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Ah, Thursday update here for you as we look ahead to the game.
Restarting, should I say of the NDE season and the games? Some questions starts who were rise just from a big picture perspective about what are some of the issues potentially the Nets are going to run into.
And who are some of the players that are going to step up to fill those roles? So I figured, Let's take a look knocked down a couple of these pins that have risen up here, and some of them, I think, are pretty straightforward.
These air kind of were floating around out there.
We talked about before, along with the ignoring when he's made a couple of appearances on here about what the roster went through and also on the podcast.
We had these discussions, obviously, about what the roster went through in the back end of Kenny Jackett's time as the head coach and how we know from behind the scenes both Kyrie Irving and Kevin Durant strong communication around the fact that they were looking to see DeAndre Jordan starting at the center position, and over time we essentially saw them in pretty much a timeshare.
Now you can go inside these numbers and say, Jared Allen was regressing over the course of the season, not necessarily looking a strong or taking some of the steps forward that you want to see.
But it's a bit of a balance, right? There's a psychological side to it where you think about the fact that he was the starting center of the year prior without any questions.
Now in this second season, obviously a lot of changed around him.
But suddenly DeAndre Jordan was this even split share and then eventually took took over that role in a lot of weight.
So when we when we talk about a few different questions, we think about starting center position to me is not necessarily as big of a.
What will happen here is maybe people would think, and the reason really being is that you have to know if your jock phone where your bread is buttered right, your you know that you have Kevin Durant coming back next year.
You know, the Kyrie Irving is coming back next year.
So you have to really be approaching this in my mind as a situation where what you're saying is, I need to communicate to these star players that I get what they expect to see going into next year.
The side caveat.
So that is, What does it mean for Jared Allen in the big picture? Will the organization as a whole look to hold on to Alan long enough for this next couple of years, toe over Passover? And then maybe he can continue to develop and take over that center role when it becomes apparent to both Durant's and Kyrie that Alan is worthy of being a starting center.
So I don't think it would be a big question.
I think John Jacque Vaughn will start DeAndre Jordan center position.
I think that while you you may not necessarily ah see it all the time on the court, we sent it again time and time again, Doug and myself that Alan is clearly the better option.
You could go inside the rapture ratings.
You can talk about the deficiencies or unwillingness from DeAndre Jordan on the defensive end of step outside the paint at times, but nevertheless, that will be the starting center.
When things get rent up, the only curiosity that you can kind of keep an eye on is well, they look to be preserving some of DeAndre Jordan and not necessarily over using him in those 1st 8 games.
Because, for the most part, expectations will be It's going to be a lot for the Wizards to really overtake one of, Ah, Orlando or the next and get into that, you know, Ah, double elimination, single elimination scenario for the eighth seed.
The only thing that I will say is that will be a little bit focused about.
There's a matter that they probably will play Orlando.
They most likely will play the Wizards as well.
And in doing so, if you could just win both of those games over this eight game stretch, it's going to push the Wizards too far away and again, probably get enough distance between your lead to keep the seventh seed where you'd like to remain and probably just avoid that match up with the Bucks in the first round.
Regards of what you think the outcome is going to be.
Another question that's been floating around there a little bit is who is going to be taking the last shot between Spencer Dinwiddie and Caris Levert, and this will kind of feed into another question that we're looking at as well.
I don't necessarily think that this is as important as it needs to be.
One of the things that you can talk about is go back to last year's playoffs because this is the pre Kyrie and even though, and see Kevin Durant pre Kevin Durant era as well.
Inside of those playoff games as we know, the Nets lose to the Philadelphia 76 ers in five games.
But over that stretch you saw Caris Levert 21 points, five games played, two games started, averaged 21 gave you almost 4.
5 rebounds there. Three.
Assistant Shout came up with a steal per game, also to go along with averaging two turnovers, so might want to clean it up a little bit.
But on the whole over nearly 30 minutes a game, you'll take those results Now.
You did have last year, DeAngelo Russell.
So this is where Spencer Dinwiddie is role is going to evolve, obviously, Russell starting all five of those games, but Spencer didn't buddy in five games.
No starts 26 minutes of action.
So still saw only played three less minutes than D'Angelo Russell, two minutes less than Caris Levert, who started two games.
So realistically, you know you're talking about a guy that saw substantial minutes gave you 14.
5 points, piled up 2.
5 rebounds to go along with an assistant 1/2 as well had 1.5 turnover.
So not a bad job there in terms of protecting the basketball, you know, he already gave you a reasonable sample size last year in the playoffs that show the moments not too big for him.
Now you want to go beyond that. Even.
Let's talk about the fact that when you look inside this season by itself, Spencer Dinwiddie also had to do a lot of the heavy lifting because Carrick Liver was dealing with injuries because Kyrie Irving on Lee played 80 games.
So at the end of the day, when you take a look at Spencer Dinwiddie starting a 49 out of the 64 games that he played in average 31 minutes.
Gave you 20 points.
5 rebounds, gave you nearly seven assists per game to go along with 2.
Those numbers came up a little bit this past year, so he's gonna want to keep an eye on those.
But at the end of the day, the assist to turnover ratio was 2.
5 for the positive, which is another good number to look at as well.
He's already had to be the leader of this team, Remember? Even when Caris Levert was first coming back, he was struggling as well.
He was struggling to find his shot.
His percentages were not there.
Caris Levert played in 39 games, started 25 of them.
But remember those those field goal percentages would sat there.
I will go inside his numbers from this season.
I'm not knocking him, but he's getting himself back into rhythm.
Coming off of that thumb injury, you do have to take a look and remember that this is a player who knocked down 40% 50% 56 31 65.
This is just going back over the handful of games that he played their ah, in the most recent coming up to that final game against the Lakers, excusing.
But beyond that, as we just dial back a little bit here beyond it, you see what we're taking a look and seeing their excuse me some of these other percentage that we talked about with his return to play.
Ah, let's see those three field goal percentage 22 50 40 68 30 50 31 36 38.
Some of those low hanging fruit numbers are really the ones that were diving in on from the Caris Levert standpoint again not to knock him, but just to point out the fact that what you were talking about here is, in fact, a player who was struggling from from the field to get his shot down.
So in those games as well, Spencer DeMann he was carrying a load.
I think that you're going to benefit from one of the five games with a to starts that lover had last season, and then the other piece of this is when you think about who's going to take that final shot while you prefer toe.
Have a Kevin Durant while you would prefer toe, have a Kyrie Irving the beauty in some regards in your we can take those options first, the beauty for the Brooklyn Nets is opposition comes down to match up.
We know that Joe Hair struggled last year in those playoffs, had to work really hard to try to get a shot off, But he is going to be a threat to be knocking down from the perimeter.
Jared Allen when he gets in there. Even DeAndre Jordan.
You want to talk about Garrett Temple on being streaky from the corner? You want talk about Wilson Chandler.
You even want to talk about it. She owes.
It was probably going to see some level of minute share here because you don't have Kyrie Irving there toe play in these games.
So you know there's going to be some mystery for opposition, and specifically, it'll look like, at least as it stands, the Toronto Raptors.
You don't know how those matchups are gonna work for you.
And one of the bonus benefits, too Achy O za, is that he can match up against the Kyle Lowry or a Van Fleet and you're not gonna necessarily come away with those same issues on the defensive side.
Now both teams will probably look toe work switches and get the smaller players into those defensive positions where they're going to be a disadvantage.
But nevertheless, at least in the first round will be some level of balance there for players like that.
So you don't know who is gonna have the hot hand.
And that's really what I think you would expect of all in to do is to just work the system, run the plates, set plays and when.
If it if it falls to Joe Harris, he's gonna pull that trigger.
If it falls to Spencer Dinwiddie, it's going to be his option on.
I wouldn't be surprised if depending on the game to game basis, whoever has the hot hand expect maybe going to say Bulls in your hand make the right basketball play.
At which point I think that cares.
Liver might B'more inclined, potentially to give it up, And I'm not saying that right, Wrong indifferent or Spencer Dinwiddie, who I think thrives on and wants to take those big shots and would be capable of knocking them down.
Got a little bit far a field there on that.
The last piece that we want to talk about here really is Ken Spencer.
Handle that pressure of being the number one coming into this set again, I I don't think he has to be the true number one.
I think the one thing that you'll have to focus on him you talked about it before in the stats.
When you think about the turnovers, he needs to protect the bowl.
If you whether it's the 1st 8 games, were getting into that playoff series, presumably against the Toronto Raptors, he needs to make sure that doesn't make careless plays or careless passes.
One of the things that Doug and I talked a lot about on the podcast down the stretch off what ended up being the remainder of that season back in March was how Spencer Dinwiddie and players across the MBA or are guilty of this.
But just looking for the fouls, right, driving the basket and looking for the fouls.
Now he's done a good job with that, especially late in games of drawing fouls, getting to the line and knocking down at least having opportunities to knock down free throws.
But he can't afford to allow the frustration in the 1st 3/4 to push him into a position of either one of two things.
Trying to go downhill, attacking too hard too often and getting a little bit of sloppy.
And also try outlet and feed his players, his teammates and doing it in a careless way.
Doing it in to loose of a manner where you're not assessing the defense in making sure you don't have those players jumping in your passing lease, that you're communicating with your teammates so that they know if it's a backdoor cut, that's where they're going.
And that's where you're putting the bowl, not they look to fake the back door, cut and pop back out on the perimeter, and you feed it on this on that cut on the back door.
And he's not there, right? We saw some that early in the season as well, even when Kyrie Irving was playing with his players getting familiar with each other.
So in some regards, there's the core guys that are gonna be called on to do the most.
Outside of I'd say DeAndre Jordan, who will more than likely be inserted as the starting center when they come back.
I think that Alan Din, Witty Harris and Levert These are guys that were there last year, so they're gonna have playoff familiarity even if it's only five games with one another, and that should be a benefit to them.
They should be able to feel like, Hey, I know I can rely and trust on these guys.
We have enough of a rhythm, not just for the playoffs the previous year, but these last handful of seasons.
They've all been playing together for three full years.
If you go back to just when Jared Allen was drafted so bad, actually, of benefit to them, they're going to be taking on teams like Toronto, have continuity who have familiarity and obviously who have a lot of weapons in a lot of different positions.
But I really think that this is going to be about an effort by committee.
I think that again Jacque Vaughn is on a stage here where he gets to put his best foot forward and offer up.
Hey, this is how I would be looking to run the team.
This is the sets that I want to use to try to free up.
Specifically, keep an eye on Harris.
Can they manufacture? Looks for him where he has openings? And by the way, if you want to go another caveat.
Another layer deeper beyond the idea of dispenser dimwit, he needs to be the true number one.
I already debunked that and don't think that it needs to be the case.
I think that it's going to deliver and it's going to be dead, witty.
And then it's going to say, Hey, DeAndre, Jordan, you have a ton of playoff experience, by the way, and that's that's valuable.
Call on that, right? You might be a little bit older.
You might not be the same player you were five years ago, but you've been in these games before.
And how can you make sure that the rest of your teammates aren't up is possible with their relatively small playoff experience? But beyond that, remember Joe Harris last year was not doing nearly as much driving to the basket.
He got on the baseline this season much more frequently than we've seen before, and I think that was a big product of when Kyrie went down.
He didn't have Caris. Levert.
There wasn't nearly as much spacing occurring out there on the floor.
So his ability to put the ball the floor even on occasion and drive baseline and get past the defender cut into the lane a handful of times and take some of those quote easy to ZZ looks at the basket.
If you can do that, when you come back into this eight game stretch and then into that first round playoff matchup, then you can start to at least have to have a couple of guys stay home at him, not be able to crowd him out there on the three point line.
And by and large, by the way, most teams are going to accept that.
I'll drive him off the three point line and let him go to the basket.
So if he can take advantage of that and if they can avoid some of that weak side defensive help that rotates over and possibly meets him at the rim, then all of a sudden you get another attribute there that you didn't have from Joe Harris last season.
He may not get as easy or as often looks from the outside.
But if he can pile up 6 to 8 points over the 1st 3/4 inside the Ark, then later in the game, you'll at least have tohave defense's respect, that possibility opportunity.
And if they lack back a little bit and even if they let you drive, then it's going to have to Joe Harris to make the right plays.
Can you get on the interior CIA defender who's watched you come into the lane a couple of times Now the center, the bigs.
We're gonna rotate over, maybe stay at home a little bit and that's going to open up the perimeter for Caris.
Levert for Wilson, Chandler for for Garrett Temple.
These guys on the outside that are three indie guys are going to have some opportunities, and it'll be reliance upon them to then knock down at least a couple of those looks.
And thats what starts to create some mismatches and dictate a little bit of tempo to the defense, as opposed to we've seen.
And this is what they're gonna have to figure out and struggle with when it comes to this.
Return is when you don't have the pure star.
When you don't have the elite Kyrie, Irving or the Kevin Durant, everyone gets to stay at home and it just becomes about defensive matchups.
And that's something, obviously, that a lot of teams could do really well.
Especially the better ones like Toronto, like Milwaukee and even like the Boston Celtics.
You know these teams We're all gonna be hard to match up when you don't have a truly takeover kind of town.
Levert is that? And that's probably again.
Why, when you think about consent, Sir Dim would be the load carrying number one.
I think what Spencer did, what he needs to do is be the leader of the team in a lot of ways.
He needs to be the point guard here and allow Caris Levert toe work off that ball, let him get into his hands, get his dribble on, try to take on defenders, get towards the rim.
But it needs to be the pacing and tempo on the mentality needs to run through Spencer Dinwiddie and then Caris.
Levert needs to build his free Rome and go off because if you're going to win a couple of games in the playoffs this season.
It's going to be around him giving you a couple of monster performances because Spencer Dinwiddie will consistently give you that.
15 16 17 to 23 24 point performs.
You'll live in that area week game in a game out playoff series.
He's going to give you those numbers.
He's going to get to the free throw line somewhere between four and seven times right, eight times, sometimes even up to double digit opportunities.
So if he's giving you that, it's in***bent upon those players around him to do enough to make the defense's respect It.
And that's where Joe Harris, for me, becomes one of the more interesting players.
Toe watch here, because if he can get you double digit scoring consistently, then you start to create problems.
Then things open up on the interior and then DeAndre Jordan, Jared Allen.
They can live on the inside and go to work a little bit.
Get some of those easy high pick and rolls dropping down into the paint, grabbing some of those easy buckets at the rim.
But again, such a small sample size from Jack phone.
It's going to be interesting.
What type of wrinkles he introduces because unfortunately or fortunately, but underneath Kenny Atkinson, the one thing you can say is in game adjustments didn't come quickly enough.
You work those roles to the rims with the bigs and then eventually the defense reaction response to it, and they start clogging that lane.
What do you pivot to DeAndre Jordan, arguably a better passer from inside the paint than Jared Allen? If you can utilize that and find those right outlet passes, you could make the defense react quicker, more early in the game.
And then you can ebb and flow back and forth between the different modes of attack that you want to utilize.
But if you live on that and you're having success for the first quarter and then you die by that in the second quarter now, by time Hafun comes around, you haven't figure out what are the other avenues of success we can have on the offensive end.
So then you spend the third quarter in a murky water.
Who's going to take the lead? How are we going to space things that who's going to be our primary score? And you had to the third quarter, oftentimes in a deficit were still with some level of uncer*****y.
So that's an area that Jacque Vaughn can take.
The reins is the head coach, and hopefully the different players across this roster can also understand.
Wrap their head around a little bit and move forward.
So, listen, Are there questions around this team 100%.
But I don't think that there is confusing quote unquote inside the locker room.
Is it maybe from the outside? Spencer Dinwiddie is as confident a player in the n B A as you've ever seen and by the way, go back to last season.
When Caris Levert talked about that initial gruesome injury that he suffered, he spoke about it to and listen n b a players playing and playing at this level.
Everybody is confident, but he's also a humble, confident.
He said he believes himself believes in the skill set.
It's just on him to do it and take it on.
So don't expect any of these guys to be shying away from these moments.
I think you're going to see a very confident team and also a team that, by and large, is playing with house money they get to sit back and say We know that next year.
Kevin Durant, Kyrie, Irving, right.
This wasn't the year to win, so that can also be a dangerous element as well.
Especially when you take on a team like Toronto who maybe feels like they're trying to prove something.
A year after Kawai Leonard is gone, they want to get back to the Eastern Conference finals, possibly take on the Milwaukee Bucks and say, Hey, you still have to go through us, right? We are still the defending champions here.
So Milwaukee, for all of their success in the regular season, still has to show it out here when it gets into the postseason.
So a lot of things we're gonna be at play here for all of these teams across the MBA and the Nets in a lot of ways, just got to get to walk in there, looses, convey, be fire away and see what happens.
And that's the beautiful part for the Nets, at least in this season. Next year.
That's when the pressure will ratchet up when everybody is healthy.
That's when you're gonna start to see some of that pressure late in the season and into the playoffs when expectations air highest.
Then how do some of these guys respond and react? That being the case, that'll do it for us here on the WG and update right here on SportsCastr, where we are, of course, your official affiliate for all things Brooklyn Nets.
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