He could come up in the Net possibilities.
00:54:38
He could come up for Philadelphia.
00:54:40
Sixers decide to make a change.
00:54:42
Jason did a very good job with the Nets and then went on to Milwaukee was successful.
00:54:47
For whatever reason, that thing fell apart.
00:54:49
There might have been a little bit of a power struggle there.
00:54:52
As to the Philip philosophy Jason taking this assistant coaching job in L.
00:54:57
A show that he was very serious about staying in the occupation and being a head coach one day.
00:55:03
So I think he's he's gonna have another chance.
00:55:08
The Knicks.
00:55:09
Tom Thibodeau is someone that's come up.
00:55:11
Kenny Atkinson, the former Net coach, has come up in conversation the next seem to have cast a wider net, and they might be looking upto 12 candidates to see who's the best fit.
00:55:26
Yes, all right.
00:55:27
Now, this is the question we were gonna ask you, um, was kind your thoughts on the nets? Uh, it seems like this season and obviously this year have been really weird with the way it's now.
00:55:38
Orlando, anything can happen.
00:55:41
But the way it looks like is this at least this year might not meeting here for the Nets, but they definitely with Kyrie and Katie next year are going the right direction.
00:55:50
What do you think about the Nets for maybe this year in the future? Yeah, The reality is they had always circled 2020 21 because they knew that's when Kevin Durant would be healthy and the pairing of Durant and Kyrie Irving, two guys that wanted to play with one another, trying to create the right mix and computation around them.
00:56:11
That's been shown Marx's goal not just this year but the last 3.
00:56:16
5 4 years trying to create a culture that people wanted to be a part of, and what they've done is they change the way they're viewed around the NBA's.
00:56:25
That's not easy to do.
00:56:27
That's very difficult.
00:56:28
How did they do that a few ways? One.
00:56:33
The The fact of the matter is, people now around the league talk about the Nets is being a destination.
00:56:40
That was never the case.
00:56:41
They looked at Brooklyn as untapped potential, and if things went well there, it could really mushroom into something positive.
00:56:51
Second, they built a lot of trust with players with agents.
00:56:56
That was a big key.
00:56:57
I think that was a smart play by Sean Marks.
00:57:01
He looked at the dynamic and relationship with agents as integral in changing the way that they're persona is and to try to build an identity.
00:57:13
The agents now look the Nets as a team that's willing to do business the right way.
00:57:20
So what does that mean it means they treat your players right.
00:57:24
It means they treat the players families right as well.
00:57:29
And don't take that lightly.
00:57:30
That becomes a big deal for players.
00:57:32
Women feel comfortable that their families air welcome inside the facility, at the arena or on a team flight at the hotel, that it's a very different view from management's point of view.
00:57:48
And that's what they did.
00:57:49
And they develop talent.
00:57:51
I mean, that might be the most important part of it.
00:57:53
The fact that Djohar, a Spencer Dinwiddie caress liver Jared Allen all have gotten better the last three years.
00:58:02
That speaks volumes.
00:58:04
People look at crowd around the league and say, Oh, wait a second So that's where I can go and I could maximize my potential.
00:58:10
I can get better, improve, polish my skills and then get a bigger contract down the road.
00:58:17
So I think all of those ingredients played a role.
00:58:19
And obviously Katie and Kyrie gave them credibility.
00:58:24
Now people around the league say, Oh, wait a second for the nature, the dancer for real here, they're trying to win the whole thing.
00:58:32
They're not just talking about what they're gonna do. One day.
00:58:35
It's been pretty impressive to see.
00:58:37
And for someone that's now been doing the games for 26 years, uh, it was It was nice to see a plan put into action and to see them actually following through and not cut corners.
00:58:51
Exactly.
00:58:52
What you just said is why I was so surprised they fired Kenny.
00:58:55
I paid sings.
00:58:56
It felt like they were going in the right direction.
00:58:57
Yeah, I did. They fire.
00:58:59
I still don't know the answer.
00:59:02
I was very surprised as well.
00:59:03
My understanding of it is that Kenny was hearing some rumblings that he may not be in their future, So there was no plan to fire in during the season.
00:59:17
But once you heard those rumblings, he went to management and said, Hey, look, I wanna have a meeting.
00:59:21
I want to sit down And in that meeting may have said, like, What's the deal and my in for next year? Because I'm doing all this work, putting all this time in a blood sweat and tears in, and I want to know I am I going to get a chance to coach these guys when we start competing at the highest level, and the answer to that may have been.
00:59:42
I can't guarantee that.
00:59:44
And that might have been enough for Kenny to say, Hey, look, I don't want to guarantee that I understand.
00:59:51
But if you're not confident in what I'm doing and if I'm not the right guy, then let's do this now because I don't give me an opportunity to still be available for jobs around the n B A.
01:00:03
And no hard feelings will move on.
01:00:07
So my my sense is that's probably closer to the reality of what happened that the Nets didn't really plan on it.
01:00:16
But some conversations, some uncomfortable conversations took place, and maybe some decisions were made based on those conversations.
01:00:27
All right, that that one, I guess that could be It's just It was very surprising.
01:00:34
Make I agree.
01:00:36
Um, Sam? Uh huh.
01:00:42
There should have we mentioned Ray Allen shot Aziz, where the call, the other one was the mining American.
01:00:48
I'll tell you that.
01:00:49
It's but right over there where I was watching the Ravens Chiefs game and I'm watching that game and I have never seen before or since where in Italy huddle, they cut away to you will not believe what just happened, and they showed the play and, weirdly enough, the next play for the cheese without fourth of 19 from the homes.
01:01:15
That who's not that.
01:01:18
But what was the life for the mind miracle? Just calling that, yeah, the constant reminder that you should put into your brain is a play by play announcer is never assume a game is over.
01:01:36
So in that particular case, and this is just some background information, I think I had a tight flight or Dan found Santa tight Flight one of US appetite flight.
01:01:45
I just knew we had to get out of there pretty quickly once the game ended.
01:01:50
So prior to that play, I had taken my notes off the counter and put them in my bag just to save 11 seconds.
01:01:59
It was a silly thing to do to begin with and put them in my bag.
01:02:04
That's where my mentality was.
01:02:06
I had seen this over and over again in the NFL last ditch.
01:02:10
Try either a hail mary or lateral lateral, lateral lateral lateral seen it never, ever seems to work.
01:02:18
Usually it ends up in the hands of a big offensive linemen and then funny things may happen in the ball sports free.
01:02:26
And that's the end of the scramble in the game.
01:02:28
It's this one.
01:02:31
Bill Belichick made the decision to send Rob Gronkowski into the game, and it struck me when they saw him trotting onto the field That okay, they must be anticipating a Hail Mary, because why else would grant being there just basically, like a basketball move box out your man and knocked the ball down? Well, they didn't do that.
01:02:56
They decided.
01:02:58
Lateral right, lateral lateral.
01:03:00
And as it's happening, it strikes me.
01:03:06
That Kenyan drink could loop around open space, and if you listen back to the call, it's building.
01:03:14
At first it sounds like a play by play announcer that's waiting to call the end of the game.
01:03:20
And then the realization, and it's different levels at that point.
01:03:24
And then Gronkowski.
01:03:26
I see him enter the picture and realize he's not gonna get there.
01:03:30
So to call that play to be on top of it, bring the proper emotion happened in Miami's or the fans that were left.
01:03:38
Most of them have gone.
01:03:40
The fair that were left were stupefied, and it turned out be too being one of the most incredible place that I've ever seen.
01:03:48
An integral history.
01:03:49
I believe I did not.
01:03:52
I did not deal with my phone until I got to the airport.
01:03:55
We were in the car.
01:03:56
We were still very charged up about it talking about it.
01:04:01
And I got to the airport and I had 285 texts and that this one certainly waas the the latter will heard around the country.
01:04:15
Yeah, I think the way you said it too, was it didn't have the angle, because tricks you had nothing to do that wrong was in the game.
01:04:24
It was he had no chance to get there.
01:04:27
No.
01:04:28
And that was a tight end.
01:04:32
Maybe if it's a safety, if it's a linebacker and they're used to it, there's muscle memory in reacting in the moment, right? He has no muscle memory in regards to having to bring down a running back in that situation.
01:04:49
So, uh, it was bizarre.
01:04:52
It was an incredible ending.
01:04:55
And as we know, it didn't matter that the Patriots ended up winning the Super Bowl. Anyway, that here.
01:05:02
So go figure.
01:05:06
Yeah, All right.
01:05:08
so I want to know.
01:05:09
I'm really curious as to what? Your friend, What goes into What's your breath, like before? Uh, digging in for, you know, for each sport, your cocaine use a bit of a break out.
01:05:22
Yeah.
01:05:23
For football, it's It's certainly the most time consuming of the bunch.
01:05:26
Just because you have 53 players on a team and the one game meeting so much and so much effort is put into the have nots is for a broadcast and point.
01:05:38
From the team standpoint, it was 1/16 of their season.
01:05:42
It takes on so much meaning.
01:05:44
So you're the basics on your board.
01:05:47
Will have a spotting chart that I created by hand its name, its uniformed number.
01:05:53
It's height, weight, age, how many years it didn't leave, what college they went to, how they were acquired, what year they were drafted, what round they were drafted in, and then background information that they've been the Pro Bowl.
01:06:07
How many times look, teams that they played for prior.
01:06:10
This is all information that needs to be there, and it has to be grabbed at a moment's notice.
01:06:15
You don't want to search through your board.
01:06:17
You don't wanna have to leave through pages.
01:06:20
You want to be able to look down and know what you need when you need it.
01:06:25
So a lot of that information, because I still write it out, is pounded into your head as you're writing it.
01:06:31
But it is an expansive process, and I'll get into scouting reports on players background on what kind of player they are.
01:06:40
And what are the additives that best describe that.
01:06:44
And then any other personal stories that might factor in all of that will be on one board of football chart, and it will be an offense and then the approaching team's defense and you flip it.
01:06:57
And it's the opposing team's offense and then the team's defense that you were talking about.
01:07:02
Beyond that, I do another large Manila folder with just notes on each team, and I'm talking about 35 notes for each team than individual notes for each team, a section on the coaches, how many years they done it, who stabs.
01:07:18
They might have been on prior what coaches have served under them that it become head coaches.
01:07:25
You have to get into the nitty gritty here because you just never know.
01:07:30
If you have a blowout, you're gonna need information.
01:07:32
If you have a great game, I might use 10 or 15% of that.
01:07:39
In addition to that, we talked very early about the interviews that that we do and those interviews I will take and then I'll move them into, ah, format.
01:07:50
That's a little more digestible when we're on the air, all type out name and then a bullet point of what they had to say, and in a way that I can tell that story very quickly and I'll do that for each player.
01:08:04
So with Baltimore, we met with more Jackson.
01:08:08
We met with marking grow.
01:08:11
We met with John Harbaugh so on and so forth, and you'll have a little section for each player or coach that he met with with stories beyond it. Basketball.
01:08:23
I have a board that that I created starting point guard to guard small, forward, powerful word center on one side, their respective backups on the other and then fill in the blanks with the other players and their same thing.
01:08:36
Height, weight, age, hometown.
01:08:40
How many years have they been in the league? What's todo What year were they drafted? How were they acquired? What's their contract situation? What other teams do they play for? And then get into more particulars about those players than on game day? I'll take an index card and all right down on each side of that index card, the latest information on the team notes on those teams.
01:09:06
Specific things I can use pregame things I can use during the game, things that I want to go back to.
01:09:13
If the game gets away from us and it's a 20 point blowout, that's the key.
01:09:18
The key is you gotta have enough information to keep the broadcast moving, even if the play on the field or on the court is not all that any throwing but right? Very, yeah.
01:09:34
So the closing question that we asked, we asked to yourself, No, we asked to all of our broadcasters, and we love to hear what they have to say.
01:09:42
What advice would you get to an aspiring SportsCastr? Well, what you're dooming is the first piece of advice you got to go do it if you have a chance.
01:09:55
The way things are set up now in our world you've got a camera right there.
01:10:01
Each of you have a camera, you have your own mini studio and you can work at this on a daily basis.
01:10:08
You could record yourself.
01:10:10
You could look back at it.
01:10:11
You can critique your own work.
01:10:13
You can polish your skills.
01:10:15
So that's the first part of it.
01:10:17
You have to actually go out and do it.
01:10:19
I'm not saying that you've got to do it every single day from the age of 10 years old, all the way through until you go to college.
01:10:26
But if you can get practice, it does help Reps help the second part, and this is a really important part.
01:10:36
You do have to change the way that you view and listen to sports.
01:10:41
If you're truly interested in doing this one day, you got to start paying attention to other things in the broadcast.
01:10:48
You could still be a fan.
01:10:49
That's it.
01:10:50
The backbone of all of this, the passion that it requires to do this and the knowledge From a fan standpoint.
01:10:58
There are a lot of people that know their stuff and have passion.
01:11:02
But now how do you distinguish yourself well by being very well spoken and articulate by knowing your stuff by speaking with confidence and by being able to perform in the moment.
01:11:15
Watching others do it is a great way to learn.
01:11:20
So when you watch a broadcast now, really watch with a critical eye or listen with a critical ear when you watch SportsCenter When you listen to your favorite talk show, you gotta do it now with the idea that one day you want to do this one day.
01:11:36
This is a job that you would like the half in a career that you'd like to pursue.
01:11:41
So jot down notes if need be.
01:11:44
What you like about a broadcaster, what you don't like just so when you're put in that position, you can refer to those and remember what it is you'd like to be.
01:11:55
When you get your opportunity to do it, that's that's really important.
01:12:00
And then hurt.
01:12:01
I would say this anything on that young that is interested in trying to improve themselves future but how you treat people and that's still an important part.
01:12:16
This is a communications business.
01:12:18
You have to be able to communicate.
01:12:20
You have to be able to look people in the eye and connect with them, and you have to find common ground.
01:12:25
And maybe now, more than ever, considering what's going on in our country, you just have to be kind.
01:12:32
You have to be a good person.
01:12:34
There's no reason not to be that way.
01:12:37
And the people that come up with excuses and continue Teoh complain about all the reasons they've been wronged, how they got screwed over by this person, and it's not productive.
01:12:49
So if you take all those things that we talked about going out and doing it listening and consuming and watching and then really being magnanimous in your life, there's a pretty good chance you'll find a role in this position.
01:13:08
But you do have toe figure out how to connect with people.
01:13:12
And you do have to understand the big picture here that now more than ever, there are more people that want to do this than ever before.
01:13:20
It is a fun job.
01:13:22
It's a really fun job, but very competitive as well.
01:13:28
Thank you.
01:13:31
My pleasure, guys.
01:13:33
Design that we've had one interview of in this one go longer than 40 minutes.
01:13:39
We're now over our is very fun to. Yeah.
01:13:45
No, it is.
01:13:46
Josh.
01:13:47
Michael. Luke really appreciated.
01:13:49
I know we've been talking about this for a few weeks since my son Noah was on, so I'm glad we finally got the chance to do it.
01:13:56
I hope you guys have a tremendous summer.
01:13:58
I know things were weird and things were different, but still try to be productive and see if you can do something of value that you could look back on and say, Okay, I made the most of that time.
01:14:10
And just prepare yourself for for what's to come.
01:14:14
You've got right futures in front of us.
01:14:16
So take advantage of all these opportunities that come your way.
01:14:19
And I think that is.
01:14:23
There we go.
01:14:25
Ladies and gentlemen, that is it for our exclusive interview with anyone.
01:14:31
Seriously? Best.
01:14:33
And we've ever done.
01:14:34
No question about that, were we think and I am first.
01:14:43
Now those That's what in the middle of our interview, we got breaking news.
01:14:51
All right, well, let me pull up the right.
01:14:54
So it's first journal with the ever will be pressure released this key belt on off the presses today, and it also talks about what they are, what they were planning to do in the playoffs this year and what it's still possible.
01:15:08
So here is the fresh release it says.
01:15:11
Major League Baseball issued the following statement tonight.
01:15:14
Today, the Major League Baseball Players Association informed us that they have rejected the agreement framework developed by Commissioner Manfred and Toni Clarke.
01:15:24
Needless to say, we're disappointed by this development.
01:15:27
The framework provided an opportunity for MLB and his players to work together to confront the difficulties and challenges presented by the pandemic.
01:15:35
It also gave other fans the chance to see an exciting new postseason format.
01:15:41
And it offered players significant benefits, including the Universal D H for two years, a guarantee 25 million in playoff pulls in 2020.
01:15:50
33 million and forgiven salary advances.
01:15:53
That would increase the take home pay of 61% of meter really puller overall for players of 104% of pro rated salary.
01:16:07
Over the last two days, MLB agreed to remove expanded postseason in 2020 in order to address player concerns.
01:16:15
In view of this rejection, the MLB clubs have unanimously voted to proceed with the 2020 seats of Under terms of the March 26th Agreement.
01:16:23
The provision listed above Will that be operative Ah, in order to produce a schedule with a specific number of games were that we're asking that the players Association provide us by five, but provided to us by 5 p.m.
01:16:40
Eastern time tomorrow with two pieces of information.
01:16:44
The first is whether players will be able to report to camp with him seven days by July 1st.
01:16:50
The second is whether Players Association will agree on the operating Daniel which contains the health of safety protocols necessary to give us the best opportunity t conduct and complete our regular season and postseason.
01:17:04
So there you have it.
01:17:06
Okay, So the big thing, though that I'm taken away from this, is that nothing is still official yet Definitely.
01:17:23
I say this without question.
01:17:28
This is the best piece of views and by far the the most promising and honestly, in my opinion, the first time.
01:17:36
Or I can even consider the fact that maybe will have baseball this year because that server trying you fed in the last two weeks No, this is the first time that I no No, that's the first time.
01:17:49
That's the third time you said it on the Emily made a program, but I still have first time ever.
01:17:55
You thought there was a chance.
01:17:56
Then you said one thing when they were they would be accounted.
01:17:59
You said This is the first on it.
01:18:00
There's a chanting There's a second Is it the summer time for setting the last meat? I set all eyes, but this is the first time that I actually you never mind. You are right.
01:18:13
But no, I'm I see your point.
01:18:17
Oh, it's one of the first time since it was still If you have, tell me yes or no, I'm still leaning towards No, until I finally see agreement until I see a full fledged.
01:18:33
This is what we are doing from the MLB.
01:18:36
That'll be P A.
01:18:38
I will still be leaning more towards the back.
01:18:42
And I would still be leaning more towards no baseball four down.
01:18:48
But again, as I said for the first time, Or I guess third time, I guess maybe this is a little promising, but I definitely still have my doubts.
01:19:02
Are you There he is, but just happy.
01:19:07
Nothing all right? Yes.
01:19:14
So you think? Yes.
01:19:22
Alison.
01:19:25
It's trying to fight back a month, by the way. Happy birthday.
01:19:28
Michael's mom.
01:19:30
Oh, thank you.
01:19:31
Thank you.
01:19:35
Uh, yeah, that's actually a good thing. Oh, yeah, sure.
01:19:37
That interview, Because every time to celebrate.
01:19:42
Yeah.
01:19:43
So this is you know, I think this is very good that they have, like, such a detailed proposals are the only ones your head.
01:19:53
This one of the first times you've actually, like had hoped for.
01:19:55
And I'll be season SOS.
01:19:57
Yeah.
01:19:59
Um, now, whether or not I think it's going to be accepted, it doesn't look like it.
01:20:06
All that said, the owners have agreed.
01:20:09
It doesn't look like it.
01:20:10
And I'll tell you this today, the Emily B A Oh, are they really said they wouldn't offer anything in the Sunday happened after? Just done.
01:20:20
Apparently, that's not like being used anywhere because this, but, uh, yeah, I'm still no certain.
01:20:30
Adeline, look, you with us here? Yeah, I'm not certain I need the letter.
01:20:37
Sounds somewhat promising, but I just I'm not going to commit to anything until there's 100% guarantee this is what they're gonna be here and the players are the exactly Blake.
01:20:51
There was some sort of slide show, I think by m o.
01:20:54
B on Fox.
01:20:55
It was like Mike Trout Aaron Judge.
01:20:57
Oh, yeah.
01:20:58
Generally, it was all there.
01:21:00
Tell us whether where the and also the exact same fig tell us Web and where to show up and we will show up.
01:21:09
And that's exactly what the what they need to do are these.
01:21:14
Well, it's not that easy.
01:21:15
Okay? Really, That's not what the situation is.
01:21:19
And you know, look, I'm in the same boat as you I really wanted and will be season, and I know some players don't, But how about you put my trap narrower Judge in charge of the MLB PS.
01:21:30
They could talk some sense into those guys, right? I mean, I think the MLB is going to talk to the chief of the M o b p a and say, Hey, let's get some more players actually on here.
01:21:41
When woman Egyptians died that like I'm talking maybe 23 years from now, they may be able to do so correctly.
01:21:50
Hopefully, you and Mike Trout it's It's safe to say my traps the face of baseball.
01:21:56
Oh, yes, yeah, No.
01:21:59
Right. But at least put him on there.
01:22:03
Mike Trent wants to play.
01:22:04
He's like a little boring Dreams of the air of a man bs just like steams.
01:22:10
Like what? 100 figure he is in a battle that exactly exactly right? It's in the leg.
01:22:17
If LeBron James says he's gonna play N b A players gonna play right.
01:22:22
My trust does not really happen.
01:22:25
Never throw money trout in the MLB p A and docks incentive to those, uh, people.
01:22:32
And I have said this before.
01:22:34
Rob Manfred has to deal with Southern ignorant ingredient people within the MLB p.
01:22:40
A.
01:22:41
And it's very hard.
01:22:42
For a minute, he had taught of pressure on him.
01:22:45
Everyone's aiding on Rob Man for not doing anything.
01:22:48
You try getting an agreement with the Emily P. A.
01:22:52
All right? It's not easy.
01:22:55
Yeah. Yep.
01:22:56
Well, you might be the same thing here as much as it upsets me to say, because I have not seen a single thing wrong with anybody.
01:23:03
Proposals? As much as it pains me to say, I do not believe this will get past because there's gonna be that one thing that's going to keep the MLB P A.
01:23:14
That's gonna keep you will be from a B a from sciences.
01:23:17
But then there's that one you know, a tiny detail with showers getting paid in the arm.
01:23:22
But but what is? It's very hard to get by them.
01:23:27
And if you put leaders and Mike Trout again, being a face of baseball is being the leader of baseball.
01:23:36
LeBron James is the leader of the n b A Alec players wise Tom Braiding is leader of the NFL.
01:23:42
Everyone's gonna listen to Tom Brady, right? Yeah, so much for if there really is one, I don't know.
01:23:47
But like I'm saying, Tom Brady's like me the year of like, biggest I don't think that name thing, though, Right? Ellis Iwas he waas Now it's nothing.
01:24:00
I don't think there is a guy.
01:24:01
Period is not much.
01:24:02
I'm not saying it, but I think you're right, right? Yeah, My point is, if you put my tractor Liam obp A.
01:24:10
There's a good chance, the only vehicle what might listen and they should do that.
01:24:14
Whoever's in charge of putting it there, it's probably not rob man, because we have been for obviously once.
01:24:19
Same thing we all want for the Emily P. A to agree.
01:24:24
And it doesn't say Like many people on the M v p a r actually agree, so I might actually put some more people in the loop B A take root.
01:24:33
You kind of got him saying way over here.
01:24:37
Like Luke. Let's move on.
01:24:39
Yeah, All right.
01:24:40
So a part of that agreement was in there about the teach and this.
01:24:46
Things that have gone out there and ever be on Fox.
01:24:50
Asks what? Do you like it when you what from? Well, never mind.
01:24:57
Times I go, I go, I'm just going to, uh which do you prefer? Designated hitter or pictures hitting? I have a very I definitely would answer for this.
01:25:10
Why can't the pictures hit? Why not? I have no problem with I don't understand.
01:25:19
And this is coming from, of course, a almost non existent baseball fan.
01:25:24
So I am sure there is a reason for it.
01:25:27
But personally, I don't see the issue with pictures hitting.
01:25:33
Well, John is like in the a l.
01:25:35
A of mediations and writing on that, but I'm saying if it was like the question is, why is pictures of the ages personally, I would say, Just have the pictures head.
01:25:44
I get the point.
01:25:48
Alright, and here's you know, here's my take.
01:25:52
I am not against the Picture City.
01:25:56
There is a reason they are called the designated hitter a lot of times, and this is not in all cases, but a lot of times.
01:26:05
One of the best batters on your team is it.
01:26:08
Use it designated hitter because one of your best players would be in that role that he usually plays in.
01:26:15
Or he's just a designated hitter like Nelson Cruz, for example.
01:26:20
He's a lot of bombs.
01:26:21
He did the h you know, Right? Mark Szabo played age for the Orioles.
01:26:27
A job again.
01:26:29
I don't have any problem with pictures.
01:26:31
I don't have any problem with pictures.
01:26:33
Ah, bang.
01:26:34
But And again, I'm not like discrediting the towns of pictures batting because look alike.
01:26:40
Steam straw Vernonia, like three home runs in a game.
01:26:44
Crazy but like my point is Josh and again.
01:26:49
No, I'm not taking a the weapon pictures, but who was the better hitter? Whose job is it to hit the ball and whose job is it to throw the ball right again? I am not taking any single life in the pictures, Manning. I'm not.
01:27:02
Why? The D ages have a job.
01:27:05
Any pictures have a job and the job of the pictures off the hit The job of the agents is a designated hitter.
01:27:12
They are designated to hit.
01:27:14
Which is why, if you're gonna keep one in the lineup, I se de it because I love the pictures.
01:27:20
Not playing the pictures, pitching.
01:27:22
I'm gonna say, Deke, we go.
01:27:26
I think you're saying I just Joan fully.
01:27:35
I don't fully understand exactly why the deity to think.
01:27:40
And why can't those guys that I understand they're dropping Tip.
01:27:43
But why can't they just play out? Feel too, does that or whatever in play.
01:27:48
Because I wasn't institute in the first place.
01:27:51
Because back then, the power hitters were also fake playing the field.
01:27:55
Why? You think you are anywhere? They still deal, Aaron.
01:27:59
Judge is an outfielder.
01:28:00
Anybody else? Right? Right.
01:28:03
And I see your point.
01:28:04
But sometimes it just Yes, I I don't know the baseball history as well as you know. I see you.
01:28:13
I I know nothing.
01:28:15
I would I know being Booth was born in Baltimore and yeah, good shot, Michael.
01:28:23
Uh, historian, Uh, What? I think I Yeah, uh, So here's much Josh, I totally agree with you.
01:28:38
If baseball started, if that d h.
01:28:42
Is were never created, but because I totally think the pictures could hit Babe Ruth was a picture.
01:28:47
One point in this career, he played for the Orioles as a pitcher, Uh, and then now regarded as one of the best singers of all time may be the best hitter of all time.
01:28:57
But I asked Jerry Crasnick this when I was at play McCleave broadcasting kids with Michael was there, too.
01:29:02
And about this subject.
01:29:04
And he said that they will never There will never be universal pitches pitchers hitting.
01:29:09
And it's for one reason and one reasonably jobs you create.
01:29:13
It eliminates so many jobs if they get rid of that entire position.
01:29:17
Because But my question is, why was the position created in the first place? Well, yeah, I totally agree with you about that.
01:29:26
Yeah, they were trying to create jobs at that point.
01:29:28
That could be, ah, reasonable explanation, but yeah, I I'm totally with you.
01:29:36
I think the pictures air completely able to hit.
01:29:39
I mean, they've hit home runs with what? All along with Dharma? Yeah, when pictures are terrible examples.
01:29:46
Hey, but like CDs, Rosberg, for example.
01:29:51
He has ready and and Stephen Strasbourg hit like three and a game.
01:29:56
That's but you know, but I am not taking anything away from the talent of the picture sitting.
01:30:09
They're there in the war.
01:30:11
They are there any any a batting warmups, sometimes hitting or playing catch, but occasionally there that they're they're heading your hitting right there with the practices I would assume in the batting cages.
01:30:26
You know, they're they're doing a lot, and I am not taking anything away from how well or not, well, there the pictures or in bed.
01:30:37
But if you couldn't break down their jobs or that word picture, it's just his Jammeh's pitch but designated hitter.
01:30:49
His job is to hit, so but who would say it would be the designated hitter? Because the picture is staying there, doesn't get in.
01:31:00
The picture is not going anywhere you're trying removed.
01:31:04
Doesn't matter.
01:31:05
Hitter from the wind up.
01:31:07
I would assume this, you know.
01:31:09
Is it still it What? What? Who said that? What job Growth in the guy.
01:31:17
You start right for ESPN.
01:31:19
And now we work for Liam O B.
01:31:21
Right? So he you know, and he makes a excellent point.
01:31:26
The pictures have a job already, and once again, don't give her up. They could hit.
01:31:33
But this is another job that the MLB has added an equal money for for players.
01:31:38
And then you have four people so d h won't ever leave.
01:31:42
And I don't believe that it should.
01:31:46
Good, I got all right.
01:31:51
Let's go to a question from actually, let's go to, uh, former Raider M Steelers wide receiver Martavis Bryant has officially applied for reinstatement per room.
01:32:04
Carpenter Uh, Bryant has been out of league since 2018 at his best season came in 2015 when he put up 765 yards and six touchdowns in Pittsburgh.
01:32:18
Well, this he's not back. Good.
01:32:21
He's okay. Receiver.
01:32:22
Okay.
01:32:23
No, he was really good case that he's not a store now.
01:32:27
He had star potential.
01:32:29
He was an excellent receiver.
01:32:30
He could have done really good job and then off the field issues for him.
01:32:35
Yeah, but he was not my own.
01:32:38
Let insane.
01:32:39
I'm not sure about this.
01:32:41
Yeah, I called it the Shame Show earlier.
01:32:43
Ah, powered our and asked him about.
01:32:46
That's about now that I've thought about.
01:32:48
I completely agree with Sam.
01:32:50
It's not really whether he gets reinstated.
01:32:52
I beat.
01:32:53
Obviously, that has to come first, but it's really whether a Tibor society but not everyone will.
01:32:59
And I must say, if he gets re instated, what would what Ah would side of it, he said.
01:33:06
Like the tooth, they kind of are in the mix for a B.
01:33:08
And, yeah, I completely agree with him.
01:33:10
I don't think I think the baby is obviously much, much better than Marty was brought.
01:33:14
Uh, but yet I think what I've seen a lot on on social Media lie especially and a couple players the 40 Niners are starting to.
01:33:25
Really, the players are starting to voice and some fancy new voice that they want Dez Bryant on their teeth.
01:33:31
I don't want it.
01:33:32
I I wouldn't want if I were them.
01:33:34
I don't think it would make any sense.
01:33:35
I think will be a hard move, one that I think that could potentially be added to stand with, just go.
01:33:41
So I wanted to mention it because I think it's definitely possible.
01:33:45
I wanna bring people's attention for those who have not seen it.
01:33:47
But also, I think if you don't want to know, does Bryant route, Even though I don't I person wouldn't want either of them.
01:33:53
But of the two I would rather have market was Bryant Martavis.
01:33:57
Bryant was a great player and he had great potential and you would've been a superstar.
01:34:01
And in a Pro Bowler hat, Antonio Brown up in there had been had off the field issues captain on the field.
01:34:08
That's Brian a great player.
01:34:10
No is No, he hasn't been six years, seven years.
01:34:16
Who knows? ***, ***, ***.
01:34:21
He's been non starting caliber for four.
01:34:25
He hasn't played.
01:34:26
You don't know that.
01:34:27
That's exactly what you know because he's hurt for four years.
01:34:33
No using were NFL you haven't seen quite.
01:34:36
He wasn't in the other for this trash season, so that's one here.
01:34:39
He does not deserve to be on a team desperate, and there is no reason why anybody should sign this bright Martavis Bryant.
01:34:45
I would rather over Dez Bryant, but I wasn't sorry.
01:34:47
All right, so I think he has a time potential.
01:34:50
He's really good.
01:34:51
And I think it really if that part of his life is behind him with all he was battling off the field, then, you know, as a brave INS fan, I think he actually could be fitter scheme.
01:35:06
Really? Well, I think it go.
01:35:08
He won out CDs he was taking That was what It waas Whatever.
01:35:12
Waas No, I think it was not performance enhancing drugs, but yeah, this doesn't matter. Doesn't matter.
01:35:17
And whatever he was dealing with off the field but mine, isn't it it he did not have an addiction.
01:35:22
The reason why NFL rule agree they're not.
01:35:24
It was what? The rule waas.
01:35:26
So now that that we just looking NFL and he has no addiction, Josh, And that's not my point.
01:35:37
Okay, My point is that I do believe you be really good in the NFL.
01:35:40
I think would be a great addition for many came about science.
01:35:43
And And if I here's a guy that I actually might look for as a Ravens fan, I think he puts our scheme, and I think you do it really Well, yes, I think he goes on the Ravens.
01:35:55
He could be a early in this make bold but based off hammered potential.
01:36:00
He has, like, one of those Comeback player of the year people.
01:36:03
Absolutely no, I Which the baby is a guy who gets 20.
01:36:07
I could see it wouldn't come on over there. A touchdown.
01:36:11
Smart.
01:36:13
Like a sector hours.
01:36:15
Yeah.
01:36:17
No, I could give you a reward.
01:36:18
That Roberts worst version of Seth Roberts.
01:36:22
Josh.
01:36:23
For all we know, Martavis Bryant has been putting in the work.
01:36:25
Then I'm not downing it.
01:36:27
I just Hollywood proud has been putting in training every day.
01:36:30
And you, uh what, you're you're doubting his talents? Yes.
01:36:35
Super counters I am doing it.
01:36:37
Sounds That's exactly I'm doing.
01:36:38
You don't think he was good? I don't think he was as good as you were saying.
01:36:43
What are you talking about? I think one of the best receiver fell on his team younger here for one year.
01:36:51
He was great because he had the best and if receiver honest, even for that one year from Amazon, Antonio Brown didn't play the full year.
01:36:59
No, he did.
01:37:00
He was when he was what you'd Iwas and he was juju.
01:37:05
Worries you drafted him in market was Brian.
01:37:08
I couldn't find a role.
01:37:10
Yes, and then And Martavis Bryant.
01:37:13
Ben when Summer out spec with the Raiders.
01:37:18
Like, went to the Raiders.
01:37:19
Got it from.
01:37:20
But yet my Davis Brian has potential. He always had.
01:37:24
He always will.
01:37:27
I don't see it.
01:37:28
I don't think I definitely looks one receiver.
01:37:31
I'll see, uh, more seasons.
01:37:34
He's nothing but a number one receiver was 2015 a great year.
01:37:37
2016 suspension.
01:37:39
27th grade is what? He's 28.
01:37:43
Yeah, all right.
01:37:46
He could be maybe a number three guy.
01:37:47
I guess you could start.
01:37:48
Maybe on depending on team.
01:37:50
But you're hiding love too much, I think.
01:37:52
Just maybe in number three, you probably said that Darren Waller to I Yeah, but Darren Waller also, first of all, I'm not always right, Michael.
01:38:03
Darren lines the same thing.
01:38:06
The only Waller was actually amazing last year.
01:38:08
And yeah, you proved me a lot of people wrong, but I'm not seeing mark table.
01:38:12
Right.
01:38:13
First of all, it was Brian, as I said before, did not have an addiction.
01:38:17
Martavis Bryant to use energy self that was bigger than football.
01:38:22
He smoked weed.
01:38:23
The NFL didn't allow it, and now he still probably does smoke we.
01:38:27
But now it's legal.
01:38:28
So doesn't it? Makes no difference.
01:38:29
That's really nothing has changed because he's never been.
01:38:34
He has never been suspended for a non lead based.
01:38:37
Okay, Josh.
01:38:38
But that might And I'm talking about still on the field.
01:38:44
He was a stud.
01:38:46
That's what I'm saying on the field, I don't think you are.
01:38:49
That's where we disagree.
01:38:51
I the solid maybe starting caliber receiver, maybe.
01:38:56
All right, Yeah, let's go to not really any debate or anything but an update from former New York Giants quarterback Eli Manning or retiring former Q B e Y medics number 10 during the 2020 season.
01:39:15
Is that happened for Adam Schefter? Manning will be the third old Miss Player to have their jersey retired, joining his father, Archie Manning at 18 and Chucky bullets at 38.
01:39:28
All right, we'll have a debate whether he knows it or not.
01:39:32
I didn't deserve underworld pick.
01:39:35
Of course he does.
01:39:37
Yeah, right.
01:39:38
Yeah, you've always got it.
01:39:40
Okay, let's look.
01:39:41
Come on.
01:39:43
Was one of the top if you have thought so.
01:39:45
No, not this.
01:39:47
When Alan I know, but no.
01:39:51
All right, let's go to.
01:39:54
But what to O K C ah mahn trip Ertz is that he would be open to joining the thunder here.
01:40:01
Orlando If they signed him, I wouldn't.
01:40:05
He sucks.
01:40:06
Amman Shumpert.
01:40:09
He's the second best.
01:40:10
Probably out there now he's 90. ***.
01:40:13
He's a J R. Smith. Obviously.
01:40:16
Number one.
01:40:17
Who's number two? There is a bunch of players.
01:40:20
Iman Shumpert, Camel.
01:40:21
Does he now like 80 numb skin? But he's his old boy.
01:40:26
Um, he's he was not that good.
01:40:28
To begin with, I would not have elections 29.
01:40:31
But no, I would never signed the guy.
01:40:33
Absolutely not.
01:40:35
No, no, he would be.
01:40:38
No, no, just no.
01:40:42
All right, let's go.
01:40:43
The topic that Josh is a fairly very, very happy to go to.
01:40:47
Uh, have your arreaza is bound up now in there.
01:40:51
But we'll Trevor, a reason.
01:40:54
Opted out of participation in the Orlando restart, committing instead of what visitation put his son her wounds.
01:41:06
I really thought to this And Cristoforetti Strache.
01:41:09
Did you like going thoughts on this? I don't have any thoughts.
01:41:13
This is not what I was talking about.
01:41:15
Ah, uh, So what happened? I'm sorry.
01:41:20
I kind of zone out.
01:41:23
I believe he's a will be with the boy.
01:41:26
Her for the rest of this is Oh, yes.
01:41:30
Wow, He's all right.
01:41:33
Now here's a matter when using it doesn't matter.
01:41:35
This is better.
01:41:36
Herbie's a bad hands is it may be a player that's not going to see Uh, could you know other people could do that? Of course, the people that this is not the reason why is not because of recycling.
01:41:50
Who's the other guy? There's another guy.
01:41:51
Jobs.
01:41:52
Birdsong isn't for the Wizard. She's not going.
01:41:54
Ah, that that's socks.
01:41:55
Well, that that runs.
01:41:58
So yeah, this is not like the first NBC that hurts their chances. A line.
01:42:02
I was kind of relieved. Visits.
01:42:04
You see who again with the finals? What? No, I think I felt that if they could have impossible native Laos, we're leaving for them to get there, you know? Yeah, I guess.
01:42:19
Let's go to ah, somebody who will get signed if they'll be going to the Kings with the NBA's resumes per ship, it's Corey Brewer.
01:42:29
Yeah, give him coming.
01:42:30
Move on.
01:42:31
I think I can do to stop it, but I think we've got a couple more for, like a rundown.
01:42:38
Okay, that the MBA has hired two time NBA champ The leak rose at veteran nb a front office.
01:42:45
Remember? David Boon to positions as vice president of basketball operations? Never heard of him.
01:42:53
I got the showing interest in Patriots star guard Joe's tooty.
01:43:00
Per I saw that on Instagram Albert Breer.
01:43:04
Yeah.
01:43:05
Uh, you can ask her book to treat for two if their guards that our in house struggled, he was just lost.
01:43:13
Start guard Brandon Brooks to a tour to kill it.
01:43:18
Yep. I mean, this is what I suggested.
01:43:20
One.
01:43:21
Brooks went down.
01:43:22
Clearly, I said, making called Joji New England for Joe.
01:43:24
Tony, this is what they're doing.
01:43:25
I think it's a great move because the Eagles do not have any guards in house.
01:43:29
I think it is anything close to starting caliber, so Yeah, absolutely.
01:43:32
So that's just before.
01:43:33
So the only reason why don't have thoughts on this The only reason the only reason why I don't have thought this is because I talked about this in depth bowel.
01:43:45
Well, one of the books were down a week ago or so.
01:43:48
So All right, so is your thing with Kim doing that.
01:43:52
He remains the betting favorite for the Patriots.
01:43:55
No, it is.
01:43:56
That is an opinion that I have.
01:43:58
I believe I would rather have Cam Newton be my starting quarterback next season over Philip Rivers.
01:44:05
This is a personal opinion that I have, as you can see now, there on the banner, Michael Michael just added in his own quote of the end, Yes.
01:44:18
According to me, Josh is insane because Josh, there is a right.
01:44:25
What the heck to sell stuff.
01:44:28
You can't make any point before explaining what just happened right there.
01:44:32
I like Teoh lead back on my chair and actually, yeah.
01:44:38
Oh, so I'm still doing a very surprised I can't.
01:44:45
That is that SL and Phil, Britain's top 10 Clerical Hollow will is no way.
01:44:55
All right, you might have to have the horse story like I think he is electric.
01:44:59
I think he is.
01:45:02
Josh, can you agree that you put him to low? No, I think I might even let you talk.
01:45:08
Well, I think he was the worst right.
01:45:12
He was the war starting quarterback in the entire NFL last season.
01:45:19
Without question, he was worse.
01:45:22
Canute was also hurt.
01:45:23
I would I would not want Kim because my start, but I would rather of Cam.
01:45:28
Then Philip Rivers, swollen Rivers is old, he's washed up.
01:45:31
He was God awful last season, and I don't think that this says anything, does anything for the Colts.
01:45:39
I would have rather whatever.
01:45:41
What? Something in an injury prone player he addressed.
01:45:45
Lost Andrew.
01:45:46
Look how high you get a guy that's pretty much Andrew Look, and I would see anything like Andrew luck.
01:45:51
He gets hurt a lot.
01:45:53
Well, why did this have a guy who has won two years of the tank and and what came second in picks last season? First, well, feel like forever things against her? But it would have been bent.
01:46:05
I told you last year.
01:46:07
I heard you should've benched him for Tyronn Taylor.
01:46:10
Cold Murder.
01:46:11
So is going to do an excellent job with the Colts because and as any quarterback would especially quarterback of his caliber in his talent, Eddie, a quarterback, would with that supporting cast, which is probably the best supporting cast that I have.
01:46:33
You would thrive so much more in that system.
01:46:40
You don't think with Dr Warren Frank.
01:46:42
Reich system in Indianapolis, as you just say, a great offensive line, a grass delete.
01:46:47
Philip Rivers has the best point. Can the NFL.
01:46:52
But remember Mahomes? Philip Rivers? Probably best offense of lying.
01:46:56
The NFL.
01:46:57
Yeah, but that's that's the best.
01:46:58
The number one thing with supporting cast Yeah, that's not receiving corps is okay at best, he has jacket.
01:47:04
I feel saying God is great back.
01:47:08
No, no.
01:47:09
And he's one of the better backfields in the NFL.
01:47:12
I just said, Yes, he is the best ally in the NFL.
01:47:17
Oh, you like the lumber? Doesn't have to worry.
01:47:19
Beds.
01:47:20
Yes, three.
01:47:21
He has three.
01:47:22
Confused.
01:47:23
Really? Well, right again, It's a good tea.
01:47:25
It's a great team.
01:47:26
My issue is the quarterback. Visioning iPhone.
01:47:28
Rivers is not good enough anymore to do anything.
01:47:31
Why he walked here all get here years.
01:47:39
Two years ago, he was fine last.
01:47:42
There's falling off a cliff, and there's what Rivers did last year.
01:47:46
He was really, really, really bad.
01:47:52
I mean, he was, I'm telling you, he was a he did not look like a quarterback that I would want.
01:47:57
Period.
01:47:59
Cam Newton is a guy that yes, we have not seen play at full health in a while, and that is obviously a red flag.
01:48:07
But Frank Reich system a great offensive line the last time we did see 1/12 which is also the same time we saw Philip Rivers, who has been a full of whole time playing a high level same time.
01:48:24
Okay, right.
01:48:25
So where he's going Day emergency here say that the team that almost beat one of the better teams they soon or a while and what almost one of vision against them.
01:48:41
He almost beat the Chiefs.
01:48:43
They almost one west years.
01:48:46
Yes, they did.
01:48:49
Hey, you know, just like a pulling drop off Fall off.
01:48:53
Didn't like, fall off a cliff.
01:48:54
I mean a lot for bridges at that age where, yes, you can be dio Josh is contrary there.
01:49:00
The time bridge is not a privilege, not as much washed up.
01:49:06
No, because it's different from my work.
01:49:10
Full of reversed Drew Brees and Philip Rivers, Drew Brees has been the better player, their entire careers, so that's not even fair.
01:49:19
You have Tom Brady and Drew Brees air here.
01:49:21
Philip Rivers, for his whole career has been around here.
01:49:23
Compared those guys compared to those guys you're tryingto along the same competition goes to have a tear knowing he was never he was never right.
01:49:34
Reasons level.
01:49:36
What's true? Brady embraces best quarterbacks in the NFL.
01:49:40
So, like there are the two best.
01:49:43
But they are both very, very good thing.
01:49:48
Then they were to this right? Rivers Waas nine or 10? No.
01:49:54
Are you kidding me? Are better than Aaron Rodgers? Better than Peyton Manning? You know, one of the riders? Yes.
01:50:02
Well, you had Cam Newton was at his peak valued Andrew Luck, who was just coming into his own.
01:50:06
You had help me out here, Luke.
01:50:07
You had Riverhead.
01:50:09
Rock Burger was better.
01:50:10
Eli Manning threw libido, drew up.
01:50:15
I said Angela Russell Wilson Drew lock.
01:50:21
We are we talking about this past season? No.
01:50:24
Were saying in there. Primes.
01:50:25
Oh, it deprives.
01:50:27
No filter is better than Angela, but and And Philip Rivers right now was the ninth best.
01:50:36
You know, he's right now. He is.
01:50:38
I'm telling you, I put him to I think I said maybe I'm gonna say now I did put him to I and I think I put him too low.
01:50:45
I put him.
01:50:46
Where did I put him when we look exactly? Airport 24.
01:50:49
I heard on 24.
01:50:50
Let me look.
01:50:51
See the guys I had behind him. I'll tell you, if I would change it.
01:50:53
I had behind my Travis Key Staffer James Tutino.
01:50:57
Kinnaman, I think.
01:51:00
Goodbye, Herbert.
01:51:01
Derek, our borough Kyler Lockie.
01:51:03
I have them. Oh, higher. Yeah.
01:51:05
Um, yeah, I think that's the right spot for him.
01:51:09
I think it's he's just He is not a good quarterback anymore.
01:51:15
Cam Newton. Yes.
01:51:16
The last time we've seen him at full health wasn't gets amount of time ago.
01:51:19
But even like the last time we saw camp fully healthy was much, much better than last time.
01:51:28
All right, what's the last thing you said? The very last thing last time we said can be unhealthy was what? The beginning of 2018 season, where he was putting up M V P caliber numbers and all right, so once again, I'm gonna go back to this.
01:51:43
Philip Rivers almost beat the one of the best.
01:51:47
I'm not talking of the teams performing Allah, one of the best performing players on a team ever.
01:51:55
I think it's fair to say, was passion bounds in 2018 out of that school? It's not.
01:52:01
He almost beat him after the A C witnessed.
01:52:04
I'm not disagreeing with, you know, I'm very and very beaten Aaron.
01:52:09
And then he went into another really good team, another up and coming team with another rising star, and no one could figure out the slippery and shaky Lamar Jackson went to M and T Bank in the playoffs with that fan base with that Poile fan base.
01:52:28
They've been lost at home in a very long time in the plant. That's untrue.
01:52:32
That isn't true right now, but it's just not a good argument.
01:52:36
Every I am pointing is my buying.
01:52:38
Pointed is that he wanted game and he went and 70 Bank Stadium and one that you beat the chiefs of again.
01:52:47
But are you gonna ignore the fact that the last time we saw came beautifully healthy? We weren't about teams here candy and was six and two can it from sound? Kidman was six and two in healthy he got injured in the game.
01:52:59
He was six and two at full health.
01:53:02
Then, when he got injured is what he started playing poorly but a full health.
01:53:05
He was six and two, and not only in the become position in the top of the everyday conversation.
01:53:14
So you want about teams? Okay, lets on my team.
01:53:17
The Panthers were incredibly good before Cam got hurt, even though he played through it.
01:53:21
Cam was hurt for the rest of that season when they started that collapsed and for help six into in the NFC South with the Saints in his division.
01:53:31
He was competing with them for that division, and the Saints were pretty good that year, right? I would rather have Cam Newton and Philip Rivers has my starting quarterback in 2020.
01:53:45
See? It's That's right.
01:53:48
Okay, but all right, let's go to Ah, quick addition of score center with so, uh, things from NASCAR and a couple of scores from soccer.
01:53:58
So let's start off with Syria. A.
01:54:00
It was you, Aventis vs Bologna.
01:54:03
It was a to no win for the event Is Balad played less A, which was a four worldwide for Moorad.
01:54:10
It was a one rubs row between four Oriente Ed Bruske Yah! And then in the Premier League, it was Manchester City versus Burghley.
01:54:20
And it was a five nil win for Manchester City.
01:54:22
And I'm sorry, but they're, uh you go.
01:54:27
There you go now.
01:54:31
All right.
01:54:32
That it was too Draws in the league a first struck with the Guardians versus Granada and Nil Nil.
01:54:38
And that Villa Riel vs Sevilla.
01:54:42
It was a 22 draw.
01:54:43
There it lead to it was his second league, Mr between Exeter and Choke and Colchester 31 would for Exeter Northampton be sheltered.
01:54:55
Have three nothing in the second leg.
01:54:58
So it's Exeter City at Northampton.
01:55:01
Um, advancing in the second leg lead to and then finally unmasked color.
01:55:06
It was riot.
01:55:07
They blame me in number one.
01:55:11
Ricky sign House Junior in two a Barilla It three that he had would at four Edward Jones in fifth Ah, at the NASCAR Cup series at Talladega Speedway.
01:55:26
That's it for score center catches back tomorrow with more scores.
01:55:31
All right, all right.
01:55:33
I got thought to the minute and City Burnley game because that's the first game the Premier League were like it was kind of more of Ah, quiet return.
01:55:43
It was either one.
01:55:44
Nothing or 00 at halftime for most games.
01:55:48
03 Nothing at the half this game if Burnley would have beaten Man City or tied.
01:55:55
I believe that Liverpool wins at Crystal Palace.
01:55:57
Liverpool was the premier Li.
01:55:59
Will her primarily man city prove we still have some left? And don't get me wrong.
01:56:04
Liverpool's gonna probably, uh, killed, killed a pregnant, but they're still anything like not wanted forever.
01:56:14
By the way, Liverpool, what is it like Liverpool at Tina's? Just not wanted forever.
01:56:19
That's like finally really, really good.
01:56:21
They have never won a Premier League title, right? All right, Um but right.
01:56:28
Remember, please, that this is the first glimpse of, like, back action back hope we're gonna get more scoring.
01:56:39
The game's I called so far it was three.
01:56:41
Nothing, man City.
01:56:42
That was like it was so like a boring game.
01:56:45
Them there was like a penalty.
01:56:47
It wasn't like, really phone call.
01:56:48
It was 00 and then I believe it was what it And then it was 11 three game cycle.
01:56:54
And I'm gonna tell you this right now, the 1100 game are much more entertaining.
01:56:58
Three nothing and stuff.
01:57:01
Side point.
01:57:02
What it is we're not actually.
01:57:03
I've been getting into, like, the big all right.
01:57:08
Now we have And don't Don't put Thea, I don't Don't put the ticker up.
01:57:15
I won't.
01:57:19
What? Michael taking you way have a big, big, big anything in exactly one week before that.
01:57:30
This is the ass when they're all, uh, making his way for the interview recorded anything so sometimes we were saying, Oh, you know, go the and I got this interview driver looked like I find, like us.
01:57:41
And in return, I got a couple interesting this interview, you guys, the viewers got for us.
01:57:49
We want a competition, vice.
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That SportsCastr ran in the month of May.
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That said, Whoever gets the most viewers, you know, under specific hashtag gets a meeting and to do it gets new show with one of the greatest sports broadcasters of all time.
01:58:09
Bob Costas and you guys helped us get to that point.
01:58:13
And we have Bob costs.
01:58:15
No, not pm Eastern time on June 26 Bob Costas of NBC Sports and everything I love it when you call the Olympics called.
01:58:24
You know, we're asking you for anything he did that used.
01:58:37
But still, he's one of the greatest broadcasters.
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01:58:43
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01:58:45
Eastern time, five classes joins next.
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01:58:52
Yeah, Yeah, we just got the green light today, so I think Seriously, Okay.
01:59:01
I don't speaking for World Michael moved here.
01:59:04
We all genuinely thank you guys so much for this.
01:59:10
We got him, God, hostas.
01:59:13
And what we're gonna do to show our appreciation for that is to let some of you guys choose what we ask a couple questions.
01:59:24
That's not a target.
01:59:25
But goto our twitter at the next underscored network it or instagram at the next stop, sports or text you'd requested for Bob Costas here would be pulled using you.
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01:59:45
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01:59:49
Put on your story, but on Twitter, rest of hash tag.
01:59:52
Bob Costas on the next.
01:59:54
Yeah, yeah, yes.
01:59:55
So what I'm gonna do is every single day, I'm gonna have put up with my on the instagram story, but are we're gonna have on the instrument story like questions were constantly every single day leading up to then, And I just, you know, we'll see all the answers, but well, I'm asking me, trying to interview we're gonna pick and choose a couple questions that we're gonna ask him.
02:00:19
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02:00:22
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02:00:23
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02:00:24
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02:00:28
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02:00:33
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Yep. Michael just reacted to that.
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He had no idea that last part was there.
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We'll get to badness.
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We'll get to that level.
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Question is, we'll get questions.
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Say we'll get to it.
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Letters were lithe next, so I got to it.
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But we get No way.
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Josh Berman.
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Michael Mercy Here. Lou Brown.
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Where? I got it. Yep.
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Luke Brown will be joining us.
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You, but strap in, because for the next hour, you got all right.
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We got a little out of them.
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We will be showing you guys our interview with CBS Sports broadcaster and the voice of the Brooklyn Nets.
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Yes, the voice of the Brooklyn Nets.
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I in Eagle.
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All right.
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So our biggest interview yet our best interview yet and our longest interview yet and essentially interview week here on the next.
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We'll hear from that a little bit later on.
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But first again, a special announcement in the end.
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So make sure you stay there for that.
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Go to the at the end.
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We have special announcement, so you gotta be there for that.
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We'll also we're not even done when this interview's over.
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It mean score center.
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I'm not Dallas birth town tremor reserve.
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They will both not be going to Orlando about this thing that maybe I believe me.
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I don't I think I can't do it.
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I think we should, because you're So is this a 35? It was she to score center out on.
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That's fine.
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We'll wait. Well, what I want to get. You Sure? Yeah.
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All right.
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Do we have some other stuff? Um, room.
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What else happened today? Dad officially signed his head.
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You talk about a little yesterday? It's true. Oh, Jamal.
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Am's sad that he's trying.
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Yeah, but that's the biggest shocker ever.
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Not so, Yeah, I saw me. I saw him.
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So, you know, like there's a guy walks up like the store.
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There's like a cat in there that I'll get you out.
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I'll get you Gotta promise. Yes.
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So I saw me.
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And today Lester who who's a Busby, was like Jerry Jones ran out to Jamal Adams and somebody I said, Your man.
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I see a drafted kitchen that perfectly that let's show one hour long.
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Let's just put it on right now.
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Let's go, let's go.
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All right, here we go.
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Ladies and gentlemen, this is our exclusive interview with the voice of the Brooklyn Nets.
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I am Eagle.
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Take the better.
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I will do that for a second.
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And Han, there we go.
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All right, We're gonna ship.
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All right.
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Enjoy our exclusive interview.
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All right, Now joining us.
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We have NFL on CBS, and answer is look as well as college basketball on CBS announcer NBN Canty an answer and the voice of the Brooklyn ISS on the yes network.
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Creative Some No.
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On a couple weeks ago. Now we have I an eagle.
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Thank you so much for gonorrhea.
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Oh, it told me at such a good time with you guys, so I took the plunge.
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It's great to see it.
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It's you, too. Thank you. Yeah.
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Um, so you're umbc ahead and I have a big back to the coming to where you are right now, today going to Syracuse and, you know, doing great.
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They're winning the above cost this award for best forecaster.
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I want no, like your whole journey.
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How you got where you are now.
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Well, how much time do we have? You know those guys? Yeah.
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I had an interest in this at a very young age.
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I was probably eight years old, and I told my parents that this is what I wanted to do, and both told me then that's what you'll do.
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They were really encouraging.
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This is 1977.
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This was certainly not considered a popular vocation at that point, but I knew that I had an interest in sports.
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I knew that I had a little bit of the gift of Gabai had a performance gene in there.
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My parents were both entertainers.
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My dad was a comedian and actor, a musician.
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My mom was a singer and an actress, so I just thought this would be a great way to make a living.
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But at eight years old in the seventies, there was really not much that you could do about that.
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Other than calling fictitious games on your bed, using baseball cards or recreating an event in your shower, where there were often very good acoustics of the sound.
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Very good, very clean afterwards.
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But ultimately that was the extent of what I was doing.
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It wasn't until I got to Syracuse that I got serious about it.
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I work for multiple radio stations.
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I interned for Mike Tirico, who was working at the CBS affiliate Ah, locally and Syracuse.
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I ended up working a lot, and I immersed myself in it.
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Got an internship at W.
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F.
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A and radio in New York between my junior and senior year of college and ended up going back to F.
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And when I graduated in a behind the scenes role, but knowing full well, I wanted to be on the air one day and just did everything in my power to improve myself, to take it all in through osmosis.
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And I almost looked at the F a a N job as graduate school in many ways an extension of what I was doing at Syracuse.
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And then along the way I called a lot of breaks on a lot of people that believed in me that trusted me.
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And I got opportunities and and I made the most of those opportunities.
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With each death.
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That was side question.
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So we're doing some research earlier.
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Is it true that you and also your downward Xerox commercials Yeah, my dad was in Xerox commercials, and I need words never in a Xerox.
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My dad, being in a Xerox commercial helped put me through college, So there is a connection there that paid him money.
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And then that money went to Syracuse University.
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My dad went on a streak in the league seventies early eighties, where basically every commercial he went up for he got, like, 15 commercials in a row was insane on.
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And you're gonna serious hot here.
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My dad waas corpulent, which means ah, fat, jumpy.
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And he used that to the best of his abilities.
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He had a cute and very appealing look to him.
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A great smile.
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Terrific facial expressions.
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So he he rode that magic carpet ride as as long as it could go and ended up working for Xerox beyond the commercials but in a personal services capacity.
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Some years, up to 220 days a year traveling the country, four Xerox as an ambassador and it ended up being this incredible chapter of his life.
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I have been on some commercials.
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I did the voice on some commercials Converse, Chunky soup, Gatorade, Pepsi.
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So I have I have been involved in commercials, but not in the role that he was was.
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And I was never on camera, just just a ah voiceover or play by play a role.
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I do love the fact, though, that we went from aspiring broadcasters Common gave the shower to I know I'm not alongside told my friends.
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I was like, Oh, yeah, And the same thing is calling when you play matted and turn off the commentary and you're calling your own game.
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Yeah, you're going.
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You're right.
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Then when I was growing up, it was a bit more primitive.
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But there was a thing called Atari that broke through in the late seventies, early eighties and again, it was not high quality, but it was something.
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And I do remember turning the volume off and calling the game with myself.
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And then there were some other consoles that came out that we're actually much better, better graphics.
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There is a thing called in television, which you can google it.
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At the time we couldn't believe it like that.
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These graphics were pumping up, and then the next step was a thing called calico vision which could actually play Donkey Kong at home.
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I know this is seen insane that that someone would look forward to something like that.
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But I'm telling you for all of us that would spend our quarters at, uh, the local, uh, corner store that happened, Have a video game.
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That was huge.
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So there were sports games in there, and and, um, I'm envisioning just like you did.
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I would just turn off the sound and do my own commentary.
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Or if we would play like three on three basketball in the school yard with some luck, I would do play by play, and then eventually they would tell me they wanted to punch me in the face.
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Yeah, it was getting thoroughly annoying.
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I get it.
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I e can relate to that. Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Same.
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Same here, Young. You told me that.
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All right, So, uh, ice burned down and I felt on ESPN 30 for thirties, like in the bad dog.
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And I recommended it to Josh Rifles. Go watch it.
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Sued.
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And you were at a front roasty to the magic behind.
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Like that dog.
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What she told me about that because I assassinated it was fascinating and certainly worth checking out.
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The 30 for 30.
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I thought they did a good job, so that didn't grow up in the New York area or younger guys like yourself.
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That are just trying toe understand the genesis of sports radio.
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This this was, ah, phenomenon.
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And you're right.
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I was there initially.
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I was the nighttime producer from seven to midnight.
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Then when I started getting some on air shifts, they wanted my nights free so that I could go cover sporting events and they put me on an earlier shift that happened to be the like of the Mad Dog ship.
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So I was a associate producer producer board up, and I did see the magic happen.
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These two guys had incredible chemistry.
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They were perfectly complementing one another and how they get a show.
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It was just the ying and yang of sports radio.
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And Mike was You're a bit more of the professorial tight coming at it from an angle that someone who had jobs behind the scenes and had been researching sports his whole life.
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And Chris was more of the wild card.
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The madman that could say any was known as the Mad Dog, but he could say anything at any moment.
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He could fly off the handle.
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His knowledge was excellent, but is a lure really came from the fact that he sounded like a caller.
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He sounded like every fan out there.
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Both of them did in many ways.
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And I think that's why the show had become so appealing is that it just fell to a New York audience that this could be any to fans sitting on a corner or in a bar or in a restaurant or at a game talking sports.
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And that's where it really resonated with the public.
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So to me, that was incredibly fascinating to be a part of.
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Obviously, I got to know both of them very well and became very close with both of them.
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But then also, as I continued my career and I started working with ****ysts, it gave me a little more insight into out and create Emma three out a pond and how to present that to an audience.
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Every single game they did every single day, five days a week.
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So I look back on that experience.
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It was very valuable and it was definitely a building block for me and understanding the big picture of this business that's screaming.
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I just fascinated with all of the like of the bad stuff.
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It really as I think Tony Kornheiser said of that do***entary.
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Everybody on sports radio.
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Conseco Mike in the Bad Dog for their six cents.
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They really made it into something bigger than it was before.
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Yeah, and what they did.
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They helped create a placard.
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They helped create a playbook off what this could be.
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The two man show to person show became very popular after that because it created debate and in created, sometimes conflict.
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They didn't always agree that it was a good thing for the the show, the fact that they didn't always agree.
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So, yeah, I think for many of these fourth radio stations, they have W F A and radio to thank and also the mike and the Mad Dog show toe.
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Look back on and say that help show everybody the way on what this could ultimately be.
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Yeah, well, that's that's really cool.
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All right, um, so you call tenants from Tennis Channel in basketball and and people And I wonder, what's a typical game day lying for those sports you're very different for Let's Take Basketball is an example 7 30 Normally, the games are so you're talking about night games in the N B.
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A.
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College basketball earlier noon, one to about three, and then it is based on a my traveling.
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Is it a Brooklyn at home game in my home? How do I set up and organize my day when I'm at home and I have to get to Brooklyn, which could be about a one hour ride hour and 10 minutes, depending on what time you leave and what the traffic looks like? Or is it a Rogaine where you're out at a hotel, having dinner with guys that around the crew and members of the crew and then, uh, just locking yourself in your hotel room and doing work often times for a basketball game? I've done so much of the work ahead of time that on game day I'm just trying to finishing touches on what I've done.
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Ah, football.
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You can imagine the entire week is dedicated to this one game, so I do Thursday nights on radio.
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That preparation is a little different than what I would do on television television.
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There's more room for stories and personal background just based on the media.
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The fact that the viewer can see the pictures on radio.
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You're painting the word pictures or you're doing a lot more of a blank canvas and then filling in all the gaps with what you see, not necessarily what you prepared, although there's still preparation when it comes to that.
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A lot of interviews for football before you ever get to the game, you at least under normal cir***stances.
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Prior the pandemic, I would sit down with starting quarterback and with a star offensive player and two defensive players and a head coach, and that would be part of your coverage.
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You would leave those stories in during the game.
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Tennis completely different.
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Me, In my experience, I don't live in that world 12 months a year, 365 days I parachute in, I parachute out, so I try to get as much of the material down as possible.
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But I know full well that they're gonna be surprises along the way at the French Open.
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As an example, which I've done the last 14 years for Tennis channel, they may tell me the night before this is the master of doing, and then the next day, if the session goes quickly, if another match becomes more interesting, they'll just toss us to that match.
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And maybe it's a match that I hadn't prepared for, at least in the same way that I would have.
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So you've got to just be ready for anything.
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And I learned that do in the U.
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S. Open.
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I did that for CBS and pretended Channel where they could just bounce you over toe any court at any time.
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So you have to be prepared for the mystery of it.
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And for me, that could be a little bit off putting because I'm so accustomed to. Here's my game.
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Here's my assignment.
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Prepare for the assignment to your work.
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This one is the unpredictable nature of it.
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So it can throw you out of your comfort zone a little bit.
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Yeah, I know.
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Kind of more in depth with what those a broadcaster, coach and you start on.
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Your meeting is like I always wanted to know about that.
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What would be Yeah.
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So when I got the job at CBS, it was 1998 and I have done one year of play by play for the Jets, 1997.
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So I didn't have a whole lot of established habits because I just hadn't done it that long.
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I had done the Nets on radio for one year and then moved to TV the next year.
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Similar situation.
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But this was different.
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This was a network job, and what I learned was that part of the contract part of the deal that the networks make with league is that you have access.
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So let's take my first ever game.
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Was Miami at Indianapolis, September of 1998? I'm told by the producer.
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Okay, you're gonna fly in on Thursday night.
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We're gonna have a meeting with the Colts at their facility on Friday morning, and then Friday night, we'll have dinner is a group, and Saturday you'll have your day free.
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But about three o'clock, we'll drive over into the Miami Dolphins hotel that they're staying in and will meet with their coach their players.
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So this particular example, which happened to be my first game for CBS, was Peyton Manning's first gain quarterback.
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So the first guy I met with as a CBS broadcaster doing the NFL was eight manning.
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So there's a room set up at the Colts facility.
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We're sitting in the room, are one major table and then shares around the table and open seat Manning comes walking in We stand up, I extend my hand I said, Hey, Peyton, how you doing? He goes, Hey, I am like he knew my name on my whoa Pretty sharp.
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So clearly the PR director.
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I was a gentleman by the name of Craig Kelly, who had been there for many years, told, Babe, manage a you're gonna be meeting with I An Eagle, the play by play man, Mark a the ****yst.
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The producer is Victor Frank, and the director is Suzanne Smith.
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But it was the only four people that work in the room.
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Eight. Manning sits down.
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We start going back and forth a little bit, trying to keep it light.
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Initially, how's it going? Has the transition that you find a place to live all those things.
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Then we start diving into the football side of it.
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And what I learned in the 1st 5 minutes of meeting eight Manning with that, he was a really smart and sharp human being.
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I just knew it within five minutes when we started talking and you realize he's a rookie.
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He has yet to play a game in the NFL yet he knew his offense inside and out.
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He knew every player on the other team.
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He knew my name, so I just I walked away from the experience, incredibly impressed, and that really has been the basis of what you work off of in these meetings.
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From that point on now, most of the guys are in a sharp as Peyton Manning, but you do get very good information.
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Some guys are excited to be there and they want to talk with you.
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Some guys like anything of life or not.
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Some coaches are excellent and they'll give you some inside information.
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Some coaches keep it very brief, and they don't want to get too into the weeds because I want you to have too much information.
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So the 20 now, 22 years I've been at CBS, you name it.
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I've met with them over the course of that time and whoever is played in the NFL and has been a legitimate star.
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Odds are I have spent some time with him in that meeting.
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No cameras, no microphones, just ah ah, pad and a pen and you take notes and then you try to use some of that information on the air to best serve the audience.
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I got a question here.
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So you, or for CBS, CBS typically does a F C names.
00:26:31
So Tony Romo is obviously a guy that played, I never seen you, so I would assume you didn't call many of his games.
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I want to be called at least one, All right.
00:26:40
I had two of his games during his career that he played in.
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I had a cowbell a game, just as Dak Prescott had started getting the nod.
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But yet I interviewed Tony twice as a player, so I was gonna say, Let away your time I'm painting.
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I would assume Romo just consider how amazing he's been, is an ****yst.
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Was it the same time being loud this time? Really? Does we talking about Yeah, I think it was a combination of things, guys.
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It's not only knowing what you're talking about, it's having the ability to be likeable while doing it.
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And Tony just had a likability.
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You sat down with him, and within a few minutes you felt a connection, and that's based on him, making you feel comfortable, really, in those situations.
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If you think about it.
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The player in the coach have most of the power.
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If they want to be a good session, they could make that decision there.
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All right, we're gonna have a nice conversation.
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If they wanted to be difficult, they could also make that decision.
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And I've had those as well.
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There have been some guys that just don't want there and, you know, they looked at it as a nuisance and they had their answers very curt.
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And they didn't really answer your questions.
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And before you knew it, seven minutes went by.
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They stood up and they would walk out.
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Tony was one of those guys that you could tell that the wheels were in motion when he was there, that he was ****ysing the situation that he was taking it all in.
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And, you know, look, most quarterbacks get most of the Q B's, understand that there's a responsibility that comes along with being the quarterback, being a leader and also being someone that in that dynamic, you got to make the most of it again.
00:28:32
There've been a few that were not that interested, but most of them understood what we needed and what we expected from that session.
00:28:45
And just like that, if there's one current player that you've met with that you think will be a great broadcaster Kobe.
00:28:54
Whoa.
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One current rating.
00:28:57
Excellent question.
00:28:59
Uh, I would tell you that if Aaron Rodgers wanted to do this, I don't know if he'd be interested in doing if he wanted to do it would be excellent.
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He is really smart.
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He's got a great sense of humor.
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Is inside is off the charts.
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He would be excellent.
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I have no idea if this is something that he would want to do, but he would be very good at it.
00:29:25
One coach that I could tell you that would blow people away if he became a studio ****yst.
00:29:32
Even if he did the games, I think he would be very good.
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But as a studio ****yst, he probably would be among the best.
00:29:39
Doing it right out of the gate is Mike Tomlin, who she might sorry about that.
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You know, Ravens, Steelers.
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That's and that's interested in that.
00:29:48
I totally thought that's a big coming out of your house with Bill Belichick.
00:29:51
I wondering about Bill would be good if you want your onions and they would be great.
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I just don't think Bill will have any interest in one day pursuing it.
00:30:05
But you want to talk about intelligence.
00:30:08
It's through the roof.
00:30:09
Is his memory of specific plays of history, of NFL historical content and then, obviously, is inside. But guests.
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Belichick would be excellent.
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Mike Tomlin has a way with words, and he has this knack of making everything sound very cool.
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So I just think he would light up the screen if he decided to do it.
00:30:32
Do you see that yet again? All right.
00:30:36
So, uh, all we went through a couple of minutes ago was that you go tennis, you called basketball.
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Football.
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What would you say is your favorites article? Oh, you can't.
00:30:49
You can't make me pick.
00:30:51
Yeah, I know you guys have siblings like it would be asking me to pick you and your siblings are my two kids.
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I can't I can't do it.
00:31:00
I really, truly have viewed in the same way throughout my career.
00:31:05
When I am doing a specific sport, I just put everything I have into that game into that assignment into that sport.
00:31:14
Whether it's TV, whether it's radios.
00:31:16
When I go and do the French Open on in Paris for two weeks, I'm locked it.
00:31:22
Those two weeks.
00:31:24
Everything that's going on in the tennis world matters to me and affects me and, um, completely meshed into it When I'm into the football season.
00:31:36
Trust me, I am in to the football season.
00:31:39
I'm usually juggling two games a week, so that's a lot of preparation, a lot of travel.
00:31:45
It will see how it all plays out with what the country is currently going through and what sports future looks like.
00:31:52
And then basketball.
00:31:53
I've been doing the NBA's since 1994.
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I love the N B. A.
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You know, I just I've always loved the N B A.
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And then when I'm doing college basketball in the N.
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C.
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A.
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A tournament of the new of that since 1998 in that week of the tournament or two weeks if you end up doing the Sweet 16 in the elite eight or a couple of years, I've done the world feed.
00:32:13
So I did the Final Four in the championship game.
00:32:16
It's hard to beat the excitement that that courses through your veins during that stretch.
00:32:24
The fact that you're gonna get upsets, the fact that you're gonna get names that you've never heard before that become household names because of March and schools that emerge Cinderella stories.
00:32:33
So I just know that whatever it is that that I'm doing, I'm all in.
00:32:40
That's how I tryto that's your said.
00:32:44
I have a follow up question.
00:32:46
You can take whatever sporting.
00:32:48
Now it makes sense because using your level of them, But what's your favorite? Gay? Later recalled.
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We had no schooling.
00:32:55
Call this one game on a personal level.
00:33:00
There was a 2002 1st around Siri's between the Nets and the Indiana Pacers.
00:33:06
The Nets were a shocking number one seed.
00:33:08
Nobody expected it.
00:33:09
They were terrible the year before that.
00:33:12
Santino here.
00:33:13
Now this was on, uh, this was on the local Fox Sports New York at the time in New York, and I was working with Bill Raftery.
00:33:23
We're doing the Nets games and they went to a decisive Game five.
00:33:27
That was the last year was three out of five in the first round of the playoffs and because the Nets had been such a a doormat in so many ways in the New York scored landscape, nobody ever gave him the time of day.
00:33:45
Nobody cared.
00:33:46
It was very little interest.
00:33:48
And finally, this team chasing kid emerged as Ah, Riel must see TV if they lost the first round series, right? They went to the finals when finals at Euro finals the next year they lost that first round series. Two. Indiana.
00:34:06
It just would have been such a difficult hit for them to take.
00:34:10
Everybody would have dismissed them.
00:34:12
They had to win the Siri's and the fact that Bill Raftery and I were doing the game raft and I have been doing the games for all those years.
00:34:19
When nobody cared, it went to double overtime.
00:34:22
Reggie Miller hits 1/2 court shot to send the came into the 1st T.
00:34:26
Miller dunks the ball at the end of the first overtime.
00:34:29
Send it in to a second overtime and chasing kid just took over in that second OT and will the Nets to a victory on a personal level that might have been the most fun I've ever had doing a game because of the paid off.
00:34:43
The crowd was rocking in the middle lands.
00:34:46
The best schools, like old, have been different than that.
00:34:50
I did that.
00:34:51
Do Butler National Championship game on a world were going.
00:34:55
They were had a chance to win it without having good.
00:34:58
He went off the Ram.
00:35:00
If that shot goes down, I think that's the greatest upset in tournament history.
00:35:05
I think that's the greatest finish in N.
00:35:07
C. A. A tournament history.
00:35:09
And it may have been the greatest finish in sports is end on something like that.
00:35:13
But it didnt.
00:35:14
Duke wins the national championship, and I don't know if you guys ended up watching the last dance.
00:35:19
Hell, yeah, but you know, I did team six of the Utah Jazz Chicago Bulls, eh? NBA Finals.
00:35:28
And that was Jordan's last game and the goal last shot.
00:35:36
Eyes.
00:35:37
He hit it over Brian Russell.
00:35:38
I did that for the world feet as well, and at the time I thought, you know, this might be a historical moment because everybody was talking about the possibility that Jordan may never come back for the Bulls.
00:35:50
Now, looking back on it and watching the last dance like everybody else did it really pounded the point home that that was I was sensational, how he ended it and also what was happening in Salt Lake City.
00:36:05
Inside that arena was known as the Delta Center.
00:36:07
Back then, those fans.
00:36:10
It was as loud and arena I it as I had ever heard in my life just moments before that happened.
00:36:18
And then Jordan smacks the ball out of Malone, hands brings it up, the floor hits the shot and the crowd goes silent.
00:36:27
It's a 180 degree turn and the way that it was set up doing the world feet.
00:36:33
We were not on the court.
00:36:34
Our broadcast location was in the stands, so we were basically amongst the fans.
00:36:39
There were fans in front of either event behind me and the horror and the sheer shock that I experienced from those fans.
00:36:47
They thought they were gonna win the title.
00:36:49
It was only Game six, but Scottie Pippen was still banged up that Jazz fans started already envisioning 1/7 game.
00:36:56
They're gonna win the title.
00:36:57
That cast will be world champions, and then, oh, Children ends it just like that Onley example.
00:37:04
What I don't I was somebody to compare, but I think I would talk about a 1,000,000.
00:37:08
You said that is Advil Ravens.
00:37:10
He's looking older women, all the names and the Taliban.
00:37:12
Name, best actress, wife.
00:37:15
Everything was pre game of that quarter.
00:37:18
Unbelievable.
00:37:19
And by it was horrible.
00:37:23
Exactly.
00:37:25
Yeah, that that was one of the bigger surprise is not that just the Titans won the game.
00:37:31
That happens.
00:37:32
They're always gonna be up. That's in sport.
00:37:34
It's the way they manhandled them in that game and how quickly it shifted early on.
00:37:42
Tannehill's thrown the ball well, I thought, Wow, for real.
00:37:48
They're gonna be ableto hang with the Ravens and I have absolutely Ravens games this year, and I saw just how exceptional more Jackson was.
00:37:57
How that team waas.
00:37:59
I just did not in my in my mind ever consider the possibility that they could get blown out and to suck the energy out of that stadium.
00:38:10
People ask me all the time, what's your favorite NFL venue and Seattle is awesome.
00:38:17
There are other stadiums that you have to put in the pantheon, their top five to meet, and I'm not just saying this because of the Ravens Jersey.
00:38:27
Baltimore does the best job in the NFL of getting the crowd ready, pre the music selection just his perfect throughout their game operations staff.
00:38:42
They understand how all of this works and the crowd is always juiced up.
00:38:48
I love doing games in Baltimore.
00:38:50
That game was a strange exception because the team, unfortunately I just pulled a bit of a no show.
00:38:59
Yeah, so you call that game right? Good.
00:39:05
Now is all of gold of the games safe with charge was like the best tweaking atmosphere it, and we can't go into everyone's Yeah, but book post you and it was so loud in the middle and bless alert for that off.
00:39:19
I mean, imagine right? And what I remember what sticks with me the most when you're doing play by play.
00:39:26
If the crowd is into it, the ability to blend your voice with the crowd that's learned over time figuring out what level you Congar 02 with your voice and then what level the crowd will be.
00:39:42
And if it blends together when someone sitting at home, it can feel like a symphony where it's just perfect.
00:39:50
Pitch the tone when the visiting team has all the big plays like Tennessee did, and Derrick Henry is throwing a Tim Tebow like jump pass for a touchdown, and there's no crowd to balance out your voice.
00:40:07
It's very much a different experience as a play by play announcer.
00:40:13
So I had to figure out a way to maintain the proper level so that Titan fans understood that.
00:40:21
Hey, look, um, I'm into the game.
00:40:25
I'm excited about what's happening.
00:40:26
I'm not favoring any other of the two teams, and that's something that I view as part of my job that you're never, never biased you never rooting for anybody.
00:40:36
All the only thing you're rooting for is a play by play.
00:40:38
Guy is a good game.
00:40:40
That's what you're rooting for for being competitive, to be exciting, to be a last minute finish, because the moment that people remember those are the moments that people have so assigned your voice with an associate you with.
00:40:53
So when the game is lopsided like that, you get fans that reacted always favoring this pay.
00:41:01
Murray's talking too much about that in that situation.
00:41:06
It's a tremendous highlight and I just want to convey the excitement of the highlight, but you have to realize there's no crowd to balance it out, so it doesn't sound quite the same.
00:41:16
That's not just solely for aimed like that.
00:41:20
It's any game you do where the visiting team starts putting together a highlight after highlight after highlight and having a great deal of success.
00:41:30
So that's what I walked away from.
00:41:32
That thinking was the Tennessee Titans has went in there and dismantled the Ravens, and all of those highlights were really exciting.
00:41:41
But if they happen in Tennessee or in Nashville, it would have been another level because the crowd would have would have changed the whole way that you interpreted the highlight.
00:41:52
You like that? That's your probably to do with your fancy thing.
00:41:55
Yeah, and I know a lot of announcers are very curious about how that's gonna look and how it's gonna sound and how it's gonna feel.
00:42:04
And of course, I'm in that category.
00:42:07
I don't have all the answers.
00:42:08
I do have experience called a bunch of games off of monitors from a remote location.
00:42:15
I did the 2013 n B A Finals on the world feet.
00:42:19
Miami eat San Antonio Spurs Ray Allen, corner three to tie the game, the Heat end up, winning Game six winning games.
00:42:27
And all of that was done from a studio in Secaucus, New Jersey I've done tennis events have done golf event.
00:42:33
I've done other basketball events from a studio, so that's one side of the equation.
00:42:38
Those games had fans so they could pump that into my headset so I could at least feel the energy of the crowd.
00:42:47
The closest thing that I would have to what will now describing with no fans.
00:42:52
I did the Nets in the mid nineties and they were not drawing a lot of heads.
00:42:58
Theo, I was doing games and guys, I'm not exaggerating.
00:43:02
I could literally hear the conversations from the fans behind me.
00:43:07
The only action, like, Wow, everything they were saying.
00:43:10
So I called the play.
00:43:12
We goto a time out, and then there was a couple sitting behind me.
00:43:15
I remember this and they were talking about their vacation plans, so I turned around and talk about it.
00:43:20
But you know, guys, uh, I think the Bahamas is a good idea.
00:43:26
You are that I was like, Yeah, I heard everything.
00:43:30
It's a mailing, very different.
00:43:32
Very area.
00:43:36
Sure you weren't hearing about the Bahamas at the training tray landscape.
00:43:39
Now very loud, that one.
00:43:41
I heard all those.
00:43:42
And let me tell you in Baltimore, this is another reason why it's a great set up.
00:43:47
But then the down pride.
00:43:49
If the Ravens aren't winning games the way our booth is situated, you're right with the fans.
00:43:56
You can reach out and touch a fan or a fan can reach out and touch you.
00:44:00
So I'll give you three stories about doing games at M and T Bank Stadium one.
00:44:09
I'm doing a game with numerous eyes on a Monday night football game, and the guy in front of us is getting drunk hammered, and I see it developing is a and the guys yelling boomers There was like Fulmer further and I'm telling Boomer in our heads and I go, Hey, don't engage with them.
00:44:29
Don't even look.
00:44:31
Don't even look at because you're just going courage.
00:44:33
He's like, Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right.
00:44:35
So we're calling the game.
00:44:36
We're calling the game now.
00:44:37
It's the fourth quarter this guy's had had to have had 12 years, and now he turns around.
00:44:44
He's looking right it in the fourth quarter during time.
00:44:46
Out is like a I'm trying not to look out of UK.
00:44:50
He holds up his phone, he goes, Would you charge my phone, man? Yeah, like, yeah, I'll charge your phone.
00:44:58
Crinkles phone.
00:44:59
I put it in the charger and Buhler looks at me.
00:45:01
He's like, I thought you said Don't engage.
00:45:03
Uh, I don't want this guy going home with No with no bars and no battery.
00:45:10
So my charges from breaking story.
00:45:13
The Ravens were playing the Brown and was always Bill Dawson has a kick to tie the game to sending over and then the kick hits the crossbar and goes straight up.
00:45:32
Right.
00:45:33
And no. One.
00:45:34
Sure if it's good if it's not good and people really waas the referee and he's not sure So a guy turns around a raven fan about five rows away from me.
00:45:48
He looks right at me for whatever reason, and he locks in on me.
00:45:52
They had long hair.
00:45:53
He looked like he was a Viking and he points to me and he goes like government or no good.
00:45:59
I thought it was no good.
00:46:01
That was my personal belief and I went like, no good.
00:46:07
And so he goes like that, then about it.
00:46:09
Took them 10 minutes to figure this out.
00:46:12
They call it good, and the guy turns back to me and again locks eyes hungry and he points at me.
00:46:19
And he whispered the words.
00:46:21
I mean whispers, But I could read Is his mouth goes, I'm going to kill you.
00:46:26
I don't Yep.
00:46:32
I e I didn't make the call.
00:46:35
What? So now over time happens, the Browns beat the Ravens.
00:46:41
Yeah, and this guy never watched the game.
00:46:45
He just creating me the entire way literally had bring security up to get me out of the stadium to make sure this guy was.
00:46:53
I've never seen that guy get.
00:46:55
That was the 2nd 1 the 3rd 1 in Baltimore.
00:46:58
When instant replay first started, everybody knew that there was a replay booth in the stadiums.
00:47:08
Nobody really knew where they were, and not most people didn't care.
00:47:12
For whatever reason, Ravens fans in that little section some of them not all of them thought that we were the replay booth.
00:47:20
So every crime that someone through the red flag any time that a play would be a challenge.
00:47:27
They turned around.
00:47:29
Yeah, okay, I go.
00:47:32
So I point to my CBS places like I'm not the re plan and talking like, Oh, it happened once.
00:47:41
It would happen every time it finally got to the point where we had to, like, put up a little section.
00:47:48
So to block us between fans because they literally would, like, stand up on their chairs to look into say, like, is it what's going on at interference? Yeah, that's how close we are in Baltimore.
00:48:05
I love going.
00:48:06
Let's get yeah.
00:48:09
Uh, right.
00:48:11
All right.
00:48:13
So you mentioned earlier about the Ray Allen trying you.
00:48:15
I didn't know that you were actually calling that the studio.
00:48:17
This is interesting, but we picked out two different Uh, please, that we know that you called.
00:48:25
And the front.
00:48:26
What is the ray allergy shots? So what was that like called the Ray Allen? Yes.
00:48:32
So what? I remember about that experience, Waas.
00:48:37
I had just gotten back from Paris.
00:48:39
I had done the French Open.
00:48:40
And the way that your body reacts when you cross that many time zones is that you don't instantly.
00:48:49
It's a just back to the time zone.
00:48:52
So the first few days I'm in Paris, you know, falling asleep at weird hours.
00:48:58
Sometimes it's early.
00:48:59
Sometimes it's laid.
00:49:00
Sometimes I get really tired in the middle of the day, and then when you fly back, your body clock is out of whack.
00:49:06
So I flew back, and then within a day or two, I was bowling game one of that Siri's and we were doing it out of a studio and it's very sterile.
00:49:17
It's just me.
00:49:18
I was working with June Spin Arkle, who I do Nets games.
00:49:20
Where do I do CBS college basketball with? So I didn't have to worry about that part of it.
00:49:26
Our partnerships very strong, and we could finish each other's sentences, so that part was taken care of.
00:49:32
But the part that I didn't really know waas energy level and audio, trying to gauge how that was gonna work.
00:49:41
They were sending audio into our headset.
00:49:44
Sometimes it was really loud, like, to the point where I could barely hear myself.
00:49:48
That's not good.
00:49:49
So I had tried to adjust it with the guy that was working, uh, at the site into caucus.
00:49:56
By the time getting you six rolled around.
00:49:59
I was very comfortable with it.
00:50:00
I have found a rhythm and I felt good about what we were doing.
00:50:05
Game one, it was still more than passable. I don't know.
00:50:08
Most people would even realize or know I have any people even today that had no idea that I was in the studio and I never mentioned it because nobody ever asked blood.
00:50:17
Uh, I thought for what the assignment was and what we needed to do, that we matched the energy level required for the event.
00:50:29
And all in all, we did about as good a job as you couldn't do.
00:50:33
Covering a game off of a monitor with very little back and forth and interaction from the site.
00:50:42
Way didn't get to do any interviews with anything I got.
00:50:46
I got from the newspaper calling someone that was working, event that I knew off the Internet, whatever it might be.
00:50:53
Then the rest was left up to you.
00:50:58
That's very interesting, because when I was much younger, I was like, Why don't why do these blind? The blood testers are all of the way to the studios when they could just stay in their office.
00:51:10
But now that I have really taken a deeper dive, it's much more than just right.
00:51:15
But you're about to a microphone.
00:51:17
It is to do the job well and to be exceptional, added, It requires more than just saying someone's name and saying the score and time remaining.
00:51:29
It's trying to find nuances that keep the broadcast entertaining and keep it informative, and being at the site allows you to see a lot more.
00:51:42
So you're inside.
00:51:43
You're supposed to be the eyes and ears for the audience, and you can't quite be that if you're just calling it off a screen and seeing the same exact angle that viewers see.
00:51:55
So while in theory you think no big deal, just call it from a studio and there's not gonna be much drop off.
00:52:04
There is little things fall through the cracks and just having a better feel for the event in the way that I view the job is you're a conduit between what's happening at the site and the people watching at home or in a bar or in a restaurant or at a friend's house, whatever it might be.
00:52:25
And if you don't have all the information.
00:52:28
How can you possibly do your job as well as is expected of you? So this is gonna be an adjustment for a lot of people.
00:52:36
Initially, the way the N B A is set up, I'll tell you that every local broadcast will be from their local market.
00:52:44
If you're doing the Milwaukee Bucks, then you're doing it from Milwaukee.
00:52:50
If ESPN and ABC get a chance to send a crew, I think to do that.
00:52:56
Turner Similar situation.
00:52:58
But I don't think everybody is going down to Orlando.
00:53:03
They first of all, I don't want that many people there.
00:53:05
They're trying to keep it tight so that they could monitor everybody and keep everybody safe.
00:53:10
And then, second, I think it's something that they're trying to see if for the future.
00:53:18
And if this continues for a long time, is it feasible to call these games from a studio and still to a quality job? Okay, Yeah.
00:53:30
So I actually, I looked down. I saw something.
00:53:34
My phone that marks Diners tweeted this out.
00:53:36
Former neck Jason Kidd, The Brooklyn Nets.
00:53:39
Another glance.
00:53:40
The New York Knicks have just been granted permission from the Lakers or Jason Peat interview for that job.
00:53:46
I and we used to coach the Nets.
00:53:49
Do you think he would do a good job over there here.
00:53:52
But I think he wants to be a head coach.
00:53:54
There's no doubt about it.
00:53:56
My sense of it.
00:53:58
My opinion is that he would want to walk into a good situation, meaning not the next meeting.
00:54:05
A team has enough talent to compete.
00:54:08
Right now.
00:54:09
You look, the next is definitely.
00:54:11
It's definitely a different feel than prior Leon Rose has taken over as team president.
00:54:17
They're trying to do things the right way.
00:54:19
They're trying to view it from the perspective of, uh, this is not a quick fix, right chasing at this stage of his life.
00:54:31
I know just wants to be a head coach, might have a choice.
00:54:35
He could come up in the Net possibilities.
00:54:38
He could come up for Philadelphia.
00:54:40
Sixers decide to make a change.
00:54:42
Jason did a very good job with the Nets and then went on to Milwaukee was successful.
00:54:47
For whatever reason, that thing fell apart.
00:54:49
There might have been a little bit of a power struggle there.
00:54:52
As to the Philip philosophy Jason taking this assistant coaching job in L.
00:54:57
A show that he was very serious about staying in the occupation and being a head coach one day.
00:55:03
So I think he's he's gonna have another chance.
00:55:08
The Knicks.
00:55:09
Tom Thibodeau is someone that's come up.
00:55:11
Kenny Atkinson, the former Net coach, has come up in conversation the next seem to have cast a wider net, and they might be looking upto 12 candidates to see who's the best fit.
00:55:26
Yes, all right.
00:55:27
Now, this is the question we were gonna ask you, um, was kind your thoughts on the nets? Uh, it seems like this season and obviously this year have been really weird with the way it's now.
00:55:38
Orlando, anything can happen.
00:55:41
But the way it looks like is this at least this year might not meeting here for the Nets, but they definitely with Kyrie and Katie next year are going the right direction.
00:55:50
What do you think about the Nets for maybe this year in the future? Yeah, The reality is they had always circled 2020 21 because they knew that's when Kevin Durant would be healthy and the pairing of Durant and Kyrie Irving, two guys that wanted to play with one another, trying to create the right mix and computation around them.
00:56:11
That's been shown Marx's goal not just this year but the last 3.
00:56:16
5 4 years trying to create a culture that people wanted to be a part of, and what they've done is they change the way they're viewed around the NBA's.
00:56:25
That's not easy to do.
00:56:27
That's very difficult.
00:56:28
How did they do that a few ways? One.
00:56:33
The The fact of the matter is, people now around the league talk about the Nets is being a destination.
00:56:40
That was never the case.
00:56:41
They looked at Brooklyn as untapped potential, and if things went well there, it could really mushroom into something positive.
00:56:51
Second, they built a lot of trust with players with agents.
00:56:56
That was a big key.
00:56:57
I think that was a smart play by Sean Marks.
00:57:01
He looked at the dynamic and relationship with agents as integral in changing the way that they're persona is and to try to build an identity.
00:57:13
The agents now look the Nets as a team that's willing to do business the right way.
00:57:20
So what does that mean it means they treat your players right.
00:57:24
It means they treat the players families right as well.
00:57:29
And don't take that lightly.
00:57:30
That becomes a big deal for players.
00:57:32
Women feel comfortable that their families air welcome inside the facility, at the arena or on a team flight at the hotel, that it's a very different view from management's point of view.
00:57:48
And that's what they did.
00:57:49
And they develop talent.
00:57:51
I mean, that might be the most important part of it.
00:57:53
The fact that Djohar, a Spencer Dinwiddie caress liver Jared Allen all have gotten better the last three years.
00:58:02
That speaks volumes.
00:58:04
People look at crowd around the league and say, Oh, wait a second So that's where I can go and I could maximize my potential.
00:58:10
I can get better, improve, polish my skills and then get a bigger contract down the road.
00:58:17
So I think all of those ingredients played a role.
00:58:19
And obviously Katie and Kyrie gave them credibility.
00:58:24
Now people around the league say, Oh, wait a second for the nature, the dancer for real here, they're trying to win the whole thing.
00:58:32
They're not just talking about what they're gonna do. One day.
00:58:35
It's been pretty impressive to see.
00:58:37
And for someone that's now been doing the games for 26 years, uh, it was It was nice to see a plan put into action and to see them actually following through and not cut corners.
00:58:51
Exactly.
00:58:52
What you just said is why I was so surprised they fired Kenny.
00:58:55
I paid sings.
00:58:56
It felt like they were going in the right direction.
00:58:57
Yeah, I did. They fire.
00:58:59
I still don't know the answer.
00:59:02
I was very surprised as well.
00:59:03
My understanding of it is that Kenny was hearing some rumblings that he may not be in their future, So there was no plan to fire in during the season.
00:59:17
But once you heard those rumblings, he went to management and said, Hey, look, I wanna have a meeting.
00:59:21
I want to sit down And in that meeting may have said, like, What's the deal and my in for next year? Because I'm doing all this work, putting all this time in a blood sweat and tears in, and I want to know I am I going to get a chance to coach these guys when we start competing at the highest level, and the answer to that may have been.
00:59:42
I can't guarantee that.
00:59:44
And that might have been enough for Kenny to say, Hey, look, I don't want to guarantee that I understand.
00:59:51
But if you're not confident in what I'm doing and if I'm not the right guy, then let's do this now because I don't give me an opportunity to still be available for jobs around the n B A.
01:00:03
And no hard feelings will move on.
01:00:07
So my my sense is that's probably closer to the reality of what happened that the Nets didn't really plan on it.
01:00:16
But some conversations, some uncomfortable conversations took place, and maybe some decisions were made based on those conversations.
01:00:27
All right, that that one, I guess that could be It's just It was very surprising.
01:00:34
Make I agree.
01:00:36
Um, Sam? Uh huh.
01:00:42
There should have we mentioned Ray Allen shot Aziz, where the call, the other one was the mining American.
01:00:48
I'll tell you that.
01:00:49
It's but right over there where I was watching the Ravens Chiefs game and I'm watching that game and I have never seen before or since where in Italy huddle, they cut away to you will not believe what just happened, and they showed the play and, weirdly enough, the next play for the cheese without fourth of 19 from the homes.
01:01:15
That who's not that.
01:01:18
But what was the life for the mind miracle? Just calling that, yeah, the constant reminder that you should put into your brain is a play by play announcer is never assume a game is over.
01:01:36
So in that particular case, and this is just some background information, I think I had a tight flight or Dan found Santa tight Flight one of US appetite flight.
01:01:45
I just knew we had to get out of there pretty quickly once the game ended.
01:01:50
So prior to that play, I had taken my notes off the counter and put them in my bag just to save 11 seconds.
01:01:59
It was a silly thing to do to begin with and put them in my bag.
01:02:04
That's where my mentality was.
01:02:06
I had seen this over and over again in the NFL last ditch.
01:02:10
Try either a hail mary or lateral lateral, lateral lateral lateral seen it never, ever seems to work.
01:02:18
Usually it ends up in the hands of a big offensive linemen and then funny things may happen in the ball sports free.
01:02:26
And that's the end of the scramble in the game.
01:02:28
It's this one.
01:02:31
Bill Belichick made the decision to send Rob Gronkowski into the game, and it struck me when they saw him trotting onto the field That okay, they must be anticipating a Hail Mary, because why else would grant being there just basically, like a basketball move box out your man and knocked the ball down? Well, they didn't do that.
01:02:56
They decided.
01:02:58
Lateral right, lateral lateral.
01:03:00
And as it's happening, it strikes me.
01:03:06
That Kenyan drink could loop around open space, and if you listen back to the call, it's building.
01:03:14
At first it sounds like a play by play announcer that's waiting to call the end of the game.
01:03:20
And then the realization, and it's different levels at that point.
01:03:24
And then Gronkowski.
01:03:26
I see him enter the picture and realize he's not gonna get there.
01:03:30
So to call that play to be on top of it, bring the proper emotion happened in Miami's or the fans that were left.
01:03:38
Most of them have gone.
01:03:40
The fair that were left were stupefied, and it turned out be too being one of the most incredible place that I've ever seen.
01:03:48
An integral history.
01:03:49
I believe I did not.
01:03:52
I did not deal with my phone until I got to the airport.
01:03:55
We were in the car.
01:03:56
We were still very charged up about it talking about it.
01:04:01
And I got to the airport and I had 285 texts and that this one certainly waas the the latter will heard around the country.
01:04:15
Yeah, I think the way you said it too, was it didn't have the angle, because tricks you had nothing to do that wrong was in the game.
01:04:24
It was he had no chance to get there.
01:04:27
No.
01:04:28
And that was a tight end.
01:04:32
Maybe if it's a safety, if it's a linebacker and they're used to it, there's muscle memory in reacting in the moment, right? He has no muscle memory in regards to having to bring down a running back in that situation.
01:04:49
So, uh, it was bizarre.
01:04:52
It was an incredible ending.
01:04:55
And as we know, it didn't matter that the Patriots ended up winning the Super Bowl. Anyway, that here.
01:05:02
So go figure.
01:05:06
Yeah, All right.
01:05:08
so I want to know.
01:05:09
I'm really curious as to what? Your friend, What goes into What's your breath, like before? Uh, digging in for, you know, for each sport, your cocaine use a bit of a break out.
01:05:22
Yeah.
01:05:23
For football, it's It's certainly the most time consuming of the bunch.
01:05:26
Just because you have 53 players on a team and the one game meeting so much and so much effort is put into the have nots is for a broadcast and point.
01:05:38
From the team standpoint, it was 1/16 of their season.
01:05:42
It takes on so much meaning.
01:05:44
So you're the basics on your board.
01:05:47
Will have a spotting chart that I created by hand its name, its uniformed number.
01:05:53
It's height, weight, age, how many years it didn't leave, what college they went to, how they were acquired, what year they were drafted, what round they were drafted in, and then background information that they've been the Pro Bowl.
01:06:07
How many times look, teams that they played for prior.
01:06:10
This is all information that needs to be there, and it has to be grabbed at a moment's notice.
01:06:15
You don't want to search through your board.
01:06:17
You don't wanna have to leave through pages.
01:06:20
You want to be able to look down and know what you need when you need it.
01:06:25
So a lot of that information, because I still write it out, is pounded into your head as you're writing it.
01:06:31
But it is an expansive process, and I'll get into scouting reports on players background on what kind of player they are.
01:06:40
And what are the additives that best describe that.
01:06:44
And then any other personal stories that might factor in all of that will be on one board of football chart, and it will be an offense and then the approaching team's defense and you flip it.
01:06:57
And it's the opposing team's offense and then the team's defense that you were talking about.
01:07:02
Beyond that, I do another large Manila folder with just notes on each team, and I'm talking about 35 notes for each team than individual notes for each team, a section on the coaches, how many years they done it, who stabs.
01:07:18
They might have been on prior what coaches have served under them that it become head coaches.
01:07:25
You have to get into the nitty gritty here because you just never know.
01:07:30
If you have a blowout, you're gonna need information.
01:07:32
If you have a great game, I might use 10 or 15% of that.
01:07:39
In addition to that, we talked very early about the interviews that that we do and those interviews I will take and then I'll move them into, ah, format.
01:07:50
That's a little more digestible when we're on the air, all type out name and then a bullet point of what they had to say, and in a way that I can tell that story very quickly and I'll do that for each player.
01:08:04
So with Baltimore, we met with more Jackson.
01:08:08
We met with marking grow.
01:08:11
We met with John Harbaugh so on and so forth, and you'll have a little section for each player or coach that he met with with stories beyond it. Basketball.
01:08:23
I have a board that that I created starting point guard to guard small, forward, powerful word center on one side, their respective backups on the other and then fill in the blanks with the other players and their same thing.
01:08:36
Height, weight, age, hometown.
01:08:40
How many years have they been in the league? What's todo What year were they drafted? How were they acquired? What's their contract situation? What other teams do they play for? And then get into more particulars about those players than on game day? I'll take an index card and all right down on each side of that index card, the latest information on the team notes on those teams.
01:09:06
Specific things I can use pregame things I can use during the game, things that I want to go back to.
01:09:13
If the game gets away from us and it's a 20 point blowout, that's the key.
01:09:18
The key is you gotta have enough information to keep the broadcast moving, even if the play on the field or on the court is not all that any throwing but right? Very, yeah.
01:09:34
So the closing question that we asked, we asked to yourself, No, we asked to all of our broadcasters, and we love to hear what they have to say.
01:09:42
What advice would you get to an aspiring SportsCastr? Well, what you're dooming is the first piece of advice you got to go do it if you have a chance.
01:09:55
The way things are set up now in our world you've got a camera right there.
01:10:01
Each of you have a camera, you have your own mini studio and you can work at this on a daily basis.
01:10:08
You could record yourself.
01:10:10
You could look back at it.
01:10:11
You can critique your own work.
01:10:13
You can polish your skills.
01:10:15
So that's the first part of it.
01:10:17
You have to actually go out and do it.
01:10:19
I'm not saying that you've got to do it every single day from the age of 10 years old, all the way through until you go to college.
01:10:26
But if you can get practice, it does help Reps help the second part, and this is a really important part.
01:10:36
You do have to change the way that you view and listen to sports.
01:10:41
If you're truly interested in doing this one day, you got to start paying attention to other things in the broadcast.
01:10:48
You could still be a fan.
01:10:49
That's it.
01:10:50
The backbone of all of this, the passion that it requires to do this and the knowledge From a fan standpoint.
01:10:58
There are a lot of people that know their stuff and have passion.
01:11:02
But now how do you distinguish yourself well by being very well spoken and articulate by knowing your stuff by speaking with confidence and by being able to perform in the moment.
01:11:15
Watching others do it is a great way to learn.
01:11:20
So when you watch a broadcast now, really watch with a critical eye or listen with a critical ear when you watch SportsCenter When you listen to your favorite talk show, you gotta do it now with the idea that one day you want to do this one day.
01:11:36
This is a job that you would like the half in a career that you'd like to pursue.
01:11:41
So jot down notes if need be.
01:11:44
What you like about a broadcaster, what you don't like just so when you're put in that position, you can refer to those and remember what it is you'd like to be.
01:11:55
When you get your opportunity to do it, that's that's really important.
01:12:00
And then hurt.
01:12:01
I would say this anything on that young that is interested in trying to improve themselves future but how you treat people and that's still an important part.
01:12:16
This is a communications business.
01:12:18
You have to be able to communicate.
01:12:20
You have to be able to look people in the eye and connect with them, and you have to find common ground.
01:12:25
And maybe now, more than ever, considering what's going on in our country, you just have to be kind.
01:12:32
You have to be a good person.
01:12:34
There's no reason not to be that way.
01:12:37
And the people that come up with excuses and continue Teoh complain about all the reasons they've been wronged, how they got screwed over by this person, and it's not productive.
01:12:49
So if you take all those things that we talked about going out and doing it listening and consuming and watching and then really being magnanimous in your life, there's a pretty good chance you'll find a role in this position.
01:13:08
But you do have toe figure out how to connect with people.
01:13:12
And you do have to understand the big picture here that now more than ever, there are more people that want to do this than ever before.
01:13:20
It is a fun job.
01:13:22
It's a really fun job, but very competitive as well.
01:13:28
Thank you.
01:13:31
My pleasure, guys.
01:13:33
Design that we've had one interview of in this one go longer than 40 minutes.
01:13:39
We're now over our is very fun to. Yeah.
01:13:45
No, it is.
01:13:46
Josh.
01:13:47
Michael. Luke really appreciated.
01:13:49
I know we've been talking about this for a few weeks since my son Noah was on, so I'm glad we finally got the chance to do it.
01:13:56
I hope you guys have a tremendous summer.
01:13:58
I know things were weird and things were different, but still try to be productive and see if you can do something of value that you could look back on and say, Okay, I made the most of that time.
01:14:10
And just prepare yourself for for what's to come.
01:14:14
You've got right futures in front of us.
01:14:16
So take advantage of all these opportunities that come your way.
01:14:19
And I think that is.
01:14:23
There we go.
01:14:25
Ladies and gentlemen, that is it for our exclusive interview with anyone.
01:14:31
Seriously? Best.
01:14:33
And we've ever done.
01:14:34
No question about that, were we think and I am first.
01:14:43
Now those That's what in the middle of our interview, we got breaking news.
01:14:51
All right, well, let me pull up the right.
01:14:54
So it's first journal with the ever will be pressure released this key belt on off the presses today, and it also talks about what they are, what they were planning to do in the playoffs this year and what it's still possible.
01:15:08
So here is the fresh release it says.
01:15:11
Major League Baseball issued the following statement tonight.
01:15:14
Today, the Major League Baseball Players Association informed us that they have rejected the agreement framework developed by Commissioner Manfred and Toni Clarke.
01:15:24
Needless to say, we're disappointed by this development.
01:15:27
The framework provided an opportunity for MLB and his players to work together to confront the difficulties and challenges presented by the pandemic.
01:15:35
It also gave other fans the chance to see an exciting new postseason format.
01:15:41
And it offered players significant benefits, including the Universal D H for two years, a guarantee 25 million in playoff pulls in 2020.
01:15:50
33 million and forgiven salary advances.
01:15:53
That would increase the take home pay of 61% of meter really puller overall for players of 104% of pro rated salary.
01:16:07
Over the last two days, MLB agreed to remove expanded postseason in 2020 in order to address player concerns.
01:16:15
In view of this rejection, the MLB clubs have unanimously voted to proceed with the 2020 seats of Under terms of the March 26th Agreement.
01:16:23
The provision listed above Will that be operative Ah, in order to produce a schedule with a specific number of games were that we're asking that the players Association provide us by five, but provided to us by 5 p.m.
01:16:40
Eastern time tomorrow with two pieces of information.
01:16:44
The first is whether players will be able to report to camp with him seven days by July 1st.
01:16:50
The second is whether Players Association will agree on the operating Daniel which contains the health of safety protocols necessary to give us the best opportunity t conduct and complete our regular season and postseason.
01:17:04
So there you have it.
01:17:06
Okay, So the big thing, though that I'm taken away from this, is that nothing is still official yet Definitely.
01:17:23
I say this without question.
01:17:28
This is the best piece of views and by far the the most promising and honestly, in my opinion, the first time.
01:17:36
Or I can even consider the fact that maybe will have baseball this year because that server trying you fed in the last two weeks No, this is the first time that I no No, that's the first time.
01:17:49
That's the third time you said it on the Emily made a program, but I still have first time ever.
01:17:55
You thought there was a chance.
01:17:56
Then you said one thing when they were they would be accounted.
01:17:59
You said This is the first on it.
01:18:00
There's a chanting There's a second Is it the summer time for setting the last meat? I set all eyes, but this is the first time that I actually you never mind. You are right.
01:18:13
But no, I'm I see your point.
01:18:17
Oh, it's one of the first time since it was still If you have, tell me yes or no, I'm still leaning towards No, until I finally see agreement until I see a full fledged.
01:18:33
This is what we are doing from the MLB.
01:18:36
That'll be P A.
01:18:38
I will still be leaning more towards the back.
01:18:42
And I would still be leaning more towards no baseball four down.
01:18:48
But again, as I said for the first time, Or I guess third time, I guess maybe this is a little promising, but I definitely still have my doubts.
01:19:02
Are you There he is, but just happy.
01:19:07
Nothing all right? Yes.
01:19:14
So you think? Yes.
01:19:22
Alison.
01:19:25
It's trying to fight back a month, by the way. Happy birthday.
01:19:28
Michael's mom.
01:19:30
Oh, thank you.
01:19:31
Thank you.
01:19:35
Uh, yeah, that's actually a good thing. Oh, yeah, sure.
01:19:37
That interview, Because every time to celebrate.
01:19:42
Yeah.
01:19:43
So this is you know, I think this is very good that they have, like, such a detailed proposals are the only ones your head.
01:19:53
This one of the first times you've actually, like had hoped for.
01:19:55
And I'll be season SOS.
01:19:57
Yeah.
01:19:59
Um, now, whether or not I think it's going to be accepted, it doesn't look like it.
01:20:06
All that said, the owners have agreed.
01:20:09
It doesn't look like it.
01:20:10
And I'll tell you this today, the Emily B A Oh, are they really said they wouldn't offer anything in the Sunday happened after? Just done.
01:20:20
Apparently, that's not like being used anywhere because this, but, uh, yeah, I'm still no certain.
01:20:30
Adeline, look, you with us here? Yeah, I'm not certain I need the letter.
01:20:37
Sounds somewhat promising, but I just I'm not going to commit to anything until there's 100% guarantee this is what they're gonna be here and the players are the exactly Blake.
01:20:51
There was some sort of slide show, I think by m o.
01:20:54
B on Fox.
01:20:55
It was like Mike Trout Aaron Judge.
01:20:57
Oh, yeah.
01:20:58
Generally, it was all there.
01:21:00
Tell us whether where the and also the exact same fig tell us Web and where to show up and we will show up.
01:21:09
And that's exactly what the what they need to do are these.
01:21:14
Well, it's not that easy.
01:21:15
Okay? Really, That's not what the situation is.
01:21:19
And you know, look, I'm in the same boat as you I really wanted and will be season, and I know some players don't, But how about you put my trap narrower Judge in charge of the MLB PS.
01:21:30
They could talk some sense into those guys, right? I mean, I think the MLB is going to talk to the chief of the M o b p a and say, Hey, let's get some more players actually on here.
01:21:41
When woman Egyptians died that like I'm talking maybe 23 years from now, they may be able to do so correctly.
01:21:50
Hopefully, you and Mike Trout it's It's safe to say my traps the face of baseball.
01:21:56
Oh, yes, yeah, No.
01:21:59
Right. But at least put him on there.
01:22:03
Mike Trent wants to play.
01:22:04
He's like a little boring Dreams of the air of a man bs just like steams.
01:22:10
Like what? 100 figure he is in a battle that exactly exactly right? It's in the leg.
01:22:17
If LeBron James says he's gonna play N b A players gonna play right.
01:22:22
My trust does not really happen.
01:22:25
Never throw money trout in the MLB p A and docks incentive to those, uh, people.
01:22:32
And I have said this before.
01:22:34
Rob Manfred has to deal with Southern ignorant ingredient people within the MLB p.
01:22:40
A.
01:22:41
And it's very hard.
01:22:42
For a minute, he had taught of pressure on him.
01:22:45
Everyone's aiding on Rob Man for not doing anything.
01:22:48
You try getting an agreement with the Emily P. A.
01:22:52
All right? It's not easy.
01:22:55
Yeah. Yep.
01:22:56
Well, you might be the same thing here as much as it upsets me to say, because I have not seen a single thing wrong with anybody.
01:23:03
Proposals? As much as it pains me to say, I do not believe this will get past because there's gonna be that one thing that's going to keep the MLB P A.
01:23:14
That's gonna keep you will be from a B a from sciences.
01:23:17
But then there's that one you know, a tiny detail with showers getting paid in the arm.
01:23:22
But but what is? It's very hard to get by them.
01:23:27
And if you put leaders and Mike Trout again, being a face of baseball is being the leader of baseball.
01:23:36
LeBron James is the leader of the n b A Alec players wise Tom Braiding is leader of the NFL.
01:23:42
Everyone's gonna listen to Tom Brady, right? Yeah, so much for if there really is one, I don't know.
01:23:47
But like I'm saying, Tom Brady's like me the year of like, biggest I don't think that name thing, though, Right? Ellis Iwas he waas Now it's nothing.
01:24:00
I don't think there is a guy.
01:24:01
Period is not much.
01:24:02
I'm not saying it, but I think you're right, right? Yeah, My point is, if you put my tractor Liam obp A.
01:24:10
There's a good chance, the only vehicle what might listen and they should do that.
01:24:14
Whoever's in charge of putting it there, it's probably not rob man, because we have been for obviously once.
01:24:19
Same thing we all want for the Emily P. A to agree.
01:24:24
And it doesn't say Like many people on the M v p a r actually agree, so I might actually put some more people in the loop B A take root.
01:24:33
You kind of got him saying way over here.
01:24:37
Like Luke. Let's move on.
01:24:39
Yeah, All right.
01:24:40
So a part of that agreement was in there about the teach and this.
01:24:46
Things that have gone out there and ever be on Fox.
01:24:50
Asks what? Do you like it when you what from? Well, never mind.
01:24:57
Times I go, I go, I'm just going to, uh which do you prefer? Designated hitter or pictures hitting? I have a very I definitely would answer for this.
01:25:10
Why can't the pictures hit? Why not? I have no problem with I don't understand.
01:25:19
And this is coming from, of course, a almost non existent baseball fan.
01:25:24
So I am sure there is a reason for it.
01:25:27
But personally, I don't see the issue with pictures hitting.
01:25:33
Well, John is like in the a l.
01:25:35
A of mediations and writing on that, but I'm saying if it was like the question is, why is pictures of the ages personally, I would say, Just have the pictures head.
01:25:44
I get the point.
01:25:48
Alright, and here's you know, here's my take.
01:25:52
I am not against the Picture City.
01:25:56
There is a reason they are called the designated hitter a lot of times, and this is not in all cases, but a lot of times.
01:26:05
One of the best batters on your team is it.
01:26:08
Use it designated hitter because one of your best players would be in that role that he usually plays in.
01:26:15
Or he's just a designated hitter like Nelson Cruz, for example.
01:26:20
He's a lot of bombs.
01:26:21
He did the h you know, Right? Mark Szabo played age for the Orioles.
01:26:27
A job again.
01:26:29
I don't have any problem with pictures.
01:26:31
I don't have any problem with pictures.
01:26:33
Ah, bang.
01:26:34
But And again, I'm not like discrediting the towns of pictures batting because look alike.
01:26:40
Steam straw Vernonia, like three home runs in a game.
01:26:44
Crazy but like my point is Josh and again.
01:26:49
No, I'm not taking a the weapon pictures, but who was the better hitter? Whose job is it to hit the ball and whose job is it to throw the ball right again? I am not taking any single life in the pictures, Manning. I'm not.
01:27:02
Why? The D ages have a job.
01:27:05
Any pictures have a job and the job of the pictures off the hit The job of the agents is a designated hitter.
01:27:12
They are designated to hit.
01:27:14
Which is why, if you're gonna keep one in the lineup, I se de it because I love the pictures.
01:27:20
Not playing the pictures, pitching.
01:27:22
I'm gonna say, Deke, we go.
01:27:26
I think you're saying I just Joan fully.
01:27:35
I don't fully understand exactly why the deity to think.
01:27:40
And why can't those guys that I understand they're dropping Tip.
01:27:43
But why can't they just play out? Feel too, does that or whatever in play.
01:27:48
Because I wasn't institute in the first place.
01:27:51
Because back then, the power hitters were also fake playing the field.
01:27:55
Why? You think you are anywhere? They still deal, Aaron.
01:27:59
Judge is an outfielder.
01:28:00
Anybody else? Right? Right.
01:28:03
And I see your point.
01:28:04
But sometimes it just Yes, I I don't know the baseball history as well as you know. I see you.
01:28:13
I I know nothing.
01:28:15
I would I know being Booth was born in Baltimore and yeah, good shot, Michael.
01:28:23
Uh, historian, Uh, What? I think I Yeah, uh, So here's much Josh, I totally agree with you.
01:28:38
If baseball started, if that d h.
01:28:42
Is were never created, but because I totally think the pictures could hit Babe Ruth was a picture.
01:28:47
One point in this career, he played for the Orioles as a pitcher, Uh, and then now regarded as one of the best singers of all time may be the best hitter of all time.
01:28:57
But I asked Jerry Crasnick this when I was at play McCleave broadcasting kids with Michael was there, too.
01:29:02
And about this subject.
01:29:04
And he said that they will never There will never be universal pitches pitchers hitting.
01:29:09
And it's for one reason and one reasonably jobs you create.
01:29:13
It eliminates so many jobs if they get rid of that entire position.
01:29:17
Because But my question is, why was the position created in the first place? Well, yeah, I totally agree with you about that.
01:29:26
Yeah, they were trying to create jobs at that point.
01:29:28
That could be, ah, reasonable explanation, but yeah, I I'm totally with you.
01:29:36
I think the pictures air completely able to hit.
01:29:39
I mean, they've hit home runs with what? All along with Dharma? Yeah, when pictures are terrible examples.
01:29:46
Hey, but like CDs, Rosberg, for example.
01:29:51
He has ready and and Stephen Strasbourg hit like three and a game.
01:29:56
That's but you know, but I am not taking anything away from the talent of the picture sitting.
01:30:09
They're there in the war.
01:30:11
They are there any any a batting warmups, sometimes hitting or playing catch, but occasionally there that they're they're heading your hitting right there with the practices I would assume in the batting cages.
01:30:26
You know, they're they're doing a lot, and I am not taking anything away from how well or not, well, there the pictures or in bed.
01:30:37
But if you couldn't break down their jobs or that word picture, it's just his Jammeh's pitch but designated hitter.
01:30:49
His job is to hit, so but who would say it would be the designated hitter? Because the picture is staying there, doesn't get in.
01:31:00
The picture is not going anywhere you're trying removed.
01:31:04
Doesn't matter.
01:31:05
Hitter from the wind up.
01:31:07
I would assume this, you know.
01:31:09
Is it still it What? What? Who said that? What job Growth in the guy.
01:31:17
You start right for ESPN.
01:31:19
And now we work for Liam O B.
01:31:21
Right? So he you know, and he makes a excellent point.
01:31:26
The pictures have a job already, and once again, don't give her up. They could hit.
01:31:33
But this is another job that the MLB has added an equal money for for players.
01:31:38
And then you have four people so d h won't ever leave.
01:31:42
And I don't believe that it should.
01:31:46
Good, I got all right.
01:31:51
Let's go to a question from actually, let's go to, uh, former Raider M Steelers wide receiver Martavis Bryant has officially applied for reinstatement per room.
01:32:04
Carpenter Uh, Bryant has been out of league since 2018 at his best season came in 2015 when he put up 765 yards and six touchdowns in Pittsburgh.
01:32:18
Well, this he's not back. Good.
01:32:21
He's okay. Receiver.
01:32:22
Okay.
01:32:23
No, he was really good case that he's not a store now.
01:32:27
He had star potential.
01:32:29
He was an excellent receiver.
01:32:30
He could have done really good job and then off the field issues for him.
01:32:35
Yeah, but he was not my own.
01:32:38
Let insane.
01:32:39
I'm not sure about this.
01:32:41
Yeah, I called it the Shame Show earlier.
01:32:43
Ah, powered our and asked him about.
01:32:46
That's about now that I've thought about.
01:32:48
I completely agree with Sam.
01:32:50
It's not really whether he gets reinstated.
01:32:52
I beat.
01:32:53
Obviously, that has to come first, but it's really whether a Tibor society but not everyone will.
01:32:59
And I must say, if he gets re instated, what would what Ah would side of it, he said.
01:33:06
Like the tooth, they kind of are in the mix for a B.
01:33:08
And, yeah, I completely agree with him.
01:33:10
I don't think I think the baby is obviously much, much better than Marty was brought.
01:33:14
Uh, but yet I think what I've seen a lot on on social Media lie especially and a couple players the 40 Niners are starting to.
01:33:25
Really, the players are starting to voice and some fancy new voice that they want Dez Bryant on their teeth.
01:33:31
I don't want it.
01:33:32
I I wouldn't want if I were them.
01:33:34
I don't think it would make any sense.
01:33:35
I think will be a hard move, one that I think that could potentially be added to stand with, just go.
01:33:41
So I wanted to mention it because I think it's definitely possible.
01:33:45
I wanna bring people's attention for those who have not seen it.
01:33:47
But also, I think if you don't want to know, does Bryant route, Even though I don't I person wouldn't want either of them.
01:33:53
But of the two I would rather have market was Bryant Martavis.
01:33:57
Bryant was a great player and he had great potential and you would've been a superstar.
01:34:01
And in a Pro Bowler hat, Antonio Brown up in there had been had off the field issues captain on the field.
01:34:08
That's Brian a great player.
01:34:10
No is No, he hasn't been six years, seven years.
01:34:16
Who knows? ***, ***, ***.
01:34:21
He's been non starting caliber for four.
01:34:25
He hasn't played.
01:34:26
You don't know that.
01:34:27
That's exactly what you know because he's hurt for four years.
01:34:33
No using were NFL you haven't seen quite.
01:34:36
He wasn't in the other for this trash season, so that's one here.
01:34:39
He does not deserve to be on a team desperate, and there is no reason why anybody should sign this bright Martavis Bryant.
01:34:45
I would rather over Dez Bryant, but I wasn't sorry.
01:34:47
All right, so I think he has a time potential.
01:34:50
He's really good.
01:34:51
And I think it really if that part of his life is behind him with all he was battling off the field, then, you know, as a brave INS fan, I think he actually could be fitter scheme.
01:35:06
Really? Well, I think it go.
01:35:08
He won out CDs he was taking That was what It waas Whatever.
01:35:12
Waas No, I think it was not performance enhancing drugs, but yeah, this doesn't matter. Doesn't matter.
01:35:17
And whatever he was dealing with off the field but mine, isn't it it he did not have an addiction.
01:35:22
The reason why NFL rule agree they're not.
01:35:24
It was what? The rule waas.
01:35:26
So now that that we just looking NFL and he has no addiction, Josh, And that's not my point.
01:35:37
Okay, My point is that I do believe you be really good in the NFL.
01:35:40
I think would be a great addition for many came about science.
01:35:43
And And if I here's a guy that I actually might look for as a Ravens fan, I think he puts our scheme, and I think you do it really Well, yes, I think he goes on the Ravens.
01:35:55
He could be a early in this make bold but based off hammered potential.
01:36:00
He has, like, one of those Comeback player of the year people.
01:36:03
Absolutely no, I Which the baby is a guy who gets 20.
01:36:07
I could see it wouldn't come on over there. A touchdown.
01:36:11
Smart.
01:36:13
Like a sector hours.
01:36:15
Yeah.
01:36:17
No, I could give you a reward.
01:36:18
That Roberts worst version of Seth Roberts.
01:36:22
Josh.
01:36:23
For all we know, Martavis Bryant has been putting in the work.
01:36:25
Then I'm not downing it.
01:36:27
I just Hollywood proud has been putting in training every day.
01:36:30
And you, uh what, you're you're doubting his talents? Yes.
01:36:35
Super counters I am doing it.
01:36:37
Sounds That's exactly I'm doing.
01:36:38
You don't think he was good? I don't think he was as good as you were saying.
01:36:43
What are you talking about? I think one of the best receiver fell on his team younger here for one year.
01:36:51
He was great because he had the best and if receiver honest, even for that one year from Amazon, Antonio Brown didn't play the full year.
01:36:59
No, he did.
01:37:00
He was when he was what you'd Iwas and he was juju.
01:37:05
Worries you drafted him in market was Brian.
01:37:08
I couldn't find a role.
01:37:10
Yes, and then And Martavis Bryant.
01:37:13
Ben when Summer out spec with the Raiders.
01:37:18
Like, went to the Raiders.
01:37:19
Got it from.
01:37:20
But yet my Davis Brian has potential. He always had.
01:37:24
He always will.
01:37:27
I don't see it.
01:37:28
I don't think I definitely looks one receiver.
01:37:31
I'll see, uh, more seasons.
01:37:34
He's nothing but a number one receiver was 2015 a great year.
01:37:37
2016 suspension.
01:37:39
27th grade is what? He's 28.
01:37:43
Yeah, all right.
01:37:46
He could be maybe a number three guy.
01:37:47
I guess you could start.
01:37:48
Maybe on depending on team.
01:37:50
But you're hiding love too much, I think.
01:37:52
Just maybe in number three, you probably said that Darren Waller to I Yeah, but Darren Waller also, first of all, I'm not always right, Michael.
01:38:03
Darren lines the same thing.
01:38:06
The only Waller was actually amazing last year.
01:38:08
And yeah, you proved me a lot of people wrong, but I'm not seeing mark table.
01:38:12
Right.
01:38:13
First of all, it was Brian, as I said before, did not have an addiction.
01:38:17
Martavis Bryant to use energy self that was bigger than football.
01:38:22
He smoked weed.
01:38:23
The NFL didn't allow it, and now he still probably does smoke we.
01:38:27
But now it's legal.
01:38:28
So doesn't it? Makes no difference.
01:38:29
That's really nothing has changed because he's never been.
01:38:34
He has never been suspended for a non lead based.
01:38:37
Okay, Josh.
01:38:38
But that might And I'm talking about still on the field.
01:38:44
He was a stud.
01:38:46
That's what I'm saying on the field, I don't think you are.
01:38:49
That's where we disagree.
01:38:51
I the solid maybe starting caliber receiver, maybe.
01:38:56
All right, Yeah, let's go to not really any debate or anything but an update from former New York Giants quarterback Eli Manning or retiring former Q B e Y medics number 10 during the 2020 season.
01:39:15
Is that happened for Adam Schefter? Manning will be the third old Miss Player to have their jersey retired, joining his father, Archie Manning at 18 and Chucky bullets at 38.
01:39:28
All right, we'll have a debate whether he knows it or not.
01:39:32
I didn't deserve underworld pick.
01:39:35
Of course he does.
01:39:37
Yeah, right.
01:39:38
Yeah, you've always got it.
01:39:40
Okay, let's look.
01:39:41
Come on.
01:39:43
Was one of the top if you have thought so.
01:39:45
No, not this.
01:39:47
When Alan I know, but no.
01:39:51
All right, let's go to.
01:39:54
But what to O K C ah mahn trip Ertz is that he would be open to joining the thunder here.
01:40:01
Orlando If they signed him, I wouldn't.
01:40:05
He sucks.
01:40:06
Amman Shumpert.
01:40:09
He's the second best.
01:40:10
Probably out there now he's 90. ***.
01:40:13
He's a J R. Smith. Obviously.
01:40:16
Number one.
01:40:17
Who's number two? There is a bunch of players.
01:40:20
Iman Shumpert, Camel.
01:40:21
Does he now like 80 numb skin? But he's his old boy.
01:40:26
Um, he's he was not that good.
01:40:28
To begin with, I would not have elections 29.
01:40:31
But no, I would never signed the guy.
01:40:33
Absolutely not.
01:40:35
No, no, he would be.
01:40:38
No, no, just no.
01:40:42
All right, let's go.
01:40:43
The topic that Josh is a fairly very, very happy to go to.
01:40:47
Uh, have your arreaza is bound up now in there.
01:40:51
But we'll Trevor, a reason.
01:40:54
Opted out of participation in the Orlando restart, committing instead of what visitation put his son her wounds.
01:41:06
I really thought to this And Cristoforetti Strache.
01:41:09
Did you like going thoughts on this? I don't have any thoughts.
01:41:13
This is not what I was talking about.
01:41:15
Ah, uh, So what happened? I'm sorry.
01:41:20
I kind of zone out.
01:41:23
I believe he's a will be with the boy.
01:41:26
Her for the rest of this is Oh, yes.
01:41:30
Wow, He's all right.
01:41:33
Now here's a matter when using it doesn't matter.
01:41:35
This is better.
01:41:36
Herbie's a bad hands is it may be a player that's not going to see Uh, could you know other people could do that? Of course, the people that this is not the reason why is not because of recycling.
01:41:50
Who's the other guy? There's another guy.
01:41:51
Jobs.
01:41:52
Birdsong isn't for the Wizard. She's not going.
01:41:54
Ah, that that's socks.
01:41:55
Well, that that runs.
01:41:58
So yeah, this is not like the first NBC that hurts their chances. A line.
01:42:02
I was kind of relieved. Visits.
01:42:04
You see who again with the finals? What? No, I think I felt that if they could have impossible native Laos, we're leaving for them to get there, you know? Yeah, I guess.
01:42:19
Let's go to ah, somebody who will get signed if they'll be going to the Kings with the NBA's resumes per ship, it's Corey Brewer.
01:42:29
Yeah, give him coming.
01:42:30
Move on.
01:42:31
I think I can do to stop it, but I think we've got a couple more for, like a rundown.
01:42:38
Okay, that the MBA has hired two time NBA champ The leak rose at veteran nb a front office.
01:42:45
Remember? David Boon to positions as vice president of basketball operations? Never heard of him.
01:42:53
I got the showing interest in Patriots star guard Joe's tooty.
01:43:00
Per I saw that on Instagram Albert Breer.
01:43:04
Yeah.
01:43:05
Uh, you can ask her book to treat for two if their guards that our in house struggled, he was just lost.
01:43:13
Start guard Brandon Brooks to a tour to kill it.
01:43:18
Yep. I mean, this is what I suggested.
01:43:20
One.
01:43:21
Brooks went down.
01:43:22
Clearly, I said, making called Joji New England for Joe.
01:43:24
Tony, this is what they're doing.
01:43:25
I think it's a great move because the Eagles do not have any guards in house.
01:43:29
I think it is anything close to starting caliber, so Yeah, absolutely.
01:43:32
So that's just before.
01:43:33
So the only reason why don't have thoughts on this The only reason the only reason why I don't have thought this is because I talked about this in depth bowel.
01:43:45
Well, one of the books were down a week ago or so.
01:43:48
So All right, so is your thing with Kim doing that.
01:43:52
He remains the betting favorite for the Patriots.
01:43:55
No, it is.
01:43:56
That is an opinion that I have.
01:43:58
I believe I would rather have Cam Newton be my starting quarterback next season over Philip Rivers.
01:44:05
This is a personal opinion that I have, as you can see now, there on the banner, Michael Michael just added in his own quote of the end, Yes.
01:44:18
According to me, Josh is insane because Josh, there is a right.
01:44:25
What the heck to sell stuff.
01:44:28
You can't make any point before explaining what just happened right there.
01:44:32
I like Teoh lead back on my chair and actually, yeah.
01:44:38
Oh, so I'm still doing a very surprised I can't.
01:44:45
That is that SL and Phil, Britain's top 10 Clerical Hollow will is no way.
01:44:55
All right, you might have to have the horse story like I think he is electric.
01:44:59
I think he is.
01:45:02
Josh, can you agree that you put him to low? No, I think I might even let you talk.
01:45:08
Well, I think he was the worst right.
01:45:12
He was the war starting quarterback in the entire NFL last season.
01:45:19
Without question, he was worse.
01:45:22
Canute was also hurt.
01:45:23
I would I would not want Kim because my start, but I would rather of Cam.
01:45:28
Then Philip Rivers, swollen Rivers is old, he's washed up.
01:45:31
He was God awful last season, and I don't think that this says anything, does anything for the Colts.
01:45:39
I would have rather whatever.
01:45:41
What? Something in an injury prone player he addressed.
01:45:45
Lost Andrew.
01:45:46
Look how high you get a guy that's pretty much Andrew Look, and I would see anything like Andrew luck.
01:45:51
He gets hurt a lot.
01:45:53
Well, why did this have a guy who has won two years of the tank and and what came second in picks last season? First, well, feel like forever things against her? But it would have been bent.
01:46:05
I told you last year.
01:46:07
I heard you should've benched him for Tyronn Taylor.
01:46:10
Cold Murder.
01:46:11
So is going to do an excellent job with the Colts because and as any quarterback would especially quarterback of his caliber in his talent, Eddie, a quarterback, would with that supporting cast, which is probably the best supporting cast that I have.
01:46:33
You would thrive so much more in that system.
01:46:40
You don't think with Dr Warren Frank.
01:46:42
Reich system in Indianapolis, as you just say, a great offensive line, a grass delete.
01:46:47
Philip Rivers has the best point. Can the NFL.
01:46:52
But remember Mahomes? Philip Rivers? Probably best offense of lying.
01:46:56
The NFL.
01:46:57
Yeah, but that's that's the best.
01:46:58
The number one thing with supporting cast Yeah, that's not receiving corps is okay at best, he has jacket.
01:47:04
I feel saying God is great back.
01:47:08
No, no.
01:47:09
And he's one of the better backfields in the NFL.
01:47:12
I just said, Yes, he is the best ally in the NFL.
01:47:17
Oh, you like the lumber? Doesn't have to worry.
01:47:19
Beds.
01:47:20
Yes, three.
01:47:21
He has three.
01:47:22
Confused.
01:47:23
Really? Well, right again, It's a good tea.
01:47:25
It's a great team.
01:47:26
My issue is the quarterback. Visioning iPhone.
01:47:28
Rivers is not good enough anymore to do anything.
01:47:31
Why he walked here all get here years.
01:47:39
Two years ago, he was fine last.
01:47:42
There's falling off a cliff, and there's what Rivers did last year.
01:47:46
He was really, really, really bad.
01:47:52
I mean, he was, I'm telling you, he was a he did not look like a quarterback that I would want.
01:47:57
Period.
01:47:59
Cam Newton is a guy that yes, we have not seen play at full health in a while, and that is obviously a red flag.
01:48:07
But Frank Reich system a great offensive line the last time we did see 1/12 which is also the same time we saw Philip Rivers, who has been a full of whole time playing a high level same time.
01:48:24
Okay, right.
01:48:25
So where he's going Day emergency here say that the team that almost beat one of the better teams they soon or a while and what almost one of vision against them.
01:48:41
He almost beat the Chiefs.
01:48:43
They almost one west years.
01:48:46
Yes, they did.
01:48:49
Hey, you know, just like a pulling drop off Fall off.
01:48:53
Didn't like, fall off a cliff.
01:48:54
I mean a lot for bridges at that age where, yes, you can be dio Josh is contrary there.
01:49:00
The time bridge is not a privilege, not as much washed up.
01:49:06
No, because it's different from my work.
01:49:10
Full of reversed Drew Brees and Philip Rivers, Drew Brees has been the better player, their entire careers, so that's not even fair.
01:49:19
You have Tom Brady and Drew Brees air here.
01:49:21
Philip Rivers, for his whole career has been around here.
01:49:23
Compared those guys compared to those guys you're tryingto along the same competition goes to have a tear knowing he was never he was never right.
01:49:34
Reasons level.
01:49:36
What's true? Brady embraces best quarterbacks in the NFL.
01:49:40
So, like there are the two best.
01:49:43
But they are both very, very good thing.
01:49:48
Then they were to this right? Rivers Waas nine or 10? No.
01:49:54
Are you kidding me? Are better than Aaron Rodgers? Better than Peyton Manning? You know, one of the riders? Yes.
01:50:02
Well, you had Cam Newton was at his peak valued Andrew Luck, who was just coming into his own.
01:50:06
You had help me out here, Luke.
01:50:07
You had Riverhead.
01:50:09
Rock Burger was better.
01:50:10
Eli Manning threw libido, drew up.
01:50:15
I said Angela Russell Wilson Drew lock.
01:50:21
We are we talking about this past season? No.
01:50:24
Were saying in there. Primes.
01:50:25
Oh, it deprives.
01:50:27
No filter is better than Angela, but and And Philip Rivers right now was the ninth best.
01:50:36
You know, he's right now. He is.
01:50:38
I'm telling you, I put him to I think I said maybe I'm gonna say now I did put him to I and I think I put him too low.
01:50:45
I put him.
01:50:46
Where did I put him when we look exactly? Airport 24.
01:50:49
I heard on 24.
01:50:50
Let me look.
01:50:51
See the guys I had behind him. I'll tell you, if I would change it.
01:50:53
I had behind my Travis Key Staffer James Tutino.
01:50:57
Kinnaman, I think.
01:51:00
Goodbye, Herbert.
01:51:01
Derek, our borough Kyler Lockie.
01:51:03
I have them. Oh, higher. Yeah.
01:51:05
Um, yeah, I think that's the right spot for him.
01:51:09
I think it's he's just He is not a good quarterback anymore.
01:51:15
Cam Newton. Yes.
01:51:16
The last time we've seen him at full health wasn't gets amount of time ago.
01:51:19
But even like the last time we saw camp fully healthy was much, much better than last time.
01:51:28
All right, what's the last thing you said? The very last thing last time we said can be unhealthy was what? The beginning of 2018 season, where he was putting up M V P caliber numbers and all right, so once again, I'm gonna go back to this.
01:51:43
Philip Rivers almost beat the one of the best.
01:51:47
I'm not talking of the teams performing Allah, one of the best performing players on a team ever.
01:51:55
I think it's fair to say, was passion bounds in 2018 out of that school? It's not.
01:52:01
He almost beat him after the A C witnessed.
01:52:04
I'm not disagreeing with, you know, I'm very and very beaten Aaron.
01:52:09
And then he went into another really good team, another up and coming team with another rising star, and no one could figure out the slippery and shaky Lamar Jackson went to M and T Bank in the playoffs with that fan base with that Poile fan base.
01:52:28
They've been lost at home in a very long time in the plant. That's untrue.
01:52:32
That isn't true right now, but it's just not a good argument.
01:52:36
Every I am pointing is my buying.
01:52:38
Pointed is that he wanted game and he went and 70 Bank Stadium and one that you beat the chiefs of again.
01:52:47
But are you gonna ignore the fact that the last time we saw came beautifully healthy? We weren't about teams here candy and was six and two can it from sound? Kidman was six and two in healthy he got injured in the game.
01:52:59
He was six and two at full health.
01:53:02
Then, when he got injured is what he started playing poorly but a full health.
01:53:05
He was six and two, and not only in the become position in the top of the everyday conversation.
01:53:14
So you want about teams? Okay, lets on my team.
01:53:17
The Panthers were incredibly good before Cam got hurt, even though he played through it.
01:53:21
Cam was hurt for the rest of that season when they started that collapsed and for help six into in the NFC South with the Saints in his division.
01:53:31
He was competing with them for that division, and the Saints were pretty good that year, right? I would rather have Cam Newton and Philip Rivers has my starting quarterback in 2020.
01:53:45
See? It's That's right.
01:53:48
Okay, but all right, let's go to Ah, quick addition of score center with so, uh, things from NASCAR and a couple of scores from soccer.
01:53:58
So let's start off with Syria. A.
01:54:00
It was you, Aventis vs Bologna.
01:54:03
It was a to no win for the event Is Balad played less A, which was a four worldwide for Moorad.
01:54:10
It was a one rubs row between four Oriente Ed Bruske Yah! And then in the Premier League, it was Manchester City versus Burghley.
01:54:20
And it was a five nil win for Manchester City.
01:54:22
And I'm sorry, but they're, uh you go.
01:54:27
There you go now.
01:54:31
All right.
01:54:32
That it was too Draws in the league a first struck with the Guardians versus Granada and Nil Nil.
01:54:38
And that Villa Riel vs Sevilla.
01:54:42
It was a 22 draw.
01:54:43
There it lead to it was his second league, Mr between Exeter and Choke and Colchester 31 would for Exeter Northampton be sheltered.
01:54:55
Have three nothing in the second leg.
01:54:58
So it's Exeter City at Northampton.
01:55:01
Um, advancing in the second leg lead to and then finally unmasked color.
01:55:06
It was riot.
01:55:07
They blame me in number one.
01:55:11
Ricky sign House Junior in two a Barilla It three that he had would at four Edward Jones in fifth Ah, at the NASCAR Cup series at Talladega Speedway.
01:55:26
That's it for score center catches back tomorrow with more scores.
01:55:31
All right, all right.
01:55:33
I got thought to the minute and City Burnley game because that's the first game the Premier League were like it was kind of more of Ah, quiet return.
01:55:43
It was either one.
01:55:44
Nothing or 00 at halftime for most games.
01:55:48
03 Nothing at the half this game if Burnley would have beaten Man City or tied.
01:55:55
I believe that Liverpool wins at Crystal Palace.
01:55:57
Liverpool was the premier Li.
01:55:59
Will her primarily man city prove we still have some left? And don't get me wrong.
01:56:04
Liverpool's gonna probably, uh, killed, killed a pregnant, but they're still anything like not wanted forever.
01:56:14
By the way, Liverpool, what is it like Liverpool at Tina's? Just not wanted forever.
01:56:19
That's like finally really, really good.
01:56:21
They have never won a Premier League title, right? All right, Um but right.
01:56:28
Remember, please, that this is the first glimpse of, like, back action back hope we're gonna get more scoring.
01:56:39
The game's I called so far it was three.
01:56:41
Nothing, man City.
01:56:42
That was like it was so like a boring game.
01:56:45
Them there was like a penalty.
01:56:47
It wasn't like, really phone call.
01:56:48
It was 00 and then I believe it was what it And then it was 11 three game cycle.
01:56:54
And I'm gonna tell you this right now, the 1100 game are much more entertaining.
01:56:58
Three nothing and stuff.
01:57:01
Side point.
01:57:02
What it is we're not actually.
01:57:03
I've been getting into, like, the big all right.
01:57:08
Now we have And don't Don't put Thea, I don't Don't put the ticker up.
01:57:15
I won't.
01:57:19
What? Michael taking you way have a big, big, big anything in exactly one week before that.
01:57:30
This is the ass when they're all, uh, making his way for the interview recorded anything so sometimes we were saying, Oh, you know, go the and I got this interview driver looked like I find, like us.
01:57:41
And in return, I got a couple interesting this interview, you guys, the viewers got for us.
01:57:49
We want a competition, vice.
01:57:52
That SportsCastr ran in the month of May.
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01:58:09
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01:58:13
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01:58:15
No, not pm Eastern time on June 26 Bob Costas of NBC Sports and everything I love it when you call the Olympics called.
01:58:24
You know, we're asking you for anything he did that used.
01:58:37
But still, he's one of the greatest broadcasters.
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01:58:48
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01:58:52
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01:59:01
I don't speaking for World Michael moved here.
01:59:04
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01:59:10
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01:59:13
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01:59:24
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01:59:25
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01:59:36
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01:59:37
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01:59:49
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01:59:52
Bob Costas on the next.
01:59:54
Yeah, yeah, yes.
01:59:55
So what I'm gonna do is every single day, I'm gonna have put up with my on the instagram story, but are we're gonna have on the instrument story like questions were constantly every single day leading up to then, And I just, you know, we'll see all the answers, but well, I'm asking me, trying to interview we're gonna pick and choose a couple questions that we're gonna ask him.
02:00:19
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02:00:22
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02:00:28
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02:00:31
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02:00:32
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02:00:33
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02:00:35
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