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on the planet, but the biggest, brightest and up and coming voices in sports and culture Before we get into today's show, make sure you tell another fan about Laker central dot com.
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What's up? Been a welcome to the show, man.
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How's it going? Ah, I'm doing good, Alex.
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I hope you're doing well yourself.
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We're inching more towards some normalcy.
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Not normalcy, but inching more towards Ah, the N b a season coming back and getting more and more info in regards to what's going on.
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Um, with the season where they're staying, all that's her stuff which will cover.
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But I'm doing good.
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How about how about you Are you doing? I'm good, man.
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I took today off.
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I took tomorrow off which, um, if you're watching this now, tomorrow is Juneteenth.
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So I took the last couple days off, um, to celebrate that me and my wife we were just hanging out, man.
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Yeah, eso since you mentioned Juneteenth, um you know, I know the Kings and a few other teams have started, and the Hawks, I think, were the first team.
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Um that that did it but it looks like they've been giving paid holidays all their employees for some of these franchises for June teeth.
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So, um, you know, I I know of Juneteenth.
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I know you know, the gist of the significance of where it is.
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Ah, but I probably don't know as much as I probably should know about it.
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Um, So I was wondering if we could take this opportunity before we start talking about some more basketball related matters to Ah, just hear from you.
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Ah, as to the importance of Juneteenth and sort of what it means to the black community that that date is commemorated or celebrated or or advocated for Yeah, man.
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So, um, I'll try to keep me and be as basic as possible.
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All right, So everybody in America celebrates July 4th Independence Day, which originally took place in 17. 76.
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Um, but unless you've been under a rock the last 500 years, July 4th didn't apply to black people.
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Um, and so ah, while the country celebrates Independence Day, um, my ancestors were still enslaved when that took place.
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So, um, the fast forward 90 years or so and Lincoln signed the Emancipation proclamation, which, um, essentially in slavery in the United States, It was effective January firsts 18 63.
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But, um, just because the president signed something doesn't mean that it's gonna be enforced around the country.
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And so Juneteenth is essentially the celebration of those enslave people that were down in Texas finally getting the news of the Emancipation Proclamation and union soldiers finally getting down there and enforcing it.
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And so to be clear, we celebrate Independence Day as a country, uh, July 4th, which again took place in 17.
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76 Africans or enslave in Slate.
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Black people did not receive their freedom into January 1st, 18 63.
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And then it actually didn't reach the entire country.
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Texas specifically until 18 65.
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And so we celebrate that June 1918 65.
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Ah, as June teeth, um, more, more black people recognizing it, more of the country's recognizing at a bunch of major companies like truest bank, which is SunTrust on BB and T that they've given up, given the day off to the number of folks.
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And more companies are paying attention to that.
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More people are celebrating it.
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So, um, it's it's when we celebrate Independence says as black people.
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Awesome.
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I think you said it pretty well.
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Um, and I appreciate you sharing that.
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So hopefully for anybody who is part of the live stream that doesn't know the significance of it.
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Um, even for me myself, just, you know, reinforcing kind of the importance of it understands the importance of importance of that date.
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I know the president has a rally that he set up in Tulsa, Oklahoma, which is a very important location to the community as well in terms of historical, um, you know, that's the history behind that location.
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So obviously he's doing the Narcissus stuff that he's always going to do and saying that he's making it more popular.
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But anyways, not this is not a political podcast.
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So we won't really get out that he canceled the rally way for those that don't know.
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Um, Trump is gonna hold a rally down in Tulsa, Oklahoma, Tulsa, Oklahoma is the site of one of the bloodiest mascot massacres of black people in Unite's States history.
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It was a very affluent black town.
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A time and white people got upset that they were blacks of money and burned the town to the ground, killing a number of black people.
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So Trump was gonna hold a rally there, and somebody told him Yes, Probably a bad idea.
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And he could otherwise, but yeah, so you know, Well, and, uh, sorry.
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Big props to ah, anybody who registered for that rally for the sake of just not showing up and orders to show up in protest.
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Uh, I'm in.
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I mean, most of the folks know what may already know, but I'm in Georgia right now.
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And my brother lawn, my in laws, Are I all I here in Georgia and ah, they told me that, like a most like, like the Indian community, like my community itself, I got They were all trying to buy tickets on register online so they could they could sell it out.
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But then they were never planning on showing up.
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So either he would have shown up to a rally with nobody there, we would have showed up to rally where everybody was protesting against him.
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And, ah, I wouldn't be surprised if his folks cops caught some window.
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That and ah, obviously optics are important to him in the administration.
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So, um you know that's a win.
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Getting him to cancel that is a big win for that day, especially it is, man.
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So eso look, we were just talking off line.
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Um, MBA Twitter's been kind of wild and some of it seems be fueled by, uh, the media.
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Really right.
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Like if we've got Kyrie, Irving, Avery, Bradley, Dwight Howard a number of other and be players saying, If we are going to resume basketball, there are some additional things that we want to see take place from the MBA.
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Since they have done that, um, people have made fun of Kyrie.
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Kendrick Perkins and Stephen A.
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Smith have went on the warpath, so to speak, either on social media and or on their relative TV shows.
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And they're criticizing these guys for taking a stand.
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Basically.
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I mean, that's what they're doing that criticizing in particular stand and it's wild.
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I released an article this morning at on Laker central dot com, specifically talking about black media members attacking black athletes.
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Um, and I outlined why I think that is going on, but I don't see what the deal is.
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Um, with with Kendrick and Stephen A or anybody else that's critical of Kyrie Avery Dwight, Whoever is involved in this, um, it seems like they're they're they're attacking them and their attacks are baseless.
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And so now it's went from then be a They agreed to resume the season, Adam Silver said.
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Even though we've agreed N b a and M v p a there still details being worked out.
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Those details are some of what the players right now we're talking about.
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And so it seems like basically an MBA released a memo.
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The seeds is going to resume July 30th.
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People didn't read the fine print and that they said a lot of stuff that will work out.
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And now they're people are ****ting a brick because the players are saying, Wait a minute, this is what we want out of this If we're gonna gonna go forward, Yeah, and I figure probably one of the things that's that's making this a little bit more irritating for the folks who really, really want this.
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He's season to be cancelled.
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Um uh, for whatever motivation is because Florida's had a spike, uh, in infections or at least positive tests, as relates to the Corona virus on and Obviously, that's that's where Florida is in Orlando is where the league is going to be played.
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So to start back at your point, Um, since the n b A.
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Has has really has, you know, worked its way back.
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You know, they initially mentioned that they're gonna bring the league back.
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There's a speculative dates that they had pushed out, that we're in negotiations.
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I think if you think somebody is a few folks on Twitter kind of made it pretty clear, like the every section of this.
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This return to play is like up for conversation until it actually gets finalizing.
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Voted on.
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Um, I think, uh, I think we has a Twitter audience.
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And as fans, we kind of look at these things like, uh, it's me and you jumping on a podcast like, Hey, Alex, you got time today.
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You got time or let's just jump on and do it.
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But, um, fancy to remember, this is a business, and these air, this is not, um this is not something where you could just, you know, hang out with your buddies and figure it out.
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It is something that has contractual obligations to it there, say there's legitimate safety control concerns.
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I know that there was a report out there that players who are like restricted free agents like Jason Tatum are not restricted free agents, but like guys who are going to be restricted free agents.
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Mitch Mitchell? Yeah, I mean, Mitchell, those guys, they're concerned about the insurance in case they get hurt during this process or they get Corona viruses from I got insurance policies for themselves.
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So there's very there many sections of this return to play agreement that both the league and the Players Association are working out.
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Um, but even within those sections, there are many layers to those sections as well.
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Um, and I think like you mentioned, the most prominent conversation right now has been in regards to, um, not so much the return to play because that's pretty much everybody's been vote.
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Everybody is more or less voted that they wanted to go back.
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Um, the main impasse right now seems, and I think game actually just recently mentioned it.
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They know there is a risk to them going back, but what folks need to also accept is it's the risk is no different than us going back to work.
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If I return to my office, I'm taking the same risk.
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That and I don't you know, in my office stomach.
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Hey, we've got this quarantine environment.
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There's all this protocol that you have to follow and everybody else has to follow.
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Um, all of that's all fine and dandy, but there's still a risk that I take for myself and, um, you know it on behalf of my family and self pickup.
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So with that being the case, it's the same thing for N b A players.
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There's a risk for them to as well.
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And so, um, with that being the case, I understand that there's some players that don't want to play even with that risk.
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So that makes sense.
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But you could see that some of the superstar players are also saying in their in their own right, like it's a risk dames at himself.
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It's a risk that I'm willing to take because, hey, he wants her in his money, um, and be maybe he just wants to play.
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There's something else that just want to play right now.
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Whether you make a lot of money, you don't make a lot of money, so that's fine.
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But there's also this layer of, um, specifically in Kyrie situation and the folks that he represents, Dwight every Bradley where they don't want to do just to return, to play right they want to do if they're going to return to play.
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They want to use this moment as maximum leverage.
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And the goal of that maximum leverage is to force the owners, um, to, uh, force the owners to invest in the communities.
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One thing I think that we talked about a lot on this podcast is that, um, anything that an athlete can do for his community is great.
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You know, donating backpacks, laptops, rebuilding, schools, rebuilding, you know, um, recreational, you know, parks and stuff like that.
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That's all wonderful stuff.
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But at the same time, this money and this equity financial equity is coming out of the athlete himself.
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It's coming out of his own pockets.
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And while philanthropy is not something, should that should ever be compared, we're talking about millionaires giving money out of their pockets compared to billionaires who can give money out of those pockets.
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Um, and I'm a big advocate that everybody should try and give money if they can.
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If they can't protest itself.
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Like as relates, the black lives matter movement.
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But I also agree with what the players are saying where we can use this moment to force these billionaires to invest in our company, invest in our communities, Right? Um, the one example I'll give you is no.
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Steve Ballmer's been doing a lot of stuff, Um, in regards to that, like because l A and, uh, more Laker fans.
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So we get to hear it from all the ESPN L A.
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Folks that are on Ballmer's payroll but we get to do is we got to see that bombers rebuilding backboards, and he's doing all these programs for kids and all.
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That's her stuff. That's wonderful.
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That's great.
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Uh, so I went out and gave backpacks to kids in Moreno Valley and all that's her stuff.
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That's all great.
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But at the same time, all that stuff has Clippers branding on.
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So while the philanthropy is great, are you doing it because you're genuinely invested in the communities? Are you doing it because you're trying to raise the profile of your team? And that's the part that I think I read in Avery Bradley and Dwight Howard.
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They're trying to change that.
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They don't want these.
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They don't want, um, teams like the Lakers, Clippers and all these other teams.
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They don't want them to just invest in the community as a purpose of raising the profile of your team, right? The point of investing in Inglewood is not so that you can then say the Clippers helped out Inglewood.
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So now Inglewood resident should be fans of the Clippers.
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That's not the point.
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The point of investing in these communities is to raise the level of, you know, reduce the level of inequality that there is between one community versus another, one neighborhood versus another.
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And I think that's the message that Kyrie and Avery Bradley all these guys are trying to put together.
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Um, well, and let me add this so people are clear.
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Um, during the pandemic, US billionaires have added 408 billion to their fortunes.
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We say that one more time during the pandemic, where there are 40 million Americans, unemployed billionaires, United States billionaires have added 408 billion to their fortunes.
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Steve Bomber, that you just mentioned, has added four billion and like, three months to his network, which I thought I was like 68 billion.
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The players are telling the billionaires who aren't losing money, their franchises may be losing money, but there other companies are clearly making money.
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They're saying to them, the league is 80% black.
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We now need you to invest in the community that we make as black players that we come from.
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And then the MBA as a brand wouldn't be what it is without us, it would not be.
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You're right.
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So we're gonna put our lives on the line.
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We're gonna put our families at risk.
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You need to do more than just pay our salaries that we're gonna be quarantined and locked down and have restrictions you need to doom.
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Or specifically, when there black people being killed in the streets at the hands of police officers.
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You all need to help us fight that if you're going to make money off of us.
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Yeah, I absolutely agree with that tonight.
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You know, the way that I know another conversation that's been happening on Twitter A lot is, you know, are using social platforms and stuff like that effective right? Like how much? How much work can you actually get them? And I'm not gonna rehash the whole thing.
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We talked about how noisy it is to promote ideas on Twitter and Instagram in all those different places, because people twists that information for their own agendas and their own purpose.
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But one of the things I think folks need to really try to under or, you know, one thing that I on I approach.
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This is my approach when I come to thinking about why these negotiations air good.
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You know, every time somebody talks about police brutality, there's always that huge swath of people that come through and say, Well, you know, 75% of America is like white, like, 13% is black.
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It's, you know, the volume in the proportions and ratios.
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That percentage is all that sort of Okay, that's fine.
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So if we turn around, we look at the black community and we look at what sort of industry verticals that they part dissipated, Um, in which industry verticals they dominated.
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We talked about it on the last podcast.
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When it comes to music and sports, um, the black community contributes, like you know, like you said, 75 to 80% of that population is black.
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Folks, you're not getting tons of populations.
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You're not getting like tons of black folks that are in different industries.
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You yourself are in banking.
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There may not be as many people in banking percentage wise as there may be in your position as there may be in basketball or football or any of those other sports.
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So when you don't have representation in all these other industry verticals, you can't apply pressure from all those other industry verticals to the overall cause.
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So if you only have a small percentage of verticals that you could be part of it by verticals, I just mean, you know, for anybody with this confusing just any like kind of work industry is what I made by industry verticals.
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If you're highly concentrated in certain industry verticals, you have to use those platforms because if you if you decide to just cancel it and just walk away, that is a huge platform that you miss out.
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And um, that's the part that bothers me the most that folks are advocating for a cancelled season.
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If you're doing it on the merits of Hey, this pandemic is really dangerous.
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Somebody could die from it 100%.
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Understand? I agree.
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I have no, no, no disagreement with that.
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Safety is important.
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Health is important because you can live with the financial consequences go for It's no different than me going back to work or working from home on.
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But to say that the platform doesn't matter, I think it is sort of, um, I don't want to You say it's like a slap in the face, but sort of slap in the face of the equity that you've built up in that industry.
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Vertical, like black folks have had to fight through segregation to get into these sports, and they got to a point where they completely dominate the sports to an insane for like the music industry and journalism.
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There's a a lot of folks making a lot of noise about the importance of, uh, having black journalists cover black athletes so that because they're attached to the, um, experience, the black experience growing up and getting there and stuff I got and it just for me, it just doesn't make any sense to It's like cutting your nose.
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You know, just for a moral victory and you don't have like, there's not that many avenues you know that people can't avoid.
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People can't avoid sports.
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People want their sports.
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So there's a big chunk of America that wants their sports.
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So if you know that they like, you know, let's just say it's like a drug addict.
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Let's say they're addicted to sports.
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They need sports bad.
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Why would you like that's why would you not send your message through that that medium? And so that's my stance on that, Um, but yeah, I don't know what your thoughts are, but you know, like the title of this podcast is, you know how black media is now attacking black athletes and how it's become so pronounced with this thing that's happening between Kendrick Perkins and carry on and Kyrie.
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And you know also what's happening with Stephen A.
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Smith.
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Um, I feel like it's an opportunity for those guys to really exact change within their, um, within their own platforms.
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You know, uh, I think it's possible for Stephen A.
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Smith to turn around and go and, uh, talk to his producers and say, Look, I can't I can't take this angle.
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No, Like Max Kellerman shouldn't be the one turning around advocating, you know, uh, against the party line.
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And so unless that's by design and he's doing it knowingly, which I would hope he's not doing it knowingly, like, how are you really helping helping the helping the situation? I understand advocating for the season to restart that.
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That's that argument.
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I get that part.
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But the argument of, you know, going towards character assassination and motive, assassination and stuff I got just for the sake of making your argument that doesn't seem to make any sense whatsoever.
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No, it's ridiculous.
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And I think you mentioned this about sports.
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Um, sports is like a drug to Americans, and so the players are recognizing that people want sports back.
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A lot of general fans don't care the risk that the players are putting themselves, and they just want their sports.
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But I can't. So what the players have realized is, wait a minute.
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We we do want to play, but this is our opportunity to force everyone involved, to give us what we want to better.
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Our community is not, I think, the players, I believe they released a statement that referenced, um, the intellectual property essentially of a black culture which the exporting of black culture is probably America's greatest export.
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There is nothing now oil, not technology.
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Black culture fuels everything, and these players are recognizing.
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Wait a minute.
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You guys are making money on our backs and not just sports.
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But I'm gonna give you a really big example that I see a lot of so influencers in recent years have become celebrities in their own right.
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Like essentially, they're not singing that I dancing.
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They're not acting there just on Instagram because they look a certain way right, Right.
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When you look at a number of the white women who are on instagram, they have tanner scan now bigger lips, Bigger ass is like they're wearing braids, cornrows, that is the intellectual property of black people like that is literally it.
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And they get millions of followers for looking like a minority.
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And that's that should say a whole lot about this country.
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Kim Kardashian, who herself is a minority.
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She benefits from date toeing the line of of not really being a minority but kind of capitalizing on black culture to she has no clue, really what black culture is because she's never lived like a black person anyway.
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Her father had money.
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She's got tons of money, her Children 1/2 black.
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But they benefit on this on black culture.
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And so it is by far the number one export.
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When you get to black, people have platforms like Stephen A.
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Smith as an example.
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He's probably the most well known sports personality elsewhere.
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Is that the biggest person on TV regarding sports? Right? And Stephen A.
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Smith? When I was writing my article this morning and I was looking for an interesting angle and trying to figure out why would this do go in there? Say the things that he says and Stephen A.
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Smith famously, you know, he's one that Colin Kaepernick for kneeling.
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He's he's called him out.
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He said that Cap just wanted publicity.
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When he did his workout, he says these things that are counterproductive toe these black athletes drawn it a chief.
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And when I was watching the exchange like the stuff that he's saying on first take about Kyrie, I'm like, Alright, let me just let me step back.
00:22:21
Let me let me take my emotion out of it as a black man and just step back. It's OK.
00:22:26
Disney and ESPN is losing money because there aren't any sports.
00:22:29
Disney can't put OUT its Marvel movies.
00:22:31
ESPN doesn't have sports.
00:22:33
They are huge partners of the MBA.
00:22:35
And so Disney went and asked, You know, Ah, ESPN have 100 of their highest paid personalities.
00:22:42
Take pay cuts.
00:22:43
Stephen A.
00:22:44
Smith is their highest paid on air personality.
00:22:47
8 to 10 year, which is crazy.
00:22:49
So I will get back to that.
00:22:50
A number in a second, but 8 to 10 million in a year, Disney says.
00:22:55
We want these guys that take 15% pay cuts.
00:22:58
We're not gonna make them because, contractually, we can't.
00:23:00
But we would like for them to do so.
00:23:02
Yeah, Stephen a Smith degrees that cost him roughly one $0.
00:23:06
2 million annual.
00:23:07
If he takes that pay cut, right, he he gains financially if the MBA returns like he clearly gains a theme returns.
00:23:16
And so one of the reasons that he I think that he is essentially ****ting on Kyrie is because if Kyrie can convince or Avery Bradley or anyone else that the Balkan convince enough players not to return.
00:23:29
That hurt Stephen A.
00:23:30
Stephen a.
00:23:31
Smith financially, despite the fact that whatever good that they they can enforce for the black community would help Stephen a long term and help his family and help other people in his family that might not have.
00:23:43
His financial resource is he's throwing that stuff out the window and just say no, these guys need to play same of Kendrick Perkins.
00:23:50
They're coming from their own place of privilege because they have money and they feel like these guys should be playing.
00:23:55
The funny part is about all of this.
00:23:57
They would not have platforms without the same black athletes, right? Right.
00:24:02
Like if these guys walked away, No one's paying Stephen a 8 to 10 million to talk about.
00:24:07
What Baseball? I don't think so.
00:24:09
ESPN This empire time during this pandemic has just been rehashing the same content over and over.
00:24:15
They've had no conversations whatsoever about anything else.
00:24:18
They're not even talking about the stuff that's happening in the protest.
00:24:21
Mean some folks would go on and mention it here and there, and nobody's expecting us for him to become a political, you know, Ah, political news platform or something like that.
00:24:29
But like clearly they need live sports.
00:24:32
I keep saying it over and over again.
00:24:34
Like when I see these segments and stuff I got.
00:24:36
And I'm just like, do this.
00:24:37
This network is completely cooked without lights, live sports like without live sports whatsoever and especially the N B A.
00:24:44
As much as you know, I know the NFL, you know completely.
00:24:47
You know, smashes thean be when it comes to ratings and stuff like a a lot of America loves football.
00:24:53
It I would say football is like it is American culture to some degree, um, synonymous with American culture.
00:25:00
So I get that.
00:25:01
But football is it as divisive outside of like, maybes things like what Kaepernick did, it isn't as divisive as the n b a is.
00:25:13
Oh, you know, I can tell you why that is.
00:25:16
So you know, last park, as we mentioned that the MBA audience is not is not the NFL audience.
00:25:22
And one of the things is with the transparency that the N B.
00:25:26
A gives us is that when it comes to end a athletes because the MBA makes there's player empowerment.
00:25:35
That's there's more, whole more than athlete thing that LeBron advocates foreign players advocate for.
00:25:40
And the MBA basically puts their athletes the front.
00:25:45
But when that happens, it's easier for people to attack those players.
00:25:48
They'll never attacked the organizational franchises that always attack the players.
00:25:52
So it's always LeBron's fault that this happened or it's carries faltered.
00:25:55
Grants followed.
00:25:56
Her staff's fault hardens fault.
00:25:57
Whoever right? The onus is always on that one guy for that star player.
00:26:01
The NFL also does promote their star players, but it's very selective with what star players it does.
00:26:06
And for the most part, it's usually always positive.
00:26:10
They usually have the guys that they want to pick on to kind of the Baker Mayfield itself.
00:26:14
I got when he has, like, a bad game or average game.
00:26:16
He's not that great, that kind of stuff.
00:26:19
But because of those because of the way those audiences think, um, everybody joins that party.
00:26:25
Everybody has that mindset.
00:26:27
Everybody goes, including guys like Perkins and Stephen A.
00:26:31
Smith.
00:26:32
They all go along that party line where, instead of attacking the thought process right and says, saying, What is Kyrie trying to say, What is Qari trying to do? You attack the player you attacked the credibility of the pair player, the characterization of the player, What is his motive? What is his background? Where does he come from? Who are his friends? N b a.
00:26:50
Twitter is probably the only Twitter that I've seen, where people will go and scroll through people's likes, just to see if there's some some nonsense that you know that the person accidentally like or something somebody retweeted You see people pulling polish from my 10 years ago when, like the athlete was like a 12 year old.
00:27:06
There's something I got for the young generation of guys, and it's just, you know, we all and I'm not inside, like as if I like.
00:27:14
I don't bring that kind of stuff up, either myself, I'm not any better, but that's the culture that's now begin.
00:27:19
Big gotten cultivated, and the problem that's happening here is, um, the's sports networks or just that's that's their angle all the time, like it's not the merits of the It's not the merits or the principle of what these folks are arguing.
00:27:33
What Kyrie and Bradley and Dwight are arguing for.
00:27:36
It's just their character and and that's a problem.
00:27:40
It's I said this in the article.
00:27:43
Man, White America largely views black athletes.
00:27:46
A selfish right, like it's your lucky to make millions of dollars to play a child's game, right? Like as if you don't put your body on the line is if you're your family didn't struggle to get help, get you know where you're at, like like you just woke up and you can't You have a 44 inch Bert and you just went to the NBA like that's not how it works.
00:28:04
But, you know, my I always have this have this personal philosophy where when somebody uses really stupid logic was, like, convince you, like, very adamant that they're gonna use that super logic to make the argument I bring up.
00:28:14
I go with it just to show them out. Stupid, Absurd.
00:28:17
So somebody turned white America looked at me and several You're so lucky to be able to play this sport and do this thing.
00:28:23
My responsibility.
00:28:24
I guess you're right.
00:28:25
I'm so lucky to do this.
00:28:26
I have to say what I have to say because I don't know what I'll have this chance ever again.
00:28:30
So it's like if people tell you that you're selfish and you're all except sometimes I think my sounds like, Yeah, I am selfish because I don't know if I would have this opportunity.
00:28:38
I don't know if I would have this platform and ever again tomorrow.
00:28:42
Kyrie.
00:28:43
Something could happen to Kyrie.
00:28:44
Kyrie could be the guy who's getting pulled over by a cop and something could happen to him.
00:28:48
And it's something like that happens.
00:28:50
Then what are we arguing, right? Like we just had years ago, the example of what happened Kaepernick.
00:28:55
It was peaceful protest on a national stage and an entire organization.
00:29:02
The NFL got him out of there and and some folks spoke up for him.
00:29:06
A lot of folks spoke against him, and a lot of folks twisted his message, and that's how quickly things can change.
00:29:12
You know, uh, I always say, like, me and my wife have been fortunate enough to have some of the things that we have, and I say that we're blessed.
00:29:21
I say that we're fortunate.
00:29:23
I don't call it luck because you maybe we bucked the curve of what people think black people are right and this is anything for the athletes.
00:29:30
They're not lucky They worked hard.
00:29:32
You want to know what luck is being born white? Because you didn't do anything to be given that you literally like you're just born and you will born with privilege.
00:29:42
These guys, the privilege that comes of being an athlete like they had to work to get that and their careers a short at that.
00:29:49
And then if they fail, you're laughing at them all along the way.
00:29:52
Yeah, so I feel like with Kendrick.
00:29:56
Um Kendrick Perkins said, because the players have said we think sports might be a distraction.
00:30:01
So Kendrick Perkins came around and then said, Well, look what we've talked about these last few days.
00:30:04
Kyrie Kyrie has made himself a distraction.
00:30:07
And I'm like, No, wait a minute.
00:30:09
I hope you like Curry doesn't tell ESPN what the right is exactly right.
00:30:14
Yes, it did it. Take what you're covering.
00:30:16
And then when I looked at Kendricks last five tweets, three of them were about Kyrie.
00:30:21
So no one's making you tweet about him like you could.
00:30:23
You could spend a few seconds talking about what's going on with the players.
00:30:26
But you could also spend time talking about what's going with the pandemic and these protests.
00:30:30
You're choosing to talk about him and then you want to blame him.
00:30:33
They're playing on these narratives that are simply wrong.
00:30:36
And I'm a big believer.
00:30:37
I've said this on on off the record on Mother podcast.
00:30:40
I'm a big believer and you better look in the mirror because I'm five foot 740 on fair skinned it.
00:30:47
I don't look like what they think.
00:30:49
Black people look like something like, I don't look like the characters that they paint of us, right? But some of the guys criticizing you guys look like the characters, like, look in the mirror at like you're criticizing your own.
00:31:03
On behalf of somebody that really criticizes you, I don't right. This is crazy.
00:31:07
And so we're in this place where there's no sport way.
00:31:09
All winter sports.
00:31:11
I started a **** website in the midst of a pandemic without yeah, I spent thousands of dollars to do that.
00:31:16
But beyond all like I stand to benefit financially if this thing works.
00:31:20
But beyond that, I'm black first and I support the choice.
00:31:23
Which player? So Kendrick Perkins said, Ah, it's time to get back to work, These guys about three months of cuddling, playing monopoly and playing, you know? Listen, man, come on.
00:31:33
Whether whether it's a pendant because of the pandemic because of protests or because these guys want a cuddle, they have the right to choose what is best for them, like all the rest of us have the right to choose what's best for us, and I support their choice.
00:31:47
It's kind of like with the discussion of what are you pro choice, not for women.
00:31:53
She has the right to make a decision for her.
00:31:55
I don't get right.
00:31:56
Tell her what my that she can or she should make that decision like I support the choice and we've got to this place where, um, there's no sports.
00:32:06
There's not a lot to talk about.
00:32:07
But you know what gets a lot of clicks criticizing Kyrie or Avery Bradley, saying they don't have a plan when they do have a plan? When they stated what their plant was and the plate with that private Nets group chat where players were linking, I read something they said, We want to start his own league.
00:32:23
But then they said that with a lot the players that are leaking these text messages to the media man, that's wrong.
00:32:30
Like, I don't know.
00:32:31
What do you stand to gain by that? Yeah, I think I read the other day that they said that even the conference call was not.
00:32:38
And I understand that it goes both ways, you know, like some players.
00:32:43
Actually, um, let me phrase it so it doesn't sound like a false equivalence.
00:32:47
Um, I was told or I read, um, that the conference call that originally happened with, like, those 80 players on my got it wasn't an nbp a sanction ****, a conference call.
00:33:00
So I understand that there's some apprehension in regards that carries motives as to why he's doing that.
00:33:05
But at the same time, a lot of the general messaging that's come especially from Dwight Cause Dwight's been pretty vocal about this subject is that there are players in the league or as part of this return plan of those eligible players that have concerns that they're afraid to voice.
00:33:20
For whatever reason.
00:33:22
Now, I don't think the MBA is the NFL.
00:33:24
I don't think if any players came out and said something the league would like blackball them from the league.
00:33:28
I don't think that's it.
00:33:29
I don't think any any teammates would blackball them from the league because to be honest, everything is moving forward like they've already voted all this stuff.
00:33:38
So, like all this stuff that's happening on the side or the conversation that's happening on the side, that's happening like literally on the side.
00:33:45
It's not something that is affecting anything moving forward.
00:33:48
It's something that's happening on the side that they need to iron out.
00:33:51
So I understand that part.
00:33:53
The part that's very difficult for me is you and I just got here for were going on about 34 minutes and both of us pretty much said the same thing.
00:34:01
We said we understand if you don't want to play and we understand if you want to play.
00:34:07
But we also understand the importance of using your platform to a platform that a limited platform, a very up small opportunity that you may have but like a very impacting opportunity.
00:34:19
Think Matt Barnes has said that he's a very impactful situation that they could do it with The negotiations are going on right now.
00:34:25
Um, it's important that they make use of that.
00:34:30
You can say that.
00:34:32
I don't understand my Kendrick Perkins and said, and Stephen A.
00:34:34
Smith don't just go up there and say I understand Kyrie I understand the guys that and I understand the guys that want to play.
00:34:42
Here's a happy medium, right? I understand both sides, and I know that in sports we don't like middle ground and we don't like to discuss the gray area.
00:34:51
But how much more unified with a message be if Kyrie Dwight Avery Bradley are saying, We want the MBA to invest in our communities? And then you spent an entire segment talking about maybe these air different ways that the n B A communities could be investor, you know, these communities could be invested by the MBA.
00:35:06
Take a look at a landmark move that these players in the N B aired doing by forcing billionaires to invest into their communities doing outside so that they're not spending money out of their own pockets.
00:35:17
Why not talk about the infrastructure of how this league is predominantly black and all the black athletes are.
00:35:23
You know, all the athletes in general have two pits.
00:35:25
Devote money out of their pockets to improve their own communities.
00:35:31
LeBron built a school in his community and, you know, step is doing stuff for his own communities.
00:35:39
But these are millionaires.
00:35:40
These are people who don't have as much as the people who they work for.
00:35:44
It's steps shouldn't have to do that.
00:35:45
He should have to fund Oakland a homeless food program like food for the homeless programs in Oakland.
00:35:52
But the Warriors should do that.
00:35:54
They should go to step and say, Hey, how do we help you? How do we help this community that you want to be part of Joe? Lack of money, the Steph Curry right? And that's the part that that that is very difficult, like I understand, like doing philanthropy and all that sort of stuff, you know, like, uh, like balm, burdens and all that sort stuff, you know, the philanthropy that all these other guys doing, But I'm also not dump.
00:36:17
I also saw a video of the Rockets owner Tilman Fertitta sitting on a board in front of the president, asking for an exception.
00:36:24
So he could get a small business owner, you know, use the payroll of protection program or whatever, like asking for an exception so you could use that.
00:36:31
So it's like, All right, man, like, what are we doing here? Like, if I don't own a small business, so I don't get, you know, like I may not get that same program that's being afforded to swamp is I understand the reason why that program exists and all that sort of stuff.
00:36:45
But you have billionaires asking for handouts, and here are millionaires giving money out of their own pocket to support these programs.
00:36:51
And this is this is outside of the entire landscape of what's going on in America.
00:36:57
There are people still protests there has been who still need to be bailed out and problem in.
00:37:02
And there was no that the P.
00:37:05
P.
00:37:06
P.
00:37:07
Loan program, which I worked on a bit at my job.
00:37:09
There's no federally there's no oversight, which is why so many multibillion dollar companies were able to get funding when they should not have been able to get funding intimidated to your someone that it would try to get funding and when you see, Ah, when you when you see billionaires making money during a terrible time in American history and everybody else is struggling.
00:37:36
But then the billionaires are still asking for more money like that's an issue when I'm sure the players recognize bomber building that Iran in Inglewood, which gentrify Zynga wood, which is a predominantly black community gym, he was able to write pay cash for the Clippers, right? Like I want people to understand.
00:37:55
For the forum he bought, he bought the former after 500 1,000,000 like temper Tito.
00:38:00
The Rockets had the head of finance part of his landing and get money.
00:38:04
Initially, Alexander, the previous owner to buy the Rockets bomber another hand paid straight cash homie grippers for the Inglewood Arena for the, uh, later arena for great Western form.
00:38:18
And then he's building another one.
00:38:19
Like the players are saying, Wait a minute.
00:38:21
You guys have cashed a blow.
00:38:23
Yeah, like we do want to give her own communities.
00:38:26
But you guys extract so much from our communities.
00:38:29
You now need to put more of that bill.
00:38:31
You guys need to pay that money up, and I should Yeah, and I understand.
00:38:36
Um you know, I get I I get that.
00:38:41
You know, if if the music industry had to shut down and the sports industry had to shut down, there are a lot of folks and media that would also be out of jobs.
00:38:47
You know, just like you mentioned, like your own situation as well that if there's no Lakers to cover, then your site doesn't really have much content to put out.
00:38:55
And I understand that. Kendrick Perkins Job security.
00:38:57
I think he just recently got like, a full time cake with these B and I want to say like four has been like less less than 12 months.
00:39:03
Sat with Stephen A.
00:39:04
Smith.
00:39:05
He's got tons of equity, so that's not really a problem for him.
00:39:07
Um, so I understand that their industry suffers this well, they're probably also advocating outside of the athletes are probably also advocating for their own coworkers to at ESPN and stuff like at the lower level folks, I 100% understand that I want them to advocate for them for for their own folks.
00:39:24
I want them to do that.
00:39:26
But at the same time, the way you're going about doing it right The way you're pushing the message out about Kyrie and about all the other folks there.
00:39:36
That's the part that doesn't make any sense.
00:39:39
What is the purpose of attacking somebody's character when you can just say I understand what you're trying to do? I don't agree with the method right? And that's That's one of the things that I think I tweet about earlier, that being critical of methodology right is no different than pitting to black athletes together and saying, This guy's a better mid range shooter and this one isn't so This guy's trash and this one isn't right like this.
00:40:05
I this thing and I talked to you about it, um, off the, you know, off the record or whatever, like I don't understand why, uh, the community always wants to pit one person against the other.
00:40:20
Why is it that somebody one person has always grandstand like it's like, you know, it's like Avengers endgame or some like God in one's Captain American Once day and I was like, I don't understand why that has to happen every single time.
00:40:32
This should be a no brainer for sports media.
00:40:34
Everybody should be saying I'm glad the NBA's coming back.
00:40:37
I'm happy that the players, if you want sports back, I'm happy that the players were willing to play.
00:40:42
Um, I respect them for that.
00:40:44
I understand that there taking risks.
00:40:46
And then the last thing should be.
00:40:48
If they want to gain more leverage for themselves and get the team's thes billionaires to invest in their communities, they should do that.
00:40:53
That's what that's what, then they're right.
00:40:55
It's a whole union versus a whole organization, right, and that's how it should work. That's that's America.
00:41:00
That's how it works in America, and that's it, Like then talk about other stuff.
00:41:05
There's so much other content that you can cover.
00:41:07
But I I don't understand why.
00:41:09
It's always the disguise, the villain.
00:41:11
And I mean, I understand what it's because that gets more clicks right.
00:41:15
The more off the ledge that Kendrick Perkins goes and Stephen A.
00:41:18
Smith more drastic, more extreme of a position they take that does that.
00:41:23
But we're now getting into territory where it's getting really personal, right, like you're like, uh, you're getting to a point where you're you know you're making jokes like all right, you had time to play Monopoly and enjoy yourself itself.
00:41:36
I got time to get back.
00:41:37
No, no, that's how it works. None of it.
00:41:40
That's how any of this works.
00:41:41
And, um, that is equity that the black community has built up for itself.
00:41:45
Black athletes have built up for themselves in these respective sports, and so the men I know that, um, I know that people really want their sports back.
00:41:59
And I see a lot of folks on Twitter doing some really fake virtue, signalling and saying, Oh, that, you know, people just want their hoops back.
00:42:05
Laker fans just want their hoops fact.
00:42:07
They don't really care about the players, and they don't care about the pandemic or black lives matter like Trust me.
00:42:11
There are many, many fans in all different fan bases that are affected and care about this situation and the folks on Twitter that trying to be holier than thou.
00:42:21
I really hope I don't see them tweet about the MBA.
00:42:23
Like if the season comes back, I don't want to see any of those spoke to be tweeting live tweeting any Laker games.
00:42:28
I don't want to see them live tweeting.
00:42:30
This guy's better than the other guy.
00:42:31
You shouldn't be on Twitter.
00:42:32
You should be off NBA Twitter if lead comes back if you feel that strongly about it.
00:42:37
And you definitely shouldn't be tweeting about the NFL or the MLB if you're tweeting if that's gonna be your stance and I bet you most of those Phillips will still be here on the app arguing with us during the season when it comes back because that's how Twitter works, right? We We like to take the holier than thou position and then just step away, you know, and then just act like we never said it when it would happen.
00:42:56
Um, but the other thing is also this there.
00:43:00
I have not heard about any solidarity between MBA players, NFL players and MLB players.
00:43:05
So if the n B A cancels its season 30 days later, the NFL is coming back and whenever them will be comes back, it'll come back and they may just continue the status quote.
00:43:14
Maybe their friend of the NFL players the next step.
00:43:17
What it sounds like it's going to be his players going to kneel during the national national anthem and, ah, if they Neil I'm sure that will cause a big hubbub, but football is going to continue as usual, like people are gonna know that these players are going to kneel in advance.
00:43:32
So that's my thing.
00:43:33
Like, there it is.
00:43:36
Probably not going to be solidarity like the NFL isn't going to cancel its season.
00:43:40
Those players aren't gonna cancel the season.
00:43:41
NFL players have even shorter livelihood.
00:43:44
A zit relates to their contracts as well.
00:43:46
And so you know it.
00:43:50
It's just not gonna happen the way that folks think it is.
00:43:53
And the people that want to have the protests.
00:43:58
Sorry, the people who want to be somebody summed it up very easily until I forgot who the person was.
00:44:03
So I apologize if you're watching this, But credit goes to you.
00:44:07
If if basketball is enough to distract you from the protests and racism, then you were never interested in protests and rates the chemical begin.
00:44:16
That's it.
00:44:17
Yep, it's a simple is that so? If you think it's going to be a distraction to the majority of America by can't you know by having basketball on, Chances are that majority didn't care to begin with and, um, canceling cutting legal like basically cutting out your own legs to make that statement to people who don't care.
00:44:38
Is it gonna be helpful? So we even have to have solidarity between all the leagues Or if you're going to play, you have to make the experience.
00:44:47
This is the angle that I've been running on.
00:44:49
You have to make the experience as not uncomfortable, but it has to disrupt from your normal viewing experience.
00:44:56
You can't be able to watch somebody throw a football or, you know, do a touchdown celebration or dribble a ball up and down the court without knowing that these what they're doing it for what they're representing.
00:45:08
And I know.
00:45:09
And I think that is the crux of the conversation that's going on in the stands that Kyrie and all these guys were taking.
00:45:14
They want to make sure that if they are going to step foot on the hardwood that you cannot escape.
00:45:21
What messages? What is going on in America today? And, um, I hope they're successful.
00:45:27
I hope they figure out something.
00:45:28
I'm sure there's gonna be a lot of folks they're gonna say it wasn't enough, for.
00:45:31
It's not good enough or they disagree with the methodology to begin with.
00:45:34
But you have to do something you can't just.
00:45:38
This is the platform you have.
00:45:39
You're not in that many industries.
00:45:41
You have to make use of it in some form.
00:45:43
And like like we said before, sports is like a drug addiction for many people.
00:45:48
We have to use that message.
00:45:50
You know, the players have to use that message, in my opinion, to to push the movement forward.
00:45:55
The players, they're asking for a number of things.
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But the three specific things is one they want to see.
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Better hiring practices for black coaches and black general managers and shadow shot auditory Weaver, who just got the job in Detroit.
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I was.
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I'm a strong advocate for that dude.
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He was there when Durant and Russell and Hardware there, Um, I wanted the Lakers to interview him before Rob was even been a thing.
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So they want.
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They want more blacks and leadership ship positions.
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What they also want is they want India to partner with more black owned companies and vendors.
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That's another way.
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And then they also want the league and the owners to start investing in the non profits and organizations that specifically help black community those air.
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Three huge things and they can accomplish those.
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Hey, that's like I'm happy about that and there's still more work to be done.
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This isn't none of this is going away.
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Tomorrow is so much work to still be done.
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But if they're gonna put their lives on the line, then they go and then they need to get with.
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But they're asking for, and I'm pretty sure the owners and the league will acquiesce to what they're asking for their going to.
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And so it's a ever It's crazy cause it's in every balding story.
00:47:05
I feel like today.
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There haven't been as many leaks or like rumors the last time.
00:47:09
It was just like 24 hours of just just stuff coming out from all the different outlets.
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But I'm happy these guys were standing up for what will help them, their families and their communities.
00:47:19
And so let's close on that man.
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It will definitely get back on or record something else if if some big news comes.
00:47:26
But sure, um, tell everybody, but how they can find all your plate, your stuff in your platform, man. Yeah.
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You know, I'm pretty.
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I'm only on Twitter.
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You confined from putting out it correctly.
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You can see the handle right there.
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It's just V kill him.
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And then, um uh, you know, I have a newsletter that I've been really so about getting around to, cause I've just been very, very busy.
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Um, during this entire time, Uh, and so you could find that newsletter in my bio.
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Um, but yeah, those are pretty much the only believe.
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Just find me on Twitter.
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That's pretty much for everybody.
00:47:55
Kind of has conversations up with me and self I got And so, um, you know, as always, I hope, Ah, the audience is doing well, everybody who's watching or ends of watching these podcasts.
00:48:04
Are you listening to the podcast audio later? I hope everybody's doing well.
00:48:08
I know that the Corona virus cases air now surging in a lot of states.
00:48:13
Um, I don't know if that's gonna be the second wave or if there's going to be any even bigger wave coming, but I hope everybody's being safe and following protocols.
00:48:21
Um, I hope everybody that is pro testing is also safe.
00:48:25
Um, And that is out in the streets for the folks that are unable to protest.
00:48:29
There are a lot of resource is online where you can donate.
00:48:32
I hope there folks were able to donate if they can, whether it be time or money with what's going on.
00:48:37
And, you know, we're still stuck in the house right now, you know, Um and it's getting hot.
00:48:43
Ah, here in Georgia, it's very, very hot right now.
00:48:47
Um, and we get rain and the humanities like crazy.
00:48:49
So when it gets hot, it's people want to go outside.
00:48:52
And I know that right now everybody is being told to be safe and stay indoors.
00:48:55
So, um, I hope everybody's doing good.
00:48:57
Um, and like always, you know, I appreciate everybody who watches us and, you know, um, continue to do so and, ah, we'll be back.
00:49:06
I'm sure we'll get some more news.
00:49:08
The Lakers got the best hotel, though, so I'm glad.
00:49:10
I'm glad that they did the hotel option.
00:49:11
That's the other thing I would say.
00:49:12
Hopefully they get they don't gotta pay for WiFi or anything like that when they're when they're at that hotel.
00:49:17
So we'll see how that goes, Yeah, I want to say thank you to everybody.
00:49:23
One that is subscribing for the podcast describing for the website following me across social media.
00:49:27
I've gotten a lot of messages, um, about me using my platform this way about be talking about issues that are obviously sports related, but also have, ah, have a larger place in American culture. American society.
00:49:40
So thank you guys for those kind words.
00:49:43
I had someone say to me, I need a larger platform today and I am trying.
00:49:47
I've come a long way with this Lakers and pocket I don't have I don't have billions behind me doing this, you know, it takes a lot.
00:49:56
We're good.
00:49:57
We're we're regular guys, everybody.
00:49:59
Everybody who's watching this, like, we're regular folks that are just trying to make, you know, trying to be passionate about the Lakers and be passionate about things that go on in the world today.
00:50:08
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00:50:13
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00:50:28
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00:50:43
Ah, on Twitter.
00:50:46
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Black Media Attacking Black Athletes

Brooklyn Nets star Kyrie Irving has been the talk of the NBA town of late. For Atlanta Hawks head coach Lloyd Pierce, Irving’s situation reminds him a bit of Colin Kaepernick. Irving was recently identified as the main instigator of the movement involving NBA players not wanting to participate in the NBA’s bubble in Florida. […]

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on the planet, but the biggest, brightest and up and coming voices in sports and culture Before we get into today's show, make sure you tell another fan about Laker central dot com.
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We're building a community one subscriber at a time.
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What's up? Been a welcome to the show, man.
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How's it going? Ah, I'm doing good, Alex.
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I hope you're doing well yourself.
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We're inching more towards some normalcy.
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Not normalcy, but inching more towards Ah, the N b a season coming back and getting more and more info in regards to what's going on.
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Um, with the season where they're staying, all that's her stuff which will cover.
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But I'm doing good.
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How about how about you Are you doing? I'm good, man.
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I took today off.
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I took tomorrow off which, um, if you're watching this now, tomorrow is Juneteenth.
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So I took the last couple days off, um, to celebrate that me and my wife we were just hanging out, man.
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Yeah, eso since you mentioned Juneteenth, um you know, I know the Kings and a few other teams have started, and the Hawks, I think, were the first team.
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Um that that did it but it looks like they've been giving paid holidays all their employees for some of these franchises for June teeth.
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So, um, you know, I I know of Juneteenth.
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I know you know, the gist of the significance of where it is.
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Ah, but I probably don't know as much as I probably should know about it.
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Um, So I was wondering if we could take this opportunity before we start talking about some more basketball related matters to Ah, just hear from you.
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Ah, as to the importance of Juneteenth and sort of what it means to the black community that that date is commemorated or celebrated or or advocated for Yeah, man.
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So, um, I'll try to keep me and be as basic as possible.
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All right, So everybody in America celebrates July 4th Independence Day, which originally took place in 17. 76.
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Um, but unless you've been under a rock the last 500 years, July 4th didn't apply to black people.
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Um, and so ah, while the country celebrates Independence Day, um, my ancestors were still enslaved when that took place.
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So, um, the fast forward 90 years or so and Lincoln signed the Emancipation proclamation, which, um, essentially in slavery in the United States, It was effective January firsts 18 63.
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But, um, just because the president signed something doesn't mean that it's gonna be enforced around the country.
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And so Juneteenth is essentially the celebration of those enslave people that were down in Texas finally getting the news of the Emancipation Proclamation and union soldiers finally getting down there and enforcing it.
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And so to be clear, we celebrate Independence Day as a country, uh, July 4th, which again took place in 17.
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76 Africans or enslave in Slate.
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Black people did not receive their freedom into January 1st, 18 63.
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And then it actually didn't reach the entire country.
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Texas specifically until 18 65.
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And so we celebrate that June 1918 65.
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Ah, as June teeth, um, more, more black people recognizing it, more of the country's recognizing at a bunch of major companies like truest bank, which is SunTrust on BB and T that they've given up, given the day off to the number of folks.
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And more companies are paying attention to that.
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More people are celebrating it.
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So, um, it's it's when we celebrate Independence says as black people.
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Awesome.
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I think you said it pretty well.
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Um, and I appreciate you sharing that.
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So hopefully for anybody who is part of the live stream that doesn't know the significance of it.
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Um, even for me myself, just, you know, reinforcing kind of the importance of it understands the importance of importance of that date.
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I know the president has a rally that he set up in Tulsa, Oklahoma, which is a very important location to the community as well in terms of historical, um, you know, that's the history behind that location.
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So obviously he's doing the Narcissus stuff that he's always going to do and saying that he's making it more popular.
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But anyways, not this is not a political podcast.
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So we won't really get out that he canceled the rally way for those that don't know.
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Um, Trump is gonna hold a rally down in Tulsa, Oklahoma, Tulsa, Oklahoma is the site of one of the bloodiest mascot massacres of black people in Unite's States history.
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It was a very affluent black town.
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A time and white people got upset that they were blacks of money and burned the town to the ground, killing a number of black people.
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So Trump was gonna hold a rally there, and somebody told him Yes, Probably a bad idea.
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And he could otherwise, but yeah, so you know, Well, and, uh, sorry.
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Big props to ah, anybody who registered for that rally for the sake of just not showing up and orders to show up in protest.
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Uh, I'm in.
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I mean, most of the folks know what may already know, but I'm in Georgia right now.
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And my brother lawn, my in laws, Are I all I here in Georgia and ah, they told me that, like a most like, like the Indian community, like my community itself, I got They were all trying to buy tickets on register online so they could they could sell it out.
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But then they were never planning on showing up.
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So either he would have shown up to a rally with nobody there, we would have showed up to rally where everybody was protesting against him.
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And, ah, I wouldn't be surprised if his folks cops caught some window.
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That and ah, obviously optics are important to him in the administration.
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So, um you know that's a win.
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Getting him to cancel that is a big win for that day, especially it is, man.
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So eso look, we were just talking off line.
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Um, MBA Twitter's been kind of wild and some of it seems be fueled by, uh, the media.
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Really right.
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Like if we've got Kyrie, Irving, Avery, Bradley, Dwight Howard a number of other and be players saying, If we are going to resume basketball, there are some additional things that we want to see take place from the MBA.
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Since they have done that, um, people have made fun of Kyrie.
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Kendrick Perkins and Stephen A.
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Smith have went on the warpath, so to speak, either on social media and or on their relative TV shows.
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And they're criticizing these guys for taking a stand.
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Basically.
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I mean, that's what they're doing that criticizing in particular stand and it's wild.
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I released an article this morning at on Laker central dot com, specifically talking about black media members attacking black athletes.
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Um, and I outlined why I think that is going on, but I don't see what the deal is.
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Um, with with Kendrick and Stephen A or anybody else that's critical of Kyrie Avery Dwight, Whoever is involved in this, um, it seems like they're they're they're attacking them and their attacks are baseless.
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And so now it's went from then be a They agreed to resume the season, Adam Silver said.
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Even though we've agreed N b a and M v p a there still details being worked out.
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Those details are some of what the players right now we're talking about.
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And so it seems like basically an MBA released a memo.
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The seeds is going to resume July 30th.
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People didn't read the fine print and that they said a lot of stuff that will work out.
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And now they're people are ****ting a brick because the players are saying, Wait a minute, this is what we want out of this If we're gonna gonna go forward, Yeah, and I figure probably one of the things that's that's making this a little bit more irritating for the folks who really, really want this.
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He's season to be cancelled.
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Um uh, for whatever motivation is because Florida's had a spike, uh, in infections or at least positive tests, as relates to the Corona virus on and Obviously, that's that's where Florida is in Orlando is where the league is going to be played.
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So to start back at your point, Um, since the n b A.
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Has has really has, you know, worked its way back.
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You know, they initially mentioned that they're gonna bring the league back.
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There's a speculative dates that they had pushed out, that we're in negotiations.
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I think if you think somebody is a few folks on Twitter kind of made it pretty clear, like the every section of this.
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This return to play is like up for conversation until it actually gets finalizing.
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Voted on.
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Um, I think, uh, I think we has a Twitter audience.
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And as fans, we kind of look at these things like, uh, it's me and you jumping on a podcast like, Hey, Alex, you got time today.
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You got time or let's just jump on and do it.
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But, um, fancy to remember, this is a business, and these air, this is not, um this is not something where you could just, you know, hang out with your buddies and figure it out.
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It is something that has contractual obligations to it there, say there's legitimate safety control concerns.
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I know that there was a report out there that players who are like restricted free agents like Jason Tatum are not restricted free agents, but like guys who are going to be restricted free agents.
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Mitch Mitchell? Yeah, I mean, Mitchell, those guys, they're concerned about the insurance in case they get hurt during this process or they get Corona viruses from I got insurance policies for themselves.
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So there's very there many sections of this return to play agreement that both the league and the Players Association are working out.
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Um, but even within those sections, there are many layers to those sections as well.
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Um, and I think like you mentioned, the most prominent conversation right now has been in regards to, um, not so much the return to play because that's pretty much everybody's been vote.
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Everybody is more or less voted that they wanted to go back.
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Um, the main impasse right now seems, and I think game actually just recently mentioned it.
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They know there is a risk to them going back, but what folks need to also accept is it's the risk is no different than us going back to work.
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If I return to my office, I'm taking the same risk.
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That and I don't you know, in my office stomach.
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Hey, we've got this quarantine environment.
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There's all this protocol that you have to follow and everybody else has to follow.
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Um, all of that's all fine and dandy, but there's still a risk that I take for myself and, um, you know it on behalf of my family and self pickup.
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So with that being the case, it's the same thing for N b A players.
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There's a risk for them to as well.
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And so, um, with that being the case, I understand that there's some players that don't want to play even with that risk.
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So that makes sense.
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But you could see that some of the superstar players are also saying in their in their own right, like it's a risk dames at himself.
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It's a risk that I'm willing to take because, hey, he wants her in his money, um, and be maybe he just wants to play.
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There's something else that just want to play right now.
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Whether you make a lot of money, you don't make a lot of money, so that's fine.
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But there's also this layer of, um, specifically in Kyrie situation and the folks that he represents, Dwight every Bradley where they don't want to do just to return, to play right they want to do if they're going to return to play.
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They want to use this moment as maximum leverage.
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And the goal of that maximum leverage is to force the owners, um, to, uh, force the owners to invest in the communities.
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One thing I think that we talked about a lot on this podcast is that, um, anything that an athlete can do for his community is great.
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You know, donating backpacks, laptops, rebuilding, schools, rebuilding, you know, um, recreational, you know, parks and stuff like that.
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That's all wonderful stuff.
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But at the same time, this money and this equity financial equity is coming out of the athlete himself.
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It's coming out of his own pockets.
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And while philanthropy is not something, should that should ever be compared, we're talking about millionaires giving money out of their pockets compared to billionaires who can give money out of those pockets.
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Um, and I'm a big advocate that everybody should try and give money if they can.
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If they can't protest itself.
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Like as relates, the black lives matter movement.
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But I also agree with what the players are saying where we can use this moment to force these billionaires to invest in our company, invest in our communities, Right? Um, the one example I'll give you is no.
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Steve Ballmer's been doing a lot of stuff, Um, in regards to that, like because l A and, uh, more Laker fans.
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So we get to hear it from all the ESPN L A.
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Folks that are on Ballmer's payroll but we get to do is we got to see that bombers rebuilding backboards, and he's doing all these programs for kids and all.
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That's her stuff. That's wonderful.
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That's great.
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Uh, so I went out and gave backpacks to kids in Moreno Valley and all that's her stuff.
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That's all great.
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But at the same time, all that stuff has Clippers branding on.
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So while the philanthropy is great, are you doing it because you're genuinely invested in the communities? Are you doing it because you're trying to raise the profile of your team? And that's the part that I think I read in Avery Bradley and Dwight Howard.
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They're trying to change that.
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They don't want these.
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They don't want, um, teams like the Lakers, Clippers and all these other teams.
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They don't want them to just invest in the community as a purpose of raising the profile of your team, right? The point of investing in Inglewood is not so that you can then say the Clippers helped out Inglewood.
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So now Inglewood resident should be fans of the Clippers.
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That's not the point.
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The point of investing in these communities is to raise the level of, you know, reduce the level of inequality that there is between one community versus another, one neighborhood versus another.
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And I think that's the message that Kyrie and Avery Bradley all these guys are trying to put together.
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Um, well, and let me add this so people are clear.
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Um, during the pandemic, US billionaires have added 408 billion to their fortunes.
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We say that one more time during the pandemic, where there are 40 million Americans, unemployed billionaires, United States billionaires have added 408 billion to their fortunes.
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Steve Bomber, that you just mentioned, has added four billion and like, three months to his network, which I thought I was like 68 billion.
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The players are telling the billionaires who aren't losing money, their franchises may be losing money, but there other companies are clearly making money.
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They're saying to them, the league is 80% black.
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We now need you to invest in the community that we make as black players that we come from.
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And then the MBA as a brand wouldn't be what it is without us, it would not be.
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You're right.
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So we're gonna put our lives on the line.
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We're gonna put our families at risk.
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You need to do more than just pay our salaries that we're gonna be quarantined and locked down and have restrictions you need to doom.
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Or specifically, when there black people being killed in the streets at the hands of police officers.
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You all need to help us fight that if you're going to make money off of us.
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Yeah, I absolutely agree with that tonight.
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You know, the way that I know another conversation that's been happening on Twitter A lot is, you know, are using social platforms and stuff like that effective right? Like how much? How much work can you actually get them? And I'm not gonna rehash the whole thing.
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We talked about how noisy it is to promote ideas on Twitter and Instagram in all those different places, because people twists that information for their own agendas and their own purpose.
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But one of the things I think folks need to really try to under or, you know, one thing that I on I approach.
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This is my approach when I come to thinking about why these negotiations air good.
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You know, every time somebody talks about police brutality, there's always that huge swath of people that come through and say, Well, you know, 75% of America is like white, like, 13% is black.
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It's, you know, the volume in the proportions and ratios.
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That percentage is all that sort of Okay, that's fine.
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So if we turn around, we look at the black community and we look at what sort of industry verticals that they part dissipated, Um, in which industry verticals they dominated.
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We talked about it on the last podcast.
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When it comes to music and sports, um, the black community contributes, like you know, like you said, 75 to 80% of that population is black.
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Folks, you're not getting tons of populations.
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You're not getting like tons of black folks that are in different industries.
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You yourself are in banking.
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There may not be as many people in banking percentage wise as there may be in your position as there may be in basketball or football or any of those other sports.
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So when you don't have representation in all these other industry verticals, you can't apply pressure from all those other industry verticals to the overall cause.
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So if you only have a small percentage of verticals that you could be part of it by verticals, I just mean, you know, for anybody with this confusing just any like kind of work industry is what I made by industry verticals.
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If you're highly concentrated in certain industry verticals, you have to use those platforms because if you if you decide to just cancel it and just walk away, that is a huge platform that you miss out.
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And um, that's the part that bothers me the most that folks are advocating for a cancelled season.
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If you're doing it on the merits of Hey, this pandemic is really dangerous.
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Somebody could die from it 100%.
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Understand? I agree.
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I have no, no, no disagreement with that.
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Safety is important.
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Health is important because you can live with the financial consequences go for It's no different than me going back to work or working from home on.
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But to say that the platform doesn't matter, I think it is sort of, um, I don't want to You say it's like a slap in the face, but sort of slap in the face of the equity that you've built up in that industry.
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Vertical, like black folks have had to fight through segregation to get into these sports, and they got to a point where they completely dominate the sports to an insane for like the music industry and journalism.
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There's a a lot of folks making a lot of noise about the importance of, uh, having black journalists cover black athletes so that because they're attached to the, um, experience, the black experience growing up and getting there and stuff I got and it just for me, it just doesn't make any sense to It's like cutting your nose.
00:17:53
You know, just for a moral victory and you don't have like, there's not that many avenues you know that people can't avoid.
00:18:01
People can't avoid sports.
00:18:02
People want their sports.
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So there's a big chunk of America that wants their sports.
00:18:07
So if you know that they like, you know, let's just say it's like a drug addict.
00:18:10
Let's say they're addicted to sports.
00:18:12
They need sports bad.
00:18:13
Why would you like that's why would you not send your message through that that medium? And so that's my stance on that, Um, but yeah, I don't know what your thoughts are, but you know, like the title of this podcast is, you know how black media is now attacking black athletes and how it's become so pronounced with this thing that's happening between Kendrick Perkins and carry on and Kyrie.
00:18:36
And you know also what's happening with Stephen A.
00:18:38
Smith.
00:18:41
Um, I feel like it's an opportunity for those guys to really exact change within their, um, within their own platforms.
00:18:47
You know, uh, I think it's possible for Stephen A.
00:18:49
Smith to turn around and go and, uh, talk to his producers and say, Look, I can't I can't take this angle.
00:18:55
No, Like Max Kellerman shouldn't be the one turning around advocating, you know, uh, against the party line.
00:19:01
And so unless that's by design and he's doing it knowingly, which I would hope he's not doing it knowingly, like, how are you really helping helping the helping the situation? I understand advocating for the season to restart that.
00:19:14
That's that argument.
00:19:15
I get that part.
00:19:16
But the argument of, you know, going towards character assassination and motive, assassination and stuff I got just for the sake of making your argument that doesn't seem to make any sense whatsoever.
00:19:29
No, it's ridiculous.
00:19:30
And I think you mentioned this about sports.
00:19:33
Um, sports is like a drug to Americans, and so the players are recognizing that people want sports back.
00:19:43
A lot of general fans don't care the risk that the players are putting themselves, and they just want their sports.
00:19:48
But I can't. So what the players have realized is, wait a minute.
00:19:50
We we do want to play, but this is our opportunity to force everyone involved, to give us what we want to better.
00:19:59
Our community is not, I think, the players, I believe they released a statement that referenced, um, the intellectual property essentially of a black culture which the exporting of black culture is probably America's greatest export.
00:20:14
There is nothing now oil, not technology.
00:20:17
Black culture fuels everything, and these players are recognizing.
00:20:21
Wait a minute.
00:20:22
You guys are making money on our backs and not just sports.
00:20:25
But I'm gonna give you a really big example that I see a lot of so influencers in recent years have become celebrities in their own right.
00:20:32
Like essentially, they're not singing that I dancing.
00:20:36
They're not acting there just on Instagram because they look a certain way right, Right.
00:20:41
When you look at a number of the white women who are on instagram, they have tanner scan now bigger lips, Bigger ass is like they're wearing braids, cornrows, that is the intellectual property of black people like that is literally it.
00:20:59
And they get millions of followers for looking like a minority.
00:21:03
And that's that should say a whole lot about this country.
00:21:07
Kim Kardashian, who herself is a minority.
00:21:10
She benefits from date toeing the line of of not really being a minority but kind of capitalizing on black culture to she has no clue, really what black culture is because she's never lived like a black person anyway.
00:21:24
Her father had money.
00:21:25
She's got tons of money, her Children 1/2 black.
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But they benefit on this on black culture.
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And so it is by far the number one export.
00:21:34
When you get to black, people have platforms like Stephen A.
00:21:38
Smith as an example.
00:21:40
He's probably the most well known sports personality elsewhere.
00:21:43
Is that the biggest person on TV regarding sports? Right? And Stephen A.
00:21:49
Smith? When I was writing my article this morning and I was looking for an interesting angle and trying to figure out why would this do go in there? Say the things that he says and Stephen A.
00:22:00
Smith famously, you know, he's one that Colin Kaepernick for kneeling.
00:22:03
He's he's called him out.
00:22:05
He said that Cap just wanted publicity.
00:22:07
When he did his workout, he says these things that are counterproductive toe these black athletes drawn it a chief.
00:22:13
And when I was watching the exchange like the stuff that he's saying on first take about Kyrie, I'm like, Alright, let me just let me step back.
00:22:21
Let me let me take my emotion out of it as a black man and just step back. It's OK.
00:22:26
Disney and ESPN is losing money because there aren't any sports.
00:22:29
Disney can't put OUT its Marvel movies.
00:22:31
ESPN doesn't have sports.
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They are huge partners of the MBA.
00:22:35
And so Disney went and asked, You know, Ah, ESPN have 100 of their highest paid personalities.
00:22:42
Take pay cuts.
00:22:43
Stephen A.
00:22:44
Smith is their highest paid on air personality.
00:22:47
8 to 10 year, which is crazy.
00:22:49
So I will get back to that.
00:22:50
A number in a second, but 8 to 10 million in a year, Disney says.
00:22:55
We want these guys that take 15% pay cuts.
00:22:58
We're not gonna make them because, contractually, we can't.
00:23:00
But we would like for them to do so.
00:23:02
Yeah, Stephen a Smith degrees that cost him roughly one $0.
00:23:06
2 million annual.
00:23:07
If he takes that pay cut, right, he he gains financially if the MBA returns like he clearly gains a theme returns.
00:23:16
And so one of the reasons that he I think that he is essentially ****ting on Kyrie is because if Kyrie can convince or Avery Bradley or anyone else that the Balkan convince enough players not to return.
00:23:29
That hurt Stephen A.
00:23:30
Stephen a.
00:23:31
Smith financially, despite the fact that whatever good that they they can enforce for the black community would help Stephen a long term and help his family and help other people in his family that might not have.
00:23:43
His financial resource is he's throwing that stuff out the window and just say no, these guys need to play same of Kendrick Perkins.
00:23:50
They're coming from their own place of privilege because they have money and they feel like these guys should be playing.
00:23:55
The funny part is about all of this.
00:23:57
They would not have platforms without the same black athletes, right? Right.
00:24:02
Like if these guys walked away, No one's paying Stephen a 8 to 10 million to talk about.
00:24:07
What Baseball? I don't think so.
00:24:09
ESPN This empire time during this pandemic has just been rehashing the same content over and over.
00:24:15
They've had no conversations whatsoever about anything else.
00:24:18
They're not even talking about the stuff that's happening in the protest.
00:24:21
Mean some folks would go on and mention it here and there, and nobody's expecting us for him to become a political, you know, Ah, political news platform or something like that.
00:24:29
But like clearly they need live sports.
00:24:32
I keep saying it over and over again.
00:24:34
Like when I see these segments and stuff I got.
00:24:36
And I'm just like, do this.
00:24:37
This network is completely cooked without lights, live sports like without live sports whatsoever and especially the N B A.
00:24:44
As much as you know, I know the NFL, you know completely.
00:24:47
You know, smashes thean be when it comes to ratings and stuff like a a lot of America loves football.
00:24:53
It I would say football is like it is American culture to some degree, um, synonymous with American culture.
00:25:00
So I get that.
00:25:01
But football is it as divisive outside of like, maybes things like what Kaepernick did, it isn't as divisive as the n b a is.
00:25:13
Oh, you know, I can tell you why that is.
00:25:16
So you know, last park, as we mentioned that the MBA audience is not is not the NFL audience.
00:25:22
And one of the things is with the transparency that the N B.
00:25:26
A gives us is that when it comes to end a athletes because the MBA makes there's player empowerment.
00:25:35
That's there's more, whole more than athlete thing that LeBron advocates foreign players advocate for.
00:25:40
And the MBA basically puts their athletes the front.
00:25:45
But when that happens, it's easier for people to attack those players.
00:25:48
They'll never attacked the organizational franchises that always attack the players.
00:25:52
So it's always LeBron's fault that this happened or it's carries faltered.
00:25:55
Grants followed.
00:25:56
Her staff's fault hardens fault.
00:25:57
Whoever right? The onus is always on that one guy for that star player.
00:26:01
The NFL also does promote their star players, but it's very selective with what star players it does.
00:26:06
And for the most part, it's usually always positive.
00:26:10
They usually have the guys that they want to pick on to kind of the Baker Mayfield itself.
00:26:14
I got when he has, like, a bad game or average game.
00:26:16
He's not that great, that kind of stuff.
00:26:19
But because of those because of the way those audiences think, um, everybody joins that party.
00:26:25
Everybody has that mindset.
00:26:27
Everybody goes, including guys like Perkins and Stephen A.
00:26:31
Smith.
00:26:32
They all go along that party line where, instead of attacking the thought process right and says, saying, What is Kyrie trying to say, What is Qari trying to do? You attack the player you attacked the credibility of the pair player, the characterization of the player, What is his motive? What is his background? Where does he come from? Who are his friends? N b a.
00:26:50
Twitter is probably the only Twitter that I've seen, where people will go and scroll through people's likes, just to see if there's some some nonsense that you know that the person accidentally like or something somebody retweeted You see people pulling polish from my 10 years ago when, like the athlete was like a 12 year old.
00:27:06
There's something I got for the young generation of guys, and it's just, you know, we all and I'm not inside, like as if I like.
00:27:14
I don't bring that kind of stuff up, either myself, I'm not any better, but that's the culture that's now begin.
00:27:19
Big gotten cultivated, and the problem that's happening here is, um, the's sports networks or just that's that's their angle all the time, like it's not the merits of the It's not the merits or the principle of what these folks are arguing.
00:27:33
What Kyrie and Bradley and Dwight are arguing for.
00:27:36
It's just their character and and that's a problem.
00:27:40
It's I said this in the article.
00:27:43
Man, White America largely views black athletes.
00:27:46
A selfish right, like it's your lucky to make millions of dollars to play a child's game, right? Like as if you don't put your body on the line is if you're your family didn't struggle to get help, get you know where you're at, like like you just woke up and you can't You have a 44 inch Bert and you just went to the NBA like that's not how it works.
00:28:04
But, you know, my I always have this have this personal philosophy where when somebody uses really stupid logic was, like, convince you, like, very adamant that they're gonna use that super logic to make the argument I bring up.
00:28:14
I go with it just to show them out. Stupid, Absurd.
00:28:17
So somebody turned white America looked at me and several You're so lucky to be able to play this sport and do this thing.
00:28:23
My responsibility.
00:28:24
I guess you're right.
00:28:25
I'm so lucky to do this.
00:28:26
I have to say what I have to say because I don't know what I'll have this chance ever again.
00:28:30
So it's like if people tell you that you're selfish and you're all except sometimes I think my sounds like, Yeah, I am selfish because I don't know if I would have this opportunity.
00:28:38
I don't know if I would have this platform and ever again tomorrow.
00:28:42
Kyrie.
00:28:43
Something could happen to Kyrie.
00:28:44
Kyrie could be the guy who's getting pulled over by a cop and something could happen to him.
00:28:48
And it's something like that happens.
00:28:50
Then what are we arguing, right? Like we just had years ago, the example of what happened Kaepernick.
00:28:55
It was peaceful protest on a national stage and an entire organization.
00:29:02
The NFL got him out of there and and some folks spoke up for him.
00:29:06
A lot of folks spoke against him, and a lot of folks twisted his message, and that's how quickly things can change.
00:29:12
You know, uh, I always say, like, me and my wife have been fortunate enough to have some of the things that we have, and I say that we're blessed.
00:29:21
I say that we're fortunate.
00:29:23
I don't call it luck because you maybe we bucked the curve of what people think black people are right and this is anything for the athletes.
00:29:30
They're not lucky They worked hard.
00:29:32
You want to know what luck is being born white? Because you didn't do anything to be given that you literally like you're just born and you will born with privilege.
00:29:42
These guys, the privilege that comes of being an athlete like they had to work to get that and their careers a short at that.
00:29:49
And then if they fail, you're laughing at them all along the way.
00:29:52
Yeah, so I feel like with Kendrick.
00:29:56
Um Kendrick Perkins said, because the players have said we think sports might be a distraction.
00:30:01
So Kendrick Perkins came around and then said, Well, look what we've talked about these last few days.
00:30:04
Kyrie Kyrie has made himself a distraction.
00:30:07
And I'm like, No, wait a minute.
00:30:09
I hope you like Curry doesn't tell ESPN what the right is exactly right.
00:30:14
Yes, it did it. Take what you're covering.
00:30:16
And then when I looked at Kendricks last five tweets, three of them were about Kyrie.
00:30:21
So no one's making you tweet about him like you could.
00:30:23
You could spend a few seconds talking about what's going on with the players.
00:30:26
But you could also spend time talking about what's going with the pandemic and these protests.
00:30:30
You're choosing to talk about him and then you want to blame him.
00:30:33
They're playing on these narratives that are simply wrong.
00:30:36
And I'm a big believer.
00:30:37
I've said this on on off the record on Mother podcast.
00:30:40
I'm a big believer and you better look in the mirror because I'm five foot 740 on fair skinned it.
00:30:47
I don't look like what they think.
00:30:49
Black people look like something like, I don't look like the characters that they paint of us, right? But some of the guys criticizing you guys look like the characters, like, look in the mirror at like you're criticizing your own.
00:31:03
On behalf of somebody that really criticizes you, I don't right. This is crazy.
00:31:07
And so we're in this place where there's no sport way.
00:31:09
All winter sports.
00:31:11
I started a **** website in the midst of a pandemic without yeah, I spent thousands of dollars to do that.
00:31:16
But beyond all like I stand to benefit financially if this thing works.
00:31:20
But beyond that, I'm black first and I support the choice.
00:31:23
Which player? So Kendrick Perkins said, Ah, it's time to get back to work, These guys about three months of cuddling, playing monopoly and playing, you know? Listen, man, come on.
00:31:33
Whether whether it's a pendant because of the pandemic because of protests or because these guys want a cuddle, they have the right to choose what is best for them, like all the rest of us have the right to choose what's best for us, and I support their choice.
00:31:47
It's kind of like with the discussion of what are you pro choice, not for women.
00:31:53
She has the right to make a decision for her.
00:31:55
I don't get right.
00:31:56
Tell her what my that she can or she should make that decision like I support the choice and we've got to this place where, um, there's no sports.
00:32:06
There's not a lot to talk about.
00:32:07
But you know what gets a lot of clicks criticizing Kyrie or Avery Bradley, saying they don't have a plan when they do have a plan? When they stated what their plant was and the plate with that private Nets group chat where players were linking, I read something they said, We want to start his own league.
00:32:23
But then they said that with a lot the players that are leaking these text messages to the media man, that's wrong.
00:32:30
Like, I don't know.
00:32:31
What do you stand to gain by that? Yeah, I think I read the other day that they said that even the conference call was not.
00:32:38
And I understand that it goes both ways, you know, like some players.
00:32:43
Actually, um, let me phrase it so it doesn't sound like a false equivalence.
00:32:47
Um, I was told or I read, um, that the conference call that originally happened with, like, those 80 players on my got it wasn't an nbp a sanction ****, a conference call.
00:33:00
So I understand that there's some apprehension in regards that carries motives as to why he's doing that.
00:33:05
But at the same time, a lot of the general messaging that's come especially from Dwight Cause Dwight's been pretty vocal about this subject is that there are players in the league or as part of this return plan of those eligible players that have concerns that they're afraid to voice.
00:33:20
For whatever reason.
00:33:22
Now, I don't think the MBA is the NFL.
00:33:24
I don't think if any players came out and said something the league would like blackball them from the league.
00:33:28
I don't think that's it.
00:33:29
I don't think any any teammates would blackball them from the league because to be honest, everything is moving forward like they've already voted all this stuff.
00:33:38
So, like all this stuff that's happening on the side or the conversation that's happening on the side, that's happening like literally on the side.
00:33:45
It's not something that is affecting anything moving forward.
00:33:48
It's something that's happening on the side that they need to iron out.
00:33:51
So I understand that part.
00:33:53
The part that's very difficult for me is you and I just got here for were going on about 34 minutes and both of us pretty much said the same thing.
00:34:01
We said we understand if you don't want to play and we understand if you want to play.
00:34:07
But we also understand the importance of using your platform to a platform that a limited platform, a very up small opportunity that you may have but like a very impacting opportunity.
00:34:19
Think Matt Barnes has said that he's a very impactful situation that they could do it with The negotiations are going on right now.
00:34:25
Um, it's important that they make use of that.
00:34:30
You can say that.
00:34:32
I don't understand my Kendrick Perkins and said, and Stephen A.
00:34:34
Smith don't just go up there and say I understand Kyrie I understand the guys that and I understand the guys that want to play.
00:34:42
Here's a happy medium, right? I understand both sides, and I know that in sports we don't like middle ground and we don't like to discuss the gray area.
00:34:51
But how much more unified with a message be if Kyrie Dwight Avery Bradley are saying, We want the MBA to invest in our communities? And then you spent an entire segment talking about maybe these air different ways that the n B A communities could be investor, you know, these communities could be invested by the MBA.
00:35:06
Take a look at a landmark move that these players in the N B aired doing by forcing billionaires to invest into their communities doing outside so that they're not spending money out of their own pockets.
00:35:17
Why not talk about the infrastructure of how this league is predominantly black and all the black athletes are.
00:35:23
You know, all the athletes in general have two pits.
00:35:25
Devote money out of their pockets to improve their own communities.
00:35:31
LeBron built a school in his community and, you know, step is doing stuff for his own communities.
00:35:39
But these are millionaires.
00:35:40
These are people who don't have as much as the people who they work for.
00:35:44
It's steps shouldn't have to do that.
00:35:45
He should have to fund Oakland a homeless food program like food for the homeless programs in Oakland.
00:35:52
But the Warriors should do that.
00:35:54
They should go to step and say, Hey, how do we help you? How do we help this community that you want to be part of Joe? Lack of money, the Steph Curry right? And that's the part that that that is very difficult, like I understand, like doing philanthropy and all that sort of stuff, you know, like, uh, like balm, burdens and all that sort stuff, you know, the philanthropy that all these other guys doing, But I'm also not dump.
00:36:17
I also saw a video of the Rockets owner Tilman Fertitta sitting on a board in front of the president, asking for an exception.
00:36:24
So he could get a small business owner, you know, use the payroll of protection program or whatever, like asking for an exception so you could use that.
00:36:31
So it's like, All right, man, like, what are we doing here? Like, if I don't own a small business, so I don't get, you know, like I may not get that same program that's being afforded to swamp is I understand the reason why that program exists and all that sort of stuff.
00:36:45
But you have billionaires asking for handouts, and here are millionaires giving money out of their own pocket to support these programs.
00:36:51
And this is this is outside of the entire landscape of what's going on in America.
00:36:57
There are people still protests there has been who still need to be bailed out and problem in.
00:37:02
And there was no that the P.
00:37:05
P.
00:37:06
P.
00:37:07
Loan program, which I worked on a bit at my job.
00:37:09
There's no federally there's no oversight, which is why so many multibillion dollar companies were able to get funding when they should not have been able to get funding intimidated to your someone that it would try to get funding and when you see, Ah, when you when you see billionaires making money during a terrible time in American history and everybody else is struggling.
00:37:36
But then the billionaires are still asking for more money like that's an issue when I'm sure the players recognize bomber building that Iran in Inglewood, which gentrify Zynga wood, which is a predominantly black community gym, he was able to write pay cash for the Clippers, right? Like I want people to understand.
00:37:55
For the forum he bought, he bought the former after 500 1,000,000 like temper Tito.
00:38:00
The Rockets had the head of finance part of his landing and get money.
00:38:04
Initially, Alexander, the previous owner to buy the Rockets bomber another hand paid straight cash homie grippers for the Inglewood Arena for the, uh, later arena for great Western form.
00:38:18
And then he's building another one.
00:38:19
Like the players are saying, Wait a minute.
00:38:21
You guys have cashed a blow.
00:38:23
Yeah, like we do want to give her own communities.
00:38:26
But you guys extract so much from our communities.
00:38:29
You now need to put more of that bill.
00:38:31
You guys need to pay that money up, and I should Yeah, and I understand.
00:38:36
Um you know, I get I I get that.
00:38:41
You know, if if the music industry had to shut down and the sports industry had to shut down, there are a lot of folks and media that would also be out of jobs.
00:38:47
You know, just like you mentioned, like your own situation as well that if there's no Lakers to cover, then your site doesn't really have much content to put out.
00:38:55
And I understand that. Kendrick Perkins Job security.
00:38:57
I think he just recently got like, a full time cake with these B and I want to say like four has been like less less than 12 months.
00:39:03
Sat with Stephen A.
00:39:04
Smith.
00:39:05
He's got tons of equity, so that's not really a problem for him.
00:39:07
Um, so I understand that their industry suffers this well, they're probably also advocating outside of the athletes are probably also advocating for their own coworkers to at ESPN and stuff like at the lower level folks, I 100% understand that I want them to advocate for them for for their own folks.
00:39:24
I want them to do that.
00:39:26
But at the same time, the way you're going about doing it right The way you're pushing the message out about Kyrie and about all the other folks there.
00:39:36
That's the part that doesn't make any sense.
00:39:39
What is the purpose of attacking somebody's character when you can just say I understand what you're trying to do? I don't agree with the method right? And that's That's one of the things that I think I tweet about earlier, that being critical of methodology right is no different than pitting to black athletes together and saying, This guy's a better mid range shooter and this one isn't so This guy's trash and this one isn't right like this.
00:40:05
I this thing and I talked to you about it, um, off the, you know, off the record or whatever, like I don't understand why, uh, the community always wants to pit one person against the other.
00:40:20
Why is it that somebody one person has always grandstand like it's like, you know, it's like Avengers endgame or some like God in one's Captain American Once day and I was like, I don't understand why that has to happen every single time.
00:40:32
This should be a no brainer for sports media.
00:40:34
Everybody should be saying I'm glad the NBA's coming back.
00:40:37
I'm happy that the players, if you want sports back, I'm happy that the players were willing to play.
00:40:42
Um, I respect them for that.
00:40:44
I understand that there taking risks.
00:40:46
And then the last thing should be.
00:40:48
If they want to gain more leverage for themselves and get the team's thes billionaires to invest in their communities, they should do that.
00:40:53
That's what that's what, then they're right.
00:40:55
It's a whole union versus a whole organization, right, and that's how it should work. That's that's America.
00:41:00
That's how it works in America, and that's it, Like then talk about other stuff.
00:41:05
There's so much other content that you can cover.
00:41:07
But I I don't understand why.
00:41:09
It's always the disguise, the villain.
00:41:11
And I mean, I understand what it's because that gets more clicks right.
00:41:15
The more off the ledge that Kendrick Perkins goes and Stephen A.
00:41:18
Smith more drastic, more extreme of a position they take that does that.
00:41:23
But we're now getting into territory where it's getting really personal, right, like you're like, uh, you're getting to a point where you're you know you're making jokes like all right, you had time to play Monopoly and enjoy yourself itself.
00:41:36
I got time to get back.
00:41:37
No, no, that's how it works. None of it.
00:41:40
That's how any of this works.
00:41:41
And, um, that is equity that the black community has built up for itself.
00:41:45
Black athletes have built up for themselves in these respective sports, and so the men I know that, um, I know that people really want their sports back.
00:41:59
And I see a lot of folks on Twitter doing some really fake virtue, signalling and saying, Oh, that, you know, people just want their hoops back.
00:42:05
Laker fans just want their hoops fact.
00:42:07
They don't really care about the players, and they don't care about the pandemic or black lives matter like Trust me.
00:42:11
There are many, many fans in all different fan bases that are affected and care about this situation and the folks on Twitter that trying to be holier than thou.
00:42:21
I really hope I don't see them tweet about the MBA.
00:42:23
Like if the season comes back, I don't want to see any of those spoke to be tweeting live tweeting any Laker games.
00:42:28
I don't want to see them live tweeting.
00:42:30
This guy's better than the other guy.
00:42:31
You shouldn't be on Twitter.
00:42:32
You should be off NBA Twitter if lead comes back if you feel that strongly about it.
00:42:37
And you definitely shouldn't be tweeting about the NFL or the MLB if you're tweeting if that's gonna be your stance and I bet you most of those Phillips will still be here on the app arguing with us during the season when it comes back because that's how Twitter works, right? We We like to take the holier than thou position and then just step away, you know, and then just act like we never said it when it would happen.
00:42:56
Um, but the other thing is also this there.
00:43:00
I have not heard about any solidarity between MBA players, NFL players and MLB players.
00:43:05
So if the n B A cancels its season 30 days later, the NFL is coming back and whenever them will be comes back, it'll come back and they may just continue the status quote.
00:43:14
Maybe their friend of the NFL players the next step.
00:43:17
What it sounds like it's going to be his players going to kneel during the national national anthem and, ah, if they Neil I'm sure that will cause a big hubbub, but football is going to continue as usual, like people are gonna know that these players are going to kneel in advance.
00:43:32
So that's my thing.
00:43:33
Like, there it is.
00:43:36
Probably not going to be solidarity like the NFL isn't going to cancel its season.
00:43:40
Those players aren't gonna cancel the season.
00:43:41
NFL players have even shorter livelihood.
00:43:44
A zit relates to their contracts as well.
00:43:46
And so you know it.
00:43:50
It's just not gonna happen the way that folks think it is.
00:43:53
And the people that want to have the protests.
00:43:58
Sorry, the people who want to be somebody summed it up very easily until I forgot who the person was.
00:44:03
So I apologize if you're watching this, But credit goes to you.
00:44:07
If if basketball is enough to distract you from the protests and racism, then you were never interested in protests and rates the chemical begin.
00:44:16
That's it.
00:44:17
Yep, it's a simple is that so? If you think it's going to be a distraction to the majority of America by can't you know by having basketball on, Chances are that majority didn't care to begin with and, um, canceling cutting legal like basically cutting out your own legs to make that statement to people who don't care.
00:44:38
Is it gonna be helpful? So we even have to have solidarity between all the leagues Or if you're going to play, you have to make the experience.
00:44:47
This is the angle that I've been running on.
00:44:49
You have to make the experience as not uncomfortable, but it has to disrupt from your normal viewing experience.
00:44:56
You can't be able to watch somebody throw a football or, you know, do a touchdown celebration or dribble a ball up and down the court without knowing that these what they're doing it for what they're representing.
00:45:08
And I know.
00:45:09
And I think that is the crux of the conversation that's going on in the stands that Kyrie and all these guys were taking.
00:45:14
They want to make sure that if they are going to step foot on the hardwood that you cannot escape.
00:45:21
What messages? What is going on in America today? And, um, I hope they're successful.
00:45:27
I hope they figure out something.
00:45:28
I'm sure there's gonna be a lot of folks they're gonna say it wasn't enough, for.
00:45:31
It's not good enough or they disagree with the methodology to begin with.
00:45:34
But you have to do something you can't just.
00:45:38
This is the platform you have.
00:45:39
You're not in that many industries.
00:45:41
You have to make use of it in some form.
00:45:43
And like like we said before, sports is like a drug addiction for many people.
00:45:48
We have to use that message.
00:45:50
You know, the players have to use that message, in my opinion, to to push the movement forward.
00:45:55
The players, they're asking for a number of things.
00:45:59
But the three specific things is one they want to see.
00:46:02
Better hiring practices for black coaches and black general managers and shadow shot auditory Weaver, who just got the job in Detroit.
00:46:08
I was.
00:46:09
I'm a strong advocate for that dude.
00:46:10
He was there when Durant and Russell and Hardware there, Um, I wanted the Lakers to interview him before Rob was even been a thing.
00:46:17
So they want.
00:46:19
They want more blacks and leadership ship positions.
00:46:21
What they also want is they want India to partner with more black owned companies and vendors.
00:46:26
That's another way.
00:46:27
And then they also want the league and the owners to start investing in the non profits and organizations that specifically help black community those air.
00:46:35
Three huge things and they can accomplish those.
00:46:39
Hey, that's like I'm happy about that and there's still more work to be done.
00:46:44
This isn't none of this is going away.
00:46:46
Tomorrow is so much work to still be done.
00:46:48
But if they're gonna put their lives on the line, then they go and then they need to get with.
00:46:54
But they're asking for, and I'm pretty sure the owners and the league will acquiesce to what they're asking for their going to.
00:47:00
And so it's a ever It's crazy cause it's in every balding story.
00:47:05
I feel like today.
00:47:06
There haven't been as many leaks or like rumors the last time.
00:47:09
It was just like 24 hours of just just stuff coming out from all the different outlets.
00:47:14
But I'm happy these guys were standing up for what will help them, their families and their communities.
00:47:19
And so let's close on that man.
00:47:22
It will definitely get back on or record something else if if some big news comes.
00:47:26
But sure, um, tell everybody, but how they can find all your plate, your stuff in your platform, man. Yeah.
00:47:32
You know, I'm pretty.
00:47:33
I'm only on Twitter.
00:47:34
You confined from putting out it correctly.
00:47:37
You can see the handle right there.
00:47:38
It's just V kill him.
00:47:39
And then, um uh, you know, I have a newsletter that I've been really so about getting around to, cause I've just been very, very busy.
00:47:45
Um, during this entire time, Uh, and so you could find that newsletter in my bio.
00:47:50
Um, but yeah, those are pretty much the only believe.
00:47:53
Just find me on Twitter.
00:47:54
That's pretty much for everybody.
00:47:55
Kind of has conversations up with me and self I got And so, um, you know, as always, I hope, Ah, the audience is doing well, everybody who's watching or ends of watching these podcasts.
00:48:04
Are you listening to the podcast audio later? I hope everybody's doing well.
00:48:08
I know that the Corona virus cases air now surging in a lot of states.
00:48:13
Um, I don't know if that's gonna be the second wave or if there's going to be any even bigger wave coming, but I hope everybody's being safe and following protocols.
00:48:21
Um, I hope everybody that is pro testing is also safe.
00:48:25
Um, And that is out in the streets for the folks that are unable to protest.
00:48:29
There are a lot of resource is online where you can donate.
00:48:32
I hope there folks were able to donate if they can, whether it be time or money with what's going on.
00:48:37
And, you know, we're still stuck in the house right now, you know, Um and it's getting hot.
00:48:43
Ah, here in Georgia, it's very, very hot right now.
00:48:47
Um, and we get rain and the humanities like crazy.
00:48:49
So when it gets hot, it's people want to go outside.
00:48:52
And I know that right now everybody is being told to be safe and stay indoors.
00:48:55
So, um, I hope everybody's doing good.
00:48:57
Um, and like always, you know, I appreciate everybody who watches us and, you know, um, continue to do so and, ah, we'll be back.
00:49:06
I'm sure we'll get some more news.
00:49:08
The Lakers got the best hotel, though, so I'm glad.
00:49:10
I'm glad that they did the hotel option.
00:49:11
That's the other thing I would say.
00:49:12
Hopefully they get they don't gotta pay for WiFi or anything like that when they're when they're at that hotel.
00:49:17
So we'll see how that goes, Yeah, I want to say thank you to everybody.
00:49:23
One that is subscribing for the podcast describing for the website following me across social media.
00:49:27
I've gotten a lot of messages, um, about me using my platform this way about be talking about issues that are obviously sports related, but also have, ah, have a larger place in American culture. American society.
00:49:40
So thank you guys for those kind words.
00:49:43
I had someone say to me, I need a larger platform today and I am trying.
00:49:47
I've come a long way with this Lakers and pocket I don't have I don't have billions behind me doing this, you know, it takes a lot.
00:49:56
We're good.
00:49:57
We're we're regular guys, everybody.
00:49:59
Everybody who's watching this, like, we're regular folks that are just trying to make, you know, trying to be passionate about the Lakers and be passionate about things that go on in the world today.
00:50:08
So, um, just regular somebody accused me of being a journalist the other day.
00:50:13
They're like, Oh, because I was like, Oh, Shams is washing loads with all this information and somebody just like, aren't you a journalist? He's donkey got you too, And I was just like, I don't know, People realize it's a regular guy that's just writes a lot or talks a lot when it comes to certain things.
00:50:28
But, um, yeah, as always, man, I appreciate all the folks that, um, watch and contribute and, ah, you know, just just add to the better N b A Twitter culture, basketball Twitter culture that we're trying to improve.
00:50:43
Ah, on Twitter.
00:50:46
I agree.
00:50:47
We'll make sure you guys describe the podcast and you can follow me on Twitter on all social media at Laker Central 3 65 So we'll close out on that, folks until next time we're out.

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