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00:00:00
you hear that? The bigger numbers are Rudy Gobert a 25 million, essentially, ah, 32 million for Connolly Bogdanovich there at 17 million.
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By the way, A lot of Mitchell remember on that contract was 23 years old, making 3.
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6 million.
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So it's not like we're really getting, you know, a really a big hit there right now for them, so maximizing that value is important as well.
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And as we see, Matt Brooks has joined him in a way for him to sit down here.
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And it's perfect, because this way, I don't have to go to the down this rabbit hole before I get Matt on.
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There is yeah, headquartered in here, Buddy Court that here, right up as they will get himself situated there on our of course SportsCastr co hosting feature, and we'll continue to kick around some of these numbers.
00:00:49
And then I already started to have some of these thoughts around Ah, possible trade partners in this, And if they were going to go that rap, I also have my more maybe specific thoughts around the idea, as if this is ever going to be the case for Rudy Gobert being moved on from from the Utah Jazz.
00:01:05
We'll find out soon enough.
00:01:20
Hello? Hello, sir.
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How are you? Hello, Good, sir.
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Did I know you're a good man off into this as well? What have you been? That that's the best part about the new SportsCastr Coast feature is that you just don you come rate in it.
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Just like that.
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Realise that? Sorry.
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Yeah, but it out yet? I haven't tried it.
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Know what? Listen, this is true. This is traveling fire.
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Thanks for coming in.
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Thanks for coming into my head is a globe.
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Right now.
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This thing is I have never looked.
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I have never looked more zoomed into is their right it zoom out of this.
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I don't know from adjustment standpoint, I think that's you, man. This is it.
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This is just comparatively Whitehead has never felt more reasonably sized than it does right now.
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That's ridiculous.
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I don't know why.
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I don't know why I was in charge of movement.
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You're the face the face of the franchise, you know? I mean, you got to get that.
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You got to get out of the cameras.
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Yeah, I guess so.
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This is this is my head shot right here.
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Uh, about that yet.
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You good? What? Today? What did I bounce it on? Just out of nowhere.
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Well, that was no.
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So I was glad you came in is quick If you did, because I was just started scratch the surface of it.
00:02:25
The idea of this now saying the trade trade rumors right around Goldberg, This popped, um um after cove in 19.
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It seemed like that was the breaking point for many Thompson Mitchell, where he was like case You're wondering, I've had a problem, this guy for a while, and this is just like the straw that broke the camel's back for him.
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And that's where all this stuff it started to bubble up about.
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Does Mitchell really like playing with him? And would the Jazz be in the march to possibly move on from home? So the first thing, the first thing I just highlight it was the cap space right now for the jazz.
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They got about 20 million, including the dead cap.
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So they have They have some real flexibility because Mitchell is on such a reasonable team deal right now.
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Um, and there's some bodies like a Jordan Clarkson making 13.
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5 1,000,000 on.
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Then you really just get into the Connelly's and, you know, go Bayer at 25 there.
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So they have some flexibility as far as during being able to bring in some other big name bodies.
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But let's just on the surface Do you think that there's riel potential legs to this, because the one thing that I started to question myself was, Do the Utah Jazz look at this roster right now and think we're Western Conference Finals Were finals appearances over next couple of years because you got both L. A teams.
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And if you don't? Then I think that that's the first Cod to say maybe moving Goldberg would make sense that, um, it's tricky because he's a big part of what they dio.
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So that's kind of like why I'm not really sure what they look like without him in a lot of ways.
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So if you move somebody like Rudy Gobert, I mean, who honest of the Jazz like defensively really tailed off quite a bit this year.
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That's kind of been there, what they're builds off of.
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So if you move somebody like Rudy go bare.
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What is your identity exactly? Like Donovan Mitchell's have had a very nice year.
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Um, efficient volume score, which is what you're looking for.
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Ah, Bogdanovich is a really nice player, a little bit older, and then after that, it's like I don't really know what this team is in a lot of ways.
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So I would assume what they would do before they moved her to go bare.
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Or, you know, if if they don't because the thing is like if they don't agree to an extension, then it becomes a little bit of like, OK, Rudy, Go Bear.
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He's been an All Star this last year.
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Um, he's always in the running for all MBA at his position.
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This is the guy that thinks most likely pretty highly of himself as a player, and he deserves it.
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He's one defensive players of the year.
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He's, I think, the big reason the Jazz are where they are.
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But if they aren't able to agree to an extension, I would wonder about him leaving.
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But my assumption is that they try to move that Conley deal and just it's not gonna be easy.
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But if there's a way to move that and move money around that way and bring somebody in that fits them a little bit better.
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They were just better when they had the ball on Donovan Mitchell's hands.
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That's kind of like what this came down to this year was like, You know, there was all this.
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It was funny because last year you watched them in the playoffs.
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And you know Donovan Mitchell.
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He has this horror, horrific, horrific playoff experience playoff.
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I guess it's second playoff experience, and it all came down to like, Well, there's just not enough help around him.
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Mike Conley.
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I don't know if that was the help you needed.
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Think Brooke on a ***** was a much better suit to that.
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It wasn't necessarily a backcourt partner.
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He needed a guy like Bogdanovich who can create his own shot a little bit.
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I'm also really, really works well off the ball and doesn't require the bonus.
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Hands might have been the perfect fit for somebody like Donovan Mitchell, so I would you would move it that way.
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They wouldn't trade really go there just yet.
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No, because you think, too, that, like maybe that was the experiment that you thought was gonna work out of having Donovan not happen beyond the ball all the time.
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And all of a sudden it will free him up and make it easier with Connolly there, then just trial.
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But, you know, trial by error, if you find out.
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Actually, we needed to have the ball in his hands, which makes Connolly.
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They look like a little bit of, ah, of the worst move there to get him in the door.
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The only thing, I guess because the hard thing is too is you're right.
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It's like, say that you want to move on from Conley, no matter what.
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Because the max contract.
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And then if you rule on for ago bear like you're talking about, then just sitting Mitchell.
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All right, man, I think it is you.
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Is you on this island that I don't think that that's a market where you can afford to give up something, Give up what you know for the unknown, and then maybe find yourself two or three years out of line being like boy we've really loved without of the Mitchells given us, and unfortunately, there are enough pieces around it, and a lot of those pieces like you mentioned Joe Ingles like all these guys were getting older.
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So now you're talking about meeting Teoh infused with youth around him.
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The interesting that I will say so.
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The first thing is Gobert and Mitchell, even if they don't like each other, they complement each other perfectly like rapture, rapture, making something that I've been like, Really, I enjoyed noodling around lately, Uh, Mitchell net negative on the defensive end, but really good on the offensive end.
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Gobert giving you nothing offensively, necessarily, but extremely efficient on the defense event Number one in rapture rating in the league.
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So that's that balance of Of what? You don't have to worry about his Mitchell and not what you're looking for, Entity defending at the rim or something.
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But that's the compliment that you're getting out of these guys right now.
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If I go away, if I go down the road of the possibility because I think adios.
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If they don't sign him, would they consider trading well, of course they could.
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They would, because we don't have him on the extension.
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You're not just going to play out his final year and then say thanks so much, you know, enjoy the open market.
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He's an expiring contract at that point.
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Attractive, still now attractive.
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Just about anybody, especially in this market.
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Which, by the way, could be, um, could be tricky the next two year.
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Yeah, there's a lot of other.
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There's a lot of other things happening around that, too, as far as what other teams will look to dio.
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So I'll throw this idea because I started to think about what some of the other teams that line up in the same range that will have young centers that potentially could be a nice swap if these air teams that are looking to win championships, this came up there along the way.
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At some point, of course I'll go, Homer.
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The Brooklyn Nets are.
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You know, that's an attractive scenario where you go Jared Allen, a guy that I'm a fan of.
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But, hey, you want to get a young center that isn't nearly as proven, and you want couple years and already well into luxury tax.
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They're not survive a little bit extra.
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The other one that, though that scratched my brain was the Miami Heat and saying, and it's not a like for like necessarily like Obama Auto Bio again, another young player that personally I would keep them, I think, because of so that the Heat are an interesting team, because they are like we talked about how the the Jazz or between eras almost there between errors.
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But, like in a way, that's positively kind of what the Celtics we're shooting for within that Kyrie.
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And they had Jalen and Jayson Tatum kind of representing that Nextera.
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I like the Heat for.
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In that way, I would I would probably refrain from doing that just yet. Started.
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T cut you all.
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But that's so interesting, right? Like when? When Miami brings in Butler, it re infuses them in a way.
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But I think you're like I think you're right, though he's really the stem the Tide guy for them.
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While they're while some of these younger pieces get ready to take over the team as opposed to being like I don't know, I charities to think that Pat Riley with how they feel, But I don't in my mind, I don't look at it as we brought in Butler for a championship run.
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I look at it more as a key that's really competitive.
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Keeps it in the playoffs, which is the with the Miami Heat.
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Had done a great John it right? So another one.
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I'm thinking I'm just trying to get teams that could use him on and could use a center.
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Um, Golden State would be an interesting destination.
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I don't know, like if they could dio if you think about where their pick lands, if they got that pick and say Wiggins to make salary match or if they were like, yeah, I mean, you could even do like a dream money.
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So that was pretty interesting to me.
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Just thinking about this off the top of my head.
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I'm just trying to like, spitball something quick, but that's pretty cool.
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But even like you said, like you think about because I think everyone's consensus is kind of like Draymond Green is the first guy that's gonna fall off a cliff if he hasn't kind of already shown that.
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You know, that little inclusion you're like this is not going to look good, and neither is that contract.
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But for the downside, there is, like in left, that pick fold in a really sweet spot for Utah.
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It's gonna take more like, Hey, do you wanna down? So you want a down sliding Draymond green for the Utah Jazz like that? That's the problem.
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Action that up.
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But even just the at the top of your head throwing that out there of the Golden State Warriors, injuring themselves into a lottery pick and then using it to bring in a 28 29 year old Rudy Gobert that immediately they get catapulted right back up.
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Then we'll be talking about the Western three.
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The West dominated by three teams, all in California.
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It's pretty sweet.
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That seems pretty sweet because, I mean, you think about like what he isn't and that's pretty much an offensive threat.
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I'm trying like I'm just gonna think of a destination where that really wouldn't matter all that much.
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I mean, you worry a little bit about, like if they're gonna be that switch double, but I mean, you know what then? Like, I think that dream is kind of done it, or it will be done in the next couple of years, depending upon what Draymond looks like.
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It's an interesting way to give it into the next generation, I guess of Warriors basketball.
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It's a deficit.
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I think it's a total philosophy change in a way offensively, that you just get so much out of clay and stuff that I think that you almost you don't really worry about having him in the in the ah, in crunch time.
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Those guys just can.
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I don't really That twosome is incredible, but defensively they be different.
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It would be a different look.
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A team that would shift toe like a drop coverage team almost.
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And I don't know.
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I have to go to a veteran team that says He said, taking a big swing it for things.
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And what better team is there in the league right now at that, then Golden State? Yeah, I don't know why I just thought about Ah, uh, I thought about how many pieces how many players are movable on what other perspectives like.
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For example, Anthony Davis doesn't like to play center real them.
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He likes to be a power forward, okay, and LeBron can be really dominant if you if you slide him down to the shooting with the shooting a little bit like if I want to have fun you know, You know, maybe on that I'm still getting over under the Lakers and let him be a dominant defensive anchor for them and create that three piece there like anything, Even if it is for a two year, you know that short two year stint like that tight window that you're talking about tryto make like Dwight in travails minutes Effectively, I like that.
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You know, it's just like it's also about seems that are willing to throw totally into the idea of Brooklyn about whether that works, not just like, who don't care right now.
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Money is no object.
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We'll deal with whatever the ramifications are.
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We just want to try to bank some championships as quickly as we can, like those of the teams that have you willing to sacrifice because one of the other ones like looking at those young contract that are coming up and you come across like, 18 there in Phoenix, We're like, Yeah, but what is Phoenix want gold? What? I won't go bare for on Phoenix right now is opposed to whatever eight is gonna turn into over the course of it.
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So, like, those are some of the interesting ones, too.
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I wanted to man this.
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That was I want to pull up Boston's A one.
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I would I would get about that if you would not be funny.
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If Hayward was back in Utah, that stuff ends of factor.
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Three.
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Guy that was going, Yeah, see you later, man.
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We'll start our rebuild.
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And then three years ago, I think they'll be interesting.
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Like if you if you throw him and they're just is like one more cow because they needed that rebounder and, uh and just like I, I think there's a couple of things that they could use.
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I think they could use another shooter, so obviously you're not getting that.
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But you do get a rebounder and, like Total Rim protector.
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Although I liked ice, I think he's really good.
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I think he's an underrated player, but you know, if you give them one more option like they have like the switch Hable you know, a little bit stretchy center and then you also have like a Rudy Go bear.
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That's a pretty that seems got like one or two guys at every single position, which is a total bounty to have.
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So who's looking as a total aside that, like that Boston team, is just so funny to see, like how well balanced they've been over the years.
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And then now, like, it's like Tatum is just about ready to really launch himself off.
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And you're like, Oh, so I guess we'll just be good now for another, like there another 5 to 7 years away from having real concerns about not being a top four seed knees.
00:15:02
Yeah, which is feels insulting as the next man.
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Yeah. I mean, you know, it is.
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It is only a couple of nets fix doing all the dirty work, So, uh, yeah, yeah, it's even worse.
00:15:13
So I was just thinking about, like, on the surface, this is the next and in general, let alone the fact that they're being fueled by literally, aren't what could have been our roster fix? How about ah, how about the pelicans? So you're taking me What? Would you What would you be moving? Would you be moving? Oh, my on a movie? Actually, I'll move the oddly young, uh, Jalil Okafor, who I just realized, is only 24 years old, and I'm not saying that there's a like, for, like, value there, but that be more of an ass.
00:15:42
It's probably thing right, like you're probably you're probably moving some of those residual assets you got from the Lakers for a D and Sam.
00:15:50
Okay, here's last year's picks for you and we'll get back over Bailey because if you're the pelicans make, you could make the case that it looked like you were just sniffing it.
00:16:01
And the NBA's set up perfectly for them to take his eight game run and get into the playoffs.
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And then it makes the case for, you know, like like having holiday on this team and not feeling like you could move.
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Offer him a little bit older like, Unfortunately, I don't think that it makes you, ah, Western Conference Final team necessarily.
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But it's also based on the fact that you don't really know what this roster entirely can accomplish yet, because you only got what you know four or five games at his eye on.
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So you don't know what that looks like yet plugging Goldberg and know that the defensive end is kind of anchored for you.
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Kick around, start becoming a top four top five team, knowing that the Rockets are a year away from stripping that thing apart, probably.
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And seeing Westbrook maybe got like, I don't know what they're going to do.
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And outside of L.
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A see L.
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A teams and maybe what Golden State does in a review.
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Like, you know, the other thing about it to me, is to if you're some of these teams you think about like the big market teams who are like, man, what we want to win a championship.
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But then you think about other other markets that go, Can we make ourselves just competitive? You know, could we make ourselves a top five seed in either conference and know that that could be something we hang our hat on for a few years? Because that's that's Justus, valuable for a mid market team as opposed to risking falling into like, a relevance by being like, Oh, we're not attracting free agents on a standstill.
00:17:23
So you do that that risk reward thing off, we're gonna bring a guy here and hope that we can sell them on on what we have shown the value, and then we get to signed that extension with a couple things that done that in the last couple of years and like it didn't work out for Toronto.
00:17:36
But they it didn't work, affects around if they got a championship.
00:17:39
But they took the risk of bringing Kawai and saying, We'll take whatever we get for this season.
00:17:43
Unfortunately, I don't think the pelicans are local.
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Bear away from being like Czech champions.
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You? Yeah, I mean, they have.
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I think they're by the time he's really like.
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By the time I think the pelicans will be ready.
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He'll be in a different stage of his career.
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Like at best, I think in a couple of years he can try to do like, a little bit what Marcus scolded for the Raptors.
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And, yeah, I have a little bit of Don't call it dead money.
00:18:06
But a lot of money is still on his books, but sort of be treated as like this role playing midlevel ass it, even though he makes it, obviously and ah, and maybe that would be what his role would be.
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It wouldn't necessarily be is a pivotal piece.
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I think he's at, like, 1 to 2 years left.
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I would assume of Riel, not I mean, you could say star level production.
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I wouldn't take offence.
00:18:29
Well, it isn't that the problem to write, like if you're Utah right now, because one of the things they're saying was like Mitchell and Gilbert aren't from a talent standpoint, they're not the next, you know, stocking him alone.
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Talent wise, maybe, yes, but they're not coming up at the same time.
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So the eight age you're not doing it together where it's like, Oh, and then we'll extend you together and you play this career together.
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And even if you don't win a championship, we're still gonna have quality play because the point that you bring up about about Goldberg and what the high end quality play is left on him.
00:18:57
That's the danger, I think, for Utah of signing him to that extension, it being a relatively large number and and then fall him falling off a little bit and saying, Now you end up just being kind of a cap liability for us.
00:19:12
It's a tough spot to be in.
00:19:14
If you're Utah man, like if you get if you get rid of them in the short term, you're not gonna be a good a team.
00:19:20
And if you keep him in the long term, you're probably going to then end up putting yourself in a tricky spot of maybe wasting some of Mitchell's prime years.
00:19:28
Because you're saddled with this center that isn't quite as effective.
00:19:31
Anybody any, really is only a one ends guy, right? He's a defensive presence.
00:19:35
He's not going to give you a lot of value on the offensive end.
00:19:38
He's not extending out his game and with perimeter shooting as well.
00:19:41
Like so it's also where the MBA has gone the last few years.
00:19:44
That pigeonholes him a little bit.
00:19:46
In some ways, I'm also not sure how high on Mitchell I am like, I kind of fluctuate quite a bit.
00:19:52
I think that the vision for what they would be doing this year or our guest in the next two years, if they were to keep go bear was like hope that you get a sort of like Miami heat number.
00:20:05
Run at it where you have this Rabaul dominant guard.
00:20:07
You run everything through him.
00:20:09
He trots valleys, he gets to the rim and then you have just like a big man.
00:20:13
I'm not saying you know even late Career Shack is comparable to go bare from a size 10 point alone.
00:20:19
Just yeah, you got That's a similar Bills, but I mean, I guess that would be the vision of it, but I don't know.
00:20:27
I don't know if I see Mitchell getting their toe like that level of being an 06 d Wade type of player.
00:20:34
I don't know.
00:20:35
I Okay, you know what? I have my doubts with him.
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Like there's a couple of things like this recent, the recent thing about him just wanting to, like, get a Max contract that's always worried about right now, which is like, All right, I mean, I guess that's the statements that that are gonna come out about.
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I love a lot of money, Please.
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I think he's the classic like, labeled as a total defensive guy, and he's just like Weird would become a little bit of a liability on that end of the floor.
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There's just a couple things where I'm like I don't know, and it may just be that he's exerted so much effort on offense.
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But this year he had a little bit of more, so I just thought he had more support around him in terms of the offense.
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And I don't know how is my favorite thing when I feel like a guy loses sight of, like what he's was brought into the lead to dio in a lot of ways, Well, because it's one of things I wonder about.
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It's like the deal thing right where they go in this do just doesn't care about defense.
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And you're like, Well, it could also be that it's a product of the system that they're just like, Listen, based on what we have here, you're not gonna worry about defense.
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We want you to do offensively now.
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You'd like to think that because you have Gobert on the Jazz.
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If Mitchell was really homed in, that could become something that they anchor themselves around.
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Uh, get the door on this snowman.
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Guards are very as, Ah and I think, as my as my as my podcast.
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Coz Doug was like, These are guys that you confined.
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You can find players that that serve those roles, finding whether or not there's some limitations to his game.
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Ah, gold Bayer.
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That can really impact the defensive end of the floor for you.
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Is there any? Is there any world where if you were the ah, if you were the Utah Jazz, you Would you be open to moving Mitchell before you end up re upping that big contract and saying, You know, what's the big picture for us? Do we look better in the short term as an older team with Connolly and Goldberger and Angles and Name X other players going to say even that Golden State thing? Not that this isn't like for life, but it's like, Oh, we could get a get a Wiggins in.
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You know, we can get in a couple of other pieces from another roster and we'll see what happens.
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But if we don't see ourselves as a deep playoff run team with Mitchell, regardless of moving gold there or not, when do when do we make that choice? Right? And it's like in the Southern teams.
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Never do is like pull the trigger on young talent.
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Relatively speaking, Um, and it's not like his floor was ever as low as Wigan's got God with time with generals.
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But it's something interesting, right? Looks like What is the best summation of parts for us toe have success.
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And how do you maybe give the public ridicule being like, I can't believe you traded away a 23 year old guard.
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You know, I think he's not quite, but I just think there's too much of a track record with him now of like him being a successful player on DSA.
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Someone, at least it feels like he can lead an offense to, like, be a really like this player on a playoff team.
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So I would probably say right now, no, Um, I don't think he's like a Tyreke Evans or somebody like that, Kind of like a flash in the pan type of guy.
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It just seems like there's real proven MBA talent, so and if they were to deal of now, I would I would come down on them pretty hard to be like, I just don't know, like where you're going to start over and basically hope to get another Donovan Mitchell like.
00:23:50
That's kind of I always worry about doing that.
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It was like when the Knicks traded for Zynga's.
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It's like, why? Why would you do that? Like you're just gonna What are you hoping for your hoping to get another poor Zynga's in a draft, where it's like, you know, he's one of the three most promising players in his class, maybe four.
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I guess we'll get the next most promising guy.
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It's like I don't know.
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I mean, I don't know.
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So I threw the who gets to move to move, go bare if you can't repair it between those guys.
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But I you know, maybe I'm being done here, but I would try to run it back and see if there's if it's just a weird situation with the MBA right now, like I don't know what it's gonna look like in the next a couple of years.
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So you may.
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You may not.
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Getting Mitchell on a Max deal that ends up being a bunch 14 friend of real curry Curries Deal when he signed it for the Warriors, weirdly enough to bring them up for the third unexpected time tearing up the the Golden State Warriors stream that we're doing here? Yeah, I think I think you're I think it's unfortunate and I think you're right.
00:24:49
Like it's like, this is the nature of some of these things.
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You end up, you give Mitchell Max contract, and it's not because he's not good, but like that's what you dio and you and then you see, you see what the next couple of years look like.
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You see how you move Connelly's contact, if you can.
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When does go bare fall off a little bit? Can you then move his contract a little bit later on his extension? And unfortunately for some of these market seems like this is just what happens.
00:25:13
You end up with a really good player and Mitchell and you try to shuffle pieces.
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But you don't necessarily ever have the opportunity to go into free agency and say, Oh, you know, what I'd love to do is challenge the Lakers to be ableto who wanted, obviously bring back a d.
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We look to the able to put a pack, you know, attracting here, and he's just never gonna do it.
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He's never going to make that move.
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Rumor: Rudy Gobert could become available in trade talks if he doesn’t sign extension with Jazz

The rift between Rudy Gobert and Donovan Mitchell could be cause for some headaches within the Utah Jazz, yet not many believe their recent tiff will be a driving factor in roster decisions the franchise makes in the near future. “I think it’s fine,” an Eastern Conference executive told ESPN’s Tim Bontemps. “The Jazz have […]

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you hear that? The bigger numbers are Rudy Gobert a 25 million, essentially, ah, 32 million for Connolly Bogdanovich there at 17 million.
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By the way, A lot of Mitchell remember on that contract was 23 years old, making 3.
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6 million.
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So it's not like we're really getting, you know, a really a big hit there right now for them, so maximizing that value is important as well.
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And as we see, Matt Brooks has joined him in a way for him to sit down here.
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And it's perfect, because this way, I don't have to go to the down this rabbit hole before I get Matt on.
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There is yeah, headquartered in here, Buddy Court that here, right up as they will get himself situated there on our of course SportsCastr co hosting feature, and we'll continue to kick around some of these numbers.
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And then I already started to have some of these thoughts around Ah, possible trade partners in this, And if they were going to go that rap, I also have my more maybe specific thoughts around the idea, as if this is ever going to be the case for Rudy Gobert being moved on from from the Utah Jazz.
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We'll find out soon enough.
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Hello? Hello, sir.
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How are you? Hello, Good, sir.
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Did I know you're a good man off into this as well? What have you been? That that's the best part about the new SportsCastr Coast feature is that you just don you come rate in it.
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Just like that.
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Realise that? Sorry.
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Yeah, but it out yet? I haven't tried it.
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Know what? Listen, this is true. This is traveling fire.
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Thanks for coming in.
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Thanks for coming into my head is a globe.
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Right now.
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This thing is I have never looked.
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I have never looked more zoomed into is their right it zoom out of this.
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I don't know from adjustment standpoint, I think that's you, man. This is it.
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This is just comparatively Whitehead has never felt more reasonably sized than it does right now.
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That's ridiculous.
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I don't know why.
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I don't know why I was in charge of movement.
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You're the face the face of the franchise, you know? I mean, you got to get that.
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You got to get out of the cameras.
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Yeah, I guess so.
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This is this is my head shot right here.
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Uh, about that yet.
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You good? What? Today? What did I bounce it on? Just out of nowhere.
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Well, that was no.
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So I was glad you came in is quick If you did, because I was just started scratch the surface of it.
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The idea of this now saying the trade trade rumors right around Goldberg, This popped, um um after cove in 19.
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It seemed like that was the breaking point for many Thompson Mitchell, where he was like case You're wondering, I've had a problem, this guy for a while, and this is just like the straw that broke the camel's back for him.
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And that's where all this stuff it started to bubble up about.
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Does Mitchell really like playing with him? And would the Jazz be in the march to possibly move on from home? So the first thing, the first thing I just highlight it was the cap space right now for the jazz.
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They got about 20 million, including the dead cap.
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So they have They have some real flexibility because Mitchell is on such a reasonable team deal right now.
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Um, and there's some bodies like a Jordan Clarkson making 13.
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5 1,000,000 on.
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Then you really just get into the Connelly's and, you know, go Bayer at 25 there.
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So they have some flexibility as far as during being able to bring in some other big name bodies.
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But let's just on the surface Do you think that there's riel potential legs to this, because the one thing that I started to question myself was, Do the Utah Jazz look at this roster right now and think we're Western Conference Finals Were finals appearances over next couple of years because you got both L. A teams.
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And if you don't? Then I think that that's the first Cod to say maybe moving Goldberg would make sense that, um, it's tricky because he's a big part of what they dio.
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So that's kind of like why I'm not really sure what they look like without him in a lot of ways.
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So if you move somebody like Rudy Gobert, I mean, who honest of the Jazz like defensively really tailed off quite a bit this year.
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That's kind of been there, what they're builds off of.
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So if you move somebody like Rudy go bare.
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What is your identity exactly? Like Donovan Mitchell's have had a very nice year.
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Um, efficient volume score, which is what you're looking for.
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Ah, Bogdanovich is a really nice player, a little bit older, and then after that, it's like I don't really know what this team is in a lot of ways.
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So I would assume what they would do before they moved her to go bare.
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Or, you know, if if they don't because the thing is like if they don't agree to an extension, then it becomes a little bit of like, OK, Rudy, Go Bear.
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He's been an All Star this last year.
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Um, he's always in the running for all MBA at his position.
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This is the guy that thinks most likely pretty highly of himself as a player, and he deserves it.
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He's one defensive players of the year.
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He's, I think, the big reason the Jazz are where they are.
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But if they aren't able to agree to an extension, I would wonder about him leaving.
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But my assumption is that they try to move that Conley deal and just it's not gonna be easy.
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But if there's a way to move that and move money around that way and bring somebody in that fits them a little bit better.
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They were just better when they had the ball on Donovan Mitchell's hands.
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That's kind of like what this came down to this year was like, You know, there was all this.
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It was funny because last year you watched them in the playoffs.
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And you know Donovan Mitchell.
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He has this horror, horrific, horrific playoff experience playoff.
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I guess it's second playoff experience, and it all came down to like, Well, there's just not enough help around him.
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Mike Conley.
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I don't know if that was the help you needed.
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Think Brooke on a ***** was a much better suit to that.
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It wasn't necessarily a backcourt partner.
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He needed a guy like Bogdanovich who can create his own shot a little bit.
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I'm also really, really works well off the ball and doesn't require the bonus.
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Hands might have been the perfect fit for somebody like Donovan Mitchell, so I would you would move it that way.
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They wouldn't trade really go there just yet.
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No, because you think, too, that, like maybe that was the experiment that you thought was gonna work out of having Donovan not happen beyond the ball all the time.
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And all of a sudden it will free him up and make it easier with Connolly there, then just trial.
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But, you know, trial by error, if you find out.
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Actually, we needed to have the ball in his hands, which makes Connolly.
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They look like a little bit of, ah, of the worst move there to get him in the door.
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The only thing, I guess because the hard thing is too is you're right.
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It's like, say that you want to move on from Conley, no matter what.
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Because the max contract.
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And then if you rule on for ago bear like you're talking about, then just sitting Mitchell.
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All right, man, I think it is you.
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Is you on this island that I don't think that that's a market where you can afford to give up something, Give up what you know for the unknown, and then maybe find yourself two or three years out of line being like boy we've really loved without of the Mitchells given us, and unfortunately, there are enough pieces around it, and a lot of those pieces like you mentioned Joe Ingles like all these guys were getting older.
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So now you're talking about meeting Teoh infused with youth around him.
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The interesting that I will say so.
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The first thing is Gobert and Mitchell, even if they don't like each other, they complement each other perfectly like rapture, rapture, making something that I've been like, Really, I enjoyed noodling around lately, Uh, Mitchell net negative on the defensive end, but really good on the offensive end.
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Gobert giving you nothing offensively, necessarily, but extremely efficient on the defense event Number one in rapture rating in the league.
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So that's that balance of Of what? You don't have to worry about his Mitchell and not what you're looking for, Entity defending at the rim or something.
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But that's the compliment that you're getting out of these guys right now.
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If I go away, if I go down the road of the possibility because I think adios.
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If they don't sign him, would they consider trading well, of course they could.
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They would, because we don't have him on the extension.
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You're not just going to play out his final year and then say thanks so much, you know, enjoy the open market.
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He's an expiring contract at that point.
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Attractive, still now attractive.
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Just about anybody, especially in this market.
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Which, by the way, could be, um, could be tricky the next two year.
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Yeah, there's a lot of other.
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There's a lot of other things happening around that, too, as far as what other teams will look to dio.
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So I'll throw this idea because I started to think about what some of the other teams that line up in the same range that will have young centers that potentially could be a nice swap if these air teams that are looking to win championships, this came up there along the way.
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At some point, of course I'll go, Homer.
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The Brooklyn Nets are.
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You know, that's an attractive scenario where you go Jared Allen, a guy that I'm a fan of.
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But, hey, you want to get a young center that isn't nearly as proven, and you want couple years and already well into luxury tax.
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They're not survive a little bit extra.
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The other one that, though that scratched my brain was the Miami Heat and saying, and it's not a like for like necessarily like Obama Auto Bio again, another young player that personally I would keep them, I think, because of so that the Heat are an interesting team, because they are like we talked about how the the Jazz or between eras almost there between errors.
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But, like in a way, that's positively kind of what the Celtics we're shooting for within that Kyrie.
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And they had Jalen and Jayson Tatum kind of representing that Nextera.
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I like the Heat for.
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In that way, I would I would probably refrain from doing that just yet. Started.
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T cut you all.
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But that's so interesting, right? Like when? When Miami brings in Butler, it re infuses them in a way.
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But I think you're like I think you're right, though he's really the stem the Tide guy for them.
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While they're while some of these younger pieces get ready to take over the team as opposed to being like I don't know, I charities to think that Pat Riley with how they feel, But I don't in my mind, I don't look at it as we brought in Butler for a championship run.
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I look at it more as a key that's really competitive.
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Keeps it in the playoffs, which is the with the Miami Heat.
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Had done a great John it right? So another one.
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I'm thinking I'm just trying to get teams that could use him on and could use a center.
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Um, Golden State would be an interesting destination.
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I don't know, like if they could dio if you think about where their pick lands, if they got that pick and say Wiggins to make salary match or if they were like, yeah, I mean, you could even do like a dream money.
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So that was pretty interesting to me.
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Just thinking about this off the top of my head.
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I'm just trying to like, spitball something quick, but that's pretty cool.
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But even like you said, like you think about because I think everyone's consensus is kind of like Draymond Green is the first guy that's gonna fall off a cliff if he hasn't kind of already shown that.
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You know, that little inclusion you're like this is not going to look good, and neither is that contract.
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But for the downside, there is, like in left, that pick fold in a really sweet spot for Utah.
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It's gonna take more like, Hey, do you wanna down? So you want a down sliding Draymond green for the Utah Jazz like that? That's the problem.
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Action that up.
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But even just the at the top of your head throwing that out there of the Golden State Warriors, injuring themselves into a lottery pick and then using it to bring in a 28 29 year old Rudy Gobert that immediately they get catapulted right back up.
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Then we'll be talking about the Western three.
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The West dominated by three teams, all in California.
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It's pretty sweet.
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That seems pretty sweet because, I mean, you think about like what he isn't and that's pretty much an offensive threat.
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I'm trying like I'm just gonna think of a destination where that really wouldn't matter all that much.
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I mean, you worry a little bit about, like if they're gonna be that switch double, but I mean, you know what then? Like, I think that dream is kind of done it, or it will be done in the next couple of years, depending upon what Draymond looks like.
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It's an interesting way to give it into the next generation, I guess of Warriors basketball.
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It's a deficit.
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I think it's a total philosophy change in a way offensively, that you just get so much out of clay and stuff that I think that you almost you don't really worry about having him in the in the ah, in crunch time.
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Those guys just can.
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I don't really That twosome is incredible, but defensively they be different.
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It would be a different look.
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A team that would shift toe like a drop coverage team almost.
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And I don't know.
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I have to go to a veteran team that says He said, taking a big swing it for things.
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And what better team is there in the league right now at that, then Golden State? Yeah, I don't know why I just thought about Ah, uh, I thought about how many pieces how many players are movable on what other perspectives like.
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For example, Anthony Davis doesn't like to play center real them.
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He likes to be a power forward, okay, and LeBron can be really dominant if you if you slide him down to the shooting with the shooting a little bit like if I want to have fun you know, You know, maybe on that I'm still getting over under the Lakers and let him be a dominant defensive anchor for them and create that three piece there like anything, Even if it is for a two year, you know that short two year stint like that tight window that you're talking about tryto make like Dwight in travails minutes Effectively, I like that.
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You know, it's just like it's also about seems that are willing to throw totally into the idea of Brooklyn about whether that works, not just like, who don't care right now.
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Money is no object.
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We'll deal with whatever the ramifications are.
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We just want to try to bank some championships as quickly as we can, like those of the teams that have you willing to sacrifice because one of the other ones like looking at those young contract that are coming up and you come across like, 18 there in Phoenix, We're like, Yeah, but what is Phoenix want gold? What? I won't go bare for on Phoenix right now is opposed to whatever eight is gonna turn into over the course of it.
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So, like, those are some of the interesting ones, too.
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I wanted to man this.
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That was I want to pull up Boston's A one.
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I would I would get about that if you would not be funny.
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If Hayward was back in Utah, that stuff ends of factor.
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Three.
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Guy that was going, Yeah, see you later, man.
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We'll start our rebuild.
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And then three years ago, I think they'll be interesting.
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Like if you if you throw him and they're just is like one more cow because they needed that rebounder and, uh and just like I, I think there's a couple of things that they could use.
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I think they could use another shooter, so obviously you're not getting that.
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But you do get a rebounder and, like Total Rim protector.
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Although I liked ice, I think he's really good.
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I think he's an underrated player, but you know, if you give them one more option like they have like the switch Hable you know, a little bit stretchy center and then you also have like a Rudy Go bear.
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That's a pretty that seems got like one or two guys at every single position, which is a total bounty to have.
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So who's looking as a total aside that, like that Boston team, is just so funny to see, like how well balanced they've been over the years.
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And then now, like, it's like Tatum is just about ready to really launch himself off.
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And you're like, Oh, so I guess we'll just be good now for another, like there another 5 to 7 years away from having real concerns about not being a top four seed knees.
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Yeah, which is feels insulting as the next man.
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Yeah. I mean, you know, it is.
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It is only a couple of nets fix doing all the dirty work, So, uh, yeah, yeah, it's even worse.
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So I was just thinking about, like, on the surface, this is the next and in general, let alone the fact that they're being fueled by literally, aren't what could have been our roster fix? How about ah, how about the pelicans? So you're taking me What? Would you What would you be moving? Would you be moving? Oh, my on a movie? Actually, I'll move the oddly young, uh, Jalil Okafor, who I just realized, is only 24 years old, and I'm not saying that there's a like, for, like, value there, but that be more of an ass.
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It's probably thing right, like you're probably you're probably moving some of those residual assets you got from the Lakers for a D and Sam.
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Okay, here's last year's picks for you and we'll get back over Bailey because if you're the pelicans make, you could make the case that it looked like you were just sniffing it.
00:16:01
And the NBA's set up perfectly for them to take his eight game run and get into the playoffs.
00:16:05
And then it makes the case for, you know, like like having holiday on this team and not feeling like you could move.
00:16:10
Offer him a little bit older like, Unfortunately, I don't think that it makes you, ah, Western Conference Final team necessarily.
00:16:17
But it's also based on the fact that you don't really know what this roster entirely can accomplish yet, because you only got what you know four or five games at his eye on.
00:16:26
So you don't know what that looks like yet plugging Goldberg and know that the defensive end is kind of anchored for you.
00:16:31
Kick around, start becoming a top four top five team, knowing that the Rockets are a year away from stripping that thing apart, probably.
00:16:39
And seeing Westbrook maybe got like, I don't know what they're going to do.
00:16:42
And outside of L.
00:16:45
A see L.
00:16:46
A teams and maybe what Golden State does in a review.
00:16:48
Like, you know, the other thing about it to me, is to if you're some of these teams you think about like the big market teams who are like, man, what we want to win a championship.
00:16:59
But then you think about other other markets that go, Can we make ourselves just competitive? You know, could we make ourselves a top five seed in either conference and know that that could be something we hang our hat on for a few years? Because that's that's Justus, valuable for a mid market team as opposed to risking falling into like, a relevance by being like, Oh, we're not attracting free agents on a standstill.
00:17:23
So you do that that risk reward thing off, we're gonna bring a guy here and hope that we can sell them on on what we have shown the value, and then we get to signed that extension with a couple things that done that in the last couple of years and like it didn't work out for Toronto.
00:17:36
But they it didn't work, affects around if they got a championship.
00:17:39
But they took the risk of bringing Kawai and saying, We'll take whatever we get for this season.
00:17:43
Unfortunately, I don't think the pelicans are local.
00:17:46
Bear away from being like Czech champions.
00:17:49
You? Yeah, I mean, they have.
00:17:50
I think they're by the time he's really like.
00:17:53
By the time I think the pelicans will be ready.
00:17:54
He'll be in a different stage of his career.
00:17:56
Like at best, I think in a couple of years he can try to do like, a little bit what Marcus scolded for the Raptors.
00:18:02
And, yeah, I have a little bit of Don't call it dead money.
00:18:06
But a lot of money is still on his books, but sort of be treated as like this role playing midlevel ass it, even though he makes it, obviously and ah, and maybe that would be what his role would be.
00:18:17
It wouldn't necessarily be is a pivotal piece.
00:18:19
I think he's at, like, 1 to 2 years left.
00:18:22
I would assume of Riel, not I mean, you could say star level production.
00:18:27
I wouldn't take offence.
00:18:29
Well, it isn't that the problem to write, like if you're Utah right now, because one of the things they're saying was like Mitchell and Gilbert aren't from a talent standpoint, they're not the next, you know, stocking him alone.
00:18:39
Talent wise, maybe, yes, but they're not coming up at the same time.
00:18:43
So the eight age you're not doing it together where it's like, Oh, and then we'll extend you together and you play this career together.
00:18:48
And even if you don't win a championship, we're still gonna have quality play because the point that you bring up about about Goldberg and what the high end quality play is left on him.
00:18:57
That's the danger, I think, for Utah of signing him to that extension, it being a relatively large number and and then fall him falling off a little bit and saying, Now you end up just being kind of a cap liability for us.
00:19:12
It's a tough spot to be in.
00:19:14
If you're Utah man, like if you get if you get rid of them in the short term, you're not gonna be a good a team.
00:19:20
And if you keep him in the long term, you're probably going to then end up putting yourself in a tricky spot of maybe wasting some of Mitchell's prime years.
00:19:28
Because you're saddled with this center that isn't quite as effective.
00:19:31
Anybody any, really is only a one ends guy, right? He's a defensive presence.
00:19:35
He's not going to give you a lot of value on the offensive end.
00:19:38
He's not extending out his game and with perimeter shooting as well.
00:19:41
Like so it's also where the MBA has gone the last few years.
00:19:44
That pigeonholes him a little bit.
00:19:46
In some ways, I'm also not sure how high on Mitchell I am like, I kind of fluctuate quite a bit.
00:19:52
I think that the vision for what they would be doing this year or our guest in the next two years, if they were to keep go bear was like hope that you get a sort of like Miami heat number.
00:20:05
Run at it where you have this Rabaul dominant guard.
00:20:07
You run everything through him.
00:20:09
He trots valleys, he gets to the rim and then you have just like a big man.
00:20:13
I'm not saying you know even late Career Shack is comparable to go bare from a size 10 point alone.
00:20:19
Just yeah, you got That's a similar Bills, but I mean, I guess that would be the vision of it, but I don't know.
00:20:27
I don't know if I see Mitchell getting their toe like that level of being an 06 d Wade type of player.
00:20:34
I don't know.
00:20:35
I Okay, you know what? I have my doubts with him.
00:20:37
Like there's a couple of things like this recent, the recent thing about him just wanting to, like, get a Max contract that's always worried about right now, which is like, All right, I mean, I guess that's the statements that that are gonna come out about.
00:20:51
I love a lot of money, Please.
00:20:53
I think he's the classic like, labeled as a total defensive guy, and he's just like Weird would become a little bit of a liability on that end of the floor.
00:21:02
There's just a couple things where I'm like I don't know, and it may just be that he's exerted so much effort on offense.
00:21:08
But this year he had a little bit of more, so I just thought he had more support around him in terms of the offense.
00:21:14
And I don't know how is my favorite thing when I feel like a guy loses sight of, like what he's was brought into the lead to dio in a lot of ways, Well, because it's one of things I wonder about.
00:21:27
It's like the deal thing right where they go in this do just doesn't care about defense.
00:21:32
And you're like, Well, it could also be that it's a product of the system that they're just like, Listen, based on what we have here, you're not gonna worry about defense.
00:21:40
We want you to do offensively now.
00:21:42
You'd like to think that because you have Gobert on the Jazz.
00:21:44
If Mitchell was really homed in, that could become something that they anchor themselves around.
00:21:49
Uh, get the door on this snowman.
00:21:51
Guards are very as, Ah and I think, as my as my as my podcast.
00:21:56
Coz Doug was like, These are guys that you confined.
00:21:59
You can find players that that serve those roles, finding whether or not there's some limitations to his game.
00:22:06
Ah, gold Bayer.
00:22:07
That can really impact the defensive end of the floor for you.
00:22:10
Is there any? Is there any world where if you were the ah, if you were the Utah Jazz, you Would you be open to moving Mitchell before you end up re upping that big contract and saying, You know, what's the big picture for us? Do we look better in the short term as an older team with Connolly and Goldberger and Angles and Name X other players going to say even that Golden State thing? Not that this isn't like for life, but it's like, Oh, we could get a get a Wiggins in.
00:22:35
You know, we can get in a couple of other pieces from another roster and we'll see what happens.
00:22:39
But if we don't see ourselves as a deep playoff run team with Mitchell, regardless of moving gold there or not, when do when do we make that choice? Right? And it's like in the Southern teams.
00:22:49
Never do is like pull the trigger on young talent.
00:22:51
Relatively speaking, Um, and it's not like his floor was ever as low as Wigan's got God with time with generals.
00:22:57
But it's something interesting, right? Looks like What is the best summation of parts for us toe have success.
00:23:05
And how do you maybe give the public ridicule being like, I can't believe you traded away a 23 year old guard.
00:23:09
You know, I think he's not quite, but I just think there's too much of a track record with him now of like him being a successful player on DSA.
00:23:20
Someone, at least it feels like he can lead an offense to, like, be a really like this player on a playoff team.
00:23:28
So I would probably say right now, no, Um, I don't think he's like a Tyreke Evans or somebody like that, Kind of like a flash in the pan type of guy.
00:23:36
It just seems like there's real proven MBA talent, so and if they were to deal of now, I would I would come down on them pretty hard to be like, I just don't know, like where you're going to start over and basically hope to get another Donovan Mitchell like.
00:23:50
That's kind of I always worry about doing that.
00:23:52
It was like when the Knicks traded for Zynga's.
00:23:54
It's like, why? Why would you do that? Like you're just gonna What are you hoping for your hoping to get another poor Zynga's in a draft, where it's like, you know, he's one of the three most promising players in his class, maybe four.
00:24:06
I guess we'll get the next most promising guy.
00:24:07
It's like I don't know.
00:24:09
I mean, I don't know.
00:24:10
So I threw the who gets to move to move, go bare if you can't repair it between those guys.
00:24:16
But I you know, maybe I'm being done here, but I would try to run it back and see if there's if it's just a weird situation with the MBA right now, like I don't know what it's gonna look like in the next a couple of years.
00:24:28
So you may.
00:24:29
You may not.
00:24:30
Getting Mitchell on a Max deal that ends up being a bunch 14 friend of real curry Curries Deal when he signed it for the Warriors, weirdly enough to bring them up for the third unexpected time tearing up the the Golden State Warriors stream that we're doing here? Yeah, I think I think you're I think it's unfortunate and I think you're right.
00:24:49
Like it's like, this is the nature of some of these things.
00:24:52
You end up, you give Mitchell Max contract, and it's not because he's not good, but like that's what you dio and you and then you see, you see what the next couple of years look like.
00:25:01
You see how you move Connelly's contact, if you can.
00:25:03
When does go bare fall off a little bit? Can you then move his contract a little bit later on his extension? And unfortunately for some of these market seems like this is just what happens.
00:25:13
You end up with a really good player and Mitchell and you try to shuffle pieces.
00:25:17
But you don't necessarily ever have the opportunity to go into free agency and say, Oh, you know, what I'd love to do is challenge the Lakers to be ableto who wanted, obviously bring back a d.
00:25:27
We look to the able to put a pack, you know, attracting here, and he's just never gonna do it.
00:25:31
He's never going to make that move.
00:25:33
So you're always gonna have Teoh hope you strike in the lottery.
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