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uh, to give you our ideas, our thoughts.
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Um, a lot of stuff has already come up over the last couple weeks.
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We're gonna try to ask the moral specific, pointed questions about the bubble.
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And, um Let's see.
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You know what? What, uh, do you think we love to hear your thoughts? Ah, I will be joined by Johnny right there for l.
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A peach basket.
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Um, for those you that No, no, we are a website dedicated covering the Los Angeles Clippers in Los Angeles Lakers.
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The two best basketball teams in the association, at least before the season stocked.
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Um, you know, we've had a lot of conversations about what teams are gonna be like when they get back.
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What's it gonna look like? Um, are the Clippers and the Lakers still the Clippers and the Lakers? Um, we won't know.
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We don't know. I have no clue.
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There's a lot of reasons to think that they won't be the place.
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There's are the teams that we remember.
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Um, but, you know, there's some reason to think they might be, um we've been talking about that specifically over the last couple of weeks.
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Um, today they mentioned we're gonna focus just on the MBA bubble.
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Um, interestingly, we're really gonna talk about this.
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Probably kill a little bit of time waiting for Johnny to join me.
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Um, yeah, The bubble is apparently the way, uh, ******y.
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Dr.
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Fauci has said it should be.
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He's kind. Interesting.
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Um, it's neat as an MBA fan to know that the NBA's setting the standard for what the NFL should be following her.
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Ah, Major league baseball.
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They didn't look like their season going to start anytime soon, so it's kind of encouraging.
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But the more I unwrap, you know, the bubble, the more I take a look at the rules, the more I take a look at, um, uh, kind of a process about it.
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Um ah, the less excited I am for it, You know, I gotta be honest.
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Um, I want basketball back as much as anybody, but I want it back to where? Remember it, You know, with fans and with high fives and, uh, with bedlam when somebody takes and makes the last shot, we're not gonna have a lot of that.
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Um and I'm just not sure what it's gonna look like.
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Do you All remember when this whole pandemic started? We all got shut down The N B, I think was the MBA and maybe was turned around, remember? But they wanted to do Ah ah, horse tournament.
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Um, in a cynical it sound like a neat idea.
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You know, we all play worse.
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We could all kind of relate.
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Um, but, you know, when that idea turned into, uh, you know, when it was executed, I just kind of itself fell hard.
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It just wasn't fun to watch.
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It wasn't.
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Ah, wasn't basket boy.
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One of these guys were clanking shy to just, you know, I felt like I could have at least competed.
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You know, uh, with some of those MBA players at horse.
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And I'm afraid I think the worst case scenario, obviously, a lot of worse things could happen.
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But one of the worst case scenarios about this n b a bubble is that it's just not fun to watch.
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And, um, that's gonna be rough, you know, because here we are, You know, all of us, eh? NBA fans, there's 13.
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Do you watch and thank you.
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Imagine here because you're a fan of the MBA, and you wanna watch basketball.
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But I'm just not convinced that it's gonna be the same level basketball that we're used to.
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Um, we're already about five minutes into this.
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I don't like these things to go to too long.
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Um, so hopefully Johnny will join me, but I'm gonna go in Egypt right into, uh, the topic of conversation.
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Um, and I'll give you my thoughts.
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Hopefully, Daniel, join and give us hiss.
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Um, first thing I wanted to share is every one of the 22 teams have been invited to Orlando have been given a do***ent 200 plus pages long full of rules and regulations, policy and processes and things you've got to do and things you can't dio.
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Um, it's pretty daunting.
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Um, I want to highlight just a couple of them.
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I don't want to go to a lot of detail, but there are a lot of rules.
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Ah, you can't play, uh, doubles ping pong.
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You can't spit or ah, you clear your nose.
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Which is actually the wording in the do***ent, uh, during the game, which is a really weird way.
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Say it.
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Um, Johnny just joined.
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I'm gonna go ahead and, uh, see if I can't yet invite him to join me.
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Now, Um, thank you again for all you that are watching.
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Um, So anyway, we got a lot of rules, and it really begs the question.
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You know, everyone I'm gonna follow now.
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The MBA obviously had this in mind, too, you know, because there are a ton of rules.
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I didn't even go through your half of them.
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It's 100 plus page do***ent.
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Um, but somebody's gonna break a rule.
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Somebody's gonna leave campus.
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Somebody's gonna come back.
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You're allowed to, um, you are allowed to leave the bubble.
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You're allowed to come back, but then you're in attending quarantine, and you've got a test positive apartment negative twice before you're allowed to come back.
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So there is a big reason.
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Ah, a lot of motivation to not break these rules.
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Johnny, welcome.
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How are you? Good.
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How you doing? Right on. I'm good.
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We're just just getting started.
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Um, what? We're talking about it. The rules.
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And I didn't rattle off a whole list of because I don't want to bore anybody do that.
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But we know that there are a lot of rules and the rules are there to keep the players safe, Which a lot of respect for that.
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And again, I mentioned Dr Fauci said, This is the way we should do it so that that's great.
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But the MBA understands that people gonna break these rules.
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So they set up an anonymous hotline, and I'm calling it the snitch line.
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A lot of the people, I'm not calling it the one calling it.
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A lot of people call it, but that's kind of what it is.
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And the first question I want to ask you, and I just kind of want to kick this around cause a lot of people make fun of it.
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A lot of people called out who? The first person who's gonna over who the first player is gonna take advantage of that by snitching on a player on an opponent.
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So I gotta ask you, Is that okay? I understand why the MBA set that up? Uh, I get it.
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There's a lot riding on this that you got to keep the players safe.
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But snitch hotline.
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I mean, do you have a problem with that? And do you think it's possible it's gonna get abused? I mean, in the general sense.
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I don't condone snitching, but I mean, if it's going to keep the league of floated for it by telling people keeping it, I'm calling somebody out.
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It's gonna keep the league going because there's gonna be that person's gonna leave the cord, and we're gonna be able to play more games than I'm kind of for it because I'm getting less and less excited about right, the the rules and everything because, all right, I can see you getting canceled quick as more positive test coming.
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So that can kind of that kind of curb the positive tests then.
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I'm kind of Ford in this case and for the players going that's going to view this. It's Chris part.
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We all know it's critical, right? That's the first and only know I shouldn't say.
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Only that's the first thing that came up and they came up over and over again.
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Chris Paul is known to take every advantage afforded to him uh, what he does.
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Ah, he talks.
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The right amount of trash will give you the right amount of elbow.
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Ah, he'll do just the right amount of things to ah, you know, to fly under the radar to get advantage on.
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That's what that's what ah vets do.
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And Chris Paul the veteran, Uh, but man, I I don't know man through this happen and he does that.
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Can you imagine the fallout? I just think it's, you know, it's a slippery slope, you know? I don't know, but But I'm with you. I agree.
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At the end of the day, it's positive.
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We want to keep the player safe on.
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We want to keep the games going, so ah, it's gonna happen.
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It is what it is.
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Um, the other thing.
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It's not a rule, but it's a process.
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It's a decision the MBA made.
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There's 22 teams come in the top eight teams based on record or staying at the nicest hotel.
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Um, and that was done essentially, to give him an advantage.
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Yeah, they play great.
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He's in the top eight teams.
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Record wise, You get the luxury hotel now.
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The other teams aren't staying in dumps or not stay in a Motel six.
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Is there anything other state of nice places? But it's not as nice.
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Right is with the Lakers, the Clippers, the box, the Raptors, the Celtics, the Nuggets, the Jazz in the heat.
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Get so I gotta ask you, um I know you play ball.
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I know you're the why.
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I know you're competitive.
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I am all of those things as well.
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And when I go up against somebody and I know that their stand at that luxury suite And again, I'm not the Motel six I'm in a nice place, but it's not as nice is that they got That motivates me.
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That upsets me.
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Do you see? It is what I think a player like Ah, Damian Lillard.
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We talked a lot about Dame and the Portland Trail Blazers.
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They are in the lower tier there.
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Say, I didn't have I don't have the name of the place that they're saying that, but they're staying at kind of the least new hotel.
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It's not gonna motivate name.
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Oh, yeah.
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I mean, I think they're always gonna look for especially dame underdog, you know, small school guy.
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He's always looking for a way to, you know, have a chip on the shoulder off.
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What kind of like that sort of thing, Always looking for a way to motivate himself.
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So that's just gonna be another thing is going to use toe, get motivated.
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I'm sure players like that, but, I mean, the NBA has to do that.
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You have to try toe, take do home court in some way.
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Right.
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So this is like the This is the equivalent of home hotel advantage.
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You know, you get the you get the nicer hotel.
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I mean, it's it's still an advantage for the teams who don't have to go and play on the road at Staples and stuff just to stay at.
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Ah, you know what a hotel.
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That's a little less luxury.
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You know, I think I think that they'll take that tradeoff for not having a go.
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Yeah, to go play at, ah, travel and play a road stadium.
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Absolutely.
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Let me ask you, because I don't know if this is gonna happen, but again, I'm putting on my dame littler hat now, and I'm thinking like he he's taking it would absolutely, absolutely be a chip on my shoulder.
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And when I shoot that three, you know, toe beat whatever team might be I'm not waving.
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Bye bye.
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I'm saying I want your hotel now because I beat you.
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Does that make sense? If the Blazers, right? If the Blazers let's say they take the A spot and they beat the Lakers, which I don't see having it, but it's possible.
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Don't don't the pledges.
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Then move into the nice hotel.
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That's actually a good point.
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If a high seed gets eliminated, does that doesn't see who beat him? Can they take over that can take over their rooms? That that's that be interesting.
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That being a little extra on the line to play for, you know? Can you imagine? Forget the money.
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Forget the L A B.
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I want the nice.
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I want the sweet.
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I want the nice hotel.
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I think there's so many funky things about this and and that's one of them.
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So I'm with you.
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Yeah, I think it's It's absolutely gonna be a motivator.
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I don't It could be a big motivator, but it absolutely add, you know, Ah, chip on player shoulders like Dame and others.
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Um, all right, next question is something that I read on Twitter.
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A, Um a, uh, former coach put out this thought and it never dawned on me.
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I want to read it to you, he said.
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You get a large number of grown men that are frustrated and don't want to be in a certain place, and they're stuck there for a minimum of seven weeks.
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I promise you things.
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He didn't say Things are going to happen and it won't be a good luck.
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I never thought of that right.
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We've all been sequestered now with our family for months, and things have happened.
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You know, you get frustrated with people with your around at the same time.
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And not only are you around, but there's rules. There's regulations.
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You know that you can play golf, but you can't play with a caddy.
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And we talked about no ping pong we talked about.
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You can't leave the bubble.
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Uh, there's rules Ban, and it's gonna be frustrated and kind of claustrophobic.
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I think, um, and these air, you know, uh, to 22 teams, 17 players.
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That's 374 people, players only, plus count us coaches plus staff.
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And they're all gonna be sequestered.
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Essentially, is that vision? I don't know.
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Man fights, drama.
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Ah, would I can't help but think that would be a great reality TV show.
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Just putting cameras in the hallways of these locker rooms and on these golf courses just to see what these guys are like.
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Uh, there's potential for explosion.
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I mean, do you see it happening to you? Just think that's overblown.
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I mean, it's definitely possible.
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I mean, I'm all for, you know, more behind the scenes like a hard knocks totalization for And this this would be interesting cir***stance, you know, But yeah, I mean, it's going to be It's going to be the ultimate experiment in a lot of different, a lot of different ways, right to see how these guys handle it being.
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I mean, we've all been kind of we've all been locked down, so this is kind of just an extension of that.
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For some of these people, it might be a welcome relief to get away from the people, then quarantining with for a while.
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But then you just quarantining with the news that people were with the new set of problems, you know, right.
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But I think I think it's an advantage for producers like who just like to stay in and play video games and stuff, and for the dudes who like to go out and do more stuff, it's gonna be It's gonna be a little harder.
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But if you're like a dude who Well, I should just go and play like two K and just chill Show the home.
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This is like three.
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It should be easier transition, you know, do this heaven.
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I mean, for that guy, it's heaven.
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You get to chill, you get to play two K.
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You call for room service.
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I mean, it doesn't get any better.
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Um, so, yeah, I think it's really more of the extroverted guy.
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You know, the guys have got to be around people.
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I gotta talk, you know, because you're right.
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I mean, one sense you're out of this sequestered air, you're in another.
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That's with different people, different environment.
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So that's a win.
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But after seven weeks time, an you know it's gonna be rough.
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I don't envision you know, any kind of trauma least that drama that you and I are going to know about, but it's stuff gonna happen that we don't know backs.
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Probably you probably and it.
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And I mean, these guys, they're used to, you know, during the season they travel together, they're used to being in the locker room together you know, So this isn't a huge step from that, but, I mean, there will be the the stuff that comes with being together for a longer period of time.
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Kind of stuck in that you will see, but yeah.
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I mean, the reality show the MBA.
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You're right. Nb missed out there on. Absolutely.
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It could still happen.
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This is the kind of thing that I think TNT or ESPN should jump on, you know? Ah, man, I pay a little bit extra to see behind the scenes stuff.
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Ah, you know, after the game, follow him into the tunnel.
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And then, you know, one of the things that I ran, I wasn't to talk about this, but there are no showers in any of the arena.
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So the players gonna play, and then they're gonna, you know, go to the locker room, I guess, you know, talk about the game.
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And then after that, in their jerseys, you know, full uniform.
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I assume that you have to walk to the hotel and shower there.
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Just having somebody following there.
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What are they talking about on that process as they encounter each other and bump into each other, I'll be fascinating.
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I'd be a lot of fun and you're right, I think the n b a Mr Shot, but hopefully ESPN or TNT fills that gap and hopefully give us a commission that we deserve for coming up with the idea.
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The last question I had is one that I honestly feel uncomfortable, even bring it up.
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You and I have talked about this a little bit.
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I think it's been a couple weeks now since since you and I have done one of these, but this goes back to something, Lou Williams said.
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Clippers six man.
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Um, and again, I want to read it verbatim because I don't want to get it wrong, he recently said.
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Uh, he wasn't sure if he was gonna play essentially.
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And this is why, he said, Because it looks like we don't care if we do suit up and we're having conversations behind closed doors about not playing, he's saying players air talking about just not playing.
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The MBA has already said they will not penalize players.
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They're gonna get their full salary.
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They choose not to play.
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They could not play. That's fine.
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Uh, which is great.
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I think of the MBA.
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The Williams goes on to say, How much of this platform can we really use? Can we get black lives matter? Patch on her jersey? Cantor, Jersey State Black lives matter.
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Can the courts say black lives better so we can use that platform to the best of our abilities? Honestly, it's hard to call on 50 50 to be honest with you.
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So you know Clipper fans right there, freaked out on understandably so clippers.
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Without Lou Williams, they're not the Clippers.
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Dwight Howard has talked about not playing Dwight Howard without the Lakers aren't the Lakers, and and I do think we're going to see At least a percentage of players are going to choose not to play.
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And so my question for you and, yeah, I ask it, you understanding that you and I probably aren't the right guys, you know, t even comment on this.
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But as fans, we want to see a play.
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But should this even be happening? Lou Williams went on to say, If more black kids or black adults or any adults that are dealing with police brutality of getting killed and we're still outraged, I don't know if it's in our best interest to suit up.
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You had mentioned a couple weeks ago that they could use this as a platform.
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The Williams said the same thing.
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So I love that.
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You know, you keep he he's aligned with you and you brought that up to me a couple weeks ago again, up 200% on for a question.
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But just as a fan, I know we want to see the game.
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But should this even be happening, and if it does, you know, certainly the well, let me ask in the form of a question.
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Should the MBA allow the players to make T to make a stand, however they see fit to do that? What, your thoughts on that? Yeah, I mean 100%.
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So going back to what I said earlier.
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I mean, if any player doesn't want to play for whatever reason, like a health reason for, especially because there's because of social issues and they feel that that them playing takes away from them using their put my former them out in the streets, protesters over like that.
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That's their prerogative.
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And they should not be not before the plane.
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They should be able to to do what they feel is best, right? But like we like, I said, you can.
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You just can also be used a platform.
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I think they should definitely be able to say black Jersey.
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Black lives matter on the core like it's it's important for them, be it.
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So let players speak their mind in a predominantly black league like with strong voices to be able to use their platform.
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But I also think that it's possible to play MBA games and still have the the protest on the social issues on your mind.
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You know, people are capable of knowing that there's injustice and fighting for injustice and also being ableto tune away and watch a basketball game as well, you know? Hey, Lou Williams also mentioned that you know, when you talk about all the good that it could do in terms of, you know, obviously using that platform to to spread the message.
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But he also said we could be a part of the healing, right, so he sees that right.
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But he just doesn't want to distract from the message.
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So what I think will end up seeing is a little bit of both you and I think you nailed it.
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We on on this platform two weeks ago.
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We're going to see a smattering of players not show up, and that's their prerogative.
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And I think it's great and more power to him.
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I'm certainly on board with them not playing, but those that do.
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I think we're going to make take a stand and it'll be pretty.
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I think it'll be unified stance.
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I don't think it will be the Lakers doing something.
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The Clippers in some kind of along the lines of what the MBA did when Kobe past, they took a second violations that took 24 7 violations and every team did it.
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They would see some like that.
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You know, I think will be will be league wide.
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The MBA is gonna not only allow it, but endorse it, encourage it.
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And so it'll be something, you know, that it helps us heal.
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Um, but also kind of reminds us always.
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Every game we watch will be reminded, you know, the things aren't the same, and I think it has to be that way.
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I think it should be that way.
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Um, and again, man, give you full credit because you brought that up.
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I had never even considered you know, that possibility.
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It's something that you said and, um, obviously Lou Williams surgeon.
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So that's a win man for you, that that's everything.
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Well, we we could go and talk about 100 pages and other the rules.
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There's a ton of them.
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If you're basketball fan, encourage you to look at him.
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There are are some honestly ridiculous rules that will likely be broken.
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Um, I think they're right.
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I think the over under on Chris Paul using that call is probably three days ever.
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Take.
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He's got it on speed dial already usually already got in this phone, he's ready to go, right? I think I'd be happy, fun and would be interesting to see if that's about you go place.
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And in Vegas, I would be surprised if it is All right, lots to talk about.
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We're about six weeks away now, probably five.
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Give or take.
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Ah, we're going to do this every Saturday up until ah, the playoffs start thanks to Johnny for joining me where I like peach basket.
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We cover the Lakers who cover the Clippers and thank you to all of you joined again.
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I'm still getting the hang of this thing, man.
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I'd love to call you out by name when I see you pop in.
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But I don't see everybody popping in.
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I just see the total.
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I figure this out over time, but I know a lot of you were joined and a lot of you are still on with us and thank you to you.
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Um hopefully is we get more accustomed to the platform will bring more you in. We'll ask.
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You know, we want to hear your questions and we want to take him.
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These are our thoughts we love to hear from you.
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We're like peach basket where? The voice of the fan.
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And it's important for us to hear from you.
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Uh, so that's everything.
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Thanks, Johnny.
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We'll talk again next week, right? I was right
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uh, to give you our ideas, our thoughts.
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Um, a lot of stuff has already come up over the last couple weeks.
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We're gonna try to ask the moral specific, pointed questions about the bubble.
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And, um Let's see.
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You know what? What, uh, do you think we love to hear your thoughts? Ah, I will be joined by Johnny right there for l.
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A peach basket.
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Um, for those you that No, no, we are a website dedicated covering the Los Angeles Clippers in Los Angeles Lakers.
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The two best basketball teams in the association, at least before the season stocked.
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Um, you know, we've had a lot of conversations about what teams are gonna be like when they get back.
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What's it gonna look like? Um, are the Clippers and the Lakers still the Clippers and the Lakers? Um, we won't know.
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We don't know. I have no clue.
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There's a lot of reasons to think that they won't be the place.
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There's are the teams that we remember.
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Um, but, you know, there's some reason to think they might be, um we've been talking about that specifically over the last couple of weeks.
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Um, today they mentioned we're gonna focus just on the MBA bubble.
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Um, interestingly, we're really gonna talk about this.
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Probably kill a little bit of time waiting for Johnny to join me.
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Um, yeah, The bubble is apparently the way, uh, ******y.
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Dr.
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Fauci has said it should be.
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He's kind. Interesting.
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Um, it's neat as an MBA fan to know that the NBA's setting the standard for what the NFL should be following her.
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Ah, Major league baseball.
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They didn't look like their season going to start anytime soon, so it's kind of encouraging.
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But the more I unwrap, you know, the bubble, the more I take a look at the rules, the more I take a look at, um, uh, kind of a process about it.
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Um ah, the less excited I am for it, You know, I gotta be honest.
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Um, I want basketball back as much as anybody, but I want it back to where? Remember it, You know, with fans and with high fives and, uh, with bedlam when somebody takes and makes the last shot, we're not gonna have a lot of that.
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Um and I'm just not sure what it's gonna look like.
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Do you All remember when this whole pandemic started? We all got shut down The N B, I think was the MBA and maybe was turned around, remember? But they wanted to do Ah ah, horse tournament.
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Um, in a cynical it sound like a neat idea.
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You know, we all play worse.
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We could all kind of relate.
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Um, but, you know, when that idea turned into, uh, you know, when it was executed, I just kind of itself fell hard.
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It just wasn't fun to watch.
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It wasn't.
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Ah, wasn't basket boy.
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One of these guys were clanking shy to just, you know, I felt like I could have at least competed.
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You know, uh, with some of those MBA players at horse.
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And I'm afraid I think the worst case scenario, obviously, a lot of worse things could happen.
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But one of the worst case scenarios about this n b a bubble is that it's just not fun to watch.
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And, um, that's gonna be rough, you know, because here we are, You know, all of us, eh? NBA fans, there's 13.
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Do you watch and thank you.
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Imagine here because you're a fan of the MBA, and you wanna watch basketball.
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But I'm just not convinced that it's gonna be the same level basketball that we're used to.
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Um, we're already about five minutes into this.
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I don't like these things to go to too long.
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Um, so hopefully Johnny will join me, but I'm gonna go in Egypt right into, uh, the topic of conversation.
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Um, and I'll give you my thoughts.
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Hopefully, Daniel, join and give us hiss.
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Um, first thing I wanted to share is every one of the 22 teams have been invited to Orlando have been given a do***ent 200 plus pages long full of rules and regulations, policy and processes and things you've got to do and things you can't dio.
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Um, it's pretty daunting.
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Um, I want to highlight just a couple of them.
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I don't want to go to a lot of detail, but there are a lot of rules.
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Ah, you can't play, uh, doubles ping pong.
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You can't spit or ah, you clear your nose.
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Which is actually the wording in the do***ent, uh, during the game, which is a really weird way.
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Say it.
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Um, Johnny just joined.
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I'm gonna go ahead and, uh, see if I can't yet invite him to join me.
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Now, Um, thank you again for all you that are watching.
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Um, So anyway, we got a lot of rules, and it really begs the question.
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You know, everyone I'm gonna follow now.
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The MBA obviously had this in mind, too, you know, because there are a ton of rules.
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I didn't even go through your half of them.
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It's 100 plus page do***ent.
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Um, but somebody's gonna break a rule.
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Somebody's gonna leave campus.
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Somebody's gonna come back.
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You're allowed to, um, you are allowed to leave the bubble.
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You're allowed to come back, but then you're in attending quarantine, and you've got a test positive apartment negative twice before you're allowed to come back.
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So there is a big reason.
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Ah, a lot of motivation to not break these rules.
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Johnny, welcome.
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How are you? Good.
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How you doing? Right on. I'm good.
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We're just just getting started.
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Um, what? We're talking about it. The rules.
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And I didn't rattle off a whole list of because I don't want to bore anybody do that.
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But we know that there are a lot of rules and the rules are there to keep the players safe, Which a lot of respect for that.
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And again, I mentioned Dr Fauci said, This is the way we should do it so that that's great.
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But the MBA understands that people gonna break these rules.
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So they set up an anonymous hotline, and I'm calling it the snitch line.
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A lot of the people, I'm not calling it the one calling it.
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A lot of people call it, but that's kind of what it is.
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And the first question I want to ask you, and I just kind of want to kick this around cause a lot of people make fun of it.
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A lot of people called out who? The first person who's gonna over who the first player is gonna take advantage of that by snitching on a player on an opponent.
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So I gotta ask you, Is that okay? I understand why the MBA set that up? Uh, I get it.
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There's a lot riding on this that you got to keep the players safe.
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But snitch hotline.
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I mean, do you have a problem with that? And do you think it's possible it's gonna get abused? I mean, in the general sense.
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I don't condone snitching, but I mean, if it's going to keep the league of floated for it by telling people keeping it, I'm calling somebody out.
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It's gonna keep the league going because there's gonna be that person's gonna leave the cord, and we're gonna be able to play more games than I'm kind of for it because I'm getting less and less excited about right, the the rules and everything because, all right, I can see you getting canceled quick as more positive test coming.
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So that can kind of that kind of curb the positive tests then.
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I'm kind of Ford in this case and for the players going that's going to view this. It's Chris part.
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We all know it's critical, right? That's the first and only know I shouldn't say.
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Only that's the first thing that came up and they came up over and over again.
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Chris Paul is known to take every advantage afforded to him uh, what he does.
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Ah, he talks.
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The right amount of trash will give you the right amount of elbow.
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Ah, he'll do just the right amount of things to ah, you know, to fly under the radar to get advantage on.
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That's what that's what ah vets do.
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And Chris Paul the veteran, Uh, but man, I I don't know man through this happen and he does that.
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Can you imagine the fallout? I just think it's, you know, it's a slippery slope, you know? I don't know, but But I'm with you. I agree.
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At the end of the day, it's positive.
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We want to keep the player safe on.
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We want to keep the games going, so ah, it's gonna happen.
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It is what it is.
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Um, the other thing.
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It's not a rule, but it's a process.
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It's a decision the MBA made.
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There's 22 teams come in the top eight teams based on record or staying at the nicest hotel.
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Um, and that was done essentially, to give him an advantage.
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Yeah, they play great.
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He's in the top eight teams.
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Record wise, You get the luxury hotel now.
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The other teams aren't staying in dumps or not stay in a Motel six.
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Is there anything other state of nice places? But it's not as nice.
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Right is with the Lakers, the Clippers, the box, the Raptors, the Celtics, the Nuggets, the Jazz in the heat.
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Get so I gotta ask you, um I know you play ball.
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I know you're the why.
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I know you're competitive.
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I am all of those things as well.
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And when I go up against somebody and I know that their stand at that luxury suite And again, I'm not the Motel six I'm in a nice place, but it's not as nice is that they got That motivates me.
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That upsets me.
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Do you see? It is what I think a player like Ah, Damian Lillard.
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We talked a lot about Dame and the Portland Trail Blazers.
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They are in the lower tier there.
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Say, I didn't have I don't have the name of the place that they're saying that, but they're staying at kind of the least new hotel.
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It's not gonna motivate name.
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Oh, yeah.
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I mean, I think they're always gonna look for especially dame underdog, you know, small school guy.
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He's always looking for a way to, you know, have a chip on the shoulder off.
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What kind of like that sort of thing, Always looking for a way to motivate himself.
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So that's just gonna be another thing is going to use toe, get motivated.
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I'm sure players like that, but, I mean, the NBA has to do that.
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You have to try toe, take do home court in some way.
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Right.
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So this is like the This is the equivalent of home hotel advantage.
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You know, you get the you get the nicer hotel.
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I mean, it's it's still an advantage for the teams who don't have to go and play on the road at Staples and stuff just to stay at.
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Ah, you know what a hotel.
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That's a little less luxury.
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You know, I think I think that they'll take that tradeoff for not having a go.
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Yeah, to go play at, ah, travel and play a road stadium.
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Absolutely.
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Let me ask you, because I don't know if this is gonna happen, but again, I'm putting on my dame littler hat now, and I'm thinking like he he's taking it would absolutely, absolutely be a chip on my shoulder.
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And when I shoot that three, you know, toe beat whatever team might be I'm not waving.
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Bye bye.
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I'm saying I want your hotel now because I beat you.
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Does that make sense? If the Blazers, right? If the Blazers let's say they take the A spot and they beat the Lakers, which I don't see having it, but it's possible.
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Don't don't the pledges.
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Then move into the nice hotel.
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That's actually a good point.
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If a high seed gets eliminated, does that doesn't see who beat him? Can they take over that can take over their rooms? That that's that be interesting.
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That being a little extra on the line to play for, you know? Can you imagine? Forget the money.
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Forget the L A B.
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I want the nice.
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I want the sweet.
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I want the nice hotel.
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I think there's so many funky things about this and and that's one of them.
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So I'm with you.
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Yeah, I think it's It's absolutely gonna be a motivator.
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I don't It could be a big motivator, but it absolutely add, you know, Ah, chip on player shoulders like Dame and others.
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Um, all right, next question is something that I read on Twitter.
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A, Um a, uh, former coach put out this thought and it never dawned on me.
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I want to read it to you, he said.
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You get a large number of grown men that are frustrated and don't want to be in a certain place, and they're stuck there for a minimum of seven weeks.
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I promise you things.
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He didn't say Things are going to happen and it won't be a good luck.
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I never thought of that right.
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We've all been sequestered now with our family for months, and things have happened.
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You know, you get frustrated with people with your around at the same time.
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And not only are you around, but there's rules. There's regulations.
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You know that you can play golf, but you can't play with a caddy.
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And we talked about no ping pong we talked about.
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You can't leave the bubble.
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Uh, there's rules Ban, and it's gonna be frustrated and kind of claustrophobic.
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I think, um, and these air, you know, uh, to 22 teams, 17 players.
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That's 374 people, players only, plus count us coaches plus staff.
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And they're all gonna be sequestered.
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Essentially, is that vision? I don't know.
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Man fights, drama.
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Ah, would I can't help but think that would be a great reality TV show.
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Just putting cameras in the hallways of these locker rooms and on these golf courses just to see what these guys are like.
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Uh, there's potential for explosion.
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I mean, do you see it happening to you? Just think that's overblown.
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I mean, it's definitely possible.
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I mean, I'm all for, you know, more behind the scenes like a hard knocks totalization for And this this would be interesting cir***stance, you know, But yeah, I mean, it's going to be It's going to be the ultimate experiment in a lot of different, a lot of different ways, right to see how these guys handle it being.
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I mean, we've all been kind of we've all been locked down, so this is kind of just an extension of that.
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For some of these people, it might be a welcome relief to get away from the people, then quarantining with for a while.
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But then you just quarantining with the news that people were with the new set of problems, you know, right.
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But I think I think it's an advantage for producers like who just like to stay in and play video games and stuff, and for the dudes who like to go out and do more stuff, it's gonna be It's gonna be a little harder.
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But if you're like a dude who Well, I should just go and play like two K and just chill Show the home.
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This is like three.
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It should be easier transition, you know, do this heaven.
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I mean, for that guy, it's heaven.
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You get to chill, you get to play two K.
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You call for room service.
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I mean, it doesn't get any better.
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Um, so, yeah, I think it's really more of the extroverted guy.
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You know, the guys have got to be around people.
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I gotta talk, you know, because you're right.
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I mean, one sense you're out of this sequestered air, you're in another.
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That's with different people, different environment.
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So that's a win.
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But after seven weeks time, an you know it's gonna be rough.
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I don't envision you know, any kind of trauma least that drama that you and I are going to know about, but it's stuff gonna happen that we don't know backs.
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Probably you probably and it.
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And I mean, these guys, they're used to, you know, during the season they travel together, they're used to being in the locker room together you know, So this isn't a huge step from that, but, I mean, there will be the the stuff that comes with being together for a longer period of time.
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Kind of stuck in that you will see, but yeah.
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I mean, the reality show the MBA.
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You're right. Nb missed out there on. Absolutely.
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It could still happen.
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This is the kind of thing that I think TNT or ESPN should jump on, you know? Ah, man, I pay a little bit extra to see behind the scenes stuff.
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Ah, you know, after the game, follow him into the tunnel.
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And then, you know, one of the things that I ran, I wasn't to talk about this, but there are no showers in any of the arena.
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So the players gonna play, and then they're gonna, you know, go to the locker room, I guess, you know, talk about the game.
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And then after that, in their jerseys, you know, full uniform.
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I assume that you have to walk to the hotel and shower there.
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Just having somebody following there.
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What are they talking about on that process as they encounter each other and bump into each other, I'll be fascinating.
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I'd be a lot of fun and you're right, I think the n b a Mr Shot, but hopefully ESPN or TNT fills that gap and hopefully give us a commission that we deserve for coming up with the idea.
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The last question I had is one that I honestly feel uncomfortable, even bring it up.
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You and I have talked about this a little bit.
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I think it's been a couple weeks now since since you and I have done one of these, but this goes back to something, Lou Williams said.
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Clippers six man.
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Um, and again, I want to read it verbatim because I don't want to get it wrong, he recently said.
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Uh, he wasn't sure if he was gonna play essentially.
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And this is why, he said, Because it looks like we don't care if we do suit up and we're having conversations behind closed doors about not playing, he's saying players air talking about just not playing.
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The MBA has already said they will not penalize players.
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They're gonna get their full salary.
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They choose not to play.
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They could not play. That's fine.
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Uh, which is great.
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I think of the MBA.
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The Williams goes on to say, How much of this platform can we really use? Can we get black lives matter? Patch on her jersey? Cantor, Jersey State Black lives matter.
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Can the courts say black lives better so we can use that platform to the best of our abilities? Honestly, it's hard to call on 50 50 to be honest with you.
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So you know Clipper fans right there, freaked out on understandably so clippers.
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Without Lou Williams, they're not the Clippers.
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Dwight Howard has talked about not playing Dwight Howard without the Lakers aren't the Lakers, and and I do think we're going to see At least a percentage of players are going to choose not to play.
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And so my question for you and, yeah, I ask it, you understanding that you and I probably aren't the right guys, you know, t even comment on this.
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But as fans, we want to see a play.
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But should this even be happening? Lou Williams went on to say, If more black kids or black adults or any adults that are dealing with police brutality of getting killed and we're still outraged, I don't know if it's in our best interest to suit up.
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You had mentioned a couple weeks ago that they could use this as a platform.
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The Williams said the same thing.
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So I love that.
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You know, you keep he he's aligned with you and you brought that up to me a couple weeks ago again, up 200% on for a question.
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But just as a fan, I know we want to see the game.
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But should this even be happening, and if it does, you know, certainly the well, let me ask in the form of a question.
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Should the MBA allow the players to make T to make a stand, however they see fit to do that? What, your thoughts on that? Yeah, I mean 100%.
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So going back to what I said earlier.
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I mean, if any player doesn't want to play for whatever reason, like a health reason for, especially because there's because of social issues and they feel that that them playing takes away from them using their put my former them out in the streets, protesters over like that.
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That's their prerogative.
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And they should not be not before the plane.
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They should be able to to do what they feel is best, right? But like we like, I said, you can.
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You just can also be used a platform.
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I think they should definitely be able to say black Jersey.
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Black lives matter on the core like it's it's important for them, be it.
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So let players speak their mind in a predominantly black league like with strong voices to be able to use their platform.
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But I also think that it's possible to play MBA games and still have the the protest on the social issues on your mind.
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You know, people are capable of knowing that there's injustice and fighting for injustice and also being ableto tune away and watch a basketball game as well, you know? Hey, Lou Williams also mentioned that you know, when you talk about all the good that it could do in terms of, you know, obviously using that platform to to spread the message.
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But he also said we could be a part of the healing, right, so he sees that right.
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But he just doesn't want to distract from the message.
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So what I think will end up seeing is a little bit of both you and I think you nailed it.
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We on on this platform two weeks ago.
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We're going to see a smattering of players not show up, and that's their prerogative.
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And I think it's great and more power to him.
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I'm certainly on board with them not playing, but those that do.
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I think we're going to make take a stand and it'll be pretty.
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I think it'll be unified stance.
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I don't think it will be the Lakers doing something.
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The Clippers in some kind of along the lines of what the MBA did when Kobe past, they took a second violations that took 24 7 violations and every team did it.
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They would see some like that.
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You know, I think will be will be league wide.
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The MBA is gonna not only allow it, but endorse it, encourage it.
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And so it'll be something, you know, that it helps us heal.
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Um, but also kind of reminds us always.
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Every game we watch will be reminded, you know, the things aren't the same, and I think it has to be that way.
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I think it should be that way.
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Um, and again, man, give you full credit because you brought that up.
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I had never even considered you know, that possibility.
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It's something that you said and, um, obviously Lou Williams surgeon.
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So that's a win man for you, that that's everything.
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Well, we we could go and talk about 100 pages and other the rules.
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There's a ton of them.
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If you're basketball fan, encourage you to look at him.
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There are are some honestly ridiculous rules that will likely be broken.
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Um, I think they're right.
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I think the over under on Chris Paul using that call is probably three days ever.
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Take.
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He's got it on speed dial already usually already got in this phone, he's ready to go, right? I think I'd be happy, fun and would be interesting to see if that's about you go place.
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And in Vegas, I would be surprised if it is All right, lots to talk about.
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We're about six weeks away now, probably five.
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Give or take.
00:22:35
Ah, we're going to do this every Saturday up until ah, the playoffs start thanks to Johnny for joining me where I like peach basket.
00:22:44
We cover the Lakers who cover the Clippers and thank you to all of you joined again.
00:22:51
I'm still getting the hang of this thing, man.
00:22:53
I'd love to call you out by name when I see you pop in.
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But I don't see everybody popping in.
00:22:57
I just see the total.
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I figure this out over time, but I know a lot of you were joined and a lot of you are still on with us and thank you to you.
00:23:06
Um hopefully is we get more accustomed to the platform will bring more you in. We'll ask.
00:23:11
You know, we want to hear your questions and we want to take him.
00:23:13
These are our thoughts we love to hear from you.
00:23:15
We're like peach basket where? The voice of the fan.
00:23:18
And it's important for us to hear from you.
00:23:21
Uh, so that's everything.
00:23:23
Thanks, Johnny.
00:23:24
We'll talk again next week, right? I was right
